No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1016: Maja Stark wins the USWO; Scottie claims another Memorial

Episode Date: June 2, 2025

Maja Stark is your 2025 U.S. Women's Open Champion at Erin Hills. Scottie Scheffler wins the Memorial. Join us as we break down a busy week across the globe in golf. Presented by High Noon. Show notes: 00:00 - Start 04:07 - USWO Recap 01:07:20 - The Memorial Recap 01:20:07 - Maja Stark call-ins 01:33:57 - The Memorial Down the Leaderboard 01:38:52 - News and Notes Support our sponsors: High Noon - Suns Up! Titleist - GT Driver DeleteMe Yeti Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club. Be the right club today. Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! better than most expect anything different ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the no laying up live show presented as always by our friends at high noon soli here going around the someone that gets excited to talk about the women's game and the men's game and is gonna have takes on pretty much everything our Favorite we know him as mr. TC. Hello trunk. Oh, that means a lot Weekend yeah

You were you were online this morning like you wanted the the T placements of all the holes on the u.s. Women's open before like I'd even Clean up on the floor. Yeah, they sent me such a passive aggressive like just look at the scorecard. I'm like oh now I gotta go back and compare and contrast that to yesterday. But no, I'm stoked to be here, Sally, and tomorrow is golf's longest day as well. So just keep it rolling into Monday. Springfield Country Club, things of that nature. Well, if the US Women's Open and the memorial, this might be golf's longest show. Cody McBride running the ones and twos. Hello, Cody. Hello, happy to be here, this might be golf's longest show. Cody McBride, running the ones and twos.

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But one thing we walked away from, we knew, you need serious distance and you need spin control. You need to hit the right windows with your ball flight. You need to be able to count on your golf ball to do exactly what you ask it to do. That's why this week at the US Women's Open, 102 players teed up a Pro V1 or Pro V1 X golf ball that is six times the total of the nearest competitor. Yes, I said that right. Six times the total of the nearest competitor.

The champion, Maya Stark, teed up a Pro V1 and claiming her first career major title. It's just, I mean, the control she had on all those approach shots, especially on Sunday, she was pin high the whole time, just almost never threatening to make bogey. Uh, and it was, they did a great job highlighting some of the slopes and why those shots were really difficult and why the golf ball was important in that moment, Morgan would have chalked it up to luck. I would chalk it up partially with the golf ball.

There was some luck in some of that. The, those factors to see, but whether it's a birdie from a divot, you know, whether it's the U S women's open, the winner of the memorial, uh, every player on the winning team of this week's NCA D ones men's championship, plus the NCA individual champion. The list goes on on the game's biggest stages. More players trust performance, quality and consistency of titles, golf balls, than anything else.

Titleist.com number one ball in golf. Randy, take us to Aaron Hills for the United States women's open. Yeah, Iist.com, number one ball in golf. Randy, take us to Erin Hills for the United States Women's Open. Yeah, I thought, gosh, Erin Hills was proper again today. What an afternoon for golf. Congratulations to Maya Stark, the third Swedish woman to win the United States Women's Open behind Lieslette Newman and Annika Sorenstam,

who did it three times, of course. Maya is 25 years old. As Solly said, her first career major championship. This is her second LPGA victory. Her first one on US soil, interestingly enough, she had won six times in Europe. Guys, this was a coming out party. We are, you know, I think we should get our biases out of the way. We're big fans of Maya Stark. Actually, Cody, TC, and myself got a chance to play in a Pro-Am with Maya out at Harding Park ahead of the, gosh, what year was that? Was that 2023? It was. International Crown event. Just had the best day.

The weather was crappy that day, but Maya could not have been any nicer, any more enjoyable to chat with. So since that time, I think we've all left that day just rooting for Maya and also quite frankly, expecting big things out of her. She had made a couple of Solheim Cup teams, her first being 2023. She played last year again, 2024.

Um, somebody that put herself in contention at Chevron in 2024 with a runner up. But this was the big breakthrough. And I just really, really impressed with the way she went about it today. Obviously there were nerves. I mean, she, she admitted as much, not only yesterday in her post-round presser, Saturday's post-round presser, but also in her presser accepting the trophy today. I mean, it's not easy to close one of these things. 54-hold leaders have not had, um,

a lot of success closing U S women's opens. And she played just steady golf a couple late bogeys that I think are gonna make things look a little closer than they appear but you guys tell me like I just am she just won it like I she just hit every shot she needed to um she you know she got a couple bounces she fought through a few bad bounces. Soly, I mean, what's your big takeaway with Maya Stark? Well, I think if you tune into the only the back nine today and watched it, you probably weren't blown away by you know, it wasn't necessarily exciting finish. But at the same time, it

gave if you watched a lot of the week, you would gain an extra level of appreciation for the difficulty of all the shots that she was hitting. And you watched all these other players fall off at different moments, watch all these other players struggle on the greens not be able to hit putts with any confidence. Speaking of the nervousness that comes into that final round, you know, like a reason for that is the question that the golf course is asking, like it is a very, very, very different test than what they

see weekend and week out on the LPGA tour. Very different style test than what we see weekend and week out on the PGA tour. It asks questions about control of your golf ball on the 18th hole with shots to play with. She is somewhat freaking out probably about a putt from off the green aiming 40 50 waiting half an hour. Yeah, aiming 40 50 feet away from the pin on a putt from just off the green. That is I gotta hate to use this line. But like if you haven't played it sucks if you can't appreciate that. You know, if you haven't

actually been there to hit these shots, like how difficult they actually are. I hope that comes through. On the broadcast. There was just a layer of appreciation for all that watching it the whole week knowing how ridiculous this green is. It's one of the most frightening greens I've ever seen. The first time we played it in the club championship, I'd never seen it before, hit a wedge on the green, didn't think anything of it. And I was freaking out coming into Day 2 because you can literally, if there's a hole out there where you can make a quad to lose a United States women's open,'s this green right here because you can't if you don't get it up in the middle of that green You're just gonna ping pong it back and forth as we saw there from the in that final pair Sally we talked a lot last night about how The LPGA week-to-week setups like don't don't identify the best player a lot or don't don't do a good job of identifying the best Player or so, you know separating good shots from great shots or bad shots from good shots. I have more respect for this win from Maya than I do most other, I would say 60, 70%

of other women's major championship wins in recent memory just because this was a proper setup. They had to, it was a mental test as well as an execution test. You know, as well as a patience test and discipline like 100% slow out there. It was, it's just a big ballpark. It's a tough course to set up. I would imagine for the ladies of like they could, they could have messed this up pretty bad up. They got close on 15. They tried they pushed it to the edge. You guys got to tip their cap to them. I respect the hell out of them. Yeah, like I was telling Randy last night, I felt like this was the first first like really,

really like, you know, pioneers last year and but but and hopefully what we're gonna get at Oakmont like it felt like a true US Open in the best, most classic sense of the word. But without being one note of narrow fairways and all of that, it was a great mix of what we love about modern golf course architecture and design and angles and strategy and all of that, while also penal in the right spots. You saw that on 18. You saw that on 14, on 15 today, on six. And it was one that the right shot wasn't obvious as we saw on Saturday with the back right pin, the team moved up, players bombing it onto the left side of the green and just

didn't somebody hit the green to make eight? Esther Enslip, what did she... Yeah, Friday. You were truly screwed on the left side of that green to a point where I don't know how that's don't know how that's not in the scouting report, but I know the green speeds change from, from Friday to Saturday sped up by at least a foot. Like that changed the whole outlook of the golf term. And that adds another layer of like who's in control of their golf ball, not just who can hit it near the green and figure it out. And that's what a lot of pro golf kind of ends up being is if you can hit it near the green and your rough is there to stop it, and the contouring is not severe enough to actually punish you, it takes a lot of the strategy and a lot of the important elements out of it. And this tournament had all of that, man. I really, really

enjoyed watching it. Sully, I think too, there's spots at Aaron Hills. We saw it on 14 a couple times today. You can see it on 10. There's spots where you know you have a bank or an off ramp to use. If you get too far up that, your ball's going to run off the front of the green. And, you know, like we saw it on 14, a bunch where, you know, balls were running back into those bunkers. And it's just,, it's like you can, there's nuance, even when you're bailing out or even when you're using the stuff that's gonna help you. So yeah, props to the USGA for the green speeds.

I thought they were perfect. And just everything that you guys are saying, just to drill down into Maya's round, she started the day with a one shot lead over Julia Ramirez Lopez. And Maya went out. I thought the second hole was pretty important for Maya. She hit not a great second shot,

but the pin was very far back on number two, which is another one of those diabolical greens. Her approach came up short, rolled off the front and left her an early chip, right? Just a nervy chip. I thought we were gonna find out a lot about Maya for today based on that shot. We saw her the day before.

She chipped one from across the second green into the bunker. And she hits this delicate little chip with a bit of backspin on it. It checks up and it rolls to about three feet. She makes a par. And I just thought, I thought,

you know, shout out Yeti coldest moment, but like that was the point in the round where I'm like, oh, okay, she's not super jittery. She's not overly nervous. She would go on to make par on that second hole. She would par the first five holes. She ran in a 20 footer for birdie on number six. And I thought finding a birdie before her first bogey

was a very important thing, certainly in hindsight. But when you're going into a tough test, a US Open test with a lead, it can be really hard to keep your foot on the gas. And things did tighten up around the turn. Nellie was one back at one point. A couple of the Japanese women were one shot back, but Maya never fell out of first place all throughout the round. And I thought that was super impressive. The other big moment, if we're kind of going through her scorecard was I had mentioned Nelly went out. I believe Nelly was two under on the front nine

and had gotten it to within one of Maya. And Nelly's playing the 13th, Maya's playing the 11th. And essentially a two-shot swing happens pretty simultaneously. Maya rolls in another really impressive, I don't have the distance, but you know, probably a 15, 20 foot birdie putt. Nellie makes a bad bogey on 13,

misses like a four foot, nine inch par putt, and all of a sudden that lead gets back out to three shots, and from there, I mean, it was just a, it was a bit clinical coming in from Maya. Like I never would have guessed she was trying to close her first major. And again, just props to her. This was a difficult, I mean, this was a true US Open test. I was just very impressed with her all day. She had a great, great two putt on 10.

And then the birdie on 11 was nails. That was awesome. Great shot into 12. And it was like, you know, that was the stretch where it was like, she's doing this thing. That was what you got to the back. And I will say, and I know they were harping on maybe a bit too much, but you got some good fortune on that front nine.

She had a ball inexplicably bounce over a bunker on the fifth hole, pinned it into six, like the perfect fin shot into the false front that skirted up and added to a bird, ended up becoming a birdie. And then the bounce on 14 was, man, a lot of different things could have happened with that shot into 14, and that could not have worked out better. I feel like if it takes a softer bounce, she's front left on the green or left side of the green. She did then one into 15. But again, I think a lot of our misses as well. We're in the right spots. Yeah, she played really smart golf. And if you

look at her statistical profile, which, again, thank you to the USGA because we rarely ever get to do this with like women's golf, like half an objective analysis of it. Like she was just really well balanced the entire week as far as her stats. It was, she was 20th in strokes, gained off the tee, fourth in strokes, gained approach, fifth in putting. It was just, it was just good golf all around.

