No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1108: Brooks Koepka and the Returning Member Program

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

A bit of news to discuss.........Brooks is back! What does this mean? What is the Returning Member Program? And more, LIVE from an undisclosed location. Presented by Titleist - The #1 Ball in Golf. L...ooking to travel this year, check out East Sands Golf Co.: https://www.eastsandsgolf.co/nlu Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf The NLU email newsletter: bi-monthly updates on all things NLU: https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Be the right club Today That's better than most How about him That is better than most Better than most Ladies and gentlemen Welcome to a surprise edition
Starting point is 00:00:43 Of the No Laying Up podcast Solly here Mr. T.C. Olaas, Sali Mr. DJ Pi Greetings, greetings, greetings, happy to be here Cody is making faces at me from behind me behind the camera and I'm not exactly sure why as to what what's going on here currently.
Starting point is 00:00:58 But we're actually coming to this again, we're not planning for this. We're not planning to do a show tonight. We are here at Casa de Campo on a little bit of a golf trip. No laying up podcast, of course, brought to you by our friends at Titleist. You heard last night about how stoked Neil is about the new left dash golf ball coming out. TC and I've been playing a little golf down in Florida. DJ and play golf in a while. What are you excited about?
Starting point is 00:01:19 No, I don't play a lot of January rounds. Guys, I cannot wait to get out there. I'm excited for all of it. You know, I shouted out the irons last time around. I'm excited to hit the driver. I decided I'm not going to be scared on the T's this year. I'm not afraid anymore. Do you hear that?
Starting point is 00:01:32 I'm going to go out and I'm going to hit some drivers tomorrow. I can't wait. You're going to go hit some drivers in the wind on the coast on a Pete Dye. It's exactly right. I'm just going to swing hard. Just let it rip. Pedro Muirte. Guys, there was some breaking news today.
Starting point is 00:01:46 I don't know exactly how it made you guys feel in the moment, but I don't know how long it's been since I felt like the sweat, like the breaking news, something is happening in the golf world. It's time to take action. I got it about 30 minutes late after I landed. And I was just genuinely, again,
Starting point is 00:02:03 I somewhat called it kind of as a joke two weeks ago. I was like, can you just write the rules for whoever you want to come back? And that's literally what they did. Set a one-time amnesty window for guys to come back. And they did. Like, what's the general reaction to the news we heard today?
Starting point is 00:02:18 And then I told you last night that he's going to come back at Tori Pines. And he is. I guess, you know, there's been you might have had intel on that. I was literally just pulling that, those ideas out of my ass, though. No, it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:02:31 I think it's, um, it's, this truly like signals a, a big, I think it's a pretty big watershed moment with new leadership in the PGA tour ecosystem. Uh, I totally agree.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I mean, I think from a, just, there's a lot. There's a lot to react to you, right? Like we, we were kind of joking on the podcast yesterday where it was like,
Starting point is 00:02:52 well, I mean, obviously the barometer should be like how many majors have you won, right? And like setting that, but I'm like, that's weird for the PGA tour to set their qualifications based on tournaments that they don't own. And are they really going to freeze everybody out? And what does that mean? And what's the cutoff? And where's the line? And they answered all of that incredibly clearly today, which is pretty awesome and kind of a departure from what the last five years have felt like.
Starting point is 00:03:17 It felt proactive. It felt like they're going on the offensive, the communication and the, the, the, the, the, rollout around it and the framing of it was coherent and confident and organized. It truly, this is something that you would have never dreamed of from the PGA's war, even
Starting point is 00:03:35 12 months ago. Can you break down the actual specifics of what's going on here? We're going to talk about that. I'm not going to read the whole statement, but going to read some pieces of it. We're going to react to the decision to let Brooks Kepka back to the punishment doled out to Brooks Kepka. Are there any potential downsides in this,
Starting point is 00:03:51 in what they've done? This reaction to this amnesty window, which again, I did not see coming. The amnesty box. I did fly out of O'Hare today, and I saw the cannabis amnesty box before this broke. I was like, that's a sick idea. One time, no judgment. There you go. We're going to slip it in the box and you could just go on with your day.
