No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1114: Team Rose stunts, P is back, Florida cold catastrophe

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

Justin Rose decimates the field at Torrey while Patrick Reed nearly won again on the DP World Tour a few days removed from announcing he’s not returning to LIV, plus an LPGA fiasco at a frigid Tournament of Champions with the Orlando event shortened to 54 holes and Nelly Korda winning for the first time since 2024. Soly and TC recap the week along with DJ who joins for some first hand perspective on the LPGA side of things. TC also takes us around the wolf of golf with a quick monitoring list, plus LIV corner and a grab bag of miscellaneous topics. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro and P’s return 26:30 - DJ joins to laud Team Rose, recap Torrey 54:00 - TC’s 12 monitoring items 1:12:30 - DJ’s report from LPGA Orlando event Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nolayingup.com/esf⁠ Support our Sponsors: Titleist Rhoback SoFi If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Nest⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠nolayingup.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club today. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast. Sali here from a frigid,

frigid, northeast Florida location, not Florida cold here, T.C. It's just straight up cold here. It's straight up cold. All my tropical plants died. It was too windy to even cover. over him. This is our third cold snap. I know everybody feels bad for us,

sallie. It was winchills in the, it was five, wind chill of five overnight. All right, we're not being babies about this one, people. I promise you. This was a, and our houses are not meant for this stuff. So we're all snuggled up here tonight. Excused absence for our guy, Neil tonight. He was supposed to be with us, had a family situation pop up. Uh, uh, we were planning to, we had a whole segment, bunch of segments planned for him, but a late, a late withdrawal for our guy, Neil tonight. But what do we get into tonight? mr tc we got a lot to talk about sally it's i mean hark he he is not back yet but he will be back

a lot to talk about on the p front justin rose went absolutely ape shit at the farmers uh just team rose the great man uh we got some stuff in the pro golf world that i'm monitoring about a dozen different items that'll be a new segment for us and then we've got an absolute shit show on the l pGA tour uh thanks to the aforementioned cold weather here in Florida DJ is going to join us for that part and we've got some winners from around the world DP world tour and maybe the worst playoff I've ever seen before. Freddie shot won the Bapco Energy's Bahrain championship on the corn fairy tour down in Panama Ian Holt won the LPGA tour Nelly won the Hilton Grand Vacations tournament of champions with a big fat asterisk on it.

Solly, where do you want to start? Well, first of all, Ian Holt, that's the second win already on the corn fairy tour season that hit down there at the Panama Championship. But we we got at least mention this. We're not going to start with the farmers. We've got to mention off the top who was the most dialed of anyone this past week. The great man you mentioned it, Justin Rose. He had the farmers pretty much locked up by Thursday, Thursday afternoon. Kind of felt like it was it was night, night from them. The one piece of equipment that he used on every shot that is of course his ProV1x golf ball. He moved into the current generation title is ProV1X last spring. says it gives them the perfect combination of maximum distance in the long game,

tons of spin in the short game, an incredible distance control into the green. Rosie was one of 107 players in the field this week at Tori Pines, playing a ProV1 or ProV1X. That's more than eight times the nearest competitor. If you don't know what golf ball model best suits your game, you should head to Titleist.com to learn more and find out what ball model is your ideal fit. Of course, the NoLing up podcast officially brought to you by our friends at Titleist.

All right, big news of the week that we're going to get to here first, TC. P is back. This feels like it was a couple weeks ago now. This broke on Wednesday. We had quite a lot of fun. Plus credit TC. TC had the scoop. It was scoop adjacent on this one,

teased it out there before it was announced. Patrick Reed had a long statement. The PGA tour released the statement said, Patrick Reed has informed the PGA tour of his desire to return a nine-time PGA tour winner. He is seeking reinstatement of his PGA tour membership for the 2027. season playing out of the past champion category. As a result of resigning his membership in 2022,

prior to violating any PGA tour regulations, Patrick is eligible to compete on the PGA tour as a non-member beginning August 25, 2026. He may also pursue improved PGA tour status via the DP World Tour. Similar to anyone reinstated under the returning member program, any former PGA tour member returning to the PGA tour would be ineligible for participation in the player equity program. through 2030.

We're going to break down what all of that means, all that in that statement. But first, what's your, we got to be careful what we wish for on this pod because last week we just said we want P back. When we were saying that, I did not, again, did not think this was a realistic possibility

that this was going to happen. I thought he'd be back on Live this year. A lot of people on the live side were made that very clear. And P, after going to live Media Day, like it, I'm guessing something changed with having won the hero last week. Yeah, it definitely provides a smoother pathway back for him.

As part of the statement, they also clarified that he is eligible for the P cup, the president's cup, which, I mean, Sally, is that just throwing a wrench into future, future rider cups? I've thought about this, T.C. I'm actually closer to welcoming him back for that than I am pursuing whatever path they're on. We were closer with Pete. Yeah, we were closer with that guy than we currently are. So honestly, I kind of, yeah, I'm open to it at this point. I'm kind of open to anything at this point. Solly, I was thinking, I was sitting there the other day thinking about all the downstream effects from this.

And I got so giddy at the, at the thought of P being a future Rider Cup captain. Oh my, all right. And Lady J being. It's real it back. Let's let's get back to, you know, let's see if he gets his PGA tour card back. Let's start working up to that. He was in a playoff, playoff P this week. in Bahrain.

He's like he's basically already locked up, uh, or pretty close to it locking up top 10 status, you know, of those not already eligible for the PGA tour for next year. You know, he's well on his way. I'm,

I'm fascinated to see how he builds out the rest of his DP world tour schedule. This year, uh, you know, I'm hoping that he shows up in Kenya, DLF, things of that nature. Overall, I just,

I don't know. I feel like we need villains. And this is a good, this is a good start to to rebuilding uh just the full cast of characters of the pga tour that that's that's well said i don't want to i want to i don't want to i don't want this to get confused i still feel pretty much the same about patrick reed about his antics about how his family has treated the world of golf how he has treated the rules of golf allegedly over the course of the last several years like none of that goes away with this news but he's interesting

He's fun to follow. He makes you feel emotion when you see him on the golf course. When you see him, you know, telling rules officials that they're free to stick their finger in there. When you see, you know, the doctored footage of him down in the Bahamas. Like, it makes you feel something. I felt absolutely nothing when he played on Live. And I would much rather him and the, the, his class of player that are like, yeah, you're not my favorite player, but you do make the game more interesting.

Coming back to, you know, somewhere that we have context around what the game of golf means or this this level of game of golf means that's really exciting and like again it's it's you know part of me in the early part of the week in the initial wave of this reaction was like dude live is in trouble like this is you know kind of a cascading effect the more you zoom in on like the individual considerations and nature of the keppka deal and the reed deal the less i feel like it is going to be a cascading effect i mean you know bryson rom and cam smith by all indications are of course unless there's a crazy last second reversal here as we're recording this are not coming back to the pga tour and the returning member program and i think changing the hero

changed the calculus for p of like all right you're telling me i can be playing the fall series on the pga tour this coming fall i've essentially locked up my card by winning the hero i'm going to run rough shot over the dp world tour anyways like i'm probably the number one seed coming out of those 10 cards that are going to come out of there plus past champion status i don't know if he's getting any sponsor exemptions but he might based on how brooks keppka got treated today uh in this past week but it had to just be like hey i am like six six and a half months away maybe almost seven months away from playing on the pga tour again if i just like don't go back to live for one more year and and by all account the reports we've heard i forget the original source of this report was like

that live met his contract demands and he just decided no like i'm out like they had already shot the four aces videos and stuff this past like a lot changed here in this past week yeah which actually that was a good video i yeah i think uh it sounds like between behind the scenes this is per uh our good buddy flushing it over in the uk and bob herig i believe as well uh it sounds like dp world tour and live or is basically telling live players moving forward will give you a release for live events and will not be fined for teeing now granted you still have to clear your fines and take care of those from the past but yeah just very fascinating to see what's going on between live the pga tour and the dp world tour because it seems like dp world tour all right they're getting

a little bump here from uh p maybe others you know kind of easing back into the o wgr ecosystem topping up on some points you know using that as a path way back to the tour. Is the tour tired of subsidizing the DP World Tour and SSG may be saying, hey, let's cut them loose. Maybe they sell them to their, maybe they sell their stake to the Saudis. Like, things could get really interesting here in the next six to eight months. I'm very, very, very keen. Uh, meanwhile, Sally, what, what's going on with like the likes of Kevin Nah, Pat Perez, Wesley Brian, Hudson Swapford? Uh, well, backing up to your, your boys report alleged in there.

It does sound like there's a big caveat in there of, again, if this is a credible report, which is TBD, that there's going to be a required number. Like, you can't, they're going to get releases to play the live events, but it's going to require a commitment to play certain DP World Tour events, right? Instead of, you know, the fine aspect of it, they're basically, I assume, skipping, paying an appearance fee to some of these guys who would probably command a higher than $100,000, whatever the fine amount is. appearance fee we can say all right we can just come have you play here i'm to fight this in court

if you do this and if you go and settle your previous fines like this just seems like a better way uh to do both of these things um and that's one uh the okay so there there was another letter that was sent out uh to players as well uh this past week kind of detail so backing up again i was when you you had alert us before the announcement came out like p is coming back i was like oh shit like this is this is a messy one like if they're just waving him back in that you just came out with returning member program that didn't include pee now he's coming right back the way it is rolled out makes a lot more sense to me to say like all right here's the blueprint now if you resigned your membership and the last from the last date you played a live event like you're suspended a year like

that's essentially what it is that that feels safer to me than like changing the rules they didn't change the rules it just kind of made it clear what the actual process is going to be There was some ambiguity around what the suspension time was actually going to be. That clears that up. They did send in this letter out, they set, gave updates on the disciplinary status of three other members. Kevin Naugh, Pat Perez and Hudson Swofford. Kevin said Kevin Nall last participated in an unauthorized demand on August 24th, 2025. His membership has been reinstated.

