No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1112: Scottie gets #20, P Prevails in Dubai + Distance Update

Episode Date: January 26, 2026

Scottie wastes no time as the world number one wins in his 2026 debut at the Amex for his 20th career tour win while P wins on the DP World Tour in Dubai. We react to both tournaments plus some news and notes from the Champions Tour, TGL, LIV, and a distance update development from the USGA. We also preview the upcoming week at Torrey and the LPGA season debut plus our Nebraska trip film which will debut on our YouTube channel on Wednesday night.   Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro / Amex Recap 35:45 - PGA Tour News + TC’s Notebook 42:15 - P’s win in Dubai and DP World Tour Notes 57:00 - Rory on Rahm/Hatton paying fines 1:03:45 - USGA Distance Update Development 1:26:00 - La Sasso’s move to LIV 1:36:45 - Nebraska trip and film Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nolayingup.com/esf⁠ Support our Sponsors: Titleist Golf Pride SoFi Arccos If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Nest⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠nolayingup.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

be the right club today that's better than most how about him that is better than most better than most ladies and gentlemen

welcome back to the no laying up podcast brought to you by our friends at title of sally here we got a fun one tonight big agenda we got a rinse and repeat do the whole scottie thing we got pee over at the hero in in dubai rory had some comments in dubive

because of course he did Blades Brown, an update from the USGA on the distance issue, some live golf news, of course. And on the back end, we're going to talk a little bit about the Nebraska trip that the Schuster boys took last summer in our film that will be out later this week. Joining me, Mr. Neal Schuster. Hello, Neil. How are you? Greetings. I'm digging out, gentlemen.

Yeah, how much snow you get? It's got to be at least 12 inches, nonstop since 6 a.m. Got my strain and shoveling. My neighbor came over with it. He's got a snow plow on the front of a wrangler. Just hooked me up with the driveway plow. We're feeling great tonight. How the Florida boys doing?

75 inside. The guy couldn't rub it in today. I'm doing up here. I know. Today was like truly a day. It was like, hey, we're not celebrating this to anyone. We're not the country's in pain right now.

TC is here. Hello, TC. Hello. Hello. I'm doing great. Yeah, Sally, no, no complaints whatsoever. I hit some golf balls.

How about that? It's some golf balls yesterday. Well, take us to our, to our opener here, TC. Well, first of all, a little shout out to Voki Wedges. We got the new SM 11s coming out. It was busy starts of the week in Palm Springs as the new SM11s, launched on the PGA tour. On Thursday, 52 players immediately made the switch.

52. I mean, that's like, what? Over a third of the field. Russell Henley, Ludwig, Johnny Kiefer, all put full sets of SM11s right in the bag. That all added up to 149. new SM-11 models in play, making it the most played wedge model in its first week on tour.

The same story on the DP World Tour with the SM-11 being the top choice of players at the Hero Dubai Desert Classic in week one. That is a lot of trust in Voki Wedges and entitles tour reps like Aaron Dill and Will Harvey have the job of fitting the best players in the world with the most played wedges on tour, making sure they have the tools to execute any shot required.

Neil, you've hit these things. I was just out, yeah, I was out, I got out of the snow, was out in Carl's Bad and guys move from the T-Grind to the K-grind. It's all about the fitting. That's all I'll say. If you're thinking about getting new wedges,

SM-11s, they're dialed, baby. Don't try to come up with a combo on your own. Yeah, let the people that, like, know what to look for, tell you what to do. It will help you hit it with a lot more confidence. And don't have too much pride about bounce. Bounce is stupid. We can take that offline.

But don't get fit. Do people flex on bounce? Is that like a thing? I think they do. like, oh, I don't need any balance on my wedges. I play knives. I think people do flex on that stuff. I think you should play the right clubs for you.

And you should get fit to figure that out. Well, you know what, Neil? The new SM-11s are available for fittings now, and they will be in golf shops worldwide on February 20th. Head to Titleist.com to learn more. Guys, we've done this one before, but I've got to go through the play-by-play here for a little bit. Seawu Kim took a one-shot lead to the final round

over Scotty Sheffler and 18-year-old Blades Brown. Scotty birdied the opening hole, but bogey the second. Then he birdied four, five, seven, eight, 11, 12, 14, and 16. It was long over by the time he dumped one in the water on 17. Had a little tiger effect there on that final pairing. Sea, who was nowhere to be found in the final day. He shot even finished T6. Blades Brown had a rough day.

T.C. was celebrating the streets to see Blades collapsing in the final round, shooting a 5th, shooting a 74 to finish T18. Big group tied for second, Jason Day, Ryan Gerard, Matt McCarty, and Andrew Putnam out in the desert four-shot win for Scotty Schaeffler. I, like I threw this out there and I'm ready to back this up. This is one of the most impressive wins of Scottie's career. Like to do this on, in a full field event,

on a series of golf courses that it's some of the most inconsequential golf shot. you'll ever see on the PGA tour of just like hit in the rough no big deal mr green no big deal like it is not a good test of talent yet scotty went out and lifted and separated from the entire field and ran away with this thing and made it like always this tournament is interesting at the end and he made it uninteresting through just unbelievable golf and like you can't set up a tournament harder for scotty to win other than like having more stars in it you can't set it up harder for a guy like him to win and he just made it look easy it's just absurd man Holly, I'll poke a hole in it.

He made 32 birdies this week, including nine today. And he didn't make more than three in a row at any point. He made nine birdies today and he only made two in a row. That was his max today. So, Scotty, I want to see you making five, five birdies in a row more. Hell yeah. Got a lot to go off of there. Solly, first off, I love you getting out in front of T.C.'s anti-blades.

That's good stuff. Setting that narrative early. I'm not anti-blades. I just thought the glazing. I know you're not, but I think it's sweet. The whole thing just like, like I'm not ready to anoint this kid after, after seeing him play dome golf for two or three days, right? Uh, of course. Of course.

Well, yeah, people are, they're getting hot and bothered and it might be, uh, front running it. But really good week for him. Let's, let's stay on Scotty for a second. Sali is this is his first, uh, Amex appearance. Is that right? Uh, it is not. I don't believe he's played it. I think he, uh, the, uh, the, uh,

Brian Kirsner had a stat here that I'll read. He, uh, there, there was, there were six events that Scotty has played three or more times since 2002 that he hadn't won. Uh, the MX was one of them. Uh, but he's, of course, now won that one. The other five are Houston, Charles Schwab, U.S. Open, the Scottish and the St. Jude. The worst, his finishes in those five events, like his best finish in each of them, T2, second, T2, T3, T3. The only five events he has at one is worst finish his third place. I was going to say, yeah.

Yeah, he's going to nail Schwab here pretty soon. I feel like he's been T2 there. Then he said FedEx. I'm like, ah, he's going to knock that one out. I think, though, you nailed it as far as impressive. He won the piece of shit putting contest, right? It's like another category of PGA tour win for his resume. And they said towards the end of the broadcast, they said that at Shinnock, Sunday at Shinnock, the U.S. open this year.

It will be Father's Day, his birthday. and the career grand slam. And I feel like that's the only hole right now in the resume is like the hardest turn. Like can he win on a new course when it's set up super duper hard? That feels like about the only thing we're missing right now. But I agree with you that this was impressive for him for a course set up for it to just be kind of random. He just made it really boring. That was well said.

And oh, by the way, it's a Chinatcock, which favors like the best iron players in the world and the best chippers of the golf. the world, which he's both. And I don't know, I don't know, I don't make excuses for him for having not won the last couple of U.S. opens, but it just, Ockmont was weird and he just didn't get off on the right. Pioneers was definitely weird. He was bitchy, like he was kind of old Scotty that we didn't like to see. Oakmont just, just didn't feel like his week, didn't, you know, the ball did not bounce his way. He was still closer than I, you know, that I thought he deserved to be. And it's just like one of these years he's going to play great at the U.S. Open.

and I just have no reason to pick against that guy ever. I mean, he's getting better. I got a bunch of stats if you guys want to do some because it. Well, before you go there, can I just say, like, I could hear on the broadcast today, too, like we're getting into, Wiley was talking about all the crowds. He's starting to pick up crowds. The tiger chatter starting to pick up the, you know, second fastest guy to 20 wins, you know, before he's 30.

I think 151 starts, 20 wins. The narrative's picking up now that it's that we are chasing career greatness. And I think that's, that's awesome. I think that's awesome for golf. I think it's awesome for Scotty. But it's still very like today was very boring down the stretch. I turned it on. Picked him up on the eighth hole today when he made birdie.

And Carson's like he's 20, well, I think he's like 25, 2600. She's like, what is this? Like, it was a good line. She goes, what is this a center for ants? Like as far as like, you know, from Zoolander. She caught me off guard with that one. She's like, 2800 gross,

like get out of here. Like, I don't want to watch this. Turn the football back on. And I was like, it's kind of a good take. Pars is the number. All right.

You know, I was like, yeah, I know, but I'm on the pod tonight. We got to, we got to fire it up. And,

you know, once you start seeing the back nine, it's, it is boring because no one's pushing him, but he's just, God, he's hitting this cut driver off of 15. It's just easy.

And then all of a sudden, he just like sneezes on 17 and hits it in the water, which like was that for fun i don't i don't know what we were doing there but otherwise it was it was unbelievable he should a 10 cup that he went to the drop zone like you got to stay on that tea if you got a six shot lead at the amex and you hit the water you got to stay there till you hit it on there man i need you when you get when else you're going to get a chance of 10 cup one i needed you i needed you reaching for another thing exactly it's a joke so so scotty

spotted everybody 70 starts he did not win in his first 70 starts on the PJ tour. And his 71st, he won his first event. So he's had 80 starts then, since then, or maybe 81. I always struggle when, you know, counting that one start. He's won 20 of those. So essentially 25% of starts since then, which is greater than Tiger's career win percentage. This stretch that he's on is greater than Tiger's career win percentage, which is around

22, 23%. And I should say, that was Tiger's win percentage when he won 82. So not counting anything post-82, any of the, you know, kind of rough starts he's had since then, since the accident, all that. Not counting any of that. But the representative, Tiger, Sam. Correct. And, but Tiger went, he also had a stretch that from start 71 to 151, the same exact stretch of starts since Scotty. Again, that Scotty's 120.

And we're all amazed. Tiger won 30 times in that stretch. So even in this one word, Scotty's been out of this world. And so, but this is Scotty's 16th win in 38 starts since he switched to the mallet. That's a 42% win percentage. Like that is the rate that Steph Curry makes three-pointers, like the greatest three-point shooter maybe ever. I get it. He's putting up a lot in bulk.

