No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1131: Saturday at the 2026 Players

Episode Date: March 15, 2026

Ludvig Åberg (-13) leads by 3 over Michael Thorbjornsen (-10) going into the final round of the 2026 Players Championship. Cam Young (-9) sits at solo 3rd with Matty Fitzpatrick, Brian Harmon, Viktor Hovland, Justin Thomas, Corey Conners, and Xander Schauffele (-8) all at T5. We run through all of today's play, get TC's on-the-ground experience following Ludvig, run down the leaderboard, play HFBITFB, pick some winners, and more. Presented by Titleist. Support our sponsors: Titleist - #1 Ball in Golf High Noon - Sun's Up! Arccos - NLU15 for 15% off at https://www.arccosgolf.com/ Players Championship Giveaway: https://subscribe.nolayingup.com/march-giveaway-2026 Looking to travel this year, check out East Sands Golf Co.: https://www.eastsandsgolf.co/nlu Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club today. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Nolanga podcast presented by our friends at Titleist. My name is DJ joined by my good friend, Sali. Chris, how are you?

Thank you, Dennis. I am great. How are you on this Saturday evening? Nice to be chatting with you. I am doing great. man. Another great day at the players championship where Ludwig Oberg must credit T.C. is your leader by three over young Michael Thorbiornson. Cam Young won back at minus nine. In for a great final round. We're going to have TC popping in to join us here shortly. He's currently speeding down A1A and his white Bronco trying to get back home from the from the golf course. Looking forward to getting all the reaction from him. But first, who's who's making the show possible? possible that I saw it. Oh, come on. We know the no laying up live shows presented by our friends at Titleist and the new Voki designed SM11's Bertie on 11 for both Ludwig and Cam Young with their new Voki SM11 gap wedge. That is bringing us commercial free again until Cody says so. So thank you to Titleist. Go get fit for some new wedges. And we are going to have an interruption free episode thanks to them for the early part. We're going to get some ads in. We got to get paid for this somehow. Who knows? Cody might lose track. Who might. I mean, who could who could say? the next ad's even going to come. Shout out to Tidlis.

Let's start, of course, with the great man Ludwig. Started a little slow, a little bit of a scratchy start today. Missed his first four fairways, I believe it was kind of driving it all over the map a little bit. Miss four of his first seven greens. He was one over through eight,

but nobody was really pressing him. He was playing with Xander. Zander wasn't really pushing them too hard. They kind of just stayed in neutral a little bit. Zander got his first birdie of, I'm sorry, Ludwig got his first birdie of the day on number nine. He did an absolute seed in there that somehow bounced down into that bunker.

But got it up and down for a birdie. That was his first birdie of the day. Of course, we're going to talk about it. Made a 17 footer for Eagle at the 11th. That kind of was a little bit more of a hello world type of moment there. His third Eagle in the last 29 holes. He's just missing number 16 to complete his set of crystal on the par fives this week. settled in after that looked much more steady

as Xander kind of things deteriorated for the X-Man out there as well Ludwig stuffed a good one on number 17 hit it to about eight feet but missed a put and then three putt at 18 running another one kind of eight feet past

and missing that one so it all added up to a bunch of pars in a 71 and a three-shot lead for Ludwig what what stuck out as actually I believe T. T.C. just joined us so he didn't miss much why don't we just we can just go ahead and bring him in because i have a feeling where he's going to want to talk about ludwig as well so please tc this is your moment absolutely nothing could possibly go wrong tomorrow he has won we've cried you called it uh just this is your moment and we'll just go ahead and celebrate for you tonight thank you sell i think i think tomorrow's the moment uh we're going to wait it was a little scratchy there the first uh five holes or so um was with them all 18 holes today and impressive The putter, he's making putts that he would miss, like some of those four, five, six footers that he missed the last few years.

And I was really impressed with his bunker play today, too. So we can get into it. But what did you guys see on TV? Well, it looked like he was struggling. It looked like, all right, we're not playing. Pen the Ears back Friday, 63, bass clogging, rally killer, all of Randy's stuff looked like it was on it. And then you look up, he's like, well, he didn't, like, lose any ground. that looked as not quite literally as bad as he could play,

but it kind of felt that way in the early part. And it was like, I, okay, he's probably, you know, he gets the birdie on nine. The 11's very accessible there. Like, that's probably going to be a birdie there. And he's going to be in a very good, in very good shape. Bertie's nine and then goes in Eagles 11. It was like, dude, you guys had your chance with his guard down.

Everybody else made massive mistakes at some point today. And he just refused to do it. And he just looked like, he looked like the best golfer in the world. honestly. I mean, a bunch of those t-shots that he hit were like the guy we saw two years ago, more than the guy we saw last year in recent weeks. And it just leaves you wanting more. It leaves you wondering why we haven't seen this level of play from him in seemingly quite some time. And it, I'm really not saying this to jinx. I love Ludwig. One of the easiest guys ever to root for. I don't see a way that he doesn't win this tomorrow.

he just feels like I would be as confident with him as anyone with a lead like this heading into the final round of the players. Solly, according to the Fedora 5 that came out on Thursday night, he's the second best player in the world right now. Of course. But best player in the field, right? Correct.

I mean, he I think was number one. Solly, I agree with the first three quarters of what you said as far as obviously like his likeability, how much funny is to watch the fact of that, like, when he swings the golf club. I think Porter kind of wrote this in his newsletter, too, that he doesn't, like, when Scott, when I watch Scotty play golf, I'm just like, I can't do that. Like, that's the best player in the world. That's incredible. And when I watch Ludwig, I'm like, oh, okay, like, it just is like

watching a simple machine. I'm like, oh, I understand that. I see how he's generating power. I see how he's, how he can't miss from that position. Like, I'm not saying I could do it, but like, I can, you know, I can understand it for sure. And to your point is like, man, how does that not work every week? Because when it's just, when it's on song, as our friends across the pond would say, I mean, it just looks so freaking easy, man. The T shot on 16 looked like that. The T shot on 18 looked like that. Like, how do the fuck does this guy ever lose? And then the last quarter of what you said, we like trust him as much as anybody. I'm like, I don't know, man. There's still enough wobble in there. It's still a golf course that is notorious for letting it get off the rails and two shots swings. And all that stuff, Cam Young had some great quotes after he was talking about 18.

He's like, yeah, I mean, it's a golf course. We're just like straight up. If you hit a bad shot, you're going to make a double. Not going to make a bogey. Like, if you hit a bad shot, you're going to make it double. And it's, uh, they're out there. And I think tomorrow's an awesome test. I, I said this actually to you guys earlier today.

I was like, I think the most exciting scenario is a Ludwig like three or four shot lead. We're like, all right, man, do you have it? You have it or not. Go slam the door. Do you have the minerals? Do you have the minerals? Do you have the bottle? Go do it.

man go do it i think the yeah it was kind of a scratchy start like one you know one was fine like pin high there but two bad drive on two uh good approach on three not t and then yeah four four was where i was like oh like that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't the norm there he kind of hits that like he was getting a little spinny on the front nine there um but like what is he's such a more mature player than he was even 12 to 18 months ago like I think back to the masters or whatever that the the up and down on five the up and down on seven um just like really steadied himself and some of like you know that like seven was was kind of bizarre well that's what I was going to ask you about because I'm like okay I fully understand when he hits a good shot I'm like okay

there's all the pieces worked that was great what's it like in person I haven't watched him play in person enough. Like when he hits a shot on like seven, I'm like that sucked. Like how does that? What does it even look like? Does it get just like balloony and high and spinny? Is it the wrong club? Like what? What's going on? Yeah, I think on seven the wind kicked up a little bit there. It was up there the whole time. I think they just got the wrong club and, and like it looked like a decent swing. And he was kind of posing on it and it came up 20 yard short. I was like, holy shit, what was that? There was a front pin and stuff. And it was a it was a it was a, it was a, it was a, a whole location to where you don't want to go too far past that because there's a big

kind of roller there. But again, like he made, he made that, that I don't know what it was, had to have been 10, 12 feet on 7. And he's made a ton of those this week, especially for par. And after that, it was like cruise control. Like eight, it was just, you mean on 5, he made a 13 footer. He only had 5 feet on 7. Okay. Yeah, 5. Yeah, 13 foot arm 5. Hit the green on 6. good shot there. And then, yeah, and then seven was kind of the last of the struggles, really. And then it was like eight was great shot in there. Nine, like such a delicate shot from that bunker. I know you were there in person. Just being out there the last couple days,

the reminder of like, you know, you can watch that shot on TV, be like, ah, yeah, he missed that one left. Like that man missed that shot. 0.01 degrees to the left of that flag from 290. Like it was such a ridiculously good shot. One of the shots of the day. And I it up in the bunker. It was like, yeah. Well, and like those bunkers aren't easy as you know,

like it's, there's such heavy sand and, and like it's tough to get much spin out of them and you're so far below the surface. And then really from then on it was like, all right, game on like 10. It was a really good second shot into 10.

