No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1020: U.S. Open Preview

Episode Date: June 9, 2025

We kick off the 2025 U.S. Open with our traditional preview podcast. We run down storylines and favorites, check in on some dds, run through some questions, some Oakmont history, and a TC/Soly trivia showdown at the end. Looking forward to an incredible week at Oakmont! Support our sponsors: Rhoback - Best Fit, Best Feel! FanDuel - Official Sportsbook of NLU Oars & Alps Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The right club today. Better than most. Better than most. Better than most expect anything different Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the no laying a podcast presented live today on the no laying up podcast YouTube channel Which you should be a subscriber of if you're not already. I am excited guys You might as well call it Stoke Mont. Sorry here with my guy DJ pie. Hello pie man

Hello guys, great to be with you This one I man this one's been been circled for quite a few months. Your guys' Oakmont trip, the podcast you guys did last week, I just, I don't know if the stoke could be any higher. So I'm positively frothing today. I've never felt more old than bringing back a nine year bit from a US Open that we've already covered at this location.

If you're not a follower, then DJ Pai was going off on Twitter with with Oakmont funds And I think that's gonna cut we're gonna bring that back I don't remember the genesis of that but there was like 17 people all at the same time. It's like more like Dining what do we got today? I just have filed my Yeah, anyways, you know, he's here for us open week one of just have filed my Twitter. Yeah. Anyways, you know, he's here for us open week. One of his favorites of the year, Mr. Big

Randy. Hello, big man. I just want to see carnage. I want to see struggle. I want to see pain. Let's get it going. Thank you. So I'm going to talk about your pain threshold a little bit for this week. Cause uh, I, I, I think I seek Randy's approval on us opens more than the USDA does. And I'm curious if we're going to meet that threshold. Mr. TC is here. You know, he's going to be here. He's absolutely stoked for this one.

Really excited to be here. We can call this bloke Mon, potentially with my fellow blokes chaps lads. I was going to wait till Lowry got up on the leaderboard before he bust out the bloke mom. But I think it's going to, those are going to get used up pretty quickly guys. You can see us all sporting our rowback. We talk about rowback a lot. There's a great reason why I got the herringbone little hoodie that we did with them, little collab that we did with them. Every time we do a collaboration with

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We're gonna get through a lot of those We're gonna check in on the odds Kind of give a little pre our final picks will be on the happy hour show as you all know as is customary And then on the bat very back end He's just gonna give a little history lesson for us on Oakmont, as well as we are concluding with a trivia showdown. Both myself and TC were the winners of the first two Jeopardy occasions that we've had on this show.

We're gonna go on a match play format that DJ is gonna host a little later on, 18 holes match play in it. He's got a great format for that. So stick around for that. And we're gonna settle some of this. What if my design associates, Randy's gonna help me with that one as well. It doesn't get a lot of credit but you know his name's on that scorecard as well. Randy was working on another site as you

were he did visit the property that he visited the property. He's a talented shaper. He's gonna move a little there just a little bit. It's just what's the economy about this back and he's going to get a chance. I know it. Doke one. We're gonna go clockwise here. DJ pie starters. What are you most interested in here for the United States Open Championship? I mean, this is you wait all year for for the draft thinking you might have an exciting conversation. But with such a clear cut number one pick guys, I'm gonna have to go with the guy who's won three of his last four starts. How many is Scottie going to win by? Maybe might be the

storyline to follow. Everything I've heard about this golf course from you guys and otherwise is like, yeah, it's probably going to be a player who drives it really long, really straight and hits great iron shots. I'm like, well, it just feels like we might be seeing more of the same. Is there any case against Scottie? Can we flip it that way? So you got any any any case against Scottie this week? Putter's not always reliable. Hasn't hasn't won a US Open before has not. He wins on a lot of PGA Tour golf courses that are very different from this one. They don't have rough this thick, greens this fast, this undulating, this many protruding spaces into it, little corners to hide pins. It's a different test. I also think all the things I described are things that he

would thrive at. He's the best player in the world and I don't know what he wouldn't thrive at currently, but we still haven't seen it. And Scotty in some big spots has found a way to like get mega bitchy and mega frustrated. Pinehurst last year should have fit him great. And it didn't. He was completely uncompetitive there. So it's not a guarantee that he's going to win it. But like if they were offering up odds on Scotty to win by like three and a half or more, I think I would try to dabble in that. He's only plus 280 to win the damn thing.

But I think in the cards this week is Scottie winning by six. I think that's like a very reasonable. It's not reasonable expectation, but I would not be surprised. Yeah, I agree with all of that. I think you're right. He hasn't done it. We haven't seen it at a US Open. We have seen him go T7, T2, third in three of the last four. You know, Pinehurst and the T41 there being the outlier, but I don't know. TC, I keep coming back to the quote you were talking about.

I forget which tournament that was ahead of. I think it was the PGA. His quote about, you know, playing well at courses he's inspired by or something, something along that line. And I just, you guys have been there. I have not. Oakmont just seems like a capital G C golf course that it's like, it feels very fair in the right ways. It feels very unfair in the correct ways, quote unquote. It just feels like a place where he's going to thrive. quote, it just feels like a place where he's going to thrive. Agree. And he's I mean, he's finished. Yeah, his record speaks for itself. I mean, he's it's a sea of yellow and green on his

Wikipedia page over the last what 1214 16 majors. So, uh, yeah, I mean, I guess, you know, there's some luck involved in winning us open, whether draw related or just missing in the right spots, you know, there's some luck involved in winning US Open, whether draw related or just missing in the right spots. You could say that missing the right spots is also skill related too. But you know, greens have a lot of slope in them. I think that's always an interesting component of a major championship versus, you know, week in week out PGA tour. But yeah, I don't know,

it's it's it's kind of Scotty and everybody rising up to fight against him versus, you know, him, him being kind of one of a, you know, three or four different favorites. He clearly looks like he's at the top of the of the mountain by quite a bit. Double down that a little bit TC of like DJ you and I did a podcast at the end of last year of Scotty versus Xander. Like, and we could, we might go this whole podcast without mentioning Xander. Like I just want to, I want to set the scene for like how open this field is for Scotty right now, for as much as we were all over Rory of like, Hey, this is a great opportunity for you.

And I don't know when the next one, like this is going to come around at Augusta. I feel that way about this U S open Open for Scotty like Rory moving backwards in recent months and just shot 78th Canadian Open like he Rory's top 10 in the last six US Opens like that's not a guarantee that he won't be competitive this week but like that is a great opportunity Xander has shown almost no form since coming back from energy from from. Like he won two of these majors last year. Like, Yo, this is spread eagle for you. And I know Bryson's going to be involved. Like, Bryson still struggled kind of on the iron play front, and you're going to need to be in great control of your irons around a lot of these greens, man. It is like blinking lights for, for Scotty on this one in terms of how open the field is. And the odds reflect that.

of how open the field is and the odds reflect that. Yeah. How would you guys compare the greens here to the greens at Augusta? I've never played the greens at Augusta and I feel like I can't really- I mean, you can walk around like kind of severity and some of that stuff. I'd say it's more similar to like a,

it's like a bigger version of the LACC greens or it's a very classic golf course LACC or winged foot or something like that. I think, I don't know, Sally, like there's a lot of internal contouring. Yeah, it's a great question, DJ. I feel unprepared to answer, but I can reach back and see if I can find it on the way back. It is, I think Oakmont Greens are going to be a lot more fear inducing and they're going to be running at such a speed and they're at such a tilt where balls will funnel to low spots, right? Like you're, it's going to be not hard to leave the ball above the hole, but like you're just, you're going to see balls react very strongly and end up under the hole a fair amount, I would think is one. And I think it,

end up under the whole of Fairmount, I would think is one. And I think it's a bigger test of lag putting than I think we would see at Augusta just because of how squared off a lot of these greens are and how big, I mean, the green expansion was one of the big things that Gil Hance did to this golf course. And I expect the USGA to test the specific corners that have been expanded into this place.

And Augusta is a thing, I mean, you learn the greens, they change a little bit year over year, every now and then one of the greens changes, but it's kind of, they got the quadrants and you kind of know what they're each gonna do. It's impossible to gain all that knowledge and have all of that, because there's just such a different in tournament speed,

even this practice round speed versus what they're gonna have happen in the tournament that it becomes what Scottie is so great at, which is adjusting athletically to the situation that's right in front of him like Bryson is going to treat this like a math equation. Like if you watch that that incredible YouTube video he did, if you watch how he calculates putts, that can work, but it's going to be a you don't get to practice on what they're going

to get as of Thursday. I know, at least I assume that's how it's going to play out and set up. That that helped. Yeah, I felt like there's just a lot going on to each like I feel like it at Augusta there's long, broad, fast slopes slope on there you go. There's just it's, they're both big and there's just a lot of different elements. And even in that picture that Cody threw up of the ninth green, they're both big and there's just a lot of different elements. And even in that picture that that Cody threw up of the ninth green, they're like, there's so much more than meets the eye. That's, that's a, you know, it's not really

popping in that picture. And so like that, that that pin is front right, or kind of middle right, because, you know, that back portion is more the practice green. But there's so much slope short right of that whole location that you can't even see there. So they look big and flatish and they're not at all. And then the stuff down the stretch, like 15 through 18 or really, I mean, even like a whole, sorry, what's the par five on the back 12? Well, like that green probably won't look like a whole lot on TV. And then that thing slopes away from you

at like a three or 4% grade the entire way. And then there's all these little fingers that they can tuck it in there. That's gonna be much different than the last few times they've been at Oakmont. And the last thing I'll say on the stage to your question is like, even not as much about, I think you're asking about greens just in terms of putting, but like the greens will have more accentuated features.

