No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1022: Thursday at the U.S. Open
Episode Date: June 13, 2025J.J. Spaun (-4) is your solo leader after round 1 of the 2025 United States Open at Oakmont. Thriston Lawrence (-3), Si Woo Kim (-2), Brooks Koepka (-2), and Sungjae Im (-2) round out your top 5. We ...run down your stories of the day, discuss the leaders and Rd 1 disappointments, talk Oakmont setup, update our winner predictions, and more. Presented by High Noon. Support our sponsors: High Noon - Sun's Up! Oars & Alps - take the skin quiz! Golf Pride - code NLU at checkout USGA - Get a Handicap! Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Newsletter sign up for U.S. Open Mystery Box: subscribe.nolayingup.com/giveaway Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up live show presented as always by our friends at high noon, round one of the 2025 United States Open Championship.
Almost in the book, still some guys out there on the golf course.
But we had to cut into the peacock coverage.
We're not waiting until the end of the peacock coverage.
I took it off TV.
Sorry, the show's starting early.
The Carter brothers slash Schuster brothers are here.
Mr. TC, hello, how are you?
I'm great. I'm great
So I think we're like two hours into cock coverage. I had to wear just a shout out for my guy
Tori's big big Eagles guy massive since childhood huge Eagles fan. That is the voice of Neil Schuster. Hello Neil
So I was greeting. Good evening. I've been a little MIA this week. Been a busy one but I'm fired up to be here. It's your father's US Open,
your grandfather's US Open. I thought the course held up well. Is it? Is it your grandfather's US
Open? I was reading the X app that it's most definitely not. It held up well. I'm ready to
argue that point. There was a TPC Oakmont joke in there. There was somebody that said they were
going to turn, they were going to make January 6th look like a cookout in revolt
of this thing that might have been ingested. I got a good laugh out of that one, but you're
in the laughter as well, Mr. DJ Pi. Hello, Pi man.
Greetings guys, United States Open Week. Always fun, fun to be with you, fun to have one round
in the books almost, right? We're almost there and you know, I think we got a little bit
of everything that we were waiting for. Was it a big explosive car wreck of carnage?
No, but that's why it's a four-day golf tournament.
People need to manage their expectations, I think, Solly, is how I'm feeling.
That's what I read on the X app too from one guy as well.
We've got a big, full, full day today, Cody, don't we?
We got a full agenda that we're about to get through today. We are going to start. I'm going to ask you guys, you know, I want to send the question to you guys. What's the story of the day? Of course, going to run down the top of the leaderboard. JJ spawn. Tristan Lawrence, see who Kim Brooks kept TC's guy Rasmus near guard Peterson. You know, lots. Lots of rounds we're gonna talk about there.
We're gonna talk a little Oakmont in general.
Neil has prepared a nice little segment here,
train wrecks of the day.
Maybe not as big as some people would have liked,
but I still think there were train wrecks out there.
There's still carnage.
We're gonna rule out a couple guys.
Of course you can't win it on Thursday.
TC, you know that.
You can't win it on Thursday, but you can lose it. I'm going
to demand that you guys give me a couple names of people who
lost it today. Maybe take a little watch at the cut line.
See what's going there. We'll give a little thumbs up,
thumbs down. Who's making the cut? Who's not? See if we got
any updated winter predictions. A lot of Scotty picks. Let's
see if he's still hanging around on people's board. But
Solly, where should we start, man?
Where do you want to go first?
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Well guys, I wanna throw it around.
Let's just talk a little story of the day here,
round one of the United States Golf Open.
Neil, I wanna throw it to you first.
First draft pick, what was your story
of the day out there today?
I think the horses just coming out of the gates
a little flat, man.
You know, kind of the top three you got,
especially Scotty just looked flat,
especially on the back nine.
And I think similar story for Rory
looked really sharp on the front nine.
And then he's in the morning wave.
He just had, it's just a skanky finish.
And then of course blew off media,
which is becoming a kind of just a tradition
unlike any other the past three months.
Um, so I don't know.
I, I three months, three over four over for Rory.
Um, but that was, um, and then Bryson three over, right.
He, he came out and bogey the first hole, Mr.
Or he just didn't really see none of them seem to get off the bus stage.
You know, now a lot of golf left.
I don't think any of them,
I don't think plus four is out of it,
but I don't feel good about those three.
I believe the odds, Sali, are saying that Scotty
is still the favorite to win at plus three,
which is very, very interesting.
But he just didn't, he didn't look,
he didn't look super sharp.
I know he has-
Rom has passed it rome is
plus 550 scotty is plus 650 as of 7 17 eastern time okay that sounds a little bit more believable
for me um what's the real lead i mean i don't i don't think that there is a real lead after a
thursday at the u.s open right i mean like right now, we're gonna set Are you saying just the guys that one or what
this? Yeah, I mean, like, what's gonna be? Yeah, like, who do you
think? What do you think the lead is after tomorrow? I guess?
I think it sticks around three under four under I think it kind
of stays like right at right where it is. And I think it
seemed like that's what happened with with DJ in 2017. One other
thing I want to say before wanna say before I pass the ball
for an open three to one.
A lot of stories the day here, Neil, a lot of stories.
Well, is that-
Scotty Robb, Bryson, Corey.
One more, horses, horses was my story.
The reason I was thinking it was kinda your father's
US Open is you got some-
You gonna put your helmet on, Neil?
Some weirdos up at the top of the leaderboard,
like classic, you know, come on, JJ Spahn,
you know I love him, Kam Skataboo,oo like bogey free 66 I love that shit but you know thirst and Lawrence
like got some guys you're like ah my god what am I watching here like that's kind of like
what you're getting from an old school US open a little bit which I think was the model
we're like Belmont for sure it was I just got the helmet joke deals horse riding helmet. I got it. I think that was in the models, right? Like we're
kind of talking about that almost like a more more like a
feature than a bug. I think in some of the previews was like,
man, this place is interesting. It's not going to be only, you
know, thoroughbreds the whole time. It's going to allow some
other, you know, interesting styles of play, which, you know,
you talked to me on like a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, I'm styles of play, which, you know, you talked to me on like a
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. I'm like, oh, that's great. And you
talked to me on Thursday afternoon and JJ spawns bogey
free leading the golf tournament. I'm like, okay, well
we got we have three more. We got a lot of golf left. We got
a lot of golf left, but I'm with you on on the horses. Neil,
I think that that was the story of the day was a slow start,
but not quite out of it. It's kind of an interesting place
that I think a lot of those
dudes are in. I would almost say I think Rory got off the bus.
He just he only made it to like the first exit was like, I got
to get I started spinning out or something, you know, car sick,
I got to get out of here. Scotty was kind of the same thing,
just a little bit of a slow bleed from him. But it's all I
throw to you. What do you got? What's what's left on the board?
Yeah, sorry
Sebstraka shooting 78. I don't know what's left on the board Neil kind of
I went an inch wide or a mile wide an inch deep you could dig dig, you know
Come on go drill for some holes somewhere you dig though. You got a call before you dig. What's that number?
Julie called Julie. No, I don't know what you're talking about for natural gas lines TC for I don't know. I'm not a homeowner. So I can't tell you my story today was going to be Scotty. You know, I would not say definitely not say he played himself out of the golf tournament, but just a really missed opportunity to just go do what Scotty does. And he would have been right there like just shooting even par around today. Just he was sloppy. but honestly, man, Brooks Koepka might be a decent sized story.
Uh, I mean, it's, it's been a meme on this podcast for years of like how many times we've
forgotten about this guy and he just makes a rise up a major championship board on Thursday.
And you feel like an idiot.
I'm not going to kick myself on this one.
I mean, he had absolutely no form.
Some books had him going off at like 90 to one, uh, ahead of this week.
And I'm not like positive it's
gonna last for for 72 holes. But there was a lot of signs of like US Open Brooks that are like, Hey, 72 hole, here's the
strategy. We'll add them all up at the end, see where we stand. I'm not going to get caught my hand caught in the cookie
jar anywhere. I'm not going to make mistakes. He made a couple of, but like that's just going to happen. It just was kind of like the golf course imposed a couple of mistakes on him more than he like made errors and
That's a non not an insignificant storyline from this Thursday. No, I'm with you
I'm gonna I'm gonna not apologize for missing that one. I mean since okay
I don't think he's had a top ten at a major and not only that it's like not even been close
Hasn't made a cut at any of the majors this year.
No real signs of life, even on live coming in.
I mean, T33, T17, T30, T18 in his last,
however many that is, four live starts.
Like it's not been great, but there is something
a little bit like the universe is okay.
You know, tough driving place to hit the right sides
of the greens and Brooks is doing it is is
comforting.
In a warning sign is he has been the 69th best American over the
last six months. And I should have seen I should have noted
that part. That was a little too on bread. I'm curious which
Brooks we're gonna get. Sorry, TC. Is it gonna with an
interview? Is it gonna be like, you know, how fucking easy this
is for me? Like, yeah, obviously. Or is it going to be, you know, how hard I've been working,
you know, like how I just been a bust in my ass. I can't decide.
I'm going to bet on that. This is really easy for me, Brooks. This week,
I got a reporter just tweeted this out. Question.
Everyone always points back to the comment at Bethpage, five, 10 players,
whatever can win this week. Do you still think of yourself that way?
Or has it changed at all? I mean, I don't talk about it. You
guys talk about it. Question. It was your quote, though, Keppke.
It was I said it once now everybody repeats it.
Yeah,
well, he's off that he's off at 718 am tomorrow morning off of
number 10. That's a pretty quick turnaround for that knee.
And for, you know, someone who's, who's had some health issues, I wonder if I'm very curious to see how he plays tomorrow.
Is his knee still bugging him?
Or you're going to like, Oh, I'm not hurt. Why ask if I'm hurt dog.
You kidding me? Uh, well, you could get the ed, read like, um, you know,
I'm putting my heart up hurt dog
You know, he might go that route. You never know athletes don't get hurt bro tough
They get injured. Sorry, they don't get hurt TC anything else left on the board top stories of the day
No, I think just lurkers. I think there's some guys lurking
You know looking at it you've got
We can get into Rasmus near guard Peterson sung J and at it, you've got, we can get into Rasmus, Neergarth Peterson, Sung
J and Ben Griffin, you know, Ryder Kaplak, Ben Griffin at this point.
But no, like I think you've got Rom, you've got Adam Scott, Big Shot Bob, Henley, Spieth,
Morikawa, I don't know, all those guys kind of at even there.
You got Hovland at one over.
Like I think there's just, it's setting up.
It's a setup day.
And I think it's setting up to be, uh, there's some, there's some dogs lining up to,
you know, maybe, maybe come for a play date tomorrow.
