No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1086: The Incidents of Sergio Garcia

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast. Solly here, joined by my guy, Mr. DJ Pi. Dej, what are we getting into today? Oh, gosh, Sally, good to be with you. We got a good one today. You know what? We do a lot of planning, despite what people might think. We sit and we try to plan out future episodes and we look back at past episodes. We're coming off the heels of this Joey Ferrari episode that we did, which if you hadn't gone and listened to that, just kind of a real life breaking back.

Walter White sort of situation that takes place in the world of elite amateur golf. And that got us kind of just joking on this call the other day about like, you know, who are the bad boys of pro golf, you know, does golf have any bad boys? If you were, you know, starting a bad boy's Hall of Fame, who would be some kind of first ballot guys on there? And we're just kind of joking around about that. And you honestly kind of took the ball and ran with, with, I don't know if you're making yourself the selection committee of the bad boys but uh you kind of took the ball and ran with it and

i'm not totally aware what you've prepared but i'm excited to hear it today i feel like bad boy can be you know it can it can sound like a bit of a pejorative term but i was that we could apply this pretty loosely essentially like are you out there doing stuff right are you getting involved are you making some headlines you got to be a good enough player to people to notice any of this. You know, you break in the norms a little bit. There's some like, you know, throughout if we do, this is the first of many or the first of one of these series. I don't know if we're going to keep doing these things, but there's some like, I think we'd all agree this. Like legitimately bad stuff you can do. And there's just like some golf etiquette

you could break. And in the case of today's episode, golf etiquette, you could break many, many, many, many times. So I don't want to make everybody out. You know, if we call you a bad boy, it might be, it might be a term of endearment. It depends on how it's applied as well. I think there's bad guys. You know, golf has some bad guys. Yeah, bad boy and a bad guy are different things. Bad boy is a different thing. This guy's just kind of a bad boy, you know?

I think that's Dustin Johnson. Is he a bad boy? Yeah, I think he's kind of a bad guy, you know. He might be for all we know, but we don't know. That's what we're not accusing you of being a bad guy. We might accuse you of being a bad boy. It seems like he has some bad boy tendencies, you know. Did I tell you for a long time?

I used to call whenever I was hitting a draw, I would call it the bad boy I'm just like you know you're not supposed to be doing this man you have like you've battled a hook your entire life you finally got over it you're not supposed to dip your toe back into those waters and TCO is really like that like are you gonna why don't you hit him with the bad boy here

I know you're not supposed to do it but try to turn one over hit a little draw that's what we're talking about I guess is what I'm trying to say today's bad boy it can hit the bad boy as well which is which is what led to some of the incidents okay some of the throwing of things that maybe shouldn't have been thrown, but I was surprised at the volume of the incidents

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And look, we're going to throw this out lightly now, but I think there is an official, like, induction process into being a bad boy that we need to discuss. And I'm officially nominating that you can, we can use today's episode to conclude at the very end if you think this guy's a bad boy. Well, I know who we're talking about and that, of course, is Sergio Garcia,

who is a character, he's been a character in the game of golf for as long as I can remember, truly, first breaking onto the scene really with the Medina stuff and the duel with Tiger Woods and then you know kind of being a guy that like I said is kind of the the kid really like as long as we're sticking with some of these naming conventions I think Neil absolutely would have glossed him the kid when he first broke onto the scene and he's one of those guys that's just always been in our lives I feel like from a golf perspective we've seen him grow up we've seen him have some learning moments, I think, whether all of those have stuck is maybe a conversation we can get into

today. But yeah, just a guy that's always been around and always making news and always just flushing the golf ball. And yeah, I can't wait to relive some of these moments. I think I have, I don't know, I'm not going to give away the number of incidents I've collected here, right? And that's where we're going to cover first is just like, what are the controversial moments of this guy's career of this guy's life professional life uh there's been many questions over the years of his maturity obviously he burst onto the scene at quite a young age you know some of this was frowned upon and he got a reputation very early on as being a bad boy and you know there was i feel like we had the fake out like eight different times like all right sergio's matured now

all right now he's matured all right now he's matured and it's like all right well turn around Sergio is apologizing for something else. Sometimes multiple times apologizing for, for, you know, incidents he's had. We have incidents with referees. We have throwing of things. We have more incidents with referees, even more incidents with referees. Yet none of it's related to cheating in any way. I don't think there's any, you know, C word stuff that goes on in any of it.

But he got some referees got in this guy's way, sometimes of him chucking things, actually, as well. But I remembered most of these, but there were a couple I uncovered that I'm like, oh, yeah, I kind of, either I didn't know about that or I'm surprised at this one from Sergio. I feel like this is a good exercise in a lot of, a lot of the very recent ones come to mind. I mean, I'm sure we'll talk the bunker in Saudi Arabia. And I remember some of the, you know, of course, the one at the dinner when he's given the remarks. Like, I'm sure we're going to get to that. But it is kind of one of those things where it's like, I only have room kind of for like recency stuff.

in my brain. I feel like maybe that's a social media thing or a way that the news cycle works these days or whatever. But a lot of these are kind of just lying dormant in cold storage that I'm sure I have forgotten that I know about if that's the right way to say it. Or forgotten what the details of it were. And that's kind of what I had a good time kind of uncovering some of this. So if you allow me, I'll get into the very first one. And I'm kind of surprised. Are we going in order of severity? Are we going in chronological order? So it's going to be kind of up to you whether you want to call things, you know, severe or not. I'll build my own power rankings as we go. I guess I was a little surprised at the volume of

incidents prior to like 2007 did not get a, and look, these things are always really scary to do because you're terrified. You're going to leave something out or miss something obvious. If I miss something, please let us know in the comments. Please email me. I want, I want, you know, to have a full list of this somehow or, you know, if there's anything we forgot or definitely left out that we can maya culpa later on i would like to hear that but uh again and some of these you remember this happening but you don't remember where it was or what the details were but 1999 world match play uh i don't know if i got the full explanation on this or exactly what happened but sergio hits a very poor uh shot i believe on like the 15th hole of a match now that's

not right because it was earlier in the round because it's dewey we'll get there he hits a it's a snap hook it's a very bad shot and he gets visibly upset. It's the bad boy. Camera cuts away. And as he's like reaching down for his shoe. And he like, it's not an easy reach. Like he has to untie his shoe.