How about I say this, around like there's going to be more chances for severe punishment because of how severe the greens are than we see at Augusta. Just more separation between a good shot and a great shot. Which again, to my point is you know Look at the guy who's won the Masters twice in the last, you know, yeah four years three years, whatever Anyways, we're losing pace on this one big Randy. What's got you most excited? Yeah, six six 16 and 17 of the two that I was thinking of like holy shit Like those are these are crazy slopes in those grades. So

Excuse me There are crazy slopes in those grades. So, uh, excuse me. Um, we don't have to spend a lot of time, but I'm, I am drafting Oakmont as a big storyline this week. I, I level trades. Yeah. I'm bummed that there's rain in the forecast. I I'm hoping they get as lucky as possible, but you know, I, I really consider Oakmont along

with Shinnecock and I would say Pinehurst as like the three true most proper us open venues. And so I'm, I'm very excited that the championship is here this year. Uh, I can remember back to on hell's win. It was just one of my favorite us opens. I think it, it, it tests and it brings out what I think a proper US Open should be, which again, not a bit is carnage, is pain, is survival,

is psychological examination. And I just, I'm really hopeful that we get a lot of those aspects this week. Amen. Love it. TC. Gosh, I mean, we talked about Scotty a little bit. I think one of the things that we haven't talked about is if Scotty wins this,

he's going for the Grand Slam Report Rush, the career Grand Slam Report Rush. I think that's a really underrated thing of that could bring this Scotty stuff to fever pitch. Just looking ahead. So, well, not getting through the year without somebody else winning the career. Yeah, for sure. Well, I even would add to that TC is like if he does do that.

I mean, this is these are crazy talk here. But if he wins that, I'm there with you, right? We've got we got eight months where we're like, are we looking Scotty slam? Yeah, he's got a look. Yeah, exactly. I think it's, you know, there's a path to victory there. Big. It's not, it's not impossible. Arana makes my block guys. This is 26. Okay. I could even five in a row. Tiger couldn't do that. I

think that's the next question everybody's asking. All right, Cody, just go ahead and hit that shit. This golf tournament, this is golf, man. This is a real thing. We're playing real golf this week. There's no hampered fuckery. There's no he'll be fine there. Let the clumsy, the fine, let the Alibi artist stand aside.

It's not poorly played. Should be a shot irrevocably lost. This is our national championship. It's the open. And honestly, outside of Scotty, it feels a little bit open. Like you can talk me into anything past Scotty Scheffler this week.

I don't feel that way around the masters. I don't feel that way around the PGA when it's at a course that we see every year. I feel that way around the Masters. I don't feel that way around the PGA when it's at a course that we see every year. I feel that way about the US Open and the Open Championship. And it's really fun as a viewer to come in with some uncertainty. I did not feel that ahead of Quail Hollow at all. And I have so like there's so many fun elements for this week. The mental test for all the

criticism that we give a lot of the golf courses that host pro tournaments like this one is a full subscribe to of like what I love about golf. It's not my ideal style like thick rough golf courses are not my ideal style. But at the same time, there's so many good positive elements to Oakmont that have me super intrigued for how this is going to play it is not as one note as wing foot is. And I just am very, very,

very excited to watch these dudes like try to balance this incredible challenge. I was thinking about this a little bit more to like, I don't like just straight up despise deep rough everywhere. I remember moments of this past players were like, Zala Torres was in deep rough on 14 up on the hill and just like topped it out of there. And I was like, that's awesome. Like that like there's there when there's spots of really good thick, thick rough that that caused some severe punishment that is in line with how the rest of the course sets up, that can be a really good feature. Now if it's, and I don't feel this way about Oakmont, but

if it's like, hey, if you're, if you bomb it over the green and just stops in one foot rough right off the green, and you can hit, have an easy up and down. That's the most boring style of golf. I just don't think this golf course is like that. I may say something different Thursday if it plays that way, but I'm not anticipating that it plays that way. I think this is like a truest, realest form of golf. We see so much fake golf throughout the course of the year.

It's not going to be evident on screen to everybody that watches it, but having seen a lot of these places and getting to go up there and see this golf course is just like, Oh my God, this is about who's the best at golf. And that might differ from what we see week to week, but that just what has to be so freaking psyched for this week. Only only thing I would change here is I think we're, we're going to see who's the best at modern pro golf. You know, it's like, that's, that's almost like the differentiator is I feel like there is this

idealized version of golf in the right scale, which case like a lot of the thick rough conversation changes and there is all the realities of modern pro golf. And that's where I'm like, I think we're hitting the balance this week of the best you can possibly do with modern pro golf. And I think thick rough there is like a lot of a lot of that equation and especially thick rough that then plays into as best I can understand just reading about the course and watching everything is like almost like an exponential penalty, right? Like you're in the rough there also trying to hit like you have such a better chance

of hitting a horrible death spot around these greens that that rough is going to make even tougher, you know? And so it's kind of like penalties that stack on each other if you, if you miss the fairway, which I think is awesome for this. I think, uh, DG, I would say maybe modern pro golf. Who's the best modern pro golfer. I think that was the, I think that was the test at Quail Hollow of like, this is what modern pro golf has turned into. Whereas I think this is like, who's the best, who's the best all time pro golfer?

Cause this seems like the best mix of eras and going back to like, Hey, we're playing we're playing real golf here. You look at a whole like three or just like you got to hit all the shots. There's going to be a short par three out there. There's going to like you got to miss on the right sides. There'll be a good bunker player all of it. So I'm I personally think it's a win for people who enjoy looking up scorecards on the website, like on the leaderboard, clicking into the, and being like, oh, this guy's made seven doubles in a row or stuff like that. And I think Randy and I can get really close on like what we like to see

out of the difficulty part. Like I thought 15 at Aaron Hills on Saturday of the U S women's open was like it, did it look impossible at times. Yes, because players did not unlock the puzzle. They didn't solve the puzzle, right? It was also 250. Yeah, but like you had to come in from the right spot. Like angles don't always matter. But if you got on the green, but too far left, you were honestly screwed and instead of like chipping straight up the spine that you needed to to get

to that whole location. And that's where like, I think the USGA is is less likely to lose a golf hole or a pin position or get into something that's really silly, which I know you love Randy, and I'm not discounting. But I think they're there, they're better chance now of like threading that needle of like, they put some of these holes in these little like, cutouts, like, there's no way to get close to it. So then the

question just becomes, can you control your distance to hit it to 40 feet, right? Can you your discipline to be able to do that? And can you two putt from there and get your par is like, I think what a lot of people want to see out of US Open golf. I think that's what we're gonna get. when you see a lot of these classic courses get expanded, it's a lot of wings that are kind of almost like flared up. They kind of help the ball, you know, ride up a little bit and then maybe trickle back onto the green or at least like at least a better place to putt from. Whereas this almost feels like the opposite where it's like expanding to almost make a more turtle back is kind of the explanation that I feel like I've heard

that I really, really liked. So that's again, it's a lot of good stuff going in the right direction. But. We had a round of stories we wanna get to. I know we had a lot of questions and a lot of fun to have. Yeah, we can whip through round two here, I think. All the TV viewers have turned off

after the big round one of the draft here. I can't believe this guy fell to the second round. If you told me. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Whoa. If you told me four years ago that this guy was gonna be a second rounder, John Rahm is like designed in a lab, the U.S. Open player of our generation, maybe non-Scotty

division. And it just feels so fucking under the radar at an event like this. He's finished top 25 his last five U.S. Opens in each of them, obviously with a win. T8 at the PGA, T14 at the Masters, obviously T8 last week at Live DC. So I don't know, I think Rom's one of those guys like just hot take here, you can print this shit, don't forget about Rom. Well, I'll print that. Print that, you print that, right?

You make money out of that. I actually thought you were going with the guy who won the master. So I'll, I'll jump in here and grab Rory. Bad locker room guy right now. I don't want him in my system. It's a big bummer that he threw up some high numbers in Canada. I feel like it's, he's in a weird spot where I think the consensus was. I certainly thought he would be so much more freed up post Augusta.

And it seems like he's been on a bit of a still on honeymoon and I'm just really curious what he brings this week if he's in the fight if he's competitive or not and I Don't really have that much beyond but man. I just feel like golf at some point. We're gonna need a true I'm not going to go on but man, I I just feel like golf at some point, we're going to need a true Rory versus Scotty showdown and what better time, what better place than the US Open at Oakmont would be just a dream Sunday or Augusta or any of them.

I would put Oakmont above Port Rush. Augusta, I'll give you that would be fun. It's just, it's crazy, Randy. I think, I don't know. It's so easy and quick to forget. Like he didn't just win the masters. He also won Pebble. He also won the players. He looked like, I mean, when Scotty was coming back from injury, it just looked like it was Rory's re-ascension. He's never going to lose again. And now it's just six weeks later, eight weeks later. I'm just like, what, what happened, man?

Where you guys on the pod last night are talking about him missing the cut at Oakmont. I'm like, man, how did we get here? He might retire. Who knows? The driver's his superpower. If he doesn't have that, he's not getting around with any of that.

On a proper golf course. I gotta think he's gonna, God, he's gonna have to have figured that out right he's got to find something that works so but if you can't figure out a TPC Toronto like just don't know if that makes me feel great I know I know uh god if he does no show that's a big bummer and I almost think that's its own storyline um yeah as as much as that sucks. But yeah, we'll see. Which I don't weigh a ton of results from nine years ago, but this is one of one of the three he missed in a row. And was it was wholly uncompetitive here last time around.

So do you see anything you want to add to the chamber on? Yeah, no, I thought I thought DJ got great value on Rom. I was I was fishing in that that pond. He was best available on my board. And again, these aren't picked like these aren't picks drafts. This is just, you know, just the listener's snakes. Yeah, this is not yet. Yeah. Nobody's taking the defending champion. So I'll take that storyline of Bryson.

It's going to be fun. It's going to be interesting either way. I don't tend to think he's going to win. Willie Top Ten. I think he's gonna win. Willie topped him. I think he's gonna do that. I also don't see him winning, but I think he's gonna be, he's gonna be in the mix. Bryson's also yes. Why do you guys not see him winning?

I wanna pick at that a little bit. What's gonna stop him from winning? He's driving it so straight. Scottie, no. Well, sure, Scottie. I don't know, I'm not willing to say, I'm certainly not willing to write him. But I don't know. I'm not willing to say, I'm certainly not willing to write him off. I can't join you guys.

