No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1004: PGA Champ Happy Hour
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Hello guys, good to be with you.
Beautiful day up here, we're looking at the skyline,
we've got a great couch, we're getting a good test run
for tomorrow, we've got a live event here tomorrow
and so we're gonna kick it off
and do a little practice run here. It's great.
No live audience here today, except for a couple.
You can't see there's hundreds of thousands of people back here.
There's going to be a lot of people based on today.
There's going to be a lot of people here tomorrow, but Neil Schuster is here.
Hello, Neil. Good to be with you guys in person. Fantastic day. TC.
How are you? I'm good. We had to,
we had to get rid of the studio audience had a security concerns today
Always good to be in the princess city
With you Neil. I do you do have to give me credit for that one. That was
I wanted I want that one. That was I don't know how you guys didn't get to that blue in great airport here
on American Airlines just everything's everything's coming up solid
Do you see hate Charlotte just because it's an American hub. That's a certainly doesn't help.
It's not helping. Yeah, it's not like in the pros column. That's a theory that I'm working
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God, playing on the road.
Yeah, tough.
Live, live, live.
Live, live.
Good first court.
Yeah, yeah.
I felt all the eyeballs move into a herse.
Word words, V2. That's good stuff.
We got a lot to cover. We're going to save a lot of the TC verse Charlotte stuff, I think,
for tomorrow in front of a Charlotte stuff, I think,
for tomorrow in front of a live audience, I think.
Well, TC is compiling data still, right? I mean, you're giving it an honest shot.
I'm doing it. It's a discovery right now.
Yeah.
We went around last night. We ate at a couple of places. I think we went one for two last
night.
Amazing meal last night, which we'll get into.
Amazing meal. We'll get into that. I got written up in the Charlotte Observer, I guess. You got asked to go on local news. Yeah, local news. I think the NBC affiliate
here and then... You said no? No, TBD. TBD. And then the Axios, the Axios bros, they're coming at
me. And Tiny Money. They're trying to cancel me. Well, we had some fine folks out there today.
Most of the course today was great and very, some very nice people.
A couple of them said, glad TC's not with you. But a couple of them were like, I don't disagree
with this takes, but I got a ride for my city. I feel like a lot of people are just, they're kind
of stuck. You're not wrong. You're just an asshole. Yeah. That's exactly. That's fair.
A bald asshole.
We did walk a lot of the golf course. They had a great walk with
the gentleman to my left and to my right. DJ, you know, you kind of led the charge
on this saying, you know, like we talked a lot about Quail. We need to go see it
out in person. Anything surprise you? Anything stick out to you from walking
the golf course today? Yes. How do I say this? Here we go. I really enjoy, I
really enjoyed the walk. I think this is not a hot take, but like when you come to
these events
It's a lot. It's very easy to sit in the media center It's very easy to watch press conferences where nothing beats just getting out walking all 18 seeing the whole place
Which is what we got to do today, which was great. I think a lot of the stuff that
Is good about quail hollow doesn't come through on TV, which is tough
Which is tough and which is where I kind of like I don't really regret
You know missing a lot of that stuff
But when you do get in person you don't realize like the land that the property sits on is really good. It's a good walk
It's a lot of ups and downs. That's almost a
I'm sticking to the positives work it to your side go later. It's
No, it's it's it's a pretty dynamic piece of land and I think you get to that back nine starting on
14 and you're
like, this feels big. That front nine, there's a lot of pretty forgettable, pretty forgettable
stuff, you know, but you get to that back corner, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and it feels big.
That's where it kind of felt a little bit more like a major. It's gonna be a lot of
people back there. Those holes are much more interesting. And so it was just good to, you
know, it's a lot of the stuff we talk about. You don't see the slopes on the greens through the TV. You don't see a lot of the, you know,
there's just kind of some cool vistas up from a lot of those teas. Is it, you know, under
realized and all of those words that people like to use? Like for sure. But it's, it was
much less offensive, I think in person and I really enjoyed the stroll.
It was never offensive though. It's, it's fine. I think it's inoffensive. That's the whole thing.
It's a little overexposed for me.
Uh, but I will.
First thing you think of is, man, this is a really well conditioned,
well camped yard.
Yeah.
Man, I would love to have this grass.
Lot of grass, lot of grass, lot of grass that maybe we all need.
To that point, like the conditioning part is like, they're going to be able.
It looks like to withstand the barrage of rain they've got on the greens.
The excellent conditioning in the sub-air system is going to pay off, I think, in some
way this week of like, most golf courses that they play majors on are very well conditioned.
That's just like a prerequisite.
But the exceptional way they've maintained these greens has a chance to pay off in a
big way because they got five inches of rain since May 3rd like
It's the whole golf course is so wet, but the greens you wouldn't really know it
Tc, can you pull off one of your shoes? You're wearing? This was a heady play
Where these like my clogs out there today? Yeah, these are my Birkenstocks
I graduated from the from the Crocs to the Birkenstocks DJ wore his platform shoes today to get ready for our
to the broken stocks. DJ wore his platform shoes today to get ready for our high count. We decided in case you missed, was that the last happy hour or was that Sunday? That was Sunday.
Yeah. TC and I had a whole thing about who's taller and I've been sitting with that and
reflecting on it the last couple of days. We've decided. You're a little shook now.
Yeah. I don't love my, the odds makers don't love me. TC went to the chiropractor on Monday.
That was so messed up. God, I'm trying to stay Monday. That was so messed up. I'm trying to stay calm.
It was so messed up.
TC went right to the chiropractor to get stretched out as he was taller.
It's crazy.
Looks like four inches taller than he was last week.
Can I tell you something?
We decided we're going to we're going to do the measurement in front of the studio
audience tomorrow.
So we've been intentionally that's why we're seated on opposite sides.
We don't we haven't been standing next to each other.
We don't want to, you know, we're trying we're trying not to, uh, to spoil it. So we'll do that.
If there's any like, um, you know, what's it called? Notaries in the audience tomorrow,
maybe they can kind of really rubber stamp that thing, but we'll, we'll solve that tomorrow.
What were we talking about? Where were we?
Hold on. I, I, about the course. So I want to invert, uh, uh, kind of a segment we do,
I was in the bird in delight.
I want to say something that was unsurprising and that something I was undelighted by unsurprised
that we ran into team Rose on seven DJ of course, check the T sheet and get out and get eyes on.
How could that not be a delight? He hit an absolute. Well, I was just unsurprised by it.
That's not the end of it. He. Hidden absence seed into seven with a three
wood shot. And Justin Raystatt, the only guy to be in the top 15 of a PGA championship
the last five years, I believe. Nobody's talking about team Rose. Playing with John Catlin,
which surprised me and Daniel Berger. But I bring that up because seven, something that
undelights me is I really
think seven's a great hole.
I do.
If there's anything I miss from Valhalla is the falling water.
I wish there was some more falling water.
I think they could get, especially the waterfall on 18.
Isn't it big enough for you?
I hear, yeah, no, I'm saying saying how I'm saying like out on seven. Like
if we're going to do it, let's do it. And I think on the green mile, that big lake,
I think we can have like maybe just your classic features, some features, you know, a little
sprinkler in the middle. Get a car out there. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, it's interesting. Just
a couple on site observations. I heard from a friend of the friend of the pod who we were
talking to out there right after that we split off.