Kind of a tricky pin there on the left. Then 11 was like, I mean, that thing didn't like, it wasn't going anywhere except for 15 feet. You're right of the pin and, and, uh,

kind of a, crappy spinning one on 12 but like awesome bunker shot out of that I think he wishes he had that birdie put back barely missed his spot on 13 and then yeah just kind of smooth sailing on 14 15

blew it through the fairway a little bit any other guy I think would have made the TV truck move like they had what a hero this what a brave man trucks gets it there meanwhile Zander was so slow all day like they were a hole they were a hole and a half behind after two or three holes

They got warned right off the bat. A lot of big kind of laughed when they warned it. I wonder who could be holding. We're all looking for the guy who did this. Yeah. I mean, some of the some of the other commentators out there were, they were pretty vociferous.

Like, man, like it's getting worse and worse with Xander too. Like that was just a really bad round of golf, compounded by exceptionally slow play. And then like the drive on 16 was, like, I was just, I was standing right there with Ryan Lavner right behind a T.

And I was like, holy shit. it, man. That was just insane. Really bad second shot in there. And then what? Did he flub the chip? Yeah. It looked like maybe just went under it or something. Kind of like the delicate chip out of like super thick rough. I think he just scooped it a bit. One of those TBC shots that like we've seen a lot of the best players in the world just mess up because it doesn't look that hard on TV. But you go and stand there and try to hit it out of that rough at the water like balls rolling that quickly. Like Jacob Bridgman's second shot into 16 TC, you probably didn't get to see it. hit like a great down the elevator shaft you know fade in there hits kind of in the middle of the green goes all in the water in the back like 16 starting to get crispy crispy

crispy by the end of the day yeah I think the like 16 too like that was a good two putt from Ludwig like that could have easily easily been a you know 10 footer coming back and and and then yeah 17 how much did you clear the water by oh plenty no sweat okay it's just a perfect shot it was it was just a no chance like I was taking some stats and stuff and I was talking about balls in the water on 17. And like before he even stepped up, I'm like, oh, well, here's the total for the day. That's it.

It's impossible. He can't possibly hit in the water. Yeah, it was just a just textbook, you know, three paces on or whatever. Stop, stop pin eye. Yeah. And then good stuff. I left after his drive on 18. I was there on the T for his drive on 18 and three putted charity blanket was over.

Yeah. He had a solid shot in there to, what, maybe 25 feet or something and blew it like eight feet past. Kind of like almost lost. Almost got worse. and then missed the comebacker. And yeah, so it's a three-shot lead over Michael Thorbjornson. A couple Jacks guys, couple TPC guys, you know, couple Jacksonville native sons. The Verino Gallery is back.

Exactly. It is fun reading some transcripts and stuff. Thorbiornson, not a player I know well, but it sounds like, I mean, Lovig's only a year older than him, you know, as both old as we like to joke that Lovig is and as young as Thor Biornson seems, they're actually only a year apart and play a bunch of rounds together down there and both probably move there like about the same time i would imagine or levick hasn't been there very long right and both number ones on pGA tour you like back-to-back years graduates of of pGA tour you so already massive dub for for that you know project to having them be

won two in the players going to the final round is uh a tough hell for the mules there I think my biggest takeaway was just how unbothered Vladivagus the whole time. A, he went to the he also might be really, really, really, really hydrated. He took seven Bordeaux party visits today.

I don't know. He's probably just trying to kill time if it's so slow out there. Although that was better. I mean, it was better for him today than it was the last two days planning to do some Thursday Friday. I can check in his phone or something.

Kind of a question for you guys. In the three-ish years, we've been watching Ludwig, you know, play golf on television and hearing him talk and all the questions he's been at. What is the most unlikable thing Ludwig has ever done in three years? Like the one, like, ah, he got bitchy on this one. Ah, he, you know, he kind of hacked at the ground after this bad shot. Like, he was kind of bitching about the, like, I cannot think of one, one single thing he's

ever done once to make him less like, you know, make him unlikable in some way. I think the maddest I've ever been in him was like he thumping in the water on 11th, yeah, like that one time saw when he hit that bad shot. He didn't, he didn't act for earlier. He just hit a bad shot. It can't be having that. That's a very good point.

I know you asked that earlier. I was like, I was tried so hard to think of something. I'm like, no, I think he's just, just super cool, man. Maybe I can think of one offline shot where he like recoiled and got a little angry. Like we all do. but like that's and I'm not even positive he's ever done that but that's like if I was stretching to find some

reason you know something he's done to not just be like uh the most easy going and likable guy out there it's I I struggle with that even on four today like he drove it you know bad drive hacks it out it's a like certifiably bad wedge into four green goes way long of it and then and then and then you know blows a pot by and and that was a really big comeback or for boi because i think if he makes double there on four totally with five six seven coming up it's like okay that's that's a different different round of golf that you're looking at he's made he's made a couple good bogey saves in the last couple days like when he's had some 15 yesterday when it goes haywire it's like he could give two back he only ever gives the one back i will give a shout to mbc

like they would they they zoomed in on they got a catty convo like maybe the only one they got to the day in floor fairway and it was like 86 yards and love I know I don't to the point I was just making like love it plays he plays so fast he makes decisions quickly and he goes quickly and they were kind of Ian scofferin were kind of talking for longer than him were used to seeing him over over a shot and he pulled gap wedge from 86 yards and I get they were trying to hit a shot with less spin to have it rip less because of how slope it was on the front of that green and blowing it that far past one, I was just like, God, I was so much more engaged in that shot, knowing he's like, I heard him say, let's go gap wedge.

He made the decision. It wasn't Scoverin, you know, kind of making the decision. It was all on him. And I was like, okay, let's see if he can take enough spin off this and take the distance off. And he couldn't do it. I was like, God, give me more of that because that brought me, you know, that was one of the best moments of the day just because they brought us on to the

ground. Yeah. How was NBC overall? Save that for later. I got a little segment I'd like to get to later. Ronald. Yeah, that question's been answered. Ludwig is going to be playing with Michael Thorbiornson tomorrow, which I think is a certified

badass pairing. That is a, you know, players always say, give me a chance on the back nine on Sunday. I would have taken it. You give me this, give me this pairing on Monday morning of this week. I would have got a big hell yeah for me, I think. 67 for Thorbiornson today, vaulting up the leaderboard after an opening 74, notably in the, you know, kind of got the bad side of the draw, fought his way back the rest of the week.

Ball struck his face off today, leader in strokes gained approach. Solly, what did you see from Thorby Ornston? The Eagle on 11 was spectacular. That got him to 5 under for the day. Very similar, though, to when he made Eagle on 15 at waste management this year. He gave it right back immediately on the next hole. He's got to get a little. If he has a big moment tomorrow, we need him to calm down when he gets to the next hole.

We talked a little bit about him last night. We're still in the process of figuring this guy out, but we know the ceiling is really, really high. And I love his golf swing. I actually got lunch with him a couple weeks ago. He's one of the younger guys here in Jackson. I'm not done nearly as good of a job of getting to know some of the younger guys out there. That's cool of you, Sally.

He's got an elevator back down. I can try to get some guys, get to know guys before they show up on the pod and things like that. And I was, I was very reminded of how, you know, how young he is. Like, you know, we're just getting lunch in the middle of the day. And he orders just a massive burger and just downs it like, no problem. And I'd be like, if I ate a burger in the middle of the day now, I would be having two and a half hour nap after this. But he's just three days, man. They don't have to think about things like this at all.

But he was just a very supremely confident player. I mean, in the best way of like, of the way he was talking. talking about his goals and what he wanted to accomplish. It was not, he's decidedly not a mule. He's not looking to hang on out here. Like he very much believes in his talent. And, you know, I think we're just kind of starting to scratch the surface as to what that actually looks like.

Because he checks a lot of boxes. He's longer than, way longer than the average tour pro. It plays, you know, last year he was about 12 yards longer than the average guy out there. He's about 10 right now. And he's 5% more accurate so far this season than the average store pro. like a really, really, really good combo. You don't have to hit it amazingly close with approach play, which has just been kind of just okay.

And his putting's just been okay this year. But I wouldn't be surprised if he, I think Ludwig's going to win, but I wouldn't like be jaw dropped. Craig Perks surprised if he goes out and shoots a nice 68 tomorrow. Ludwig has a bad day and he wins. That would not be an outrageous conclusion for tomorrow. But massive spot for him.

I cannot wait to watch and find out. So they should have a benchmark for like average tour player and then mule as far as like statistical profile. He hits it. Yeah, it's a 7% straighter than the average mule. Yeah, he's 10 yards longer than average, but it's longer than the average meal. Justin Radeghur, you know, the data golf guys are out there this week. Like, you know, we can, I'll float that to them tomorrow.

You know what? Speaking of data, I pulled a little tail of the tape. Can I, can I pull some, let's go category by category. not that it's a two horse race, but it is a fun final pairing. So I'm going to go through this. Strokes gained off the T this week. These are these are stats for this week and remember. I love a good tale of the team.

