No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1066: Recapping the Walker Cup at Cypress Point

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

Team USA has won the 50th Walker Cup at Cypress Point defeating Team GB&I 17-9 thanks to a dominant performance in singles on Saturday and Sunday afternoons. Soly, DJ and Tron recap a memorable weekend of golf at an incredible venue, compare and contrast the event with the Ryder Cup, hand out some superlatives  - including our favorite logo bingo sightings - and close with some quick news and notes from elsewhere in golf including Rory’s win at the Irish open.  Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nolayingup.com/esf⁠⁠⁠⁠ Support our Sponsors: ⁠Titleist⁠ The Stack System Delete Me USGA If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Nest⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠nolayingup.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club today. Yeah, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Better than most! Expect anything different? Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast coming to you,

live from the Sloat House here in Pacific Grove, California. We are, if you're not following this on any social media platforms, myself, which is Sali and my colleague, DJ, who you're hearing now. Hey, greetings. Hello. Hi, from Pacific Grove. And Mr. T.C. Goodnichua. We have been out at the 50th playing of the Walker Cup at the Cypress Point Club, the last several days.

And we have a lot to talk about from our week out there. quite a week if I may say absolutely I'm so glad we we did it first walker cup for you guys second walk up for me a lot to talk about quite a venue I think it was fine well I think we'll probably cover that at some point uh couldn't I see a lot of it at the end of the fog and all that so kind of could have been played on the green screen uh no we have a lot should take it to the sofa center a lot of notes a lot to talk about we're very very very very excited to debrief all because it was an excellent experience one thing you will notice when you are watching the best amateurs in the game. A lot, a lot of tidalist equipment in their bags to be specific with some

numbers. Nine of the 10 players on both the U.S. and GB&I squads teed up a ProV1, ProV1X or ProVee1X left dash ball. It's 90% of this year's Walker Cupers, including each of the top six ranked players in the world amateur golf rankings who are at Cypress Point this week. If you want to get a pick for these things, probably just better off playing a tidalist golf ball. I think that's right. It's going to help with a lot of possible forces pairings. 11 of 20 players were playing. a tidalist driver, including five of the Waggers top six. Titleist irons were the most played across the two teams, while more than half of the gap, sand, and lob wedges in play were Vokies.

And the most played putter this week at Cypress Point was the Scotty Cameron, with 10 flat sticks in play, including five phantom mallets, a go-lo six, a fastback 1.5, and a Newport 2 plus. Complete domination. Before we get going as well, I want to give a shout to our friends at the stack. You can go to the stack system.com slash NLU code no laying. up. You can get 10% off a bundle at the stack system. If you're unfamiliar with what that is, it is an incredible way to, one, adds speed to your swing. Two, improve your wedge play.

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but the amateur version of the Ryder Cup, right? 10 best amateurs from the United States versus the 10 best amateurs from Great Britain and Ireland. Of course, this one was played at Cyprus Point. They're excluding the mainland Europeans. They are. It's a topic that I'm sure we can get into. Do they need to bring in the mainlanders?

I don't know, T.C. T.C. only wants to bring this Scandinavian. So it would be GBI. And the Spaniards. Just to honor the great man, Sevi. Sure. Well, this is the 50th place. It's been going on for 100 years as it is.

So they've been doing it without so far. you know, buck tradition to add that, which I think you guys saw how important tradition is this week at the Walker Cup. A lot of tradition. The U.S. is 40 and 9 in this event as well. U.S. has played pretty well in this event. They've got a lot of good results. The event is played over two days.

The format is kick-ass, if I may say. It is foursoms, like two days, four sessions, foursums in the morning, singles in the afternoon. Four-foursums, the first day, eight singles matches, the first day. uh foursomes in the morning 10 singles matches uh everybody plays the second day i love the format the format i think it's rules far superior to the rider cup the only thing it maybe would have been cool to see at cypress would would would have been one four ball session just on some of those short par fours of like all right we've got one up there safe let me let me try to

get nuts here yeah i know we're going to get we're going to meander a lot on the show but i will say like for the competition sake there should be more team play that would keep bit closer. I think that the U.S. clearly separated in singles and, like, the G.B. and I gave them fits in the foursomes both times around. Well, starting in the foursomes, GB. and I took a three one lead, just like they did in 2020. At the old course, in the first session, Connor Graham and Tyler Weaver took down Jackson, Coivin and Tommy Morrison, three and one, which was kind of the big one. Coivin, obviously the number one ranked amateur in the world. But the U.S. bounced back in a big way, five and a half, two and a half in the first single session. Our guy,

Niles, Sheels Donagan, Lawrence Donagan, the golf writer, his son, the guy who is the most electric player at the U.S. AM that many people probably saw, got some revenge on his, the guy that bounced him from the U.S.A.M. Jacob Modelsky. Modleski,

Wadleski, I think, is how you say it. He beat him one-up, excellent match out there. Stuart Haggstad, I don't think he's won or hasn't lost a singles match. I don't think since 2017. I believe this is his fifth Walker Cup. He's, what, seven and one? He just kicks ass in singles.

He won two more this week. He won seven and five, the first one. Jackson Coyvin almost shot 29 on the front. Yeah, you have that in there. He almost shot 27. He shot 30 on the front and left like three out there. Sounds like you should have put him on the Ryder Cup team. A lot of people were saying that.

Preston Stout won six and five. A deer ran through the crowd, which that's a tease. We're going to get to that later and tell that story in full. That might be the highlight of this podcast. So the U.S. basically is taking a one-point lead overnight. It didn't really change much. Second for some session this morning, Sunday morning, was a split, two-to-two, leaving the U.S. one up.

Really good match in that lead one. Jackson Coyven went out first in every session, and him and Morrison went back up against Connor Graham and Tyler Weaver, and they kind of let that one get away, T.C. Yeah, Weaver and Graham had him dead to write and inopportune three-putt on 17. and then just completely bottled it on 18. They were done in by the genius,

dare I say the genius 18th hole, which we're going to get it to. I can't wait to talk about that. And then so it was looking tight, you know, it was a one point U.S. lead going into the final single session, which on paper is fun.

That's like anything could happen. Coin flip, who knows, it wasn't in anything could happen. The U.S. kicked ass in singles. It was bloodbath. Even the people there with accents were not like, oh, anything could happen. in this single session it was like we kind of know what's coming here yeah u.s uh what did they win

eight i think of the 10 singles matches outright one halved and and uh one gb and i victory for a final score of 17 to nine it was so refreshing that like the competition felt secondary yes in a very very positive uh additive way normally if you were to say that the competition would it would be like oh like what's the point it was like it was about a lot more than it was about a lot more than just the golf out there. I want to dig into that very specifically because I think that's the first jumping off point. But it was a 17 to 9 total victory.

Ethan Fang won his match, 5 and 4. Stue Haggistad won 4 and 3 with clinching point. You know, it was the 13th point, which meant that it was going to be a retain in the USA situation, retained in the USA. Shout out to the czar.

And he did it in style, man, in his home state. We have monster birdie putt on 15. Big fist pump, like pretty signature moment for for big stew out there at Cypress Point. That was very cool. He anchored down. So we're not doing that. Jackson Coivan wins his singles match to go three and one for the week.

It's a huge thing like that is a Ryder Cup that goes Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Walker Cup is only Saturday Sunday. For Stu and his PTO balance, that has to be a massive help. Like he could just come in, you know. They've been here for nine days. I'm not, I'm not taking the bait. I come from a stew household. I'm a big stew guy

They went All right The US 1 match 1 Match 2 The tied match 3 The US 1 match 4 5 6 7 7 8 Lost 9

110 That's just tough to get any mo Going out there It's tough to rally the troops And let them know that You know if we're right there We're at the gates Guys just keep pounding

It just it wasn't one of those days Like you said it's all I think everybody in the ground Kind of kind of knew that Even Nile, it seemed like he was out of gas. We saw him and just even his fans were kind of out of gas. Totally. I think everybody, yeah, for those that don't know, he's from Mill Valley, right?

Which is kind of, but just up the coast. On the other side of the Golden Gate Bridge, basically. And so he moved here when he was a kid. His parents were Scottish and just a very, a very fun dynamic because it was like truly, like, there's a lot of these matches out there. But, like, you couldn't, it was such an international crowd. it felt like, but then you also had like some of these guys who had local international players that had local ties.

So you could not go by the cheers because you really didn't know which team those were for, which was a fun dynamic. But last kind of, you know, X's and O's here. This is the fifth straight win for the U.S. G.B. and I has not won on American soil since 2001 at Ocean Forest. You guys want to know some of the names that were on those teams. 2001, hold on. Captain was Danny Yates.

one would that have been like that was pre kutcher and kutcher was not on this team that was like just kutcher would have been 98 or 99 there was a man from georgia tech on the team bryce molder bryce molder yeah exactly uh Lucas glover David eager James driscoll that guy that guy's awesome uh Eric compton DJ Trahan Jeff quinney uh over on the gb and i team you had people like graham mcdowell you might have heard of him Michael hoey Nigel Edwards I think he went on to be a captain, Luke Donald. Anyways, how many Nigels you think have played on Walker Cup teams? More than a handful, I would say.

Anyways, guys, that's kind of the rundown of what happened in case you missed it. I want to ask you, T.C., I'll go back to what you were just saying. First impressions of the Walker Cup is your guys' first one at one. I think the biggest takeaway kind of has to be it's not really about the golf, but it is super about the golf. It's kind of like a mixer, like a social event, but it's like a, it's like a, the highest golf IQ crowd in the history of the world but also everybody's kind of just talking to each other and hanging out was that your guys's perception yeah very much so i mean it started uh we got here friday mid afternoon we went straight out to cyprus the flag raising ceremony uh RNA guy spoke and then

and then w spoke sure uh that was that's kind of w bush for those yeah which it's it's that walker When they say Walker Cup. The logo bingo was out of control. Yeah, just like very much like high golf IQ. And like I would be the next one in the States is abandoned. Is abandoned. So I'd be curious to know how much different that would be because it's not at Cyprus point of all places. This was like a bucket list experience for almost anybody you talk to in some way.

