No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1029: KPMG Women's PGA Check-In

Episode Date: June 22, 2025

Three rounds down at the 2025 KPMG Women's PGA Championship at Omni PGA Frisco, we find Minjee Lee out front with only Jeeno Thitkul joining her under par. We break down all of the action: run down th...e leaderboard, cover news and notes, check in on odds, HKBITFB, and get you ready for the final round at Fields Ranch East. Support our sponsors: Titleist - #1 Ball in Golf FanDuel - Official Sportsbook of NLU Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Be the right club. Be the right club today. Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most expect anything different welcome ladies and gentlemen to the no laying up golf podcast. My name is Randy. This is our Saturday evening KPMG women's PGA show To help me break down not only today's action But the first two days as well and to set everything up heading into the final round Sunday
Starting point is 00:00:59 I'm joined by three of my associates. Let's go around the horn Tr Tron Carter, TC. What's going on tonight? What's up, big? Big day of golf. Big few days of golf. And I think Fields Ranch has been provocative, to say the least. So we can get into that. We got players whinging. It's been fun. It has been. Yeah. A lot to unpack. We'll get into that. Cody McBride's been on site. He's running the board for us. Cody, what's going on, my man? I'm here. Listen, it's been hot.
Starting point is 00:01:32 It's been windy. I had to dip out to the pool today big, but I'm excited to be back home ready. Fired up to talk about it and get everything set up for tomorrow. Awesome. And last but certainly not least, Miss Jordan Perez. JP, what's going on? How are you? I'm wonderful, guys.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Honestly, watching all the golf these past three days, it's made me feel very dehydrated, very dry. I feel like I'm there, Cody. Parched. Yeah. Parched. Parched, if you will. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Needing a lot of water these days. But other than that, great. Well good. Stay hydrated for the show. Uh, Cody, let's thank our sponsor Titleist. What do we have to say about Titleist this week? Yeah, of course. Big our friends at Titleist this week at the KPMG women's PGA championship.
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Starting point is 00:03:38 That's it guys. I don't want to hear anything about ads. It's literally Titleist. We're going to talk a little bit about NLU on the backend. Let's talk fields ranch. Let's do it. Let me, and this might come up, but let me pose the question to you guys. Let's start here. JP, what has you most excited for tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:04:00 If you want to take this as what's been the biggest story through 54 holes, you may certainly go in that direction, but what's got you amped up for tomorrow? I will defer to my colleagues who have more passionate takes about course and setup than I do, but I think the most, I mean, the thing that has me excited the most is Minji. And I know it feels a little bit basic, but I remember a conversation we had about the US Women's Open a few years ago when we were doing our deep dive.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And I guess I felt boldly at the time stated how much I loved Minji's US Women's Open. And you guys were not very pumped about it. You guys thought it was pretty sleepy for her. And that's her most legitimate major to date. And if she wins tomorrow, I you got to put that to rest. Okay, like that this is some BD stuff from Minji. And I'm really excited for her. This I mean, this is just incredible. Tron, you weren't involved. You were you weren't involved. You weren't involved. You you are the
Starting point is 00:05:03 biggest Minji champ around. So I'm not you were not you were not Involved I know but he does agree. He does agree with how pine needles played for the US women's And it's fair but Minji is legit AF and tomorrow could prove that Yeah, today was crazy impressive. Yeah, we'll get into that Cody. What's got you most excited? well, I Was I have this big monologue plan to talk about Gino and the time has come and we find What? 76 so I'm gonna pivot here and
Starting point is 00:05:38 Go down a route. I don't want to make an enemy of TC this early, but guys Lexi Thompson continues to like, wow. Wow. That's what you're most excited about. Wow. She shot 75 today. I say this because I hope that she finishes like T21 because I think it's been so hot and windy and you see it and I know I think today hopefully was just a bound round for Gino. Lexi gets so much run a lot of it's deserved but again I'm at to the point where it's like them catching hey I didn't never said retire I'm not doing this either win or or just move stage right please and I think that's where I'm kind of bad with the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:06:25 There's no chance that's gonna happen even if yeah even if she doesn't win. I for sure credit to her she hung in there after that first hole we'll get there. T.C. first hole. Yeah T.C. with so many directions we could go here what's got you most excited? Truly I mean I love watching Minji play golf. She was nails today. She was flawless. I want to see him keep the pedal down with the setup. We can get to the setup. I want to see if Gino's got that dog in her. Excited about that. It's supposed to be windy again tomorrow. I think a little bit less than the last couple of days, but hopefully that continues because I love that. And then guys, I've got to address the elephant in the room.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Tommy Ladd, I'm excited about that too. It's a three shot lead and flawless golf today. He shot 63, hit 14 of 14 fairways, I think 15 greens. Just played brilliant and looks the part. So I think like in our in our pre week stuff, I had both Minji and and Keegan in the one and done stuff. And then I had I had Tommy winner without Scotty in my plays this week. So, you know, it's just I don't know, I'm trying to trying to contain
Starting point is 00:07:44 myself like I'm probably not gonna sleep'm, I could not be more excited. Let's ask you the other elephant in the room. Will you be jumping on a flight and heading to Hartford, Connecticut tomorrow? Listen, I don't want to, it's not my place right now to say anything out of respect for, for Tommy and travelers and KPMG and Fields Ranch and Gilhance and Minji. I'm not going to answer that question. No comment, Randy. Okay. All right. Fair enough. I echo what all you guys are saying. I don't have anything new or unique. I just want to see another tough major championship day. And I can't wait to see how Minji handles it
Starting point is 00:08:25 with a four shot lead. We saw her, she had a rough final round at the 2024 US Women's Open. This is kind of her first big test since then. I think you hit the nail on the head with, we're gonna see if Gino's got that dog in her. Obviously not the day that she wanted. We'll see how she bounces back.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Let's quickly, we'll get into some birdies and bogeys here. Just to run down the leaderboard, I probably should have done this right off the top, but first place, six under par, Minji Lee. She shot a bogey free 69 today. Just incredible out of that final group. In second place, Gino Titikun. She shot a 76, not so great.
Starting point is 00:09:05 She started the day with, what did she shoot? She started the day with a three shot lead and then now trails by four. But she's got to look, solo second. There are a triumvirate of women at plus one, tied for third, that includes Lexi Thompson, Miyu Yamashita from Japan is in that group, and Korea's Heejin Choi. At tied for sixth, we get to Nellie Korda, she finished plus two overall.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Leona McGuire showing signs of life on a difficult setup like that. Yalime Ngo had an interesting day today, she's at plus two, Chisato EY is at plus two. And then tied for 10th, a group of women, Grace Kim, want to shout out round of the day. She shot a 68 early, moved up I think 58 spots to get inside the top 10 now and running in, just a solid day, sloppy double on 17, but then hold a bunker shot on 18.
Starting point is 00:10:04 She's tied for 10 so there is your leaderboard heading into Sunday I think we start here with Minji though I you know you can throw any adjective you want at it and and we have already but it was just proper proper proper bogey free 69 I mean, Birdie the ninth, the par five ninth, the par five fourteenth, the short par fourfifteenth, made some clutch par putts, I believe was the only woman this week that has had a bogey free round and to do it out of the final group on Saturday is is crazy impressive. Guys, I don't know. I don't know what you know. I it's like give her all the flowers. It
Starting point is 00:10:41 just was a hell of a day. But she's got to she's got to have a good game.. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to
Starting point is 00:11:00 be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure The easiest thing about Minji's round was today. What's that? She lost strokes approaching the green. Did she really? Yeah. Yeah. She was almost two shots off the tee, minus 0.5 approaching the green, great around the green and like fourth and putting.