Yeah. Really good golf. It'd been a cool tournament to be there in person. And I'm, and I'm jealous of, of somebody we have waiting in the wings who I believe has a lovely lanyard hanging from his neck as he's calling in from aaron hills. Mr. DJ pie. Hello pie man Gentlemen, how we doing? Uh, it is it is a great great evening to be out here at aaron hills I'm sitting up in the the first tee grandstand looking out over the beautiful first hole. Uh, what an afternoon guys great to be with you There's and be with you.

And also with you, DJ. What was the highlight of what you saw today? Man, you know what, it was a weird day because I feel like you guys know what it's like being at golf tournaments. You're always kind of bouncing around looking for the juice, right? You don't want to miss a shot. And I feel like I didn't see a lot of highlights out there

and I don't think that's necessarily a negative. I think it just kind of sums up what you guys were just saying about Maya Stark. You know, it was like a lot of people, you know, not necessarily stuck in neutral, but just couldn't really, you know, it's baseball season, couldn't get a big hit out there. And so it was a lot of kind of waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting. And then you kind of realize sitting behind 15 green there that you're just like, man, Maya has just like absolutely put this thing on ice and that's it. So it was kind of the sum of the parts maybe,

I guess kind of a culmination of Aaron Hills, a place that I love. I know you guys love, you know, the spin on the calendar for a long time. So kind of a cop out answer. I'll say the best thing I saw was just kind of the whole thing coming to fruition today. The course playing the way it was supposed to play Proper us open people playing away from pins people getting ejected people hitting great hero shots

It was kind of everything you're you're hoping for so I don't know. It's kind of a roundabout answer I don't really have a go-to, you know one shot. I saw these I think best thing I saw that was pretty But I was kind of pessimistic was your your lanyard you look like team Rose after he won them the man, here's a medal for you too. They gave one to the ground staff, they gave one to the caddy, they said there was one media guy out there trudging around, let's give him a medal as well. Dej, we touched on it a little bit in the Saturday night show, but I think it bears repeating and mentioning, you know, Aaron Hills is near and dear to your heart. You've played it more than any of us have played it. You live near it. I think it's a shame looking back on the US Open it hosted. I don't think we got to see how Aaron Hills was meant to play.

I don't think we saw a fully realized version of Aaron Hills. And maybe it wasn't quite that way either through the first couple rounds all in all. But I'm just so happy and I guess my question to you is like these last two days, right? Saturday, Sunday, I feel like this is Aaron Hills, right? Like when we go tell people Aaron Hills is sweet, it's sick, like it's a great golf course. I just, I hope people were watching yesterday and today because I just cannot imagine Aaron Hills like shining any brighter.

Well, that's great to hear that it came through on TV because that's definitely how it feels on the ground. And I even would say like, I don't know if there's any, if I'm looking at any flags, like that's how hard the wind's blowing right now. So that's almost the thing that's, you know, if you were going to pick nits is like, it almost didn't, like they, this is what happened at the US Open knits is like, it almost didn't

like they this is what happened at the US Open two is like they just didn't get any wind and I think for the women's game and the scale that it plays at and the spin rates that it plays at and the speeds that they have the greens and the firmness they have the greens like you were still able to get a like premium championship, which you probably wouldn't have been able to do. If this was the men's US Open playing over the same days, because it would have been an absolute dart fest with no wind, which is what we saw seven years ago, eight years ago. And so it's just a, I don't know, it's the point that I think a lot of us make on this

podcast a lot is like, there are kind of men's venues and women's venues. And it's like, I shouldn't even say that. There's different scales of venues that I think work much better for the women's game than they do for the men's game these days. And I think this was a premium example of that just because the wind didn't blow. But to your point, Big, it's like,

yeah, I asked Maya Stark in the press conference, like, hey, can you just kind of sum up, like, what is this setup versus what you guys see every, you know, every week? And I don't know if they played it in the press or on TV, or if you guys heard this already, but her, her answers were like, you know, just exactly what what we want to hear. It was like, man, I just, you know, usually week to week, like, you can kind of sleepwalk through a few holes, like, you

don't really have to think that much. And here, like you had to think on like every shot. And she's like, you saw it on like 18. She's like, I was playing like 30 meters away from the pin. Like that never happens ever. And then I'm like, I, you know, I believe it shorter green and then I'm putting it like 50 feet away from the pin. Like that doesn't ever happen.

And it was just really cool to hear her talk about like the chess match out there, because I think that's, I think it's pretty rare in, in the women's game. And I'm really glad they got to see it. And again, I mean, we've talked about it a million times. Well, true, of course. But you know, we've talked about a million times, but like, they're going to see it at Riv, they're going to see it at, you know, Oakmont, they're going to see it at all these other places that the U S women's opens go in the next couple of years as well. So Sally, there's, I mean, like, I wouldS. Women's Open is going in the next couple of years as well. So.

Sorry, there's, I mean, like I would say if there's a big criticism of the LPGA tour, it's like the way that they set up golf courses, like the PGA tour, there's some really good setups out there and some good courses. Like there's one, if there's one thing other than like the TV product or the app that the new commissioner needs to focus on, it's like, you know, more thoughtful venues, which I know is, is tough. It's there's a lot that goes into that. And it's, it's just better setups to to like identify the Nellie's and the Maya Starks that like,

the week to week setup just totally gives away some of their advantage. No, I meant more of just like, all she was talking about with that putted 18 was Oh, yeah, don't like, I don't want to hear why do you guys hate quail so much? It's like that right there, that right there. Because that's what I was locked in all weekend. That's the shit I'm into because of the golf course and the ladies and I think, indeed, I think like to Aaron Hills is credit as well. It's really early in the season. The course still played wonderfully. Like it's, you know, I can't believe it, man. It looks like it's, yeah, it looks like it's all right. I can attest. It's nuts. Deidre. I mean, you can obviously attest it's been a shitty spring and we were up early this past week in Milwaukee filming and, uh, talk to some supers that were helping out at Aaron Hills. And honestly,

you guys know I'm the biggest super supporter there is. I support the superintendents. Like kudos to them because the weather that has been in and around Milwaukee thus far, where they got the course is really impressive. Yeah, a thousand percent. Yeah, it's great. And I think the other thing is like, there's a lot of courses in this area of the country that kind of look like this. You know, when you roll up to the gates, they're big properties and they seem like they play the ball on the ground and they really don't.

And out at Aaron, like you guys know from watching the telecast, like the ball's on the ground a lot. That is half or more than half of the challenge out here is just you don't know what's going to happen. Yeah. That's the whole fun of watching. Exactly. Yeah. Did you said it well last night, too, of just like being able to go to a tournament and not baking the sun all day or go park on site or do stuff like that. Like I think if the like if the PGA tour wants to improve their TV product, look at taking one of the events

that jumps around a little bit, look at taking it to Aaron Hills in August. It would be killer. Totally. Any comment on the crowd out there? There was some chirping on the social media app, the X. I don't know if you're familiar with it. Yeah, everything, yeah.

Lack of energy kind of out there. I know it's a big property. You were out there Saturday and Sunday. Can you compare the crowds both days? Did it come through? It didn't come through great on the telecast, I'll say today. Sure. I would say two things. This place is about five billion acres. Hard, hard, hard to make this place look full. You know, I'm sure there could have been more people. I think a lot of it was like, it's really hard to express just how much

every single person I ran into today wanted Nelly to win. Everybody who's here is out there following Nelly. The media people all want Nelly. NBC probably wants Nelly. The trophy engraver wants Nelly. The people at the club want Nelly. Like, I mean, it was, so I think a lot, lot, lot of the juice was hoovered up by that group,

which I think is fair and happens in the men's game as well. It did leave Maya Stark in kind of a stinky spot, right? I mean, like trying to chase down a US women's open in the final group and like, it wasn't a ton of fans out there straight up. I think that's that's fair. Also, like you guys have been out here. It's like five miles to get out to, you know, 14, 15, 16, like some of the coolest holes on the property. So yeah, I don't that's not an apology.

That's just kind of stating some of the realities of of this venue. So anybody who was complaining on X the everything app tickets were still available. So you guys you guys could have come out and supported the women's game. You know, I didn't see any of those guys out here. Well, I certainly would have rather been out there than listening to Morgan and Tom and the gang on. Okay, we got some hamster damn stuff. Hang on to that. Deidre, you mentioned the venues or somebody mentioned, you mentioned, venues certainly matter.

Mike Wan led with it in his speech. Next year they're going to Riviera, Inverness, Oakmont, Pinehurst, Interlochen, I think LACC, Chicago, Marion, all on the docket in coming years. My question to you, I would love to see this championship, at least for the women, come back to Erin Hills. There are no future dates back at Erin Hills as it stands right now, but I guess not only DJ, but TC, Solly, like this feels like a great venue for the United States Women's Open to me.

I agree. I mean, I hope that they do come back. I'm sure that, you know, I don't know, I haven't I haven't talked to enough USG people about this. I wonder if they're trying to set up a somewhat similar anchor site type of mentality with the women like they're trying to do with the men. If that is the Oakmont's Pebbles, you know, Riviera's like if that's those types of golf courses, I would understand it. But I hope there is kind of a Midwest anchor site in that Rota. And I think Aaron Hills fits the bill. The way that all the tournament organizers talk about this place and how easy it is to have a championship here, I think certainly bodes well.

The turnout was was pretty good. All jokes aside, I mean, I seemed like there was a lot of walk-up traffic, the weather was great. So I'm with you, Big. I hope that the players seemed to really dig it and how different it was to the week-to-week challenge. So hopefully there's more to come. But if it's not, the US Women's Open or the US Open or anything like that, I mean, I think there's four USGA championships still on the books to be hosted at Aaron Hills, whether it's like, I think it's a, what is it? US Junior, maybe a US amateur down the road.

I think a four ball, there's a couple of, there's definitely a couple more USGA championships on the books. So it's a friendly site for sure. Deeds, I got good news and bad news. The good news is, you know, bangers only, like you said, Oakmont, Shinnecock, Pebble. Although I'm a little bit worried about the crowds out in LA. They don't really turn out for the men.

I can't imagine what we see at RIV and LACC. But the next, the bad news is the next opening is 2037. And then after that, 39 and then 4143. So they're there. The farthest one that they've announced out is 2048. Even if it's not an anchor site. I'm holding every calendar TC. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I got 2027. US amateur four ball is going there. We have sorry, there's stupid website, Nikki scroll,

the ball might be too short for the women to go there in the US women's amateur four ball in 2030 US women's am 2033 2035 US amateur 2039 US Jr. So they're gonna be around a lot of high level golf out here at Aaron Hills to come over the next decade. Charlie might be in that US junior. I know, but it might be taken on Freddie, depending on how, you know, Freddie still has eligibility left or where he's at. I saw he was beating up the PGA junior league.

