No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1132: Cam Young wins The Players
Episode Date: March 16, 2026Birdie on 17 and a closing 68, Cameron Young (-13) is your 2026 Players Champion. Matty Fitzpatrick (-12), Xander Schauffele (-11), Robert MacIntyre (-10), Sudarshan Yellamaraju (-9), Jacob Bridgeman ...(-9), and Ludvig Åberg (-9) rounded out the top of the leaderboard. What a day for Cam Young. We break down what this win means, what unraveled for Ludvig on Sunday, and what Matty Fitzpatrick let slip away. Plus, notable names further down the board and more. Elsewhere, Bryson DeChambeau won LIV Singapore in a playoff over Richard T. Lee, while the 4Aces ran away with the team title. Hannah Green captured the Women’s Australian Open, becoming the first Australian in 12 years to win her national open. Presented by Titleist. Support our sponsors: Titleist - #1 Ball in Golf High Noon - Sun's Up! AT&T - Connecting Changes Everything Get Your Money Right at https://www.sofi.com/nlu Players Championship Giveaway: https://subscribe.nolayingup.com/march-giveaway-2026 Looking to travel this year, check out East Sands Golf Co.: https://www.eastsandsgolf.co/nlu Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Ladies and gentlemen,
welcome back to the Nolanga podcast,
presented by our friends at Titleist.
My name is DJ.
We got a full,
full house of players championship appreciators today
to break down a world where Cameron Young
is your players champion.
what a what a what a day what a week can't wait to get into it first and foremost with my guy
nobody's had a bigger week than him even Cameron young first he pronounced o's right
cam young was his was his pick to win this week before the tournament neal schuster neal how we doing
man can you keep it rolling for another 18 holes here how people are asking how does he do it
i'm ozing with with swag right now i'm feeling fantastic randy how are you i'm feeling great
Neil. I heard my favorite
team's name called for the NCAA
tournament, so I'm driving with you
right now. Of course.
The energy is electric. Of course
Sully. Salenberger is here. Hello,
Sallie. Hey, not only did
Neil call it, he told us again on Friday night.
Excuse me. Like,
don't count, don't count out Cameron Young.
He threw in another reminder. And he had some
actual nuggets on Cameron Young to win
this week as well. I mean, just have
a week. And of course,
last, but not
least, fresh off getting some serious steps out there at TBC Sawgrass today.
T.C. How are we, how we feeling, my man? Uh, we're feeling tired. I think I've done about 30,000
steps the last three days. And it seems that people are out for blood in the comments. I mean,
people are just vicious stuff, even more vicious than the, than the crowds out of Sawgrass,
call it the jingoism out there was they have pitch force out, T.C. They want your head.
How did it come to this?
You can't understand how this climate got so charged.
You know, who's been using all this language?
Reven all these people up.
It's crazy.
I'm surprised Keegan wasn't, you know, running down,
opening up the ropes behind that group within America.
Oh, come on.
Kegan would have benched Cam Young.
Come on.
Well, we got a lot to get into, Sally.
Before we do, who we got to hear from?
Yeah, we're going to break down all the birdies and bogeys.
But got a cool equipment nugget for you guys on Cameron Young.
Of course, you know we always, always talk about the importance of getting fit,
how big of a role the golf ball plays in it.
The order in which you get fit also matters.
Titles always says fit the golf ball to the irons and then fit the top end of the bag to the ball.
So a really good example here.
Kim's been super dialed in with the ProV1X prototype golf ball that he moved to last summer,
which dialed in his flight, his spin with his irons,
and it was the perfect recipe for his approach to play.
but he had to work with the tour team to make some adjustments off the tee to optimize his carry distance.
Last week at Bay Hill, he moved to an 11-degree GT3 driver,
lofted down to 10.25 in the D-1 setting,
which helped raise his launch without jacking up the spin,
proceeded to hit the longest drive in the Shotlink era history.
I'd venture to say there were no drives pre-shotlink that went 375 yards on the 18th hole as well.
Earlier in the season, he also moved into the higher-launching,
GT-1-3
fairway wood and
GT-1-20-degree hybrid.
So a completely different setup than what he's playing in
2025. All goes to show.
Go get fit. You never know what you're going to end up in.
The experts dial you in and trust the process.
And yeah, head to Titles.com to find a fitting near
you. Don't just check your ego at the door.
Trust the numbers.
Cameron Young's playing 11-degree driver and a high-launch
fairway hybrid. Like that might be different
than what he would have thought he would be in. If he can play it,
you can play it.
and go to Titles.com to find a fitting near you.
It's the same exact setup as TC.
That's right.
That's right.
Guys, around the globe, around the world of golf,
Cameron Young, your winner at the Players by one over Matt's Fitzpatrick.
Bryson wins in a playoff over Richard T. Lee over at Lynn,
live Singapore.
TC's Ripper GC also got pipped in the team contest there.
And Hannah Green, your winner at the Aussie Women's Open down in Adelaide as well.
Well, of course, we're going to start with Cameron Young, his second PGA tour, victory after last year's, Windham Championship, final round 68, one off the round of the day.
Birdie on 17 was electric.
The T shot on 18, you mentioned, Sully, but Neil, we got to start with you, man.
What's going through the mind?
How are we feeling?
What do you love about Cam Young?
Well, I mean, he's got loud traits.
It's a term Randy throws around, I think, baseball related.
Not always in control, but the talent has always been undeniable.
The swing is unique.
It's like loud traits with a quiet guy.
So he just kind of doesn't say much.
And then, you know, but then he does a press conference after the round.
He's just really, really thoughtful.
And so I've always been intrigued with Cam Young.
And this was a statement win for him.
And it's not easy.
Like you think about the adventure on nine.
You think about what he did on 16.
God, man, if we could just harness some of this.
you know, some of this oomph.
Like, and then he's kind of getting himself out of jail, though, the last, I'd say, what,
six, 12 months with the putter.
And so, you know, but the, the, he's kind of all over the ballpark.
And he didn't really take the reins.
I think the decisive shot for me today was 16, uh, when he had that, uh,
fried egg in the bunker.
And to get that out, really good splash out and two putt there.
I think that settled them down.
And then, you know, obviously the shot on 17 is like that, you know, the one you'll,
you're going to see on the replays, but I almost feel like him getting out of jail on 16 is what
freedom up to do what he did on 17. But I mean, for most of the front nine, like nobody really
wanted this thing. It was just kind of, it was getting a little sleepy there until Ludwig
vaporized himself on 11. And we are going to get to that. And then he stepped up. And then he stepped
up. He felt like he battled. Like he kind of got a lot of things on, on 13. And, yeah, it's just really
impressive to see him go out and get it. But he said, I felt like he stepped on the gas at the end.
And it didn't feel like anybody was really stepping on the gas throughout the day. I guess is the point I'm making.
A couple of things from his press conference. If anybody missed it, he first of all talked about how great he drove it last week and how, you know, he was a little out of sorts with, you know, off the tea this week until that back nine when it finally clicked.
I loved, Neil. I know you had to write this in your notebook too. I loved his, his, uh, his, he was a, he, he was. He, uh,
him going through his process on 18T.
He was talking about his two swing thoughts that he had.
He said, the first thing I needed to do is just stay completely committed to my line.
The second thing that went through my head was just telling myself, I'm about to hit the best shot of my life.
And somebody asked him like, oh, do you like tell yourself that all the time?
He's like, no.
It's like the first time.
He's like, I don't know why.
He's like, I've never really been in that situation where I'm like, you know, tied for the lead on the last hole.
He's like, you know, the other time I won, I was way behind.
And he's like this.
I don't know.
that just popped in my head.
I don't think I've ever thought that before.
And I just stepped up.
I love that.
Yeah.
The last thing I'll say is like it, it's always fulfilling to watch somebody fulfill big time potential.
It's like in real time, it's like we just watch the guy step up and do it.
And he didn't, it kind of in a statement way.
So I don't know.
It was, yeah, it was a really fun end of the day.
I think that's right.
I think the, yeah, like it's like seeing it happen before your very eyes.
And I think on the heels, too, I think Cam's even more interesting because he finished with that weird double yesterday.
And he seemed really unbothered and unfussed by it.
