No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1120: Collin wins at Pebble, AK triumphs in Adelaide, and Charley Hull moves to world No. 3

Episode Date: February 16, 2026

Collin Morikawa wins at Pebble, AK is BACK with a big win in Adelaide, and Charley Hull comes from way back to win the PIF Ladies International. Join us as we break down the results across the world of golf, dig into our week at Pebble, run down the leaderboard, news and notes, and more! Presented by Titleist. Support our sponsors: FootJoy - and the new ProSL High Noon - Sun's Up! AT&T - Connecting Changes Everything SoFi - Get Your Money Right at SoFi.com/NLU Looking to travel this year, check out East Sands Golf Co.: https://www.eastsandsgolf.co/nlu Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club today. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up Live show presented by titleist. Sali here, joined by my guys. Most of us back.

He's back home. Mr. Neil Schuster. Hello, Neil. Greetings, Sallie. Good to be here. Try out some new tech tonight. I like the way the graphics package looks on the intro. Cody, good stuff. And calling his fresh off the golf course. He spent the day out at Pebble Beach.

I was course there all week long as well. Mr. DJ Paihouski. Hello, pie, man. How are you? Hey, guys, good to be with you. Yeah, a great day walking around Pebble, watching some golf. Loving it, man. Loving it. Can't wait to talk about it. We, of course, have a ton to discuss tonight. We're going to start out at Pebble. I promise all you new listeners out that promise you we've carved out plenty of time as well to talk about anthony kims absolutely stunning remarkable unbelievable victory at live adelaide uh we're going to talk a little bit about our week uh on site as well in monterey i'm getting word the tc may pop in as well

maybe go down the leaderboard a little bit and i i don't want to make any promises but there might also be a new fedora five uh and i might have already received word that that AK might be in the new Fodora 5. I cannot promise that. Again, that is just, it's a rumor. That's the rumor going around town right now. Stick with us. More to come. Winners from around the world. Colin Moracawa wins the AT&T, Pelt Beach Proem. As mentioned, Anthony Kim wins live Adelaide.

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That was true theater today. I mean, we'll get to Scotty. That was electric. And, you know, wiffs of Tiger dominance didn't get a. done obviously coming back from was it seven or eight back i i i can't remember the where he started but uh that that warmed that kind of warmed me up i watched like start to finish today but the the bridgman situation the blowbyes in the ocean and i mean mark how it took the club put it back three separate times took a little walk over and just kind of made room for wildeege looking

out at the Pacific. I was really impressed when he, when he hit that four iron and then, you know, refused to chip it. That was, that was a, it was a great finish. It was just like kind of, you know, shout out Kyle Porter like normal sports stuff. Like, yeah, we're just like, we don't know. He's going to go back and drop it by the bunker. So that was, that was the best finish of the year for me. I loved it. Yeah, I, I'm with you, Neil. My, my hotel Wi-Fi might be a little spotty, so bear with me if I start to lag here, guys. But the, uh, The the whole scene this week, I remember standing on the eighth fairway a couple times or really like down by the ninth green. I remember vividly watching Akshay Putt yesterday and just barrels of waves are just breaking behind them.

I'm like, man, this is a crazy spot for a pro sporting event when you really get down and think about it. That's kind of how I felt when the Bridgman stuff started to to unravel a little bit on 182. Just like, wow, this is true normal sports stuff. and everybody standing around the green. Like nobody really, I think a lot of people missed the shot that he hit over in the left. And then he just disappeared his bag. It's kind of sitting up by the cliff. And Jake Knapp and Hadeki, I think, were the other two guys playing with him,

are just standing by the green. And there were some very, very pissy spectators, volunteers. Like, what are these two doing? What are they waiting for? You know, while Bridgman's just, you know, his life's flashing before his eyes down there the green. Oh, my God, I've got to go back to the spot. I was just that.

I'm sure all he wants. is just to get the hell out of there. Just like, please let me get out of the way, but there's so much money on the line, points on the line, et cetera. God, and then he gets to the green and his ball won't stay still. Oh, my God. Yeah, on top of all that, he kicking his ball to stop. It was electric stuff.

All of that to bury the lead probably on Colin Morcao going out and grabbing his first win in however long, 60-some events. The shot he hit into 16 was awesome after laying way, way, way back off the tea. Appreciate it, Dottie calling out that that's, seemed like a little bit of a miss hit off the tea potentially, because he was way the hell back there. But yeah, man, it was, did I hear, I was trying to hear, you know, when Ballionis came out onto the green, maybe a little bit of incoming perspective for Colin as well. Is that what he said? He did announce that they are indeed expecting later this year. So yeah, very early, early dose of

perspective for, for Mr. Morikawa. So just he started the day at 17 under par, made three birdies in a bogey on the front nine, then birdied 11, 15, 16, and then made bogey on 17. Look like he hit that ball in the ocean. He was lucky that ball. Trevor pointed out as well. He's lucky that ball got the balance that it did and didn't go, continue going left towards the ocean there. Made bogey there, but clutch tea shot on 18.

I mean, we saw Sam Burns lay up off that tea with just being too back of the clubhouse lead at the time because that wind was whipping that hard off the left. And just watching like the true shot, I guess, Being able to definitively say again, Colin Morikawa is one of the best shot makers and ball hitters out there in the world. It just hasn't felt that way for quite some time. The putting's been a struggle,

and his ball striking hasn't been as premium as it was at its absolute peak. But he put a new putter in play. He actually lost strokes on the weak putting, but had a new putter in play that he borrowed from Kurt Kittiyama and led the field and strokes game approach. He was like the second best ever approach round on Saturday. afternoon. He gave almost six and a half shots just on Saturday.

Andy's gaining a ton. A good opportunity for him to gain shots off the tee on golf courses like this where it's not a Bombers Paradise. But this is the kind of golf course that Morikawa should win on. I feel like the public in general has kind of just had an overall shift on Morikawa. I felt like people were, he came onto the scene. It was pretty easy to be a fan of him. And he hasn't done himself a lot of favors, I think media-wise over the last couple of years. But what was this, Dej, what was the sentiment like feeling like out there among the crowd Could you feel them polling for anyone in particular? And how did that relate with Morcawa?

It definitely, Scotty is the needle. I'm not breaking any news there. I know. I mean, everybody, you could feel it on the ground as soon as Scotty made a put. I mean, you could feel exactly where he was on the golf course. And everybody's rooting for kind of a, Neil, you said it up off the jump, but kind of a tiger-esque statement. Oh, my God.

Remember, that was the day Scotty shot 61 and grabbed the tournament and won? I think everybody's rooting for that. And then plus with the Eagle on 18, I think, you know, that was at the forefront of everybody's minds. A lot of Min Woo Lee fans out there. More than I, more than I would have thought people, Min Woo, especially with the youths. Yeah, I think a lot of people were riding for Min Woo Lee. And then Colin, he was a couple groups back. So I followed Scotty for a lot of the day.

So I didn't get a ton, ton of, you know, following him all day and seeing how crowds were reacting to him. But when he got to 18 and, you know, he finishes it off, everybody, he's a known, quantity. Everybody was excited. It was funny. I was coming back and I was coming back and kind of saw one of the, I won't out there, but one of the people who was working in the tournament. You know, we're kind of talking about Colin. He's like, you know, it's been a

crazy year. I was like, yeah, you know, interesting. Like, you know, hopefully he started a little comeback. He goes, yeah, you know, he didn't really help himself this past year. I was like, yeah, no, I trust me, man. I feel you on that. And I think that it's kind of like phase three. almost or chapter three of Colin's career, I feel like, where he came out, lit the world on fire,

you know, kind of went through the darkness, the wilderness, a little tiny, teeny bit over the last couple years. And now it's like chapter three, who knows? You know, does he reascend? Does he become one of those top three players in the world again? It's going to be interesting to find out. Dege, your analogy of John Legend,

Colin being John Legend, it resonates with me to this day. where it's like, yeah, I don't know, you know, everybody's, you know, you're going to see him on the Grammys, but I don't know if anyone's, like, calling out for, you know, an encore there, right? It's just, it's, but, Sally, to your point, leads the field and strokes gained approach. And I think on 18 was a perfect example of, like, if he's just slightly off there, he's chipping that ball. And you could tell he did not want to chip it. So I don't know, you didn't, I don't know what this strokes gained around the green is,

but he seems to have this issue of sneezing on, ships, you know, just kind of like, oh, you know, it's, it's a thing. Copa Lou had happened. It looked like it happened at waste management. And so if that ball's two, three feet right, I mean, I don't know. Are we getting that up and down? Like, it was, there was a lot of drama there. And so at least it was fun to see Colin overcome, you know, after bogey and 17,

you're kind of thinking like, ambient iced. I'm like, oh, my God, man, he's going to go to a playoff. There's no way he wins this playoff. Like, Min Moos over there warming up for like a whole bag. I mean, you see the divvits he was taken on on two T? It's unbelievable. It, for, I think, I guess I had a different one, to your point, if it goes a couple feet into the rough, do I think he's getting that up and down at Pebble, I do.

I think it was a very easy spot too. I mean, it was just right, chipping straight up the hill. Like, it was the perfect spot to leave it. I will say, Neil, I got a big kick out of his caddy. Is it Mark Urbanik, right? My, my, my, yeah. His, they were down on the ground doing, like, the full Camille Vajas, like, let me look at this lie. Is there anything that we're not seeing here?

We really don't want to chip this thing. Like, let's just make sure we're dotting all of our eyes crossing all of our T's. Okay, here's the putter. It was a little unbecoming to put that one. You know what I mean? It's like, most pros would chip that, I think. But, like, I totally, I feel you, brother. You know what I mean?

Like, that's, that's, I understand why you're not chipping it. it's so rare that I can actually do this, Neil. But for those listeners that maybe do not know, I actually played in the amateur portion of the pro-am this week. And I can literally attest that it is very easy around the greens of pebble. Like if there was, as soon as he hit that ball into that where he hit it, I was like,

oh, chipping or putting this tournament's over. Like he's getting that up and down. I mean, I mean, just a shot in like, so I think it was 19, 20 minutes. They said on the broadcast.

And he had laid back. He did hit three wood off that T. And Trevor called that out. He's like, I think he should hit driver and go win this thing. but he hit a great three wood, I think what, 223 in. But so from Jake Knapp chips in,

and there was this like spot of sunshine. It was like, whoa, the sun came out. And then, you know, all this stuff happens with Bridgman. And all of a sudden, like,

he can't even get this ball to stay. Like, I mean, shout out to Colin for getting it done. Like, what a shot. All three of those guys hit. Well,

I guess Aksche didn't. But Seb Strzrake had a beautiful shot in there too. The Bridgman stuff was funny too because for the bulk of it, I mean, like you said, it took like 20 minutes, but for the bulk of it, the wind had died. So it almost was like if it had finished normally and normal pace, like I do think that shot that Colin had into 18 would have been a little bit easier. But, you know, it took forever. And then the wind started to pick back up. I was like, man, this is tough.