Starting point is 00:04:08 You've got to do it before, what, February. February 2nd, February 2nd. We reacted that. The three guys that fit that criteria, what's going to happen with each of them and their individual stories. This valuation of how they're estimating this future equity, I have some questions about that. I thought it was four guys. Three guys outside of Brooks. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:26 The remaining three guys. Brooks has come back. The remaining three guys. Is Liv in trouble? I think is a question we got to talk about. And Joel Beale had a great article. I want to shout out on Golf Digest that I read five minutes before we went live. They had a bunch of facts around how this all came together.
Starting point is 00:04:39 So if you'll allow me, I'm going to skip the beginning part where Rolap sets the scene to basically say like, listen, our tour is going to be better because of this decision. We want to create some interest. Here we go. I also like, before you get there, I also like some of like some of like. his what he led with was like when I took this job I said that like I would I would look at anything and everything to improve the product for the fans of the PGA tour exactly so what they're doing is creating a new program called the new returning member program they said on December 23rd 2025 Brooks kept getting notified the PGA tour his previous affiliation had concluded they went out of the way to not mention live golf oh yeah well what has he been up to yeah that's crazy he's been breaking 50 out there and he subsequently applied for read statement of tour membership this prompted our boards to evaluate how we deliver the best version of the PGA tour for our fans, players, and partners with severe and justified consequences, which has resulted in our new returning out with like an M-Dash, which was thick.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I was just noticing the M-Dash was like, this is kind of-severe consequences, just so you know, we're not just getting run over here. I like just powering through the MDash thing and like everybody. We're all using AI, okay? It was a pre-AI M-Dash user. I'm glad everybody else is caught up. It continues to say, designed to provide an alternative path back to PGA Tour competition for past members who have achieved the highest accomplishments in the game. The returning member program mandates heavy and appropriate limitations to both tournament access and potential earnings that we believe properly holds returning members accountable for substantial compensation earned elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Pause. What does that? What does that mean? You guys made a shitload of money at Live. We still see you player. Like this original statement, we see you balling. We see you balling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:18 You earn a lot of money over there. there, but we, there is not going to be, like, you're going to get a little bit, you're not going to get the double dip here completely. Some of these other guys, we are compensating them with the equity program that you guys are not going to get to share in for several years. And I think the other competitive thing was sponsor exemptions, right? We're getting there. Sorry. And on the equity program, that's what some of the, you know, the pro golf critics of the world are saying, hey, they're overstating the value of this equity program. Either way, I think it's, you know, there's like, you're breaking the contract here and you're walking away from from real live money either way.
Starting point is 00:06:55 We will get there. So it also includes elite performance-based criteria that requires winning the players championship, master's tournament, PJ championship, US Open or the Open Championship between 2022 and 2025. Who won the 2020 on PGA? It was Phil McClinton at age 50. He is not included in this. I think they can get by was saying, look, this is since live golf came to fruition. Sure.
