No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1072: Justin Hueber on reinstated ams + Weekly Recap

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

Soly, TC, and DJ bring on former NLU Young Hitter Justin Hueber to discuss his run at the USGA Mid-Am and the debate surrounding former professional golfers regaining their amateur status.  We also had some fun with random stats from the 2025 PGA Tour Season, recap Michael Kim’s win on the DP World Tour, the LPGA washout in Arkansas, and the KFT tournament in Columbus.  Then it’s on to a back nine where we discuss a few bits of pre-Ryder Cup chatter from Bryson and Rory, the cancellation of the 2026 Sentry, the Masters addition of Amazon Prime to their broadcast partners, and more. Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nolayingup.com/esf⁠⁠⁠⁠ Support our Sponsors: Titleist The Stack Whoop If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Nest⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠nolayingup.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club today. Yeah, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Better than most! Expect anything different? Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast. Got a four manner to start.

Solly here in a matching shirt, Mr. DJ Pi. Hello, Pi, man. Hello, Soli. Great to be with you. I'm, I'm buzzing for tonight, man. No, no PJ tour event, but a ton of shit to talk about. We got our man here wearing a cowboy hat. He's gone country. I just, this is going to be a great show. I could feel it. The man you're referring to is US Midam quarter finalist Justin Huber. Hello, Justin. How are you? Guys, great to be with you tonight. This is what a treat this is. Got wearing the tea gift this week.

So haven't been able to take it off yet, just riding the high right now. T.C. is here. Hello, as well. T.C. Hello. How are you? Hello. I'm just, you know, we got a new new sheriff in these amateur streets. I love seeing it.

Maybe a corrupt sheriff, according to all of my mentions on the everything half this week. I was getting text. Like, did you see how mad people are about Huber playing in the mid-am? They're mad as well, it's solid. We're going to cover that. We're going to get to that before we do. There was quite a finish earlier this morning in France.

Michael Kim carded a bogey-free 65 to break away from a crowded leaderboard and win on the DP World Tour. Congrats to Michael Kim. Michel Kim. A contributor to our content for a long time. And we're very happy for him. Before we dive into his equipment setup, Michael led a pretty cool equipment. trend on the final leaderboard. Each player in the top three played a ProV1X golf ball,

a GT2 or GT3 driver, T100 irons, and SM10 wedges. Michael's bag starts with his ProB1X golf ball. He tends to be on the lower spin side, so the ProV1X gives him more spin in a long game and more peak height compared to the ProV1. He then moves to his GT2 driver with 11 degrees of lot. That setup helps him get his driver spin in the right window around 2,500 RPMs, helps not to hang back

to try to get the ball up in the air. He lets the club do the work for him. That's something you would learn in a fitting as well. He's got a blended iron set like a lot of us do, starting with the new T-254 iron. He added that to the bag in Memphis. The new T-250s are built for easy launch and forgiveness. I think all of us here on the pot,

are in a T-254 iron ourselves. T-C., you have the 250s all the way down to the 7-iron, 8-iron, I believe, actually? 7-iron. Yeah, I go 8-0. I go 1-50s and 8-9. Honestly, I'm kind of to the point where I'm like, let's just rip it all the way through guys.

Let's just do both knees at once here, man. But even the best players in the world are benefiting from these designs, especially the top end of the bag. He then moves to T-100 for his 5-2 pitching wedge. And for his scoring club, he's got three Voki-Sm-10 wedges, a 52F grind, 56F grind, and a 60L grind. The best players in the world take advantage of custom fitting to get their setup dialed and ready to perform at the highest level.

Go to titles.com to find a fitting near you on the LPGA tour we had a rain out this week actually we'll talk a little bit about that and on the corn fairy tour john van der lond won the uh nationwide children's hospital championship in columbus de jimman to you to kick us up huber he's kind of a flusher huh he's he's always been good i knew his time's coming and nice to see him get it done today so i love it well yeah i think that we got to start with uh with the man in the arena our guy justin huber i woke up uh whatever whatever the first day of match play was he I follow you on Instagram, obviously.

And so I'm like, oh, that's cool. Huber's playing a golf tournament. Like, it looks like the desert or something. Never even put two and two together. I totally forgot. I'm like, oh, my God, this is the U.S. did am. I keep forgetting. I'm like, oh, it's right.

He got his amateur status back. He's messing up, messing up amateurs all over the country now. Can we start there? Can we start there with when did you, when did you formally retire as a professional and apply for reinstatement? And do I have that process? have any credit in this or blame for this? Was it after the Gasparilla?

You have 100% blame. If I was not there, I don't think this would ever happen. But it would have been, I quit. Yeah, I quit playing. And so I had hip surgery on my other hip, my second one in 2022, set out the entire year. I played the Waterloo Open and then I played Q School. And Q School, I missed it by a shot, getting the final stage and said that was it. and then kind of sat on my thumbs for a little bit

trying to figure out what I was going to do went to caddy for you at Gasparille in February of 23 and that night we got back and I could paint the picture on the you made the turn from 18 to 1 and the leaders were on making the turn from 9 to 10 and I went over to get a couple highnoons and I was watching them tee off on 10

and there was like a couple hundred people around the tee box and I had so much adrenaline watching these guys. And I was like, this is a cool thing in the world. Like, I don't know what's happening right now, but I got to do this. So when I got home that night, I don't even remember what time it was, but I'm probably up at like midnight. And I just got on the USDA website and typed in amateur reinstatement and read all the rules and whatnot.

And that's when I filled out my application was the night of the final round at Gasparilla. Thanks to you, Sali. in that tournament that week there was a T that I went back to and took a second ball with me I remember and you were just horrified by this but I was like

you and I should not be playing in the same golf tournament like I brought one in case I was like that is not what I need you to be thinking about right now Hughes when you filled that out like what's the what was that form like what's there any stipulations there was it like hey just get back to you? So essentially,

so got on there, read all the rules about like what you have to do. And the waiting game is subject to the USGA. So I get on there, read all the things and I was like, all right, I'm just going to fill out my application. It may get turned down.

I don't know like what their rules are on how long you play or how much money you make or how many. They do either. Well, there's a little system to it. Through the process, kind of learned a little bit more. But got on there and then just started typing in my career, essentially,

and said, you know, I played Latin America in 15 and 16 and Corn Ferry. Two-time National Open winner. Both Columbia and Mexico. You're not trying to hype up your resume because you know the time's going to be long. I almost did this podcast down in my office where I have everything like hung up in there. But I was like, we're going to get too much flack for that when I see the Colombian Open champ, the next big checks on the wall i don't want to i don't want to troll that hard but anybody listening don't hate the player hate the game in this scenario all right this is

nothing is huber's fault and i and i literally so i i went into it thinking i may just get rejected it may be five years it may be seven and maybe three i had no idea on the time frame and so i fill in everything on the sheet and submit it and it's like all right we'll get back to you once it's reviewed and we'll let you know that it's been reviewed So I wait. I'd have to go back and look at emails, but probably a couple months at least. And then it's like, hey, we've reviewed your thing. We'll have a ruling here shortly.

I'm like, all right, sounds good. And then they came back and said, due to your last major tour event was Omaha in 2021. So that was the kicker. Since I set out with surgery all 22, the Waterloo Open didn't count. And Q School didn't count because they didn't make. any money so it got back open no waterloo it's the greatest event in Iowa but it got backdated to Omaha of 2021 and they gave me three years and it said you'll be reinstated August 15th of 2004 and I'm like all right sweet and I so I talked to Scott Langley and another guy from the USGA

like through this process of like is it is it going to happen what do you think and he's like it'll happen. I just don't know the time frame, whatnot. So then I get to three years and I'm like, this is kind of perfect because I already set out and backdated it to the year I had surgery. So I really only have, what, two year and a half, really from the time that I send in my application. And then, sure enough, I got a text from Langley on the 15th of August that said, feel free to sign up for whatever. And I had had conversations with him beforehand because obviously if I'm getting reinstated, I was going to try to qualify for the U.S. Midam. And I wanted to play the U.S.GA four ball with my little college kid, Justin Hicks.

I shouldn't say little. He's just as big as I am. But with my college kid that I've been mentoring for a while, we wanted to play last year. Like the PJsport player, like, dude, he got a sad. Who's a pro golfers? Comebacks. Yeah. Sorry.

Continue. No, he's, he's a really good player. And it was kind of like the goal was like, hey, qualifiers. There's plenty of qualifiers after I get reinstated. This would be great. We can do it and play early this year. And I went back and forth with the USGA on it. And they're like, you have to be reinstated by the entry deadline. So I couldn't sign up for the US midam. And I missed the US four ball deadline by like four days or something like that. So it couldn't do anything. And mind you, I haven't done anything in the past whatever. It's been two and a half years. I haven't. job, real job. I worked in sales when we moved up here and I traveled Michigan. I'd have to look at my gin, but I played gin, Jen, sorry, my gin. I probably played 15 rounds of golf the first year we moved up here, like very, very little, then took a new job where I'm at now at priority life care. My boss loves golf and he's like, hey, you can play with our capital partners when we

bring them in and whatnot. This would be great. And so I played significantly more rounds of golf with this job but i mean i got three kids and a wife that stays home so i i don't go practice or anything like that like it's i get done with work at 435 i come home i may play on a saturday um that's just kind of how it's been and then when i got reinstated the only thing i did i played the u.s open local qualifier and then i signed up for the u.s midam and i mainly wanted to get my status back, I would say it's 50-50. I wanted to try to play in USCA events, if possible, try to qualify. And I also wanted to play our city tournament, the Fort Wayne City Tournament. It's like weirdly a big deal around here and I never won it as a kid. And I played this year. This is the

first year I was able to do. It was the 100th anniversary. It's like a legit, like probably one of the oldest running city golf tournaments. I didn't win. Justin Hicks won. I showed 30 on the front nine the last day and just cooked everybody. So. but that was it that's i wanted to play club championship at my golf course at sycamore because they don't let pros play and i wanted to play the city tournament and then see if i could qualify for us yeah when is the club championship i lost wow yeah there's some really good players i lost to a kid that went to ball state quentin carpenter and extra holes very eerily similar so the midam went down i think i think backing up just a little bit here because i'm sure there's some

who maybe aren't as well versed in this conversation or haven't thought about this as much who are maybe pulling their hair out about like why would we ever reinstate pros? What is the point of this conversation? I think as far as I understand it, you know, I think the basics are to provide a pathway for people. I mean, similar to what Justin just laid out, but also like club pros are essentially treated the same as, you know, guys who have played on various tours for a couple years, right? I think offering the, you know, somebody who went through a PGM program, technically turned professional, worked at a club, you know, and, you know, now wants to go play the types of events Justin's talking about. Like, I think that's the thing that made the light go off for me of like,

okay, this is a little more complicated than, than it seems. Yeah, there's a lot more layers to it in terms of just like, I didn't, I'm not, I didn't try to get my amateur status back because I felt like a held an advantage over everybody and was like I'm going to go win everything now I'm going to play the masters now I like that that is obviously the carrot it's like if I played the masters at 40 years old with a full head of gray hair and my little kids walking around in the par three like that would be incredible you were just thought of that I was giddy not not only that I had times this week I mean try and I were texting where our slacks blown up it's like what if like what if he makes a walker cup team like to play a walker cup again next year

There's not going to be another mid-am before the next Walker Cup. Like, what if Huber all of a sudden is just playing the Walker Cup at La Hinch next year? It's incredible. All of it started going through my mind this week. All this scenario started playing out. I was like, is this about to happen? Like, am I going to do this thing? But there is, it golfs a different game because anybody can turn pro.

You could turn pro tomorrow and say, I'm going to be a professional. And so I think it's neat that they let you back. It's not like I signed some massive contract. and was like, I'm playing on the PJ tour for 10 years, like it would be in other sports to come back and play amateur level. It was my quote-unquote job. It didn't work out, you know, whether that was injuries or I just didn't play well enough.

And I wanted to do something else with my life. This gives me an opportunity. I don't want to play the state open. Like, I don't want to play as a pro in the state open every year. Like that makes, that does nothing for me. Because people probably don't know how competitive that is at the professional level. Like your state open. is if you're not practicing and like maintaining a sharp game you can't be

I'm going to go in and like that I don't know that doesn't lure me whatsoever like playing a pro scratch event as the amateur interests me and where I get to play with one of my buddies I did it at Sycamore a couple weeks ago with Mark Blakefield he doesn't play golf anymore but he's my pro I'm the am and it's like the most fun three days of golf you can possibly have and I wanted to be able to do things like that the midam just kind of a little cherry on top that I thought, you know, I'm going to sign up and see if I can get in. And there's a lot to, you know, me just qualifying for the event of how that went down that I don't even know if I've shared with you guys.

