No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1063: Mic'd up with Matt Ryan at the Creator Classic

Episode Date: August 29, 2025

What’s it really like to tee it up at the Creator Classic at East Lake? We threw a mic on Soly and his caddie, Matt Ryan, to find out. With D.J. Pie — freshly retired from looping duties — guiding us along, we cover the highs, lows, and everything in between. Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Support our sponsors: Titleist - the #1 Ball in Golf Rhoback - Best Fit, Best Feel. rhoback.com/NLU for NLU x Erin Hills The Stack - code NOLAYINGUP at thestacksystem.com/NLU for 10% off Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I feel like it's a deep dive into another man's life when you see how they keep their bag organized. Oh my gosh. Solly's a disorganized mess. We've got zippers open all over the place. Be the right club. Be the right club today. Yes. That's better than most.

How about in? That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different? Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of the No Laying Up podcast. Going to do things a little bit differently. I got miced up. My guy Matt Ryan, for some reason, was my caddy at the Creator Classic.

He got miced up. Scattered a west, right, tight, F left. Scat 322, Y-stick line. Alert, triple-right, flop, empty. got 22 hunt. We are going to take you on somewhat of an immersive audio experience. We're not going to go shot by shot by shot by shot by shot. There were way too many of those, but take you inside the ropes of what this experience was like to play in front of a fair amount of people and a fair amount of people watching on television. DJ Pi is going to help guide me

along. Hello, DJ. Hello, Sally. Good or should I say Sully based on some of the analysis that I heard. Okay. That's good there, Sully. Great to be with you. You know, I'm transitioning. A lot of people, you know, are how come you how come you weren't on the bag it's that's a young man's game you know it's not a lifetime it's not a lifetime career i'm transitioning into the booth i'm gonna huck some takes i'm gonna ask you some questions and uh i think we're just gonna get into it you know i uniquely qualified to be the interviewer here i feel like will you be auditing the caddying duties of mr matt rye of course as a professional you know that's part of my role in the booth is to uh is to hold people to

account and uh really be the voice of the fan here you're like bones you've you've graduated from you know at massive, massive venues to just commenting now. Exactly. You think Bones misses carrying those 60-pound bags around? You know, he's carrying a microphone around and leaving after the last putt drops. It's probably great. I like Bones, though, man.

Like, I love Bones on the bag. That's probably a little bit too much conversation for my liking as a player with him and Phil. But, like, Bones just seems like he'd find to have a beer once. Yeah. All right, before we get going, of course, always brought to you by our friends at Tidalist. Saw that. I got imagine got some titles, golf clubs in the bag.

I did, Dege. Thank you for breaking that news. I am gaming the GT3 driver in this. I had the GT2 in the bag at Sawgrass. My back is awoken enough to the point where I think I can put the big boy back in play the GT3. Might have got humbled on that front. Might be going back to the GT2. But anyways, you know how it is.

GT3-3 would as well. But I got the new T-Series irons in the bag. I have the T-1505 through pitching wedge. And then I had the T-250-4 iron in the set. I'm like the 80% of golfers on the PGA tour that have a blended set. I have the Voki SM 10 wedges. I have a 48 degree, a 54 degree, and a 58 degree with four degrees of bounce. And then I'm gaming the Scotty Cameron Fastback studio style putter, which I was really excited to put into the test here. One, it was what saved me at the first creator classic. Pudding on

fast greens, I need that little insert in there that helps that ball come off a little bit more dead off the club face and you're going to be playing on pGA tour speed greens like this is where that putter pays off you can hit have a big nice full stroke with it and that's my my favorite thing about this putter i play the pro v1 golf ball which is a little lower flight lower spin golf ball uh and i've had had had a lot of success with this golf ball it's a perfect golf ball for me so that's what's in the bag listen i know we're not talking about my golf game but can i shout out the title is u505 two iron that i just got that that was like i've been looking for something at the top of the bag, get me off some of these T-boxes.

Oh, my God, where have you been all my life? That's all I'm going to say. We can save that conversation for another day, but holy smokes, that is a weapon, man. So the Creator Classic has gone through a couple of different iterations. I played in the second iteration of it at TPC Sawgrass at the Players' Championship, the Wednesday before the tournament kicks off. That was 10 people, one winner, but you played eight whole stroke play event in the top three from that one made it into the finals.

I was fortunate enough to be one of those top three miraculously. But Sali, he's coming back. He's playing more and more golf. You've got three little ones at home and you know how that goes, Shane. It's not the easiest thing to dip in on practice. I was invited back to the Tour Championship one.

This one was 12 people for four spots. Eight holes, all you got to do is make the top four. Then you're going to play the 18th hole. And winner of the 18th hole gets $100,000. That's Eastlake, Cathedral of Golf. The pros will take it on tomorrow. Today it's the creators, 12 of them all vined for $100,000 if you win this thing. I'm, of course, an amateur golfer.

I was playing this for the kids. We just recently started the No Lang Up Endowed Scholarship with the Evans Scholars Foundation. And that was a big hook for me to go play this was, listen, are the odd small? Sure, but there was an opportunity for me to win $100,000 and really kickstart our fundraising for that scholarship. And at minimum, I can talk about this scholarship now. raise some awareness of it and that's what we're doing right here because i didn't win guys i did not win the 100 000 well i'm interested to break down how you didn't win that's uh that's what we're going to do here today but i think before we get to it biggest question i have on my mind

i got to hear how this matt ryan thing came together how do you know matt ryan uh why did he say yes to this i just i have so many questions and and we've talked about creators the most famous person out on the golf course right now is sallie's caddy matt ryan What did he do? I think he was a, was he a quarterback? Oh, yeah, QB1. That's my quarterback. Okay.

Rise up, baby. Oh, sure, sure. Matt Ryan, they're right there. There he is. Look at him. So February of 2023, waste management is taking place. I went from Pebble to waste management for a couple of days. The Super Bowl was in town.

Matt Ryan is represented by Excel. And we are represented by Excel. We ended up at dinner together and I had heard he's a big golfer, big golfer. I did not know. he was a massive NLU follower, like very detailed. I like the tour of soft stuff. I like watching those guys go on trips. Australia is pretty good, man, and I've never been.