Like he was just laying with his family on the grass next to the media center last night after round three.
And he, like he had just doubled and seemingly cost himself, you're both a spot in the final pairing as well as just, you know, being what?
he was four back or five back going into the day to day.
Four.
And,
yeah,
and he was just really unbothered by it and unburdened,
it seems like.
And then,
yeah,
like I was,
like I had ejected finally from Ludwig's group once.
They were on 16T.
And I was like,
all right,
I'm going to go up to 16 green.
And I got,
you ejected.
Oh,
we,
yeah,
we both ejected.
It was like goose and Maverick together.
And then scovie was,
was there with this,
too.
He told them in the pond.
He's got a,
he's got a,
yeah.
the helicopter. That was bad. But no, I was, I was standing right there for, or I was sitting right there,
like right behind Cam for that, that wedge into 17. And I mean, the, the, the wind was,
was ripping like 20, 22 miles an hour, straight down wind. And that, that, that, that doesn't even
look like it's on land over there. And, I mean, like, the, the amount of, like, just how much he
covered that ball and the amount of spin and command. And, I mean, like, the, the, the amount of, the, the,
commitment that that shot took.
Like that was truly do or die.
There was no, because I think if it lands in that bunker with the way that it was coming in,
like it's probably plugging as well.
And then the drive on 18 was just insane.
All while, you know, Fitz is like Cam just pushed his chips all the way in on both of those
shots and one at all.
It was incredible.
And then it's such a good approach too.
Yeah.
Like that shot and putt on 17 are career defining.
Yes. I mean, that, I will view the rest of Cameron Young's career differently based on that specific moment, taking on that line in that moment, hitting it there. And we've seen Cam have that putt, like nine feet, seven inches, I think it was, in major championships, like a put you need to make if you're going to potentially win one of these things. And it doesn't ever go in. And like since last August, those have all gone in. And I was confident he was going to make that. And just to see him absolutely shut the door on one of these in a massive, massive, massive moment. It was, I was, that was one of the most exciting.
I'm getting caught up in the recency of it,
but like one of the most exciting golf tournaments
I've watched in recent memory.
It was awesome.
Solly,
I don't think that's getting caught up at all.
Like it felt like like like I think Dede,
you were there for for Ricky winning at all and pushing his chips in there.
But like that was one of the best three or four golf shots I've ever seen in person.
For like hands down.
And then just to I think like Cody and Neil,
you guys would have been over the moon seeing how Cam was treated by the crowds.
like there's just like they were they were all for him and it wasn't just because he's an American or whatever
like there was a genuine the juice appreciation he's got swag man he's just got quite confidence
I mean he he he's he's wearing blowbys and I'm like those weren't blowbys
I mean they kind of are blowbys like but it's it's almost like and he's got the necklaces on
I'm like man I mean it's like I wish I could pull that look off you know he's just he's got
straight up swag and uh he just kind of feels
Like he's not trying very hard.
You know, he just doesn't, like, he has a bit of a I don't give a fuck attitude,
which I think people are drawn to that, you know.
And then he's got loud traits, Randy.
That helps, you know.
Like he hits your shit out of the ball.
Yeah, he does.
He does.
I, I, not much to, to add here, except for what a, what a fun players.
Just a, like you guys said, just, just a really nice viewing experience today.
yesterday even for that matter
going back this whole week
like one of the more enjoyable players championships
I can remember
well I think the best way to tackle today
because there was a lot of shit that happened
I just kind of started taking notes
as the shit was happening
well TC let's fill you in we're going to do a little
we're just going to kind of do a little play by play
and we'll stop for detours along the way
if we need to dive into something guys
so of course
Ludwig Aberg
Ludwig Oberg
enters the final round
with a three-shot lead over his playing partner
Michael Thor Bjornson, the burrito
gallery T.C. A couple of Jacksonville
native sons out there.
Both recently moved to
the Jacksonville area play at TPC Sawgrass
that made a meal out of this, which
was great going into it.
Both of them birdied the par five second
with T.C. hot on their heels out there
watching the golf. Thor
Bjornson quickly ejected,
summarily ejected after he drove it
in the rough. On number four,
and dumped the ensuing wedge into the water.
He would go on to make an eight.
Ludwig also bogeied there.
Just a tough scene.
T.C., that obviously feels like a stop point there.
What did we miss from on the ground during that whole segment?
Yeah, Ludwig got pretty lucky off the tee there.
He drove one left.
But it was like mashed down rough and kind of up on top of the hill.
Was that a crowning?
Maybe a little bit.
such a bad shot that he hit out of the tea.
Yeah, it wasn't good.
That one's had his number all week.
He did the opposite thing yesterday.
He kind of hit a spinning one right yesterday off the tea there.
And then actually hit a pretty good shot up onto the green from there.
I don't know.
Watching guys,
I mean,
all you had to do is hit the middle of the green there that feeds down.
I felt like,
you know,
he missed his target.
He should have been,
it kind of went over the flag.
It felt like it should have been just.
Well, there just wasn't a whole lot of chance to like stop it off the green from,
from where he was.
I thought like,
he needs to hit a better chip there,
basically.
That was the issue.
But yeah,
I mean,
Thorbjornson just,
like,
he missed the shorty.
I thought he made triple.
We were already up on the T,
on the next T,
and they were like,
oh, he missed the shorty to,
for,
you know,
for a triple.
So, yeah,
nothing really sticks out there.
It was just,
we talked about it ad nauseum
on the,
on the pod the last few nights
of just like,
how much four rules?
You guys did a great job
breaking it down last night.
That four is,
it's awesome.
And just the stats on missing left or right,
just being in the rough there and you're screwed, basically.
It's a great golf hole.
What was just because I don't think we're going to circle back to him,
what was the Thorbiornson vibe after that?
I mean, that's kind of a tough spot to be.
Didn't he bogey the next one?
Or he bogeied a couple more down.
I guess that was more when we got to like 1112.
Yeah, he had a really good up and down on one.
Like he hit a pretty squirly drive on one up the right.
and it was pretty obvious right from the start.
He made Bernie on 2, but it was pretty obvious right from the start
that he just doesn't have multiple speeds.
Like there's not a whole lot of pitch mixes,
Solly, and, you know, he's just throwing a lot of four seamers.
And I just say he is he BSI, T.C?
No, I don't think he's BSI.
I think he's just kind of a thrower, not a pitcher.
Might be like the MIS.
And people are going to catch up to 103, man.
if it's not moving.
I'll tell you whose game reminds me of a little bit.
Dustin Johnson.
That's what I was saying.
And there's outfit too.
You know,
he's got the monochrome all blue with the tailor made hat.
I'm like,
I've seen that guy before.
I mean,
he's got loads of game.
I just think he just needs a little bit more seasoning there as well.
Well,
I think between that and then the,
you know,
he was,
he was really struggling there 11 and 12 as well.
Like the group just didn't have anything going.
He,
like,
I give him credit.
He made five,
birdies today. Like he wasn't just
trying to hang on for dear life.
He just... He just... He just...
He just... He just... He just... He just...
...selled 17. I didn't see that. That's...
Double 17.
Double 17.
Well, after that, Ludwig settled in
a little bit. Makes five pars in a row
and takes a
two-shot lead at the turn
over Bob McIntyre and Matt Fitzpatrick,
who started his day, burdying three of the
first four, just coming out guns
blazing. That's when we get
our first Cam Young charge
starting to mount birdie on 10.
to get within two and then of course things finally got interested this is the snoozy the snoozy
part neal and then things finally got interesting uh on 11 ludwig wipes one into the middle of the
pond there a middle middle too like it wasn't close wasn't close tc you know your statement there
i guess yeah i think like looking back i think ludwig on on nine the fact that he didn't birdie nine
that was when I started to get a little concerned.
I was like, oh, okay, that's, he had a really good second shot in there.
It wasn't, like, I think he was trying to go long.
Like, wasn't going to mess with that.
Yeah, they all were.
But, like, Fitz got into that short grass and Ludwig ran just off into the long stuff.
Hit a decent ship, but it was like, you know, 15 footer.
Just didn't make a whole out of those 10 to 15 footers, the first 10 holes or so.