But then obviously in the event, too, we can get into all of it. But it's just, it provides us a pathway to play some type of competitive golf, whether that's USGA event or literally the club championship or the four ball scratch match play at the other club that I'm at. It's like, those are fun. I think like well I'd like to I want to do want to get into your week but I think I've seen this I don't remember if we've ever said this out loud I've seen this floated around a lot because I think we get down to the US mid end this year seven of the eight finalists were former professionals the champion in the eventual champion Brandon holts was a former professional as well I think like the overall where I net everything you're saying makes sense where I net out is like the midam has become like the best of the quote unquote failed professionals right like that and that's where I net I net out is like the midam has become like the best of the quote unquote failed professionals right like that and that's where I'm I'm like, I don't know if that's that sexy of a story. Like the mid-am, I thought was a kind of a sexy story of, like,

who is the, you know, above-25 guy who works in insurance that never played pro that is the best amateur player in the country. That's a pretty cool story. So I think everything you're saying makes sense. I just wonder if, like, the mid-am, the U.S. mid-am, should be available to former professionals. Like, that's, I think, the potential question at play here. Like, if you want to go back and play U.S. AM stuff and, like, try to keep up with the college kids, that's that's one thing but like beating up on the guys that uh you know

it sounds a lot like lonto here that's man i wish scotty wasn't at this event very interesting i'd be shocked to see you can't play the midam i'm trying to play the midam i wish they did a full breakdown at the field of how many guys have played professionally and i mean even evan beck i played with him the first two days he he gave it a go um i'm stew Stu's probably the only one that's a big name that has it. I don't know about the Massa Brothers or Cavalier

or whatnot, but... I was going to say, did Cavalier or Jaggling? I don't know about Jagg. Jack was a former pro. Okay, yeah. I feel like that's the weird thing is because like, I don't want

this to sound bad, but like anybody that was pretty good in college that had a chance, turn pro. Like, I feel like the way the world works anymore like no one's not going to give it a shot because there's so many avenues you know 20 years ago or 15 years ago when I turned pro you had the hooters tour and the e-golf tour and it wasn't that sexy of a opportunity but now that latin america gives corn fairy cards

and it's not just relying on cue school there's other avenues everybody that's you know pretty good at golf is going to give it a go so there's a fine line I think my issue isn't so much the guy that was on the GB and I Walker Cup team this year who played a full season on the challenge tour like last like a year and a half ago basically and he's on the Walker Cup team in that same cycle like that to me is a little bit averse or against what the spirit of yeah but but also it's I think amateurism is such a it's a blurred line flawed concept these days anyway of I think like I was talking to Wolfie about it the other day,

back in like the 60s or 70s, like we would be considered pros because we're making money on our, on our, you know, golf skills, you know, not necessarily like ability to get the ball in the hole, but,

you know, we are making money off of golf, essentially. There was a guy here in Fort Wayne that that happened to, Scott Bieri. He was a professional, got his amateur status back,

and then he did a commercial as he was an AM and got paid for the commercial and boom, he yanked his amateur status back. He had to turn pro again. He's not trying to make it on the champion's tour and teaching here at home. But it was like, it was very strict back then. And now that I would say that it is a little blurred.

I know the NIL stuff, people bring that up. But it's an interesting thing now that you can be an amateur and make a couple 100,000 bucks and sponsorship deals and NIL stuff and still be an amateur. When I was a kid, you couldn't take a hole in one prize. like if you won 50K for a whole and one it was like you're out um so do you think the line should be like should there be a i guess going back to your conversation with with scott langley and those guys is like what is the criteria is it hey you had a tour card for for five years in a row you know you got to sit out five years like what how does it work is an objective or is it an

test kind of thing. I think it's more, it's based on how much money you've made and how many events you played. So if you played 300 events and made $3 million, I doubt they're giving you your status back. Highly doubt. Or potentially ever. But I do know, I don't want to speak on specifics, but Blaine Barber is trying to get his back. And granted, he played the PGA tour what it was six, seven years ago and had a decent career, made some good money. And his was at least five years from when he, I think he tried to get reinstated last year, like filled out the application and he got five years. And I mean, John Peterson's another guy that played the tour. And it's really sounds like a judge. They put you in a really weird spot, though. For those years

where you're waiting, you can't play anything. You can only play events that have amateurs and professionals. You can't take your amateur pro shop credit. You can't take a professional check. You just pay to play and you can go play but you get it's interesting literally nothing out of it which is fine but it's like you're you're in a limbo where that's why I didn't play anything I'm like I'm not going to go pay to play a golf tournament for not even getting a couple dozen golf balls or a glove in the pro shop afterwards like

it just likes the tea gifts maybe I got I got to keep figuring out which way to turn but um the best is on the highlight clip of this episode is going to go on Instagram and no one's going to know the context of the hat. Well, go into the actual week itself. What were your expectations coming in? So I'm back up to the qualifier real quick because playing the qualifier, first time doing it, my buddies are like,

hey, this isn't like a Monday. Like, you don't have to go shoot six or seven under. Just go keep it around par and don't do anything. Where'd you play? And how'd you choose where you played? Rock Hollow. It's an hour away. outside it was the only close one and i have flexibility in my work schedule in terms of like

pto but i had already gone out to sunny hana for the u s ham local qualifier which was incredible by the way lost in a playoff at that one to a bunch of kids that were literally half my age i lost a kid that was 15 he was in he was like a freshman in high school and he was so good and i was like oh gosh um and so i picked a close one that i could just do a day trip to and go down there, it was 95 degrees, super hot, hadn't played the course since high school, didn't play a practice round, get out there and it was playing nice. It was four under through 10, kind of cruising, had just made an eagle on 10, par 11 and 12, 3 put 13 for par, and then 3 put 14 for bogey, sitting in the middle of the fairway on a par 515,

blind second shot, wipe a four iron in the pond up by the green, make another bogey. So I'm like running a little hot, look at my phone, check the scoreboard, nobody's under par yet. I'm like, okay, like, nothing stupid, just get it in the house. These guys really are amateurs. Yeah, I was like, that's a good. Way bad. Normally I'd be heading to the parking lot.

But get on 18 and hit my drive and had my good buddy, my neighbor, Cody Cox, catting for me. And it's big dog leg around the pond and hit it out there. I don't know the line. Get up there. And I'm looking for my ball. And I'm looking, like, just through the fairway, it's kind of just rough over there in a couple trees.

and I can't find it. I'm like, oh, my gosh. And I looked at the scores and there were a four and a three already in. So now I'm like, I've got to make a birdie. Find my golf ball like just barely off the fairway, hit it up on the green to make like a 15 foot downhill slider. So to post three under.

So I'm like, all right, hopefully it's good enough. Go and end up another guy post four. I go into a playoff and end up the guy hit a bad wedge shot in the bunker and made a bogey and I made it through in the playoffs. So it wasn't like I waltz through and won my qualifier by like four or five so then it's like prep time for the midam what's your handicap what do you have a hand you said you had a gin what is four and a half right now he's playing off off a six right now yeah sounds like running de young yeah just i saw that plus 1.9 that's tough um

so getting ready for the week i have a golf trip planned the friday and saturday before where we go out to pikewood in west virginia we do it every year right before the pro scratch pretty good mind you yeah and i played like once a week maybe no range time just like you know you hit five balls before you go play and you go play 18 go home um so go out to pikewood friday and saturday before and then come straight back and play the pro scratch at sycamore sunday monday tuesday and then fly out Wednesday morning for Arizona. So I was already long. A lot of golf.

Get out there and expectations. Like, I just wanted to make match play. Like, I just wanted to have a chance and say, I made match play, see what happens. And I texted you this, Sali, I had no business making match play. The guys I was playing with had to be like, this guy could not be a former professional. I hit it so bad. to first go at desert golf it's so uncomfortable like every hole it's fairway five yards rough and then desert but the desert's not like what you see at waste management where you know guys are full swinging it out of there it is cactus and bush and sticky stuff everywhere your ball just finds it i mean i may i bet i hit seven provisionals in the first two rounds of stroke play minimum should have been taking two balls back to the tea all of a sudden i mean fortunately my caddy was there but i was right i went out i I bought two dozen strokes on golf balls when I got out there.

First time, like, paying with a credit card to buy golf balls and I don't know how long. And I'm, like, burning through them. Like, I mean, it's like every other hole. I'm, you know, changing balls out because I got cactus stuck in it. It would appear that you bogied four of your first eight. So I got to tell the story. It was two courses. So you did Trun North first and then.

I played Trun Country Club the first day and then True North the second day. first hole true and country club and i just had the best range warm up that i've like may have ever had and i told my caddy evan riki i said buddy this this is not good i if i hit it good in the range like i'm going to be bad out there first hole iya driver right in the desert find it in a bush take an unplayable drop plugs in the rocky sand stop it out to 80 yards short of the green in the rough hit it over the green back in the collection area and put it in from like 40 feet out of the collection area for bogey and evan beck goes was that a five and i'm like and i had to do the one drop two three four that's five go to the second hole big bender left in the desert again

another unplayable hit it right of the green on the side of this bunker where i'm got like a baseball stance hit a chip to 20 feet cash it for bogey and i'm like i don't know what's going on And I'll just give you a couple more holes on that. So they go to the next hole as a par five, hit three iron off the team. I'm like, I'm just got to get it forward and was able to go for the green with three iron, miss it just short left, got to kind of pitch it over this bunker, bump it in the bunker, hit this like awesome bunker shout out to like seven feet, make it for par. And then Bertie the next hole.

And the guys, I'm one putted every hole so far. Technically zero put on the first hole, just like pouring it in. and truly a new viewer and three put the next hole the par three and then six I hit it to a foot and the guys are like who what are you doing here literally like what this guy

is this guy serious and it was it was like that for two days I'm talking like wipey in the desert unplayables incredible pars I'm getting up and down from jail and making like every 10 footer and I felt kind of bad because Jack Barber

was the other guy in our group who's a really nice player and hit it awesome like evan beck didn't hit a single provisional jack hit one like that was it and i'm reloading on every single t-box like every other t-box probably and i get done and i beat jack i didn't even know it like i just assumed that he beat me by like five and i grinded out the last four holes of stroke play and get up and down on every single one of them making like eight to ten footers for par and get done i'm like hope it's good enough type deal i see evans and Beck the next day on the range and make a joke to him like bet you didn't think you're going to see me here like and it was I would take take that back it was after I won my first

match and he walks up and I was like sorry man like I really don't think you thought you were going to still see me at this alter and he just like he didn't know what to say he just kind of laughed and was like hey yeah but then I get into matchplate and win my first match pretty easily the guy was he was a good player but he was a little nervous i think and kind of handed me some holes and um got through that one and so now i'm like oh shoot like i'm like five guys away from the master's now and it was throat play i'd have no chance and so get to the next morning match and we start off the back nine and i'm getting steamrolled this guy grant smith like couldn't be a nicer dude and he's just not missing a shot and i'm

back to my desert ways and just i mean it's it's ugly it's ugly early and i'm like trying to press it now like i'm hitting drivers when i i punted so many times in stroke play like par five 600 yards i hit three iron three iron nine iron like i was like i just i have to get it forward and on the ground um to be clear you're five down through 12 in this match yeah it was i made the comment walking off three to my dad and my wife they're out there watching i said i am getting steamrolled and they didn't like have anything to say there and yeah yeah they fly out once you made match no they all came out friday before so it was like we were using this as a vacation like from work i was like i'm gonna go out and stay till the next friday no matter what and probably have four

or five days to hang out and then i'm he's playing great like i don't think he's missed a shot hasn't missed a fairway. He's hitting all the greens. And I'm just back and forth. And I get on four, a birdie four. And I'm like, all right, we got to start chipping away. Hit the green on five, lag it up there to probably four and a half feet. He's left in the bunker. No chance. Kind of hits it 30 feet by, misses it. I got a four and a half footer. And I'm like, you got to make this. My horseshoe it, like back to my feet. And now I'm like, all right, well, now you're four down with four to go. You got to win them all. Got a little gift on six. He missed the green right in a bad spot. And I had like 15 feet for birdie win that one. 70 hooks it left in the pond

on the par three and drops at like 40 yards in the rough and hits it up to five feet. And my ball is I'm standing in the bunker and it's Bermuda rough. I didn't know what I wasn't sure what to expect out there. Bermuda Fairway is rough, but bent grass greens. So I was like, this is perfect. I have somewhat of a chance. But I'm in the bunker and grip down. I'm like a foot from the head of my club with a pitching wedge. And my last thought, I could you not, was Ben Griffin got this up and down to win Colonial. You can get this up and down.