Starting point is 00:11:17 She was awesome putting. So overall tee to green, she was, she was among the leaders, but just, just kind of goes to show you. Like I think it's it's feels very sustainable. She was just nails all day and yeah, you know, made a lot of parts but also missed a couple too. So yeah, and it's like, you know, called her the kind of beginning week of like people that can control their ball and they're, they're comfortable with it on the ground are going to do well well here, and I think that's playing out for sure. Yeah, Jordan, you referenced her victory a few years back at Pine Needles on a setup that was much softer.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I think what the women might like this week to more resemble that Pine Needle setup. How much confidence do you have in Minji tomorrow? I mean, clearly the woman to beat, but are we nervous at all? Maybe nervous to the fact that she is sleeping on a lead, but I mean, it's a pretty nice cushion. And I guess, yeah, like pine needles on that day in particular was cakewalking
Starting point is 00:12:19 in comparison to this week. But I don't know. I mean, just to see the way that she's weathered these kinds of conditions has been really impressive and you know, a final round is a different arena. So I think her mental game will be put to the test measurably. So I don't know. I, I have a little bit of nerves. I really want to see what Gino is made of though, you know, and I think tomorrow we'll say a lot about Gino Titico and, you know, what she can do. I was, I just found today to be, you know, I had it in my notes today,
Starting point is 00:12:53 guys. I was like, Gino is that girl. She's the best player in the world. Like what? Wow. Like she's going to do this. And then we get to the back nine, I'm like, Oh, no, no, no, she's not going to do this. And, you know, if, if, if this is the end of the road for Gino this week, then yeah, I have all the confidence in the world for Minji. It'll be a cakewalk again for her tomorrow. But if the conditions are the same also, who's to say someone else won't ride up. And I guess we'll talk about that when how far back is too far back but I don't know. I'm going into word salad and scrambled eggs here but yeah, a lot going on. Jordan, I think to your point about tomorrow, I think it's gonna be really interesting where number one played as the hardest hole today, 5 six scoring average There were only two holes that played below par today nine and fifteen
Starting point is 00:13:49 but number one Par five number two shorter shorter par four that played as the fourth hardest hole four point four three six and then number three is a is You know relatively gettable par five and I think that we could see a lot of Movement in those first three holes tomorrow and then you know, and then and then four is a par three So I think that like that that could be a really volatile opening stretch tomorrow if if if something is going to happen It could be volatile, but I also think she has such an edge right now with her putting and with that opening stretch, she's really capitalized.
Starting point is 00:14:27 It could be a seven or 10, you know, it should be, it could be an eight shot. It could be a runaway. I know that that is in the realm of possibility. I'm just looking quickly at Minji's post-round presser transcript. They, you know, they've one of the questions you've obviously been on both sides. You have two major wins. You've had, you know, leads that have gotten away, kind of where does it stand?
Starting point is 00:14:51 And Minji was quoted as saying, I mean, quote, I mean, major Sunday is like no other. So regardless of where you are, I don't think you're really ever in a comfortable position until you're holding that trophy. Yeah, to your point, I think if she can get off and just put some pars on the board, God, that's going to help her. Cody, what are you feeling about Minji heading into tomorrow? Yeah, I think we talked about it. I think that what happened at Lancaster,
Starting point is 00:15:17 specifically on that back nine, she went out, birdied her first hole in the final round there, and it felt like, here we go you know this is this is the third one for her and you know it was great for her to pick up the US Women's Open of pine needles to match her or Evian the original one and then you know it felt like something that got away and she really struggled the rest of the year and came out of it way better player. And I think it has to do with the long putter and she's definitely, you know, writing the putter now, but she's ball striking her absolute face off. She's, she's hitting fairways where she needs to. She's finding the proper angles and giving herself really
Starting point is 00:16:00 good looks into these greens. But I would say, you know, right now the gap is four from 600 to where Gino's at is two. I would honestly say that Gino needs to pick up two tomorrow on Minji because I think there's a ton of stress and pressure specifically from Minji. I mean, the telecast talked about it, how she was absolutely like crucified by the Australian media after the US Women's Open last year, like calledcast talked about it, how she was absolutely like crucified by the Australian media after the US Women's Open last year, like called her a choker, the one that got away, you know, everything. It wasn't good. And there's still, you know, I want her to overcome that.
Starting point is 00:16:37 But I know that there will be a part of that in there. And in the way that the first, you know, really the front, front nine, if she makes it through and still has more than two strokes, two strokes ahead of Gino, she's doing very, very well for herself. Yeah. Uh, we had talked about on the preview episode or the happy hour, I forget which one specifically, but Minji had, had made it a real point to say, I thought I've played pretty well in the majors this year, 2025, until at some point in the weekend, and it's kind of gone sideways. So I'll note, you know, we saw her at Aaron Hills, she shot a 77 in round four,
Starting point is 00:17:18 ended up finishing tied for 22nd. And then at the Chevron too, she shot a a final round 74 ended up finishing tied for 14th. So it is you know there are a few unknowns in there for tomorrow especially in a major on a Sunday. I think it's going to be really interesting and I'll say too, I think a third major victory for her would be a really, I mean, any major win, obviously, is fantastic. But it puts her in a spot, you know, amongst what I think of as kind of her generation, it'd be like her and Lydia. Inji Chun is still active,. She has three majors and an orquist I consider a little bit older, maybe just the generation a little bit ahead of Minji. But it would break a tie as far as major victories, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:14 Lilia Vu has two, Nellie Korda has two, Brooke Henderson has two, Yuka Sasso has two, you know, there are many women, a lot of contemporaries of Minji that have two majors and so a third would kind of put her into more elevated, elevated ground. Two and a half. Two and a half. Thank you, TC. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:18:34 So yeah, that's gonna be fascinating. Gina, as you guys have said, she's still chasing that first major. She's played unbelievably well week to week and just hasn't found the form in the major championships She's been chasing that first major. She's played unbelievably well week to week and just hasn't found the form in the major championships thus far. But God, she looked
Starting point is 00:18:54 so good. She putted what you have 199 feet and five inches worth of made putts on Thursday. Uh she followed that up with with a solid round two and then today didn't have a great putter, wasn't striking the ball well, you know, missed a number of fairways. It seemed to me kind of death by a thousand paper cuts. I don't know if you guys saw anything differently but you know just a lot of bogeys, not many birdies. She missed kind of a shorty eagle on 15 after her best shot of the day.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Yeah, I just, I don't know. I think she's in a tough spot where she's gonna try to be hunting some birdies early. That front nine is difficult. I almost am like, she's at the mercy of Minji a little bit tomorrow. I think the shot on the drive on 15 papered over a lot of mediocre stuff today.
Starting point is 00:19:45 And it seems like the kind of course where if you're fighting a little bit off the tee, you just automatically behind the eight ball, because that's kind of the thing. It's like a second shot golf course. You got to get off the tee to set that up. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, she did fight like she didn't have she didn't have any doubles today.. I think it was one of those things where nothing was going her way. She was stuck in neutral, but I was just disappointed with
Starting point is 00:20:11 like 11, 12, 14. She had three bogeys in that stretch and it just didn't seem like... She was only one over through 10. It's like, all right, there's time to stick your nose back in this thing. She just went the wrong way, starting on that back nine, which those are really good holes, 10, 11, 12, you know, 13. That's a great stretch. And, you know, it was just that's where she kind of got left in the dust. But again, I think like, I don't know if she plays like, she's capable of like, she could make this, you know know I think it's already a two horse race but she could make it a you know an actual race instead of just a run away. Yeah it's weird if you look at her scorecard today obviously she didn't drive it well at all
Starting point is 00:20:57 huge difference between round one and two and her driving accuracy but really it's her ball striking TC and she had like the, you know, just tired swings. It looks like me on like day three of any one of our golf trip. And I'm just like, Oh my goodness. Like I just want to go home and I've got, you know, I've been hammered the last three nights. I'm getting zero sleep. And like, are we done yet?