Like just about being there. There was a guy I was walking with. today, he said, I applied for the lottery, didn't get it. I applied to volunteer with the USGA, didn't get it. And then he got a call three weeks ago to volunteer with NBC. And he was like, I was, I booked my flight on the spot and came right down. And to that point, like it, I think even for me, like I played Cyprus a couple times prior and thought, man, I'm only going to get to make this walk so many times.

And I feel like I almost overdosed. We did. We made the walk too many times. times on 1560 and uh and but man like what a it was just it was surreal the entire what 72 hours that we were out there not even you know 54 hours we were out there just very surreal and uh and yeah the golf felt both felt secondary but also highly integral that makes sense no i know it's it's really hard to explain i know exactly what you're saying and i wish i could do a better job of i think it's like the characters involved like nobody really

not nobody but not many there really actually care about the result so you're into the competition without having a massive rooting interest like but you're into the result of each individual match not so much the overarching the result of each moment you know like you're you're parked on nine green and you're like i can't wait to see what happens here in a larger scheme like i i can say this for myself is like in a way it would be easier to do a podcast like talking about the x's and o's and the birdies and bogeys from having just sat there and watched the competition on TV. Like, I walked away each day being like, I know what happened in front of me, but like, it's so hard to keep track of everything else.

And you're running into people constantly. And it's, it is kind of like half, there's a live golf event going on. And half like, it's, it's the PGA show on steroids. You're rooting for sort of five. Yeah, it's exactly. It is a, a, very stupid. I'm aware. It's a golf event.

Like the Ryder Cup is an entirely different thing. thing. This is a, and this is on television. It sounds like they did a relatively good job broadcasting, you know, bringing Cyprus to life and all of that. But like, that's kind of secondary to like this just being one of the, the biggest just golf and nonmedia events in the world. And it was a super cool. There's not a lot of scoreboards out there. It's just like there's such an old school feel for anyone that's read the match, you know, about the match at Cyprus point. Like there's such an old school feel of being out there and just kind of using word of mouth as to what's happening and one like really minor thing that I don't even know if they do this in

rider cups I can't remember because the noise is so loud but the there's a walking score that announces what happens on every hole and in so many parts of the course you can hear it from a different like what happened on a different hole it's awesome it just gives you all the information on the seventh hole team USA for Great Britain and Ireland five matches tied like oh crap he tied it up there like and the word of mouth just kind of circulates through and I mean, we're going to do a whole separate part of talking about it at Cyprus, but just like what the USJ has done about putting the importance of venues, USGA and R&A, like the importance of the venues and where they've taken this event over the last decade

and where it's going into the future. It's like, I've said this after the Asia Pacific Amateur at Royal Melbourne. Like I went to that tournament because it was at Royal Melbourne and it's one of the best golf courses in the world. I want to support a great golf tournament going to a great venue. And I walked away with such an appreciation for Royal Melbourne, and having watched others play on it, despite having played it myself. It went into an entirely different level.

I played Cyprus once, and, like, I feel like I got, like, 99% of my experience about Cyprus and understanding of it was from these last two days. Like, watching the best players in the world play it in that setup with those incredible pins, just an awesome job from the USGA of setting that competition up to be as exciting as possible and making the course come to life and all the contours and all of the McKenzie and Rainers, all the stuff that comes with it, it was just very overwhelming. It felt like you were just just overdosing on top, top, top level golf experience this week. I was going to like kind of go back and start at a certain year and just like try to illustrate

because everybody knows the venues are great, but it's like when you hear them red off back to back to back, it's pretty jarring. So I'll go back to randomly 99 just because we love Nairn and Nairn's an awesome spot. Shout up to Sharpie, who we saw from season two of Taurus today. Nairn Ocean Forest, Gantin, Chicago Golf Club, Royal County Down, Marion, Royal Aberdeen, National Golf Links, Royal Lithman, St. Anne's, LACC, Royal Liverpool, Seminole. The old course, this week, of course, was at Cypress Point. Next, we're going to La Hinch. Next year, there's not a two-year gap.

Next year, it's going to La Hinch. Get back on the opposite year of the Riter Cup. Going to La Hinch, then we're going to abandon Dunes the following year. I'm sorry, 2028. Princes in 2030. Oakmont in 232 and then the international one hasn't been announced but the next US venues

Chicago Golf Club 2036 Pine Valley in 24 so pretty haters only man like that that's about as good as you can do I think yeah this one I mean I've had this one circle for a long time of like all right I want to go to that and I don't think I need to go to

another rider club like this this is kind of I don't know this and Solheim Cubs are kind of my jam well so again I feel like We're starting at the basic level here. But for people who don't understand, like, well, why don't you just do the Ryder Cup at these places? But, like, what was your takeaway from, you know,

why don't they play stroke play here? Why don't they do this, that, and the other thing? Like, why does it work for this event and not work for other things? I was standing with Mike Wan on, like, above the eighth green and ninth T. And he said he's like, this place is 6,600 yards. I don't think a single guy out here knows what he's shot. Yeah. On any of these rounds this week.

and I don't think they care and nobody else out here cares and it's just about the shots themselves. And I don't think anybody would have gone out and broken the course record. Like the course defended itself well and the shot values were high. But it's such a great match play course.

Yeah. It really like the watching the, there were true strategies in some of the holes and like even the strategy of how aggressive you wanted to be with certain approach shots. A lot of guys walking over to see where the other guy's ball was before they went and played a shot. like it that's a match play golf course well then there's there's there's what there's par fives

basically uh you know i know they played five as as a par four but you know you've got two five six and ten are all par fives and you know that's volatility in the first and then and then you've got short par fours on you know on nine uh you know eight's relatively short and i don't think anybody really went for it but 17 was moved up yeah and it's just you know which yeah how did that play today it was awesome i only got to see i mean not that not the many matches made it there unfortunately but uh it was cool conor graham uh hit it over the green uh he was playing against mason howl who kind of hit it long left in the shit and it just left like a very cool shot backwards the fogs rolling in i mean it was like it's such a

weird t-shot from back there when it's moved up because you got the trees in the middle of the fairway and you're trying to figure out guys i think guys were hitting the wedges right am i going left it sounded like guys were hitting like at most like eight iron when you and i were standing there you know try and try and try and contrast that with uh what did uh god was that Preston stout that we watched yesterday that had like uh 186 in or something it was uh j Summy j Summy yeah who had like 186 in yesterday it an unbelievable shot so anyways a lot of variety and a lot of changed things up and taking advantage of cool pins i stood on so like I still there yeah like I basically went up there yesterday there was no fans up there you just get up there inside ropes and it was it's up at this

really cool like almost spooky part of the property and there's these big trees behind and eight's this dogleg right around the dune shorter par four and then nine is one of the best short fours in the world if not the best and and i'm you know i'm standing up there and like one and then bryson walks up and bryson like brys was up there for half an hour and there's you don't know, half a dozen of us up there. Bryson's just talking about how it's his favorite hole in the world and all, and he's like analyzing each guy, how they,

because a lot of the GBI and I guys laid up. Ethan Fang hit one of the coolest three woods I've ever seen that. What was that? He must have teed up an inch and a half off. And I'm like, what is he doing? And he hits this swooping cut in, LaSaso had a great one in.

But, but, you know, Bryson, so I was asking him, I'm like, hey, what do you do on 17? and he's like oh it totally depends on the wind but if the wind is at all favorable like I just ship it I just I just try to drive the green I was like what do you do on 18 he's like same thing if the wind is you know if I don't drive 18 or 17 I try to drive 18 because because that means the wind's coming from the opposite direction and it was just fascinating to see his take it I was like what would you hit here he's like I probably you know five iron did you introduce yourself to brison

uh he introduced himself to me actually and you know he said I said, hi, Bryce in Deschambeau, I said, Todd Schuster. Because that's what's said on my credential. We gave him so much shit for that. You would not have told him you. You didn't refuse to tell him that you were Trod Carter. You know who this is. He's standing there.

He said, eight is this is one of my favorite, if not my favorite green in the world. And he said, nine is my favorite, favorite home in the world. Nine, I want to pause on that one because nine is, I tweet something about this. I should have clarified it a little bit better. But I said something like, we get told on. television how if there's a short par for in a golf course we are told that it's risk reward and most of them especially what we see on the pj tour are not risk reward the strategy is hit it close to the green find it and figure it out from there of course there's a risk yeah there's the tour is growing

up strips of rough to keep balls from going into water and it just becomes a very clear decision like you just get it as close like the data always says get it as close to the green as possible and figure it out from there but the ninth green at cypress is so severe so skinny and so Surrounding it is dune sand. It is not bunker sand. It is, you're going to be in a crater. So you can hit a 98th percentile shot, but if it is the wrong distance or a little bit offline, you can end up in these sand dunes and be totally and completely boned.

Weaver's first name, remind me. Tyler. Tyler Weaver was playing a match, singles match against Jackson Coyven. I saw Coyven hit an unbelievable, in singles yesterday, so hit an unbelievable three wood to about 12 feet behind the hole, missed the put that would have been for 29. It was just like, holy crap, like incredible confidence to hit that.

But then this morning and this afternoon, he missed the green with the three woods. And it ended up in this spot just long. And he hit the, it's a horrible, you know, it wasn't in the worst lie. He was in a very, very bad lie this morning or put his partner in a very bad lie this morning.

And they lost the hole because they played ping pong back and forth. And he hits this filthy, like shot 90 degrees right of where the hole is. but plays the slope and it runs down there to eight feet. He makes the birdie. And his opponent, Luke Weaver also went for the green. Tyler Weaver, I keep on to say Luke Weaver. And hit a really good one.

