No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1015: U.S. Women's Open Check-In

Episode Date: June 1, 2025

Maja Stark (-7) is your 54-hole leader at the 2025 USWO at Erin Hills. Julia Lopez Ramirez sits one back at -6. Join us as we run down the leaderboard, discuss Nelly Korda's (-4) round, play HFBITFB, bring in D.J. for some on-the-grounds reporting, and more! Support our sponsors: Titleist - #1 Ball in Golf Visit store.nolayingup.com for our new Levelwear items. Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

the right club today. Better than most. Better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome into the No Laying Up podcast. It's a wrap on day three at the US Women's Open out at Aaron Hills. Kind of we had a spicy one to help me break it down.

Right now joining me, Cody McBride and Jordan Perez. We're gonna have pop-ins from DJ Piehowski who is out on site today. We got Tron Carter coming in later in the show. Let me start Cody, how are you? How did you enjoy the golf today? It was awesome. It took us two days, but we finally got to a spot where Erin Hills was able to show her teeth and it wasn't even like crazy windy. It's just, you know, really good

greens and awesome course with really good whole locations and it just completely threw a lot of these women. They were having fits big. It was crazy. I loved it all. I know. I know. I believe the scoring average today was just over 75 for a third round. And without, I mean, we were right on the cut number 60 women. It's not like we had a bunch of fluffers going on today. Wow. Slow moving for only 60, but we'll get to that later on. Yeah, we'll get to that. fluffers go. Wow. Slow moving for only 60 but we'll get to

that later on. Yeah, we'll get to that JP Jordan Perez. Welcome. How are you today? I'm wonderful. Honestly, this feels like a proper major championship and I could not be happier. We're putting people in a blender. We have a proper set

up out there. Guys, I just you know, it just feels good. We deserve this. Hell yeah. I totally am with you. Felt proper with a capital P today. Not, you know, first couple rounds, little easy for my liking, but today was good. So, Ben, you know something with the capital P, though? That's the Pro V1 Golf Ball. And this podcast is brought to you by Titleist and the number one ball in golf. That's the Pro V1 golf ball. The overwhelming majority of competitors at this year's US Women's Open are trusting the performance and consistency of a Titleist golf ball. A

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from being out on the course. He's probably our preeminent Aaron Hills fanatic has played at the most out of all of us. So I'll see what he thought of the course today. Real quick, if he didn't catch much of the golf, your top 10 going into the final round. Solo first, Maya Stark shot a 70 today. She sits at seven under par. In second place, Spain's Julia Lopez Ramirez. This is a great story, JP. I can't wait to dig into her day. She shot the round of the day with

a 68. Nobody else shot in the 60s. It was a super, super impressive round from her. She sits one back of Maya Stark in a tie for third. We have three Japanese women all at five under par Rio Takada who shot a 70, Hanako Shibuno who shot an even par 72 and then Mal Saigo who was our leader through 36 holes. She stumbled a bit today shot a 75 she's part of that triumvirate tied for third. Nelly Corda sits alone in sixth place for under par. She shot a 73 it wasn't going great for her for a while. She salvaged it coming in a lot to talk about there and then tied for seventh.

We have three women, Minji Lee, a former US Women's Open champion. She seems to be loitering. She shot a 71 today. Ling Grant shot a 73. She's there at three under and Sarah Schmelzel is also at three under. And then quickly a trio of women tied for 10th

just to round out the top 10. You have Spain's, or excuse me, Mexico's Gabby Lopez, China's Ronny Yin and Yalini Ngo who also struggled today with a 75. So there is your top 10. JP and Cody, Cody, I'll start with you though through 54 holes. What would you say is the story of the week so far? What do you think's the biggest news as we head into Sunday? I think TC is probably going to come in here a little bit later and talk a lot about the golf course and I think truly a lot of it has to do with the golf course. Basically, if you're, you know, contenders or pretenders, if you're a pretender that's out there, you're a little fluffer as we like to call, they've basically been ejected and only the serious players are kind of left here.

But is my stark. I mean, she came out, started this championship absolutely on fire, battled back in round two, had unfortunate event, didn't even get to finish her round last night, was kind of upset about that, you know, horn blue when she was on the 18th green, and desperately wanted to get it in, had to wake up early this morning, go out there and finish it up and then come out and battle today and you know to wander on a very very difficult golf course but bogey free on her on her second nine to include like played the proper shots when she needed to like was aggressive when she needed to be aggressive played you know just kind of plotted her way around. So I think he is the story for me, especially, you know, she hasn't won in the States yet. She has

won LPGA Tour win, you know, five or six others on the LET, but it's just one of those things where she is kind of, you know, it's more of a mental game than anything with Maya. So it's a big sleep. It's a long wait. It's going to be interesting to see. I thought to my eye, she was one of the few women out there that seemed to be taking the fight to Erin Hills a little bit. You know, I thought she was aggressive with her putting. I thought she was tried to be aggressive as possible with her ball striking. I don't know.

Just obviously she played well and she's leading, but I don't think that's an accident. I thought she was kind of on her front foot all day instead of many of these women we just saw kind of defensive and really tentative. And I was impressed, I guess more with her putting. I thought Maya was just, she was going after it today and I respect that. Should make for an interesting Sunday. JP, what is your story through the first 54 holes? was just, she was going after it today. And I respect that. Should make for an interesting Sunday. JP, what is your story through the first 54 holes?

I'm gonna let my ambias slash newly turned pro bias peak here just a little bit. I don't know if we wanna get into Julia Lopez, Ramirez fully just yet. But I think just this week that she's had, it's just been incredible. And I think in some ways, it's almost a little random, given the past year that she's had between overcoming,

removing her appendix, only making three out of seven cuts in her rookie year on the LPGA. And Thursday was her first bogey-free round as a professional. And so I just, a lot of things like about it don't really add up in terms of recency for her, but this is a great, great course fit for her. She kind of like going back to what you were saying,

big like similar to Maya, she really took it to Aaron Hills today and the past few days and it just played really fearlessly. And yeah, I seeing her card such a good round today today and the past few days and it's just played really fearlessly and yeah I seeing her card such a good round today and be just right in it right behind Maya at minus six I I'm thrilled I'm thrilled because I think it really helps validate her status as or was a number one player in the world so it's like kind of what you had down it It's a coming out party.

It's tremendous. And yeah, I don't know if I want to get full. There was a couple of cool nuggets I found about Julia and you know, some what she had been up to lately. And I think I don't know if we want to fully get into it. But that's my favorite story coming in. I'm in 54 holes. Let's we'll impact kind of the top of the board. So I'm going to have you bottle it for just a couple of minutes here. My story of the day, this looked better about 45 minutes ago. I thought it, I mean, Mal Sigo still has a really good opportunity to win the first two majors of this 2025 season, which I think is a very big deal. I think beyond that three Japanese women, we talked about it in our happy

hour, the rise of Japanese women, especially with their success on the LPGA tour. One of them has a very good shot to win, but I'm going to default to Nelly Korda. this is a big spot. We had questioned kind of how much grease and grind and, and how willing she is to really, you know, win a championship that where par is a very good number. And it was a seesaw day for her. She went out in 40, did not look good on the front nine. Didn't make a birdie, but then stayed in it,

birdie 14, birdie 15, birdied 18, and turned what, you know, could have been a 75, 76 today into a 73, and now she's solo six, will be the third to last group, and has a good chance to go hunt a US Women's Open tomorrow, which I think would be fantastic for golf at large and obviously a fantastic thing for Nellie, certainly to win this type of championship too, where her KPMG win, I believe she was 19 under par total,

the Chevron win, she was 13 under par. I want to see her win a very difficult proper setup. So Those are our big stories of the day guys Cody anything else? Let's let's just unpack the top of this board before we move on Maya Stark You mentioned hadn't been like the best season coming into this week. Like wasn't awful Is looking for a first win on American soil what I really like about Maya so into this week. Like, wasn't awful. Is looking for a first win on American soil. What I really like about Maya so far this week, her statistical profile is fabulous. She is, let me pull it up here.

Today, she gained over three and a half strokes with the putter. On the week, she is first in strokes gained approach at plus 2.37 strokes per round. She's 11th with the putter. She's just very solid. I mean, we are big fans of Maya, but I just feel like nothing fluky about this week so far, Cody. No, it's been very good. She's struggling this year with her ball striking of all things. So going through some changes, she's had a caddy change earlier this year with her ball striking of all things. So going through some changes, she's had a caddy change earlier this year and there's a lot of new for her.

So as she's continued to kind of fall into what the new swing feels are, it seems that this is the kind of the first time that we've seen her with confidence back, which is really good to see. I mean, it's very easy to compare her and Lynn and they kind of just go about things the same way. They both really like playing hard golf courses because they know that like half the field is

going to eject themselves and it you know she said in her post post-rom presser today like that kind of frees her up so if she continues to putt the way that she putted today I mean it seemed like she made everything and the long ones that like, you know, weren't necessarily going to go in. They were all tracking like directly at the hole. I was so impressed with how she held it together. Yeah. Yeah. Only woman to be under par all three rounds. She's gone 70, 69, 70. That's very impressive. I think too, just going back to, we had talked to her before last year's, or was it the Spain Solheim Cup? I guess it would have been the Spain Solheim Cup where she made her debut. She was very open about how much she loved that environment, that pressure. She was nervous to start, but I think the bigger the moment, she's

truly one of those people that wants to rise up. Like she has high expectations for herself. And so I don't think she'll be overcome playing in the final group on Sunday of the US Women's Open. I think she'll be very eager to get out there. It's going to be a fun spot to watch her and to see how she reacts and plays tomorrow. and to see how she reacts and plays tomorrow. JP, I think it's time for some Julia. Let me say Julia Lopez Ramirez takes. What do you have on her?