Starting point is 00:07:17 If you've continued to accomplish things, you'd be a great asset to our tour. I don't think Phil would want back anyways. What if the champion sort of ends up with our own, sorry, you're out. Their own returning member, new member program. Yeah, I don't know. It continues. It's strict limitations, which Brooks has agreed to,
Starting point is 00:07:32 include a five-year forfeiture of potential equity in PGA Tour's player equity program. Representing, again, this is their words, not mine, representing one of the largest financial repercussions in professional sports history, with estimations that he could miss out on approximately 50 to 80, million in potential earnings, depending on his competitive performance and the growth of the tour. It's like Brooks and Spygie. Yeah. You see, this is better than money. So these are IOUs. At the request of the PJ Tour, Brooks has also agreed to make a $5 million charitable contribution, the recipients of which will be determined jointly.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Evan Scholars Foundation, anyone? Oh, it'd be great. It'd be fantastic. We have a scholarship that could use a little bit more funding. We'd appreciate that, Brooks. Importantly, the returning member program will not take away playing opportunities from current members' fields will be expanded as needed. great clause there. It's only going to be expanded to maximum of four people and I don't necessarily think the other three are ready to jump. We're going to pick a very specific mule
Starting point is 00:08:25 to bounce. I'm sorry, Ryan Armour. The best part of all of it, if you ask me, other eligible players interested in seeking PGA tour reinstatement must do so by the time the returning member program closes on Monday, February 2nd. This is a one time, defined window, and does not set a precedent
Starting point is 00:08:43 for future situations. Once the door closes, there is no promise that this path will be available again. Supplies are limited. Come through. Yeah. It's like one of those gold, like one of those gold coins that they're only minting one time. They should just start running ads for this program on Live Premium. Act now. And you could be back on the PGA tour. So we talk a lot about the Brooks stuff. We kind of knew this was coming in some way. I don't know if we have anything more to add on. Brooks coming back, Brooks come back to PJ Tour, coming back at
Starting point is 00:09:19 Torrey Pines, like he said he's playing Torrey Pines and waste management. And then he's not eligible for... Yeah, we didn't talk, so we didn't talk about that. I don't think it spelled it out explicitly in the statement, sorry if it did, but not eligible for sponsor exemptions into the signature event.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So he's got to play. Anybody who takes this offer uses promo code PJ Tour to take this offer has to play their way back. You can't stack the discount. You cannot do not. Neil, can you stack discount codes? Neil can't stack. cannot. You have to play your way into the signature events.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Check it out. The Aon Next 10, like swing five, whatever, all just became more important. And you can't, you know, you got to play your way into the playoffs, obviously, and you've got to play your way into your category. I guess he's exempt through 2028, but you know what I'm saying. You have to play your way into the signatures for next year as well. So it's... Is he setting up a separate category? They are setting up a separate category. I don't know what that means for VJ and all the stuff we talked about. about yesterday. That's it right below VJ. If anybody should be pissed, it should be V.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Everybody just got bumped out. I am dumbfounded by this. And this is where it's hard to weigh in, I think, especially like in real time as this stuff's breaking. But even when you have time to think about it, it's just very, very hard to think of a solution where you're like, I think pretty much everybody's going to be down with that. It's like really hard to see it until you see it laid out.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And I'm like, no, like, kind of did it. The attempts to critique it online were some of the lamest attempts. at shredding this. Just desperate. Usually you post something on there. It's like 50-50 reaction to something. This was like 90-10. The 10% was like,
Starting point is 00:10:56 I don't even know what the downside is. If you're not getting squeezed out of the fields, that's one thing. If you can't get a golden ticket into sponsor exemptions, that's another thing. He's got to pay his kind of pound of flesh through the equity stuff
Starting point is 00:11:09 and charitable donations. I just, and the product of the PJ tour gets better. I just don't get like, yeah, I don't know who says, as no, so to speak, other than, I guess, the live folks who maybe would have thought to write their contracts a little stricter maybe. It sounds like Rom and Brooks's contracts are radically
Starting point is 00:11:28 different from one another. As far as, like, ROMs from what I've heard is more to ironclad, less outs, less like Brooks negotiated this well. And it's very funny. If you look at his, his, his Instagram, his last post was when he won his last major in 2023. before today. Never posted about Liv. Yeah, it's incredible. Yeah, we'll get to some of the other guys as well. I think it is, again, worth iterating.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Brooks is a big name with the major championship pedigree, but like, and it signifies something. Like somebody coming back is a bigger deal than like actually Brooks coming back to PJ Tor Fields. I don't think it like tilts the scale. Brooks is being involved in some of these tournaments isn't like a game-changing thing for the waste management or Tori. It's a little bit of, it's going to be some, some cotton candy energy in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:12:19 It's a tip pass. We're going the other way. For sure. It's a change in the momentum. Yeah, it is. You know, what is that? What is the downstream effect of that I think is still to be determined? I don't think this means Bryce and Cam and ROM are going to jump ship necessarily.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I think each situation is different. But like, you know, that is, I guess, the question standing out there right now. There is a, again, this is a big fucking deal. There is a one time you can come back, suffer these. consequences right here and and play on the PJs. There is no guarantee. But they also said in that last sentence, we will continue to aggressively pursue anything that enhances the fan experience, makes the PGA tour stronger.