Like audibly said it to myself and was able to bump it up there to like tap in. He gave me the put. And then I made a disgusting birdie on eight out of the desert again, hit a nine iron from the sandy rocks to like four feet. and then went to nine and hit another good shot in there to probably 10 feet and made it. And my adrenaline at that moment was like greater than anything

I experienced in professional golf. I told my wife, I could dunk on 12 feet right now. Like my neck, my heart was pulsing through my neck. I'm like, I've never been this excited. Like I don't know what this is,

but I like this. This is really fun. Huber, at that point, I was texting with, I was texting with Graham and Sean Martin. And I was like, he was dormant or he the other guy was dormant

and he's like no tc Sean said no tc that's wrong you can't be dormy with the thing of a playoff I think yeah it's just extra holes or whatever is just yeah it's just if if if the win is out of the equation for the other person yeah I was I was just I had to win them all

and then was able to get him he made an incredible like bogey on one I thought he had it left first drive out of play all day and he was able to hit it backwards in the fairway I leapt out a four footer for par and I'm like oh no like this can't happen again that was to win the match

and go to two he hits it left in the desert again had two bad drives in the first time all day and I'm I've been left on two twice already and it's not good I'm unplayable both times and he's like nice over there like just left of the cart path somehow full like clear swing and he hits it short of the green

had to chip it because there were sprinkler heads and missed like a six footer for par and I'm two putted and was able to win and now I'm like four guys left like this is this is weirdly happening and I don't know what to do about it and then played a good buddy of mine Michael Budikavali in the afternoon match and he he was I was getting text like what is this circa Columbia 2016 like you versus Buddha again like two Latin American Hall of Famers is why I getting all these texts like this is a battle of Mexico all over again um and I finally played nice like it was the first 18 holes that I played like good golf and kept it in play and now I'm like encouraged I'm like if we do this again like wait a second now dad might be back

I don't want to say it but I might be back um and then yeah I you bring starts to move and after i won that i realized that i was exempt into next year um which was huge and i was like coming to wisconsin it's a win it's a win of a week already um and then yeah i played the eventual champion the next day and played really solid i didn't have a whole over par until 14 and just kind of was like i'm going to stick to the game plan seem like a lot of pars right i did and i hit I hit a lot of nice putts. He made some bogeys early. I had some putts to win holes, and I hit him nice.

The greens are very tricky out there where if you play break, like if you play what you think is the high line, they stay high. So then you tighten them up and then they'll kind of dive. It's a little tricky to read. And I had several of those where I'm like, looks pretty straight or right edge or whatever, and it would stay high right edge and not break. And then the next time I play straight and it'd break to the low edge. Did that quite, I don't know, probably four or five times.

in the first 13 holes. But I'm three up through 13 and sitting in the middle of the fairway on 14 and made a bad swing. That's the one thing, the one I'd like back was that shot. But made a bad swing, hit it over by the freaking wall in the rocks

and dropped it from there. But then we both part 15, short little part three, maybe one of my favorite par threes I've ever played. It was like 115 yards, 120 yards, kind of a three-tier green. but small, guarded by bunkers. It was just an awesome hole.

What was those courses of Weisskoff, right? I think. Don't quote me on that. But True and Country Club was fantastic. I'm not a huge fan of Desert Golf. It doesn't really not how I prefer to play the game. I like to have the driver out. And to Brandon's credit, he kept hitting driver.

And he hit it. We get on 16. and this is like he did what he needed to do but he hits a driver on 16 he's what is he two down a three to go and tries to drive the green and he hits a big cut and it's heading right and the cart path is there and there's desert and then there's the road and I'm like holy cow he's hit it out of play and he's frustrated

he hits a provisional hits it left in the rocks and I'm like I'll hit my five iron down the fairway we get up there and I'm thinking like it's turning in my head. I'm like, where do I stay in Augusta? Like, where do I get? I'm like, you know, a house or cabin or whatever that is. And get up there and his ball's like a yard left of the cart path in play in the rough. Like it must have hit soft and just stuck there. I hit a bad wedge and one hopped it over the green to a back left pen. He gets this chip. It's a nice pitch, but it's like straight down the whole way there. And it's going to roll off the green like to the fringe.

smacks the flagstick and goes to a foot and I'm like and then I go to 17 and he gets a perfect drive again I hit it a little right lands in the rough hops just in the desert naturally get up there and I'm straight behind a cactus have to chip out he gets a hybrid up and it runs it up on the green makes birdie so now we're tied and like I'm angry like internally pissed but like motivated I'm like I'm I'm going to make birdie on the sole. I have to make birdie. I'm going to make birdie. Finally hit a good t-ball. He does too. I get to go first. And I hit a wedge in there,

high, 12 feet probably. He steps up again. It's it to two feet. And I'm like, gosh, dang it, man. Like, I thought we were AMs here. Like, what are we hitting a tap in for? And mind you,

earlier in the round, the only birdies he made, he literally hit it to tap in. Like, gimmies. He didn't put a single birdie putt that went in. and I made the putt, fortunately, and it was like pretty pumped, gave him his, and we went to the extra hole. He hits a driver perfect on 10 again, and I laid up, which I hate to say it,

but it's like I hadn't, I wasn't going to hit the fairway. I was going to be in the right desert. The wind was off the left, and I'm like, this has no chance. I hit it on the green, misjudged it a little bit, probably had 25 feet, and he hit it to that again. And I missed and I made him putt it. But that was it. And then it was, it went from like, I was super pumped to be there, super pumped to make matchplay because I had no business making matchplay.

And then kind of got on a role. And then you start to think, like, I might have a chance at this. And granted, the rest of the guys in the field are really good players. But then I was extremely disappointed. And then the hangover the next day of like all the adrenaline's gone, I just walked 100. and 40 holes and walked like 60 miles in 100 degree heat and my body hurt so bad

I had blisters, my fingers hurt and I couldn't hardly get out of bed the next day. It sucked, but all in all, like, it had to be one of the most memorable golf tournaments you've ever bought it. It was, I hate,

it was the most fun I've ever had because it didn't matter for like my livelihood. And like, granted I had some cool moments where I was able to win some professional events and did some cool things. But this was like, I left and was like, that's the coolest thing I've ever done. Like, hands down, I would do that every year,

only that if I got to do that and be the happiest human to play golf in just that event. And you're going to be dangerous when it gets back to, you know, east coast, tree lines. Oh, wait a little. It was kind of a strange, man, or you could hit it all over the place. Great.

Kind of a strange venue for the mid-am. Like, that one's, it kind of sticks out a little bit. It was a, I didn't know what to expect with Desert Golf, and it was definitely interesting. I had visions that it was going to be like waste management, where guys still hit driver a bunch and kind of long, whatever. It was not that. A lot of fairways just ended at 280,

and so you didn't have a chance to really bang the driver. That week, notwithstanding, like, How has your game evolved or changed since you stopped playing professionally? Since you stopped playing every week and practicing and all of that. I mean, I said this the other day. Like, I literally have gone to the range twice this year and both to like practice. And it was awful. And I'm like, I can't do this.

Like, I don't even know what to work on. I had actually texted Tim Cook, my swing coach from years past. And I was like, hey, can I upload some videos and you just like tell me what you think? I didn't have a face on video for a year and a half on my phone. Like literally a year and a half. Hadn't taken one. It's about what you'd expect.

I can still make a bunch of birdies, but I also am very keen on making a double. Like the ceiling's still a lot of, but the floor is a lot more. The bad is like, I hit shots and I'm like, I don't know what that was and I don't know how to fix that. Now, baby. Yeah, like I, I bladed a wedge, like,

four-headed a wedge in the tournament and stroke play and got up and down from over the green in the back bunker for bars. I mean, the thing rolled, like landed front of the green and just zipped over into the back. The good shots are still really good. The bad shots are just exponentially worse. Pudding somehow the putter is like awesome. And I kid you not, I have not spent five minutes on a putting green in two years I just I just haven't maybe that was the secret I that must have I used to practice it and I was my speed sucked and I I don't feel like I was a great putter and now I don't know if it's just the bent grass but you give me a 15 footer and I feel pretty good that I can get started online kind of boots a new kind of roots yeah it's it's

True joy to hear you talking about it. I'm already looking forward to. I've got to get up to San Valley and watch next year. I'm so glad you got into next year's event. That's going to be so fun. Anything else you're going to play, you think? I'll try. Well, I don't know how the whole mid-am circuit works still.

Like, I had a buddy reach out, and he's like, you've got to try to play in the Crump Cup. And I'm like, I mean, I would not turn that down by any stretch of the imagination. But I highly doubt that one. Mr. Crump, if you're listening, I would love you. Mid-am tournament gets me. in the Crump Cup. There's a few. I'd like to play Gasparilla.

I'd like to make a vacation with the family out of that and go see her family next year. Just because that course looked so fun to play. It's got redone. It's totally different now, yeah. They tore everything up. It's completely redone, yeah. Oh, that's kind of a bummer. Yeah.

I mean, it's going to be great. Pretty similar, but yeah. Yeah. That was, I mean, that was the moment. That was watching you there. That was my retirement moment, too. I passed the baton to you. Oh, man.

It was just, that was just seeing guys, I don't know how this will sound, but seeing guys compete for the love of the game. Yeah. Was so refreshing because it became work. And you can, people can say, like I failed as a professional golfer.

I don't think of it as a failure. I had a fun ride doing what I love to do. And then it became true work and my body didn't hold up. And I played three. years longer than I should have. I was miserable from 2019 on. I mean, my last good year was 2018. Then I had hip surgery. And then from then on, I truly didn't enjoy it at all. I enjoyed Monday to Wednesday and hanging out with my buddy who's playing practice rounds. And I like to practice back then. But then come Thursday, I didn't enjoy it. And so seeing you guys down

there just competing and playing golf, I was like, holy smokes. Like I want to do that. I want to do that like i want to find the joy in that again and this definitely brought it back how i was listening on the pod just be clear i used quotes air quotes for failed professionals early on uh and i don't consider you be a failed professional there are some health factors that that were extremely limiting for you but uh it would have been it's also hard to hear your like you talk about that and be like yeah he shouldn't be able to play in this right and it's fine like i i i don't care if you if people don't think i should play i if they told me i couldn't i obviously wouldn't um they i don't know what their exact strategy is on letting guys back in but i'm thankful that they did and thankful that i can play in

this and you know play my club championship and a couple other fun little amateur events what's uh what's been the rest of the kind of you know transition into civilian life been like for you how of you, you know, life after pro golf, what's up in like? Uh, major adjustment. The first job I had, I traveled a lot. I thought I would like it because of the travel and I've always traveled. And then once I realized, like, I didn't have to really travel anymore. I didn't love the travel aspect.

And I was like, I kind of just want to be home now. Like, we got three kids. I got my two boys are six and four. My little girl just turned two. And I don't even. and make it in the driveway before they greet me on my way home from work. And it's like, I don't want to, I don't want to be gone. Took this new job and it's way more, I travel a little bit,

but it's nowhere near what I was doing. And, you know, I go to work at 8 o'clock and I come home at 4.30 and hang out with the boys for a couple hours. We play basketball. We shoot our bows in the backyard and have a fun time. And then they go to bed and I answer some email. and go to sleep. That's pretty much what my life looks like.

And it's been a blessing because I've been a better dad because of it. Like the last couple of years playing professionally, the stress of it and my mind was just in not a good place. And it's kind of helped me out in multiple areas to have regular civilian life and get to do that. And it's nice too. like up here in the wintertime like I like to deer hunt so as of I play the u.s. four ball qualifier on Thursday with Justin Hicks after that the clubs go away and I probably won't touch them

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Huber could be like me. It could be a, you know, garage net guy. That's how I spend my winters, you know, just hitting those wedges into the net. You would like the wedge part. It's like the stack wedges. Speaking of the stack system, I need to get my speed back up. Really? It is significant drop.

Okay. Maybe it is for you. I think it would be. Like, I bet, I mean, I used to cruise probably in the low 120s, like pretty effortlessly. Ball speed was low to mid-180s. I can't sniff 180. Like, it's, if I give it everything I got, I don't think I saw. I played a butcher.

Yeah, it's, I'm a little poofer. Big tall guy that's just plunting it up. Just a little lazy. Just poof. I can't even picture that for you. That's crazy. It's like I feel like I'm giving it everything and it'll be like 117. How much of that is the second hip surgery?