I remember this. Takes it off and chucks it at an advertisement board. And I watched this back. It actually goes into the crowd. I didn't remember that part. I thought it just like went to, like, bounded off the advertising board and came back. Goes into the crowd. His manager, Jose Marquina, had to go retrieve it.

and throw it back into play. Like, there's a lot of people around this T-box. He throws it back into play, gets on the ground. Sergio goes and kicks it, and it narrowly misses the referee that's crossing the T-box. Like, almost kicked a shoe at a referee. And of note of this, it is early in the morning.

Like, it's Dewey out, and he's just walking around in his sock on the T-box. Like, very much, you know, like a wet English morning, very much like, I don't want to be walking around. And he's showing no regard for any of this. Just not in a hurry to put the shoe back. on. I don't know if he slipped. I don't know what the shoe was actually to blame, but that was one of the first images we had of Sergio Garcia in 99 was just like, oh, no, he's blaming

his shoe for this and going to make a massive public spectacle about this. It did not need to be this big of a deal. But this was, again, not going to be the last one from inside the ropes. So he missed the advertisement board he was trying to, trying to hit. So it cuts away. You don't see him throw it, but like, you see him reach for it and it cuts away to get to the ball. And it comes back and he's got no shoe on. And there's a lot of people around this T-box. Like, it is not, it's not a sparse crowd out there. It's not like one of those. Oh, man, only a couple people saw this. Like, there's a lot of people standing around there. I don't know if he hit someone when he threw the shoe. Again, I don't know where we're throwing a shoe into the gallery to

begin with, but again, another one of those things. The George W. Bush, you know, briefing that that he had to dodge the shoe, you know? This was before that. I don't know if this was inspiration for that coming but um another thing we're going to have been in the fall right it's the world match place so this is after medina and and you know he's kind of the darling of of the golf world correct i don't have the exact date on this one but i believe it is in september also going to be doing a tracker on this uh for all the incidents did sergio apologize the will you apologize the conclusion on this one is actually inconclusive could not find an apology uh apology for this one, I did go through newspapers.com and search for everything. Sergio Garcia apologizes.

I went through everything a lot in 2013 and we'll get there, but I did not see an official apology for this incident from the 99 world matchboard. Okay. So if you were standing near that advertisement, almost got hit with the shoe, you think you deserve an apology. Reach out to us and maybe we can help reach out to Sergio or potentially his manager at that point. Class action apology-seeking, I think, if you were near that T-box. In 2000, this was a little bit of a minor one, but it speaks to his relationships with referees over the years. Here's what I'm going to say, sorry, before we get into this, and so I know we're going to

have a lot to cover. I'm going to give that four out of 10 severity. Okay. That sounds about right. Well, in terms of Sergio incidents, yes, but that's not a, nobody else is throwing their shoe into the gallery. That would be, yeah, yeah, yes. You don't see Peter Melnotti out there.

That would be a 10 out of 10 for Peter Melmottie. On the Sergio scale, it is a 4 out of 10. Knowing what's coming, that's a 4 out of it. Grading out of curve. At the 2000, Greg Norman Holden Invitational in Sydney, Sergio is leading by two with a round ago when he's told he has taken a wrong drop away from a sponsor's sign. After this incident, he walked away and twice hit a tree with a club

and then hit a buggy with it as well. I do want to also shout out. Joel Beale wrote a great piece in 2019 for Golf Digest that made accumulating a lot of this a lot easier. Gary Van Sickle wrote something for golf.com as well that it made it easy to accumulate this stuff. But Garcia would say after hopefully, even with John Paramore's rules and everything,

I will be able to win the tournament. Instead, though, he did lose a playoff to Australian teenager. Aaron Badley, and what was seen as a clear reference to Paramore commented, somebody didn't want me to win and he did it in terms of battle, you know, not quick. He was not quick to congratulate others during this time period, which would also be a theme through the next decade. There was, is there an apology here from Sergio on this one?

No, but funny enough, Greg Norman apologized to Sergio for improperly advising him on the drop. Turns out there was a local rule in play on relief from sponsor signs. And he did not call for an official when he took this drop. Norman was there, said, yes, that's fine. And it ended up, like, they caught it. Somebody called it in, I guess, or somebody mentioned it to a rules official. And Paramore had to run out into the fairway.

Sergio and Paramore, not great friends. It would not seem over the years. Also in Sydney, Garcia was told he had broken the tour's dress code by wearing a round neck shirt rather than one with a collar on. So that was apparently a rule in 2000 on the European tour. Potentially is trying to grow the game out there. John Paramore, another, we've mentioned him many times in the past but another one of the good characters just kind of a guy that always seems to be at there

always seem to kind of be at the center of these always love seeing him pop up on my my tv screen but yeah that's i could see that i could see the frustration and therefore we'll give him kind of a three out of ten i don't know if you can be walking around just whacking golf carts with a club mid-tournament i don't i don't love that and the comments the comments are what turns people off more i think yeah somebody didn't want me to win it's like well you i mean you literally broke the rule Like, it's spelled out. And you, and Norman has some quotes in there as well of it is our, it's not the referee's responsibility. It's the player's responsibility to know the rules.

I didn't know it. Like, that's where he apologized. He was almost like saying what Sergio should have said, which is like, yes, we are responsible for these rules and we should have known that. And we made a mistake. But again, Sergio, it comes down to somebody didn't want me to win. Like, no, you fucking book the rule, dude. Sorry. Yeah, this one seems fairly harmless.

Well, I think we move on. We move on to 2002, the U.S. Open at Bethpage. Listen, some of this is brought on by the fans, which, listen, this is quite recent in a lot of our memories. We can kind of picture what a little bit of what this might look like. I didn't hear anything out there like that. I've heard worse things that use soccer games, but. Sergio said they were yelling. I didn't hear, no, I didn't hear any of that out there.