Starting point is 00:21:21 That's what her swing may just go get a tasting menu. Exactly. We're up till midnight. Oh, but anyway, That's what her sweet made us go get a tasting menu. Exactly. We're up till midnight doing it. Oh, but anyway, that's what it started to look like. And it kind of really came through in Iraq, her irons first and then leaked over to her driver and she had some like epic blocks. What you know, for people who haven't played fields ran she pays the play has been obviously a big thing. So let's play threesomes tomorrow. We'll get to that. We'll get there. But what I'll say is that is that the way that you plot the
Starting point is 00:21:53 course and the way that the wind's been coming is that there's like, you know, there's little groupings, like little three to four hole blocks. And you see specifically when she got a straight like crosswind off of her right going straight right to left which is weird because she usually hits you know a pretty predominant fade or or even a cut you would think she would feel more comfortable being able to hit something that would hold it up she was just like shipping them dead right and it was like completely threw her off and that's where you get 10 11 12 when she turned into 13 You know, that's basically like directly almost back into it. Maybe a little bit into her off the right and then 14
Starting point is 00:22:35 Surprised me as well because that's like back into it but coming from her left, you know, and we saw her again miss it, right So it was interesting. It put some lipstick 15 definitely did but just wasn't as clean and rock solid as she'd been in round one and two. And it's crazy because she seemed unbeatable. She was in complete control. And it's one of those things where it's like, I don't really know what Geno's gonna show up tomorrow.. Is she going to be the one that has like red ass and is
Starting point is 00:23:07 ready to go back out and get it? Or is it finally going to be five days for them out playing six, seven hour rounds plus practice and recovery on both ends? Like, did she run out of gas? That's a great point. I'm glad you brought it up. I didn't want to make excuses for it, but yeah, it's, it's, you know, the, the pace, the waiting around, it's, I feel like it's gotta be easy to just to kind of lose focus and you kind of make one bad swing and, and you're walking off with a bogey, uh, you know, as, as you said, we saw our block one dead right.
Starting point is 00:23:47 What was that off 11, I think. We kind of saw our miss a short putt on, was that the hold before 10? You know, maybe those things, two things are correlated. I don't know. Honestly, she did everything that I did in the video that's online. If it feels fancy, it was not good.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I was like, I've been there, man. Like I know exactly what that feels. Oh, that putt. Yeah. Like I, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, JP, are you, do you think anybody has a chance outside of these, this, the, the
Starting point is 00:24:18 two women under par, Minji and Gino? I don't know. I liked what I saw from you toward the end of her round. There was some VD action there. I, Lexi, do we want to get into the Lexi discussion yet? Take us to the Lexi discussion, please. I don't know. My takes are all over the place because on one hand it's like that triple was just, gosh, she could totally eject herself tomorrow. I think that would be at a circumstance in which she would.
Starting point is 00:24:53 I don't think she would quite recover the same as she did today. And that was impressive. To her credit though, yeah, being four over through two and then getting in the house one under the rest of the way. I thought she battled her ass off. Props to her and she probably signed a bunch of autographs along the way. She made so many part putts that I was like, I was flabbergasted she was rolling in some of those part putts.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Okay. And the one thing, so I don't want to assume that everybody understands what happened on one. Big, do you want to describe how she played her first hole? I was still a roost major Jordan. Did you watch it live? I did not watch it live. I missed that one live All right. Well, I will describe it then as best I can I did go back and watch it. Shout out the The KPMG shot cast or whatever they're calling it this week I mean she just
Starting point is 00:25:45 straight up cold topped her second shot and then I believe shanked her third into a penalty area. So then had to come back and drop from that spot. So all of a sudden she's you know, shank three drop four. She's she's hitting five
Starting point is 00:26:04 into the first hole. The the she's hitting five into the first hole of the par five. Uh goes to the back of the green and then can't can't get up and down. Uh and so walks off with a snowman. I'm I'm like you guys. I like I'm shocked she didn't shoot seventy-nine or
Starting point is 00:26:17 higher today. Uh she she locks back in. She does bogey too I guess and then after that, you know, bogey's eight, but then birdie's nine birdie's 15. Otherwise, it's it's a clean scorecard. It's a 75. She's tied for third. She's not retired. Don't say she's retired. I also have no confidence at all. You know, if Minji spits the bit and this truly becomes a wide open race tomorrow, let me be the first to say I have no confidence at all that those par putts are going to fall
Starting point is 00:26:50 tomorrow for Lexi. I don't think she's actually a threat to win this tournament. And I don't know if that's if that's out of bounds or not. But Randy, I was worried for a sec that she was going to going to somehow get into the final group. Oh yeah. Yeah. But yeah, uh, Hygenchoise is in the final group and then it's, it's uh, Lexi, Nellie, and Mamacita. Was Lexi on the clock today? Probably. Was anybody on the clock? Yeah. Was everybody on the clock yeah yeah was everybody on the clock right it's possible don't understand how three hours and 15 minutes for nine holes and they're not stroking anybody like it I don't know what's gonna happen tomorrow too they're doing you know threesomes off of two T's and you've got a group
Starting point is 00:27:42 going off at 1155 off of hole 10 and you've got the group going off at 1155 off of hole 10. And you've got the leaders going off at 1150 off of one. They might have to wait in a few groups ahead of that. You've got Carlota who shots 82 today going off at 1133 off of hole 10. They might have to wait for an hour at the turn. Yeah. Cause I think the wind's going to be just as bad. All right. I don't want to. Okay. Yeah. Lexi, Cody, I mean, can she back it up tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:28:16 Does anybody think she's actually like, I think she is. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I truly think that she is. Now, when it comes down to these short putts. Yeah, the short putts, that will be an element here. But all Lexi does is spend time outside hitting balls, playing every single day on Bermuda. And we talked about how she, in the preview, how she played last week. Like like she's playing really damn good. And I think this course like this has enough like volatility in it that she can, you know, you've seen her, she's putting
Starting point is 00:28:55 from everywhere and, and she's laying her ass off. And yeah, I do see it. I don't know, you know, physically why she has it. And I was just going to say like, she has Nellie right, you know, one behind her, but I don't wins tomorrow. Nellie, Nellie or Alexa. I got like just straight matchup. I'm giving Nellie a one shot. Uh, obviously friends at Fandl to put that up tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I, it's gotta be Nellie, right? I dare our friends at Fandl to put that up tomorrow. It's got to be Nelly, right? You know what the one thing that I'd say about Nelly is everybody this week has took a turn to negative down talking about the course and setup and everything. Nelly's just been rock solid and it's been, yep, this is the course, it's a major championship, it's hard, it's hot in Texas, it's the end of June. And people who listen to this show, I think as soon as we started this, this calendar year, and we talked about the majors, we've like,
Starting point is 00:29:51 listen, this is going to be unbearable to have it in, you know, the end of June in Frisco, Texas. And that's exactly what's, what's happening here. And, you know, Nellie's took in the high road and I definitely applaud her for that. I just don't know if she has like, she just doesn't look as sharp as she has been. And that's like setting aside not having any wins or anything this year. Like she's had a really good year though. It's just, she doesn't look like that she has it like all together this week. She sounded worn out in her presser afterwards, or I don't know if it was a presser or a standup, but you know, she got two questions just about, you know, kind of describing how hard it is. She said, trust me, it's so brutal out there. Greens are so firm, it's blowing 30 to
Starting point is 00:30:41 35. It's messing with your putts. It's just, you're just happy to get 18 under your belt on a day like this. It's just brutal. You're exhausted after these days because it's such a premium hit the fairways, but you're starting so far right. It's almost like you're playing in a British Open. You can't run it up to these greens because if you hit short, some of these greens, it just sucks straight back. Yeah. Jordan, you were going to say something, please. No, I was just going to say, yeah, related to how she's been talking to the media and how open she's been and, you know, candid. I watched that particular interview live and I just think of, you know, late and maybe this is just like overall, like Nellie's just had an incredible attitude through everything
Starting point is 00:31:21 and she takes interviews, she doesn't run away from the press, none of that, and I really commend her in all these phases and because I mean the expectation every single week is it's Nellie, it's Nellie, it's Nellie and no matter the day she she's open and willing to talk about it and like she had a good day today that's I mean you know that's not saying that it probably would have been any difficult for her but Everybody this week more or less, you know I guess anybody that's had a moment to talk about set up course anything has complained they've laid it all out They've complained there's not been Not no, you know joyful attitudes and I'm not saying Nellie was particularly joyful
Starting point is 00:31:59 But she was playful in a sense like, you know, she's like, yeah That's just just how it is and I just want to commend Nellie on that because I think she's had a fantastic attitude. I think too, you know, we talked about after Erin Hills, like she's shown up now in like difficult conditions, windy, firm, you know, we can put to bed that, you know, she's a dome golfer, she only contends when when she goes low. Yeah Cody to your point you know she putted really well today. Her putter through the first couple
Starting point is 00:32:32 rounds was still just very uninspired. I think that you know like it's no secret if she's not making putts like she hits she does hit the ball really well. She you know, she's long. I don't know. Hopefully, she's found something and tomorrow can be another great day with the putter. Tryon to your point, she had another quote, she just the tail end of it too. She was like, what did she say? She was like, I thought Aaron Hills was a mental test, but geez, this one is a real mental test. I mean, we have a true kind of holistic examination this week. I mean, these women are getting it from physical, mental, patience, just everything and JP, I think it's a great point. As you say, Nellie has seemingly outward, is putting on a great attitude and that's really nice to see.
