No Jumper - Zay Hilfigerrr on Juju On That Beat, His SHOCKING Onlyfans Career & More

Episode Date: February 16, 2023

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No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today I'm having a conversation that we've discussed having many times over the years. But here we are. We finally sat down and did it. Zay Hillviker in the building. How you feeling? What's up, my boy? What's going on?

I'm just how I'm chilling. I'm faded. We're going to have a good time. How are you feeling, my boy? I'm feeling pretty good. Just, you know, knocking our few interviews, regular shit. Exactly. This is a long time dude, but I appreciate the way.

Right. So I met you in the Melrose days Just hanging out in the back of the store and shit I was the rock star I was always Me and Pump Always going crazy I was like 15 16 You were 16 back then

When I was dancing in your vlog Yeah I remember Holy shit I didn't know you're that young That's insane And I was with I was with Vader King Vader and him yeah Uh huh

Okay but you went viral Quite a bit before that So let's let's let's start with the childhood in general Where are you from exactly Detroit Michigan Oh okay from Detroit all right And you lived there to what age? 15.

And what was the childhood like? Basically, going to school, being a little thug, getting into a lot of fights and doing stuff like that. But I wanted to make a change. I didn't want to do that no more. I was like, that's kind of lame. I ain't never want to be looked at as a, you know, in the community. Like, oh, you're a thug or something like that in the hood.

And I just wanted to do good because my brothers got that title. So I felt like there was my protection. So I ain't had to do that. So it was really like, it was really chill, basically, but it was a lot of that through my school years. And then around the time when I started doing videos, I didn't, I didn't look at it as a creator. I just looked at it as having fun, like just making home videos, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was on YouTube like in 2010. So I wasn't, you know, YouTube wasn't the same.

You know what I'm saying? So you were just, you were more focused on making YouTube content than music at that time? I was the kid that wanted to get the iPhone. Okay. You know, but back when I wanted an iPhone, the iPods didn't have a camera yet. So I got an iPod, and then I was just trying to learn how to jailbreak all stuff like that, like trying to learn how to do Internet stuff, and everybody else wanted to play video games, go outside, football, stuff like that, and I wanted to chill in the crib.

So, yeah, I was really by myself a lot, and I helped. Can you push the thing in your microphone down? Yeah, there you go. Cool, cool, cool. Just the thing was coming off, yeah. But, okay, so, but then when did you start making music, and how does this all lead to do your music? That's what I'm saying. I started making music around 13, 14.

And when I started making music, I was making gangster music. Like, you know, like, Zay and this bitch, and I don't give a fuck. Like, you know what I'm saying? And I posted it on SoundCloud, and that's how I figured out about SoundCloud. But I'm not taking it serious. We was in a group. I was in Slug Team. It was a group.

It was with the homies. And then I, um, Juja on the beat came when you ever heard it hit the quine. Hit the quine. So when I came out, I actually went viral on Twitter back in the day. Because that was such an arrow. It was so many dance songs that were just kind of commanding you to do a dance. And I did it on Twitter because I didn't have Instagram followers. And then when I did it on Twitter, it blew up off my homie Twitter because we were dancers.

And then I was like, I want to make a song. So I was sitting in my homie crib. And I just started saying juju on the beat. So it was weird. I already had juja on the beat from me being around my home girls and we just sang it. And then I got the song, the beat, where I just picked the random beat. and then I just did it in my homie crib. So it was kind of like, it happened all together, kind of like stitch.

Like you started out with this rap song. You played a little bit. You started doing music. Like I was on, you heard an audacity. Audacity, yeah, yeah, yeah. Audacity on the computer. What was that, though? It was like an audio stitcher.

Yeah, okay. You know, like, where people stitch audio. I'm doing music with that. No, I remember people talking about this shit back in the day. So I'm doing music with that. I'm trying to just rap. It's not sounding right. My home and my cousin rap too.

So I'm trying to do that, but that dance felt right. Like, I was like, oh, we need to do this. And it was one minute. So when I did that, the funny thing is I got laughed at. For the dance or for the song? Yeah, just for the song. Like, you know, like a family laugh. Like, oh, what is this?

And I'm sitting there, like, I don't know. Like, I was just trying to have fun. I'm like, I don't know. But I went to sleep on it and I woke up and I told my boy, please put your verse on it. And that was Zion. And he was like, no, I don't want to put my verse on it. And I was like,

I need it because we need two minutes because I'm on YouTube and I'm a YouTube head. I'm like the two minutes going to give it. We need a two minute song because songs two minutes. Long story short, he did his love part and when we did it, I dropped it and it just randomly hit like 70,000 or like 17 days. I got the screenshot still on Facebook. So when it happened, I was like, whatever. And then the girl did it on Twitter and I retweeted it.

I don't care. I don't care about Twitter. I don't care about none. And I feel like that's what helped me get up so far. But girls started dancing to it and that was kind of what. Because from Dug Smash, I think, or something. It was on SoundCloud. So somehow...

So you had like a TikTok come up before TikTok was everything. Was TikTok and music... Well, it was musically probably at the time? I mean, musically is TikTok, I think. Yeah, but music... Was it big on musically at that time? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Any platform that you could put video and do dancing and shit.

I put it on SoundCloud. Somehow it got on musically. I didn't do no musically. I think my friends did it. And then it started... Because the Instagram. So you know how you tell somebody, go on Instagram. Do the whole Shabam.

I did that, and that's what made it really pop. So after the girl danced to it, I started seeing other people retweet it and put TZ Anthem because it was from SoundCloud, so they put in the SoundCloud name. And I'm like, why is everybody done to this? And then one day my mom was like, oh, we got to do your dance because my friend's telling me about it.

So, you know, you got to do what moms do. I do the dance, and it goes up on my Instagram, 100K. So that's when I started doing more content because actually I was a content creator. I forgot to tell you that. I was a comedian. Oh, you were doing videos? Doing the disappearing.

I don't know if you ever seen it, but I can change myself into a ghost and act like I'm eating food when I was getting done. So I was already, I had that mindset back in the day, but Instagram was really low on the guidelines. So I was like, okay, cool, I can do stuff like that. And that's when I got that humor.

It was like funny, dark humor. So I was doing that. And then the music came along. So, yeah, I kind of was being an influence of what I was knowing. Like, I'm doing a comedy. Then the music came in. Then you did the stuff on Audacity. Then you end up doing the song.

So that all brushed into the song going viral. And then it actually just blew up out of one day because after the girl did it, everybody started doing it. Then by the time I realized, it was already like a song. So you got started getting hit up by like every label and all of a sudden they want to work with you? It was in Zeyerun because he was older. Oh, okay. And he went. through video.

Uh-huh. So video, it was actually through video, so we had to pay video. So they weren't sure who they should sign. They didn't know, like, who was the star

of the two guys on the song? I mean, this was funny. It was like a Ray Schumer thing. Right. Like how Ray Shimmer was back in the day, like how the fans be talking night, how they is not.

But it moved to like a day, I guess I had shells. You know, I had shells. I had the color hair. So I feel like I just looked like a rock star at that time. Like how every artist you know,

you look like the rock star and you look dripping people say you dress nice and that's what happened so it was that effect and he didn't care because he didn't want a kid's on so right after he didn't want to do that

yeah they just automatically I don't people know this and I'm gonna say this because I know people are gonna be like you had to say this on here they never play his part in the song no

because it's towards the end of the song right? Yeah but like they like I sing it like you knuck and you bucking you're ready to I got my brother he with me. I got, oh, but it was like, oh, that other guy.

Right. And then he didn't like that. And so did you guys kind of fall out over that early on? I didn't know. I was young. So I'm being, you know how I was. Happy smoking. Right.

He's looking at me with the side. No, I just. He's looking at it because he's looking at, you know how they be. He looking at me like, I ain't messing with you. You bigger than me. I'm looking over here. Like, we dance and we, you know, we on Disney Channel. He's looking at it like, no, you on Disney Channel.