It wasn't like, uh, some of those first rounds of the masters that we've got, or
even us opens have passed where it's like, oh man, like four of the dudes
I wanted to watch like just played their way out of it. That didn't really happen today.
I don't think a lot of those guys are kind of in that fatty fatty middle, which I think
is a very good thing. And hopefully we get through tomorrow with all of them kind of
on the right side of the cut line. But looking towards the top of the board, we've got JJ
spawn leading the way for under bogey free 68 for bogey free six.
Don't do my guy like that. Or JJ Spahn of course. We have Tristan, don't call me Thriston Lawrence,
three under 67 for him. I believe it has not made the cut at a major since last year where he finished T4 at the open.
We have Brooks, we talked about Sewoo Kim, nice round of golf from him.
I believe leading the field and strokes gained
approach of coming off his first ever top 10 in a major.
By the way, which kind of kind of surprised me at least a little bit at the PGA, his last
start. TC, you mentioned Ben Griffin also at one under, also coming off a T8 at the PGA, his last start. And TC, you mentioned Ben Griffin also at one under,
also coming off a T8 at the PGA.
This is playing in his first ever,
the only thing that scared me away from him,
playing his first ever US Open
and comes out and shoots under par in his first round.
So impressive stuff from him.
So I know you put together
a little sustainability models here.
I think we wanna look at the top of the board here.
I think this is helpful for the people. Let's do a little power
rankings. You want to do it most sustainable to least sustainable or vice
versa? Well I got four unsustainables and I got three guys up there that I think
are sustainable if you'll allow it. And this is not just, this is not straight
just looking at the putting and saying who had the flukiest day. Though I'll
start with that at the top. JJ's fun. This is a pretty it is I'm picking a
giant use this high test is included in this as well. JJ
spawn is going to the top of the list though he was second in
putting for the day. bogey free rounds. Both of those things are
not going to happen on Friday, Saturday, Saturday, after
contact or just great charts. The guy's got a low center of
gravity. Okay, well, I love barreling on the distance. Come on. He's
a third down back. OK, and this is this is sorry.
Undersized there down back. We need an Ashton Gentile to get
all the way through this one. Somebody that can can carry it
35 times a game. Stop stuck out to me on JJ sponsor is hitting
12 greens and shooting 66 is impressive. He had like 26 pots
or something. I mean great day and he's a really solid player. Sponsor is hitting 12 greens and shooting 66 is impressive.
He had like 26 pots or something. I mean great day and he's a really solid player.
I don't mean to like make light of it at all. I just I'd be very surprised if the
the way he played today lasted for 72 holes. So that's number one of I don't
think this is sustainable. Tristan Lawrence right behind him in
putting he was third as the time to me putting these notes together. He drove
it also way straighter than he normally does and just straight up like he just does not have the profile
to sustain this for 72 holes also didn't it trune but he did so we'll continue to monitor that one
but I would consider his performance to be significantly unsustainable. He's a big game
hunter solid he's missed seven of the last eight cuts on the euro tour but he's in the championship
performance you know can't count them out here.
What if he turns into like the South African Brooks, you know, or Louis
who's Tazen?
Yeah.
Maybe he just needs these.
Like he needs the bright lights, man.
He needs the juice.
Yeah.
Uh, I'm going to flip the way I usually do this completely for the next guy.
You mentioned the number one in strokes, getting approached as Seewoo Kim.
That's unsustainable.
All right.
See, we'll get, gets hot at times. He All right. See, we'll get gets hot at times.
He's not going to do that over 72 holes and he's not a very good putter.
He had a bad putting day.
Uh, I just, I truly don't think he can maintain that level of ball
striking over the course of four days.
So I'm going to throw that sustainability into, into, uh, into the equation.
Cody's really not going to like this one.
Solly, what if we real quick on see what, what if we just haven't seen
see who's best golf sustained yet?
Like Siwoo, like he keeps showing these flashes. He's always showing flashes.
He's just really hard to predict and it's been like he's been around like a
decade now. We're doing this. We got a pretty big sample size. Yeah. Yeah.
Was that the 2017 players? It was. That's a long time.
Right. I was when DJ won the U S open. That was a, and then 2018 media day,
they wanted to recreate his, sorry, his driver off the cart path. And they're
like, yeah, you know, we know you have a Callaway driver. Like, can we use your
driver instead of like his own gamer? I was like, I mean, guys, he hit my driver
off the car path. It was it was disgusting.
We're shitting on him for stuff. Not shitting on him. He's 17.
But we're, we're absolutely glazing speed that every at every
turn.
We haven't we haven't said a word about speech yet.
No, I just generally over the last,
over the last decade, or five months.
For sure. We can't I can't wait to talk about Spieth's outfit. The white party
outfit.
Those many Spieth versus Siwoo Kim conversations that we have. Yeah.
Anyway, he was having freak offs on the short putz.
Last and he did not get in the house. It looks like he bogeyed his final hole the night.
Cameron Young had an out of body putting day. He was six and 16 putting today.
He does not do that with any normal regularity.
So I'm gonna have to caution flag that one as unsustainable.
I hate that for-
Can we bring in his lawyer for response, rebuttal there?
Cody, you got anything, you're just gonna take that
or you got anything to say to that?
He sustained.
I mean, he's spot on.
That's the issue with this game, right? But the good thing is we're hot last week too.
And a little bit of game travel.
He was seems like three wood faceoff last week.
He's been positive the last five events.
Wow.
What did you factor that into the large language model?
So like positive and five events.
I mean, he talked about him and his dad just going back to basics,
setting the routine, right?
Having their little putting station set up like he's been
putting really, really good. But he he belongs to the same
society or whatever it may be a big tone whenever it gets like
on a hot run immediately jamming it into neutral. And sometimes
even in reverse is just seen this one before I've seen it. I
just don't think this could be sustained. Please I will own
that. Big tone planet. We're all rooting for it. Big tone had a tough one TC. Big tone got in the field though TC
TC tried to tell us today that Fionn wasn't in the field. He just hadn't teed off yet
6-17. Well, I'm excited to hear who is sustainable and this might surprise you
Number one on my list is Ben Griffin and it did not come with a crazy
good ball striking day.
I'm just like this heater feels very real.
It feels like he's taking the.
I don't think it's going to last
all the way through September,
but he's a very serious golfer.
He's doing this in a lot of different conditions.
A lot of different, you know, styles of play.
Like this is just very real golf and that
100 par round today was quite impressive. Well balanced. He you know he gained play like this is just very real golf and that 100 par round today was quite
impressive well balanced uh you know he gained mostly around the green but that could be a
reflection of leading in the right spots on this golf course so uh you know nothing really jumped
off the screen but just a really solid all-around day and i i think he's going to stick around so
and i i had this saved but i have another one for it. Cause DJ had some round table questions later,
but I, for Ben Griffin specifically,
I feel like I watched a little bit of his round this morning
and also watched a lot of them at Memorial.
And the way he lashes at the driver,
like I love, I see what he's doing.
Like after, you know, going to TPI and understanding
like the ground force reactions
and pushing off your front foot, like that's all I see now with these pros when I'm, when I'm watching them swing
and he does that really well, but I find the swing aesthetically unpleasing to just be completely
honest. It's very fundamentally sound, but it doesn't, I don't like it very much, which is
totally fine. Uh, but the way that he misses, he has that big right miss. And he was missing in that long rough at Memorial a ton.
And just like that was screaming unsustainable,
unsustainable at me.
And I was actually had him earmarked.
I wasn't on any of the preview content,
but I was like circle him as a guy
that's not gonna do well here.
So that's just, I guess he's just got gifted hands
and like you said, missing in the right spots.
Well for the eye test, it doesn't pass the eye test for me.
What do you guys think?
I think he also, I mean, just flipping through his round real quick.
Like, I mean, he also just like takes the left side out of play, you know?
And if you can do that, I think that's a big ass part of playing tournament
golf, right?
It's just knowing kind of, you know, that's the Scotty formula.
It's just like, it's, it's not going to go right.
It might go left from time to time, but we can deal with that. Like it's just, it's, it's, if you know, it's not going to go one way, I think the Scotty formula. It's just like it's it's not gonna go right It might go left from time to time but we can deal with that like it's just it's it's if you know
It's not gonna go one way. I think is a big help. Okay. What do you guys think Griffin is ranked in the world right now?
21 yeah, I was gonna say in the mid 20s. I'll say 24 15. Yeah
Obviously, that's the crooked OWGR and all that.
And so I think I'm almost punishing him because of my own eye test.
I'm almost working this out in my live here, but I just have, I kind of find it fascinating
to watch even though, you know, I see the way he goes at the ball and I'm like, ah,
man, I don't love that, but it definitely like works. And fundamentally, I see what you're doing. It's the head movement one and Neil, it's hard for
me to be like, this guy was like, I know the mortgage thing is insurance, whatever it was,
has played out. Four years ago, you were you weren't even playing golf anymore. A ton of guys that just
like bloom this late after making a chase hard run at it. And he got his foot back in the door. I think that's the depressing part about like where we
are as a sport right now, right? He hasn't gained that much distance though. Like it doesn't really
fully check. I mean, granted, like everybody's chasing distance and sliding up. So he's like
180 ball speed. He's not like gaining on people these days, which is kind of crazy. But it's not like a, it's not a, not a Blonto Griffin playbook TC to use.
By all accounts, he seems like a really genuinely awesome guy. And so like, I don't want me,
you know, saying I don't like the way a swing looks to it is, but I don't mean it. I don't mean
it offensively. It's just like, honestly, it like, it's like, Jesus, man. I don't, it offensively, it's just like honestly, it's like, Jesus, man.
It looks like he's just lashing at the ball in a way that should be punished with bigger
misses sometimes.
I think what's interesting about him is, at least for me, he's kind of the latest embodiment
of, you know, it's kind of the tiger winning takes care of everything sort of situation. But the evolution in my mind, but from like, that guy is an NPC V, the most nondescript
player. This is exactly what's wrong with the vanilla PGA tour to just slowly like,
oh, he did it again. Huh? Okay. Oh man. He played well again. Oh man. He might be, uh,
now he's doing it at the US open. Like, wow, he just keeps showing up. It's like a little micro version of of my evolution with Scotty, you know,
and that's I don't know.
Just eventually you got to hand it to him.
And that's I think the point I'm at where I'm just like, all right, man,
the seesaw is flipped here and now I'm just like, yeah, keep doing it.
This is this is impressive.
I mean, it's always the other Ryder Cup team yet.
The Ryder Cup is played in September.