He hit a utility iron off the tee and like damn near held the green. I mean, it was a very good shot. But it took him three shots. It took, we were three shots to get from the right side. And then he just picked up. They couldn't get you. Some of the one of the best amateur golfers in the world couldn't get the ball out. Like the actual texture around.

that green was a very severe penalty. So then this afternoon was like, I am camping on nine and I am going to watch guys play this hole. And like, word pretty much got out of like, yeah, I mean, you can hit that green. It's going to take an incredible shot,

but like you might make bogey otherwise. And then it became like a reverse arms race. Like if the first guy laid up off that tea, the next guy was going to be laying up because you could almost certainly get to lay up, watch how far back I lay up. I watched all 20 guys from that T-Bucks play the same hole. And I would say the first two groups, Weaver and Cove and both went for it.

And then it got really, really sloppy. Like some of the, you could see some of the GB&I guys get, they're just tired and a little bit scratchy. And they were missing the fairway left with their layups. Well, and then from the fairway, they were missing. Again, it took an exacting wedge shots. They were coming up short or going long with wedges. Stu went long with a wedge from the fairway. It was just like, I guess I don't watch almost, almost no.

amateur golf in person. I was really impressed with the level of play. Like obviously some of these are the best amateurs in the world, but like watching them hit the shots on 16 and the really, really demanding shots all week was just like, dude, these guys are like pros. Like this is almost indistinguishable from the pro golf. But to watch the golf course at 6,600 yards, slap them in the face the way some of these holes in pins did. Like, again, it's one of those things that I don't know. With no wind. No wind. And it, I guess I, when I played Cyprus the one time, I just did not appreciate how integral all the contouring is in all the spots. It was a lot softer

when I played it. Just like a little bit of that USGA crispness and the whole locations that they chose. They were so fun. And the exacting nature, the required shots, like if you went long right of the pin on 14, I mean, you're so incredibly boned. If you go like three feet too far, and it was just, it was just awesome to watch that with that in-person context of how severe the punishments were around the green. That's one of the things that's missing with the Rider Cup. You've got such strong characters on either side, but the golf course is not a character whatsoever. And it's set up so well, eminently, you know, to be eminently fair or just pretty neutral. The stage. What's a, can you think of honestly like a moment in a rider cup

where the ball's on the ground and you're like, oh, what's about to happen? Like the ball, like it doesn't pre like, you know, that's what I'm saying in the last like 15 years. Maybe like war at the shore kind of stuff but yeah i know you're so right that just doesn't doesn't happen just flipping on the the k club a little bit while we're watching uh you know rory in in a playoff and like then after watching the golf we saw in person but just like oh my god some of these golf courses well there's such a difference between you know there's strategy that too of like all right if everybody's hitting great shots or the you know it's more about distance but this was truly knife sedge in certain spots and um you know it was just like michael assassin

hit what I thought was the best shot of the day on on nine today and he hit this you know just absolute seed with a I don't know if it was a hybrid or like a five wood or something and it was clearly like like if strokes gained was there would have been like a 1.5 strokes gain it was that good I mean and then all the golf we watch I don't at no point was I ever like oh that guy doesn't hit it far enough he's screwed against the mismatch not at no point it was like distance a really huge deciding factor in any of the golf this week which is again really refreshing yeah so i i mean dee this was your first time at cyprus yeah it was uh first time walking the grounds first time being out there so many people asking because again like it's a

very intimate setting there's only like five thousand people on the ground or so and everybody's milling about and there's not a ton of ropes and so you're running into anyone and everyone all the time and so awesome a lot of nLU people out there saying hey and a lot of people asking A lot of ball-knowers supporters. A lot of ball-knowers supporters, grown men with tears in their eyes, C&TC. But a lot,

like almost, you know, everyone, like, what do you think of the course? I'm like, what do you want me to say, man?

I, like, it's, I was talking to, we're staying with our buddy, Charlie Warzel, uh, from the golfing journal

and the Atlantic. And, uh, we were talking about it a little bit. And I was like, it's a little bit like meeting, like what I would imagine meeting someone like Bono is like, you know,

or it's just like, man, I've just like seen so many photos. so much like reverence i've read so much about it there's all these things where i'm just like when you actually see it in person i'm like yeah i don't it's it's pretty much what i thought it was going to be you know it's it's really hard you were saying it was a little different it is there there are there were specific elements that were different and the dune section you know i i know about the the three acts and all that stuff and when you get into that like you get a little bit of it

on one with the first green that plays back into that corner but especially coming barreling down the hill with like 11, 12, 13, kind of all going out towards the, uh, towards the coast there. It's the dunes are just so much more severe than I thought. And they've really cleaned them up over like like the, like the, the progression of this golf course over the last, I would say the first time I ever saw it was 2018 or 2019. And they have turned off the water. They started cutting it tight. Perfect color.

And there's all sorts of there's like like in Shackleford's, um, newsletter this week. He said there's, there's like eight or nine different strains of grass. in the fairways, and they're fine with that. It's a very natural, rustic presentation, but they've really cleared off a lot of those big dunes to where you really, like, the dune really pops now. But I think what's crazy about it, and again, maybe this is just my own personal kind of experience

or resume or CV of, like, seeing golf courses is any golf course I see that's like in the dunes, quote unquote, is usually like in Ireland or in Scotland, and it's got the big merrim grass, and it looks a certain way. And I'm like, that's not what this looks like. It's almost looks like stream song or something, you know, in spots with like the big chunky, choppy kind of dunes. I'm like, man, I just wasn't, I wasn't picturing that.

It's really hard to capture that. And then photos or, and then the few photos that do get out that are not, you know, 15, 16, 17 or 18, it's like, it just looks, it's, it's really weird. It's so much more piley, you know, there's big piles of dunes rather than just the big, sweeping kind of dunescapes that you see. in Scotland or Ireland or other famous golfers. You play on top of them too.

Yeah, right. And the T-boxes are just leged in and benched into these and they're green sites too. It's just, I mean, that's 7, 8, 9. Bold, man.

It's insane. And then the way that, the way that 6 and 10 are benched into the hill there, that's crazy. And then, or sorry, 6 and 11. But then I think just generally speaking,

too, I think the, like, I would go watch the, the drone show, shots that the USGA put up this morning. So Sunday morning. Shout out to Matt Hahn and the whole social team. I was talking to him out there. He's like, you know, we got a couple more. We might, we'll see. We might sprinkle back in the night. He's like, wait till you see some of the other stuff we got. I think that was like I follow probably 150 different like golf photographers on Instagram. I think those were the single best golf drone shots I've ever seen. Just the way that

they captured the contouring and the scale of the property of you really saw. all the, you know, like just how how severe it is, but also how much everything works together. And it's, I mean, it's just truly brilliant, like the McKenzie stuff out there. And then you get out to like 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 is probably you've, that's the most built up you've ever had any sort of stretch holes in your entire life. Yeah, and it's just, there's no way it can't live up to the hype because it is that good. I mean, it's, I don't know how it could get better. And like you and I were talking about it, Tron, it's like a lot of the people,

you know that middle section you know there's just areas like when the highs are so high there's very naturally areas that can get slept on right but it's like as soon as you make that I mean I don't know I'm rambling but it's like the obviously eight and nine are all world 10's cool playing back up so it's like no slight to any of those but it's like man once you turn that corner it's just all gas like you're coming barreling straight down the hill until you bank and you make the left and oh now we're hugging the coast now we're making another hard hairpin turn we're playing 18 was the fucking cool as

all I've ever seen in my life it's come on it's so good carried away it's so good it decided so many matches you he goes that's that is just the most brilliant match play finishing hall it's so cool man I loved I had no idea what to expect of like I've heard just like people that shit on it

I don't get it so if I keep hearing the Cypress had bad views that's why I was told cybers isn't a three-place shit So many people, they're like, yeah, but that 18th holes suck. Totally. It ruins the whole day. It was good in this format. If you are like me or many other people and you have no idea what we're talking about,

I'm sure you can picture 15, 16, 17, along the coast, most spectacular golf calendar holes ever. 18 is a hard dog, like right, like a hairpin turned up this hill, play straight up, almost like Olympic club or, you know, something like that on the 18th. But there's just the most well-positioned, giant. trees and it's like you got to hit guys are probably hitting seven iron off the tea five five irons down to the corner and it's like a fairly big space to it's not a problem to land the golf ball in there but like you got to land it in a very specific spot or you're going to be

so blocked out and what was so cool saw on the front on on the right or the left like it or short or long it's one of the most three dimensional holes i've ever seen you have to hit the right distance off the tea there is got to go too long with whatever iron you're you're in trouble. Probably the right shape. But not only that, it plays downhill and away from you down to that corner, but you also have to hit it over this tree.

It's just like, it's, you're uncomfortable left. It's so cool, man. It's such a good hole for this skill level of players. Like, when I played it,

there are probably many people listening to this who have just boned one right into one of these many trees. Like I hate this old. And do not have the shot that you need to hit it. But watching these guys, it's like, oh, man, like the guys who are,

you just find so many people on the line of like are you blocked out or not and these guys are crafty enough and can hit it high enough and can spin it enough and can knock it down enough to like never totally be blocked out which makes it so fun. And then oh by the way like the green is like a 5% grade

back to front. This I mean it decided it decided a lot of matches in what I think I don't know some people would probably disagree but I think it's a super fun way. We got to the the Coyvin and you know Tommy Morr Morrison match today versus Connor Graham and Tyler Weaver.

And the Americans put it in the perfect spot. They solved the three-dimensional puzzle. They had an easy shot where it's like, you know, you can knock it in the middle of the green. And GB and I pushed it just a little bit and you're totally boned. And it's like, are you going to hit this like massive punch cut runner up the hill? It's got to rise. But you got to cover this.