Right. But we had the names. Like, we went on Ellen together. We did this. But he was a non-performer, real rapper, and he diss Eminem. Yeah, but I mean, this is kind of like what happens with everybody. Like, this is almost the same story as GZ and Gucci falling out. They, like, they weren't best friends, but they did a song together.

And then the song gets big. And, you know, they weren't on the same page of, like, what to be doing. So then all of a sudden, boom, they fall apart. But at least their careers. Right. At least they knew their lanes. He didn't know his lane, like I said, he diss Eminem. Like, it's still up.

Like, I'm not lying. Like, he got a lot of SoundCloud views. It's not, I'm not talking about it in a bad way. I'm talking about it in a way where he really did that he wanted to be a real MC. So after the song, I'm running the juju wave, going to Disney Channel, doing Radio Disney, as you said, doing this, doing that, being a kid. And he wanted to grow up, so he started getting tattoos on the hand. Nothing wrong with that, but it made everybody look at him like, we don't even know your part on the song. So we're going to book him.

And when we, he went to Dubai, I think, and they thought it was me. And all I did was made, like on some, uh, Travis Scott. Yo, that ain't me. Delete it. Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry. No, I'm sorry. We, we, really bad.

And then I went down there, got paid even more. Wow. Like, all that. And that was the shady side. But it wasn't him. It was all, everybody. He was just, that's how I was. It was like, that's the only way he can get the song, like, if it'd be like, oh, the one person.

You go on the time. really so young that you were kind of oblivious to this? Yeah, like, I'm not thinking they want Zay for Zay. They named it Zay ain't that shady? Hmm. Like, it's not, it's not, is that creative? Zay, Zay. Like, Zay, Zay, Zay.

Not as much. The Hill figure adds a lot to it. What if I came on here with him? We're like, we're the Zay. Well, it is. It's like, it's hard to put your belief in a rapper when their name isn't Googlable. You get what I'm saying?

Yeah. And the only reason I chose that is because, And I'm going to let you know that in a minute. But did Zay, Zay, whatever, that didn't work out. His name was Zayon. I feel like that sound good. Zay and Zayon. That sounded like a TV show or something like Nickelodeon.

They didn't ever want to do that. And I didn't notice that until I got here and started meeting you and started meeting other people. And then I started understanding the business. And I started stabbing back and being quiet. Right. But at what point do you sign with the lights global? I signed with them 15.

He did that. Yeah. They connected him through the email. Okay. Because he knew all that. He knew the email. I didn't, I'm not tech savvy. I was tech savvy, but I was a kid.

He knew an email. He knew video. Like I said, he put it on there. He put it through video. He put it through generator and all that. Yeah, all that. So when they connected it, they flew us both out. And the only thing I was oblivious to is I was like, I just want to get verified.

I was hot. I just got getting high. And I just, for real, just want to get verified. See, like, I think the fact that you were smoking hell of weed when I knew back in the day probably made me not think you were 16. Yeah. But then again. I guess I knew a lot of young people who were smoking a lot of weed at that time. But you probably thought I was like 18.

Yeah, yeah, something like that. But it was like, in a more I was quiet because I was so, it was different weed. Like, I was so young at him, I didn't know the weed. I was just, you know, I'm just high. Like, jet fuel, that's OG. That's not for me. I'm little. I need some can of teak, you feel me?

Boom, boom, boom. I'm smoking all that. I'm over here, like, I'm talking to him. I'm like, what up? Yeah, what? Like, I'm off none of that. I ain't off none of that. Just high.

But that taught me like all that after that. I grew up from that And I feel like a lot of people Don't grow up out that shell If you know what I'm saying Because after the lights Well I'm still on the Lights Globe I did two years

Two years on the Lights Global And it was cool And I used that in the lives To be smart Like I got into so many parties I met Diddy I met his sons I know Black China

I met all these people Through them people And got close with these people Right Without even you know Being a wrong way Or doing it You know

Like oh you're a cloud chaser Were you close to pump at any point? Yeah. Were you guys actually, like, hanging out as real friends? Yeah, like, when we came. Right. He told me to do that. He told me to come.

Like, I helped them, um, when he signed, he asked me like, is it like, is it like, like, is it like, yeah, they're cool. Like, and I helped them, like, when he crashed the Porsche, I helped them record it. I was the cameraman. Like, because I was the cool when I was like, I guess they knew I was young. They was like, you love they, you from Detroit. You don't know nothing. And I'm, I'm, um, we over here turning up.

And that's what made me learn that life. Like, pump. music, punk wanted to record, but I kept getting high. Like I said, I didn't never, I wasn't an artist. I was like the baby general. You know, like you're, you're famous, but you're like a bye-wow. Right, but were you not passionate about making music or were you not really making that much music at that time? I was, but I didn't know. Like, there's so many things going on. I'm going to parties. I'm seeing thick women. You know what I'm saying? I'm in LA. For real, I'm going crazy. I'm dancing. I'm meeting celebrities and not paying attention to them. Like I saw the girl from

from uh, Wizard of Way, no, I saw Emily Austin when I saw her, um, ooh, what's your what's up? And that was in your shop. Really? Yeah, and then I just stopped. Emily Austin?

Yeah. She's like an actress now or something? Yeah, I was, she was a young actress. She grew up, she played in a couple movies, but I said, what's up? She was in Missy Elliott video, the little girl. Right. I was saying what's up to her and I just don't care.

Like everybody, like celebrities, viner's, people, you know, like, you know how you looking at me? They're like, hold on, brother. I'm just dancing. I remember me in Sky Jackson as like a 14 year old little pump fan. And that's when I went on X. And now she's like so huge. People love her.

When I went on X show, she was there and it was confusing. I was like, what you doing? Anyway. Oh, she went to that X show, right? And there were pictures of her standing on stage and people were mad as fuck. And I did all that. Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah.

You see that too. Everybody knew me. Like every other artist, ski mask, all them, Uno, they knew me. But I'm not caring. I'm high. What up, ski? You're making weed sound like it's like really fucking powerful, which it is. Well, it was because the way it was...

Especially if you're a teenager. Yeah, I guess the way it was was I started smoking in New York. So I wasn't even smoking loud. I was smoking. And, you know, not saying New York, I ain't got no loud. It's just where I was at. And then after I started smoking there, I came over here to L.A., and that's where it was stronger.

So when it got stronger, it was just, it was... I didn't understand. I wasn't doing it right. Like, I didn't have little reps like that. I didn't have little blunts like that. I had big old... thonks. Remember thinks. They used to always have throinks. So I'm smoking a whole thoink and I'm getting super high and then that's how I was recording the music. But it was a good thing. It is a good

thing and it did help me go through a lot of good things because I didn't, that's why I was trying to tell you. I didn't do nothing else. Like being with the light's level, it wasn't like what they say L.A. is. Like you can skip through all. You know how they be. L.A., people do this. Oh, it's weird. No, it's weird, but you can go through the weirdness when you're smart. You ain't got to go through nothing. I ain't want per pressure to do. And nobody cared. Right. I'm being around people, they do what they do.

Okay. I never looked at it like that. I helped people. You know, they fall out. You know, I was with Bunk seeing them. I was right there when he fell out with the Gucci thing. He ain't gone outside the restaurant. He fell out with a Gucci thing?

Yeah, it's a video. Oh. You posted it on your thing, but I don't know if you knew with the situation. But we was outside of restaurant. Pump, me, him, and Pump. He just walked up and fall out, and then we had to go help him. And then, you know, Pump being funny, recorded him. Oh, Bunk, you fell out.

And that just showed me not to do nothing like that. At that period in time, it was like, Bunk, everywhere he would go, he would either punch somebody or he would get so fucked up that he passed out on the ground or something. And that's when I was going back from Detroit and here, so I had an option to go with them,

but I didn't do it because I always wanted to just look like me. Right. He'll figure. Like, I'd be with Black China, don't want to really be with them because I feel like I'm going to look like a cloud chase. I just didn't want to be with a lot of people

because I just wanted to look like me and a help, though. Because now, like, when I do all the other stuff, they're not comparing me to nobody. They're not saying, like, oh, you was with this person or you came from these people. So what's it like when the juju on the beat wave kind of starts to slow down and, like, all of a sudden it's not this big viral thing anymore? This was funny. I knew that was going to happen.