That's a tough draw. We got a problem here, Daddy. Nats killed me with that one. It's like, oh, are they going to finish? Oh, no. But Colin is stepping up and hitting that shot is, fast as he did when it was his turn with it legitimately look like no sweat for him like that was kind of like a this I don't want to do you know had that one shot way too heavily in my brain of like is

this guy back it was like dude that guy was extremely confident uh in and executing it felt very routine it did not feel like he hit a miracle shot in there and that was a very good golf shot I will say though I know yesterday he had like an all time round uh hit all 18 greens and just balled out but today he felt a little fake I think 14 15 he airmailed the green which a lot of guys are 13 and 15 it seemed like everybody was going over both those greens but it did he didn't seem as dialed today sally so when he made that bogey on 17 I was like ah this doesn't feel good for all for LBC I don't like this that's what I was going to say I we got us talk about 17 sally that's the that's the swing that's going to live in my brain is like yo we are not all the way back chapter three uh just started a little

more interesting here. You know, he got it across the line, but I'm like, ooh, if you, if you ask me, you know, what are the shots from Colin that you're really, really going to remember today? I'm like that unbelievable iron shot into 16 where you got to like ride that wind. We know he hits a fade. We know that's going to be left to right. He's got to judge that perfectly to that back pin, not overspin it, all of that stuff. That was a cool pin back there on 16. But then just Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde on 17, one-handed finish. Yank left. Like that was good theater. And to your point, I know we were talking on Slack. I don't want to take your take your take.

But I mean, that ball needs to be in the water, man. What are we doing on 17? Like that's, if that ball's in the water, Rory too, Rory should have hit his in the water. Like there were like three or four guys. All these guys hate the kids, you know, can't make Bernie on 17. It's unbelievable.

But, Saul, you're spot on. The great man, Seth, the great man, Sep likes the kids. You know, he's, he's willing to throw up birdies for students. He, uh, Seth, Shrocka, I, like, totally lost track of, of, of Sep Strachco. And please don't fault me for that.

Bertie's 14, birdie 16, birdie 17, Eagles 18 to end up a one shot out of the playoff. It's always the Beluga lost track of Sep as well. We will get there will be a full beluga breakdown of the big board. How do you feel like you did? Just gut checking before we get to that part. How do you feel like you did this year? Better than you're one and two.

Some real bright spots, guys, some real good stuff at the bottom of the leaderboard. Some definite Shane Lowry's situations up top. But we'll get there. I don't want to spoil that. There were 44 total birdies on 17 this week, which is a lot of cash for the kids. Berties for students, of course, provided by AT&T there. Does that count yours? That is a great question.

It does count mine. I'm getting word in my ear that it does count mine as well. Congratulations. Scotty thing, man, is, it's insane. I mean, he was 25 holes into this tournament. He was even par, and he finished at 20 under par. he played the par fives and seven under today. He made three bogies and shot 63 in the wind at pedal.

He missed a short 30 as well on four, but I mean, he did make a bunch of bombs today. Like despite the short misses, he was number one in the field in putting this on the day. 151 feet of putts made, Sallie. Amanda shouted that out at the end of the round.

So I'll let Randy know, even though he's on paternity leave. I will be sure to share that with him after this. the Scotty thing was awesome. I picked him up on five today just because it was, you know, it's the ultimate like, what are you going to know, go not watch Scotty after he starts, you know, four under through three.

Like, what if, you know, I'm here. I better go check it out. He made a long par save on five. And then the eagle he made on six. I mean, that was just like the best. I think that was three wood that he hit in there. Just an awesome, never left the flag. Of course, he was making that puck.

But, and then seven, he hits a little floaty one in there. It makes a birdie there to get to 18 under, I think. And then when he made bogey at eight, I was like, ah, that's, that's bridge too far. Like these others guys are bunched. And it was the perfect storm of, ooh, Akshay just gave one back. Bridgman just gave one back. And, you know, it was, uh, the hope was alive for a very, very, very long time until he started, you know, like I was saying earlier, I mean, he just started going at all the flags,

trying to just make everything and kind of got caught with his hand in the cookie jar a little bit on 13 and then on 15, same thing, kind of right over the flag stick into nasty spots and couldn't get a couple of those up and down. So ended up a couple short,

but I talked to him afterwards a little bit in the media area, not a ton of media. So it was kind of just a very small scrum, me and him and Shupac. Scottie, Scottie. Yeah, kind of ask it. I'm like, hey, man, like, can you explain?

it like what what's going on like on thursday you know basically like you've played so much good golf over the last four years what does thursday feel like to you you know when you're just totally seemingly like totally off he's like honestly it's it was weird because i wasn't off like i know that you probably you probably don't believe me but like i didn't do anything different i didn't go practice i didn't nothing clicked he's like i just wasn't scoring you're like i don't know what to tell you it's just pro golf man and some days you just wake up and you make everything and some days you get the bounces and someday he's like I don't know what to tell you it just was like a weird freak storm so for anybody you know who who thought that was the end of the road for scotty uh saw I know you were on that block uh personally but uh for anyone who thought that was the end of the road I don't know I think

I think good golf is it's going to continue for the for the foreseeable future well you know the the thing is though he gets he was real pissed off on Thursday too So that's the part that makes you think like it's not clicking or it's something with this swing, which is would, you know, not to say that's the follow up question I'd have. I'd be like, man, you get really hot under the collar though. Like when it's like, you say you, you know, didn't feel like you were off. It's like, well, you were really pissed. So that's interesting. I think on. I think Thursday at Phoenix was a different story. He talked about that a little bit too, where he was like, no, that was off at Phoenix. And I went to the range and I had to grind and figure something out to get it back on the rails. I think this week, the frustration was like, why is, why is. Why am I not scoring better? I'm not doing all the things. I'm doing exactly what I'm trying to do for the most part. And so I can see that being almost more frustrating at times. You know, if your body's not feeling great or you're,

you know, you know you've got the club face open or like whatever. I can see that being like, well, I'll get it back eventually. But what you're just like, I'm fucking doing everything I'm supposed to do. Why am I not making birdies?

Why am I 10? I'm 10 behind, you know, the star boy after Thursday is like, you know, I can see that being frustrating. Back to Morcao for a second. I don't talk about Memou Lee here,

but one thing of note, ball speed noticeably up, I believe he touched 176-177 at some point today, and I think his average, I forget who had the tweet, Cody might have it here, but had his ball speeds up like a mile and a half or two miles an hour on average so far.

Just monitoring the situation there. I think we're going to say that about a lot of people over the course of the coming year. this is from Byron Lindique. Lindique, I hope I have that right. He said he averaged 171.5 last year. He's up to 172.7 this year so far. That's a mile and a half faster, almost.

Tough math there, actually. Brian, sorry. But this is like the early part of the year before it gets too warm and guys can free up a little bit and swing the club a little bit faster. At least that's how I envision it. Yeah, the monitor situation. I like that Twitter handle. Moderning situation there.

What are you guys going to do? What does this wind do from Moracawa to project out the remainder of this year for him? Is it fair to declare him back? What is back for Morikawa? Neil, you first. Does this change your outlook for him for the remainder of the season? Well, we've known that the talent is there. We felt that way at Bay Hill.

Like he's got, like he said, he's a premier shotmaker. I don't have, I mean, I want to say the four iron after getting iced into 18 was like, okay cool like he can do it but to DJ's point like some squirly stuff on 17 some squirly stuff just down the stretch like at no point until he hit that shot did I think he had this tournament lockdown so like I don't I don't know I don't want to be unfair like you know he's not my favorite player I don't be a dick but I'm like I don't I don't feel great it's like oh and then like okay I'm gonna put this one it just kind of feels like we're I I I see now there's no that though it makes some there's some kind of

a band-aid he wins. Somebody can have a kind of not fluky win, but a win that doesn't necessarily predict it. No, no, no, I know it's not what you're saying. It's clear that he's like a premier ball striker, strokes gained approach. That is your ticket on the PJ tour. It's always been that way. But it doesn't, if that's off, if he's not number one in strokes gained,

then it's a concern, right? Like you're, the putty can be shaky. The chipping. Who knows when he's going to sneeze next? You know what I mean? Like, it just doesn't feel like he's, he went out and was like, you know, the Terminator or anything like that. But it's a good quality win. I said it on our live shows this week. I do feel like Pebble is a resume course.

Like, Colin, put it on your resume. You won at Pebble Beach. I think that's a big deal. Like, when you look back at your career, like, that's a really good win. And he did it in the, you know, the conditions did roll in. And the course played a lot harder down the stretch. And he got it done. So I give him a ton of credit.

But I don't know if I'm like, oh, he's unstoppable at Augusta this year. Like that doesn't make me feel like, oh, man. majors right on the, we're on the doorstep of a major win. I don't feel that way. He does have a lot to overcome to your point of not, not hitting it far and not being a great putter is a lot to overcome. And you have to hit it like near perfect with the iron. Yeah, you got to throw some darts, man. And like all week until today, that was an easy course to throw darts on. Soft greens, you know, no wind. Like, you know, yeah, I was out on the bag for you. Like Russell Henley and Mav on Thursday made it look really easy,

really boring and really easy. And so, yeah, I don't, I don't feel good. If we get off schedule with his offensive scheme, I don't, I don't feel great about it. Dej, he, yeah, it's interesting. I'm in the same boat, Neil, where I'm, you know, I'll hedge a little bit. Solly, this is going to be one of your no sitting on the fence. They have these little signs everywhere at Pevel says no sitting on the fence. Like, how we need to get that for the live show, because that's how I feel occasionally.

I don't know where we go from here. I don't know what it's going to lead to. I'll say confidence usually begets confidence, right? He's been trying to get over the hump for a while. He's knocking on the door for a while. And so hopefully this keeps him, you know, playing good because what I was going to say is it is interesting when he, you know, when he's up there.

He's a name, like I said, kind of going back to the grandstands, the calls you hear coming out. Like people know him. People want to watch him. And I think, I think Scotty needs some foes. that make some of these Sundays a little bit more interesting, right? I mean, I think that he's a kind of guy that, like, if you see him and Scotty going toe to toe,

I think you feel something, Neil, even if he's, like, even or especially if he's not your favorite guy, right? I would love to see that. I think he did a little, took some PR steps backwards last year, and I think there's a decent amount of people who are like, man, I don't want to see that guy win. And I think that makes Sundays more interesting, right? And I think there's a lot of people on the other side, too.

There are a lot of more cow fans, too. and he's got a great resume for someone his age. So I don't know. Again, that's a big old fence sit for me. I guess we'll see, but I'm excited to see what happened. I guess last thing I'll say, the only asterisk I would say is that, yeah, Scotty didn't get off the bus on Thursday. They all barely made it out of the rip tide with Aquaman. You know what I mean?

It was like, whoa, like red flags are out. He almost swept that whole freaking leaderboard out to sea. And they just, they decided to swim out sideways and they got away from it. Like, you know what? I mean, seriously. Like, he just, like, Scotty's, I don't feel like Colin's like. Going to stare down with Scotty. Yeah.

One of the last like four groups today. I don't think Collins's winning. That was the last thing Scottie said in scoring was like, hey, do you know why everybody keeps calling me Aquaman? I was like, I don't know. I got to talk to. There's no way he said that. He did not say that.