Starting point is 00:13:01 You think there's some bluffs to be called or something? For sure. Bryson's say, I will come back, but you got to wave this. Well, A, I think Bryson has, like, some people were tweeting, Bryson's got a lot of leverage now with his renegotiation. Your guy pro-golf critics said, I always hoped Brooks wouldn't allow himself to be propagandized. But for him to get the opportunity
Starting point is 00:13:20 back to play on his terms, he's going to do slash say whatever it takes on their terms. 60 minute style interview with someone in the corrupt golf media up next. That sounds like your music. I'm just so funny. Yeah, I'm thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Literally propaganda for four years. The thing that I was going to say that the tip on the tip pass momentum vibe, kind of said this, even going back to, you know, Christmas and the whole, like, he's not, even when he gave up his contract, the first thing I thought was like, man, the party just got a lot less cool once one of the cool kids leaves. And now, not only do you have him leave, then you have him come back and then you see the reaction that everybody's like,
Starting point is 00:14:06 fuck yeah, this is great news for, like universal. You have like a one-time chance to wipe out everything you did. Yeah. And I just, if you don't, God, I don't know what that. So here. Bowling Brooks and Jettas and like that's going to feel bleak. Here is what is, it took me like an hour after this thinking about it to like fully realize is what the tour has now done is it is making Rom. Bryson and Cam. It is, they're making you sell out for a second time. Like you have already sold out by going to live, way less competitive tour, way more money. There's no way to describe going to live other than you sold out.
Starting point is 00:14:40 It's clearly not, you know, maybe at the time for everybody, but ROM you could say this is where the best players are going to be. be and that didn't end up coming to fruition. But now this is, you can come back to the PGA tour or you can, like, I stay with Liv is a second sellout. And so for Rom, like, you got a ton of upfront cash, but the way I understand his deal, it is not all upfront. And like the 300 plus million or whatever, I have no idea what he's earned. I would estimate somewhere around 100 for Rom so far to this point. Big upfront, a couple of years having played, I would estimate that, but there's still a ton to be earned. But is what is presented here, this amnesty, this comeback and not being able to, you know, giving a couple hundred million maybe in future live earnings enough to get them to come back?
Starting point is 00:15:26 It's a big question, man. Like you're $100 million richer. Again, I'm estimating that. Now does what you want to do with the remainder of your professional career change? Are you this dedicated to Legion 13? Like, it's a serious question. Like, you got to make that decision again. Brooks had to give them so much money to not play the league.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Exactly. That's wild. Think about somebody paying that much money to not play in your league. Where does it leave someone like one of the younger guys? Say like David, David Pooge or someone like that. You're in a year. Or like, hey, we'll let you come back to the Corn Ferry Tour or come to Q School and play your way on.
Starting point is 00:16:04 I think you're out of year. I think it's like if we're going to offer an amnesty here, the other guys have to pay the year. There's got to be a penalty. There has to be. I think that's like, that's a potential. I think also if you're if you're
Starting point is 00:16:18 Guy Kennings in the DP World Tour that feels like a massive massive opportunity as well right like he's in such an interesting spot to break that down you're saying let's say that one of the guys one of the people outside of these four guys yeah Hatten decides to leave but can't come back
Starting point is 00:16:36 immediately to the PJTor you're saying they can't play the DPA tour yeah even Rom right like let's say Rob doesn't take the deal but says all right I'm gonna I think I can hold out for a better deal and I'm going to bet on my game to win. Let's say Rom thinks he's going to win the Masters this year, win the U.S. Open this year and he does. I think Rom has a leg to stand on as far as.
Starting point is 00:16:58 All right, I'm the reigning Masters chance. There's got to be a deal out here for me. Yeah. Yeah. You got to call. Do you think either of the other three will jump in this window? Like, gut, just. I don't think Bryce and, like, wants to be back that badly.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I don't, I think, I don't think it means that much to Cam and I think Cam does feel a piece. Cam's like, no, I get to spend more time down in Australia. And I like the team thing and that's fine. And I think Rom is, Rom has to be livid. Like, he's got to be just in, like, furious wants to beat the shit out of someone. This is his own making. I feel zero sympathy for Rom on this.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I don't think any of the other three will jump in this window. I'd be surprised if they did. But I had to get, if I had to place a bet, I would be in the same spot as here. But if one does, Rom. I would say all three will. I think if one more does, I think it is time to flee the ship. It's time to flee the ship.