I think it's going to be interesting. I'm excited to watch it. Don't put words in our mouth. Not writing him off. I don't think he's going to win, but do not put in the paper that we're writing him off. I think this is a more strong iron test than we saw at Quail Hollow, maybe I the driver if he drives it really great. I mean, shocking take here like this is a driving a massive driving test

week it is the requirement here or like the the fit here is above average distance and above average accuracy, which is not like all major championship golf courses, it actually gives like a boost to a guy I'll draft with my next one is Morikawa. Like Morikawa is actually a decent course fit here. This is not a massively long golf course. It is not like a prerequisite of like Quail just felt like we're just picking from the bombers and this feels way more open than that. It of course pays well to still be long especially if you watch that Bryson video of him just kind of reducing a lot of these

holes to his little mid-irons or whatever irons they actually are in his bag. You just get reminded, like, don't, don't talk yourself out of a long hitter just because it's not massively long. But it, this feels more, a lot more open and a lot more, I don't know, like I can see a Shane Lowry, I could see Seth Straka being around in this golf tournament. I can see Corey Connors being around this golf tournament. Like it just feels like we're kind of, we're open for some random storylines definitely emerging. I don't think this is going to be a print off of the top 20 in the world. Does Bryce have new irons in the bag this week?

Yeah, he was digging some new lab or LA golf irons. I don't know if he, I assume he played them in Virginia as well. I don't know exactly how his numbers were. I guess I can look that up here. He was point plus point three in strokes, gain approach last week, which is a little bit of improvement from the PGA. But yeah, I mean, Bryson's really freaking good. Again, I take away from that video was just like, if he has his game, he's gonna he's gonna be around. I know he was not playing us open conditions. But I mean, we all know how hard golf is to play on YouTube. And, yeah, that he still was

competitive. So I don't know. Yeah, my last pick was gonna be more cow. I think it's someone we've gotten into the habit of not talking about around majors. And this, I got there are a lot of courses that are not great fits for him. But if you go and look at the courses, the course fit tool on data golf, like his name pops to the top of like, who gets the biggest course boost because of how accurate of a driver he is. So he's finished top top 15. Each of the last four years opens.

Exactly. That's not an accident. I don't think I was kind of poking around there. Does does he have the minerals? Does he have the mental fortitude to so, all right. Well, T.C. that's a great question. Honestly, something that I am fascinated by. Oh, it's yeah. Sorry. Little, no, I was just, can little Colin win on a big brawny tough us open course? I, and I feel like we could say that about a handful of other guys, you know, that

have nice world world rankings have, you know, win tournaments, but I you know, like, Hey, JT, would this be a course that you want to compete on or speed there, you know, just guys that are like, I feel like, would like a little bit more from Yeah, which is like, like exposing rainy, like you mentioned those two names. I'm like, I don't like either of them. I don't know. Like, that's not a good sign. I think. But yeah, we're so out of balance on like, how, how many weeks of

golf you play? How many weeks of the year you play a different style of golf in this one, I think is a little bit backwards. I weirdly kind of dig speed for this week. I don't know. You know what? I was thinking that with the driver too, right? If he's got the driver driver. Well, working the irons haven't been great, but he's super grindy and gritty and the putter seems to be heating back up. You can talk me into that for him in some messed up spots.

Get up and out from everywhere. Some messed up parlors. Yeah. The more color thing just reminds me like how fucking long the golf season is also where again, when Scott before Scotty like hit the NOS just left everybody in the dust and he was coming back from injury like especially on that Florida swing especially around Bay Hill. It was like, Oh, Collins, you know, Rory obviously, but like Collins, like, he's like the number two,

you know, guy in the world right now. Like he's, you know, he's playing some of the best golf of his life. And I feel like we haven't talked about him in two months, three months. And we, there's been a lot of talk about the weather. There's a chance of thunderstorms today. I don't know if it actually thunderstorm, maybe some chance of rain tomorrow. But then there's gonna be a lot of sunshine on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. And if there is going to be sunshine, you're gonna want to have Orson Alps in the bag. If you are going to be there in person, or if you're gonna be playing this golf tournament. Orson Alps sunscreen. Here's a bunch of reasons why you're gonna love it. And this is just a limited list because there's a lot more you're not gonna end

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options. You don't want to get that stuff on your hands, sprays, mists, sticks, widespread spray radius too. That's always so clutch. Men are not wearing enough sunscreen. Only one in seven wear sunscreen daily golfers are 250% more likely to develop skin cancers and skin cancer rates have risen 55% among men in the past decade, especially as Florida boys TC, we got to be staying protected out there. You don't got to the face and scalp miss is

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forward to putting on every time like, Oh, yeah, this stuff's sick. I can't wait to put this is not a chore to put it I want to I want to commend TC You know There's I was reading the TC message boards and you know a lot of people thought his job could be in question if he Overdrafted on Tommy, which he didn't do. I think that's that's impressive despite Record I think it's gonna win here and Port Rush Oh, no, I've been I've been looking I'm just trying to we're trying to Come in. It's gonna try to trade for Tommy later. Yeah, Dej

I thought I thought first of all that you're gonna say I was dabbing too much Yeah Or live it about how much I'm dead deep the People in the YouTube comments are livid about how much I'm dabbing, the frequency and the veracity with which I'm dabbing. But I'm poking in, that's kind of what I've been doing the last five or 10 minutes is just going through Tommy's statistical profile here. His strokes gained off the tee have been kind of on the downturn this year, but his strokes gained approaching the green through the roof. And then last year, you know, historically, he's just basically a perfect Pentagon. He's basically perfect. Like

he's all the way out to 98th, 99th percentile in each, each of the five major things. But his strokes gained off the tee has kind of fallen off a little bit this year. So this could be a perfect spot for him. He's going to win at Port Rush. We're not predicting it here, but we are monitoring it. There's a breeze flight, direct flight gets me in at around 2 PM into Pittsburgh on Sunday afternoon, if need be. Okay. How do you, TC, how do you feel? I don't know if you addressed this last night, but how do you feel about him becoming a

content creator? Starting a YouTube channel? To be honest, I haven't watched that. I haven't watched that. I haven't either. But it came across my desk. Okay, flipped through it last night. He's it's good. What he's practicing and some good sound. Yeah, it's well produced. I get I mean, if all the people I would love to just watch on

cameras. Yeah, wildly entertaining, you know, magnetic guy. So yeah, he's trying his hardest. We know that he's doing his hardest. I mean, I think I think in all seriousness, you just got to take one look at all of his all of his results this year. He hasn't missed a cut. He's got 10 top 25s and 12 events played on this on this tour over here, not to mention the other stuff on the other tour. So I think you're playing fast and loose within all seriousness with the Tommy stuff. I think

a couple players I'm not drafting, but I wanted to invite to an open tryout maybe. Can't Lay drives it sneaky good and I know there's gonna be some eye rolling on Can't Lay. I think the burden of proof is on Can't Lay. Of course, of course. You can show up. I'm just kinda, you know, you have to turn over every stone when you're in this job. You guys know this. Hey, alright. I'm not letting them sneak up on me. Are we going to go? Are we going to go? Are we going to go? Are we going to go? Are we going to go? Are we going to go? Are we going to go? Are we going to go? Are we going to go? Are we going to go? Are we going to go? Are we going to go? Are we going to go? Are we going to go? Are we going to go?

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Only other storyline and I'm pushing the term storyline here. There hasn't been a playoff at the US Open since 2008. That's fucking crazy, right? It feels like there's still an 18 hole playoff. No, no. Two holes. And what? It's a 30?

Two holes aggregate. No, they change out like a decade ago, but they've just never actually had to use it It's it's crazy that there hasn't been once it's literally since tiger on the broken way I think it should expire like they haven't had to use it. So it goes back to the 18 I like that or they should do a three hole playoff because 16 17 and 18 are all sick It's a crime. It's not 18 holes anymore. We've gone so soft randy. I know might as well call it woke mind. Well, uh, I we got some questions to get to let's get through through some of these We got a lot of really good ones golf. We just lay out some more players golf lavest players golf Levesque. Good question here is Oakmont the ultimate anti no laying up golf course Oakmont is an extreme

linear golf course on each hole there's one line and if you miss it, it's a layup it stands against everything you believe in I need an official statement does no laying up like Oakmont a little bit of the to this point. But why is that? Here? I don't think there's just only one line. There's different ways to get the ball in the hole. There's different ways to play these par fives. Certainly different ways to play some of the par fours as well. You look at a hole like 11 or

or 17. You know, threes a big wide fairway up there. And then you got to be creative on how you get your ball to stay on that green. I think a whole like 10, you can lay back, you can try to like Bryson showed you can try to fly the thing. I think one same thing, like you can hit, you try to hit up the left side of the fairway and almost create an angle there, or you can go up the right, have to hit a fade in there. I think it is tighter confines as far as where you can hit the ball in short grass, but I still think within those confines that there's plenty of different ways to play these holes. But yes, it's a good mix of an execution test, a discipline test, and there's plenty of strategy there.

That's where I'm at. You can't just bypass the strategical element of a lot of us, even if it's not going to be evident. It's not going to be that strategical of like, is he hitting two iron here or hitting driver? It's going to be a lot of guys hitting driver in a lot of places. I think the word is out on that one, And there's not a lot of guys that play back for position. I think the fairways were narrower than this, I would be a little worried about it being to one

note to just bomb it down there. You're gonna be in the rough anyways, figure it out. I think they're wide enough. I believe they're 28 yards wide on average, which is, that's not wide, but that's not, it just looks, it's playable, it's doable. And there's just so much going on with the greens. So much tilt to not only, what I say, it's like, the whole green is like fighting a slope in so many different spots that it's just intriguing golf. And it is a good test of the control of your golf ball. I don't think you can bypass the test. Kind of what the point I was making earlier of like, there's no just hit it

up there and figure it out. There's no just, you know, if you're out of position, just hit it somewhere near the green and you'll have an easy up and down. Like, there's just value in every single little shot. Every little error you make is just going to be, I mean, Mr. Phones wanted it to be a full shot irrevocably lost that the math doesn't quite work that way. But there's just going to be there's punishment doled out with your misses. Like it is, it's a very real, real test of golf that is not not dumbed down in any way.