I'm smart. I already did the research. I'm like, all right, but I always had a backup plan. And when that started happening, I was doing songs and I was still relevant. off my music. I just felt like I didn't have to do nothing else because it was nothing to really go crazy and do. Like, I ain't got to do this.

I ain't got to do that. So when it started really slowing down, I still had videos going viral. Like, I still had the Instagram. I still had dance videos going viral and I still was doing big things. So all I had to do was stay focused. And when it's, and I just kept my relationships good.

So when you start slowing down, if you keep your relationship, you're not going to fall off. Okay. You can sit in the background. You have to sit in the background. You have to let the new way. come and follow it. But did you have any records that really got traction

after the Gilleson the B thing? Yeah, like a couple. Like, role play. It was okay. No, roleplay. It was another one called Manifesting. That's a new one though. Not new, but like eight months ago. Then it was a new one. Rollplay. It was

it was a, they don't know. It's another one called they don't know. Like three of them got like a million a couple. Then it was like, I made it out the hood. That's another one. and then like I had a wave going my own little you can say speaking knockers inspired wave and that was working because I was hanging around the right people and I was getting like 200k 1 million doing you know because the little wave it's slowing down but they still like your music right I mean your fan base that sticks around is never going to be as big as your first hit yeah you know how

they be like this hard and this like this so tic-tok and shorts and all that help now because you can just post your music but that's what I started but I'm I got a lot of music that I didn't release, and that's what made it better because I release it now because it sound like the music now. I kind of thought, like, I was like, all right, like, I got a lot of music that sound like this,

and everybody be like, when you're going to drop that? When you're going to? And then it's like, I just wanted to write video and stuff, so I had to get my money. So it really wasn't about slowing down. It was about the money. That's what made people go crazy. What?

The money just wasn't coming in? Yeah, you know how money don't come in and people go crazy? And I understand that a lot of people get wild or start doing drugs But were you seeing a lot of money when the song was really popping off or was it all going to the label and shit?

No, yeah. For somebody young that can just say their money, yeah. It wasn't like, what's a bad number you say? Like, it wasn't like 20,000, 10,000. It was like 87,000, 90,000. You feel what I'm? You getting paid $5,000 in show. So it was really up there.

Like, because the song was so nice that people, yeah, Dubai, 5,000, Chicago, 5,000. depending on what you're doing. Right. You're doing charities and stuff because everything you can do because it was a clean song.

So you really got a lot of money, even if it was cheap. And it never was really cheap. So it didn't really stop slowing down, but it started losing traction. So now it can still get that. But my whole plan was to stay relevant, be on TikTok,

and maybe, yeah, that I helped to influence as long as you just stay positive. Right. So, like, if you want to be, oh, I'm doing this again. I remember because on there, I get like $5 million, $5 million. But when it comes to the music,

do you blame the label, or do you just think that you were having a hard time making a song that was a hit with the fans? What do you attribute that to? You're talking about releasing another song, right? Or just like in terms of having your music consistently do well, do you feel like the label continued to have your back, or do you think that they just wanted to sign you for that one song?

It was two years. When I was on there, yeah, they had my back. I met a lot of good artists. They tagged me in. They sent Kalani to say, what up to me? they've had a lot of people meet me they had potential

but all I had to do was stay consistent and I still got the distribution with create music like I still can release and go big and do all that but that's only because I don't get into arguments with nobody I don't got no problems like I'm just me now so I accepted that like I don't care

like you know there's any of no videos like oh he fell off that's kind of weird you know the little videos that be like what happened to him it's such a big genre on rap or hip hop these days but I feel like I ain't got that because I switched my whole narrative. So people would be like, he ain't no rather. Right.

You know what? Well, I mean, you ended up doing something with yourself that was so eye-catching that I agree that it is kind of surprising that people haven't made more of a big deal about it because it was kind of surprising. You know how to be the videos. Oh, yeah, all the time. Like, yours was perfect. And then I was like, ah, because the way you did it, I was like, here go to them

videos. That's going to be like, and I be on those videos, I'd be trolling under it. Right. And I'd be like, this a good video. Then under the video, be like, ooh, that's him, do it. Do him. Oh, he's getting caught. And I'd be like, oh, they go do it one day, but they ain't catching traction because it's so mixy that they be like, they're going to have to go through a whole rabbit hole and it's going to be too much.

Yeah, it's a lot for some people, right? You know what I'm saying? So let me ask you this. Where were you at going into the pandemic? Because I feel like everybody's lives changed a lot going into the pandemic. I ain't even know what was really, I ain't even like, you know, when I was seeing that on the thing, I was just chilling. It was like, I was just chilling really. I wasn't really busy.

so I was just regularly chilling, but it didn't really get crazy until when they started doing the math and the COVID test. Right. Like a lot. Like, when you couldn't go nowhere unless you had a COVID test or it was at every hospital or stuff or like you seen the people in the jacket. Yeah. That's when it really got crazy. But is that when you started the only fans is during COVID? That's a lot of people.

No, I think. I can check. No, because I started it a little bit. A little bit before that? Yeah. Because Black China told me to start it. So that was not the pandemic. That was a little bit after the pendant.

So you were really kicking with her like that? Yeah. And she had already launched hers at that point. Yeah. Because I remember they came on and said she made like $50 million in a year or some shit. Remember that? Yeah, I thought that too again. And I was living with her for a minute.

And she started laughing and I checked her thing. And I was like, what? I was like, why are they saying that? Like, I actually have more views in the marketing because she don't post. So it's like, reactive. But it's like, for her, it's crazy. because I'm like, girls are easy. I'm like, dang, you got all the people, you're in you got five videos.

You got 50 million or 15 million, but I had like 30 million because, you know, what I do. So it was crazy because all she did was tell me, yo, you should make one and get your money. And I'm like, no, I don't want to do that. I got my Instagram. So when my Instagram got deleted in October, yeah, right? In October, two years ago, that's when I started. Why did your Instagram was deleted? Because I was posting a police brutality videos.

I was trying to be like a news reporter. It was working. You were doing, you were just on some activist shit? Yeah. You were trying to be like a content creator reporting on the shit. No, it was for real. Like, I had real posts. I was helping people.

I got a couple officers taken down. It was real. I have seen a lot of people talking about how they've, like, gotten their Instagrams deleted over, posting political shit in general. And I've seen everybody doing it, but you remember in that run era, like around 2018, 19 when it was really active.

Like, Instagram was there. Like, I was getting the views. Like, finally, I was like, here go to a million views, but I got too hungry because I wanted a million views on everything, every post. I was active. I was active on Twitter, but I was, Instagram was like, br-dr-dr-like, I was like, oh, God. Because thinking about if you're calling out police brutality shit, somebody could probably get your Instagram taken down for posting violence. They could probably try to get you for, like, bullying if you're, like, naming the cop and shit.

I didn't have Wi-Fi in the apartment I was in on right, so it glitched. So I didn't see even the things to take down into after it logged me out. So I was seeing it, it was like seven of them. And I was like, dang, they got me. And I ain't never got it. But I had two thick women coming over to do a funny video, like Jimmy Smackstyle, like, just a funny video. And then it didn't work. So they got irritated.

They sat there for like five minutes. I said, we can't do a video. And that's when I switched over to a demon. A demon. Yeah, that's what. So you're like, I got these two girls here. I might as well film something? Yeah, I was thinking that.

I was so irritated. I still sent them home. But that was my evil idea. Like, I was like, okay, I'm going to have this one day. I'm going to get them back and I'm going to get them cheeks.

But all I was thinking was that, but I didn't think, I still was like, I'm not going to do that. I was trying to troll. Still had it up. And mind you not, I did have it on Instagram,

and I did post me getting fake head. So that did probably get to leave it. A lot of people were doing that at the time. Yeah, but it was fake, but it still got $5 million. Oh, I was getting to the point where I think that was getting annoyed. Like, he getting too many views on nothing.