So that's the silver lining is I have no pain anymore like in my hips. But it's also I've found it to be rather difficult because I don't have a stopping point in my back swing anymore before like my hip just stopped rotating it physically couldn't go any further. So I always had a short back swing and I could generate. speed and now I'm like John Daley-esque like I can turn into my right hip and it just never stops and it's I my only swing thought while I was out there was like try to make a three-quarter swing and it's the hardest thing ever it used to be just so effortless but yeah that's a part of the issue that I got gone right now I think we got to we got to get some of your rounds on camera here I think I think we've had so many of you you know commentating I was thinking about

that i was like god i wish we could just rush a camera out there just film film one of these matches so we could we could flip it we might need to do that at sand valley next year if you would have seen the stroke play if that would have been on camera it's like almost needed a beast and no one would believe it i mean it was who's catting for you next year at uh at sand valley maybe we get one of us on the bag and then we'll film it i think i're yeah i think evan'll run it back next year you'd be hard pressed to to get them off of there we could be fourth and fifth reserves though i think you For sure. He's trying to get that master's invite,

exactly. Exactly. How many people would have offered to caddy for you at Augusta if you'd have made that? My dad probably would have offered. I probably had no less than like 40 people being like, man, I can't wait for Augusta.

I know it's been a while. I need tickets. I can't wait for tickets to Augusta. And I'm like, all right. I don't think I get unlimited. Oh, wow. It would have been, it would have been awesome. I definitely would have had to practice

because it would have been, I was gotten destroyed if I hit it anything like that. What's the meanest message you got from somebody? Well, this is kind of funny. I saw some guy on Twitter. Someone texts me and was like, are you seeing this? And I never get on Twitter.

Like it's, I don't even have the app. It's like I have to log in. You miss it out. It's in a good spot. Well, I got on there and was like, okay.

And then the one guy was like, I was Justin Huber playing in the midam. And then it was like, bump round 16 bump round eight and then i would like had it typed out and i was walking down the freaking 16th fairway and i was going to tweet back at him bump round four and like then i lost i was like so excited to just chirp back at him um i don't know it's i get it i don't know who the people are that are like that don't want us playing if if they don't let any of us play i don't want to say it but the level of golf is not going to be great

because most players in that field have tried to play professionally at some point. Now you could go down the corn fairy rabbit hole or PJ to a rabbit hole. I don't have any stance on that. I was happy that it was three years and it wasn't five because chances are when I'm 40, I'm not going to be doing this.

Like I told my wife that when I went out to the USAM qualifier, I said the thought of this is really cool. The actuality of this is actually not very cool. like I'm leaving to go play a qualifier and I don't really want to do that anymore. I said I'll probably do this for two years and then I'll play the city tournament and the club championship

and try to get my name on the wall at Sycamore Hills. 10 years, like fast forward 10 years, he's like the Omar you're rusty. Exactly. I would like to play a USAM. That is like one thing. That's the one I never got to do. I played a couple of USGERS.

I was I really wanted to play it this year because Olympic club is where I played my first USDA event. So I was all pumped to do it and then got beat by a bunch of high school and college kids in the playoff. Well, what do you think? Hubers, we're going to, we're going to transition talk a little more PJ tour golf. You want to hang out and BS for a little bit? Let's do it. All right. Guys, I'm here. I love it. Which one other thing. I think the USGA, like we should have Langley on for sure. Just talk about. I felt so bad. We just. just a constant we we went after him at the it was a little bit of like hey how are you guys and we just got in his face about this reinstated a i want to talk i go i want to talk to you about this

shit he's the best he'd be a great one to have he's a great guy i think they just need to to play offense a little bit and say hey here's here's what we look at here's the philosophy behind it it's not just put your finger to the wind or you know hey like or hey we we recognize we need more clarity around this or that for sure and i think that would be great i mean just to say if you played 150 major tour events then it's minimum seven years if it's a hundred events then it's minimum five years or whatever yeah um but i got to give i have to say like the u sGA did an incredible job like i haven't played a u sGA event since i was 16 or whatever it was my second u s junior and they are so well done.

It's incredible. Like it was, it was special. It truly was. This will go down as like maybe one of my, maybe my fondest golf memory was this. That's great. I love it.

Well, listen, now that you're not a pro golfer, I feel like you can weigh in on pro golfers a little bit more. Now you can hook real takes. You don't have to be politically correct. That's what we're, that's what we're about to do. I was texting you guys earlier.

I feel like, you know, we never really, the PJ tour is such a weird spot because it ends at the tour championship. The season's kind of over but we've got the fall and you just never quite like closed the book.

So I wanted to look at, you know, kind of stopping at the tour championship. Let me just pick a couple things that we want to linger on a little bit. I'm going to throw out some stats and I basically want to hear you guys say whether that stat next year is going to be more or less or the same. This makes sense as we go.

But before we get there, I want to, There's three stats that I, these are just disconnected things that I stumbled on that I thought were fun. We can move through these quick. First one, I'm going to throw out this number. 9 million, 163,3,312 dollars. Anybody, anybody guess what this is in reference to? How much money, Huber million dollars? Justin Huber's career, career earns, you know.

This is, this is the gap between number one and number two on the money list this year. $9.2 million was the difference between Scotty Sheffler and Tommy Fleetwood this year. There are only nine players on tour this year that even made that much money. So again, there's just, we say this on the pot all the time.

Like, I don't know how to keep, you know, illustrating how good Scotty's been. There's just, there's another one for you right there. Do you know who the nine are? Does that, does that include the $10 million?

No, it doesn't, TC. Tommy one? No, it does, no. But it also doesn't include the 10 million that Scotty won for this and that and all the other bonuses and so the Torch Championship that's still not official money

I don't think it is I don't know actually I would think it would be now I think I'm sorry I think it is official money because I'm guessing that's how Tommy got to second I was going to say like that makes Scotty's even more a gap even more impressive because $10 million in the last event

exactly so it won't include yes Scotty He's like Comcast money or whatever, but yeah, I think it does include about the Windham tour championship. Or the BMW bonus or the FedEx St. Jude bonus. He got bonuses at for being in first and for each of those. The only players, Sully, that made that much money this year. I was just if we could try to guess them, but I mean, I don't know.

Like, probably JJ Spahn was one, I'm guessing. Yep. Ben Griffin. Yep. Rory. Yep. We have Tommy and Scotty. Yep.

Yep. Come on. Million. There's what, three more, I think? You didn't say JT, did you? No, J.C. He's on there.

Sepp Straka? Sepp Straka is on there. There's one more. Guy, just the best businessman on the PJ Tour. Can't lay? Russell Henley.

Patrick Cantlay. Well, I mean, Justin Rose is number 10. At Eastland. 8.4. TC, I wanted to throw this one in you in here for you. In reference to, quote, the TC. This is something that came up on our goals podcast.

It's now infamous. Tron saying that he had the goal to make five birdies in a row, quote, more often. Not only does he want to make five birdies in a row. He wants to do it more often. There were just under 500 players on the PJ tour this year. And for the birdie, baby. They're just under 500 players on tour that made a birdie. this year.

How many do you think made five in a row once? 25. Four. Yeah, four. More? More. 45. 45 players made five 30s in a row this season.

I believe the record. How many did it multiple times? Adam had when I didn't have that data in front of me. I knew you're going to ask me that. I don't know. Justin Ray, if you're listening. Yeah, please get at me on that one. I just, you know, T.C., I think it's more.

How'd you find that one? How do you dig that? Well, I looked up the consecutive birdies, uh, stat. Oh, okay. Found the people who capped out at five or more. Uh, did anybody go more? Yeah, Adam Hadwin made seven, I think. It's seven in a row.

It's a new, new goal for you next year. Huber, what's the most you've ever made in a row? Ooh. I don't know that answer. I don't think I've ever made five in a row. I was nine under through eight in a Monday qualifier at one time, but I, you make it had a par in there i did okay do you freak out after that well the guy i kind of panicked and i'm like we're walking to the back nine and the guy's like uh shot three under and you beat me

by six and i was like yeah i don't really know what to do from here but like it could be cowboy yeah but speaking of the guy that ended up winning he birdied the last four holes in our match and then he birdied the next four to start the afternoon match that's what we're talking about he had eight gosh tc and it would be remiss if i didn't ask if you have done it this year once or multiple times

i've done four in a row twice this year it's impressive uh but i haven't i haven't cracked five i i'll be honest i started freaking out for sure well now it's just it becomes it's taking on such a life of its own yeah uh all right this one makes me

this one makes me a little uh i don't know a little blue for some reason i don't know why but But this is another financial number here, $13,7,400. There's no way you're going to guess this. So I'll just tell you. This is the amount of money needed for Rory in 2026 to pass Tiger on the all-time career money list. That is just, I feel like I got that before all the purses went like crazy, crazy.

That early career money list of just, you know, it's Tiger, it's Phil, it's Vijay, it's you're like that that was cemented in my head for so long it meant something it really it's cool and now it's just i mean that's these guys are slow past it's scotty got into it scotty would need he he's got to 100 million scotty would need 21.5 million dollars this year and for reference he made 27 million dollars yeah uh that's insane this year so he he's like right at a hundred million yeah he is so i guess we can place bet do do one or both past tiger rory rory would need 13. He made 17. Yeah. Like past Tiger in 2026?

Yeah. They don't pass them obviously. Yeah. But they both get it next year. I think they both will. Yeah. I would think so too. Again, just saying that out loud.

I mean, Scotty would have to make $21.5 million again, which let that transition probably below average the last three years into the Scotty Sheffler section here. Scotty, of course, played 20 events this year. He finished in the top 10 and 17 of them. Again, top 10 and 17 out of 20 events. uh the three that he didn't t 25 uh at phoenix t 11 at bay hill t 20 at the players which means since mid march his worst finish is t8 of course we know he won the pGA he won the open he led the tour in a million different stats proximity hits it four feet closer on every approach out than the average tour player uh that's so much he was fourth uh inside 100 yards first from outside 100 yards uh he's first in scrambling first in bounce back obviously obviously leads in scoring average. I like this.

He also leads every round of scoring average. So first like best in first round scoring average, best in second round scoring average. Best on Saturdays. That's insane. He's also best early scoring average, best late scoring average, best par five. He didn't even play very well the first like two or three months of the season. Best par five scoring average. Best par four scaring average.

Second and par three scoring average. Who? There's no way he will ever guess who is first. Aaron Rye. That's a decent guess. Antoine Rosner. Oh, my God. Which was the scatterplot I sent to you guys earlier today.

Just massive outlier, like very below average on everything except for approach. I think he just ball strikes it. Yeah. Would you put him on the T-Vox just hitting an iron shot to do a FAR 3? He is dialed. Yeah, it has to be on the T. Yeah, it has to be on the T. Uh, I don't remember.

That's a good. I will look that up. I think that would have to be. I don't think Scottie was over par on part three. That'd be a fascinating stat. I know. Scoring average is high on par threes, but if they, if they kept this stat of when it's ball in hand,

if, if Antoine Rosner is like a ball in hand, you know, lifting in place specialist. Rosner 2.96. Okay. A couple more, Scotty ones. He's now made 64 consecutive cuts.

Again, and I know this doesn't mean quite a, as much, but with these guys playing a bunch of no-cut events. Secondly to Xander, Zander's now like 72 or something like that. Solly, I think you're going to like this one. You know our final round performance stat? Did you stay the same or improve during the final round? Scotty does that 85% of the time.

That's so hard from first place. 85% of the time, his position on the leaderboard improves or stays the same in the final round. that is obviously the best on tour. Tommy second on tour in that stat, which I don't know if that hurts or helps your case, T.C. for all the backdoor finishes. Do not get excited about this. Do not, as your attorney, T.C.,

do not incriminate your, do not comment any further on this. I would have thought, hold on, in the past, like setting aside the last few months, in the past that would have been, I feel like people would have shit on him, you know, for that. I think looking at the last three months, or so. Pommie was in the lead or right around the lead going, you know, going into the final round a bunch. So yeah, I feel like that's a step forward for him. So last thing, and we're rounding

up to our actual question here. Let's do some strokes gain stuff. Uh, strokes gain T to Green. Scotty's first. Strokes gained off the T. He's first. Strokes gained approach. He's first. Strokes gained around the T. He's 16th. Strokes gained putting this year. 18th. on the PGA tour. Going back... This is raw PGA tour, not field-adjusted stuff. His ratings would be better on field-adjusted stuff if that was available.

So what I was going to ask is next year, 18th, are we going to see him higher or lower than that in strokes game putting? I think we've seen a sustainable thing. Is this go backwards? What are you guys think? I think we see him better than that, personally. I feel like he struggled with his putting.

He had a couple of spitting. spells this year. Ted wasn't on the bag for for some of it. It seemed like he was getting really frustrated at times and he still finished 18th. I think I think he's just starting to unlock the putting. I think it by it would have to go backwards from that. He was a field adjusted plus 0.62 per round, which I think is probably top five in the game. I'd have to double check that this past year. And I would just think there's only kind of one way to go from there. I think I Are you saying he's going to play against more mules next year? No, I just like, I just think he had a ridiculously ridiculous.