Oh, God, you had me for a second, brother. A lot of people are saying it. A lot of many people. Ocean water Let me get that glove Water world I'm gonna Yeah my Morikawa assessment is not very different from what you guys are saying

I'll say this though He said one top 10 since the players last year And that was at the Rocket Classic Like it's been it's been a pretty hard fall off Like I think we're gonna see him around a whole heck of a lot more I don't necessarily think this is like Return to Major Championship form morocawa I don't think he's fully out of the woods

but I think he's going to be a top 25 machine again. I think he's at least figured something out to return to that level of player, but the floor is really, really, really high. And when he puts decent, he will be in the top 10 and top five. And it may win another tournament as well this year. We may have gotten a little excited with him, and Scotty has changed the game of what a top level player looks like. But I think we're going to turn the page and leave this era behind

of like being just a complete shell of himself. But we got a lot, still more to talk about. I want to get first to just give a big shout out to everybody, AT&T and the Pelop Beach Pro Am team for hosting us all week. It's like, it's one of the most fun weeks of the year. They do an amazing job of setting us up for success and helping us arrange guests and setting it up, setting us up with great space to do our shows. We did two live shows this past week, Wednesday and Thursday from out on site, shot a video

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What do you think it was? I didn't, I hit a bunch of like just okay shots. That was not a very good pro-am partner. I was like, I did not play poorly. I just did not do much spectacular. And it was very hard. So I played off zero for this. And I'm, as for your opinion on this,

the T's were pretty far back. Like I was, could have a conversation with Mad, Evan Russ from the T's we were playing and I'm, you know, not getting any pops on my pro. Like it was hard to contribute. Yeah, but you're also hitting it as far as Russell Henley. True, but still it was, I don't hit it as good as he does. It's awesome. I would say I was, uh, go ahead.

He was behind the 18th green, uh, today. Just watching watching the pros finish, which first of all is always a great, great vibe when, when the pros ducked back out under the tunnel just to watch the tournament end. I love that. But I was asking me, I was like any, you know, any, any, any lasting takeaways you've been doing about for Solly, you know, and his game that I need to bring up on the podcast. He's like, honestly, like, he just played

solid. I don't know what's it. He's like, he's playing as a zero. He's got absolutely no chance of winning. Like, you know, the format's just brutal for him, but I just played good. So, yeah, no big takeaways there either. It was just solid golf. It looked really good all day. Solly, like, like, like, you pass the eye test of like, oh, yeah, that guy's, that guy's got game.

I would say, uh, two shots come to mind. Your approach on our first hold of day on number 10, he had 173. back into the wind. You know, first hole can get a little nervy. You got the Pacific Ocean on your right. That's not like a super easy or an inviting green to hit. And I thought you just hit like a really good, thoughtful, elegant seven iron in there.

And you had like 40 feet, but I was like, that's exactly what we need to do to start the day off. We don't have to chip. We don't have. We just, and you had a great lag put right after that. I was like, oh, this is great. Just a comfy ass four at the first toll. The second one, you took a drop, a very, very legal. very cool drop from a embedded ball off your T shot on number six.

You drop that everything above board and you hit an awesome recovery shot, I think a six iron up into the middle of the fairway. It had like I think 47 yards in from there. Now my second question for you is what was the most nervous you were out there? I honestly, I don't feel like I got nervous out there as Cody flashes a photo of me hooking it. That was a T shot on 13. Yeah. After, it's after 12, DJs like, this is going too smoothly. Like, you know, you got to mess some stuff up. It was very boring. Of course. That might have been my best shot. It was over from like the almost in the bunker on 10, uh, hitting that up on the green, uh, on 13.

But, um, you know, I rolled in a nice birdie on seven, which I didn't think we needed because Mav was in tight and it was burning every hole in sight at that point of the round. And then he ended up missing that, uh, shorty there. So that was my, uh, positive contribution I made there. but most nervous was probably we got to like 17. It was just kind of the first moment. I was like, oh, there's a few more extra people around. Which was our eighth hole. So yeah, like kind of, oh, main event here. Yeah, just a couple extra extra people there.

And I ended up hitting a little scrappy seven iron up to the, to the French day. The Dege was harassing me about. I thought. Solly, what were your, uh, worry takeaways about the golf course? I mean, you, you rarely get to play the actual PJ tour event, uh, the week of the PJ tour event. actually the same time as the PJ tour event. What did you learn about Pebble this week when you play it? It was a huge, I feel like I understand pro golf better definitely.

I mean, I've walked a ton of professional golf tournaments very up close. And it is a different, it hits a different sense when you're actually playing the course right alongside them. And it's a different, like from the T on, obviously you're just playing the same exact golf course. And Neil, I don't know if you had this takeaway, but I was, I was flustered by, the calculations that would go into the shots and my inability to commit with confidence to clubs. I mean, I'm playing at a cooler temperature than I've been used to playing just a different atmosphere, a wind that plays heavier and up and down elevation on grass. I'm not that familiar with.

And I would get in between clubs and really struggle to hit a ball. Like, you know, if it's 163 and I was holding seven iron, it was like, I got to hit this easy. And then I would come up way short with it because it's just like, oh, seven iron is bound to go along of this one. and I know they're professional golfers, and I know they do this for a living every single week, but the speed and confidence at which they make decisions, I know at times it can look very slow pro golf on TV and the time they take in the fairway to figure stuff out.

The speed and precision they have of making the calculations with their caddy and hitting a shot with confidence and landing it within a two-yard buffer either side of the flag on an extremely consistent basis, like blew my mind. I've played with a lot of really good players, but to watch Mav and Russell do that up close and personal, and also their putting touch for mid-range. Shocker, pro golfers are really good, not a great takeaway, but this stuck with me.

When Matt, especially when Russ got to like within 20 feet of a hole, I'm like, this is probably going in. And then it looked like they played an amazing round of golf, and we walk off the course, and it's like, yeah, those guys were just like a little, little better than field average here today. It's mind-bending, you know, to try to hit the shots right next to them in easy conditions.

Like that pebble doesn't play much easier than that. I found them to be hard conditions for me, and they just made that golf course look like a total cinch. I mean, Mav shot 67, and it felt like he struggled for like 60% of the day. And it was an absolute treat to get to see that up close and personal. And just like the just honing missiles, they send it pins. It's insane. Yeah, I'd say the way they evaluate stuff around the Greens too, like the lie, you know,

they read the lie, as Russ would say, Dej, like they, you know, all where they put it in their stance. It's like three, it's 301. It's PhD stuff where and they're doing that like you said, Solly, they're not quick with the reading of putts. No. Very deliberate with the puts. But you, they do with their caddy get get the number and the club very quickly. And then they kind of take their time behind the ball, practice swing the whole routine. But like the the choice of what I'm going to do is is actually decided pretty quickly. That's a good, that's a good call out. Well, Well, the margin on putts is like extremely thin. And the amount of things you've got to consider when playing greens like that,

there's so much memory that goes into them. Mav had a great tip of like, look to, you know, there's going to be a lot going on with like, you know, broad macro slopes and the microslopes here. But like look to the water to level your eyes and see like what the actual land is doing right in front of you. Because you take a lap on a put at Pebble and you're like, this is downhill.

You take a lap and you're like, oh, actually this is uphill. I had no idea. And I only called in Mav for a few reasons. and I wish I'd have called him in for more because I had no shot reading those greens. And he could look at something and process five different things so quickly and just like tell me exactly where to aim. And he was spot on every time. There was not one put that was like, oh, Mav totally misread that one. And I didn't even sniff the whole.

Maybe one spot. I had a few things written down for observations. Like obviously you know, these guys are so good from 10 feet and in like par, birdie. They just expect to make those. And that's just fun to watch. I think that off the T for mere mortals or for for me, I feel like Pebble is actually more intriguing off the T than it gets credit for. One and two, throw those away.

But three is intriguing like picking a line on three, picking a line on four if you want to send it up there. I think six is really interesting. Like we were between clubs on six, from the one T up. It's like, I don't know if it's driver here. It's, you know, but it's a par five. So that's in your head.

And then you've got eight because it's blind. you got to be very decisive. They require attention on targets because of blind shots on eight. Nine and ten are both like, I think, you know, stressful T shots because of those runouts. The ball disappears down to the right and you run out of room. And then 11 up the hill, that fairway is kind of weird. And then 14, 16, and 18. I think all of those are like, you better be decisive about, you know, off the T.

I don't think it's boring off the T out there. and I think from the aerial cameras watching it on TV, I've always thought like, oh, yeah, these aren't, you know, like eight fairway looks really wide. But like from down in that gully on that tee, you're like, dude, I don't know, is it that house or is it that $70 million house? Like, you tell me, you know, so I'm sure if you play it a few times, that's a little bit less engaging, but that jumped out to me, caddying.

I think the only thing I'd add to that, too, Neil, It's like the, you know, the difference in playing it at different times a year. Like, it is, all of those things are true, but also the fairways seem pretty soft, right? And you're not going to have to worry about a ton, ton of runouts. Whereas if you came here at a different time of year, when they come here for the U.S. Open in a couple of years, next year, I guess. Next year. Like, you look for that stuff to be a little firmer and it just takes everything you're saying, you know, to an even bigger factor. And then you move on beyond that.

And it's like, what really struck me was just how many. three footers are outside the hole. You know, you get some of these like big, tiny greens that are massively pitched. Like number one was the one that stuck out to me this time. That high right shoulder, like that, that back right to front left slope is just massive, so much bigger than it looks on TV for such a small green. Number eight, that little kind of pimple that's on the right side in the middle of that eighth green was giving guys fits all day yesterday as they're trying to get to that back right pin. There is, there's more going on than that meets the eye for sure, which, which makes fun. You just kind of kind of match it up with the right conditions.

A lot to improve to like, you know, Sally, you've called it out already, like 17. Like I'd love to get the Pacific Ocean a little more involved at 17. Great view. You know, like there's energy at 17, but it could be a better golf hole. And then it kind of, I haven't stopped thinking about it. We were standing on 11 green, which is our second hole of the day. we were waiting for somebody to put and saw i just like you know tap me on the army's like hey look down that fairway like how sick would it be if this hole played the opposite direction and it's just like straight out like you basically all you know it's like you're looking out of tahiti down the hill and uh that that that would that was that that that stuck with me it uh it's

hard because you come to pebble beach you get out of those those holes by the ocean you there's so much incredible stuff that hits you. There's so many great views. It's an awesome, awesome walk. It's an awesome, incredible experience. Yet you are quite frequently left with just this little bit of desire, you know,

this little bit of like, it could be better. It could be better. But then you're a bad guy if you constantly bring up how the golf course could be better. But it, I'm not exaggerating when I say this. I guess let me qualify a lot of this. Like Pebble Beach,

why is it that way? We've lost Neil for a second. We're hoping to get him back. But why is it that way? Pebble Beach is a resort course. It is designed to get the number we heard, I think, was 65,000 rounds over the course of a year. If you're unfamiliar with that, that's a lot. If you're not familiar with how many rounds of golf that is.