And then, yeah, kind of 11 great spot.
and yeah, just an awful, awful, awful golf swing.
Which is so crazy, juxtaposing that against yesterday's four iron into 11, you know, to converting the eagle.
And that shot on 11 was such a, it felt like a sneeze because he'd been kind of on autopilot all day.
Like he hadn't hit like the shot, the drive on four, okay, like not a good shot.
But like, it didn't look horrible.
It was just like, whoa, that was so out of character.
What are you doing, man?
Like it just kind of, like I said, just all of a sudden.
sudden now I'm leaning forward. I'm like, God, Ludwig's just not going to go backwards. That's what I was
thinking on 11. I'm like, he's just going to kind of plot along here. And nobody else, I mean,
Fitzpatrick a little bit up to that point had had been, you know, had been pressing him. You know,
the guy in his group ejected. It just felt like Ludwig was going to kind of cruise.
Yeah, he's really disconcerting. Like seeing, I was standing on the hill behind 11 because I wanted
to see the shot come into that back pinned. And everybody in the crowd was like, oh, man, that
thing is like really, really far, far right.
Like that's over the water. And then splash down, we didn't even come close.
And then I was thinking, oh my God, we got to get Neil out here to tell him where to drop.
Options.
I'd be happy to.
Yeah.
The hard part about this TC was both this shot and the shot we'll talk about next on 12 were like just, we were like just, we were in territory with Ludwig of, hey, that's the only thing you can't do right now.
Totally.
Like the only thing you can't do.
get this ball and land on both of those holes and like I still feel like you're probably
going to win this tournament and they were just catastrophic mistakes man I and just so
god I want to say so out of character now but like now I'm like replaying a bunch of stuff
and I'm like did we do we go too hard and like crown him too early yes but like this one's going
this one's going to stick with not like all of us for a long time like what happens in the
ensuing couple hours. Let's get the
let's get the next one there because it goes from bad
to worse. Yes. On 12 and what I was
going to point out is.
Real quick. There's so much room left
too. Like there's all that short grass left.
Granted, it's kind of a credit card whole meal.
Right? Or in Levick's case, a chlor in a hole
because that's a Swedish company.
And then yeah, and then on 12,
there's no upside to hitting driver there.
He's a driver a lot
I think this week.
And everybody, it's just
like that was the one where
he was so fucking quick at the top of that swing
and it was so far off the toe right
like it looked like it was just a straight toe hook yeah just very
flippy immediate left which is again the
the right ball like and then the hard left ball is like ah man
at least if you could take one side out it's like you can you can kind of
get your way around but just two complete opposites 12 off the tee
like yeah toe flipper into the water had to drop way back
at like 170, hits it over the green,
bad ship, makes it double.
And then at that point, I believe
Fitz is Bernie 12 and 13
to take the outright lead.
And it goes, you know,
very, very quickly there.
Ludwig goes from starting the day three up
to finding himself three back as he
walks off the 12th C. I think the most
frustrating part about Ludwig on 12
was the fact that Thor Bjoranson did
the exact same thing, like
15 seconds before he hit it.
like yeah i don't know what's the risk here i feel like with you know
is is that the place sally i'm gonna you know
just feels like maybe we just hit iron in the fairway
yeah but at the same time i the most of the day watching ludwig i'm like man i can't
even see the other side of the tracer when he hits driver because it's just following the
exact line it was on the way up and he's one of the best drivers in the world and
he was vibing this week so i i don't know i'd be talking out of both sides of my mouth
if I completely questioned driver there.
Just flipping through it.
It looked like he hit driver there on Thursday.
That was the third hole he played there.
I don't, I can't tell if he hit it Friday.
He only hit it when 266 off that T on Friday.
And the T was up on Saturday.
But it, yeah, you got your superpower.
Use it.
But yeah, maybe he was feeling a little nervry at that point.
It's like, give me the biggest club head.
On the previous hole, T.C., and you won't like this part.
They did zoom in on his driver when he, that he hit off 11 and he was off the toe.
I mean, it was way out on the toe.
And that went right down the middle.
I'm wondering if he's saying, yeah, I'm not now.
And my drivers couldn't, if I hit it off the toe, it's going to fly right down the middle.
It just didn't this time.
So, yeah, agree with all that.
Dege, two things I felt on what watching Ludley play 12, I felt bad.
I was like, oh, this sucks.
Like, it just kind of felt bad.
Like, you guys said it last night.
It's hard to root against Ludwig.
You can't really find anything like not to like.
It's like, guys, maybe you could, I guess, accuse him being kind of boring, but it's just really elegant, polished, and it's just like, oh, man, this guy's going to collapse like this. He's going to get tracked down by the guy in Skechers. Like, this sucks, man. Because at this point, Cam Young wasn't doing much. And I'm like, this kind of blows. Like, what, now the last group has no juice. And, but I, the second point I want to make is I want to give Ludwig a ton of credit walking off 12 green. I mean, it's just kind of like a, you know,
Like just, dang, man, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, but like, he doesn't get high or low.
I just don't know how that's humanly possible the way he is able to manage his emotions.
Yeah.
I, I, I admire the hell out of that.
He pops a lot of zines, you know.
I admire the hell out of that too, T.C.
I was, I was, I was walking with the data golf guys.
And they were like, yeah, he went from whatever he was like, now he has a two and a half percent chance to win TC.
I'm sorry.
Were they walking around with their computer?
Because at the Ryder Cup, he's like, got to.
his laptop and he's like live updating.
I'm like, God, this is sick.
Watch the sausage be made on Data Golf.
You know what I'm standing right there on 13T?
Right by the sawgrass marriott, like very sacred spot.
The shadow of the sawgrass marriott.
And, you know, it's playing into the wind, but I see scovie, you know, flash to the bones
and the spot are like seven iron.
I was like, he's hitting seven iron here?
That seems like a lot of club.
and he hits it and he's like cut cut cut cut i was like man that thing's going to have to cut
cut and have a hell of a lot of backspin on it to i mean he flew at what solid 190 yards
flew 187 i think it was um maybe one 84 i forget what the actual number is but like fits and
prior in the group prior like carved a little seven iron in there like it didn't look at he took
something off a seven and then love it like smashed a seven i know the wind was a little different
but that was just like, man, I don't think my guy's making the best, you know, has the best process going right now.
And that was, that was one too.
Like I thought, I thought for a moment that he, did he hold the chip?
And that was when like, that was like when the soul left the body a little bit.
Like I'm sitting there.
I'm like, 14, 15.
I like, I got to go into mourning stages of grief here.
And then I got to pull myself out of this.
You see, what were the Swedes doing at this point?
The Viking hats were out in force this week.
did they stick with their guy?
Oh yeah.
There was,
I mean,
the Swedish contingent was strong,
both,
you know,
like Friday through Sunday.
I know Ludvig's mom was in town,
one of his buddies.
I talked to him for a little bit from,
from Eslov.
They were there.
I mean,
Ludvig's mom was saying,
like,
he was down in the dumps a month ago,
like with his game.
Like,
he just wasn't playing well.
I think he's,
I think of anything,
like he's,
yes,
he's super bummed,
but also just talking to him
for a bit after the round.
Like,
It sounds like he's more enthused that he's had two top five or top sixes in a row.
And like he feels like he's got his game back because he was pretty, he was pretty,
he was in a funk there, the first quarter of the year.
Randy, I want to ask, I feel like you're good at zooming out, bottom line.
Some of these.
I ask you to put together some grades.
And maybe we'll just kind of sprinkle these in as we go.
But what grade are you given Ludwig this week?
I'm not going to be very nice to him
because I thought the weekend was
I mean, did the 63 kill all his momentum Friday?
A lot of people are asking.
That's a call, Randy.
Jammed up a few cases.
Sure seems like it did.
Do you apologize?
I'm going to give him a C plus.
That's a bad analogy.
Oh, it's a great analogy.
I don't think the weekend.
The Saturday was fine.
thing you can do.
The Saturday was fine, Randy.
It was not really very good, T.C.
That wasn't a winning Saturday and definitely was not a winning Sunday.
What was the grade?
I'm sorry, I missed it.
C plus.
C plus.