And then, you know, it was turning to money, but I ain't know. Like, you know, if the money would have came in right there, I would have started getting a couple checks. So I almost had a million, but they were super active. It was a, I had 12,000 posts like Snoodog, so I was on it. But after all, I started doing the only fans, and at first it was nothing. I was faking everything. Faking it? Had girls coming over and just laying on me, and then they'd go home.

What, put the booty on you and you weren't fucking them or anything? Okay. Yes. And people were feeling this? Well, boop. All right, go home. That was it. And that worked.

Yeah. People were really signing up for it. Yeah. But then I got greedy because I got drunk and then I ate a kick cat at this girl. But when I ate it, it wasn't. No, no, no, no. I didn't eat it. I didn't eat it.

I hurt. But, like, it was. The butt hole? Yeah. The butt crack. Okay. It was a, I did that. I was like I was like I'm gonna just post this whatever yep yeah I went up 15,000 and not

saying money is the root to all happiness but that's when I was like okay I can survive off this if I play it out right wait but so I was in one day how did people find out that you had posted this do you like advertise it on Twitter and shit that's when I the Instagram right before the Instagram got deleted so I just oh you posted it on Instagram and that helped you get deleted yeah eating a kick out of an ass crack yeah but the just but it was funny Oh, a Jif. Okay.

No, that didn't get deleted, but I deleted it. I did it like a sneak peek, like a post it, get a lot of likes. I didn't read the comments. I was just so sleepy. But I checked my Twitter and I was, I mean, I checked my OnlyFans. I was like, whoa, 15,000. I didn't have no videos up. So right after that, I started, I had got a girl because I was on live.

And then I just got a girl that way. Okay. Like, it was just kind of like ran into it because I was just playing. I was like, I need a girl to come on here and do OnlyFans. And then one girl was like me and I was like, no, you cap. And then she was like, I ain't cat, watch. And then she sent me a picture in the shower. I was like, look at your little butt.

It's crazy because if I was, if I was a single dude right now, that's what I would do. I would go on my story when I was bored on a Sunday afternoon. I'd tell you, who wants to come do Onlyfans? But yeah, but it was back when that wouldn't even like, you know, everybody went, nobody really know about that. It was newish. Yeah, that was one when you posted the people would be like, oh, you're wild. So after all that, she came out and we did it, but I was doing it.

it on the floor on the mattress. Uh-huh. Just raw. Right. Just nasty. It looked like it smelled like pickles. That's how the videos look like... Why didn't look like it smelled like pickles?

You know, you don't look at the videos. You got a Twitter at them. Yeah. They'll be looking like they smell like pickles. I fucking hate pickles. So no, I don't look at pussy. I don't like pickles either. I don't like pickles either, bro.

Not my favorite food. So look, girls in the hood, we, in the hood, they smell like pickles. Them the pickle girls. They'd be having the pickles and the, uh, and, uh, and, uh, in the, uh, in the, uh, in a, in a, And a Kool-A. I smelled some nasty

pussies, but not pickleish. No, like they body, their aroma, like pickles, like, ugh. But that's the- You're really painting a pitcher.

But yeah, that's the type of content I was doing, and it's still up if you go down because it went from a little Uzi picture, you know, regular music type of Twitter,

and then one booty video. Uh-huh. And I said, what if Instagram had a sniffed, uh, feature? Uh-huh. And I posted that too.

So, yeah, it was a lot of things that got me deleted. I'm starting to think now. But I posted that, that jiff, and it was like a booty going like, boop, boop. So I said, what if it had a sniff feature? And then the next post was me and my ex. And that's when I was only getting 30,000 to 20,000, so I wouldn't even doing nothing. But I just worked hard. I just kept learning. Right. Because I mean, at a certain point, you have this hit song, and you're doing good money-wise, and then that money starts to run out, but you're like, you still want to do something. You kind of doing the grow-up phase.

So it's like, where you want to go? Do you want to get a regular job? Do you want to to be a YouTuber, do you want to be a skateboarder? And I just chose that. I know it's wild, but it's funny. But did you ever see yourself doing this kind of thing? Or was it ever something you considered? Yeah, you know, back in the day, like I was doing all the videos. Like, I've been like that, but I just didn't think it would come that quick.

Like, I've been like that. Like, I've been doing videos like that and doing posts like that. Like, I've been doing the sniff stuff. I've been posting butts. And, you know, remember back in the day when they used to be like, like this, if this stick and it'd be a fake Photoshop booty you have the girl with the volleyball you can pop that up I know you're gonna find that it's a volleyball picture yeah for real it's a volleyball picture but it's a fake one but it's a it's a photoshop one and it's a real one but okay them type of pictures

I posted and when I actually got Sont-Til landing records they helped me delete all that but that was the type of stuff that I was into but I just felt like it was the right moment because I was like oh I'm in this age now nobody really cares looking at me from the YouTube so I'm I'm gonna go over here. And then it did work in a way because I don't get anxiety. I don't get like, oh, these people are looking at me.

I don't get, I'm exposed because that's what people was thinking. You know, they'd be like, what are you thinking? I'm thinking, y'all responding, and that's the point. Okay, but so you start having sex on only fans and everything. How does it like kind of start to get more extreme?

Because if you were just doing only fans, probably we wouldn't have really like noticed or cared that much. But then when I started seeing you do wild stuff, on Twitter and stuff. That's when I was like, we got to talk about this on the podcast. And I didn't know you was going to catch it on that bad because I'm like Batman. I was like, oh, he catches on.

Did I catch on like very early on? Yeah, you caught on quick. And I was like, oh, man, not Adam. Like out of everybody, I was like, not Adam. Follow all the porn guys. You know, like your uncle that you didn't want to see. That's me. And you show all the homies, I'm like, oh, all the homies, trippy red car me.

Oh, blood. Oh, no, bled, what you doing? yelling at me. I'm like, oh, he's like, you good, though, you make your buddy. I'm like, yeah, he's like, look, dude, look at this. You think he called Lil Wop like that? Little Wop. He'd be doing some wild shit on Twitter as well.

Little Wap? You don't remember Little Wop? That's who Trippie, like, kind of came out with. They were rapping and they were friends at the time. That's real. Yeah, now Lil Wap be, well, he announced he's bisexual and he's like fully. No, that's real. He's got his dick out on Twitter.

No, that's Adam. That's real. He got big-ass dick, too. Shout out Lil Wob. No, bro. That's Adam. I'm not, what? No, that's real.

So you're that shock that he would do it. I guess he was like the most gangster-ass rapper at the time, right? I don't believe nothing on the internet. I'm not fin to sit here on this podcast and be like, yeah, I heard that. Like, you know, they'd be having, man, I didn't heard a lot. I'm surprised you missed that because, like, Say Cheese did a whole interview talking about it. I know I've seen it on, like, a picture. Oh.

But I didn't think that was real. That's like me taking a picture like this with like Uzi. And then they say something funny. So I didn't know, like, that was. But, damn. But anyways, no, so basically, yeah, like that type of shock, basically, but I don't know, we'll support that. But was a bunch of people hit you up, shocked that you were? That's what I'm saying.

When I did what I did, it was like, it took the pictures of myself, too, because, you know, when you take pictures, everybody, like, I know this person. So it took that. It took the, doing the more wild stuff because that was when I did the silhouette challenge with the girl. So it was the viral woman with the girl that got everybody to look at you. and then they went crazy after the, you could say, I call it alternative content. So sucking glass dildos was a lot of it. No, why you keep saying glass?

No. Okay. Whoops, sorry. No, I remember. No, on the podcast. That's another thing. I had to come on here to tell him no glass, man. Fuck, all right.

My bad. When you said that, you made it, he said glass and the tears coming out of his eyes. I said, whoa, you made me a whole DeWain Johnson meme. But it was perfect. I've seen some wild shit. No, but that's what I needed, but I didn't think that you kind of helped me narrate it. Okay. Because I was like, okay, I'm doing this because, all right, I'm just playing it.