I don't know. I get the same thing when they go over for the British Open anyways. Sergio was mocked consistently for excessive waggles and slow play at the U.S. Open, was jeered by the fans. Hit the ball, Sergio, hit the ball. But Rain, this is from Gary Van Sickles article on golf.com. Rain was heavy during the 2002 U.S. Open second round at Beth Page, where Tiger Woods finished it before it got bad.

Sergio would say, quote, it would always seem like there's one guy who's lucky when he needs to be. Grabbed Garcia, who caught the worst of it and claimed the U.S. SGA would have stopped play if Tiger had been on the course. Sergio would have his chance to take down Tiger in the final round, but shot 74 finished six shots back. Sergio would say he did what Tiger did what he had to do, but he did it because I let him.

Sergio at one point made an obscene gesture to spectators, as you can imagine what that might be. It involved making a fist towards the air and raising one of his fingers. You know, again, after his comments of, you know, if Tiger was out on the course, they would have called it, do we have an apology from Sergio? Sound the alarm, Dege. We have our first

official apology on the record. I think he might have been right about that one. I don't know if I would not apologize for this one. He should have apologized maybe for the other ones. But okay, interesting. Garcia sought out Woods on Saturday left a note of apology

on his locker. Tiger said he didn't see the note but appreciated the gesture. They shook hands as they crossed paths to meet with the media. Garcia would say, I was a little hot. I'm 22. Sometimes I may be my worst opponent. I was trying to handle it the best way I could. Sometimes we say things we shouldn't, but it's hard to say the right things over and over. I'm trying. This might be a new matured Sergio. Which it might be D, DG, because I got to fast forward five years until I have the next, like, notable real incident. Again,

I'm sure I glossed over several things from 03 to 06 and the tight time frame I had to research this one. And again, we got a lot to get through as it stands. I'm sure I missed some, but we're at Doral. Do you remember what happens in Durrell in March of 2007? March of 2007, Durrell. Well, I don't want to spoil any future ones, but does this involve a cup? It does involve a cup. Yeah, yeah.

This is, I believe Sergio is spitting into the cup that his other competitors will also be playing out of. Let's clarify the language around that one, okay? So he three putts the 13th green in the final round of the WGCCA Championship at Doral. And he's seen on camera releasing fluid from his mouth into the cup. Okay. Was this a thing? Did somebody like get mad that they were saying spit? Jimmy Roberts asks Sergio about it on camera after the round.

He admits to doing it but said there's nothing to it. I just missed that putt and wasn't too happy. He said, I didn't spit. I just let it go down. Sure. It's no big deal. As in like, he didn't like, he didn't huck to a, but he just like let saliva drip out of his mouth into the cup.

This is organic matter. Yeah, just release some organic matter. Jimmy Roberts presses him on it. He should have macatina, really. Oh, okay. He presses him on it, saying like, hey, well, I mean, look, other players like have to remove their ball from the hole. And surgery said, oh, don't worry.

It did go in the middle and it wasn't going to affect anybody else. Don't worry. I noticed that. If not, I would have cleaned it. Sure. So he perfectly spit it into the little tiny hole that the pin goes into. And it, you know, would not have gotten on anyone else's golf ball. This one's tough.

I'm going to sound the alarm at maybe a five and a half out of 10. I feel like. Yeah, this is this one. This one gets up there. Tim Fentium, of course, would not comment on disciplinary actions, but would say he's been a terrific addition. His record is blemish-free, and I'm confident this is a one-off situation. I'm not sure I'm as confident in this having just done this exercise,

and I'm not sure even to this point if that was a justified statement, but it would not be the last incident we would have even that year from Sergio Garcia. So is this a non-apology? There's nothing to apologize for? there was no apology there was no i mean jimmy roberts gave him a great opportunity he would say it's no big deal uh don't worry about it it went in the middle like there was no i'm sorry for doing this uh there was no none that i saw that there was an official apology god i haven't thought about that one in a while uh i like the clarifying language that's

that's helpful it didn't spit uh in 2007 at the open championship at carnoosti uh sergio a goal on to blame the bad breaks he got rather than give credit to Padrick Harrington. His quote afterwards, I should write a book on how not to miss a shot in the playoff and shoot one over. It is tough mainly because I don't feel like I did anything wrong. I didn't miss a shot in the playoff and hit unbelievable putts, but they just didn't go in. It's the way it is, I guess. It's not news in my life.

I'm playing against a lot of guys out there more than the field. This was just seen as not being gracious. There's also some stories. 90% of tour players, I feel like, are saying that behind the scenes. I think he just said it on camera. Yeah, there was just a big, like, woe is me and like no credit to Padraig Harrington who won in the playoff. And there's a lot of, it's not really documented very well, but there was some very real,

like the tension between Padraig Harrington and Sergio, I don't know if it predates this event, but those two were officially not friends as of the 2007 open. championship for how Sergio acted in the playoff, things he said under his breath to Padraig during that playoff, and this is not well documented. This is not something I have official sources on, but there are stories that float around out there about what happened between those two out there that day

and that being a driver and some tension in their relationship. Not sure I could picture two more different people. Not that I know either of them at all, let alone well, but based on everything you see and all the, you know, even their games, just everything. It's just, yeah, I can't think of two people that are much more different than those two. This is, of course, Sergio is wearing

the Canary Yellow on this day, is that right? I can't remember if he, I think he did wear the canary. I know he did an 06 at Hoy Lake. Oh, maybe that's what I'm thinking of. I was going to say some of it might have been a little bit of, you know, wish I wasn't wearing this fucking shirt type of type of tension as well. He is wearing, there's some pictures of him in

in all in like orange and red which does not look very good a precursor to the fireballs exactly he had green no he had green shirt black pants on in the final round I believe but yeah Tweedy Bird was 06 open championship I was a year before some quick ones here I definitely did not catch all of these incidents but this was I included this one because it does

give a sign of what's to come nine years after this. But the 2010 PGA Championship at Wissing Straits, he viciously attacked the edge of a bunker six times on the second hole in round two. I mean, the highlight is just... And again, everybody's made, you know, a swipe at a bunker at a bad shot. You know, you kick the sand a little bit.