I think, listen, hey, through two days, yeah, everything looked great.
Some positives to take away.
But I think we got a big issue on our hands with hitting some very squirrely shots
under the gun in the biggest moment.
Because you go back to the Masters.
You know what it was, too?
11.
Yeah.
Jesus.
Same water ball, right?
It's like, dang, man, we can't, you know, and they said on the broadcast, like, he
likes to play quick and he likes to play offense.
And it seems like maybe in these big moments, it's like, can we slow it down a beat?
And maybe we can't play as much offense.
I hate to say that.
That sounds lame to say out loud, but it's like, it seems like it's cost him in a couple
big spots.
I think, I don't know.
I mean, I think he's definitely got some stuff to work on.
I also don't think his game was super, super, super tight the last month or so coming into this.
So you think that you've been telling us, oh my guy, he's going to win the master's.
I said it's coming.
I think he is going to win the Masters.
I think he's vividly remember you saying repeatedly that he's back.
I think he is bad.
I'm just saying, like, you were saying that.
We got to work.
You were not saying that.
We got to work through some code issues here of, hey, there's still some gremlins in there.
And he's got to keep the mogul.
So I don't think he's not a finished product.
I just want to call out that TC's like, yeah,
I've been saying like he's not all the way there the past couple weeks.
Like I just,
I didn't say he's not the way there.
I've been telling him.
He's not coming off like three months of sustained great play.
He's he's climbed the mountain to come back.
And now he's now he needs to polish the shit up.
Here's, let me, let me here.
Here's my question with Ludwig.
Just to toss this out here is,
I think right now he's starting to feel after today,
starting to feel a little bit poster childy to me about like,
this guy got into the signature events.
He does just good enough.
But like at some point, I got to see my guy winning,
just like to close it out.
Doing more.
And I think the public sentiment, you know,
we have not helped with how much praise and picks that we've made for Ludwig.
but yeah it's it's it's it's time for him i think i think this is a big year now for him i really
we're going to need to see some stuff luddy i would counterpoint that to say we i feel
like that's the same argument you can make for cam young until about an hour and a half ago
which i do think that's a great juxtaposition because i i totally agree with you neil where it's
like dude this good that his rookie year is just top ten and all these big ass events and then
it took him to win them last year to win something you know
You know, it's like, people get impatient, especially with those two because again, Randy,
I'm going to say it, loud traits.
Ludwig has the same thing.
It's like such a good looking swing.
It's like, how does that guy miss?
You know, they're almost held to this higher standard a little bit because of this potential
we all see.
Well, there's, there's a little bit of a Scotty, you know, when Scotty was quote unquote
struggling or couldn't get it over the line or couldn't win or whatever.
Like there is a little bit to the Ludwig, you know, what if I, what if I told you
you that the handsome guy with all the
traits also was like a winner.
He's like, well, that's, that's cool. That's not that interesting.
Like, what if I told you that the guy
that should be winning everything? Just like
can't get it over the line is where I'm like,
ooh, okay. Now I'm, now,
continues to have a good attitude about it.
Yeah, exactly. He did have
a great post-rounder today, too.
It was almost
frustratingly grounded and like
centered, you know,
we're just seemingly just in a really good mood.
Yeah. This, I think, yeah, like he was
yeah, he was very upfront about the shortcomings today.
And yeah, I think he's got to learn how to close the deal.
I mean, I don't think.
I know.
Like, he's got to learn how to close the deal.
He's only, he's only 29 months old or younger than Cam Young.
So it's not like they're that far apart as far as age-wise.
Cam's 28.
But Randy, also, Leveig's got a solo second and a solo seventh in his two master's appearances.
Like, he's played, he's played eight majors so far.
He needs to get better at the PGA's.
He's got two cuts there.
But I think...
He seems to thrive in these contained ecosystems a little bit.
And I thought this week was good.
You know, players would have been really good for the resume.
But...
Yeah.
I am surprised.
I'm very bullish on him.
I'm still like, yes, there's stuff to work on.
And yes, are there flaws there?
Or is there...
Are there some bugs in the software?
Yeah, maybe.
But I think they're very, very fixable.
Like, he's...
I think he's chipping.
gotten a lot better.
I would like to see him maybe,
maybe play around with a mallet,
putter. He's one of the few guys out there.
He's working for everybody else.
Yeah.
But no, I'm bullish.
But, you know, I'll apologize to everybody out there.
I'm so sorry that, you know, this guy.
I'm sorry.
You were in the way.
Yeah.
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Moving down our play by play here, guys. So by this time, Fitz is your leader, gives one back
with a very weird three putt at 14. Gas that thing by about 12 feet from kind of that
right side of the green. And so now it's a tie for the first time with Cam Young. Up top, Fitz
punches back with a birdie at 15 to regain the lead, which was good stuff.
Ludwig, it is worth mentioning
Bogey had 15 as well just to
seemingly kind of end all
of his chance. Yeah. That one had his number.
No path. No path to victory
after that one, T.C.
Zander makes it interesting for a
minute. Bertie's three of the last four
including the one on 18. I was all
hot and bothered about him hitting an iron
and leaving himself like 190 into
that back pin straight down wind.
But he made me look like an idiot by
stuffing one in there and
making Bertie. Anybody got anything on
Zander kind of a just really weird weird week good week uh Randy wasn't on the list I don't
if you have a grade for for Xander but uh just kind of a strange one yeah uh I put him in that
honestly like a B plus I thought overall it was a good week for Xander I think him being back in the
mix and at a big event like this I thought the finish as you said was strong to quite strong
so I'm maybe surprisingly for myself I'm I'm complimentary of Zander
I thought.
Zandig is so
G-plus for shooting himself out of it
on Saturday after a 74.
And then he came back.
Final has a lot of weight
in the grade.
Yeah,
the more I'm thinking about this,
Ludwig,
I mean,
he flunked the final.
Like that C-plus
starting to feel generous.
You know,
he did really nice the whole semester,
but I mean,
he got like a 52 on the final.
By Randy's metrics.
Does he get the,
does he grasp the concepts or not?
I don't,
I don't know.
The Miami Red Hawk shouldn't be in the tournament,
Randy.
It's interesting.
We won't go there,
TC. You're lashing out now because
we'll start flailing TC. We got
a long ways to go tonight. All right. Long ways to go.
Well, after
Xander posts his round, Cam
tries to make a move on 16. Great T shot
there on 16 with fits
over in the trees trying to decide how he was
going to punch out what he was going to do.
Cam pulls that one
pretty hot left as well. Catchers a tree
dropped straight down in fried eggs
in those nasty
nasty bunkers that are like 50 yards short of 16 green just like maybe one of the I don't know one of the
coolest bunkers at golf I think very underrated spot that whole sequence was awesome though he had 250
and you could just see his shirt whipping in the wind and you're like oh he's got iron like that that ain't
getting there he said he was waiting for a wind gap to potentially get it to the front but then you're
like man I don't know if I love pulling out a fairway wood here to get to the back pin with a firm green all that
water around you know you bail left you can't really get up and down from over there you just like
There was a ton of TPC sawgrass stuff going on in that exact moment.
Just with all that on the line at that point,
that was just a moving that T back has been a good thing for 16
because it has made decisions like that very real.
And I'll go back to what I said at the beginning,
not making that putt for Bertie on 15 for Cam specifically.
And then that shot on 16, what am I feeling in that moment?
Like, God, he's just going to like, let it go.
He's just not going to do it.
He's not going to step up here.
And then he, I think he hit a pit.
pitching wedge, you know, splashed out that, that shot from the bunker, just really solid shot,
lagged it up there, and then goes and stuffs the pin yacht on 17. It was like, oh, my God,
no, he is going to do it. It was, uh, it was like in that moment. It's like, oh, my, he's arrived.
He did it. What, what did you guys think of that pin on 16? Because I feel like the Sunday
pin, you know, back in the day, maybe they used this one last year too. I'm not sure. But it's always been
that kind of front right. I just remember the Ricky Fowler, you know, Ricky Fowler shot in 15,
where he just kind of one step over the bulkhead hits one that kind of rolls down into almost like a little bit of a funnel.