You mentioned former number one amateur in the world was a product of Mississippi State, turned pro early, got her card through qualifying series just this past winter. What else can you tell people about Julia? Yeah, Julia, she was a rifle number one in the world. She won eight times in college, won two back-to-back individual SEC titles, owns the top two scoring records for a season at Mississippi State, which is so cool.

Yeah, she's just an interesting person. I was kind of reading some of her quotes that she had from earlier in the week and someone had asked, they had asked her, you're one of the longest players on the LPGA already. What is it that allows you to generate so much power? And she said, honestly, I don't know how to answer that question. I've heard people say that.

Can you guys hear me? We can hear you. Yeah. Everybody through your AirPods. Sorry. I might've switched. It might've switched. Do you want me to finish that quote?

Please. All right. I'll finish that. I'll start from the beginning. Uh, she was asked, uh, how she was able to generate so much power as one of the longest players on the LPGA. And then she said, I don't know how to answer that question. I've heard people say that because I ride motorbikes,

my forms are strong and that's why I hit it far. People say it comes from my legs. I don't know. I've been hitting it far since I was a kid because I compete with my coach and I try to hit it as far as I can. And I think it just came with me. So I don't know. That's a new one for me. I haven't heard the riding motorbikes translating

into that, but that was awesome. I have not heard that either. You would not guess that she's one of the longest out there. And when I say the longest, just to put it in perspective, this week her driving distance ranks number one in the field. She's averaging about 291 yards off the tee, whereas the field average is just short of 251 yards. So she's she's got 40 yards on the field. That's quite long. Her strokes gained off the tee for the week. She ranks third at plus one point six, eight strokes.

And I mean, she's putting it well. She's ranked 14th and putting it's, it's a coming out party. And this is one where I'm like, I could see her being in it till the end tomorrow. And I also wouldn't be surprised if she shot 77, 78 tomorrow and slid down the leaderboard I truly have no idea what to expect JP. What are your expectations?

Honestly, I Know I think we're getting it through your AirPods. You didn't have. Yeah. You know, this mic is a little temperamental. Sometimes it really behaves and then sometimes it just wants to get back to the AirPods. I don't know, guys. Sorry about that. Honestly, guys, I see her hanging around. I really do. I was really impressed last year when we were over in St. Andrews and she hung around all weekend. I mean, Lottie took Loham and that was a kind of a foregone conclusion, but she hung around and made the cut and I didn't exactly expect that out of her just in terms of course fit. But this weekend,

I really can see her hanging around. She's got such a streak of confidence from the past few days. And I mean, in a lot of senses, I mean, she is an underdog. I mean, it's kind of interesting when we look at the top of this leaderboard, I kind of, I came to a conclusion like, you've either been like a dog lately, or you've just not been it whatsoever. Like, there's really no in between for anybody here. And I love that because there's just so many outcomes that could emerge from it. But Julia, I think Julia is a factor tomorrow. Absolutely. Let me be very clear. I hope she is a factor. It just, we've seen people in their first bite at a, at a U S open on the men's side and on the women's side. Sunday is just a different beast, but JP, I hope she's in it. She's fun to watch. I hope they move 15 up. I'm just thinking like with her distance between 14, 15, 18, the par five, like there could be some fireworks coming in,

depending on the setup tomorrow. As we get to the triumvirate of Japanese, maybe we can save some of this for TC. I got a question for you. Okay. She I think a lot of stock and if you're just looking at like current results, I understand she is an underdog, right? But it's her it's her rookie year in professional golf. Her results on the LPGA Tour is because every single place that she goes to is brand new. All right. It takes a lot. We've seen that with rookies every single year since professional golf was like a thing. Where she's at currently is just part of her process and part of her development. I think there's a lot of stock that we put into her being number one, you know, for a little bit of time. She would have been

number one in the world for a long time if it wasn't for Ingrid Lindblad. Right. She just came, she totally came up when it's very difficult. I mean, she won, I can't remember if it was last year or the year before, but she won the European ladies amateur. You know, I was 23. Okay, so I say that, you know, we say that she's a product of Mississippi State, but she brought more to that program than probably that program gave her. You see like there's this revolution now

of incredibly talented Spanish amateurs that are coming up the women's ranks that she is like leading the way on. She is going to be a Solheim Cup contender, a part of next year's team. For sure. She's that good. She just needs to get more experience under her belt in professional golf. So this result here on a very difficult golf course with her assistant coach at Mississippi State who caddied for her last year at the AIG

Women's Open, they're just vibing and they're having a good time. And they're equals to everyone else out there because these players have never seen this golf course before. It's the first time all year she's actually on even footing with everybody. course before. It's the first time all year she's actually on even footing with everybody. Yeah, I don't disagree. Don't disagree. Where do you want to go with the rest of the leaderboard? Do we want to drill in on any of these Japanese women tied for third? Do you want to talk about Nellie? I don't want to get, you know, we could, we can go wherever you guys want. You tell me. could we can go wherever you guys want you tell me. Yeah I would say you know now had a tough day I would say you know she's definitely still very much in this this is a fluke day for her and I have this weird feeling that just like

Chevron you know people want to say that she kind of came out of nowhere in one Chevron like no she put herself in the position and played really really good golf and won it straight away in the playoff. I think she is absolutely at the top of the leaderboard coming in with probably the most momentum even though today was a bad day for her. And it's like one of those where she touched, she touched the fire and got bit and she's not going to make those mistakes tomorrow. I just kind of have that feeling.

I think Nellie probably deserves a bigger conversation. Lin Minji, I'm super impressed with Sarah Smedle, even though she shot 74 today, she's still sitting there at T7. She had to play the first two rounds with Carlota. They were like on the clock for basically all of the first two rounds. It's crazy the amount of pressure that they played under and She still finds herself in this position in the top 10 when she's like Desperately trying to win on her seventh year on LPGA tour. She still hasn't won Yeah, yeah, I I would say alright a lot a lot of directions we can go back to mouse I go I I would say, all right, a lot of directions we can go. Back to Mal Sigo, I wonder if you shot her

with truth serum tonight, if in a weird way she would almost prefer being two shots back instead of like she was today, three shots up starting the day. I just feel like it's hard to hold a bigger lead at a US Open specifically, where there are a lot of bogeys, some doubles. We saw that at Chevron a little bit.

She was just kind of there and snuck into the playoff and won the playoff. So I'm certainly not counting her out. I also wonder how easy it is to kind of recover from a bad third round. I'd be very curious if anybody has stats like the women who have won the US Open over the last decade, let's say.

I wonder what their third round scoring average is. I would be curious if it's like, hey, there are examples of people shooting 75 and then coming back and having a really nice fourth round. I don't know. Rio Takada is coming. TC loves her. I'm sure he's going to want to talk

about her. She's a rookie this year, but she's already won twice on the LPGA. She won late last year when she wasn't even a member and then she won in China early this year. So she is, she fully belongs where she is. And then Hanako Shibuno? She is an AIG women's open champion She is not the greatest ball striker quite honestly, but just has a demon of a short game So if it's if it turns into a bit of a slog tomorrow I wouldn't count her out with her ability to get up and down and her putter But that brings us to Nellie again, solo six. She shot one over 73 today.

Cody, I thought I thought she was pretty bad for most of the day. And I thought it started with the putter. I just thought her putting honestly looked so tentative. It seemed like even her birdie putts, she just seemed to be lagging a lot of stuff up. She turned in 40, she was one over par, but total credit to her, you know, instead of like really going away, she didn't make a bogey on the back. She found three birdies and now here she is, three shots back and I do think this would be a very momentous victory for her for many reasons.

Chiefly, like a difficult, proper setup and we just haven't seen her, you know, she's a lot like Rory in that when she's on and when, you know, she can just pin her ears back and go fire at flags, she's really good. We just haven't seen her play a patient and win a very patient golf tournament. Maybe outside Palace Verde's last year. But I'm curious your guys' thoughts on Nellie. I guess the question that I'll start the conversation, were you more heartened by her round today or were you more disappointed? I was so heartened by it. I mean this is normally when Nellie kind of ejects and she could have done that after shooting 40 on the front nine, but she actually fought back

and played really, really good clean scorecard coming in on the back, finally got her speed under control. Seemed like her ball striking just got better overall. I mean, I feel really good about where Nellie's at right now. Jordan? Yeah, I mean, I think Nellie's own worst enemy is herself in a lot of major championships and she really studied herself today. I thought I found it really fascinating that she was leading the field and driving distance and fairway said, I mean, just phenomenal stats from that end. But like, you know, I don't think it's a cause for alarm.

In some instances, I watch her and especially with the putter, I watch her and I'm like, we need to restart a dialogue on Nellie Corder. And then in other instances, I'm like, she's maybe she's just fine. And maybe I'm just impatient. And I'm asking for instant gratification out of golf, which is a silly thing to do. You know, I is a silly thing to do. You know, I think it was steady and I think heartened is a good way to come out of it. It's a great takeaway.

And I'm very curious to see, right, if she comes out tomorrow, is aggressive, is firing at flags and, you know, just has the stroke of confidence and is just ready to chase. I would love to see that out of Nellie because then she would be a certified killer. Like I just I could never I could never say a bad word about Nellie Corta again truly if she clips off US Women's Open at Aaron Hills could never do that again.

But we've got 18 more holes of golf to watch from Nellie Corta this weekend. JP said it feels very similar to last, going into last Sunday at St. Andrews big. I know, I know. I was just gonna kind of go through her stats. JP said she leads the field this weekend, or she led today, excuse me, in driving distance. For the week, she's second in strokes,

gained off the T at plus 1.8. She's seventh in strokes, gained approach. at plus one point eight. She's seventh in strokes gained approach So like she's hitting the ball great She said 37 of 42 fairways. She said 42 of 54 greens, which is tied for third It is the putter. She's losing shots with the putter today. She lost nearly two strokes You're right Jordan her and it's. She's making it a conversation again. And, um, it will be a shame if she hits the ball as well as she has this week

and is simply let down by the putter. Like it's going to feel like another missed opportunity, Cody, to your point, like St. Andrews felt like a big missed opportunity for her. I will say the one thing about putting too is that that's a direct reflection of her ball striking. These greens are massive out there and she's just like, she's not sharp so far with their irons.