Me too. I haven't done one in a while. Remember Thorbyornson had that opening around 74. So keep that keep that in mind. But strokes gained off the T. Ludwig this week. Third, Thorb Ewardson fourth. Got a got to hit it good off the T at TBC Stargass. We know that. Driving distance.

Ludwig first. Thorby Orson, 37. Ludwig is, he also is like not scared to hit driver everywhere, where other players probably aren't this week. Total fairways, Ludwig's hit 27, Thor's hit 29. Strokes gained approach. Ludwig third, Thor, 21st. He was first today, like I mentioned.

Greens hit, Ludwig's hit 40. Thorbiornson's hit 36. Strokes gained around the green. Ludwig is 31st. Thorbiornson's 19th. Chipped it a little bit better than Ludwig. although at that same at that same point scrambling

Ludwig's gotten up and down 12 out of 14 times Thorby Ornson 12 out of 18 times Strokes game putting Ludwig is beating him in there to 10th and Thorby Ornson is 21st and then of course in the vaunted feet of putts made I had to pull that one for big Randy Ludwig made 224 feet of putts

Thorby Orson 291 feet of putts but their games are like what just even pulling that that scatter plot that Cody's got up on the board. I mean, it's much more similar than I would have thought. I think I've, like, to your point, I've always maybe, you know, very much a me problem, but I think I've always looked at Thorpe Bjornson as a little more bombing gougy than he actually is. And instead, it's, it's a little bit more like, you know, a longer, you know, a longer, not a straight version of Scotty, right? Where it's like, no, it's a long and he hits a straight.

It's, uh, when the irons are on and the putter's on, it's, that's when he contends. And that's, that seems what's going on this week. Yeah. Seems like the floor is a little bit lower. I mean, really like, looking at Thorpeyonson's season, if he plays just with a little bit more maturity on 16 and 17 at waste management,

he's winning that by a shot or two. Which again, like I know they're different architects. They're different places of the country, but like, man, there's a lot of similarities between two golf courses, too. Like, it does, it would have made sense as a longer shot,

flyer type of, type of pick. So congratulations, anybody who figured that out on Wednesday instead of today. T.C., what did the golf course being there in person today, the kind of golf you saw out there? What was your takeaway from it? It was solid, unspectacular on television. It wasn't, you know, like windy and crazy firm, like carnage that would have hoped, but it looked very, very good in rounding into form.

Yeah, I think, I guess two things. I guess like from a golf course and then from an atmosphere perspective, atmosphere-wise, it's a little flatter than I was expecting. it to be like yesterday felt more like Saturday than Saturday did almost. It's a little subdued and the crowds kind of cleared out around 3.30 or 4.

But as far as the golf course goes, a lot of good whole locations today. I thought the I thought that toured did a really good job. Like second time they've put it right on 16 thus far. That was a great whole location on 9. A great one on 4. Just a lot of spots where... Even the one on 2 TC, like all the way

jammed, jammed all the way back where guys kept getting their, you know, hand in the cookie jar. And that was downwind. Oh, it was great. Yeah. So the wind was pretty steady all day. Didn't really gust or like there were a few gusts kind of, it's more exposed over there, like 11, 12, 13, that little area over there. But otherwise, you know, just kind of steady out of the east, northeast all day.

I thought the, like, I thought the whole locations were, or cool because it was like a total heat check kind of thing. Like it wasn't, you couldn't really get that much momentum going. It was like there was little booby traps everywhere. If you got too frisky with something, it was, there were, there were a couple pins like on slopes or closer to slopes than, you know, it would otherwise. Like you would, like I don't expect that much slope on those greens. They're definitely firming back up. It seems like some of the Bermuda may be kind of popping back out. Like I was talking to a couple guys and they were saying the green is kind of, the grains there if you look for it a little.

bit. Yeah, we heard Austin Kaiser and Zandar talking about landing one down grain into the 12th green from 59 yards where he was. They wanted to land it between 49 and 52 yards because it's downgrade from there. And you can see the shine on it as well. But yeah, the pince in particular on

5 and 14 today where NBC did a good job of covering that of where Cam Young was putting from. We'll talk about him, I'm sure, here in a second. But from the right side kind of center of the green was quite easy to put from. Where Ludwig was coming up with the 13 footer was a ton of slope in that green. We saw JT putt, three putt on that line as well.

We saw a bunch of guys three putting on 14. Anybody that got above the hole on 14 just had a near impossible putt. And we're just not used to seeing that on the PGA tour. We've, you know, talked to a ton of guys. I mean, that's basically, I don't know if it's a written or unwritten rule, they won't put a pin on a slope above 2% on the PGA tour. And, man, it is such a better test of control of your golf ball where you're leaving it, one, and how good you are controlling the ball off the putter face when you putt a piece when you putt you putt you put the pin on some slopes like we saw today. It just, it adds a lot of variety

and a lot of that stuff. I mean, even 18 was, I don't know, maybe a little questionable pin, but it gave us a little variety there at the end. Love to hit two great shots, but then proceeded to three putt that one because it was a pin they hadn't used in 16 years, they said. But there's dust it off.

Uncover it. All these tiny little things, you know, that we complain about and talk about a ton on a week-to-week basis. They just take a little bit more seriously or seemingly take more seriously this week. week. And it just adds up to four days of really good golf viewing and uncertainty of like, dude, if you took a bathroom break during JT's sixth hole today, like you miss out on a lot of fun. And that's everywhere on this golf course. And it's, it's what makes this tournament

better than the other PGA tour events, even if we're not going to do the major thing. No, we are. I'm so glad you're segueing me perfectly into this. No, this is great. I put together a list of things to try to round up a lot of what you touched on here. and we're going to play a game. I don't know if this is going to be stupid or good, but the game is called more major or less major. Okay? And I'm just going to list off a bunch of things that have happened.

And you tell me if they've made the week more like a major or if they've made the week less like a major. Okay. First one we're going to start is... Do you have an agenda with this? Is there an angle you're playing? No, we're just exploring. I don't know if you just exploring.

Nope. You tell me Ludwig taking a three-shot lead into the final round. Just make that make this. feel like more like a major less like a major who I can get a little dig in here and say less because he hasn't he hasn't want a major he's never been in this spot

in a major it makes it feel it's interesting it's interesting he's an outstanding player that makes it feel more like a major if I think definitely more all right you touched on it uh cam young making a double on the last hole on Saturday to fall out of the final group more like a major less like a major honestly less like a major

because a lot of the majors we've had lately like don't have great 18th holes and there's not really a double lurking out there. I think there was only four birdies at 18 or something today. It was a monster finisher. I'd say more because there's been a bunch of major, well, a bunch of Cam Young majors where we can say what if

on. That's true. You probably just cost us 10 minutes of time but you can't get an ad in because you just pissed Cody off, I'm sure. Okay, first timer Michael Thorbiornson playing in the final group. I don't think that feels fluky at all. I feel

like a good enough young player. I agree. You could see that happening at a PGA, U.S. Open. Offsetting. Not more or less. Agree. Okay. A bunch of people in the crowd dressed like Will Ferrell's character from the upcoming Netflix show, The Hawk. More like a major, less like a major. It should be more like the PGA or less like a real

major is what this should be. I'm going to abstain on that. Did you happen to see this, T.C.? I did. A great number of people out there dressed like something, I forget his character's name. Is it Ronnie Hawkins? Isn't Ronnie Hawkins like the guy played with the band? I got to look into this.

We don't care. Yeah. But a friend of ours was out there kind of chaperoning this crew. And I think it was a tough scene. Are these crisis actors? Are these paid? Are these SAG members? I don't know who these people are.

Here's what I'll say. We got to take the bad with the good. There's a lot of good content ideas. things percolating right now. Exactly. And there's going to be some bad stuff. Got to flush some shit out of this system. All right.

It's going to happen. Overall, you don't have to watch it when it comes out. And we can just focus on the good stuff. So listen, that's going to let it slide. All right. We'll keep going. Only two balls in the water on 17.

So I'll say, I'll couch this with, I really, really appreciated them putting the pin back three days. Now they're back right to tomorrow obviously and then it was back two days we only got one day of the you know normal slog fest on 17 with the front pen so that's that's normal though they only usually do it one of the days

oh they always do it they usually do two there's usually like one they didn't last year there was two there was there was two back pens last year I book um and I don't I'd have checked previous years but yeah there was it was it was back on Saturday last year it was up on Friday last year. But this goes in kind of open championship category of like, hey, I can't, you know, you kind of let the conditions dictate. You made an island green and it's got to be playable

somewhat when it blows 30 as well. So when it blows like five, yeah, from like 120, you guys are going to hit the green. Like it just kind of, it's, it's, is what it is. All right, TC, I think you're going to like this one. News stories about a 550 pound tuna being

brought in from Spain. to fill up the $11,000 a ticket players club. Are you familiar with this? And does this make it feel more like a major or less like a major? I feel like they, you know, maybe they would do that at Berkman's or somewhere like that. They just wouldn't tell you. But I don't know if it would, I don't think the story would get out there. That's a good point.