That was like a big boy pin on 16 today, especially with the way the wind was going, especially with how firm it was.
We saw Robert McIntyre try to, I mean, poor guy got those moguls and kind of just tried to hack one on the green and ended up shipping it in the water, which was tough.
But I had more asked because of Fitz, like Fitz laid up to, he was farther back than he wanted to be, certainly.
usually that shot that third shot into 16 on Sunday especially is not like crazy difficult but it was
tough to tough to get one close to to that pin I don't know if you guys like that one didn't like
that one I loved it I wish I had more hands I also love like let's not get too precious with
tradition on on all the pins it's like okay sure there's a you know spots for like the Sunday pin
on 17 but like I liked seeing them mix up I felt like they mix it up on 18 this year yeah
with the pin in the way back.
That was so hard.
Yeah, yesterday.
They made a big deal.
Yeah.
And I'm like,
let's give me a new look.
Because it's like we're playing at the same course every year.
I would like to see different looks to almost mix these guys up a little bit too.
Do you feel that way about Augusta?
On like certain holes, I'd like the pin to be in the same spot.
But yeah,
I'd like,
I'd be cool if they wanted to mix it up.
Yeah.
I don't know.
They could have looked it up more at Augusta than you might,
might think.
Like it's not in the,
you know,
They broke tradition.
They went back right on 16 last year.
Backed out by Randy.
Yeah.
But, you know,
it set up was great.
Like,
just they had it back.
They had it back on that 16th green twice.
I think normally they only put it back in that kind of back right once.
But in 15 and 16 greens were very,
very baked out.
Like Ludwig's chip into 15 hit a good chip and just didn't even,
think about getting or whatever.
Where Cam was in that bunker on 16.
Like, I've made quad from there.
That's like maybe the worst place of the golf.
Also, again, like in his in his own pitchmark,
dropping straight out of that.
Yeah.
And that's what I was like, that's the moment for me.
I'm like, okay.
You tried.
You rose to the occasion right there more so than for me,
more so there than on 17th.
Yeah.
Randy, I had this on your,
your grade sheet. I gave you a whole pile
papers to grade, but just TPC
Sawgrass, the players as a whole. I think
it's kind of an interesting one.
What'd you think this week?
I agree with TC. I thought it was a great
setup. I give
sawgrass as a whole.
I mean,
honestly, it kind of is on
that
A minus line.
It's really good. You know
this guy hates give it out of A's.
He never gives A's. Yeah. I think
couple of things. I think, and this ties in a little to the broadcast, so this isn't like sawgrass's
fault necessarily. I think as like 17 is good, right? It's a little overdone in my opinion,
just everything about it, especially like on Sunday, like we don't need to keep, I don't know.
I think 17's just a touch overdone from my liking. As you guys said, four and 12 are great kind of
shorter par fours with a lot of strategy.
12, yeah.
Really?
These guys hate 12, Randy. Sorry, you may
miss that. Oh, well.
I mean, it ended up being pretty impactful
today. Yeah, I really
enjoy it. And I can't figure out why guys don't hit
just like iron wedge off the teeth, but I
know we kind of touched on that.
I think the
tree on six, I think we got to keep
lowering it until somebody hits it
in competition and then we found our spot
where we keep it. So I would like to see
the tree limb on six come down a little bit, you know, piece by piece. You should have to go under or over
the limb. We're just going to turn into the limbo. I love it. I would be down with that. I really like that
idea. Didn't I think Ernie L's hit it one time? 18. Let's let's pinch. Let's pinch 18 a little bit.
Let's get weird there. But overall, I think it's a move our new tea, Randy. Once they put our new
tea in up above the water, I think it will be better. Although on that note, on that note,
like I actually think 18 today playing downwind
is actually harder because guys
like Fitz
not hard but just challenging in a different way
like Fitz's ball like with you I think it's harder
to hit certain parts of the fairway for sure
I think Fitz said that afterwards too
he almost picked up his tea because he thought it was like
money and it just the wind kept it straight
didn't draw and it just like
it's a really small effective
effective window you're trying to hit it in there
Because otherwise, you've got to hit it so left and just be preying there.
And then Cam had, I know he hit this unbelievable drive.
That was such an awkward shot.
So hard.
It was like 98 yards whipping straight down, firm, firm green, like pin in the back.
Can't go long.
Can't go long.
You know it's going to have a, yeah, it's just really, really, really hard.
I got, this is kind of TPC sawgrass related, but I put together a little, I don't know how we do this.
Maybe a little stump the Schwab.
So do you guys think you could predict?
which holes had the most water balls
in order this week.
I think if you make a wrong guess, you're out.
Neil, it's your week.
I'm going to give you first pick.
Which hole had the most water balls this week?
I'm going to say 18.
18 is correct.
Good stuff.
40.
I mean, it's such a hard shot, man.
Keep going to.
I feel like I saw a ton of them.
Actually, I saw a style on the broadcast that the thousandth,
on Friday, I think the 1,000th ball had gone to the water.
Yeah, that was good.
which was a nice
Let's see how deep Neil can go here.
All right.
So 18 has 40 balls in the water.
I'll tell you the next one has 31.
Okay.
I mean,
hmm.
I'm trying to make sure I don't skip up on the front nine.
Is it a trick or is?
Yeah, I'm going to go 17.
17 is correct.
You got it.
I was taking through the,
the front nine,
making sure I wasn't missing anything.
Beautiful mind shit.
17 has 31 balls.
The next one,
has 30. Only one less
than 17.
Man. I think
yeah.
Because of that massive
bunker, I don't think it's 11.
I'm going to say
and I want to say
13.
I'm going to say 16.
16's correct.
Wow. You got it.
Oh my God. This is unprecedented.
All right. The next one.
The mentalist.
The next one has 26
balls of the water. Four less than
16. Okay.
I'm going to say number four.
Good guess. The run is over.
Anybody want to make a guess?
12. 12 is correct. T.C.
After that, only one less than 12.
This one kind of surprised me.
13.
No.
You're out.
5?
You're out already.
Twice.
11.
11 is correct.
You can know you're out.
11 had 25.
Next, after that was 4, Neil.
After that was 7.
After that was 5.
After that was 9.
Had 12 balls in the water, as well as 13, had 12 balls in the water.
14 had 9 balls in the water, and 6 only had 2 balls in the water.
Shout out to JT.
There you go.
God, good shit, Neil.
That's your, it's your week, man.
And also good shit from TPC, like to have your 16, 17, 18, just be like,
18, 17, 17, yeah, like, yo, man, it's, it's just going to get harder and harder here.
Yeah, I just finish.
I don't know, you compare a lot of Florida golf courses can really run together.
I do think, and maybe I'm just getting old, but TPC is starting to really separate itself as like,
just, it does have an iconic, like, look to it, you know, you, I'm on some text threads with my buddies
like man this looks so hard you know just it it has that we're talking about on Thursday like the modern
the modern art look to it like it's just different looking more more so this year than I felt in the
past I guess was that an overseed uh soundboard there overseed though
no no I'm with you that's a setup like that's why we've talked as much as we have in recent
years about the soft pillow ass TPC sawgrass that is not the same as what we just witnessed like
that's what made the drama of this tournament
be unsettled until the back nine
and it made that tournament feel really long
in the best possible way
and I was thinking about this a little bit today guys
I'm not here to do the whole major thing
but like this and the quail hollow
and Valhalla are not in the same category
of championship not even remotely close
and PJ has the better field
like they have the live guys that's the argument for it but like this is a really really really good
championship and it's more of the to your point DC PGA is especially on notice if they're
going to elevate it to this level like it is erronomics got a lot a lot of work uh to be considered
a better tournament than that one I actually don't think they could get there then frisco next year
like they're gonna get so I think that yeah it's it's fucking pouring here now like we've probably
I got an inch of rain since since we hopped on the show.
So we timed it up right this year with the tournament.
Certainly the weather and the conditions cooperated for the most part
with the exception of Thursday midday.
But I'll just say, yeah, I thought that like Fucci was was bitching about the pin on 18 last night on Instagram.
He took to social media to say how poor that hole was.
I love it when they take to social media.
If we're not doing that, man, it's not.
a major.
Right.
Totally.
