No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1007: Saturday at the PGA Championship

Episode Date: May 18, 2025

Scottie Scheffler leads the 2025 PGA Championship by three going into the final round. Is it Noren's time? Poston? Can Jon Rahm climb all the way from five back and get his third Major Championship? J...oin us as we break down all of the day's events at Quail Hollow. We run down the leaderboard, check in on some odds, Randy leads the Thrills and Delights segment, and more. Presented by High Noon. Support our sponsors: High Noon - Sun's Up! FanDuel The Travelers Championship Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf PGA Champ mystery box: go to subscribe.nolayingup.com/pga-2025 for all the details Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Be the right club. Be the right club today. Better than most! Expect anything different? Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the NoLaying Up live show, the No Lying Up podcast. My name is DJ joined by my friends and associates, Solly Sollenberger. Solly, hello, how are you? Buzzin'. Buzzin' after that first sip of that high noon iced tea. Buzzin' after a nice day of golf, man. That was a delightful, pleasant day of golf, and I'm buzzin' to be able to talk about it with you guys tonight. It was a nice day of golf. A lot of guys playing good golf out there. Big Randy, how was, how was your day, my man? Oh man,
Starting point is 00:01:09 big day today for me. Um, yeah, for, for God, this is horrible, horrible live show. Cause I'm not going to tell him why it was a big day yet, but, uh, got back, watched some golf, and yeah, you know, fun day. Good to see Scotty drop the clutch, put it in gear, start running away from some of these clowns. But I test, baby. You drop the clutch and put it in gear there, right? Right out of the gates. I love it.
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Starting point is 00:03:56 That's going to usually get it done even if you don't make some putts, which he also did. Eagle at 14 takes the outright lead, I believe, for the first time. That one forced Bryce in the back off on 17, just kind of a cool moment and a cool visual of why that corner of the property is so cool. Comes right after that, birdie's 15, the par 5, hits it to 12 feet on 16, the hole that nobody can make birdie on. Just barely misses that one. Then he makes just the sixth birdie of the day on 17, the par 3 pours in like a 20 footer there and then gets to 18 out of a divot, hits it inside 10 feet. There's no fucking way that putt was missing. That was right in the dead center. Seven birdies and an eagle to take the lead at the PGA championship. Solly, what stood out to you most about Scott Scheffler today?
Starting point is 00:04:41 Well, you just went through it, but I'm'm just gonna run through the final six, ten, fifteen shots that that Scotty played as to whether or not they gained or lost shots to the field. Alright you ready? Gain, gain, gain, gain, gain, gain, gain, gain, gain, lost. He missed the putt on 16 after you know it was barely a loss and then he hold it. Gain gain, gain gain gain. Like just an absolute clinic. It's not sexy. It's not how Tiger used to do it, but it's the best fucking golf we're going to see. It's not the flair.
Starting point is 00:05:18 It's not the flair. It's not the flair. It's not the energy. It kind of is though. It is. It honestly is. It's not the, you know, energies. Golf kind of is though. It is. It honestly is. It's not the, you know, it doesn't inspire the crowd. It doesn't inspire everybody watching at home to run to a TV.
Starting point is 00:05:30 You got to see what Scottie's doing. But the golf is at that level. And you know, I'm sitting here wondering if I'm regretting. I'm beating myself up a little bit, regretting not picking him to win this. I don't think I regret it. I still feel pretty confident in the thesis. I'll just say that was the hardest coil has played all week is the most demanding it's played. I don't care what the
Starting point is 00:05:50 scoring average says. You can move tees around, move pins around, and in fact scoring greatly but the questions that were asked of guys over the course of five hours moving the tee times into threesomes, that was by far the most demanding. The fastest the greens have been, most difficult the shots around the greens have been, and he just obliterated it. He answered every question you could have imagined. I go back to that shot into 16. It was a draw-lie, right pin, right to left slope, right of that. Like we just saw Siwoo Kim dump it into that bunker, trying to hit a 7-iron back there, and he hits a 7-iron from 199, went off the right and a little bit in. It's kind of like, man, is he jamming seven iron back over that
Starting point is 00:06:27 slope landed in the exact perfect spot? Didn't as the one hole he didn't birdie, but that was just, we watched him hit the ball in the water there on Thursday. And just to answer with the new swing field that he was talking about and hit that shot, man, you just got to tip your cap. It might be a boring Sunday. I, I, I'm maybe in the minority where I, I don't hate that. I really greatly enjoy when somebody plays this, this level of golf. That totally agree. Randy, your, your response.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Yeah. Uh, cosine. Topic. You know, it was fun to see Scotty showing some emotion there coming down the stretch, a few little fist bumps. You could tell he was jacked up. He was into it. He said as much to Amanda after his round.
Starting point is 00:07:12 He was like, for me, that was showing emotion. That was good. I just go back to that tee shot on 14, which led to the eagle. I mean, he was playing well and it felt like he was gonna be in it, but man, his ability to just put it in another gear and hit shots down the stretch. I mean, Solly ran through him gaining on the field, but just like class, class, class.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And I had been lamenting, you know, some of our big name stars, their performances through the first two rounds. I'm with you, like, I don't mind if this is just a Scotty clinic and he runs away with it tomorrow. I was so impressed with that performance from 14 in. It just is true, like tip your cap.
Starting point is 00:08:03 And that's it. I feel like like that's about as good as it gets on in pro golf at the moment. So I feel like yeah this day could have gone so many different ways. Like I was so impressed with Jonathan Vegas hanging in there. I'm like is Matthew Pavon really gonna like post eight under? have Alex Noren I know we'll get into all these guys but then yeah over the course of like what an hour hour and a half it just becomes like oh no this is Scotty like it's it's always been Scotty so I don't know tough tough to see him giving it up tomorrow I guess we'll get there as well but man what
Starting point is 00:08:42 a performance. Stay tuned to the end of the show. We'll see if we're picking him or not. I'll just say, you're joking? I'll just go quick. I'll say, it's not like a guaranteed guarantee that he's going to win tomorrow. I think he will, but I don't think we should fully dismiss
Starting point is 00:09:00 that tonight. Please continue. If anybody wants to pick someone else, please. Now is a good time. Would love to hear it. But yeah, I'm with you. Especially, it takes a lot of like eye rolls for all the green mile, getting hit over the head many, many times
Starting point is 00:09:16 with a hammer with that moniker. But 16, 17, 18 is no joke. It can happen. It can slip away. It is a tough place to close. I just, you kind of get the sense, Randy, to what you're saying is like, you know, I gotta imagine our guy's gonna be about four or five up by that time tomorrow. And so if not more, so we'll see. But it is funny. Like two things came to mind while you're talking, Randy. One, there was so much stuff going on. Ram's up there, Bryson's up there, you know, all of a sudden, you know, it looks like we might get this heavyweight duel. And
Starting point is 00:09:50 then as people kind of started to separate a little bit, I had a distinct moment this afternoon where I was like, man, like, no offense to anybody. These guys are all really good players. But like, there's two guys chipping cross handed here. Like, you think these guys are gonna fucking beat Scotty? Like, come on. What? Like, let's just skip to the end here.