Again, to the question askers point, again, not my favorite style, I would prefer sandy areas like Pinehurst and kind of that more style of play. But this that doesn't mean this isn't an excellent test of golf and going to be interesting to watch. I like both. It's nice to have both. I think even this is different than say, Shinnecock even. I think one of the other things too is there's just, I think some of the strategies around where not to miss. All right, if you like in those ditches or certain bunkers or certain spots of rough,

like down the left side of 10. All right, cool. You want to not make compounding errors and you got to figure out how to avoid places just like you need to figure out how to get to certain places. So the other thing is we're on a text thread with Zach and a few other guys. And he's caddy. The Russian has been calling What was it Oakmont the phones brothers? Son

Song two phones Admittedly lost here good guys. It's felt really Joe people who got that one just lost their minds, I'm sure. It's so funny. I don't know where to go. Anyways, you're just saying it's all right. Do you have anything else? Any other thoughts on Oakmont from YouTube blokes? Or that question in particular? No, I think you guys are right.

I think what I was saying earlier too is there's a way that you kind of have to test pro golfers and would I love it to be wider and strategic and choose your angles and all that stuff? Sure. But like they also just got what nine inches of rain in the last two weeks, you know, it's like it's, it is the test that it that it should be, I think. And it was on and yeah, it just seems like a great fit. If there was firm greens, it would make more sense to have less rough of like trying to

balance the flyer element of it. But like with the rain that they've had, you know, they're prepared for this. And again, still not my favorite style. But I think it's gonna work this week could be wrong. I might hate it come Friday. It's just far better greens than a lot of like, you know, there's somebody in here saying like Torrey Pines versus Oakmont, like they're two radically different golf courses. Bunkering is better. There's just, I don't know, there's just more to it. The greens are awesome. There's the way the holes are sloped or canted one way or the other.

And there's variety. There's a lot of rough out there, but there's so much variety, especially with where the bunkers sit, the way the bunkers cut into the fairways as well the distances your the the different distances um, I guess with the bunkers where they sit like certain bunkers are in play for other guys and they have to think about certain guys or you know There might be a sep strak a bunker that he can just hit straight at and not reach that bryson's got to consider going left Of like so many more elements than a place like tori pines. We're on complete opposite ends of the spectrum In terms of of and they're going to be 14 or 15 on the stem. Like it's crazy so many more elements than a place like Torrey Pines. We're on complete opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of-

And they're gonna be 14 or 15 on the stem. Like it's crazy. My guy, Grant Gardner in the chat said one for the plug and one for the load. He gets it. Shots of Kevin Gates. Next question. Literally two votes.

Nyrad61, is the length of the rough going to be too high and does the speed of Oakmont's greens ever get out of control? I think we need to entertain that the rough might be too high. There's a possibility, there's a style of play that can get quite boring if it's just hack out into the fairway. I'm not willing to eliminate that right now. Randy might be salivating over that. People might be rooting for that.

I think they're all over this is probably the thing that they thought of the most, but I would not eliminate that part of the question. Man, you can always go one way with the rough. You can always cut it down. So why don't we start out of control and then we can kind of, it know, it's like a haircut, right?

Instead of freaking out on Wednesday night. Exactly. Let's just, why don't we see how it goes and then, you know, go from there. I don't think we're going to lose the greens, unfortunately. It seems like it might've been a bygone era, but undeniably sick when they lose a green. Is Solly back over under 0.5 players that

lose to Sally's 88 from media day? First answer is no to is Sally back because he said 88. Then we get three rounds over 88. Three, that's a lot. I was gonna say I think we flirt with 88. Maybe somebody touches it, but yeah, it's a good line. Actually, I'll take the over on on 0.5 but not by much. I think

it's gonna be one one person that goes over 88. Yeah, I hope I'll take the over and hope. TGL in cell who are the top players you would eliminate from contention based on the test Oakmont provides. Good question. Did we do that with Rory already because that's like I don't I don't want to do that. That doesn't sound fun. It's not fun but like it's not it's not fun to pick who's not going to either, but you got picked from top players There's only like five top players I think we can eliminate it. Sure

I just feel like a lot of a lot of these top guys on this board drive it a lot straighter than They probably get credit for I feel like I don't know that there's any true like bomb and gouge guys that are all the way up there I feel like I don't know that there's any true like bomb and gouge guys that are all the way up there. No, but then you got to take into account like mental fortitude, truly. And like, I think guys like JT who have a propensity to like freak out and make a super high number is concerning. I don't like JT. Yeah.

That's I don't know what to do with Ludwig. Yeah. I don't know what to do with Ludwig either I don't know what to do with Ludwig either. I'll throw Hatton out. I don't think he's got the minerals TC. I'll throw... Brooks is still 50 to one. That feels disrespectful to guys like Sepp and Hovland. Yeah.

Corry Connors. Like Corry Connors, this might be a great fit for him. For sure. Very well could be. Corry Connors is also the 13th ranked data golf player in the world. Sep Strock is 10th right now. Ryder Cup lock. I tried to warn you. That's fair. Kevka's 98 right now. Exactly. Kevka's not, not. He's in the same realm as Wyndham Clark. I'll throw Wyndham Clark out. That's not a hot take, but I don't think this is maybe his second US Open. So yeah, there's a lot of guys there for you, Mr. Insel. Um,

I'm curious on this one, a McDermott golf TCI. I don't really know if I have an answer to this one, which holes at Oakmont do they have ability to alter from day to day or will they play it pretty similarly for each round? I would imagine Thursday Friday. They play it pretty similarly, but I would think the par threes You know, they can they can really manipulate those especially those two on the like the What was that the super long one on the front was that eight eight? Yeah. Yeah I think probably manipulate that one a little bit. You know, some guys will

probably be bitching about 290 yards and it's like, you're all playing the same golf course and you can call this a short four and it would be a brilliant hole, you know. I think that one I think maybe maybe a few of the those holes on the back nine like 12 1314 they could probably mess with the t boxes on those as well. I noticed in 2016, the length of number 12 was in the range of 632 to like 674 or something. And they only had it listed in the 630 range for this. I don't know if there's a back flex

option on what they got rid of a back tee, or what there but I would think with the par fives,'re gonna make one of the days like extremely as not reachable as possible still some people probably get there and then make it so we're like most of the field can probably get there but that might not be till weekend. Yeah, I think 13 they could they could make really short before three. That's awesome cool shot and like tuck that pin, you know, back left or something and it's a cool

little shot up the hill. 14 is funky, like that's one that they could shorten up and make it, you know, kind of a weird tester. With Ken Marrone, with all the excitement going into Oakmont, what would make it a dud? Just like really shitty weather, like thunderstorms. Yeah, you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. soft greens. Yeah. Some sort of police chase down the down the Pennsylvania

turnpike. They got to shut. Sure. Yeah, I think the weather is the biggest concern. I'm not too I think they're gonna do everything in their power to get those greens as firmed up as possible big. But yeah, if they get more thunderstorms, it's not going to be a good thing. What about Scotty and Rory laying an egg, missing the cut? That was, that was, it feels like that could happen. I mean, like, you know, kind of like Nelly at, at Lancaster, you know, I don't think it would ruin the whole tournament, but I definitely think it could be deflating, you know, Friday evening for sure.

The cut just a couple more here and then we'll get to some of the fun at the Gal 22 is the over par winner being too hyped. These guys are good. There are, uh, the holes to get out and run. I feel like it's being overstated. Somebody's going to find the weekend at minus five or minus six. First of all, the overpar winner thing is a fan created thing. They went out of their way on the media day to say, we are not aiming for an overpar winner. It was quickly nuclear golfed by the end of that day to say, they're reporting that it's gonna be an over par winner. Not the case. They were very much like the conditions are gonna dictate the scoring, which is I think how it should be. I think the only way they get themselves into trouble is if there is no win and they try to manipulate the course to get the score over par.

Just don't think that's possible with 460cc driver heads, Big. I'm sorry. Have your fight. The fight's with technology. It's not with the golf course set up team at this point That's my opinion Have we gotten big reaction to the fan forward tour championship stuff that the people really want to see a winning score closer to even par Do you think was lean that however we will not be going along with any kind of rollback? That was one of the major early wins for my new pack Put some strategic districts to invest in of the major early wins for my new pack. Some strategic districts to invest in. Commercials, you know, a guy that we're not talking about, we haven't mentioned him yet. He's not great off the tee. But he's

he's one of the grindiest, grittiest guys out there. Mickelson? No. He truly couldn't be a worst driver fit. I don't, I, if you'd ask me to name some, but it was a worst driver fit for this golf course, I would say P. Well, let's say you find something with the driver and then he's an elite, elite wedge player, iron player, chipper of the golf ball. I love P. He's great, man. He's great. I miss P so much.

I miss him every day. Just like the commission. The guys that get the worst course adjustment for this place, Nick Dunlap, number one. Sure. Cameron Smith is number two. I think we would have gone a long way before we would have mentioned him.

I was gonna mention him as one of the maybe not great fits. I didn't think that would be very sporting. Yes. I'll tell you, he's in the field this week. Leash, big leashes back. Hell, yeah. Back at it. I think one of my favorite one of my favorite shotgun start things that those guys do is comparing leash to like a very soft

contact first baseman, which is always a big dude big frame, but just just hits it so slappy, no power and just they haven't been able to do it because leash has been m IA for so many years, but good to have him back. It was the first thing that popped into my head. Last one, bendic leaf winning score prediction. It was so hard. Six minus minus six. I like minus four is where my head went.

That's where DJ one at as well. Yeah. I think we might see a pebble beach situation. We might see Scotty at minus six and Plus one. Yeah, I was thinking that too. I have McNeely at plus one. Yeah, Miguel Angel Jimenez Let's have some hope I'll say I'll say one over par. Hey, how about that? I was gonna say also the USJ could take it in their own hands again, just start doling out penalties to whoever's leading the tournament to make sure that winning score does get over par. Let's take a look at some of

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Odds, check in, of course. Don't need to tell you guys they are subject to change. Scotty's plus 280, Bryson plus 700. I entered this in this morning. Cody's showing the graphics up there. Some of these have changed. I will apologize. Bryson plus 700 Rory plus 1100, Rom plus 1200, Xander plus 2200, Marek Awa plus 2500, Ludwig plus 2700, Joaquin Nieman plus 3000, Joaquin Nieman ahead of Fleetwood and JT at plus 4000. Read that as you wish. Hatton, Kepka, Lowry, Cantlay, Straka plus 5000. Hovland and Spieth at plus 5,500 right behind them. Corey Connors plus 6,000. Adeke plus 6,500. Henley plus 7,000. Ben Griffin, Sam Burns plus 7,500. Keegan plus 9,000. And then Justin Rose, Matt Fitzpatrick,

Harris English rounding it out at plus 10,000 or 100 to one. And then stick Rose Matt Fitzpatrick Harris English round to get out at plus 10,000 or a hundred to one And then stick out to you guys there. I Don't know when was the last time I Nobody has this answer bit plus 280 at a major is unheard of unheard of odds for for the top of the board that's that's crazy talk for Scotty, but also probably high somehow. You know, that's just an outrageous number next to his name there. That sticks out.