And when she's coming in with like such shorter irons compared to everyone else, and then is like completely missing on the wrong side of the green and then struggling to to put that's why she has so many three puts. And that's why it seems like every single time we're watching Nellie putt, we're like, Oh no here, because she also is like making us feel that way. It's just crazy that she's right back to that same position. I saw a comment in the live chat earlier, like nobody, you know,

those, those spider putters, like nobody looks confident over a five footer with them. Definitely Nellie, like, it is jarring. You're just like, I don't know, compared that to like Maya over five, 10 footers today, I was like, Oh, I know. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's just crazy watching the confidence and strokes compared to the two. And we're sitting here saying oh, yeah You know Nellie's got a chance to do this last year. It's st. Andrews Nellie was really thrown off her game by the pace of play and Kind of like just I don't want to say it was a bad group

But she put herself in a really bad position trying to go in and come from behind to get it She absolutely should have. She absolutely could have. But that's where we saw like a lot of the mental flaws and mental mistakes lead to the biggest mistake of all on I can't remember if it was 15 or 16 when she just like completely blocked it into the parking lot. But I don't think tomorrow, you know, she's going to have the biggest crowds, but they're playing six hour rounds here Like that's not gonna help her mind. That's not gonna free her up No

Hopefully the experience will help her hopefully the pace will be a little better They should they will be off in twosomes They went off in threesomes because they couldn't complete round two because of the weather Still think that's kind of BS. I would have loved the USGA to figure out a way to send them off in twosomes. Yeah, it's gonna be, God, can't wait to see what Nellie has in store. Cause man, if that putter does get hot tomorrow for a day,

whoo, she's gonna be very difficult to beat. But I can see- I mean, the totality of all this is just massive on her. Like this is like her final boss of major championships. I mean, this is just she's had her worst finishes in major championships at US Women's Open. It's so between slow play, different things getting in her head. I mean, I just, you know, if she can come out, hey, if she top five here,

I think that that that's tremendous, truly. And I would love to see what comes from that But I you know, this is her final boss like in you know to see her slay something like that We I don't know. I almost think like her I Don't know. I would be so excited about her legacy at that point, you know, and I'm getting really giddy thinking about it But But yeah, just, you know, please get get through those putting woes girl, please. For sure. For sure. I think you know, she's definitely going to be aided tomorrow. She's playing they're going off in two some smart, which they should have today. And she's paired with Mal, who, you know, she is going to love because they're both major champions, they

both are going to go out and do serious work. And I think that's a very good grouping for Nelly, as opposed to being with, you know, somebody else out there with pressure is truly coming down and, you know, somebody spitting the bit and completely getting out of there. But I'm very interested to hear about on the ground experience and what it's like out there. But before we get there, I want to talk about this new piece that I got right here big and of course that's from our friends at Levelwear. The new No Laying Up with Levelwear items are in the Pro Shop now. Please check them out. They're available to everyone. New lightweight hoodies for men and women, new t-shirts too, including a couple new youth options. Check out the Lux Tia Streetwear inspired premium unisex t-shirt with no laying up embroidery. Sweet. Visit store.nolayingup.com and stock up for summer. Of course, guy who is out there all day long. Well probably not all day long, but as long as little Charles out there, little Charlie would allow him to.

That's DJ Pie. Beach. Greetings folks. Thank you. Oh, the pie man hit the merch tent. I see. I got one of these Sasquatch t-shirts that everybody's been talking about. I live here. I don't totally know what the reference to the Sasquatch stuff is. I don't know if that's something Northwoods sort of situation, but I'll take it. You know, TC wanted me to get one for him and figured I'd pick one up for myself as well. Great to be with you guys. What a day. I I'm not gonna go into that kids uh sort of situation but uh I'll

take it. You know, TC wanted me to to get one for him and figured I'd pick one up for myself as well. Great to be with you guys. Uh what a day out at the US Women's Open. Yeah and and also with you. Thanks for joining us. Uh correct me if I'm wrong. He took the wife. He took the baby. He went out for a nice day. How how was it? It was awesome man. Sincerely, very, very awesome. Perfect conditions out there.

It was like 62 degrees, a little cool in the morning. Sun shining, a lot of people out there. It was great. We had a really, really great time. I got a couple of observations in the notebook that I wanted to share with you guys. The first one was, and this, check me if I'm getting ahead of myself,

but it felt more like attending a British Open, an Open Championship to me than it did, you know, a normal LPGA event certainly, or even like a US Open. A lot of that is because of the colors out there, the fescue, the lack of trees. You can kind of go anywhere, do anything out there. There's no pinch points where they're funneling all the spectators into one place. It's

truly just like show up and roam, go do whatever you want, which makes for a really, really, really fun experience out there. And the other thing I'll say about that and why it reminded me of the open, I think is and hand up here for me, this is the I think this is the first US Women's Open I've ever been to. So I'm sure that they're all like this, but it's just about the golf out there. You know, there's not a bunch of like crazy ass activations going on and

don't tanks and all kinds of stupid shit. It's like, no, just come out and you're just gonna have a great view to hang out, watch the golf up close. And that's exactly what it was at Aaron Hills. So I hopefully that came through a little bit on on TV, but I thought a fantastic spectator experience. I know this isn't necessarily what what gets the people all hot and bothered. But again, just for future Aaron Hills content, for future venues like this,

it's so nice to be able to park on site. There's no shuttles. There's no like riding buses. There's no parking 20 minutes away. It's just like taking advantage of that big ass piece of property allows for you to have a pretty seamless in and out sort of day, especially with only one road

going to the golf course. So that was great. Do you wanna do more observations? Cause I also was, if you just wanna stay on Aaron Hills, the golf course, but I don't wanna get you off track of your observations. Oh please. You tell me which way you'd like to go.

Well the only thing I guess maybe I would flip, the counterweight to that whole thing, is it's hard to make it feel like there's a million people out there. You know, like that place is so big and so sprawling, and like one of the cool benefits is like, there's a bunch of huge hillsides where you can just go post up and hang out and watch golf,

and you know, nobody's in your way, and you got room to spread out and it's great. But it's gonna take till the final group on Sunday, the final green on Sunday, there you go, there's that hill that we were talking about. Yeah, it's gonna take until kind of that final group, final green to make it feel like all the people that are out there are out there.

So the closest we got is this photo I think of of you can obviously guess this is Nelly going off. Number one, nice crowd out there for that. But other than that, I mean, the people are pretty spread out, which makes for a great spectator experience, but probably looks a little thin on TV, I would say. Yeah. And you're not going to get like the cascading roars across the like you would a tighter piece of property, especially like with no trees or nothing for those roars to bounce

off of. You know what's quite to the contrary, it's so quiet out there because of it. No, no, no, because the property is so big. It's just it's quiet to the point where I was like, man, my guy Charlie here could could really affect this championship at any given time. You know, that was kind of running through my head, but luckily he was on his best behavior. Okay, all right.

Well, good to know, good to know. There we are. I called you on the top of the show. I would say you are a resident Aaron Hills expert, just by virtue of your proximity to the course. I think you've played it the most out of any of us. I had a question for you today. How close was Aaron Hills today for these women

to like the ideal in your mind of what Aaron Hills should be and the tests that it should offer? I don't think it was far off. I mean, I think you saw it reflected in the scores. There's one round in the 60s, a bunch of rounds in the 80s, a lot of those like hockey sticks going up by some pretty big names.

And I think what's worth pointing out is like that happened with absolutely no wind. That was basically just a whole location, some bad game management, which we'll get to in a second and you know, nice firm greens. And so it's like, I'm sure the fairways are probably running a hair slower than they they would like. I'm sure the greens maybe are just a hair slower or a hair less firm than they they would like now that they've, you they've cut it down to 60.

But I think it's pretty close. I mean, I think the only thing you'd ask for is maybe 10 miles an hour wind. I don't think you want it to be crazy bloodbath-y out there, but I thought it was a really, really, really fun test to watch today. I think you could see the people who were down to make... 15 is the best example. Probably we can just go right there. Like there were 15 was sick. You could see the people who were down to make very easy fours into that pin. Like, truly, I don't know. I'm not trying to get out of my skis, but like knock, you

know, you need to hit a 220 shot or something down there to the front of that green and chip on. And it is a very easy for I promise and a lot of those other people that are just like refusing to do that God they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar just made to look like fucking fools and it was sick like it was awesome some of the people flying it up there like whole high and leaving themselves these impossible chip shots and ping pong and over the green. It was just, it was great. And that's what I'm like, man, as much of that as,

as possible, it probably didn't get quite as much, quite as much TV run, but the pin on number two was very similar. We sat there for maybe an hour just watching groups go through and like, again, the people who just want to kind of knock one down there and, you know, play US Open golf and leave themselves a little 60 yard pitch that they can put plenty of spin on and hit it up there to 12 feet and maybe make it

or definitely to putt seem to have no problem. And the people were like, man, I'm forcing this thing up there and I'm going to have to, oh my God, all of a sudden I have to hit this like crazy nippy little pitch, like did not have a fun time. And I think that's the whole thing, right? Like that's, that's it. And, uh, to your guys point out, you know, I was just listening to you, uh, before I hopped on, it's like, I kinda, you, you saw the two sides of Nellie, I think in that, in that debate,

on that front side, just like, I'm not having a good time. She had a horrible three putt on two when she came through there. Horrible read on like was out of 15. Just like some really weird spots and but still kind of kept her head in it and fought it out. And I think like with again no wind tomorrow and maybe they you know have another mix of you know almost flip like they had some pins that were pretty, pretty gettable today and a lot of pins that were really hard. I think all of these greens kind of have both of those options. So maybe you, you flip them and you make the easy ones hard

and the hard ones easy tomorrow. And like, I think there's still a lot of birdies out there, which is again, really fun. I think all the par fives are gettable twos gettable 10 can be gettable. I don't know, there's just a lot of, I think, I'm Jordan, no offense to you or anyone. I think that we might see a bloodbath in that final group tomorrow. I think we might see some classic like history book, Old Testament, US Open shit tomorrow. Inexperience meets just like a freight train of nerves and I don't know this is another one of my observations but like I can't unsee some of Maia Stark's chipping stuff I don't know if you guys caught

much of this on on the broadcast. Dude it's not good and it's still like statistically I think she's still kind of like above average for the week and maybe it's just the reason this stuck with me so vividly Is because she's doing the same thing that I'm doing currently which is she on number two you guys can picture it Up and over short par four she drove it up there, you know the pin if you go back actually chart to that that photo of Charlie Smiling I think you can see the second green in the background but to that photo of Charlie smiling. I think you can see the second green in the background. But this pin is perched on this short front right corner right there, just above his left shoulder.