Starting point is 00:10:09 What's, you know, we all know how this is going to go. And then the second thing is I was listening to the show last night and Neil, I think rightfully so, was talking about Spieth as like a momentum golfer, right, just somebody who kind of gets out and rolls and needs that positive mojo to sustain and kind of flip into that other gear. I kind of think Scottie's the same way, honestly, because that stretch of four, five, six holes that we saw today, we've seen him do that a number of times. We saw him do it with the players. We saw him do it at the Olympics. He's kind of the only guy that we've seen get in that mode other than, I mean, Xander had a little bit of that last year.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Bryson maybe kind of sorta can get in that mode, and Rory obviously. But it's like, outside of that, man, there's not that many guys that look like that. And you could kind of sense Scotty, you know, he always talks, everybody always talks about how great his mind is and how patient he is and, and all of these superpowers that he has where he he's just kind of in the mud with everybody just waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting until he finally hits that air pocket and is just like, okay, man, now I'm flipping the switch. I have all the shots that I've been waiting for all week. I'm going to hit all the irons exactly in the spot I'm looking for. I'm going to hit the middle of every fairway and I'm probably gonna make half the putts
Starting point is 00:11:26 and nobody else really has a chance. And that's just how that back nine felt. And to both of you guys' point, like when he's on full song like that, I mean, it's just really freaking fun to watch. So I'm excited for tomorrow. And that's where it, I don't know, it's a weird, the discourse like around the golf course this week gives you this weird push-pull where for part of the day today it was like, oh, so you guys were
Starting point is 00:11:50 so wrong about Quail, look at this incredible leaderboard. And it was like, ah, I mean really like- By the wind. There hasn't really been, well, I mean before the day settled, it was kind of like there hasn't been that full opportunity for somebody to like, the test didn't get hard enough for somebody to really go out and separate and then like the way that wind blew, especially on the last like 12 holes or so, it was it was the most demanding the golf could have been. And it was like, good luck, Johnny Vegas, I'm sorry, like beating Scottie Scheffler in conditions like that. Like, he
Starting point is 00:12:19 wants it to be a slog tomorrow. He wants it to be as wet as it was Thursday, as calm as it was Thursday. Like that's his best chance to go run down Scottie Scheffler tomorrow, right. And for me, it's just like, I want to go and appreciate like somebody standing up to the challenge the golf course is giving you more so than, you know, I really want an exciting leaderboard, which is not what everybody wants. But it's kind of led to this weird conversation around like kind of what people want out of a major. But I'm like, yeah, again, I go back like that. That's kind of what I want. That the less exciting the leaderboard got at the very end in terms of being close to it, the better I felt like this, the more I felt like this was a major. Does that make any sense? It does. It does. And I think once
Starting point is 00:13:00 Scottie kind of kicks into that gear too, you also, you know, the thing about Scottie is when you watch him, you realize like, oh, he's probably not going to be stuck at two majors forever. Like he could get to four or five or six or seven or eight or 10 or, you know, who knows? And when you look at it like that, it's like you look back on Tigers stuff and getting to 15 is like, man, they weren't all, they weren't all bangers, you know, some of them are just kind of, you know, get me over and he suffocated the field like Scottie's doing now. And, and he won over, you know, Bob May and Sean McKeel and some of those guys. And so they weren't all the Sergio at Medina or on a broken leg or, you know, whatever. So I think from a resume padding,
Starting point is 00:13:43 that one was rock immediate also, by the way. Yeah, exactly. And so I think from from that perspective, it's like, well, for you know, maybe Scotty just needs to pad the stats here. And it doesn't need to be too much more than that. But what else anything else on Scotty before we before we move on I mentioned, I mean, just leading off the T and leading off, you know, leading strokes gain approaches is rare air. That's a double you don't see very often. And it's just, it felt that way.
Starting point is 00:14:12 It's like almost one of those where you know it before you look up the stats, right? But by like significant margins too, I think that's what is like, makes you say like, whoa, he next best off the T strokes game today was Mav McNeely. He was not quite 0.7. So seven tenths of a stroke total behind Scotty and then approaching the green.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Scotty was up like almost 0.8 on the next best guy, Max Grazerman. So yeah, when I think Scotty hit 13 to 14 fairways, it just was. Yeah. It was kind of just like, he's looking around like, oh, y'all, I'm gonna take this. Like, I guess this is my major. Randy, where do you wanna go next? Who do you wanna go next? Who's inspiring you next? Well, I don't know if we gotta go
Starting point is 00:15:02 just down the leaderboard. Spell out the leaderboard here and then you can go wherever you want. How about that? Alex Noren will be in the final group at minus eight I did not have that on my bingo card Alex Norton and Scottie Scheffler in the final round of a 2025 major here for it. Love Alex Noren. Sorry. What's your Noren take? I know the podcast for a long time. It goes to show like one of one of the best calls I've ever had you guys have managed to flip around to me being wrong tomorrow. Yeah, listen, in case you were not a listener to this podcast in 2016. When I pointed out how much of a OWGR manipulator Alex Norton was, and he was ranked eighth in the world,
Starting point is 00:15:49 it proceeded to immediately fall in the rankings shortly after that and proved me exactly right. Validated by when we met Alex Norton at Visby and Taurusauce in 2022, when I told him about this and he said, Sali, you're exactly right. Alex gets so excited when he sees me at tournaments now. He runs up, says hello, like we couldn't have a better relationship now. So it's like one of the great dubs I've ever recorded and still in our slack. It's just nothing but wow. Noren's in your ass again. So your guys commitment to this. I'm so impressed.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I hope this gentleman's listening, but when we're at the Phoenix Open, there's a whole group of Minnesotans, I believe, or Canadians, just sitting in the front row right next to the T-box on 16 inside the amphitheater. It's just kind of a downtime between groups. They had the high ground. They had the high ground, and it was point blank rage. Guy just screams, yo, Solly, what's your Knoren take? It was great. I hope that guy's listening. Uh, it was core memory for me. That's why you gotta keep your taste. So like either he stinks, you know, it's gotta be just a quick, like quick, he's dead. He stinks, you know, you gotta keep it short. Well, hold
Starting point is 00:17:00 on. The math hasn't updated yet today. Otherwise I can't really explain it. Uh, ridiculous story of Alex Norton though. I mean he's played one competitive tournament in the last six months I think I saw something today that he was he was working on Working on baseball swings in his time off like learned about baseball. I'm paraphrasing this horribly as Seamsters listener Who was he working with? I'm sorry if I can look this up but just like one of the you know for better for worse for him like he's a one he's in the category guys that can go away for six months and we don't notice it or mention it like he just in a big group of players that can happen with in professional golf but to
Starting point is 00:17:38 come back and play this level of golf this quickly after he tore a tendon in his hamstring. And here it is, he's been coaching softball during rehab. And he said he's got some perspective in his career. He had 10% left in the tendon at the time that it was torn. And yeah, he's been working on baseball swings or something crazy like that. He's the best, none of the nicest guys. When we met him in Sweden, he was just talking about how he just wanted to get as many FedEx cut points as possible so he could take a bunch of time off and and chill at Visby for as much of the summer as he possibly could. Week 26 at Visby. If you can, you must go.