It's the end of the year., like match play event that they play
every two years, every two years, despite me campaigning for it to be every year. So, and they set the
rosters actually in August, I think it is so we will actually do a ton of content around that when
when those days come around. I already put Rasmus nearirgaard-Peterson on my team. You say a lot of things on a lot of these pods.
What did Tommy play today?
Did you start on this team?
Tommy shot 74. He's still in this thing.
He is one good round tomorrow and we're right back.
Ben Griffin might be testing one out live on you.
He might be Seabiscuit.
He might be like he's a he's a thoroughbred that we didn't even see coming.
Undersized, you know, unbelievable.
He needed the rest of his generation to get ahead of him
so he could just chase him down.
Yeah, he's definitely a chaser.
I love it.
Can I run this real quick by you guys?
The average ball speed on tour in 2020 was 169.71.
What do you think it is in 2025?
One eight, no, 176.
What was it, 165?
169.7 in 2020. I mean like 179. 176. What was it 165 169.7 in 2020. I mean like 179 or 176 174.37 which sounded like a lot
before Neil did 11 majors for Nelly. It's literally like 15 yards right so like three yards per
mile an hour or something. It depends on what your smash factor is not everybody has a
on average. These guys these guys usually hit it out of the out of the middle pretty well
A lot of them don't because because the driver heads too big
Anyways second on my list for sustainable
I had kept good not not even looking at the numbers and I know it was it was not like the prettiest ball striking day
It was good short game day for him. Now. I watched a lot of his round today
It was like ooh. Oh that looks that looks like That really does look like him. A quite a clean card. Uh, and I,
I respected what kept it did today. And you're not going to like the last one.
It's like the definition of unsustainable, but I'm putting it in there.
Anyways, Jord hit the shit out of the ball today.
Do I have any faith on him with him over on over a four footer right now? I don't,
I truly don't, but, uh, he had a,
a better day with the putter after a very tough start to the
day with putter. But was 10th and strokes gain approach, and
just kind of a little buoyant out there. There were a lot of
times in that round that could have got away from him today.
And it didn't I think like at his core right now, Jordan's
hitting the ball nice. And I think he's, I think he's gonna
top 15 this tournament, which may not that may not sound like that bold, but I think he's gonna top 15 this tournament, which may not sound like that bold,
but I think he's gonna stick around and be somewhat involved.
I don't think he's a threat to win it as of right now,
but I think he can sustain where he's at right now.
Stick your neck out.
I loved the stat that we were talking about
on the happy hour the other day
of the guys who basically have above average distance
and above average accuracy
or whatever it was, like a standard deviation above
on both of those.
When Jordan showed up on that list, I could feel solid
like pulling his hair out of all the people being like,
Jordan Spee, really?
He's driving the ball well?
It's like, dude, we've been trying to like wave every car
and pull over.
We gotta tell you the good news about Jordan Spee.
He's driving the shit out of it right now.
Boys club, boys club, boys club.
This could be a good fit.
Odds on, baby, odds on.
Could be a good fit.
I think the birdie on 16.
The birdie on 16 kind of papered over some things.
But birdies on 16 and 17, bogey on 18.
Classic case though, TC, if you based it off of his
reactions to each shot, you'd think he was five over
I mean, it's it's it's a total freak off teach like just guys going nuts everywhere. Yeah
God we gotta be really careful with this one. I know you're right
It's still fun though. Let me let me corral the reins here for a second
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Did you guys see the other day they posted something golf
pride did about the like they did pencils. They're like, Hey,
we'll produce these pencils if we get this many likes or
whatever. Did you see the pencils? Yeah, they were the
grips. Yeah, it mocked up. It was a cool. It was the coolest thing I've ever seen. I want like a million.
You have a, you have a golf pencil. Yeah. Since when have you been, I didn't realize you were
collecting golf pencils, TC. You know, I love a good collection. I got the sticker board back here,
scorecards. Yeah. Have you been doing that for a while? A long time now. Oh, like probably six,
seven years. Huh? How about that? I'd love to see that. I'd love to explore the collection sometime, TC.
I would too.
I haven't really.
I just throw them all into a jar.
I don't have them at all organized or anything like that.
That's neither here nor there.
Well, rounding out the rest of the people under par just so they get a mention here.
SungJM, 2wunder, I think we've all kind of been waiting for that one at a major championship.
Let's see that continue for another three days.
I think that would be very fun.
Thomas Detry regained in some form after looking like a stud earlier in the year.
And Jonathan Rom at one under drove the absolute shit out of the ball today.
This feels unbelievably real to me.
And I think he was one of the pre-tournament favorites that was slept on just a hair he has been mr. US Open and I don't know if you guys have
anything to add to that other than I'm very excited to watch John Rahm and
listen to John Rahm and just have the whole John Rahm experience the next
three days couldn't agree more yeah it's I picked him not to win so I might have
a may call that's okay though you kind of you know get in the second place guys
always that's always an honor as the gentleman's game you want to get as not to win. So I might have a may a call. That's okay though. You kind of, you know, getting the second place guys.
Oh, is it? That's always an honor as the gentleman's game.
You want to get as close as possible. And I'm going to stay,
I'm going to stay with that. I like to look dangerously.
I think we're skipping over Sung Jay pretty quickly. Like he,
he was five under at one point, um, played three and four
poorly, you know, drop back to three, but I think Sung Jay,
I like where Sung J is at. I think Sung J is going to be a force to be reckoned with out there. He's driving it well,
didn't really hit his irons all that well today based on the stats and, you know, chipped his
butt off. I think if he can clean up the iron play a little bit, like Sung J feels very sustainable.
I think last year just soured me so much,
missing the cut at those first three majors
and just kind of like, what are we doing, man?
Is this guy the guy we think he is or is he not?
And then he's bounced back and he's played,
I mean, he played well.
I forgot, honestly, Countess forgot he was T5
at the Masters.
My attention was quite tight on-
T7 at the Open last year too.
Yeah, my attention was quite tight on Bryson
and Rory at the Masters.
I missed that. But then he bounces back and like misses the cut at Quill at Quill Hollow.
So it's like, I don't know. I never quite know what to make.
And so I'm not meaning to skip over him, but I am kind of like a let's see it, man.
I hate to wake you up on Sunday.
Yeah, I hate to be burned by him in picks so many times'll talk about this talk about you when you get when it gets serious
But I'm afraid some Jake goes in that category these days. That's fine. That's fine
TC I this I would be you know remiss if I did not give you the chance to talk about Rasmus
Near guard Peterson who is now bogeyed his last two holes to fall back to one under
And I think that's a good point I would be remiss if I did not give you the chance to talk about Rasmus Neergaard-Peterson, who has now bogeyed his last two holes to fall back to one
under after getting it to three under.
Is this is this sustainable?
Is this they are who we thought they were type of situation or is this what?
I mean, he just knocked it on the green, you know, on 17.
So should should have a two-pup birdie there.
Get back to under. Yeah, I mean he's a stud
He's a he's a thoroughbred so to continue our equine theme tonight
He's you know, he's already on my Ryder Cup team
I put him on that what four or five weeks ago and recorded that so
Yeah, all good. I'm
Full send I think he's he'll He'll be there at least until Saturday.
I just want to point out, I think he was through like six holes and TC put this in our slack quote,
I don't think I'm getting enough respect for Neirgaard Peterson being on my Ryder Cup team
last month. Last month is all caps. I said add it through the long list of things
that you don't get enough credit for TC. I think that was an early call there.
Great call by TC there.
Just wanna get everybody up to date here.
So coming off of three missed cuts
is where we find him right now
to include the US PGA championship.
His best finish so far this year
is the second into Puerto Rico open.
But I will say he's in a tough spot,
being one of these lone euros that come over
trying to take advantage of that PGA Tour card. He's just cutting his teeth out there.
It's like any good young horse does. Thank you. Thank you. We just need to make sure we got a good
jockey on the bag. He's also played, you know, it's disgusting that you said his best finishes that because he he was solo fourth at the Hainan classic
BDE was second at the at the Cotter Masters
So anything that has classic or Masters in it, we know we got to elevate. Is that a national open? That's a Masters
Yeah, it's a national Masters
And And rounding out the under par blokes is James Nicholas holding tight at one under, which
10 people under par, I think brings me to my next kind of topic here. Impressions of
Oakmont. I'm seeing a lot of TPC Oakmont, TPC Pittsburgh. This course is a joke. I just,
I don't get it. I don't know if it's a bit. There's 10 people under par out of 156. No wind and 13 inches of
rain. Yeah, I just I think it's like I'm cool. I think that I
think this is kind of what we were expecting. Leading scores
the same as it was last time around. So what were your
impressions of Oakmont today? I greatly enjoyed it. I thought
again, I feel like every Thursday aside from Shinnecock,
we get the same weather like the wind does not ever fucking blow
on Thursdays for us opens for whatever reason for as long as
we've done this show. And I'm desperate for that to happen. So
we don't have to do this Thursday conversation of USGA and set
up like I, I honestly and truly don't know what they could have
done differently. Now again, this is a Thursday setup. This is not a Saturday, Sunday setup. There's 156 guys that got to get through the field.
They are not going to put the pins in the hardest spot on 18 of the green. So that's like, that's the most extreme version of what they could do Thursday.
Sully, last night, everyone was freaking out about the whole locations. Like, Oh, my God, it's gonna be impossible with these whole locations. What were people looking at? They were tough. They were not easy. Yeah, I don't think they're
going to be easy any day. Right. But I mean, like I said, 10 guys broke par. This was the hardest
opening round of the US Open that we've had since Shinnecock when the wind blew on that opening
round. It played six and a half shots over par that day. This was the hardest going all the way back to Oakmont in 2016.
I mean, it was harder, it played harder than it did that opening round.
It was definitely harder than Chambers Bay.
I didn't go back farther than that to say like, it's the hardest opening round
we've had in a decade without conditions, ignoring that Shinnecock day.
So I thought, I'm not usually a thick rough guy, but the fairways are wide enough
that it feels like
guys have a chance off the tee.
It feels like when you're hitting in the thick, rough,
you deserve to be there,
and you deserve the punishment that's come with it.
So I didn't feel like I was watching guys
just hack out of rough all day long.
There's enough variables of, you could be in a ditch,
you could be in a bunker.
It just was a very different experience.
And I think wing foot is what we always compare it to.
I think Oakmont is passing the test of like, if you're a fan of golf, I don't
know why you would not like this golf course or this setup, but that's, you
might just be wishing for something that doesn't exist.
It's my opinion.
Can I, uh, not, I wouldn't call it a counterpoint because I appreciate all
of that and I enjoyed, uh, the course.
Now I've never been there.