So the golf course needs to be designed to withstand that level of play. And for the amount of play it gets, it's in incredible shape. Like you fix a ballmark on that greens and you can't even tell where your ball just. hit. There's so much green grass. It just not looked like just trudged over, you know, day after day after day. So, hey, renovating the golf course to fit what, you know, to fit the pro game is kind of more of what I would be talking about is somewhat unrealistic. They kind of renovate one green at a time, one hole at a time, and their philosophy for the entire golf course just runs counter to hosting big golf tournaments and especially this time

of year. You're just going to get soft wet conditions. So, you're going to end up with dartfest, low scores, and, you know, a little bit of a lack of intrigue around some of the shots because the slopes don't come to life when balls are landing that softly. I'll say this, though, and this was a surprise to me playing it up close and personal, that I'm not playing the Gasparillo this coming week. Ben is going to be playing. We're going to be filming. We're going to have a video. We're going to be bringing you the content. But I would definitively say, like, around the Greens, the Gasparilla plays harder than a.

PGA tour event does. Like, like not even close in terms of where they put the pins, how fast they get it, how hard the chips are. Granted, that's Bermuda and the grass is different, but like the whole challenge of like trying to get close to the green, close to the pins from those greens, it's harder in a

mid-am event than it is on the PGA tour. And that feels really backwards to me, Dege. It really does. There were so many times I had like, I did not even play well this week, but had like green side chips from rough that I did, I could grab a 58 from the fair way, walk right up to it and just hit like a little flop on of the collar and it went right next

to the hole for a gimmie. And I'm struggling in my short game and it was very easy for me. And I just have a problem with that. And I think that that is something that can continue to improve at Pebble Beach. Is that fair? Yeah, I would agree with that for sure. There are still some spots to miss. I mean, we mentioned it before. Scotty was on, on 15. He's above the hole. He flew it past and he's just in the, like when you get in the bad spots, you are chipping downhill, downwind. It can get a little nasty. But yeah, without the short grass firm conditions, you're, you're not really losing a lot of, of chips out there or kind of like, oh my gosh, that's a horrible spot where he's never going to

recover. It can. You don't get punished for missing is the bigger part, right? And again, work back like the, you know, the reason why the golf course is the way it is, and why they play at this time of year. Like, this is when the West Coast swing is. And like, maybe it won't be that way forever. Like maybe, maybe Pebble Beach will become part of the playoff swing.

And we'll see it in a different condition and different parts of it will come to life. Maybe there's equipment changes in the future that make it play differently. But the combination of how they set up that golf course when they play it and the current equipment deprives us of the greatness of what Pebble Beach can be. Is it still great and is it still an incredible experience? Deach we talk about this while you're out there. You've been there how many times and never played the golf course, which is a little bit of a crime. but it's it's one of the golf courses I would say like playing this like 95% of the experience is just being there you know I mean playing the golf shots is incredibly fun as well but like you can't say that about every golf course uh you know you can just visit it and get most of the experience but I would say that about Pebble Beach no I totally agree and that that's uh yeah I think that's spot on you know the you're a lot of why you're out there is to see how big the hill on six is and to go watch guys try to flight balls down in the wind on seven. and to, you know, see where the runout is on 8 and all of that stuff.

So it's, yeah, I bet this is probably the 30th time. I've walked the golf course today without ever having played it. I did get to hit a shot on 7. Thanks to my pro on Wednesday when I was caddying during the practice round. Solly, that was very benevolent of you. But the, yeah, maybe I'll piece together the other 17 holes someday. Neil, welcome back, man. Gentlemen, sorry.

You know, like I said at the top, we're experiments and new tech. it just decided not to work but we're back. We're changing cams so thanks for having me on your show. Sure. Neil, before we move off this, anything else you garnered from your time inside the ropes caddying, Neil,

that really stuck with you? I think the walk-up six is, I was huffing and puffing. That's a big ass hill, but six and eight, I, what a weird places to put golf holes. They're both

so awkward. I don't know. If I was designing a course, I would have made two very different holes there. And I'm glad they didn't because they're so unique. And they're almost the inverse of each other. Like one's up with, you know, kind of over a chasm, not quite one on six, not quite eight. But I just, those holes, I've all, everyone talks about those holes. So I'm not breaking any new ground here, but just like walking up and down them, you're like,

man, these are just like really awkward and unique and interesting golf holes. as far as if you're routing a golf course, I'm not sure that's the par five and the par four I would have put there, but I'm very glad they did. So I don't know if that's, I don't know. They're just, yeah, six and eight. They're sticking with me. Not breaking any new ground there.

If we have these, Cody, I did back on the pebble note, I did do like a really quick. So first off, Joel Stewart, a guy on Instagram did the post a couple weeks ago, just about like an idea for renovation, right? We talk a lot about, you know, bringing, bringing Pebble to life with, with a little extra flare. He had a great post of just like, here's what, what, if you're watching this here on YouTube, here's what the 12th hole looks like up above. Take the trees out and bring the, bring the view of the ocean back into play,

which again seems obvious and makes sense and putting a little bit of a Redan feature on that green, just how much stronger that hole looks. And I did this in Chad, GBT, in two seconds of just like, take the fourth hole and kind of add a little bit more texture to it. like add like this is the what the fourth hole looks like now kind of the circular green uh bunker set back from the green a little bit a little rough collar in there and just not a lot of texture to it and just like all right shape the green a little bit differently add a little bit of layer of some longer grass uh around the green around uh you know around this and some thick grass uh brown behind it do you have that image cody by chance uh there it is and just add like just some flare to it

instead of just looking at a lot of green grass everywhere it doesn't change that much strategy on it, but it brings the bunkers just a little bit closer to the edge of that. And, you know, again, I could, I could do this in a lot more detail if I had more time to do it and threw out a lot of holes on it. Like, it, it wouldn't take a lot to really bring a lot of Pebble Beach's features to life because there's so much good there. There's so much slope in these greens, like this green in particular, like could be a really, really, really good hole, but it just should be a little bit more penal for the misses on this one because it's such a short hole. So those are two quick examples.

So that's just some, yeah, some aesthetic stuff. Like when you do get the sun out there, it almost looks like a simulation when the, in the afternoon, when the sun's coming over the Pacific. To have some heather grass or some different contrast would probably make a big difference. It would improve the place for sure. I did get to watch Rory make a triple on number four.

He did not think that it was too easy. That may have. Did he finish what, four back, three back? after 64 today. He finished at 17 under 5 back of Colin. Five back, okay. He had a couple doubles over at Spyglass too. That was surreal.

Just chunked chips and blew one in the ocean. You don't get to see that bad every day. But anyway. Oh, guys, I want to give a shout to our friends at SoFi, the Ultimate Finance app for sponsoring a new segment here. That is the down the leaderboard segment with, I'm just getting word we have him waiting in the wings. Mr. T.C.

Go to sophy.com slash NLU to learn more about how you can get your money right with SoFi Plus. Let's go down the board. Mr. T.C. Where are you and how are you? And let the world hear your voice. Gentlemen, I am in Montana. Not a lot of snow here right now. But hopefully it's, hopefully it gets a little bit, a little bit of snow coming in the next few days.

and my family is stuck in Jacksonville. So I've got a free roll tonight. But I thought you guys were way too easy on Pebble. I'm sorry. Like the stuff we were saying about 15 or, listen, great golf course from three through 10. I believe this is the down-the-leader board segment for Mr.

T-C. If we have to go down-to-down. We'll go back to that stuff. Min Wu, T2, disgusting, disgusting stuff yesterday on Saturday afternoon, Saturday evening. Just, you know, in the conditions, where are the adults, where are the parents? We need to do better than that. He should not have been T2. What are he penalized for that?

Yeah, do you want to go into YouTube? He just refused to, like, hit his shots, and then he ended up hitting one off the path and wouldn't, like, wouldn't play because he felt like the conditions weren't right. It was outrageous. It took him half an hour to play one hole. Half an hour. Crazy. SEP, Neil, I assume, I will table the SEP discussion until we get to the

Baluga Big Board. Sure. Because he really, really gave it to you. The model just wasn't spitting out SEP this week, but that's that he might be the honorary Shane Lowry of the week. You got the best to me. Scotty, I believe we were walking around on Thursday after Scotty, you know, put up a clunker on Thursday and said, yeah, like he's still going to finish top five, though.

Sure enough, T4 after the three Eagles today. And 63 with three bogies is just remarkable. The great man, Tommy. 18 top tens in a row now? Is that where we're at? Stay tuned. We do have a new Fedora 5 that we'll be rolling out after this as well. So backdoor top five from Tommy.

We love that. 67, 68, 67, 66. Yeah, but he didn't really like, he didn't put up a stinker either. He just kind of, you know, just, and he looks great doing it. He's got no sponsorships right now. He's logoless or he's got plenty of logos on him. He's just not getting paid for him right now. He looks great.

Like, if people thought that Tommy could be any more likable and any more popular, that, you know, like it is possible because he's going to look better now that he's freed up. from the Nike stuff. Just up the Pebble Beach Pro Shop this week, huh? Yeah, yeah. Sam Burns, I believe we might have a new tanimal.

He wore that tan sweater pretty much every day this week and played pretty good golf. 72 in round 3, T6. Akshay, I think he's definitely anchoring. Oh, come on. You don't think so?

No, I don't think Akshay's actively cheating with 85 cameras on him he's playing professional golf tc i do not think so tvs refuses to show him from the side angle when he's on the greens they they cut away from that angle real quick wow do your own research out there people i need somebody next tournament they need to evaluate how many side angles we get see if tc's right about this is that coming from the glow inside the moat they're they're piping that in anyway anyway uh hit cussin we'll get there lowry solid week t8 nico etchevaria

Neil. I'm not that I will let you take that on the big board. Jake Nap. We were glazing him a little bit earlier this week and he certainly stepped up to the plate. Jacob Bridgman I think he guys talked about that from 18 earlier. Can I say, T.C. Can I say one thing on Jacob

Bridgman? Because there's a lot of, I'm sure this was a lot on the people watching at home. A lot of like who the hell is Jacob Bridgman type stuff. First of all, must credit no laying up live show. We were shouting him out a big time on Wednesday as a player to watch but uh he's kind of a victim of the signature event model the more i thought about it you know he had a good year last year and got into the signature events and now is like he doesn't have it's a bit of the big tone uh you know he's playing too many good events solid but he doesn't have a a great uh platform to go out and win the you know win some

lesser events for people to be like oh he's an up and coming player he's just up and coming already he's already there and so now he seems like a nobody when he's there and he's kind of like, do you get what I'm saying? It's kind of a weird, a weird spot where he can't really like prove himself in the minors because he's already in the majors. And then when he goes to win, everybody's like, this guy, who's this guy? I've never heard of this guy. He almost suck.

And it's like, it's a weird, it's just a weird cut a cutting both ways. The shoes aren't helping. Anywhere's to blow by. He does. But listen, he's a good, he's a good player and I refuse to, you know, consider him anonymous any further. God, I would love to clip the tape of when I rolled out that theory about big tone just to see what your response to that would have been.

I appreciate you. coming around on that admitting defeat on that one D'Hiege that means a lot. Big Tone had been approved for like 14 years by that point. I was going to say. He won like five times. Thank you. Please continue to cook TC. Hadecki? I'm impressed.