You know, you can't believe them fucking sands in here. Six... I can't say how funny six swings in a bunker looks and how, like, possessed it looks. And to be fair, it might not have known he was in a bunker. It's a fair point. You know, I think that would become pretty hot in the streets later that week. Maybe just, I mean, it just had no idea I was in a bunker.

How was I supposed to know? I think it was on the edge of the bunker. You can't really see where the ball is, but I did see a funny news clip of them laughing and mocking his reaction to that one. Somewhat famous one in terms of making the high. I let reels of all the things you've seen with Sergio over the years. In 2011, in December, I believe it was, at a European tour event in Thailand.

It makes a bad swing on the par three eighth hole. And then just helicopters, the offending club far into the lake in front of them. Would there be an apology for this one? None that I could find. That one, I believe, just goes into the lore of Sergio Garcia. That one, if I'm remembering, Right. Like, the one I always pictures Rory doing that at Dural.

These two look very similar, don't they? This is quick, though. Rory, like, hits it in the water, takes, you know, he's walking down the fairway and then chucks it. This is like, like, whik. Yeah. Yeah, that's, I have no problem with throwing it into the water, I think. We just can't be thrown it into, you know,

throwing your shoe into the crowds and smashing carts and doing all that kind of stuff. Yeah. Somewhat tongue and cheek Yeah, don't throw your clubs Can I say on a serious note There's a couple people I've played with That have thrown clubs And I'm truly just like dog

We're good here Like forever I don't need to I don't need to do that anymore I don't know if you have a strong visceral reaction No I'm like I'm trying to think my last club throw I've definitely done it

Certainly you're right I've totally done it as well I'm not trying to be holier than thou But I think as a you know 37 year old man I'm now like I the stakes aren't that high man we can avoid throwing the clubs I think my last one was 2020 in Oregon and I saw it on film and I was like oh dude that ain't we were getting biker ganged and I was super stressed and it was abandoned crossings abandoned crossings I chucked it into the ground at least but it was like you we don't we definitely don't

need to be doing that anymore uh rainy Neil still contend that they did not play slow that day I I sure they do I would uh yeah harshly disagree I remember the tension there as well we have time codes on on on the clips of all those film clips that we need to go review it but yeah yeah again on the Sergio scale not that bad I don't know if we're still grading these but that this one

you know yeah what would you give this one two out of 10 okay this curve I guess we're saving we're saving yeah I know what the 10 is so it's kind of hard to you know yeah it was 20% as bad as that I didn't remember this one, but this one was from Gary Vensicle. 2012 U.S. Open at Olympic Club when his seven iron shot came up short of the third green. Garcia swung the club in anger so hard at the ground that it chopped an ESPN T-box microphone in half.

Sick. According to Golf Central Daily, sent a blast measuring 225 decibels through the headphones of soundman Marty Bunkum, who is listening to the in the broadcast. It's like the FBI meme. And again, the article says, Sergio bogeyed the hole in the quote, I don't know if this is actually what was said, but the guy that heard the two or 25 decibels, like, what?

Speak up. My ears are still ringing. What did you say C3PO is doing with the pole? Oh my gosh. That's, uh, what a, what a stray for our guy, Marty. That's really tough. Just listening so hard trying to try to, try to find anything interesting

or making sure the levels are right, just get completely blindsided. I can't believe we went right through. That's like one of those, you know, Somaliers that like can use the saber to go right through the bottle. And now we get to 2013 in May. Players. The players championship,

this is the first, first of the incidents that was, I believe, covered by the no laying it up, a Twitter account at the time. Is this on number two? This is on number two. I think I was standing right there. Tigers getting ready to go for the green, right?

Is that what we're talking about? Sergio is on the opposite side of the fairway as Tiger. Tiger had to move a bunch of people out of the crowd. And Sergio would allege that Tiger pulled his club, a fairway would of some kind, right as Sergio is getting ready to hit. He said, he was holding up, like Bryson. Whistling straight, showed it to everybody, getting them all lathered up.

It was like a maxi golf scene over there on the left. Sergio said he moved all the crowd that he needed to move. I waited for that. I wouldn't say that he didn't see that I was ready, but you do have to have a feel when the other guy is going to hit. And right as I was at the top of my back swing, I think he must have pulled like a five wood or a three wood, and obviously everybody started screaming.

So that didn't help very much. But it was unfortunate because, I mean, I might have hit it in there if nothing, hit it in there if nothing happens you never know but if i hit a good shot there and maybe make birdie it gets my day started in a different way woods speaking after the third round was suspended due to darkness disagreed with sir with garcia's assessment obviously he doesn't know all the facts the marshals told me he'd already hit i pulled the club and played my shot then i hear his comments afterward not really surprised that he's complaining about something uh which then not the sidebar then there was a whole thing

of like the marshal came out was like we never told tiger that he had already hit his shot and then it was like, did Tiger lie about what the Marshalls had said? Not sure if that was important there, but when told that Wood said that, Garcia responded, that's fine. At least I'm true to myself. I know what I'm doing. And he can do whatever he wants. Yeah, just a kind of weird one.