Like those are into key indicators that were moving in the right direction.
I think we need to go back and I don't know what time, like what year we need to go back to.
But I just know at least the next, the last decade, we need to go back and evaluate what was a major and what wasn't.
Because some years, I think sawgrass was a major.
It's a retroactive.
Yeah.
I think that'd be great.
That'd be great pod.
we should put that like like like like like like like like like like like like like like
like he's only got one he's only got one major because
ball hollow was like it wasn't one and yeah we
I think we tested this theory last year like
Valhalla is what lifted the lid off for him I don't think
can give him the second one because like he he you know he had the monkey
office back with the the the not real one so I think I put
zander back at zero it's interesting I was you guys think of the
sawgrass the uh the berms the the collars this year much
much better this year.
Like they stopped,
like they didn't stop as many
progress,
Randy.
Progress.
I think that's the right word.
Especially in the front.
Like if you can't control
your spin into 17,
especially when that pin is up front,
like you should be rolling off into the water.
Like that is just,
maybe we mow it down on the weekend.
Sure.
Why does it need to be the same all four days?
That's great.
Yeah.
Good call.
Trim that shit up.
Randy,
I didn't see any balls that were ripping hard that got stopped
on any collars of rough.
this week.
I just think without those collars,
the threat of,
if that ball gets away,
it's going.
Like,
that's one of my favorite things about Augusta,
right?
If I'm thinking of sawgrass
as like a real major championship test,
like,
man,
we should know early where it's like,
ooh,
that balls are all,
and that's not stopping.
And I feel like the collars around sawgrass
just keep too many balls up
for my liking.
I think that's fair.
It is,
but I just don't know how you do
that with if the wind does get
up up like it did in
2022 and you don't have anything
there like guys are never going to get aboard
that great and I know that's what you want
I know it's what you're asking for
great right on the same page moving on
I love the idea of shaving
them down after Friday
because today like
they teed off they teed off
it sunrise
today and
couldn't space
everything out enough like they still almost
didn't get it in before the weather.
The pace of play out there,
there's just so many spots
for train wrecks and for
bad stuff to happen.
Neil also, I got to just say
those were not blowbyes
today from Cam Yong. Those were like
the kind of thing that you would wear to like
a business function
or more like lank-tied dinner.
They were, yeah, they were foot joys.
Like the blowboys are the
bad athletic looking
black shoes.
I think by definition it's just like black shoes, you know, in an athletic endeavor.
Specifically worn by like a white guy, it looks like you're going to get blown by.
It's kind of like the, that's what it comes from basketball.
Like he's a blowby alert, you know, like, oh my God, like.
And specifically black shoes with like white socks or black shoes with white pants,
like a bridgeman, that's a tough look.
But Camp's pulling it off, T.C.
And I would agree with you that it's a classier pair of blowbys, but by definition, they are blowbys.
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everything. Guys, back to our drama. We get to seven.
T. Fitz has a one
shot lead. He hits it to about 30
feet or so, middle of the green. Very
sporty, solid shot
for a Sunday afternoon.
And Cam absolutely stuffs
the pinata, hits it inside
10 feet, makes the birdie. Neil,
we heard him talk about it in the
presser afterwards. He was raving like
a lunatic about how it was the absolute
perfect club. I believe his exact quote
or not exact quote, but I'm paraphrasing
was basically that shot could have been a lot
harder if I had to take something off a gap wedge.
and instead it was just
a absolute full smoke
sand wedge.
He knew that it was going to
have a ton of spin because he was hitting it hard,
knew it was going to clear the bunker by
one to three yards, I believe was his
quote. And then after that, it's just kind of
let the green do its thing and let it trickle down
to the hole. And that's exactly what
happened. Cody,
we haven't heard from you, man. How are you feeling on
when he stuffs it in there on 17?
Are you running around the house like a
like a loon? What are you doing?
Gentlemen, welcome.
Thank you for having me here.
Yeah, it was very exciting time.
I didn't think that that putt was going to go in because as
Sully has mentioned before, we've seen these puts that Cam's had in the past and they always
just kind of roll right over the edge and when one actually fell after what happened on
16, you know, partly his own doing.
Probably shouldn't have booked that long iron in there, but horrible lie.
getting out of there with the par
and then absolutely stuffing it on
on 17 rolling in the put.
I was going crazy.
We weren't out of the woods.
We weren't.
But, you know, Neil, I was kind of with you there.
I was like, oh, man, like,
Fitz is pimstepping and sketches all over me.
Like, my heart is breaking.
You know, T.C. is in the Slack still thinking
like something could potentially happen.
Like, I just was like, if there was a moment here,
this putt was it.
and he fucking made it guys
it was fucking electric
yari was yelling at me
uh i was very very pumped
well cody at that point i was not
i was i was next to seventeen green
watching cam because i knew that pot was for the tournament
that was an absolute ripper magoo
too i mean so much so much slope in that
that was a tough pot
cody what's uh as best you can sum it up
why is cam your dude
i think it goes back to
I think that when you're trying to find who your favorite golfers are,
you try to match a little bit of your game in them.
Now, I obviously don't have the power that Cam Young does,
but he's always just kind of been like the slow grower.
He didn't, you know, win every single junior tournament.
He didn't come out and win every single college event.
I can't believe that you guys compared Cam Young's coming on to the PGA tour to Ludvigs
because Cam Young was not at all the prospect.
that Ludwig is.
I would say he had a really,
really good rookie season,
though.
That was the comparison I was making.
He did.
He did make a splash early.
And it's very obvious when you watch him.
It's like,
whoa,
that guy has game.
Like because of the power and,
you know,
the way,
basically the way swings it.
I think that's the similarity.
He has a beautiful golf swing.
And I think,
you know,
people say that he's like super boring.
That was always the thing with Cam Young.
He came out and was like top 10 and then majors.
And people are like,
oh my goodness,
but he shows nothing.
And I'm like, well, yeah, like watch his golf game.
And you're like, he's just like really good.
And he didn't win yet.
And it took him a long time to win.
But if you look at his career, that's how he's always progressed.
And then obviously we got to spend time with him.
And it was awesome through our relationship with Omni and like playing golf with him and talking.
You know, I was geeking out.
And then it turns out to like he was geeking out because he was super into my background and everything.
We just like hit it off.
And it's been awesome.
I'm just super happy for him.
he's uh yeah i know i know you got to be careful like how much you play that card because it's like
i know you guys are watching somebody that seems pretty boring but
man i don't know spent a little bit of time with him and he's like he's pretty awesome he's pretty
good man he's pretty funny smart switched on guy that like i've always really enjoyed spending time
with and i've just yeah i found myself after 18 today just like weirdly happy for someone i don't
really know all that well you know just a guy that i i really have grown to root for in a in a
big way. No social media, Randy,
which is also sick.
It's one of those opt it out.
Weird things, though, too. Like, so much
of you base, so much of your fanhood, based on
their personalities on camera on the golf
course, not being able to hear them. Totally, man.
That's how people find their favorite players
is like, do you like their mannerisms
and attitudes and aura
on the golf course? And he
doesn't give you much. I was like, please smile.
After winning, I want you to walk off 18.
Let me see a smile. I want to see a smile.
I want to see some relief. I want to see what this means,
to you and he just he doesn't let you don't do it that's not his style it's crazy i think it's like
the exact same personality as 99% of the people in my former job had yeah we just don't really
show much we're there to do the work and you know i forever we used to say can'tly was part of the
treadstone program no like cam young is treadstone like he is that with you there he uh i think
it's it's almost old school and that like going beyond him not having social media it's just like
he just lets his clubs do the talking and people resonate with his golf swing.
Like I think that that's a big thing.
People just like watching him play golf because it's rhythmic and like it's just,
his swing just makes you feel something.
And I think that's something that growing up, that was how you identify with players.
It wasn't, you know, who, who did this or that as far as social media or interviews or whatever.
It was like, whose swing did you like watching on the Saturday?
and Sunday afternoon telecasts, right?
And it's kind of a throwback in that regard in a great way.
Well, it reminds me so much of, Randy, I'm sure you feel this way too.
Actually, I don't know how you feel about Cam Young, but it reminds me of so many baseball players, right?