I don't have a lot of familiarity with it
other than some of the stuff I saw that you posted
and I have not locked in on preview content this week.
I'm struggling to identify,
I'm struggling with orientation on the course.
And maybe it's because there's no trees,
but a lot of the holes look the same to me
as somebody that's just consuming it from TV.
And it looks really hard.
And I like, I think the place, I guess what I'm trying to say a little bit is it, photography
is magnetic of Oakmont.
Like when you show the aerials and the drone footage, it's like, oh my God, this place
looks awesome.
But I couldn't tell you if that is number four or number 14. And so that's where
there's not a lot of landmarks for me to lock in on. And some of it might be, I had the quad box
going all day, so I feel a little ADHD. It's like I watched a ton of golf, but I didn't really consume
any of it. And so that might be a user error. But I haven't, I think the difference with Augusta is
you have such a familiarity with every hole that you kind of know your way around the quad box a little bit better. And I feel like I'm getting a little overwhelmed with the same looking hole. But subtle challenges that I am not able to peel the onion back on because I haven't played it. I haven't been there in person. So that's just my honest Thursday feel for it. And I hope that changes over the course of the next three days. And I think it will.
honest Thursday feel for it. And I hope that changes over the course of the next three days. And I think it will.
And I think honestly would attribute that to Thursday, Friday, two T starts. Like I
look up and I'm like, wait, what are they on? I can't tell. I know by the weekend, he
started all that's factoring in. And I saw some fun stuff. I want to call out. I absolutely
love the ditches. And I think that if I loved it, that they're being featured and they're talking about
them on the broadcast, I think more golf courses, especially public golf courses should put these
ditches in. If you don't want to take care of bunkers or spend the money to put in new bunkers,
grass ditches and grass, almost hazards is an awesome feature to a whole DJ. I remember from
strapped in New Mexico, that just like crappy course that we played the first
day had had some of these features. And I just thought it
really, really helped take a boring course and make it
interesting. Yeah. So I just full coast like,
said hard to maintain.
That's the the heart for a public. If you're talking about
low, low maintenance golf courses that are hard to
maintain. Yeah, getting mowers in and out of there like and not making it so it's lost ball in there is is yeah, okay fair enough
I just I think it's a cool. It's a feature. I'd like to see more of in golf. I guess it broke off
I think another thing that's struck. That's making I
Totally agree on 2t start. I think NBC again
They use too many tower cams that are looking straight down and you can't see out instead of you're looking down instead of out.
Because Neil, I think like the front nine on the back nine are very different to like
you get across the interstate there and it's, I just wish I wish they brought that out more.
I think the other thing is just like they're trying to show everybody in the field, at
least once.
I know you can feel that they're bouncing to show everybody in the field at least once. I know you can feel that. They're bouncing around like crazy.
And I think that just kills the flow when you're watching, especially on the main broadcast.
I called it out. It was like a random Adam Schenck, like 15 footer that he missed at plus four.
I was like, OK, I know what I know what we're doing here at 3 15 p.m.
Not going off.
Watching the multi view and the feature group was such a was
great today because like you didn't you realize just how much
like the the broadcast just a highlight show like they're
they're miles behind certain parts and they're gonna get
caught up and all that stuff and it was
yourself was awesome. Then that's where like if you if you
thought it was too easy this morning. So they were showing
every birdie that happened this morning. And if you watch the
feature group coverage, I'm like, dude, this is looks so fucking hard, like, Lowry's throwing microphones over here. Guys are flubbing chips, like it was so much going on, on a whole to whole basis on some of the feature group.
I was watching the one with Colin and Joe. They were like talking through every shot.
It was awesome.
There was not a lot of commentary there.
More of that.
I think I think two things.
I agree with everything you guys are saying, Neil, especially having not been there.
I resonate a lot with what you're saying.
Having a tough time, you know, deciphering which hole is which.
I think it's a very hard like it's a lot of hard work
to get everything that you're getting out of it, Solly.
And I think you're totally right,
but like I'm just today where I'm like,
I'm bouncing around and I'm changing diapers
and I'm doing whatever.
That's where I'm very much with you, Neil.
I'm like, wait, what hole is this?
What's going on?
Is he on the front or the back?
And I think if you do lock in and you know the holes
and you understand like, okay,
he just hit it in that right rough, what does that mean?
It rewards all that work because the strategy
and the consequence and all of that is there.
It just, I think a lot of setups like this,
as I felt like more of a casual golf fan today,
and I think as a casual golf fan,
a lot of setups like this make the first 63 holes like kind of boring and the last nine holes like really fucking
exciting. It's like, oh my god, he drove in the rough. What's he gonna do now? And
it's really hard to watch that as like part of a highlights package. But I think
once you're in the flow, that's a different story. And then the second thing
I was gonna say is, Neil, I think everything you're saying about not
knowing which hole is which, which again I feel the same way, is another tick in the positive column for anchor sites for the US
Open.
I think if we're coming here every, we start coming here every seven years with regularity,
I think you do start to pick up like, oh, right, the 17th's drivable.
All right, the church piece on the third hole.
All right, the par three eighth.
I think you start to get a lot more of that. And it just takes time to
Yeah, because I agree with Sally, I hear and I can
understand all the stuff you love about it. I think without
the highway is the only like landmark that you have and you
don't see it much. It doesn't come into play on the, you know,
hole by hole camera stuff. There's no ocean to orient you at Pioneer. There's
no contrast with waist area of like, don't hit it there. It's
just very green from the view I'm seeing on TV, which is, you
know, you got to Yeah, I'm gonna have to lock in it over the next
three days to but but I like that, you know, if you buy in,
yeah, and you're gonna get a lot out of it, because there's a
lot of nuance and subtlety. I love the I saw a shot that Nick Taylor hit he hit like a one
back of his stance and ran like 80 yards down the green. Like,
again, I don't know what hole it was, but it was like, Oh, that's
awesome.
You can brown.
I think it I think it if you get to Saturday, Sunday, they'll
have time to set up the holes, they'll have time to show the pin positions and show what the slopes are doing around
the around the whole locations like like there was like the the sixth hole today was
so subtly difficult of where that pin was on the right side of like trying to cut up a little
fade up against that with everything sloping right to left.
If you miss right, you're totally bone like where Scotty hit it.
And I think see we absolutely stuffed one in there on that hole.
It was like that was really earned if you had seen all the other
shots trying to get in there tight.
Um, I don't know if we won't have.
I thought 12 was the same way that again, was just from listening to you guys on
the podcast and knowing that that one slopes back, back, right.
And like seeing some of those balls where they'd land is where I was kind of like,
Oh wait, this has no chance.
But again, that, that takes a lot of like homework to get ready for.
There's so much more topography out there. I think which direction each hole is going.
Like when you're out there, it makes total sense. It's kind of like Muirfield over on like the open road of where it's not like out and back.
You're bouncing around all points in the compass. And so I think
that's a big component when you're out there and they don't do a good job of necessarily showing
that on TV. I think on the difficulty side too, there's only so many levers that they can pull,
when it's like you said, when it's rained rained with no wind and then also they got to get 150
players through like I think if they turn the screws too much they're just straight up not
going to finish like the first 36 holes which I think then then it's tricky because it's supposed
to rain this weekend so how how much are we really going to get on Saturday and Sunday you know
and I guess I'm optimistic that the greens were softish today and the course held up totally fine.
Like I just don't think rain is going to ruin it.
It's not going to be good.
But also the rain element.
I mean, we experienced it in the immediate ATC.
The rain element with the rough, it adds a different layer too.
But you get that stuff wet.
Like it is legitimate.
I don't, I know these guys control even out of the fairway.
It is hard. Yes, exactly. It is hard to get golf clubs through that rough. I mean, they're literally
mowing it to stand straight up. Like that's the, that's like the, the mower setting that they have
it on. Like, uh, so wetness is going to soften the greens, but it's going to make the rough play that
much harder. And, uh, it's going to be, going to be interesting.
I think something else too is like, I think the flip side we saw some guys get tested today
with controlling their spin.
If they're putting too much spin on it
and trying to jam it into a back pin
with too much spin and getting exposed.
Well, as far as a couple of specifics,
help the people out.
What holes did you guys enjoy watching most today and why?
Sally, I'll start with you.
Easy one for me was the second hole.
There was, I mean, usually you get a short par four to PGA Tour level pros, the top level
pros.
You almost, you end up with a scatter plot that looks like, oh, well, that's clear the
strategy on this hole.
But if you look at the overhead of the second hole, like the mix of strategies and all that
stuff was crazy.
I mean, there was a guy somebody laid back Victor Perez laid back to 165 left
himself 165 in and it was I mean the hole itself today the second hole was 356
yards on the card it was the fourth hardest hole of on the entire golf course.
And it was ten doubles ten doubles on a 350 yard hole today. 16 birdies on it, but yeah,
but it was such a tough pin position,
the back left hole location,
one of those restored hole locations that they had.
And it was just a variety of,
I mean, if you missed in the left rough,
it was really, really difficult.
We saw Spieth hit it over there
and he just chunked it into the bunker,
like Smiley Cobb and said it was intentional.
Cause that was his best chance to get up and down for par.
We watched guys, if you miss in the short right rough, you could chip right up
and with a really good play, but like Lowry chipped it too far and went over the
green, had to chip back down. Uh, Victor Hovland hit one of the, I think it was
Hovland, like one of the worst controlled spin shots or he had, who had one?
Oh, I thought you were talking about Hovland when he, when he kind of tried to hit
that little one foot chunk and ended up throwing it one. Oh, I thought you were talking about when he when he kind of tried to hit that little one foot chunk and ended up
awning it over.
Oh, yeah.
There was that was that one.
So it was Lowry before he even hit it over the green hit one of the worst ripping spinners to that back left hole
location you could have. It was everything I appreciate about all the slope in those greens and the challenge that
they put forth like expanding that little area past the bunker that we talked about with Jeff Hall, that in
that little neck encourage guys to hit drivers up there. And so
we actually saw a variety of strategies. So that was that
was a 17s a full go for pretty much everybody. But two was an
interesting, uh, strategic development.
TCH, you have a favorite today?
Um, I mean, I thought one in 10 played cool.
Like, I think one, I just, I could watch guys play it into those greens all day long.
And like, especially here in America, you just don't have to see guys land it short
and run it on.
And so the ball on the ground, that's, that's what it's all about for me is the ball on
the ground.
And that's one of the rare instances in domestic golf. And
we get to see that. So it's crazy that one of my takeaways from watching the US Open today was like,
I have zero, like truly zero interest to go tee it up and play this golf course. I don't need to do
that, but God, I would love to just walk around with a cold beer and a wedge and a putter and
just go hang out on some of these greens. Cause like seeing the short game shots that some of the guys were left with
and some of the ups and downs and train racks and all that stuff.