However, he is currently facing disciplinary actions for outstanding violations of the regulations. We'll provide more clarity on Kevin's return date. when appropriate. Kevin, we'll let you know, but. I think his violations include overdoing the walk-in of the putts, you know, the backing off the ball at the 2012 players, whatever year that was.

I think those are the violations. Case of play. Was he part of the suit or no? I do not believe any of these guys were part of the suit except for Hudson Swah. Actually, Pat Perez was part of the suit too. So again, continuing that on, Pat Perez reinstated his membership in January, 2026, and is in the process of serving his disciplinary action

for outstanding violations of the regulations. He is currently eligible to return to PGA Tour sanction competition on January 1, 2027. And then the last one, Hudson Swofford, reinstated his membership January 2025 and is in the process of serving his disciplinary action for outstanding violations to the regulations. He is currently eligible to return to PGA TOR sanction competition

January 1, 2027. So Swofford's got a two year. Well, so is it because the guys who, didn't resign before they left like is that the outs is that the extra because he's getting a year from his last you know time turning up on live which is but he had resigned his membership yes so that is unclear other than like hey they made it clear like he wasn't a member and like he's not a member still like he's not one he is a past champion of the pGA tour but he can earn his status back some of these guys, I guess, hadn't, you know, given up their membership when they got suspended.

And upon notification, I'm filling in the blanks here, like, you know, reinstated their membership. And then the process starts on the punishment because they were playing, you know, I don't know if it's fines related to that. Like there's a whole bunch of stuff that might come with the people that did not resign their membership for all we know. Was Hudson Swafford one of the ones that was waiting like across the street in Memphis? Wasn't it? It was Matt Jones, Hudson Swoffer. Was it Taylor Gooch too?

And Taylor Gooch, I think. Yeah. Just going back through this, it's been such a long, wild ride over the last three or four years. Even going back, like, I went through and just looked at all of use golf facts posts on, you know, now, now it was Twitter back in the day. Now it's X the everything app. Um, just, you know, it's possible that, that they fixed the app. And now, now P feels comfortable coming back. I mean, there were, there were accusations from use golf facts that they were

slowing down shot link from upload from from updating for P. Uh, of course. Manipulating his driving distance on shot link and also the app was slow to update. Some for some players. Certain players. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, you know, of course we had the, the, the, the, right pins, you know, hypothesis or conspiracy theory. We had all sorts of different stuff. It was such a roller coaster going back through all of the various accusations leveled at the tour, the course, we got the line drive seats, all of those things. And then you tried to get her out,

man. You tried to lure her out on Wednesday. And I thought you were going to get her. I really, really think it's the whole family i think it's munter lady jay the whole family i think it's like a group a group effort on that account so props to them for their for their discipline and uh you know all of that so i i look forward one day lady jay and i we will share a glass of really really oaky california chardonnay and and just we will break bread that might be people ask us what's the interview you want the most like who you know who do you want to interview you know you know It might be Lady Jay. You and Lady Jay sitting down for a record interview might be what we need.

The golf world. Maybe it's just a world at large needs. I feel like the world needs some healing right now. I feel like that would bring us all a little closer together. And I saw that P, you know, P, I guess bought his wife a house in the Hamptons. That was what she really wanted. So she's got that going for life is good right now for P and Lady J. Reed had some quotes.

This is credit to ESPN, I believe Pall. and Mark Slabaw, I think we're the bylines on this. He said, I love my time on live. I became a different person because of the friendships with players I made. Family is my priority and playing closer to them is what really matters. I can't get days back. He said, I always saw myself coming back to the PGA tour. I know I have to earn my way back.

And I'm okay with that. And again, he continued. After winning, I realized just how much I missed the grind in the dog fight. That's who I am. God. Night night. Just shudder it, man. just it's got to go just shudder the whole thing all right i missed the grunt the tour i played on for the last

four years i missed grinding uh yeah that you could not have said it better that is the perfect way to not disparage live on your way out the door read and give all of us that have been screaming this from the rooftops the perfect satisfaction that we needed that's all we needed it's not a grind out there and a lot of us are fans of golf uh for the grind element of it so again i do not celebrate reeds entire catalog but i am celebrating what's going on currently uh this past week so i i do celebrate his entire catalog uh also what's going to happen to the aces where do they go from here yeah it's kind of just the three aces now uh do they bring up anthony kim so we were supposed to find out something about o wGR this past week allegedly uh again i never know what's true about living what's not but

that was an expectation that this past week and i believe it's now coming this following week I have no idea if this has something to do with P dropping out and like, you know, it's introducing one of the many elements of flaws in the official World Golf ranking application of live golf is who gets his spot now? Do you just bring somebody up? If I really cared about OWGR points and I was Scott O'Neill, I would say, whoever finished fourth at the qualification, you're now up and you qualified for here, hint hint, like, again, I still think they're woefully short on the qualification front,

but you can't just grab somebody and promote them after this and expect to get OWGR points this week. That's kind of the whole deal, man. So do you think that, I think Kazuma, he got summarily kicked off or dismissed from the Korean team? What was Kevin Nossi? No, no, no, no. Genie Chiro, Kazuma. He was on the, what was Kevin Knaz team called?

They were the iron heads now. Iron heads. He was on the iron heads and he got kicked off the iron heads because he's Japanese, not Korean. And which like I legitimately think that that also introduces a 100% like another wrinkle for O'DobGR of all right. Like this guy's nationality wasn't right. So you kicked him out of the entire league even though he wasn't in the drop zone. Did you watch the video I sent through of the like them trying to be like the DP world tour and do a funny orientation video? I did. I did. It was like a racist Otani joke in that video as well. It's just like, oh man. All right. It's got it's got to go away. It's just got to go away. But yeah, I'm anticipating one of two things this week that Liv does not get OWGR points or they get an amount that's so tiny that everyone's going to

going to be even more furious about the whole thing. And I would be even a little bit furious if they got them because it just, again, they're extremely woefully short of the criteria that. And we don't need to do the whole OWGR thing again, like what it actually is, who sets it and what the purpose of it is. But it's like the majors and the major tours saying, you've got to play in events like this if you want points. And Live doesn't have events like that. And they market themselves on events not being like that. So just get ready for a lot of tears this week either way. I think that's virtually the biggest guarantee we have. I had a whole live corner thing. Can we just not? I got like three things. Can I just knock them out here?

And can I do once just to wrap it wrap it up on some player quotes from on the ground about Patrick Reed. JJ Spons that I think people want to be on the PGA tour. It's the best tour in the world, the most competitive tour. I think Patrick will be a good asset to the tour. And I think it just speaks volumes to where the tour is headed. I think to add even more competition for us that have been here while they left. And adding Brooks and Patrick now, it's just strengthening our tour, which I think is great as you're seeing and harris english also continued said as you're seeing kind of the dominoes are starting to fall maybe those guys on the live tour are not happy out there and the grass is not greener on the other side they're seeing the pGA tour getting stronger and having more success and

seeing and kind of seeing that money's not the end-all be-all like that doesn't fulfill them they're still competitors they're competitive people and they love playing in the biggest events against the best players in the world would you like to be odds and swafford like the first guy you You realized years before that you made, oh, shit, I made the wrong choice here. But I'm not positive he did. I mean, he had to have made, if not close to double digit millions of dollars in the process. And like, were you going to make that on the PGA tour? I don't know.

I mean, that level of player, I don't know if it's like the slam dunk that he made a wrong decision. And again, like, we don't know what the equity is worth. They're saying it's worth a lot. We don't, we've not done a great job explaining how it. actually works because to be honest, I'm not like, I would need to dig in deeper to fully understand it. But like, P is not eligible for that through 2030. And I know I don't have Hadeke's comments lined up, but I know Hadeki had some comments about, you know, kind of a little bit bitter about some guys coming back. And I think it, they're not worth zero. The, the equity dollars are not like

a live team valuation. It's not worth negative dollars. It might not be worth like 50 to 85, like they claim for Brooks it might but it also might like it very well could it's going to be worth millions of dollars to people that play well we know that for sure so he not being eligible for that is like a relatively significant punishment and it he probably is going to make out making more money going to live and coming back sure but it might end up being closer than people think um if if the numbers that are shared are to be believe i understand people being skeptical of that sorry you're i mean hadaki could maybe be the most pissed of everybody right they offered him four or five hundred million um you know so uh sally we got to talk about the graphic

i can show you the graphic uh for those that are uh are watching this here fox sports uh tweeted out that live golf is back in one week do you have the full list of all the things that are wrong on my screen this is kind of small well scott o'neal front and center as if he's like some selling point They they spelled Mickelson wrong. They spelled Dustin Johnson's name wrong. There's a few other things in there too. But yeah, just good stuff. They deleted it quickly.

But just fantastic stuff there. Solly the Kleeks followed me on the gram. Their 2026 video is almost out. They post a little teaser. I said, quote, goosebumps. And then they followed me, which is great. I totally missed Harold Varner going from whatever team he was on before to smash G.C. He cited his Jordan brand endorsement as a reason why.

And then Bloomberg is reporting that Liv has hired Citigroup to sell minority stakes in two of its teams this year. They're targeting valuations as high as $300 million. Your reaction to that. Yeah. Sure. Sure think. You could literally just print whatever you want. You could ask, you could, you could target whatever you want.

We're targeting 300 million for our company as well. Yeah, we might be closer than the ironheads are. I think it's fair to say. We have a larger following that I think of every team that's in the Live Golf League on the Everything app, if that's how, you know, what drives money. But last thing we've got, dude, I can't, I can't even do that anymore. It's not, it's not funny anymore. I can't make the jokes about it. We've done it funny.