You know? Yeah, there's a lot of stories to get out about Berkman's and stuff written ahead and whatever there. Yeah, but this feels like a planted story. Someone's in there making content. I mean, I don't know. This one just, it grabbed me. This made my less like a major alarm bells go off here. It's a little go.

The same happened at the waste management. This ain't happened at, you know, other tournaments. True. You know? Hard to push $11,000 to ticket type of passes at the travelers, I think. I'm kind of pissed I wasn't there. God, remember when we got those passes slipped to us that one year? One of these years, I'm going to buy some players club passes.

Just sit there at the rob bar all day. All right. CEO interview on a Saturday. More like a major, less like a major. Tough. Is this Roll-up? This is like the new CEO of Optum or something. Yeah, this was Brian Rollout popping into the booth on Saturday of L players. You know what, Dege, I thought it, as long as it's not an annual thing, I thought it played. I think it was a, introduce, you know, a big, wide audience to, you know, that may not have been tuned into the Wednesday press conference.

that you're watching the players, maybe not keeping up on as much of the news. Like PJ Tour under new management, we're changing our structure. He was in and out pretty quick, gave us one little breaking news item. They're going to tear the ropes down on 18 and let fans walk up the 18th Fairway.

That was going to be my next week earlier. Yeah, my take was that why don't they do that for every hole? Like, they're the last people to play the first hole. Drop those ropes, man. Make Ludwig and Thorbiornson sweat a little bit more playing in that final group. I think that'd be good stuff.

But they are dropping the ropes for 18. That was going to be my next bullet point. I don't know if that's more like a major or less like a major, but more like an old school major, maybe. Yeah, I think so. I think that's like I like it. And then the last one was going to be the NBC broadcast today. Did that make it feel more like a major or less like a major?

It doesn't feel this similar from the U.S. Open sometimes. Yeah. I think this is actually still better than the U.S. Open, what they do with that. Definitely better than the Ryder Cup. but I'm a coke head. I needed a line of Coke today. I don't, I don't, I didn't realize how much I needed Gary Coke in my life in terms of

just making it feel a little bit more elevated and like a big deal. And I was missing him today and Raj. And I just feel like they need a more powerful voice in there. There was a moment too at the end. It was just like, again, this is really minor. But JT lined up on 17 on the far right. to the box talking about his club choice with his caddy rev puts his ball down on the grass and then changes his mind gets a tee out and puts it over on the left and they pointed that out that he did

that and i'm like you got two professional golfers oh that's weird tell me why i saw it happen you don't need to like say it out loud that that just tell me why that is i truly don't know the answer of that is he trying to get a little bit more spin maybe from the others you know and teeing it up a little bit Is that going to give you a little bit more spin? And he's going to try to draw. I didn't know the answer to why he did that. That was a really cool little color item that it just doesn't seem to ever really add much to what we're seeing. Other than Bones out on the course is so like just on a golf course that has a ton of consequential stuff going on.

He sets the scene on every single shot really, really well. And you don't even notice it as you're watching it. But it just gives you something to look out for on every single shot. And it's extremely additive. Yeah. Yeah. I totally agree. It's, yeah.

I feel I was, yeah. I was going to say speaking to JT, you mentioned very briefly, but he was undone by a triple on number six, which could have probably been in my more like a major, less like a major, making a triple just on a shot where you got to hit it under a tree off the tee.

It looked a little flummoxed, like he was trying to flight down a driver or something, ended up double crossing it and just pulling it, yards left into that lake, tried to then play back to the fairway, hit another tree, dropped straight down, tried to play up to the green, was blocked out by another tree, had to chip out. It was just a true, true mess, which was pretty electric stuff, but man, gutted it out, gritted it out after that, birdied nine, birdied 11, birdied 16, birded 17, almost

birded 18, almost a rare birdie on 18, but lipped out. And he got it all the way back to what, eight under? I believe, five back going in tomorrow, not dead. I probably would have pronounced him dead on six, but he fought back. I heard he almost cleared the lake left of 12. It was really, yeah, he went way far left on 12. You know what?

I was thinking, you know how often we hear like on, during a lot of tournaments of like, you know, he should play this safe and just punch this out, just chip it out. And it's like not the modern way to play golf at all. I mean, for the most part, when you get out of position, just hack it up as far as you can

or being aggressive usually plays. TBC Sawgrass is a place where it might make more sense than anywhere else to just play out to the farewell. I was that with Cam playing the 18th hole of like, he had to take a drop and you're 200 yards away. You're going to go for the green. So this isn't the best example. But like as soon as you make another mistake,

how behind the eight ball you are of hitting from the moguls in the right rough towards water and a bunker long of that on that shiny of a green, that happened with JT on six as well. well, like taking the drop from the water and you just unlikely are unlikely to pitch out sideways to the fairway. But, you know, clip another tree and up behind another one. And all of a sudden, you are trying to get up at, you know, with his force shot, he's trying to leave it short right of the green to hopefully get up and down for double. It just gets away from you so fast. And the hole could not look easier when you hit the middle of that fairway and then you miss.

And it just, the punishments on this course are what makes it makes it so great. There's a, Neil, Neil talks about credit card holes sometimes. I think this course might be like payday loans. Tough, tough interest rates out there. Yeah. Takumi Kina has got some stuff on layaway than T.C. It's on Klarna.

Cam had a great quote, by the way, too. Like, we'd really get into his round, but kind of fighting it all day, battled it all the way back to two under on the day and just rinsed one at 18, like Sully was alluding to. hit a great shot on 17, almost made it.

His quote afterwards, they said, you know, the shot on 17, can you take us through that? He said, yeah, it was 127, I think. I was trying to land at 133, and I fatted it. It went to a flip. Cam's a sneaky, sneaky good quote, I think, what he wants to be. That was a bummer to see him,

see him light a couple strokes on fire coming down the stretch there. But again, much like a lot of the rest of these guys, not out of it quite yet. Not at all. Talking about 12, like, it was playing dead into the wind. They bumped the T up today. But even then, like, there's just nothing, nothing going on on 12. Guys have made some bad bogeys, but it just feels like you might make a birdie,

you might make a par. It's just connecting 11 and 13. Like, it's, like, I think tomorrow they should bump it up to, like, 275. Like, put them on the front T-box and just put the pin really far left. It was at least interesting TC to see, you know, there were nine waterballs today off the T. There were three total in the first two days just because there was more drivers taking more shots up towards the green. They need to have it on that same T-box tomorrow. They do want, they do have a mix of results from that T.

I mean, a lot of like the great drivable force on the PGA tour are just one-shoters for everybody. Like 15 of Travelers, everybody goes for that, you know, tenant RIV, everybody goes for that now. At least, I'm with you that this is not a good hole, but at least it creates a little bit of uncomfortable. I guess I just still don't know why the fairway wouldn't just be right up against the water. Right. Of like, yeah, if you want to bail right, cool.

And move that green even close to the water. If you're bail right all you want, now you're playing to cross the green down towards that water or you try to hit the fairway off the tee and risk, you know, risk going in the water off the tea. I don't know. That seems a little bit more Pete dies. People putting it in the water, running the risk of putting it in the water, at least one of the days. I don't know what we're doing here. That should be the metric.

I fully agree with you. It looks like the pin's going to be back left tomorrow. Oh, did you just have the same producer in your ear there? Yeah. That's it. T.C. You want to talk about Zander a little bit? Yeah, he stunk.

Zander was in the final group with Ludwig, of course, 37, 37, 74. today for a guy that looked like he was in complete control of his golf ball the first two days led the field and strokes gained approach on the first day he was third on the second day he was 62nd today just just not a good not a good ball striking day from from the x-man what was uh what was kind of your major takeaways from him uh he started on one like he just he spun a like zero spin control with his wedge or, you know, iron into one. He hit a really, really poor chip behind two. Or, you know, short of two goes long.

You know, same thing on four, like bad spin control. He was in those deep mogul, like grass bunkers left of 15, which I want to see more of those around the course. That's such a sick hazard and challenge. the rough gets like so high like this. I mean, he was at the bottom of one of them. They're like four,

four and a half feet deep. Like, it could have been a lot worse, honestly. Like that, that round looked like a 76 or a 77. He had a slippery putt on 13 that if it doesn't sneak in the side door is going 25 feet past.

It's just, it just didn't look comfortable. all day. He, you know, like really bad drive on, on nine, just kind of a spinny poof up the right. And he's just so tentative over the ball and so slow right now. It's like it seems to be getting worse. It definitely got worse as the round went along.

The toe shank on 10 is going to haunt. They did a great job of zooming in on this and getting the shot of where that ball actually shanked off of. That was, that was special. I told you guys Zander wasn't going to win. You guys made me sweat it last night. Come on. Come on.