But like that's the rate that Scotty has won at since switching to the mallet. Yeah. What else would you attribute the slow start to? He was a bad putter. He was a very bad putter. You guys didn't believe in him. He invented him. D.C.

wasn't fully committed yet. I mean, he was just, he's gotten a little bit better in every category every year. Like he's just been, he was already really good and he just keeps improving. I mean, if you look at like J.T, look at Speed, look at Jason Day, look at anyone in like the late 2010s that had really good runs. They were up and then down a year. Up and, you know, down. didn't really maintain like a level of consistency like he just became like world number one and has been getting better every he's better in strokes game every single year he's probably

going to have his best year ever this year i would think like he had his best year in strokes game the last year after the ravioli incident after he got hurt and it didn't win for several months the ravioli keep forgetting about the ravioli incident didn't even play in january and it looked like merrit is pregnant again based on what i wouldn't dare report that or or or or assume that as well, TC, but, um, watch yourself, T.C. That would watch it. It would appear so, very much so, um, uh, as well. So again, could that be the only thing that holds him back?

He's been even better since he became a dad. So me, I can't imagine that having two kids is going to make him a better golfer, but it might. He also just cleared a hundred million in career earnings before turning. I had that stat written down. That one stuck out to me from the broadcast, a hundred million dollars on course. That's wild. He's seven million behind Rory and only 20 million behind Tiger.

Like he could be the highest earner in golf history by the end of this year. That's not unrealistic at all. Especially now because FedEx, the Torch championship money counts towards official money now. It's not even bonus money. So, youngest 20 wins. The more I think about it, though, I'm just so impressed by that ability to continuously improve. Especially after he didn't have immediate success.

So to just the self-belief, I don't know what did I, I kind of want to, I don't know, I want to like reflect on this more. That that's such an interesting thing of like he might be historically great and just got off to such a slow start. And you just don't see that a lot with historically great athletes in other in most sports. I mean, I'd have to, again, I'd have to reflect on some other examples of this, but it's, it's really something. I wish he had like a carrot to chase. Like you can't catch tiger. like I look this up today too. Tiger went from eight wins to 71 wins in 178 starts. 63 wins and like he for the like the 2000s.

He won 35% of the time for the entire decade essentially. Like we're not getting there. I'm sorry we're not. Like he's still getting incrementally closer to that. He's still not going to get there. But there's he's also blowing anybody else out of the water. Like Phil's not a good comp for him anymore. I mean, he's still got to clear him on total majors.

but like he is completely outpacing Phil's career to this point. Like there is no comparison. He's one like almost 13% of his starts at this point. Even with that over 70 start, like there's no one, no one that holds, you know, anywhere close to that. Yeah. He had some injury stuff, you know, come out of like during school and all that too. But like I, I know he kind of got off to quote unquote a slow start in his PGA tour career,

but he also like his rookie year on tour, it's seven top top. 10s, 13 top 25s and 23 starts. This next year, even though he didn't win, he had eight top tens, 16 top 25s and 29 starts. So it's like, like he didn't struggle. He just, he didn't struggle. You're right. But it was it when you compare it to, I guess this week, like what everybody wants to do with Blades Brown, right?

Like he wasn't anointed as a college golfer or as a junior golfer. He was not like the kid. He wasn't the chosen one. And then when he got out, he was very good. Yes, he was very good. But he wasn't, I don't know, to be historically great, a lot of times they get identified almost before they go pro or that rookie season. They make a big splash when they come in.

And I guess what I'm getting at is I almost appreciate. I just really like it. It's like, it's very unique to me in the way that he's going about it. It's like, no, he kind of just got off to a really normal start and like above average start. But nothing, nothing flashy. It was like if you had to be TC, you had to be watching and be like, look at smoking Scotty. Look at smoke and Scotty. Look at this guy.

You know, for two years, TZ, you were calling it out. And he didn't. He was really good on corn fairy tour. But he wasn't like, he wasn't outrageous on corn fairy tour. He had two wins, six top fives in 24 starts. But isn't that the point we're talking about him on the corn fairy tour? Like a lot of times it's like the, the greats just skipped that shit. Right.

Right. They go right into the, into the fire. And like, you know, they find a way to fast track it. And he just didn't do. that that's the piece that i'm i'm almost like in the moment right now thinking about is is unique about scottie uh which i like i i'm not trying to criticize him for it it's just it's it's interesting yeah tc explain your br your blades brown your current stance on this why do you hate him tc what this is outrageous he seems like a nice kid i got nothing against blades brown i just

i just think we need to tamp down there's a lot of really good young players out there i know he shot 60 this week. It was a bad 60. It should have been lower. D.C. City had no gumption. He couldn't shoot in the 50s. That was a tongue-in-cheek. But, no, I don't know.

I just think it's like, you know, it kind of broke contain in golf and people outside of golf are like, who's this Blades Brown kid? I'm like, there's other guys that you need to be more familiar with before you get to Blades Brown. I think that's totally fair. 18-year-old.

playing in the final group with Scotty Sheffler, like to have genuine excitement. Like my neighbor asked me about it today. Like, well, it's up with this 18 year old. Like that's, no,

that's great for golf. This was all, like, I get that he doesn't have the, the greatest pedigree of any amateur golfers. But like, he's taking a really unique route. He's relying on,

he's got a lot to prove at a lot of different levels. And I'm 100% with you. The Amex is maybe the least projectable tournament out there. Like it almost, Dunlap might be a strange case for this one, well of like scoring record. Win it as an amateur. Yeah, winning it as an amateur, you know, is not necessarily predictive of you being

able to be a competitive player out on the PJ tour where there is going to be consequences to misses that do not exist in this tournament, which is a major flaw. I get all that still pretty freaking cool. Like he played the corn fairy event earlier this week, took a flight, played eight straight days in a row, was obviously tired today. Like, I don't know. I'm definitely rooting for the kid and just 18-year-olds are not in the final group of PGA tour events very often at all.

This was, this was exciting. And I don't think anyone was anointing in the next tiger. That was, you know, I don't think, I don't think people are getting too carried away about him. There were some people that got out over their skis. So, listen, I'll say that. And like, like, you know, you got, yeah, I don't know. I mean, Scotty made the cut as a 17 year old at the Byron Nelson. Yeah, it's not the first person to make it cut.

I know, he was in the final round. He's in the final group. Fine. I'm just, you know, he finished, what, T-18, like, or T-13 doesn't get into, doesn't earn his way into, you know, the following week and all that. So, yeah, he kind of lit his momentum on fire today, specifically today. But good week. I mean, they were talking about on the broadcast, too. He's flying from the Bahamas to here, like, didn't take a practice round, like, impressive week for a young, a young kid, 18 years old, like, yeah, let's see more of it. You guys just turn this in to me jumping on, plate. We're just messing with you. We need to see more. T. T.C., I think you're right. We need to see.

see more. I'll back you on that one. T.C. He was born after you and I went to the memorial together for the first time. Like he is born in 2007. That was a tough one to look up today. I was like, wait, what? I'm trying to the math on that. No, don't tell me it was after I graduated college. It wasn't, thankfully. But yeah, I'm, he had a great interview afterwards too. He said he could have written a book about all the things he learned this week and how cool it was to be playing with Scottie. And like, that's just, yeah, that's got to be a, uh, just a, a, just a, remarkable experience to be playing with this like dude heading for literal greatness as an 18 year old in the final group could have been a movie i had no doubt that scotty was gonna blow his doors off today though but yeah he and he did unlock the uh the fire emoji for a while in the app although i would think so he was seven under through he was like seven under through nine or ten and he lost the fire emoji to somebody else though he was not the hottest player on the golf course can only one person have the fire emoji? I think yeah. I think it's like hottest guy on the course.

I don't think it. I don't think I thought I think you could open it and see multiple people have it. But his round, if you missed it on Friday, he went birdie, birdie, birdie, birdie, birdie, birdie, birdie, birdie start pared the last two holes on the back night of the Nicholas tournament course to shoot 28, eight under 28 with a two pars on the final two holes. Birdie two, four, five, and six. Uh, had a par five, All you need to do is get one birdie to shoot 59 and could not birdie the par 5 seventh and then part eight and nine as well. Had a short put to break 60 as well. That very legitimately could have been a 58. But on what?

What was the par center for ants? Is it a par 72? Par 72. It would have been the first 14 under par round in PGA tour history. For as many rounds as we've seen in the 50s, it would have been, you know, the first 14 under round. Uh, also can we just, it just blows me away ever since they've gone back to the, the, you know, PGA West, the stadium course, PGA West that the, the players for like two decades just didn't want to go play here. Like they didn't let them go play here because it was too hard. Yeah.

Like, like if that's not kind of a, you know, massive alarm bell going off in the game of like, all right, maybe we've deskilled this thing a little bit, you know. Yeah, I don't know how perhaps. Yeah, do we do we think the Amex has a future on the PJ tour like this style of event? It's a pro-am. It's spread out across three courses. The golf courses are, you know, it, I'm struggling to, you know, there's some tournaments I'll fight for that probably won't fit in like the signature event thing and that I have a special place in my heart. This one is not one of them. It's just not.

I watched a lot of this golf tournament this week. And it is so hard to watch golf. the shots to you green do not have consequence it just really is like scotty scotty had several shots this week that were like off and bad and like should have been punished and he's like just green side with a very straightforward chip right at the hole and that that style of golf i think is just not uh it's not what we're about tc and it's the same thing every year but i don't know why it felt worse this year than it has in the past it's always such a random pro am too you got uh our guy noto the double double ACL

for sure he win no he finished second I think as he was T1 going in the weekend I think yeah let me go to let me go to the so the pro so like the pro M like it's a full pro M but they don't cover that at all yeah he lost by three this guy Jim Lee Danny Ane he tied for second with Danny Aange

John Zito your boy Neil from Apollo sure global management he was T4 Ed Bastian you know, proud AMX partner Delta, T-51. Maybe not. Mike won, T-1-11, WMBA, A-Kamish, Kathy Engelbert was in the field, Coltricks, Ryan, Eddie Q, Grant Horvatt, kind of confused some people when he said, he was going on a PGA tour.

He was playing as a pro. Oh, yeah. Confused me. I thought he was in the event. Yeah. One guy who was notably absent was that Japto Lord Lord. Yeah, the genocidal

guy from Indonesia who's like the warlord. He did not get the invite this year. I don't think he's been for a couple of years. To your question, where does this fit? I would say, not that there's like a ton more consequence at Coppilua, but I would ride for Coppilua a lot harder than this one if we're got to pick one. It's just as far as I think Cabalua has such a distinct

look and feel and kick off to the season that I would say like I'd love to see them go to do two tournaments in Hawaii and then get a week off if we're talking about the future of the PGA tour. I think that fits a lot better than the Amex does. You know, and I know there's a lot of nostalgia with Bob Hope and no, this was kind of similar to the clam bake at Pebble. This is this is the roots of the tour here and there's a lot of truth to that but I'm with you it's like man this is this time of year you got a FC NFC championship game on this weekend it's it's kind of a tough sell you know for for the course just doesn't really hold up doesn't hold my attention and I think coppaulu just comes down to this is like shots without consequence and uninteresting golf yeah I think

coppaulu is still interesting golf even if the scores are low and the margin for error is big like you can you know miss pretty shot to make the birdie of capital yeah and you if you're If you miss, you probably can still make par quite easy, but it just feels like you've got to do something interesting most of the time to get. It's kind of a unique type of golf. It's like one of the few looks at mountain golf that we get. And I, you know, like, I'm like, yeah, I remember talking to speed about it. He's like, it's here in Augusta are basically the only places we get uneven lies.