Starting point is 00:18:26 the last five very Scotty-esque including 17 and 18 as well. And just a just a freakish round of golf from him today too. I mean made it made a ton of putts but I don't I don't know I again this is kind of a no disrespect. I don't have a ton else to say on Norton. I hope he comes out and does it tomorrow. I still think about that sweatery war while we were interviewing him just one of the greatest sweaters I've ever seen in my entire life. What's the best thing about Norton? say on Noren. I hope he comes out and does it tomorrow. I still think about that sweatery war while we were interviewing him. Just one of the greatest sweaters I've ever seen in my
Starting point is 00:18:47 entire life. I would love to it's it's truly I think of this leaderboard. It's like, again, not what I was expecting to be saying on Thursday morning. But it's like, man, if it's not Scotty, I hope it's Alex Noren. That would be sick. You know, I found the tweet from was from Sean Zocchi coaches daughter softball team and he said he studied baseball players like Mookie Betts and even got some baseball swing lessons himself But hated the feeling of hit it anywhere, but the sweet spot It should be what golf is like but it's not anymore
Starting point is 00:19:18 What is this would you hit it off center of this bat it doesn't fly 300 yards hurts my hands I hate this Riley Davis, Davis Riley, JT Poston sharing third place. They will be out in the penultimate group at seven under 67 for Riley Davis today and 68 for JT Poston. JT Poston played, well, both of them, obviously, but JT had a nice finish to his round as well. Both, I feel like, are perfect avatars for just like Quail Hollow, you know? Like, if you're just gonna, like, take some dudes that personify Quail Hollow, those would be right near the top of my list.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And we mentioned John Rahm at T5, Sewoo Kim also T5 and Jonathan Vegas, who was playing in the last group, also at T5. Kind of a rocky start, not kind of, definitely a rocky start for Jonathan Vegas, Bogie in the first two and just hung in there until, you know, kind of leaked a little bit of oil coming in Bogie on the par five, 15th, after a gnarly little like toe hook.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Did you see how like he was set up to hit draws? He was like, it's being a baseball, like John Carlos Stanton or something. His foot's like two feet closed. And I'm like, again, like, is this guy gonna beat Scottie? Like, I don't, Scottie's got his own visual kind of things going on, but you know,
Starting point is 00:20:39 you can tell at least it's coming out of the middle of the club face every time. On the Rom note, I mean, best sign of life we've seen from him in a major in terms of not doing it too late to actually be in contention to win it since he's gone over to live, which fair or unfair, it's only the sixth major start since he's done so. But he was the Rom dude that I remember seeing a heck of a lot of back in 2023 today. I mean, Birdie's on 14, 15 and 16, stuffed it in there on 16. I think one of only two guys to birdie the 16th hole all
Starting point is 00:21:07 day for as good as at that point. And then, you know, Scotty and Noren and the big dick players came to Scotty did not bury it though. Oh, that's right. You're right. Actually, I don't think Lauren did either now that I say that. But he flipped. I'll give you the last word. He did. He did bogey 17. But 67 from him again in real golf conditions today was the the buoy resurfaced And I threatened last night to pass the nickname the buoy off to Bryson I think you know the sinking at the Green Mile, you know in that little creek bed
Starting point is 00:21:38 I we got it. We got to give it back to Rom I think it maybe that's something that can go back and forth, but that was premature of me, and I apologize. I missed Rom interviews, man. That was another big takeaway of mine today. I really enjoyed hearing him and Amanda and just some of his, it's nothing earth shattering. He's just, you know, he's just got such a good way with words, he's very well-spoken,
Starting point is 00:21:59 and him talking about, you know, just being very self-aware about how, you know, maybe I'm not always the the most gracious person on the golf course when things don't go my way. Even I could say like I got I got very very lucky today. Obviously, I forget what hole that was, 11? Just hit one off that guy's skull. Oh my god. So hard, it looked like he caught a mud ball or at least he kind of said mud ball after contact and it was big left very similar to the Scotty and Xander shots earlier in the week and just caught a guy's just brain
Starting point is 00:22:32 So hard I've never hit somebody's head that hard All the way to the other side of the green which I was like, oh must have hit his chair or something They kept going back to him and he's like got a rub at his head and the guy the guy would could have been better Spirits it was just very impressive all the way around. Oh the whole the whole thing and they kept going back to him and he's like, got a rub at his head and the guy, the guy could have been in better spirits. It was just very impressive all the way around. The whole thing. You had a good quote, he said his caddy, you know, he's like, he asked his caddy,
Starting point is 00:22:52 like, should I sign a glove or something? And Adam Hayes was like, I think you're gonna need more than that. That guy in the fucking job. He dapped him up, gave him the big bro hug, that was a nice moment. He had just a provocative couple minutes there from from Ram. But Porter tweeted this out. This is the caution flag I'd throw on a Ram
Starting point is 00:23:11 interview. He said, Ram quote, I mean hard to express how hungry I am. I'm hungry I may be for a major. About as hungry as anybody can be in the situation. Very happy to be in position again. Me going to live and playing worse in majors had nothing to do with where I was playing golf. My swing was simply not at the level it had to be for me to compete." And I really want to look at those last two sentences and put them up against each other and say, well, I mean, I mean, it could have been like, we don't know for sure, but it could have been why your swing wasn't in a position to compete because you're playing golf on a much less competitive circuit. Like it, it could have been. I wouldn't dismiss this that quickly. That's true. I don't know why. I give Ram the benefit of the
Starting point is 00:23:49 doubt. He's one of the few guys that I give the benefit of the doubt that I'm sure he was working his heart. I'm sure he was to your point is like, he's not playing the same golf courses and maybe he's not as sharp as he would have been if, you know, he's playing the same events running up to these majors as the other players. So I don't know, but I, I just don't get the sense that he is taking his foot off the gas as much as maybe some of the other guys, but I don't know. I mean, I just can't lay more Kawa, you know, Xander, like a lot of these guys over the past five years, I'm like, man, they've had similarly stinky runs at the majors where I don't know that it's just ultra conclusive data to say like this guy just cashing all his chips and ducked out.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I don't think it is either one conclusive data, but I think it is a credit to Rom of like you are one of the three or four best players in the world, most talented players in the world, like at any point, right? You're going to get held to a really, really, really high standard. And I don't think it has anything to do with him not working hard. I don't think Rom fits that bill at all. I do think it has at least something to do with him not feeling as comfortable in his own skin as he may have before this decision. Like, you know, I just don't, I don't, I think he knows he sold out. Like he basically admitted that himself. Like he's like, I have the, I made this decision for financial purposes is what
Starting point is 00:25:06 he has said. And I think that it got a lot of attention. He got way more criticism for this than anything he's ever done in his entire life. I think it would be ridiculous to assume that he can approach social situation and competitive situations in the exact same way as he did beforehand, right? I don't think it's been a positive development for him. I think that's, I think that's right. I think that's very fair, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Can I give you guys- It doesn't mean he's done either, also. I think this is a really good sign and I've been hoping for this because there's no fun in like Rom just kind of toiling around in the 20s and 30s in majors. Yeah, it was fun to see some juice out of him today. Can I flip you guys a couple stats here just to set the table and then we can decide where we want to go from there. But I'm going to call this section just bad news for the Chasers.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Okay. And I'll just kind of rattle off a couple. Hold on. Are these stats courtesy of our guy Big Randy Robles? A couple of them are. A couple of our second half of those are. The first were dug up by the Piehauski Sports Bureau. Is this along the same lines as like, oh, well, these two guys chip cross-handed here. That's probably not working in their favor. Which looks, you want to talk about conclusive data.
Starting point is 00:26:16 That looks pretty good right now. You see that one Fitz hit that should have been in the water on 14? Yeah. Okay. Davis, Riley, Riley Davis, zero top tens at majors. Alex Norrin, two career top tens at majors. Both of those are at the open. We're going to come back to that in a second here. JT Poston never had a top 20 at a major. Jonathan Vegas never had a top 20 at a major. This is his second made cut at a major in seven years. Seewa Kim, zero top tens at majors. Pavan, Matthew Pavan, one major top ten that was last year
Starting point is 00:26:51 at the 2024 US Open. Randy looks like he's just giving word. I was flabbergasted when I heard that on the broadcast. Completely flabbergasted that he played with Bryson. Here is a couple from your guy, Big Randy, from the Elias Sports Bureau. 13 of the last 14 PGA champs were leading or within two entering the final round.
Starting point is 00:27:15 That is, again, not bulletproof. JT came from seven back. But 13 of the last 14 have been within two shots. What is, I would say nobody's within two shots right now. So only four guys have come back since 1995, only four guys have come back that were three or more shots from behind. Rich Beeman 02, Padraig and 08, Kymer in 2010, JT in 2022. Along those lines, 34 of the last 35, Randy, 34 of the last 35 PGA champions were in the top five going into the final round. So, you know, for those of us hoping for a big round from the big golfer,
Starting point is 00:27:56 of course, that does give you a rom at T5, five back entering the final round but still not not great and I this one was good stuff only the only time Alex Noren has been in the top five of a major entering the final round I think was the 2008 Open Championship that's a really long time ago and that's just that's wild. What was his best finish in major? Did he finish like T6, I want to say, like the 2016? Yeah, there's two different opens. I think it was that time in 08. I think I had to apologize for that back in 2016 if I remember right.