Hedecki, 367s and a 69 after he looked like he had completely lost his swing there down the stretch at waste management. Rory, you guys discussed that earlier, final round 64. Pat the hammer can't lay. finished this T-14 after a dub we'll get there in the in the in the in the in the Fodora five uh Tom Hogi Neil listen just kind of throwing you off the

descent a little bit no but I think in the in the Beluga's big board I think I hit Hogi spot on or just just about so we're going to fly the banner on that one TC uh big tone 18th Russ Henley uh Alex Smalley Brian Harmon listen the one that I want to call out from this T-19 group, Ricky Fowler. I thought we were going to see a win from Ricky this week after the 66-64 to start in the benign conditions.

73, 70 on the weekend, that's not going to get it done and disappointed in that. I watched him quite a bit yesterday. He was out of sorts, man. That 73 was tough. I don't know if he was potentially blinded by the lights. You don't play with you guy,

the star boy, but it was just not. not good golf for me. You got to explain. Rio Hitsasuni was TZ's trying to glaze him the weekend. Brian, Brian Alain on Twitter.

Great, on Exde, Everything app. Great nickname. And then, Zali, he said that he's going to counseling now because you made fun of them.

Well, I just said it sounds like a Ravel nickname. I will say the Star Egg, now calling him the Starboy. Starboy is fun of it. What else we got? We got linksmaster, George, limped home this weekend. Mavs, 63, 73, on the weekend.

Jordan is in it, like, through like seven holes today. What the hell happened after that? Crazy. Team Rose, T-37, can't be having that. Ludvin heating up a little bit. 66, 67. And then Ryan Gerard, T-45. I need to see more.

Ryan Gerard and Novak, both down in the, in the latter half of the field. So hate it. That's your down the leaderboard though, Jens. Dej, we got to get a, the,

the, the, the, the, giff of, the weekend in the mirrors at the Super Bowl halftime show. If like he's popping off on the weekend,

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is the white do we have the white smoke is the fedora five going to be a new thing every week like are you just going to kind of declare when there's time for a fedora five are we getting one tonight the people are dying to know for an update we are getting one tonight typically that i wouldn't do one when there's not a bunch of whoa It's the conclave. Typically, we wouldn't get one if there's not a DP World Tour event and a Corn Ferry Tour event and everything. But I think enough happened this week where we can get a Fedora 5.

So I also do want to say, I'd never stepped foot at Spyglass before. I'd seen it on TV. You've seen a lot of pictures. Like, whatever you said about Pebble being built for a bunch of resort guests or being set up and and just manicured for a bunch of resort guests. I don't know what spy glasses for them because that place, it's a fucking slog. I mean, really cool first six holes. There's a couple cool.

There's some cool things there, but I felt like I was at Greenville Country Club in South Carolina in spots. Just, yeah, just a strange, strange routing. Just a very strange round of golf. multiple personalities out there at Spyglass. Like really hot girl personality for the first like five holes. And then it kind of teeters on that line on the hot crazy scale. The quirkier, the better. Like there's some real fun, weird stuff.

And then it gets kind of kind of like just championship golf, deep bunkers perched up greens and just a nightmare for a lot of, a lot of, you know, paying resort guests. And then there's like a really fun hole. And then it just gets back into, you don't know what you're going to get every corner you turn. How'd you play out there, Sully? I didn't even.

Played okay-ish, again, just kind of repeated, you know, the same thing from Pebble. I only made one birdie. I missed a couple, like, really good birdie opportunities at Spy. I hit better approach shots at Spy and was kind of just lost with the putter, unfortunately out there. Mav did make more bogeys out there, so I did save a couple shots for our team with a couple pars, which you didn't make any bogeys at Pebble, but, no, it was not my best effort. We had a lot of fun, though, Neil.

That's, it was, you know, those things are designed for, you're shipping it, trying to make a ton of birdies. I hit a couple reckless shots. I went for it on, on 14, from a spot that didn't make any sense, really. But we had, I had driver off the deck just to please TC on 11 from like 265 into the wind, carrying a massive, like, big dip in the fairway that just had never had a shot. But we, we sent that out there. We had a lot of fun. Yeah, there's some cool holes.

There's just not a lot of, yeah, there's not a lot of continuity in spots. And then there's some characterless greens. and and then they're like, yeah, like, we're just going to redo this green, and it's different from the rest of them. It's just, yeah, I don't really get it. But anyway, and that thing was in the top 50, top 100 in the world for decades. Like, what are we doing, Golf Digest? It's crazy.

Anyway, Fedora 5, last week we had P, Goder, up, Siwu, Team Rose, Ryan Gerard, and Callum Hill. This week, starting at number, six. Sorry, sorry, starting number five. We have A.K. A.K. has cracked the fedora five. That's fifth.

Well, well, I would know. You guys heard it. You guys heard of January 12th, you know, that he, nobody's been working harder in the world than, than A.K. And it bears itself out. Are we sure it's hot, though?

Like, or is it like, uh, Hey, hey, listen, we did, we did say we, we can't critique T. Okay, you're right. This is his chance to cook. This is not auditable. This is this is this is a play space for TC. He's got him at number five. And Neil, I would say from a from a hot perspective, he's gone from 800 or he's gone from 1800 in the world last, at the end of last year, the 203 after this week. Nobody's risen more spots. You cannot argue that.

He's hot. He's hot. We have a tie for fourth. tie for fourth we have jackson coiven who won his second consecutive collegiate event medalist the second consecutive collegiate event this week at the gator uh event down in gainsville and scott schaffler we have a tie between those two for fourth he moved up interesting because he wasn't in there last week oh yeah scotty was not in there last week listen the 63 with three eagles like he's he's fucking hot he's hot and i think we can officially that I think good things are on the horizon for him. A little bit of a curveball at three, all right?

I know I'm going to catch some flack for this, but that's okay. I've got Ripper GC at third. As a team? As a team. They've won back-to-back events now. And, you know, won their home event down in Adelaide on a real golf course, playing good golf, big leash, great final round 65 there, bogey free and i think ripper gc hats off to them chappo okay uh next up we've got the weekend

hit satsune uh he's he's hot and he's consistently hot neal this is what this is a little bit of what you were talking about um you know you've got the blue flame stuff over here but you got the white coals the weekend right now is the white coals see that's that's kind of what i'm you're exactly right that's what i'm getting at i like that pick tc okay and then uh And then first, we still have P. P is still the hottest player in the world. And I don't think anybody's taking that away from him. I don't think he's playing this week at the magical Kenya Open at Karen Golf Club.

I could hurt him. I know your model. Like I think I do, that could hurt him. We'll see. And then on the watch list, we've got Siwu Kim. Team Rose is still floating around, but he's been bumped down to the watch list. Tom Fleetwood, Colin Morikawa, a little baby Colin. That's wild that he's only had one top 10.

since the quicken loans. And lastly, I've got Mary Meeker, who won the, the amateur portion. I think she was like nine under on her own ball on two rounds and paired up with Keegan. So doubt to Mary Meeker, you know, you keep this going and you can be looking at a Fedora 5 spot. T.C turned the Fedora 5 into the Fedora 9. That Ripper, geez, nobody saw that coming. Unbelievable.

You knew something was coming. Speaking of proprietary models and boards, is it time maybe to take a little look at the Baluga's big board? How did this year's effort, and for those that are somehow unfamiliar on the Wednesday live show prior to the Pebble Beach Pro Am, Neil goes in and tries to predict the exact leaderboard from one all the way down to 80 for the Pebble Beach Proam. And how did you do this year, Neil?

I think we improved, you know, continuous, learning. That's love, love a good feedback loop, but I think your three is our best year yet. The future is bright. Are you leveraging AI? No, not at all, TC. I saw you put that in the chat earlier. I didn't like that. The only thing I used AI for was to give me like the complete field list and it left out Alex Smalley. So it didn't do a good job much. Neil kept saying it was a 79 man field. I just took it. I couldn't let him do it. I was like,

literally how would this be 79 people? So listen, and we'll leave that there. Guys, I'll start with the low lights. Siwu, you know, didn't get it done. He's still in the Fedora 5, but not. No, he's on the watch list. Dej, he was battling today to try to, you know, try to salvage something, but that didn't go well. He was the ultimate example, Neil, of, you know, it kind of, especially when we do all these live shows, it kind of only matters what you do in the first couple hours on Thursday.

Yes. And Siwu birdied five of the five of his first five, like all five of his first five. looked at the leaderboard and it was good stuff. We're like, oh my God, it was in the last. Yeah, exactly. We're like, Neil rocked it. Then I looked today and he was at like 66th, and I was like, okay, maybe not. But he battled today to save you some face. We were on 17 and we looked at the leaderboard and see what Kim was in first and Brian Campbell was in last. And I was like, just shut it all down. We could get it. He wanted to take a picture next to the board like he was, you know, at the top of it himself.

Uh, low lights would be Siwu, Colin is the honorary Shane Lowry award winner. Uh, I had him in the 60s and he ended up winning the tournament. Uh, Hideki, Minwu. I had men do way down the board. Nico Etjavaria stunting on me and big tone played really well. So, uh, and, yeah, well, Sep wasn't that far down, T.C. He was like in the 30s. He was 44th and he finished.

Yeah, you had Colin, Colin 69th in the moment, though. Colin was 69th and won. Min Woo Lee was 72nd and got second. And Sep was 44th and got second place. Ege, you love my Min Woo call. So you guys were backing me on that one. For sure. You know what?

Regrettably, as much as I like to, you know, call Min Woo the unstable compound and this guy's going to get blown out to see, like regrettably hit some very flighty proper golf shots today. He hit some really good job. Thank you for you today.

All right. I do want to, we had some, some good stuff. Brian Campbell came in last, guys. That deserved not. Is he T-77, I believe?

Him and Thor Bjoranson. Sorry, I was dog in Thor Bjornson. You didn't like that. T-7. Bjornson wrecked his rig today. I called out Jonathan Vegas before I locked the board. I had him in like the 50s. I called it out though in the moment that I was like, that was bad.

Vegas also tied for last. Adam Shank, I nailed that one. He's way down the board. Maddie Schmidt, see ya. Aaron Rye stinks. Danny McCarthy. T.C. You didn't like me calling out Lee Harvey Oswald.

wild he played like shit uh i had speed right in berger did too like right around 25 i think for spith i think he was 29 so i'm flying the banner there jake nap played really well that's a that's a that's a highlight also jake nap got echo star on his sleeve that might be the like the most random like the premier satellite communication company is sponsoring jake nap like didn't see that coming uh what else do we have not the premier satellite communication company well echo star calls himself that they have a bunch of bandwidth that they like self-clothed like sold to everybody anyway sahith uh couldn't trust it dej you're right about that couldn't trust it um who else

i'm just these your words neal not mine but yeah you know what the saw hith thing was funny solly we were joking about this on uh that was friday i think because you were hitting balls next to saw hith to warm up and it just was a like immediate uh illustration of how hard it is to predict golf because i mean sally's like legitimately hitting it better than sally it on the range so i's hitting it all over these big white beach fades that are just i'm just like yo and then he's like talking to his physio he's like i'm feeling something here like this guy's about to get blown off the planet man and he goes out and he shoots like he's like 500 through 14 or something i'm like yeah i got to not

not try to predict anything uh some good some good close calls with oxy i thought he'd play well uh you know lefties do well at Pebble historically. We know that. Who else? Scottie. For the audience, that's not true. No, it's not, but it's going to become true. I actually love Randy's take. It was rattling around my brain this weekend.