I can't really imagine being Tiger and having to worry about what's going to happen when I pull my five wood out of my bag. Like that's, I think guys worrying about a lot already. I don't know if you can really put that one. I don't know if you can really put that one. him yeah which again not that bad of an incident but it leads to an incident just 10 days later when asked a joking question at the 2013 European tour awards dinner if he'd invite tiger to dinner during the u.s open the following month Garcia said ingest we will have him round every night

we will serve fried chicken does Sergio Garcia apologize for these comments I got to think we get an apology for this one. I think this is probably the 10 out of 10 here on the offensive scale. And yeah, I think I remember backing off this one pretty quickly. Not only that, to age of this headline really got me, Sergio Garcia issued second apology. This was a double apology incident. To Sergio's credit, there was a lot of regret in this one. He said, I apologize for any offense I may have caused by my comment on stage during the European Tour Players Awards dinner i answered a question that was clearly made towards me as a joke with a silly remark but in no way was the comment meant in a racist manner uh garcia would later say about tiger he called me he

called me a whiner he's probably right but that's probably the first thing he's told you guys uh in 15 years that's true uh tiger would say uh the comment that wasn't that was made wasn't that was wrong hurtful and clearly inappropriate i'm confident there's real regret that the remark was made the players ended two weeks ago and it's time to it's long time time passed to move on and talk about golf. So that came later. So, but earlier, after Sergio had issued the statement on that Tuesday night, he met with media on Wednesday after his pro-am round at Wentworth, the site of the European Tour's

flagship event that week. And he said, I want to apologize to Tiger and anybody that could have offended. I feel sick about it. I'm truly, truly sorry. And I hope we can kind of settle things down and hopefully move on. He gave several other comments of like, my skin was crawling as I was walking out of there. He knew he had made a mistake. this one's really bad dege but it does there's a ton of contrition and there is like at least

a little bit i know he's been in these states for almost 15 years now at this point playing golf a little bit of english second language potentially area of forgiveness there like i i don't know it was a really tough incident obviously and tough one to relive but it's there's a so much of what makes Sergio frustrating is a bunch of this like bad boy behavior that he has no regret for and so like I guess I view this one just with a little bit of remorse of like dude I don't you can't say that you absolutely can't but I I at least get where he's coming from like that came out and I was joking and wow you write that down and that sounds way different than what I meant and it's my second language I'm bending over backwards to

apologize for him here but tough tough scene yeah this one I think think we you know he went through it when it happened and i think continues to probably feel pretty pretty horrible about that one 12 years ago uh whatever it was so it's yeah unfortunate regrettable all of all of those things uh just a tough one when it's like man there's a very very very very very famous incident uh very very famous cautionary tale uh just saying the same words and And yeah, that's just, that's tough. But I think that also is what just pours even more gas on it at the time. Which I think, like, again, if I'm bending over backwards to explain his joke, was like,

maybe he's joking about the fact that Fuzzy famously made a very racist comment about a champion's dinner. You know what I mean? Like, it's hard to say without being in that room. But again, you just don't, you don't say that. You're not doing that, dude. We're not doing that. You don't do that. You just don't do that.

You just don't do that. So again, later in 2017, this one just made me laugh. He angrily clocked a gorse bush that inhibited his swing during the 2017 Open Jibbid at Royal Burkdale and hurt his shoulder in the process, required medical attention. But he did play on. I did not catch an apology for that one. But just him angrily swinging at gorse and hurting himself was an entertaining image. We had a pretty good stretch there from 2013 to 2017.

during the Spieth Golden era, you know, it was all no real incident. Yeah, and we're going to pick things back up here because it kind of finishes with a little bit of a flurry here. In March of 2018, he kicked and damaged a metal side panel of the Scores Hut after three putting the last hole of the day. This is at the Valspar.

This was not witnessed by the tour and no fine, though it did, quote, impress his playing partner, Russell Knox. So it must have been a very serious key. kick after the 72nd hole of the Valspar. Russell Knox rules. That's just as an aside. Always was a fan of him popping up on the leaderboards.

We have another driver throw. This is in 2018 in April. Some frustration at the Valero, Texas Open. Some very funny images here on screen as well of him having to go look for it in the bushes afterwards as well. Who threw, was it, did Rory throw a club into a tree and have to retrieve it? The somewhat recent incident of throwing a club into a tree And I'm hoping it wasn't Serge Oaks is not on my list That sounds familiar

Yeah I'd have to look it up But the this is a good one on the screen Like you said from Dan Raffaport And the four part like This one I he shouldn't have to apologize Because the act of having to go into the bushes And on camera retrieve your own club After you just angrily through it

I think is punishment enough And then we get to 2019 Busy year for our guy, okay? He's, you know, now 2017, he obviously wins the Masters and, you know, we kind of, to your point on like, yeah, quiet little run there between 2013 and 2017, I remember it feeling like, and I think we even said on the pod, like, man, this feels different for Sergio. I'm actually happy that he won this. Like, you know, he's obviously had some ups and downs, but he's matured now. He's totally matured. The young Spanner has become, you know, he's engaged now and he's going to become, he would become a father shortly after.

that and whatever it doesn't last that long Sergio in February of 2019 was disqualified from the Saudi international for intentionally damaging multiple greens this was that long ago yeah this was in 2019 Martin Dempster tweeted just been out to the sixth green at royal greens and this was the only sign of damage on otherwise pristine green this probably did look quite nasty immediately after Sergio apparently left this divot mark yesterday. And it's like, it looks like somebody is like a day or two old divot that somebody hit like an iron shot out of that he did to the green and was disqualified for damaging five of the greens.

There's the famous incident as well from that video from that of him just absolutely going to town on one of the bunkers. One of the alleged quotes, which I will not say out loud because I don't believe that's ever made it into print, even though a lot of people know the story. He said something very, very offensive about what he thought the maintenance crew, tournament organizers should do about either the greens or the bunkers. I forget which one it was about, but it was quite disturbing. Yeah, probably nine out of ten.

Ten out of ten, depending on the veracity of the quotes, yeah. Would Sergio apologize? I hope so, man. This was a tough one. Yes, he would apologize. He said, I respect the decision of my disqualification. In frustration, I damaged a couple of greens for which I apologize, and I've informed my fellow players that it will never happen again.

This from Doug Ferguson, Sergio apologized in a statement and in person to the players in his group. He apologized in a social media post and in an interview at his locker Wednesday at Riviera. So this was the next time we saw him was at Riviera for the Genesis. He would say, my job is to make sure I deal with this in the best way possible and show them that I can grow, that I can move forward and I can be who I am in the right way.