He did have the blowbyes on and he got blown by. He's still driving it pretty good, which is kind of crazy. Again, we documented earlier this week. I don't know anything about the actual golf swings. I don't know what to look for, but I weirdly still like how he's got it slotted and like how his swing actually works right now. Even if it didn't come out great today, I'm kind of buying Zander in the medium term. over the next couple of months, like,

I'm not going to dismiss him as a major championship threat over the first couple of majors the year. Totally agree. But I also see things like, again, I think Porter had this in his newsletter, but like Austin out there with a tape measure measuring the distance between his feet of the driving range. I'm like, ah, okay.

I've had whiffs of that, man. That's not a fun way to play golf. I don't think we need to. I don't think Scottie's got the tape measure out there. He might have his trade against working out his grip, but I don't know. I don't know. That's what you should be thinking about.

They, on live from, they were saying, because he's hitting it so good right now, they wanted to get the exact measurements of what that was. It's like when people go to TPI, they get the motion. I've hit it great, man. I got to get the motion capture out there. Yeah. That's a producer's telling me that's a Chris Como thing to be measuring that. But it was, I'm still, I'm buying Xander for the medium term for the next couple of months.

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Well, guys, real quick, I was looking at, I was just thinking about Thorpe Bjornson. I'm like, he kind of reminds me of Hovland a little bit. From a statistical perspective. And then there's the Norwegian connection. Is it Norwegian or Icelandic? That is a great question. I'm going to have to check on that.

I do like to lobby for him to be on the European Rider Cup team. But I, but I clicked into Hovlin's. Scandinavia, particularly Norway and Denmark. That's where it's, I, you know, I clicked into Hovlin's stats this week.

Hovlin's number one instructs gained around the green. Hell yeah. Which is pretty jarring. That's a triumph. I love it. 62nd off the T. T.C. I was fired up today.

out of nowhere and I talked to Sully about this Hovlin got into the top five of this tournament and I think we saw two of his golf shots all day. It was embarrassing. I don't know if I saw one. I talked to your guy Tom Roy. Yeah, a bit of a weird one. Made

five birdies today. Burdied two, birdied six, birded 11 and then birdied 1617 to make it interesting. Get to eight under. Also five back going into tomorrow. Like you said, T.C.'s chipping his face off. Don't count him out. I love it.

I love it. Do you have whole locations for tomorrow? Yes, I do. I do. Love to. Let's see here. All right. All right.

One. What do we got? One all the way back to... Back left. Back left. I'm just looking for some interesting ones for people listening. Three, like you could get... It's front left on three or just front on three.

And that little slope short left has been... Two, three, four. That's a birdie. run right there. Those are, those are all, all accessible. Six are accessible. Five is kind of guarded by those two palm trees in the short right. Six is accessible. Seven, there's a little bit of a slope there, right? Down to the right, I think. Yeah. Eight's, eight's back. Eight's pretty accessible. It's kind of what you want. Yeah. And then nine is you're going to have to put some spin on your golf ball. Yeah, that's, that's a little scarier. Nine would be front left for the,

the audio-only listeners. Yeah. We've got 11, the traditional back-right location on 11. 11 rules. That whole's just as good as it gets, man.

Is it playing a little easy? It's been down wind. That's the whole thing. Like, guys are hitting mid-irons in some spots. So I think that's the thing. This wind makes the par fives for the most part easier.

Yeah. It makes everything else harder. Yeah. That's fair. And then, yeah, for like 14, really tough, back left there. It's a creator classic pin, I think. Isn't it Sally? No, it was a little more middle for us.

We made paris down a big deal. That's right. Well, that's right. You hit it back there. Yeah. And all the way back on 18, I love. That's the old school players Sunday, it maybe got a little, a little too cheeky, a little too easy when it was up front left for all those years.

But that one all the way back, back, back on 18 is like, come and get it, guys. What if we showed up tomorrow and there's a new T-box waiting for us on 18? That'd be the dream. That's what, uh, his solid thought he was, thought Rolap was going to announce that today. Rolab said his announcement about the 18th hole tomorrow. I was like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

They're going to put the T up on the hill. They're going to put the T up on the hill. Oh, man. Hey, actually, I had a note, uh, Cody, while I'm setting this up, can you, can you search for the artist? he's he's unfortunately passed away but Christo the artist Christo are you guys familiar with Christo I don't think so okay I'm familiar with where we're going here but I'm not so Chris though so number six I was I was explaining this to a couple guys today number six you got all those great palm trees that that Neil loves I love they're they're awesome I think that

they should do an art installation on number six one of these years where they put up a bunch like these drapes between the trees and then there's some trees that have drapes on them and some not. It would be one of the most provocative things but you're totally like you straight up if you missed the fairway left or you missed the faraway right straight up can't see the hole.

Like you can't see the green. Like you draped this canyon here. Yeah. I see where you're going. I love it. It's kind of how it's played for J.T. today. Then they would get TIO though. You know. Man.

You can even do a transnational. loosen, right? Or you could, you know, or like, you got a perspective. You could, yeah, make, like, make it be deceptive. So, you know, you view it, then it makes it look like the green's actually like 40 yards to the left. Yeah. Well, because I was thinking about it, too, you've got the, the other thing you could do, like, you've got the, the tree there, you know, off the tee where you, like, you've got to keep it low. They could do something where they, they just basically put a big drape in front of the green, or you got to go over it. You got to go high. So it's it's it's testing your trajectory skills.

Where are you guys out on the tree on six? It's sick. It's fucking awesome. I think it rules. It's such a non-factor still. Like, Ricky hit mini driver the other day on it. And like it was close-ish to hitting it, but he was clearly not even trying to fight the ball down.

Like I'm not even convinced you have to fight the ball down. Like, yeah, if you hit like five iron, it might be a problem. Maybe. But I don't think like anyone launching a driver. like yeah if you hit it maybe to the left where it starts to bend down maybe but it's not that low it's a 412 yard par 4 that has some decent width and like it's just like i don't know it's kind of being tongue and cheek about this on the on the slack today but it's like man if you're not down with what they're doing on six you better be down with the rollback right because it's like if

they got to do something man like this is it's it's fascinating and pro golf to see him try to, you know, put up some 3D, uh, 3D hazards. I'm, I could not, could not be more in on it. I think it's, I think it's that or I would tie the shit out of my three would into it, though. So I, for sure. I just, I think as much as it's a non-factor, Sally, like, I also don't think it's a non-factor,

like in people's heads. Sure. People are 100% thinking about it, which is so cool. It's great. Well, and then you got the trees up by the green too. Those are even better almost. Yeah. They know their launch angles so well, though.

you know and you could do the pretty easy calculation of like I would have to dummy mark my whatever club for it to actually hit this branch I genuinely think that and look at it scoring average for this whole for the sixth hole in 2024 before that tree went in 3.954 for the week and so far this week scoring average 4.006 so like it's barely moved at a 10th of a stroke and there's wind and different condition factors in there as well I know but it's it's not moved too much. Something I'd love to see, like when they redo the place in 2028, I would love to see them mess with the scale of certain holes.

Like make like, all right, 17 green looks exactly the same. It's just 20% smaller now. Or six, like add more of those, those leaning trees up by the green and put them eight yards closer together than they currently are.

And you just start, you start messing with, with kind of at the margins there. and you just make it 15, 20% harder. Michael Brennan on number six today hit one 330 yards. He had 80 yards into the green. Like it is very possible to play the golf hole with that tree. I'm going to see.

I'm curious if they have the radar data on that one. We don't even know if that was a driver from Michael Brenner. Right. Scottie hit one 328. He had 83 yards. Yeager hit one up there 325. They were kind of in a class of their own. but yeah, I mean, you had somebody lay, oh, Rory, laid all the way back, he hit it 240 off the T. He had 170 in and made birdie.

It's just sick. There's a, like, if you look at like the kind of scatter plot, there's just a big range of where guys made birdie from, which is awesome. You know, I love it. It just means people are hitting different clubs and figure out different ways to do it. Like, that's kind of the whole point. We've got Ricky and Jordan playing together. I thought we might get, Ricky, Jordan, and Roy are all tied. I thought we might get a Rory Spieth,

but it's Nico Etrabrea and Rory and Ricky and Jordan are back to back. But I noticed this today just kind of looking through where, again, I don't want to divert us into a distance debate other than to say like, this is TPC sawgrass tipped out. Like they're using the back box for every single, like a hole, like 53 out of 54 times so far this week they've used the back T box. Like they moved up 12. The back half of the back T box.

Correct. They've moved up 12. That's in. that's it. Like they don't have, you know, all the little tweaks they've done. They don't have, you know, more distance to pull out. They could make a couple holes longer if they wanted to, but I'm saying there's still just no optionality. Like they have to play it as far back as possible to give these guys the ultimate test that they can. And I think a future world where you have some flexibility in T's would be, would be better for, for championships like this.