Starting point is 00:28:36 And then of course the one that will get thrown around a lot tomorrow, I'm sure, but is pretty foolproof. Do you know how many times Scottie's had the 54 hole lead at a major? Twice twice one of them both One of them where were those those were I can look that oh, no, I think those were at Augusta Yeah He's got two chances. He's be he's slammed the door both times. So I will see. But I think, God, it feels pretty open and shut.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I'm sorry to do this, Dej. I'm sorry to beat a dead horse on this one. But I think on... Beat around the bush. On Monday, on Wednesday, Thursday, and I think last night even, we said the same thing, which is like, look, Quail, probably not for us. It's kind of is what it is. What's almost certainly going to happen is there are going to be some big names on the leaderboard. Everyone's gonna be like, see, it's an amazing major venue. And like all the worst people in the world
Starting point is 00:29:30 try to do that to me today. And then we end this day with the list that you just went through of who's actually in the top 10 of this one. So like, yeah, I mean, like, come on. Not only is this not produced like a great leaderboard, maybe it isn't the best major venue that we could possibly have. I kind of feel like we have pretty solid evidence to support that
Starting point is 00:29:48 at this point. But the early victory lap, I did not, I should have seen coming, but did not see coming. And yeah, it kind of inverted itself before the end of the day. Tough with Bryson's finish because it looked like it was going to be pretty good there for a second. I mean, look, I go back to, you know, I was talking about the Tiger majors and, you know, not all those were bangers. Sometimes at Valhalla, all you need is him walking and pointing in the putt, you know? Like you just, you get a couple moments. Nobody's going to remember Thursday, Friday slogs at this place.
Starting point is 00:30:16 It's kind of just going to be about what happens on the last The Green Mile trademark tomorrow. So we'll see, Sali. We'll see. We'll see. I do want to give a shout out. There's another. The Northeast One PGA Tour Signature Event is coming up. That is, of course, the 2025 Travelers. You're not even going to believe what happened at this event last time, but if you remember, Scottie Scheffler broke away from a loaded leaderboard with three straight birdies
Starting point is 00:30:41 in the back nine in the final round. It led to a dramatic one-hole playoff with Tom Kim. It won him his sixth PGA Tour victory of the year. Will Scotty repeat as champion? You can come watch as the world's best PGA Tour players tried to dethrone him, all of them competing all four days at TPC River Highlands. It begins June 19th and runs through June 22nd. For tickets and information, visit TravelersChampionship.com to see the grades. Cody's got his TC hat on.
Starting point is 00:31:09 The grades include Scotty Shafflett, Roy McElroy, Xander Schauffley, Ludwig Oberg and all the rest. The Travelers Championship, there is only one. Traveler slaps man. It pretty much slaps every single year. It's great. Great. Can't wait to watch. Randy, let's start over you. Let's do some thrills and delights, some thrills and deals. What did you have from today that we haven't touched on? Yeah, listen, this thing going to be like,
Starting point is 00:31:35 you don't need to print these out and hang them in my presidential library someday. But besides being chuffed for my guy, Norrin, who's going to enjoy the shit out of VSB later this summer. Here's what we got. I'm going to start with Trevor Immelman. I loved his little insights on Siwoo Kim today. It was like everyone both thrilled and delighted me. The first one that I really picked up on, both thrilled and delighted me. The first one that I really picked up on, God, I forget what hole it was, but Siwoo was, he essentially played a very difficult layup,
Starting point is 00:32:12 which our guy Scott Feigley would say you never should do. And Immelman was just like, yeah, this guy, he is, he just never hits the easy shot. And later in the day, it was like, man, nobody drinks more Red Bulls and coffee than Siwoo Kim. Like I just loved each little insight that he had about Siwoo I thought was extremely additive and both thrilled and delighted me.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I think he was on golf subpar, I believe, with Colt and Drew and he was talking about how much, just the sheer amount of caffeine he drinks. What was it? So it was like at least four or five coffees a day or three coffees in like three or four Red Bulls, I think. And he was talking about how one round he was like a little too up. So he was also taking Advil PM. That's right. Advil PM and Red Bull. No shot at CWU. But again, I was like like I don't know if the guy that's like mixing Red Bull and Advil PM on the golf course is like
Starting point is 00:33:08 going to beat Scotty maybe we'll see but it just doesn't see who the guy that was smoking heaters to earlier this week. Yeah well that is getting older and stressed. The rules either great stories about Siwoo. I know. I think I'm totally in on Siwoo.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Yeah, I know. And he's another one that it's like, you know, we say this all the time, but it's like these guys, even the interesting guys, like, don't really get interesting in the public eye until they start winning stuff, right? And so you kind of just,
Starting point is 00:33:40 you got that players win so early and we're so far removed from it now that we need him, we need him on the big stages as much as possible. Cause I do think he is a weirdly funny, fascinating guy. And I think last thing, see who I think he's got, uh, you know, no free ads, but I think my guy's got like a yeet.com absolutely does on his left chest. And I looked it up and I don't, I think yeet.com. Absolutely does. On his left
Starting point is 00:34:06 chest and I looked it up and I don't I think yeet.com is blocked. Uh maybe in the whole United States. I I could not access it. There's my guy Cody. Yeah. Um so who knows what yeet .com is? I yeet. I actually DJ sent me a podcast episode the other week and the host just
Starting point is 00:34:25 Came out with yeeted in the mill. Like yeet is just a word that tickles me That's really delights me. So crow Armstrong. Yeah, um What else today did I have on my T&D list? I the pin on eight? Normally, it'd be like boring. Nobody can make a putt, but it was like so confusing for the guys. I think Dottie was like, oh, they're going to miss, right? Nobody's been able to read this putt all day. Nobody can make a putt on eight.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I kind of think that's sick. That was thrilling and delighting me. I think Siwu, they were like, this putt's going right at the hole, Siwu's aimed right. Like not a chance in hell that's going in I jotted that one down Um, I got thrilled and delighted by the the what does CBS call their playing through feature? Course, I believe yeah, they missed cam. Davis's eagle. Uh, that was in the the eye on the course Jonathan vegas, I think either tied for the lead or, you know, right in it. Whole hooked his drive on 15. During
Starting point is 00:35:28 the eye on the course, what a worthless feature that is. I it is Randy, I got it. I got to pause you here just to say like that was the least commercial interrupted day of golf Saturday I can ever remember watching. I don't know what happened with the tee time pushing or what. All the sponsors pulled out when they saw the leaderboard. Nevermind, we're good. Why don't you guys just do the women's A.M. type coverage?
Starting point is 00:35:51 I think people would like that, go for it. That was one of the first times ever I had to take a pee break and I was like, when are they gonna show a commercial? I need to go, they went over 20 minutes at least at multiple points today without commercials. I'm confused as to how that happened. If you remembered four years ago,
Starting point is 00:36:03 we were fucking yelling at the TV during Phil Brooks, for how bad they butchered it. Like that was they came a long, long, long way. I just go to commercial. That's my thing. Just commercial, can those shots, set them up, show them to us, like we'll all be better for it. My last one, and I know this applies to a few gentlemen, I certainly Jonathan Vegas I believe Alex Norton would be the first Swedish man to win a major. Do I have that right?
Starting point is 00:36:32 Stenson Stenson, of course Stenson. Well, my guy Matthew Pavan when he was more in it I was like has a Frenchman wanted of course, we all remember Jean Vandeveld You got to go back to 1907 the open championship the Frenchman wanted. Of course, we all remember Jean Vandeveld. You gotta go back to 1907, the Open Championship. My guy, Arnaud Massey was the only Frenchman. I don't think you can do Duolingo for five years and
Starting point is 00:36:55 call him Arnaud. Arnaud! Come on. What's this? Arnaud? It's gotta be Arnaud, I would think, right? You tell me. What does the owl say to you? Well, I gotta think we're, you know, I'm broadcasting to a bunch of dumb Americans here. So, uh I I just thought it would be fun. I you know, he's not going to
Starting point is 00:37:15 win but Matthew Pavan snap in a what? 120 118 year major streak for his country. That would have been pretty cool. Man, I did not. I would have lost that bet for sure. I would have thought he was the first one. That's good. That's good insight.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Yeah. And guys, that's really all I had. It was, I did take it. I dozed quickly. It was a nice little nap. I actually, I missed Scotty shot on 14 and I woke up afterwards. Just gave it to us.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Making the eagle. Yeah. Oh, see, see. Yeah. We did you. Is this a fever dream I had? Or did you act? Did you fall asleep during the blocky mania and wake up right?