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That's why when people on here that's arguing, I'll be seeing them, like, oh, I got the, you don't, you got dudes. You got dudes looking at you. Stop acting like you got females looking at you. You got females you working with you, but you got dudes looking at you. So you're the star. You get what I'm trying to say? Every male porn star I know, this is like a thing. But you know, I'm talking about the people.

The super gangster-ass one seemed kind of uncomfortable. Most of them seem like kind of whatever. Like, yeah, it's a bunch of gay dudes look at me. They're paying my bills. It's the people that tell you like, oh, I got all these females. Like, what if I came here? I got these females. I manage them.

I do my thing. And then you ask that question. What about the dudes that buy your content? You'd be like, I block them. You can't block them. They're coming from every block. They're coming from left, right in back. It's like jail, hum me.

They could, they, what hood you from? That's in the only fans' DMs? Yeah, they come in. Oh, shit. They're coming in hard. And you got to... What you're from? Right.

And you know how Aiden Ross make jokes or how you can make jokes? They make jokes. You don't even got to be gay. So they sign up and message you and give you a hard time. They can be like, you with this girl, I want you in my butt. Oh, Lord. And you'll be like, no, bro, like, who would chill out? And they'll be like, no, because I'm paying $200.

So now... So you got angry gay dudes on there. Man. And then that's why when they're trying to explain it to you, they like, no, it ain't like that. It's like, I don't be. liking that because they don't know how to respond you know what I'm saying some dudes be cool you know let me just give me the link thank you but you you know your market and you're like fuck it let's give them what they want I learned it after seeing what you posted and doing it because I only had three videos

but I was actually doing like attention seeking like okay I got this video up I got that many views I did this crazy stuff I did the stuff on my face with myself you know everything that people that already did right but it was all in the row so it was too much for them to catch on to at once. So when people started catching on, it was, you helped it. You was like the news. Yeah. Like, oh, he did this. So people. So you're saying I made you a lot of money when I talked about on the podcast. It was kind of, it was, look. Good and bad. I'm sure it came from that. No, it wasn't bad. It was not a lot of money, a lot of subscribers and views. So the money didn't come in yet because like I said, it was nothing on there. So it was the views. It was

the people. And then automatically, I was like, oh, this is what they like. So that's when I started doing that because people get confused and I was like no I started doing that because people started liking that but I stopped because I didn't want to get repetitive but yeah I was doing that 100% because yeah it was the market but you were getting pegged on there too right not not at first not at first but you did do that right right after all that it was all like it was all like one it was like a couple months regular doing all this you saw it and then and you were like fucking I'm going crazy I was a couple months after got back with the girl and I was like yeah So I did dress like her

Doing all that just to get more attention I didn't do it for real Because it hurt That's why I'm trying to tell everybody I don't want to get my rubber band popped So you didn't actually get fucked in the ass? No Oh

Like when I gave him the video My rubber band popped You don't want to get your rubber band popped No I'm just being one I don't want to get that done too So I totally relate You know what I'm saying Like no dude

Like no dude Even straight dudes A lot of dudes A lot of dudes Like stuff in the butt Because if you tell them how? Like that's Sharkshank reduction, that hurt.

Listen, I'm not a fan either. That's Andy Dufram. It's pretty common. That hurt. No, like, you got to understand that hurt. I don't even know how females be doing that. That's why I'd be like, no.

So when it comes to me, I didn't do that, but after that, I was like, all right, what I'd do next? And then I went regular. But then I was already an open-minded person because this is a difference between, you know, straight, gay,

by liking what you like. You know, everybody got their own weird. Me, I'm a zasexual. What does that mean exactly? You know, a Zay, look, this is new, right? All the kids are going to love it. Right. Azasexual, look, oh, look, I sound like Eminem.

A Zay sexual is basically when you are open-minded person and you don't give an effort, you don't give a fuck with nobody think and you really don't care about what you do so. When it comes to the guys, right, I look at it like this. I think that bisexual contains that. Basically, you can say that, right? But you do it a little bit more.

Swag. Yeah, this is how it is, right? I'm not saying you take everything out the labels. I'm just saying I'm on the urge if I'm open because when it comes to a man, like say when it comes to that lane, a man, like, oh, you go around these gay dudes or whatever. I'm not, I'm uncomfortable.

Like, if we make a money or whatever and you're a cool vibe, you got to be a cool dude and we got to be, because sex work is acting. So we cool, yeah. It's kind of like when you see a dude in a movie kissing another dude. I know that's wild. I'm like, what, bro?

Oh, no. But it's kind of like when they do that. that. But I don't know how they do that. I'm not, you know, Hollywood weird. Anyway, what I'm trying to say is when you act, it's like that and some people got open minds and some people can't roll with that. And like you said, some people bisexual, some people, sexual, some people like energy. It's, I like to teach people that. It's a lot of different ones. I've done porn with girls who you look at them, they look like the hottest fucking chicks, super smoking hot, hot, BBL, fake tits, whatever. And in reality, they're a lesbian. They've been in a relationship

with a woman for five, six years. And they would never have sex with a man. if it wasn't on the job. Yeah. And I mean, it's still fun, but it's like, for them, they literally are just fucking me for the check. It has nothing to do with something they would do for pleasure. Basically, I don't do that. Yeah, I don't do that a lot.

So people think, you know, you go wild. And I don't judge nobody. Anybody, you didn't talk to many people like this. Do what you want. Be free. But me, I don't do nothing a lot. Like, I do stuff for a shock value in a marketing standpoint, and I'm just open with it, and I don't care

because at this point, I can't go back. like if you look at my Twitter you think I'm gonna be like no I ain't do that what would you say your dating or sexual ratio is like is being bisexual kind of like a like a spliff where like some people have like 10% weed

some people have like 70% weed so basically that's what I'm trying to tell you I feel like this is my option bisexual is when you know what to get me wrong is when you like two to the same sex right like you you fuck with both sides in the game.

Me, I fuck with girls. I like everything about a woman. But if I want to be sexually attracted to the male side, I really don't be like, if I'm doing something for a video, I'm going to get into it because I know the people love it

and I know this look good and I'm already comfortable. Like, you can just basically say I'm comfortable with a dude in front of me now because I've been through it. Like, I went through something back in the day when I was younger and basically I got raped. Wow.

So I kind of took that trauma and a lot of people are going to be like, is it you can take the trauma no no no I took the trauma and I looked at it like I already did this so it's like when you already shoot a gun and you're not scared no more it's weird but it's like I already did it so I looked at it like I don't care I'm just that's terrible I'm sorry to hear that man yeah but I didn't know about it until I was 17 you know what it was like a repressed memory yeah like that so that's why I don't really care because I wasn't young knowing about it I kind of didn't know that's why I try to tell you my life was normal and then you get exposed

to sex code that kind of the same thing too. A lot of people don't talk about that. You get exposed to sex. You get exposed to all this addiction. You didn't get exposed to like what you would happen to your traumas or whatever, all your relationships. And then that's because sex, people have sex for pleasure and people have sex for dopamine. So some people have sex because they depressed. Right. And they're doing it because they want to get a feeling. So that's how I kind of be like, Terry Cruz kind of went through that when he was addicted. So it's kind of like that. So I took that and I just did it and made money. Well, you think you're a sex addict?

Of course. But like in an okay way or a healthy way? Or is it like an unhealthy way? In a healthy way now because I know myself. I know how to stay healthy and get tested. And I know that I don't need like if I want to like I buy underwear. I buy underwear due to the natural thing. If I want to be myself, that's why I say I'm open.

If I want to, you know, do my thing in the bathroom with my little lotion. I don't know what you all use. But I'll use that armor butter lotion, you know, get the job done. Napkins. You get a towel. But anyways, I get my stuff and then I get my underwear from the girls I work with and then boom, I don't got to mess with nobody. So I ain't got to go. I don't do that.