That was like one of the most anticipated golf shots I've seen in the last couple years. you and I are like all three of us are standing right behind just like oh no idea what's about to happen with everything on the line the whole match on the line think about it you're like on the way so you got four par fives in the first 10 holes then you don't hit the driver from like 14 through 18 no that 14 t shot is just like I was standing up on that most substantial complex of trees I've ever seen before I was standing on 14 t and like we've talked to about this a lot, just visuals of, like, when you're playing in the mountains, you know, like we always talk about like Lufitin links, when you can just hit like a riser with the

mountain backdrop, like that's how 14. I heard noises out of your mouth I've never heard before for some of those T shots on 14. Oh, did you see that shot? Just a heavy, heavy long iron. Yeah, that'll do. Oh, God, it was good stuff. Yeah, good stuff. All right, well, we're going to get really wound up before we get too far.

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i feel bad telling this story because like a guy was uh we'll get he was fine oh it's ultimate i hope he's i hope he's i hope he's okay it got much less funny if he's if he's not okay if you don't know many things about cybers point one of the things you probably will know is uh there is a ton of deer all over the Monterey Peninsula. You see the photos at Pebble Beach all the time of these, you know, kind of animatronic deer just rocking around. Very bold. Very comfortable with people.

And thick. They're like fullbacks. I don't think that the Cypress deer are quite used to see in this many people out on their stomping grounds. Maybe in total in five years. Yeah. And so there were a couple of these spots where like, you know, famously the you can get pretty close to the players at the Walker Cup.

There's not a lot of ropes. kind of just wander around. And so you end up getting a lot of these like circled, you know, kind of greens and fairways and just a just big masses of people out there in small groups. And so when a deer gets inside of one of those groups, it just kind of freaks out. It doesn't know what to do. It's trying to get out. It tries to kind of like to ease its way out at first. And then it just starts like a dog that like gets the zoomies, you know, it just like starts bucking around sprinting looking for an exit just trying to find the seam tc's like a kickoff return yeah you saw there it's like darren sprawls out there it was so fast and so this one dear everybody's

funneling into this one space up 18 fairway climbing up this hill it's just this mass of people and i'm i'm looking over there or like looking up and i i vividly i saw uh kira dixon from the golf channel i saw her face just like totally changed i was like oh Oh, that's weird. What's going on? Boom. Here comes this deer just flying down the hill. People are like basically diving out of the way.

And apparently, yeah, there was like a big mass. And it was like, this guy's going left. This guy's going right. This guy's going left. This guy's going right. And this deer comes right down this scene. There's one linebacker. There's one linebacker.

This poor guy just, I think maybe took it right to the chest. It sounded like he was okay. Our guy Charlie caught up with him afterwards. And he was like walking off totally fine. I don't know if he had to go get checked up after that. A report I got today from a photographer was that he did have to go to the hospital. That might, it could be a,

hey, this could be a great situation for me if I need to make a hospital visit out of this. I've never seen anything like it. I mean, there were divvits down the, basically down the center line of like, like the deer took off so fast that it's like hooves dug in because it was accelerating. I mean, the deer, it was going 20, 25 months.

It was going so fast. It all happened so fast. And there's ropes. I saw another one of the bucks like kind of get tied up in the rope and start thrashing around. And so it's like people can, you know, kind of assume what the clientele is

out at a super duper exclusive golf tournament out at Cypress Point. And it's just all these ultra high net worths just diving out of the way of this deer. It was like there was a split second where I was just like, yo, somebody's about to, this is going to be a correct. rear-ender for some of these people and it just yeah hopefully it seemed like everybody mostly got

off okay so hopefully our it's one of the most surreal moments so jarring so jarring god just a lot of wildlife there were whales out there earlier in the week uh although much to our friend joshackle for chagrin they they kind of left the premises birds you got the seals the otters and seals down there just you know all sorts of of creatures yeah it would dude i i thought about this a lot i'm like how am i going to do this podcast and i without sounding like how mad magic johnson tweets about how cool this place was but i honestly don't know if i've ever spent two days anywhere in like a we didn't get to hit the golf shots but i don't know if i've had a better golf experience just like being in a place of golf

and walking it and experiencing it and i mean like i know it's a it's a meme at this point about how close you can get to the players of the walker cup but it was just so relaxed and it was So I just felt really special. I was just filled with a ton of gratitude to be able to call this like a work weekend and to be in that place. And we're usually here during the 18T Bell Beach Pro Am and it's January and February and the weather's bad and cold and wet. And like I've just never been here in September. And it's truly like one of the most beautiful places in the world. And now again, my brain is still like processing Cyprus.

I mean, having four like you talked about like, yeah, you can you guys can picture 15. home but and I've played the freaking hole and I've seen pictures of it and I've dreamed of playing it forever like I know 15 I didn't know it until this way when I see four different pins to like understand how a good player should be using the bank and like what it the appreciation for how good of a shot it took to get to that back hole location uh yesterday afternoon and and how oh god it's just layers upon layers upon layers of how the perfection of this golf course came alive and I think I walked off after playing it and said like I mean it was about what I expected which is like one of the greatest golf courses in the world of course incredible views and I missed

so much I'm I honestly missed so much to the point where I'm just I'm I'm in complete all of cypress point I'm embarrassed that it took me two visits to get it but uh it it I'm I'm going to be singing about this for a long time yeah yeah I'm here here I'm kind of I know I'm at I'm at a little bit of a loss man and then and then you're walking around out there And it's like, you know, it goes walking. Oh, it's, it's Pau Gasol. Thomas Friedman, the columnist. That was my favorite.

Who was it? It was like you and Watt and Bryson and Tom Friedman, standing around or something. Or you and Wolfie at Tom Friedman. That's who, that's who it was. You know, but then you see, I was standing on 17, you were asking, like, when it was drivable.

And I looked over, and it's, it's, Connor Graham's just driven over the green. And there are some ropes in specific spots because, like, you can't have people milling about if, you know, the next T-shot is going to be over the line of where people would be standing. And so they had a rope between, like, basically at the end of 17 before 18 starts. And so the ropes kind of like came to a point. And who's standing, like, in that corner, like, as physically close to the green as a patron can get

without being inside the ropes was Fred Ridley. Just kind of like with a hat and sunglasses, kind of keep it a low profile. And I'm like, oh, look at it. Yeah. I mean, Sala, you had a big, like, just an unbelievable run in today with, uh. So. So stupid. So stupid.

But I, we could tie a bow on a story from two and a half years ago, if you'll allow me for a second. Uh, I told the story, I think on the, on the preview pod when we did the at the 2023 PGA championship, uh, which was it at in Rochester at Oak Hill. And it's, it's PGA week. And, you know, know, we have a relationship with Seth. Well, I know Seth. We say hi when we see each other at tournaments.

And I went to Whole Foods that night to shop for some groceries for the week. He's getting dinner. Pick a garbage plate back in the Airbnb. Seth had. He didn't go to Wegmans. Wow. Seth had longer hair at the time, but I'm walking, you know, one of the aisles. And from far, like down the aisle, I'm like, oh, gosh, it's PGA week.

Like, of course Seth is going to be here. Like, that's Seth Wall. She's got nothing to do. He's at the Whole Foods tonight. Yeah. And I walk it up and I just go, hey, hey, how are? didn't say, hey, Seth, but I said, hey, how are you? And the guy turns, and it's not Seth. It is 100% not Seth. But he is so, like, in the same, he was faking it or I didn't know at the time. He's like, hey, I'm great. How are you? Good to see you out here. And I just like, out here at a whole thing. Well, I think we'll get there. I don't remember exactly what he said, but, you know, we end up walking past each other and whatever. And I came back to tell you guys, I was like, guys, you're not going to believe this. But I just thought I saw Seth Wall at the grocery store, said hi to him. it was not Seth Waugh, whatever, not that good of a story.

And then we get to Sunday, and on TV is a guy giving a ruling to Victor Hovlin on whatever hole that was, and I look up. And it was this guy, it was fake Seth Wall, like, what are the, he's a rules official? I had no idea. And so I ran into Seth this week. Well, so periodically over the last two and a half years, you just be like, oh, there's fake Seth Wall. We see him all the time.

People blow up our slack, say, FSW, FSW, there he is. And so I see Seth out there and I'm talking with him for a while and I was just like, you know, whatever, shooting the shit. And I was like, I got to tell you a funny story. There's a guy, you know, he looks like you. And I get like halfway into the story. He's like, yeah, Teddy Anthonoplas. Like, I know exactly who you're talking about. He looks like me.

And I told Shaq the story this week and he was loving it. He had a good laugh about that. We're up there for another. Yeah. Not actual Shaqq. Who, you know, we said Paukes-all. Shack might have been here. You know, it's crazy.

Supercept, Chef Bobby Flay. Anyway, like 15 minutes later, sure enough, upcoming. coming to the fairway is fake Sethwa. And Shaq is freaking out. And it comes over. And so anyways, I got a picture. So I go up to now, I know his name is Teddy. And I was like, I've got a weird story for you.

But like two and a half years ago. And he goes, the whole foods in Rochester. I was like, you remember that? How do you remember that? And he was like, well, I could tell you didn't know who I was, but I knew who you were. And so my wife asked me like, who was that that said hi. He's like, well, that guy had no idea who I was. but I know he does the no layup podcast.

So I got a picture with fake Sethwa and real Sethwaugh together with me in the middle. I alert I learned you guys. I was like, I have a red alert picture I'm about to send you. And so we can close a loop on that story. God, that's good stuff. Should we get to some awards, you think? Is it time? I think it is time for some awards.