Starting point is 00:17:49 And what was the thing you floated earlier that if it does get down to legal stuff, almost daring? Yeah, somebody sent this to me a DM. Sorry, I don't know if you want me to credit him with it as well, but his good thought he brought up
Starting point is 00:18:01 stuff for years ago. It was like, all right, if you're wrong, let's break your contract. Okay, live sues. Okay, let's go to court. I'd like to depose, I'm speaking as wrong, I'd like to depose Yasser
Starting point is 00:18:11 as part of this. part of this, call the bluff on that and Liv would never want Yasser to get to pose. Like, all right, let's bring up, let's bring up some of the promises that Liv made to Rom. I was going to probably countersue and say, hey, this was a breach of contractor. You know, could you call Liv's bluff on suing you? What's Liv's appetite to continue if Rom, like, publicly wants out?
Starting point is 00:18:32 Like, you're going to sue him to, like, make him stay and everybody dance now. Go to Bolingbrook. Like, at what point does it, like, look, it is, it is that meaning of like, Bolingbrook. Can't wait to see how they wriggle their way out of this one. Oh, alas. And they go like,
Starting point is 00:18:45 Liv has died many times in my mind and they just keep going. Like they're extremely tough and just will not die. They did put out a statement today too. It was a really, really profound statement. If you'll let me find that one. It was where the best players of the world like to play. We were made.
Starting point is 00:18:59 We're the global tour. Brooks Kefka is one of the great players from the outset. Liv was a sick bit. They used to do bits. Yeah. Liv used to do bits and make sure you just. They should have done a redux of the PJ Tour statement. I was wrong about Norman.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Like Norman, they needed Norman. From the outset, Live Golf as champion in an open ecosystem and freedom for all, not just for a limited few, one that supports players' rights to compete across various platforms, reinforcing the belief that the growth of the game is best served when the game's best players are empowered to seek the most competitive environments around the world. Challenge that to say, well, do you like Rom go play the players next year if you wanted to?
Starting point is 00:19:35 Lives Golf vision remains unchanged to grow the game of golf globally. And as that vision gains momentum across the broader, golf landscape. The capacity to deliver on it continues to strengthen by expanding pathways and opportunity beyond any single institution or interest. Pathways. They gave three spots. There's three open spots
Starting point is 00:19:53 this year and they keep adding U.S.-based events. Other than that they've nailed it. Somebody pointed out this last paragraph is like just a regurgitation in some way of the last paragraph of the PJ Tour's prior statement, which was as the world's golf league, LiveGolf continues to offer the best professional golfers
Starting point is 00:20:11 the most competitive, challenging, and lucrative environment in which to pursue greatness on a global scale. Long live golf. So if I'm, if I'm, live, I would have been panicked long before this, but this is a, it would take one more guy leaving for me to be panicked
Starting point is 00:20:27 about whether or not this thing continues, I think. Because I think it could, I don't think this is the domino, but ROM leaving could be the domino. If you were Scott O'Neill, what would you do next? I have not once thought,
Starting point is 00:20:41 like, they don't act rationally. My brain would be like to make a rational move, but they don't act rationally. And Scott might not be irrational enough for the role. Like that's the thing about Norman. You did not know what he was going to do next. To your point, if you can hang on to everybody else and it becomes kind of business as usual outside of this storm, then it's, you know, it's not a, it's not great. I think it's very, very bad for the league, but it's not like a death blow to your point.
Starting point is 00:21:09 So you focus on getting Bryson re-signed and trumpet that and be very pumped about that. that and then put ROM out there front and center, I think. I don't know how, like, I don't know what else you have to play. A lot of these young guys that are, you know, they have signed the McKibbons and Pooge and like some of those guys, but it's like, I don't know what. But also like Eugenio, like a lot of Chikara left already. I just think those are tough stories to tell. Lori Cantor. Of course. My boy. I think those are just tough, uh, stories to tell in contrast to Brooks Kepka, who everybody knows just left for the league that everybody knows is. It's a tough battle without your big horses.