You guys didn't let me follow Rose in, which was very messed up.
But he stuck around.
He said, team Rose walking off that green and looked every single person in the eye
who was cheering him on said, thank you.
Thank you.
They're like, honestly, that's so cool.
Pretty class.
Pretty class.
Can't argue that.
So, you know, take that for what you will.
Team Rose loves bankers
I feel very comfortable here. He knows it takes a team
Well, let's see what you can lean on let's get in
We're gonna get into some quotes about the golf course that were shared this past week
But again before we get there, I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you four positives about quail hall if you'll allow me
Okay, I think there's some excellent run-up areas to the greens again back on the conditioning note
I don't know exactly what kind of grass is is I should know this but they have a different
Kind of grass in the fringes and run-up areas that can allow shots to they have
Tahoma on the I was talking to
Couple people about this today. They have to homo in the run-up areas and then it's just
Overseated rye training wheels in the fairways. But it's a nice, like, firm adjacent area for nice run-up areas and creates some nice
short grass around some of the greens.
I would say that the bunkers are not, they're not like awkwardly removed from where they
should be.
Some of these golf courses that we rip on a little too much, like they're too far set
back into some places.
They have some spots where they cut into fairways just a little bit.
It's not amazing, but it's, you know, that's a small positive.
I would say there's some positive and then some good contouring on the greens,
some good tiers on some of them.
Seven has an interesting concept here.
A front left pin, if they use that on seven looked interesting.
We saw Catlin put it off the green from down below on that one.
Got to control your spin this week.
And it's Valhalla had just mega flat greens.
Like it was, it was very silly. And again, I'm trying to point out Quail's in a it's, Valhalla had just mega flat greens. Like it was very silly.
And again, I'm trying to point out,
Quail's in a different class than Valhalla.
They were especially hard on that golf course.
And Quail is much more mid.
Valhalla is just genuinely not good.
I feel like the people of Scarlett
should be sending Christmas cards and gifts
to the people of Louisville.
Louisville is a much better city, I think,
from a restaurant and everything perspective
But quail hollow and ball hollow not even in the same ballpark as far as this is a far better golf course
And I'd say there's just a there's a mix of some good short grass areas around the greens
I think there should be a lot more and come back on on the back nine
Well, you're not on the front nine, right?
Like that was one of our observations was you look at a whole like 15 that part five
And we were talking about out there Neil. We're like, man. This is like really cool bunkers are in cool places
There's a lot of cool runoffs. There's a lot of tools on that wall
But it's like this almost feels like what you could do a lot more on the front line
Yeah, maybe there's reasons why they can't they can spend another 25 million dollars redoing most grass
I would say we could definitely smell the fuzz is the most
most of grass. I would say we could definitely smell the fuzzies and the musk.
Coat your grandfathers. A lot of bunkers on the outside of dog legs.
The old rattle pointed out on the first hole. They're like, yeah,
the bugger just on the outside of the dog leg inside of the dog inside out.
It's like, kind of like, yeah, that did shake me a little bit.
But there is just like,
I'm not very good at this at like looking at a hole and being like,
oh, they should do this, they should do this, except when you get to quail, some stuff just
sticks out so freaking hard. Like we got to seven, the rough between the fairway and the,
it's one of the best features they have on the whole course is the water that runs right of seven.
That fairway should be pushed all the way up against that. You want to hit the fairway and
hit this green and two risk going in the water, put some elements of risk into it and you can look at it.
And then it brings that bunker on the left into play. If you're trying to avoid that.
Yeah, I agree.
But the players wouldn't like that. Quill Hollow, it is nothing if not a, you know,
Webb Simpson set of pass.
I think that takes you to our quotes section.
There are so many areas around these greens that are not the thickest rough, but thick
enough to stop a ball that are flat and
genuinely just easy spots easy spots to bail for a major championship and that's again the good the critique here is like
This is a PJ tour golf course a good PJ tour golf. It's solid but you get to some of these spots
And you're just like oh if you get out of position here just bail long left and you're chipping
It's totally fine to chip to any pin and that's what what I think separates it or fails to separate it from other golf courses.
Anyway, some of the quotes we got this week.
Gabby Herzog's excellent article in the Athletic.
Again, not our quotes.
No, these are coming from others.
There's others too.
Hunter Mahan delivered one of the quotes of the week,
says, I guess I would say Quail Hollow is like a Kardashian.
It's very modern, beautiful, and well-kept,
but it lacks a soul or character.
Just, that's just devastating. Perfect approximation.
It's, it's, it's a good representation of Charlotte.
Right. Right. And Gabby in the media center, before we said anything,
she's kind of like gave her a look. She's like, yeah, I know, man. Like that quote, that quotes
everywhere. Yeah. A hundred rules.
Web Simpson said the course is very challenging, but it's not tricked up.
Guys love to be challenged in the right way, not tricked up, but real tough golf holes
and quail has great variety of them.
We will only be challenged.
The challenges that we consent to.
Yeah.
This is what we're telling you how to agree with everything in that.
Variety.
The variety.
But the last part just I flat out from my eye, not true.
The only thing I'd push, I mean, I guess like, yeah, just the front and back just felt wildly
different to me.
But the variety being, it's all kind of crammed into those last five holes.
Well, you challenged me, I want you to give me, and we're gonna do it tomorrow.
Like give me two holes you like, two holes you don't.
I got to like 14th hole was like kind of interesting.
I was like, man, what is the second hole that I, what is the second hole? It's fine. Anyways, some
more quotes. Cool. I like 18. Justin Thomas, again, kind of
two pretty devastating quotes here just JT, I feel like a
place like this where it doesn't necessarily require a lot of
thought or strategy off the tee. It's generally pulling out
driver and I just need to hit this as far and straight as
possible.
Kyle Dyrden,
Rory McIlroy said I thought it was going to feel different just because it's a major championship.
And I got out on the golf course yesterday and it felt no different
than last year at the Wells Fargo.
Also not the current sponsor, the other bit.
Uh, he said the rough is maybe a little juicier, but the fairways are the
same cut lines and same visuals.
It doesn't feel that much different.
That's a tough one.
Which puts a lot of pressure.
This is maybe silly, stupid, like golf inside business stuff, but it like, it doesn't feel that much different. That's a tough one. Which puts a lot of pressure.
This is maybe silly, stupid, like golf inside business stuff. But like when you hear a quote
like that from someone like Rory, I feel like that puts a ton of pressure on presentation,
fan experience, like going above and beyond on a lot of that other stuff. And I guess
we'll see how that shows out.
We're going to get a banger of a leaderboard on Sunday.
Probably. And they're going to be like, see how that shows out. We're going to get a banger of a leaderboard on Sunday. Probably.
And they're going to be like, see?
Told you guys.
I think what's hard about it, this is what Sal and I were talking about this today, is
again, no shade to anybody.
Perfectly fine golf course.
It just doesn't make you super excited to watch the first like 63 holes.
You know, it's kind of like a little bit of a like, coming down the street.
Sunday morning, man.
I'll probably be pumped.
You know what they always say. like a little bit of a like coming down the Sunday morning, man. I'll probably have four. I'll probably be pumped.
You know what they always say.
I'm excited about the storylines.
Like 17 that part three.
You didn't think it's that interesting.
I'm like, I think that down the stretch, like that's that's a that's stress and drama to me.