What else? TC, anything else jump out to you? I never know what to do with Hideki. Truly, I think, you know. I think Havlin might be a little underrated a Little bit of a little bit of form. Yeah, pretty good iron player Good driver. Do you guys think of a How healthy is Xander cuz God is US Open history is I know good

Seven top tens and eight starts and his worst is a tie for 14 seven top tens and eight starts and his worst is a tie for 14. He's got three top fives. I just think at plus 2200. Maybe a little. Yeah, little nibble little nib. I just I look this up for a DJs. You said that US Open. You got to go back to oh wait Tiger was plus 200 at that one.

He at the oh nine. He was plus 200 at that one. He at the 09 he was plus 175. 09 was at Bethpage. And then so that's probably that's the farthest you have to go back to find odds lower than that. Yeah. I'll tell you he's being a little bit disrespected. HE plus 11,000. He's finished in the top 10, HG Plus 11,000 he's finished in the top 10 three out of the last five US opens. I Like that that's shit and t2 at the players. Well, that's kind of what's fun about this odd sheet I feel like is like listen. Yeah, Scottie's probably gonna win but there's a couple of there's a couple value picks out there You know you mentioned Xander, but I would throw Corey Connors we threw in there

Is he gonna win like probably not but I feel like he could be up there. Honestly, this is going to sound like a bit. I feel like Keegan's kind of a good fit with the way he drives the golf ball. I think disrespectful odds. I think he'll be around for a playing captain of the Ryder Cup. I agree with you. I wasn't even going to make any, any kind of reference or any kind of joke and you just had to had to do it. Just weave me right into trouble. No honestly like not plus 9000 is kind of like right. They know something. This is gonna be a big week I think for winner without plays. Yeah. Because if Scotty does go and win by like eight like you can convince me a lot of these guys

could finish runner up to Scotty but I'm also swept up in it pretty damn hard. There's some good big guns versus the field specials there on FanDuel as well. We can get into all this on Wednesday, but yeah, winner without Scotty. You can get Bryson at plus 600 for that one and you want to talk Harrison. He's plus 7,000 would be winner without Scotty and Keegan's plus 6,000. So I think if you played this tournament 70 times HEE would win at least once. That'd be sick. Yeah. Would love to, I wish we could prove that.

Maybe. Mickelson's plus 30,000 for anybody that, he just missed the cut on my storyline draft trying to complete the career Grand Slam. Will he make the cut or my storyline draft trying to complete the career Grand Slam. Will he make the cut or will Friday be the final round that we see it for Philip Alfred Mickelson? I feel like we got to get Phil into the Shinnecock next year.

I got to give special exemption. They got special exemptions. He flashed a little bit in Virginia at Robert Trent. You did. Virginia's for lovers. I would say he misses the cut though. That's where my my head is. If what I'm reading on the x the everything app is true. I think the top 30 on live will probably get exemptions in the

next year's US Open from up from one from this year. So he may be able to play his way in through that. Do we do we see anything from from an amateur like making some noise or or or a recently turned pro? Do we see anything from a you know, Jackson Coyvon? Coyvon kind of where my head went? Yeah, that'd be fun. I saw I think Ben James made it in for the second year. Second straight year Walker Cupper.

I don't know if you guys feel this way. But I feel like as outside of the Scotty thing, as unconvinced on, like you could talk me into anything, I have no gut feel on almost anybody past that. Like it's a good feeling. Yeah, I feel like I'm going in with such a more open mind as to what is about to happen than I normally do. Rory is currently plus 235 to miss the cut.

It's interesting. Which I think is interesting. You have my attention. Scotty's plus 650. Bryson's plus 420. Rob's plus 340. Rory Zander and Colin are plus 235, which kind of feels disrespectful to Colin. I can't really see Colin missing this cut. And then Tommy's plus 210. It also feels very disrespectful. I love the the miscut bets are, you know, it's big week when we got those. Let's do a big segment of those on Wednesday. Happy. Yeah, I think that's a perfect.

This cut week. Yeah. Do you guys think Blandy makes the cut? You see I do. You do think he makes the cut? Not above TZ. No, why not? If he doesn't, if he makes one birdie on the first 36 holes, I'm gonna get something in slack about him being in my ass. So, you know, I've got-

He's flooring, spelunking, digging around. Yeah, that was very quick. I'm thinking on your feet there, so there's no reason to say no Is he in the field yeah, yeah, he's the reigning US senior open champion put some respect on him damn it, Sully Is he gonna be my ass streetwear activations? So I feel like the cliques are just they're going through a heady heady rebrand right now How water like I might take it off taking some of his bandwidth? Well, it's more about you know, it's he's he's I feel like the cliques are just, they're going through a heady, heady rebrand right now. How waterproof is all that stuff?

Taking some of his bandwidth. Well, it's more about, you know, it's he's, he's, he's establishing his presence with intent. Okay. Plus 40,000 I'm doing word from our, from our producers. It's odd to have a comma in it. A hundred dollars returns you 40. The vibe is clear.

This isn't about dressing like a golfer. It's about expressing style in a way that Reflects where sport and street overlap doing it with intent Let's get to some of the history segment here because we could do this all day We'll have a we'll have our help picks out on Wednesday as is of course customary But DJ you've got some stuff for us as well as our trivia game here coming shortly. Big, I know you gotta leave at 445 Eastern Time, so if the viewers see him disappear,

he's gonna make a big match tonight. Big's got another site visit he's gonna go on. He has to, he has to duck out. You're paying me more over at this other shop. That's right. Well guys, as you know, Oakmont is the most frequently visited US Open venue in the history of this great championship. This will be the 10th time

going back to Oakmont. So let's go through the previous nine times. We'll go through pretty quickly here. And you guys, you guys stop me if you need to double click on anything. And I want to give a big shout out to my guy, Connorcastro who helped put together this research packet unearthed some fun stuff. Also with some of his own footnotes in here which I appreciate it as well. Just real time commentary from him. 1927, big. Do you know who the winner was? First time it was at Oakmont?

Well, I found out this morning it was the original Tommy Armor. It was Tommy Armor. I want to give a shout out. Well listen to Neil. Yeah. Neil, Neil, unfortunately, and Tommy Armour beat Neil's guy, Harry Lighthorse Cooper. You know that's Neil's guy. In an 18-hole playoff back when we built things in this country and we were not afraid of an 18-hole playoff. Yeah, Tommy Armour, Neil, you know, it happens. Everybody gets a quick slip of

the tongue. I'll probably do it three or four times in this history lesson. But he shouted out Tommy Armour as a 1930 US Open champion. 1930 is kind of one of those years where you got to be one guy won them all. So you got to kind of know that it wasn't it wasn't Tommy Armour. It was it was TC's guy, Bob Jones. But neither Randy, I thought you'd like this. Neither Tommy Armour nor Cooper broke par in any round of the tournament.

There was only one round recorded under 70. That was solid guy Al Espinosa in his final round, 69. Winning score of 301 that year. It was the final time that nobody broke 300. So poor one out for that the last real US Open was also the last time the US Open began on a Tuesday with the final round on a Friday. I totally didn't realize that they used to do that. But food for thought for the organizing committee going

forward. 1935 is the next time we're back at Oakmont Sam Parks Jr. I'm gonna guess that wasn't on the tip of your tongue. He was a club pro, no prior professional wins. I really liked this one. He played a practice round at Oakmont every day for a month before going back to work at his home club. Just great stuff there.

I really dug that. Only one three-putt for the whole week for our guys Sam Parks Jr. in 1935, which I kind of imagine the agronomy was a little different. The equipment's a little different. One three putt is pretty wild. You might have been shipping from some of those greens then and just putting it in the hole. Yeah. TC, I don't know if the name Kenakichi Nakamura means anything to you. It does. It does.

The first Japanese player to make the cut at a US Open. Through that in just 1935. Again, travel not being quite what it is today. The idea of just getting over for the US Open and making the cut, that's a big deal for any kind of Asian player. So shout out to Kanakichi Nakamura. You guys are going gonna hear a lot about this this week but do you know what was invented this year 1935 at

Oakmont? I believe it was a meter of some kind. It was a stimp meter. It was a stimp meter invented by Edward Stimpton in case you're curious where the name comes from. Connor was not psyched that he was a Harvard man. Connor, of course, Princeton proud Princeton grad. Edward Stimpton was a spectator. He was just watching he was out there watching the tournament was kind of like, holy shit, those greens are so fast. I wish we had a way to measure that and design the stint meter, which is of course still used today. O.J. Stimpton. We're going to get to O.J. later. The 1994

U.S. Open. 1953 is the next one. This was the year the USJ disallowed furrowed rakes, which Oakmont, they used to use to ensure more buried lies in the bunkers. The phones, brothers. We use phones. To test people. Exactly. Two phones, Kevin Gates. Arnold Palmer made his US Open debut this year in 1953 as an amateur as did the famous amateur Ken Venturi. God, big. Again, I feel like I'm just placating to your entire platform here. But even though Ben Hogan was a three-time champion at the US Open, he still had to play 36 hole

qualifying on Tuesday and Wednesday. One round. Just like the Liv guys. Exactly. One round was at Oakmont. The other one was at Pittsburgh Field Club. There was 300 people in the qualifier and only one person defending champ Julius Burroughs was exempt for the US Open.

Everybody else had to qualify. We tested people. Yes, I know. God, these pros these days would freak the fuck out. Despite that 36-hole qualifier, Mr. Hogan won wire to wire. Of course, Sam Snead was the only one that got within one. He was within one, you know, making the turn on Sunday, but Hogan went on to win by six that year in 1953. 1962, famous one.