Right. You know, like ball above my feet, ball below my feet, which I, that's stuck with me for, you know, three or four years now. But yeah, I'd like to see if we're going to go, if we're picking, between like the first three weeks of the year. I'm like, man, give me, yeah, just give me the Hawaii stuff. And then let's take a break, right? And then let's start the West Coast, you know, in California.

You know it's bad when Sally's jonesing for Tori. Literally by the end of this, I was like, I'm kind of ready for when you misogreeing that, you know, there to be some consequence. It's just, you know, in a vacuum, birdie fest can be fun, but like, I watched a fair amount of golf this week. I'm just like, man, I don't really know why.

because it really is just going to come down to the putting at the end. I mean, yeah, if you really wanted to pump your own data, pump your stats to start the year, like this would be a great place to do it. And if you're looking to track that, I would suggest our friends at Arcos. We've been using the new Link Pro a ton, especially on our trip to Casa de Campo.

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I still stand on T's, like thinking I'm not a very good driver of the ball, but the stats would say it's been the strongest part of my game since the beginning of December. I'm not chipping it nearly as well as I'd like to think I am. So I might need to put a little more time around there. Or look at, hey, I'm having some big misses around the greens that are costing me a lot.

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It makes me want to play more golf. It makes me want to make better decisions. Arcosgolf.com. That's A R-C-C-O-S-Golf.com and use code NLU-15 for 15% off. Again, Arcosgolf.com code NLU-15 for 15% off. Question for you guys. How many wins for Scotty in 2026? Let's get it on the record.

Six. How many of last year? Six. I'll say six. I'll say seven. I think it's going to be a better year. Yeah. I'd say seven because then you start to think like if I say eight or nine,

it's like, oh, we talk about the historic VJ year. That was eight. It's like, damn. Now I'm into my, you know, 11, Nelly 11 majors territory. I'm going to say seven. I'm going to go eight. I'm buying. whatever he's selling.

I mean, and VJ had nine that year in 2004. They were talking about Neil. So now, excuse me. Scotty had nine in 2024, six last year. I think he's going to be closer to,

to 2024. We have no ravioli period this year. No ravioli. He stole and went to the Amex. Like this one just feels, feels like a freebie, a free space on the bingo card. I mean,

you know, you got, I would say this, maybe the hottest player in the world right now, Ryan Gerard, spotted him, few strokes. First round, he shot 70.

He came roaring back, finished, finished T2. This third, second place finish in a row. So you had a Mauritius. Before we go down the leaderboard, you had a few stats in here. He's been number one in the world now for half as long as Tiger. He's 140 weeks in a row at number one. That's halfway to Tiger's record of 281.

I'd say a lot of Tiger's numbers are completely untouchable. can he break this one? This is a little less than three years. So I, then I, that may be go look up official world golf ranking. So he's, I don't know how to read this stuff. So he's at 640.746 points. Rory's number two in the world at 417.762. And then Tommy Fleetwood's number three at 270.76.

So I'm trying to understand like his gap. Do you know what I mean? Like like, like, so it goes off average though. that column of average points. He's 16.95. He's double. 17 and Rory's at 8.5. I think he cake walks to this,

barring a serious injury, which is not nothing. Like it, you know, guys get injured all the time. Like, truly all the time. He got injured last year. Like, that very well could happen. And that's a cop-out answer.

But I think if it's like just left up to him to play golf, I think there's, I don't, no one's going to come close to what he's doing. And I don't see him. coming that far back. I mean, so right now we've got Scotty at 16, Rory at 8.8,

we'll say 9, Tommy Fleetwood at 5.4, Zander Schauffley at 4.7, Russell Henley at 4.7. Their neck and neck in the 4 and 5 spot. So he's double, I mean, God, he's way out in front of everybody. He's double Rory and he's, you know, almost four times as high as Tommy as far as

average points goes. So that, that helps. Thank you for clarifying that for me. That's going to be, it's been hard to track down is what you're saying. if he just doesn't take a ton of time off. Yeah, so he, for winning the AMX, he won 65 points. And that's where he has like 284 more points than Rory already.

So like Rory would have to win, you know, however many events in a row, just to just to tie Scotty eventually. And that would be Scotty not getting any more points to boost that average. It's just, it's unlikely. It really is. anything else from the from the notebook from from from mx tc you got anything else you want to get out

good finish for jason day second year in a row he's played played well there sound a 60 second in the world he kind of needs to get on his horse here uh the aforementioned ryan gerard of course uh i'd like to give the pjator app developers that they have the the flame right if you're hot i think they need like a fedora for the hottest player in the world like the TC fedora uh give it to gerard you know whoever like week to week you know like you were saying that the the flame emoji is only we need only one guy can have it a cold emoji too would you say that ryan gerard gets the fedora emoji right now hottest player in the world i think hottest player in the world not named scotty yeah okay i like it um it's worth noting

uh jason day's up to the world rankings have already been up to he's up to 33 with this second place finish so he he he's up to 30 third with this second place finish so he he made a massive leap. Matt McCarty, T2. Andrew Putnam had a second round 60. He went 7, 260, the first two rounds. So he's T2. McCarty and Putnam are both in Neal's Aon swing five at the moment.

Sam Stevens, I know nothing about Sam Stevens, other than he's like he's from Wichita. That's it. I think I need to learn more about Sam Stevens, based on a really good year last year. And he seems to be off to the races again this year. He has some sick chipping videos with Joe Mayo. That's what I know about him.

And he, well, I'll fast forward to this. He's my pick to win a Tori this week. He had a great finish at Tori two years ago. I think it was. And I'm picking him to win a Tori this week. Okay. Russ Henley, T8. I was going to call it Russ.

Just doing professional stuff. Just like owning their space in the. midfield. T8 in a in a in a pack on a pack track tc he he he and uh hoge coin at t8 and saw if he's nervous i wouldn't i wouldn't consider saw hith in the henley hoge like true pros pro category but those guys just getting it done in a in a packed field doesn't matter top tens for for two just you know veteran ball strikers i love it and uh david for he's your pGA you he finished t t 13 our guy bridgman sally t13 as well and then uh the blow pig kind of kind of leaked oil a little bit today uh final around 72 otherwise he was kind of up there in the

mix piercing cootty played well will's al torus back bouncing around uh blocky missed the cut he did seeing that um but yeah that's i don't know that's kind of kind of it i didn't watch top 27 or t 20s 27. 27. Come on. Also top 27. I probably watched more of Dubai this week.

But I did see, I just, I hate seeing Nick Dunlap, like continue to struggle like he is with the driver. If you're watching on YouTube, he was off the planet. Oof. I'm putting a couple up here from his, his only round that was measured on the, on the stadium course on Shotlink. Like, I mean, just hitting it into the shaded area on Shotlink, like, that is not considered part of the whole. One of these was on the right side of the, there's a fairway, then there's a bunker, then there's water. And he went right of all of those on the ninth hole. That's sick.

But he made par there. He did. It's always right. Yeah. It's not good. It's really, really, really not good. Something to continue to monitor and keep an eye on. Some PG-Tor news and notes.

This is a big one down in Pontiv, Ludacris, will be the military. tribute concert here at the players championship in potavidja first non-country act this is a big this is big for us down here in these parts uh my wife's already saying all right we're going this year we're finding this sitter i lud is doing software commercials now he's playing the pga tors it stinks the olds are going to be so mad sallie of course they're going to be mad that's what makes it fun what was uh didn't you didn't you park his car once when you were valley parking yeah yeah i did uh yeah he would come in all actually all the time uh to one of the places luda and then big boys girl we can take that offline big boy's girlfriend lived in the condos right above one of the restaurants

yeah i'm i'm i could not be more out on luda that's going to be so awkward that's what's going to make it fun so this is the first non-country act since the chain smokers that's a good point yeah i just somebody said it was first non-country but i forgot about the chance how could you forget how good that that is on All I was on TikTok. Thank you for the correction. What's in your notebook here? Yeah, I had a little old corner here that, you know, just kind of a great, great lead in there.

Neil, I sent this over John Brody. T.C. I love this. Not familiar with John Brody's game. And I was not either. Rest in peace. But I'll take it away, please. Yeah, John Brody.

This is a courtesy of BGATor.com, the PGA Tour Champions site. This was written by Chris Cox on there. Just going into this guy, John Brody, I was, you know, I was not familiar with his game either. PGA Tour Champions winner, former NFL MVP, passed away this week. Yeah, quarterback for your nine years old. Yeah. You know, first round draft pick out of Stanford. Led the league in passing three years.

Early 70s, guy was just tore it up in the NFL. And then he just had a complete second act. And he just was, he played golf at Stanford as well. there's a line in that obituary where the football coach Chuck Taylor couldn't find him. He was trying out for the golf team. Ended up having a being a dual sport athlete at Stanford. And then after his football career, he just became a champion's tour golfer just balled out. And yeah, 230 career starts between 85 and 98.

I kind of had some legendary quotes just about golf in general about like how hard it was. He's thinking it hard a sport by far, you know, to play. and I just loved it, man. I love the idea of second acts and, you know, just somebody being successful, like high level success in two really, really hard fields, especially athletically. Shout out to John Brody. I'm pissed at myself that I didn't know about him, T.C.

So thank you for sending this through. You're welcome. You're welcome. Guys, the old were in Hawaii this week at the Mitsubishi Electric. I think there's like three Mitsubishi Electric tournaments on the schedule, but they were at the one at Huala Lai. The big island, Stu Sink one picked up right where he left off.

He won the Schwab Cove last year. Someone said he does not have unfinished biz. Yeah. It's over. El Pato had a bogey-free 62. He continues to be a, you know, a force to be reckoned without their.