Starting point is 00:33:32 I got some on that big real quick. Yeah, please. And I know that there's a lot that we'll talk about having Fields Ranch hosting major championships and big events and stuff like that. But we talk about, you know, the temperature and the wind and how hot it is out there. And yeah, I think today, at one point in time, I looked down on my phone and the real feel was 105.
Starting point is 00:33:55 And I was sitting by a pool, kind of chuckling to myself. I'm not out there playing, as very much talked about six plus hours of golf and you add in humidity and everything else. But also, you know, there's a lot of time that takes leading up to their rounds of warming up and everything else like that. They don't have, you know, unlike a men's event and really most majors, there's no gym on site for them. So when they start their actual warmup routine, they're starting it like a couple miles down the road at Lifetime Fitness or whatever the hell it is. And then they have to travel over and like the physios and stretching areas at a separate
Starting point is 00:34:39 spot on property. And then they can finally get to the locker room where they can get dressed and get prepared and then they got a hike over to the range and like it's not it's weird for a campus that was built for this specific thing that there's not shit like this amenities that you need for a major championship naturally built in and I think that's adding to a lot of quotes that we'll get to in a little bit that are making these days that are already long on the golf course extremely long and painful for the competitors. I'm going to plead ignorance. Like how does the pace get that? Like I get playing difficult. so everybody's just hitting a few more shots I still don't understand how in twosomes we're we're we're playing at the pace we are like I
Starting point is 00:35:33 well too everybody's like within the rules I I don't understand it guys well it's so many people backing up shots but it's also twosome nine minute intervals. And I think that's where they, that's where they messed it up big time is because literally it takes only takes one group at the very start to just create this nasty domino effect. And that's exactly what happened today. Now they're trying to get 156 around the first two days, but today there's no, there's nothing you can do, but today like 100% is avoidable. When I looked at the television time and I was like, Oh, it's supposed to TV ends at 6 Eastern, 5 Central. I'm like, that is not going to happen at all. And you saw they blew past it by over an
Starting point is 00:36:18 hour. Weren't even close. And then they just keep throwing money at the purse, which is great. But I mean, the coverage has not been good. The feature group coverage that they did on Thursday and Friday was really good with Judy and Grant. It was better than the main telecast. I was missing it today. Yeah. And then I think, I don't know, just they're, they're throwing them back in threesomes tomorrow, like affecting the competition for the major championship on Sunday and teeing them off at, at, you know, what before noon, just for just to fit it in this bullshit TV window that's shorter tomorrow than it was today. It's insulting. It's it's bullshit. It is. Okay. I I want to get into Fields Ranch. I want to get into Hamster Damn because I I don't disagree. Is
Starting point is 00:37:12 there anything anything else to call out from the leaderboard and any other players you want to kind of highlight from the top ten or or should we just dive into it? You leave me know how know how to say this. Leona signs of life. We honestly thought she was dead for going on two years now. Yeah. The last real time that we've seen here was at the KPMG at ball to stroll two years ago.
Starting point is 00:37:36 She kind of flashed a little bit of match play I think last year. Great to see her there. You'll leave me know started out so hot, you know, round 170 and then she's had back-to-back 74s. But really impressed. Yalimi should be, she should be like right in the mix. She should be minus three or minus four, like chasing Minji. I mean, she's putt, she's, she's driven it like a demon. The approach has been great. The putting has just been like a whore. She lost honestly, not as bad. Statistically, she lost 0.9 to the field putting today. I can't remember. I don't know if it was Paige or if it was Karen talked about like her stance with that long putter
Starting point is 00:38:15 today, how she's like, wow, her stance has like gotten really wide today trying to like stabilize her. And I never really thought about that, but big, I'm sure that's just how you naturally live your life. You know, it's a lot windy up there where you're at. Then we're, you know, me and definitely, we know where his height's at. You know, we got a little bit stronger base. It's a hundred percent a thing. I swear, you know, you're a little taller. You just get, you know, it's just easier to kind of, I feel like those, you know, those things they put outside the car dealership when it gets real windy, you just constantly kind of getting battered.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Whereas like somebody like Miyu Yamashita, she's 4'11 on her Wikipedia. You know, she's just not getting affected by the wind like that. It's, I do think there is a bit to it. Yeah. But yeah, Yalimi's hitting it great. I mean, even with like, God, she was so frustrated with the putter today.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Um, to be like tied for six, I, it's, it's a good week for it, but you're right. It, it, it might feel like a bit of a lost week also. Um, yeah. No, she, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You get two Eagles. So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah sitting at T6. Yeah. Grace Kim, 68, low round of the day today. I went out early and got it. There's two players, TC, that are absolutely kicking themselves about their first opening rounds here. That's Ronnie who fired 76. She followed
Starting point is 00:40:00 that up with a 71 and then 72 today plus three overall sitting at T 10. Yeah. And then really made a late double on 17 that really she could have been kind of. Yeah, that was good. Yeah, you're right. Hardly. Yeah. Both both of them, they even Wednesday when I saw them, I was like watching them, you know, practice and stuff. I was like, oh, like, you know, I thought for sure like Ronnie would be up for this.
Starting point is 00:40:22 And Charlie, you never really know a travel and and how she is But she's won in in North Dallas before you know She won the volunteers of America down at the colony or whatever I was like, you know, she'll she's used this that event was like the end of August and it was so damn hot It's probably the one time I'm ever gonna say it's a good thing. That event is no longer on the schedule when it was But yeah 78 and then firing that, you know, coming back with the 69, 73 today, but climbing up the leaderboard. Yeah. You mentioned Leona. She had a good quote. She just, I don't know. I love her
Starting point is 00:40:58 mindset. Leona, they were asking about the setup and everything. And Leona said it, quote, I mean, it's a major. this is a little bit more how I thought Aaron Hills would play but we didn't get the weather in Aaron Hills that I thought we would she goes on to say yeah you just have to be very disciplined and execute your shots which I don't have a problem within a major championship maybe that's a good. I'll say to running in and of course they played well today, but I don't think it's a coincidence You know Leona running Nelly great attitude Running in was asked about the setup. She just said yeah, I love it. I mean you got to I love playing in tough conditions Just make you better and better. It's brutal, but it's fun
Starting point is 00:41:43 which just make you better and better. It's brutal, but it's fun. Which big to your point on another player I want to shout out Angel, love Angel, friend of the program. Angel was complaining that the driving was boring, that it was a bunch of boring driver holes. Well, she's not driving it very well this week. I think by her standards, she's like T20 or T25. Yeah. Just saying. Need you to lock in a little Angel. I'm like, Oh, she's going to get karma does not like that. I just was doubting that she was going to fall for it. And I was like, Oh, I'm going to go with that. And then I was like, Oh, I'm going to go with that.