Yeah, back to back weeks, man. Or back to back days. They won today again. So, Deidre, I thought you said it great yesterday too, like where you were talking about this tournament felt like going to the British open more than it felt like going to, you know, a U S open or, or, or like a LPGA event. And it like, it just felt big too, with like the USDA branding and everything. They do such a good job of staging an event with the flags and the grandstands and the T markers and the flag. Like everything is just, it feels big and grand and prestigious. So it really does. It really, really does. And I think what's kind of crazy about the USGA is

how if we're looking back, I mean, it's kind of funny going back to Oakmont this year, because I would say that that Dustin Johnson US Open was probably peak like the USGA or clowns era and It's just funny what you know, what was that seven years ago or so? It's funny what like over seven years at least just speaking personally how my perception has changed a Wow, really 2016 just walks into the ocean But it's funny how well listen there less than. But it's funny how, well, listen there, less than a decade. It's funny how less than a decade,

what my perception of the organization is, which is coming to these championships and just seeing this stuff they care about. I know some of this can feel like window dressing, but here in Mike Wan, talk afterwards about the stuff that they're prioritizing, seeing the way they treat the women's open, you know, pretty much the same as the men's open, seeing the purse increases, seeing what they do at the US junior and the way they stage like all these these

tournaments consistently. It's like, I don't know, man, I hate to get do it like in a backhanded way. But you kind of look at that versus like the PGA of America or, you know, the way that they kind of treat their organization, which is like smash the windows of the Ryder Cup, grab as much fucking money as you can. And like, we'll see everybody in four years is kind of how it ends up feeling, I think to to the golf fan. And I just don't feel that with USGA. And I think then you layer in all the equipment stuff, you layer in the testing stuff, you layer in all the like, I don't know, maybe it's

just me like, getting gray hair and getting older. But I'm like, you know, somebody should be looking out for like the game, right? Like, and I think that they're they're good stewards of that. So I don't know, maybe I sound like an old, funny daddy these days. But it's it's kind of heartwarming to see it in person. It was way more fun to just rip on them back in the day. I know. Cock and

pros man. Speak for yourself. And the only thing I'll say to balance it out would just be shout out to Meyer Stark. All right. That's tough. That's a tough walk off too. I mean, I guess he's got Oakmont, but he's in his last year. You know, it was a contract year. You can't be doing that stuff. Uh, out out scooter, Scheffler, a couple, a couple of quick things just from the press conference.

I don't know if you guys touched on this yet, but I, I will issue a mea culpa on getting completely rope adoped by Maya Stark and some of her comments and seeing some of her chipping action and some of the things I was talking about yesterday, she seemed, I don't know if she had confidence issues or or what if she it was kind of one of those situations it seems like where her perception of her own game just like was woefully mismatched with her talent level and so it was really fun to hear her in the press conference afterwards talk about like how nervous she was doing little like there's something I was thinking about listening to her talk like, it's great when you get an interview in a second language, in like somebody's

second language, I think, because it really distills down just like exactly what they're trying to say. There's no nuance, or cliches or beating around the bush. She's just like giving very real tips where she's like, I have so much tension in my body that I finally was able to figure out if I hover the club a little bit before I pull it back, some of the tension goes away. And I'm like that like somebody trying to win a major championship. It's so sick. And she was talking about like the putting tips her coach was giving her this week and how she's like, yeah, I just haven't this bad tendency to like, look at the whole like he said, I'm, I think the word he used was too curious. I'm too curious about where the putts going.

So I like I look at the pot right away and I just I yanked my whole shoulder out and I had to work on that and I ended up putting better. And she was talking about how her caddy Jeff I think is his name. They've only been together for like a couple weeks or a couple months now and she was talking about how he used to be a stand-up comedian and to keep her loose because she gets so like tense and kind of like locked up out there. He would just tell these jokes that would take like three or four holes to get to the punch line. So he would just drag them out and drag about and drag about. It was like, I just really, really love that kind of stuff. And like seeing how I refuse Irish or Scottish, I couldn't place his accent, but just seeing how like two people from totally different mindsets, totally different kind of like cultural bents, just make it work

out there was that was another highlight from today. It was really Gigi Scottish. Check it out. You're Monty, according to really Cody. Cody was about that. Yeah. Well, he was. Yeah, he was pumped that he said he'd had a lot of great moments, but he got a little choked up.

He couldn't believe he was he was, you know, on the bag for a US Open champion. And he was doing all this as he was wearing like a Wisconsin cheesehead, which was also very funny. So it was just a great, great moment moment getting to get a little humanity from him. Dude, shout out to your guy Rob Jansen wearing the red jacket for his background there. He was very nervous. He was asking yesterday, he's like, I don't know, man, should I wear the dark, the Navy jacket and blend in or should I wear like the WSGA red jacket? I mean, you got to wear the red jacket, man, for sure. And then also just to your point on, on Maya being really curious

of like, where the putz gonna go. I feel like that's the exact opposite of Nelly. Like Nelly's terrified to find out where the putz gonna go. Now, that was that was I mean, yeah, you kind of hit me with like, what was the highlight of the day? And I didn't have a great answer. The low light of the day, I walked with Nelly for most of it. And like I said, everybody on the property is just like, you can just like feel trying to like will her into the hole. And

it just got it like wasn't close. It wasn't close. Some bad putz and she just like, gosh, struck the shit out of it and played really good golf into a lot of really good spots. And just man, it just was not the day with the putter, which, you know. Question for you. If that shot goes in on 14, like she almost made a two on the par five. Yeah, that shot goes in.

Do you think she wins or do you think she still loses? That would put her one back. I you know what, I I'm going to double down on my take and say that I think she wins in a playoff because I think that forces Maya to have to chip on 18 instead of playing out 50 feet right. And I think she ends up making that bogey anyways, and they go to a playoff. I think Nellie beats her with all the home ground support, which was another takeaway. Sorry, real quick, I'm getting out. But another big takeaway was just watching Rio Takeda, watching Shibuno, watching some of these players

and just like really having it click that on a US dominated tour, some of the best players are underdogs, like every week. That's that's a really interesting dynamic is that, you know, there's just world class players and major championships and every city they go to like they're probably not they have a small collection of, you know, Japanese or Thai or Chinese fans, but it's it's a lot of Americans rooting for Americans. And that's just kind of an interesting dynamic

There's Robin his red coat by the way can you see it? You can see him anywhere Any any party thoughts deeds before we let you go no just a great great week at Aaron Hills And I hope everybody had a good time tuning in and great great to be with you guys These don't have me, but I think this is a far better Ryder Cup venue than Whistling Straits. I was on that block four years ago when I played here one time. I don't get it.

Whistling Straits is a bloodbath to walk around. Aaron Hills is like, it's a long walk and there's a lot of space, but like, it couldn't be easier to see. And there's so many Hills and I could not agree. Of course. Could not agree with you more. It would be like, it would win that match like seven and six against Wisconsin Straits. It's not going to the best venues for this event but you know, a dare man or a side.

Did they run that? Yeah, a dare is going to be sweet. But think about all the corporate hospitality space too. That's what I'm saying. They're not. There's gonna be sweet. But think about all the corporate hospitality space too. That's what I'm saying. They're not they're not in it for the right reasons. It's so big. It's so big. Each we're gonna let you go. Thank you so much. Safe travels

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That's NLU to 64000 message and data rates may apply welcome delete me we're gonna have some fun with uh sorry I feel like I feel like Julio Lopez Ramirez used delete me to get herself off the leaderboard at the end guys we kind of beat around the bush there but uh around the horse yeah beat around the horse excuse me me Nelly Korda We mentioned her I think everybody there wanted Nelly to win from people on the ground to obviously the commentary team will get to that later but another

Disappointing finish, but I think she went about it the way that we kind of wanted her too big I don't know how if you have any thoughts there. I do I I have a few thoughts. One, just to put a fine point on the putting, if you go into the weekend, Nellie lost about, what'd she lose? Strokes gained putting today was a three quarters of a, of a shot yesterday, two shots. Okay. So I don't know, call it not quite three shots. She lost putting to the field over the weekend, compare with Maya Stark, who on Saturday gained 3.7 strokes putting and today gained another 1.37.

So you almost have like an eight stroke difference there in just the putting between Maya and Nellie. Nellie hit the ball beautifully. I wanna retire. Nellie's not a dome golfer. I don't think it's fair criticism to call Nellie a dome golfer. She played great except for one swing last year

at the old course in some not great conditions. She hit the ball fabulously this week. Certainly good enough to win this championship. I think what we can say definitively is Nellie's putter is a real problem and I think it's anchoring her. I think it clearly cost her this championship and anchoring her figuratively not not She's not anchoring the putter. She's not anchoring the putter, but maybe she should go to a long putter and You know quasi anchor it I that's my big takeaway is Even going the back the last few years like if Nellie putted like a top 30 person,

which isn't like, that's obviously really good putting, she would have a few more majors if she was just able to putt the ball better than she has been. So I guess Cody, that's where I, I don't want to, I don't think it's fair to Nellie to call her a dome golfer or she only shows up when the conditions are easy. I thought this week, I thought last year at St. Andrews, I think that that's been put to rest. She got off to the start that we wanted birdie right out of the gate, couple pars got to six first bogey, but then immediately bounced back with birdies at seven and eight really get birdie at eight and then made the turn and we're

like, okay, this is going to be a championship. It's, it's finally going to happen. And it's just like, she has no confidence. I sent in our slack. I was like, you know what? It's crazy that she's the number one player in the world and has been for almost two complete years now. And like she, there's just no intimidating factor at all. Like when she stands over a putt, I'm like, yeah, there's like, she's not going to make it. So what do you think Maya and the rest of them, they're just like, well, yeah, like all she had to do was shoot even part. And that's exactly what she did. And she's like, I'm going to win this. Cause I don't think Nellie is a golfer right now who's going to like run somebody down. And it's crazy. TC, you talked a lot about how she looked out there.

Any thoughts? Yeah, I just think, you know, she just looked defeated. Like she's hidden. She's hidden great shot, great golf shot after great golf shot. And you can tell after like the first few holes, she just looked like somebody kicked her dog or something, or, you know, kicked her horse, right? So and you know, beat her horse. You know, I think, like, I know that feeling I lived that life for like, that was my whole high school career was like, hitting green after green and having like 38 or 40 putts and around it sucks. But also like, yeah, and she's that is my game, world class golf. But I think also like the greens had slope on them. Right? Like you got a pot

well, you got to read the greens well. And like, it didn't seem like she did either. Like some of the puts looked like she was hitting them with like the freaking head cover on the speed was so bad. This is a test. I mean, these greens are a test of your putting skill. I mean, that sounds silly, but like, you know, technically every week your putting skill gets tested. Not like this.