And it just looks, it looks like you've got to go. We start, you know, shooting the shit, talking at dinner that night. I had a few too many beverages. And he just kind of pulls me aside. He's like, hey, why are you trying to hit a fade, huh? You're a drawler. You're a drawler of the golf ball. And I was like, wait, Matt Ryan knows details about my golf.

game like what what is this world first of all and we exchanged numbers and the next day he was like dying to get out and play some golf and he went up and met me at talking stick there in phoenix and we played my favorite style of golf which is chasing sunlight and played as many holes as you can until it gets dark it'll work aim at the ditch swing hard it's right it was like we knew each other for a long time even though that was our first time ever hanging out and we've stayed somewhat close you know stay in contact from time to time and when my wife and I found out we were pregnant with twins. I'm just scrolling my phone.

I mean, we are freaking out. And I'm scrolling my phone trying to run into people that I know have had twins. And he is like one of three people that I could contact. Solly texts me like the most cryptic text of all time. He was like, hey man,

got something important to talk to you about. I only know like two people who have gone through this. So I'm like, dude, what is going on? I haven't gone through that many traumatic experiences in my life. Like, what is up? He called me back coming from some tournament and lied to me about that everything was going to be okay about having twins.

He's one of like three people in my phone I know that has twins. I called all three of those people and I'm like, you've got to help me, man. You got to tell me it's not going to be as crazy as I think. I think all three of them lied to him. All three successfully lied to me and said it was going to be okay. It was great. It honestly was really, really good advice. And, you know, he and a couple others have been really good sounding boards for the trying times that we've gone through.

So that's kind of how our friendship started. So when I found out we were going to Atlanta, DJ Pye refused to take the bag for a second time. He was smart. He knew what a miracle that first one was and how unlikely it was to be a repeat. I got nothing left to prove. I don't know about you,

but I got nothing left to prove on the golf course, man. I said that after that one and I got tempted. I got drawn in by the allure of competitive golf. But I thought, all right, who do I know in Atlanta? And again, I was like, all right, he's like, he's always hit, he's always said, if you're ever coming to Atlanta, let's go, we'll go play Eastlake, we'll go play Peach Tree, we'll go play wherever.

And I never end up making it to Atlanta, but I was like, hey, I'm coming to Atlanta for the Creator Classic. Would you want a caddy? And it was an immediate yes. As a four-time pro bowler and former MVP, how is today a new pinnacle in your career? It is the pinnacle. That's exactly what it is.

No, it's cool. So I texted me a couple of weeks ago asking me if I would do it. Not expecting a yes, by the way. No, of course I do it. So it's going to be a ton of fun. I've only caddied a handful of times. I feel like my track record for caddying is pretty good. One time, I caddied for Stewart Sink in the Part 3 contest at the Masters.

So I only show up for the big events. You know, in my head, I was like, surely you're more busy, but he's a retired NFL quarterback. He works on Sundays for CBS, but he was not busy on a Wednesday. And my guy was into it, man. He was so into it. Hey, if we do come in for reads, do you read? like drip pace hit a couple coming down the slope yeah all right you guys kind of into the slope you know so if you want to play something low yeah and drive it in it's you can do that yeah solid it was really

really really impressive he's honestly one of the most impressive people i've ever met he's just super down to earth like understands like his role in the city and how you know popular he is in the city and we couldn't go a single hole without somebody shouting something at him or somebody that knew him and wanted to say hello. Now right here, stop. Oh, hey! What are you doing here? Caddying today?

Oh, no, you're not. You're doing all right? I'm good. You're keeping the rip wrap out? But man, he treated this like a very, very, very serious event, and we had so much fun together. I wish I could have brought more to the table for him. If you can come up with something optimistic for that one, I'm all ears. There's plenty of room over there.

What are his bona fides as a golfer and a caddy? Is he, I mean, is he a stick? a stick? Is he, how well does he know East Lake? What's his, you know, his CV coming in? I do wonder if Matt's ever caddied before. I'm going to probably say no. When you're like the stud quarterback your whole life, probably not

carrying a lot of bags. Matt, so I actually remember, I think I tweeted something about this a long time ago. He played in some event and it was like, you know, it said Matt Ryan was a plus handicap and I was like, all right, I'm not saying like, you know, he's not a plus handicap, but I also don't believe it. Also,

he's not a plus handicap. Some kind of snipey joke like that. Then I played with him a couple of years ago. My guy is a plus handicap. He is an excellent, excellent golfer. It can absolutely send it. You can tell he's just remarkably coordinated. It has a really, really tidy game.

He plays in a bunch of celebrity-related stuff and things like that. And he's also a member at Eastlake. He doesn't play there often, but he knows the ends and outs of the golf course. And I had never set foot on this golf course prior to this day. This is the first time my first time ever touching the grass. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

We're winging it. I told you. But as I said, this can work to my benefit of like, dude, I don't know where the trouble is at. Exactly. No scar tissue. It's huge. And I won't bring up any scar tissue. I got tons.

I got tons of scar tissue. I, you know, watched some videos online, but I did not know how to play the holes. Didn't know the run out to the bunkers. Didn't know where to miss, where not to miss. So I was leaning on on him heavy for all that stuff. On a scale from show up and shut up to full-on sports psychologist, what are you looking for today, I of your guy? I'm looking for psychological stuff. from a guy who's played in front of a lot of people.

Granted a different sport, but it's been the most pressure-packed situations possible. He's going to know what mental state I probably need to be in. And if I catch myself veering off, I have a feeling he's going to pull me right back in. He's going to help me galvanize the Atlanta fans, I think, to start rooting for me as well. And he's going to take a little tension off me.

Like, most people are going to be looking at like, how do you get this guy, get Matt Ryan and Cattie for him? That's the triumvir that I'm looking for out of this. And also, he's like a plus four stick. he's got mad game I'm not hitting any of the shots he knows the golf course really well so I think we'll I think we'll be

sympathetic up what's it like walking around Eastlake with him I mean people like he's got to be I don't know in the sports world like one of the more famous people in the city I have to imagine the most famous person in the city like it's got to be up there right you really couldn't find a better guy that's all we could drum up

are you guys I am for shawley spent 14 years he took him to a Super Bowl like he was an MVP I mean, it was mostly shock. Again, kind of the same shock I had when he said yes, but most people are like, what's he doing catting for this guy? This guy's like eight over bar. That guy looks just like Matt Ryan.

God, that guy looks just like Matt Ryan. Maddie Ice. Thanks, everybody. Legend. Thank you. Not right now, but. All right, so coming into the Creator Classic, you know, I was with you last time at Sawgrass.