Starting point is 00:42:10 And then I was like, Oh, I'm going to go with that. And then I was like, Oh, I'm going to go with that. And then I was like, Oh, I'm going to go with that. And then I was like, Oh, I'm going to go with that. And then I was like, Oh, I'm going to go with that. And then I was like, Oh, I'm going to go with that. And then I was like, Oh, I'm going to go with that. What did I say? You know, I'm like, oh, she's going to get karma does not like that. I just was doubting that she was going to follow that up. Um, well, let's, let's get into fields ranch then, because I think this is probably besides Minji and Gino, this is probably right. There is the story of the week, certainly through three days. The PTI, the proper test index is loving Fields Ranch East.
Starting point is 00:42:50 It was at 11 heading into today, and I think today it's lowered a little, just over eight. There was no clear wave advantage. I just have a few statistics for you guys to kind of set up the conversation. Early late was an average through the first two rounds of seventy five point nine nine while late early was seventy five point five nine Entering today both waves had five women inside the top ten It does seem like there's more of a correlation, you know, if you're if you're putting it well
Starting point is 00:43:22 The top ten and strokes gained putting through three rounds have an average position of about 12, while the top 10 in strokes gained T to green have an average position of 24. But I think it all leads up to Stacey Lewis, who is a KPMG ambassador, you know, is not gonna go out of her way to flame the course, the venue, the setup.
Starting point is 00:43:47 She was quoted, Bethann Nichols wrote this up in Golf Week Friday as part of a longer... A little bit convoluted. Yeah. She's trying to tie about four different things together. As part of a longer article, but I have a few Stacey Lewis quotes relating to the setup. Let me read these and then would love to hear your guys' thoughts.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Stacey Lewis, quote, we had such a good run with this championship at very good golf courses and then we come here. As a reminder, they were at Baltis raw Atlanta athletic club, congressional, Sahale, were the four immediately prior to this. Quoting Stacey again, the issue of this all too is make us look good. We're trying to get more people to watch women's golf and to watch us play golf and setups like this,
Starting point is 00:44:37 they don't help us. And this is when we have our biggest stages, network TV and all of that. And we're making very good players look silly. TC. Get out of here with that. I mean she's the same person that wanted to move LPGA headquarters to Carlton Woods in Houston and make that like the showcase spot for LPGA moving forward. That place stinks. It's not the most aesthetically pleasing golf course. I think we would all agree on that. It's both the colors and the backdrops and even just the sounds. It's your generators for construction or planes and stuff.
Starting point is 00:45:25 I mean, Cody, you can speak to it better on site. It doesn't sound like it's dialed from an on-site perspective too. It's tough to go watch people. It's a big site. It's a, I heard some not great things about the shuttles and just the logistics in and out. You know, it's interesting to see kind of how they set it up.
Starting point is 00:45:47 I've I've tended to like it. I think it's identifying like the best player for the most part. I think there's you know, but I think at the end of the day, it's a course that was designed to test the best men in the world. And especially some of these par threes, it's not designed like, I think that it's not designed to receive run up shots as much as, you know, like some of these greens, there's just not a whole lot of pinnable space. If you're going to play it from longer, I do hear some of the, some of the whinging and agree with it on, you know, a whole like eight or 17 of like, I think they're probably playing those holes a little bit too long. But like Bethann's piece was trying to tie in, like she already thinks that they play every course too long and Brandel does too.
Starting point is 00:46:30 And then I think the par fives have been properly set up this week. They're playing among the easiest on three of the four playing among the easiest on the course. I thought they did a great job setting up 15. I was drivable and it took a good shot to get it on. So, um, I think they did a great job setting up 15. I was drivable and it took a good shot to get it on. So I think overall, I think there's going to be growing pains here. I don't think it's the most fan-friendly venue. But at the end of the day, and I think there's probably some stuff that they can do with, I think they're going with less runway tee boxes and more like, you know, actual T boxes that
Starting point is 00:47:09 are flatter and everything. I think they're going to make that change. You know, they can grow in, like, I think it's going to add more texture over time too, with native grasses and all that. But overall, I mean, I think like the course was kind of Gil Hans's dare of like, hey, if you're, if you guys aren't going to do anything about the golf ball, this is the shit that we have to resort to to test the best players in the world. That's what this golf course is. And I think they're identifying the best player this week, bar none by far. So the leaderboard is great. Yeah. Cody, your thoughts? No, I agree. I think it's hard to say that, you know, I guess I can meet you there on eight and I'm not going to meet you there on 17. The actual yardage on 17 was 124, 114 and 103. And that's where it should be. I'm just saying as far as like if you did play that farther back,
Starting point is 00:48:07 like that green is like something out of the sand belt or something like LACC, you know? Correct. Eight, you know, it's one of those things where, you know, it's very hard when you have a green that's, you know, shaped the way that it is with a, you know, bunker front right and pretty severe runoff back left and you're, the wind is always coming over your right shoulder and it's hard to hit the shot there, but I'll say this and I tweeted it today, you know, Gino has birdied that hole all three days. Yeah. So you can kind of miss me with it's impossible. You know, at the start of today,
Starting point is 00:48:47 possible. All players, we had seven women that were under par. None of them had bogeyed it. Ninjis played it in one under for the three rounds. Yeah. You know, it's just, you got to hit the shots out there. But there is Bethann's piece mixed a lot of different things together. There you have, you know, there's an equipment issue that we can talk about. There's a setup issue that we can talk about here. Or are we talking about a design issue? And they're not doing a very good job of mixing all those together in that piece. And then like putting, oh, it's television, it's making us look silly. And I
Starting point is 00:49:27 don't think that's the case at all. You have network television, you are on network television, hopefully getting, you know, the diehard sickos. And I'll say, like overall ratings wise, people appreciate good golf, and the viewer understands what good hard golf is and what good golf shots are. We can see the wind blowing. And I don't think, you know, people need to look at a scoreboard and have it be 27 under par and be like, wow, they're great.
Starting point is 00:49:55 You know, I think that terms more people off, but I understand that's what, you know, they, they, they like doing that on the LPGA tour. And I think that's part of the LPGA Tour's issues right now, which I hope their new commissioner changes because I don't think that that's actually properly highlighting the best players that they have. This week is highlighting the best golfers that they have on the LPGA Tour. Cody, I think like six of the top 12 players on like the CME rankings are like in the top 10 on the leaderboard. And Bethann's also, she's bang the drum to make the week to week LPGA courses easier,
Starting point is 00:50:41 which a lot of weeks 16, 18, 19 under par wins. And so I think you're doing a disservice to ladies as well. Like they're not accustomed to playing proper golf courses like this. There's a reason that Minji Lee doesn't have 15 LPGA tour wins. It's because they're not playing golf courses that identify her as the best player. It's a birdie fast. I think I don't know, overall, it's just, yeah, like like, what do we want this to be? Do we want to be a major championship or do we want it to be like, you know, the founders, right? I mean, it's, it's, it's two different things here. And it's, and then on top of it, on the broadcast, you've got Morgan Presle, just saying, Oh, sheesh, that was bad luck after every single
Starting point is 00:51:23 missed green or every single instead of telling us why or what that player is looking at or how that ball ended up there or you know what? Yeah. That, that bunker, you know, the wind off the right, like give us some Intel, give us some actual analysis. Yeah. I, as you guys know, we've all played fields ranch though. The fairways are so wide. If you miss a fairway, you probably hit a really bad shot. You know, outside of probably nine, 18 this week, that's nine, that puts them in a very weird position because I struggle with that hole as well because if you're hitting, you can't really
Starting point is 00:52:00 hit driver because it runs all the way down in this shit. All right. But for me, I can't fair or hybrid is the shot for me there because three wood runs down and then you have like this weird, you know, you're on a down slope in rough trying to hit to a green and the winds coming behind you. It's like, it's a very difficult shot, but you hit hybrid and you basically, you know, aim at the center line and hope that it hits one of the others, you know, hits it on either side of it. So I understand that hole and where it's at. But the rest of it is, you know, it's, it's tough. Everything can't look the same, you know, and I think we all get so used to courses
Starting point is 00:52:41 that are, you know, this golf course is going to continue to grow in and it's not going to be aesthetically pleasing pleasing because it's in the prairie man. Yeah, it's basically like, you know, desert with a little bit of grass out there. That will help North Texas, you know, but now they need to have it in July or in late June. Well, that's an own goal by the KPMG. Yeah, we need to talk about that. Yeah. Right. I mean, shit, have it in the fall, for God's sake. Right. Right. Yeah. Get a little creative. I'll say this. In two years during the PGA championship that's there, we're going to be having the opposite conversation because it's going to be in early-h mid May and all we get is rain.