Like it's a striking R3.
That's a good finish.
And if somebody has a two shot lead and Bales long, right.
And easily chips on the green.
You might like I would feel like I want it to be like no you got to pass the test here even with a lead this
is in doubt open this one can I I got a course for each of you a comparative
course each I'll start with you actually no TC I'll start with you well hollow or
Atlanta Athletic Club well they're about to blow up okay but the current but like
so I was I was saying at the athletic club today because.
Like my issue isn't necessarily just with Quail, it's just with like,
you know, this place is just overexposed and it'd be the same thing if if.
Major championship went to Eastlake or every year we went to Atlanta Athletic.
Yeah. Right. And it's like, no, like we don't even do that.
So but what's your answer? I'd say I think this is a better probably a better golf course
than the current iteration. Okay. I got a question for you.
The only build on that real quick in case we don't come back to it is like, I feel like
Torrey Pines is a good comp. Yeah. But even that is February for the farmers versus June
for the US Open. Whereas this, as you said, the other day is like, that's like a week later than it usually is. So it's like really the same
time. Really? Yeah. Really? So it's a Muirfield village. I knew that was coming. Versus I'm
trying to make them, you know, definitely Muirfield. You have a lot of no contest. Definitely
Muirfield. But you're not like far off with that. I don't think so either. That's where
that then that's kind of where I'm putting Quail Hollow is with with Muirfield. But I don't know if I'd be super excited if they took the PGA to Muirfield.
I'd probably like Muirfield a much more interesting golf course. I think that's the criticism. It's not so much like quail hollow sucks. It's just like, man, I feel good with this as a PGA tour stop. I feel like I could be I don't know, could be wrong. Check me on this. But I feel like the downside around the greens at Muirfield is much sharper.
Whereas there were a lot of spots out there today where it's like, if you're
walking around with a yardage book, you're just like big swaths of just like miss
the bunker or even hit it in the bunker.
It's not that bad, but like all this is fine over here.
Whereas Muirfield village feels a little more like a exacting iron test.
Cause it's like, if you miss, it's going to be tough.
The roughs a lot thicker, greens are going to be,
I'm maybe the greens will be fast.
It's such a striking difference too, to watching TBC Sawgrass.
We're like, we were next to the third green.
If you go over the bunker short left of the green,
like there's just some big flattish rough area that you can chip to any pin
from. Whereas like, if you go like left of the second green at TBC Sawgrass,
there's moguls, there's mounds, there's a combination of deep rough, short rough, and short grass in there. You do not know what
you're going to get. It is not just like I hit it over there and figure it out. You're going to pay
a penalty there. That's where some of us nerds that really care about shot value, a lot of that
gets thrown out the window. And that's not even our words. Literally just listen to the other
people describing this golf course that are playing in it. And that's where I don't care about this stuff. But these these podcasters
solid. That's where I'm struggling a little bit with, you know, some of these guys talking
about all the golf course architecture nerds are saying this or that or whatever. And it's
like, all right, cool. Like, tell tell me what you like about this place. Other than
winning scores going to be like 1500. under like it's gonna be great.
I couldn't agree to that more.
That's what I feel like I've seen more and more pushback to that, which is totally fine.
But it's like, yeah, well, I would love to hear the other side of the argument or just
like it's it's sick.
It's so pure.
Or if it's so good, why do you why do you keep manipulating every year and bringing
the FOS back to bilk Johnny Harris out of tens of millions of dollars
over and over and over again. Crazy.
I have two for you. Oh, one because one I'm not super familiar with. I know they just
redid it but Quail Hollow versus Medina and Hazel Teane.
Hazel Teane is a really good comp. I feel like Hazel Teane.
I would take Quail Hollow over Hazel Teane.
For sure.
I think I would too. Yeah, I think I would too.
We don't see Hazel Teane. What about think I would do. Yeah, I think I would. You don't see Hazel. What about Beth?
He has a little bit of gravitas Medina.
I'm going to play the fifth because I haven't seen the new new one.
Old Medina, though, I would probably take Quail Hollow over old Medina, too.
OK, what about
Beth Page?
I
I take Beth Page, honestly, some of that's probably because I haven't.
I don't see it as often
Yeah, and I think that's a
Especially after the expose, yeah, I said Bethpage sugar like at least has some variety and some of that thick straw II. Yeah
There's just no texture out
Grass yeah
It's a lot like Charlotte. Yeah. A lot of grass.
It's a lot like Charlotte.
It's a good game, Neil.
I like the, I like the, this place with that place.
Yeah.
Good comp.
I think that's great.
I think it's a good game.
But it also, it's like Quail's not, even if, even if they got bit or, you know, got beat
by one of those examples, like all of those are good golf courses, I think.
It's jazz chism.
It's mid.
That's exactly what it is.
It's just a bummer that we were talking about this.
God, he's placed such good defense.
Because there's not a whole lot else to talk. It feels like we're at a signature event.
There should have been a pro-AM today.
I was thinking about that, though.
Or Creator Classic. We were saying it doesn't feel big because there's not a Creator Classic.
Well, I was-
That was Neil's joke. I stole that deal. I'm sorry.
Every... The last four years, though, it's been electric once the tournament starts.
Yeah.
I mean, Officer Gillis, we're gonna have-
Bill Mikkelsen.
We had a Good golf tournament. You know, bro. Oh, kill was electric. Just with good,
good golf and a golf course. We don't see a lot of them. So it almost, I was saying
my, my takeaway a little bit or, or my analogy was in, in a, from a country club standpoint,
it's not the club championship. It's the member guests like, yeah, it's a, we might get out
of the skis, but the horse race is going to be fun at the end. You know, it's gonna be good at the end. I guess the
whole thing is lights, you know, I'm not aggrieved by it. It's
fine. But I'll say of all of it, the part that bums me out the
most is I honestly, I don't know if I can even talk myself into a
non bomber winning this thing. It is become it is so one note
that even before the week starts all the golf course setup, the
changes they've made to it, nine is like five thirty now a par four
Like it is going to be a Bombers delight in every single way that it's like it just I don't know
I would like to I like to go into with some mystery sprinkle in five inches of rain as well
Just what was the stone?
Oh, yeah, I want to hear I want to hear who the rest of these guys were
It was a great sad. This was sent over by, uh, Ron Kloss from bet spurts. Um,
he guys is Ron Kloss having a moment. I know he's hot pain or something. No,
he just has a lot of good data. A lot of good info. Uh, he said there are 11 players in the
PJ championship that have a combination of 180 ball speed and 110, uh, feet apex height.
On average, I assume drive fast and really high. Yeah. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm Lee is a good one. Ludwig is barely on it.
Ram? Ram is not. Xander's not on it either.
Xander's not on. We could do this forever, but Gary Woodland, David Pooge,
Wyndham Clark. I didn't realize Gary Woodland hit it that high. Michael Thorbjornsson, Taylor Pendreth,
and Brooks Koepka. I didn't realize Brooks hit it that high. I didn't really either.
Great stat. Listen,'t really either. So great stat.
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You want to do a little who said it.
Sure.
Guess who?
Guess who?
Uh, all right.
I was just, you know, there's nothing crazy dynamic in here,
but a couple of interesting ones that I think will lead to some
talking points where can we, let me just get this one out of the way.