VJ finished T-12, and he's not playing next week at Tori. He's, he's resting. We're going to track the hell out of VJ. We're talking, all of VJ. these moves this year. Yeah. I watched a little bit of this, this, you know, earlier, you know,

kind of mid-afternoon. God, it looked good out there, man. That course looked awesome. Fun viewing. And, Sally, got to watch out, Mitsubishi might be the modern champions tour version of Buick from our soon-to-come 94 BGA tour episode. We do have a fun deep dive coming, probably in two weeks from now that we we dove a little bit into how much how hard buick used to stunt on the pGA tour they have five tournaments four they had four tournaments i mean unreal it's the cat i mean the cat was contractually obligated to show you're invitational the classic that uh it's could be be a tough is unbelievable challenge down at calaway gardens the open you see we got deep into that got rained out 94 what brian roll up would think of like wait we have a tournament in cal

Outside of Columbus, Georgia at Callaway Gardens. You see, that's not, I thought outside of Columbus, too. It's not. It's on the border with Alabama. It's in the middle of nowhere. That turn it was in the middle of nowhere. Columbus is on the border with Alabama. No, but it's like farther west than I looked on the map.

It's not, it's not really that close to Columbus. Take that offline. Quickly wrap it up the, you know, this side of the ocean. Friend of the program, Chad Coleman, named the LPGA tour, uh, CMO. This is an excellent development. for anyone that knows Chad. He's been with Dude Perfect the last six or seven years. I think he was maybe not quite that long.

It was with Callaway when we worked with Callaway as well. Hashtag Chad was one of the innovators in the golf media slash influencer workspace way ahead of his time on a lot of this stuff. And it's coming back to the golf world. And I think it's going to be empowered to do some really cool stuff there. So we're really, really stoked for him. Congrats to him. And congrats the LPGA tour.

You got a great one there. So yeah. Stoke for the LPGA. Generally, it's a good, like, you know, I think Kessler keeps, keeps signaling that he's, he's willing to think outside the box here. Yeah. So good stuff there. TGL this week, don't have a lot other than Tiger's interview. It just opened up the show was, was really tough and awkward.

And he just struggled to talk. And he was like he never talked in public before. Like he was nervous and talking super, super, super, super fast. And I just, I hope he's all right, man. And it was just... Especially with SVP handle and the interview. It's like,

God, that should have been like a... Yeah. A layup. It's worrying. Troubling. I think. Team Rose, of course, had an albatross.

DJ's not here to celebrate that as well as Juplink's got embarrassed yet again. But... Yeah, Kisner at, what, 154 ball speed? Yeah, I'm not... It's not positive the franchise is on the best path to success. But maybe we can dive into that in a future episode. In Dubai.

at the hero. Kind of the news of the week. We should have led with this, man. This is good stuff. It was good. It was good viewing too. Like it was not dome golf. It was kind of windy and wet there this morning.

Patrick Reed took a four shot lead in the final round and played it steady, even par round four to win by the same four shot in margin. Just two birdies, two bogies. No one ever really got that close. David Pooge, I think had it to two shots at one point on the back nine, but made three bogeys coming.

and actually, he actually ended up. I don't know if you saw this. He got, he got penalized for grounding his club in the bunker on 18 and fell from T3 to T7. That cost him $276,300 in the aftermath. But the headline here, P, back in the winter circle, has some quotes and some stories and stuff going on there as well. But Patrick Reed, getting the dub.

T.C., I know you're absolutely tickled by this. Listen, I was. I just is he was really feeling himself doing all the media and all that. I miss P, man. He's he plays a lot worldwide. He's playing on, you know, Asian tour. He's playing on Liv. He's playing on DP World Tour.

He's playing in Bahrain this coming week. When he said that, I was like, one, I didn't know DP World Tour is going to Bahrain and two, P is going. He's going to play Bahrain. Yeah. So I think we need, we need to import some villains. We need to get some villains back in the mix. We do, TC. I think I'm rooting for P to win the Masters or win a major this year, so they can't keep him out.

The best part about P is he doesn't go looking for a mic like some guys do. But when one finds him, he has some good, like some outrageous things to say where it's like, yeah, I mean, I haven't signed my live contract. You know, I'm, I'd love to come back. You know, it's like nobody, nobody's asked me in a while. And he just pops up and I miss him. Straight up. I miss him. You know, that grease ball.

I'd love to have that grease ball back. Just best hand. Best hand in golf. And Lady J. Yeah, yeah. Somebody said, gosh,

there was a Sky Sports interview this week that they compared P in the moment and told him that he's the modern day Sevy. The great man, Sevy, which I thought was great. But yeah, probably the best wedge player in the world, this side of Blandi.

I asked you guys, I was like, should we do like a little mini, you know, dive into P. Reed tonight for the pod? I don't think you can do a mini dive on, on Patrick Reed. I accumulated way too many notes for anything to squeeze into this. And it's just a, I think I have 17 noteworthy things from at use golf facts. Just in, I don't even think I made it through two years of the tweets. It is an historical artifact. It is just absolutely.

I miss all of this. It is like out of sight, out of mind with Reed. Like, I honestly don't think about him anymore. But you just forget how on a weekly basis, she would just give T.C. All that he needed for every Sunday night pod that we would ever do. I mean, you guys had such a symbiotic relationship, T.C. I know.

I miss her. I know. That was, that was just good for just. And then she out of content for everybody. Well, when when P says like, hey, like, I don't negotiate during, during tournament weeks or when I'm playing golf, my team is handling all of that. Who's like, who is his team?

Is that just his mother-in-law and lady J? Sitting at home like, you know, talking to the ACEs GM, trying to drive a hard bargain? I'm just going to give you a snapshot of things she was upset about. And this is not meant to be all-encompassing because honestly, I could not, could not get through it all.

August 2020, mad about everyone in the top 10 being in a feature group or a notable pairing, except for Patrick Reed at the PJ Championship. November 2020, not a fan of DJ getting a green jacket because there weren't fans there. Just said it basically just threw a big asterisk on that one. Honestly, I'd like to invite her on the pot to talk about that one.

January 2021 agrees with Atron Carter NLU that the app is really slow to update, but only for certain players, implying that Patrick Reed's updates are... They're throttling them. They're throttling his updates. The fact that that account is still... It's still live.

It's just, just hasn't posted in how long. Allegedly hasn't posted in two years since 2023. I think it was the last tweet that I saw. I think the alleged is important. Of course, all of this is alleged. Yeah. Mr. Clayman Esquire is listening. I thought, I think he got disbarred.

Yeah, he got disbarred. I don't think that's going to stop him, though. It just doesn't seem like. Obviously had the, the, uh, the, the tweet disaster at farmers when, when Reed had a, a tough rules. incident where she also accidentally tweeted it from the official Patrick Reed account. July 2021. That was when she outed herself. Correct.

I remember like there's like four moments of my life where I remember exactly where I was. Like the, you know, the palace. Please tell me where you were. You see when my wife called me and told me that he was pregnant first time. And when lady jay, I was sitting at Cotillo's Italian restaurant. And, and like kind of had. shoty cell reception and that came across the wire that she she posted in the wrong place allegedly and it was that was that was one of the greatest moments in nLU history as far as I'm concerned

ladies and gentlemen we got her of course mad about too many late early tea times in majors only can't lay among the top players the world was getting more of those October 22 21 almost two years after the hero incident still tweeting about altered footage in that one um mad about show incident that Shotlink. That's great. If you just parachuted in this pod, just the hero incident. No other context needed. Dr. Wunschall incident. Matt at Shotling for manipulating Reed's driving distance. Honestly, I think I missed that one. She was saying that the shotling was understating his driving distance. And then it got less fun when she was mad about ODBGR points because you just sound like

everyone else, all the other bots on there. But it's incredible stuff. It really is. So, other finishes there hovlin t 14 lowry t 26 rory and hatton t 33 Tommy t 41 what what if what if p just balls out on the euro tour top 10 gets him back on the pga tour right but he's technically so he would have to be he would have to still get a waiver or like some some he wouldn't play this so he'd have to play this year out on the dp world tour and then would be technically had spent the year but so that's That's like the, it's not like been promised by the tour that, hey, it's a year from your last event. Like it basically says once you have hit a, you know, violated this rule, you are suspended at least a year.

There's no, it's not been clarified as far as I know, like if you play 50 events, I mean, they could say it's 50 years because you played 50. You know what I mean? It's not like that's the set punishment if you've played on live. So just to be clear, though, if he top tens on the Euro tour, but he. coming up in a couple weeks he plays live this season but he top tens on the Euro Tour he'd still be suspended. Correct. Yes.

So you're saying that if he decided not to play live because he's saying in his press conference hey I haven't signed my contract yet he's almost teasing like maybe I won't re-sign with Live this year and then if he does and he just plays Euro Tour, God he could play him. Yeah so then he could play his way back on and maybe

and that's where that's where there's a lot of flexibility on like where do you say that ended god that's sick i love top 10 not otherwise exempt all he would need is like two or three more good finishes out there and he i i think he would probably have it have it locked up i just love him using the existing pathways you know what i'm going to play my way back out there that's what i'm saying about he like he doesn't he doesn't complain like publicly he just he just like he just goes about the work no lady jay complains But he hasn't complained in a while.

He hasn't a question in a while. Guess my name's got to be Jordan Speed to get this drop, guys. Wow, that's fair. Okay, never mind. But lately he hasn't complained. You're right. That's a recency bias. But I feel like he does, he does just fly around and play fucking golf, man.

Yeah. The guy's everywhere. Like, he's just, he's just, like, he just wants, he's, he's addicted to it. I find it. I miss him. I miss P. Period. He's way better.

Again, this is why just the golf world. should be together. Like, there's no reason he should be off playing irrelevant golf on the live tour. Like this is, I'm not calling the hero irrelevant golf, but the rest is, I don't think about it. I have no idea how he's been playing on Liv. God, I think that would be even like tougher for Livet,

if a guy like Reed who's supposed to just ride off into the sunset decides to say like, no, I'm not going to sign this contract. I'm just going to grind my nuts off on the Euro tour. You know, I'm just going to go, like you said, TC, I'm going to go about the pathway. I'm going to take the road less. traveled here. And I'm going to find my way. But the prodigal P returns. God, that's good stuff. The problem he's got working against him is it is a roll app going to the players like,

hey, what do you guys think about this one? What should we do here? What should we do? Kepka's like, wave him on through. Uh, read might get a little different reaction from the players. He, it is maybe even, uh, uh, even Lynch had a column that posted and I was like, yeah, like everybody likes Brooks. like imagine what it's going to be like when on roll-ups like hey we've got to carve out a little bit more space here in player dining for for p and lady jay see how that goes over he was not one of the players in the lawsuit i just looked that up i i would have thought he would have been but maybe i don't know if claimant had exclusive rights to all his lawsuits or whatever that was but um he did sue golf channel for the 750 month yes i again i put two pages of notes together and i did not even get to the $750 million lawsuit.

Like I've forgotten about that. Dude is just a content machine character. Yes. I mean, I understand listeners maybe pounding their steering wheel. Like, this is the definition of distance makes the heart grow fonder. Yes. For me. You know what I mean?