Starting point is 00:53:26 And we're going to talk about, man, if only it was firm and fast and the wind was up, you know, there's not going to be a lot of wind and it's going to be pretty soft and we're going to sit here and go, sheesh, as they're playing it from 8,000 yards. Yeah. Well, and I'd say too, the fairways are hittable. Obviously a strong wind makes that more of a challenge just to find any part of the fairway, but you also kind of got to be in decent spots
Starting point is 00:53:53 within the fairway to give yourself the best look at the green. Just because you hit a fairway doesn't mean you should automatically have a comfortable approach shot in. Same with if you are missing fairways and in the rough, yeah, like it might be a chop out. It might be tough to hold a green. It might be tough to make a part.
Starting point is 00:54:14 That's I believe major championship golf. And I totally agree with the sentiment of, I think this is a lot more of what I want to see and what I like. And I think it just reinforces what week to week on the LPGA. They're just not tested like anywhere near this capacity. And so I think, Ron, as you said, like the best players, the quote unquote best players, most of them are right up there. You know, you have all the big names on the leaderboard.
Starting point is 00:54:48 But I just think, yeah, it's a bit of a disservice when you're going to take your pick of annual stops. We get the easy birdie fest. We do. Yeah, they're just not being tested in their short game or managing a golf course. It seems like there you're probably just kind of turning into autopilot and just swinging the golf club. So I don't know, Jordan, I was curious one thing,
Starting point is 00:55:13 because this is a bit of an awkward, I guess, thing for me to ask, but, or for me to comment on. I'm gonna use you being a woman to get your opinion. I felt like the broadcast, and do have issues with with the broadcast But it almost felt like there was like this pitying of the players like oh Oh, it's really tough out there for like, I don't know. We just got done with the men's open at Oakmont You're not hearing announcers being like, oh, this is really tough. Like, oh, these poor women, you know, oh, it's like, is that, am I just reading into that too much?
Starting point is 00:55:51 Is there a bit of a double standard? Like, hey, these are the best women in the world. Like, they should have a proper test. I'm curious your thoughts there. You're not because that language is like, kind of normalized in a weird way on these broadcasts. And it's really weird. And like I notice it a lot specifically with NBC and I'm just like, yeah, like that's
Starting point is 00:56:13 what we're all here for. We're here to get tested. Where, you know, there's going to be bad shots. What is like, the pitting of it is all weird and I don't, yeah. So you're not reading into it too much at all I've noticed this actually a lot and like especially the past few years and I just again it's like strange it's like this is sport this is competition like this this is what everybody is a ride for to do so I mean what yeah like why why in our language talking about women playing the sport, are we meeting that with pity or, you know, it's
Starting point is 00:56:47 weird. And I wish there was a little bit less of it. I don't know. I, instead of just, in a sense, you know, and I guess you can commend the survival part of it, and that's not necessarily, you know, as disparaging. And maybe they don't think they're being disparaging or, you know, but it is. I don't think it's malicious, but it just comes off like- I don't think it's malicious. I think it's just- It's such a tell though.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well that's, yeah. And I just think generally like, I don't't know we can do an extended hamster damn Maybe tomorrow, but like I do want to credit KPMG and the PGA I don't know, you know what percent of credit should go where but We have a ton more Broadcast windows, right? There's more hours where I can watch this championship. You gotta have a Peacock subscription.
Starting point is 00:57:47 That's another story, but I've kind of resigned myself to that fight. But you can certainly watch a lot more of this championship. TC, like you said, the feature group coverage, while not robust, was certainly additive. I enjoyed getting to watch those rounds, certainly Thursday, Friday. The those rounds, certainly Thursday,
Starting point is 00:58:05 Friday. The shot link, the statistics, the data that's available as a fan is tremendous. But I just come back to like the NBC broadcast team, there's just no juice. Like there's nobody in that in that booth that really is like making me feel excited, teaching me a lot. I just, and it's nothing personal, you know, all the usual caveats, nice people, like, but I don't know. I wish Morgan gave us a little bit more. She seems just like to be almost too buttoned up, a little too, like she just doesn't want to say anything that would ruffle any feathers. I think Terry and Tom are, you know, they're not, they're just like NPCs. It's just like, yes, they're like, they're like replacement level players
Starting point is 00:58:55 that a lot of windup doll type. Yeah. And it's not, I think Terry's a talented reporter. Like I think he are talented analysts or, you know, hosts and everything. But I just he's not the guy that's going to get me excited to my flip on it at 3 p.m. You know, and then who knows what happens tomorrow? And I don't think they're going to finish in six hours. Tomorrow, like now in three sums, so that, you know, like the leaders are going to be getting to what, 15 or 16 at 6 p.m. What's NBC going to do? Yeah. And the local news. and We can talk about this more tomorrow. Champcast, I don't want them, you know, they'll send us a note saying, hey, it's not shopping, it's Champcast there.
Starting point is 00:59:49 But you're right, we have way more robust stats and everything else like that. Yeah, this is great. My thing is, you know, it's just, how do you go from the US Women's Open? It's the same broadcast team or same broadcast network and we don't got any of those toys here. No, Tommy roy's toys are back in the closet we do not have tommy's toys is that like a thing you know dan doesn't dan's not on the road this week it's terry show uh cara who they made it it's such a huge deal i think that
Starting point is 01:00:19 was her first time hosting or in the lead broadcaster seat opposite of dan she's also time hosting or in the lead broadcaster seat opposite of Dan. She's also not there. It's just, you know, Terry. I don't know. I just, there's so many really good people out there in the broadcast world. They're like, are people that are listening in the UK sky is literally just taking this dog shit coverage. Like how hard is it? They were part of the same give us the international feed and just superimpose that into NBC. Or like for the week pay to have, you know, Iona come over to be extra help on course and have fucking Ali Whitaker or Sophie Walker or anybody, you know, And get Mel back from, from live from.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Yes. Make it elevate it please yeah yeah um let's do we're let's do a fan duel uh look here let's let's look at tomorrow jp you got five players uh we're gonna get to that but cody can you flash the the fan duel odds up right? I'm curious as we look at the live market, I'm seeing on my end of course, odd subject to change as they always are. I'm seeing to win Minji Lee currently minus 300. I'm seeing Gino at plus 360. And then Fandool is telling us it's it's a two-horse race
Starting point is 01:01:48 Heijin Choi is plus 3,500 Nelly plus 4,500 Mew Yamashita plus 5,000 Lexi plus 6,500 and then that's the biggest golf I've seen in a long time. Yeah, that's crazy. Tron you're you're kind of feeling it this week. You're seeing your lines. I mean, I don't see a ton of value here, I guess, heading into Sunday. Yeah, no, I think it's either, you know, you take Minji and then parlay it with something else or do you take Gino and kind of, you know of bet on some chaos, I guess? I don't think both of them are going to collapse. And I think it would take a lot from
Starting point is 01:02:30 Ijen Choi or Nelly or Lexi or anybody else to kind of get up there. So again, the one that kind of just leaves me like, Gilemi's plus 11000 and she should be right there with, you know, right there, at least to like minus two or minus three Just such a bummer. So and then checking it in over on the traveler's side like, you know similar Tommy minus 175 but then you got Keegan plus 400 Russell Henley plus 450 brilliant 61 from him today We can talk about it tomorrow night, but like he penalized himself yesterday,
Starting point is 01:03:07 Russell did for a ball, you know, moving in the rough as he was addressing it as well. So, you know, good on him, but yeah, next closest after that is J-Day plus 2000. And then Scotty at plus 9,000. That's perfect. Thank you, of course, odd subject to change to our friends at FanDuel Sports.