Where it's just like, I watch that guy every night and like, man, I love watching that guy play baseball.
I don't think he thinks, you know, what do you think his favorite movie is?
I'm like, oh, I have no fucking idea.
I've never thought about once about him.
Yeah, but he's like, he's sick.
I don't know.
It just is like an avatar for the sport that I love.
Are you a cam guy?
Randy, where are you fall out on this?
Yeah, well, listen, full transparency, I was not on the trip.
I've never met him in person.
So I don't have like the personal connection to him that certainly Cody does.
I think guys like Kim Young, Dij, I think it's a good analogy with baseball players, right,
that don't give you much.
I think they get more interesting as they win bigger events and put themselves in bigger
position. So I think like my interest in Cam Young is just naturally growing as his game has improved
and as he's putting himself in these big situations. So certainly not somebody like I root against.
I have no ill will and everything you guys say like seems like an awesome guy. I think that style is
and a lot like Ludwig, honestly, that that style becomes more interesting in the bigger moment.
So win or lose, I think that's kind of where I am.
Can I ask you guys a question?
I think, sorry, real quick, though.
I think TC also whitewashed my early childhood adoration for Chi Chi Rodriguez with the, you know,
we would just base him on great, Chi Chi.
Yeah.
I love really when he would do the sword fighting.
Yeah.
Well, Cam, I, big.
I'm kind of right there.
You know, I thought about this a lot of like, why does Cam resonate with me?
I mean, and a lot of it's the same way, like, why Phil resonated with me for a long time.
Obviously, Phil was winning PJ tour events a lot more than Cam has so far.
But he was always the guy that, like, tried to hit the big shot.
And usually it didn't work out.
But it was like, oh, man, he tried it.
It's doing stuff.
And, like, nobody else.
Most people would hit fucking iron on 12, you know?
That's my favorite thing.
If guys are just like, yeah, and it finally works.
He had iron.
You're shitting on.
You're not going to love for the same thing, Randy.
I never shit on Loveickford for not.
I can't understand why guys don't hit driver wedge on 12, but I ignore the 12 example.
Okay.
You know what I mean, though.
But rather play it, save, protect the paycheck.
Camas's guy that, like, he will try to hit that shot.
Yeah.
You know?
And it finally, like, it took a long time and getting into Wyndham specifically.
But I think from Wyndham up until this point, his golf game is a hell of a lot different
than it was his first two and a half, three years on tour.
Yeah.
I think there's something to this part, too,
of why I think Kim has a little bit of juice.
And I wrote this question down before he came back in one.
And so maybe it's an easier answer now than it was midday today.
But who's the second best American golfer in the world?
Use your own criteria.
Like, I don't care what the stats say.
Like, in your opinion, who's the second best American golfer?
because I
before he even won today
I think my answer was Cameron Young
you could take him over Xander
over who sorry I'm breaking up
over Zander
it's a great question
I mean that's
or I mean I'm Bryson
you know like I guess you're thinking like
past or future Henley
but the thing is
it's interesting
T seems like he's coming that quick too
yeah
yeah
Henry doesn't do this
he's two he's level you know
I don't think him leaves in the conversation.
Colin, we haven't talked about.
Solly, you bring up a good point.
And as I'm interpreting your point is there is an opportunity.
There's a bit of a vacuum.
And I agree with you.
Like in American golf,
like there's a vacuum of like,
I kind of had it on the list of like there's no,
Dej,
you know I love talking about the kid.
Like there isn't,
the only nomination you have right now is Akshay.
But he's already,
he's been around so damn long.
He feels like, you know,
he's a team's 28.
So he's not the kid either.
He's got three kids.
But my,
point is there's no there's a vacuum right now on the younger side of american golf Colin
has you know abstained like Jordan and j t are just you know j t's coming back he had a good
week i think that's promising but jordan's close i'm i'm hearing from my colleagues here that he's
close uh but i think what what i'm hearing is there is a vacuum on the american side of like
there there's room for more dudes if if you want and he has the potential i don't want to
bastardize your dude definition, but he has potential to be one. He definitely has the,
you know, the, the, the, the makings, the potential to be one. I, I have thought a ton recently,
really since, like, I don't know, pebble, I guess, about that exact thing, like, who's
the American dude. And part of it is, like, the dudes don't have, they don't have massive, like,
the kid has to have some personality. Yeah. Right. And, you know, there are really good
young American players, they're just kind of like
Jacob Bridgman and Ryan Gerard and, you know,
some of these guys who are not great players, DC.
But they're, you know, they're not really going to,
I don't know if they're going to get the people sawgrass,
you know, eight sawgrass splashes deep really going out there,
necessarily. But let me, let me take that though,
Dege and take it a step farther.
I think you, you're either like, you go the Bryson route
and you have all this social media.
this person out or the max route and you're just like you're kind of a media darling or cam young's
almost zagging yeah as hard as possible where it's like man i am just not going to engage at all i'm
not going to get stuck in the middle here and and that makes him feel different and i think that's what
attracts people to him is like man this guy's a mystery i don't know anything about him he seems like a
killer he seems like he's in treadstone cody like this guy is scary and that's that is it's an
identity that i think it's missing it's so funny that he does tGL i don't get why he does tgl i don't
get white that's TG.
He lives there.
That's true, I guess.
Sally and I play with him too.
Like we,
I know.
We've played with them in these,
in these different environments.
He stung for me.
That he's not going to be my second best golfer.
Sali,
I think that you're being a little unfair to Bryson.
Like,
Bryson's bagged some big ass tournaments.
And I think that.
Not like resume in the past.
Like, who's the second?
Right now.
Right now.
Dude, I think like if you,
if you went out there,
like if Bryson would have teed it up at Sawgrass this week
and I get that he didn't and I know why he didn't
but like no but like next month at the Masters or at a Ronamink or whatever
like Bryson is leaps and bounds for like we're talking about a small subset of sicko golfers here
Bryson is leaps and bounds ahead of Cam from a from a
popularity and fan engagement and just reaction perspective.
All totally true.
No, that wasn't the question.
So is Tiger Woods.
Yeah.
But it's like, I think Cam versus Bryson at the master.
Orvat, like that wasn't the question.
I think Tiger or Tiger.
I think Bryson versus Cam Young heads up Masters bet is pretty interesting.
Right now, Bryson's 16 to 1 to win the Masters, Cameron 25 to 1.
Zander's.
I mean, I'm just saying Bryson last year finished like, all right, Bryson's last eight majors,
T6, solo second, first, T5, T2, cut, T10.
Cam's got T9, T63, T67, T31, T-Cut, T-47, T-4, cut.
I just think we're...
The question was not who has had the best last couple years in major championships.
Oh, I get it.
I understand the question.
I just think that...
I just think that Bryson, like, I'm not...
Like, I think we're having way too short of a memory here for Bryson.
As far as, like, yes, he maybe hasn't played great in the last three to six months,
but we haven't seen him in a major in the last three to six months.
And I feel like we need to see him in a major before we have, like,
let's have this conversation after the Masters.
We can.
The answer was for right now.
And Bryson doesn't play on a consistent competitive level against consistent competition enough to,
like, what Cameron just did is more impressive than winning.
three live events.
Totally.
I couldn't agree more.
I'm just saying that the last three times
that Bryson's teed it up against,
last four times that Bryson's teed up against
legitimate competition.
He's played quite well.
Much better than K.
And T.C., though, I'm actually surprised
that your argument was for Bryson and not P.
As the second best American.
Three or four times.
Four times.
Four and five,
champ.
I mean, I can't believe you didn't bring P up as the second best
American Walter.
He's more of a citizen of the world these days.
You know, he's playing everywhere.
Over the last six months,
or basically dating back to the beginning of August last year,
Stroke's gain-wise.
Scotty 3.21,
Cam Young, 2.30.
Russell Henley, 1.9 for top Americans over the last six months,
or whatever that would is back to the beginning of August.
When he switched golf balls,
like when he became this guy,
that's the thing is like,
this happened after major season last year for him,
in terms of transforming himself as a player.
And we'll see what happens when we get to the big events.
But it's just an interesting, interesting question right now.