Uh, quote, we're representing
the 31,000 that talked to the 28.1 million. Don Reeve. Don Ray. Ray. I would think. Yeah,
Ray. Okay. Pastor Don. The last Don. I just threw that one. That was red meat. I know
you're loving that one. I might. I think in that press conference, I watched the whole
thing. I think he said on behalf of the 31,000, at least three times.
You know what? One more thing. One more thing. I'd like to opine on that.
Yeah.
Just absolutely out-thing your boy, D. Sprague.
I mean, he had a lot more energy than, you know, the new CEO. I mean, at least he was...
They were like...
I don't know. He was commanding the space he occupied up there on the six exact mentions of 31,000.
Of the 31,000 PGA professionals.
Of course, they were so, yeah.
They were both contradicting one another.
Do you, do you would jump in?
I mean, it was one of the most T.C.
was all it was like Zapruder in the press conference yesterday for background
information, this was the press conference with Derek Sprague, who's the
CEO of PJ of America, Don Ray, who's the president of PJ of America.
And Kerry Hague, who's the chief championships officer.
That's the press conference that you were talking about.
And all three had very different vibes.
Kerry Hague just sounded like,
I'm not interested in answering your questions.
Dude, I just read the transcript.
I didn't watch the video, but in the transcript,
it came off as like very weirdly defensive.
Yeah, well.
I don't know if that was the vibe on video sometimes.
Defensive even a little condescending. Of like, why, you know, why, I don't have to answer that. vibe on video. Sometimes it's a little condescending.
Honestly, there was a very deep, deep lack of truthfulness in some of their answers as well.
From Hague, it was very much like, I don't know you guys anything. Our entire ethos with this championship is to react to the golf course that we're given.
So we're just reacting to this place.
OK, yeah.
It was weirdly like catering to players as in like, but also I don't talk to players.
Yeah, I don't talk to the players.
It's not my job.
It's like, OK, then what do we do?
You know, it's just.
I don't like it when it's combative, Like your questions are pointless before I even get up here.
It's like that's not that it doesn't have to be that way.
Whoever asked these questions finally was like, you know,
Ferguson, I want to have a great week. Sorry. I'm not talking about our parking.
Like talk to me about the golf course.
Kerry, it was especially like what a valid question.
Yeah, like this is a PGA Tour event.
Now you're hosting a major.
You're going to do anything different or anything different.
And it was just, yeah,
they cut the fairways yesterday morning and he said they didn't cut the fairways
yesterday. It was, they didn't cut the rough yesterday. Okay.
But the whole thing and then going back to the rollback stuff too,
there's a lot of just like, we have no idea what they're even thinking.
Like we haven't had any talks at all versus...
No, no.
He said about Liv stuff, but he said they talk regularly with the USGA.
He said, we haven't had any talks at all about Ryder Cup or PGA Championship, joint venture
or deepening ties with the PGA Tour.
And then Ray chimes in and he's like, yeah, we talk to those guys like all the time.
And like, I think you and Murray had a big piece of like,
yeah, like they've had deep discussions
because I'm sure he's getting all this stuff
from the DP World Tour and like,
yeah, we've had deep discussions about the PGA Tour
taking a more active role with the Ryder Cup
and offloading this to them for a larger fee.
So just an unserious or...
It was a weird press conference from what I gathered in there.
So on behalf of the 31000, thank you for your question for that.
The first response.
28 million.
May 31,000 who talked to the 28 million.
It's like it's like the guys in office space that I take the plans from the engineers.
The engineers aren't good to talk.
They're not good at talking to the customers.
I'm a people person.
People person. God damn it.
Don is a people person.
He was electric up there on the pulpit.
All right, let's move on.
This next quote, this is kind of a quote, I'm kind of Frankenstein in this thing to
clean it up a little bit.
I've tried not to watch it a lot because I want to remember the feelings I had I've talked about this before
But I think when I rewatch a lot of things back
I only remember the visuals of the TV rather than what I was feeling and seeing through my own eyes
So I've tried not to watch it back too much
Rory Mackerel that was Rory Mackerel talking about I thought that was just a really cool quote. Talking about the winning the grand slam,
winning the masters for such a like wildly famous moment that's going to live in
golf history forever. I really enjoyed that perspective of, man,
I I'm the only person who remembers what it felt like for me.
And I don't want to turn it into like some YouTube video that I just watched.
Isn't that a good quote? Yeah, I thought that was super interesting.
I really liked that.
Cause yeah, your memory will forever be
of like the YouTube part of it.
Totally.
And I honestly, to that point,
like I was behind 18 Green,
but I couldn't see anything and I still haven't,
I've seen the still images,
but I haven't seen like him making the final putt yet.
I'll probably watch it, but it's like, you know,
it was like a word of mouth.
It was just like based on the crowd reaction.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
I that that one really struck me.
I really like that quote a lot.
Uh, next quote.
It would be an honor to bring the break 50 series to Quail Hall.
You really said that today.
His presser, I think yesterday, that was Brian. He think that's a good one. I think that's a good one. I think that's a good one. I think that's a good one.
I think that's a good one.
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I think that's a good one. I think that's a good one. I think that's a good one to do something at Quail Hollow? And I think it was like, Oh yeah, it'd be an honor to bring this week, but it black
and white out of context, it would be an honor to bring the break to Quail Hollow.
Bryson should do something with the 31,000.
Deeply dystopian quote.
Do you think Bryson, if given the choice, would rather play in the PGA championship
this week or do a breaking 50 video this week?
I think he'd rather play because I PGA championship this week or do a breaking 50 video this week. I think he'd rather play because I think he's going to win by a lot.
Yeah, and I think he still cares about those trophies.
All right, a couple more, which is good.
I thought this was a good one, too.
It's been a process for me to get back to that point where I'm okay hitting bad shots
or hitting it out of place. That's been a
process coming back. Thinking back to last year, I was in such a good state of mind.
All I was doing was trying to win tournaments. If I had to hit a shot lefty on the last hole,
I wasn't going to be rattled links. Master.
Speaker 2 I was going to say Spieth.
Speaker 1 Zander Schauffele. I thought that was super interesting. He was talking about
how last year he just got into this mode of like, I do not care what happens. I'm just going to win.
And I just am going to keep hitting good shots. And if I hit a bad one, the next one's going to be good.
And he's like, man, I came back from injury. I'm like, just not as sharp as I was. And I'm hitting bad shots. I'm not really dealing with it the same way. And Zander's always much more interesting than people give him credit for.
A lot like a lot like Scotty. And I just I enjoyed that.
I think it's more interesting than people give him credit for a lot like a lot like Scotty and I just I enjoyed that. Brian Lavner had a great piece this week on Zander's dad's apocalypse compound in Hawaii that he's building.
That's sweet.
Oh, God.
Fly me there.
I was talking about place and it was like, yeah, dad, I understand you now.
That's what he said at the end of it.
All right. Last one.
Couple different directions we could go here.
I like this one.
It's always a battle to try to stay in the present.
I think when I was in college, my coach did a really good job of helping me learn that skill.
He really preached when you're at the golf course, you're at the golf course.
When you're in class, you're in class.
When I'm out doing stuff with my friends, I'm out doing that.
I don't want to be hanging out with my wife thinking about my golf swing.
And I don't want to be out at the golf course thinking about being at home,
doing stuff. Brian Harmon,
Scott Scheffler. That's Scott Scheffler. Of course.