It is funny, but like I can't. It's so funny. I don't have a new line for that one. Also, it's the season opener this week in Riyadh, Tyga and Acon are headlining. Do we know? Do we know if it's Acon's brother? It could be Acon's brother. We did have a little fun on Wednesday, had to kind of rearrange some of our day to do this.

I hope if you're watching on YouTube and you somehow didn't see this on social. Here's how T. Here's how T. I spent our Wednesday. All we need is a little bit of caffeine and it won't be perfect. Two Trento strawberry refreshers, no water, no inclusions, please. That's it. Thanks, bud.

Thank you. Have a good one. Now we're ready to roll. So stupid. So I was. For filming it. Thank you for editing it. You were like directing it.

You're like, no, you got to slow it down. I think it's side to cup clean on this part. We forgot the grunt. the and i did dub in pat's uh sorry excuse me p's original grunt from the video because we needed to have that i missed that in the moment but we needed to have that how was your first uh trentza strawberry refresher with no water no inclusions uh it was awful it was like we threw them away immediately uh it was it was like cough syrup uh i got some notes from friends saying like they were concerned that i was wearing the backwards upside down

you know, no vows hat. I said, you know, like, just read the hat. It's a joke. And then my mom was confused as to why I was getting like two strawberry refreshers. Like some people didn't understand the reference, which was good too. The references are out of control, bro. I only know one other person, actually two other people that have ever like attempted or tasted a, a strawberry refresher with no water, no inclusions. One of them is our guy, Mr. DJ Puyowski, who is joining us.

from Chile, Florida as well. Hello, pie, man. Hello, guys. Good to be with you. Certifiable, man. Florida cold is bucking its head down here in Orlando. I don't need to tell you guys. Good to see you.

What do you remember about the Trent to Strawberry refresher from Milwaukee? Horrible, awful. Not good. I remember you kind of liking it, though. I don't know if that's kind of, you know, I hope I'm not airing you out, but you're kind of like, oh, are you going to finish that? You know, yeah, I'll have a couple more sips as a joke.

Sure. I did have two sips of the one that TC got for me. And I, uh, I had dumped, I made sure I dumped it and washed my sink out because it was like, it's just going to track all the fruit flies in the world, just dumping 80 grams of sugar. Well, I don't think there's any insects left in the state of Florida after this weekend. I think they're all, they're all toast. I believe. Freddie, uh, my older son, Freddie was like, he saw the video and he was all excited.

He was like, oh, dad, you got no inclusions. Like, I always get no inclusions. Inclusions are gross. Damn, you're so bougie. The no water part is the gross part. Like I literally just drinking the concentrate. Like I mentioned, it is legitimately cold here. I got to give a shout out to this summit fleece pullover.

It's incredible. I don't get to wear it much. And I honestly get like a little bit excited when I do get to wear it and throw it on. This just feels a good DJ Pi. I think you have this exact one, don't you? I do. I have the gray one. Yeah.

You pull it off a lot better than I do. but I absolutely love this. It is feeling very cozy tonight. I got the ready hoodie sitting right here as well. If needed here, if it gets too cold in the house, it is the warmest sweatshirt I've ever worn. Materials incredible, it is thick with two Cs, maybe three Cs, Dennis.

And it has been absolutely critical here in this cold stretch we've had. And in the winter, you're going to see me in the Fulton vest a lot. I keep on the garage. I throw it on for walks in the evening. It's never too hot, never too cold. I can't get enough of their stuff. I wear Roeback stuff. every single day in some way, shape or form.

I looked down the other day on a walk. I had on joggers. I had a t-shirt on. I had a hoodie on over it, and I had a vest on. Like, I'm sure the neighbors were like, who is this dude? Who's that big dog there? It's so subtle, but I do see it. So we appreciate their support, helping us take it out.

If it's time to update your wardrobe, go to rowback.com, R-H-O-B-C-K-com. Use code N-LU at checkout for 20% off your first order through the end of the week. Deid, we brought you in for LPGA stuff, which we're going to get to, but really, we just got, we can't talk about Justin Rose without you being here. I know you didn't get to watch a lot on the men's side this week. Why don't you tell us what you were doing first this week and then your reaction to Team Rose. Yeah, I was there. I was there in spirit. Of course, you know, we're checking after every shot. How's the great man Justin Rose doing out there at the great man venue, Tori Pines? I am in Orlando. I'm in Lake Nona specifically right now. catting at the

at the LPGA event sort of but I'm caddying in the celebrity division caddying for our good buddy Tim Simons who people might know from Veep he played Joan and Ryan on Veep now is on nobody wants this he got a lot of draft day

a lot of like oh shit that's a guy from draft day this week which was fun so he got invited to play it's like a celebrity pro am kind of like Pebble Beach style where the celebrities are playing in the event Urban Meyer was there. A lot of good folks were there. And so Tim asked me if I'd come down in Caddy and it was, you know, 15 below zero in Milwaukee. And I was like, oh, it'd be nice and warm in

Orlando. That sounds great, man. Would love to get down there. And so yeah, spent down, spent this week down here with him, which was great. So I did not get to watch a lot of the farmers. I'm sure you guys have it covered. But please, if I can be an avatar for the audience, I mean, fill me in. Guys, what happened? Was it as good as the numbers make it look. Yeah. It's even better. Justin Rose put up the 23rd best 54 whole score to open up a tournament since 2004. He opened up a six-shot lead heading to the final round.

He was minus 2,500 to win the tournament overnight, like going into the final round. He shot 62, 65, 68. It was never close on Sunday. He shot 70 to win by seven shots over Pearson Cootie. He shot a final round 65. Seawu Kim and Rio Hissot-Soon. Um, he did only tie Rio hits us soon, uh, for the South course title this week. And he did win, uh, the North course title. Um, so I don't know if they did a separate

playoffs. Maybe it may mind on a scorecard play. I'll go check what the number one handicap is, uh, on Tori Pud South. But, uh, yeah, he patted the numbers on the north course and then kind of coasted to the win. I just hate I just don't like seeing our guy win like that TC just didn't just didn't quite sit right. Yeah. He said the tournament 54-hole scoring record, 702-hole scoring record. Granted, it was the most placid conditions we've ever seen at Torrey Pines before. Just the great man.

He's gained speed. He was in complete control. He had back-to-back bogeys on Saturday at one point and then kind of steeled himself, got right back in the mix. And that's what great men do. They turn it around and shot 68 on Saturday. And it was never in question at any point in the last 48 hours. I feel like this is probably a silly question because he won by seven.

But I imagine it's just an all cylinders performance. You know, the Justin Rose game is like it's not like he's bombing it over corners. It's not like he's doing it. Like I imagine it's just like pretty close to perfect golf, right? Hitting it to 15 feet, eight feet a lot and making half the putts. You know what it reminded me of honestly? Like not to make a Kepka, like a Kepka and a major when he's like, got it was just like oh you're i do not need to watch this i know exactly what's going to happen you are

not going to make a mistake there's no suspense in any of this it's just i mean to do this at age four of course i was being facetious off the top for anyone that was uh that was doubting that uh to do this at age 45 and to have this late career renaissance he's having he was a put away from winning the masters last year he's lost masters in two playoffs we might just be we might view we might view his entire career so differently if if a Sergio putt goes differently if a Rory bounce goes differently and uh it's just it's incredible man I'm so impressed it was kind of one of those guys that like if you'd ask me like all right who's more likely to bounce back at a certain like a former world number one more likely to bounce back like Jordan speed Jason day or Justin Rose like Rose

like Rose would have been my third pick as of four years ago however long but would have been a lot of people's pick out of that group and here he is doing it man and I know every time we've done this a lot because he's had so much success, but like every time we do it, it's like all your buddies went to live and just got the paycheck, and you stayed and grinded it out and are reaping the rewards, man. So our hats off to you. That's why he's a great man.

Dege, he was, to your question, he was, uh, 21st off the tea this week. He was second in approach play, 45th around the green intent and putting. So that, he's, he hit, that doesn't include the north course. It does not include when you shot 62 in the north. He hit 59 of 72 greens this week. It's going to be hard to beat. It's, yeah, a lot of things that spring to mind, but I don't know, not to be the guy who like goes to Barcelona and then only talks about Barcelona.

But being at the event this week, like I haven't been at an event definitely for a week long for quite a while. very micro small reminder of oh my god it's a grind to come to a golf tournament and to this was like a joke golf tournament that doesn't even count for anything and to just do that all season long for that many events to fly to that many places to warm up to learn the course to go to the recovery trailer that he's got following around the country to like you know go back to the hotel to meet people at the hotel to do like to do that over and over. and over and over until the age 45 season is mind-blowing, man, to have that much energy and to be able to be one of the best players in the world at that age. I was talking to Tim about it here because we were watching the finish. And he's like, how old is Justin Rose? I'm like, he's like 45 probably, something like that. He's like, so, okay, you guys are kind of talking about Spieth like he's like dead.

He's like, can't Spieth just like do a Justin Rose? I'm like, I don't think it's easy, man. I think it's like, I think you just got to grind your face. off for like a half a decade. I was like maybe. Yeah, he very well might. But like the other thing about Justin Rose that kind of came up is like I don't feel like he's ever had

has he ever had like a wilderness period or has I feel like his floor has just always been really high outside of maybe like the equipment change stuff. I mean at this time last year he was 164th in the day to golf rankings.

Like yeah, it's low. I didn't realize it was that bad. It got you know, I mean, as of June of last year, he was like 146 in the day the golf rankings. Like he, I don't know. It's a weird thing of he has some really good, he has some bad weeks. Like he missed the cut last week at the MX. Like he's not wildly consistent at this age, but like he gets so much out of his good weeks, like a ton out of them. So yeah, his like strokes gain rating is not going to be that strong. It's going to factor in all the golf you played. But like, basically if he'd be a a people would call him a a vanity handicapper uh because his

his top eight out of his 20 rounds are really really good and it's really really he's gonna what do you think his OWGR is going to be when he wakes up tomorrow like fourth nine eight third to me third in the world come on third ODJR number three great man here and he's 47th in day to golf he might be like in the 30s as of tomorrow it's But like that that weighs a really strong finish. Yeah on Fleetwood, right? Dege, your question on, uh, wilderness. I mean, I feel like he cut his wilderness out of the way.