Like, he predicted that Akshay's the next lefty to win Augusta last year. I think about that a lot. I'm like, man, I, he, and with, I talk to Joe Griner, his caddy on the, before we went out and played, Sallie on the putting green. We had like a five-minute conversation. and at TC, we play with Akshay at the BMW, and he was very ball business, no chit-chat, like, you know, compared to, like, the front nine with Russell Henley.

And I said to Joe, is like, this is kind of a keep-up and shut up bag. He's like, no, man, we're viving so hard. Like, he's, he is really chatty. And he's like, I really, like, he's got a, Joe had a ton of energy. He's like, I'm really excited about this season. Like, Ocche is maturing. He works his ass on.

We're both lefties. We see things. the same way. He seems to trust my reed, you know, like my, my, my clubbing and like, he's like, it's a good discussion with us. So that was, honestly, now I'm like, that was a really useful conversation. And it's a, you know, Joe's a friend, so it's nice to hear

that he's doing well. But I'd say, look out for Akshay, like impressive stuff. Now, one thing I will put in the models for next year, Akshche seemed really cold today. No body fat. We need to factor that in. He had the hand warmer on. Didn't feel like he had enough layers both Saturday and Sunday.

So he just seemed a little uncomfortable with the weather out there today. So just filing that away for next year for the model. We do have just a bit of a statistical look at how you did this here, Neil. Just a smidge of one. Please forgive the AI slop of the photos in this graphic if you have it, Cody. But it looks like you got three of the top 10, correct? 30% man. That's a hall of fame number there.

not know what any of these players look like, by the way. Your average error was 22.6 spots off. You did nail Jake Knapp in the top three. We lost our graphic. There we go. Sam Burns, your biggest misses were Seawo, Morikawa, and Victor Hovland. Hovland, I was saving that for the end. Hovlin is the honorary Doug Gim Award winner this year.

I think I had him in the top 10, and he finished. Where did he finish? Way down the board. T58. 58. So that's tough. I will say there's some guy on Twitter or X, the everything app, like Sledge, at Sledge or something. He always does a really good infographic, good analysis of the board.

So I'll be sure to float that out there when he tells me that hopefully I did better than the random number generator. That's always the goal, DJ, is did we do better than the random number generator? I think I get this year. Yeah. And you're out there. showing your work. You know, the random number generator is not doing that. That's right. I think that's, I think that's good. So, yeah, I think people can continue to tail the, the Blue's big board as an index next year. I feel like Sam Burns is, is kicking

himself after this week. Like, he seemed like he was in prime position to, to put this thing away. He's so good, T.C. Like, he's a, I know, like, he, he, he kind of gets a little bit of, like, are you going to close it out, sort of, uh, flack on this year program? But, my God, man, watching him drive it, watching him putt it, watching him control his spin, watching him flight it. I mean, he's really good. He's a very, very, very good player. And he's in kind of a class of his own.

He's in that upper crust of real golfers out there, I think. Neil, I got you beating on a meet absolute error, the random number generator by about four spots. Let's go. That's improvement for sure. And the top 10. You're hitting the top 10 at a much higher rate. way for my guy sledge to weigh in i think he's kind of the uh he's got he's got the sledgehammer

the final say for me uh tc anything else from you before uh before we let you go no i'm excited to uh hear you guys talk about ladies saudi and live adelaide i just want to say cliques beat the crushers this week uh proud of them for that um or uh kimer was out and then the fireballs are in a bad spot. They seem to be really, really struggle and the majestics are completely hopeless. But tune in next week. I think after RIV

and the magical Kenya open, we will get a new Fedora 5. So I'm guaranteeing one for next week. All right. Thank you for calling in from your vacation, my friend. Crack on and cheers. Final few notes from Pebble. I saw, yes, obviously, debuted some new wind graphics this week,

which was a great week for that. That was a pretty clutch ad for this week to show the depth and the variety of the winds at different heights and just how hard it was blowing and the directions and all that for the golf course that depends a lot on that. That was super additive. And I believe this was the first ever use of the double drones of getting the drone view from like behind the T and also catching balls landing via drone for again for a place with massive cliffs and just like showing the elevation change of that place from a very

different view. And getting the drone shot of Jacob Richmond down there on the beach. I was going to say solid. Just the final 20, 25 minutes of the broadcast with the drone of Bridgman and showing the different angle of 18. It was like that was awesome TV. It was really, really good. For like what was like just a sitting around waiting game, I was locked in that whole time. So shout out to CBS for that.

100%. Um, sponsor exemption notes. We have Max Homa, Tom Kim, Cahith and Adam Scott are in this coming week into Genesis. Uh, Bay Hill, Horshiel, Chris Kirk and Jordan Speeth, uh, getting, and yet he famously did not get an exemption into Bay Hill last year. But I imagine that will be a topic of conversation here coming soon as well. I feel like the Genesis ones are fair. I mean, Max, past winner.

Max, a past champ. I don't know, global superstar. Tom Kim's a global superstar. Past winner, yeah. I'm just putting Sawhith on, you know, are we sure? Are we sure? People are going to complain about Jordan Speeth getting into events? Just not saying, I'm just saying.

Hater. You were right down. next to him on the range. I could have made like a lot of order on you. As always, one of my favorite golfers. I hope I wish him nothing. I hope he wins every tournament he plays, but I'm trying to call it both ways here, guys. That's a little bit of time

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High noon suns up. Went to my neighbor's house yesterday afternoon. The fridge was absolutely stocked with High Noons. They're having a bunch of people over there. I didn't even have to tell them. Didn't have to bring any over from my fridge. They were absolutely ready for the party. uh guys massive massive story uh in the in the world of golf and i got to admit i just did not see

this coming i hope i hope that's fair i hope that's recognizable uh anthony kim the golfer uh absolutely wiped the fucking floor with john rom and bryson de shamboed down at live adelaide he was five back of both of them heading into the final round shot a final round 63 he won by three over rom and one by six over Bryson. It is, of course, his first win since the 2010 Shell Houston Open. Again, just to emphasize how unlikely this win was, the odds I saw on the Everything app floating around where he did was 525 to 1 pre-tournament for this event. And I believe I saw this 220 or 200 to one prior to the final round,

playing in the final group with Bryson and Rom. And, I mean, there's just a, I don't know where to start with this. Like this is, he played, I believe, two entire years of golf without gaining shots on the field, like without a single event above neutral strokes game until he finished T5 at the Piff Saudi. Then, of course, he qualified for the final spot on Live through the promotion series this year. Had a good week last week in Riyadh and just absolutely stunned everyone with this. I don't really honestly know where to start with this because,

my mind is in a complete pretzel on this one. I mean, I can start. I watched a ton of this last night. I'm still out here on the West Coast, watching in the Pacific time zone, and it was on right as I was going to bed, and I stayed up for the whole thing because it was fucking awesome. It was awesome.

The crowds were awesome. The golf course was awesome. AK made every single putty looked at. He's fist pumping his brains out. Like, after, on like the 14th hole, I mean, he's just, he's running around the green fist pumping. it was it was very very very sick uh to watch and he's doing it in a 72 whole for event on a firm golf course against john rom and bryson de shambo and it was it was surreal like extremely surreal to watch and i think uh you know lots of noise obviously with the the live golf uh of it all

but i think if anybody uh has listened to this podcast for the last how long we do this podcast 10 years 12 years like there shouldn't be any uh any confusion of where we kind of stand on a k because i think he was a seminal figure in all of our golf upbringings right and our most formative years of watching golf and man all those feelings are still in there and came flooding back in a big way as this dude who has been through all kinds of personal stuff we never thought we'd actually see him on you know see him on a golf course again is showing up and doing that against like two major champions it It was awesome, man. And I'm just, you know, we can talk about kind of what it all means and what, you know, going, going forward.

But just to linger on the specific moment, man, it was iconic, iconic stuff. And a long-term payoff for, you know, some bets by live, right? The Adelaide event has been their strongest over the last couple years. And, you know, I think this was a manifestation of them continuing to invest in that event and making that one as good as it can be. And then also, I mean, the, the AK thing, I think started as a complete publicity stunt, right? And trying to grab notoriety and trying to grab relevance.

And I can't imagine that even they thought that they would get something like this. And so for him, you know, Tron, like, we kind of had some cross talk earlier, but like, Tron was saying this, you know, talking to some people like, yo, he's working his ass off. And he went out, he got relegated, he qualified back for the league. And I know we can talk about all of that as well. But went out, earned his spot, is working hard and, like, straight up, stared down two of the best golfers in the world over 72 holes. And it was awesome.

I don't know what really. That's kind of my big takeaway from it. It was incredible. Yeah. I saw some highlights, Dege. And shout out to Adelaide. I mean, look like an electric environment. So for this to have the stars aligned here.

Like, if this happens in Riyadh, I don't know if it has as much juice as like just the. totally the energy of being in australia and it's just inspirational when not a lot of times this in professional sports or just life as you get older when like effort gets rewarded like that you know like when your younger effort gets rewarded and like you get to you know it gets you to a scholarship or whatever but at this stage it's like yeah it can't play golf for what 10 12 years and it's like a lot of times you be like yeah you work as hard as you want brother but it ain't going to happen. Like to just will yourself into birding, I mean, burning five of the last

seven holes. It's like just true self belief and grinding his ass up the last year. Like he was shooting 80 last year on these in these events. Like, it's crazy. Imagine how many balls John Rom hit in that 10 to 12 year period to like get incredibly good at golf

and start the day with a five shot lead over this dude. And just to get run down on the final day. Like in front of a shitload of people too. It's not like you said, it's not like awesome like he's like you know we had the we made shirts legends never die like you know where at akago we don't know like you know he's struggling with a bunch of stuff and it's like I mean my concern with AK coming back was like oh they're going to parade him out like a

like a gimmick deed like a publicity stunt it's like that's not that's not really but then for this to work out and him to just go out and win it's like that's I mean worth all of it it's awesome it's I got nothing else to say but it just it's It's like a storybook. I don't want to say ending because it's not over, but just a storybook narrative here. Like you just don't see somebody just willing themselves back into being a competitive force. It's unbelievable.

And it's just like a dub is a dub, man. What a dub. Unbelievable. I think back to Josh Hamilton, the baseball player that was a former number one overall draft pick had massive off-field problems, substance abuse problems. And like was drafted in the Rule 5 draft by the Reds, came, you know, was an extreme long shot to make the roster.

Like, let's see if this, this, you know, guy has anything left. It ends up becoming an MVP in Major League Baseball, like the extremely unlikely story of, of overcoming some major personal obstacles to achieve something back. Sporting field. And, man, it's, again, just so incredibly unlikely. I can't, I can't believe it.