Starting point is 00:38:00 Is the whole one. This is the whole one. Yeah. Yeah. I miss this whole one. That was a chase sapphire shot of the day. Yeah. I remember you telling that story of just like, wake it up and see everybody's celebrating and not sure if it was real or not. Uh, that's yeah, that really makes me laugh. I almost wanted to carve out time to just talk more about blocky's
Starting point is 00:38:22 quote yesterday, but I don't think we need to, we don't need to really go into that. I heard you guys talking about there's no way that was like, that had to be mass in on the joke, right? He has to be. I'm worried about my guy. You got a chance to bounce back next week. That's true. And he is no bit Schwab. That's right. Every day leads to the next. I dare fandled off for me a miscut shot on blocking.
Starting point is 00:38:49 You cleaned up on that one two years ago. Moving down the board, just a hair, the playing captain Keegan Bradley with just a really nice three under today to move into the top 10. How you gonna do this with Big Tone? How you gonna do Keegan and Big Tone? Threatened until he got a little too close to the Sun and then recused himself per-use. So he was putting from close range for
Starting point is 00:39:15 birdie on 15 and I was like oh Big Tone just shot the leaderboard there's no fucking way this is going in and it didn't go in and I was like oh my god I turned into DJ is he right on this one? Matthew Pavan and Matt Fitzpatrick also a T8 along with our guy the big golfer Bryson DeChambeau. I was saying all kinds of stuff to Neil today when Bryson was tied for the lead. I was trying to offer him buyouts on our Bryson versus the field bet. So what, what'd you think, man? I, I thought we were going two for two there. I thought we were too, um, we got a little cocky, maybe, you know, maybe, maybe, uh, maybe Leon leaded that one a little bit on our private. Just trying to grow the
Starting point is 00:39:55 game, man. Private communications and, uh, acting like he'd already won it. He proceeded to go bogey double unbelievably bad shot on 17. Like the water was essentially not in play today. I think there was three balls in the water all day. Tom cam of course. He tried to hit nine iron, which I know is, you know, his irons are all messed up, whatever, but inexcusable to miss that ball in the water and make double.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I mean, he just hits that in the middle of the green. He's sitting there. What is, what would he be? Seven under par, four back. Like that's within striking range. Yeah, you're in it. Yeah, and I mean the bogey on 16 is what it is, but that was just, yeah, that was tough.
Starting point is 00:40:33 It was like, I mean, yeah, gap wedge, I know it was a gap wedge from the side hill, and that's a hard one to put close, but yeah, gosh. I thought we had it, man. I was right there with you. I don't regret I don't regret the pick because it almost like played out he just he hasn't played that great honestly it was almost just like his floor is so high on a golf course like this that he was just gonna be in the mix we just need to wait for him to get hot he didn't hit a couple good iron shots he just has
Starting point is 00:41:00 not struck the irons well which was a risk coming into it but he is negative strokes game with his with his iron play this week continues to putt it great obviously drives the shit out of it he's second off the tee 11th and putting just hasn't been able to do anything in between him hitting that nine iron into 17 and just coming up woefully short and just being so far off on the distance had a friend of ours texting and we were talking about it and like it's just i'm sure Bryson could explain this in a way that would make sense because obviously he's thought about this but i can't i can't wrap my head around and neither could our friend the idea of having 14 clubs or 13 clubs with butter and having what the nine iron went good 190 yards was 196 what they were saying the yardage having what is that eight clubs that go over 200 yards and and leaving five clubs that don't go 200 yards like how do you the fuck do you divide that up man and they're all the same length it's just like man are we are you are we 100% sure 100% sure that we're not outsmarting ourselves. Have we
Starting point is 00:42:07 double check the data? What happened to the irons that were supposed to auto correct and go straight that he had the Masters last year? I don't know if I think it was still playing but they're not working. It just like wasn't even close to the right distance. No he was left of it too. It it was 187 to the flag and it landed 172 into the water, which that's just an excusable miss if you want to try to try to win major championships. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:42:33 If it's just like finer, you know, if it's like half irons, if it's another wedge, if it's I don't know what you would do. But God, it just seems like there would be something non-traditional if you're hitting the ball that far. I don't know. Like, when is he hitting a six iron? When is he hitting a seven iron? Like, he probably never hits those clubs. Well, a lot of people don't talk about this. But a little known fact about is that they're all of his irons are the same length. So that's just that I don't know if he gets confused on some of that stuff. But it's it's something that, you know, is under reported probably in the game. but it's something that is under-reported, probably, in the game.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Eric, you should text our friends at the Elias Sports Bureau about that. I got that. Sorry, I got that, actually, from Randy via email earlier. We do have a quote from Bryson on 17. He said, I hit a great nine iron exactly the way I wanted to. The wind just pumped it. Nothing I can do.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Wind flipped from being neutral off the right, like it was on four, I believe, and was just almost straight in. We misjudged it. Considering on 16, we thought it was going to play almost a little downwind. So listen, in that... Yeah, you needed me and Randy out there gauging the wind. We're killer at that. But that shot, almost like notwithstanding, it's... I don't know. I'm not trying to pick apart that one exactly. But it is kind of emblematic of just a larger problem of how the hell do you divide up five clubs over that big of a distance, man? Like that's got to be
Starting point is 00:43:53 incredibly hard, especially when you're going at it as hard as he is. He does it's not like he's hitting a ton doesn't look like have finesse shots. I know, obviously has those shots. He's a very, very, very good golfer. It's just, I don't know. It seems, it seems tough to dial in. And I think we're reminded of that every now and again, but. Yeah, no final point. I know we've kind of talked about this,
Starting point is 00:44:18 but in such a copycat sport, you know, if anybody like truly finds an edge somewhere, you can expect everybody to mimic it, copy it and just nobody's going to the single length irons throughout the bag. I just think like, you know, not even trying to be like glib, but if like it was the way more people would do it. Yeah. Here, here. Uh I don't know that we need to go a ton down the leaderboard. Uh it's it's pretty bleak scenes if we're being if we're being super honest. I I wanna mention Rory didn't have a great day. Uh just kind of uh a bit of a punctuation mark on kind of a blah week for him. Seventy-four, sixty-nine, seventy-two today. Can can I mention just a couple a couple things
Starting point is 00:45:07 here in honor of TC they did a drive by on Joe Highsmith I don't know if you guys saw this when he was on 18 he's in the right trees and they they show I don't know if they showed him all day until this point and he's a lefty like when they do this he's behind a tree in the rough and a lot of this guy and well they get to it and I'm like, oh my gosh, he must be hit like an incredible recovery shot here, which didn't even look possible because it's really hard to hook the ball
Starting point is 00:45:32 out of rough that thick. Again, lefty trying to draw it left to right to get up to that green. And it just goes directly into the creek. Like the creek was the only thing stopping it. Like, or else it would have just kept going. And they even show the ball like tumbling down the waterfall of the creek.
Starting point is 00:45:46 One of the worst decisions I've ever seen in major championship golf for somebody playing for dollars and points. I did not under... I didn't get to see much else of his day. He had only other bogey was on the first hole. He did manage to salvage bogey and shoot 69, but that was a very funny drive-by on him. Well, listen, I don't want to drive by here, but we got to call balls and strikes. Not a good day for our guy Max.
Starting point is 00:46:09 No, that was a bummer. That's what I was going to say. Playing alongside Scottie, 76 today. What did he have? Four bogeys and a double offset by a birdie at number eight, which I believe was the first greenie hit all day. He did not have it out of the gates. Was scrambling his face off to even make it
Starting point is 00:46:27 that good. I don't know, man. I think flashes of it yesterday with the 64, obviously, and it's probably one of those things when you're making changes that it's here today, gone tomorrow. But that's gonna be the next challenge. I'm not saying anything groundbreaking there, but it's just stringing four days together is
Starting point is 00:46:46 is a struggle for players who do have it all together. And I can't imagine what a struggle it is for somebody who's who's still probably knows they're not all the way there. You know, and so just a major bummer for him. No pun intended there, I suppose. But the he yeah, it seemed like he had a chance to to keep rolling on a golf course that he has won at before. Probably has, you know, probably trying to regain some vibes and some form and just bottle it up for two more days and did not have it today.