Scotty stuff aside, like his putting year was like a better than like a Zander year. For reference, his past rankings here, 2020, he was 117th, 2021, he was 107th, 22nd, he was 58th, 2023, 162nd, 2024, he was 77th, jumped all the way to 18th this year. So I think I'm going with TC on this only gets better He's got the claw and his speed is so good I I think he I think he sniffs the top 10 next year What about uh what about wins one six times this year Do we think we get more wins less wins the same amount of wins

That's such a good number right I bet that the over under's got to be six and a half And I'd take seven I'd take the over I think the only thing, the only thing that I think I worry about a little bit next year is guys like Morikawa and Zander played really poorly this year. And I feel like those are some of those, you know, tier two challengers kind of spit the bit this year on them. And I don't know if that's going to be the case moving forward. I feel like he's starting, though, to get the kind of Tiger aura, though, is like, Scott, he's up. here he's going to win like it's it feels like that as a fan where it's like sure scotty he's up by the leaderboard again he's he's clearly going to win this i i bet he gets at least seven i i want to

say under just because like you're more likely to go backwards but also he like didn't win for the first quarter of the year because he put his hand through a wine the ravioli period the ravioli period i i so i was digging into the numbers today i was trying to come up with a question around this and I think it's just clunky because it gets kind of mathy and it's just a lot of numbers. So stick with me here. I am not a data scientist. I don't know if this is the right way to do this,

how statisticians would approach it. But I basically went in like six month blocks. So starting now going back six months and then another six months and another six months and another six months. And I compared his like true strokes gained to the next 10 best guys, the average of the next 10 best guys. So not even like a Morikawa falls out. I'm not sticking on more Cala consistently.

Just like literally who are the 10 best guys. And the gap over the last six months is so much wider than it's ever been. Like it just keeps getting so much better. Those gaps going back to putting, right? It has to be going back to September of 2022. So the first block was like September of 22 into March of 23. 0.84.56, 1.53, 1.12, 0.93 during the ravioli period. And then 1.77 over the last six months is the difference between him and the next, the 10 best guys.

It's just, I don't know. Again, I know that's probably easier to see visually, but it's just shocking how much it just keeps getting better. So again, it's like it's going to peak at some point, obviously, but I don't know, man. The trend line is kind of only going one way. The, as people have underestimated, he basically turned into Cam Smith with the putter this year. Right. On top of being the best ball striker in the world. yeah you get enough of those looks you're bound to figure them out that's right

I don't know uh all right well that that's that's the the Scotty section that's obviously the longest one we can fly through the rest of these here we got it we got a we got a or you or you don't you're like VJ I think he's I think he's here to say for like at least four or five years of four to five wins minimum until he gets bored of pro golf gets his amateur status back. Yeah. How many years do you think it would take for Scotty to get his amateur status back?

25, 30? I mean, there's a limit to where they will. What if they told him you cannot touch a golf club for 25 years? I think Bryce is the only one that's got a shot at that because he's going to live to least like 140, right? So I think exactly. Oh, man. I have a great question.

I'd like to see the breakdown of what Scottie's time frame would look like. and he gets to be 170 they can he can play the senior am all right what if bryson just stops playing tournaments and he just focuses on his channel you get his amateur status back it's the rumor i heard dc it's the rumor i heard that's what i'm hearing to be a negotiating tactic i believe that's more likely to be the case but yeah well speaking of youtube stars let's talk about tommy fleetwood uh career year for tommy obviously 19 events finished top 25 and 15 of those 19 events very good stuff missed only one cut all year unfortunately that was at Oakmont I think TC had spent a lot of capital that week that was his only miss cut of the year but eight top tens this season one shy of his career high he made 18 and a half million dollars on the course as I mentioned but you know the stat you know the number that I'm going to I'm going to point to here one PGA tour win are we going to see more, less, or equal next year?

It's a good one. Huber, I'm going to start with you. He gets two. I love it. He gets to. The lid is off. I've been a Fleetwood fan for a while, a closet Fleetwood fan. But I had breakfast at first watch one day during Players Week, and he sat next to me,

and he seemed like the coolest dude ever. He talks to him? I said hi, but he's just really chilling. He was just like, a normal dude and nobody knew who he was this is probably like six years ago and he was like 25 years old then something like he was young

and I'm just sitting next to him like he's at the table right next to me and nobody walks up or says anything and I'm like this is the best Tommy Fleetwood he's just chilling right here that guy like that hits it so nice and is consistent I feel like once the lid pops off

he picks up a couple he might win early I can see him winning before Augusta next year. I'm going one, Dege. I'll tell you why I'm not going above that. We just did the Scotty thing. Like Scottie's going to win 12. He's going to hoover things up.

And Tommy doesn't play mule events. Like he doesn't play anything that's like easy to pick off. That's part of the reason like why it took him so long to get a win is he's just only playing like mostly almost only playing the elite field stuff. So I think still the wins are going to be hard to come by with those two factors. Are we talking PGA tour win? Are we talking worldwide wins? We're not talking about the other tours. PJ tour. PJ tour.

Okay. That other tour. Okay. I'm going to say he gets one and it's Burkdale. It's a major. You're not allowed to call that. Major. Major.

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That's unbelievable. I keep losing my charger because I can't remember where I put it because of how good the battery is. Yeah. Dege, one other stat I wanted to talk about with Scotty real quick. Randy sent this over this week. Ryan Ballengee had a

post on X, the Everything app. As opposed to the Xander app, which is apparently the nothing app. I don't think he's puts on there. going up on savings. I don't see that coming. But if to keep a PGA tour card,

you had to beat Scotty GFleur in any 72 whole tournament, which Scotty played this season, there would be 58 total PGA4 members. Jeffler plus to just 57 unique players this season. God. Even in the ravioli period. It is incredible. That's nuts, man.

That's crazy. 57 guys. I would love to, Like, like, I, I would like to see that listed out and see, like, like, these guys did not beat Scotty this year. And if you don't beat Scotty in 2026, you're done. You got to turn it. You're going to be playing the U.S. mid-am with humor. We should put them all.

Come on, bring them all. We should put that list together. The only true PJ tour players heading into 2026. Oh, I wonder, I wonder if you looked at Tiger 2000, what that would look like comparatively. No, here's a good one. You can't get sponsor exemptions into the signature events if you didn't beat Scotty at least one of events. I'm on board with that.

I love that. All right. Let me throw out this guy. He had to have beaten Scotty at least once, but now I'm kind of questioning everything. Cameron Young, marvelous, marvelous season for Cameron Young, got himself on the Rider Cup team. That's right. Beat Scott at the U.S. Open.

Eight top tens in 25 events, hasn't finished worse than 11th in a 11th in a his last five starts. We're going to look at the money list here. Cameron Young was 12th on the money list this season. Higher, lower, or the same next year. I think this is a pretty good line. For reference, 2022, he was 10th, 2023. He was 33rd.

2024. He was 43rd. This year he was 12th. I'm buying higher if that means he's going up the list. And I think this new golf ball thing is not coincidental change in his freakiness. And talk about learning how to pull. put as well. Yeah. I'm with you.

I'm with you. I would be, I think he's going to be in that top 10. I'm going lower. Selling. I'm selling. You were like the buyer when we, when he graduated from the corner.

I remember we did a corn fray pod with you. You're like, this guy's different. Yeah. He was, he still is different. But I think the top 10 list is just so shocking of how good those guys are. The original conversation was chef.

When I had made the bet with Charlie Saxon, he said he was going to be a top five player in the world. And I'm like, look at the top five players in the world. These are all multiple major championships. Not going to happen. I was way off on that. But like, I feel like the top 10. That makes you feel better about this Cam Young. Yeah.

I just, I got him at like 15 next year. Okay. Okay. I think I'll have a lot of money. But I don't think. Yeah. He's pretty volatile. You see, binders.

This is a lot of cuts. You buying or selling. Um, I think I'm selling. in the short term, just because I think he pushed a lot of chips in to get to where he's at. I think it's kind of like he's going to have to almost reset a little bit and then, you know, and then continue the progression. I think I'm buying over like a three-year span. I think I'm selling over a one-year span. I like it. Fiscally responsible. I can get down with that. All right. We're going to talk about Jackson Coyven for a second. Played in seven events

this year, made six cuts. Only one he missed was also at the U.S. Open. Three-time. top tens in those seven events famously. Sounds like he's where in the world right now, never to win. I totally agree. Sounds like he is going to go back to Auburn for another season, turn pro after that, already has a PJ tour card. So my, my more or less here is going to be the three top tens. Let's be, let's be realistic about this.

There's a lot of guys on tour that did not have three top tens this season. Daniel Berger, Wyndham Clark, Eric Cole, Nico Etchevich. Veria. Ryan Fox didn't have three top tens. Max Grazerman, Denny McCarthy, Keith Mitchell, Aaron Rye, the great man, Sammy Valamaki. These guys didn't have three top tens. Is it just an auto for Jackson Coyven? He's just going to pick up where he left off and keep just hunting people. I think it's unfair that you include Foxy and that because Foxy had had two top tens and they were both wins. Which is, you know, the question is what I said. What I said. Three is three or more.

Um, yeah, I think so. He has more. He's very good. Uh, he'll go three again. That's kind of where I'm like, well, how many events do you play? Is he going to play a seven? Well, probably turn pro in early June, right, after NCAA, so. He'll take sponsor exemptions in the early part of the year, I assume.

Probably he'll have, he'll probably play, he'll have five, 15 events or something like that, maybe. Yeah. Just look at how many sergeant played this year. Will he be on the president's cup team next year? Oh, that's a good one. I think absolutely he should be. If they're using the President's Cup, the correct way. That's okay.

Well, now you're saying two different things. Definitely not. It should be. I think he should be. I'm going to say yes, just because I want to wish cast that one into existence. Sure. Would love to root for that.

One Coyvon and Clanton. Yeah. What about first in four? You guys threw Clinton aside as soon as this Coyven thing started happening. Yeah. I mean, we just, we can't get them all right, you know, we get, I got Scotty right. I've gotten Coyvin right. I mean, I can't.

Cumi can I. This is the one. This is the one I'm most excited for. This is a chance. This is a chance to get one right, because I think people are going to remember this. I'm going to call this the turnover game. Okay. I, we can't use a crooked OWGR anymore.

We don't want to use the money list is kind of all skewed because now they're paying for FedEx Cup and all that stuff. But so I'm looking at the data golf rankings, which go way back, you know, they've got their archives filled up so you can look at these retroactive data golf rankings. I went back to 2010, okay, and I pulled the top 10 from each year. On average, only 4.7 guys carry over like from year to year in the top 10 of the data golf rankings. There's been as many as six. That's the most there ever was from 2010 to.

this year, and there's been as few as three that have carried over from year to year. Each question, how closely do the data golf rankings mirror the, or refueling? Who are the top 10? The OWGR. They are, well, this might answer both of those questions. Top 10 is Scotty Sheffler. This is right now. Scotty Sheffler, Rory McElroy, Tommy Fleetwood, John Rom, Ben Griffin, Russell Henley,

Bryson Deschambo, Matt Fitzpatrick, Zander Shoffley. And so the math would say that there's probably only about five of those guys. They're going to be in the top 10 next year. And I am very curious who you guys think those five will be. And also the data, so this ranking, does this just show golf that was played this year? Or is this like a running? It's a weighted running thing based on your recent results or weighted more heavily. but it's kind of, it's kind of smoothed out, though.

It's not as a results based like the OWGR is. It's more about like, like, basically no WGR. A T20 and a T50 are about worth the same. They're just not worth much difference. Whereas in this rating, that would separate them out a little bit more. It's going to, it basically, it's taking all the golf you've played and essentially averaging it out with some weights into recent, you know, results as well. Because if Zander doesn't get on his horse, he's out.

Right. But I think you would say he is, if he's healthier this year, does he revert back into because I don't think his 2024 is counting for much at this point in, in the weighted system. Right. Yes. So. I think four of those guys are out. Let's go person by person then.

Scotty Schaeffler. I got to think you guys are pretty convinced on that one. Yeah. Rory McElroy. I think we're good there. Yeah. Good there. What, what is your?

shuts it down after the rider cup I know it's kind of the thing that was keeping him engaged and then he you know he's had his quotes of hey I get up for the majors I have trouble getting up for the other events obviously the floor is pretty high there

doesn't yeah I think he stays in the top 10 I think he stays in the top 10 yeah Tommy Fleetwood yes that's three locks then we've only got two more basically John Rom Yes.

No. I want to say no. I'll say the top 10. I'll say yes. I'm more hesitant on Fleetwood than I am, Rom. I'm with you, Sally. No offense. The buoy.

He doesn't sink. He's the buoy. No, Rom did sink this year. May he's fourth. He had some pretty, like. If that's the sink, then he's going to be in the top 10 next year. Come on. Penn's a big one.