I know you didn't have a ton of preparation. What was your preparation like this time? surely you're finding all kinds of time to play you're grinding you're you've got a whole practice plan going i i have to imagine it is tuesday august 12th in eight days i'm going to be playing golf on television starting to feel like that uh oh shit here we go again meme after swearing off competitive golf embarrassed myself again at another recent tournament i didn't even tell anyone about it it was so bad i guess we're going to try it again uh and i don't really have any sense of a golf game at the moment all right developing situation we've hit six cold shanks i'm worried about a

wear pattern on the hosel honestly at this point we're going back to the car for a towel my hands are dripping sweat so this should be very interesting uh i'm of the understanding that i hit lightning in a bottle at the last creator classic i cannot expect that luck to replicate i mean dege i was a plus handicap to start the year i think and i am been soft capped at 1.9 like i'm above a two in reality right now like i don't i've broken par twice all year long it's been a challenge all right so who was uh who was out there with you capturing all this all this audio and everything our guy charles van kirk uh has been working on a lot of these kind of immersive podcast with us and uh you know he was awesome out there but every now and then i just make eye

contact with him and he just look at me with like a little bit of sympathy like i'm sorry dude like i know it's going great but it's going bad enough that it might be good content uh so that was a good through line for all of it i was like it is it's gonna be fun to roast you on all this so take me through you know what what does a day look like at one of these events what i mean from you're waking up at the hotel and then what what happens Paparazzi's here. Hello. How we doing?

It's weird inviting somebody with all this gear you've got. It's coming in hot. If you're gonna come in, come in heavy, you're not at all. Next time you come in, you come heavy or not at all. This guy's ready to roll. Look at this guy. Yeah, so how you feeling? How'd you sleep?

Uh, fine. You know, not great, great, but, you know, about within the models models what I'd expect for an anxious, anxious day I'm going to have. Actually, let's check it out. Let's check the whoop. I'm a little nervous to check it on a day where I actually care what my recovery is, but 63% recovery is not exactly what we're looking for. I'm guessing the heart rate was up a little bit.

It was up a little bit last night. That's okay. That's okay. All those mocktails at dinner. I know. There's a little sugary moktail. I thought I was being smart, not having the alcohol, but I think I might have gotten something worse.

That moktail was like taking the, iron off the tea and pulling it into the trees. Exactly right. So first of all, where are we? What time is it? What's happening here? It is 8.32 a.m. We're in the Lowe's Atlanta Hotel. We're about three and a half hours from taking the shuttle over to the golf course. I got some meetings this morning, some work to catch up on. And anything to just kind of keep my mind off of what's going to go down today. I wanted desperately to get some practice in last night, called a couple clubs got permission but the weather did not cooperate and did not get any swings in so we're winging it again just like we did it the last one before sawgrass last time pgaatour dot com was quoted as saying

about you some players are just two candid in interviews for their own good so my question is are you the rory of the creators uh i was really really i wasn't downplaying the status of my game it was three and a half months after our twins were bored, like there was no golf being played. And the golf that was played was played so horrifically on camera. Like, it's published on YouTube. It was really bad. I had reasons to be very concerned about my game. I recognize that almost before every video and every swing, like, I'm making excuses before I even get there. But like, you know, whenever you're throwing yourself into these competitive situations, it almost feels like you should give an excuse as to why, you know, why you're doing this if your game is not in really good, good

spot. This was a lot lighter lift of a day. We took a shuttle around noon over to the golf course at hospitality set up for us, lunch, all that stuff, and kind of, you know, do a couple trick shots, hit a put on 18, try to hit a GoPro with a stinger, you know, go do a rules briefing and all that stuff. But honestly, I felt a little rushed. Like at TPC Sawgrass, we got like three hours to warm up. And how good did I hit it on the range on that day? Oh my gosh, I was absolutely flushing it. And this one was just a little bit more rushed. And it was also like really hot in the middle of the day. So you're not like looking to hit a ton of balls.

What's gonna be the post round drink of choice? I mean, it depends how heavy this bag is. It might be a liquid I be in water. Well, I got range. I got to the range. I thought I was gonna be gassed up. And like, man, just started hitting balls. And we, it was not going great.

Just really wasn't going great on the range. And I knew it. Matt knew it, but we weren't allowed to say that out loud. And I swear he tried everything he possibly could to get me, you know, back on the right track. Let's try A-Diron here. Like, oh, that looks great, Saul, that looks great.

He even gave me a little, a little pump-up speech about a bad warm-up he had once before an NFL game that I don't think it was a true story at all, but my guy was trying. One of the best games I ever played in the NFL was against Carolina Panthers.

And Julio was, he went off for, like, 300 yards. I threw for, like, over 500. I had the worst warm-up of my life. Full panic mode in the locker room beforehand, I'm like, oh, this is not good. And I go out there and just stripe it. Did he tell you it wasn't true? Later on, he told me, he's like, yeah, I might have been exaggerating that one a little bit.

But in the moment, I was like, oh, good, I needed to hear that. I also didn't know QB's had bad warm-ups. I didn't know that was a thing. Look, it's the creator classic. It's not the Super Bowl. I'm aware of that. But are guys, like, one of the truly, like, one of the best competitors in the history of humanity? I got to imagine he's got some pointers on how to go into a competitive environment.

And that was honestly a through line that I thought would be great and might potentially help me, right? I want to talk to him about how he handled pressure situations and how he approached it all. And I listened, I listened to what he said. I didn't necessarily, I wasn't able to replicate that, you know, but yeah. Also one of the best athletes of the history of humanity. That was a lot more helpful. That's a good combo. I did not have that part going for me, but I mean, just, again, not his comfort zone necessarily,

but understanding what's needed to be a caddy, he knew everything to do, say, like, was just Johnny on the spot on like, you know, how many balls did I want to chip? What time? He kept updating me in what time it was. 3.10. 250. So we got plenty of time. Okay.

I thought you wanted me to hit this 250. I was like, okay. I want you to hit it just like. those last two. Those are perfect. Better long irons than short. That's perfect. We're attacking attacking 14 with that four iron, five iron. Another thing that I thought was going to help was having him on the bag, if things started poorly, was like extra motivating. Like, I can't quit on this guy. Like, he's taking time out of his day. Like, we're going to go find it. We're going to go find a birdie. And I swear I kept that attitude. I kept trying to find that, but I think my mind also

got there in a blender there. Did you guys talk ball? while you're out there? My wife's boss is a Virginia Tech pokey. And he, as soon as I brought up, you were chatting for me, he, like, actively grimaced about the Thursday night. The Thursday night came. Can I take a sack here? Ryan will fire.