Like it was so fun to watch. Like you said, once,
once the ball does get on the ground and rolls into some of these spots,
the artistry that it took to either get it up and down or avoid a double or
take your medicine or it was, God, it was really, really enjoyable.
Uh, Neil, what about you?
I'm going to abstain from favorite hole cause it, it wouldn't be an educated take.
It doesn't know.
I kind of like them all.
Yeah, I like them all.
Uh, PC, you said something Slack earlier, like
Celebrates, celebrates Kevin Gates, entire catalog.
Yeah, exactly. Shout out to two phones. Uh, I would, um,
God, I lost my train of thought. Oh, you said a little bit more
short grass around the greens would be, I agree with you on that. I feel like there
were some, it feels like there's always an entrance. There's a run up or a way, a short
grass in the front of the greens, but I, I didn't see a lot of other places where it
wasn't just thick rough behind and to the sides of the greens. And I think
they're, I don't know, I maybe I'm, I'm off.
It could make this place impossible.
grass around the
fields. I'm normally in support of that TC. But I think with how
severe the slopes are, like you almost need the balls to stop or
else they just run into something else. You know what I
mean? Like, you wouldn't see a lot of balls stop on the short grass. I think on how severe a lot of the surrounds are, it like funnel
into a bunker or, you know, it almost
cut it down after Friday. Like, all right, we did the cut. Now we're going to do another
cut and we're going to cut the grass down.
That would be sweet. Of course, it's a living document, you know, it should be able to
Well, sorry, I think there's some some intrigue there a little bit for like, if you
cut it short on one side, maybe.
You see guys trying to, I don't know.
It, it almost adds a little bit of strategy.
Like I gotta be over there on the short grass or I want to avoid the short grass.
Um, but now I'm just, I'm, I'm just, I'm riffing now.
Totally jam session.
Here's what you with the phone boys.
Here's the test that it passes for me.
There's not a, I'm out of position.
Let's jam it through the green
and it's gonna stop in a totally fine spot.
There's none of that, right?
That's where the thick rough part really loses me
on a lot of like PGA Tour golf courses.
But I mean, like, it's so fricking hard as it is.
I mean, course rating wise, like, I think, you know,
you can do this actually Actually, if you go to
the USGA app, there's nothing like the feeling when like the
feeling when your handicap index drops, that's not going to
happen very often at Oakmont. But the morning after around
your buddies, you check your phone, see you've lowered your
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You can track your handicap over time.
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what the handy the rating is and the slope on the championship? What is it? And I don't even think this is, you know, US open conditions. 78.4, 150 slope.
Jeez.
Which that is easier than TPC Sawgrass from a slope perspective.
There's no water and there's like, I think all the water and OB and all that stuff is
like what Jack's the slope and rating.
Yeah, for a bogey golfer.
Yeah.
But I would, I would, I would want to know how does rough factor it.
Like if they rated it during, you know, with rough.
And I also do want to say our guy Riggs, he shot what?
A hundred and he shot what?
A hundred and sixteen or something like that.
I think it was a hundred and a hundred and six, a hundred and six.
Lost to Trent Riggs.
I'm not seeing that on your gin, homie.
I'm not seeing that.
He's trying to get on the hater series.
He's making a strong case for the hater series.
Kind of Riggs versus TC haters is.
But I'm not seeing it.
Might be right in the stars.
You gotta post them all, baby.
That's the rules of golf.
That's part of it.
The gin, you got the gin.
Is there something to,
you don't not want to spoil the video?
That's the only-
You can go back and post them.
They're just gonna say,
I wish you would've posted this the same day, but they'll still let you post it. I bet it. That's, that's the only go back and post them. They're just going to say like, I wish you would post the same day,
but they'll still let you post it. Yeah. I bet it'll make its way in there. I'll, I'll ride.
Can I say just, I do want to give, I had it for the shout outs at the end, but figure I'll just
shout the USGA out now. I think they're, they have the best Pantone of blue and red,
like on the planet, the graphics for the USDA rule. And it just gets me like patriotic, you know, and you see the flags flying
on the bleachers, it rules, man.
Like the flags, the team markers, the USDA's brand refresh a few years back,
like shout out to them.
Number one.
And two, I appreciate, uh, in the coverage that I watched on the, you know, the
broadcast, I'd like the, um, like the onscreen, like get a handicap,
like, okay, that's what we're pushing this year
as an advertisement.
I'm, you know, listen, TBD,
if we get a bunch of USGA commercials,
but it's like, hey, that's not interrupting my golf watching.
It's just kind of a quick, like scan the QR code.
I just, it feels like somebody's thinking about this stuff,
being thoughtful about it, and I just wanna call that out. I just, it feels like somebody's thinking about this stuff, being thoughtful
about it. And I just want to call that out. I appreciate the effort. Big Mike.
There's something too, when you play a USGA qualifier too, like they have the USGA tees
sitting right there and it just like, yeah, makes it makes your butt pucker a little bit. It's just
like a little bit like, Oh, this is going to be hard. Like just seeing the branding, like,
this is going to be hard. Real golf today. You're thinking about the letterhead, you know,
if you get the letter,
like I'm sure that's gonna be on point.
Quick sleeve.
There's a lot of a lot of published
hand tone today.
The blow pig.
He looked like he was.
He was just a shade.
Just like a paint dip.
I think I think I think our friend
Bill nice stick.
Like a paint sample. Well, Neil, I I Tashi. I think I think train friend Bill Knight's like a paint sample.
Well, Neil, I attached you, I think train wrecks
are kind of the thing everybody's, not everybody,
a lot of people, a lot of these haters and losers
are looking for when they tune into the US Open.
What'd you dig up, Neil?
I asked you to dig up your favorite train wrecks of the day.
Yeah, and I wanted to be respectful here.
I didn't wanna go straight to like 156.
You know, you can go find that for yourself Yeah, and I wanted to be respectful here. I didn't want to go straight to like 156.
You can go find that for yourself on the scoreboard because it's like a lot of those were like
kind of just a bunch of bogeys.
So I thought about like, I thought Rory's finish was a bit of a train wreck, could go
there.
I think Lowry, he was kind of runner up here, plus nine with three doubles.
And he
also hold out on the third hole for Eagle. So that's just shoot 79 with an Eagle hole out from the fairway is like, things got
off the rails a little bit. I'm sure he was really, really kind,
as I said earlier to the staff afterwards. But I'm going with
Mark Hubbard plus six today already homeless news. I know, I
know I'm beating up on it.
And because he didn't make a par on the back nine, and I thought this was sick.
I thought it was so cool to see this scorecard.
He shot 41 on the back and, and shout out to him.
He went bogey, bogey, birdie, bogey, birdie, bogey, bogey, birdie, bogey.
I thought that was awesome.
He made a triple on 15.
And so we can go to that shot tracker.
It was a, and I thought this was a good train wreck of like a classic US Open train wreck. So he hits it in a
right bunker on 15. And he leaves one in there. We all
know what that's called. You know, okay, so now we're hitting
three from there. And then he hits three out does a really
good job of getting it back into the fairway. I don't know the
shot tracker saying it like spun right across the fairway.
There's a slope there. We can trust this. this massive slope. Yeah, that's that's right.
Yeah. Is that correct? Yes. Okay. But good for him because he looked like that that third
one was trying to do the right thing was was right up against the lip. So he took his medicine.
And then this is where it's classic us open. He he goes it looks like he's like, all right,
I got to you know, we got to go get it here. He misses long left of the stick
and puts it back in the rough,
probably like 10, 15 feet from the stick.
And then he, I don't know if he flubbed one,
but he hit it short and then he three-putted.
And it's like, God, that just sounds like
what I did at the Ike Qualifier on Tuesday, you know?
Like, ah, we're making,'re compounding mistakes DJ, just throw
that the three putt cherry on top. So I want to shout out Mark hover because I think first
I just thought the scorecard was awesome. Most of the scorecards I looked through was
just a lot of, you know, a lot of bogeys. It wasn't this exciting. But this one was
was exciting. He's not plus six, you know, he's he could still make the cut and I think the triple was just kind of like a
Mendoza line
US Open triple right there of just compounding mistakes. That's a classic one. That's good. Good spelunking there
I had just a couple of Mike, you know, sorry, I'm reporting this self reporting
My guy Andrew Novak hit three out of 14 fairways. That's just not going to quite work with the five-inch rough, I don't think.
I think he's got a rib injury. Is that right? Yeah. Do you guys want to opt out of the Novak stuff? No, no, no. I want to get back onto rooting.
Honestly, he's made so much fucking money, he could probably buy it out of of the team at this point. Yeah. So I'm not, I'm not ruling it out at all.
I also saw that the rise to the listeners...
I wouldn't put that past the 31,000.
Exactly.
That's right.
The listener's sake shot...
The kids of the 31,000 get their way out of the team.
Pastor Don's passing the basket around?
Or you say?
The listeners say he shot plus six today for...
Which isn't out of it, Solid.
Yeah.
Plus six isn't out of it.
We're just talking about it.
You guys are, you guys are acting like Tommy's out of it at plus four.
Well, I just got out of it. It's definitely out of it to win.
So let me rephrase that. And this was a tough one,
but I want to shout out chase Johnson, uh,
who made a par on the very difficult eighth,
made a par on the very difficult 16th,
but still played the other two par threes and six over.
Made a quad and a double. I just, I was looking at par three scoring. That was six over on the
par threes. I was like, man, that must've just been a bunch of doubles. And that was just those
two, which is, which was tough, you know, tough to make sevens on, on the par three, but that felt
pretty, pretty U S openy as well. Not really a train wreck, but TC, I wanted to shout out your guy, Dodo
Molinari, who, a, I didn't realize was in the field and B, uh, he's playing
like his third, his third major, I think in like 10 years, uh, and led the field
in strokes game putting today, which is, which is sick.
Like that is, that is, uh, just veteran.
Just get the curve ball over, just figure out, figure out how to get guys out type of stuff. I just, I, that, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, up the tee and truly was just like yeah let's just just make a bunch of putts.
It's just great. I love stuff like that. Deidre on the putting like stats front a couple alarming
ones. Team Rose last in the field minus four and a half shots on the greens. He'd seen that.
Lowry second to last and then Victor Hovland he 147th, and he's still in the mix.
In putting?
Yeah, he's hitting so good.