Starting point is 00:47:14 So hopefully a good day tomorrow and cash a big check and take the positives away, but quite a forgettable one otherwise. Not going to go down the whole list of everyone we played staying or leaving last night. I think we did pretty good. I think we were pretty on the mark with some of them, but Ryan Gerard, one over 72, Ryan Fox, one over 72 going backwards.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Cam Smith shot one under today, but he's now T17. Just some names that we've seen a lot of Rio, Hitsasuni was like way up on the leaderboard at one point. He got it all the way to minus six and then he bogeyed 11, 13, 16 and 17 coming in on the back nine to fall back to minus two. Taylor Pendrith, ball speed imposter has fallen back to T23. Mav shot 200 today, he's climbing the board. He's there T23.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Alex Smalley, he fell off the pace, shot two over. JJ Spahn won over. Robert McIntyre, two over today. Neiman shot even, David Pood shot 300 today, shot the board up to T23. Hovland sitting there, T31, he was one over, just kind of meh. Not a lot going on at the bottom of the board today in terms of guys that were around the cut line that had especially good days.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Mostly guys on the opposite side of the golf course today went backwards, unfortunately. You said Cam Smith at T17, Cam Davis. That really threw me off. That is what I meant. Whoa! Apologies. He missed the cut.
Starting point is 00:48:38 He missed the cut very badly. Apologies. Yes, thank you for that. Tommy, Tommy didn't have it either. Just want to call that out. God, this was his week too. Yeah. Was it 76 today? That's, that's not good. Thor Bjornsson plus three. He shot 74 and yeah, he fell back to T 31. Aaron Rye, the calculator, uh, 74 as well. Um, syntax error.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Well Andy shot a 76 that's TC would need us to mention that. I forgot Bryson was playing next to Blandy too. I was weirdly emotionally invested in Bryson just picking him this week. We're in North Carolina, maybe sprinkling the board with some legal betting down there. Of course course he rinses it on 17. They show the slow motion replay of him standing on the tee, watching the ball, and Richard Bland comes in from out of frame. I'm like, all right. All of his clique scares. Playing with the great man, Richard Bland.
Starting point is 00:49:36 It's just, yeah, weird, weird day. It's all like Tom Kim, 75. I don't know if you want to apologize for that today. Another major come and gone for global superstar. No, I won't know if you want to apologize for that today another major come and gone for global superstar. No, I won't apologize at all for that. The only thing TC wanted us to mention was that the luxury boxes were pretty empty down the stretch. He's not here because he's flying to Charlotte. He had a couple more things that he wanted to say to those people, so he's going back. Guys, I wanted to do a little tiny bit. We don't have to linger on this, but a little bit of follow up on the Rory
Starting point is 00:50:10 driver stuff. The PGA of America put out a statement today that was from Kerry Hagg. I'm very much paraphrasing, but please correct me if I get anything wrong. It was essentially we test about the USGA, I should say, comes in and tests about a third of the field. It is totally random and results are not made public out of deference to the player. You know, the organization's basically assuming no ill will. Saul, do you have the statement pulled up?
Starting point is 00:50:38 Yeah, I've got, I'll pick it up about halfway through. Finding driver heads that have crept over the line of conformance is not an unusual occurrence, especially for clubs that are hit thousands of times over a long period of time. The results are kept confidential to protect players who are unaware the club has fallen out of conformance and are not responsible for it falling out of conformance other than hitting the club thousands of times. Players are
Starting point is 00:51:00 simply asked to change heads if necessary and all do without issue to publicly identify players whose club did not conform can lead to that player being questioned unnecessarily. Neither the USGA nor the PGA of America have any concerns about player intent. So I want to say a couple of things up front that I'm guessing you guys both agree with as well. Number one, I don't think anybody assumes ill intent by Rory here. I think this is a very, very common thing. Zander was notoriously popped for this. Real quick, if you're not a follower of what this actually means, that in theory, the more you hit a ball, the thinner the face can get,
Starting point is 00:51:38 and I believe it's less characteristic time, like less time the ball spends on the club face, can help you in theory launch it farther. Michael came out a tweet out there to say it's approximately half a yard. Like that's the kind of level of variance that we're looking at for a driver that creeps over the line for characteristic time. Yes, exactly. So what I was going to say is that this is a very common thing, as was said in the release. I don't think that any player out there is like intentionally gaming a
Starting point is 00:52:09 face that could crack theoretically at any time you know I think there's there's a lot of assumptions of what am I trying to say there's a lot there's very very very few nefarious assumptions I think I don't think this calls Roy's wins into question. I don't think this like, you know, necessarily is is some big scourge on the competitive integrity of professional golf. But I also don't think it's nothing. And I think it's very emblematic of a bunch of other kind of weird issues in pro golf. So I guess maybe I'll pause there. Randy, what do do you think is this is this like an actual issue? Is this a media issue?
Starting point is 00:52:48 Is this something you care about not care about what do you how what are your thoughts? Um, I Want to care about it Because it's not nothing. I mean they took his driver out of his hands and he's had to play a new one and He hasn't hit it particularly well. So causation correlation, you know, I don't know, but it feels like it's at least something. We mentioned, uh, Brendan Porath was the one who said it, like, if, if you're going to stand up all these betting markets, this is information that I think should be, uh, dispersed to the public This is information that I think should be dispersed to the public in a timely manner.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Um, with, with that regard, I think where I net out though is even if it's not like a huge deal, Michael Kim saying maybe like a half a yard, which, you know, that's not really a big deal. In my opinion, it feels like why don't we just do blanket testing at least at every major early in the week, if not like every week on tour. I don't know. It just feels really weird. And I guess I would net out seeking wanting more transparency, right? Of just, you know, tell us if somebody's got to put in a new driver. Um, you know, like you said, we're not going to call into question his character and his past performances, but I do think it's worth like noting for the public. I don't know. Do you guys know? I just thought of this. What do they do after it fails the test? Do they take the driver head? Because like what would stop, after you've been tested. Melt it down.
Starting point is 00:54:27 What would stop somebody from just, oh yeah, no, this is the new one. No, I'm gonna change it. Yeah, I'll change it, but they're not gonna test it again. And then player, he said out loud, the players are not responsible for the non-conformance of the club,
Starting point is 00:54:39 which was super weird part of this. I don't know. Yeah, I don't like the wording there. Those are the two things that bother me the most is one, the players not having to bear any responsibility for this is like, I'm not expecting them to all travel with their own CT machine. But if it's out there and they're doing testing every week, like, I don't think it's that crazy to have your agent or your caddy or someone be responsible for getting your driver tested every week. I think that's, that's pretty fair. And I think it kind of goes along with, you know, learning the rules.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Like it just feels very similar to me where like these players have to call rules officially and every time somebody needs to drop off a car path or every time somebody needs to check, is this actually a sprinkler or not? And the, I don't know, just the, the throw up your hands. I can't possibly make this call. I'm not responsible for anything other than just hitting fucking bombs is kind of that's super lame, I think. And I cannot get down with that. And the second thing is kind of what you're saying too, is like, what's to
Starting point is 00:55:37 stop somebody? Again, you're right, it's just a half a yard. And maybe it's it's microscopic, but what's to stop somebody from just making it until they get caught? What is the downside? You bear no responsibility. There is no punishment. Just keep pushing it until you get caught. That doesn't seem like a good way to go about it either. It's not a big deal. I know it is probably more of a media thing than anything else, but it's just weird. It leaves kind of a weird taste in my mouth, I think. If it's not a big deal, why do you even test it then?
Starting point is 00:56:09 Right. Is also kind of where I'm at. That is a great point. Yeah. So, and I really, I mean, again, some was made of like, why does Roy, Roy didn't speak on the issue, why does Roy need to speak on the issue?
Starting point is 00:56:22 I don't know, man, there's probably like six pretty easy questions. I'd love to get some answers to like when was the last time it was tested? Is this the driver you had in play at the Masters? Was it tested at the Masters? When, you know, how far over the limit were you? Has this happened before? Did this contribute to you?