These are in no particular order. These are not official awards. We just had a bunch of random shit to talk about. We figured we'd organize it as awards. I'll kick it off. I want to give the pace of play. award very important award to jackson coiven i was absolutely blown away it's very cool and you can see the number one player in the world also just be a monstrously fast player he was constantly

like he was out first in every match maybe that's why he was out first he didn't want to be held up you know it's almost like one of those uh seniors at a regular t-time and a golf course but he was he was regularly like he's a biker gang he might have it he was like regularly a hole and a half ahead of the second group which made it kind of a pain in the ass because i'm like oh cool i can drift back. You know, yeah, I'll watch the Coyven match and then I can kind of catch, you know, the T shots here and the green here. And he's always like a hole and a half ahead. So you couldn't really do it. Coiven, uh, is my first time seeing him in person. He, he doesn't have any like wildly loud traits, but you just, you just watch him play and you're like, oh, that's, like, he's like

the ball striking, like the sounds there, the ball striking is there. He's sitting hidden in a dead middle of the face, like proper player, Putswell, all that stuff. It kind of reminds me like Roman Anthony on the Red Sox where you're just like, man, like, this guy's clearly going to be like, you know, a dude for the next 15 years. And like I was more impressed physically with other guys, but you can tell like he's just got this, this confidence and aura. I know, man. And I wish I had a better way to explain it. But I walked away and maybe the number one ranking does something in your head. Obviously he's played well on tour.

And so you come in with like some you want to, you want to be in, you know, when you're watching them kind of play for the first. first time, especially in a setting like that, but it's a little bit like the Gordon sergeant stuff at, uh, St. Andrews, although he like did also ball out and went four and oh, but Coyvin went three and one and played great. I so know what you're saying. It's like it's very much the sum of the parts. It's not one big. Oh, he drives it so far. Oh, he's, you got to see him hit his irons. It's just, just everything. And there's a little swagger and it is just kind of like a, uh, I don't know, just has it. Like he has it. And it's a big moments this week. And but he's not a, like you said, he's not a big guy and I was just racking my brain trying to think of like who he reminds me of it's not like a

think the most aesthetically pleasing golf swing either you know what I mean it's not like it perfect you know perfectly fundamental picture perfect golf swing I mean it's obviously a very good golf swing but it's not it did the ball just goes where he wants it to go and he's he's confident he's fearless he's very confident he just reminded me of like a I was saying Brian Harmon like a not lefty or not golf swing not even golf style just like Brian Harmon and the person. It commands the space. Yeah, he kind of like a smaller guy that's still like,

yeah, absolutely just fills up the room. But that mixed with like a dude from the mid-90s, an unknown guy from the mid-90s. I cannot pin down who I'm trying to talk about, but I'll keep thinking on it. But it kind of looks like a movie villain a little bit. Like the guy that you want like the up,

like he's the superstar player that the, you know, the unheralded player that the movie is probably about is going to go up against. Like he kind of just has that look to him. he had a moment where he uh he like hit a frustrating shot it was the third shot they had so he drove it in the dune in foursums uh was that i can't i'm losing track of days i don't remember which day this was but uh drove it in the in the dune in foursums and then his partner pinged it over the green he hits one out of the dune and he takes like a swipe backwards at the sand and like flung sand

all over like a member up there and like but he turned around immediately like it was profusely apologizing to the guy but has a little edge to him but then like was not like there was some guys out there that had some edges to them that were not nearly as self-aware which i think we'll probably get to as well i mean i'm pool through was walking around can you give the worst take awards while we're talking about coiffin we are going to give out the worst take award that we've not heard this yet we saved this for you uh we are walking uh down the 11th hole um singles match yesterday afternoon yeah and we are walking with former pGA tour player blaine barber uh who has caddy for jackson knows jackson um

Auburn lives in Auburn yeah and he's you know he's telling me I catty for him at the US Open qualifier like he shot two over on the front nine and he's like man it's really I you know he's giving up the pro game as of now and like you know it doesn't want to do the stresses anymore he's like I've never been less stressed about can for a guy's like he's totally got this shoots 13 under the remaining 27 holes and qualifies for the US open so and so DJ asked him like what's like what's Jackson Cuyven's like superpower and like before you can even finish the question he's like putting he's just a lights out putter he's just a really really good putter. I've never seen

him three putt. He makes everything inside 10 feet. It's unbelievable what this guy can do. Gets up to the Green on 11 and hits one of the worst lag putts. I've ever seen a semi-professional golfer hit and just has a completely unnecessary and uncharacteristic three

putt immediately. He'd blow away by or even short? Short left. Like it was just really, really bad putt and gosh, we just had a feel day with playing. He was blade stated 40 yards away. We're like, you guys are always chirping. Look how hard our job is. We have to do take. You get one take. One take and it flies back in your face immediately. So yeah, we warned

we were going to call them out of the pond, but we love you, Blake. T.C., what do you got? You got any awards? I think reverse pace of play. I mentioned this on XD Everything app. Sounds like a great kid. Sounds like they're working on it. Preston Stout. Slow. Stans over the ball for a long time. They're not quite sure what's going on with I guess, but he sounds like he's not a pat-in-a-hat type. Like, he's going to, you know, he's a human being, he's going to get it sorted.

God, he had a good shot in 17. Yes. Oh, my God. Were you guys standing there for that? Holy smokes, that was a good shot to cap things off. I thought it was fitting that, I would say the, like, reverse ball speed imposter award. Okay.

I'm getting off the map early on these awards. It goes to Tommy Morrison, because I just thought that I know I thought I thought he was going to be an absolute nukeer of the golf ball not at all no it's like big randy Matt cootcher was out there like following along that's why he was out there he was like coocher it's like all right this guy's a massive massive human being me coocher 6 4 you know really athletic and just absolute poofs the ball and I think coocher's probably starting to lobby for his son to maybe make one of these teams the next three or four years

but Tommy Morrison just it sounds like he's a really hard worker but just not a lot of ball speed going on for a dude that's 6-8 yeah he uh he played great in singles I watched a good good a bit of him today he played nile today right yeah he did which

Nile was like I don't know I'm making this up as we go but the electricity award the uh the like the most most magnetic guy on property award I'll call it has to go to Nile chills Donagan who like

one of all the hearts and minds at the us am was coming in as a guy that everybody wanted to watch and i mean just very watchable golfer like i think everybody on property was just we kept you kept looking and you know we all get the the t-sheet and like the matches and uh you know we're kind of comparing notes like who you want to go watch i think i'll go watch these guys for a while like eventually you find your way back to niles group it seemed like in every session because the noise is coming from there yeah it's just really hard to be on the other side of Core's, like, I don't know, I miss it. Yeah, I just need to go over there.

Weirdly, I had a similar feeling about Connor, Connor Graham, Connor Graham, like really, kind of, kind of had some Spencer Levine. Oh, my God, that's spot on. And could not keep his shirt tucked in. You know, like, a little twitchy, a little language going on. No respect for the game. Like, if an American did that, that have been.

I heard from a bunch of people that were like, you know, yeah, he's kind of a, he's kind of a jerk, but in like a really lovable kind of way and he's just, it generates so much more speed than he would think from a tiny frame. He's fun to watch. A couple, I'm watching him hit shots on 16, you're like, man, can you get it there, buddy? Like, you're kind of a little,

yes, you can, you flush it. He dukes it, yeah. He was watching him, you know, going from 23 at the old course. He played Stu in, uh, in single Stuart Haggastad, who's 6, 7, probably. 36, 4, 6.

No. I was, dude, that's, that's, that's, Okay, six, four, whatever, he's tall. Connor was 16 years old at the time, and, like, little guy, like, I kept saying he looked like a golden retriever puppy. Like, you know, when the retriever puppies have, like, six, five, huge feet. All right, we'll mean the middle. When retriever puppies have, like, the huge feet, they're kind of, like, don't really know how their legs all work.

Like, that's Connor Graham, just twitching out against big stew. Sue obviously beat him because he wins every single match, but seeing Connor this year around, like filling out a little bit mashing the golf ball it's kind of coming into his own it's just it was really fun really fun all right next award um let's do uh best audio moment of the week what's your best audio moment of the week that's got it's got to that's got to be uh bobby clamp it just that's shit my so all right time for another story of the week it was just interactions like this all yeah it's this is the whole week uh i don't know we were going to to put a name on this one this is i want to say up front of this bobby clavitt does not oh sally

anytime right i don't think that's not the point of this story no no it was just just really funny very funny and i'm so glad dj witnessed it to like so i don't have to explain how humiliating this moment was but so i landed about a couple hours before you guys did on friday and i was like i'll wait for you guys at the airport i went got lunch at woodie's at monroe airport it's awesome maybe the best airport restaurant in the country you sit out you watch the planes come in and i'm sitting there getting some work done and bobby clamping and and somebody's with come and sit the table right next to me and it's like i got nostalgic feelings about a lot of things in golf like he was one of the voices i heard on television as a kid

when i got into the game and like you hear that voice and you're just like man this is just wild he's sitting here doing plane spotting and and talking about him and he's looking up all the tail number yeah he was he was yeah talking about he's you know you know talk about his tc would have loved it he would have sat down and had a great conversation with him and i'm Weirdly enough, like when I'm scrolling, I was scrolling Instagram when I was sitting there in a clip that Bobby Cleve, it was narrating, pops up on my Instagram of Bradley Hughes.

And I'm like, dude, what are the, like, seriously, what are the chances of this right here? And we kept running into it. We kept seeing him the whole rest of the week, and we're walking down the 12th fairway on Saturday afternoon. And we just kept running to him. I was like, I'm going to say hi to him. And I was getting ready.

Hey, Bobby, I'm Chris Sond. I do the No Laying Up podcast. And he goes, oh, okay. and like a really nice, I thought we were getting ready to have a conversation. And then within- It always starts to keep the conversation going. It just walks away.

It starts filming, filming golf shop. I'm like, I was actually sitting next to you. And he's gone. And he's like, he's filming. And he goes, this is, look at where Justin Coyven drove this fall. Just filming on his phone, like, walking up to these golfers. I didn't say the wrong name there. He says Justin Kwebitt.