And she drives it up there, front left of the green. So now all of a sudden she's got this kind of infinity chip looking thing. And the tension and the over the top, like get the axe out wood shop long pole left. Like she chipped it into that bunker long and I think it like flew into the bunker. It wasn't even close. And then you saw her on 15 to her. She had another kind of touchy one and she just like basically laid it up.

I'm like, I don't know. I don't think going into the final round and then she's talking about how bad she plays when she's scared afterwards. It's just there's a lot of interesting, interesting stuff. So I love watching her play golf and I hope she proves me wrong and I hope she goes and wins. I think that would be electric. But I'm interested to see what happens. Cannot wait. Well, question for you. We saw 15 I think by virtue of that pin placement as you're looking up at the green it was far right. I don't think the broadcast captured as well as they could have like just because it's a short for that was not a birdie hole today. I mean you saw Esther Hensley had an eagle putt and ended up making double which was so sick. So sick. So sick. It was part of like the pace of play apocalypse was how hard 14 or was how hard 15 was. My question, where would

you like to see the pin today? Because I think when they put it back left almost in that little bowl, it becomes more of a birdie hole. Do I think when they put it back left, almost in that little bowl, it becomes more of a birdie hole. Do you think- It's like hard not to make three from there. Yeah. You drive it in one of those horrible bunkers or bone a chip or something.

It's like- I hope that's the flag even more right tomorrow, but I have a suspicion they're gonna put it back in the left and it's gonna be a much friendlier hole. I think that's right. And I, cause I think it was back there for day one too, right? Yeah. I don't think they're going to go three of the three of the four, even though they should.

Is there like a short? Is there like a front kind of not in that bowl? Is there a front location they could utilize, which they haven't like really been in that area yet? Yeah, there is. I wonder if that would just, I think that would almost be, I don't know, someone have to correct me, but I think that would be less exciting because then I think you just hit it to that catcher's mitt that's kind of behind it and everybody has 15 feet.

Whereas I don't think anybody's gonna try to hit like the perfect shot and then come up short and then watch it roll back to their feet. I think it would just be like, spin one off that slope and you're gonna have six to 15 feet for Birdie. I think they might, I don't know, they might put it, I didn't see where it was in round two,

so I don't know what pin spots are left, but I could see it like, I can see them making that like a Two-hole though. I mean like you know putting it where it's reachable And maybe you just do put it put it like in that catcher's mitt especially how hard 17 they can make that one especially How hard 18 obviously plays 13 is really hard? 14 I don't know if they've put it have they jammed one way, way, way right on, on 14 yet, the par five? Cause that has a very, very similar, like infinity drop off on that right side, which can be really fun, especially you get a player that's very reachable.

So you get a player going for that one and in two and trying to use that slope. And a lot of people will either like get hung up in that back rough, like Jenny on coded or, uh, you know, or they miss right and they've got like, you can watch three or four come back to your feet from down there. So it's like, they still have a lot of pins that I think will be really fun, but part of me kinda hopes that they just pick their spots

because I don't think it's necessarily fun when every hole plays as hard as possible, but when you have like one out of every three playing as hard as it can is kind of the mix, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Any other? Well, the other comment I was going to say, they were claiming the greens were stimpin' at almost 13 today, which is... Spicy. Yeah, they're probably just not as firm, maybe, as obviously they could be with the moisture. What's also fun about them too is they do get really, really fast out there, but they're

also just so pure. They're truly just started on the line. I think you saw it with, was it Moussaigo on 18 when B bones was like, Oh, she ran that way past and like, this one's, this one's pretty delicate. Like she, she hearted that, but that was just like, Oh yeah, started on your line. It's, it's not going anywhere. You know? So even if, even though they're quick, they're, I think you could still run in some, run in some putts. Any other observations?

A lot of drugs. Do you have anything in the lot of drones out there? Like a the... A lot of drones out there. A lot of drones. A true fleet of drones out there which was kind of electric. And I thought made the broadcast kind of pop a little bit. Which was great. We're kind of dancing around this a little bit.

Just kind of some subject game management to some of those pins. I was, I was kind of saying it on two, but 15 was the other one, man. I was struggling to wrap my head around missing in some of those spots. And so I'm pumped to see if that continues tomorrow because I think it makes for some pretty electric viewing. I want to put 18, the 18th hole, I think TC and I have have long debated this. We have a couple of lists, obviously the things that are sick lists, we have that running. We also have kind of a national registry of true par 5s, which they're such an endangered species. As you guys know, there's very few true par fives left in the world.

It's like the 15th of pine Valley. There's a, that one hole straight up the hill. Truly. I think it's like number six. You know, there's just very few that are on there. And, and I would like to include the 18th at Aaron Hills, I think is a true par five in every sense of the word. Nelly, you know, kind of forced one up there, but not many other players even sniffing that thing in two shots. It is a like nightmare layup.

And then even when you do layup, you usually have like, every time I've ever played that hole, I'm always like, all right, I should have, it's a par five, I hit two good shots, I should have like 80 yards in. And you always have like 169 uphill and it's just death in every direction. Well, that greens back too. God, I just missed long and it's so hard.

It's so hard. And so I just, I want to put that on the list of official par fives. And, you know, that was a big one. You and TC need to start like a national registry like honestly like give plaques to these places. There's not many others that that are on there and if you if you know of one that you'd like to go through the approval process please you know submit it through the proper channels we'll take a look. You gotta hang that pin out there too on the left hand side 18 bar right? That's what I talk about like not fun things to see coming down like the stretch and trying to close out your definitely your first major. Yeah that there's so

many disasters looming on that hole. Another thing I want to shout out Cody I think I sent these these junior posters over. I don't know if you if you saw those photos this was a nice one they had over. I don't know if you saw those photos. This was a nice one. They had some young artists, 10, 11, 12 years old, submitting some final designs for the US Women's Open poster. This one coming out of Winfield, an 11-year-old from Winfield. The one from Harper, age 11 from a Conama walk. I was like, man, I was blown away. That's so good. Kind of like, yeah, I loved that. I don't even know what that is. If it's almost like the chalk

or those like craypods sort of situation. Great stuff. That would stop me in my tracks. Would love to put that on my wall. So I thought that was a nice touch. Just some cool posters. And of course, Madison from north of the border, west of the border, I guess, in Minnesota, uh, with the, with the Holy Hill, just a traditional kind of, uh,

kind of poster there. I thought there was the Holy Hill has not gotten as much run as I would have expected this week in, in, in a massive upset hammering the Holy Hill. It's been one of my favorite things about, about Aaron Hills is like if you're standing on I think it's the 8th tee or I think it's the 8th tee there's a like you you know you can you guys can

Remember you can kind of see Holy Hill in a bunch of different spots And there's one of them where you can just so clearly see where they like notched out all the trees so that you can see from the golf course to Aaron Hills and Talking to the caddies they're like every every time you get like out of town people or whatever, they're always like, man, that's so cool that the trees just like they grew like the perfect way so you could see a Holy Hill like that's amazing. Big, I got stopped in the merch tent today as I was checking out because apparently you had made reference to wanting to get a poster and yes oh it was part of our preview yeah JP showed us uh don't call it a preview don't call it a preview that's right

a deep dive history uh one of the cashiers was like hey man i know Randy was looking for a poster i was gonna set one aside i didn't i didn't see any uh so i was looking i didn't i didn't you know we're gonna try to grab you one but but didn't see it. You can't take one of these home? That's kind of what made me think. Truly, I was Harper's. Name your prize, please. Exactly, that's kind of what I was thinking. So if we can get a print, maybe we can do a run of prints

of Harper from Economal Walks posters. We can maybe try to get you one of those. Deidre, what's the plan tomorrow? Are you going out or you're gonna watch on TV from home? You know what? This whole entire uh just weeks and weeks leading up. I was like, man, we're we're shooting like Monday to Thursday. We've got these like we're shooting from like 6 AM to like 10 PM. We have busy days

and every day like big heavy shoot days. I was like I I I'll go out Saturday with the family like that'll be awesome and I was like, I'll go out Saturday with the family. Like, that'll be awesome. And I was like, I think I'll just probably watch on Sunday. Getting out there today and walking around. I was like, I'm 100% coming back tomorrow. This is way too good. You don't get to see the women's game up close and personal in that way.

Certainly not an hour from your house very often. So I'm pumped, man. Especially now that Mao and Nellie are are playing together, like I'm going to get there, I think, and go follow that group for a while and see if anybody wants to make an early move, which you kind of low key can do. We saw Rio made Eagle on number one today. Someone can put one up there and make a three on.

You can definitely go three, three to start out there and start sending some shock waves up that leaderboard. So I think I'll follow those guys for a while. And then if the final group is hanging tough, would love to see that in person. So maybe I'll fall back or I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm very excited though. I can't wait to go get out there and watch some golf.