I want to face my mistakes head on. My job is to go out there and enjoy my game and show everyone that no matter what I can be the best behaved guy in the classroom, I just hope I can maintain their respect. We'll see. We'll see. Keep cooking down the list. The next month in 2019 at March, there is a match played dispute with do you remember who do you remember this incident this is now six years ago

oh my gosh uh oh i do not remember who it was give me a hint you definitely do it was it was not this guy this guy was in some other controversies uh about caddies uh you know during this time here no it's not kegan you're thinking obviously the fight with miguel on el menez uh this is with cooch oh coocher Oh, my God, of course. They took this stupid photo afterwards. Oh, video. Video.

So Sergio has a put to win in their quarter final match, went a hole somewhat early on in the round. And it's like an eight foot putt. And he misses it. And Garcia goes, like misses it, goes after it pretty quickly and has a chance, you know, goes to tap it in from less than a foot away, but missed and picked up the ball. before Coutcher had a chance to concede.

If you watch it back, it's like, Matt might have had a chance to concede there, right? Or it might have been quite obviously implied that he would give him an extremely short putt. Like, this is like a tap-in putt. And but like Coutcher brings it up of like, hey, it goes to the rules official, not the Sergio, I'm like, hey, I didn't technically concede that, like what happens?

And then once he's done that, the referee rules, like there's no, like Coutcher wins the hole. Like that's done. That's a done deal. You're no longer in charge of this. It sounds like one of those fake, very fake question, by the way. Yeah. Like, yeah, what do we do?

It could have just done and not said anything. But I was just curious what the rule is. It's like, well, okay, now we got to call it. Couture took a two-up lead. And then so Coocher would say, like, I didn't, I said I didn't want that to be how a hole was one or lost. Like Cooch just kind of being like, yeah. man, that's not what my, you know, it was up to me, man,

but my boss just made me, made me call it. And Sergio replies, like, well, you can concede a hole then, like concede a hole back. And Cooch's like,

well, I didn't say that. Like, you know, I, you know, all I said was I didn't want a hole to be one or lost that way.

I'm not going to concede it back. I just said it was, it was unfortunate, you know? They had this big dust up. And then, you know, Will Sergio apologize for this?

Kind of? in the video he'd be like you know it's all good we're all good no shay needs to be thrown and kutra would say there's no no shade needs to be thrown in that direction he came up straight away and said i messed that up uh search have captioned on the post big it was nice to run into matt kutra at austin golf club today a lot has been said about saturday and most has been misconstrued we're all good here nothing but respect for each other and it's time to move on this video would be mocked wildly on the social media channels uh for the forced nature of this quote somewhat of an apology from from coocher as well this was kind of the golden era of these

types of videos right i mean this was uh we had the brooks and dust and johnson player of the year uh video if you remember that rat oh it was coming on with me that was uh what was that was that in reference to like that there was a fight on the rider cup plane or something that they beef yeah what they had some sort of some sort of uh beef going on and pj tour posted a video of them standing next to each other just basically to say like it's all good this one's fine no it was like i can't we can't let this thing come in between us and it was like the i'm framed but the trophy was in between them and it's like that's fine this bad boy is coming home with me and it was just oh it was horrid that was a dark age of pGA tour content but um yeah we they were just

lobbing it up to us everybody was just lob it up content to us in this time and cootcher would say in the video we are going over what happened with our match in the aftermath what's gone on in the aftermath is just incorrect wrong shouldn't have happened i want to tell you sergio you handled the thing extremely well uh getting in this kind of forced best best behaved kid in the class just go forward a couple months in 2019 still at the uh open championship at port rush it's a fifth t on sunday it's wet out there it looks miserable sergio t's off we can't see where the ball goes but it you know it's clearly not a good shot He's the last one in his group to tee off.

He's walking, shoulders sagging. It's just, you know, brain on the lens. It's miserable out there. His caddy, who is his brother, is walking behind him to the right. And, like, there's a blurry video of this. But, like, Sergio just throws his driver and hits his caddy. Like, throws it at his caddy, like, tosses it to him slash not really like a, hey, catch man. It's kind of like a disgusted.

Again, he didn't, like, overhand it at his caddy. but like threw it in disgust and hits the caddy. The crowd just, ooh, and it like stops his brother in his tracks, kind of like a, man, fuck you. Like that was, that was not cool. Does Sergio apologize? I hope so. Couldn't find one.

There was one. Maybe privately. Brothers, you know, who knows? Yeah. Gosh, I didn't remember that one. That one, yeah, that was memory hold. famously the the tour

goes from Port Rush to Memphis the very next week the Porter swing Sergio would gouge a T-box in frustration I'm screenshoting this one here just of like just classic Sergio position I mean look how much laggy got into this one

pulling the power chain there you can just see it some good action in this one Sergio kind of lays low for a little while and we get up to 2022 now. Wells Fargo Championship in May and I kind of,

I feel for Sergio a little bit on this one. Not what he says, but like he gets royally screwed on a ruling. Long story short, there's controversies he's looking for a ball. This is Wells Fargo year where they were at Avenel. I think were they or they're a different golf course.

They're not at, they're not at Quayle Hall. he hits it left of a stream and like before he can get over the stream to like look for it the PGA tour rules official who happened to be there starts the clock and as in as if they're looking for the ball and he's got to get up to this rock bed to be able to cross the stream because somebody points out that that's where his ball is he gets ready to hit it like oh just found it just in the nick of time rules official comes out of nowhere to say no that was four minutes and like didn't stop him at three minutes but like let him go all the way that way

we're trying to grow the game out here man sorry and djutor live picks up this entire conversation and sir just you want me to swim through the river like i wasn't looking for the ball there i was looking for the ball once i got over to this side like does that make sense like i knew it was on this side of the river and you can't really hear what the rules official says but like Sergio says so you're saying it took too long and then just kind of gives the rules official one of those like waves a hand out i'm like man fuck you and he pauses for a little bit and goes i cannot wait to leave this tour like oh i I cannot wait to get out of here. Just a couple more weeks

till I don't have to deal with you anymore. Which is, of course, in reference to him. This was a big deal at the time because it was kind of like of this rumored league. Like, he was going. The quiet part out loud, very loudly. Yeah. We knew Sergio was going prior to that

and we definitely knew he was going at this point. He now says, I'm going to play slow now, okay? To his caddy and striped an iron for a layup and then just proceeds to berate the official. He's like, that's bullshit. That is absolute bullshit. I mean, I'm a minute and a half over time, and you don't tell me. Again, he's right here.