I don't think like, oh, I need to have it. You know how I do is be like, oh, I need this chick. I don't even look at it like that. I don't know why. I think because I work now and you know because you work, so it's like you don't care. Who did I see you hooking up with the other day that I believe I've worked with? A girl. What's the name?

I forget. I forget. Like Amher Rose. Oh, was it? She looked like her name. God damn it. I gotta go find it now.

Yeah, she got a ball head. I like that. No, you don't fucking come up when I searched my on here. Do I? Because you're fucking

shadow band as hell. I ain't shadow band, you shadow band. You're shadow band. Say no, I ain't shadow band though, for real. I mean, I just had a pretty hard time finding it.

If you type of. my name. It popped up for me. My name La Page. When did you realize you had a big ass dick? Do you put yourself in that category? I put my, this is a funny story. And I was wild. He hit me with the wop! I said, oh!

I got to answer that now. I said, no, but I was, when I was younger, that's what I tried to tell people, I don't care, man. Adam, cool, man, cool. But I try to tell people, uh, basically I started out, see, like I said, Black China, everybody, when I started posting pictures, all.

all the models was commenting and I was like, ooh, if they like it, then I should do it only fan. But I didn't think about it. Like, oh, I got a big old dig. I'm big old, you know, I was playing it off. Dude, your dick looks like inhumanly big in some of these photos, pause. But like, like this? Like, what the fuck?

That's regular picture, bro. No, I mean, I'm not like, you know, in the business of normally complimenting dudes on the dicks, but I'm like, what the fuck? Is that Photoshop or what? No. So basically, you asking the questions, bro, all of the females, I'd be irritating. Because they've known my comments be

Photoshop doing this and that, and it's funny. Ha-ha, yeah, I know giraffe neck. I got a giraffe neck. Whatever. Captain Hook, whatever. Anyways, the way I take my pictures. I take my picture in the right angle. I posted, and I had to prove it.

You know how you hold the picture and it's a video? I had to make it a video so they can see that it was a real picture. Wow. So, like, on my phone, it's got the original pictures, or original videos. And some people will be thinking my videos edited too. So I got to show them, like, hold it down. And they be like, oh, it's real.

I don't know why I can't find the girl that I was looking for on here. I mean, I'm so deep. I just scroll to your page for so long and I'm only two days in. No, not two days. Go, it's under the thread. Oh, of that one pitch. Dude, I'm so far past that picture now. You can't be scrolling down long.

You're that type of person. I'm about to just give it. I could have gone to the media tab. You can't be doing that. Bro, you'd be retweeting shit so much. No, that's the marketing thing. Wait, you hooked up with Tiana Trump? Oh, no, this is somebody retweeted, never mind.

Look, you're going down the wrong aisle. Why? What's the other aisle? Right here. And why can I still not remember this girl that was on here? Yeah, but I don't know her. So it definitely wasn't her, this baldhead girl. I did three girls that you had on here.

Come on, Adam. Who else? I had a... I just seen your dick about... 8,000 times in a row. I'm uncomfortable with this. Shut up, bro. I had, I'm trying to talk.

I had Zoe Fox. Oh, okay. I had her. I had, let me go on your page. It's funny. Now we're going on each other page. Man, you'd be saying some wild-ass shit on here. I'm a straight man who loves to suck dick.

That's a fire tweet. It's, you know, why? Because you talk about this. It's the media headlines. Imagine seeing that in the headlines. You know how wild that is? Imagine seeing me with a Brazilian model. I'm a straight male who suck dick.

Like, who the fuck is this? Like, this dude got to go. It's like the 6-9 effect. Right. But I'm not messing with nobody. But you know what it is, is that in hip-hop, there's, like, rumors about people being gay for so long. And then finally now, the past couple years,

there's a bunch of people who are out and openly gay. But I haven't seen any of them do porn. But I feel like I'm dirty damn. You're an innovator. Yeah, it's like I'm a, I'm the, I'm, I'm the transformers assemble. You feel me?

I'm the person that's going to bring everybody. Like, I do the wild stuff because you know, like my nails right. Like, nothing really because people do that now. But I tell people like, they look at me and be like, he made that legs fly.

Like, I was locked up. You know what I'm saying? And I told you, like, I got the ankle monitor. You got angle monitor right now? Yeah, you know. Why are you locked up? I had a fashion accessory. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

So the law knows you're here right now. They know where the studio is. All the girls, no, it's good because I ain't got no restrictions. I can smoke, do all that. But what did you get locked up? I had a warrant two years ago because I had a deer knife and I was high and I was walking down LAX and an unformed cop was a big fat dude. And he was like, come on, man, I'm going to fight you.

And I was like, if you fight me, I'm going to gut you like a fish, homie. And I pulled out the knife and it saw it on camera. So after that, they got a warrant because I got arrested. So I had to do the classes, but I ain't do it. Damn. So you ready to just stab a cop. Like is nothing? Yeah.

And then my homie had got me up. You were a wild boy. My homie, my big homie, West Lane blood robo, he got me out. You feel me? He right there. You know, that. If it weren't for him, I would have been like the, so the first time.

I'm starting to think twice about us talking about you on the podcast. Now I know I could have got shanked. Nah. No, I ain't like that. No, no. I ain't like that, man. I'm a cool. Like, I say like, this is what happened.

I had it because I was being that kid that I'm smoking. Like, how you smoking? And I've seen it. And I wanted to hang it up in my. house. It was one of them type of knives, but when he did that, I got scared. I'm little. So that's what happened. Then I got slammed to the ground, went to jail, and then he got me out. I'll gut you like a fish. It's crazy, though. That's hard. Like the movie, yeah. You've been thinking about that for a while. Yeah, I do that. You ain't seen me on TMZ. I spread a fire extinguisher

like a Scooby-Doo. Oh, really? Yeah, that worked. Like, you know in school we do when they spread a fire extinguisher, that worked. Because he was like, I'm about to beat, beat your ass, bitch. And I was like, no, you're not. And I was like, beat it down. You can't see me. Because you know, he can't breathe. That's the dream as a kid is to, like, attack somebody with a fire extinguisher. Because you do it in a lot of video games and shit.

But I broke it with my fist. Oh, wow. Like I said, too. Oh, the glass? Yeah, I hit the bruisele. I said, tch. You didn't cut your hand open or anything? Nope.

That's good. Yeah, that's how you knew I was mad. Then I did it again, and that's how I knew I was crazy. I was in a whole apartment building, and I sprayed it on each floor. because these people was trying to ride me. I had a homie who punched through somebody's car window and just cut multiple veins and almost bled to death when I was like 16.

And that's how I realized you should not punch a car window out. Yeah, see, when it's a little window, you know, that glass and the fire extinguisher thin, and it'd be old. Right, that's meant to be broke in there. Yeah, it was, yeah, it's meant to be hit like that. So when I hit it, got it out, boom, boop did that, and that's what happened.

But besides all that, I just stay focused. And when it came to the content now, I know exactly, like, everything we just talked about, I know exactly how to do it. And that's why it's like a lot of girls you even have, like I said, on your podcast there, I see them first. And I feel like that's a marketing thing too. Not saying I'm going through you, but it's like, that's a good thing. If they see, if they through me, then they're on you. I'm like, okay, they got a name. I don't know that.

But a lot of people don't think like that. You take Viagra or anything? Nope. Totally right. Yeah, I don't do that. How many times you bust on the day? when I went to girl When I record

And I can I know how to edge myself So I tell people You learn how to edge yourself And you can do your thing Because the girl will be asking me That like can you I nut on my command

But a lot of people How you do it drink water Stop doing black and miles Lots of water is important Stop drinking black Stop doing black and miles It's gonna taste funny All the girls are gonna tell you

You want to taste funny No smoke weed only Because when you start doing all the other stuff You taste like metal That's what the girls say I've had girls tell me That my cum tastes pretty all right and that a lot of the porn dudes that it's not always so great i drink water i think fast food

and shit preservatives yeah that's what i'm saying my bad my bad fast food yeah fast food all that for real y'all don't don't know fast food no none of that because all that i don't eat that like that i try to eat steak all eat good and all the girls gonna like that and that and that's why i be doing that but when i do come it'd be funny because they know where i'm about to do and then i be asked up so much so it be on the right thing. So when it comes to it, it's like I became the Steve Jobs of porn, I feel like.