Starting point is 00:21:47 I do have some questions. Just something that I'm sure somebody could fill us in on on how they reach $50 to $85 million. That was my next thing. It seems like, hey, it's basically valuing on a five-year base. It's valuing it $10 million a year. I'll go back again to our guy, our favorite Duke grad, pro-golf critic.
Starting point is 00:22:09 He said there's also no real financial. financial penalties here tied to a program that doesn't really exist and there's no market for yet, which I mean, I would say that, yeah, there probably is a market for it with SGS and, you know, or SSG or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Equity at a tour that has little billions of dollars, not even counting the NFT's. That just got stronger, yeah. I think where I will put my hand up as and admit my ignorance is like if somebody asked me,
Starting point is 00:22:39 just explain how that equity program works. I'd be like, oh, I have no, I have no idea. I don't know how they're getting to these numbers. I don't know where. That stuff still makes my head spin and I need to spend a lot more time to explain. It would be easy and it's like not really worth caring about, but it is like, you know, you could basically take equity in this. It's basically like sitting like an investment.
Starting point is 00:22:58 You're invested in the PJ tour. This can, you know, it might be, you could cash it out now for 10 million. And we're telling you in 20 years when you're retired, it's going to be worth $85 million. If you keep letting it go, keep letting it best, keep getting more starts. You can earn more shares. Like, that's kind of what they're selling them on. They can't sell it until they can't let it go until they're 50. They're not eligible to do that.
Starting point is 00:23:18 And they said, Brooks is ineligible for five years. And then he's ineligible for FedEx Cup bonus for one year. Is that correct? I don't, I don't. I'm only working on the statement as of right now. So even if you cut it in half and said, all right, you know, it's like he was worth $5 million a year, which I assume is what he was. would be entitled to as someone who's won five majors in the way that the calculation works,
Starting point is 00:23:45 but also like that current players are in that pot of money. Like it's a really, I think it's really interesting that the tour put a dollar value on it. Totally. And showed their work a little bit and said, yeah, like, this is the deal, guys.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Like, there's real money in play here. And this is what like people that were very close to the situation were trying to get in front of ROM before he made the deal in 2023 and he literally wouldn't pick up his phone. Like, hey, here's what's coming on. PGA tour here to the again if all of this is right did Brooks even make money off of going to live like probably you know especially if his game had dipped as much as it has which was a driving
Starting point is 00:24:25 factor in him actually leaving he was unsure about his game but like if rom I don't know man I have to look at the exact math was it worth all of what you gave up from a competitive standpoint in your career with a fast cash then and Brooks is finally acting like somebody I would, in a way that I would think people would act, which is like once you get to a certain point with money, I've got so much of it. What do I really actually care about?
Starting point is 00:24:52 It's whatever I gave up here. Let's say he gave up $20 million plus the potential earning. It could be, you know, it's really hard to estimate what he gave up. But he's finally saying, yes, this is, this is that extra incremental money, now that I have what I have is not as important as competing as where I want, where I want to compete. I think there's also waiting for that. There's also, who's to say Brooks?
Starting point is 00:25:15 Let's say Brooks lays an egg the last two or three years. I think Brooks is coming back is almost a sympathetic figure. I don't think the second guy that comes back is a sympathetic figure, but I think leading the charge back, people are going to be drawn to that and, you know, take to that. And I think like Brooks can recoup some of this money too via, like, like he's getting more famous by the moment. and oh, that's the live guy that came back
Starting point is 00:25:43 that's also won five majors and like he can keep his Nike contract now and all that stuff. And I think that's like Brooks is going to make out just fine from this regardless of if he makes another cut ever. Which is where I kind of come back to maybe tying all this up is like where I don't think the sympathy extends is like I'm holding out again for a better deal
Starting point is 00:26:02 and I'm going to really make fans like, you know, go through it even longer. Which feels like the wrong thing. Which feels like kind of some of the other guys we're talking about. but I don't know. I want to shout out. We're not going to get into the details of this.