Starting point is 00:56:38 Did you have trouble finding a new head? Did this contribute to you driving poorly this week? What did you love about that old driver? Like all extremely fair game questions as we all handicap and try to figure out who's going to win the next majors. And we're all like supposed to have all of this interest in it. Just being told like it's a non-story and then we're not going to speak on it is also just another weird frustration of this weird thing going on of like, what
Starting point is 00:57:01 does anybody owe the media is just kind of, I don't know, it's just giving me the, give me the ick asick as the kids would say. Well, I think we, yeah, we kind of breezed over that part and obviously anybody who follows, you know, followed the tournament closely probably knows this already but Roy's the greatest driver of the golf ball in the history of mankind and he's won here four times and suddenly like can't hit a fairway this week,
Starting point is 00:57:24 has these weird-ass left pulls And it's just like I don't know just not think things that make you go, huh? Yeah, just not being able to at least it's not a nefarious thing It's just asking him like hey, man was was the new driver an issue this week Is that what happened or did you just were you gripping the steering wheel too tight? Were you too comfortable? Were you too comfortable? Were you not comfortable enough? Like I think it's how to get out that he yeah and I think when he like it I
Starting point is 00:57:51 think when people treat it as like a it's not the same as like a personal you know like there's a lot of like don't ask me about that. That's part of my personal life. I don't want to talk about that. He shouldn't have to answer questions about that. All of which I largely agree with. But man, this is just like competitive golf stuff. It's like, man, if we can't ask about this stuff, like, why? What are we even supposed to ask about? What are we supposed to even like kind of
Starting point is 00:58:15 care about it at some point? It's just like, all right, I guess you guys will just, we'll just watch the leaderboard and tell me who wins. And we'll just talk about how awesome they are. You know, it's just a very, I don't know. It's just a very, a very weird one to me, but Cody's reminding us of the story. I forgot about this as well, that, uh, that there was an Uber that was paid a thousand dollars to transport one of Roy's drivers from Palm beach, uh, to
Starting point is 00:58:39 her, to Bay Hill. And then he went on to win the masters with it shortly after that. Yeah. So I don't know. I just would love some context. So I don't know if Rory talked today or not, but that's just a weird kind of nagging question that seems pretty fair. with the investment in pro golf, like pro golf needs to catch up with some of the other sports with just how they handle communicating issues like this to the media. You know, the drug suspensions, the player discipline, stuff like, like, come on, we either wanna be like a major sports entertainment entity
Starting point is 00:59:24 or you wanna be like the old time tour of independent contractors. And I just feel like those two things are at odds here a little bit. Yes, indeed. Anything else on that? I'd say speaking of the betting markets, why don't we, you want to take a look at those?
Starting point is 00:59:41 Yes, please, let's do it. I am refreshing, making sure I have the most of the day odds. You do that. I'll get us there. How about that? All odds here are, of course, courtesy of the Fandl Sportsbook, the official sportsbook of No Laying Up.
Starting point is 00:59:54 We have our specials have been live on Fandl.com all week under that header, No Laying Up specials as well. Checking in on any bets that we have open still. It's not great, guys, I'm not gonna lie. I was loving that top Nordic. I just didn't see Nord in my model. That's why you got to do the work, Randy. You got to treat all these Excel rows. They all got to be independent of each other. You can't just look at Ludwig and Victor. You got to put in the time. Yeah. Neil's hole in one bet already hit, uh, Max for a top 20 still alive for you. DJ, you were the one, you were the definitely, uh, the best of the group.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Uh, you also had a bet of Scotty Rory, Bryson and Xander. One of those guys to win at minus one 26. People are asking me how brave, you know, I could be so brave. Uh, I missed that one. Uh, that was a good one. I like, I love. I like that one. I missed that one. That was a good one. I loved to have been on that one. I mean, especially the majors, man. It's just, it's big dogs only.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Big dogs and Andrew Pavon, Matthew Pavon. Well, big dogs only that win. Well, who knows? We'll see. We can clip that tomorrow. Pavon Nation can clip that in Pavon Trackers. Pavon Trackers is to be all over you. I'm going to put that out tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:01:07 This is, I am just receiving word here. Scottie Schaeffler is the betting favorite going into tomorrow with a three shot lead. He is at minus 450. These odds, of course, Randy, subject to change. He is at minus 450. Alex Noren next best at plus 1800. That's quite a gap there.
Starting point is 01:01:26 It seems the bookmakers feel similarly about Scotty's chances to us. John Rom, plus 2200. Bryson, plus 3000. JT Poston, plus 3000. Riley Davis, Davis Riley, plus 3500. Siwoo Kim, plus 5500. Those are the only guys inside of plus 10,000. Anything stand out? Is that is any? Can you sell me on any of these? Randy, sell me this pen? What do you got? No, no, I'm not gonna sell you that I would if Cody toggles over to top X finish. I just want to draw people's
Starting point is 01:02:00 attention that right now you'd have to wager $20,000 in a hundred on Scotty finishing in the top five, which is incredible. The amount of confidence that this, this line represents in Scotty, not just throwing up a stinker tomorrow. Can I, can I sell you on something Deidre? I can try. Yeah, hit me. Let's say Scottie has a
Starting point is 01:02:26 freak incident tomorrow that leads to a triple bogey. All right just a freak incident on the front nine. And John. I think you're gonna say that leads to an arrest. Could be that too and John Rom is is two back. Otherwise the only people in front of John Rom are JT Poston, Davis, Riley, Riley Davis and Alex Norton. people in front of John Rom or JT Poston, Davis, Riley, Riley Davis, and Alex Noren. That's the only thing. A freak accident and three guys that I think Rom has no problem zooming past tomorrow at plus 2200. You can talk me into that. That's a pretty, that's a bleak timeline, but I like where your head is at. Like it looked, you know, plan for the worst type of situation there.
Starting point is 01:03:04 A good day from Rom is gonna pass Noren, Riley, and post them no matter what they do, is one. And if we get a good day from Rom, plus a freak accident from Scotty, I just don't know if the freak accident's out there at Quill Hollow, but you know, just, I don't know, you can convince me. Cody, do me a favor, go to the two balls tab and scroll all the way down to the bottom.
Starting point is 01:03:28 I'm going to just rattle these off. I need you guys to pick your heads up bets for tomorrow. OK, Scotty Scheffler or Alex Noren? I mean, are we factoring in the odds of these or are we just playing golf? No, no, no. Just shout them out. Someone's going to want to parlay all of them. Gotta be Scheffler. I'm gonna take Scott. JT Poston or Davis Riley, Riley Davis. Poston. Sure. Siwoo or John Rahm? Rahm.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Rahm. Uh Keegan or Jonathan Vegas? Keegan. Tomorrow feels like Vegas is like seventy-nine. Man, you guys are you guys are, you guys are all together. I like it. You haven't broken yet. Big one house divided here. Ready? Your guy, big tone or the big golfer, Bryson DeChambeau. I actually could see big tone shooting like a 69 never being in it. Taking a top 10, you know, he kind of maybe some value there big plus 180 you could heads up against Bryson it's that's that's so disrespectful those odds like Bryson and that one all right Pavan or Fitz these are fun I need to do more of these these are the two cross-handers, right? Yeah, exactly. They're gonna go twisted up. They're not gonna
Starting point is 01:04:46 know which way is up. Uh but god, Sully was calling him Corey Pavon. No, somebody, somebody, somebody tweeted that uh they said they're they're watching TV with their dad and their dad goes, man, it's been so long since I've seen that's what happens man you get old and time flattens out uh Corey Pavin has not played a major 15 years he's been playing for like 15 years and he's been playing for like 15 years and he's been playing for like 15 years and he's been playing for like 15 years and he's been playing for
Starting point is 01:05:21 like 15 years and he's been happens when you get old and time flattens out. Corey Pavin has not played a major in 15 years. It would appear he played the PGA Championship only in 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010, and also played the US Open in 06 for those keepers core at home. Not had a top 10 in a major since 1999 PGA. the that would be. Can you imagine? I'm rooting for the guy now. Can you imagine sitting on a couch and watching watching Scottie, watching Scottie Scheffler play and thinking Corey Pavin is like going hand to hand trying to take the time out. You have to be like, this is the story of for Edward and Gold. Why is he in the field? Uh. Can I? Why is he doing what Tom Watson couldn't? Uh. Can I, can I shout out one more tweet from today?