Oh, my goodness. Oh. He's open for the touchdown. His calendar. And Lane Stadium goes silent with the 11 seconds to play. Two touchdowns in the last few minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell him I'm sorry for that.

But they got us when it count it. We played him like a month later in the ACC championship and they beat us. He'll get it. Or he got it. He was not happy about that little bit. Does your encyclopedic memory transfer to golf course knowledge as well? No. I seem to forget everything on the golf course.

But I actually, I'll be good for him today. I actually know this place pretty well. We talked a little ball. I found he's a ball-knowers listener or has listened to it. and uh i hate listener of the ball knowers he had some comments about that it sounds like a ball knowers yeah i said you know we need to prove that we actually don't know ball yeah do you listen to the ball noers yeah i'm like these fucking idiots are you're listening are they accurate or not some takes are some you're like tron gets going on kyle i'm like

oh my god this fucking yes this guy yes yes He's chuckling in my car. You know, again, he's entrenched to the NL universe. But, you know, I think at some, at one point, he started bringing up football to me, like, during the round because he could tell the golf stuff wasn't going so great. But asked me about the Jags or why I was a Jags fan and, you know, what they were going to do with Travis Hunter.

But at that point, I could see what he was doing. And I was like, I appreciate it, but I don't like it right now, my friend. Sure. So I was there at Sawgrass. It was electric with the fans, a lot of people, a lot of energy. what was how did it compare out at Atlanta and also like who were people rooting for who had the juice out there really looking for uh luke one okay I really like Garrett Clark and I like Gabby golf girl Michael Morris uh Garrett Garrett Clark see some of those guys I watch a lot of the girl golf games and stuff

like that too uh I didn't notice Gabby I'm a big fan of hers it didn't quite have the same juice didn't quite have the same like you know I didn't get up to that first tee at this one and freak out At Sawgrass, I freaked out. I mean, there was people eight, 10 rows deep. By next year, it'll be 30 rows deep when I tell that story. But who are you playing with? So we're playing with Roger Steele, who I also played at the first creator classic.

I nipped him by one. He has not taken that very well and very kindly. Solly squeaked by. I let him squeak by because it was a hometown story for him. Oh, sure, sure, sure, sure. It was his first creator classic. I wanted him to know we're playing in the playoff felt like. So it was really just me being considerate.

Sure, sure, sure, sure. Then I played with the short game king, Daniel. He won the qualifier to get in the event, and he won our threesome as well. He was quite a tidy player. How would you describe Roger to someone who's never met him? He's very, like, raw, very authentically himself, because he's got a big personality.

He kind of just speaks, and I feel like that's kind of his platform. It's just to kind of speak and feel like he doesn't have any type of, like, kind of, yeah, filters. I bring, I bring a wild card to most things that I do. like, what is he going to say? What is he going to do? I hate that about myself, but I have acknowledged that that's a part of my offering. Hate me or love me? You watched. That's what it is. Roger, I hate, I keep saying this, and the guy does not need his ego fluffed, and he's heard me say this enough. But I just

honestly think he's a star. Like, you could just put that guy in any possible situation, and he's going to kill it, whether it be a speaking function, or, you know, if he was, teaching a bunch of juniors on the range, if he was talking about issues in golf, if he was just talking about the actual golf, if you put him on a stage to compete, he can just do anything. He is like the hype coordinator for the TGL matches, and I think he should have an even bigger role in an environment like that, because he can talk with anyone, carry a conversation with anyone,

and anybody that's ever met him gets along so well with them. And my guy hits the ball so unbelievably far. Now, Roger, that T shot, 3.43. Unfortunately, it took only three shots, and I think he is still short of Roger's drive. He flew it into a bunker on 16 that was 340 to reach up the hill. Again, you can't really fathom how far he hits it until you see it in person. I mean, if he was on the PGA tour, he would be the longest hitter on the PGA tour. He would have to change his approach of doing it.

He needs to find a few more fairways, but my goodness, does my guy crush the golf ball? all right weird question here but what's the what's the vibe with the other creators you know i was pretty locked into my process last time is everybody chopping it up is there co-labs going on what's the uh what's the what's the what's the situation everybody talking to each other everybody doing their own thing are they talking to do they have teams are they talking to their teams out there what's what's kind of the vibe well a lot of these guys know each other a lot better than i really know any of them except for roger i would say i mean there's a lot of good good guys there um some former good, good guys there as well.

So I feel like a little bit of an outsider in that group. It's just kind of, you know, I'm much more of a podcaster than I am a creator or a YouTuber is how I would define it. So I feel a little bit like a fish out of water in there, but everybody you talk to is super nice. I mean, I talk to Sean Walsh and Brad Dahlke a lot and Garrett Clark as well. So no good good. It's kind of the boy band of golf feature, right?

Right. It's hard to see anyone else be in the JT, the Justin Timberlake of that boy been other day. It's got to be the Harry Styles, right? I agree with that. The word he guys are looking for is frontman energy. It's got frontman energy. Garrett, can I ask you if there's a shot that you're most excited to hit? Oh, yeah.

For sure. Okay, hold 12 just because I want to keep one in play this year. Because I made a 9 last year. A 9? It ruined my whole round. It's like, other than that I would have shot 1 over par or something. or something. But that's what I'm looking forward to. I'm going to hit it down whole number 10. I'm trying to hit it at the green at whole 10. It's the first time I've learned that there's

OB on this course. So I I'm trying to go into this with no scar tissue and I think we failed. Way to make me feel good about myself. No, it was tough. Last year was a tough one out. They're familiar with NLU, even if like we've never worked together with them on anything in particular. And great guys, really nice guys. And same with talking to Luke Kwan and all that. We get along great. You know, It is a little bit uncomfortable for me because I'm not as good at golf and don't have nearly the following that a lot of these people have on their YouTube platforms

and all that. So definitely feel like I've got something to prove. And yeah, I've walked away, feeling like I have even more to prove, baby. We just kick the can down the road on that one a little bit. I'll come back to you guys on this one. Solly, we are also brought you today by our friends at Roebuck.

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So you already had Matt with you for motivation on the range. Sounds like you got some more motivation from our dear colleagues as well. Strab boys, do I have you? You got to talk loud about earlier. Hey, Randy, how are you? I'm great, Neil. Nice to be on this side of the equation. Oh, my God. I'm doing fantastic, man. Listen, after all the times you've had to call me, Neil, and you know, you get to that 13th hole and strapped,

felt like it was only right for me to reverse the fortune here. And you were my hype man at the last one. You were motivating to me in the last one. You were the only one that believed in me. Do you believe in me today? Yeah, of course. Listen, I'm an optimistic guy. I think you've been, you know, pre-down on your game again, just right where we want you. We don't want you saying you found it. That's usually a dead giveaway that we're in for a letdown.