Truly, guys, the weather could not be better. It's it's crazy. Like nice and cool. And again, that was like, kind of what almost reminded me of the open to is like, I feel like every golf tournament I've been to for the last 10 years is like, like 96 degrees. You know, it's just fucking so crowded. And I'm like, God, yeah Yeah, this this is totally better than watching it on TV But this one actually this one actually is I can't wait to go get out there and watch more golf tomorrow Well, awesome

Incredible family pictures that you took over sent over as well. Hopefully it went well pick to win before we let you go. I Hopefully it went well. Pick to win before we let you go. I like, I know TC is gonna ride with Rio Takada probably. Takeda? We'll have to ask Pooj. You know who my pick to win is? Minji Lee. I think she's in it.

Like, I don't know if you guys are doing how far back is too far back, but I do not think she's too far back. I think someone's going to go out and make some birdies. I think there's going to be a lot of nerves at the top of that leaderboard. She could be somebody 3-3 start and it's like, oh, okay. Which I think would be really, really fun. Or Nellie. God, Nellie might do it too.

I don't know. It would be fun to watch.. Or Nellie, God, Nellie might do it too. I don't know. I don't know. It'd be fun to watch. Minji Lee is my official. We'll all find out. Yeah. Well, very good. Dej, thank you very much.

Thanks for the pop-in. Have a great evening. I was gonna say, I'm glad the fine people of Wisconsin are finally enjoying some nice weather. If I learned anything this past week, I know how tough of a spring it's been. So you guys just deserve it. Yeah, thanks guys. Well, enjoy, yeah, enjoy the rest of past week. I know how tough of a spring it's been. So you guys deserve it. Yeah. Thanks guys. Well, enjoy. Yeah. Enjoy the rest of the week. I'll, I'll pop

back on tomorrow if you'll have a week. Thanks, buddy. Thanks guys. We are going to get TC in here in just a second while we wrangle him. JP, one of the games within the games every year is the race for low amateur. What do we need to know about it? You know, run us through who's in contention. Set us up for tomorrow's final round for low am. Well, first, let's talk through the AMS that actually made the cut this weekend. Six amateurs made the cut.

To no surprise, Lottie Wood made the cut. Carlina Lopez-Chicada, which goes by Cece, and that is much easier to say, so I'll just keep referring to her as Cece. Kiara Romero, Farrow Keefe, Rayi Fang, and Maria Jose-Marin, your D1 individual national champion reigning. So six ams made the cut this week, or this weekend, which was tremendous truly and I think just another testament to how good they've been. I do really quickly want to acknowledge a couple AMs that did miss, which was disappointing for me to see just some notable names. Astros Talley missed, Paula Martin San Pedro missed the cut and Carla Bernay Escudero, your reigning Anwa

Champion, Missed the Cut. So I was really bummed out by those misses. But yeah, we've got an interesting low-am race on our hands. It was kind of interesting. I felt like I jinxed Alati a little bit this morning. I got really excited that she was in featured group coverage, and I tweeted it out with like the alarm emojis. And then like all of a sudden, she is just like ejecting herself.

She bogeyed four times on the, no sorry, she doubled seven and had three bogeys on the front nine and I'm like oh dear, okay, no, no, no, I wish I could take this back. I just don't want to gatekeep the Lottie Boat coverage. But, so yeah, I really thought it was hers for the taking and then it totally wasn't. Cece, as I mentioned, Karolina Lopez-Chiquita had made the cut on the number plus one and she was kind of fighting yesterday to kind of stay in it.

And she's actually really in this. She's only a shot behind Lottie. She played the best out of all the amateurs today. Was plus two. Lottie was plus four. Lottie's just kind of all over the place, so I don't really know. I think there's a lot of pressure not only to make Loam,

but there's also a lot of pressure for her to get another point, for her to get her LPGA card, which we've talked about it on our podcast before, but the elite amateur program, the LEAP, she's right in it. She's only a few points away from earning her LPGA tour card right before her senior year of college. So she right now, this week, she got her 17th point. If she finishes in the top 25, she'll get her 18th point. And next week she's slated to play in the Arnold Palmer Cup. So she would get her 19th and be one away from the 20 that she needs. And I'm not going to get super ahead of ourselves. But Lottie is in the Women's British Open. So I don't know, it could happen. She could have this thing back up this summer. She could earn an LPGA card by the end of the summer.

Yeah. Which is huge because they funnel everybody through qualifying series now. So it was either, you know, get a card this way, which is a new pathway for the elite AMs, or, you know, you're gonna have to play well at qualifying series, which, you know, over a handful of rounds who knows?

That's that's always a iffy proposition It's iffy and it's also been really sacrificial for a lot of college careers because there's people at their prime You know They've got to make a lot of hard financial decisions to whether to play in it or to forego the rest of their eligibility And I think Lottie doing this is super cool, especially in the infancy of LEAP, that hasn't even been a thing for even a year. Like it's still in its very first year.

And so getting those 20 points is really hard. I mean, you have to have a number of wins, awards, achievements, et cetera. And I think if Lottie can do it, that would be awesome, but she's got a unique set of pressures on her this weekend versus Carolina, who is kind of on the come up from having a pretty gnarly wrist injury in the middle of her college career. She was obviously on that Wake Forest National Championship winning team and has had a tremendous college career overall. But she struggled a little bit with injury and closed

out her college career really impressively. She had two wins in her senior year. And is finishing things up. And I think it would be, I think for her to just have that on her mind, a good finish in mind, really kind of separates those pressures. And it would, I'm interested to see who plays well tomorrow between the both of them I But I don't know I just I Go back and forth because I didn't like what I saw out of Lottie today She missed a lot of greens long and I know her distance is kind of like her best weapon But she's just really struggled a lot with the putter and I think she just I don't know she's not really doing herself many favors and I don't know.

That's kind of how she lost Anwar and I really hope she kind of straightens things out a little bit tomorrow, kind of resets and gets back into it. You know a funny Lottie pre-tournament story. So I guess, you know, it's a big walk out there at Erin Hills, not only length but also hills and everything else like that. She currently has double blisters. So blisters on both heels. I don't know what shoes she was wearing, if they're new or whatnot, but completely tore up her feet. So she's kind of been struggling out there and I know almost every single one of us, whether it's been on a golf trip

or anything else, you put on new shoes like one round before you probably should and those blisters just destroy you. So I couldn't imagine like trying to get around four rounds at Aaron Hills and like, Oh my goodness, my feet hurt so bad. I will plug. But joy quantums. I wore them all this week in Milwaukee. Legitimately, I think the most comfortable golf shoe I've ever worn. And I'm someone that has trouble finding a super comfortable walking shoe. So free plug there for our friends at Foot Joy.

The Quantum is excellent. JP, I know there's a amateur though that currently is low-am, Ray Fang, who is a, believe, a a 16 year old's from New Jersey It's okay if you don't know much about her But this has to be a little bit of a shock here her she's tied for 27th going into the final round Yeah, I know I talked up the underdogs a little bit earlier with Julia in the mix But this is certainly the underdog of all of them. I mean she's kind of creeping up on

Lottie And carolina just kind of hanging in there. Um, I don't know. I'm fascinated to see I I you know, maybe Didn't really mention her because i'm like, ah, all right, like, you know ray thing Okay, like you know, maybe you're saying she's gonna play horribly tomorrow. No, we get it Maybe maybe I maybe and I don't want that for raving I really do not but hey, you know, I think this is a moment where I can say ray thing I was not familiar with your game And may cope I said CC had the best round of the day

Actually, no rate. She did have the best round of the day Ray thing had the second best round of the day and then it was Lottie I don't know that I think they got to be a little bit intimidated, right? Seeing like a 16 year old just shoot up the leaderboard and hang in there. So I'm curious to see if she hangs around or if she completely ejects herself. You know, there's one person who we can get to report on this. All right. So 16 year old Ray Fang, she's from Short Hills, New Jersey. That is the younger Schuster's neck of the woods, we

might have to get some on the ground reporting to figure out what's going on. Yeah, she incredible story. I don't know. I hope she I just went to pull up her AJGA results in her last tournament she was DQ from and it doesn't really say why it just I hope she I just went to pull up her AJGA results in her last tournament She was DQ'd from and it doesn't really say why it just says DQ'd So I'm like, okay, that's not helping me out too much But it says she did win the New Jersey women's open last year at Knickerbocker Country Club. So Yeah, she got something going on tomorrow. Yeah

will be a rising senior and Good honor good honor. We'll see what she's all about tomorrow, I think. JP, thank you. Should be a great race for Lowam. Fun game within the game to keep an eye on. Cody, do we have Tron Carter anywhere? Do we want to? We do. Okay. He needs his own entrance music. Let's bring TC in. Mr. TC, let's he needs his own entrance music. Let's let's bring TC Mr. T. What's going on? Nothing. Nothing. I just got back from PGA Junior League Shout out to the first responders of golf. They're doing a great job out there growing the game Freddy's first first match ever

It was awesome. I wanted to, I was so jealous. Man, I want to get out there. They're doing a little two on two scramble. And Cody, I got the big green egg all fired up. I just opened up a bottle of wine. Big night here, but I'm so jacked up after watching the last two or three hours of coverage today. 15 was magical. I feel like we got a us open on our hands are big

Absolutely tc. I think it was p proper with a capital p it was good shit today And I was gonna say this is like a tc certified leaderboard. I feel like we have some swedes up there We have a trio of japanese women. You got to be loved. We have Minji Lee. I know you're a big Minji Lee guy. This has to suit your eye. It does. It does. And you know, Rio Takeda, I think that was one of my predictions beginning of the year was like, she's going to win a major this year. So I think, you know what, the other thing I love having stats, having like proper stats to look at, like looking at, uh, you know, Maya and Rio or they're one and two and in approach play, you know,

game, they've gained like 2.4 shots this week. We didn't drive it all that well today. So I think, I think the sustainability models are liking her. She can just get off the tee a little bit better tomorrow. Uh, just kind of smooth and steady. But honestly, mouse I go like super impressive, just didn't go away. Just, you know, kind of even keel right there. I can't imagine playing golf for that long. For six and a half hours. I know. God, that's brutal. It was too bad that bogey on 18. That was the one that was really

like, yeah, we got to be we got to be a little bit better than that. As we look down the leaderboard though, TC, it is a good leaderboard. Minji is the only one with a US Open victory on her resume. Of course we have other major winners. Nelly, we spent a long time talking about. Malysaigo won Chevron. We mentioned Hanako's, uh, an AIG winner question for you. Who, who, who do you, who do you think has the most to prove tomorrow? Is there anybody that you're looking at? And it's like, you

know, she's got to answer the bell for you a little bit. You guys talked about it earlier, Nelly. I want to see if she's got any grit or, you know, I think everybody was glazing her a little bit too much for a 73 today. And I, you know, I know she, she, she stayed in it, putts weren't dropping. She was a little hang doggy after the front, but I want to see her go out and be a bulldog, which like, I feel like Maya, like, like everything that Maya is, is from Nelly. Um, you know, I think you'll EMI could be a big day for her tomorrow. Like if she can, she can keep, uh, playing well 75 today, not great, but, um, and then otherwise I think Lynn Grant, man, I think if Lynn Grant can go snatch one, like Randy, how far back is too far back? We got minus sevens the lead.