Yeah, it's probably. Everybody else stinks, remember. That's true. He's probably in. Yeah. Ben Griffin. I think he'd be a nominee to come out based on the math you're telling me.

I'm a BG fan. He's got to be some regression. I like, I like him. Got to be exhausted. Yeah. He'll be 11th or 12th. Russ Henley. Billet Hill's doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

He just plays good every week and they never show him. I'll say he's probably like he'll be out, but I'm a Henley buyer as well. like everything's just stacked against him as far as the core setups he was also in in 2024 for what it's worth I'm I'm leaving him in he's been he was the one guy

when I looked up world rankings that blew my mind so good so good Huber I think that's fine for you you can't have anybody else yeah I kicked I kicked Romm out oh uh oh that's true so you had one two three Raman Griffin

four you got one more okay uh bryson de shambo i'm gonna say out it's an interesting one he doesn't play that well in live events and i'm kind of out what if he wins a major that'd be great then i'll be wrong but he has to like

win a major to yeah to do it uh i think the major venues next year set up pretty well for him but he's got like win him it's an interesting one i think he's out I think if you're looking at volatility, I could see him being a volatile one. I mean, we're going to get a new golf ball back for manufacturing here pretty soon. You're saying in, TC? I'm saying in.

So you might be done then too, I think. I think that was my fourth. Matt Fitzpatrick. He's out right now. I'm going to say that's an easy one, I think. No offense. Hope he's, I love Matt. The last one is your great guy.

Zander Shoffley for anybody who doesn't. have a pick left but in I think you guys all cruised there that was yeah it's a fun game that's a fun exercise yeah we'll have to we'll have to revisit that one later and see who's not have sam burns that's number 10 in the day oh you're saying at the end of end of the pj tour season oh do i only have nine one two three yeah berns is number 10 seven eight oh yeah and sam burns is number 10 i'm sorry i'll say he's out out who's who's moving in though wow that's a much bigger question. Govlin.

Clanton. Goetvin. Ludwig. I think Ludwig's moving in for sure. I'm high. The worst version of Ludwig this year. Ludwig did not carry over. I'm trying to think of some recent year guys

that could pop back in. Oh, Colin. J.T. J.T. J.T. Teryl Hatton could as well. I think. Hatton.

Can't lay. I think Hadecki. Yeah. And Hadecki has a big year. Never know what to do with Hedekke. I don't either. I know. What a wild guard.

Well, anyways, guys, that's what I got. It's kind of closing the book. Where's Big Shot Bob in the data golf? He's 20th. Okay. So he's ninth in the O.WGR, but 20th there. He just moved down seven spots. I think he's, I don't know exactly why.

It gave him with seven spots deduction for the I test. What? Once they mirrored his swing over to the right side, and they're like, oh, no, oh, no. Guys, that's my, that's my research on, on 2025. I love it. I appreciate you going on the, going on that ride with me. Huber, I think we're going to cut you loose, man.

Thank you for, uh, thank you for everything. Thanks for the stories. Thanks for playing great, made for an awesome week of refreshing my internet browser and waiting for new holes to update. It was a real thrill, man, seeing you out there. And I can't wait until that. I'm sorry I forgot you were playing the US. mid-am-2. It's already in match plan. I was like, oh, crap. It was one of those things.

I didn't, like, post about it. I was like, I figured there would be a flood of things if I did. And, again, like, it's not, I don't really care. I just, I wanted to go compete. And I had a heck of a time doing it. I appreciate all the messages from not only you guys, but everyone else. Like, it was, it'll go down in history as, like, one of the coolest things I've ever got to do. So, Yeah, we were buzzing. It was, it was, yeah, like, I think some of my favorite memories are following, you know, it doesn't matter the tournament. It could be Lauer playing in a, you know, Corn Ferry Tour event or you in a, you know, qualifier or a Lord Mack. Yeah, I think, yeah, it's just cool. But I think, uh, I do want you to go down to your office with your hat on and all your trophies in the background and your big. checks up on the wall. You just take a selfie.

I'll do it. I'll do a little like a little like around video. Yeah. Oh man. Good. Thanks. Thanks.

Yeah. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. And as always, you guys are the best. See you. Cheers. See it.

All right, guys, moving on a little bit of, uh, the world of, of competitive professional golf. Uh, you mentioned up the up top.

Solly LPGA was called after 18 holes. Haven't seen one of these in a while. The Walmart. Northwest Arkansas Championship. Originally, it was scheduled to be a 54-hole tournament anyways, starting on Friday. So they played 18 holes. Allison Lee, Sarah Schmelzel, and Minami Katsu, leading at 8 under par. I think play was suspended very, very early in the second round.

They were kind of trying to push tea times, maybe delay stuff. And then it just kind of, you know, became very clear it was going to get totally wiped out. Of course, received another three and a quarter inches of rain over, night after that. And the officials basically declared that it was not only unplayable today, Sunday, but that the forecast for Monday and Tuesday were so bad that they were better off just shortening this thing to 18 holes. So a few kind of procedural things, it's going to be an unofficial event, no CME points rewarded. I know that Walmart and P&G probably have some sort of force majeure like act of God. We don't have to pay the purse

or we only have to pay a little bit of the purse or whatever. They it very clear that both of those companies are planning to pay out much, much more than what they're on the hook for contractually. So shout out to them for that, trying to make. I think they're paying out two thirds maybe. And I think everybody in the field is getting is getting some sort of payout as well. And I think they had sinkholes and some of the, some of the fairways. And then Lauren, Lauren sent a, or she posted something on the gram this afternoon it was it was pouring again this afternoon TC you were on slack saying this is bullshit

they need to get out there and play this thing any play it down to any other no no uh any I think I think I think Riggs was was out there let them let them play any other thoughts on the 18 hole 18 whole

situation here I mean this stuff I do think the 54 whole LPGA events like they do them I don't know there's what four or five of them a year it kind of make me mad but that's not here nor there good on the tournament organizer's outlier and P&G and Walmart

for for you know going above and beyond them also kind of put a little bit of a damper on the week with former Arkansas Razorback Stacey Lewis announcing her retirement this week or plans to retire after the season

I should say her retirement from a full schedule we've been through this before she very very clear pretty gun shy language pretty good shy language in some of these some of these write-ups uh but yeah she shot 68 in the first round there's nice write-up on lpj's website about like how nervous she was about all of this and going back to you know i think the role that arkansas has played in her her life she's got such an interesting story man i still like i feel like at least for someone like me who's a fairly casual LPGA fan i

kind of gloss over the the scoliosis stuff and the back surgeries and missing entire years and and all of that stuff to kind of, you know, turn into a pretty incredible, incredible career. 13-time winner on the LPGA, two-time major champion, two-time player of the year, played on four Solheim Cup teams, captain two Solheim Cup teams. So kind of a giant of American golf for the last decade and a half here. So wish her all the best. Any other Stacey Lewis thoughts from you guys? I feel like we'll see her in a lot of stuff, whether she's working in TV eventually or,

or captaining or whatever it is. I feel like this is, she's going to be around golf a lot. And kind of been in a, not a semi-retired role for a little while, but hasn't been, you know, seriously competitive in golf for,

for a couple years. But, no, kind of her time kind of in the main spotlight doesn't really correspond with our time covering the game. So it's kind of a, uh, a weird,

uh, one to, to cover, I guess at this point. But again, probably not the last we'll see in here of Stacy. Yeah. I think,

uh, good leader. on the Solheim Cup team. And I think she's done a lot for people behind the scenes. She's also had some bad takes out there. I'll just say that. But she has take. We all, right?

She does have take. Yeah. She got to respect. Yeah, it does. It seems like at least the last couple of years. Again, I'm kind of watching a lot of this from afar, but it doesn't seem afraid to kind of stick a bony finger

and some people's chest, try to write some wrongs and maybe some lonto and go mix it up for what she, what she thinks is right. So I respect that. immensely on uh over across the pond on on that other tour sally uh michel kim our guy michael kim you guys like that one earlier i thought i was that uh for the evening audience uh wins the fedex open de france the french open uh burney 16 and 17 for a one shot victory over jang won co the local man of france and elvis smiley of australia uh i think this is michael

first win since that John Deere Classic win in 2018. Kind of, you know, this has been documented, but some Max Homa-esque struggles and downsides. And now I think a lot of people know him as the Twitter guy that's gotten his game back, has been very, very open. I don't

know if anybody's ever been a better illustrator of like, if you just kind of open up the books, so to speak, on your personality, people will get behind you. Michael is like, could just very easily be another dude on the PGA tour and he's like, kind grab the bull by the horns as far as like putting himself out there and uh you know just kind of

willing himself into into making more fans and i think on days like this that that pays off great nasty up and down the 72nd hole made an massive put that i didn't did not look like it was going in until the very last second but uh no i'm just i'm stoked for him i wish the timing would have i think he was he was tweeting out that he was already regretting the hangover he's going to have tomorrow and uh i wish we could have made the timing work for a call in tonight but i'm sure we'll be talking with him some point this fall but just a great dude he's got to work for it root for uh and has been fun to do do content with over the years uh work for sally a little freudian slip there you work for the pga tour exactly players on the tour for sure for sure uh i also just like i mean there's

kind of some fun names in that field and michael also went over and played wentworth too again just from a you know pj tour perspective like pretty easy to just shut it down and not go play more golf but went over played wentworth in the french open and you know it seems like he's he's walking back with a bunch of magnums of champagne and a big ass trophy so uh love seeing that solly brooks kepka finished fourth i was told brooks takka is not a not a good three-point shooter anymore uh should you've been on the rider cup i don't know makes it makes you think and tc the bullet is back our guy mark his arvidage finished driver maybe not so much but the bullet himself is back in an absolute loving life

loving life oh god what a fun what a fun top five that was bin woo lee also finished a T5

one with Guido Migliazzi and Christopher Rattan DP World Tour man I I love watching it on the weekends like just firing it up on

Saturday morning Sunday morning and they're in you know they're wherever France or Wentworth or where they going next

we've got we've got the oh we got the dunhill beginning of October and then they go to the open to Spainia and then they go to that DP World India Championship that a bunch of guys are randomly playing. Dr. Moonjal is just, you know,

being everybody. I don't know. This is my mouth getting ahead of my brain here because I don't know how you would do this, but man, I just wish you could bring how cool those events must be in person and how cool the traveling aspect of the DP World Tour is still, and like all these things

that are still so great the DP World Tour, I wish you could bring them to life in a way that was not a 72 whole stroke play that's on, you know, golf channel or whatever, you know, I just wish there was, I'm sure some of this stuff exists, but I just haven't seen one that's really blown me away in a while, I guess, but some sort of all access thing that's just like really getting into some of these places would be, I think that would get me more amp to watch some of these events but I've heard uh I've heard keeps of eyes on the strategic alliance yeah from a scheduling and in events perspective as far as crossover and world schedule goes um you know also I would say

just just generally speaking the the way that they cover those events the the commentary yeah is so soothing totally such a nice thing to watch or just have it on a second screen while you're you know cooking on Saturday morning cooking breakfast or something. It's just soothing. It's awesome. It is. I totally agree with that. I feel like they could do whatever that would be with connection you're talking about TC, but I feel like you could

again, you could give away five spots into next year's signature events for like a fall series, right? If you're a speed that didn't make it, you know, into the top 50 for next year, like literally go grow the game in these places. Go play and some, maybe you wouldn't do it,

but like some incentive for some guys like, go hoover up and get earn those. I don't know. There's just, there's something you can do with this fall series. If you didn't beat Scotty, you have to go back.

And go validate it. Yeah. Guys, we got a lot of other stuff to get to. So we're going to, this is going to be the vaunted return of the back nine segment. I thought we had,

you know, we had about, no, we actually had to cut a couple of things. So they didn't even make it to the back nine. Good holes. You know, we found some really good holes.

We just, they weren't the best. Just like Northwest Arkansas. We had to cut a short. It's exactly right. So we're going to do a quick back nine and then we'll get out of here. So I'm going to throw this first one to you. A hole number one or 10.

I don't know, as you'll remember from the back. I don't really know how this works. Number one. Just a hearty congratulations, man. We made it. It's Ryder Cup week. We did it.