Like, I, yeah, I've just blocked all this stuff out. I'm just like, but I was at last year at Augusta, I followed Reed for nine holes. And I was like, man, I missed this. this is he's he really the way he throws his hands like it's fun to watch him play golf so it is a yeah like you said salli he shouldn't be playing meaningless golf in bah rain no offense not i don't mean dp world tours are meaningless but i mean sally he's he's he's he's the modern sevi in more ways than one right what's just being shunned by the pGA tour no or just maybe a little cavalier sure allegedly allegedly it's got a lot of few

I think that that definitely plays. All right. I will say I was disappointed in Hovland, Havent shot 76 today. Yeah, I don't know what happened there. And then I was disappointed in Pooge too. I think Pooge is like really good. I think he's like he won the BMW Australian PGA on there.

And then he finished T3 at the doctor at the Dubai invitational. And then he finished T7. week in the Dubai Desert Classic, but I think I was expecting him to challenge Pete today for for it. And I think he's, you know, like he is a, a viable Ryder Cup candidate for Europe. I just say, can you help me define really good? Because we have to fight like, the live boys are obviously going to, you know, claim to this guy's Ludwig. And that's obviously not the case. But like, we have to do, it's, it can be hard to equate these things when guys are playing separate golf and not going through the PGA tour

cauldron so like what is really good like what do you where would you put him like what's a good comp for him for you know on the PGA tour side you think in terms of talent level or where you think he's going I'm putting on the spot with this one I mean he doesn't have like a you know a great record

in the majors he's only got five major starts but you know like last year he played like when he teased it up on the DP World Tour he tends to play well like he he finished top 10 at the Spanish Open last year K4 in Bahrain last year

third at the Ross Alkamai like T4 at the Dunhill in 24 T3 at the Spanish Open like he plays well when he shows up so at week field events those are weak field events yeah I think yeah but yeah but like this week's not not a week field event and I think this is

the Dubai Desert Classic I think will be like that will take the place of the Amex or the Sony or whatever. Like this is what, like this will be like the lead off event to the golf season next year or in two years, I think. But yeah, I would say he's like a top 60 player in the world.

He's 49th in data golf rankings, which is right around like Matt McCarty, which feels right to me. Thorne-Ullison, Michael Thorbjornson, Rico Hoey, Adam Scott, J.T. Poston, Jordan Speeth, Ryan Gerard, Nick Taylor in that group, like, yeah, that feels right.

I think that's, that feels right to me. I think I'm just, I'm a little resistant to, to, I can see, I can feel it coming. This is going to be kind of the same Neiman thing, which Neiman missed the cut as well this week.

I was kind of a little alarm, alarm bells on Neiman in the last several months has been really, really tough stuff. I think he either got rid of his swing coach, or he's going through some swing changes and it just feels like a toxic, toxic combustible recipe if he's going to change things up. All right. I'm going to give a shout to our friends at SoFi,

Ultimate Finance app for sponsoring today's SoFi, get your money right moment. You can go to sophy.com slash NLU to learn more about how you can get your money right with SoFi. Plus I'm going to play this clip. I think golf.com put this little edit together. Quotes from Rory talking about a unique dollar-related situation over there on the DP World Tour.

Rory, just in terms of the Ryder Cup, but it'd just be easier for around Manhattan to pay their fines. They could probably afford it. Yeah, absolutely. My thing is, like, this is my opinion. We went really hard on the Americans last year about wanting paid to play the Ryder Cup.

And we all sat up there and said that we would pay to play in Ryder Cups. There's two guys that can prove it. Right? I think that's, yeah. Fuck yeah. God, this was my whole platform heading into the Ryder Cup. Like, they were so sanctimony as about this money, money shit.

And here the Hatton and Rom were refusing to pay their fines after Liv stopped paying their fines. Like, God, I appreciated Rory put his money where his mouth is on this one. I do too. I, man, I know he, he shouldn't, but I love it when Rory starts running this mouth like this. That's, that's good stuff. He's, yeah, I think he's 100% right. Uh, I will say if you're watching, if you saw the clip, the video that, the, the, the scrolling background.

It was so bad. It was messing with me all week. I saw a bunch of clips from that press conference from different players. And I'm like, man, it looks like they're on a circular table or something. It's just, yeah, I know we're trying to get a lot more brand awareness up there, but that just threw me off. But yeah, good for Rory. I don't know.

He's got, I'm sure Hatton and Rahm don't like hearing that, but he doesn't have to talk to them until, you know, four times a year until the Ryder Cup, he can make nice with him. But he's not wrong. what do you think it's easy you know i think this is this is an internal issue for us internal locker room issue i'd like to handle it internally uh you know francesco is in the field this week he played well finished top 10 let's let's huddle together and and do that i saw they i saw they ambushed hatton with it after the round one day or after one of the pro-am days and you know he he kind of

pled ignorance on it so uh i don't know we'll see like how much are the fines It, what, I don't know exactly, but I think it was around 100k, 100,000 pounds per start on Live. So it's in the millions of dollars that these guys would owe the DP World Tour. Yes. Rory also would continue on to say, go ahead, you know. Well, I would just say like, here's this, here's this quote on on why. So like, Roy said any organization or any member's organization like this has its right, has a right to uphold its rules and regulations. And what the DP World Tour are doing is upholding their rules and regulations.

we as members sign a document at the start of every year, which has you agree to these rules and regulations. And the people that made the option to go to live knew what they were. So I don't see what's wrong with that. I agree with. But it's also like at this point, Rah Manhattan is like, thanks for me with your army.

Clearly you let me play in the Ryder Cup. Like, why, you know, track me down for it then, you know, like they kind of neutered the DP World Tour already. Like,

why would they go and pay it now? Well, I think it was because the appeal, they find them they you know they it was upheld and they appealed and that appeal was not set before the rider cup i think it's either next month or not set yet i don't know when the actual appeal is but they essentially on appeal we're able to keep playing and play in the rider cup but it is anticipated that before 2027 rider cup this will be through appeals and they will owe the money and they yeah so they're calling the bluff of like yeah are you going to really not let me

play uh i get the sentiment though that it's serious this time And like, no, you're not, you're, you can't just bypass this and, and still get to. So, so is this the DP world tour getting their money right? I believe, yes, that is, that is my tie into the so-fi, get your money right. Exactly right. It sounds like Pete, like plans on, he's fine to pay the fine. Yes, that's another thing. Yeah, Patrick Reed had comments that I don't plan on stopping.

I mean, if we play well enough, we had to pay fines to still continue to show support on this tour. so then so be it he's not even european he's like i'll yeah i'll pay fine scub play on the dp world tour that's totally fine like respect to pee on that one uh i i i just don't get how rom can get a three hundred million dollar contract and not and and still want to play the dp world tour still want to play in the rider cup and not just fork up the money for that it's pennies to you and it's unnecessary headache and the live daddies took care of it for a while for you and now you're on your own for it and it can't even be that much you don't play that many d't DP World Tour events.

Like, it can't be that much. Like, it is, it is so perfect. Rory's exactly right. It's so perfect on how much they have flown the flag on money. It's like, okay, you get a chance to pay millions of dollars to play in the Ryder Cup. Here you go. Like, let's see you actually do it. Yeah.

You got your money right. And now pay up. That's what it's for, right? Make this stuff go away. If Reed's going to pay up, they should let him on the U.S. Man, that could be an interesting situation for the European team. It's like, are we going to get into a state? I think they should have to play a couple men down at this point just to handicap it.

Like if they're full squad for Ireland, they're kind of wipe the floor to the US. So I think that it only adds intrigue if they don't are not able to bring their full team over so or you know for the home game. I think that's only fair. So I love how you changed your tune and you're respecting the European team. I appreciate that. Oh my God. I'm not going to dignify that comment truly.

Well, thanks to get into our friends at Sofi, the all in one finance app for the get your money right segment go to sofi.com slash nl you to learn more about how you can get your money right with sofi plus and let us know in the comments if you want to nominate somebody for the get your money right moment really upsetting stuff tc um Tommy has fallen um he had a big letter hat on uh during it was a total big letter hat and yeah what's the deal is does Tommy not have he's no longer with Nike that much is clear uh he's wearing a little bit of us the whole Yeah, no, he's a he's signed with Lulu. I don't think he signed.

Really? He was, yeah. Oh, I thought it was, that was a done deal. I don't know. It looks like a Lulu logo he's wearing right there. That's a master's. That's an Augustine National. Okay.

It is very small on the screen as we're recording this, but I just, that was tough. I think everywhere is falling at this point, solid. He's testing the waters with Lou Levin. Doesn't sound like he signed. You're right, T.C. You guys ready to distance? You want to do or you want to do live? Well, I mean, it sounds like the USDA and the RNA aren't ready to do.

All right. I guess we'll do that. We'll go there next. Listen, okay, so a statement released by the USGA titled Area of Interest, Implementation Date for the Update to the Overall Distance Standard Test for Golf Balls came out this past week. I'm just going to read the statement in totality. In December of 2023, the RNA and USGA published a notice of decision. on an update to the overall distance standard test for golf balls.

This required that all golf balls submitted for conformance evaluation for listing from January 2028 must conform to the new test conditions. At the same time, recreational golfers will be permitted to continue to play with previously conforming golf balls until January 2030. So, dumbing that down, pro golf or elite golf, rolled back golf ball starting 2028 and for everybody else starting in 2030, the continuum of the quote, it says, the governing bodies adopted this phased approach in response to contributions made during the decision-making process. The later implementation for the recreational game was intended to allow manufacturers more time to develop their full product lines and to provide an opportunity for retailers and golfers to exhaust any existing stock.

Since that announcement, the RNA and USGA have been progressing plans to support the implementation of this decision, including engaging with stakeholders on a range of issues. During this engagement, several stakeholders have expressed concerns over the potential, challenges that could come from the two-phase approach to implementation. Based on this feedback, the RNA and USJ are interested in soliciting views on a possible change from the phased implementation to a single date across the whole game, effective from January 2030. What's the reaction? TC, I know you're a big distance guy.

A reaction to this potential possible change. Okay, yeah, before you go to TC, I just want to get this straight. They have not, they're thinking about maybe making. it all in 2030. But that decision hasn't been made yet. I mean, you're reading between the lines, like, that decision has been made if they're going to kick, if they're going to even open the door to kicking the can down the road. But I'm just saying that statement didn't have a direct, like, correct.

Okay. All right. Thank you. They dribbled this out on, what, a Friday, you know, Friday afternoon, didn't really announce it. It got picked up by, I think Jim Nugent and Global Golf Post was the first. I saw of it on like Monday morning. I'm reading it as the PGA, like, you know, with stakeholders, I would imagine those

stakeholders are probably the PGA of America saying, hey, we're the ones that have to implement this at clubs and in section events and tournaments and stuff at our clubs and club championships and all that stuff. And this is going to be a mess. And, you know, are we supposed to test golf balls or whatever? So I think they're trying, my read is they're trying to get the PGA of. of America on board with this and say, all right, and it sounds like that that could be happening. Like the PGA of America is like, all right, give us more time, we will come on board.