The goat at just seemingly staying in the presence.
And that I just think is like the most underrated skill in humanity.
You're playing with their trouble. I'm getting ahead of yourself. What herated skill. I know. Humanity. Playing away from trouble.
Not getting ahead of yourself.
What he's talking about right there.
Like, yeah, that's incredible.
That's what I had.
Just a fun couple days of press.
With podcasting.
Yeah.
Let alone like pressure cooker major golf.
Winning majors.
Yeah.
He's such a stud.
All right.
Well, let's not beat around the horse any more than we already have.
We've been on the horse. Beat around the horse. Bush. Beat around the bush. Let's not beat around the horse anymore than we already have. Beat around the horse?
Bush.
Beat around the bush.
Let's not beat a dead horse.
Let's not beat a dead horse.
Apparently there was an executive.
What did I just say? My brain is all over the place.
This guy kept track of over like a 40-year career of all the people that did that, like,
combined two analogies, like, does the pope shit in the woods, you know?
Yeah.
Well, no, that's too different. Well, you know what? We're beating around the woods. Yeah. Like, well, no, that's different.
Well, you know what we're beating around the horse.
Let's keep beating around the horse now that you bring it up.
He had like a list of like 500 of them. Anyway, please.
Some interesting pairings this week. Um, first one up Keegan Bradley,
El Capitan is playing with Maverick McNeely and one Andrew Novak in the opening
round. What a random pairing from the PGA of America.
I am so in on that. Like this is so... This is so vindicating, I think, of you just
like treating this as if it's some thousand-year storm that could never
possibly happen. Well, catch me up. So what's your Novak take? Because I'm sensing there's a...
What's your Novak take? So innocently, I was like, I don't know, guys playing
really good golf? Not a lot of great Americans? Andrew Novak take? So innocently, I was like, I don't know, guys playing really good golf, not a lot of great Americans.
Andrew Novak, is there a chance?
And Solly just like, refused to acknowledge it.
It was crazy.
A lot of odds on guys on that list.
I just don't know how many years we need.
Solly wants to change things up, but he also wants to just go back to the boys club.
I've survived so many iterations of this that I just like, you have it.
I assume body I assume that we will
remember like the Kevin Na campaign in 2021 the Kevin Kisner one the Lucas Glover and the one
that went through August. Well, it is May if this was happening all throughout this summer.
I think we could visit this conversation but I just I'm not going to get swept up in a moment
come May where me my associate TC get on board is like, what if he keeps playing well? That
would be amazing. And that's what I'm saying. Like where he's going to need. No, he has
it. He doesn't have enough credit. What is having enough credits for that toy right now?
What if he keeps playing well? What if all of these things do not allow so much what
if between now and September, you got to say, I think I feel
confident that this is going to happen. I need you to put your name on things. Yeah.
I do this all the time. I feel confident in this. I feel confident. Sam Johnson, I think
should be on the team. I hope Andrew Novak plays amazing golf through the rest of the year. I
really do. I like rooting for him. I like watching him. I think he's funny. I think he gives me shit.
Back your ass down. What happened this week?
I went up, introduced myself to him and he's like, hey, good to meet you in person. Hope I improve my Ryder Cup chances this week. It's great. Like he's in a good joke.
Where are you at? Let me give you a, I'll give you a Sam Burns versus Andrew Novak.
Like if they were playing next week, I'd pick Andrew Novak.
Okay.
I'm not a big Burns guy though right now. Okay. But like, do I think it's more likely that somebody
else is going to have played good golf through the end of the year and be a better candidate
than Andrew Novak? Like I do. Okay. He's playing for the National Take, but it sounds like
you were shouting down my guy for dreaming. Well, I can't do a full year of just like
good shot in there from Harris English.
Should he be on the team?
He's like, why would we even get out of the game?
He's playing on a team.
Yeah, he's playing really good.
I'm just pulling out random names.
Auchie. What do you think?
What I would contend is there's just no reason to watch about that stuff.
That's true.
That's what we I need it.
I need it, man.
Otherwise, I'm skipping the first 63 and I'll catch you guys on the back.
Fun trip. Serious take. His ball striking is not at a level that I would be very strongly considering for a place like Beth
Page. What a measure. Great around the green. Super helpful. Thank you. Are you going to shorten it though? Maybe, but he's like not long.
He's not accurate. He's not especially good iron player. Great around the greens. Great on the greens the greens But like I just don't think that formula guys. Guess what?
Is he he can plays with both these guys and he just picks himself
Breakfast this morning was scoffing at Novak's lone victory this year, which came
scoffing at No Vex loan victory this year, which came in a team event. Admittedly, the writer is a team event.
And admittedly, I was thinking he won the truest for a second this morning.
I was a little foggy and I forgot it was a no.
That's that's my guy set.
Of course, you also need to apologize.
I don't know. He's a step guy.
He played great in the MVP of the West Coast.
Which is a good comp for that age.
I feel great.
I mean, not very good on a Sunday when the pressure was on.
Will you admit, admit this,
this pairing is not by accident.
100%.
The PGA of America runs the Ryder Cup,
they run this week.
They're gonna put Keegan Bradley
with whoever he wants to get eyes on.
And that at least has to make you think
that there's a chance that this is being considered.
Yes, I'll admit that.
Okay. That's exciting.
Wow. Watching you guys
in my community. It's a good story. I was surprised by it. Let me just, let me get that That's exciting. Oh my god. You guys like or unity. Yeah, it's a good story. I was surprised by it
I let me just believe and hey, you know what?
No, what?
Do you think he's gonna be on a team right now? Oh
No, but that's I'm betting on him. I think he is
I hope so. Okay, that's what I'm rooting for. I think he's a good
Interesting with I'm not ready to be right. I'm rooting to just like good for him.
If you had to lock the team in now for the Ryder Cup, would he be on your team?
Yes.
I think he's like the 12th guy.
Dude, he's a dude.
He's a dog.
He's a terrier.
No, I'm not locking him in right now, but I'm also not like, I, when he says that,
I'm like, you know, I'm not like absolutely not,
you know, I'm like, yeah, that let me think about it. You know, I'm riding for my guy, Akshay.
If he puts a sustained summer together, it's a different conversation. Did you see him before
or after you saw Alex Smalley and his mom? It's right around the same time. So I don't remember.
Was that pretty jarring for you? It was very jarring. It was Alex Smalley's mom following up
the walkway. I was like, oh yeah, this is a real thing.
Other pairings of note.
We got Rory's, Andrew and Scotty at eight 22 tomorrow morning.
Brooks, Ricky and Shane Lowry seven 38.
Phil Fleetwood and Jason day at seven 49.
Rom can't lay in fits at eight.
That's the highlights of the morning wave, morning wave the afternoon JT DJ and
Morikawa at 114 TC said I'm not DJ is done enough to earn that pairing which I
think is interesting comment with Ludwig at 125 that could be a Ryder Cup
pairing to what sorry say that one again be three in Ludwig that could be
the PGA trying to put you know let's get this dream team back together.
What's up with this Ludwig guy that just absolutely pants last time.
Let's get him a look. Yeah. Yeah.
Bring game. Yeah.
I hope Reed gets this with it. Yeah. Jordan apologized for everything in 2018.
It was good to clear the air. Yeah.
Guessing guess my name is going to be Jordan Spieth.