Well, can I do a little celebration of the fourth hole here? I know a hole that I think all of us, all of us absolutely love. And I think, uh, I've just pulled the numbers from it today because you talked about it earlier, I saw, but Ludwig, uh, missed the fairway there. And that was the one of the moments where I like, I leaned in closest to the TV, which is just like, oh, hell yeah, like what's about to happen. And I know it makes the test, I don't know. It just makes the test very objective, right? Like, are you going to hit the fairway? Are you not going to hit the fairway? Uh, but at least it's something. At least it is like, at least you can see the consequence and you have context and you know why the hole is playing the way that it is.

And there's still like, there's still plenty of width, I think, to find the fairway. You know? Oh, and that, not even that. That fairway's angled a little bit. So it is very deceptive as to what your actual line is going to be. And your line's going to be different based, depending on what club you pull. And there's actual decisions to be made as to what you're hitting there. A lot of holes like that can become, let's hit driver.

We're going to hit it down there. Even if it gets in the rough, we're okay. and that is absolutely not one. I think it's one of the best holes in the state of Florida. I totally agree. It's becoming one of my favorite holes on the PJ tour. And it played 374 yards today, comically short for a par four on the PJA tour.

Played to a stroke average of 4.055, almost dead even. 17 birdies, 38 pars, 15 bogeys, and three doubles. The field played it in four over par today. Solly, there's the angle that you're talking about if you were watching it on the screen. I wanted to ask you guys, what's like a, if you could have your way on the PJ tour, on a hole like this, what would be the driving accuracy percentage that you would want to see? Like what would be like a number that you're like, this many players should hit the fairway? I would say, I mean, like today was downwind. Yep. So for that to play above par, downwind is wild. This is a 370 yard hole. I would say 55%. Yeah, I don't know.

I want to say 58, but I have no idea what it was. So you guys are kind of really in the, in the ballpark. Because the reason I pointed out is like, because that is the test. Like everybody is standing on that T-box saying like, I have to hit this fairway. And so I just think it's interesting with like a decent amount of width with a short hole. When hitting the fairway is the priority for the best players in the world, 56% of them, 41 out of 73. hit the fairway, which I think is, and if you see there, there's everybody that made a birdie today. And what do you notice about those balls? That's crazy. Let's pull everybody that made a bogey.

What do you notice about those balls? Right? It is every one of them is, you know, everybody who made a birdies in the fairway. Pretty much everybody who made a bogey is in the rough, which is just awesome. And so if you look at those 41 people, 41 out of 73 that hit the fairway, almost 80% of them hit the green. It's not a hard hole from the fairway. But if you look at the 32 people that missed the fairway, four of them hit the green. And a lot of that's because like a lot of guys are laying up. A lot of guys are, you know, not even like they know how hard it is and they know how much the rough is turned up. But it just is we saw it with Ludwig laying up from how often is Ludwig laying up from 133 yards on a par four?

You know, and it's just it's just a brilliantly designed hole. And I think it's a example of one, you know, we bag on like super duper thick rough. And I know this is not a one or a zero on that regard, but it's a great instance, I think, of super duper thick rough making a hole that much better and helping like the brilliance of it kind of shine through. Thick rough on a good design can help accentuate the features of it. Thick rough on a weak or lazy design can just make for a very dull four day farmer's insurance open. That's what that's what happens. Totally agree. But it just, yeah, that kind of hit me as I'm watching today. It's like, Every team shot on four, I'm just like, I'm just truly invested on, is this going to hit the fairway or not? Because I'm going to, I'm going to be pumped. And again, it's like you, you're looking for things to grab you in the broadcast.

It's like when we get there tomorrow, that's going to be a moment. There's no bathroom break on four. I'll take a bathroom break on five. I don't like, you know, I kind of, five, you better pound. You're going to pound it either way. And you hit, either hit a great drive or you don't. Four is kind of like, you're not going to pound it either way. and you really better fucking hit the fairway.

Like that's a really, really, really good stat. Yeah. Speaking of Tori, we've got two guys in the final group. We both love Tori. Love Vig and Thor Bjornson. Do you want to talk about Thor Bjornton? You guys did a little stuff at the first timers press conference. Yeah, I don't want to.

A couple of those guys put a bony finger right in your chest. He's had some of their favorite horses. Quail Hollow, Baltis for all. Quill Halle, Appreciators, Bay Hill Appreciators. I mean, like, I actually respect Dorsey v. Orison for saying Bay Hill because it's hard. Most guys don't like it. So I think that's, I don't know, I guess respect for that one.

But guys, guys, guys, we're talking about Bay Hill. We still haven't even gone through like who is left in the top five of this tournament so far. Yeah, sure. I need to reclaim going down the leaderboard after Neil's debacle last night. That's a very good call. But the rest that's in there that we have. haven't mentioned so far, Brian Harmon, little Corey Connors, and of course,

Matt Fitzpatrick. I don't know where you want to start at, Sully. Yeah, I do. Matt Fitzpatrick, not a great course history at TPC Sawgrass, but we all know he writes down a lot of stuff, gets a lot of information, and tracks a lot of his stats, and has been able to build on that, and is now T4

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I haven't been able to play golf lately because of the wrist injury, and I'm missing doing this. I'm missing tracking all my stuff. This thing made me want to go play more golf. That's the highest compliment I can pay to it. Man, we had like a 65-degree day, 62-degree day last week. I'm charging my Arcos. I'm like, oh, my God, it's about to happen.

and it's going to just sleet for like two straight days. You have to the dub club? No, I didn't. That's what I'm saying. I need to. I got three things on the back of that ad read, actually. Fedora 5. First of all, Moulinari, owning your stuff.

I tell you who wasn't owning his stuff. Kegan, can't stop thinking about it. His quotes of just... We let him have it last night, too. Bill just shook, yeah. And then two, Arcos needs to add a, like there's the, you know, you versus a scratch, you versus a tour player. That's, you versus a meal.

And then, what was he going to say third? Oh, Fitz. Like, I've always wondered, like, why Fitz hasn't played well here. Because, A, like, Harbour Towns his favorite course in the world, that's obviously Pete die. And then B, like, it's just, yeah, he's just good driver of the golf ball and very analytical and disciplined and all of that. I've never figured out why this place hasn't suited him.

It should have been, you know, like he should be pinching up against the final group there, if not for that double on 18. I was going to say he was. He got it to 10 under with a birdie at 16 and 17 and then just gave him both back on 18 with some slop, which is unfortunate. I'm kind of blend.

He is hit or miss at TPC Sawgrass. He was T9 in 2021 and finished fifth in 2024, but also missed cuts in 22, 23, and 24. 5. T.C. you want to do a little kind of a joint down the leaderboard?

I know you're flying around. You kind of just watching the final group today. So you know, if you have, if you need help, you shout for it, brother.

Brian Harmon. I just T4. I want to just say, didn't see a lot from him. Yeah. I watched him play two holes before a lot of teed off. It hit just like I thought he was going to hit it.

in the right pond on one. Like just a squirly little tea shot. He's 12th and strokes gained off the tea this week. Oh. You know, little Brian Harmon. Wow. He's just like the little engine that could. Is that there might be a little bit of Ludwig.

He can probably hit driver where other guys are not hitting driver type of stuff in that. For sure. Yeah. So it's just like me going out like I find TPS to Sawgrass easier from the 100,000 yard teas and 6400 yard teeth. 100%. Yeah. Who among us? Like Cory Conner's like, can we just mark you down for like a 71 or 72 tomorrow and write you a check for like 600K?

We're good here. Like we're good, man. Like I know you're going to miss about four putts inside of eight to 12 feet that would, you know, maybe get you into the mix and you're just going to go away very, very quietly. He is leading the field and strokes game approach. He's ball striking it per usual. There was a line on I think it was Golf Central this morning

and I'm a massive overhauser guy so I don't mean to say this the wrong way but he said something about Corey Connors you know when he gets the smell of that lead he usually plays pretty well and I was like does he? I don't know about that which I think actually like I see what he's going for because I don't think he wins

but he does he doesn't like explode it just hangs around. It just hangs around so I think maybe that's what our guy AO was going for but it definitely caught on the back of my you know, the back of my mind there. I feel for those guys that got to make storylines for sure. All 100 plus

of these dudes. 100%. Which is there like a Tommy Roy? Is he obligated, like contractually required to show every guy in the field? It was like I heard there was a Lee Hodges drive. There was like multiple Lee. I saw more Lee Hodges shot today, T.C. than I

did of Hovland. And Graney was playing with Bridgman, who was on a heater, but it was very confusing. And on the weekend, no, but they always do that Thursday, Friday, like, you know, we'll show you if you're in the field kind of thing. It's like the U.S. Open. Like they show all, you know, whatever. Big shot, Bob. Round of the day.

Nine birdies today. Yeah. You know, love to see it. Love to see it. He's played well here before, I think, right? Yeah. He's driving it well. He's putting it well.

Iron play leaves a little bit to be desired. but players is a good one good one too where it's like you you know you go 65 68 on the weekend is like oh you're going to make about a million and a million and a million dollars it's a good time to do that

yeah if you're right now if you are T10 you're projected to make $581,000 this week if you are you got to go all the way to T43 before you don't make 100 grand

gosh what about uh saw it What did he do today? I didn't fill me in there. What he did? Murray was out there with Juju.