I agree with his frustration at the rules official. Just the bad boy activity is that I can't wait to leave this tour that I've made $48 million on. This was, yeah, this really should have been where Charlie Hoffman stepped in. So this is why all these players are leaving this door. You know, it's because some of these hazards are mismarked. You know, we just can't be doing this. A month later, he would resign from the PGA Tour to join LiveGolf, which promoted suspension from PGA Tour events after that.

In September of 2022, he would withdraw from the BMW Championship after round one without explanation. He would later be fined for that. If you remember, Queen Elizabeth's death postponed the second round. So Sergio, who shot 76 withdrew without explanation. Do you remember what happened next? I don't think I do. He was next scene posing for photos at the Alabama, Texas football game.

Big text, yeah. Across the ocean in Austin. He also, he had wasted a spot that could have gone to first alternate Alfredo Garcia Heredia, who was a rising young player battling to keep his tour status, was a close friend of Garcia's favorite Rider Cup partner, John Rom. And then in May, 2023, he officially resigned. his DP World Tour membership amid the sanctions for the

live golf participation. A couple honorable mentions. There's a clip I couldn't really place it. This was at Crooked Stick. I believe this was a playoff event in 2012. If I remember right. I was there. He broke a putter in that one

intentionally broke it. In the fourth hole at TPC Boston in 2017, he broke a putter after a bad putt from off the green on that drivable par four. his lag went to like 13 feet goes up a slope comes back down he then breaks the putter then proceeds to make the 13 foot birdie putt with his three wood that's same always like that somebody can do that um Dege that is 50 minutes on straight on incidents from Sergio

Garcia I'm still afraid to ask this question is there anything I left out that comes to mind I'm shocked that you didn't have the Oh no The locker room Thing Like a locker room Where he's just berating like this tour's fucked to all of that stuff Oh my God see there it is

You know I can't Yeah You guys are all left behind on this tour and yada yada yada That's uh I mean that's a biggie right That is a big one That is a miss This is Just Googling this to find the date on this

But Sergio flew off the quote, Sergio flew off the handle shouting this tour is shit. You're all fucked. You should have taken the Saudi money that I believe was sometime around in the, as in 2020, early 20, July 2020, went on that epic. Right about the ruling, you know, the bad ruling time. Yeah, listen, that one should have been wrapped up in there. This is why I'm terrified to do these things and I had a day to research this

and I did not have a week. and there's just like a virtual guarantee that you forgot something that you're going to be very frustrated in but that one's a massive one. It's tough. Yeah, it's all of this, all of this notwithstanding still do miss

watching Sergio and like week to week and having them involved. You know, as much as he can, he can be pretty petulant and all of these incidents certainly speak to that. It's also just, you know, we've said it a million times.

It's kind of the people that bring a little bit of the spice to all these golf tournaments. that you're interested to tune in and watch. So it is still been a massive net negative, I feel like, not having them really involved from week to week. But there's, I would say, many, many more of these than not that still leave a pretty bad taste in your mouth. There were, and like we highlighted, there were always, there were always signs that it was

turning around and there's, you know, now he's a father, now he's this. And now that he's one of the masters, does it, you know, potentially go a little bit differently? And he proved to us many times over and over that he just cannot. help himself yeah and i and i think what's it doesn't fit into the same conversation but the stuff that doesn't get included is you know i remember like um the players went like when he he was in the playoff with ricky and he's battling you know he has like you could do a whole episode on him at the players and jackson's fans and him hitting in the water and him responding and him making birdies and

like him winning the tournament and him losing in a playoff and all of the stuff he's had at the players is just made him like such a fascinating character at that golf tournament you mentioned the masters like watching that breakthrough all the other close calls at the majors it's just uh i don't know man he's just such a he's such a necessary character in in my uh experience with the game of golf and i'm i'm just thankful for his career even though there's been a lot of blemishes uh along the way i know we know of him as a rider cup great but like i think the answer this question that I'm going to quiz you on is going to again kind of highlight that

the level I'm kind of giving away that it's big but like what what is Sergio Garcia's Rider Cup record what do you think it is? Just come up wins losses ties off the cuff trying to like he's probably played in what the 10 of them

something like that played in nine played in nine so for I'll say he's 20 29 and 3. In Ryder Cup matches? I don't know. 29 and 3.

Holy crap. He's 25, 13, and 7. Oh, I was saying 20 wins, 9 losses, three ties. So I was actually pretty close. Got it, got it, got it. Yeah, you were. Sorry. I thought you were saying he's 29 wins, three losses.