And he's, yeah, I was thinking about calling out Blandy, but I wouldn't do that to you. Plus 6,
76. I know, I know this place doesn't, you know, doesn't play to his strengths, but.
He still has a chance to earn an A from Randy. I think Randy said if he makes the cut, he gets an A. It's a pass fail class for Neil. I thought you were going to shout out P.
Well, we haven't gotten there yet. We haven't gotten to DJ is going to ask us what the day
that's exactly Neil. God, you took the words out of my mouth. I got a couple of prompts here. Just,
you know, a couple, a couple of ways to sprinkle the rest of the board here. Favorite moment of the day if you have one, Neil, it sounds like we're going to
I front run you there. Yeah, I just can't get enough. I miss P of all the live guys.
I just agreed. I saw some comments where like we don't know the fuck he is. Not everybody
knows all your inside jokes. He read that's Patrick read the grease ball. I mean, the
shirt he was wearing that just bright camo. He had an albatross
Unbelievable man, and he just him and that the sound guy are like he's like did it go in the guys like I don't know man
You know don't yell at me and not just good stuff from P
I might say dude, that's a good tour sauce move. Would you hold it? I might start doing that when I hit in the water
I think just like
The bluff we've mentioned a good good tweet I might start doing that when I hit in the water, I think just like
Mitchell had a good good tweet. Uh, if you, you know,
your college teammates from the answer, their stuff is, I don't know.
That's a P. Can you imagine Captain America takes, you know,
just the prodigal son returns to take the, the U S open title.
Neil, he did shoot 73, shoot 73 with an albatross. He made triple in his last hole in 18.
Well TC, that was late breaking.
See, I had the train wreck like already set up.
Still favorite moment of the day.
And still favorite moment of the day
is him holding out for an albatross.
Solid, do you have a favorite moment of the day?
God, I'm sitting here talking about how much I love this day.
And I'm like, what was my favorite moment of the day? I'm not sure I have one that like rolls off the tongue.
I mean, no, I gotta think on this a little bit more. I'm kind of with you. I mean, Vic's chip,
like just the... Yeah, Lowry on two was sick too. Lowry throwing the microphone was cool, but the
the, the, have Lowry throwing the microphone was, was cool.
But the, the lot of
cunty behavior shown up in Lowry's file these days.
It's not good TC.
TC was asking if all the Irish need to start apologizing.
I don't know if we're quite there yet.
I don't know if we're quite there yet, but watch this space.
I, the little one foot chip out of thick rough is one that I'm like, yeah, man, I just literally don't know how to do that.
So just to see the, the pros struggle with that was that that made me feel
pretty warm and fuzzy. That was kind of top of my list. TC a lot of directions we could
go but any favorite moment of the day? How many Johnny pops did you have? That might
have been your favorite moment.
I had eight eight Johnny pops today. I legitimately I saw Hovland's shirt today and it made me think of one of the Neapolitan
sorry Zander shirt today.
It's just like actually I almost downloaded Zander's app today but and I was like holy
and then I just went to the store I got a slice of pizza and I bought like six boxes
of Johnny Pops and I ate I had eight I had eight of the Neapolitan ones today
like by 4 p.m. I just couldn't stop eating them. It's crazy.
So you got to watch yourself man.
No a lot and that's gonna be the early 70 calories in each one.
No update on the Xander app for anything that happened today for Xander.
I do appreciate that. I mean the shirt was outrageous.
Xander probably wants to see him put some color in play. I mean the earth tones, he's just rocked the earth
tones in black for pretty much every round this year. I think Xander probably went back to the
hotel. He's editing the video for the app tonight I think. He's working with the coders. I had a,
just remember, this went down today too. So that's what the cock didn't go down. It was like the whole
internet went down. No, I want to shout out our guy our guy
Nutter he said half the internet was down but the cock stayed up. Exactly.
That's shout out to NBC for that. This was a another prompt I put in here just
remember this round on Sunday. Did you guys have any any nominees for this one
Neil? Did you have anything here? Yes I for remember this round Sunday just
confirming. I think Adam Scott,
I thought it was just a proper, proper round of golf early in the day.
His 24th consecutive us open start.
Uh, he made one, two, three, four, no, five bogeys and five birdies shot.
Even par.
I just, I, he's just timeless man.
And I could see him like sticking around.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm not going to be like, oh, we might win, but just I don't think he's scared.
And I think he's he's I just love seeing that.
That's that's proper golf from Adam Scott.
I had I mean, I think the answer is probably Scotty, right?
Like if he ends up coming up two or three short, like it's gonna be because of today, I would imagine.
He cleans it up and plays a lot better than,
a lot tighter than he did today the rest of the way.
But I'm gonna shout out our guy Keegan TC.
I think this round like should have been like an 80.
He hit the ball horribly, he putted horribly.
And I feel like he still gritted out a 73
and is absolutely not out of it, how we got to this top 10 was not letting it get out of hand today
Tc's you have one here. Yeah, I'll just say Russell Henley. I think he had
16 bars a birdie and a bogey this feels like a very Russell Henley setup
Just play smooth
I think he's a very good player. I think he's a very good player. I think he had 16 bars, a birdie and a bogey.
This feels like a very Russell Henley setup.
Just play smart golf, do the right stuff. And he's T11 shot even today.
I'm expecting Sally to shout out Lomto.
I can't believe I'm getting this with the fourth draft pick,
but Colin Morikawa shot even today without putting at all. He was second in strokes, gained approach.
Like he's got his iron play. This course should fit him really, really, really well.
That I would remember that one.
I'm surprised we've made it this far without talking about it because he's the
fourth or fifth favorite on the board right now. Do not, do not count that guy.
I just say like nobody like dog Keegan more than TC,
but now that like it might be a point in the category of like, Sally doesn't want them on the Ryder Cup team. Now
TC's like, fuck yeah, Keegan's my guy. It's the best man. It's just like TC bringing back.
I'll be honest man, I'm not a Keegan guy at all.
The enemy of the enemy. It's politics. It's politics, man. It's just sometimes you got
to-
It's the best. It's the best.
Yeah, it's a Ryder on this bill.
I feel like I just get to sit around and watch it.
It's bigger than all of this.
Will you apologize for all of it if he doesn't even finish in the top 10 in
points? No, no, no. If he's in the top 20,
if he's not in the top 20, not the top 15, I would apologize. Hey,
sorry. It is like if he's in the top 10, like he should be in the conversation.
We're automatically ruling him out is very stupid.
Especially the little boys club.
Like he's not a little boy.
He's been around.
Guys, highlight of the day was, I can't believe we're glossing over this, was Foxy getting
mic'd up and doing the walk and talk and people were just chanting, like all the pages were
just chanting Foxy.
Cries of Foxy as we walked out of this.
Love Foxy.
People love him.
I don't need that.
I think when we're calling for certain things
on the broadcast, it's not that.
But that's another story for another day.
What else we got?
This was, any mea culpa's, anything like kinda,
I should have saw this coming.
So you mentioned
You mentioned Brooks, you know, I I'm not necessarily willing to go there for that one
But do you have anything else in this in this category? I?
Mean I couldn't have been more all-in on Scotty and he's t55 or whatever now
It I don't have a conclusion to reach there
It's not over like he he can shoot 67 easily tomorrow and be right back at even I mean
You shoot 100 tomorrow and still be in this thing, but that was clunky. That was very unbecoming
And just a little little bitchy and I'm not gonna pull a man couple watch for Scotty
I'll say that I think that's fair. Anybody else anything that you're just is on your way and heavy on your conscience. No, I got one
PC I'll let you go. I just wanted to say I mispronounced the the restaurant
Morcia last night and it's been it's been nagging at me all day. I said we're more Chia
Otherwise all of your predictions like to win. Yeah
It's not ready to you know, it's too early.
It's too early.
It's way too early.
But I need credit for Neergar Peterson.
Yeah, that's too early for you guys.
You guys were glazing Bryson.
You were glazing Tommy who shot for you pick Tommy to win the price.
I'll apologize for my Tom Hoag takes Tom Hogan shot 75 today.
Yeah, TC's strong army into putting him in our top 20 parlay.
No, I know.
It didn't make it in.
Didn't.
Okay.
I will say this is just a quick one.
You guys flagged this in the moment, but I kind of tried to weave some
cant lay talk pretty high in the preview, and you guys weren't about that.
You guys were right.
He just evacuated himself once again. pretty high in the preview and you guys weren't about that and you guys were right he just
evacuated himself once again shot 76 today.
I'm going to request some comment on this next one. I'm struggling to marry these two things.
If we're gonna call him a lock we're gonna call him a top 10 player in the world.
Why have we gone an hour 70 minutes into this show and no one's mentioned that Sepp shot 78 today.
He shot 78. He's having a great season. He had a bad day. I mean two time winner this year and pretty big boy
That's why I explained it away. Okay, it's all it's all that says that says everything that says
No, I'll distance myself from this one in a Paul a mealy-mouthed apology on this one
This this should be his kind of setup dude
Like this feels like drive it straight,
hit it to the right parts of the greens, hang around.
I think personally, it's all I think you nailed this
in our preview pod.
He didn't switch away from the zebra putter.
Like, you know, who was that?
Nick Price?
Yeah.
Nick Price had to switch his putter, you know, at Oakmont.
Didn't use the zebra because the greens were too fast.
Sep, you know, he's too proud to switch away.
So I think that cost him, that had to cost him at least five shots today, I think.
I've got a apology on behalf of all of all of us, all trap draw participants that we didn't see
and call out the choke points with the bridges. Yeah, across the highway. I think that's like,
should have seen that coming as lovers of infrastructure, TC, you and I specifically,
you know, it sounds like they're only using one bridge for pedestrians. Choke point,
definition of a choke point.
If this is going to be an anchor site, city of Pittsburgh has many,
many bridges, proud of their bridges. We need more bridges.
They need that one member who is putting the bill on all the bridges, right?
That's the top of the list.
Stan Druckenmiller, Neal's guy. Oh, well, he's the one. Yeah. Yeah. He's paying for all the bridges right that's the top of the list Stan Druckenmiller and you'll exactly all what it did he's the one
Yeah, yeah, he's paying for all the bridges. Yeah
We need to get a couple more get the word out to him
Do I win capital or whatever he runs I was joking about set but he did lose three shots on the greens today
That's kind of funny
144th strokes gain putting as one guy want to shout out real quick Matt McCarty
144th strokes game putting as one guy want to shout out real quick Matt McCarty
He was he was 13 over going into 18 and he birdied 18
What did what did Matt McCarty stay when we were when we were walking around quill hollow house the's the golf course? He goes long as fuck
On that yeah, I was on that third tee at well hollow
That's good stuff. Oh, that was funny
Sali you were shitting all over him today
Who's that? Unserious off the tee. Yeah, I mean will it oh, yeah
Everybody seems to be coming around on that one just featured groups out out the ass. He was actually, I saw TCI sent through a,
the company he was keeping in the Strokes Gained
off the tee, which is kind of supposed to be
the superpower there is like,
like him and Blandy and Brian Campbell and Dodo
were all like hanging out in the mid 150s.