Yeah, just kind of once the heat got off, TC, he was super comfortable and, you know, ball striking it as he, as he's wanted to do. Yeah, total vindication.

Neil bet me on him being top 10 and strokes getting approached by the end of the week. He's back up in the, he was fourth today, and now seventh in the field overall strokes getting approach. Watch this space.

I think Neil should have cashed that one out after Friday. uh, Bridgman. I thought you got a little, I think Bridgman's a really, really fine young player. The fact that you guys were talking about him in the,

in the dudes. Don't say you guys. I thought that was pretty reckless. I was giving up a dude status to three people. All right. And this was my, this was my thing. All right.

And you all got way too reckless, way too quick with it. Neil's trying to make it a fraternity rush thing and like make it a vote thing. And no, way too reckless. The dude thing is, like a semi-permanent label. The three are just Scotty, Rory, and Romb?

Right now, yes. And God, and God, Ruff. No, he refused to bring up. No, I know. He's not. He's not a dude. My only point was going to be just in an absence of dudes, but there's no dudes guarding the door. Maybe Bridgman comes in and just kicks down the door,

winning two signature event. Like, he looked fucking good on the front nine, T.C. I thought he was going to, then he wobbled on 10. He wobbled on 11. You know, I ended up saving par. but I thought he was going to get it back on the rails. That was going to be his little storm cell that he had to get through. And he just, yeah, he didn't.

He lost the putter down the stretch too. He's 66th. He's 66th and Shooks gained approaching the green. I know. 66. Yeah. He had to have some pretty big minuses. Like he just, you know, that's obviously going to be a blend of a lot of things.

But I'm guessing he had some lost half shot or more. If he finishes T-10, he goes up to. first in the FedEx Cup. He's playing so good, man. I was pulling some of those stats and sending me guys earlier. The strokes gained over the last three months is like, what did I say? It was Scotty, Jake Knapp, Bridgman,

and then Rory, I think. Yeah. They've been the best players in the world. It's been a very real thing. And it just feels like, God, too early, I guess. Who are the, sorry, who are the three dudes? Rory, Scotty, and.

And Rom. If Ludwig wins tomorrow, I think. Ludwig's a dude because I think he's going to win Augusta. Okay. I think he wins tomorrow and Augusta. I think we can definitely do that. The point is the point is that like even

look at somebody like Ben Griffin last year who had an unbelievable year. Like I would have still been hesitant to make him a dude and like now he's just kind of blending back he's still a very good player but he's kind of bending blending back in with the crowd. Bridgman's kind of so far this year's

Ben Griffin and I hate that but I think you're right. Right? You can have an unbelievable year. Be remarkably town. Are you a dude that we're going to think about with this era 10 years later? Was the point of that conversation? I didn't give it out to Bryson right now because I kind of don't know which direction Bryson's trending and he doesn't have the same floor that Rom has.

You see him fall in that bunker? Even if he wasn't, you would have got. Looks his plan tough right now. And look, I'm going to make a rule when I call you a dude. I'm not allowed to remove you for a year. Like you got to stay there for you. So I got to be confident for a year. Was Xander a dude?

He was a dude. And he's like, you did your dude diligence on the, Sandra passed the dude diligence. But he got hurt. Yeah, if you can't pass a physical, you're,

you're like an insurer. I mean, you're able to take it away. You play on a medical status on the dude list for a while. And then, yeah, I can decide. How many starts?

How many starts does he have left to get, to get fulfilled his major medical? I got three. Three starts left that I got to make a decision on it. Like it did help today. I'll tell you that. We should have the party doctor.

Make the, make the assessment. The overall point, though, was like, if we looked at 10 years back, weren't there more dudes than there are right now? Totally.

The genesis of that conversation. Okay. All right. A couple more. A couple more. Yeah. Oaks. Yeah.

Just T-T. 10. Not a great day from him. Not a great thing from him. I don't know how he's, how he's in the top 10. Because he's, his floor is so high.

He's just driving it like, shit he's a plow horse that's crazy uh all right we got bill mal William mal yeah love it right earlier this week

these guys thought that William Mao was Chinese just like I kept calling him the chairman yeah that's on me I don't know I didn't watch the isco close enough was not familiar with his game first born was lit last year yeah he's got the cat man on the bag

yeah I love it pop pop up in the uh in the uh And the first timers, really you guys did. Some great content. He's great. He's great. Big fan of Bill Mao. God, team was so involved for a second there, T.C.

And he just punted it away. He really sat behind us in traffic for 10 minutes this morning. Did you get to meet the weekend today? I did. Yeah. Actually, I was sitting on the first tee. Or, you know, like near the first tee. And you got all the honorary observers.

And I'm talking to. I'll help the first T announcer and the weekend comes up and he just introduces himself to literally everybody in like the general of a senator. There's probably 20 people. I am real. I am real.

Like just what a, what a delightful guy. He was. That is real. He's a SUNY for those that do not know who the weekend is by Chish. Yeah. Honestly, round of the day for me,

like I saw him play three holes. Sudarshan, Yellow Marajou. Marajun. Must credit the preview pod. We were tipping this one, big T.C. He's a clean card club 66. If he does it again tomorrow, he'll probably triple his career earnings one day. Yeah, just like he's got speed.

He's got, he's like impressive. Like, I want to see this guy on the President's Cup team. He's, he's the anti, like he's easy antithesis of the, he's boring. Canadian golfers that have that have sprung up on the President's Cup team the last few years. I don't think, I don't know if he's got a bunch of personality or he's gregarious or anything like that, but his game speaks for itself. He's got, he's got, he's got the minerals. So I've been impressed with this guy all year. He's, he's mid-60s in the FedEx Cup and as a rookie, which is really tough to do, like to come out and like not get that many starts. It'd be 66.

after there's been a few signature events now. So all good. Joseph. He's got speed, man. He's got a lot, a lot of speed. I want to watch a couple holes. He's,

yeah, he's 11 and a half yards longer than, than average on tour. And he'd pop one out there. They had the track man up when they, when he's playing the fourth hole in practice runner this week. Just three, easy three wood,

one, ball speed with three wood on, on four. Yeah. I'll say Joseph, from the Friday, he had a great little essay about, about him and his backstory and his backstory and

parents and how he got them in the game and it was uh that was great on the friday uh instagram i think um guys uh i didn't see anything from kegan or brooks today uh a little disciplined in mav yeah mav and henley both kind of felt like they you know could have could have helped their dude dude cases uh you know there's still ways off but it could have at least gotten interesting and kind of missing missing people on this weekend which kind of stinks we got My lineup, guys. My lineup is getting crushed. Got to mention Scottie's shooting 68.

Good little press session. Was he? Was it? It was 67. 67. I stand corrected. Only two guys beat him today. Yeah.

Macintyre, Gellum, Marajum. Good press session afterwards. T.C. said he's working hard on his attitude. Proud of how he acted. Yeah, genuinely. He was proud of how he acted this week, even on days when he didn't have it. which I thought was, you know, just funny considering our conversation. But it was just, I don't know, we've said this a couple times, but it bears repeating.

For all the Scotty's boring, Scott, he's boring, Scott he's boring. When you get him with a good question, you get him talking about the right stuff, he's, like, he's brilliant. And it's really fun to listen to how he approaches, just, I don't know, try to get little peaks into his mentality, I think is always fun. You know, I feel like every time he gets asked a question, it's always like, oh, you know, what a disappointment this week, huh? You know, T-25, like, must be, you must be furious. He just, like, never takes the bait on that stuff. He never, for better or worse, he's almost psychopathic about how he never admits anything's wrong, you know, like, people like, oh, you know, you're grinding on the range and the rain. Did you find it? He's like, well, that would, like, imply that I lost it.

I don't think I lost it. I noted that one, too. That was great. He's talking about, like, his expectations, like, my expectations, like, I'm telling you are not to win. I don't care about that. I'm just, I'm truly like every shot. Did I give my best on every shot? And most of them, yeah, I did. I didn't really have it, but I, you know, I put myself in position. I did everything I could. I'm like, that's so hard to do and really good stuff.

He noted in his presser afterwards or his comments afterwards too. Like he was asked what he's going to do between now and the Masters. He said undecided on that. Yeah, that was interesting. I don't know. I don't know how that times up with him, them expecting baby number two as well. I don't know what the actual due date of that one would be. It's worth mentioning that in terms of what we are expecting for him from the Masters.

And if we end up with a pager storyline at Augusta, which... True. I'm surprised I've been a reporter to ask about that. I don't know if that's a kosher thing. I would think it would be as it relates to your profession. Yeah. It's probably got her up T20. No, I got a couple more.

Got her up T26, 68 today. are they playing together tomorrow? Scottie playing with tomorrow. I can get you that. While you're doing that, we got Akshay and Minwu, also T-26, Jason Day. Scottie Mav. Scottie Mav. Keith Mitchell, saw him out there.