Starting point is 01:03:25 TC, you're kind of in a blender here. We're gonna see you out of this show here in a little bit. I don't know if you got to go pack like a night bag or something like that or what do you got cooking here, dog? I actually got to go cook. The kids are like beating on the door. I got the curl fired up and stuff. That's fair. I got some pork chops tonight. But, um, but no, Cody, I'll keep listening here on the back end, but I just wanted to hear what you had about kind of fans on site, the on site experience. Cause looking at, looking at even some of the stuff, like I know it's hot out there, but some of the grandstands down the stretch today were mostly empty. Yeah. Sorry. Just to piggyback, I think Stacey's ire should have been more directed at the build out for spectators than the core setup. But yeah, Cody, you've been there. What have you
Starting point is 01:04:19 seen and experienced? That's just TC. I asked him a question. What are you doing tomorrow? And he's just deflecting, deflecting, deflecting. He's a pro. Gosh. Well, no, I mean, keep us posted, please. Keep the world posted. And feed your kids. If you need to go feed your kids, please go feed your kids. And again, and then one of the questions you guys had for me too was like disappointments. Like, well, my disappointments were like Lin Grant, Madeline Zagstrom, Jason Mcgut. I called out the Swedes and started the war and you see it hasn't been good. Yeah. And Ingrid Lindblad. All those fair weather countries can't hit a lead.
Starting point is 01:04:53 MCs. I think the you know, the Care Bridge financial team, or the core bridge financial team tough week for them. It was always going to be a tough week there. I think couple 90 burgers thrown up. There were 10 80s today. So that was not a disappointment for me. That was a great thing. But yeah, I'll let you guys take it. But Cody, what did you see out there? Because I'm genuinely curious as to how the onsite experience looked and felt. It's a great setup there, TC. Have fun cooking. Best of luck tomorrow, whatever you got going on. but you know, our hearts are behind you either way. Thank you guys. Yeah, so, you know, there's people in the chat, I've seen them that are kind of have been out to
Starting point is 01:05:36 the event and everything. It's really tough outside of like three golf holes. You know, they have a parking setup right across, right across the street from the main, you know, it's a big campus, 600 and some acres here. And they say, yes, right across the street, but it's a walk from the time that you get from parking to ticketing in through down the back end of the driving range up and then you're like, you know, right there were the main clubhouse is and then 18 green and nine green. And that's really the only build out I would say there's a couple of random, uh, grandstands out there, but no cover for people that are
Starting point is 01:06:15 familiar with, you know, Texas. There's a reason why the, the event didn't stick around Trinity forest is because there's no trees that are out there. And that's kinda how it felt, you know, at times this week too. You know, why would I go sit in a grandstand when there's absolutely no shade offered or anything else like that? So it's tough, but the scene around nine and 18 is a good, decent sized build out.
Starting point is 01:06:43 I would say it's very similar to the Chevron. It just stinks, man. I know that there are never, we're a long ways away from equality in between these two sports and a lot of it is driven by revenue and everything else like that. But it's just like, man, look at the calendar, pull up the forecast and realize that if you're inviting a bunch of kids out today for, you know, PGA family golf day or whatever, you got to have some place to be able to put them some, some shade, additional mystery or shit like
Starting point is 01:07:13 that. On the good side of it, it's free water, wherever you want. And they're spread out all over this golf course. And I walked the golf course probably three or four different times this week so far between practice rounds and everything else. So it's never, you know, you're never far away from free bottled water, which I appreciate most events, you know, definitely the PGA of America in the past have charged ridiculous amounts for that. So I like that. They're, you know, that's a one plus there, but it is a very tough spectating course. You're funneled basically down one side because, you know, there's a lot of natural waste and everything that's out there and they're not going to put any rope lines through there.
Starting point is 01:07:58 So it's just tough. They need some more, need more build out more cover. Definitely. If they plan on keeping, keeping it around the same date when they come back again in 2031. Yeah. I had heard from two different caddies. I was, I had started asking them, you know, cause I was curious about set up and if it was unfair and, and et cetera, et cetera. But the one thing that both mentioned explicitly was just, man, it'd be nice. One said, it'd be nice if we took,
Starting point is 01:08:29 and I'm sure the ladies would agree to this. Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't. But you take some of that money that's being pumped into the purse and you just do more to like, I don't know if you gotta give tickets away, get kids, get families out, just to try to build more of an atmosphere.
Starting point is 01:08:48 But like you said, Cody, this time of year, I just feel like that's a losing proposition at this venue specifically. It's just, it's gonna be hot and there's just not a ton of shade. It just seems like they were never set up for success based on the calendar. And I think that the two conclusions that these caddies kind of had were,
Starting point is 01:09:13 man, if, if, if this is your first women's golf event, if this is your first LPGA event, you're probably not in a hurry to come back out anytime soon. I think that's really a shame. Um, you know, one thing that we kind of, I don't know, we joke about, but it's, you know, it's like gallows humor is like, it can be, I don't know. It just seems like sometimes it's really hard to like be a fan of this sport, it feels like. And I think a little bit for the people on the ground
Starting point is 01:09:41 trying to be out at this golf tournament, it just hasn't been the easiest setup build out. Um, yeah, it's just a shame. I don't know. Um, well, it's also hard as a, if you go to this event as a spectator to realize that once you get where, you know, everything kind of funnels you into that you're walking, you're like, okay, I'm going to follow into that you're walking you're like okay I'm gonna follow a group
Starting point is 01:10:06 you're walking in completely opposite directions of where like food and anything else to drink besides water is at yeah that's one that you're not gonna see that again until you come all the way back that's what they said there's like no concession stands once you get out outside of that main hub. Like no place to have a beer, no place to, yeah. Any complaints about broadcasts being inaccessible, but for like the on-site experience to make things literally inaccessible is very unexcusable. Yeah, it just, I don't know. and excusable. Yeah, it just, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:50 What I do know is that there's so many organizations tied into the property that they will get it fixed. You know, I know that not only when we come back for the men in two years, it'll be of course a much bigger build out, but all of these logistical things will be fixed and then I hope, and I'm build out, but all of these logistical things will be fixed. And I hope and I'm sure that the more events that they hold of this size by 2031, it'll be back to the same because nobody likes… Nobody's happy with this right now. No, you know, I think yeah at any real level and it goes from not just you know, the course and and The temperature or the wind or anything else like that. Those are things that we all knew going into it
Starting point is 01:11:34 but there's a lot of back-end issues that are dampening the overall enjoyment of this event from fans from players from Anybody else who is around there. Volunteers, normal staff, you name it. Craig Kessler, he's a Dallas guy, new commissioner, not technically on the job yet, but these are things we... Oh, he is though. He is. He is the COO of the PGA of America, still. Yeah, he's still in his old capacity. That's right. Kind of, yeah, meeting of the world.
Starting point is 01:12:11 All right, Jordan, let's get out of here. I'm more of an upbeat. No, we'll do a predict the winner on the way out, but I attached you and I apologize. We're, you know, 70 minutes in, but I was like, Jordan, I would love for you to come with like five women that we should know a little bit more of so I'm fascinated what direction you went here
Starting point is 01:12:30 Tell us just a little bit about you can go whatever order you want to but but who are five women this week that we should Just know a little bit more of so I tried to keep it within the top 20 of today Just so you know in case something crazy happens or something we see a name etc etc that they are recognizable. So this was actually very fun thank you for tasking me with this. I had a good time. I learned some things along the way learned a little more about some players I even kind of knew about. So I am just as you said going to go in a very random order. Cody forgive me if I flash these up incorrectly. For some reason I lose all of my memory when I am backstage and operating things as you know.