I mean this 1000% writers.
Rider cup is such a black hole for me.
Solly Keegan says, I can't do it. I need you to be the rider cup is such a black hole for me. Oh, sorry
Keegan says I can't do it. I need you to be the Ryder Cup captain and it starts tomorrow and for some reason I'm gonna put we have to plan we have to either conflict of interest. We have to pick Novak or Patrick Reed. Oh my god
Okay, can I answer by the end of the show?
After what I saw to Gusta and how greasy he was,
give me Reed, no offense to anyone, Novak, I'm sorry.
JJ Spawn or Patrick Reed.
It's a team event, which you guys know.
Yeah.
It all depends on the philosophy of what you're gonna,
are you trying to build a team?
I cannot stress how low the stakes of answering this question
are, you can say anything you want.
Low the stakes, are you gonna remind me of this
every single day for the next four months?
That's in traffic. Are you a gonna remind you of this every single day for the next four
None of this is low stakes
Yeah, we got a WD
Across the world saw this WD. That's not good
Honestly, I could depend on like philosophy of what you're going
Are you just trying to put the 12 most talented guys or you trying to like actually on the team?
You know, I would be trying to form a team, but I was thing. Tease that out. Yeah. I need to get to
know the personalities. A lot better answer. Remember that this I don't know.
I don't know these guys on behalf of the 31,000 and so and the 28.1 and that's a
lot of presentation. So I understand, you know, you get Alex small and you would
need to get me one way to lay out my entire philosophy for how I would build
the team before I can answer a question like that. How about that?
I think euros are going to wait on a home soil.
I'll take Novak.
Again, I want you to remember.
We got five beans in the field this week.
Reed shot like 84.
I'm saying this is coming out of your mouth right now.
Yeah. Reed shot like 84. Remember, I just want to watch the world turn now.
Widen said Tiger apologized to him about how bad Tiger played, threw the captain under
the bus, complained about the pairings. about the pairings think about that content for us
I'm are we thinking for this model. We're trying to win is a different question as well. Interesting
Hideki Windham and Tom Kim at 136 Tom Kim was playing in the opposite field event last week in Myrtle Beach
They played with a major champ a lot of these pairings have a guy that's like, I'm sorry
What did you do to deserve this one? What the third guy in a lot of these pairings have a kind of like, I'm sorry. What did you do to deserve this one? What the third guy in a lot of these pairings?
They should have put blocky instead of Tom Kim.
God, we're blocking. It's such a poofer out there today.
It was sick watching him play. What was that? 12.
12. Yeah. That pairing feels like a full swing pairing.
It does.
Like, hey, we got an episode. We're doing Hideki and, you know, Tom this week.
Global Superstar.
We got Bryson Victor and Gary Woodland at one 47.
So we've got to wait for Bryson tomorrow, but he'll be in the TV window.
So, all right, let's stop being around the Roy Scott, Ian Zander.
Right. That's exactly right. We're done being around the horse. Uh,
we are going to make our picks to win the PGA championship in
2025. Quail how and DJ, you are up first. Pick to win.
Bryson. I, I, I'm glad looking at his drive. I don't know. Exciting breakfast for us this morning. We're looking at Bryce's driving stats.
And it truly, I mean, we were saying it on Sunday night too, but it's like,
it's so far beyond what I think many casual fans are going to be.
I mean, I think it's like,
it's like the most exciting breakfast for us this morning.
We're looking at Bryce's driving stats and it truly, I mean,
we were saying it on Sunday night too, but it's like, it's so far beyond,
uh, what I think many casual fans are realizing, like how much better of a, like he was already
such a good driver of the golf ball and he's taken a massive step forward this week.
And so as we're going to sit here for a half hour and talk about how this place is bombers
only, like there is, you know, that's the prerequisite to get through the door.
It's like,
kind of feels like him versus six or seven other guys.
And I just feel the best about him getting into that group of seven and
slamming the door. Like he's just, he's playing awesome golf.
This place seems to fit him. And I don't know if you have anything else to add.
I know. I mean, I'll just echo that. I'll go ahead and say, yeah, I'm picking them as well because
I know I'll just echo that. I'll go ahead and say I'm picking him as well because it I feel like it is putting has actually been really good too and it's a
place that emphasizes both driving distance and putting and it I don't want
to say it minimizes approach play but like he can just bully this place in a
way that like really it's it's so stock to say I feel like we're getting a Roy Bryson thing again, but
I struggle to come up with any other conclusion.
I really do.
I really like, did you guys read Joseph Lamonia had a piece with Fried Egg about like why Quail
is so bomber friendly and his, I'm going to hopefully not butcher it, but his main point
was it's because like you gain the most as a bomber, you gain the most advantage on drivable
par fours and par fives.
Eight.
And because like that's where you can feed because his point was there's a big difference
between a 15 yard pitch and a 25 yard pitch on a short par four.
And obviously there's a big difference between being able to get to the green and not being
able to get to the green.
And on the par fives, there's a big difference between being able to get to the green and
not being able to get the green. And his point was like on the
long par fours are just not as big of a difference between 150 and 160. And so out here it's
like there's going to be a couple par fives that are right on the edge. Bryson's obviously
going to be able to get to all of those. And there's a couple like you read Kerry Hegg
stuff, you see the 14th hole. It's like there's a couple, was it four and eight that I think
14 and eight or 14 and eight. Sorry that can both play
drivable and I just that's like a pretty obvious kind of like way to put it but when he
distilled all that down I was like, oh that actually makes a lot more sense as to why quail is different than some of the other like
Bombers paradises because eight from the back tee is not drivable for everybody. It's 346
Yeah, that's not as the crow flies, but like Bryce Bryce posted on his Instagram, he drove it in the front bunker in the practice room.
Favorite type of short par four.
Well, yeah. Yeah. But I still think he's gonna gain a shitload in because it is like, literally,
I don't think I came across a hole today. I'm like, guys might try to hit three with
here. Like it's just every single hole is going to be hit the driver. And again,
the stats were going through huge penalty for missing huge. Like it's,
he doesn't miss a lot of grass. Yeah. He doesn't miss. Yeah. Uh, TC.
Who's going to win Rory. God, I hope so.
I'm going with the, uh, the guy whose name is on the door.
Rory McIlroy country club. This is very much divided.
This is very much.
I picked Bryson the one and done,
but I actually do feel like Rory is,
maybe just because I'm seeing more of him,
but I mean, gotta go with history here.
It just feels like a really comfy spot.
Well, and it's, the conditions remind me
of when Rory used to win majors.
Sloppy way.
Congressional or. He had some good quotes about that too. I don't know if you read that, but he was talking about that exact thing I mean, I'm hitting it high and landing them, you know, soft. He's like, now he's like, I kind of think pinehurst like obviously fit me as well. And he's like, it's
what we say in the podcast all the time. But I don't think he lost that skill.
Either. I think the, uh, yeah, it sounded like they, they all kind of tied one on last
night at the, at the champions dinner. I think Mr. Harris opened up the, uh, the seller.
I also saw some Rory quotes about how he was enjoying
Del Frisco's steakhouse back in 2010,
the first time he played here.
It was like 21.
I thought that was a pretty interesting quote
about just local establishments and such.