His first name is Jackson. And I'm like still trying to tell the story of sitting next to him at Woody's and how, you know, whatever. It was a dumb story. I know that. But it was so humiliated. DJ's just sitting there with shock on his face. It's all I wanted to use delete me. Yeah.

No, like a podcast. Yeah, that's a cool man. Oh, no, it wasn't. He didn't say it. No. We were talking about that. I think that's where we started talking about awards. I was like, that's the biggest cool man.

That was the biggest cool man. That was the biggest cool. man of the week yeah that's cool anyways oh okay i thought it was gonna be like you know we were gonna talk about it for a second uh and it was just i'm sorry to air you out bobby it was just a very funny moment still have an open invite to come on the pod pull us your best audio that probably that was really up there man i i would say there was one british guy unnamed british guy i apologize in advance for bad british uh accent but uh we're talking about like capturing the vibe and and And what is this event all about?

And this guy was like talking to his wife or whoever he was there with as they're kind of walking out. And he just kind of burst out as he's like trying to like explain why it's so good. I think she was kind of like, well, why is this different than like, you know, most events or what? And he goes, it's just civilized. And I just, I really captured it for me. I think that's just the offense just civilized. I thought that was pretty good. Do you have one?

I don't know if I have an audio moment. Every time I hear those seals or CIOs out there, it sounds like they're doing the, for sure, my O face. Office face. Oh, oh, oh. Other one would be DJ's sound on 14T. God, some of the, I mean, it's just, you know how into the long irons I am.

Yeah. You know, these guys just getting these. like murderous driving irons out there and just hitting these high cut missiles which is great uh i'll go tc i know i'm i'm maybe stepping here because you you really teed me up for this one but best house on the property i think has to go to your guys sam reeves the great man sam raves i mean just it took me i don't know 15 seconds to even spot what house you guys were talking about because this thing is so camouflaged by trees it's up at the both at the top of a hill but also you can't see it at all because it's just covered by these sites you're

Shrouted. God, it's so cool. It's up there overlooking the eighth green, which is like the coolest green on the property. And it's just that's a, you know, a lot of people I think when they they see like, oh, if I ever made it, like, well, this is what my house would look like. There's a lot of those houses in Pebble Beach. That's only people that don't realize a house like this exists. I'm pretty sure. It gets the coolest dwelling in the world. There's a lot of AI like mansions dotting the Monterey Peninsula that like it just I can't imagine a real human being. lives in any of these places that house is like oh my god that signed me up for that lifetime contract well and then you yeah and then mr. Reeves is like the biggest legendary figure around here too and it's yeah just so really really cool layer so that's an easy one uh what's the best shot you guys saw this week i i'll i'll take it you mentioned it earlier and i i committed to this when he hit it i probably maybe saw a better one today but j summies dude that was on my list and hit to the back right pin on 17

with that match coming down the stretch in singles yesterday afternoon. Like we just got, I mean, that weather and that setting and that scene, like the whole team is sitting there behind the bunker on 17. And I just will remember that shot for a long time.

Kind of laid back too far off the tee. And there's just so much trouble around that green. We saw if you come up short on that false front, it rolls all way back into the water, lost a whole night night. And he ended up missing the put, but he hit this feathery fade. to that right pin with seven iron

and all that setting and the seals making the noise I just remember that for a long time. Yeah, I'm with you there. This is two shots or I guess four shots really but Connor Graham and and Mason Howell going two to two with a tied match. You know, it's the balance is like it's still kind of hanging in the balance a little bit.

It's an early match. They were like third off, I think, or third or fourth. And so it was kind of still like it could technically sort of sway either way. Match is tied on the 16th. T, they both stuff it at 16, which was probably playing 215, 212 today from

that up T box. And they go to two, like matching deuses at the, you know, coolest hole in the world. Deuce coin. That was, that's kind of the ultimate deuce coin, like, like you mentioned. But that's up there. Other nominees, sorry, other nominee that would have also Jackson Cliven,

two different Albatross shots within an eight-hole stretch. Near Albatross number two. His second, his albatross shot. Oh, I see. I see. You know, it's the second on the par five, second hole to tap in Eagle Range. And the first he hit on the ninth hole in that match was just absurd.

I would say begrudgingly, Lassos shot at a nine today. He was the only guy to hold the green to that front right spot. A lot of guys were going long or, you know, going in the bunker. Most guys weren't even going for it on a 200. 83 yard par four that was down, that was playing slightly downwind. And she steps up after a long, long delay and just stripes one.

And we'll get to more of him here in a sec. But what about a big stews putt? You were right there for that one. Yeah. I mean, you know, really, I mean,

the fog had rolled it. So it was so sunny. Like, you know, yesterday. And then today was even sunny. We woke up. There's no marine layer this morning.

And it's just a brilliant day. And it's still. 67, 68 degrees civilized day. And then I walked down, you know, fog starts rolling in. I'm on 13, 14, and then get to 15 and like, we're on 15T

when I walked to 15T. Like, it's a 130 yard hole. You couldn't see the green. And so I sat there for a while. Stu comes up and he knows it's like, all right, if I make birdie, If I win this hole, we at least get to 13 points and we retain the cup. And you know, you know, Stu's like, Stu wants to be the guy.

Yeah, you know, we all do, right? And he gets up and, and hits it just inside of the guy who's playing. And sure enough, just completely buries the put. I mean, probably 20 feet down the hill and no doubts it. And it was, you know, you got to just tip your cap to him, man. Should we have this due conversation? you're a massive stew fan i just i i appreciate what he's doing i think there's a lot of people who are uh understand like i don't think he pretends to be some working class hero i i guess is what i'm

what i'm saying maybe people would argue maybe so maybe so maybe not working class hero but white collar hero sure i i don't know if he martyrs himself quite to the degree that maybe he gets uh he gets put on online but again i don't have a ton of first-hand impression of the guy. I know what he was like when we spent time with him in 2023, and he was super nice. He was very, very cordial. He was great.

He was funny. He was good to get along with. He plays great golf. I understand he, you know, it's got a good situation going. You know, I think some people don't like that. But like, what do you want him to do, man? He's a hell of a player. Yeah, he's a hell of a player.

He's got a good hand that he's playing. I don't know what to say. I don't mind the privilege. I don't mind Stu. I don't mind it. I think it's better than former pros. Like he just, yeah, he never turned pro. He's a professional golfer.

Which real quick, on that note. Your boy. Yeah. I want to, I want to just vehemently, you know, get this on the record that. Stewart Graham. Yeah, Stuart. Yeah. Yeah.

Stuart, uh, Stuart, uh, Stuart Graham. Is that how you pronounce it? Yeah. Yeah. Stuart, Stuart Graham. Uh, he was, he played like a, he played a full challenge tour schedule in 20, 23 hotel planner yeah sorry hotel planner tour and then and then a lot of mini tour events last year as a pro hung up his pro shingle last october or november and immediately got his amateur status back and he's

playing the walker cup this year like that that to me is the antithesis of what this event is about i i agree yeah at least make these guys grovel and work for it for five years to like if you've played at least four or five years of you should at least have to wait for as long as you've been a pro all right you played seven years a pro you got to wait seven years i could not agree more um i'm gonna i'm gonna add an award to this um i'm gonna go for the the best future the best future is with american golf right now launched in 2023 the u.s national development program is the united states first unified pathway designed to guide top junior players all the way to the highest levels of the sport

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the USAGA award over 100 grants to junior golfers in need, helping cover the cost of coaching, travel, tournaments, and more. Talent is everywhere, an opportunity should be to learn more at usGA.org slash us NDP. I heard some awesome stories about that this week. We're going to be doing some profiling of that at some point in the future as well. And just stories of junior golfers that are getting to play on the AJGA in those circuits that didn't have the means necessarily do it and have earned status and exemptions

into future tournaments because of how well they. they've played and just really cool under the radar thing that the USGA is doing and we want to give a shout out for that can i have the like another dog uh award just i know we talked nile or energy i was so impressed with mason howell yeah i was going to say the same this week he's he's a what rising senior in high school uh yeah i think he's going to 18 so going to jose am next year and and he's he's got it man he's really really good yeah no he was he was he was super fun to watch today too is that match came down to the wire um i got a fashionista award yeah i'm to give to wolfe our guy michael wolf uh dear dear friend of all of ours he would be he made up

a big chunk of their walker cup video that we did which is on youtube if you haven't seen that yet from the 2023 walker cup is kind of a look back in a you know first person or you know kind of an embedded account of a lot of the things that we're talking about uh but wolfie's uh wife pointed out first thing we's doctor wolfie when we saw we saw them uh cypress for the opening ceremony the flag raising ceremony she goes oh my god he's he's so high in the hog about his appearance at this video did you notice he's wearing the same shirt today that he's that he's wearing at the video i just i thought that was really fun and for them for the two of them to even show up this week on the all the sick things in the way of Alabama football losing last weekend just

put on a brave face and try to yeah try to have a good time what's the most aggressive logo bingo you guys saw i saw maybe a nine or ten year old kid that had made stone shinnock quaker ridge and sabonic on at the same time at the same time like to get four logos on even hard to do you got to have a vest you got to have the sleeve logo on a polo shorts uh i think he had either shorts no socks for him a belt usually and then and then a hat i want to give gosh what should this award be called. Kind of the like we couldn't do it without you sort of award goes to whoever invented needlepoint. I think whoever that was, I just, I don't know that they could have this event without that person. I think both smathers and Branson. So much needlepoint out there. How do you feel

about the double logos? Like I am so obviously from, you know, seminar. Ask me about this place. or whatever. I saw a lot of the, like, big hat logo, big shirt logo with a belt, all the same logos. That's hostile, I feel like. I've been guilty of it. Sure. Just because it's like, you know, I got, I got Tim McQuada belt and hat.