It could be one of the reasons that our men desprag, you know, and then it sounds like the PGA of America may be getting closer to being in lockstep while the PGA tour gets, you know, further and further away. And I think the PGA of America, PGA tour relations are worsening as well, because. because I think the tour is going to start hammering them on like, hey, we want a big cut of the Ryder Cup or we, you know,

we want, we want more to release our players to play. So my read is that, you know, I don't know. It's, it's disappointing. Like,

it's not like this, this thing is a surprise or they haven't had to, like, the whole thing about, like, exhausting current stock of golf balls. Like, like,

sorry what? They announced this like four years ago, five years ago that, and we still have another two years to go. You're telling me that you can't exhaust your current stock of golf balls. I don't think the official rollback was announced. I'd have to look up the date on that. I don't think that was quite four or five years ago. They'd signify that it was going to happen, right? Here's, you know, all these comment periods.

It wasn't that long ago. It was two. I was like gave everybody four or five years of lead time total from then until. I remember when it was announced to your point, T.C., it felt like a long time away. And all of a sudden, it doesn't feel that far away, two years. But I always kind of found it. I understand from that statement as well, like, I understand why they were trying to lead with the high level golf and do the recreational stuff. But this weird, either do the bifurcation or don't.

Yeah. To, like, implement like a two-year bifurcation, basically, is, I think it's stupid. You got to rip the bandaid off. If we're going to do it, like pick a date and you just do it. Like I, I don't have a, I, the whole process is. This was always the plan. Like, I think it, all right, yeah, we're going to, you know, we're kind of doing it

bifurcated and it's going to ease into doing it for everybody. But now the plan would just be do it for everybody all at the same time. Maybe that was an easier message to deliver initially of like, yeah, we're going to, you know, start it with bifurcated, then it's going to trickle down to everybody. I don't know. That's my, that's my, you know, that's based on truly true speculation. But I think based on like speculation on my end is, is it sounds like the manufacturers, like, like Rory said, there was there's several interviews floating out out there. They're like, they've already gotten around the new regulations and that they're not, they're not all that well thought out.

And they're not going to accomplish what like the current testing modifications aren't going to accomplish. but they said that, you know. But it's also frustrating in that, like, the, the USGA and RNA put out the, you know, like a big distance thing back in like 02 or 03. So I'll give you some of this right here. So how things currently work. The overall distance standard, that's what defines the maximum yardage a golf ball can travel. This is set at 317 yards with a tolerance of 3 yards.

So golf balls are currently tested at 120 miles an hour club head speed. 10 degrees of launch and 25, 2,520 RPMs. So if you tested on the robot with those specifications, it can't fly farther than 320, basically. So that's the current speed of the ball. Starting what would now be in 2030, the overall standard stays the same, same distance, the 317 plus three yard tolerance.

But the testing conditions go up from 120 to 125. The launch angle goes from 10 to 11 degrees, and the RPMs go down from 2,500 to 2,200. It's a more realistic. Yeah, that wasn't in that statement, though. So that's, this is old. This is old. Okay.

This is when they announced the change in the distance standard or, you know, the distance remains the same, but how they're testing it is what is changing. That is what the rollback is. Like that's all. My thing was just like the USGA announced in what, 2002 or 2003 that, hey, we're very concerned with distance and,

but we're going to be asleep at the wheel for the next two decades. Here is I'm crediting Jeff Shackleford's news. letter here, but when the USGA and RNA released a joint statement of principles in 2002, back then, and 2002, they suggested that any further significant increases in hitting distance at the highest level are undesirable. At that time, the average driving distance on tour was 279 and a half yards. The average distance last year on the PGA tour was 302.8 yards. That is a 23-yard gain after the two-piece ball came out. Like the big jump was in 99 and a two-piece ball. 2000. Like that was, you know, obviously there was titanium drivers in the 90s, a lot of that,

but like the big thing that was blamed was like, are the new golf ball. There's been 23 yards since then. And since they said distance is a problem. So like, yeah, sleep at the wheel thing is, is, it's just compounding interest at this point. And like, I think we probably would have to do our own separate full distance episode to properly address this. But there are a lot of suspicions in the golf world that this rollback is going to actually be effective for what we'd like it to be. We'll have a conversation coming up this coming week with a guest as well where we dive into this with a little bit more detail. But the big question for me still is like, is this worth using all of your capital for to push

this change through? Because if this doesn't go well, good luck legislating anything else that actually might be effective with driving distance. And I want driving distance to be regulated full stop. I have different thoughts on how to get there, not being an engineer or scientist or have any idea how to execute it. But the risks, the things I would like changed are not described in this change in testing. And not in cut. I don't think that gets rid of the problem, which is like it's not risky to hit the driver and it's easier to wail on it.

Yeah. I think that I agree. It's like I don't want to. The only thing worse than no solution is a bad solution. That's kind of where I'm at. But you know what I'm curious about is like what I'd love to see what's the and I who knows if this is even a stat that's track but what irons has the distance with irons gone up is it just driver because then then I'm like man could we talk about something as simple as like you can't tee it up so dang high so you can't hit up on it. Do you know what I'm saying? Like is it?

Yes. Because I haven't hit. I don't hit my irons any farther with new. I get new clubs and I know that's not what. you're going for with irons but do you get what i'm guarantee you're irons farther than you did 15 20 years like like ball speeds up across the board like the balls are faster sure i do you guys understand what i'm going out here though i do i are we are we going after the wrong like the ball is long standards too much of like there's a lot of different factors in play but the ball's the one thing

that they can change and it affects everybody but so to your point like you know it seems like they've been pretty clumsy with the process here and with with you know kind of how how they've gone about um prescribing what the fix is it seems like it needs to be more of a multifaceted solution it's not just a ball right i think again my my stance on this is i think by itself the distance the ball goes is too far i think that's part of it i think component of distance a bit yeah a bit yeah but i put a percentage on that. Let's say it's 20%, 25%, 30% of the problem. I don't know. For me, the way bigger problem is that you have big driverheads that you are incentivized to swing hard and that you can hit off the toe and it draws right down the middle, hit off the heel and it cuts.

You are incentivized to get faster and faster and faster because the risk of hitting it offline is not great enough. And that is a problem that trickles down in many, many different ways, leads to more driver wedge. I don't think like Scotty Shepler's eight iron going too far is like what is ruining the game. I don't think it's even close on that. No, I don't either. That's, that's kind of, I guess what I'm getting at is. And then it's tough because I have two sides of my brain. It's like what I'm watching like a center for ants, Amex, you know, 26 under 30, we're flirting with 30 under until we double 17. And what I'm hitting like when I'm playing the new technology, like, yo, I like it in the fair way. I'm not having any less fun. Like I don't

feel I don't feel like the technology has de-skilled my personal game. I do feel like it's deskilled the high end of the game. Do you know what? So I struggle with those two pieces of it. Does that make sense? Yes. And it's like every I love having this conversation because I think it's interesting to talk about. But every every part of it leads to a different part. Because I think what I would also say, Neil, is if if you went, if we played the AMX this past week with all everyone used persimmon drivers. Sure. It would have been a different tournament. The scores would have been higher. I think that's without. of doubt.

Yeah. And I think like if you went out and had to play a Persemin driver next week, you might play a different set of T's. So my point with technology is continuing to move back. Like the farther you hit it, the more likely you are to just move backwards anyways, to find the challenge that you're looking for, right? Like if you cover a bunker at 240 with your current driver, what do you feel when you do that?

What do you feel? Nothing. I feel nothing. You would feel good. Sure, but you would feel nothing. You're not even noticing a bunker you're carrying out. I can't even see that. But if you hit a persimmin driver, you're bigger,

I got to hit this on the screws to cover that bunker. If I miss hit it, I'm in it. Oh, and I love playing hickories. Like, I love, you know, I like that kind of golf too. I'm just saying, though, in, and I don't want this to get into a personal golf discussion. But that's where I'm, I'm like, man, I just woke up and I'm,

I feel like I'm in the center of the golf ball, the distance debate. And I'm like, man, I got two sides of my, truly brains like both things can be right i'm like man i'm really enjoying the top of the line clubs i'm hitting and i'm also like add it looks it looks a little too for these guys to make bird on the tv there i think that is i'm like well i can't square those two you know so are you like i used to be anti bifurcation now i think i'm pro bifurcation i that's where i'm trying to get at maybe is like i why don't we just and you were all they were already going to

kind of bifurcated for two years i'm like maybe that's that's why that's where i'm like maybe that's the answer. I do apologize if you please to listen to Tuesday's episode, but we do talk about some of this with our guest as well. I'm probably using some of the same lines record this couple weeks ago. I don't remember what I said. But I would say I can't, I don't think the public is ready to for the for the conversation or realization that a rollback would not be a bad thing for them. Because again, the way I view this question is there's technology A and set of T's A that go, that go together. There's technology B instead of T's B that go together, right?

I don't think I don't, if I had to play Per Simmons tomorrow, I would not be tipping it out at Tim Aquana. I just wouldn't. Like that's not, that'd be too much golf course. I don't want to do that. Like, I think as a whole in golf,

we could all afford to move forward. And if we're making too many birdies, we can move back. I don't think, like the, I definitely don't think Americans would, would do that. Like, it's just not the way humanity works. Like, it's just not the way people's brain works. So, a bit of a coffee in the brain.

room you can't take it away people are really dumb to people it's it's like you know it's like taking guns away kind of thing i'm like no this is my distance and it's my god given right and i'm talented that's true tc and i think that that because but i totally agree that i think a bad rollback now like they're not going to get another chance to do this if they if they roll it out bad and it doesn't work as intended and it doesn't sound like it's going to work as intended like it's Like it sounds like it could even dumb the game down more where there's less spin and there's less dispersion and all of that. Because that's what makes me mad is like misfits and yeah, they're like their consequences, right? There's the ball doesn't spin as much anymore and spin control is not a, you know, not as as just important of a skill.

But God, well, I mean, we were doing the CB McDonald pod with DJ and it's like the same argument was going on in the 1900 like 1910, 1920. It's, it's, you know, time is a flat circle here. Like, there are, I think the spin thing, though, is like way is a true, like, technological advancement that is, like, really hard to regulate and unwind. Like, I just don't think you can, like, make the ball go offline more. Like, you know what I mean? Well, I think you could regulate the materials that a golf ball is made out. Like, I just don't understand why every other sport can self-regulate. And, like, golf just straight up can't.