151st in Strokes Gained.
All right, who's out of it?
Let's sign some death certificates here.
They're not coming back.
They have no chance.
Who are you willing to put on that list?
You saying to win or to make the cut?
To win.
Who lost it?
You cannot just receiving or you cannot win it on Thursday, but you can lose it.
Who lost it today?
Rory.
Yeah.
I think that's right. I feel like plus four is where I'm like, that's three
feels doable, four feels, you know. It was like the line. The line. I think JT. That's
a personal T. So you don't have any rebuttals there on that plus four mark? I would put
Thomas out of it as well. Thomas lost it before today though. That's the whole, like that's
where he couldn't have lost it today. I'll put gonna be able to get a lot of people to watch this. I'm not gonna be able to get a lot of
people to watch this. I'm not gonna be able to get a lot of
people to watch this. I'm not gonna be able to get a lot of
people to watch this. I'm not gonna be able to get a lot of
people to watch this. I'm not gonna be able to get a lot of
people to watch this. I'm not gonna be able to get a lot of
people to watch this. I'm not gonna be able to get a lot of
people to watch this. I'm not gonna be able to get a lot of
people to watch this. I'm not gonna be able to get a lot of
people to watch this. I'm not gonna be able to get a lot of
people to watch this. I'm not gonna be able to get a lot of people to watch out. I've got a, uh, I got a question for you guys. Just does Phil make the cut and is potentially his last us open.
He's at, he's at a plus.
I don't think this is Phil's last us open, man.
I think he's going to try to qualify the kill.
He'll try sec.
He'll try to Monday and, or, you know, do these sectionals or final qualifying.
And I think you get an exemption too.
I think he absolutely should get an exemption.
Started off bogey, bogey double double, and then battle back, birdied 14, bogeyed 15, birdied 16, and 17.
Finished 74.
The group of plus four is sick.
Like ZB, probably shortest player in the field outside of one of the amateurs.
He shot 74. He got Tommy Hideki, Fitz, The Piglet, Rory, Lucas Glover,
Cam Davis, Mickelson, Eduardo Molinari, Jackson Buchanan, El Presidente, JT Poston, Matthew Jordan,
Zach Pollo, Polo Pollo. Just fantastic characters there at plus four. I think we got HEE at plus three. I think I don't think plus three is too far back.
I don't.
I don't.
Bryson's a plus three.
Bryson and Scotty at plus three saves that number.
I agree.
There's also some people at plus three that like could miss the cut tomorrow too.
Right.
With like their, I want to shout out some names.
Thumbs up, thumbs down.
Make the cut, miss the cut.
Keegan Bradley.
Makes the cut.
He'll make the cut.
I think he'll make the cut.
I think he'll make the cut.
I think he'll make the cut. I think he'll make the cut. I think he'll make the cut. I think he'll make the cut. I think he'll out some names. Thumbs up, thumbs down. Make the cut, miss the cut. Keegan Bradley.
Makes the cut.
He'll make the cut.
I think he'll make the cut.
That's big of you, Sully.
Bryson DeChambeau.
Yeah, he'll make the cut.
I'm going to say misses the cut.
Bad day tomorrow, you're saying.
Scottie Scheffler.
What do you guys think the cut's going to be?
The T62 is plus four right now, so I'd say plus
Seven maybe yeah, maybe even higher. It's right between six and seven odds wise is it right now
40% Jenza plus six. Yeah, I don't think Bryson's gonna go backwards that much. I think he yeah, I think he makes a cut
Tommy Fleetwood makes it he's trying his hardest student
Rory plus four
It's a hard one it's a hard one really just packing it in man
I'm gonna take I'm gonna take miss. Do we have any commentary?
People have heard enough probably
about the skipping media thing,
but once again, skip media today.
So I thought you had a great point on Slack about,
I get the tailor-made thing, I get the driver thing,
not wanting to talk about that.
Don't really get what the.
You know, had the weather excuse on the Saturday,
wanted to see his daughter on the Friday,
just wanted to get home in his own plane, couldn't have waited seven minutes for him to answer a couple
questions on the Sunday, or his reasons for not doing it.
You play in one USGA event a year, they're offering up millions of dollars.
You've probably made close to $10 million from the USGA from playing this event over
the years.
You can't stand there and answer a couple questions like just chalk like
what happened out there today. You're in such a hurry after a
morning right? You don't have the daughter excuse bedtime
excuse with this one. Like what the fuck are we doing, man?
Like, this is it's so silly to have to goal. It's so Yeah, I
don't want to read this. It's just fucking answer the dumb
already fly sure in the crisis management folks though, you know, they may know better. I mean, this is just I don't want to read businesses just fucking answer the dumb already fly sure in the crisis management folks though
You know, they may know better. I mean, this is just I don't even know what we're rebelling against at this point. It just
Made you had a good point too. I'm just like I was just saying
Yeah, I don't love what the only thing that irks me the wrong way and I don't even I don't want to be high and mighty
From where we're at cuz like we're not on site
We're not out there in the scrums.
And like we kind of take the quotes that other people are getting. And so I'm well,
well, well aware of that, but I don't love the,
the disconnect between like, I'm not going to tell you what driver I'm hitting.
Come out and watch me if you really want to see. And like,
I'm sure there were people that were out there watching them for all 18 holes
today who probably just want to write about the one of the best players in the world, the number two player in the world who's won the Masters and Pebble
and the players and has a good chance to, you know, win a Port Rush probably and like
wants to, you know, gather as much info about his game as they can. I'm sure they were out
there following all day today. And so to not like answer questions for those people is
where I'm kind of like, oh, fuck man, like that. That's a tough one to launch there,
I think. Yeah, it's not that that Giedens down for press conference. That's not where I'm kind of like, oh fuck man, like that's a tough one to punch there, I think.
Yeah, it's not that you didn't sit down for a press
conference, that's not what I'm talking about.
It's just more the like the scrum or the like,
I don't know, it just feels,
it just feels like an easier thing to do
for less of a headache later.
It's just like draining the credit card.
It's like, dude, you're just like pushing it off
because then the questions are gonna get a little bit more annoying. If you just, last year I scoffed at
the Sunday, like Bryson being a crowd favorite at Pinehurst over Rory. I thought that was just like
misplaced energy from the crowd. And a year later, I'm kind of like, well, I mean, Bryson's done
nothing but like further like promote his new brand and style of engaging
with the fans, which is what media interaction is.
And Rory's done nothing but the opposite.
I'm kind of like, you know what?
This feels a lot more deserved now that like Bryson's a fan favorite and it feels like
Rory's losing losing fans on a weekly basis.
And it's just shocking.
Really.
Like I found myself like not like rooting for him today, which is like maybe one of the
first times ever
I felt that way.
That was just the natural way I felt.
No ill will towards him.
I was just kinda like,
I love the way he's approached this
and I'm not excited to watch him this week.
Yeah, I feel myself just kinda losing interest.
It's not really rooting for or against.
I'm just kinda like, all right, cool.
It's a little bit of a cool man sort of.
Like, all right, man. Have fun, I guess.
What if he takes a break?
I thought something else.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think it's interesting, like, moving on here. Looking at the odds sheet a little bit.
This is, of course, subject to change and, of course, courtesy of our friends at the
FanDuel Sportsbook. John Rahm, as mentioned up up top is our current favorite plus 550 Scott
Scheffler at plus 650 I bring that up because Rory is one shot behind him and is plus 4000
that's crazy man fucking crazy right that's that he is number one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 on the odd sheet there, which is, which is pretty wild.
Cody has a pulled up here, but next up after Scotty Brooks, Keppka plus 1200 along with JJ respawn.
Kawa plus 1400 Bryson again tied with Scotty at minus three is plus 1600 and C. Bukam Ben Griffin Sun J. Jordan Spieth Ludwig Xander Russell Henley Victor kind
of your I would be hammering Victor right now ball striking the shit out of it. I don't know Where did he finish at?
us one he is
plus one plus one
3018 I
Don't know if I can trust him he feels like
Two to three years ago speech of like yeah
You got these runs in you and then it's just like it always comes back
Like I just don't know if I can trust him to sustain any kind of level of run two to three years ago speech of like, yeah, you got these runs in you. And then it's just like, it always comes back.
Like I just don't know if I can trust him to sustain any kind of level of run.
I think that's love them in the mix though, man.
I really like anything but inevitable.
Like a us open winner is going to feel inevitable.
And like Victor, you do not know what the fuck is coming next.
You see, how about with a plus one at Mark Leishman?
Yeah.
Leash.
He putted his leash.
Yeah, great. Great to see leash back in the mix. I'm a little
frustrated with Ludwig. Like Ludwig should have had a should
have been a 68 or 69 today. He just did all the hard stuff,
right? And just kind of squandered some shit coming down
the stretch. The entire back nine was just,
or his back nine front line of course was just.
Oh, he'd four the last five, that's tough.
When do we have the Ludwig combo?
What is, define that for me.
Are you talking about just a little bit
of squandering opportunities?
When are we gonna have a combo?
It's a big step back this year.
I know he won the Genesis, but it's been a pretty serious step back.
Like, got the Niscope last year.
He won since then, but has taken a step back since then.
It just looked like he was on a ROM-like trajectory and it's not happening.
I think he's underperforming.
I think that's fair to say.
You know, shipping hasn't been good. He's off the tee, he's been a little
inconsistent. So I think some of it is just, I think he, I think the knee injury
kind of facilitated some bad habits in his swing. He was talking to Swedish TV
about that a couple weeks ago. He seems to be rounding into form, but if he's not, like,
I could see Ludwig turn on the Jets into Port Rush or like almost after major season and
then playing really well in like FedEx Cup playoffs and everybody's shitting on it. Like
kind of one of those things. So, you know, the majors are what matters, right?
So, I would chalk it up as a full year sophomore slump.
I'd be happy to have that conversation heading into Augusta next year.
I I'll give him, give him some rope with the, with the knee stuff and
the age. I think, yeah, it might just be a squandered year.
I think that's what I'm kind of prepared for.
I was already a Ludwig fan. I've run into him not once,
but twice so far this year on American flights. So you
know, he's way out of the problem to my board. Well,
it's actually really bad to hear. He's flying like 38 F on
American. I'm pretty sure too.
Swedish she's thrifty.