But no, I think Rory, just like,
I think they're gonna have to do Live Clean in Place
tomorrow. You're pro Live Clean in Place for tomorrow. No, I like you love what clean
I would say don't do it
But I think I have to think they're gonna like they're gonna be bullied into it by the by the players
Okay
I'm gonna if you've gone this far into pleasing the players like I don't think they're gonna stop it with clean in place
I honestly I think it mud ball making a mud ball day tomorrow would make it less entertaining
God that's music man. It would not be fun
That was an interesting take I saw the everything I got from TC speed needs to go on steroids
Oh, I'll struggle back to that later. All right interesting couch divide here. All right, I think we're all fishing in the same pond though
Yeah, which is like everybody forgot about fire because their styles are none of us pick Scotty, which is not to win.
Scotty right now is a first really first time seeing the place.
There it is. First pick not to win. Scotty's plus 400 to giraffe play by
Rory's plus 450 Bryson's plus 700. And then there's a golf between them.
Rom is plus 1800 Xander plus 2200 and JT plus 2000 right now. So who's your pick
not to win? Not to win? Um, I'll go Rom. I'm with I'm on Rom as well. It's kind of like
a safe bailout. Like the opposite of a giraffe there. Plus 1800 doesn't have to be a giraffe.
It's like I was going to say Rom too, but now I'm I'll say more Kawa. I actually both
I'll do both of them if you think that's not drafting enough. I'll go wrong. Yeah
And Neiman I'll throw him I'll do a Randy. I'll just start throwing names in
No, Vax not gonna win
Bocce Russell Henley's not
I'll say also I don't think Xander's gonna win.
I don't think we're quite ready.
I don't think he's.
I'm not quite ready for you.
He's been mega trending and has played
so fucking good at this place.
Yeah, but I think he's just not quite all the way back.
I think Xander's a block for top.
I almost told me that as a dip.
I just think he needs a little bit more time.
I think, we've kind of said this at, you know,
Pinehurst and now Augusta, but it's like,
we've been so dying since like Tiger and Phil really for just like, man, what's the like head to head
in golf? Maybe it'll be Scotty and Rory. Maybe it'll be Jordan and JT. I mean, it's Bryson and Rory
and it might be again this week, which is awesome. I tell you who I think is going to play really well
this week. Keegan. I hope so. I think Keegan and Cantlay both play really well this week. Keegan. I hope so. I think Keegan and Cantlay both played really
well this week. Cantlay feels like it. Is there a course that like has more of a horse
for course like reputation? Like this might be like the. Yeah. I have to go back to my
guy Ron. He does the predictive stuff. He has a whole documentation of what the most
predictive courses are. I can probably get you an answer there if you guys want to
beat around the horse a little bit. It kind of sounds like we need to just have Ron on the line.
What's your fan duel play of the week, Dej?
Good question. A lot of directions I could go.
I kind of liked I liked my plays.
You know what? TC is going to piss you the hell off.
I know that. But I'm going to take a Rasmus.
That doesn't hold me. Rasmus Hoygard is the top Scandinavian, which that's a good
interest Scandinavian is Nordic. I believe is how it's listed, but he's plus 800 to
basically beat Ludwig. I think in that he's just five Danes in the field right now.
Mad Danes. I'm hearing Rasmus near guard Peterson. Can you confirm we're going to get this bed on the line? You get Rasmus. I get Rasmus Hoygard. You get all other Rasmus, Neergaard, Peterson. Can you confirm we're going to get this bet on the line?
We're going to do the bet.
You get Rasmus.
I get Rasmus Hoyegaard.
You get all other Rasmuses.
All current and future Rasmuses.
For the next 20 years, whoever wins the most majors.
Okay.
Wow.
He gets all of them though.
That's the big guns are the field.
You want to get in on that?
No, I'll set one out.
But I do have a Rasmus play that I'll piggyback off you. It's kind of calling it the unstable compound play. Min Wu Lee and Rasmus
Hoegard top 20 parlay. The odds have gone down. When I put this in yesterday, it was plus 21.80,
which is like you move in markets, both of those plus 1500 odds, of course, are subject
to change, but top 20, I may have been top 20 or top 20 with ties might be the difference
there.
So we'll take the top 20 with ties, like plus 1400 ish.
I feel like both those guys, yeah.
Then who, if he like he's on your list of guys that hit it 180 ball speed, hit it really
high.
You're almost betting on form.
Gosh.
And Rasmus, you know, you're taking him as form. He played well at Augusta. I think that's a fun one. That'd
be a massive indictment of Quail Hollow if Minwu Lee goes nuts. Well, that's how I've
a noted noted Minwu. I had Minwu Lee in big tone. Not a lot of thought. Like he can just
wail on it. It's more punishing though than like Houston. Like it's, it's, it's harder
than Houston. Like he, he got away with murder Keep Houston's name out of your mouth. He got away
with murder out there TC. That was a tough tough watch. If you want to have some fun. You can chase
these plays and many more on the uh NLU specials tab. And this is coming from the group you know
yours truly who got that round one closest to the pin. It's always late with JT in his group. Well, you and I were both on Keith Mitchell, first round leader.
I'm ready. It's he's plus 7,500 for first round leader.
No, it's not. It's not a plus.
Dude, you guys move the line. We're just talking about the line.
Mitchell. Yeah. Yes. He's he's a number four on the handle
and the percentage of bets for first round leader.
Let's we let's just do it. Let's do it.
He looks so, so clean today.
He had a pop collar, white polo,
with these like white cap.
It's a PGA Tour stop.
Like it's a PGA Tour,
he's got the best scoring average
of opening rounds.
Don't have to worry about Sunday.
He's averaging 67 in opening rounds on the PGA Tour,
better than Tiger did in the year 2000.
Like give me Keith Mitchell,
first round leader plus 6,000 all day.
He's kind of, he's very high, I think,
if memory serves.
He's very high on that stroke, came off the tee. Oh yeah, he's very high on that, uh, strokes gained off the T. Yeah.
Oh yeah. That's his whole game.
Fifth and strokes came off the T on the PJ tour right now for a place that was
like driving, driving, driving, great.
To marry your take to see not great restaurants around here for the game.
No distractions. Exactly. Exactly.
That's just a fun, a total flyer here. Uh,
because another guy that I feel has played really well in early rounds this year, bogey free first round from Colin Morikawa. Plus 1300 with our guy,
Joe Griner. That's what I'm saying. I thought, I thought it was in place. I just feel like
that's got legs. I'm not saying he's going to be the lowest, but I could see him just
steering his rig around here and not getting in too much trouble our four-man parlay was Cory Connors
Mav McNeely
Colin Warikawa Tommy Fleetwood Tommy in there all for top 20 no
You want to show a statement on Tommy this week? Yeah, I don't think he's gonna win. We're not doing it
You absolved yours, but you we all celebrated on the preview because right? Oh, this is the no no we also said like
We all celebrated on the preview because we're like, oh, this is the week. No, no, we also said like, it's not going to be on our team.
We call this morning.
We said like, yeah, guys, I just don't want to do the Tommy thing.
Like, well, it might not be a Tommy thing.
If Tommy wins this major when it's soaked, it's on a PGA Tour.
This is like everybody's going to it's like the Jimmy Walker Baltis roll thing.
And everybody's going to say, no, like that doesn't count as a major.
What would that mean? It's gonna derail your entire thesis if
he wins. I don't think you've even grasped how would you have the online if that was to happen.