I mean, straight up, like when I go play competitive golf tournaments and greens look like this See ya I'm ejected like it is meant to expose a person that putts like me. I just I'm not I'm not built for that I'm not that dude and it like it's I do find it somewhat relatable as you mentioned DC Like watch her kind of like those putts were not close and it's not like she's not relatable anymore. I'm a different person these days Fine. Well, I'd still like to see you on green speeds like that in competition and see what would happen there. But it's not like I'm talking, we're not talking like missed four footers. That's not really the main concern. It's like

completely uncompetitive 15 footers. I believe she finished two for 17 from putts between 10 and 15 feet. I don't know where it was in the whole. Yeah. And quite honestly, it looked like she was, I granted Erin Hills, you have to maybe lag a couple of those, but even the ones that were like,

she just hit some putts where I'm like, is she lagging this from like 12 feet? Like, what are we doing? It didn't look like competitive. Like how is she not trying to claw or something else? Like it's kind of like where Scottie was a few years ago, or it's like, dude, just just try something else. Introduce a variable.

I mean she has she bounces back and forth between those putter heads all the time. That's kind of been the issue this year is that she putted so well with her like traditional answer style putter last year and now she's back in the mallet and we went from a lighter mallet to a heavier mallet and like it's nothing's working. It's still to me it's like I've always felt this too in tournaments where like there is no you can't like prepare for what happened this weekend like there's no greens that are maintained like that anywhere in the world. Like they push them for a select few tournaments, like honestly, you're better off putting on like a hardwood floor to try to get like your stroke dialed for greens of that speed because

it's just, it's not nearly the same thing as putting on a putting green even the putting green at the actual championship, I guarantee you did not compare to what those greens were like out there. Yeah, I think so. I don't know, just the putting in general this week was not, not great. don't know, just the putting in general this week was not great. The caddying and the putting were tough, it looked like. Maybe she needs to be like big tone and putt one handed.

We'll get to that. Guys come. Yeah. Y'all are in trouble. So I, yeah, this is, I think this is low key very disappointing for Nelly. She kudos to her. She gave a brief interview after the round.

She was actually like in pretty good spirits. I was a little surprised by, yeah, she was just like, oh yeah, you know, I missed some shots, you know, it was good week. But God, going back to St. Andrews to close 2024. She had a real shot to win that. II thought this week she's gonna look back and be like I hit the ball. I mean she was top ten and off the tee. She was top ten approach. She was top ten around the greens. It was it was simply the putter. Um this was a big missed opportunity for her. Guys, she

hit twenty-seven of twenty-eight fairways on the weekend. Yeah. She missed 28 fairways on the weekend. Yeah, she missed one fairway on the weekend. That was today. And like what like top three longest players in the field? She was driving distance. Yeah, crazy. Yeah, you know, same deal with Lynn to Lynn. Lynn couldn't make a putt to save her. Like she couldn't throw in the ocean today either.

So a lot, a lot of short putts out there. She couldn't throw in the ocean today either. So a lot, a lot of short putts out there. I mean, Mao, there are all of them. I think real quick on Nellie is that I think I was really proud of her coming down the back nine being super aggressive at 14, hit the shot like when she needed it most. And didn't go out of there come out of there were three but walked away with birdie that's fine 15 play that eagle putt was like horrible though like that was part of the you know that's that's the issue the whole yeah but i think other times we've seen her like not take the aggressive line even on 18 like a disaster right of what ended up happening in a bogey there but like hit the shot because

she needed, she was trying to make something happen. And most of the time you don't really see Nellie doing that. Yeah. Yeah. She has a superpower. It's her ball striking, especially off the tee. So like her floor is incredibly high

for a tournament like this. And like, again, it was asking a different question. And I didn't feel like she passed. I know she finished second and is very close to winning, but it still did not feel like a passing grade to me. That's incredibly harsh, but it just did not have the finesse she needed. Robert Leonard 07.05.00 Didn't Sevenwood feel like a lot of stick into 18? Robert Leonard 07.05.00 I think her bag setup is like she has seven wood then she has a four hybrid. How can you five iron?

I don't think she could get hybrid there. I'm not sure anybody was getting it close to that hole. Like that seemed like let's play it out right. Let's use the chipping game that's been exceptional all week and get up and down for birdie. I don't know already.ing out your top 10. Let me round out the top 10 and we can drill in anywhere you guys want to. Nellie Korda tied for second. She tied with Rio Takada who shot a final round. Sorry, Poush. Shot her final round 72. Heejin Choi went out early, posted a 4 under 68. She was part of the group tied for four at four under running.

Yin was part of that group. Mal Sigo disappointing weekend for her. Still a top four finish, uh, tied for seven Tanaka Shibuno was, she was one of the women. She was, I think one back at some point she was God was saying, hitting some of the clunkiest irons but just yeah she knows how to get the ball in the hole especially majors she's awesome I mean I I love it whenever she's in contention her magic ran out down the stretch she had a tough double at 15 and then bogeyed 18 um also tied for seventh Haley Cooper guys. This is a name I candidly did not know.

Just want to give her a quick shout out. She plays on the Epson Tour. She graduated 2023 from Texas A&M. I just get a kick out of this. Her career Epson Tour winnings are 108,000 to this point. And I should mention she's eighth in this year's race for the LPGA. Today she took home about three hundred and fifty eight thousand. So she great, great week for Haley Cooper.

And then see real quick, do you feel vindicated on fit on the 15th hole after what happened in the club championship for what we saw this week? A little bit. And like I was trying to do the right stuff. I was laying up and I just I just didn't execute. I felt like it was it was the I just, I just didn't execute. I felt like it was, it was the right strategy. I just didn't execute. But yeah, 15 was, was awesome. I also shout out Sherbuno. She lost strokes approach play this week and still finished T7, which is remarkable. Her short game let her down today. She's, she's got a great short game. I should mention too,

with the tied for seventh, Haley Cooper has qualified next year at RIV. So that's a great thing for her. And then finally, three women tied for ninth at two under par, Aria Jutanigarn, Angel Yin, good week for her, and Ling Grant. TC, we got a Twitter question that I would like to pose for to you is from at Sir Bogies a lot. Just wondering how will Tron defend Lynn Grant today? Do you have any comment to Sir Bogies a lot? I mean, she made four birdies on the front nine. That's not nothing. Birdied one, four, seven, and nine. Really good birdie on nine. Pretty good golf from 10 10 through 14 just couldn't make a putt. And, you know, I, I think it's, it's good to see her starting to play some good golf. Um, but you know,

she's got a long way to go until she's winning these things. I just don't feel like she can sustain it for bursts that are longer than like 27 holes. That's big of you TC. Thank you for that. I thought I was gonna have to bring you down off on Lynn Graham, but some volatility in her game. I mean, she made a mess of three. The other thing that's crazy about Lynn is that she hits such a like powerful draw,

but hits like these super weak cut putts, you're like, what are you doing? No putt is gonna go in. Well, she she actually gained strokes putting this week and her chipping was god-awful she was like, you know bottom percentile in that so Not good. She was second strokes hand off the t tenth approach play like great course for her Do you know what? Well, I think the next major is a really really good golf course for Frisco East is Like prime she's gonna just hit that big powerful draw out there where like there's no real trouble on the left-hand side. It doesn't really have to,

you know, chip or anything and can putt everywhere. Yeah. Um, gosh, I guess at this point, TC, do you, should we go down the leaderboard quickly? We can shout some people out. Yeah. You know, Charlie t 12, not didn't really get anything going momentum wise this week, but turned it around for, you know, solid, solid t 12. She was under par both rounds on the weekend Hannah green. I think she's gonna, she might snag a couple of these US women's opens on the line. Like I think she's going to she might snag a couple of these US women's opens on the line.

Like I think she's exactly the kind of player that this thing suits. Jenny Young Co played played mostly good golf. You let me know tough weekend, but she was she was out there doing it. Yeah, she was doing it Thursday, Friday. Sarah Schmelzel, tough weekend. I thought she was going to play better today. Put her letter down yesterday and then I didn't see a lot of her today. Again, I think the one that should feel like this thing got away and her fellow Swede won it, Madeline Sagstrom,

shot 71 today, finished T19, got 77 on Saturday. And that's, you know, like she should have been right in this mix. So otherwise, this mix so uh otherwise not a whole lot not a whole lot to report ladi woad low low amateur yeah i'll say sorry before we get to ladi t22 shot 77 today i was disappointed with minji lee i i thought she would you know i thought she would have a good day today you know i i didn't know i didn't think she would win, but man, didn't see 77 coming today. Actually, Randy, one more. Chiara Romero got 84 yesterday. She shot 67 today. Hell yeah. Round of the day.

So that's some petty stuff there. She made a birdie on 15 today after she was one of the train wrecks. She made an eight after hitting the green on 15, I believe off the tee. She made an eight on Saturday, which is sick. Like go to her, go to her shot tracker. It was a highlight for the week. So I really stepped on, it was sick. Like go to her, go to her shot tracker. It was a highlight for the week. So, I really stepped on. Yeah. I stepped on the Lottie Woad. She was low am, as you said, finished five over par tied for 31st. Congrats to her. I, maybe a bit disappointing. I think top 25

would have gotten her a leap point, which she's's she's closing in quickly on earning LPGA membership but still takes home low AM honors good on her as far as the broadcast TC what you want to get some stuff off your chest here I just don't know where the juice is man they're hiding the juice the solid we were talking about it on our slack the the 14th hole, one of the, you know, the PID pivotal moment of the golf tournament that everybody can kind of see coming. Maya's got 200, 205 yards in. It's an awesome shot gets a bounce, but it was like it was met with Thursday at the Dow. You know, Thursday or like Friday at the Northwest Arkansas Championship level energy from Tom Abbott and

Morgan and the whole crew. It was just they did nothing to elevate this event on the commentary side. And I thought the production, like the the cameras and the drones and the graphics, that was all awesome. NBC has wildly improved. Commercial load was fine. Yeah. Pebble, you know, from Pebble onward, they've improved so well, you know, but man, the analysis and the commentary, just telling us exactly what we're seeing on the screen. No, nothing insightful going on whatsoever. Just no energy either. Bones aside, I'll say. I like bones. Bones as descriptive. Yeah.

Karen's good. Stuff like he's on point. Yeah. I just didn't understand like not getting excited about some of those shots in the 14th. She quenched the tournament with that one. That should have just been met with like a signature call of some kind and it just did not, I don't know. And part of it is just the lack of kind of fan juice that was out there at that point of the property as well, I know, but. Well, you know what I think part of it is too, is probably just like a little bit of lack of chemistry

with Dan and Morgan. Like they don't work together hardly at all, you know? Dan comes in, this is is I believe is the only time all year calling LPGA KPMG as well. KPMG comes in. Okay. But yeah, I mean, shit Nelly we say legitimately almost made an albatross on 14 that would have like vaulted her up like tied for the lead and like I was going crazy at home and I felt like the broadcast didn't quite match it. Can we get Arlo White? Arlo White would have been...

What a moment! I mean, just something, give me something man. Like you're trying to convert new fans and you know, get casual fans into being more into this stuff and the golf was good. The golf course was great and there's just, there's nothing man. It's, I think I'm Morgan seems like a really delightful person. I think I'm good on her in the booth. Like I think this, this is Roddick's course. Well, I think what frustrates me like this is you can see how good NBC can be and, you know, rewind to Chevron week.