You guys gotta know who wins this one, I'm sure. I think this is Mr. Nick. This is Fat Jack, right? Mr. Nicholas, Fat Jack. Fat Jack defeats Mr. Palmer in an 18-hole playoff, possibly one of the preeminent days in golf history there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, doesn't believe him that he only three putted one of the 90 holes that he plays. He played that week. Apparently Arnie three putted a number of times, nine times that week, nine times. Uh, and again, Connor had question marks next to this one as if he didn't believe him,

but I'm going to take Jacket his word. He claims he hit his tee shots with a lower trajectory to keep them from going in the rough. Just like the mud balls. It seems like once you hit it higher to keep it from going in the rough. Just like the mud balls. It seems like wouldn't you hit it higher to keep it from going in the rough? I don't know how that would wouldn't you want it on the ground? Maybe there were more tragedy balls. Yeah, well yeah but if the fairways can't did then it seems like it would I don't know. I'll trust Jack on that one over myself. This was a pull quote I believe from one of the newspapers of the time, quote, Palmer was king

then. His charisma had put the PGA Tour on the map and on national TV and in the money. Nicholas was overweight, unkempt and disliked. The gallery's metered mother, Nick Louse, as he shot 71 to Palmer's 74 in a memorable fifth round. Just this was a quote from Jack. People didn't enjoy me beating Arnie in his backyard. I don't think they would have liked anybody doing it. I just happened to be the guy. And yes, at the time, I was pretty fat, wasn't I? A quote from 1983.

They didn't have Ozempic back then. This was another one from from that same newspaper, I believe. Jack Nicklaus Nicholas a robust 200 pounder who strangles a golf course with sheer brute strength owns the 62nd national open golf championship. Big louse. Also what the standard for what was fat back then uh may have changed a little bit today. Exactly uh 1973 gentlemen I mean, the goat, the best of them all, Johnny Miller. You must tip your cap to him. Johnny Miller.

No, according to people on the X-Painting app. Yeah, it's not that impressive. It's only the 38th best US Open or major performance. I will not be participating in that discourse. Johnny Miller shoots 63 with a bogey in the final round You may have heard him discuss this before honestly. I always hated that would do like oh He just he all he does is bring up his 63. He should have brought it up even more It's the sickest thing yeah, you go fucking do it If you don't you know if you think it's it's so easy to skip that

That was one like a podcast or any any sort of deep dive like documentary or feature on just that round of golf. There is a USGA film that came out two months ago TC I have not watched it yet I assume that he partake in it. It's like Johnny Miller 1973 US Open is one of their like epic epic fair the final round broadcast is up there as well. Then there's a US Open film miracle at Oakmont 1973. That's on the USGA channels as well that I just got to assume he sat for, but I'd love to know like how many flagstakes

he hit that week. Cause I bet the over under is like three and a half or four and a half. Oh man. What was it? Wasn't he, he was measuring yardage in like half yards at one point yards or meters or in a feet instead of yards so good you've heard the stats you know only three other players broke 70 that day Johnny shoots 63 his one bogey was a three putt on the eighth hole from

30 feet sound fairly avoidable but the first round leader that year, I had not heard this, at four under was Gary Player, who was 14 pounds underweight after quote, a 40 day battle with two surgical operations. You guys heard this? Just drastically underweight for this 1973 US Open. There's only one. If you didn't hear about Nick Lawson,

you're the other way. There's the only answer here isousen. You're the other way. There's the only answer here is that Gary player try to have to do surgery on himself. That's the only way this this happened. Connor finds a doctor who was quoted at the time saying there is psychological soundness for it. The player gets so concerned over his health that he fails to get uptight over his golf. And apparently, Olin Dutra, they were, they were citing this as precedent, won the 1934 open while so ill with dysentery.

He thought he might be forced to withdraw. And in 1941, Craig Wood snapped a muscle in his neck, picking up a dropped razor blade. He had to sleep on a board, but he won the open that year. So TC, we used to test people dysentery. TC this seems like what, like something in your, your playbook, you know, it blows out an IT band or something, but he's, he's not uptight about his golf. He goes out and plays the rounds of his life. I just don't lose hope. I think this is, this could be a real thing.

Player also held onto the second round lead, but unfortunately shot a third round 77. This was another, I unfortunately shot a third round. 77. This was another, I like this one from Connor as well. Storytellers recall Tom Weisskopf making a birdie on number 9 that summer. After his second shot landed next to a mustard jar near a hot dog stand, and then Connor opines no other info about this shot is given. So no idea where that was. They probably didn't even give him TIO and they made him leave the mustard.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can eat the hot dog if you'd like to improve your life. And that's all we could do for you. Next up, 1983. You guys know the winner of this one. Hmm. I don't know. Underrated player, Larry Nelson. Larry Nelson, your winner in 1983. I love playing captain for the Ryder Cup as well. That's right. Got robbed. A weather delay strikes during the final round, so the play gets wiped out on Sunday.

When he comes back on Monday, his first shot is a 62 foot birdie putt that he caches on the 16 foot putt. during the final round. So the play gets wiped out on Sunday. When he comes back on Monday, his first shot is a 62-foot birdie putt that he caches on the 16th hole, which is pretty epic stuff for first thing in the morning. This is a fun one. His 65-67, 132 on the weekend, still the best ever weekend score at a US Open. Four people have shot 133,

including our beloved Tommy at LACC, but nobody else has ever cracked 132. Tommy did it at, Tommy did it at Shinnecock as well. Was it, I don't know if that was also 132. Oh, 63. 63 is a hot around, but yeah, 132 is still the weekend record.

Connor finds a Furman-Bischer column. He said, quote, I grew up on Furman-Bischer. He said it quote, really heaps on the Larry Nelson Arnold Palmer comparison? Lots of talk about character and being a good Christian man and such, not much other color or detail. So you could seek that column out on your own time. AJC, Verma Bischer, that was the columnist. Exactly.

He played the game the right way. That's right. Larry Nelson's underrated. We might need to do a Larry Nelson deep dive at some point. This is the final time Arnold Palmer made a cut at the US Open. And Connor tells us this one is you know maybe most famous nowadays for just an absolute quote tear that Lee Trevino went on. Just

lots and lots of quotes to the press. He looked like he was working on like his tight five stand up here. These are independent quotes. Quote, the greens are so fast I went to mark my ball and this coin slid four inches. Quote, to mow the rough they're gonna need a black and decker. Quote, I watched the TV weatherman last night I thought he was reading the scores. High 80s, low 90s.

I like that. And quote, the greens are quicker than my first wife was with her first credit card. Just good stuff for Lee Trurito there. I don't know, nobody else has given those quotes anymore. No, but it's legitimately funny. Yeah, exactly. He's great.

1994, TC, famous of course for being the weekend of your Uncle Jeeves' famous car chase. Big day. Also, Arnold Palmer's last US Open, as you guys know, received a special exemption from the USGA. To play that one near his home state, his first US Open was also at Oakmont as an amateur, we mentioned.

This is a good note. The course was playing 6,972 yards. It was just seven yards longer than 1927. All the way in 1994, the course had grown out seven yards. It was just seven yards longer than 1927. All the way in 1994, the course had grown out seven yards. There's so many of those things that are deep dives. I'm just like, yeah, of course, it's the same length as it was in the 1955 tournament. Exactly.

Meanwhile, Sali, we have a bunch of Canadians saying, like, TC, where could we possibly play this this tournament? Elsewhere besides TPC, Toronto, as if Canada is not the second largest country in the world and has like hundreds upon hundreds of golf courses, none of which we can use for championships anymore because we need 7500 yards plus. It's a disgrace. Good. Some fun baseball connections for the Seamsters in this one. We had Bob Friend, if that name means anything to you. He won 22 games for the 1958 Pirates. He caddied for his son, Bob Friend, Jr.

in this one. He was playing in his third US Open. Write that one down. Chris Perry, the nephew of Cy Young winner Gaylord Perry, was in the field. And also Willie Bernitz was in the field, brother of Milwaukee Brewers. Jeremy? Our Jeremy Bernitz.

How about that? Throw this one at you guys. Career War for Jeremy Bernitz. We're talking F more here. 28. Lower. High teens. 25.1. Oh, really, really good guess there. 315 homers for Jeremy Bernitz. Not exactly a lightweight there, huh? Nick Price had to put a new putter in play after a year after he won player of the year. As he said, the zebra putters didn't work on greens that fast.

year. As he said, the zebra putter just didn't work on on greens that fast. Zebra cross off sep straka then because that's true. Good point. God, I think about that. This one was a shocker. A guy qualified to see this. This is like a walking trap draw this entire little bullet point here. A guy named not making this up, Joey Ferrari. Qualified. A guy named, no, I'm making this up, Joey Ferrari. He qualified. Is he related to AJ Ferrari, the wrestler? Unclear.

Joey Ferrari, who is a pizza shop owner, he competes, he qualifies for the US Open, an airline loses his clubs, so he has to play the entire tournament with rental clubs. Went on to miss the cut, had himself a hell of a week, played a practice round with Tom Watson, got to meet Jack and Arnie. He also carried a camcorder in his bag to film the walk up 18 to use as a promotional material for his pizza shop, which I absolutely loved. So I was like, who the hell is this Joey Ferrari guy? I gotta look this guy up. Found a Ron Kroychek story for SF Gate in 2014, who detailed what happened to Joey Ferrari's career after this. He was the Northern, you know, no slouch. He was the Northern California Player of the Year in 1992.

Business was great, owned three pizza restaurants and a Mexican restaurant. Also owned a toy company and a video game company right on the bleeding edge of these, of these, or the leading edge I should say of these video games, traveled the world on the amateur golf circuit, played the South American Championship in Peru, played the British AM, then became a meth dealer after that and was sentenced to 10 years in prison. We know he became a meth dealer after that or was he a meth dealer after that? I would encourage people to, well, I don't know the exact specifics, but it sounds like after that. Because the pizza parlors could just be a front in the video game spot.

I think there was some cocaine and that kind of makes you think about the South America Championship. So who knows? The SF Gate story is awesome. I would encourage people to go seek it out, and truly, just some great quotes. Don't wanna really make light of this. I'm just pointing it out because it is shocking.