We're going to close the book on this podcast and then it's going to be writer cup week when you wake up. I know things are already cooking up there at Beth Page. What's on your mind? I kind of OD'd on it in the early part and I'm coming in. a little like almost a little hungover into rider cup week it's a bad side uh but i've done this in the past i've gotten up there too early into rider cup week and there's just not much going on not much to do those first few days so i'm heading up wednesday uh i i'm coming into this one with such a just a

i don't know i have no idea what's going to happen i don't feel confident in the u.s i don't feel like overly invested in this u.s team it would be hilarious honestly i think if they lost and i i don't know what's going to happen i'm still rooting for team i don't know what's going to happen i'm still rooting for Team USA, but I feel like I was feeling really good the day they picked the teams, and now I'm looking at the team, I'm going to like, huh, yeah, I mean, they could lose this. They really

could, but also home field advantage seems to dominate, and this is just the part where you just twist yourself into pretzel on predictions and everything, but the only thing I'd be surprised on if it's close is if it's close. I think either team will likely win by four or more, is my prediction, but I'm very excited

to get it up with. I just, I just, yeah, I think, I think that, you know, if the U.S. has it, I think they're going to go take care of it and they're going to have it from the jump. And I think if Europe gets out and starts doing it, I think Team USA is just going to collapse on top of each other and start throwing each other under the bus like they always do. And it is going to be great theater if that's the case. So we haven't seen a close one in a long, long time.

And I think there's something to that. I think there's got to be, that's more than, more than random at this point. Quotes are flying already. there was uh there was some quotes i think this was i'm trying to timeline this interview i think this interview that rory did with you and murray of the guardian was from the tour championship if i have that right but um bryson had some quotes at some point i don't remember when this was we said i'll be chirping in in rory's ear this time uh now if we go up against each other i mean you can be sure of it basically and rory's response was i think the only way he gets attention is by

mentioning other people that is basically what i think of that to get attention you will mention me or scotty or others, which is great. That's a great clapback. As a YouTuber, man, there's no power better than collapse. Well, I was going to say, there's going to be the front, the front nine of his match with Rory is going to be on the Rider Cup channel, then the back nine's on Bryson's channel. Rory also said, I think it is inevitable that something's going to happen in New York.

It might not involve me, but it is inevitable that something will happen, whether like in Rome last time or something else. And he said, I just think when you go into the... It sounds like a TC prediction. something's going to happen. I just think when you go into that environment and there are five or six days and the crowd are on you for eight hours, so many days in a row,

it's inevitable. It will get to someone or get to us as a group at some point. We're just going to have to do a really good job of managing that, having each other's backs and protecting each other. Something's going to happen. I think something's going to happen. I can't call it. Something's going to happen.

It's kind of a Randy, you know, I don't know. It's going to be fun to watch. I did watch. back today the Joe La Cava thing from Rome, it's so much worse than I remember it even. Joe the show, man.

Take a charge. He's a bad guy. It's so ridiculous. You seriously just don't do that. That was bad. You don't do that. You don't do that. Rory had some more comments.

He said, I've realized over the past few years that when it's all said and done, people aren't going to remember how much money I won. What they're going to remember is how many majors I won. So getting up for those, not a concern at all. It's the weekend, weekout stuff that I have found a bit of a struggle at times the majors in the writer cup of the five things in golf that at this point really matter to me wow shots fired at the players yeah uh and the tour that he was like

ahead of the head of for how long of a time and was it's basically sold his soul for uh that's not the right phrase but he was like put himself on the line for and kind of did not get the reward that he thought he deserved and i thought he deserved for it and he's just kind of hands up and i think that's a very very understandable feeling at this I think he could have said the four majors of the Ryder Cup and national opens. That's the only thing that matters in golf. He did not say that, though. Unfortunately.

He also said, it's a struggle for me to love the position I am in all the time. There are times when I would like to just breeze through life and not get the attention I do, but I understand that with what I've done in the game that is just part of it. There are times that I yearn for a little in amenity and having a quieter life that will happen one day. This is my time in the sun. In 10 years, it won't be. And this is my time to enjoy that part of it. it also an understandable

point of view seems yeah deeply thoughtful and good perspective there that's the catch 22 of like of six like you want to be successful enough that people will stop you everywhere you go but you don't want people to actually stop you

and bother you everywhere you go is a well yeah I love the exactly I love the the end of that quote too it's just leaning into like oh this is this is one chapter and I'm only going to get to do this once you know and I think he's it seems like he's I don't know it seems like he's I don't want to say struggled because who knows how he's feeling

but it seems like he's waffled a little bit on you know am I trying to get down to my own bubble am I trying to just embrace this am I trying to you know who am I trying to be kind of when the crowds are all yelling my name which I can't imagine what a mind F that must be to try to figure out and so as always I'm glad he's he's kind of letting us in on that process a little bit and talking about it because I have no idea what that would ever be like. Do you think we get like 2016 Hazeltine

from Rory, like the showman at Bethpage? I think he's going to be turned up to his zillion this week. I feel like that's like going to only encourage the behavior though and I don't know if that's like what he would want out of that. It's just a hard thing to maintain for three full days. I don't know. I don't really, again, that's not getting too bogged down.

We got so many riders. We need to talk about this week. Exactly. We're going to hold number two slash 11. TC, you put this on my desk. According to Instagram, our guy, big text, Sergio Garcia shot a 58 in the caption.

He said, it's not like the whole one I made against my friend Lee Westwood in Austin in 2021, but a super special to shoot 58 with my buddies at Austin Country Club. Only problem is what he was playing Austin Golf Club, which I just, you know. He posted this scorecard from us.

It says Austin Golf Club on it. And Julie Crenshaw, Ben Crenshaw's wife is in the first one of the comments. who's like, you shot this at Austin Golf Club at Austin Country Club. Just a funny, a funny thing with, I'm sure that those, those two get confused. I'm glad that he's out there playing even after his Ryder Cup snub. Exactly. You know, good stuff there.

Should he have been on the team? He's hot right now. Should Mickelson have been on the team? You know, should Mickelson be an assistant captain? I think, yeah, Sable and then, you know, I just, I don't think. think we've given it enough thought in consideration of like how insane Mickelson's entire career is just his entire existence I was thinking about it last night I was like with somebody it's like it's crazy like we don't I don't even think we

give it a 10% of the credit it deserves for just how bad shit crazy the entire thing it's a little bit like the yeah it's a little bit like the Scotty like I don't know how many more times I can say how good this guy is that's kind of how I feel about about Phil as all right moving on this one sucks uh pj tour has announced that the season opening event at the century will not be contested at coppelua due to quote drought conditions and related challenges uh tours really said that the there were water restrictions that have been in place on maui due to significant droughts and those restrictions directly affected copalua and that even with improved weather conditions uh that just the lead time it would take to host a tour event

to plan for it made it impossible to guarantee a you know something up to tour standards as far as playing conditions couple of course has hosted the season ending tournament since 1999 i'm sure many people have seen photos on social media the golf course is like truly they've lost it it's gone it was on the edge uh just really brown and it sounds like you you can kind of get as deep as you want into some of the local news reporting it sounds like there's There's issues with Maui land and pineapple company or something like that that I think controls the water rights along with the county. Sounds like there's some infrastructure issues that are just leading to all kinds of leakage, but also like a lot of people who are under massive water restrictions saying what are we even talking about? Why are we debating whether a golf course needs water when people have drinking water restrictions put on them and totally understand obviously all of that as well.

just at the end of the day, kind of like a massive bummer because I love Kappaloa and I love Maui and I love going there and all the people there and it's just stinks. I think this will be a really interesting litmus test for not Liz, not litmus test, but signal or sign or reflection of how Brian roll up is thinking where this tournament actually goes.

I think the odds-on favorite is probably omni lacosta like i have no inside info but like i think as i understand that that's kind of always like the backup one now that that's back up and running um that's interesting but you know would you do something at at huala lie the week yeah because they're that's where the that's where the senior tour starts do you do something that's almost a made for tv kind of thing do you do you tell century you know hey we're not going to hold the event this year or see if they want it because think they're locked in through 2036 and they've got uh you know and the tour is asking for bigger and bigger rights fees and they could see that as hey if we want to been been the schedule down

to 30 or 32 events and they're locked in at this lower number would that be one they'd want to get rid of you know you're forgetting an asset that the tour has now that they've not had in past years a place where the weather does not affect play they just go play this in the sofi don't oh that's interesting i thought you were going to say uh tour Pine. No, like Vodontal world. Yeah,

I hadn't thought about La Costa. That would be interesting to see that place again and kind of pro-ball. Are we positive they're going to have the tournament? Like the... It sounded like there.

We're not positive of anything. Yeah, they're trying to figure it out. I almost, I mean, back-to-back weeks at Waili would be kind of cool. I think seeing,

I always love watching Wilei and seeing, you know, all the big name player would be kind of cool. Okay, so Wilei, there's Wilei, back-to-back week is at Wilei. Well, why lie where they have the Sony, I'm saying. Huala Lai is the one on a different island where they have the senior event a couple weeks later.

So, which I'm sure would be in good shape to host and has some infrastructure built in. But yeah, I don't know. Because I think the big, the big loser would be the Sony. Yeah. If big name guys aren't going over already, they're going to say, all right, well, why am I going over for just a week? Unless it's Kutcher and then he's going to go over for six weeks. Yeah, it'd be interesting to see what happens with Century 2. Just, again, this is just my Wisconsin brain probably, but I mean, their home campus has a very high caliber golf course on it.

And I just, I know as much as they love hosting, you know, the event in Hawaii and probably bringing partners and clients and stuff out there. Like, it just seems like the ultimate goal would have to be to eventually get something there. Obviously, you can't do that in January. but yeah, I don't know. I think it just puts everybody in an interesting situation. I wish I had more kind of insight into what's going to happen. Moving on, number four. It's a tough one too because you've got,

it's the most weather and daylight constrained week on the entire calendar. No, it's, I know, and yeah, there's just not a lot of places that are just sitting around PJ Tour ready, you know, on a moment's notice. So we will see. It's a good test for everyone involved. And I hope they can get something worthy of kind of the season kickoff. But just a stinky, stinky situation that hopefully gets resolved. And hopefully they can get back to Coppolo next year.

And it's a weird, a weird blip. But could I throw a potentially really dumb idea? But like, sawgrass is like the most wired, like from a cable perspective, right? of like, yeah, I don't know if we get hospitality up in that for everything, but could they if you only have 60 or so guys for January? Yeah, but the overseed, you know, they would have to oversee it earlier, all of that stuff.

I mean, you know, if we're doing pie and this guy crazy shit, why not, you know, fly down to Australia, baby. It's a little made for TV stuff. Park, West Palm. Moving on, number four, PJ of America. announced some future tournament sites, KPMG Women's PGA.

This is obviously, of course, kind of ahead of and in conjunction with the Ryder Cup here. Some New York sites. KPMG Women's PGA is going to Bethpage in 2028. PGA Championship is going back to Bethpage in 233. And the PJ Championship is going back to Oak Hill in 2035. Any kind of instant reaction on this? Seems about right.

I think, yeah, O'Kill is a solid, PGA Champion solid, not spectacular PJ championship golf course. I thought Beth Page was set up really poorly in 2019 and was very one note and hopefully

shout out to Carrie Higg Yeah, glazes. So hopefully, hopefully is kind of set up a little bit more creatively and we'll see what Beth Page is like obviously after next week.

Yeah, my only thing is that I don't know, I've said this forever and it's clear that they don't care but the I think the only chance for the PJ championship to really get some sort of identity lies in the venues and it just seems like they're not interested in shaking it up other than just being

kind of like a C plus version of the US Open. So I guess I'll just keep doing that. Solly number five I love this one. You sent this over. Cowan Rafferty I hope I'm pronouncing that right. Undoubtedly no, but I don't know.

Zero chance. Calls a pro baby. wins Cowell and Rafferty wins the north of Ireland amateur to complete a career grand slam. And what this means if you've ever been over to Ireland, they've got all the honor boards inside and like lots of trophy trophy boards at all these courses

that host, you know, there's four tournaments. There's the north of Ireland, the south of Ireland, the east of Ireland, and the west of Ireland, and these tournaments move around. Our guy is the first person to ever win all four. That's incredible. He did it at Port Stewart this year. So I, I

I loved, I love this note. I don't know if you had any other, any other thoughts on. No, it's just wanted to shout it out at least at some point on the show. This was not, did not happen all this year, just for the record. Yeah, sorry. He won't the south of Ireland in 2018, the west in 2019, and the east last year. So he's pretty, so the west is it, the west is at Sligo. I think it moves around, doesn't it?

I don't remember. I know west is always at Sligo. And I think the north is usually at Port Rush, but they headed it at Port Stewart this year. I was talking to our friend, our friend Barry about it. Yeah. And I can't remember the east and the south. Just the south should be an old head, right?

Just an awesome, awesome record, awesome thing to go down in the history books for. What if he was a reinstated am? Oh, that would be brutal. That would break my heart. That would. Moving on, number six here. PJ Tour Champions Policy Board was voting this week

to eliminate Q school. This is reporting from Adam Shupak in Golf Week. I know he was also working off of reporting from Ryan French Money Q info. It sounds like these spots would be to reallocate, you know, spots and playing opportunities to players who, quote,

dedicated their career to the PGA Tour won multiple times and still have very little access to PJ Tour champions. That's according to a text from Jim Furik to Shupac. Furek's on the PJs. Champions Policy Board.