Like, like, swimming did it. tennis does it all the time. I'll tell you why. It's because you're swimming. You're always, you know, like golf is such a game against yourself in the golf course that like anything, they can sell and market to you to improve. Like that there's such a personal marketing thing that goes into everything, right? And there's personal improvement to everything, personalization to it that like is very applicable. Like a golf ball, we have all of different golf ball fits among us.

like it that fit our game a lot better and um you're not you know in tennis you don't get to like pick the the tennis ball that fits you best because like you're playing the same ball back and forth but unless you're playing alt shot no one else is touching your golf ball yeah like that's that's kind of the uh what what what drives a lot of because again i always end up at like dude i don't know how to i don't know how to make it make sense i can't go to like brian roll up and be like you should roll the ball back because it's going to make you more money. Because I just don't, I don't think that's how it's going to work. I think for the sake of the game, it's obvious, but like it's been so commercialized at this point

that it's really hard to unwind that kind of mentality in it. So I wonder how I wonder what Roleap's thinking about this. I'd be curious. I was fascinated to know what he's talking about. Kind of new, new like walking it in the room like, all right, yeah, this is this whole thing. It's kind of outside of my organization, but it impacts it in a big way. And I have big sway over. Like I really wonder what he's thinking.

Just such outsized influence on like it's a, you know, hundreds of billions of dollars represented by the golf industry and only I think like 15 to 20 percent of that is the OEMs and the equipment manufacturers like the like the courses and the architects and the, you know, the rest of the industry is bare the. The rest of the industry is bearing the cost of this, you know. It's endlessly complicated and, you know, I don't think. Well, to bring it back around, though, like, okay, maybe big ass decision here, like, maybe I'm okay kicking the can for a couple years.

If we're. Yeah. I just thought I wish we could. You know. Yeah, I know. Just the standard. Like, are we going to like work together on this? Or like you said, are we going to, are the governing body is going to force this through?

And like, yeah, I, I agree with Juan and the USGA that like, yo, we got to do something. But I don't know if it's like jamming something through that's the wrong fit is is concerning. Especially when like maybe the smartest guys are like at these OEMs and they might just like solve the test before the test gets put out in 2030. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's a lot more rocket scientists over there. Like they might figure it out. Let's call the rocket scientist and say, hey, we're going to. what I mean.

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with that technology because it's getting way too good. I'll tell you that. I want, I just want one tournament play with Persimmons and let's just see what happens. One day. Make everyone play with Persimins for one day of the tournament. Well, that and then also we got to do the Muni tournament, TC, where all the pros carry their own bag,

the greens are stimping at like eight. I think that would slow out there. They got to wait on every T, you know, like all just all the stuff that the muni golfers deal with. Well, I think it's slow out there anyway. I think it's pretty slow as it is. But they, the, uh, I think the ball strikers on tour should all band together and be like, we want slower greens because it's going to like this stuff favors, like it's letting bad ball strikers back in the mix too much, these fast greens. Like, all right, like make it to where you got to hit it inside 10 feet if you want to make a birdie.

Can I, can I back up just to grips generally? Guys, I bought a vice and I bought a re-gripping package on, on Amazon. I'm going to get down in the workshop. I'm going to re-grip some clubs here in the next month. Get ready for, for spring. I've never re-gripped clubs before. Never. No, I haven't.

So I want to, that was, that's kind of one of those things. I'm like, yeah, I want to do this. I want to be the only time, uh, I regroup my clubs. I cut my, I cut my pinky open, you know, when we were like, maybe like 13 or 14, I was like, that's the last time I'm ever regripping my own clubs. All right. Well, I'll try to avoid doing that. It's bleeding everywhere.

After I finish shoveling all the snow, then I'm next I'm going to regroup my clubs. Trust fund boys. Never had the, never had the golf course chopper. We had to regroup the clubs for the members like I had. Oh, I played. I just played everything into the ground, Sally. I didn't know you could regrip them. TC, take us to some live golf news, if you don't mind.

Yeah. Michael Assasso, one of our once future villains on tour, has been ripped away from us. He will forego his amateur status to join LiveGolf and more specifically the high flyers. Putting out all content this week. I believe they were at Phil's, you know, personal backyard range. there. I think for what I'm hearing, it's like a million bucks a year for four years,

plus, you know, all the stuff. I think he was telling people it was a lot more than that, but that's what I'm hearing. If that's incorrect, you know, feel free to correct me.

But, and if he's in the relegation zone at season's end, he's S. Like he's out. So no guarantees. There's interesting back on- Ritocracy on live. Can I just say, though,

this is a bummer. I say what you want. You guys are at the Walker Cup. I know Lassaso, my, you know, big personality could have been a villain, whatever. God, I cannot get enough of watching him hit the golf ball. I mean, the move is crazy, man. The way he uses the ground, like fun golf swing to watch. So that's a bummer for me. Of course, I could go watch him on live. I could throw the CW on or whatever it's on now, but I'm not going to seek it out anymore. So that's... God, you're going to get so clipped up. It's on Fox now, Neil. Come on. All right. Well, yeah, maybe I will watch it then. But I just, you know what I'm trying to say? Like, I like unique golf swings.

He has a unique golf swing. Now, I don't know, like, it looks like he's going to, you know, tear his, like, labroman is hip next week the way he turns on it. But it's a, it's a fun golf swing to watch. And I wish there were more unique golf swings like that. So that's all I'll say. Yeah. Graham McDowell entered the.

Yeah, entered the fray with it. He had a take on the matter, which, yeah, it was hot take, but live as a legitimate pathway for young potential superstars who can get paid to be mentored in their young careers by tour grades and play a guaranteed schedule. The road of the PGA tour is increasingly perilous and littered with great talent that never made it. Yeah, man. Close, super close on this one, dude. Yeah, also like, I don't know, how's James Piot doing or Andy Ogletree doing?

too. Who are the great players that never made it on the PGA tour also? It weren't great, right? Yeah, I think you just got to prove the greatness is kind of the thing. It's also not a pathway.

Like, you just, they just pick and choose who they want to invite there. And there's no, there's no guarantee back to the tour through it. Look,

it's a cash grab. It takes, you know, he's going to play for a lot of money and get some guaranteed money. He gets, he's going to be doing that next year instead of like,

you know, fighting for corn fairy status and, you know, trying to work his way up the ladder in on the PGA tour. Like the offering is very legitimate for a young player out of tour, especially one that maybe potentially has a little bit of doubt in their talent and doesn't have major championship aspirations. Like, yeah, this is a very legitimate thing to go do. They're going to pay you a lot of money to go play golf. It's not a bad deal. So the reasons I watch golf are very different than that. But I can understand the youngster being in that scenario, wanting that. But this does nothing for Live to quell any of the suspicions that a lot of people have about it

or things that they don't like about it. It's like feeds more into that beast of he did not qualify for this and just gets a, gets a, gets a, gets a check to go to go play out there. So like I, I don't know, Eugenio Chakara like he basically left Live because he felt like it wasn't helping his career and had bigger aspirations, I guess. But yeah, I don't know. Like he's walking away from a from a master's invite too, which is, which seems on brand for him.

Like that part doesn't really surprise me. I think, you know, some of us, you know, give the, give the masters put it on upon a pedestal, probably the pedestal it deserves, but he's guys, guys a little reckless from, from all the stories we've heard. So that part doesn't really surprise me, surprise me that much. But yeah, yeah, I mean, it's an interesting question, though, of like millions and millions of dollars for, I mean, we'd probably miss the cut,

the masters, most amateurs do. You know, for the five days you'd get at Augustine National, what's that tradeoff like? I guess it's, why do you play golf? If it's to make money, it's an easy decision. If it's for something more than that, it's a lot more difficult decision, I would think. So did you catch any of the Live Golf Showcase award show?

I just saw that my guy now called Flat Perez, got influencer of the year. and there were some some suspicious awards given out. John Rom won most clutch despite not winning a tournament last year out on the circuit. But I didn't know there was a live golf showcase awards

until this week. I did a couple laughs out of that one. Adelaide won tournament of the year. Concert of the year was also Dom Dala on Adelaide. They still do in Shoees, T.C. I'm not sure, Neil. I'm not sure. Let's see here.

The Majestics won the Impact Award. So, yeah. Yeah, Bob does sports doing best golf influencer moment of the year. So a bubble one comeback player of the year. Cleaks did not. I didn't see a single clique in the, oh, no, Blandy, approach of the year at Mexico City. God, we need to start awarding. We should do an awards.

Sounds like some good awards. words yeah they gave him a lot I think it's kind of participation is that true that he's now going by flat Perez he lost all the way yeah did he really yeah lost a ton of weight good for him man and straight up like I was kind of worried about that guy like I hope I hope so that's awesome yeah my son huge huge fat Perez guy I mean same here dude that guys he's he's all the bob does sports guys I'm a big fan of them he was fascinated by He was like, dad, there's, that guy's name's Fat Perez over there during the creator classics.

Freddie, was pretty impressed that I whipped his ass in the creator classic or no? He was. I'm just kidding. He was. Those guys are like legitimately some of the best creators, uh, if not the best out there doing it, like truly entertaining funny stuff. Um, I just, I was worried that guy's going to run himself into the ground. Yeah.

I mean, I was out of the Muzzo.U Ho pro.m. It just feels like like Fat Perez specifically just like on flights, you know, will play have clubs will travel it's like man of clubs will don't spin out of control brother i hope it seems like he's doing great so congrats to him for that good but uh neil live announces going back to the new york market in my backyard baby benminster let's go oh all right down the couple exits down let's go uh yeah third time at bedminster uh first time since 2023 uh dates look like August 6th to 9th. So maybe I'll have to get some boots on the ground.

Go check it out. Come on. I had not been to a live event. And I'm wide open to go. I'm not going to go out of my way, but this is very much in my way. It's right down the street. You know the garden party, you know, the Cleeks? You know what's funny?

My father-in-law, who has no interest in golf, he went to the live event back in 2023 at Bedminster. Went out for a day, walked around. He was like, yeah, he's just tons of music. I remember him being like, yeah, he literally just bought a ticket, told me afterwards. He's like, yeah, I went to this golf tournament. ever heard of this live thing? It was awesome.

It's fantastic stuff. So I might have to pull that move in August. Can you believe this is Liv's fifth season? Like it just doesn't seem possible. Yeah. So this is the fifth U.S. event confirmed for the 2026 season. There's going to be one more unveiled. I assume that's almost certainly going to be in the U.S.

They have eight international events scheduled. So this is matching their. their balance from 2025, eight international events, six U.S. They had seven U.S. in 2024, seven in 20203. They have claimed to be the world's golf tour, yet the country that they host the most events in is by far the United States. It has gone down a little bit below 50 percent. But do we think Liv's going to like slowly start to pull away from the U.S.?