First things first. Yeah. And then he kind of, he kind of went through a little swoon there again in like, 0, 405 and then dropped off again a little bit in 2009. But really for the last. And then, you know, like Sally said, 20, 2020 to 2020. to 2020, like kind of fell off,

you know, just looked like he was aging a little bit. But I mean, really from, hasn't finished a year outside of the top 100 in the OWGR since 2001. That's wild. I guess was kind of the point of my question, I guess, is like he doesn't, he's had some valleys for sure, but I don't know that he's had the,

oh, man, is the music starting to play? And this, you know, this is the sunset of my career. type of moments or or like like oh you know i guess more i guess what i mean is more like my confidence is shattered yeah yeah like am i ever going to get it back i he seems like he's had natural ebbs and flows with injuries and like we said equipment changes and some of those things that are i don't know i was just thinking about you know you see it with a lot of guys that we've talked about all the time j t and spith and max and you know some of these guys that fall off is like

there's more going on there than just aging with at least some of those guys, right? It's swing change stuff, confidence stuff. Little injury stuff. Here and there. Yeah. All of those different things. And I feel like in a weird way, I'm like Rose hasn't, I understand. I'm just looking for a reason for like, why is he still on the grind? And I think without that, yeah, without that crack in the foundation, you know, I understand. It seems like it makes a little more sense to just keep going and going and going.

I get that there, you mentioned all the weeks on the road and all that. I get that there's some overlap between DP World Tour and PJTor starts starts to count towards two like the majors count for both but what do how many PGA tour starts you think Justin Rose has made god a lot uh probably say 480 yeah i was thinking in that neighborhood as well i'll take 500 for fun 447 uh yeah and dp world tour 348 so like combined the two it's almost 800 now again there's a ton of overlap WGCs and all that. It's probably in the 600s, but like, yeah, that's a lot of freaking golfing life. Like just, yeah, the way he does it too. Like, like they talked about it a little bit on the broadcast today. We've talked about it in the past, but just the diligence and the meticulousness

of it where there's, you just don't feel like he's leaving anything to chance or there's, there's no, there's no spillage. There's no waste. Right. There's no. And like, I think the thing I respected the most this week was how resounding he played on the front nine. Like he came out round two after shooting 62 on the north course shot 31 on the front nine at Torrey. And then round three shot 32, round four shot 33. Like he just he was flawless on the front nine and didn't didn't make a bogey on the front nine at Torrey Pines south this week, which like we can get into Torrey Pines, but that's impressive. Like you had to drive the ball in the fair. way this week or you were like that that rough is so thick and it's you know there's there's a lot of

just bad bonkers around there moving down the board uh just a little bit here piercing cooney um had it mentioned sunday 65 get up into t-2 siwu cam rio hits a two hits a soon playing in the final pairing uh birdie the last as well to to uh get a a big tie for second uh joel damon was in the final group as well he finished tied for seventh uh would have loved for him to get a top five in there as well. But, so this was Brooks Keppkis, of course, first start back on the PGA tour since the returning member program, all that. He finished in a tie for 56th. He shot 73, 68, 7370. He was heavily, heavily, heavily featured on the television. Every single one of this past week. What? I think it's an impossible needle to thread here.

I think that they aired on the right side of this thing of like, I could see a world where he comes back and they treat him like he's a normal guy and they don't show him and everybody's up in arms. Like, what the heck? Wasn't this a big deal that this guy came back? I did not know we were going to get Tiger Woods 2006, the three weeks out of the year that he's on the other side of the golf course, not in contention, like that we're going to show like every shot.

It was a lot. I was surprised by that. I know Brooks Keppka is a five-time major winner. He is like the major dude of this generation. He and Rory, Scottie will be there soon. But he was never the PGA tour guy. He won four total PGA tour events. And I was not surprised to see him down.

His game is not in great for him. I was not surprised to see him that far down the board. I was just surprised at how from the jump, they put it on ESPN early this week. The ESPN live coverage was on ESPN. And CBS was obviously very excited that he made the cut. And I was just surprised that it ate up as much television time as it did. Yeah, I was too. It was a lot of, you know, I'm fine with the interviews. He was good with the media all week, very jovial on kind of on Brooks-like almost. But yeah, there were there were a few spots, especially early in the rounds. Like today, they showed him on number three, you know, and the leaders were on 10 or 11. I'm thinking, oh, man, like they bumped the T-box up on three. And that's a really cool setup for that.

cool little front left pin there. Sure. Not like, oh yeah, I forgot the leaders already went through here two hours ago. We're not going to see it on the main broadcast. But, you know, kind of a tough start too with ESPN picked up feature group stuff. And they had that on, you know, Thursday and Friday. First time tour has been on ESPN like the, the flagship ESPN in 20 plus years. And they didn't have any sound. Like they didn't have any ambient sound for the first 30 minutes, hour. And so I don't think that was necessarily putting the best foot forward, but it just felt like,

it felt like the tour tried to go a little bit overboard as far as welcoming Brooks back in. It's like, I feel like, all right, you got them back in. Now, like, maybe celebrated on Thursday, but back to, back to business as usual, I think. Yeah, again, I get, I get the overall, overall sentiment, but it just, just a little too much, a little too much. I think we, with Phoenix, like, he's a past champ there. Like, I, it's going to be a rowdy atmosphere.

I can, I could see, you know, I think he still should garner plenty of attention with the, with the TV broadcast, assuming, I think he's going to play better this coming week, too. I mean, he really just had a horrible putting week. He, I think it was almost dead last in putting in the measured rounds on the South course. The Saturday broadcast did not do many favors showing all the putts from that when he lost five and a half shots to the field, putting on there. But that's POA.

That's, you know, I don't know if this is the best. Brooks kept a golf course out there currently. And I, again, I said this when we said he was coming back. I'm not, I don't have massive expectations for him on the PGA tour schedule. He, again, did not dominate this tour when he played on it and was world number one and was winning all the majors. So I don't think a lot's going to change on that front. But he does, he seems a lot more, he's a lot easier to, this version of Brooks is way easier to root for. You know, it almost, he might even.

be overdoing the, you know, I need to talk to everyone and I need to pay my penance. And I don't, I'm not sure if that's the case, man. I mean, you, you are paying a penalty. You came back. Like, we, everybody's ready to move on and just like play golf again. This isn't like a monumental thing that you played in this event. Just like a good step in getting, getting the band back together and getting golf back to how it should be.

So do you think that they're trying to set an example of for Bryson or for for for ROM? That's interesting. Hey, you know, this week specifically, you're going to get welcome with. with open arms. Hey, if you come back, water's warm over here. We're not going to, we're not going to drag you. In their letter that I mentioned earlier, but that mentioned the disciplinary for the other three players,

like they said, like they're not expecting anyone else to return from that member, the returning member program. So I think they're kind of, I, we said the same thing when they debuted this. We did not think any of the other three would come back. So I don't know. Maybe for Bryson for next year, you know, that you'll get somewhat of a welcome.

but it's interesting but I just don't think that was a realistic I think if rom could get out he would or i have a feeling his from what we've heard his contract is a lot tighter and i don't think bryson's in as much of a hurry so that's an interesting theory though for sure do you guys think brooks wins another major it's a great question uh god i feel like the bad guy if i say no but i i say that purely as a it's really freaking hard to win uh majors so that's kind of a actuary sort of take. I hope he does, genuinely. Same.

I've had a great time watching the Brooks saga the last couple of years. And I'm kind of bummed. I missed it, to be honest. Like, I think I would maybe push back. Not push back because I didn't watch it. I don't want to speak out of turn here. But if I was watching it, I think I would be curious to see more Brooks. And I think there is a lot of casual fans.

And there's a lot of people who aren't watching Thursday, Friday, or even Saturday, you know, who are probably, this is the one, you know, there's kind of one story every week. And especially when a guy's leading by seven, it's, uh, I understand them beating the drum a little bit harder. And that feels at one hand, I was almost tempted to, the old part of my brain, I think was almost like, oh, that's interesting that CBS is kind of going against the tour, you know, the tour probably wants to keep this a little, uh, quiet. And I'm like, no, I think that's the old tour. The old tour would have been like, nothing to see here, nothing to, you know,

business as usual all these guys are the same and now the new tour is i think like yo let's re-edit that promo you know where the where the best players belong or the grave whatever the the slogan is like let's get brooks with the hero shot at the end of that commercial i think the new tour is is leaning in on this stuff so yeah just uh i don't know pretty interesting all the way across the board i think that was a long way of saying no i don't think he's going to live another major i think he's got one more in him i think i think the ball striking can still be there in you know It's fleeting, but he looks fine. Obviously, putter,

putter needs to be better, but I don't know. I just feel like he's a dog and he's got like he's, he's gonna turn up. He's got, how old is he, Sally? 34, 35. I want to say he's 36 now. He is 35 years, eight months. Same exact age as Rory.

No, Roy's a year younger than Rory. He's got to think he's got 20 good ones left in him. He got really close to Augusta a couple times. That was he hasn't done really shit since he won the PGA, right? And that was that's going to be coming up on three years. Uh, his major run. When we talk about speed like it's going to happen. You think speed's going to win another major?

I don't, I don't know who's, who's carried that flag. Like I don't, I don't know about that equivalents. He's gone T17, T64, T45, T26, T-243, cut, cut, T-12 cut in the 10 majors he's played since he won the PGA in 2023. I will without confidence say that I do not think he's going to win another major because I have failed to predict any of the five majors he's won. It becomes apparent like by 1041 a.m. on Friday that he's going to win it when he does. And when it happens, I'll be like, yep, all right, you did it again.