I started to understand and create instead of being in the background because I'm not even like a pro porn star. Like, you know how people choose lanes. I'm like right in the middle of the content creation, but I'm getting to that level of being known to where, you know, I'm going to be on that level. Like, oh, he already known,

but now he's known in his lane. Are you trying to do like studio porn or anything like that? You're trying to get into the more mainstream world? Never. Never. Never did it. Would you though? It's like pretty good promotion.

I think that's why most of the guys still do it. For like, like, say a bang bro's like, let's do one video. Yeah, because they'll make it funny. I don't know how to act. They'd make it. It'd be a big thing for me. But I'd do stuff like that, but I wouldn't sign. But I'd do it, yeah.

Right. I just want a sign. Yeah, they probably wouldn't even want you to sign. They probably just do it. No, they did back in the day because you can still do it because with you, they can get more money, but you can make more money. So you can be making about $2,000. shoot and they could be making about probably

$5,000 shoot from you because you're known. And when I first did almost get signed, I had 10 shoots and it was all from big companies because the companies knew who you was and they was excited like, oh, this person, easy to promote. All this is promotion, they know you easy. They choose a girl. But they choose the wrong people.

They chose the wicked witch of the West. I got scared. I said, no. You didn't like the girl? No, I don't like that. I didn't know that you can't choose your own woman. Yeah. So that kind of made me be like, nah.

Like, I was about to do it, but then I was like... They picked a white girl? Yeah. But she was real wrinkly. Rinkly. Like real old. Yeah, like, why do you do that? You know why?

Because I got a baby face. So they wanted to see you fucking milk? They wanted me to be Lude D2.0. I hope you're not talking about somebody I know. No, not probably. No, not somebody. No, no, no. What, the girl was just a random ass chick?

She was like in America. She was with the America thing. America? That's a porn thing she was doing. Okay. And she, that's when I saw it, but she only wanted to do the work. She was, oh, she wasn't bad. It just, I didn't like that.

And I like my portfolio now. Like, yeah, I got the wild stuff, but you can't say my bitches ain't bad. That bitch is bad, ain't they? Everybody be like, man, you got the bitch I wanted, dog. I wanted that bitch all weekend. Man, all in Kelly. See, I get everybody, I'd be getting the girls because it's easy. They hit me because they know what they're doing.

Right. Hey, Zay. I want to get flu. out okay I'll be like don't take a shower because I want to smell you that's your thing yeah interesting I like aroma I tell them

no but I don't want no dirty bitch come on don't because I know people going to start no I want don't take a shower and I want to smell you because I like the way that back that that marinated a woman got that aroma so I like the way we had a girl in here saying that about a famous

football player that that was his fetish yeah that's I wonder how common that is. I'm gonna be real like I don't mind if the pussy got a little bit of smell but also if it's clean that's totally fine. No yeah. You don't need to marinate it for three days. No she, no I do that for the underwear. You marinate it for three days in the underwear like a sandwich. But when they- Marinate a sandwich? But when you, but when you, when she, no, look, this is what happens. So I tell the girl to fly out and I'd be like, don't shower before you get here. And they try to run. I'm like, no, you're like, no, you're in getting in. I like the shower door.

you're like well they want to clean up you're not allowed nah he's a very freaky guy like surviving is a hill figure he can allow me to shower honestly not

he's allowed me to shower no but they'd be totally cool with it they'd be cool with it but it'd be funny because I shower so they look at it like boy how is that a that even makes sense like you smell good

normally I like when my girl hops up the shower and that's when we have sex but now you're making me rethink it No, I like that with my girl, but I also, let me teach you a secret. When she come in, after a long day, just get down there at him and go, it's going to smell like a little bit of movie theater butter, but it's going to be straight. It's going to be straight. You're going to be straight. You're going to like it.

And then you're going to, I call it the upper lip. You're going to be walking around, like you got a mustache and it's itch. And, yeah, and then it's going to marinate even more, so it's going to turn from that to, like, sweet tart candy. I'm really, I'm really into this because I'm like an ass phonetic. Yeah. I mean, very rarely have I been left speechless on this podcast when it comes to talking about sex, but He's a freaky dude right here.

You ain't did that? You ain't did that with your girl? What? You ain't smelled her butt? No, I've licked and smelt her butt many times. But you probably did it when she got out. No. Yeah, usually.

Don't do that. Wait when she first wake up in the morning, go down there. If I were to try to eat my girl's ass after she hadn't showered for like a full day, she would fucking swap my head away like I'm in the cat. She'd be like, get out of there. No, I just can think of y'all. It's happening many times, honestly. I started trying to work my way down there.

She's like, now, I'm not clean. Go. No, that's the point, but you got to tell her. Baby, please, I want to marry that. She's going to be like, for real. I'm going to say, Zay told me. Yeah. Yeah, see?

And then that's when she's going to be like, okay. I'm Zaysexual now. Yeah. That's how you got to use it. A lot of dudes, and I ain't going to lie. They don't understand. What I say, y'all think is, not y'all, but what I say people think it's wild,

but what people don't realize is I had a girl come to me, I smell my butt. I know what it's smell. Like, I like I like, I make girls smell like butt, so they can't say nothing to me. Uh-huh. No girl can't come over here and say nothing to me. You ate my ass and you smell, you smell chores.

So there's no argument. Like, I got full-flesh videos, like, not exposed videos, but I'd be like, hey, can you put your finger in your butt and smell it on camera? This one girl jumped away. Like, I got a black hair. I don't know.

There is a feeling, like, I was at a porn party on Saturday. And, like, when you see a girl, girl who's eating your ass you never forget yeah always with you yeah you know it's always but but see you didn't see that position I did when I saw a whole fuckload of positions when I was doing my scroll right there you didn't see the yin yang you ain't see the yin yang I'm scared this the yin yang well that's just a 69 except she's eating your ass that's what I'm saying yeah I called that the pringle that's a hood classic yeah we love that one that's a pringle and I tell That's a Pringle.

And I tell people that, when people do that, I feel like a king. I got the baddest females doing that. And then they're going back to wherever they go. So they eat my ass and leave. And I'd be like, you ain't going to wash your face? No, I'm good. Wow. Nasty work.

Hood's classic. That's a hood classic. Real trap shit. No, they do that, though, for a real. And it's fun to me. Right. But I'll be telling them, I like in my Texas be wild. So I'm kind of afraid if I ever.

get so big that I get my Texas hacked because I'd be telling them like I want the room to stink the room I'd be like I want the room this thing and they'd be like oh yeah I'd be like when you got up from the seat can you smell yourself so I don't know all right I'm convinced I get it you're a free no I don't know if they want that shit to come out no I say all that because what if I get hacked like if I'm big and then they link and then you already abitted it all out here yeah I don't know what the fuck they're gonna find in there no no that's the point you admit it so they can't find nothing and then they sit there and then they just be like oh i was thinking about that how i'm never going to have to worry about anyone making AI porn of me because

no i already did it you already did everything well but maybe they could make like an alternate version i have johnny sins his body and dreads cock but in tan i'd tell like that'd be a mad wild kind of combination i tell people hollywood like i did where everywhere where hollywood would be like oh you can't do that. You know how people will be like, oh, you're gonna get exposed. No, I expose myself, so now what the contract's at.

Like, I've been waiting this shit. This shit been crazy. I've been waiting too long, like, but it's working. I'm just playing. You know, I see what people? I've been waiting. Do you think that this hurts your chances

of having more pop and rap songs? Or do you think that in a Lil Nas-esque twist, it could help? No, because I don't even act like that. I'm just wild. Like I said, like the bloods call me freaky blood. Do they? Yeah.