Starting point is 01:06:26 Please. If we're ever. That logo that's on Jonathan Vegas's hat. I was how is that not a live logo one? Tommy Tom replied and said it's the Fireball City Connect logo. That's a good one. Oh, man. That was for the Seabsters.
Starting point is 01:06:44 But that is it's going to be like some sort of grill logo or something. That's a good one. Oh, man. That's for the Siebsters. But that is it's gonna be like some sort of grill logo or something. That fucking rocks me. All right, let's do let's do just say three, four more, four more. Matt Wallace or Adam Scott. Scott, I'd be honest, wasn't sure Matt Wallace was in the field. It might be a Scott by default. Don't think I've seen one shot. Garrick Higgo or your boy Joe Highsmith, sorry.
Starting point is 01:07:10 I'm gonna go with Highsmith. That was a good round other than the 18th hole. Yeah, I've had a little lefties. I'll take Highsmith. I like it. Cam Davis, not to be confused with Cam Smith, or Lucas Glover? Lucas Glover. Veteran. I like Cam Davis. Denny McCarthy or the hottest player in the world Ryan Gerrard? My guy Denny. I'm gonna stick with Denny. And actually one more Ryan Fox or Max Grazerman. They locked this one there must be too much to add. Oh wow yeah they did. Take it off the board. T.C.'s hammering Foxy.
Starting point is 01:07:44 I'll take Foxy. That's uh I might just get deep in these head to head bets going forward. Spice spice up tomorrow a little bit. Uh those of course brought to you by our friends at the FanDuel Sportsbook. Odd subject to change. I believe we we've mentioned that. Uh do we wanna do how far back is too far back? Do we wanna do any any other picks I mean it's it's Scotty right is this does anybody want to say anything else yeah as much as I would love to go contrary and I just I'm not seeing it it I think Scott he's gonna win I'm not hedge I'm not like fully convinced that it's
Starting point is 01:08:23 night completely night night even though I tweeted the night night from C.Woo. I don't know. There's a lot of there's a lot of golf to be played. Like it's got to get have a really bad day tomorrow. I don't know. Let me ask you this. What does what number gets you into a playoff? Because I think that might be the more interesting.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Like what do some of these guys have to go out and fire? because I think that might be the more interesting. Like what do some of these guys have to go out and fire? I think it's interesting if Bryson shoots 400 tomorrow. Like Scottie's, I know Scottie's got to shoot 72. That's not, again we're counting. I feel like you got to get to double digits to like feel like you have a chance. In all likelihood but yeah. Yeah I think that's right big. I? In all likelihood. But yeah. Yeah. I think that's I think that's right, Big. I don't know, man. I feel like the switch was the switch was kind of thrown today. I just don't I don't see him coming up and barfing all
Starting point is 01:09:16 over himself tomorrow or even shooting. I don't really see him shooting over par. Rory doubled the first hole the Masters. That that was Rory doubled the first hole of the Masters. That was Rory. He does shit like that all the time. Scottie...what has Scottie...he four-putted the last hole that one Masters. Freaked out. So Scottie has gone out in 33 every round this week. I'm just going to say if our guy goes out in 33 tomorrow, that's night.
Starting point is 01:09:49 I think that's night night. I think the strongest case you can make a very quick count, but it looks like 17 or 18 guys shot under par today, which is still, you know, it still takes a very, very good round to do that. So maybe I should back off and say there's no way shoots over par, but I don't know, it still takes a very, very good round to do that. So maybe I should back off and say there's no way shoots over par. But I don't know, man, he just seeing what I saw today
Starting point is 01:10:11 and like he just, if he's gonna drive it like that, you know, he's gonna hit his irons well, and he's gonna make a couple pots, like it's just gonna take it's gonna take something pretty freakish, which I guess is out there, the fives are reachable, a couple short fours, maybe they move, I don't know why they would move the par threes up and try to let anybody catch. I think Scottie Scheffler's probably
Starting point is 01:10:29 their preferred champion, but who knows. Just getting word Scottie's final round scoring average this year. Yeah. 68.117 is the best in the world. It's really good, it's really good. It could happen, you're right, you're right. But in the interest of prognostication, if I had to put my chips somewhere, I don't
Starting point is 01:10:48 think it's going to. I'm trying to see if that what it was. Like it'll be fun to watch Rom early in the round tomorrow. I think he's got to be, you know, foot on the gas. Gotta hang some early birdies up there to give Scotty something to think about. Yeah. I just think it'd be different to you, Saul, if it was like a, I don't know, if it was an open, for sure. You know, there's a bunch of weird variables or if it was even like honestly, even the Masters and he slammed the door at both of those. But it's like even the Masters is a place where it's like, Oh, I don't know, it could happen. And there's so many different weird things. Like this just feels pretty straightforward.
Starting point is 01:11:26 If you make a mistake here, you make bogey. Like you just don't, it's hard to make doubles, honestly. So yeah, you're almost certainly right. I mean, I certainly think he's gonna win. I think there just might be a moment tomorrow where we say, oh, I don't know, I don't know. Almost certainly. That I agree with for sure.
Starting point is 01:11:43 But well guys, there you have it I think that's round three of the PJ championship Speak now or forever hold your peace if you if you have anything else you want to read into the record I just had Brooks getting heckled by the fan that that clip came out today That was yesterday somebody said guaranteed money will do that to you Brooks He waited like five seconds blank kind of a war and take situation He waited five seconds before he challenged the fan to come down there and say it to him.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Which I just found that quite quite delightful considering four years ago, Brooks was giving away free beer to anybody that got kicked out for heckling Bryson, uh, essentially encouraging folks to be heckling Bryson during actual PGA tour events four years ago. Remember that one? Yeah. So that one. Uh so that one that one just caught me a little uh just didn't want to let that one slip by. Think about what that guy's dad has missed out on. Thinking Corey
Starting point is 01:12:32 Pat like there's so much **** like that that guy's dad just his mind would melt. When you see the jungle bird at Olympic Club. Yeah. You know, there's Jeffler got arrested last year. Like there's so much shit going on. see the jungle bird at Olympic Club? Yeah. You know, there's Jeffler got arrested last year.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Like there's so much shit this guy. What do you hear about this L.I.V. tour? Yeah. Oh my God. Oh, God. Good stuff, guys. Let's let's have a fun day tomorrow. So I think you're right.
Starting point is 01:13:03 We're going to live for those couple of moments tomorrow where we're you know, maybe the the Outcome will feel a little more uncertain But hey if we if we get through the end and it's a boring Scottie Scheffler victory I still think that's a great day to be a golf fan is kind of my stance. Yep we talked about what it would mean for Scottie to get into the three major club and all that tomorrow when we get there but like You know it it's an interesting story if he blows it and it's an interesting story if he goes out and stomps on people's necks As well, it might not be like the most exciting TV watch of all time, but it doesn't mean it's not an extremely interesting
Starting point is 01:13:38 Development and I mean it kicks off the conversation for the career Grand Slam It would be very very unlikely to happen before the end of this year but like who knows you could snag one of the last two as well and then we're sitting right there on three and uh on the precipice of it that does not feel outrageous at all. So I think either I mean we kind of said this coming in too but you almost add Scotty to the mix even though we were very weirdly quiet on him after a week where he won by eight, kind of like maybe should have saw that coming. Craig James though threw us off. I don't, I don't, I don't forget that. Or did it. Maybe not that dissimilar. But what I was going to say is just think of everything
Starting point is 01:14:17 we were saying about Rory coming out of the Masters. Oh my God, he might win all four. Think about everything we're gonna be feeling about Bryson, like he shows up every single time. And now add Scottie at what looks like kind of the, maybe not the peak of his powers, but very, very, very good going into a golf course like Oakmont, where all three of them should play really well again.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Like it just, you know. It's a great major year. Builds the rest of the year. It thickens the stew a little bit for Oakmont and Royal Port Rush, which should both be great. So, guys, thanks for being with me. Thanks to Cody for running the ones and the two. Shout out to Jordan behind the scenes running some social stuff.
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