But no, I know this. We're rooting for you, but man, if you play bad, I'm going to forward on you on this. Oh, God, that's, I'm going to fart on myself, so I'll be right there with you. So I appreciate that, though, you know. All right. Enjoy, enjoy the moment. Enjoy the walk. Take it all in.

And, yeah, whatever's going to happen is going to happen. I love you guys. I love you both equally. Thank you guys very much for the advice. All right. Go get out. Crack on. All right, so we're walking to the first team.

First of all, we're playing the back nine, or the back eight, I guess. We're playing eight holes. So we're walking to number 10 at Eastlake. What's the mindset? What are you thinking? What club are you going with? Just talk me through the 10th hole. Tenth hole's a benign one.

You know, you're kind of driving towards the bottom of this hill. The only thing you can't do is go left. There looks like there's plenty of room right, but it's also summer Bermuda. Like, it's thick Bermuda, and the fairways don't look wide. So it's not like a white knuckle T-shot, but I know I got to hit a really straight one here. Jacksonville Beach, Florida, no land-ups. Let's go, baby. I honestly didn't have first T-jitters.

It's a lot less intimidating T-shot. It's a less intimidating golf course. Like, it's just more open, and you can find. your ball and you're not, you know, completely screwed when you hit it offline was so I thought. And I wasn't hitting it left at all on the range. And I got up there on 10T and I just pulled dead snipe on dead left. Oh, man, it stinks when you got EL4 and there's real actual people outside the ropes. That's just really, really, really not a good feeling because I know.

that part's getting clipped. Not just fans, Scotty Sheffler over there as well. You could have taken him out. Solly and Roger hit it left over there at 18. Scotty Sheffler was finishing a practice round, walking up 18. A little too close to Scotty for comfort, I think, for the door. Yeah, that might have been the last creator, classic moment. If they put a hole through Scotty's name.

Yeah, I was not in danger of hitting Scotty. Roger was about 120 yards ahead of me, just kind of hitting a little pitch onto the green. And I had to punch out sideways back to the middle of the fairway. And that's where Matt Ryan paid off from the actual jump. I mean, it was like he was at the line of scrimmage, calling a blocking Audible. We're going to need you guys to move here. Back this way.

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Do you have any all-time catty heroes? All-time catty heroes? What energy are you channeling today? Steve Williams, man. Just like, fuck. can win in this stage. You got to undo a couple buttons if you want that. We need some more chest hair.

I mean, I feel like he was just the alpha out there. I had hit a pretty heroic punch out to get back to the middle of the fairway. Good shot, solid. We're in one fairway, good shot. I know, had to do it. Hit the middle of the green, make bogey, and we're totally fine. We're totally fine. Again, it just also didn't work out that way.

We've got golf already on the golf course, and we will start with our opening grouping today, Aaron, some struggles out of the gate. Solly from no laying up, this at the 10th for bogey to start his day. That one misses left. And just like at Sawgrass, Chris Solomon with a double bogey out of the gate. That's the bad news, of course, Solly then made pars all the way through to get into that playoff at Sawgrass. 11th hole. What's going on? 225, downhill, downwind.

I went for 5 iron, which is my, when we're at 72 degrees, my 205 club at this heat level, that's probably easily carrying 210, add in a little downhill, downwind. That just felt like the right club, which is hot and flying, like, four C's. What's that? 2105, comfortably at sea level. I guess covers 215 easily. I agree. Yeah.

We're saying half a clock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. man i hope this doesn't come off as an excuse like i stink like put that aside but like i'm sweating when my hands are sweating i'm struggling to keep him dry i'm a little like honestly a little dizzy just a little bit like phased from being out in the sun at this like i just don't feel like comfortable in this moment i feel jittery it's not nerves but i just feel uncomfortable i feel exposed for not having a golf game and i got to stand up and hit these shots and it's like i don't know if I'm going to pier this. I don't know if I'm going to thin it. I don't know if it's going to go dead

right or dead left. And I kind of just pull hook it. And it comes up way short also. And it's just a shot I would never hit. Like if I pull hook one, it goes long. And I end up short behind this bunker, tight lie, chipping on a downslope to get to this pin. I mean, we're playing backtees. Like this is like premium professional golf that we're playing. And you're, you're listening to these words, you're not hearing the description of somebody that's playing premium professional golf right now. So Like, I hate to say it on my second shot, I'm, like, making sure I don't thin or chunk it. Like, that's more of my thought than I am trying to get this up and down. I hate to say that, but I just have to be honest.

Spin. Check. Nah. A little firm under there. I think there's something very relatable there, because that is how I would be thinking as well, despite every, you know, effort to not do so. I just, to your point, I don't think the 30 guys playing the Tour Championship probably have thought that way in a while. you know and it's probably not it's a good indicator of the difference here i think a huge difference

also if i may say the golf course got dumped on that night and they played lift clean in place the whole rest of the way and they played a soft golf course this place was crispy and again i stink this is not an excuse yeah i feel like you got to live clean in place on the t at 11 i don't know if that was totally your issue no no no it was not but like on this pitch shot and like chipping on to greens that are soft was a luxury we were not afforded uh again i stink like we're gonna put that part to the side but uh kind of calls you know calls fleetwood's whole thing it did it did question he didn't he didn't have to the greater classic all right you get to the 12th what do you thinking on this 12th tee so we get to 12 i'm three over par through two i know i got

to get one back to get back on that two over par that i've lived at to have to get it and look nothing's gone the way i would have hoped so far haven't hit a good shot and i got garry clark in my you know in my mind now he's i didn't know there was obi right until he points out that there's OB right on a couple of these holes and don't really know where it's going. So I'm going to aim left. It's a short par forward's $3.90. I'm going to aim left and I'm going to hit a slap, bunt cut driver. All right. That's my best chance of hitting this trade. Two strike approach. Yeah, totally. Choke up, put it in place, Santiago Espinano style. And I hit this T shot, according to TORCAST. I hit it 207 yards.

dead left. Oh, God. God damn. So, like, I pulled it left to where I wanted to start it, and it was a chloroform ball going left. And it is going, like, thankfully, the group behind us was the women in their up a box. Otherwise, it would have nailed the people

actually on the 11th T. And no one, when there's ever been ropes up at this tournament, has ever hit a ball in this direction. so you're in the pro em or whatever and you're teeing it way like nobody from the back t's would ever ever ever ever hit it in this spot and i got to make and it might have just got nipped here that is the most embarrassing walk i've had to make in golf which is like right by the women and their caddies standing there page was like behind the tea as well and i almost hit her there were cameramen over there and i got to go up to the rope line that's right of 11 t again left from where i'm coming from

in front of all these dudes they're like, how is there a ball here? Like, what is going on? Is that Matt Ryan? What old is this guy? What great is this guy in? That was happening so fast. I was trying to hit a little punch cut, smothered it.