And then beautiful segue. I know. Uh, DJ didn't really trust either of the ladies in the final group. Yeah. Maya and, and Julia, if they really come tumbling back, you know, I feel like two unders certainly is in it. Is minus one in it? I know I was going to say you can count them as minus one. Andrea Lee, Hannah Green. The question is how they're going to set it up. Whether there's going to be like a 67 out there for anybody tomorrow.

Yeah, I totally agree with Deidre. I don't think he just threw out all the toughest pins, especially with base of play out there. Like that was a disgrace to begin with today playing in threesomes when I don't wait till eight, like there's only 60 people made the cut. Don't wait till eight 30 to send them back out this morning to finish round two. And, and then that kind of like, I'll, I'll talk a little bit about it in a bit, but like, I think the caddy situation today, A, like those guys, I guess they couldn't go out and like scout the course before that I've ever heard. And I think that's the biggest thing that I've ever heard. And I think that's the biggest thing that I've ever heard. And I think that's the biggest thing that I've ever heard.

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it's not like today 15 should have been a surprise, right? Like they had, they put a US open here, they, they had the same pin there. Like, you know, it would, it would truly be like, it would take anybody like one or two rounds to just say, Hey, oh yeah, like that's, that's not worth going at back there. Like just lay back and like DJ said, it's a par hole today. It's not pretty old. Just accept that and move on. And instead between that and just some of the most like atrocious green reading I think

I've ever seen, there was so much bad putting out there. And it kind of makes me wonder, like, are these ladies being forced to think at all week to week on the LPGA tour? Like is there, like is it kind of a tell on the week to week setups? And I know we've talked about this a lot of like, should there be harder setups week to week with, I think the LPGA is shooting themselves in the foot of like, you want to see more dominance and more like the cream truly rise to the top. Like, cool. Like Nellie hit that Nellie had a great shot in the 14 or into 15 today, which is like a great shot got rewarded and a good shot was just a good shot. Like it wasn't, you know, and, uh, but I don't know, like it was just a little bit like, man, like they shouldn't, this shouldn't be the only time of year that

we see these ladies having to really manage your golf course or really play on some slopey ass greens, you know? Yeah. I think it's like, we're seeing a test of short games that we simply don't get enough, especially with the Wilshire off the, the Rota for this year as it was undergoing renovation. Um, that's, I'm shocked. We didn't see anybody chipping on 15 from that back hole. You know, they all like, like, like NBC didn't do any favors either. Like Morgan was like not giving any analysis and like they just kept saying the same thing over and over again.

It's like, that's crazy. Like, like surprised every time it happens. It's like, what are we doing here? Like add something, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Cody, how far back do you think is too far back? I'm right there with you. I think the group, uh, two, one, the group of two under is still good. So everybody in the top 10 has a shot. The only reason why I don't go back to 100 is because I mean, outside of, you know, yeah, Jin Young Co is there and Hannah Green, like they haven't really shown very much like killer tendencies this year at all. Hannah usually rises big time in this first part of the year and she's just kind of been

there hasn't really done much Jin Young kind of saved the same thing There's somebody there at ten under or not at ten under in the top ten of two under Ronnie in like nobody is set a word about it all that is like Salivating to be like, okay, you guys remember how I won my KPMG this exact same scenario like I fucking hunted Maguire down and just went like took it from her. Yeah I'm glad you said her I was thinking the same thing she is she's loitering with bad bad intentions I think TC I think Minji is as well like I yeah yeah I said earlier, yeah. Yeah. So she's turned her putting around so much. Again, like this isn't a conversation about the long putter right now. But if it's this drastic of a change, just from switching the

club, I would really like the governing bodies to look into it and like make sure that it's the shortest club in your golf bag. Because it's crazy how stinky she was and now all of a sudden she's just amazing. And you say the same thing about Ulemi and it's brought back their career. I just don't know if that's like kind of the golf. We're talking about how great it is at this venue this year and and how it's a challenge for people because of short grass and you and undulating greens and wind and thing, all this shit. And then we're kind of applauding people with a long putter.

I think to y'all's point, I think Sarah Schmelzel, if she puts a little bit better, she's driving it great. She's got some dog in her too. I think that I think she could, she can make some noise, but actually I think Lynn, like Lynn could, could dominate this golf course. Like if she just needs some putts to fall, like I remember following her at Solheim cup in Spain and just being like, man, how does she not like it's a big golf course, right? And she has a distinct advantage on a big golf course. And, you know, like DJ was talking about 14, if they put the pin over on the right on 14, there's so many ladies that are going to struggle so much with that third shot versus Lin being able to get it up there and two and, and you know, she had what to, you know, two 20 to 25 into 18 today. That's such a weapon. Well, yeah, it's such a weapon.

I would say, I don't know, it's to get a little cleaner though in like a short game. I just also, I couldn't believe she kept that jacket on TC. You call it the dare league collection. I was flabbergasted. She kept that thing on all day. Is it just bulky? TC, I understand where you're at with Lynn and Randy, you said something earlier in the private chat that kind of shocked me. I said, well, let me say it.

Wasn't also today supposed to be the round that Lynn took advantage of and capitalized and ran up this leaderboard and she didn't do it. She like kind of went and hid. But yet TC you kind of come in and you're like, ah, this is bullshit on Nellie. You guys were way too nice on her for back nine and like she did exactly what she was supposed to do. And Lynn did not. So my day has never done that. I'm sure people are wondering what my private take was, but I have no problem making a public take. I said today, I'm worried that Lynn is the next Charlie in the sense that both are like super fun to watch. Both I think are very swaggy out on the golf course. I just, they're,

they're not serious enough in the end to like win very much out here. I there's just, I don't know. I'm not serious enough in the end to like win very much out here. I there's just I don't know. Lynn's just not really. I think she's almost too serious though. Okay. I I just I don't know. Maybe it was like why why is

that bulky jacket on you all the years? It's gotta be that it's gotta be unwieldy. I don't know. She made a birdie on the line today. By that jacket big after you were applauding her last year at the women's open. When that was like some ridiculous shit. Well, that's what I mean. I have a hot girl summer. She's sweating the jacket. I don't know.

And I'm kind of getting there with Charlie. I love Nellie. Like, I don't think Nellie is like she's one of women's PGA and a chevron and she's 26 and like all we and she's almost 27 all we hear about is like like she's like right in the middle of her prime if not entering the back half of her prime. Listen I agree. I think this is I think Nellie a lot like Lydia code needed a US open or a British open and Lydia got hers last year like Nellie needs one of these in her career. Yeah. 100% and if solace your Nellie's window and for you TC I'm very curious. I don't know. She's got that long language swing that should age really nicely. But man, the Potter's just like truly hold like it's truly holding us all back from like witnessing some

greatness here. True. It's also very, very tough. Again, do you know how many years separate those two players? Who? Lynn and Nelly. Nelly's on the back half of her career. She's almost done. 18 months or like 11 months. And like Lynne is, but Lynne has not been a, I don't know, Lynne went to Arizona State. She's been pro for four years now. She's more Ludwig. I was going to say, Solly would be calling me out right now for, they're just at different points in their career though. I feel like like Lynn's still. But how can Nellie be closer like on the downhill slide, 11 months different than- I feel like we know exactly who and what Nellie is seemingly.

Like we've had seven or eight years of it. I'm getting more afraid that what we want and hope Lynn to be is just not gonna ever realize. And that's a bummer. Like I want her to become a top 10 player and she'll be top 10 for sure. For sure. But I don't think that she's the killer that that TC believes. I don't think she is yet. I think she almost has to like learn, learn how to be. But then I watched her at the solo. I'm confident. I'm like, holy shit, she is. She just, you know, I don't know. Anyway, I think Rio Takeda, um, and nobody's talking about

Shibuno either. We got the, no one's talking about Shibuno. That was this week. I've ever seen on 16. I could have sworn Shibuno made like six or seven bogeys today. And when I looked at her scorecard, I'm like, huh? She's only made like what? One or two. I, yeah. Yeah. Her short game is dirty, dirty, dirty. Yeah. And Randy, you were saying like,

I think 17 such an underrated hole out there. Like, yeah, I love 17 bunkers up there. Great green lock going on up there. Also, it gives the players the greens really sweet, but all like you want to get a better look for it. Take the route that Lynn and Maya took. They pushed a way out over on that right hand side where everybody else hugged it left. And it's like completely cutting off half that green.