But he kind of details his spiral, becomes estranged from his family, Eventually gets out of prison in 2013 seems to have a new lease on life new brand new perspective Hadn't touched a golf club in ten years, obviously Goes out buys a new set and wins his first tournament that he plays and CGA's senior Valley amateur Looked him up on amateur golf comm still playing competitive golf finished T eight at the California senior am in 2021 and is a current index of plus point three. So it seemed like he got it. It got his life back on the track.

I wish him all the best that that was a story. We might need to. If you're if you're familiar with Joey Ferrari in Northern California, that Patty knows him out there, he might, he might, he might. That was just a true, you want to talk about baseball connection, just a real she's a slurve that I was not looking for there. Crazy story. I thought that was good. Of course, back to the golf three-way playoff at minus five between Ernie, Ells, Colin Montgomery and the boss of the Moss, Lauren Roberts. And Ernie would go on to win that one.

07, I'll move through these quick. I know the more recent stuff is probably a little more well known, but this is the time where they take out the 5,000 trees. Just a little bit of background on that. In the 60s, according to Connor's doc here, newspaper columnist said the course was quote barren and ugly So clubs leadership ordered a bunch of trees to be put in

This is where that all kind of comes to a head and after that 1994 US Open the the club's 18 member board Decides to rip all those trees out even without telling the rest of the membership. They don't even know the whole board. Oh, yeah, it's Sweet story. They said that the former super used to go out at like 430 in the morning, just start cutting trees down. So, you know, there's like less than a half a dozen trees that remain on the property when the US Open comes back. Dej, the story is that they were all taken out by thunder and lightning. Of course. Horrible storm. It might beurate this week. Yeah. No, I was, it was one chain saw.

They, they put thunder on it and one chain saw lightning. That's good stuff. I like, I like when the clubs have a little bit of lineage like that. Uh, on how Cabrera of course your winner, uh, I loved a couple of his quotes. Uh, he got asked about beating tiger at the 2007 U Open. And he said, no, no, I beat everybody, not just him, which is such a good quote. There was a quote from Graham McDowell that he played a Wednesday practice round with on hell and said, I thought this place was brutal.

He literally did not chip or putt. All he did was chain smoke at the back of the teabag waiting for me, which is good stuff. I think there was a couple like there was a Cabrera quote too about you know a lot of other players have psychologists, I just smoke which I thought was pretty good stuff. More like smokemon. Smokemon. How did I miss that one? Asked if he'd rather have 15 PGA Tour or two majors Cabrera said quote ask Colin Montgomery what he would prefer I'd prefer to have the two majors just Didn't realize Cabrera was such a good such a good quote

2016 I know a lot of this stuff is is much more familiar. I did not know this one Do you guys know who was technically the clubhouse leader when play was suspended on Thursday? Andrew Landry Yeah, not used first round. Yeah, it was actually a No, it was another college Scott Scheffler Scotty Scheffler a sophomore at the University of Texas Scott Scheffler. Scottie Scheffler, a sophomore at the University of Texas, opened with 69 and because of a weather delay technically was the leader on Thursday night. Andrew Landry, you mentioned, had a 12-foot birdie putt on 9, his 18th when the weather,

so he was basically one shot short of finishing. He made it the next morning to shoot 66, asked if he'd ever birdied 18 and heard nothing from the crowd. He said yes, many times. It's called the mini tours, which I really liked. Yeah, just kind of weather, weather throughout. There's a lot of other stuff. Bubba Watson lent his yardage book to Paula Creamer for her win at the 2010 Women's Open at Oakmont. And he said he never got it back. I don't know if you guys have heard this story. Paula responded, I mean, Bubba is a good friend of mine, so I know he's trying to throw me under the bus, but we all know in reality, I did give him his

yardage book back and he does have them. It's kind of funny when you play games like that. However, he is wrong and he knows he has his books. Just no, no bullshit there. Those range goats, man. They like to joke around. Yeah, of course. And then, I mean, we had the DJ penalty.

We had, you know, the, the six iron into 18 after the camera guys' phone went off. He hits it to five feet. TIO. There's been TIO in all of these. Exactly. So that's, that's just a quick, quick rundown there guys of, uh, of kind of some history at, at Oakmont. I would say go, go, go watch say go watch the 30 for 30 as well on that was that June 6th or June 9th?

June 17th, 1994. Just like the sublime song, right? That's right. Guys, I think last thing we have on the agenda is we've put together a little match play such a practically match play situation here we are going you know we have 18 holes one hole per question and you know like you said up front solid we've done a couple Jeopardy games you guys both beat the shit out of Randy and Neil respectively and congratulations that was to you know, so we're going to congratulations. That was to qualify. Now we, uh, we're going to see who stands, uh, stands up to this test here. Are you guys, you guys are familiar with how it's going to work? One, one question per hole.

If you both miss it, you have, if you both get it right, you have, if one of you gets it right, you know, you go one up. Uh, and we're, we're just going to play 18 holes of this, this match here. You both get it right. You have if one of you gets it right, you know, you go one up and we're just going to play 18 holes of this this match here. So I've at least sending you our answers via slack. That's correct. Reading out to the people. Did you see the DM that I sent you guys to of where to send it? Randy, are you I am prepared. I am prepared. I will be given a white. Are you ready? I will be proxying the odd numbered holes Randy will be doing rocked

You're in proctoring a proctoring proc. That's exactly right. Thank you. He sees one up See practically I don't TC's getting any strokes. That's the only thing but we'll see it's gonna have to be real golf today All right hole number one question number one This player has the most ever appearances at a US Open playing the event for 44 consecutive years without missing a single one. Unbelievable. God, I hope this is right.

Soly's answer is in. TC's answer is in. You both had the same answer. And you have both bogeyed the first hole. You both said armor. It is Jack Nicholas. Oh, Jack Nicholas from 1957 to 2000. Let me say that again from 1957 to 2000. He did not louse a single US Open.

He played every single one. That is 10 more appearances than the next best. Hale Erwin, he finished in the top 10, 18 times. Was Arnold just hurt one year or something? He must have been. He must have been. That's why I thought it was the connection with Oakmont, Shirley opening hole. He's got to be playing around. I was playing DJ.

Supposed to be a handshake opener guys. Come on. Not in the US open TC, not in the US open. That's right. Randy, please move us on to hole number two. Yes. Hole number two, gentlemen. Welcome. My question for you is how many pews are in the famous third hole church pew bunker? That's a tough-ass question you guys got you had to make birdie on one I was trying to get this right or zoog it's close to the pew the pews are the green things or the yeah yeah it's

the grass and DJ I'll let you answer that is it the closest or are we looking for correct answers? Do they change the number of them in the renovation? We have an answer from DJ. Or from Solly, excuse me. All right, the answers are in. Go ahead, Randy. Ron has guessed nine. Solly has guessed 12. The answer, gentlemen, is 13. There used to be 11 back in 2016, but two have since been added.

Here you go. Nothing hurt. You guys are both still all square. Conditions are tough. Conditions are tough. Yeah. True match play situation. If your opponent makes double, all you got to do is make double.

That's no big deal. All right. Hole number three. With nine US Opens under its belt, Oakmont is the most frequent host venue of the US Open. What course stands alone in hosting the second most US Opens? I will tell you, it's hosted seven times.

Sully is in. TC is in. The bloodbath continues, gentlemen. Solly says Pebble Beach. TC says, I clicked away from it for a second. Oakland Hills. Oakland Hills. It is the SRAWL. Altis SRAWL has hosted seven times, but not since 1993. Zero plans to return. has hosted seven times, but not since 1993. Zero plans to return. Another way to, like no way, neither of us are gonna get that. They do have the PGA in 2029, as I mentioned,

this will be the 10th for Oakmont, also scheduled back at Oakmont, 2033, 2042 and 2049. Big guy. Your 10. See this rough is so thick out here, I can't play this golf course. This is no joke, man, this is real golf. They gotta start syringing these greens.

Yeah, they're losing the golf course. All right, here's a good opportunity. I feel like this is a scoring opportunity. Question four, hole four, who is the oldest player to ever win a US Open? Solly is in with Birdie. And TC makes a triple. I'm sorry. So, he is in with One up. Julio Franco.

Mr. Sullivan, one up. Hole number five, guys, held on October 4th, 1895. This course hosted the first ever United States Open. I did not realize it was in October. That's wild. Interesting. I don't think I know this. It's kind of Interesting. TC hits it. Oh, TC's hit it to three feet. Makes Birdie solid. The gallery's still looking for his ball. TC's got it right. It is Newport Golf and Country Club in Rhode Island.

Solly went with Shinnecock, not far off there also one of the og5 There were 10 pros and one amateur that played in the in the first US open it was 36 holes just four trips around Newport's nine hole golf course all played in one day It's kind of like KVV's hundred hole hike 21 year old Horace Rollins one hanging up scores of 91 82 In that first US open he He won $150 for the effort. So there you go. You have to request TC closes comments as well. I was wondering where the Julio Franco came from.

I see that's in the comment section. That means he's doing an open book form. I don't think anybody's chimed in with anything, but. Okay, I'm just calling for the closing of it. Number six, I believe we're all fair. Much like the USGA, we're not gonna tell you whether we're penalizing TC until the end of the competition. Continue to keep playing. Gentlemen, two players did it on the same day at LACC, but who technically shot the first ever 62 in US Open history?

God, who was first? I can't remember. Solly is in. Solly is in. Wait, I don't even remember that who did this. You can concede. You can pick up your ball. Oh no. TC is in. Solly knocks one stiff. It is Ricky Fowler. He technically hold out ahead of Xander Schauffele. Both shot 62 and 2023 at the LACC US Open. I guess Tommy Fleetwood. What is, we got Solly's conceded. Solly is two up now.

One up, one up, one up. That's right, T.C. got the last one back. All right number seven Are we playing nine or eighteen? No, we played eighteen real golf The record for most consecutive top tens at the US Open is 16 consecutive top tens held by this man The hint the next highest is seven. I'm not confident. Sali is in. Both of you guessed the same Mr. Nicklaus. Unfortunately, that is incorrect. It is Ben Hogan.