I was like, do we look tired? Smothered it. And it was going out you guys so fast. I was freaking out. Sabrina, though, you did almost kill. It's okay. I was like so embarrassed so quickly. So, Sabrina, were you afraid for your life

while walking off 11T today? Oh, yes. I was scared, actually, for sure. I have a fear of getting hit by a ball. I always dunk behind someone. Kailen was my person. Yeah, she ducked behind me. I would have taken the bullet for that one.

I suppose that's a catty's job. Yeah, right? Gotta protect my player at all costs. And I could have taken TIO and I just didn't have the heart of like, I'm three over already. I can't call over Ken Tackett. Just to get me out of the way.

Get me out of here, please. Nobody look at me, please. I'm just playing back to the fairway. God, that's so good. really good seven iron from like 190 and it stayed up on the front right part of the green for a long long long time that was hyped uh and was you know he's hyped up the crowd but the ball started rolling away before he before he even noticed good shot sally really good hell of a shot sit sit let's stay that's perfect that's a hell of a shot dude thanks well done no it didn't

stay good that was a good ass shot boys give him a round of applause huh come on It's still rolling. It's still rolling. Did it roll off? Yeah. That's how it still, man. That was such a good shot. We got to 13, and he's like, at that left bunker, you're totally fine.

We're not going to run out of that bunker. And I hit a stripe right towards that bunker. And he's like, oh, great ball. And I was like, that reached the bunker? He's like, no, it didn't. Get on the ground. Good ball, Sally. Just in front.

No, I think it's short. Short? Okay. We got off there. It was in the bunker, unfortunately, but, you know. Could have changed the whole day. Yeah, it could have. Well, that was if it hit the hill, it hit the hill situation.

Really tough shot here for Solie. He's in the bunker, has a big lip to deal with. 145 up five. Okay. That's a good nine iron, then I was saying. Short, better than the long of this anyway. You got plenty of space long. The putts a little faster come back, but I like that for you.

Come. 55? Yep. And not hitting it so well right now. Yeah. Defensive lineman knocked that one down. Just caught the top of that thing. Yeah, we got to just get out. No way. I wouldn't even considering that.

Maybe the worst thing in golf is the airway bunker shot under lip. Because then you have the same shot, but tougher. Yeah. How are you staying locked in? Anything motivating you out there? I know at a certain point, look, I know a lot's been made about my rivalry with Gabby Golf Girl, which I refuse to,

listen, I just refuse to acknowledge that. Totally media-driven. It's a media narrative that does not exist in my mind. But I'm looking at the leaderboard. I would like to beat her if I could, just because I know I'm going to hear some comments in our Slack when I get done of not. And I got a side bet with Roger going.

I clipped them in the first one, and the bet was the other person got to dictate an embarrassing social post to be made on the other's behalf. And I never made him pay up on that, so I'm still thinking about that. But it's also something I don't want to do where I got to post something to the NLU socials, like from me that's going to be very embarrassing if I don't beat him. And I know I'm looking up at him all day long. I'm still plotting on the creative, though. I want to do something that advances my career because he has such a loyal following and fan base. I want, you know, so I want to capitalize a crisis go to waste. also want to embarrass him.

So it's like a, it's the juxtaposition. At the time, though, it was that Michael Irvin post. I was going to make, I was going to make Salih put blit on his chest. So Michael Irvin post that nobody else saw. It's like, the goal here would be like, people end on the joke. He was going to make me do this Michael Irvin glitter post. What was it? What was he said?

Hey, Michael Urban was in Brazil, coked out of his mind. I don't know if we could say that far. He's like, welcome to Brazil. And nobody was going to know what that was about. We would have driven that into virality, which I really wanted. I wanted Georgetown. And he wants you doing this Michael Irvin thing? Yeah, that was a really motivating thing before TPC Sawgrass

because no one had seen this Michael Irvin glittered up clip. Cardi Ball, that in Rio. He wanted me to do this. And I was like, okay, well, I'm just not going to lose because I cannot post that on social media, man. I got kids that are going to grow up and see this. I cannot do this to myself. Okay, 14, cool hole, down the hill, down back. towards the lake, just one of my favorites out of these, like 14 is, was a par five,

changed to a par four that's 530 yards, and that's the T we played it at. It's just wildly difficult. And you can't see any fairway, right? So again, you know, Matt gets up and gives me a really specific line. There's a tree there. You need to be five yards right of this tree. And I hit this T shot, and it is five yards right of this tree. Like, it is the best I've hit one.

It's a little bottom of the face. I didn't crush it. but it's straight man and it's going to be in the fair way of course right and i got a such a bronx cheer that was maybe the most embarrassing part of the day was how hard everybody celebrated that t-shot getting elevated oh yeah beauty sallie there we go we go let's go let's go let's go i don't deserve that reaction that just making it worse that's making it worse thank you thank you thank you That's perfect, man, does. Perfect.

I try not to, but. We get up there, and Matt was like, oh, yeah, I forgot they bring the rough in, actually, for this tournament. Normal play, this would be fine. Oh, man. And so I've got 225. He's going the other way. And they're in the right intermediate. It was a totally fine lie, but ball above my feet, just an awkward shot.

And they've done such a good job with that redo. But if you miss, you know, five feet right of this green, you are in total. If you miss left, though, it's going to run away from you. So again, I don't know where this five iron's going, and my body ain't moving right, and it's going left. It goes way, way, way left. And it ends up in the rough pitching over a bunker up a hill. But I had a good lie. I had a really good lie.

That was like a ball finally bouncing my way. Love it. Love it. Love it. Love it. Love it. Oh. Could have used that one.

Hell, yeah. Could have used that one. Great shot, buddy. Thank you. And I hit just a money pitch. Got my weight on the left side. Open up the face of a 58. It came out absolutely perfect.