And these are two completely to call Chevron and the US women's open, both majors, I think is a total disservice to the US women's open. They are completely different classes of not only tournament, but broadcast, everything that goes into the week, completely different classes of not only tournament, but broadcast, everything that goes into the week, completely different. And I think I can't help but feel a little bit of that frustration coming out of a week like this of just like, yes, this is the best week of the year, but it's like so far in a way, the best week of the year that it's a little depressing as we get, you know, to the to the rest of the schedule. Yeah, because it goes back to KPMG. I mean, much more muted

schedule, smaller resources just goes right back to how it TC I wanted to read you made a great point last night. And I think for anybody that wasn't listening to the Saturday show, your suggestion that you know, NBC could, like add an architect to the broadcast. You know, I thought, yeah, have some, have some sort of analysis or even commentary on strategy of, you know, or like draw, draw more out of bones, even like bones was saying, hey, these, you know, these late, like, this is such a hard course to learn and get to know. Tell us why those,

what goes into that? Give us, there's so many. There's so much stuff. Get Mel out there with a beach ball like Ken Brown's doing stuff. Just try. Just get some energy and some creativity on the personnel and the commentary side. That's what I don't understand is just like, like the golf course moving forward is such a character in these events. It's, it's one of the reasons that a lot of people are going to tune in and then, you know, you can hook them as, as a women's golf fans, but man, like treat the golf course like a character and, and let us get to know it, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Any final news or nuggets that you want to, you want to share from the Torpedo Memorial? Yeah, I just had a couple things. I want to get to Lexi real quick, but also Geno Titicum, hugely disappointing miss cut this week. I will offer a mea culpa on that. I think, pulled a couple stats here from the beginning of 2024 in LPGA events that are not majors.

Geno Titicum has played 19 times. She's got three wins, 17 top tens, and one miss cut. In seven majors since the start of 2024, she's got two miss cuts, one top ten, and hasn't really competed at all. I'm not willing, Solly, do you want to have this conversation? Do you want to put your neck out and say she stinks? She's 22 years old. No, I don't want to have to have to request that from you next time. Okay? This is supposed to be something you flag. This is not something I should have to bring to your attention to say that she's got a stinky major record and you guys are crowning her too soon. Okay. Even, even in regular events, I want to see her win more for her pedigree. Okay. So I don't want to, I don't look, I'm not one to gloat. I'm not one to celebrate this one,

Rainey. So how dare you paint me like that? I think we're going to, here's what I'm going to tell you. I think we're going to put her on a major performance plan. We're going to want to see some improvements this year. And if we don't see those improvements, we're going to have to have a real conversation. I love that. Guys looking at her stuff, she's never won an LPGA tournament on like a real golf course. Problem.

I know you don't like the GLIB National. She's one of Liberty National and 1700. Like she, she wins Birdie Fest. She wins when it's 17 to 25 under par she also won the saudi tc that's a real it's a real golf course bro bro greens yeah i don't have to uh no i think she she kind of feels a little bit like early career phil mickelson because because her major record it's not terrible i mean she's she's got what she's got

She does have top tens. She had a really good top ten. She's got three top fives Like it's not like she's just laying an egg. She's got a she's got a top ten and all five majors She's got multiple top tens in I guess the Evian's the only one she's got more than one in but You know, which is concerning or we just want to see her showing up weeks like monitor the proper players are are showing out Yeah, so we're gonna monitor that Lexi Thompson, of course had to make news. I don't understand guys What is she doing? She had an Instagram post, I think that went live

either last night or early this morning about one, she wanted to address the pace of play. She was saying like, I'm not slow, but our group was, you know, we were waiting on the group ahead of us, whatever. I thought the more response to the Charlie stuff, right? Yeah, Charlie down or going to the next hole. I thought the more interesting point that Lexi was making was about her non-retirement retirement. And I guess she's going to get like, are we going to do semantics? She's saying she never actually said the word retirement yet. You know, I found on the LPGA website from last May, like a headline, Lexi Thompson announces her retirement

from LPGA tour like I don't really even care but It is just goofy to like think back like they gave her a whole like going away to her last year They had flyovers. They had Lexi days. They you know tributes out the ass and this is the fifth event she's played this Tour second major second mate like I don't know I just I'm good. I think my question about the whole thing is I Don't want to be the like conspiracy theorists here, but like why did that happen at last year's US Women's Open? Right.

What's the point? Why did we have to make any announcement? Couldn't you, I know she was playing bad or she was hurt or all that. If that was incorrect, couldn't you correct the LPGA tour or go watch the video that she put up, like her goodbye video. That's the whole theme of the video, it's goodbye. It's like this three minute long overwrought thing And it's like what are we doing and and then she wants the farewell tour

But then she also wants to call out during the week of the US Women's Open she could have she could have done this in the preceding like 12 months, right? I'd be like actually I'm not retiring You're still gonna see me eight to 10 or 12 times a year, however much I feel like. But to do it on Saturday of the US Women's Open after she misses the cut just feels so self-serving. Look at me. Just so typical of Lexi.

And I get all the Lexi supporters out there. Like, Lexi's really, really good for the LPGA Tour. There's a ton of Lexi fans. They come out to watch her. I understand that side of it. But, like, she can't get upset at us and others who are confused by the whole thing. Because she made it the confusing part. You can't get the retirement tour.

You're not retiring. It's like, if a guy did that, he would get vilified. That's good. Speaking of which, can we get to Jack Nicklis at the end of the Memorial? Yeah. All right. Hold on. Last question, just because it's my favorite game to play over under career majors, Maya Stark. I'm putting the line at two and a half. Solly, what say you? I would say under and I would say the line's one and a half.

And that's not a shot at Maya. It's just 11 last 11 majors on the women's side 11 different winners. It's crazy. It's it's wild. Crazy depth. There's a lot out there. If she won another one, that would be an incredible achievement. She's really good at Chevron. Yeah, I do wonder as well. Like Maya in having played with her and talking to others, it seems like she almost has like a criminal lack of self-belief.

Like, I don't think she knows how good she is or operates that way. So it's like, you know, maybe this changes things for her too, right? Maybe it turns her into a more confident player. I mean, if you had asked any of us a year ago, six months ago, last month of that Swedish national team who was going to, you know, be in actual contention and then win their first major championship, knowing the Ludwig like was close on a couple of masters. But I don't think we would have chose Maya over Lynn. And I think it just kind of, I think this is like a wake up to her. Everybody's always told her how good she is, but she's always kind of been in the

shadow of everybody else. And I think now hopefully this is like, no, man, like go out there and do more shit, be more calm, which do it. I would I would say to LPGA Ladies European Tour leadership, get a Solheim Cup in Sweden, get one at Olna Golf Club in Sweden. It would be such a good venue for it. Where did we play? Barca back.

Yeah. Yeah. Barca back or even Bruhoff. Like get it up there. You got more coming up through the pipeline with Ingrid and a couple at Stanford. Like there's so many Swedes coming through. So. So. So I think you're exactly right.

I'll join you. If she wins another one, it's fantastic. Three is gonna be a tall ask. So. Amen. Yeah, I think with that we can, you wanna shift to Columbus and the Memorial? Massive week. We might be end up circling back

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Ben Griffin held a big lead on Saturday, but here comes that guy. Griffin made four back nine bogeys on Saturday and Scottie birdied four of his last five holes to take a one shot lead into Sunday. He threatened but Ben Griffin was just not gonna run down Scotty Scheffler on that golf course but Scotty made birdie on seven, no bogeys on the front till he bogey the tenth hole when he drove it under a tree.

Griffin was a bit more up and down, he bogeyed one but birdie two, bogeyed four on a very very bad three putt but then made birdie on five. The big flip was on 11, Scotty rolled in a 13 foot bird three putt, but then they birdie on five. The big flip was on 11. Scotty rolled in a 13 foot birdie putt and Griffin missed from inside five feet for birdie. Scotty opened up a three shot lead when Griffin bogeyed 12. But Griffin made eagle on 15 after Scotty lipped an eagle putt. And then rolled in a bomb for birdie on 16 to cut the lead to two.

But he doubled 17 and Scotty goes on to cruise to a four shot win. You're not going to believe this either Scotty is up to $86 million in career earnings with this win. Third all time so much money. And he's coming for Rory is 16th career win his sixth signature event, which again just came about. Believe this is the third year of signature events. This is his sixth one. But remember when Mickelson said, like not when this year you got to go to wait.

He called walk in better. Hi, he walked out of it back eventually. But yeah, I mean, again, out of words to describe the guy, he led the field in strokes, gained T to green, negative strokes, came putting for the week and won the event by four, which was 34th for the week. So still like, pop half of the field, right?

That's of the people that made the cut. Yeah. How many guys made the cut? There's 50 something that made the cut. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Second and strokes gain off the tape. Second strokes gain approach, I watched fair amount of it. I had second screen on a lot of it today, but it just never felt like it, you know, he lost strokes putting today, but he just seemed like he made all the putts he needed to whenever there was like, that moment for even a second, that he wasn't gonna go his way, he

just rolled the putt right into the center. And he's just that dude. And it's incredible to watch. I put a little, put a sprinkled a little bit of money on him earlier in the center and he's just that dude and it's incredible to watch. I put a little put a sprinkle a little bit of money on him earlier in the week and just like never stressed at any point. It was just super easy, easy watch and it's just ridiculous, man. I'm, I'm, I'm remain completely flabbergasted by the talent of this guy to the point where like, I know we've said the best since Tiger. I don't think we've acknowledged like how close to some of Tiger this is like three or four years of Tiger are untouchable and out of the conversation. But like, I don't think Tiger had four better years than like the last year and a half that Scottie's had. And Solly, he's doing it against like far deeper. Like I know that, you know, you can

say, all right, this is a limited field event. Tiger was playing a bunch of WGCs that were also limited field, but like it's a far deeper game these days too. And everybody's shit is optimized and all of that. And Scottie's not doing it against plumbers and firemen. Although I know you think Ben Griffin's a plumber. Actually don't think that. Or electrician or something. I don't think that there's,

I'm just gonna keep a tally of how many times takes are forced upon me tonight that are not my takes but Scott it seems like scottie's getting hot. Sorry. Is that is that's what my sources are telling me It seems like our our boys heating up. I meant to go look this up. I mean what what what would you guess his odds are for? the us openness of right now See like Under 3 to 1? I was gonna say like three and a half plus 350. I would be surprised if he's less than. I feel like he's been at like plus 450. I think he was plus 450 going into the Masters right? He's plus 260 to win the US. He was plus 280 to win

this week. I mean there was no Rory in the field that hurt it a little bit but Rory's plus 260 to win the US. He was plus 280 to win this week. I mean, there was no Rory in the field that hurt in a little bit, but Rory's plus 700 Scotties plus 260. Are we gonna see? I was thinking about this, like, I don't think he's gonna play an event where this would make sense the rest of the way maybe like CJ cut by or Nelson would have made sense. Like if he was playing another one of those events, will we see a Scotty versus the field pre tournament? One of those events.