If you're aggressive with your lines off the tee, you're rewarded for it seemed like I mean that was part of Maya's game plan today. I think something else with the Japanese players is I think an underrated element with them is they they know how to win because they've they've all like won a bunch in Japan. Right. Like they know how to close out golf tournaments. They, you know, there's shorter golf courses and everything like that, but they know how to like go slam the door. Like we educated won a bunch last year, you know, which I think is a pretty, you know, versus, you know, somebody like a Sarah Schmelzer or even a Nelly, it's like they're not, you know,

they're not winning at that clip or they haven't done that until, you know, they're kind of, I mean, Cody Nelly, Nelly didn't win for like how many times did she win? Yeah, I know. But like prior to last year, we were saying, like she had to like learn how to go slam the door. Correct. And she did.

I agree. But do you know where I like a Yalini No, right? Who turned pro super early. I know she did win on the LPGA this year, but I thought she is somebody TC like, yeah, had she like graduated from winning a bunch on another tour, I think it would just make such a difference where it's hard to learn how to win on the LPGA tour.

Oh yeah. Uh, it's a great point. And I mean, just different levels of winning, right? I mean, we talked about this with Angel, like she's, she's somebody like she expects herself to win every single tournament that she plays in. And it's just really, really hard weekend without on the LPGA tour. Like the TC's point when you have like setups that if you don't shoot 28 under par you're out of it you're like wait a second so then not identifying the right talent

those same people to come to venues like this and we're like well fuck that's not those don't really add up yeah like the fact that this is such an outlier for the season and it probably yields what seemed like fluke or winners when they shouldn't be as flukey, you know, because just identifying different stuff. I think another person a little bit disappointed in how she played today, Madeline Sagstrom. She was 77 today and like this feels like her kind of golf course. It's, you know, she's got all the shots teed to green. Just kind of, you know, a couple of tough holes in the front nine and then a string of bogeys coming in.

But yeah, I was disappointed. God, the way she hits the ball, I was hoping, you know, find fairways. If, if, if her approach plays on, you know, she's a good putter when she's hot. I had high hopes today too. That was disappointing. Um, let me transition us. if you guys don't mind, unless there's anything else by all means, but I was gonna TC and Cody and Jordan, uh, we don't have to like hammer it, but the broadcast,

the coverage of the U S women's open, I think is a story this week in so far as I think overall my take would be, this is by far and away the best presentation of women's golf that we get here in the United States. You can tell DJ talked about all the drones. I mean Tommy Roy's got the toys this week. They got you know Bones out there. He's great on the broadcast. They're doing feature groups. You got Dan Hicks. you know, he's he's part of the the main NBC team on the men's side What's good what's bad what's missing anything you want to shout out Please anybody jump in here with the with the broadcast coverage Cody

Yes, I do have one before we get starting down This is you rightfully called me out earlier when I was talking about Peacock and featured groups and early round coverage and everything. So this is you rightfully called me out earlier when I was talking about Peacock and featured groups and early round coverage and everything. So this is a, it's not a full one. This is a mini culpa from me. I'm sorry I had it on the wrong channel. No, that's okay. Outside of that. Well, let me, let me tell people tomorrow. We're two to seven Eastern on NBC slash Peacock,

but there's gonna be feature groups available before that on the USGA app and Peacock. Those aren't gonna be any of like the final four or five groups or whatever, but you can watch some early golf. Cody, go ahead. Yeah, I just, it's very, reminds me a lot of the US Open at LACC, that damn airplane that's up there. I'm happy to hear that there's all the drones and everything.

But the buzz from that damn plane, it really doesn't matter whose voice it is. And like, I think I thought Dan Hicks did an awesome job today. But it's just it drowns me to sleep and when you have like the LPGA tour and women's professional golf is already fighting an uphill battle when like trying to keep people entertained and put all this stuff you know together and then you have that I don't know what else they can do but with the reliance now on more drones you'd think we don't need to have these planes that are up there like that Especially when you only get in like a shot or two of from that vantage point an hour. I don't know with different camera angles drones

graphics on screen That's great the USGA website like even Deidre said, like on our Slack, Deidre said, like even the presentation that the USGA has, it just, the flags whipping at the top of the grandstand or the red, white, and blue, or just the way that they position grandstands. He's like, that felt like a major today. That felt like going to the urban championship and going to the, going to Quail Hollow for the PGA felt like going to a PGA tour of it. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And there, like there is something there with all that branding. I think for me, it's like, it's

the, the presentation was great. I thought the analysis, it just it just leaves me. There's just no juice. Right? There's no there's no real analysis. There's no I think I think there's sorely sorely missing Judy Rankin. Yes. I mean, she's just, you know, there's just a massive, you know, massive hole there. I think Morgan, I think this is one of those things where Morgan's probably still way too close to the players to be comfortable to like call shit out and say when things are bad. You can't everything is you can't be shocked when things are bad and be like wow that's crazy. I

can't believe that happened. Well like Morgan it's kind of your job to tell us why that happens. Yeah you know. There's never a why or there's never an explanation or how. They're missing a dynamic presence like Mel a Mel Reed, I thought was good in her. So good. And it's been awesome on live from she's great in the studio show. Yeah. And I think there's like, that's where it's like, I'm begging for somebody like Marina Alex, like get in the game or bring, bring Iona in or somebody where like, because, and, you know, I'll be like, I'll just be like, I can't do, I can't do Kay Cockrell. I feel like she's been doing this for a long time. And like, she's just like, not progressing. She seems like a nice person, all that. She's just not progressing.

She's not getting any better. I'm not, I'm not getting anything out of it when she opens, like, anything out of it when she opens like her line on the thing. And same thing with Tom Abbott, seems like a nice guy, but like I just, it just feels like a week to week LPGA tour event with no juice there. I don't want to go that. I don't think it's that far. Dan, I mean, it definitely feels elevated. The week to week LPGA Dan, yeah, Dan and even Morgan there. I'm like, all right, cool. Like that's that's fine. And then they toss it to them. And it's like, I just, I don't know how you, you get some more dynamic people in place there.

I just, I just need some new blood. I thought Cara Banks, she was doing the early Peacock main covers. I actually like Cara. I think she was good. I think it was her first time doing play-by-play stuff. She's usually only in studio or doing interviews. So phenomenal work by her. She was with Paige McKenzie.

That was enjoyable. Yeah, they're just miss, I think you nailed it Cody with Morgan is just too close. As an audience, you can tell she's not giving us everything she can. And I think that's the detriment of the view. Yes, it's safe. That's a great-

You don't have to flame them. You can just say, hey, like that was a bad shot. Like it's, I think Immelman does a great job with it. He's the Adam Scott's coach. He's close with all these guys. He was the president's cup captain. Like he's just as close as Morgan is with, and he does a great job with it. And Judy did it in like the most professional way. I know that was honed over decades, but like, it never felt malicious or mean-spirited or personal. It was just an objective evaluation of what was happening on the screen. evaluation of what was happening on the screen. Yeah.

Yeah. I think, uh, you talked about the sharp contrast from like the week to week. I also think this week really makes a bit of a mockery of like the Chevron, right as a major championship. Both from a broadcast perspective. Yeah. Just everything. It's like, yeah, it doesn't feel right to like mouse. I go, you have a major at the Chevron and you know, maybe she'll win tomorrow but it's just no comparison I'd say Evian's the same way. And KPMG like you need to step your game up and close the gap with what we see this week like the the PGA of America you got to put forth a better effort for the KPMG.

And we're not sitting here. I don't have as much opinion just because Cody and I are always over on site and we're doing radio like I don't really see the broadcast from an American perspective but we do know we do hear that there's a lot of commercials everybody says it's pretty shit. And like we're not we're not sitting here trashing them for moving over to golf channel, even today. Like, you know, it seemed like an own goal to fit in the window and then go an hour over the window. But like, hey, we get it. It was a pretty seamless transition over to there. They, you know, they didn't make a huge deal out of it. It's not a huge deal for me to change the channel

as long as I know where it is. And it's not going to Peacock, it's going to Golf Channel, right? Yeah. Which I wish the early coverage wasn't through a streaming service. I wish that was USA Golf Channel. I think that's the other thing.

It's like the memorial's kind of been a snoozer so far. I know Scottie played well at the end there, but it feels like kind of an opening for, you know, hey, get this thing on a channel that everybody can find pretty early on and let people get hooked to it early on and create some excitement and some buzz, you know. Hopefully that's the case tomorrow coming on too. Can I slip in a debatably hot take for a second? I would you would love nothing more. From a visual standpoint, I would say the US Women's Open is a phenomenal broadcast, truly.

However, from a storytelling perspective, I really do think it falls short to Anwa. And mostly because Anwa is spotlighting a part of the game that gets almost no visibility throughout the calendar year. And the US Women's Open is spotlighting something that gets a little more visibility. But it's also kind of going back to Chevron and commentaries on other major championships and how those broadcasts are. It's like those aren't really supportive and laddering up to what this could be. And so on one hand, it's like, you know, there's enough context here to really shine a light on these players and who they are and their stories and broadly who they are. And, you know, the tension and drama and everything in what this major championship means. In ONWA, they do it in such a tight window. I mean, they do it basically, the ONWA broadcast, so to speak,

I mean, the main day is Saturday, right? At that, that's the day everybody is watching the broadcast. That is the final round. That is the story of the week. And they highlight players who you've never heard of, you've likely never seen play, who get almost no visibility through the year, and they do a tremendous job at it. US Women's Open, I just feel in a lot of ways we're kind of left with context that's missing

or repetitive fun facts or things that like, you know, it's just, I don't know, it falls short in certain ways. Can I give a pushback? Yeah, absolutely. Look at the size of the field. I don't disagree with what you're saying, Jordan. I also think we might be sitting here complaining if they were doing a lot of that to the detriment

of just showing a lot of shots. And I will commend them for showing a lot of shots. They brought more cameras this year, you can tell. Yeah, I think that's a hard needle to thread. But I'm not- I would much rather miss on that'm not using or dismissing your point because I do. I do think it's completely. Ideally, we would get both. I want a broader illustration and visually and like consistency within the shots and

moving through. I don't I don't feel like we're honestly I think that's where NBC Golf Channel fails week to week is where they should be storytelling. And then as you said, like laddering up into like, this is the biggest week of the year, but at least the majors then, you know, ideally people are picking up the stories through the normal LPGA events. And there's little of that. Yeah. And it's going back to what we were talking about during Chevron.