It was expected a better day from him, but continues to just be the best-dressed guy out there and, like, it's not even, like, remotely close. Keith and Tommy tomorrow, T.C. I have to go, I have to go early and follow that one. Tommy didn't have it. I will say I watched 10 groups T off of one. He had by far the most proper trajectory and light on his drive.

That's cool. I truly think that he's, I truly think Neil was, Neil was right last night of like, you know, he was dumping on a little bit. He made a triple on 10, which is less than ideal.

He blew one miles right on 10. I think Tommy's just Biden is, he's trying to charge the batteries right now. he's going to he's going to he's got shinnicock and burkdale those are two two places that are exceptional for him summer he is uh he's also putting like shit tc which is he which is which is concerning yeah um i mean i guess the good news bad news you know it's like is he's driving it all right he's he's hitting his irons he's doing the other pommie fleet with things uh fairly well but yeah just putting abysmally what was this 64th out of 73 right now um

something to watch what else we got we got j t posting you know came back from that first round 76 he's i think we're hitting the bottom of the the bottom of the wall here yeah i think come on i think we want to throw any shots at the kummi canaya uh

dFL yeah well he made the cut he's not dFL the guy's the guy's the he's dFL the guys have made the cut i was going to say just a you know just a big hell yeah for jordan speed 76 today. He's close. It's close.

That was frustrating. But what are you going to do? He also tripled 10. Yeah. A lot of that going around, huh? Sali, he hit it over by where you did on off the tea. Hey, careful, man. All right. You can rally.

Guys, that's, thank you, T.C. You threw a lot of names there. And I want to know one thing. It was very conversational, though. It was. How far back is too far back? Hmm. Seven under is too far back.

Okay. As always, this question is always who far back is too far back as well. Big Bob, great round today. You're out. You're out. Sorry.

Book an early flight. I think. God, there's just not a lot of guys that scare me all that much. I think minus 10 is too far back. just game over. Well done.

You just think game over? I'm going to say eight. I'm going to say eight's too far back, Sully, or Cody, rather. I think it's going to be Ludwig, Thorbi Orn Center Cam Young. And as I say that out loud, I'm like,

it's going to be Ludwig. It is, but like I think a hovander or JT or even Zander could shoot 65 tomorrow. Like the pit, there's, there's birdie opportunities tomorrow.

Like, Ludwig is going to have to make some birdie still tomorrow, I think. I also, I also think he's also like lunching on the par fives. Yeah. The only thing I'll say is like we don't forget that we've been talking all week about how much this is a different test, a proper test, all of those things like that 65 tomorrow is not the same as 65 the last like 10 years. Like I do think that's it's a harder golf course right now.

Right. I mean, it's like it just doesn't take much to get off and make a bogey and kill one of those runs. But I mean, Robert McIntyre shot 65 today. like it's it's out there it can happen again with easy pins on kind of two three four like i just they're not it's not set up tomorrow for carnage it's they're they're they're setting up for some birds and some and some and some roars tomorrow t's got a little earlier tomorrow they 140 last group i imagine uh that is something to do with there's some potential weather coming in sunday night and monday does not look good so leaving a window for if there is a playoff uh you got to get it in sunday night yeah monday looks

Actually, tomorrow looks better than it did, say, 12 hours ago. It was showers in the morning and then likely thunderstorms in the afternoon. Now it's saying mostly sunny and then a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 80s. We got a big cold front rolling in on Tuesday, too. So they got this thing in on time. Yeah.

But yeah, I hope they don't set it up gimmicky or soften everything too too much to make it super, easy to chase tomorrow. I don't think that'd be fair to Ludwig. I don't think they were. Especially after he got the bad bad end of the draw. I think they're going to stay consistent. I think they've, I need more bravery out of you than that with Ludwig. Come on. 18 got the bad end of the draw too.

If Ludwig was three back, you would say literally the exact opposite. You'd say, I hope they set up for birdies and don't just make it so, you know, Brian Harmon could take there are birdies out there. I just don't want to see you know, Ripper Magoos everywhere. And double ripper magus. I was talking to Aaron Price. He was like, yeah, there was a triple ripper for goos.

There was a double, like a double ripper on one hole of balls spinning and then really catching the grip and then and then accelerating the spin front. I'm not sure that scientifically checks out, but I think that probably moves us somewhere closer to rapid. I think so too. Speaking of Ripper, T.C., I know the final round of Liv Singapore is getting underway here. 17 minutes. Got to get you out of here to go watch Ripper GC and keep us posted on Centosa. You're going to be doing the rhino dance or whatever that is? The rhino jive.

The rhino jive. I may have to do that. We know T.C.'s in the bucket with Ludwig. Solly, who do you got? I love him's going to win for sure. That's big of you. Cody, I think Ludwig is going to win as well. But if it's not him, I think it's, uh, my,

I think it's Cam Young. Why not? That would have a, well, that would be a blast. You'd love to see it. You're pandering to Cody. Well, my upload speed is going to be slow. So I know Cody's, I know,

trying to give Cody's positive note to end on. By the way, guys, we didn't touch on it. And like, not a, not a lighthearted subject, but not. Kind of a weird morning, as far as, you know, delayed the gates opening till, till nine, delayed hospitality opening until 11.

There was a shooting at the wall, greens down the street from CPC sawgrass and then I guess the guy what came on to property stole a BMW and they found him 30 or 40 miles away up in Callahan but but yeah kind of like I was I live pretty close to A1A and I could hear all the I think that happened about 1030 last night and I could hear I was just laying on the couch decompress and I could hear all the the sirens going by I mean you know for for a good hour and they had the helicopter out there and all that stuff. And then heard also that there was a drunk guy

tried to drive his car onto the golf course in the late night, early morning hours last night. It kind of got overshadowed by the other stuff. But, but I, you know, all that to say, I think at no, like talking to some of the St. John's County Sheriff guys out there today, like at no point was there any, any sort of, like they had tracked this guy up north to, you know, closer to the Georgia border.

And at no point was it. was it like, you know, 5 a.m. And they're like, oh, this guy's still a TPC sawgrass. Like they, they kind of figured out he was no longer on property. Yeah, the statement was kind of, kind of vague, but it probably for a reason, like of, you know, you put the statement out and you say that there was somebody loose on the property, then the confusion and panic can set in. And it, you know, it was, it seemed to be of handled this as well as it possibly could have.

But that's extremely, extremely rare for the area. I mean, I don't think. I think it was the first, first, like, murder in. St. John's County. And like, I don't think there was a single one last year. I don't think there was either. It was, yeah, very extremely unfortunate. But, yeah.

Yeah, came in contact with multiple PJTor employees and stole a radio and dropped the radio at some point. It was just a very, very bizarre. I guess the reason they, the reason they got, you know, still let it shut down until nine was crime scene stuff. Sure. not necessarily danger to the public. So there were some pretty irresponsible tweets out there early this morning

that were not productive, I would say. I would agree with that, T.C. Well, guys, on that note, I think we wrap it, huh? Get ready for a thrilling final round tomorrow. I guess the question is, do you think Ludwig wins by more than two? Like, is it a coronation coming down the stretch? Do you think it is? How about you start?

I think it is. I think it is. I do not think so. I think it's going to be a little more stressful tomorrow than maybe it felt at times today. I think he wins by at least two. There's too many gators out there can jump up and just bite you and keep things interesting. Unless he goes out and earns it. I mean, I would love to see him go and win by seven and just leave no doubt.

But that's not really how it usually goes at this tournament. So we will see. I think it's going to be tight. I think he wins by, I think he wins by one or two. It's a great, great final round golf course. We see a lot of good, good action. And, you know, there are golf courses that, you know, a three shot lead going to the final round,

I would not be nearly as excited to watch what's going to happen as I am this one. Because there's just, as we've seen last three days, a ton of mystery on every single shot. So, great, great week. Well, guys, before you wrap it, can I ask everyone to hit that subscribe? Yes, please hit the, so try button, give it a thumbs up. And for the love of God, please stop doubling the 18th hole.

That's all I ask. Come on, Cam. I got an open Cam Young ticket. I would not hate if he came back and won it tomorrow. That'd be quite nice. Cam, if you're listening, and you're thinking about whether or not the way tomorrow. Just go ahead. Go ahead.

I already texted him and told him. So he knows. He knows. I thought you'd want to be aware. All right. Well, guys, thanks for another good one. Cody, thanks for running the ones and twos. shout out to our friends at Titleist.

High Noon and Arcos. We'll see everybody back tomorrow. I think five wide tomorrow for the final round show. And I can't wait to hopefully, yeah, hopefully crown our beautiful Scandinavian boy tomorrow. I would love nothing more. Guys, tomorrow's Josh Elliott Day.

That's right. That's right. Yeah, perhaps, you know, everything will change. Perhaps nothing will change. We will find out tomorrow, guys. Cheers. Crack on.