I didn't think he would, I thought he was kind of cooked prior to Oak Hill. And it wasn't going to happen again. And he proved this wrong. And he proved us wrong early in that week. It was like, ah, oh, God. we missed it again, underestimated him again. But I just would be surprised. I just don't know if that magic is still in there.

And again, for every one of these major conversations we have from here on out, we're in a different world now. We are in a Scotty world. All right. And like we're looking at, I think it's not crazy to think that Scotty could win half of the majors over the next two seasons. Right. I mean, if he wins two this year, two next year, like that's,

really, really, really limiting the opportunities that other guys are going to have. And we like to hand them out like candy to a lot of people. So I don't know. I'd be surprised if you want another major. All right. So a couple of what just a couple run down the leaderboard things here from Tori. Jake Knapp, good finish 67. It's Sunni played well.

You know, in the 60s, all four rounds. Good weekend. He's up to ninth. in the Aon swing five. I know you're a big swing five guy. I believe he's up to the ninth in the FedEx Cup. He is fourth in the swing five. He's in the swing five.

Yeah. He's in now. Yeah. What else we got? Stephen Yeager, a good week. Sahith. Signs of Life.

66 today on Sunday. DJ Pi comment. I love it. I hope he wins every time he plays. One of my favorite players. I just don't know if he's good. That's kind of, as I've said about all my favorite players.

He fits the bill. Andrew Novak, 66 today, T7, get him on the team. Joel Damon, 73 today. Kind of a, you know, buckle down the stretch. He had a six shot into 17 today from the bunker. But 300, you know, you love it when, when Joel makes some money. And would he've gotten into Phoenix? The WM next week.

But what he've gotten in with the top 10? Do you get into that, an invitational with the, with the top 10? Oh, that's a good question. You didn't used to. Does that carry over then to the next event? I guess he probably would have gotten in and otherwise. He is, I believe he's sitting like 11th in the Aon Swing 5. So he's going to need a nice week in Phoenix if he wants to get into into Pebble.

So Mav McNeely, solo 10th. Another speed merchant, just like Team Rose. He's picked up a bunch of speed year every year. speaking of speed big tone congrats sally little signs of life from big tone including an ace out there this week comment t-11

here he comes Ryan gerard t-11 continues his his play I love t-c there's nothing better genuinely than when life starts to imitate the art

you know Ryan gerard was not one of the highest players in the world until you know you started speaking that into existence And it just absolutely flipped him. I was, God, I sent, I sent TC the video yesterday, but I was, I was in the bar with a prominent LPGA caddy last night. And out of nowhere, unprompted, he just goes, you know who one of the 10 best players in the

world is? I'm like, no, he's like, Michael Brennan. 100% book it. Michael Brennan. At least when he's not using improv. Remember this conversation. Yeah, I don't know if that was a segue or not, but it made me laugh. I had to get it on video and send it to TC.

And I mean, you got to give it to Tori like the cream rises to the top. Goderup was up there, Thorbjornson, Matsuyama, Sala, we would be remiss if we didn't shout out Seamus Power. The Irish would be all up in our DMs. Cam Young played well, H.E., things of that nature. And that's the, that's the tamest Tory we've seen in years. So, yeah, I don't know. I'm just, I'm tired of fighting the Tory battle, though. Yeah, you know what, T.C., I, I, I,

thought about this we've been we've said so much about tory over the years a lot of it not positive and i really just kind of sat with it and reflected with it this week i was like have we been fair like have we done this right and i watched a lot of golf this week and i enjoyed a lot of the golf this week and i came to the conclusion we haven't been hard enough on tory it's it's it's it's i wish i had more hands i wish i had more hands uh it is so unimaginative it is a tough slog tough watch but it's so pretty i i i still enjoy watching it and i'll still take this tournament and this golf course over amex last week right like there's still at least there's punishment uh but it is just yeah rinse and repeat same conversation every year but it just is so under realized and could be so much better and

it really aggravates me. But it's just funny that they've spent so much money. I know. Over the last 25 years, redoing the golf course. And they haven't done anything to it. Crazy. So why don't we get to your monitoring list?

We have, we have 12 things. I made you, made you limit it to 12 things. We can get through this quickly of just, what's cooking on your burner on the, on the men's side, mostly men's side,

pro golf here you well you you didn't limit me to 12 things I learned myself to 12 things we got to get this under so first all right number one scheduling stuff you're in a lot of chatter about this century uh going to tory and you know farmers is out they sent their chief people officer for the for the interview this week they're they're head of hr which i thought was was super interesting in the booth talking to nance little exit interview for them the hr guy uh Josh carpenter Had something in Sports Business Journal. As Farmers Insurance exits, what's the future for San Diego PGA Tour event?

A lot of smoke that it's going to be Century sponsoring that and coming over from Hawaii. Question for the Wikipedia page. Is it, is the century moving to Torrey Pines? Or this is the farmer, okay. Yeah, this would be the farm. Yeah, this would be the continuation of the, you know, the Shearson Lehman Brothers.

The Andy Williams. Yeah, Andy Williams Invitational, right? You know, same, same host organization. Also, the ProCore tweeted today, or posts on X the Everything app today that they are officially Dunzo.

So no more, no more Napa event. So that's the scheduling stuff. We got a Michael, yeah, scarcity. We got a Michael Brennan DQ. Guys, Sally was, you know, chomping at the bit to throw this indoors. slack today. Guilty until proven innocent from Sully.

You know, Brennan issued a statement. He took to social media to issue a statement. He said, just wanted to clear the air on what happened at the Farmers Insurance Open this week. I started working with a new course data analyst at the beginning of the week in an effort to improve my core strategy. That I feel like that's interesting in that there is no strategy at Tori. All you got to do is not illegally write stuff in your book and you'll be fine.

man. I'll continue the evening before each round he sends the whole locations on greens maps to help plan the approach shots. When looking at the green maps, I sketched a few arrows to help with my plan on approach shots. After completion of my round, I asked him for clarification of a feature on the greens maps. During the clarification, he mentioned that I was not able to transcribe any details on the greens from his diagram into my yardage book. Upon learning this, I reached out to a PGA tour rules official reported my mistake and was subsequently disqualified from the golf tournament. Well, this has been a painful lesson to learn. I'm looking forward to the party in the desert next week at the waste management. Enoch's Open. Let's go. Dej, honest Abe, never told a lie. Chopped on a cherry tree. Chopped out of cherry tree. Yeah. No, I love this. I love this from our

guy, a little chippiness, a little adversity, you know, some haters coming out of the woodwork. But, you know, we're taking it on the chin. We're going to get better from it, T.C. All this leading up to the to major season the season of championships. Amen. That's what he's really going to shine. There's some ingredients of a great man in there. Exactly. So, uh, next up, we're monitoring Ludvig's game.

I did see that. I did watch a lot of golf, but I saw that it's not good right now. Yeah, it wasn't good this week. Uh, I think he's, I think he's just nicked up. And he might, he might lack enough fortitude in his immune system. This is what the second year in a row has gotten sick, either leading in a tour or at Tori. Yeah. And he just played a horrible.

What did he shoot? 78 on the south course, 72 on the north course. Yeah. So not good. It was bad. I watched a lot of it. He was playing with Kepka and the left and Max on on Thursday.

And it was, it was, I'm not, I'm not zero percent worried about Ludwig. I'm not worried, but it's, it's not zero percent monitoring. That's why it's on the monitoring list. Yeah, we're monitoring. I'm not worried, though. I want to give a shout out to the mule exemptions this week that Brooks made possible.

So two extra guys got into the field because the tour is adamant that Brooks is not taking up a spot from someone else. So in order to net up, they're adding, you know, to kind of even the field up, net the field up. So Alonso Griffin got in this week, which I thought was so, so rich because he is the most vociferous. grieved vocal person of the entire mule population on the pga tour that's a yeah again life art a lot of things kind of coming together there they they should have just venmoed james han like 20 grand just because brooks got in the field uh yeah there's a lot of good stuff to come from that one i love that being on the monitoring list uh speak speaking of aggrieved mules uh wesley brian once back in he said quote appreciate

all support recently unfortunately brooks kept coming back to the tour has no bearing on my situation i've reached out and asked for a conversation to potentially uplift my suspension i've been told that no such conversation will be given uh so we have plenty of towels thanks we'll tell you when we're ready for you big guy yeah doesn't seem like the full story i don't know the full story but that just doesn't quite quite seem right uh but we're we're monitoring We're monitoring. There's some fatherhood news this week, guys. The couple of great men and their spouses had children this week.

First of all, Bob McIntyre, big shot Bob. Again, I apologize to him for leaving him off the 10 best players to not win a major. Sixth ranked player in the world right now, by the way. Yeah, yeah. But shout out to Bob and his significant other. And then our very own big Randy. Yeah. Yeah.

Congratulations, Ian Kat on the birth of their daughter, Lillian. So everybody's doing well and the big guy is just, just, you know, thrilled beyond belief. So he says he's already got diapers down. Diapers are not a worry anymore. Do not report that I'm struggling with the diapers. We're fine with the diapers. Seventh, Marco Penge, struggling to get into clubs, town of Jupe. I guess.

I was told I think I think he intimated this that he was a little bit too casual I was told that he showed up to two different clubs for his his interview with other you know president of club or board members just wearing like gym shorts and a in a t-shirt that sounds like something big Randy would do I was gonna say that's another big Randy move yeah gosh that's great that wouldn't let me in it wouldn't let me in I think he kind of made it sound like he thought he could just be a member at any club down there and like didn't need to just broke a big check but like i don't think that's how it works down there in west palm yeah uh what else we got did you guys see the video of rory mocking can't lay that emerged from from the rider cup i'm not i didn't confirm that that wasn't a i don't think it was either but yeah the can't like doing the shuffle at the rider cup and rory kind of imitating him doing the shovel back and forth that made me laugh i thought that was good tc has i believe two strikes at this department already with regards to AI videos. You know, the Dr. Penis thing on the trapdrawn.