Starting point is 00:26:14 We will say this for this upcoming Sunday, probably. We obviously couldn't wait until Sunday to break this down. Joel Beale had an excellent article for Golf Digestco. Check that out. Had a bunch of details in there about the timeline of all of this. Kepka coming to Pontevira on last Friday, January 9th to discuss terms, how fast this kind of all came together. He had a bunch of facts that I hadn't seen reported anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:26:34 But, you know, how he consulted with the, you know, the various boards and all the leadership. groups within the tour and the players basically on what he should do and how he should make this decision. Do you think him playing those four DP World Tour events in the fall was like a show of good faith? Potentially what I'm like I mean what I'm going to do
Starting point is 00:26:54 I'm going to put some skin in the game here. Potentially. It's it's hard to say. In there he also says the tour believes Rom has long regretted jumping to live and some think he only left expecting Piff to finalize a deal with the Torah eminently. More pressing his rider cup eligibility is now
Starting point is 00:27:10 uncertain, perhaps pressing him back to the tour. DeCambeau's the wild card. Whisper suggests he wants out of his live contract when his live contract expires this year. It's, oh my God, it's going to be fascinating. Man, it's going to be absolutely. Today was fascinating. This whole thing is fascinating.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I can't believe they went through with it like in the way it's just such a, it's such like a strong, clear early win for roll app. of like, no, like, you know what? I don't care. I wasn't here for all of that. I don't care about the scar tissue. We're going to do the logical common sense thing here.
Starting point is 00:27:47 So wait, he's one of the most popular players. Yeah, why don't we just bring it back? Yeah, everybody wants to watch him. No, I think we just get him on. And then Brooks said, like, I think he said to Aeman, right? Like, I'll, I plan to. It's got a way. I'm paraphrasing me, I got a ways back and I need to earn that respect with each
Starting point is 00:28:02 individual wanting to do that one-on-one. So do we think, all right, and then. That I don't think is going to come from anybody else. I don't think that penance is going to be paid by any of the other. There was that minimum number of events. It was minimum 15 events. Yeah. Do you think it's like, all right, you're playing the John Deere and you're playing?
Starting point is 00:28:20 Well, he's 15 events and you can't play the signatures unless you play your way in, which also, look, I know I'm being sports talk radio guy here and maybe Brooks isn't in the greatest form ever. But the whole thing with Brooks, man, is like when it matters, he fucking goes up. And so if you're telling him like, hey, man, you're, either you either need to show up and play your way into these big limited field guaranteed money events with all the best players in the world or you're going to john dear and 3m and you got a long summer of playing windham and events like that like i wouldn't be surprised i'm not saying he's going to come light the world on fire but every time in his career when he's been healthy yeah he has
Starting point is 00:28:59 showed up and been that dude and i fucking hope he is again because it would be awesome to watch Tori. Yeah. Show up. Oh my God. I mean, the waste management. No, Scottie's playing that one. He's not going to know. Yeah, man, what a day. Give some bit, like just from a week to week perspective, give some big juice to Tori. For sure.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Second event of the year. Yeah. Third event of the year. And so it goes Amazon. So it goes Sony. Sony, which is the kickoff the opening drive, which I know you're pumped about. Amex, which Scotty's going to win. Then we get to Tori. Then we get to Phoenix. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:34 And then what, RIV? Then Pebble. Pebble and then Rive. Which, by the way, sign me up, man. Massive L. Who says no? Massive L on the tour and golf's part of not airing old Capulua. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:50 I think that's time to end the show. We got a dinner reservation in five minutes. Thank you, everyone, for bearing with us for this live special emergency pod. Thank you for Cody for getting everything set up here in the Dominican. and hopefully the connection was good enough. It was a little shaky earlier. And sorry for the photo bombing. We may have had different parts of this.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Thank you to Luke Elvey for logging on. Excellent takes as well. A lot of good takes on the everything app. That's officially a wrap. Cut TCs, Mike, please. Thank you for tuned in. Shout out to Titleist. Cheers, crack on.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Shout to everyone. Everyone. And Brooks.

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