Despite a couple of missed tournaments for, you know, car related incidents, why I didn't want to go war and all kinds of horrific things from 1940 to 1960, he didn't finish outside the top 10, which, again, just includes

the streak of literally getting hit by a bus and coming back and he just did not finish outside the top 10. Shocking stuff. All right we go to number eight. Solly's one up. Our question gentlemen, this golfer played the US Open 11 times and finished in the top 10 in all but one of them. Who is he? Jeez. Who am I? Could be Xander in three years.

It's true. 11 times. I have no idea. These are freaking hard. Oh, or are they TC licked it? Oh really? I just like pulled that out of thin air. TC gets it right. Mr. Bobby Jones, the one finish outside the top 10 guys.

Bob Jones, his friends call him Bob. Bob. He finished tied for 11th at Oakmont in 1927. I was just thinking of short careers. That was kind of the... And they just hung it up, man. You know, crazy. Also tied. Hole nine, quirky hole here. Offed maligned on Golf Club Atlas,

but I think it's a good hole. What was the most recent state to host their first US Open? TC is in. Boys are fishing in the same pond here, Dej. I think so. I think it was. Both of you guys said Washington, which was true until Aaron's Tells in 2017. That was the first ever US Open in the great state of Wisconsin.

US Open has only been held in 19 of 50 states. That's kind of a that's kind of an interesting one to put in your back of your pocket. I think they've had USJ championships in all now, right? After they did the senior women's ham up in Alaska. I think that's right. All right, big. Where are we at? We all square?

Yeah, we're all square heading to the back. Trivia doesn't start till the back nine and uh whole number ten boys since Tiger Woods did it only two US amateur champs have also won a US Open. Can you name both of them since since Tiger since Tiger? The boys are in a blender. This is the this is so gettable. This is so gettable. This is so gettable. You got to get your yard set up. This was your yardage book.

Think your way through it. Make a par. All right, I got one. I've got one think. Maybe not. Since Tiger. And Randy, you let me know if we need to put these boys on the clock.

I give you one. Sure, you can give me one. You just won't get it right. Will you say good good move to the next? No. to the next. No. I think he won the US amateur, but I'll get in whatever. That's not right. I know it's not right. That's not correct. You both fell into the same. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I got one.

You already got the first one wrong. So it doesn't matter. Oh, but you did between the two of you guys. Oh, sorry, Randy. I'm stepping on your, your brilliant. No, no, no. We got it right in the aggregate. In the aggregate, you got it right. The boys each guessed Jordan Spieth.

That is not correct. I knew that was wrong. It gives you a C. You got one of them, Matt Fitzpatrick, Solid, you got the other one, Bryson DeChambeau. Ah. Yeah. Right there for the taking. I mean, these holes are just they're they're there.

They're simple, but not easy. You know, it's just I'm a game today. It's strategic design can expose. All right. Well, listen, let's let's pick up. You guys were, of course, thinking of the U.S. junior with Jordan Spieth. There are only three people in history who have won the U.S. junior and the US Open

Tiger Jordan Spieth and this man This one's hard as shit, I'll fucking hard as shit I'll tell you that This is supposed to be the national championship Is when you play a pitch and putt, know, we got to get to earn it. I mean, I don't think there's any chance of doing this. I would not have got this one, but it is a six stat. US. I mean, imagine just take a swing. Imagine if you get it. I was I was gonna say maybe put 15 seconds here on the clock yeah I'll put a guess in it's not right I got nothing Sally has said Lee Jansen

TC has got nothing I got Johnny Miller was a former US junior champion. He won in 1964. What a list. Tiger, Johnny, and Jordan Spieth. Really, I really like that question. All right, Tide coming to 12. Gentlemen, I think this is gettable today, but I don't want to lead you. All right, who is the last person to win in their first start at the US Open? Jesus man, why is this so hard? Guys are bad guys. Seriously, You guys have been beaten up on poor Randy and Neil. You know, feel like cock in the walk. I just shot 78 at my country club.

Aren't I a real golfer? All right, I got an answer in. TC awaiting your play. Hold on. TC's backed off. Motion in the gallery. Get a pick in, Hold on. Uh, he's he's backed off. Motion in the gallery. Get up, get a pick in. Come on. We're trying to keep things. All right, here we go. Uh, boys, neither of us got it. TC guests, Jack Nicklaus, Sally said Ernie L's it is in fact back in

1913 we Francis we met. Fuck you guys. This is pretty famous. I thought that was a pretty famous stat. Okay. That's somebody else would have wanted since then in their first start. Right. But that's why I can tell you five people have done it in history. We met is the last to do it in 1913. The others, Fred heard Harry Vardon, George Sargent, uh, and Horace Rawlins.

Cool. Of course. won the first one. All right, hole number 13. Who was the first Spanish player to win a US Open? God, my US Open is true. Can't be that obvious, is it? I just put it in the comments fuck I got TC I get it TC gets it. So it was the first moment, right? Absolutely out thought himself brilliant strategic design. Oh, Rob, he says somebody had to have won it before wrong. Let me finish third in 1987. Oh, a thawble never finished better than t8. John Romm, the only Spanish US Open winner.

I thought that was fun. It's all he's doing. He's the architect. He's not playing the golf. Did TC just give away? He said he put it in the comments? No, I went to our comments. He just took it in the comments instead of in the flag.

I went to our comments and then I went to the other comments instead of going to the Slack. Because Cody sent a comment. It's a gentleman's game. Okay. Hole number 14, TC takes what could be a command. It's just all of a sudden getting late early here. One up, five to play. Number 14. Gentlemen, who holds the US Open 72 hole scoring record? Is this in relation to par or just the the lowest number lowest uh the lowest number

Wow dj a little surprising here soli went with bro Brooks Kepka. TC went with Jordan Spieth. It is in fact Rory McIlroy back in 2011. He shot a 268-17 under par, which is also the record for most strokes under par at any point. All right. Well, if you guys don't like that one 72, okay, if you guys don't like that one you're really not gonna like this one That 2011 performance at congressional made Rory only the third person to break 70 in all four rounds Can you name the other two and I'll give you a massive hint. They have the same first name The only person This is a sick hole Brady's rooting rooting for the course at home. Oh, I oh I like this. I think I got it.

TC at the long par five has knocked it on McGree and he has a three footer for eagle. has knocked it on the green. He has a three footer for eagle. Uh I well yeah I don't want to know that but alright I don't know anyways. It is course Lee Trevino and Lee Jansen. Couple of Lees. A couple of Lees. Wasn't gonna get there. That's a shot of the tournament. At some point somebody's gonna have to hit a shot that just defines this thing TC might have just done it Randy hole number 16. Yeah. Yeah, this could be the last here Carrying a four-shot lead into the final round

Who was the 54 hole leader the last time the US Open was at Oakmont? time the US Open was at Oakmont. Solly fights back with a birdie. Solly just flagged this. TC was starting to engrave his name on the trophy. Oh, wow. Solly gets one back. Solly has it right. Shane Lowry is the correct answer. God, we talked about this on site too, Solly. Went with Steve Stricker. Just that was like Stricker's hosel shag for the middle of the fairway there, T.C. Turned of it looked like it was his.

That's wild. Wow. Back to one up. Yeah. What a finish. What a finish. All right, hole number 17. How many Australians have won the US Open? How the silence is deafening. Come on TC. TC's answer is in Sally's answer is in TC says zero forgetting about Jeff Ogilvie. Sally says one forgetting about David Graham. It's two.

It's two. Forgetting about slash just becoming aware that David Graham won the US Open. Wow. All right. Hypothetical 18th hole coming up, huh? Yeah. Hypothetical 18th hole.

God, this is electric stuff, Randy. And folks, I will say we do have a sudden death tiebreaker should we finish tied after eight. 18. 18 holes? Yeah. An 18 hole playoff. It's not that we got Randy Chandler. Yeah. All right. 18. Who finished runner up to Bryson DeChambeau at winged foot? They hate this finisher. You can tell I hate this. You don't see a lot of drivable par four finishers. I shouldn't know. They hate it. Maybe the one week spot on the course. Oh, it ties up and knots big. So it's so there in front of you. So I was expecting some stuff

about like highest us open score of all time. Sure. Things of that nature. Is 18th, is it simply just a way back to the clubhouse? What have they done? Oh, I think I got it. Actually, Sally is in TC is in wow. Sally says Matthew Wolf, which is correct, but TC answers with a Matthew Wolf. TC takes it one up. What a match, gentlemen. TC waited till it got put in the comments and then got the answer in. No.

No. Oh, guys, congratulations. I never in my wildest dreams did I think that would be such a good match. I didn't know if we'd even get to 18. That was great stuff. That was absolutely brutal. brutal, brutal, brutal format of the question. I was definitely expecting a myopia hunt club. Sure. And that's the thing about the USGA, you know, they're not going to give you what you're they're keeping you on your back foot.

You know, that's the toughest, the toughest examination. Exactly. Which I think we just saw. Also, I heard back from from from our friend, Patty, he said, Absolutely. How the hell do you know about him? My dad's been playing amateur golf against with him for 40 years, serve some jail time a decade ago for some fraud stuff. I think actually he was selling cocaine and math. There you have it. Joey Ferrari. TC to your to your point, the tiebreaker question was going to be what's the highest single round ever shot at the US Open, which

happened at the Myopia Hunt Club. Our guy JD Tucker shot 157 in the first. I just remember playing there in the head pro like just absolutely bragging about that. Yeah, you know, I think you got a letter from the USGA All right, well that's gonna bring a rap to our preview podcast We'll be back Wednesday with happy hour as well And of course, we'll have live shows at the end of every episode Stay tuned on Wednesday for our picks all of our who will win who won't win all of our Fun fan dual plays all that stuff and a lot of news and quotes and everything we'll get to as well on Wednesday. So two things. Sorry. First of all, Kevin Gates, shout out here.

One, go listen to our course preview. One of my favorites we've ever done. Awesome stuff from Jeff Hall and just great combo between you and me. Also, a lot of people are starting to chat about DJ's 18th hole in 2016, potentially being the greatest hole ever played. Jamie Kennedy's been posting that out. Truly must credit Tron Carter there. And it was, I can't take credit. Like it's just reality, that's the truth.

And I'm glad everybody's coming around to it. It's like discovering gravity. You made that on the way out, Cody. Have a great US Open week. Thank you so much for tuning in live or wherever you're listening to it. Back on. I thought he was gonna play Kevin Gates.