Oh, that would be notable. That would be notable. 25, 13, and 7, a total of 28 and a half points, the most in Rider Cup history. God. Yeah, they don't really just hand those titles out. That takes a while to earn. And again, this isn't about his playing pedigree or his accomplishments or the level

of golf he's played over over a quarter of a century. It's purely the character issues that have come about, the many, you know, many controversies and incidents. Some other, from quotes from other players that I picked up randomly about there, Kepka has weighed in at times, you know, he said it's frustrating to see a player act like that to disrespect everybody. An anonymous player, the Daily Telegraph had quoted, says, we are starting to wonder what Sergio has to do to get a couple of involuntary

weeks off. Bob Estes opined on Twitter that Garcia should be suspended for his continued misconduct. So made some enemies along the way in as many years of playing professional golf as well. But, you know, has also, like, again, I was just in some of the research, like has, in some the later times was super congratulatory to Justin Rose after the 2017 Masters and showed some like, you know, kind of sympathy and contrition, I guess, if you will, towards the guy that finished runner up and recognition of that when he was, you know, he was not the source, not the best loser himself, but recognized probably what Justin Rose was going through in that

time. And I left out a bunch of stuff that was just kind of like, there's a lot more sore loser activity than he had. If you remember, 99, he cried at the Open Championship and kind of refused to talk to media at that point. Sergis also has started a foundation as well that helps underprivileged children through golf and social inclusion programs. And, you know, it seems like Sergio and Tiger somewhat get along now. I know that I just bludgeon Tweety Bird in 06. That didn't make the list here really because that was more about Tiger, Tiger beating

him. But those two really, really, really did not like each other for a long time. And if I remember, I didn't Tiger congratulate Sergio when, like publicly, when he won the Masters in 2017. I think I remember that being like somewhat, somewhat of a big deal. The other thing I think I would put, just worth mentioning, I guess, is I was trying to think of comps to other sports and, you know, whatever. And I feel like a lot of what you just went through there is stuff that happened between

the ropes. You know, there's obviously the European Awards dinner, like the fried chicken thing, is an example of something that was not. but it's not like we're I don't think you have to dig I can't think of a ton in his personal life you know it's not like he's he's doing uh he's getting arrested or doing all that other kind of you know like things that you see from other athletes I guess just kind of keeping it in scale a lot of this stuff is like stuff that's happening on the field of play it's not like it's stuff that's away from away from the game and you know what I'm getting at it is a little different a little different scale than like looking at a lot of other athletes. But that also kind of just like makes it laid even more bare, right? Like I was, what I'm getting at is like I was talking to somebody about baseball the other day.

And they were like, what I love about baseball in a weird way is like, I don't know anything about these guys off the field. You know, like it, and they're kind of saying it a little tongue and cheek, but it's like the NBA and you see this now with like the whole, you know, gambling thing that just happened this past week. But it's like there's so much drama around who's demanding a trade and who wants this contract and who's doing this and who can't play with who and yada yada yada he's like man i will sit out and watch baseball every night i have no idea where any of these guys are even from

you know i just watch him i don't watch him throw a splitter and i'm like man hell yeah that's great i turned off the game and i i move on and i was like thinking about this through that lens and i part of me is almost like man i feel like i don't even really know that much about Sergio off uh like away from the golf course which is crazy for somebody who's so present other than his love for UT but that's crazy for somebody who's so present in golf for the last 25 years

but at the same time I'm like well no this would be like a baseball player who's just constantly breaking bats or yelling at fans or do it I'm like I know those guys do exist too and they're pretty universally you know shat-on so it's it's a yeah he's just a complicated guy but a necessary

complication I think well and it's it's it's not like Again, he wasn't doing horrible things, but at the same time, he wasn't, these aren't like a stodgy golf tradition. And Sergio is just like bucking the norm. It was like, dude, like, don't do that. Like, you should not, nobody, this is not likable behavior. This is not, this is not it. Very avoidable stuff.

And it, but it also just, I feel like it can land on us being treated. I feel like even in this, we've treated him with a little bit of kid gloves just because like he operates on his own scale of like, yeah, I don't know, throwing a club and hit, and his brother. I was not that big of a deal, but like, imagine if, imagine if Rory threw a club at Harry Diamond and it hit him. Like, that would be,

that would make headlines for like a month. He would have to speak on it like multiple times probably. And it just becomes, oh, that's Sergio being Sergio. And I don't know. I think golf fans want to forgive people. I mean, we're thankful for like the,

you know, the intrigue he's brought to the sport. Like, he's just an interesting person to cover and talk about. And when he's involved in, in the golf, you know, something's going to happen. It always, always did. Yeah, that it does.

And he just, and again, I left out, there's just so many, just whiny comments he made over the years. Just always, woe is me. And I did, I found it a little bit funny when he said, like, Tiger called me a whiner. He was probably right about that one. Like, that's probably the only true thing he's ever said about me. Or the first thing he's told, he said, that's the first thing he's told you media guys in 15 years that's true. That's a good quote. It's a good line.

I know. who's the next nominee for a bad boy what's what's floating or are we officially can we can we put him in the pantheon of bad boys I think he's a bad boy for sure I'm trying to think I mean you know it's the modern bad boys

is they've kind of all consolidated in one place I know I'm not the first person to say that but our guy P comes to mind Patrick Reed you know he's got some he's got some stuff that would probably be fun to For legal reasons, I don't know if we could ever go through his incident list. Allegedly, it's all alleged that he's a bad boy. I mentioned Dustin Johnson, some of his is away,

you don't talk about away from the course activities there. But Dustin's not out there throwing clubs and spitting, you know, what did you say, let it drop? Yeah, let it drop. He didn't spit it drop. Either of them are spitting. Let's be very clear. Yeah, I want to clarify that.

But yeah, I don't know. I would have to take a little deep dive myself to try to find some other, you know, more historic, historic bad boys. I know they're out there. Give us some nominees if you have them as well. You know, we know the modern ones because we've all covered them. But if you got the, there's some, there's some old like, you know, like Mark James and Ken Brown from Rider Cup days.

They're not as severe, not as long of a story as this one. But I know there's some, there's some bad boy tendencies in some of that stuff. and we're going to, may or may or may not dive into that in the future depending on people, how much people enjoyed this one as well. But I greatly enjoyed accumulating all the Sergio stuff into one list. It is a good, it's a good look back. And, you know, like I said, at a time like this where it's kind of a, there's less of these types of characters, there's a little bit of a wistfulness about like,

yeah, it was pretty fun when, you know, it is kind of fun. We need you guys. Yeah, it's kind of fun to get all. a rile of about that stuff, you know? The podcasters need you guys. We really do. Yeah. All right.

On that note, we are going to go. Thank you, everyone, for tuning in. Thank you to Sergio for providing this content shout to our friends again at Roebuck. And we'll see you back here next week. Cheers. Cheers.