That's like who? He said, I'm not giving you any names. Yeah. Fierick said he likes to see the data. He doesn't want to base it on names, which I actually respect. I think that's a good way to look at it. But I think there's been five cards, typically, that have come from the final stage of champions to our Q school. I don't know if this means anything, doesn't mean anything.

I don't know. They keep bumping it up from, like they bumped it up from two victories to three victories in order to be eligible. I think like for for automatic status which makes all the what Stephen Alker like all that stuff of like somebody mondaying in and then yeah just keeping it rolling it makes it that much more impressive totally I know as a as a as a as a tour that is built to sell pro M spots and relive the glory days it's it's kind of I'd love to be romantic about any given Sunday in your cart kind of thing. but I don't know, man. I think it's kind of a celebration of the dudes you know from the PJ tour. If you really want to play, go be a reinstated am. Yeah, exactly. US senior goes to some unbelievable venues.

Go go play that. Number seven, TC, wanted to do a little corn fairy tour look ahead. We mentioned there in Columbus this week. We got some, we got a couple bangers left, I think. Yeah. We've got, uh, we got Oklahoma, yep, uh, the week after the rider cup. That's it. I think that's at the Patriot, I believe.

The Patriot. The Patriot. Yeah. So I'm sure that's an interesting place. It was at Jimmy Austin, the Oklahoma, you know, the OU campus course last year, I think. But so I think this is a new venue for them. And then KFT Championship, October 9th at French Lick, top 20 earned tour cards, 20, 5 are already statistically locked up.

Uh, the great man, Johnny Kiefer, just crushing people. He's having a Scotty like year out there, uh, in eight top 10 finishes. He's won a couple times. Um, he's, he's lapping everybody. Austin Smotherman, Neil Shipley, Emilio Gonzalez and, and our friend Hank Libyota. Yeah, already already guaranteed to go back to the tour. Yeah, he came out digging after the first kind of that Bahamas swing. And then, um, he's been, he's been locked up for a while now.

So, yeah, it's always, I don't know, I'll be curious to see French lick was a little bit, I want to say, underwhelming last year, but just, I don't think they, they set it up, right? Like, I heard some, some murmurs of some unhappiness from players. So I think year two there will be interesting because prior it was at, it was a Victoria National, which was a pretty stern test for it. It's like the hardest golf course in the world. Yeah. Yeah, just like, no thanks. I'd rather just not have my tour card, please. Thank you.

You know what? You can reinstate me. Exactly. Just a couple of, you know, it's one of those things, I think, just worth keeping a, keeping one of your eyes on as we, you know, especially as the tour turns into kind of the fall sort of optional. You can watch it or not kind of time frame. The Corn Ferry Tour guys are, guys are starting to play for some livelihoods.

It's always always really fun. Number eight, the Masters or 17, again, I don't know. The Masters teams up with Amazon Prime videos, sort of a, ultimately probably good. but kind of dystopian sentence that I hadn't really pictured myself saying. Prime Video is joining ESPN, CBS, and Paramount Plus as the broadcast partners of the 2026 Masters. This will add two hours of coverage on Thursday and Friday. So everybody has complained for years and years and years, I think fairly rightfully, that the broadcast doesn't start until 3 o'clock of the Masters.

This will add two more hours of coverage from 1 to 3 on Amazon Prime Video. that will lead right into ESPN coverage on Thursday, Friday. So I'll leave some of the, what does this mean for rights fees and who's getting into golf and who's doing what and all kinds of that stuff for somebody else. But two hours of coverage, that seems great. We would watch, would watch, can't wait. Any other takeaways, TC? I feel like you're always on kind of the TV and business making, you know,

the deal-making beat. I'm way, yeah, way too deep into, like, the puck newsletters. But, no, I think it's probably a little, not wake-up call, but, but a little just, hey, we're going to keep, keep ESPN on their toes. We're going to, you know, I think Andy Jassy, the CEO of Amazon, just got into Augusta last year. So, you know, I think it's, hey, get some of these streamers in the boat. Because, like, I know Netflix was, they were the ones bidden against NBC. and Versant for the

Versan or whatever. You guys are Versant, I believe. I'm in my head on that. But Neil, that's, he did that on Neil. God, Neil had,

I was supposed to the Randy Golf Spotlight. Neil hitting him with a Lido. The Lido golf course was, it was tough. He just, he wanted it back as soon as it came out of his, out of his mouth.

But that was a tough one. Anyway, sorry. Yeah. But no, I think it's, you know, just kind of getting,

getting that money in the boat one way or another, like in the golf ecosystem, I think the, the tours probably happy about that, you know, and it keeps ESPN on their toes as far as making sure that their coverage and, you know, all their offerings for the masters are up to snuff. So I'm curious to see how they stuff staff that too. Yeah.

Yeah. And how that works with feature groups, because really that's kind of the, you know, does it fill in that gap? There's always that one group where you're like, are we seriously not watching blah, blah, play right now? And hopefully that at least help colors in that gap. I don't say never, but I'm usually not a person that freaks out about not being able to watch it on TV until 3 p.m. just because I love the feature group so much. And there's, there's, there's, you know, aim in corner.

There's all kinds of cams. There's almost too many cams to keep up with. So, but for people that don't sit in front of their computer and have eight things going all at once, this is a positive addition to watch between one and three. Yeah. Last hole here, guys, last, last note. I just want to, what's up with the personal golf games these days? Solly, you were traveling, playing some golf. T.C., I heard you talking to Mayor Pete about your golf game briefly.

They got canceled this week for having them for talking airports this week. Yeah, yeah, a lot. It was a pretty interesting window into the YouTube versus X, the everything app versus Instagram, as far as the temperature and the tone on each one. Talking about the trap draw podcast, our sister station. No, mine, like we had our member guest last weekend. partner. We didn't play well. I think we won the party. We also won the closest to the, we won the Skins game the first night. I hit it to about six

inches in the closest to the pin tiebreaker and may have had to give up my amateur status. For real. I took a big wad of cash for that. And then I bet we've actually got our little club within the club, our Blue Man Group club championship this, this Friday and Saturday morning. So you be going out playing that. Greens are getting spicy out there, Sally. It's like Deegh golf season is just just beginning down here. I love it. Ready to pass the baton.

Yeah. It's just ramping up. So I'm, man, my irons are awesome. putting, putting's been a little hot and cold the last few rounds. Struggling with spin rates a little bit on the driver. Drivers spinning a little bit too much. Yeah. Solly, you got on an airplane to go play some golf this week.

Ben Hamine, Hotailing and I teamed up for the first time. We did a USGA four ball qualifier that we filmed. I'm not going to spoil it. We did not make it in case you saw that floating around out there. But Ben and I played the USGA four ball up in Charleston, West Virginia, actually. And we had fun. It's a tough competition. You've got to be like on, on, on. There's no room for mistakes when you're playing with that level of competition.

We did not make. I think we were four shots out of an alt spot, which was kind of like, if you watch the video and like if everything, you know, if the lip outs did all fell in and we would have stolen one blah, blah, blah here, we would have been in a playoff, but that's just not how golf works. And we put up a respectable score. Honestly, I have freaked out so much about the driver going all over the place. For some reason, after the creator classic, I switched from the GT2 back to my GT3

and started hitting it all over the map again. And then Atlanta, I played the GT3 and had the lefts in there, put the GT2 back in. And I think I hit my driver 12 times, like all within 10 to 15 yards of where I was aiming it. It was like one of the best I've ever driven it in competitive golf situation. Probably should have shot a lot lower than I did from those spots. But I was pleasantly surprised with how I got off the tea in a competitive event for the first time in years, honestly. So that was a positive development. I also came about that close to an ace on camera,

which the one shot that we had KJ up filming at the green too and almost saw it go in. But now we made three bogeys and four ball. It's just not never going to be good enough. I'm stoked to watch that footage. I can't wait. I love the competitive golf stuff. It's a lot more fun playing on Ben's team than it is going against them.

I'll say that. That makes a lot of said. Our club championship is going to be really interesting this year, I think. Yeah. Then I'll you win here. I thought you met your own want to be drinking like oh that's that's cool man I think Cody's been working hard on his game Neil's been playing good

Neil's not going to be there that's right I know I think it's great that fourth spot man there's there's we should do a member guest sometimes that's good idea for video speaking of videos I got you know I think the video I've been asked about the most from our non kind of non travel you know, non-like tourist sauce-strapped perspective

is the video I did a million years ago playing a golf course with no flagsticks at Jack's Beach. And so we've always wanted to reprise that one, which we did this week, filmed it, the hay is in the barn, added to the very full backlog of videos that we're editing right now.

And it was electric stuff. I won't spoil it, but very interesting. I won't tell you which way. But it was provocative. and I'm and you had a biker gang behind you too right yeah I won't spoil it I won't spoil it it was a lot there's a lot going on but guys that's that's about it I cannot believe we went two hours and change here I didn't see that come no did not see that comment I tried warning people you know everybody was I felt like boys were were frothing man get a humor in here it's just

just good vibes but uh surely we won't go along on any other content the rest of this. Exactly. No, we're going to keep it super tight. I think on the way out. We didn't really get to it, too. I do want to shout out Brendan DeYoung for winning his member. I think he won the top flight of the, he was the guest at the PPC Piper Glenn member guests. This is according to Yip Strickler.

Kind of one of the handicapped watchdogs. He was playing off a plus 1.9. He made 17 birdies during his five, nine whole matches. I think De Jong I think he led the board and Bernie's made like a couple different years He played a president's cup At least one

I stand with Brendan DeYoung That guy rules I'm made on him Whatever you can do with everyone Plus 1.9 Get out of here I'll end us on this note for real I think TC you set this over

Is a great note Just a rest in peace to John Harris One of the one of the Minnesota's great golfers Guy played on four Walker Cup team he was the last mid-am to win the U.S. Amateur all the way back in 1993. He won at the age of 41. I love this stat in 1974. He helped lead the Minnesota hockey team to an NCAA national championship

and also won the Big Ten individual golf title in the same year. That's good stuff. And guys, he was a reinstated amateur. He had a pro career, got his amateur status back, messed people up in the Walker Cup, and then turned pro again in one of the champions. So I just, you know, I've just a golf life well lived there. Sportsman and a, true sportsman, a fitting ending. Great man to tonight's conversation, I think.

But, man, guys, great being with you, man. This was awesome. Great being with you. Congratulations to your brewers as well. Deage for clinching the NL Central. What an electric weekend of baseball. Holy smokes. Massively electric.

I can't believe. I can't believe the Reds are alive. It's all going to get. settled during the Ryder Cup, which is going to be a weird thing for me, but it can be a fun final week. You should skip the last three days, come to, uh, come to Milwaukee, watch, what are you guys going to do? Can you guys just let us out? Don't you want us in the playoffs in case you have to play? Although I think the mats have a better chance of beating Dodgers than you guys do,

probably. Dej, I was disappointed in your guy Bob Gasser. I mean, he hasn't, you know, he's not a great outing. He didn't get touched, you know, he did all right. He just said, he quited himself, all right? You hadn't pitched to the majors and, like, like a year and a half, man. He had his whole elbow reconstructed elbow. Let's see you get out there with a reconstructed elbow T.C. You know, he's... Well, I mean, it sounds like...

All the proofs are going to have to do that. That's what I... It sounds like it's hot in the streets right now. Kids are getting like elective reconstruct... Oh, yeah. I've shouted out on the seamstarch bob, but you got to read the arm, the Jeff Passon book all about the history of Tommy John surgery. It's, it's incredible.

I do want to wish Sully, both Sali and Neal's entire leadership team. rest of luck this week in the fantasy baseball playoffs as well the championship game big week for you salli made to the championship I did not think we would survive this week with the Yordon Alvarez rolling his ankle on Monday that was a bad timing

but we made to the ship trying to go back to back and that would that would mean a lot that would go a long way for for me well guys and our Jags won this is a great sports week for your boy our Jags won today somehow as well to you We're going to do a ball-nowers this week.

Ball-Nor Bob is coming on, Mr. Sturm. Talk about his Packers losing, Coach Flus, a bad day for Coach Flus in the Dallas defense. A lot to discuss on the Falcons front, just a mind-boggling, 30-0 loss to the Panthers. All sorts of stuff happened in the week this week. Guys, I think that's a wrap. This ruled. Great, great chat with you guys. Thanks to Huber for coming on.

Rider Cup preview 3 p.m. Eastern Time, Noling Up podcast YouTube channel. Be there. We'll have happy hour, Thursday night, live shows after every round of the Rider Cup as well, of course. Excited for that. So thanks for tune in. See you there this week. Let's have a great week.