I'm the most happy that he seems happy in his life. And I don't. I don't know him at all, and I have no reason to root for him, but I am weirdly invested in him, you know, not, you know, being sober and celebrating is so, like, if you, you just look at him, like, you, you could see the, the wear and tear that his problems have had on him, right? And the, again, just to come back out and beat those two guys playing with them, it is like, I kind of rolled my eyes when I woke up and saw a lot of tweets, like saying you would, you know, the movie script, you know, you would get turned down because it was.

isn't believable, but I'm kind of like, man, that is kind of like a movie. I mean, we can laugh. Putting the live golf stuff aside for a second, I don't think this changes the live golf conversation at all. Again, I'm just celebrating like this moment of, of this dude overcoming all of this to go back and win on the golf course is, uh, congrats to him, man. I'm, I, I could not imagine a better story coming out of live golf. And then just talk.

Not only that's, yeah. Go ahead. Oh, sorry. Not only that's Holly, but the, uh, you know, I feel like the PJ, equivalent of this that we have kind of that even even saying pjatory equivalent of this is like very reductive to how fucking incredible this story is but we've talked a lot about justin rose right and like oh man he's just later in his career he's just continued to to grind and grind and grind yeah imagine if justin rose just disappeared for 12 years like how yeah how unlikely that would

that would be it's just you can't uh it's impossible to explain man and it's kind of the thing that you know again, I said this earlier, but you go back on golf Twitter 10 years ago when everybody's talking about, you know, Anthony Kim, like he's some sort of Yeti, you know, that's that's hiding in the wilderness somewhere. I don't think any of us would have believed this story, but like this is kind of the moment that all of us were hoping for, right? It's like, what if he comes back and he's still that same dude that, you know, made 11 birdies at the Masters, whatever, whatever it was. In 2009, yeah. And it's just so rare, even setting all of that aside, which is a giant, a huge pile of stuff to set aside because it's incredible to believe. There's also, like, tour players and, you know, the best golfers in the world are so good now at, like, keeping their composure and not, like, Scotty shot 63 today. And I was standing next to him on so many T-boxes and he looked like he was playing a pro am.

He's just kind of like, he's yucking it up with Ted. and he's talking to Max McGreevy, and he's just kind of not too high, not too low. Like, Anthony Kim is laying everything he has out there on every single putt he makes. Like, you just don't ever get to see that either. And so it was kind of like his outward emotions very much matched. I think how everybody was feeling watching this. Like, you almost saw him be like, I can't fucking believe this is working. I can't, like, oh, my God.

Like, I can't believe that I'm in this position again. This is incredible. And it just made for really good. TV, man. I don't, I don't know what else to say. Other than that, it was, it was great. Man, you just, yeah, we do need some more emotive characters on the PGA tour. Or just all these guys playing together. I don't know.

Like, it's, it's, but I mean, so just for a second, ROM shoots one under today or yesterday, Bryson two over. And then Hatton was, was T3. I mean, he, he went toe to toe with all, like, those are the three dudes over. there on live and he just like ran away with it wasn't even close. That's it too. That's a, that's a celebration of that style of play of sandbelt golf that like just adds, you know, I mean, again, the, the, the kind of, you know, I don't want to, I don't, I don't

want this to come off the wrong way in terms of like we're celebrating this accomplishment, but like the other side of this look for AK is like statistically, it's still going to be very hard for him to compete on a lot of different golf courses. Like his distance, his average driving distance is like significantly lower. than the average tour pro, like close to, close to bottom, close to Aaron Rye levels without any kind of sort of accuracy. At least it has been, right? We could be entering an entirely new era where with a new golf swing and the work that he's been putting in that includes more speed. But like a style of, like, again, to do it, like the kind of one week that's going to set up the best for you with firm,

firmness everywhere and kind of an more open style of play in front of all those people. And have that be clearly the lives best event is just what made this thing like just super unbelievable thing. happened on top of it happening here, on top of it being in front of all those people, was just like, I don't, I don't know what, what kind of comeback story will be, would be next, you know, I guess unless he goes and does it at a major championship, which again, seems quite unlikely. Saw a lot of stuff out there about him. He should get a master's invite now.

I do believe that to be extremely unlikely. A lot of hyperbole happened on the Everything app over the last 24 hours, but it again doesn't take away from just the, the ridiculous. of this entire situation. I would say though, I am glad that he earned his way back on to live because he did in some ways, you know, a couple of years ago, last year get to skip the line a little bit. And that's when like the ability to just kind of like bring someone in for star power, worked out for a really, really good story.

But you could also argue if you wanted to be like pessimistic is like, oh, well, you know, if he had to, if he was trying to do this within the PJ tour system, it's like, I don't know if you make, you know, he probably doesn't make out of Q school. right because of all the things you're saying sally like this the stars just would never even come close to a lining in this way so just a lot to unpack here that's all i guess is what i'm getting at it's like it's great man it's great to talk about yeah and i think for live like as a as a league i mean i think there's so much uh there's just so much golf but louder talk that is so easy to roll your eyes at and so so so um just so easy to kind of ignore as like bluster or weird posturing. I'm like now this is the first one that I've I've been like man that's like a very legitimate moment for the league. Again, I don't know if you can it's like you can recapture this and do it again or you know outside of AK going and winning five times and

getting into the top 50 in the world and getting a bunch of major exemptions like I don't know how you kind of like draft off of this. I don't know that necessarily Scotty and JT and Colin are going to be like, wow, if AK can do it, then maybe I should join LiveGolf. I don't think it's that necessarily. But I think it's, it's the first moment that I'm like,

no, that's a hundred percent real juice. You added something to the golf world. Totally. It's like so much of it has been divisive and taking stuff off the table and unnecessary splits. And I, but I've said this every year, I think,

after live Adelaide. It was like, you zoom in on like that event and you're like, of course this is a great event. Like I'm not going to nitpick this one. Like I'm so stoked for the people of Adelaide in Australia that they get their event. They found this the Saudi Sugar Daddy to fund it. Like the problem they've always had is being able to fund that event or whatever, you know, major event that they that they, you know, will obviously love to have. Like zoom in on that micro, like all of that makes sense. Do I think it was like worth tearing the golf world apart just for like this, this annual event?

No, I don't personally, but people of Australia may feel entirely different. And obviously, there are fans of this league that do feel that it was all worth it. This doesn't change my opinion on that, but it doesn't mean you can't look at this and be like, this was an added positive element to the golf world, which I think Liv is short on, but like this, this definitely clears the bar. Deeb's, Solie's hitting, hit and live with one of the Phil Mickelson. I see you, Blake. Pick that one up.

Yeah, that's good. That's great. Well played. Other thing I was going to add, is Brian Rolap team at PJ Tour Enterprises. If everything's on the table, man,

we got to mic up caddies. Like this is just such a, this is such a no-brainer. Watching the coverage yesterday, as you can hear every word, AK's caddies saying to him before he hits a shot, why they're laying up, where they're aiming,

what they're worried about. I'm like, it was so additive, man. And there are some things that, uh, the tour very much needs to continue to push the envelope on. If a lot of this Phil was right, this never would have happened without live stuff

is to believe, you know, to be believed. Let's maybe move some of that into the broadcast. 100% each like the Facebook Instagram model, like steal reels from Snapchat, steal, you know, just. 100%. Copy it, man, for sure. A good thought exercise, though, is if you go back 10 years and like, I mean, it's, I don't know, what, we had five.

billion, eight billion that we've put into live? I don't know. You're like, yo, check it out. Like, AK is going to come back and win like in an awesome way, like down in Australia. It's kind of like, might, my thing. Maybe that is worth. Maybe we could look back if it blows up, live like, like, you know, cease to exist in the next 10 years. It's like, yeah, but remember that AK thing?

Maybe it was worth it. That was really cool. It does make me like genuinely curious to, to see how he follows this up in terms of like the next i don't i don't do not have a habit of checking live scores like i just there's almost nothing that can happen there that like honestly intrigues me but like i'm curious if he keeps this up i think i'll be checking Thursday friday scores at their next event to like see all right what is it how is this a real sustained thing that we're getting from okay like that would be like equally massive story i mean this is an incredible one is this a one off

event i don't know it's it's hard to say i would if i were to predict i would say i would say like I would not expect a rise into the top 100 from Anthony Kim but I was very wrong about all this from the jump I said it was manipulative of live and I was not a fan of the move to bring in AK from the jump because it just felt exploitive and it felt I don't know just everything about it felt off but now we're sitting here kind of celebrating this guy's return to a glory in some way and it's it's hand up I was definitely wrong about how that one worked out for AK so I'll also say as a noted live hater that I am, very funny to see Rom finish second every week.

He just can't win. It's very funny. It's very funny. So, yeah, I don't know what else to say about that, but that was another just kind of kicking the nuts to him. As he just, you know, a little bit of a Scotty, like, man, it's getting frustrating of doing all the right stuff. I don't know why I don't know why I'm not playing well today.

I thought I was supposed to be the star boy over here. Yeah. It's just very, very funny stuff. Yeah, it's it is hard to just go. The next two events are live Hong Kong and live Singapore, which will be middle of the night and here in the U.S. and no, no fan atmospheres, if there are anything like they have been in the prior years. Like it just, if your tour was like this, it would be such a different conversation.

I really do think it would. if you had a lot more Adelaide's. If you're only going to have 14 events, they kind of all need to be Adelaide's for your tour to be, you know, to get the respect that you so seriously demand, in my opinion. Cody? Yeah, I just want to a couple other things from the week to point out here. A.K. almost didn't even show up there. Didn't have a visa and actually to go work in Australia for the week.

It came late. I can't remember if it was Monday or Tuesday when he actually was able to fly into Australia, but kind of a wild, holy cow, that's weird how we got here moment. And he signed with the team. DJ, you're making the joke about maybe the greatest manager ever, DJ, just pulling the strings there and putting the four aces back together. Yeah, Dustin Johnson trying to recreate P in the aggregate, I think, on the four, on the four aces, you know, trying to get a good money ball value pick out of AK,

a little bit of Scott Hadderberg situation with Anthony Kim. you know the Aces came in third this week Legion Legion 23 and second the Rippers as TC noted came in first Rom did have one of the most infuriating TIOs I believe it was it on the 18th hole

it was his last hole I assume it was his 18th hole or the 18th hole at in round three he blew it 70 yards left into a wrong fairway with a big grandstand around it and just got to drop like 75 yards out and then hold the shot. I think he made it. The worst. I mean, he did the same thing in the final round, too.

He just didn't hold the shot. It was so bad. Cody, anything happened on the ladies European tour this week? Yeah, we ended a day earlier, but back in Piff World, the ladies, or excuse me, the Saudi ladies international. Charlie Hall won one over Ockie, Eway and Cassandra, Cassandra Alexander. Charlie was on fire, all right. Shot a final around 65, two bogeys.

She was sitting way back over Ewy, as she made the turn, and then just went on an incredible run. Birdie Eagle, Birdie, Parr, Par Birdie to win. Chased everyone down. Charlie had a couple good quotes at the end. She said, well, after nine holes, I ran into the toilet and got some mashed potatoes. So I don't know whether that would give me like a little bit of power for the back nine or what,

but very interesting. Still not smoking though, Neil. I'm monitoring that for you strictly on the Zinn. So with her 750K win that she got, she's like, sweet, I'm going to pay off my house. So she's riding high. She's also the highest ranking that she's ever been in the Rolex rankings that moves her up to number three in the world. currently sit at Gino 1, 2, Charlie 3.