I think maybe one other one. So tread lightly, TC. Yeah. Well, careful bunting with two strikes. Ninth, uh, PGA tour on ESPN Thursday, Friday. I just thought I wanted to call this out one more time because I think this is foreshadowing on, uh, roll-app's strategy of, hey, we're going to try to get like play offense, far as media rights go, we are going to get out in front of this thing.

We're going to try to get on as many televisions, get as many eyeballs as possible. Versant seems like it's a bad, bad deal. They're going nowhere fast as far as the holding company for golf channel and all that sort of stuff. But very fascinating to see what Rolap does here. And then just what he does generally speaking on the media side, because I think there's a whole hell of a lot of stuff as far as behind this. scenes content, you know, hard knocks style stuff that, that, you know, can, can be treated like full, like full swing is just not it, right? And I know they've made a big, you know, a big deal out of all

that, but I think there's so much more like neat. Real stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Not a, not a, not like a fake documentary, like make a real, real content. I was saying about this DC when I, that's that today, like, legitimately can be hard for me to change the channel during the course of the day. I'm watching the golf and there's just a lot going on. I had to start it on ESPN Live, ESPN Plus, then over to golf channel, then over to CBS, in multiple sections of the house trying to keep up with everybody. And it reminded me of this tweet. I'm picturing myself as Rolap and it reminded me of this tweet, which is one of my favorite tweets of all time,

which is just, it says in quotes, like, burglar, wait, burglar gently waking me. Like, yo, you live like this? I was picturing that with Rolap of like, whoa, this is how you guys. do it what like college basketball runs long for 20 minutes and we just don't go on cbs until like what you guys live like this like uh there was six minutes left six minutes left in the basketball game on saturday not figured that out it happens every crazy Utah state and san diego state it's crazy every time uh look i got three more ross alchima neacopa i called it ross alca mai I think that's my fault.

I think that's how I've always pronounced it. I'll own that one, T.C. I want to shout out the Ridler down in Augustine National or up at Augusta National for putting in a drive chip and put pace of play bonus. You get bonus points if you do it in a certain amount of time on the greens. So I love that. I know he was not happy with the pace of play last year, some of the aim pointing, some of these kids getting bad habits. Fixing it. Ridler, you keep this up and you're gonna you're gonna flip me on drive ship and putt.

You just got to get rid of that 14, 15 year old division. All right. I gotta say, I hope Tiam Long Guang does not get penalized for this one. Yeah. And then I just want to shout out the financial times piece on the line. Oh, man. I said it to Dege. I said it to Sally.

I would seek it out wherever, you know, however you can, as far as financial times goes. But I felt like I was at once reading a Dave Eggers. novel and also reading basically this parallel story of maybe foreshadowing what's going to happen to live here of like oh yeah we pulled out this whole thing because the consultants told us to do it you know check it out it was totally unfeasible check it out we were off on the estimated cost by 2.9 trillion dollars we thought it was going to be 1.5 trillion and it's going to be like 4.4 or whatever that like almost $3 trillion. Like, oh my God. It was an incredible read. Thank you for sending. Yeah.

And this was from November. Read it briefly back in November, but came back to it. It was just, I mean, like all this stuff about like they didn't consider that like when people, people were going to take the train from one end of it to the other from their, their place to the airport that they couldn't bring bags on it or that they didn't calculate it all the trade times. calculating that the trade would never have to stop so it could get from one side of the line to the other like 20 minutes but like that's if it made no stops it just is uh it rules man there's 50 different things that i could point to from from that the birds just flying into like a thousand mile long mirror essentially uh all the things around it that are just going to get fried by it's just it's uh it rules financial times neome i just i can't recommend it was from November, November 6th, Allison Killing, and then it was just an unbelievable, like,

visual investigation as well. There's all sorts of various graphics and stuff, too. So, yeah, that was, that was just a thrill. But, but like, looking at it, it was like, oh, yeah, like they're, they're kind of dialing back on all this stuff because the price of oil is continuing to stay so low. I wonder what else they'll scale back on, right? Yeah. You'd have to cut a lot of live golfs to make up for that 2.9 trillion deficit on the line. but, yeah, yeah, Kepkin P made that a little bit cheaper for them. A-on Swing-5 update. Pearson Cootty is, holds the top spot.

Matt McCarty is second. Patrick Rogers, Rio hits us soon, and Andrew Putnam. We got Sahif, Jake Knapp, Houtong Lee, Stephen Yeager, S.H. Kim and Joel Damon are the first six out of there. So a lot of that still up in the air here for waste management. Zander Shoffley missed cut. He's got dad back, totally excused absence there, but we can rest in peace. to his miss, you know, made cut streak. Max Grazeman shot 6478,

almost had full Camilo, if it wasn't for Justin Rose, having that first round lead. And then Brendan Valdez was announced that he has a cancer diagnosis. He's going to be sidelined from the Corn Ferry Tour for some time. So sending our thoughts out to Brendan.

I think second in PGA Tour, you a couple years ago. And yeah, I think Corn Ferry Tour going down to Columbia this week. That's always a fun one to track. Kind of a dual, dual course set up. One of them's crazy short, and they're both at altitude and stuff. And then they go to Jockey Club towards the end of the month here.

Stoke for that. I have a question for you guys. I'm going to bring this courtesy of our friends at SoFi, the ultimate finance app for sponsoring today's SoFi. Get Your Money Right Moment. You can go to SoFi.com slash NLU to learn more about how you can get your money right with SoFi. Plus, I'm going to tease a future podcast episode that we're going to do. I'm going to ask you guys a question that I asked, I asked a journeyman,

a PGA tour player, long time PGA tour player, now retired. I asked him this question, because you know you couldn't go to like PGA tour players' web bios, see their career earnings. We'd love to play the career earnings game. I asked him, what, how much money would you have had to make on course, that number, made money on course to be able to retire full, like to be done. when you're done playing, I'm retired fully. I don't need to make any more money.

What do you think a journeyman's answer to that question would be? Is that question makes sense? Is that a current journeyman or somebody who played during the time when clothing and endorsement deals were higher? So somebody who was like in their mid-40s right now and is done playing. He said, if I would have made blank on the course, I think I would be totally fine and never have to work again. Let's say 12 million.

Yeah. She pay caddies, taxes, expenses, all that stuff. Ted was the first number that popped into my head. He said 20. And he ran through the expenses. He ran through blah, blah, blah. And he basically made it. He, he, I don't want to spoil too much of that future episode, but I would have thought that number is somewhere close to what you guys are saying. But when he, when he broke it all down and, you know, think of tax, think of blah, blah, blah, think of all this. And, and, you know, don't, you know, don't. have status one single year what that might do and all of that and and at home expenses what they look like i would have need to have made a lot more money than i made to be retired fully completely and like his pension would been a lot stronger if that was the case as well but um because you think about

a lot of the guys that leave the tour like you do some kind of work after that as well you know you do some media stuff or play and stuff and i just found that answer quite interesting that's we're going to have a big dive into this into the future uh and i want to give thanks to our friends at sofi the all-and-one up for sponsoring to get your money right segment go to sofi.com slash nl you to learn more about how you can get your money right with so five plus so yeah i think some of that is is like which did you make your 12 million back in the early 2000s or you make your 12 million from 2016 to 2021 kind of thing too yeah i agree so uh we we didn't on the tp world p almost won again this week by the way uh he shot a final round 67 to get into a playoff with callum hill and fred

shot over in Bahrain. Pete wouldn't make a bogey on the first playoff hole and be eliminated. Then on the second playoff hole, I felt bad for Calam Hill. He was leading most of the week. Had a two-shot lead going into the final round. He didn't want out of bounds onto the range left. Reteed,

hit one into the rough, and then shanked it across the water, hits the video board that was playing him on the screen, hitting the shank as it hit the video board and went to the water. This playoff ended with a concession. I don't know have ever seen that like he just like conceded the playoff i'm sure the dp world tour officials were like

did not want to see that but uh freddie shot the german he won his first d p world tour title you know the end of the week ranked 436 uh in the world uh so that was shot great flow yeah uh you know promising promising german he looks very uh very much looks the part and people people say he's got a He's got a pretty high, high ceiling. Cool, cool trophy, too. Some sort of ancient ship as well. They're going to, they're going to Cotter this week, which I don't know if I'd want to be hanging out in Cotter with just everything going on in the Middle East right now. Let's get to the main event, if we can call it that today.

Where do you guys want to start with what happened on the LPGA tour this past week? Maybe Dege, can you, it makes sense to start? Do you want to like set the scene for the situation that unfolded here today that had a lot of people up in arms, including ourselves? Sure. So season opening event, as I mentioned, the Hilton Grand Vacations tournament of champions. The big flask invitational. Formerly the big flask invitational. And yeah, basically entered, I was going to say entered today with Nellie Korda leading, but that's a wrinkle.

because the second or the third round hadn't technically finished yet. There were still, I believe, eight players on the golf course. As a small field, 37 players or something in the field, the pro am, like we mentioned, that's going to be relevant here shortly as well. And weather turned absolutely biblical yesterday. It was very, very nasty. Starting, I mean, it was nasty all day. We can talk about Nellie's 64 that T.

T.C. was belittling on Slack. It was a great 64 TC. It was my lasting memory of this week, I think, is going to be looking up at that scoreboard as, you know, Big T's just, just searching for any kind of signs of life and our, our playing partners are holding on for dear life. And seeing Nelly quarter at 14 under par,

just being like, dude, that's physically impossible that anybody could be at that score right now. That 64 is fucking insane that she shot yesterday. But yeah, we got to a point where they had to stop play yesterday during the during the third round, basically because they waited really long. They waited a long time. There were a lot of players that had to stay out on the golf course. They were desperately trying to get that third round in because they knew there was a cold snap coming and that there was a chance. People were already talking about this on Wednesday, Tuesday, Wednesday, like, you know, oh my God, it's going to be so cold on Sunday.