Will we see a Scotty versus the field pre tournament? One of those events. Will we see what it's coming at some point, right? Yeah, we should. Yeah. This DJ Cup would have been perfect. Yeah. Great moment coming off eight, of course, like. It's back to back for him, right?

With PGA. No, Memorial too, right? Back to back starts and back to back at him, right? With PGA. At Memorial too, right? Back to back starts and back to back at Memorial as well. He has now won. That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, yeah. And he won it.

I mean, it was, it was hard to describe how easy it was. That's my big takeaway is just to like how hard that golf course is. Like I know it's second shot golf course, but that rough was so long this week. Jack just keeps winning score was 10 under. The guys at T12 were even par. You know how hard that is to set up a PGA tour course like that? I was watching Spieth and rooting for him and he seemed like he was fucking everything up and he just wasn't falling down the

board. It was just, it's just that hard. I think I, I kind of bottomed out on Muirfield Village, obviously as a kid, that was the one tournament I went to on repeat. And I thought it was the greatest golf course in the world. I kind of gained appreciation for different styles of golf courses. Since then, I'm coming back around on it. Like there's, there's enough like it's a really, really good pro golf tournament, like the it's very easy to understand the cause and effect. There's real punishment out there, I should say, it's a really, really good pro golf tournament. It's very easy to understand the cause and effect.

There's real punishment out there, I should say. It's a great execution test. There's not any strategy really to it, I wouldn't say. Other than maybe- I think five. Yeah, 14 a little bit, maybe five. But it's a good execution test. That's kind of what the PGA Tour is.

And it was good viewing. I mean, you know, there's a lot of variability up and down a lot of birdies and bogeys to be had. And it wasn't that golf that I hate, which is like, miss. And it's like, Oh, you're fine there. You're fine there. Oh, you're fine there. It's it's a there's some bad stuff going on out there TC. But it's overall a fun balance of like, good little stretches where you can go get it versus stretches you got to really hold on for dear life. And the

bad stuff is the stuff that Jack just keeps messing with like seven, seven might be like one of the worst holes in the PGA Tour and it's not even the worst hole in the golf course. It's so bad. Cause that's 16. 16 actually played a little softer than it has in the past but don't overlook 17 also and 18 which which it's just, it's, it's a, it's a very brutal finish. I think, but, uh, anyways, Ben Griffin, I mean pretty serious little back to back weeks that he's had first and second and he hung really tough with Scotty. I gotta say he was, uh, it was a very, very good tournament. I just going to get out in front of this before you try to

paint me into the corner. Ben Griffin and Andrew Novak are different people and they're different players. And I have no back drop to eighth in the FedEx Cup after a T51 this week cooled off a little bit, but still in the mix. Well, for the FedEx Cup, sure. I would not say that is the same as the Ryder Cup possibility of making it, but Griffin is a different case. He's longer, a little bit better ball striker, has a little bit better track,

a longer track record, I think than somebody like Novak. So I'm just for the, just for, we're not gonna do the whole Ryder Cup thing, but just requesting that we treat those two different people as two different people as far as their prospects. Cuz I'm not, I'm not, I don't need to convince on the Ben Griffin thing right now. I think we still have a freaking long ways to go, really, really long ways to go. And we're going to do this week to week thing. I know we are, but again, he's in a different category.

So I think you can, I mean, I, I agree. He's backing it up. He's playing great golf. You know, I think he's probably a tier above Novak at this point right now. But, um, you know, I think Novak's going to keep playing good golf too. I think Novak's going to keep playing good golf too. I think you got to throw a brand Snedeker in the conversation. 65 today. 65. He was, he was lighting up the PGA tour app with the fire emoji next to his

score, which is the most exciting thing on there these days. Uh, so Snedeker gets a sponsor exemption into this and goes from 165 to 96. Next cup. Again, to your points, you should be able to get dollars from this, but you shouldn't be able to get FedEx Cup points for the sponsor exemption. I think that's such a no-brainer compromise there. I mean, yeah, it makes all the sense in the world. I just want to say Snedeker was 3-0 on the 2016 team. If we're looking for some past people to, you know.

I think you would be pro-brand Snedeker over Andrew Novak at this point. That's how dug in you are. Or Keegan, who, by the way, finished T7 this week. Again, TC, read it back. What's my Keegan Ryder Cup take? You can read it back to me. I'll let you fill in the blank here that you think that people should never be allowed to change their minds and and adapt to the to the situation at hand. That's well,

no notes. That's perfectly well done. Keegan Keegan said offhand that I'm going to do what's best for the team. But you know, I'm the captain and I'm gonna earn my way on. Well, he's playing good golf and he might earn his way on. Again, he has a mountain to climb to earn his way on. He has so many points he needs to earn. I think he's 7- Subjectively earn his way on. There's different ways to earn your way on. You know who has earned their way onto the team?

I'm gonna say it right here at TCL. Lock for the Ryder Cup. Seth Strachan. Big Rick Fowler? Oh. Seth Strachan. Oh, Rick, Rick's a lock for the British Open. He got in the British Open championship. He responds to his exemption to this one.

We gotta show some signs. So, I'm sorry, that's big of you to finally call Seth a lock. I think that's fair in June. I thought in February, whenever that was, that was a bit premature, but. It wasn't, he just believed in something. He's fair in June. I thought in February, whenever that was, that was, that was a bit premature, but he just believed in something. He's making the leap. Uh, he has had an incredible season. He's a completely, honestly, completely transformed player over the last two years.

And, uh, he can, has competed on a lot of different styles of golf course and this should have jumped off the page. I don't know how I wasn't in any of my pre preweek plays, but anytime like distance, isn't like a total premium Sebstraca is around the entire season. He's just been right there. So also props to him 74-73 the first two days he was he was three over par going on the weekend shot eight under on the weekend. She's wild. That's some serious golf on the weekend. So the Nick Taylor catastrophe was averted. Nick Taylor finished solo fourth.

Russell Henley, little sign of life. Haven't heard from him in a little while. He was T5 MAV, also T5 with a really good five under par weekend. The T7 group, Snedeker, Tom Hoagy, Ricky Fowler, Keegan and Jordan. Jordan stunk today. He was so, I wish you guys could have seen this round. He was all over the place. Did he bounce one over the bridge? He hit one short of the bridge on 11, this tiny little thin walkway. It like kicked right and went down the, down the bridge onto the other side.

And he failed to get that one up and down, but he made a mess all over the place. Chunked one into the water on nine, got up and down for bogey there. He hit one into the water from the rough on 14, but also got up and down for bogey there. He hit one into the water from the rough on 14, but also got up and down for bogey there. That could have been a way worse round. He only shot two over, but he was the second worst in strokes game approach on this Sunday. Second only to Max, unfortunately. But a good, again, speed continues to chip away, continues to

play way better golf than anybody gives him credit for. So we're just going to pause on that for a second. And note that again, that top 10 finish for speed giving him credit. I think he's a really good player. I just think you're you're talking to the haters and losers that came at you after your your Ryder Cup take on our podcast. I'm just I'm just right. I'm just noting. I'm just noting for for the for everybody that just screams at speed stinks. He

doesn't stick. If you think you might stick it, that might be right. You might be right there, but he doesn't stick a golf right now. No, but God, it just there's such a golf between him and Scotty Schaeffler. Oh, yeah. So like he does kind of stink like Scotty is the standard, right? And everybody else might stink You know say for a couple but it I think we're comparing spieth against like I mean who are his peers that we're actually comparing him to I feel like man Scotty's the guy you need to be chasing andrew novak ben griffin

Here's what it is. It's a comparison to what he was in 2015 to 2017 That's that's the mistake that everybody makes but I I think we can put that aside because I think we have something way more important we can probably get to. We have the United States Women's Open Champion calling in live in celebration. Maya Star, congratulations. How

are you? Thank you. I'm good. How are you? We are great, Maya. I mean, you got to be exhausted. What was the test at Aaron Hills like? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We are great. Maya. How uh I mean, you gotta be exhausted. How what was the test at Aaron

Hills like? Was that just a brutal four days? Uh pretty much. That's a good summary. Uh just brutal and everything that he was open should be. Yeah, I I heard sure what the daddy What was what was the thing that flipped that confidence for you? Like what how did this week become possible do you think? I mean, I never tried to really rely on my confidence to Think if I can win or not and my Swedish coach Frederick He always says don't expect anything but be prepared for everything. So that's just kind of what I

went in thinking and, you know, it worked out. And also I think that instead of focusing on my confidence level, I was just trying to do my processes right and just try to, yeah, just hit one shot at a time. Yeah, just hit one shot at a time. Have you made any changes with your process? Is this, you know, you talk about making sure your processes are right. When's the last time you've made a significant change in your process or what are the most important processes to you? Yeah, I did a couple differences just this week.

So I don't know if you've seen that I hover my platter before I hit them and that's just kind of to free myself up. And I started doing it on my long shots this week as well, which I haven't really done before. So that obviously worked. And then I think just a simple sports tip in general was just to keep my eye on the ball and until impact kids that apparently worked well as well and it's just so stupid how simple it is sometimes yeah I talked to me about out

there today I mean I you were taking deep breaths. I know there were nerves Was there a point in the round where you felt nerves? So talk to me about your general feeling throughout the day Yeah, um, I felt I felt less nervous than I thought that I would this morning when I was just you know hanging out at the hotel and um Coming to the course. I didn't really feel too weird. But then I think on the first hold, the nerves started creeping up and I just, the feeling of I don't want to mess up came in and that's not a good feeling. So, but it was kind of

funny on the first hole when I ended up in the rough by the green. My caddy told me just give yourself a pot and I just go, don't scare me right now because I'm already scared enough. So I just, yeah, it's kind of started on the whole number one and then I mean it was more of an internal battle than a battle against anyone else today. What was the toughest stretch as far as internal battle? Like it seemed like it was a big shift in momentum, 10, 11, 12, where you really seemed like you kind of locked in. And you weren't all that pleased with your approach shot on 10.

And then you had a great lag put there. And then 11 and 12 12 it seemed like you really You know kind of settled the nerves a little bit. What was the toughest stretch today for you on that front? I think it was probably 15 16 17 18 just kind of when because I didn't really look at the leaderboards today. So I was just Yeah, I mean I was just thinking I wonder what I need But I'm just gonna keep staying aggressive, but it's obviously hard when I feel like I'm playing well right now and I was just like Doing some math and I'm like, well, Julia is this much over under par. I wonder what

other people are doing. So when those thoughts started creeping in that I might have this, that's really when it became a battle. So you didn't know even coming down 18 that you had a, as big of a lead as you did or I checked on 17 well also because Jeff Mike had he was very insistent on that we just lay up which I know is not the theme of this podcast but in that situation it is and they they they played that entire conversation on the broadcast it was awesome oh I think I accidentally swore during it. I thought I heard that. I thought I heard that. So Maya, you wanted to go all the way up by the green, correct?