That's also the highest ranking that an English woman's ever been, which is kind of crazy to think about. And Charlie is there. So it's a lot of stuff going on at the old Riyadh Golf Club. Allison Lee was a little American. Big story there.

Just golf clubs got stuck in Amsterdam. I don't know what airline she was trying to fly, but ended up playing the first two rounds with basically a rental set. she finished T25, shot 7068 with those rental clubs. She just borrowed them from all over the place, the driver in Fairway Woods from the actual golf club's rental bags that they have for rent, and then the irons, wedges, and putter from like the GM or head pro at the club.

And then, you know, by Saturday, she got her full bag back. But it's a cool story. She gave birth to her little boy last April. bullets or four starts since coming back in the first since 2026. So we'll see what Allison does. She's going to play more LPGA events or just continue to play on the LET. But I'm pretty high. Excited for the LPGA to kick back up too as we go to Thailand.

Gino's going to have an incredible crowd there. And again, it sucks that more people don't travel over for the Asian swing because it would be sweet to see, you know, Gino, Nelly and Charlie battling out at some of these events. Look out. Charlie Hall. debt-free Charlie Hall. Look out,

Debt-free. They got to know what the interest rate was, you know, so not all debt's bad debt. I love hearing that, though. I'm paying off my house. Give me out of debt, baby. Freed up! She's freed up! LAT's off to Australia?

Yeah, they got a week off, and then they have a four-week run in Australia to include the Aussie women's Open in there. And then, as I said, Honda LPGA, Thailand, Angel Yin defending there this week. And you got a couple good names. names up top, but notables are definitely missing there.

So Gino, the headline, of course, no Nelly, no Charlie, but kind of filling in the rest of the top 10 as we move through. But HSBC, the following week, Asian Major, that's what they like to call it. There'll be a lot of good names there, but still no Nelly. Nellie's not traveling, not playing until we come back to America. We're chilling. in super, super fun global news as well. I believe this goes in the watch this space category.

Sultan Ahmed bin Saliam, the CEO of the mega trade and logistics company, DP World resigned from his position after he was named in the documents of Jeffrey Epstein, who referred to the Dubai businessman as a, quote, close personal friend. He got got pretty hard, has already been reported. replaced as the CEO of DP World. I don't know what the effect is on the golf space. This was a, obviously, this is not the deep, this is not the CEO of the DP World Tour.

This is just the sponsor of the DP World Tour. And he's been quickly replaced here. This was circulating pretty heavily somewhat in golf circles in some way. That's why I had this as a watch this space. I don't know if this, you know, I guess if I'm searching for a downstream effect, Does DP World continue to sponsor the DP World Tour? Does this leave an opening for Piff to get even closer involved with the DP World Tour

would be like puppet, puppet strings are kind of looking potentially down the road, but I don't even think it's a guarantee that this means anything specifically for the DP World Tour, putting aside the reprehensible nature of the things that were found in those files, obviously. I think we'll maybe keep it, keep tabs on the trap draw for more on this. Sounds like a trap draw.

Who are you setting up there for feedback, Sully? I don't, I'm just, I figured Neil knows a lot of stuff about the world. I thought he was going to do something with that. Like, why I got to be the one hand on the Epstein files here? I mean, it's just crazy. It's like some of this, some of these files stick on some people and they just get like, you know, vaporized. And then others is just like, yeah, now we'll skip right over that one. I mean, it's just, I can't keep up, Sally.

I can't keep up with the files. It's not good. It's not good. Yeah. I think confirming that you quote love the torture videos. It's awful. That's what I'm saying. That's going to get you.

Yes. This is how it should go with everybody. But I mean, God, just, I mean, so, it's just a murderer's row pun intended of like, just everybody's so freaking like age in the wrong, wrong ways, man. It's awful. On a much more fun note, Gary player. Where you want to go next? You asked me to comment. That's my comment.

everybody needs to stop being so like aggressively horny and like just stop stop doing it just don't stop doing it I totally agree deal just don't do that don't do any more under 18 just don't fucking do it

it's like what are we a good lord all right please continue take me to Gary Player just to be clear Gary Player not in the Epstein files that that concludes the Epstein files related portion of tonight's program to my knowledge Gary Player

not happy, guys, that he is unable to take his three grandsons out to play Augusta National. A lot of quotes, a lot of quotes. I forget who he gave these two. I apologize. Maybe I can get that here in a second. But this quote was, I've been an ambassador for Augusta for all these years and they won't let me have one round of golf in my life with my three grandsons. This one's my favorite one. My grandsons are dying to know about their grandfather's episodes on that golf course, as if he has not told them everything they could.

possibly imagine already. They have to be out there on the golf course to hear them. All the golf courses that have hosted the Open, the U.S. Open, the PGA, but obliged, but they won't do it at Augusta. It's just the current management there. But these are the times we live in, and I accept it. But I accept it with sadness.

He said, Bobby Jones was a wonderful man and a wonderful asset to a wonderful tournament, as was President Eisenhower, as was Clifford Roberts. Those three people, they basically made Augusta. Then Arnold Jack and I came along and we fought it out every year. And then we made Augusta thanks to the coverage and publicity we generated around the Masters,

whether the club likes to admit it or not. They won't admit it, but we made Augusta. Tell you what's not going to get your grandsons out there is calling them out in public. Number one. And number two, this is classic. Like, Gary Player is one of us. He's just pissed because his club won't let him play in a fivesome, right? Because you got to have a member.

And so it's like, hey, you got three grandsons. I mean, maybe they would have said yes if you, you know, you got to chop it down. One of them has to sit out. I don't know. But to go public with this, I just don't think that's going to pan out well, Sally. It is funny that they made Arnie and Jack members of Augusta, but didn't make, didn't make Gary one. And, yeah, he's unable to bring to bring his three grand sons out. But big, like, just true, like the first, this might be one of the highest first world problems I've ever heard.

I'm not allowed to host whoever I want to at Augusta National Club. I'm not a member of, but I greatly enjoyed that one. Yeah, I got a, I don't know. It is a little weird to trot them out as one of the honorary starters every year. But however, the same guy that would go and give all these same quotes, like I'm going to guess maybe there's a little bit more going on behind the scenes. So hard to pick a side on this one. I'd also probably shout out of Gus here because they, I mean, you got to think. think they okay he's probably gonna make a stink about this they're like we're not gonna let

them hold us hostage like we don't you know it's like don't negotiate yeah we're not doing it sorry man yeah the guy whose son was holding up golf balls uh to get sponsored during that open the honorary star we're not gonna let you do that man the last time you had your family out here it didn't go well wasn't didn't he also get clipped for like selling signed merchandise and in everything else like that i mean this is a long history of player related stuff there is indeed a long long history of that but uh anything else from you guys before we move to wrap here uh we have i don't think so sorry i know i'm i'm stumbling just a just another awesome awesome time to be on site right it's uh it's great to see everything that goes into pro

golf it's great to see you know all the little micro moments that don't make it on tv it was uh it was very fun i'm glad i stayed uh stayed this weekend and got to watch some g in person I do want to, I meant to call us out earlier, but one micro moment TC and I saw when we were on the 13th hole at Spyglass. We're over in the left bunker and Russell Henley's like in the, in the, in the fairway, just a little bit behind us. And they're him and his caddy, Andy, we're having a decently long conversation about the club. And the wind was confusing a little bit front pin. And, you know, we're just getting a real up close listen into all the final checklist before they get into the shot. And there are between clubs and it just kind of dependent on what the wind was going to, like,

make up its mind and do. I'm like as Russ gets into the shot, he like, you know, not an, not an abitchier commanding way, but like as he's getting into it, he's like,

all right, if this wind shifts more back into me, back me off this shot. Like, commanded it to his caddy of like, as he's getting into it. Like if this win changes in the next 10 seconds, tell me and back me off.

And it didn't change in Andy's estimation. And Russ hit the shot and it covered, it was perfectly pin high. Like they just nailed the calculation. But just that, that call to his. caddy the last second of like back me off if this changes. I don't know.

That was just a random nugget that I don't think I would have gotten if it wasn't fortunate enough to play in the event. And it was, it's just really cool to see both him and Matt McNeil and his caddy and his brother scout just work up close and just, again, just be super processors. I hate to like sum up the week of like,

wow, PJ Tour players. These guys are good. Don't know if you guys know this. But like that was it. Even after doing this for 10 years, like watching it up close this week was just like, holy shit. Both of those dudes are so good at golf.

Like so much better than like the 80th player in the world. Like the gap between like Mav and Russ and like the 80th player in the world is massive. That was a takeaway. Yeah. This week we have the Genesis invitation on the PGA tour. Of course, the magical Kenya open on the DP World Tour. We have the Honda LPGA Thailand. On the no laying up front, we got a full podcast episode coming out this week.

The guys, Neil, Dej, TC detailed their trip to Nebraska. A lot of people I know have watched that video over on our main YouTube channel. Thank you to those that have. If you haven't, please be sure to check that one out. It's some of the best work we've ever done. If you don't, guys don't mind me saying that. We'll, of course, be live next coming Sunday for the Genesis live show after that play continues. And we, of course, had a ton of content hit this past week from Pebble.

Please be sure to check that out. We did a bunch of live shows from on site. That's some great pop-ins and visits. Andrew Novak was an absolute gem. what a hit that guy was. We'll need to bring him back. I think several times a year. He was quickly, quick, quick fan favorite there. Matt McNeely joined us. Johnson Wagner. Ricky Fowler, first ever appearance on the No Lange podcast, joined that Wednesday as well.

And that's not, that wasn't, you know, a little bit of preview of pebble in there, but like that, that was a pretty timeless episode. And you can go back and listen to that if you, if you happen to miss it. So we released a flying video with Matt McNeely on our YouTube channel. We also released a video with that. with a bunch of our annual bunch of questions with Jordan Speeth. We walked a couple holes at Spyglass with him. You know, got to get some bunker raking lessons from Michael Greller.

That was an absolute treat that one was. That's, and a bunch more content on our social channels as well. So please be sure to check that out. Anything I missed? No, it's RIV week, though. Back at Rive,

guys, it's been a while, man. So it's, I'm really, I always love watching pro golfers at Riviera. So I'm excited for this week. Yeah,

it kind of sneaks up with this little back-to-back. the way that it is this year. Weather does not look great, I don't think, for this week, which will be quite unfortunate. That's what I've heard. I haven't looked at it myself, but also my models are not TCs models, and I'm not allowed to use those in the program anymore.

So I want to give a special shout to our friends at Titleist and Footjoy, of course, to our friends at AT&T for having us out this past week, to our friends at SOFive, for our friends at high noon for helping lubricate us here on this Sunday evening. Great, spending some time with you. to Cody running the ones and twos behind the scenes as well. T.C. checking in from his vacation. DJ stay in a couple extra days to bring us the on-site reports there from Pebble Beach.

And Neil, I know it was a tough timing with bedtime tonight as well. Thanks to all of you. Thanks to all of you that tuned in live or listening on the podcast. We'll see you back here next week.