This thing might get wiped out. I think 54 holes was in the back of people's minds kind of all week. And so I think they were pushing really hard trying to get that third round done. But the wind was straight out of the west, which meant that 17, the par three over the water was just playing dead into the teeth of the wind. Lots of balls like, you know, all of a sudden you had putts that weren't staying on the green. It turned into kind of silly, silly golf in the afternoon. Very fun to watch golf. but unfortunately probably not the competitive integrity that the LPGA was looking for.

So they stopped play, kind of rejiggered things for Sunday, decided that the amateurs were going to go out starting around whatever, 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock, something like that, but that they were only going to play nine holes. And then the LPGA event, the final round or the third round was going to continue and then the final round would start shortly after at a time where the course was deemed suitable for play. that never really happened, apparently, because they shorted the event to 54 holes while still having those eight players finish up round three to make an official 54-hole event, which means that Nellie Korda. Even though by their standards, the course was unplayable. They still made those eight players go out. Correct.

And we will get to that in a second. But the headline, I think, is Nelly Korda off the Schneide after not winning last year is your season opening champion. in a quite controversial manner, I think. It was a fun day to be on the ground and just talking to people. There were a lot of people that were not happy with this decision. I think there were a lot of players that were very happy that they didn't have to go out straight up. I mean, I think if we're starting on that side, there's, you know, the strongest case for not going out was, oh, my, like, the ground is too hard. Somebody might get hurt.

this, you know, conditions are just simply too cold. This isn't an accurate reflection of what this golf tournament is supposed to be. I think if you talk to other people, tournament organizers that I talk to off the record, you talk to other people kind of involved with the tournament off the record. I think there were a lot of people who are like, this is absolutely playable. Anika Sorenstam is playing in the Celebrity Division. She walked off the golf course and gave a bunch of quotes to Beth Ann about how it's totally playable. there's pitch marks out there the ball is stopping uh i watched you know when they did restart play i watched

amy yang step up and hit it to like 15 feet on 17 not saying that 17 was not playing incredibly difficult it was and that was the one unplayable hole that they said like hey like talking to various people they were like like 17 of them are good 17 green is it was brutal it was really really really really hard uh but it was i mean it was possible it's it's not you know it was not it was not impossible today. And the amateurs that played, like the, so the amateurs went out and played nine holes and a lot of talked. I talked to a lot of them that played today. And they're like, not really my place, but you know, it's, yeah, you could, you know, I mean, John Smoltz and Marty Fish, both Bertie the 18th at like 10 a.m. 11 a.m. when they went back out and it was 30 degrees

out there. It was like, it was, it was playable by a lot of people's estimation and they chose not to play the golf tournament, which is, I think we can get into kind of some of the various, you know, machinations here or the various elements that go into it. But I think the long and short of it is for people like Lydia Coe and people like Lottie Wode and Amy Yang and people that were up at the top of that leaderboard who were bawling out and hanging on for dear life late, late, late into the day on Saturday to fight their way up to that leaderboard just to have a chance to go win a freaking golf tournament on Sunday, kind of had that chance taken away from them. Essentially would be the very pessimistic way to look at it.

And so it sucks, man, because it was like, it was a really cool week, very cool leaderboard, obviously with the small field. I was really looking forward to going and watching Nellie Korda try to hang on and seeing what she could do in nasty conditions, how she would back up that 64. And we didn't get a chance to see that. So, yeah, just kind of sucky, man, all the way around. And I think the controversial part of it, like the really, like the really part that you can't really wrap your head around is how you, you say out of one side of your mouth that this is dangerous and players might get hurt. And this isn't real golf.

And then you also put eight players back out on the golf course to go finish the golf tournament. I mean, how are you not? If it was lightning and they said this tournament is like, it's two. dangerous for players to be out there. You don't send eight players out there to go be like, well, those guys aren't going to get hit by lightning. It'll be fine. And so either it's playable or it's not. And I don't know, man. It's, well, the cascade of that though is, all right, there's, by midday, whenever they went out, it's like, all right, it's good enough now that we can get eight players through. The problem now would be if we sent everybody back out for round four,

we wouldn't get it in today. We'd have to bring everybody back tomorrow for more golf on a Monday is like that that has to be part of another event for two weeks i'm i'm with you there but i think it's not like i think that you know if the entire field needed to finish nine holes this afternoon that could have been done versus like finishing round three and sending everybody back out by the time they'd gotten to that point they weren't going to finish it today so that had that played a a factor in you don't think they yeah for sure you're you're totally right. I'm not saying that that was the right call, but that had to be part of it.

It's like bad process led to a bad result. Yes. Well, it could have gotten ahead of it on Friday. There's like 37 players in the field. Right? It's like, we're not talking about 156 player field here where there's two waves and two T's. It's like it's like the fucking Thursday game

out there, man. Like you can't get you can't get nine holes in today and nine holes in tomorrow to crown like a Friday blue man. Yeah. to crown like an actual champion and it's i don't know it's uh i'm happy like it's it's just a weird one right where i'm like i'm happy for nelly corda like it she played a great round of golf yesterday and it's it's cool to have her win the first event of the season and it's you know maybe a little bit of of juice for the game but it's like ah god it feels a little it's just a little hard to swallow

i think when it's uh you have kind of the the poster child for the tour like uh uh up there during a time like this. It's just hard not to be, it's hard not to be a little skeptical, even though you know, you have all the faith in the world and the people like making the decisions. It's just a, it's just a tough one all the way, all the way around. Well, a few things. So LPGA comms post like first thing Sunday morning.

They're like, hey, no frost overnight. Course looks good. Course looks good. I feel good. Let's rock. Yeah. You know, so, so you got that. We're going to, we're going to go out on schedule here.

I'm assuming the players complained. A bunch of players, you know, go out to, to the driving range. They, we can't get our T's in the ground or, you know, the ball, like the ball's bouncing because the greens are frozen, that sort of thing. So then LPGA retweets at 951 that they were, they were reevaluating it. started a series of cascading delays before they eventually canceled at 1240. None of this is on their website, by the way. Like, it's all, it's all just posts from like LPGA comms. And then LPGA finally reposted them.

In the meantime, Anika gets on TV and just pours gasoline all over everything, which is so sick. Which was great. You've got a new commissioner who, I assume, like he's trying to get off on the right foot here and not lose the locker room early after the last commissioner lost the locker. We got a player run organization with, you know, a lot of like a lot of players that like, or just like to be challenged, right? They don't like and, and then it's just, it's just not a good recipe. And then you've got, you know, props to Amy Rogers for for like on golf channel for going on press the LPGA tour officials and said, hey, like what what constitutes playable and

unplayable what are we looking for here how can we like does something need to happen to get the players back on the course and they didn't give her really any details or any specificity they said it's it's not the optimal playing environment well you know what guess what it's a fucking outdoor sport all right it's golf everybody's playing the same course you figure out how to get the ball in a hole right doesn't matter what it looks like like i was stoked to watch today i tweeted yesterday afternoon like man tomorrow's going to be awesome and i've played a lot of a lot of junior golf tournaments or, you know, like a lot of people play a lot of golf tournaments in adverse conditions, bad weather, all of that stuff. Like, I just don't think that there's that much risk of

hurting yourself hitting out of a shaded area when it's, say, 37 degrees outside. Like, you're, you're an athlete. Do you got to be an athlete? And, and then Ricky Lasky going into the booth after the fact and saying, you know what, all these, these CME points, it's all about the cme points and you know what we just can't can't take that for granted well you just did you just sent eight plout like eight players out they all lost spots based on where they would have been when they when they like before they went back out to finish their round like the whole thing meanwhile you got the celebrities out there playing the golf course the whole thing is just fucking laughable like it's it's so unserious it like it's just it makes me

furious at the LPGA tour of just what an own goal and a series of like cascading poor decisions this was from for the last 72 hours it's tough man and it's uh it feels a little bit like a redux of the old pebble beach conversations right of like dude on the ground it's it's really cool you know but i get that the tv has lost the plot i think there's a little bit of that with this event. And again, I'm probably just sensitive to it because I had a really fun week with Tim and we're at a lot of events and there's, you know, you get like the full spectrum of a golf tournament. I've got to meet him. Yeah, he's great. You get the whole, the whole spectrum of like a golf tournament's not just a golf tournament, right? It's it's also hosting all of these people and all these other events and concerts and all of this shit that goes into this week. And, you know, to talk to a number of. of people behind the scenes again who are like man we wanted to we wanted to keep it going uh is is tough for like people who fund an event like this and a like an outside the box kickoff for the LPGA because i do think that having been here the the this whole week like i do think that this

is a cool model for kicking off the season like there's a lot of there's a lot of people out here and there's a lot of people who are here to see the celebrities straight up, right? Like a lot of the walking inside the ropes and stuff, like there's a lot of people that are stopping the celebrities more than stopping the players in some instances. And I'm like, if that's great, man, if that gets people out to the first event of the season, and then you can still put on a great TV product where theoretically you're supposed to have, you know,

whoever it was going to end up being, like some combination of Nelly Wode and Lydia Coe and Nassahataoka and Amy Yang And all these people, like, in these last couple groups, I'm like, that's a true, like, one plus one equals three, I think. Yeah. Right. But it's when it gets kind of jumbled up into this blender and turned into kind of just a side show is where it's like, it's just really hard to defend. It's, it, yeah, it got pretty bleak this afternoon. Why not play tomorrow?