Calling this a signature event. Exactly. But we still gotta get a PGP. You gotta be pumped out.
Imagine TC having to jump an American flight to come back up here on Sunday.
It's an easy one. It's only like an hour and 10 minutes. What else you got?
I got HG and Xander. I got HG top 20 Xander top 10. I got team Rose top English J day
top Oceania plus 2700.
Nationality plays are fire.
They set up a make miscut thing for blocky, which I loved.
Which is what the I'm telling you, people. I think Garrett Higgo might wreck your rig on that one. I think great golf got great flow.
I think he's going to be a great player.
I think he's going to be a great player.
I think he's going to be a great player.
I think he's going to be a great player.
I think he's going to be a great player.
I think he's going to be a great player.
I think he's going to be a great player.
I think he's going to be a great player.
I think he's going to be a great player.
I think he's going to be a great player.
I think he's going to be a great player.
I think he's going to be a great player. I think he's going to be a great player. I think he's going parlaying the pools. Yeah, exactly. So I didn't think about it. I'm telling you, people.
Garrett Higgo might wreck your rig on that one.
I think great golf got great flow.
That's true.
Ball speed.
Yeah, ball speed.
The ass.
Was he on the list?
No, he wasn't.
He was not.
He hits it hard.
He was not.
Might not hit high, though.
The Champions' Dinner was, of course, last night.
No Brooks Kepka.
Just not showing up.
Those plays are on the NLU tab on the. Neil, I really liked your Keith Mitchell I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
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I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm to go the champions dinner in town. Like just a disgrace.
Yeah. You know, he just it's like, I don't know, it's always something with team smash.
Like, yeah, I just don't. Yeah, I don't know.
Well, nobody asked me, you know, nobody asked me to play.
So I just, yeah, I played alone.
Yeah. Fucking problem with that.
But I don't I don't practice. It wasn't even practice.
I was just out there fucking the course. Yeah.
Oh, I don't get that. I don't practice. It wouldn't even practice. I was just out there fucking the course. Yeah. Uh, I don't get that. I don't, I don't know.
We had Rory is officially committed to the Australian open for the next two
years. Royal Melbourne must credit TC this year and Kingston Heath next year.
God, I love that. Big development there. Um, exciting news.
I'll be coming at the, the, it was, sorry, that's late December, January, December,
second week in December. Okay. Also awesome. Come at the, the, it w sorry. That's late December, January, December, second week in December. Okay.
Also awesome come at the expense of like Dubai or anything.
Also quotes about it. It was like, yeah, I've seen the names on that trophy.
And like that, that, you know, that's the kind of history I want to be part of.
Yeah. Wanted back in 13, 13.
Damn, even better that he's going back. Yeah. Um,
in other news, Damon Lynch had a call this week as well about President Donald Trump
went to Saudi Arabia.
Tiger Woods, this is from the article, is Tiger Woods, a director on the TOR's policy
board, was dispatched to the White House late last week to ensure the president would be
on message in Riyadh, the message being that any deal between the tour and the
Kingdom's public investment fund will be on the tours, preferred terms, those terms
will not include a long-term future for Liv. Can you imagine, Ty, you're trying to
keep someone on message, Mr. President, I just think it's really important.
That's what we can't, we can't. I mentioned it, I already mentioned it. We already
talked about it. As you know, in the report that the strategic sports group sent around,
these are the numbers we're comfortable with.
Just to tie up a loose end here, Michael Block to make the cut plus 320.
Plus 320 to make the cut. Would not worth rooting for that.
Would not advise.
God, the Saudi stuff is, I mean, talk about something going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going
to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going
to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going
to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going
to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm sorry. This thing is costing me $5 billion. You want me to give it up? So hold on. What is it? It's a team thing. Yeah.
It's an interesting angle. It's like it'd be like hard to follow, but it's a
shotgun start, but they're coming in at the end. Seems like it'd be weird.
I thought about trying golf out. It just takes too long. How many people are
watching on the app? Well, they could wear shorts, but now they can't wear
shorts anymore. That's how they feel about range fighters.
We also had some one and done picks from the guys that are not here. Uh,
KVV is also on the Bryson train, uh, with us. He's sticking his neck out.
That's why they call him the giraffe. Uh, and rainy's on Ludwig this week. Um,
so even if Ludwig wins, Hey, the one and done, the ground's getting a little,
a little shallow. Yeah. God, I would have loved to take JT Aurora. Can't do it. Uh, Randy had, had a Shane Lowry last week.
That could have been a close hit, but I have to do it after,
after this week, I might do a little analysis on the one and done.
See where it's pretty easy to analyze.
I don't know if anybody's hit yet.
I need Scotty.
Nobody's hit.
I thought somebody it's hard.
It's very hard to hit a one.
You know what?
I hit Rory at Augusta.
Also, none of us picked it.
It's just really tough except it's just really
tough this week no I'm talking about the side the winners draft we did not the
one and done oh wow that's a whole confused the audience and then we've
and then we've got the other the ten-year thing that we're doing yeah
that's not going great for any of you guys.
Who's Bryson?
Anybody?
Oh, you do.
Bryson, who did that take?
Brooks and Rom?
Because I took Bex back.
I don't even know who's on my squad.
Hey, bomber wise, we haven't talked at all about Victor.
It's got Matt Wolfe.
Is Victor kind of a sleeper here?
Well, TC, that would have been great to talk about in the part of the show that was between
four and five.
We are at five o'clock and this is the end of our happy hour. We want to thank platform
sports for having us out here. And if you are in the Charlotte area, you can join us
again here tomorrow around 7pm conclusion to play the first round. This whole patio
hopefully will be filled through. Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of charlatans. We got a lot
a lot of fun. We got some souvenirs for people. We're gonna be taking some questions. We're
gonna have a great time recapping day one of the first major of the year, second major
of the year.
TC emptied the merch tent today. He's got so many hats to pass out to people. The really,
really good hats.
Wearing his favorite right now.
Yeah. And I got a lot of Charlotte takes to get out. I think all I'll say is that I think
it's interesting that people, it's all anybody wants to talk about right now is
It's a major week like we talked about this on our on our non golf podcast last week
It's crazy the real ones know the trap draws in a golf but that's been my favorite just suspending for a second
There's so many people in the comments, but no to like the LinkedIn guy or no's good stuff. Roe back. A lot of Easter eggs.
They're really, really good.
Just a bunch of multi print deep cut logos that we, that we came up with.
We honestly, we rocked them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Some stuff, honestly, great job on that one.
This one we get a great job on.
If you have one of those things, eat it.
I'm going to go with the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, logos that we came up with. We rocked them. Yeah. Some stuff honestly, Roback rocked them.
We did a great job on that one.
This one we did a great job on.
If you have one of those things, email Neil, he'll get you a refund.
Get what? One of those things.
Not many, but a couple.
I would have thought that.
No, more so like, I wouldn't wear that.
I'm going to wear this one.
Store.nolega.
It's so clean. It's so crisp.
Yeah.
All right. Well, thank you to everyone at Platform Sports.
Thank you to Fandl.
Thank you to Roback.
And we'll see everyone here in person tomorrow night.
Thank you for tuning in to Happy Hour.
Cannot wait for Major Championship Golf starting tomorrow.
Cheers, crack on.
Cheers. Good dress rehearsal.
Thank you. That was great.
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