I even gave it a little half step towards the hole and raised the 58 degree in the air because I thought it was going in. Lipped out, settled maybe two feet from the hole. And I had my first par. Good job, Sali. Good four. We're on the board.

Let's go. That's a birdie, man. What's that? That's a birdie. It's par four now, isn't it? I think it's part four I know it felt like a birdie to me

you know what we're gonna call that a bird that's a birdie so 15 part three you probably remember from the tour championship not quite an island green but not far off right just a very very doer die demanding shot it's kind of all those T-boxes up the left the left rail it's almost like 17 at sawgrass right

and then there's the one way back kind of on an angle all carry over the water it kind of almost seemed like maybe you guys were going to have to play there It seemed like you guys had some, I know you were stressing about it the night before. I just saw the T-she and I know that we're playing the new T's from on hole 15. All the way back? Yeah, 2-15.

Because we played it in the qualifier at like 140. It was 140. It was like the normal T-boxes. So a 2-15-yard shot to an Island Green is going to be fun. We got an email that said we were playing that hole at 2-15 and there's only one T-box at 2-15. So I was stressing about it. But I also wasn't because I honestly thought about I might just lay up to the drop area or to a different T-box because I don't think I'm hitting that green.

And if I was a couple under par, I probably would have done that. Listen, I was like a jillion over par when I got there, so I probably would have sent it anyways. But we played the back of the leftees, which was 167 yards. I want to say one thing real quick. I know there was maybe a rumor that got out

that maybe we were playing 15 from the back team across the pond. We're not going to do that. It's up here. Everybody makes some noise today. Everybody makes some noise. a little downhill and you know i thought it was an easy nine iron for me uh you know that's my 160 club but i got enough with the heat and the a little bit downhill little down wind got an easy

boost on this and i don't know why but i felt like i needed to hit it hard and i didn't i should have just played towards the front of that green and i didn't hit as bad of a shot as it probably looked but it was a smidge left of my target and going left and it's just that little pull you hit across your line that has no shot Like, it's just not stopping. And I think if I could have just steered that a little bit farther right, it would have been totally fine. But while it's in the air, I know it's wet.

And the only thing I don't know is what color that line is. And I got bad news. Uh-oh. Hang on. Catch a piece. Oh, no bad to worse. He's got the lefts. Got the lefts real bad.

Is it red or yellow? Now they have it steak. Okay, so the first couple holes don't go so great. You know, the next couple holes don't go so great. I'm trying my hardest franchise. I'm trying. I promise I'm trying. Now I'm like honestly wondering, I know we're not playing nine holes,

but like are we gonna break 50? Is this like a bogey golf watch here? Like this, you're starting to imagine how bad it could actually be. We know we're out of it already. Now I'm worried about Roger's going to cook up here. God, that might need to be in the lexicon for now. Something starts really moving quick for somebody. Welcome to Brazil.

Welcome to Brazil. Anything to report from 16. Shortish par four up the hill, right? Shortest par four. I'm doing a better job of keeping the ball off the left side of the course, but I block it, block this one to the right. My ball actually ends up embedded in a mound next to one of the bunkers, which was a good break.

And I got to drop it over in some grass that almost laid down. It was different than Bermuda grass laying down right next to the bunker. Had a decent line. And I'm 193 up the hill. And it looks like a jumper to me. I kind of was like, I think it might be eight. My guy that knows the course talked me into seven. I ended up hitting that shot, 200 and like 23 yards, well long of the hole.

75 covers the bunker on the left, 93 to the pin. Cut. Should jump a little bit. I think that's enough? It's seven. I think it's one more. Okay. You?

Yeah, I can open the face a little bit on this. You feel like a seven gets through that? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Sit. Uh-oh. Yeah. All right, a little through.

jumped a little. Maybe it wasn't eight. You can call you all. No, it's a big ass up the hill, though. Great swing. Listening back to it, I also agreed. You know, he said it's seven. I'm like, you're probably right.

So I can't blame Matt completely on that one. I don't know if I would have pulled eight. I agreed with it. I'm responsible for it. I would never place the blame there. Of course. Did you have to ding him on the comment card for that one afterwards? No, he owned it.

That's all you got to ask is that Tracati owns it when he makes a mistake. And what's up me, pro. That what's up me? Dej, I've been doing a lot of golf workouts. Of course, shout to our friends at the stack. But a goal of mine, and actually pretty easy to realize here, is not get into an arms race with Roger Steele

because the guy hits it, even at my fastest, hits it so much farther than I do. But I think the next step for Raj, we've got to find him like 185 mile an hour cruising shot off the tee. And this was my goal coming into this. was, all right, you've done this speed training. You have committed to the stack.

Let's find that fairway finder off the T at a solid speed. Listen, if I go back and look at the numbers, my speed is there, even without trying to hit the ball hard in this tournament. Granted, my accuracy was not very good for, I've not been training the golf swing, but the speed and the distance was there. Like, running into a bunker at 2.95 When I'm not trying to hit the ball hard is a lifestyle I'm not used to.

I owe that entirely to our friends at the stack. You can go to the stack system.com slash NLU, code no laying up, get you 10% off their products. It's a training program you can do in your backyard. When I am, I'm extremely stressed for time to get golf workouts in or range sessions in. I go into my backyard. I stretch for 15 minutes. I swing the weighted club for 15 to 20 minutes.

It tells you exactly what to swing, when to swing it, gameifies it for you, it tracks your progress. I can see my actual speed going up as time goes along. It helps me in so many different aspects of my game. I know the score didn't go great. That's the, you know, we're not doing it. direct translation here, but I'm telling you if I was able to play and practice some golf on top of this, I think it would come together rather quickly. And I still greatly enjoy doing the workouts.

I feel great after doing it, do them in the mornings. And I strongly encourage TC also sent over the party doctor, said he's the standard case for it. He said he's hitting at 30 yards farther and has turned into a completely different golfer. So the stack system.com slash NLU code no laying up for 10% off. Now endorsed by the party doctor. What more do you need? What more can we say? All right, the home hole in this instance. 17, the last one. What are we trying to prove here? Deeds, we're trying to hit a fairway or a green at this point,

which we have done neither of. And she, first of all, you go so far back to get to the back of 18. I don't know if you've ever been there or seen that. Like, you cross over 14. Like, it is comical. Like, instead of rolling off 16 green, like you walk back like 100 yards to get to the new T on 17. Oh, you guys are one foot off the back of the box.