Like my homie blood. Oh, you freaky blood. Oh, you freaky blood. I know a freaky look, too. Yeah, so it's funny. It's like funny, yeah. It's like, because you don't disrespect nobody. You stay in your lane.

You do your thing. You don't even act like nothing in front of nobody. So half out of, you know, half out of ten, people just be like, what a bitch is that? So your blood? No. Oh, okay. They just, you know, you're in L.A. Yeah.

Like, you, I tell people, you come to L.A., you're going to be around a lot of people. And you're going to be judged, you know what I'm saying? You're going to be testing all that. Or when you go to jail or whatever. And people were like, in there, I told them. I was like, I do the only fans, and they was looking like, what? Oh, this is freaky, dog. What you be doing?

Who you'd be on there with? You didn't find love behind bars? It's not like that. What you mean? I don't know. There's all kinds of hot dudes in there, right? Nah, man. Hot dudes in there.

That's L.A. County. First of all, dudes, them ain't people. For real. Do you see Krip Mac? Yeah. No. I saw Tori. Wow.

Yeah, I saw his head. So I told him you want to do some content. No, I saw his head. I was like, that's Torrey Lane. What, the hair wasn't looking to do good? Yeah. Yeah, but he's cool, though, how power, he's straight. He'll be in there a while.

But homie's in there, it was like, yeah, on Harlem Crip, homie, homie, homie, homie, like, for real, like, Tori Lane's, we just on a yard with him, like, he, like, he's like, right? They're hype. Yeah, like, you know, homie good, like, he good with me. How are he good with you, dog? Like, leave that little man alone. He got to charge, like, leave him, let him.

Oh, man. telling everybody how he's innocent. He's probably putting on a sermon every day convincing these dudes that he didn't do it. You know how they is, right? They didn't know me. They knew me. Like, they was cool because the pot I was in.

I said I had anxiety, so I was in there where people was taking pills and kind of just crazy. Oh, you went to PC? No. Oh. I went to the regular one, but I went to the one where it was mixed with people.

Okay. So they was real chill, basically. But they were still like, so when I told them, they all acting cool, but I noticed, Tori they was on it like oh he good like he gonna help me out like for real I got him on a yard like everything good you say everything like they slicing people up it was three fights three slices I was in there for two weeks it was three fights three slices three like a piece of crazy going crazy in there people fighting

people knocking and I ain't even had to buck because I felt like people started to realize like I went in there and I was just myself I was in there teaching them how to leave just John like Oh, okay They was like Do the lease, eh? I was like For real It's funny because like

You should do that For a TikTok I could probably do that You know yeah We got to do that You go yeah Adam They're gonna be like

Adam Yeah Two porn stars You feel Me We're uniting We're uniting Man

You feel me Besides everything Man It's all positivity I tell people To unite But no When I was in there

It taught me a lot And it made me Come out to Be hungry That's why I hit you up Like that Because I'm just

focus now and I'm on bigger and better things and I'm uh and I'm healthy I ain't know no no bullshit and I'm working on stuff and I'm open like I tell people I'm cool like I can come on anywhere and be cool and that's what people fuck with I like it man I can appreciate anybody who's just keeping a real being their true self and I feel like most of the people who watch this definitely some of them are going to be like more horrified by the booty smelling stories than anything else but I think the people are going to see that you're an authentic individual yeah that's why that's why I appreciate it because I want to come in I show people Like people like, people are like, oh, like some people don't know how to talk.

People in here and her like, wait up. What's up? Yeah, Adam. Like, what up? We're out here doing it. Like, what? You're giving me flashbacks? You know what I'm saying?

Adam? Like, like, bro, move away from the mic. Like, you're too close. And I'd be telling that don't be that. Like, I look at all that and I don't want to be looked at as that. So doing it, like, that's how they do their verses, you know? You know what I'm saying? All up in the mic.

Yeah, they be all like that. And I tell people like, the way I feel right now, Don't focus, ask questions, do what I got to do, and I'm on it. Because at the end of the day, for some reason, my last name, people's, my real last name. So I feel like that adds into my personality. Like you're a people's person. So I feel like, you know, that makes people be cool with you, then be negative. You smoke the whole wood.

You ain't, oh, you got another one. Oh, I'm a known jumper. Yeah. I got to piss something fierce. But it was a great conversation. I appreciate you. filling me in on how all this went down and all that shit. Yeah, wanted to fill people in, wanted to go crazy.

I appreciate it. I tell people it takes patience to get anywhere. Because like you said, back when I was doing stuff, I didn't know where I was going with everything. But now I feel like I'm there. I'm 22, about to be 23, and I'm understanding where I'm going. So that's how I be, I just used to be cool around a lot of big people, but I didn't show it. So it's time to show it because a lot of people are like, you don't be showing nothing.

You'd be around all these good people all that. but now it's time to analyze it, network, manifest, and get it done. And with the grace of God, you'll get anything down. I'm working with the Lord, working with it. And, you know, it's funny, I believe in just higher power. I don't believe in, like, you know how some people, because I've seen everybody be on here, be on your ass,

like, oh, you believe in this and not me? I believe in a higher power. Why? Because I think on a higher level, and I just don't explain that to people because they retardate or they want to get into argument. So I just be like, you know what? That's why I feel like I'm getting through what I'm getting through.

Because I understand on a higher level what this is all about. So a lot of people be like, no, whatever. And I be into, I be on lives with my homie. We'd be all that. We'd be on that. We'd be on that. And then a lot of people, oh, I don't know. So when I hear that, I just go and turn this way.

Or when I see about that, I turn this way. And I talk about that. All that, all that. I'll be all that internet. So that, I mix that information into marketing. And that's how I get far. because if I want to be on an Apple commercial or do something big or do anything like this, it's not hard to me.

Apple commercial was a hill figure. It's like a jack of our trade. I would like to see that in 2020. Yeah, I see all that's easy. Like I had a lot of things going on, but one thing it is is people want to see your face, want to make sure you healthy, want to make sure you ain't crazy, you know, like mentally and want to make sure everything straight. So I feel like when they see this, they'd be like, okay, he got a brain.

Because I did one of our last interview and it was like, It was like through the FaceTime so you couldn't feel the energy. But this one is like they see a dude chill because like I said, I'm authentic. I'm thrilled. I'm chill and I do a lot. Like I got music, dance, you got the porn, you got the edits, you got the influence, you manage people. So you're doing all this. So you create clothing.

You know how to dress. I did modeling. I did Nike, Reebok, Adidas. And they didn't follow me. Oh, yeah, all the people on my porn, they didn't follow me. Disney Channel. Nickelodeon, Nike. They're all seeing it.

Because they tell me it's not about what you posted, about how you're at. You just start spamming your videos in their comments on Twitter. No, they're going to block them. That's what I'm saying. Adam, you're trying to get me black. Like, a lot of people being following me,

they don't got me black. The McLean people, a lot of, like, a lot of people. Like, I got radio stations. Like, you know, radio stations. I'm like, what is they doing? But, you know, the DJ probably, like, got hips.

Got hips. These radio motherfuckersers probably. don't look at who they follow anyway. You feel me? But you know how much I post. Imagine if you follow me. You feel me? I'll follow you on Twitter after this.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I was just sure. I wanted to make sure that everything was on the up and up. No, yeah. I tell people I'm good and I do different things. And also when I be having my spaces, I do my marketing, everything be straight.

So when I got going on big things, I feel like it'll make it better. I feel like this is the thing I see for me, not even predicting it. I feel like it's going to be a show or it's going to be something. like that they give me jab back, you know, because you got more energy than just music. I'm like a childish Gambino, but freaky. You do music, you do a lot, you're talented,

but you just got that wild side, and that wild side is your rebel side, but you're doing it for a good cause. You're not doing it because you're trying to be a rebel, or I'm trying to say, fuck all this, or trying to be a clout chaser. Like, no, this shit actually worked out the right way. The show, man. I'm proud of you. Keep it going. Got to. Zay Hill, Figer, no jumper, coolest podcast. and all. Check us on YouTube, TikTok, Patreon, only

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