You might as well actually say
any wise pound foolish. Yeah,
like, yeah, this is fine back here. I don't care.
I think going back to the odds sheet for just a second, Solly, you're kind of making me really like Colin Moor
Cow at 14 to 1 there with only 10 people ahead of him
in three rounds to go on a golf course that feels a little designed in a lab.
For him, that's intriguing.
I think that might be worth a play for some folks.
And Russ Henley is, gosh, down at plus 3000. That's intriguing. I think that might be worth a worth a play for some folks. This is a really good week.
Russ Henley.
And Russ Henley is, gosh, down at plus 3000.
I think because he's not clearly not scared and already whipped Colin's ass earlier this
year.
I would check out, I posted our video we shot with Russell Henley from back in December
on their YouTube channel this past week. Just like I went back and rewatched it. I'm like,
I already, wow, I'm such an idiot. I've already like forgot about all these tips. This guy handed us
directly, like literally handed to us. Here are the answers to the test.
I've got this deal you man. Cody, I don't know if you, you know, I don't know if you want to put
your money where your mouth is. If you believe in this putting cam young 45 to one right now
as well, just, just calling that out in case're looking at you know, new edition on the house or
something like that. But guys, I think the the like the play for the US Open might be
wait till after day one or day two and then place your wagers. Yeah. Like I think that's, like I made you start doing that. I do where the value lives.
Any updated winner predictions?
So I know we were heavy on Scotty.
Neil, were you on Scotty as well this week?
I was.
I was on Scotty and our one and done as well.
I just want to point that out.
You were on Tommy, that's right.
Anybody want to change their picks?
Do you still believe in Scotty now seven shots back?
I don't know. I don't know the answer to my own question there,
but I mean I I don't. Yeah, I don't really think he's going
to win, but you know it's just like low tide right now.
It's like man, you know everybody thinks like man,
how could the tide get this high and then all of a sudden
here it comes. You know it's it's just water baby. Watch out.
If that I mean, the weather looks like, you know, decent in the morning, not much going
on tranquil, smooth greens. I could see if I'm not changing my pick off Scotty. If you
ask me right now, I think is a better chance of winning here. Rom, I would say Rom, but
I'm not changing off the pick. I would regret that so badly if I, who I think is a better chance of winning here, Rom, I would say Rom, but I'm not changing off the pick.
I would regret that so badly if I did.
I think you're right.
I think he goes out and shoots like, you know, 200, 200 or something the next couple of days or 100, 200 and gets back around even par and he's, you know,
reback going into the final round or something.
I think I'm going to want to have that Scotty stock in my portfolio.
And it was self-inflicted today. Like it wasn't like there was an Oakmont problem with Scotty, in my portfolio. And it was self-inflicted today.
It wasn't like there was an Oakmont problem with Scotty, in my opinion, from what I've
seen.
It didn't look like Pinehurst.
Exactly.
Exactly.
No, I think you're right.
So, Molly, you were riding for Bud Colley, potential Ryder Cup.
I just want to shout out, he just seems to be a very serious golfer at the moment. Like it's just enough different styles of, uh, not different golf courses.
Uh, pretty darn decent, sustained success that like when he popped up today, I
was kind of like, I picture you sticking around through the weekend, honestly,
which I wouldn't have said two months ago.
Uh, so I wanted to shout out and he just played some, some very, very real golf.
And like, I would, I would, I would put him as a serious contender for the Ryder Cup, which I would not have thought
of maybe even a month ago.
Would you rather have him or Keegan?
Keegan's the captain of the team, so that's not really a call you need to make.
It's physically impossible.
You can't fight City Hall.
He's going to get the Jersey Mike sub order.
The captain.
I don't know who can do that. Yeah. College. You want it Mike's way. I thought, I thought you said Mike's way.
You know, outline the chalkboard for the ping pong in the team room.
Still no. Speaking of the boys club. So good to play the Reddit commenter role for the rider cup. It's so much easier.
Like I, I, I need to just follow that, that, that, that, that, that, that,
that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,
that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, in a role for the Ryder Cup is so much easier. Like I need to just follow that. That pal.
You should stick your neck out
and put Rasmus in your seat or something.
Just say shit.
Are you still picking Tommy?
Is he still your pick to win?
I am, he's still my pick to win.
I think I had Victor in there at one point.
The Miracle at Oakmont.
Yeah, yeah.
The occasion at Oakmont.
Sorry, you were saying?
Sam Burns.
I think Sam Burns should be right in the mix.
And he just evacuated himself coming in.
Weird to watch.
He played his last four holes and five over par.
He made five birdies in his first 14 holes today.
Still you know, still T33 plus two, but that was a weird one.
Neil, let's expect more from Corey Connors as well today.
I was too. I thought this was a good fit for him.
Two over. I mean, I don't think we had him to win, you know.
I had him for a top 10, T-T, or top 20.
Which on that note, I want to shout out my Denny McCarthy top 20.
I hope that doesn't bankrupt the fine people at FanDuel.
I mean, that was just thousands of people tailing that one, I'm sure.
He's one shot inside the top 20 after 25% of golf. Oh, I know.
But he's gonna be a real player. He's gonna stick around.
Captain of the little boys club.
Then I think solid. If Jackson Coivins
whip the little boys club in for sure. Why not? That was good. I
stayed by little boys club. I'm in the LBC. If Jackson
Corbin plays well tomorrow and keeps rising, I think we got to put him on the team too.
He'd be a great fit on the little boys club. Have we fit? God, why am I having such a track
of the names you guys are throwing out to be on the team. Yeah, exactly.
No, a top 10 player in the world who's not in any of the majors.
Why am I like having the biggest brain fart ever?
Taylor Gouge?
No, come on.
Don't be glib.
American, what are you saying?
Yeah, remember we did the top 10 without a major right now.
Oh, Luke Clanton.
Luke Clanton.
God, I know that was so outrageous. Oh my
God. It's not. He's a stud
that I'm very proud of. I'm
very proud of my stance on that
record. No, I'm flagging that
because when he does win a
major, people will be like, oh
man, they had that all the way
back in in 25. That was crazy.
He's going to be so black as
I'm not getting enough credit
for putting Luke Clanton on
the exactly not won a major in 2025 2025 this will be 2030. All right
anything else we got anybody else got anything in the notebook
we got to get out. I was gonna ask you guys like if you could
only answer it through the lens of you can only watch one
round tomorrow from one guy. What are you most excited to
watch tomorrow? What are you most keen to you to find out
tomorrow? I mean, it's watching.
Rom. It's good answer. I got, I mean, Jordan, I'm curious, you know, just I'm curious because
it could go really, really, really bad tomorrow. Tomorrow does feel like a, uh, watch the featured
groups type of day. I think you guys are totally right about that. I think there's probably going
to be some good ones to watch. I'll be Brooks. Yeah, there's some good options.
Or all those. It's kind of a can't can't lose with any of those those big guns. Jordan guy,
you might be right, Neil. Jordan might be the answer. Is it gonna is it gonna be for
real or or not? Who's gonna blow up on the launch pad? We'll see. It's gonna be a great
week. I think this was a great, great start to the tournament.
In honor of Big Randy, I want to shout out Jose Luis Ballester from making 211 feet of
putts.
The next closest I believe was 122 feet because in a span of three holes, he made a 65 footer
and an 85 footer, which is good stuff.
So for the stat heads, the big Randy heads out there. I know you guys love feet of putt made.
And we reached out to Randy for comment
on the setup and everything today.
We did not hear back.
And he will not be with us tomorrow as well.
It is just a scheduling conflict more than,
he's not protesting.
To our knowledge, he is not protesting
the fact that 10 people broke par
with no wind in the opening round.
That's right. All right, guys, anything else? Otherwise, Neil, what's up with these mystery boxes we got going on?
Yeah, cleaning out the office. So I got some knickknacks, some good stuff that I'm going to ship to two lucky winners.
One new subscriber to the NLU newsletter and one current subscriber.
Dej, that's what we got cooking.
Where's the link?
Sorry, I gotta find it in the notes.
Subscribe.nolayingup.com forward slash giveaway.
Sign up there basically anytime until Sunday
and you might be a lucky winner.
And if you're already subscribed,
you might be a lucky winner too.
So I got a lot of good stuff in there.
I already kind of selected the boxes.
I need to just break them into two.
It's going to be good stuff.
Hey, by the way, guys, we've got a new, we got white smoke.
We've got a new PGA Tour CEO.
First ever PGA Tour CEO, Brian Rolap from the NFL.
He was at one point considered the heir apparent to,
to Raj by all accounts, really smart dude.
And I imagine they're probably gonna wait till next week
to make the announcement.
They don't wanna step on the USGA,
but it seems to be everywhere.
You know, I think-
I think-
Had him as the new PGA commissioner, which was not accurate, but. Yeah. Yeah. It seemed like this one has been in percolating for a few weeks now.
And finally the finish line.
Any early reaction to that news or should we save that for another, another day?
I think it's truly a wait and see like, cool.
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Like, cool. Like, you know, finally, we've got the
shifters on his two phones, right?
You know, I think it's the other guy.
I think he was I think he got his hand slapped a little bit with the college
football conference realignment playoff stuff.
He was trying to create, you know, kind of a super league at one point with some other guys. But yeah, as far as I know, you know, pretty well regarded. It just feels like finally a step in the direction of the future for the PGA Tour instead of like, oh, like, we'll let you know when we have any news and until you hear otherwise, Jay Monahan is the one in charge or at least pretending to be the one in charge. I'm still struggling just to understand like what's the
difference between the CEO and the commissioner and who does what. I think the commissioner is going to be
like a Jason Gore like Brandt like I've heard Brandt Snedeker floated for that one of like truly
like player relations and fielding the actual tournaments. And then the CEO will be everything sponsor commercial related.
That's cause about business.
The CEO view it. It's like, yeah, like five Oh one C, uh,
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that's commissioner level versus like CEO is going to be enterprise level from
what I understand. but we'll see
More to come on that. I'm sure
Congrats, Jeff
That's right. I'm sure that's a friendly in the in inside the tower
Guys good good first day. I'm looking forward to I think we're only going up from here as well
Which I think is the most exciting thing about this tournament
I cannot wait to see how Oakmont changes over the next couple days, how the leaderboard
takes shape, and we will be right here after each round concludes, maybe before each round
concludes, depending on the peacock situation.
Might need to wait for cut watch tomorrow is the only thing.
That's true.
Well, guys, good being with you.
Cody, thank you for running the ones and two.
Shout out to Matt on all the social stuff.
And shout out to everybody for watching.
And we will be back tomorrow night for round two. Cheers.
Crack on.