Before I even realized that I got two of them on, I'm not trying to do it. But I don't think that's a lot. You would have to wear 14 or 15 different logos just to cover his domestic members. I just don't think anybody, I don't think anybody who's doing that at the Walker Cup at Cypress point is doing it. It's trying to flex. I know. I don't think anybody's doing it on accident. I think it's the opposite, T.C.

I think people are packing a bag and they're choosing what to wear. Or they're almost doing it. You go to hit balls and you accidentally have two on it. Or they're almost doing it out of a defensive posture of, you know, I know I'm going to see some of my, some of my seminal folks. I have to read. I know I'm going to see my, my Chicago golf guys. Yeah. That sort of thing.

Gang colors. Yeah. Who's the, who's the biggest villain of the tournament or perhaps the future? Oh, Michael Assesson, a thousand percent. I mean. Both, I think both teams, like equally heard it from both teams. We heard that there was, like, just, I know that he, he laid down his putter. Did the JT.

On the green, the, you know, the JT. Will you apologize for this? JT's poison in the youth. For sure. So I saw a miss. Never, but never. I saw him miss, I think, two, three footers today. He missed a two and a half three footer yesterday.

So like he missed some short putts It wasn't an egregious like you know Six inch put and it got to the point where I think the The rules official said something to him And said hey man like that's not sporting That's not what this competition is all about On the spirit of the Walker Cup It's civilized man

You know there's there was You know very Some off record stories Some substantiated stuff of some tension within The US team with him and just him and Jay Summi played played together and somebody's a you know seems like a nice nice kid from Oklahoma just kind of a you know big big farm boy and the two of that like I think Lassasso was just absolutely he was just a total menace all week to anybody that anyone anybody that he encountered whether

it was a rules official or an assistant captain or one of his teammates or an opponent or whomever so it's I he kind of like being a choice in person he he reminded me a lot of a P yeah of Patrick Reed yeah but with like high energy yeah you know P's usually like keeping a pretty low profile I feel like or he's like a low boil there's like his Lassaso and again I you know none of us know him but I mean you see him from afar and he's like he's like he's pretty turned up he he's like a he's like an Ole Miss like you know frat guy on Celsius energy

Celsius no breakfast on four low close yeah just a lot of anecdotes out there this week so we'll see we'll see how that

translates here into the future his move is sick it's so crazy so crazy God he's got just power power in the lower half too

like it's like serious legs he's in really driving that swing he's got a lot of four strength I've followed him for a while today

But also, like, his back might, like, he might have a nuclear weapon strapped to his, like, L3 and L4, you know? What's the most surprising cameo? I was thinking about this. I feel like we've named a lot of them. Powell Gasol was one that I was just not expecting to see. I know he guys probably lives in the area, but I didn't know that. He was out at the Solheim Cup. Yeah, he's been a golf, he's been at Pebble, you know, we've seen him at Pebble a couple times.

So that wasn't as, it wasn't as surprising to me. I'm trying to think who else Brad Dardy I don't really know if I know the connection there That was that was a random one Okay that is a random one Pat Pat the Bat Or Project Pat, Pat Hurst

I think I saw I'm pretty sure I saw her Julie Inxer was up there Ricky Barnes That was a surprising one Maybe that was an homage to Sali getting cool man Yeah that's true Fritz Wall It's a deep cut

I mean you mentioned Tom Friedman I didn't that coming for sure he's remember how about that um jack had a bunch list that i'll see if i can pull it up yeah w w certainly yeah yeah condi yeah i think that was expected though she did some of the flyover videos i think so he spotted jerry pate house sutton ian poulter bryson de chamboady pepper julie ingster jerry pate the volcano fred brittley as neil continues to to call him.

That's Steve Fade. Jason Gore, Bryce Holder, Ricky Barnes, Matt Cochard, Mike McCoy, Fred Perpaul. It's supposed to be Bryce and Molder. Bryce Holder? I don't know.

Maybe there's a Bryce. Condolee's Rice. Eddie Q. Brad Doherty and Jimmy Dunn. Some of the names out there. A lot, you know, just,

yeah, a lot of people. I'm like, oh, I played golf with that guy four years ago. Yeah. Hey,

you were really. Caddy, you know, catty for me. Yeah, it was a lot of tour, a lot of past tourist sauce, Sherpas,

that type of thing. Just, yeah, really fun kind of blast from the past run-ins. T.C., what's the... Give me the... How should we phrase this? Biggest, what if? What should they do to Cyprus Award?

We were standing by 18. I kind of rock my world. Well, I think, A, I think they should put a, you know, a winter green over right of 16 green. I always play it too short. They did the... No, I was shocked.

You'd never heard... seen the rainer plans for a suspension bridge. That would have gotten duff by winter storms, but out on the rocks, probably 70, 80 yards beyond where the current 18th T is. Can you imagine trying to fit a T shot

in that little gap from back there? Would have been a what 440, you know, like 420, 440 yard par 4? Persemin driver out there across the suspension bridge. Just trying to squeeze a little cut over the tree

but get it to stop. Yeah. That's crazy. Anything else? Any other good overheards? Any other, you know, anything like that? Just, I mean, it's a it's one of those you'd have to just have the mics rolling constantly, I feel like. I got a good, uh, Henry, a follower

of ours asked a great question. He said, do the W hats count as big letter hats? I mean, objectively, yes. I do have big letters on them. They predate this big letter movement. So I think we can exempt them. Or they're the, they don't predated. They were the original.

Right. That's, you know, it's especially with G4 being, you know, Peter Millar being sponsors of, of the USGA and of this event. I'm going to give it a, it's a total mistrial. Throw it out. Yeah. I think we'll, well, I'm willing to exempt it. I think it's fine because it's only one letter too. Like that could have been a different trend, you know.

T.C., you had a good game. here the stock game yeah to give you a hundred a hundred shares of stock that you got to divvy up between the players that we watched this week as far as going forward who's going to do the most in in the pro game how are you uh how you divving up your uh hundred points uh i would probably do 50 on jackson coiven give me 30 on mason howell uh you know i'm trying to i'm trying to create some pro like some generational profit here not just not just not just not just just dabble. T.C's moving the sliders over to aggressive on the,

on the, on the, uh, on the, uh, on the, uh, some,

uh, some Ethan Fang and some, and some, and some stout in there. I think stout, stout's got a real, was grown up. Yeah.

Uh, I just liked watching. No, GBI and I here. No, you're no international ETLs here. Tyler Stewart Grant can, I'm going to go back in the game.

Well, he can actually be my advisor. He'll be my portfolio manager. Uh, Tyler Weber. is probably the, Tyler and Nile were probably the two that stuck out on that front. Yeah, a good, real solid game.

Anybody, I mean, does that line up? I don't take 51 on Jackson Coyven so I can claim him on that one. How and Stout were the ones that, Ethan Fang was, maybe not his best week. Maybe I just didn't see his best moments.

He did not jump off the page to me necessarily. He played really, really well. I'm looking at he won five and four today, so it's not like he had a bad week, but he just I was just really liked his I don't know just his energy and he just seemed like he was at peace with like man he's just he knows who he is he's got good tempo it's just a very very classy game I think I don't a weird week for Ben James number two ranks Aminer in the world I know he didn't love his swing like they're kind of hiding him a little bit he didn't play it didn't play all that much he ended up winning in the singles match today but that was that was one guy you know playing a second Walker Cup he played in St. Andrews as well Will there be a major champion that emerged from this Walker Cup? Say yes.

It's a fun game. I think out of those those U.S. guys, I think there's one in there. I truly think we're in an era where you got to, one of those guys got to beat Scotty Schaeffler in a major. I think it'd be coven if there is one. But also, we don't know kind of what the ceilings for somebody like Proud or Mason Howl might. Have you talked to Luke Poulter yet? Yeah. I didn't get to watch a ton of him

I don't know if you guys saw probably more than I did but saw him in a couple times when I was sitting at one of the holes He's kind of a unit He is definitely a unit Yeah I don't know what his record ended up being But he was holding his own

More than holding his own when I saw him out there Well he singles he won his foursoms match today He lost three and two to Mason Howl in singles yesterday And he won so he was two and two He played all four sessions won both foursomes and lost both singles. He's not like a NEPO baby. Like he's a real player.

I mean, it's like it is nuts when you start thinking about it. It's a little bit of a hoy guard. So like what are the odds that both of them would be in the line for the rider cup? That's crazy. But it is it's nuts that like the most dramatic, one of the most dramatic European rider coppers ever. It's like your son's that good. Like that's of all the GB&I kids that are playing golf.

That's crazy. I know there's a little bit of politicking that goes into it probably. but yeah to show up and play well and hold your own playing well in college golf you know it's like a yeah it's a real game he play well the heavy heart today after florida lost to south florida last that's true exactly exactly uh i would say if i was going to bet on one of these guys in life i'd say it probably be nile i'd say haggistad haggistair i think he's already it's already retired on a go forward got it yeah uh the nile thing's really fun man i've yeah yeah wish him nothing but Walked a few holes with him.

Continued success. On Saturday, like he was sitting the first session and they just let the guys that aren't playing in that session just go out and play behind the matches. Play behind the matches. And, yeah, just a normal kid.

We're really eloquent. And, hey, just tell people, people care about, people give a shit about him. You guys want to do the five senses game? We'd love to. This is a big Randy game, one of our favorites,

So when Randy goes on vacation, him and his wife like to play the five senses game. So what was your favorite smell from the vacation, favorite sight, favorite taste, favorite sound, and favorite feel. We can do these in any order. So Saul, you go first, wherever you want to start. Every now and then again, smell-wise, you would get a whiff of something that died down there in the bay. It got stinky. It was overwhelming. Very ammonia type of smell.