Starting point is 01:13:16 But I'm going to kick it off with our first one, Miranda Wang. She is a rookie this year on the LPGA. So I knew Miranda Wang for a while because she won the match that won Duke a national championship in extra holes. So that was some BD stuff during her college career. Let me just interject. She's currently tied for 18th. She's gone 77, 72, 72. So after a tough opening day, she's fired back to back even par rounds. Miranda Wang, yes. Miranda Wang, yep. Number 212 in the world. She's an Epson Tour winner. She's only missed one cut this season as an LPGA rookie. So she's having a good
Starting point is 01:13:59 season, all things considered. And yes, currently tied for 18th at the KPNG Women's PGA Tough year to be a rookie with all the Japanese success if you're not one of those, you know, ey twins or yeah Okay, keep going. All right Next one will do Brianna Doe She's gotten a lot of run on the coverage Reason for good reason. Oh darling reason. Also currently tied for 18th. Responsible for a lot of highlights this week, including an ace on the fourth roll.
Starting point is 01:14:33 So sick. Like I shouted out short queens earlier, shout out to a short queen. I think she's like five three, which I'm five two, so I'm right there with my fellow short sister. Um, but yeah, 35 years old, turned pro in 2012, uh, had a college career at UCLA, 594th in the world guys. So crazy. Sorry, no, I was just gonna say what an awesome on track to give herself a really nice paycheck this week Which is you know that goes a long way for somebody like her Yeah, she's an Epson tour member with two LPGA starts this year. She had a t10 in Mexico So she's been on a good run. She was mentioning it on the broadcast
Starting point is 01:15:19 They pulled her aside for an interview after her round and she was talking about how much good shit momentum She had had of lately So I find that particularly interesting having a nice little late career renaissance. Guys, I found this really interesting. This is sort of a rare breed. She won the Publinks in 2011 and then I started to wonder how many Publinks winners do we even have anymore in professional golf? I thought that was so sick. Yeah, I wonder. That's a very good point. Jordan, where has she been? What has she been doing?
Starting point is 01:15:56 I just pulled up her bio here. So she, I'm assuming, got her card or she played Epson Tour in 2012. And then by 2014, she's playing pretty much a full schedule on the LPGA Tour. So what's the backstory? I think she's just been on and off, guys. I think that's the backstory. She had a very up-and-down career. I will say, looking at her LPGA profile, she's never won on the LPGA tour. Only has one career top 10 and her official career earnings are just over 400,000. And so going back to like, you know, if she has a good day tomorrow,
Starting point is 01:16:35 like 10th place is due to pay out 235,000. So, you know, depending on if she does play well tomorrow, she could almost equal her career earnings to date just this week, which is crazy. So crazy. So that's Breanna Dell. All right. Moving on. You mean Hong number 42 in the world. So she's in offer ranking.
Starting point is 01:17:00 She plays normally on the Cape LPGA. She's won twice in Korea. She's had a really impressive putting week. I had that in my notes. A bit of a longer hitter. Currently tied for 18th as well. I have three in a row that are tied for 18th. I want to say, no, that's all I remember going through this and thinking, oh my God, I had so many people tied for 18th. Just three. Currently tied for 18th. This I found particularly interesting. I found this from a Korean, I guess, I don't think it was a newspaper. I think it was just more of like a digital, one of their digital websites from the male business leader. Her nickname is the assault
Starting point is 01:17:42 captain. That's right. I'm loving it. I always default to for all of the KLPGA players to the soul sisters.com website. I just noticed her. So I went to soul leader and I double checked and it was the assault leader. But then I also saw assault captain. That's sick. I love that nickname. She did. She was at Aaron Hills too. She made the cut, but kind of faded on the weekend, finished tied for 56. But I think Jordan, as you say, with her success on the KLPGA, maybe somebody that we'll see
Starting point is 01:18:19 at least a few times a year in majors, perhaps. Definitely. All right. Moving on. We've talked about her a little bit, I feel like, in the past, but I am happy to bring her up again. She got a little bit of shine on the broadcast today. Austin Kim, number 98th in the world, currently tied for 10th,
Starting point is 01:18:37 had an All-American career at Vanderbilt, was an Annika Award contender, earned her card after she won the season ending Epson Tour event in 2023 and played well enough to keep her card for the 2025 season. I thought this was interesting. She ranks third in driving distance on the LPGA overall this season, which I thought was really cool. And tied for 10th this week.
Starting point is 01:19:00 I mean, again, someone else who a big week, big week, even though yes, she's ranked number 98, not 594th in the world, still could mean a lot for her as well. I am a big Austin Kim fan. I was digging the just the aesthetic today, the big sunglasses. I like her golf swing. I think she's a little bit, you know, I'm not sure if she's going to like win anytime soon necessarily, but I feel like she is somebody that's taking steps and is, it just keeps getting better. I think we're going to hear Austin Kim's name. I like that. Agreed great week for her truly. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:19:44 And so my fifth and final one was also currently tied for tenth is Somi Lee. Number 60 in the world is also one on the KLPGA. Tied for tenth going in tomorrow, like I said. I found this really interesting. She is sponsor-less. I guess I didn't confirm who she had previously been sponsored by. But as you can tell on her bucket hat, she's rid of any branding. No sponsors. Yeah, she has had no sponsors for a little bit. I was independently kind of looking up stuff about her as well as she was on the front page of the leaderboard. She is now full time LPGA.
Starting point is 01:20:24 She obviously got her start in Korea, had some success over there, and then earned her tour card at the end of 2023. So this is kind of her second full season on the LPGA. And I'll just say, Jordan, I think she's somebody that too that, you know, she's made 11 cuts and 12 starts this year. I think she's somebody that it's great to know.
Starting point is 01:20:46 I think week to week, she's just going to be a name that's going to be around quite a bit. So good, good pull there. All right. Well, there are five. Yeah. Five women on on the leaderboard, the top 20 that I think everybody will know a little bit more about tomorrow. Guys, let's get out of here on this. Is Minji Lee gonna win tomorrow or does anybody want to stick their neck out and take somebody else?
Starting point is 01:21:12 JP, we're always gonna put you on the spot first. Who's your pick? I'm Team Minji. I think she's got no scar tissue. I'm team Minji. But she's playing defense all day, I think. I don't think we're getting a big round out of her again. I think everybody's playing defense. It's like who can play the best defense? Cody, you taking Minji? No, I'm going to bucket here and go with Gino. I think everybody's due for a bad round every tournament. I know, fortunately, back in my mind, I don't think we've seen Minji's yet. And I think there's a lot more for her tomorrow writing on it, then Gino with a chance to run out and actually get it. And that's why I'm gonna go with Gino. Now, if these were rolled reversed, I would be like, ooh, I think Minji, you know, has a better shot here, but I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:11 I think, you know, Gino's kind of proven it to herself. She had a bad day today. She'll bounce back from that. And that's where I'm going. Sorry, TC, I'm going Gino. I know. I think I'm gonna ride with you, Cody. I'm gonna take Gino too.
Starting point is 01:22:24 It feels a little, Minji feels a little Sam Burns ish right where it's like you just know some struggles are coming. I who yeah I the more I talk the more I think I think tomorrow is going to be really fascinating because if Minji does back up G Gino, you know, who knows what we'll see, and then I'll be curious with the setup and the conditions if anybody, you know, if there is a 6970 out there, you know, for Alexi or any of these for Nellie, yeah, I think it's gonna be good theater. All right, I think we call that a show.
Starting point is 01:23:04 We'll be back tomorrow for the live show. Everybody watching. Thank you very much. Everybody listening. Thank you very much. Thank you to titleists. Thank you to Fandool. Um, yeah, let's uh, let's have a great day tomorrow. Let's pray that we get it in and under six hours for that final. Either way, we'll be back up and I'm excited live from the Killhouse tomorrow night. We're pumped.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Randy, let's go get it brother. Hell yeah. Jordan. Thank you. Cheers everybody. Cheers.

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