I mean, I'm sure it's just a money thing. Because, like, it's, the high tomorrow is 53 degrees in Orlando. I know. And sunny. Yeah. Well, that's Florida cloud in the sky. Florida cold. So there's there's that. Yeah, I don't I don't get it. And that's where again, it's like, I'm sure. Do you think Nellie being in the lead factored into this they could get? I fucking hope not. Man, like that's so shitty if it did. Like that's awful if it did. That is not like a competitive league. If that's the case. I'm not saying that it was. That's where I keep going back to like, gosh, it's hard not to. No factor. And then Dege, like you're saying like, all right, maybe this is a spark to the season.

It's not because we're not going to see Nellie again until the end of March. She's skipping the entire Asia swing for the, I don't know, fifth or sixth year in a row. And we don't have another event in the United States until the Founders Cup March 19th through 22nd. So, like this whole thing just feels like this extraneous domestic tournament, January 29th. to February 1st and then they go to Asia for three events and there's not another tournament state side for until March 19th. So just like I don't think that's fair to the players either to ramp up your game. Take you know for for one week take take two weeks off and then go to Thailand. Yeah. You know. Yeah. And I get that this is kind of a get me over a year with the schedule and all

of that. But man, it's just I just it just sucks when it's like you're pounding the table for like, hey, take the LPGA tour seriously. The LPGA tour has got good stuff going on. This is good stuff. And then they do something like this. And it's like, man, like, how are people supposed to take you seriously? It's a joke. It's hard, man.

And what really bums, like, I'm genuinely bummed out because I have, you know, so many pages of notes of just awesome stuff that's happened all week. I had a great time being down here all week. Every player that we hung out with was fantastic. everybody that was organizing the tournament was great. Largely the weather was fine until, you know, yesterday afternoon and today. The golf course is cool. It's a good test.

Like, it's got a ton going for it. And I was like genuinely buzzing to come on and talk about it. And actually, Tim and I were going to have a Nest for Nest members. We're going to have a Nest podcast just breaking down the whole week, which is what we're going to talk about on this podcast tonight. But instead, like, we're kind of stuck talking about this stuff, which is much more pertinent. and much less fun. And it stinks because up until, yeah, this morning, I'm like, man, I just, every time I come to one of these events, I end up liking golf more than I did before I got here.

You know, I genuinely love it. And it is, it can be such a good product. And they have so much going for them. It's just, it's hard when shit like this happens. And it just is kind of a, it feels like they're, they're stepping on rakes. And when Riggilowski says, it was changing the trajectory. of their shots as they were practicing. The balls were releasing when they weren't supposed to be.

Welcome to the party, Pat. Outdoor sport. What are we doing? You need to embrace that aspect. Like, that is part of the problem of how you've set up golf courses and you set up all your tournaments. Oh. Yeah.

I think it from reading the tea leaves, it sounds like the players, like the players had a lot of. sway in this, it seems like, in terms of their voicing their opinion, their fear of getting hurt and the conditions and all of that seems to have been maybe overreacted to by the actual tour. Yeah. Which again, again, I would so buy that and I'm not here to tell somebody like how to feel or what you should be worried about or not worried about. But my point is like, man, just from a logic standpoint, if that's the case, then like go back to, then make it a 36 whole tournament. How do you send other players back out?

How do you send Lydia Coe back out to, hey, go play 18. You probably won't get hurt. Like, I don't get how. That's so weird to me that that is just feels very incongruous to, to speak out of both sides of your mouth. I also never heard of anybody just getting hurt hitting the ground with a club. Like hitting a golf shot. I don't know. I've never heard of that.

So, you know, shout out to our buddy. Hashtag Chad Coleman. He starts this, starts this new game. with the LPGA tour on this coming Tuesday. Well, I'll spin it. I'll spin it to optimism that again, just being here all week, I'm like, there is good stuff to work with, man. There really is.

It's really awesome being out here. And I had a genuinely great time. It's just, yeah, stuff like this kind of leaves a bad taste of them out. They had to send out a second statement later in the afternoon. It's never good. You have two statements. It was so bad. Yeah, one.

And again, like my, my, my frustration and just anger here is a result of the same thing to each of like feeling like hey i've got some skin in the game here and i've pounded on the table for the l pga tour and like love watching it love covering it and trying to get more people into it and then they just can't help shoot themselves in both feet at every possible on a day one of their days they were going to be on network television that's the not against football you could have played On golf on 10th. Team Rose.

Team Rose is running away from it. I know, man. It stinks. It stinks. It's so frustrating. Only last thing I would say, and I hope I'm not beating a dead horse at this point. But when you do kind of turn all the lights to women's golf and you do focus on like, I'm really pumped to watch this Sunday.

One of the storylines that's always in the back of my head is like, man, Nellie, is she a dog? Is she going to go out and get one in cold weather? Is she going to go? like back it up she played with the round of her life yesterday is she gonna like she have another one in nasty windy gnarly conditions can she flight it down could she like it's the same thing i would say about scotty right is if oh my god i would want to do nothing more than watch scottie try to go win in gnarly conditions and that's the it's just really hard to it's just sucks to yeah it sucks to be deprived of that i guess uh because i i think it's not it's not a liability man like

it shouldn't be viewed as the liability of, oh man, this is such a bad product for putting out there. It's like, no, it should be like a massive positive. Like, this was going to be thrilling to watch. I get the sense that if they had, if they were woke up tomorrow and had this whole situation to do all over again, just pretend it was Sunday morning tomorrow.

And they had all, you know, they would do things differently. And they think they know that this did not play out in the proper way. They wouldn't send out the frost. No frost. We're playing. I didn't mean to make that joke on Groundhog Day. either tomorrow as well but dege not only that Nellie getting chased by brook and lydia and Lottie

into a lot of you kind of wrecked her rig coming in like that with some potential for some volatility that's the best part and some amateurs showing out like showing showing out there how hard it is yeah yeah hitting really terrible shots of like no these conditions are insane and like truly great shots like not not all the my guy listen my guy did left plenty out there but dude some of those guys take it very seriously and and hit very serious golf shots uh which is which is wild uh i don't know that's not going to come through on the tv but uh there's there's some serious game in some of those guys somebody said that marty fish and and nelly both had to lift the same trophy they didn't have a separate trophy for uh for the

celeb division and the uh in the l pga division uh i missed i missed the trophy we were not invited the trophy ceremony Hey, praise progress in that, wasn't this the tournament in years past where they didn't group it correctly? Are they like the grouping is coming down the stretch? The winner coming out of the not last group because the celebrity was the last group. I think they've had to change the celebrity kind of set up quite a few times over the years. But yeah, it's, I don't know. Again, it's far from perfect, but I see what they're going for for sure. And I think there's a lot of good in this event.

Big Flask's vision. Last LPGA note, Nellie had some quotes about the women's TGL league, quotes to golf weeks. She said, I've mixed feelings on it if I'm being very honest. And I'm surprised no other girls have or no one's really spoken out about it. I think it's a huge and unbelievable miss that we're not playing alongside the men. There's no greater way to grow the game. And it would have been the first time, I think, that men and women are on the same playing field,

playing for the same exact amount of money. But I also think it's great that we are getting this opportunity. so that's my mixed feelings big fucky out of nellie for saying that and for the the sentiment of that statement of that statement as well so that's uh yeah that is a good one so on that note with tgl any any prediction for the week you got atlanta jupe this week now we're playing for draft position really at this point um you know yeah yeah i don't know maybe i i'll hear my reds my reds just spent 15 million dollars on ayuhano s like maybe my other team will start you know flip around and spend a little bit of money, get things involved.

Or maybe we'll keep rolling out a retired broadcaster on our team. I don't know, but I don't feel great about the direction of juplinks. And so I don't feel about it's going to sign Candelario. I, uh, Boston beat the hell out of the bay last week. Yeah, it was ugly. Candelari went one for 14 and cost the Toros, uh, the championship down in Dominican as well. But, uh, that's going to pretty much do it for this week. We got to pretty much do it for this week. We got waste management on the PGA tour, Liv Riad, Qatar, Masters,

Astara Golf Championship in Columbia and the Corn Fairy Tour, LPJ Tour is off, as mentioned. Not this week, but next week. We're going to be live at the AT&T, Pebble Beach Program, doing our live show from the range on Wednesday, like we had the last couple of years. We're also going to be doing a little watch-along when the telecast comes on Thursday afternoon.

We have some really fun stuff planned for next week and always look forward to that. And we got some video stuff coming out in relation to this as well. LTC took a little special trip. We won't tease too much of that just yet. But a lot of stuff coming out around AT&T, and we're going to be out at Pebble starting this coming someday. And we'll be doing an in-person recording during the Super Bowl

after the Wasteman in Phoenix Open this coming weekend. And if you have not, please, please, please. You guys were involved in this trip. I was not. So let me brag on you for a little bit. Please check out the Nebraska film on our YouTube channel, brought to my friends at Yeti. I think it's up there with some of the best and most beautiful stuff.

we've ever done, probably at minimum tied for first with something else that I can't name right now of the worst fomo I've had watching a video series that we've ever done. It's just awesome, just that made me want to go to Nebraska immediately. And so please, please check that out. A lot of you, we've got a lot of great feedback on that one. And just want to make sure nobody missed that one because that was a special one. So I would say shout out to Jake Trego as well. A lot of people asking in the comments and texts and all over the place. What was that? What was that song at the end of the Nebraska film that was written by our guy, Jake

Trego from the year of the Buffalo? Just a one-off commission. We've never really done that before. And so Jake and I had a fun time kind of putting something together for that. And yeah, it turned out fucking awesome. It's like I have listened to it a thousand times since he sent it to me. It's really, really great. So, yeah.

Cool. Well, Dege, thanks for joining us. We kept you for longer than we said we would, but that's how we do things on the, oh, great to be here. Good to chop it up. So shout to our friends at Titleist, Roeback and SoFi. Thanks, everyone, for tune in. We'll see you back here next week.

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