Is that just live bullshit that we're hearing about, you know, the P.J. Tour owns the U.S. and we own the world. You know, it's a little talking out of both sides of their mouth, which I know they like to do, but they don't seem to be anxious to leave the U.S. in particular. Especially when you've got some, you got a Piff funding this thing.

You would think, all right, this gives us more wherewithal to go to interesting places that, like if your goals to grow the game, like how have they not had something down in Santiago, Chile, with, you know, Neiman or,

like, I know they've got the, the Mexico City event at Chapultapac. They took that from us, sorry. But, you know, like, I don't know, I would just anticipate, like, have a second event in Australia. Or, you know,

it just seems like they're, they're kind of running back the same stuff that hasn't really taken hold as of yet. Like, some of the vibes at some of these places outside of the Grange, it gets tough. There's just not a lot going on. Yeah.

I did find it interesting it's going to back to a DT golf course. He did say that he could famously said he could solve this issue in 15 minutes and not only that did not go well when that happened. We're back at a Trump course for well PJ Tours back in the Trump course too.

True. Correct. So yeah you get he's a winner out of all this but yeah it did not you know not a lot of great momentum going into this year. Did see some funny stuff about people being you know thinking the trade uh of kepka for elvis smiley was

actually a really good thing for them but uh i don't know it just doesn't hit the same anymore as it once did i'm making up in the aggregate les sasso and that's a victor peros you cannot replace a gombie okay yeah kefka we're going to make him up in the aggregate so le sassa hey how about that he's got some prospect adaburg i love that he's got he's got big thighs big thighs big trunk. I love that. Guys, we got a new film coming out this week from Nebraska.

You guys took a little special brothers trip out to Nebraska. T.C., why don't you tell us a little bit about that and what that experience was like? Yeah, this thing's coming out, what, Wednesday? Wednesday premiere.

Yes. This week on our, on our no laying up YouTube channel. I think Nebraska's as close as you can get to Scotland, in the United States, as far as golf and almost, like the feeling you get when you're there too of the people and it's just a really authentic experience and uh it's it's like it kind of brings you back to the simplicity of why you play golf

in the first place you're just playing over these cool landscapes and in um you know in the wind on sandy soil and all that but it's the most landlock state in the united states and And somehow it's got all this sand and great land for golf. So we went through. We played Bayside. We played Frederick Peak. We played the horse course at Prairie Club. We played Caprock Ranch,

but Wild Horse. We played Sand Hills. We stopped by a few other, or we played Mullen Golf Club as well. Stop by a few other courses, some honor box places. We were going to stop at Pelican Beach as well. but we got distracted and went to the rodeo

that we saw on the side of the road instead. Truly, pulled up on a rodeo. Yeah, Arthur, Nebraska. But Neil, what did you think of the trip? I think Randy said this about Scotland. You feel nostalgic in a place that you've never been, which is exactly how I felt in Nebraska. What I loved is we did hit the whole spectrum.

Yes, we played at Sand Hills. Can you play there? Probably not. But you know what? we hit some honor box spots the whole spectrum wild horse i think about it all the time tc like i just love that golf course and that is about as public as you can get and uh yeah it's just like a good old-fashioned american road trip with my brother and uh you know dege just it was good stuff man and i think this is going to be one of our best videos that we ever put out it's awesome so um yeah

It was kind of, we filmed it like in the middle last summer and I don't want to say I blacked out. But like, we just had a lot going on. And so watching it through this like the edit and stuff, I was like, God, that was such an awesome trip. And maybe I wasn't like super present for the whole thing. But I just, I'm, I love it. I'm really fired up for it to go out into into the world. And I'd say Nebraska should just rocket up people's big board. If you're willing to, if you like road trips, you should consider.

Nebraska as a golf trip option. Like, yeah, there's some space in between some of these courses, but there's a lot of accessible places, and the price is right at a lot of them. And there's like, I mean, we didn't even play at Prairie Dunes and that place looked awesome, T.C.

I got to get back out there. Well, Prairie Dunes is in Kansas. Sorry. Perry Club. Excuse me. I get, yeah, I get those two mixed up. But, Perry Club. Yeah, you got all sort of like dismal rivers out there. You've got

Gray Bowl is a new one out there. Like there's, O'Wari Dunes is cool. You got all sorts of stuff, but also, um, yeah, just the,

like we played the front nine at, at Bayside, aka Mr. Belding's place. And, uh, and we ended up, you know,

and then we, and then we played the 11th hole. We should have played the back nine, but we couldn't get off the back nine because they were slammed that day. Um, but it was just like that 11th hole was, you know it's like 650 yards along like a knife's edge basically getting progressively more severe

and narrow as you get up close to the green um and then you've got other stuff that's just i mean like you know frederick peak you know frederick is tom layman and his design partner chris brands and you love that place you were like it was like the best best elements of a hike yeah and just community community golf course community build community funded community like Like, just, I think I said it in the edit, like, man, if I, I would love to like, fuck off and just like build a golf course in a small town. Like go move to a small town and build a golf course, which is exactly what they did out there in a town of like 2,000 people.

And it's just an awesome golf course. Jason, all team. They just take great care of it. It's great, man. It's awesome. Anyway, go watch the video. That's like, yeah, it seems like there's a, there's a through line of. you know, a lot of these places they've been,

like population's been shrinking and some of them are starting to grow again or, or, but it seems like every town in Nebraska, it's got to have three or four things to be like a real legitimate town. It's got to have a post office, a school, a golf course and a church. Those are like the four things.

And maybe a bar. Yeah, maybe a bar. But, yeah, I mean, like, like an Arthur,

we stopped at the rodeo and then we went to the, what was that bar house yeah the bunk house and we're there talking to them and they're like we're like all right how many people live in this town like i don't know like 133 or something like that and we're like all right well like is this the county seat yes the county seat i was like how many people live in the whole county maybe like 600 there's one cop the entire county and uh it's it's just it in bar was huge too it's an awesome place it's an awesome place to go in the summer like You're surrounded by wildflowers, massive dunes and just the chop landscape. Solly, at one point down at Wild Horse, we got, it was really foggy.

You know why it was foggy? Because of the corn. Because all the moisture from the corn was like evaporating corn sweat. And then you got up farther north towards Valentine. You're more in cattle country and ranch country. There's unbelievable tubing and like, you know, and fly fishing. it's just it's a it's a fascinating landscape and uh it's yeah it's it's it's among my favorite place in the united states wow i got i've only watched about 20 minutes of the video and my

phoma was kind of overloading and uh i uh i'm excited for this wednesday i i want to see the final product and uh i know i'm going to get get kind of blown away by this one but excited for this one uh you want to give a shout out a couple shoutouts on our way out here tc yeah uh we've been talking our friends at East Sands golf and we uh i would highly advise if you're going to plan a golf trip for twenty twenty seven you reach out to them uh asap that things are starting to starting to move uh as far as you know tea sheets and such uh are going to open up here in the next month two months three months for twenty twenty seven so uh especially for scotland uh i know they've been they've been planning some cool trips for people in england you're looking for a twenty twenty twenty

six trip. There's still plenty of great golf to be had in England. I think it's the most overlooked, slept on, you know, area of the world as far as just great golf is concerned. And you can do it for cheaper than Scotland, too. They had a great, great England email this week just with some, some trip ideas. So, uh, East sands. dot Theo slash NLU. And you can see everything there. That's our, that's our landing page on there. and NEST members get $500 off per person on any trip you book. Which is insane.

That's insane. It's a good deal. Can I just, I'd say, nest gifts landing, have landed, landing this week. Guys popped in the refuge thread. I feel in it. I think we might have rocked them. I mean, it's an off-the-wall gift this year. I don't think I updated my address.

I don't know if I'm getting one. And I'm, I kind of, The conversation's already drifted off into like, if we like disposable ballmarkers or something, we didn't even offer a ballmarker, T.C. Right? That's not even in the gift this year. But I know, I just, I think we rocked them. And I think it's going to be one of those gifts that keeps on giving for years to come.

It's a great re-gift. You know, if you don't like it, I think there's someone in your life that will like it. So I'm fired up about that. For, you know, Ness gift went out to all 2025 members. If you want to sign up for the nest, you can at no layingup.com forward slash join running the massive nest member sale in the pro shop too. So if you're a nest member, go check that out. Store. Not knowlayingup.com for that sale.

But I think we rocked it with the nest member gift this year. I'm fired up. That's kind of a bummer. It's kind of really fun to watch you freak out. No, there's a couple people that are pissed like I'll never use this. I'm like, great. That's fine. But like I think it's just.

We'll say that every year. Yeah. This is a, this is a, I think this is a quality. I think it was well done. Targeted strike. LPGA kicks off their season this week at the Hilton Grand Vacations Tournament of Champions. DP World Tours off to Bahrain for the Bopco Energy's Ballrain Championship. PGA tour off to Tori.

Brooks Kebka is back. What do you guys expecting out of Brooks in his first start back on? Honestly, nothing. What do you think the reception is going to be like? I think it'll be like he will be fired up. I think though. I think like on the ground. people he's going to get cheered like oh for sure no people are going to be i don't think he's going to play

very well but i think people are going to be fired up like that he's back a lot of here we go brooks we love you brooks like all kinds of love for brooks but i don't think he's going to play well uh yeah i'll align with that i i bet he plays well at phoenix i bet he kind of needs needs a week to play himself into form uh we got to get our guy ludwig right he withdrew this week with some sort of stomach thing or sickness. And it seems to happen on the West Coast swing. And we got to get his immune system and his stomach right. Who wins this week?

Who's a pick to win? I think DJ picked Scotty this week, which is kind of, we might have to outlaw that one in this game. Yeah, Scotty playing. I'll give me Scotty. I'll say Ludwig. Okay. He won one of the two events last year, Tori.

I said Sam Stevens I'm going down the board a little bit Neil you got to pick I just take Scotty He's not playing this man he's not playing He didn't play tory Oh shit um Zander's first start this week

No I don't think Xander's gonna win Um Harry English Defending champ I could see it's Mediker Honestly you could talk me in like TC you're chatting up Jason Day earlier Talk me to Jason Day this week.

Of course for course. Yeah. I feel like he's got a really good record out here. Yeah. Give me Jason Day. I like that. All right. That's going to do it for this week.

We'll have a new interview episode coming out this coming Tuesday. And again, make sure you're around for our premiere of our Nebraska film on this coming Wednesday evening. We'll be back with a farmer's recap back on Sunday with the no championship weekend after with the new schedule changes for them. So we will be, you catch us on Sunday evening and then we'll be, yeah, gosh, then we're into waste management. Then it's Pebble Week and signature event SCN. So it's going to get going here very quickly. So thank you, as always, for tuning into the No Langa podcast. Thank you to our friends at Titleist, Arco, Sofi, and Golf Pride.

We'll catch you next week. Cheers. Crack on.