Seriously. I'm here to a test. This shit ain't easy, man. I mean, 258 to reach the fairway. Hope I hit a good one. Somebody might walk off that green and play the wrong box. You know, I hit a decent T-shot,

but it's moving a little left. I think Roger Early called me. Somebody early called me. Come on. Come on. Cover. Which is just, that's the last thing you want to hear when you haven't hit a fairway all day.

Like, good ball. And it just overdraws into the left bunker. I had 131. Oh, I love it. I love it. Hell yeah. Hey. G.I.O.

I told you. I'm hitting the green. Let's go. I'm coming for you, Roger. Hit a really crisp pitching wedge. Kind of still a blind shot from me, but it's going right at the flag. I knew it was good. And I got my first real cheer of the day.

Got up there. It was about eight feet behind the hole. And I got a chance. I got a hit a green. Green in regulation. Got one and had a chance to end this. and this thing in style and get back to bogey golf i'm standing over the put i'm not inventing anything straight i mean it's fast obviously but no grain it shouldn't move

i think if anything it's going to wiggle a little left okay just a little bit that's all speed that's good uh you know i'm i'm ready for this to be over this long national nightmare to be over and it got buggy out there like i got bugs that are buzzing all around but i'm also like dude you cannot back off a putt right now. You are, look at the scoreboard. You're dead last. Like, let's just get the show on the road here. And as I go to hit the putt, like a little noceum, like lands on my eyelid. And when I, I thought I almost whiffed the ball. And when I hit it, I thought I was going to be a foot and a half short. Did he hit it? Did he hit it? Oh, my goodness. By a whisker. Oh, man. By a whisker.

A bug flu in my eyes. I just hit it. I was like, oh, my God, that ends up short. I'm never going to hear the end of that. On the last roll. That's the way to end. He's smiling. He's having a good time. Neil's happy, Tron's happy.

Randy's happy. When they're happy on it. Yes. Well said. I mean, off the face, Aaron, it's no chance this gets there. I can't believe I did it. Fourth and inches for Sally and Matt. A little push push push.

I was just going to push it in there, didn't they? Almost a buff, um, but it was a tush push touchdown. Thank God. I just, I needed it. one itty-bitty moment and at least that was my first ever birdie in the Creator Classic. I made none of them at Sawgrass. And what more can you ask for?

We're retiring on top now. It ran out of holes. So I caught a little bit of the end of coverage. It looked like it just dumped. It's a four. Brad Dawkey. Greater Classic champion here in Atlanta.

Oh, no more play. Get off the course. How did my guy do with the, with the rain management? So again, my guy's all over it. He sees the storm about to roll in. He takes off for the hospitality, gets my bag undercover. I got caught doing an interview. I ended up getting absolutely soaked in the fairway,

make it in there just dripping. I could have jumped in that pond and been drier than I was. But my bag was perfectly pristine. Matt was perfectly pristine. Found the food area. Kept the mics dry. Like my guy was on top of it. I didn't even know where he was.

I had to text him, like, where are you? And he's like, I'm back at hospitality, bags drive. Yeah, I left, dude. I'm back home. Dude, I'm out of here. That sucked. I'm out of here. Kids at home.

I don't want to do this anymore. All right. I mean, big picture takeaways, man. Anything else in the notebook here? I am still and probably will eternally be tempted by the allure of competitive golf. It's when you're doing it and doing it well, there's nothing like it as a, as a, as a golfer as somebody that desperately wants to be good at golf it is the ultimate test it's the ultimate you know mirror like it's a you're looking at your own reflection in the mirror and

you're seeing what's in there and what you're made of i haven't liked the answer to that uh in recent goarounds and i i've been you know i've surprised myself with how much success i've had at times in competitive situations and it makes you want to keep trying and keep finding out what's in there but at the same time i've got to have a lot more respect for what goes into getting there. I'm a good golfer when I practice and play a lot and spend a lot of time on it, spend a lot of time thinking about it, keep my body in shape. That's not this current phase of my life.

So I got to stop doing these like just pray you get a 0.1 percentile performance out of yourself and respect what actually goes into competitive golf and all these dudes you're playing against because, man, you just walk out of there feeling like you don't belong is like the worst feeling. and I knew this was a possibility. I'm honestly not that embarrassed by it. I thought I'd be more embarrassed. I still, I want to try. I want to do fun and challenging things in golf.

I got to pick my spots a little bit better, not for this current phase in my life. And I'll keep saying that out loud until I actually follow through and stop signing up for these things. Well, listen, phase is just a phase, you know? That's not for eternity, but the current one, it ain't working.

Well, it's making me feel bad. better about my game. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's how I should be feeling about my game too. Yeah, it's always making a lot of good points here. Well, listen, are you glad you did it? I'm glad I did it. Yeah, it was fun. Like I had a lot of, I mean, you're still getting to go out and play a PJ tour golf course the night before. It's being played by the best players in the world. Like, it is really fun to test yourself. I had a ton of fun, especially with Matt. I mean, that was just such a fun experience to have him out there and still can't believe that happened. So I'm glad I did it.

It was the swift kick out the door to say, like, all right, buddy, we're, you're good here. You've given it a shot. This ain't you. You ain't that guy. You ain't that guy, pal. I just gave him, gave him nothing. We hit one green. I mean, it's just, you know, I don't have that.

I don't have that. You know what? I'm not going to blame that on you. You know, he's pressuring me into blaming you. Thank you. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. Crooked media trying to put, give me to blame the caddy when he only,

He only deserved 75% of the blame at most. Yeah, I feel like from the caddy standpoint, it's like, you know, Sali made some really good double bogies. We made a really good birdie on 17. We made a really good birdie on 17. His double bogeys were on him. A big shout out again.

Thanks to Matt for coming out and doing it. A shout out to the folks at Pro Shop and the tour for inviting me to come play in this and for organizing it and giving a stage for this. And congrats, of course, to the champion, Brad Dalke. And again, thanks to everyone that continues to donate to the Nolingup Endowed Scholarship to the Evans Scholar Foundation. You can sign up for that at Nolingup.com slash ESF.

If you are interested and you want more information on that, also email KC at Nolangup.com. If you have any questions about donor advised funds or any of that. But that was a main reason that I went through and embarrassed myself. So I wouldn't, I don't mind rattling the tip jar here to help us reach our goal to send the kid to college every four years at Miami University. It's pretty darn cool. This episode was edited and produced by Charles Van Kirk. Sound design by Charles Van Kirk. Audio capture by Charles Van Kirk.

Poor golf shots hit by Chris Solomon. Thanks everyone for tuning in. We'll see you next time.