That's what the discussion sounded like. Yeah, I wanted to get it at least a little bit further so that I could maybe just take on the pin a little bit more because I thought that if we're so far back, we're going to hit this six meters left of the pin and a couple long. And I'm like, well, what are the odds of me making that putt not very high? But then when he was very insistent on that, I'm like, okay, maybe I should check the leaderboard and just see what we got. Take me to the 18th. You hit your second shot up there. You were, you know, we saw where you ended up aiming that with the putter. What are you, what are you thinking? There's a long sequence that plays out before you're able to hit. Did you want to maybe

play out of turn? Did you think about that at all? Take me to that entire scene and what you knew you had to accomplish there. Um, yeah, I mean, we just didn't want to go long. We didn't want to put that in play and And we were kind of in between clubs. And I asked him, is it okay to be short? And he goes, Yeah, it's okay. And then I didn't do my math, right. So I didn't know that we can make a double and still win. So that's why we were up checking by the hole. But but then I realized I was like, oh, we can make a double and he goes, yeah. And so that's when I just took it straight out to the right and I had, you know, all the room in the world, and I wouldn't go off the I was like I don't I don't want to hurry away from a situation just because I'm uncomfortable. That's well said. I think Jeff obviously is new on your your bag this year, but you saw you two worked really well together. I think there's incredible conversations that we heard not just at 17 but the rest of the round. What did he do to kind of keep you in the moment and be able to lock in when you needed to but also just be out there for a walk and try not to overly stress about this moment in front of you? I mean he seemed so settled through the whole thing and I couldn't really tell if he was nervous and I obviously I couldn't tell that we were even leading

because it just felt like we were sticking to our game plan all the way up until the 18th hole, where we had a little bit of, we don't need to go even close to this pin here. So he is just very good at keeping me in the moment by, you know, saying stupid jokes sometimes or he has these like stories that will go on for several holes. And I'm just and I'm just so interested in them. And it just keeps my mind off of what I'm thinking and feeling. My I had said earlier in the show, I thought your chip, your third shot on number two was like very, very important. You hit a fabulous chip, you made your par putt, you ended up, you know, running off five straight pars before birding six. I'm curious, what do you think was the most important shot you hit today?

I think it was the lag pot on 18, just because of the nerves. And you never want to think that, oh, it's fine, I can three putt this. So I'm just going to whack it down there. I just still wanted to hit that very close. And it was crazy how fast that plot was. But I definitely think on number two that that and because I was practicing a little bit more of a don't want to get my wrists going in my chipping because that can make the contacts and less solid. And so I was very happy that that that one worked out and then I was that also gave me a bit more freedom after that because I felt like if even if I miss a green and kind of a funky spot, it can be okay. Yeah. Maya, what was like 15 on Saturday seemed like it kind of put a lot of people in a weird spot mentally, just happened to really think and figure that whole out. How did you approach that Saturday? And how does that differ from week to week on the LPGA tour? And how does that differ from week to week on the LPGA tours? Yeah, I tried to go for it, but obviously we had a long wait. And I knew that. And so when we got up there, it felt like the wind was kind of from four o'clock. So it was kind of downwind. But then we didn't really feel it when we were hitting. But the wind had switched. So it was into us, because the wind has been doing that all week is it just goes away. Yeah, it's just a little bit all the time. And I think it has driven some caddies crazy out here. But so I ended up short and then I was just like I'll take my par and I'll run with that because it's a US Open and if you If you make a par on a whole you'll be happy. I

Like that what last question we know you got some celebrating to do which is the question What's what's the celebration gonna be like tonight? Where are you going? What's what's happening tonight? I have no idea I don't even really know where we are in relation to anything right now. So I don't know. I don't know. You're in a caddy barn. That's a really good spot to celebrate. Our buddy DJ lives down in Milwaukee. We could send you to his house. He might have some beers or something for you. Good spotted cow. Maya, does it feel like you're a major champion? Has it kind of sat in yet? Or still just kind of on cloud nine? Yeah, nothing. Not at all. Incredible. Do you think you learned anything about yourself today?

I learned that if I just have the mindset of saying just hell yeah, like, let's do this instead of being like, okay, just hold on. When I come in with that mindset, I'm gonna play decent golf instead of just like trying to hold on, which I feel like I've done before when I've had a lead. Hell yeah. We can all use some of that ethos in our lives. So I know you got a very busy night ahead of you. Thank you for spending 10 minutes with us. Congratulations. Major champ. Major champion, Maya Snark. Thank you so much for joining for spending 10 minutes with us. Congratulations. Major champ, major champion Maya Stark. Thank you so much for joining us making time for us.

Congratulations. Have a great night. Celebrate. Thank you. Thanks Maya. How cool was that? Thank you to the USGA who helped arrange all that. Cody working the scenes back behind the scenes, pulling me out of a spiraling party for her. She's awesome, man. She's just like somebody you want to go have a beer with. Like she was great when we play with her at Harding Park. And I've been a fan ever since and Ludwig speaks the world of her and it's just yeah, just good people. So that's what got me so tore up yesterday. DJ was giving her such a hard time about her chipping. I'm like, No, you you weren't there during our program. Like we had to chip in on 18 to be in the convention here. And she was like, No, guys, I got this shot. And I was like, Oh, I'm going to go get a beer. And she was like, No, you're going to go get a beer. And I was like, Oh, I'm going to go get a beer. And she was like, No, you're going to go get a beer. And I was like, Oh, I'm going to go get a beer. And she was like, No, you're going to go get a beer. And I was like, Oh, I'm going to go get a beer. And she was like, No, you're going to go get a beer. And she was like, No, you're going to go get a beer. And she was like, No, you're going to go get a beer. And she was like, No, you're going to go get a beer. And she was like, No, you're going to go get a beer. And she was like, No, you're going to go get a beer. And she was like, No, you're going to go get a beer. And she was like, No, you're going to go get a beer. And she was like, No, you're going to go get a beer. And she was like, No, you're going to go get a beer. And she was like, No, you're going to go get a beer. And she was like, No, you're going to go get a beer. And she'm like, no, you, you, you weren't there during our program. Like we had to chip in on 18 to be in the convention here. And she was like, no guys, I got this shot and literally just knocked it in. We're like, holy shit. You're like, we thought it might be to win the program as it ends up. It was just to finish, I think in a tie for second in the program, but we were still excited. We were, we were hooting and hollering guys. I didn't realize, sorry. I didn't realize Maya was too over making the turn on

Thursday. Yeah. Yeah. And then she played. Yeah. Final 63 holes like nine under par. Jeez. Very impressive. Also, I didn't shout it out earlier. But playing from the hospitality tent or the scoring tent on 18. Like that brought that brought tears to my eyes. I mean, that was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. And just the way that she waved, she waved him off and she's like, no, just play from right here. It was amazing. Yeah. Uh bones was very complimentary of Julia.

Sorry. Just the way she hits the ball. I'm I'm hopeful we I'm I'm hopeful we see a lot more of her incredible golf swing. I think that's a likely outcome. She's she's not going anywhere. She's she's strong. So, uh back going down the leaderboard. Do you have do you want to go down the leaderboard TC on the on the memorial side? Do you want me to keep uh plugging along here? Let's see here. A couple noteworthy's at T12. I thought we're Cantlay, English and Burns. JT shot 80. Of course, too. Of course. JT shot 80 in the opening round. Battle back was 69, 71 in the middle rounds and then shot

73 to finish in a for 31st, but battled back from a disastrous opening round. I was, I mean, I'm blown away at the number of like Ryder Cup locks or adjacent dudes who were on in the top 20 this week. Um, but speaking of which Ludwig 77 on Saturday, and I know he's been kind of, he feels like he's close and I think he had some things last year with the meniscus that kind of crept into his swing. And so I think he's he's really close from a swing perspective when we finally saw it's bogey free 66 today, which was needed to see some signs of life from him. Yeah, I had that flagged early week of like, when are we going to start worry a little bit about about Ludwig, which I'm not fully out of the woods on that one. But yeah, I'm not worried at all, though.

And somebody else not worried about it all time. Like, when are we going to start worrying a little bit about, about Ludwig, which I'm not, we're not fully out of the woods on that one, but good. Yeah, I'm not worried at all though. And somebody else I'm not worried about all Tommy, you know, Tommy went, sure. That's 270 today with a triple bogey on, on 12 today. So, uh, he played well, actually played well today. Actually shot 80 on Saturday or he might've won this golf tournament. Uh, he shot, uh, go of it, unfortunately, but he's 16 and somebody we haven't talked enough about for Ryder Cup. That's on that's on me. I'll own that. most of these Siggy's. Foxy T20, Big Bob T20, Victor Hovland T25. I was really happy to see him exploring Ohio's Native American Indian, like the burial mounds. He was out in Miami's

Burke today. I think he went to another one. He was going all over central Ohio. Look at all these mounds. God, I should have sent them out too. I wonder if all over central Ohio. What kind of all these mounds? God, I should have sent them out too. I wonder if they still do. Sully, did you ever go out to that Tecumseh, the outdoor drama? I'm sure we sent our guy Vic out to that. Well, he went to the Shawshank prison last year and this year. Like he went two separate times. I think he brought one of his family members to the Shawshank prison. That's awesome. Sally, one other thing I think Jacob Bridgman, you know, Rider Cup hopeful T 31, 78 today. So he's he's got his work cut out

for him. Big tone T 31 putting one handed. At one point, I guess it had gotten very, very bad. He's only 41st and putting I don't know what had gotten that bad, but did one handed it made him put as well and he shot a back 933 today. So he's coming. Be careful. Any notable miss cuts? Be 80 straight vibing. You know, I kind of had penciled him on the team 8172. You don't like seeing that but Brian Harmon

missed the cut as well. The postman missed the cut saw if missed the cut. So happy birthday to the postman today's 119 in the FedEx Cup. It's it's getting size my like, yeah, like run the risk of losing his card here soon. Is he exempt with a win? Did he win last year? Does he not have an exemption? I don't know. Yeah, we can we can we can research that one. But yeah, that's that might be worth monitoring. No, his last win was 2023 Fortinet.

So I think you get two years after. It's four years after. So you get the rest of that year plus two full years. But was that a wraparound? Was that still in the wraparound? I think that was before they changed the rules, though. Okay, we'll have to look that up. But worth monitoring.

That's not good. But yeah, it's not. The bibs remain very bad. The caddy bibs at Memorial. I think those need a makeover. I'm not really sure what's going on there, but every time it just, it doesn't look professional. This doesn't look good. I know they try to do everything like Augusta there, but I, and I wish this tournament did

not go up against us. Women's open. It, it didn't for a while for us a hot minute there. And it just is very tough scramble to try to watch two golf tournaments that you really want to watch on a Sunday afternoon, but it's too much golf. Yeah. There was early in the week, a YouTube TV, a multi view. It was very brief. I think it was Friday where you could watch both at once on YouTube I've been begging for that for god knows how long but I guess they couldn't

get it figured out once CBS kind of took over for the weekend but I would like for them to get that figured out anything else from Memorial? No I think we can what turn the page to uh we got No, I think we can what turn the page to we got the Ontario Open RBC Ontario Open. Yeah, the Canadian Open coming up this week. Also of note on the tour front. They announced this week that they are getting rid of the starting strokes for the tour championship. I should have waited. They should have announced this deeper into the season. Yeah. I think, all right, I think it's a nuanced thing where I think it's the right move to just do away with the starting strokes because they're stupid and it's contrived. And, you know, they also acknowledged in that that, you know, the fan forward research informed player led changes.