We couldn't tell if that was just G.B. and I in the afternoon or if that was something that died down there on the beach. But that was-called for it's not civilized. laughed a lot harder when I said it was it was funny um that's definitely the the smell i'll take with me tc smell would be i'm i'm sure i'm going where you're going here would just be the the uh ad astra oh the ad astra might get some run in the census games the bakery down in monterey yeah you you walk in there it's it's my favorite bakery in the united states uh i've only been to tartine in san Francisco once. But this place, we went there three days in a row. We should probably go there morning to just make it a four for four. Of course. But you walk in there and they've got this

breakfast sandwich that they got a couple of breakfast sandwiches, but they got this breakfast sandwich with smoked salmon, pickled fennel capers and this unbelievable light cream cheese on it that it's gotten it again three days in a row and playing. to get it tomorrow. A lot of sweets this week, too. Then it's some good sweets there. A lot of sweets. I will go, let me go favorite site.

This was at, you know, they're kind of trying to keep people off of certain spots. And it's, it's a little unclear whether you can go in some spots or not go in other spots or whatever. So 16 green is way back in the corner. There's not a lot of public allowed back there, but it was media access. Like you could get back there and then up to 17T, which I was too nervous to do until today. when it was clear that, like, we actually could go up there. And the first time, when I got up to 17T, I was like, man, 16's really cool,

but looking out as the fog was rolling in at 17 with the stand of trees in the middle of the fairway and that entire cliffside. And then even beyond, like, the coastline down to the south, like, how cool that is was just, I'm like, that's it. That's the coolest site that I have seen on this trip was standing on 17T.

There was so much, like, so much from Saturday night, Saturday evening as the matches were finishing up there on the back nine and the sun was hitting 16 was just like it felt surreal and then when the fog rolled in this evening it just felt like a fever dream out there it was I just can't believe that that land exists that there's a golf course on it that Alastair McKenzie of all people got to design a golf course all in that stretch of land that it's been preserved and taken care of in the way that it is and it hosts a big of it like it was just a lot of confluence of a lot of things on truly one of the most beautiful sites on planet earth and we got to be there for it. just I'm very, very grateful. Any other sites? I'm going to give a shout to my guy, OTP Lefty. Jason Terrell, he was in a really awful car accident last year. And to see him out and about and moving around. Thriven at the hay.

Yeah, it was just, and out on the golf, you know, out at at Cyprus, you know, walking a little bit and riding around on the scooter a little bit, just seeing him upright was, was cool. That's a good one. Uh, favorites. I'll go favorite feel. Uh, I had to think about this one for a while. You could go with some of the, the cashmere and the merch, the merch 10, obviously. Uh, but I will go with very specifically the sticks out of my head, uh, this morning after lunch or this kind of afternoon after lunch. You know, we're, you're outside all morning. And then you go inside to have lunch and we're sitting there for a while and chopping it up and having a great conversation. And it gets a little sticky, stuffy, kind of in the, you know, hospitality type of tents. And the first walk back outside was just like, oh, my God, it's the brightest sunshine you've ever seen,

but it's also cool ocean air. I'm like, it feels like you're just walking into an air-conditioned room when you step outside almost. Yeah, I'm like, that's, that is cool. That's why you come. So that was mine. And being comfortable, like, you can wear short sleeves if you want or you can wear long sleeves and not be too hot.

Like you'd be comfortable in either one is just a, oh, I had the civilized sweater over the shoulders tied around my neck today. A lot of that. I thought if I was ever going to do that, that was the place. Any other feels? The feeling of when that fog rolled in, too. It got a little cooler and it's got a little bit more moist. That was a really special one.

Taste, there was a lot. We had a lot of sweets. They had incredible donuts in the hospitality. I had so much sweets this morning that I couldn't even partake. Couldn't even do it. Anything else from that game? Are you guys ready to touch on? I'll shout, you know what?

I'll shout out Tiger's nachos at the hay. You know, obviously Ad Astra punches above its weights, as you said. That nacho dish is pretty substantial. It's really good. It's $42, but it's really good. God, Tiger's the best. Which we might need to sell one more ad here to help pay for our meal there at the hay last night. But we didn't get to watch a lot about other golf.

If you can't tell from our experience this past week, we obviously saw the highlights of Rory L. McEl McElroy. I don't know what his middle name is. Roy McElroy at the Irish Open. Eagle, the 72nd hold, end up in a playoff with Joachim. I assume Neil would like this guy's name. He thinks this is what Joachimann's name is Joachim Lagergrin. Just a hell of a scene, man.

I mean, look, K Club, far from our favorite golf course in the world, but an incredible location to get a ton of people from Dublin in there to watch golf. And like, when the Eagle Putt went in, like the Zoom ins, they were doing on like father and son that were just going ape shit and all the kids there that were just going completely nuts with with uh rory's moment there and getting to win went at home in front of that home crowd had to be a heck of a special experience rory rory daniel mackerel had to look hard i wouldn't have done that one dumb question what is what's the k and k club hmm not a dumb question not a dumb question don't know i mean it is like a for you know

This was at Royal County down last year, an incredible link's golf course in Northern Ireland, and Rory didn't win. And now he goes to the soft inland golf course in Dublin. And he does win. It is like a step backwards, I think, for the event. But the same time, you can't look at that scene and be like, oh, this is a bad thing.

I hate this. It's a pretty tough look, too, for the Irish Open, you know, in the wake of these national opens, getting recognized for automatic bids to the Masters, the Irish Open, not getting one. Yeah. Uh, the Kildare hotel and golf club, shortened to the K club. Yeah.

K club. Shout out to Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens, Nolan Ryan. Paul Skeens. Paul skeins, yeah. Uh, Kepka shot 80 on Friday and missed the cut as well. Um, bizarre. It just not a fun situation that's going on there. He lost a Martin trainer.

Yeah, that's just never on, just on Friday. I think Martin trainer. The only other thing I had this week, D.C. Don Raith. throughout the first pitch of the Yankees game promoting the Rider Cup. That was just a, that was an image that came across my desk and I had a great laugh. I heard he bounced it. Really? I didn't get to see the video.

If someone out on the, out on the grounds at Cyprus today was talking about it, yeah, I heard he bounced it. I don't know. I'm just passing that along. I haven't verified that yet. So apologies to Don, if not. The last Don. Looking ahead, there's the pro core on the PJ tour this week.

A lot of the U.S. Rider Cup team will be there. I think you have some breaking news on that front as well. You can report. do I? Is there somebody else that's going to be attending that we were wondering? Oh yeah, Bryson's going to be there on Tuesday

your friend Bryson that you talked to today. I was like, hey, you want to go to Napa? He's like, yeah, I'm going to go up I think Tuesday. Which is sweet. Also, we didn't say this up front and I'm sure you guys agree, but good on Bryson for being out at the Walker Cup.

It doesn't have to be out there. Doesn't have to be out there in his Crusher's gear either. Like literally he might have to be out there in his crusher's gear. I guess he probably does. That is probably like in all public appearances. sort of thing. He stood there for,

he must have been up there for an hour and just watching with like childlike amazement of he, of, he went down on the lower T-box and he was looking out and it was, it wasn't, it wasn't bullshit.

It was a sincere appreciation for the place and the event. It was cool. I mean, it was, it's obviously meant a lot to the team and, and a lot of those guys as well. So, BMW PGA championship on the DP World Tour,

LPGA. That's BDE. flagship effect LPGA is in Cincinnati this week and then the stretch runs kicking off here for the Corn Ferry Tour Nashville, Columbus, Oklahoma and the Tour Championship. Guys, that was a lot of expenditure of energy here

and I'm not going to lie, I'm running on E here as we're getting to wrap here. We shout to our editor, Phil, who's staying up late tonight as well to cut this up. Anything else before we wrap? I just feel like I've been so overly my senses have just been overworked for the last 48 hours straight

of, of, it's just been sensory overload and I'm, I'm completely like you said, on E, because like every, every scene has just been, there were so many moments here's like, is this, is this real? Like, is this place real? I feel like I was walking around in a, in a, you know, like a good fog. Yeah. The last two days. Yeah. I know, you said it a couple times, but

Like, I guess I know the tickets are limited. I know it's not everybody who wants to get on site can get on site, and I feel very lucky that we were able to do it. And it's fun to do it with you guys. You know, it's fun to do it as a group and walk around and watch golf. It's fun to see all the other media that's out there that we know, and Shackleford and Andy and Charlie, who we're staying with. And all of those guys, it's fun to meet everybody who came up and said hello.

Everybody was great and a lot of appreciative fans out there saying a lot of nice things. and so it's just an awesome, awesome week. I would say go, yeah, like make it a bucket list thing. Go just enter the lottery. Just try to go to one. And you can feel free to roll your eyes at this as they do. They did have an ad on this very here podcast, but just seems like the USGA has seriously good momentum going right now.

And like just going to a venue like this and bringing a tournament like this. And I hope people had a great time watching it on television. It sounds like the coverage was relatively good. The drone shots were really good, capturing some really cool moments. And Bones was out there. working his tail off like it was just yeah it was just a gosh it was just a really really special weekend and i'm very very glad we came and if you can't get like if you don't win the lottery for the walker cup enter the lottery for the curtis cup yeah because it's the next one's at

belair next year and they go to royal dornic oh my god then they go to national golf links of america in 2030 jesus they go to pine valley in 2034 so that that lineup's just as good yeah that's a very good point tc all right that's going to wrap us thanks so much for tuning in everyone we'll be back we got some couple more podcasts coming out this week we'll have one sunday night after the pro core and the bmw pga as well some more fun rider cup stuff heading up into that a lot of good content uh to come in the coming weeks so go watch their uh old course video if you haven't yet if you want some more walker cup stuff yeah we have a great video the dj and his his boys put together uh from the rocker cup at st andrews and it's it's a team of bad boys

It's worth your... That was all the boys. Very much worth your time. So that's going to give it a wrap. Let's go to bed. Good night. Thank you, everyone. Cheers.