It's like, it's just so frustrating that the week to week and the other major championships don't try to outshine each other as much, you know, and there's not, you know, it feels like there's a lack of competition in terms of what your product can be week to week or what your major championship is. I mean, you know, this has a very defined identity, right? And we really got into that in the deep dive, and it was so easy to really ID certain milestones and different things that made this championship. And with the other major championship, other than the British women's open, that's, that's pretty difficult to do. Yeah. And, and the, the AIG is like late to the party. Like that's only in the last, you know, couple of decades that, that they've been really invested in it. Yeah, you're exactly right.

I think we're kind of giving them the benefit of the doubt here because we have big complaints about and what coverage as well. I mean, there's not enough of it. It's not perfect rounds. I think that they're greatly aided by the fact that Augusta National puts it on and they have a ton of pre and post round coverage to tell those stories on the Friday of practice rounds, you have people coming through that live from desk and telling their stories and giving updates and getting to know these players. That's only 30 of them that make it to Augusta National. I mean, that's a lot different than trying to figure out what is 156 like which which name we're gonna draw out of that here. But I do agree that like the fact sheet for this week seems to be about one line deep on a lot of these players. And it's like, oh, she plays Mississippi State. You know, like, well, it's just a lot more there and power and, you know, resources behind it. I think another speaking of like character development, I think a layup moving forward for the USGA and for, you know, NBC golf channel is treating the course as a character. And I think looking at, you know,

Aaron Hills, like shit, if you're into golf course architecture, and you want to see world-class golf on it, like tune in tomorrow, right? I think if looking at Riviera next year, Inverness, the year after Oakmont, Pioneer is number two. So it's like, you know, you know, you got interlock and like, we don't ever get to see that place, Oakland Hills, LACC, Chicago golf club, like, why not have an architect like they used to have Gil Hance on the broadcast when he was with, when Fox did it, why not like they could easily bring somebody in because that's such an element

of this tournament specifically. Like there's big bold slopes. It's a, there's all sorts of different architectural strategy and truly angles going on because there's not as much spin. It's just, it's kind of one of those things of like this is almost the golf that we want to see the men challenged with but they're unable to do so. And so, lean into that right and make it like make that sing. Amen. That's a great point. And you're exactly right there at the end, I was gonna say, highlight that, even if you've seen these venues for men's majors, this is gonna be a different type of golf

that's being played and how does the course, how does that bring out the course or what are those different, you could just poke and prod and drill deep into some of that stuff. Having an architect on is such a no brainer TC. That's a great call. Well, we'll talk more tomorrow, I'm sure, on the Sunday night wrap up. Guys, I think we ended here. Let's go around with some predictions. Unless there's anything else, JP, got any more hot takes you

want to throw out there? Got to save them for tomorrow, big. Okay, I don't mean to rush us out of here, but last thing on the agenda is just to predict the winner tomorrow. Can I put you on the spot, Jordan? You want to go first? You absolutely can. Hinako Shibuno takes a US Women's Open for her second major championship. Wow. Now, she went age.

That would be the two real majors. I was going to say though, hers was not on a link scores her AIG win. Um, but yeah, getting those two would be wonderful. Let's go around here. Cody, who do you have to win? My stark. Love it would be great. Love outfit today i wouldn't mind if she watched that up tonight run it back those are winning colors tomorrow all black with the white nike hat that was sweet uh tc who well i guess you're taking rio are you sticking with taking rio yeah and i think just the underrated element is is how much money is on the line tomorrow even if you don't win is how much money is on the line tomorrow, even if you don't win a $12 million purse. Yeah. Good call. And it's like, what, 2.4 to the winner. And you get, that's five, six X, what a lot of

tournaments week to week on the LPGA Tour payout. And so even if you get a top five, I'll be really curious to see how it plays out. Cause there's some pretty decisive holes and shots where you could probably start protecting the points. There is somebody on the, I was sitting there thinking about like, wow, I think this was when, uh, Tamburlini, I don't know. It's a, how you pronounce her last name. It is.

Yeah. So, you know, she plays full-time L E T.T. and I'm like, oh, okay, thinking like what this, if she, she fell back today, but like what this money, this payout is going to be, and then I was going down the rest of the leaderboard and I'm like, wow, there, there's a ton of Epson players that made the cut, not a ton, but there's like four or five of them, specifically, uh, Hayley, um, yeah, what's her name? Hayley Cooper. And like she plays full time on the Epson tour is sitting in there. A 13 right now. Like that is so much carry her on.

Here's on the Epson tour and not make as much money as you can make tomorrow. You know, Marie Avery, we didn't even talk about, oh man, like her, her house, rental house got broken into her and her boyfriend had to scramble to go to an apartment or a hotel at like three in the morning he takes the wrong travel bag back to LA and she has to play her second round with Gabby's golf clubs like just crazy stories and she played well yesterday with a totally foreign set of golf clubs that's not say that was in total error. They both played on the USC men's and women's team.

So total error for Gavin. Guys, winner pick. I am going to go with, I'm gonna go with Maya Stark. Yeah. I love it. Yes. Okay. Because we did that, I truly. Nobody's going with N start. Yeah, I love it. Yes. Okay. Because we did that, I truly nobody's going to know a heart of hearts.

No, I really want Nelly to win this thing, but I would love it if Nelly won. I think we're, we're honestly tomorrow's conversation is going to be a lot like the norm conversations we have Nelly. I was like, ah, she got close, but you know, she had that double on, she doubled 15. She did what she didn't need to do. And, and we're right back at the same spot, but man, it would be awesome. Do we need to have a hard conversation tomorrow? I think we have to have a harder conversation.

There are a couple of miscut names that I wanted to have perhaps hard conversations around tomorrow night. Um, I almost feel like none of us are, I never picked the winner the night before. So I was almost staying away from Nellie. So I was like, I would love for her to win. I'm sorry to put that word in. Nellie won a major last year. So I think we can get, and she, T2, it's a women's British though, you know, tough scene on 16 there, but I think we can give her till the end of the year before we have to have a tough conversation. I think that's fair. Yeah. I almost picked Roning. I could see Roning shooting 69. And if it's tough,

maybe that's a playoff. It's going to be fun. I'm excited. I mean, she tees off an hour before the final group too. I wish we were going to get a liaison with you, Lamy. Do you guys think so, Nelly in the Nelly's, obviously, draws the final feature group, Ronning and you'll leave me. I think it should be hopefully the final feature. Um, I thought you were saying they should just send them out in subjective order. No, no, no. Should be sick. Nelly's going to draw the biggest crowd. saying they should just send them out in subjective order.

She'll be sick. Nellie's going to draw the biggest crowd. Do you guys think that the obviously DJ was on and did a great job going over view of like the property and stuff? Do you think Nellie's crowd and if she gets momentum, like, will that matter? Or do you think Aaron Hills is just that big of a property that you're like, now, yeah, something's going on back there. But I just don't know if Nellie has like that aura of like, oh, oh, no Nellie's coming. There's a pretty audible roars. I do think if you got it on like nine kind of backs up to 10T and you know, like 11 green 12T. So she's doing stuff there when the leaders are coming through nine, I could, I could maybe see that

that's, that seems like kind of the one spot on the course was there's some serious critical mass. And I know it's not in her nature. So I'm like not holding it against her, but how fun would it see like Nellie like really fist pumping and showing a lot of emotion if she was charging down the back nine tomorrow, wear your heart on your sleeve girlfriend. Like, I think that would get crowds be knowing a lot of emotion if she was charging down the back nine tomorrow. Wear your heart on

your sleeve girlfriend. Like I think that would get crowds going. I just don't think she gives enough to the galleries to like really responding kind sometimes. You know that's kind of why I like Maya because it seems like sometimes it's a

little like over the top but you're going to fist pump for almost everything. Yeah. I think she stands out because like she does give us a moment. Yeah. I think she stands out because like she does want this moment. Yeah. I don't think a lot of these women give you much, quite honestly. Yeah. Do you know who always gives a good fist pump? Who's that? Carlota. Yeah. Can you imagine if Carlota made the cut? Her group was on the clock. I can't believe Sarah made the cut playing with her.

Like that's, again, I know I mentioned it earlier, but yeah, good on Sarah Smezla for making it through that test. Fun to some Ray Fang, the 16 year old, current Loam gets to play with Lydia Codemaro. That's freaking awesome. That's gonna be a bucket list for her. I, that would be a fun feature group as well.

I don't know if they've talked about those yet. Um, well, we mentioned coverage. Yeah, go ahead. T. C. They just need to start like telling her like, Hey, you can't see it up unless you're going to be faster. Like straight up. You just not allowed to like show up. You can enter the tournament someone needs to order a pizza that the real ones will get that one jp all right guys uh let's call it there two to seven eastern tomorrow that's peacock and mbc there's going to be featured group coverage though Peacock USGA app check your local listings We are going to be live following the conclusion of play tomorrow. We're going to of course break down the US women's open

We're going to break down the Memorial tournament. Thank you all for watching on YouTube. Thank you everybody for listening Enjoy the final round. We got a proper golf tournament on our hands. Thank you to TC, DJ. Thank you to our sponsors, Titleist Footjoy, and ourselves, the NLU Pro Shop. Thank you to Cody for running the ones and twos. Anything I'm missing here. Excited for tomorrow, big. Let's go, Lawson.

We'll talk to everybody tomorrow. Cheers.