So they, they went out of the way to call that these were player led changes, but they couldn't agree on the, like a stroke play into a match play thing or something like that. But they, they announced three different things. Elimination of starting strokes, adjustments to course setup, which it said in response to data indicating fans want to see winning scores closer to setup, which it said in response to data indicating fans want to see winning scores closer to par, which man, you know, it would help with that rollback. The PGA Tour rules committee will adjust its course setup approach to encourage more risk reward moments throughout each round further heightening the drama and competition

to determine the FedEx Cup champion, which you know, I also would help with that better venue, which they, they acknowledge that they're looking towards moving this away from Eastlake, you know, in future years, I think. And then they, they announced this as a change at one of the three meaningful changes. The toughest tournament to qualify for, which it will remain at 30 players in 2025, which that's not a change. So it's just a straight 30 man tournament and the winner wins the FedEx Cup. Which is kind of sick. Like I bet the people are going to hate that. I love it.

It's like back to the days of Bill Haas. It's the worst of all. So again, reminder, there was a FedEx Cup race and there was a tour championship and they still played for points and it was confusing who was going to win it at the end. That's why they went to the starting strokes to try to stimulate that in one very easy to understand experience for the viewers.

Everybody, of course, freaked out about that and hated it. Now we're just playing straight for the whole tour championship, which to me, if I was Scotty Scheffler, I probably still gonna win. I don't know if I'd be too happy right now. The season started under a different premise than what it's gonna finish under. Like, if you're, I mean, take Scotty out of it, who I'd probably. Taylor Pendret is 29th right now. All just made up.

Yeah, wait a second. Does it Taylor Pendret wins the FedEx Cup? How pissed would you be if you were Scotty or one of the other or us? And the 15 guys. But doesn't this change also make it big? Like this is going to hurt the BMW championship in the FedEx St. Jude, like people can just sit out. Rory doesn't have to play.

Rory's already said he's going to skip Memphis, I think. That's sick. like people can just sit out. Rory doesn't have to play. Rory's already said he's gonna skip Memphis, I think. That's sick. I hadn't thought of that. Which is, which is, you know, wild. Also, like Rory didn't call Jack. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a little bit shitty. We can get to that. But yeah, I know it's a holdover and I hope that they are heading towards match play.

I hope they're heading towards reimagining this championship. I've said this for years and years and years. They are caught between calling this a playoff and trying to make it feel like the person who's supposed to win wins. Like if you, the Comcast business top 10, I can't believe I'm about to say this sentence. It is like the, the gift for the person who's supposed to win, who had the best season. You want to have a playoff, you have to have guys playing off. Like that just, that's what a playoff is. You're just hosting end of season golf tournaments. That's not a playoff.

The undefeated Patriots didn't win Super Bowl that year. I think, I still think the best, best possible thing that they could do this year, this year only, see if it works, is they don't do starting strokes, but Scottie gets to play from a forward tee box. Or like, you know, Scottie gets to play from, you know, the two ups and then, you know, on all the holes and certain guys get to play from the one ups and it's kind of staggered like that and you give them, give them a little bit of an advantage there. I think that would be sick. I don't know. Yeah. He doesn't even need the advantage, but that would be sick. Right? Yeah. I just saw, sorry, while we're on Scotty, Yeah, I just saw, sorry, while we're on Scotty,

wins since May 2nd, Scotty Scheffler three, the Colorado Rockies, my beloved hometown baseball team, three. I wanted to throw that in there. I just feel like if the tour were gonna go, I don't have any faith that they're gonna get to match play. I just feel like we would have gotten there already. They all bitch about that being like, well, why would we play all of our events in a certain format and then not play that format, which listen, I hear that.

But also like, I think the most damning part of this whole announcement is that we're going to adjust the course setup because fans indicated that they want to see more consequential shots and more consequential golf. So we're going to adjust the course setup because fans indicated that they want to see like more consequential shots and more consequential golf. So we're going to set up the course like it's an actual championship and like a, you know, in a tougher, more, more engaging fashion. Like, what the fuck were you guys doing before? Actually I kind of interpret that different. I feel like it's almost dumbing it down for like the most popular response, which I don't think is like, I get the idea of that on paper of,

you know, in theory that leads to more people watching, but also you gotta have some, you can't, there's not a, uh, who thinks I should fly the plane vibe going here that I think is going to be a positive, a positive thing. Like you should trust your setup team, trust the people that think about this way more than the fans do about how to set up a tournament. You can manipulate par so easily. Like, don't try to pander to fans just to make the par number as pretty as possible. And it's like, you know, it'd be a really simple thing would be like, you know, like, oh, oh, so like fans want to see less birdies or a birdie actually mean something or separation, good and great shots like cool. Like, you know, it would help that going to better venues, you know, help that roll back. Yeah, they're vehemently against. Yeah, they just don't strike me as very serious. They don't come across as serious. No, it just seems like they're like merging a bunch of bad options and you get up and yeah, we're just gonna play a tournament and the like, people already don't take the champion

the FedEx Cup champion seriously. And now you've on that down even more. It just seems like very maybe maybe it needed to bottom out. Maybe that's their plan of like, we'll do this, it's gonna be a total disaster. That'll give us the grounds to actually go out and get in a match play Which I know I legitimately know for a fact it was on the table Like there was two options. Oh, it was out there for match play basically almost confirmed. Yeah and Who knows what happened there what and it's what how much does the winner get these days?

25 million is an 18 million, 18 million. I thought it was last year. These guys are gonna be locked in. That's for sure. I mean, it's gonna be interesting. Golf tournament, dollar golf tournament ever made. It's like a $75 million purse for one golf tournament. What are we gonna do?

We already have to win. I'm gonna be rooting for chaos. Yeah, give me Pendrid. Give me Denny McCarthy. Give me somebody like that. We already know the answer that people don't tune in for the amount of money. So let's true. I just write it even more about Thomas D tree. You got to be shitting me. The Happy Gilmore to trailer is out. Are you guys excited? I'll be honest, I haven't seen it. I've I could not have lower expectations.

I want it to be good. I'm afraid it's not going to be good. I have not seen the trailer yet either. So I can't comment on that. It broke my one rule, Randy. If there's a nut shot in your trailer, I'm out. And I know your movie is not funny if there's a nut shot at the trailer. I'm out and you I know your movie's not funny if there's a nut shot at the trailer And yeah, it seems like it's just seems like just take handed on a platter like all the happy Gilmore jokes here They are pieces of shit for breakfast. I'd be stunned if it was really good. Let me put it that way What's the basic premise? Do we know that I mean? He's like come it looks like he needs to make a bunch of money for his daughter to go to ballet school There we go. So he's coming back out on tour.

And it's been a lot of cameos that brought us full swing. There's been a lot of cameos. Jack Nicklaus is in there doing the shooter guns. A lot of the pros are in there. What's that Neil Neil Neil Neil Neil is an extra on the set for real. We don't know if that scene is going to make the final film or not. Also, Zala Torres is in it and he just had back surgery, right? Yeah, it was filmed prior to the trailer.

Anything on the corn fairy tour you wanted to mention? I'm supposed to mention this off the top. I forgot to do our worldwide winners. Nikolai von deldingshausen won the Austrian Alpine open and country music up-and-comer Trace Crowe won the UNC health championship Yeah, I got a couple call-outs from the KFT. I think I Hank Libyota, I He had his let's see he said a t2 Solo third a t3 a fifth a t7 and he wanted to play off in the first event of the year

Hank is going back to where he belongs on the PGA tour of Love Hank and a huge fan of him Davis Chatfield continues his great play He's up to fourth and pretty much I would think at this point probably getting close to locking up his tour card. Martin Laird finished T2. Michael Johnson. Yeah, Michael Johnson kind of having a career resurgence there. He's up to 40th. And then just wanted to shout out uh adrian dumont h sart up to 38th he finished t8 this week and chief keith johnny keifer solo you know he's the leader out there on the uh on the

corn fairy tour points list and stays the leader t12 he's playing great golf so how about that put him yeah i love that yeah like, he's at the point where I think he can like stop playing these tournaments and like, like, get some sponsor exemptions into some tour events and kind of get his feet wet out there. I know he played in the PGA, the PGA championship, I think he's qualified in the US Open, or I think they give the tops in the corn fairy an exemption there. And then next week, we've got Sergeant, I'll be really interested to see how Sergeant's pro debut goes next week and David Ford as well next week. So, I'm stoked to see that.

Some fun stuff there to follow the summer. Longest day in golf is tomorrow. US Open qualifying Ricky Fowler and Max Homa are among those competing for a spot Luke Clinton also Gordon Sargent Jackson Koyvan Keith Mitchell Harry Higgs Nikolai Hoygard some of the notable names to follow around country tomorrow's gonna be I always love checking in on the scoreboards and seeing names pop up on qualifying and props props the golf channel I think they've taken the mantle again and they're doing good stuff around it once more as far as just making it feel like a big day because it is. It's the most democratic open championship in the world.

It's also fun to go out and watch if you live anywhere around a sectional qualifying spot. I remember I used to live in Columbus. I love going out on days like tomorrow and watching guys. Did we talk at all about the NCAAs? We did not. Just shout out to the bad boys from Stillwater. They beat Bunkie's old miss boys They beat Bunkie's Ole Miss boys in their short shorts in the finals. But man, there was a menace out there on the Oklahoma State Cowboys side. He was standing so close to the other guy as he was teeing off. Repeatedly. And I'm like, man, somebody needs to get a leash on this guy. This is crazy. It's a game within the game.

You would have hated Seve then. That's gamesmanship. Come on. It's all unbalanced. Seve got praised for it. This week we have the RBC Canadian Open on the PGA Tour. Liv is back at RTJ. When is Indianapolis? I thought like Bryson was in Indianapolis. I thought that was coming up sometime soon. Who knows? I guess there'll be an event in Indianapolis. There's so many activations going on right now around the plex by the way. It's just billboards, commercials, YouTube. I get hit everywhere of Bryson and lives back. Come out to the Merida Club, which hey, I saw him out on the side of the road holding up a

homemade sign too said come see me that's looks like we're gonna get a duel this week in Virginia and we're getting another duel in Dallas oh yeah uk and chicago look all these duels so hopefully like they do like a real duel and somebody gets shot hopefully hopefully not. Yeah, no, like the old, you know, like the old club duel, you know what I mean? Like that's the old, old school duel. I challenge you to a duel. Yeah, I don't want anybody to get shot. TC brain delete me in for that one. Uh, shop, write LPGA on the LPGA tour.

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