Can I ask a dumb question?
Please.
Is this a hot streak for Cam or is this a new level?
Or that's the whole question.
New level, new devil.
Yeah.
So I had some stats that I, Cody, I sent you a graphic from day to golf because my eyes,
DG brought up that Cam was third and strokes gained approach.
But I found today and yesterday, Paige McKeague,
Kenzie brought it up on live from this morning. I thought it was a good point. He seems to struggle
from like a hundred, but 80 to 120, which is a shot for how far he hits it. Like it's like, man,
that kind of feels like it should be the, you know, something we're trending on. So this is a stat,
these are from data golf, like the approach breakdown stuff. The trend is not great. So the two-year
trend and the last 12 months compared to those two, like he's, he's just way down in like,
proximity, greens and regulations slightly down, but just like not dialed with wedges.
Now, his bad shot avoidance is good.
It's not like he's, you know, off the planet.
But like it kind of lined up with my eye test the last couple days where it's like,
oh, man, we got to do a little bit better.
Now, at the end of the day, 17 and 18, he stuff, you know, he hit two really good shots
when he absolutely needed it.
But I'm thinking about like 15.
I'm thinking about earlier in the round where like I think on 9 he had a wet, no,
90 was in the wilderness, but there were just a lot of wedges where I'm like,
God, we have to get closer than that.
Like, what are we doing?
And it does feel TC to use an analogy, like he's throwing a little bit with the, you know,
the top of the bag.
Like, it's not, he's so long.
And that's the toughest part to be in the long is you have to dump a bunch of speed with your
wedges.
That's a really hard skill to learn.
He also probably didn't love that trend line didn't look.
great to me. If I was picking, like, and the reason I bring it up is like, yeah, he won the tournament, so who cares?
And then I'm like, okay, third strokes gained. So, you know, approach. But if I'm thinking, Randy, to your question, is this a hot streak? It's like, it doesn't feel, when those clubs aren't super dialed, it feels hard to be sustainable because proximity is kind of like the name of the game.
I would caution just the sample size of what you're using for that, Neil, because like if you look at that, that was for 2020. That was for 2020.
and I look at it for 2025 as well.
And he's definitely, he's way, way down just compared to other players.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And I don't know exactly what goes into, I just on his actual page that they do like a breakdown of like his expected skill from certain areas.
And I don't know what the aging is on shots like that.
But from 100 to 150, they have him as like a 90th percentile player.
You know, he's green through the bag on approach shots.
Like he's an excellent, his excellent approach.
I would put the question to you guys.
Like, did you, until literally the last two holes,
did you feel like he was like lagging irons this week?
You know, hitting it close with wedges this week.
Like I didn't think that until the very end of the tournament.
I felt like he was always a threat as somebody that had a Cameron Young 30 to one ticket
and was sweating that out very much throughout the course of this week.
Like, I never felt like.
like we were out of it, you know.
If you click the breakdown button up near the top right there next to the, the Pentagon up
there, Cody, that'll show the approach skill by category.
But, you know, it was firm out there.
It was a really tough test.
Like it's, it wasn't a dart fest, you know.
So it, uh, what was a good wedge shot this week that might not look the same as what
like a good wedge shot might look on a week to week basis on tour.
So that's something else is now that he's putting much better than he has,
historically. I think that relieves
so much pressure on your wedges
mentally, like psychologically of
feeling like you have to jam it in there
within four feet in order to make a birdie
instead of, oh no, like I'm, I have a
pretty good shot at making this from anything
inside 12 or 15. I would love
to get a putting breakdown.
Dej, if I had one of these
photos shoots this year and cams there,
take me to the putting green sir.
What have you changed? I would love to learn about it.
A couple things. I think
Faxon had a great note about
about his friend that's been caddian for him for the last, I mean, basically since Swindham, right?
Or has been that one?
The Canadian Open. So just before the hot streak started, who, you know, Faxon said it a couple
times. But basically like, oh, he's not reading any of his puts. Like, he just, he's got his buddy
on the bag because he's the best green reader that he knows. And he's just, you know, I'm sure
it's an oversimplification, like kind of, you know, exaggeration. But he's basically like,
oh, he reads the greens. He tells me where to hit it and I hit it. And I've been putting a lot
better. So it might truly be one of those things where it's just like, was a bad green reader or wasn't
jiving with the past caddies or who knows. Being illiterate, Dej. I feel you. What strikes me about that,
tying it back to what Randy said earlier is like, is this a hot streak or as he changed the floor,
is what I would say, like, zooming way out is like, wow, he's just been like putting his face off.
So like, that's kind of where the most improvement has come from. So if that continues, then the floor's
gone up, but like, do that ever, does that ever continue? Like forever? I don't know if that just like,
if that switch just. Because Xander flits, right? Like guys make putts for six months, eight months,
kind of a year sort of thing. But I don't think it's like, oh, that guy used to suck. And now
he just became the best putter in the world for like 12 straight years. I mean, I guess Scottie's
kind of doing that right now. I would argue his ball striking flip to. I mean, his approach,
if you look at his approach graph, you know, since this time last year, it looks at,
like a completely different shape.
Like it was going the wrong direction.
Now it's,
it's going a completely different direction.
Same with off the T game.
He went from a okay driver around this time last year to back to being really,
really, really good on top of completely flipping everything about putting.
It's,
man,
this is where like you got to balance out.
Of course,
we're sponsored by this company and I,
we do ads for this.
But like,
this is like a magic golf ball for him.
Like he switched to this golf ball.
He was in a,
like,
you know,
ignore the ad part because he was in a title of golf ball before this as well.
But whatever he changed, this change that he has made,
it correlates perfectly with a complete and total makeover of his game.
And won twice since it had never won before.
Now he's won twice, including the players and played a ton of good golf in between that.
And the Ryder Cup.
Yeah, and the Ryder Cup had that moment.
I kind of just think that's hard to think that it's a hot streak.
At this time last year, what do you think his day to golf ranking was during the Players' Week last year?
41.
I'll say
28.
108.
Whoa.
Yes.
Whoa.
Yeah.
It's not just putting.
I mean,
it's,
it's a master class of ball striking.
He's one of the best ball strikers in the world,
and now he puts the shit out of it.
It's,
it's a really,
really scary evolution.
And we'll say,
just to clear some of that up.
So Kyle Serbinski,
he's his college,
roommate. They played, uh, they played a weight together. So he's not just a friend that's out there.
Like, he's a very accomplished golfer. So I hope people don't think that like, Cam just has a
random guy that's carrying his golf bag out. This guy just, I'm on the player.
He just, he's kind of like a beautiful mind. But it is very interesting because we've seen kind
of the evolution that Cam has gone through with with caddies. And like he, I think he got
advice. It was like, remember the Paltissori, uh, period? Whereas like, he has to be with this
professional caddy, this veteran who can help guide and steer him around out there.
And really, it's just like, no, he just needs to be with his buddy who like can help him
out, read some puts every once in a while. And like, they just work really well together.
Dude, Cody, I had, I was out at Bel Air and my catty out there, Scott McKean.
Same thing. Played played college golf with Cam. And then cattyed for him his first, I don't know,
three, four years as a professional. And like, it was the same thing. Like it was his buddy, also like,
really good player like played you know played a bunch of uh mini horse stuff and and you know was was
a really good player at wake but yeah like he's it's it's kind of like like once another dude on
the bag that he can that he can vibe with and hang out with as well i guess guys i struggle a little
bit with like people and maybe this is just because i root for these people people seem to be like
really really just jumping like chomping at the bit to shit on ludvin
or to shit on
like Cam,
Cam didn't win for,
I think it's more you T.C.
Yeah.
They want to shit on you, T.C.
Let's, let's not vilify.
People are like, oh,
Zander's a dog.
Zander's a dude.
Zander choked away a bunch of majors
and a bunch of tournaments.
Remember Augusta?
Well,
are we talking about Ludwig,
or are we talking about Zander?
No, we're just talking about,
generally speaking.
Like, I think people need to have patience
with these guys's careers.
Like, it's not like,
I don't think.
No, thank you.
No, thank you.
Is that, Randy?
Nicholson was your favorite player for, for, for, for, I know.
And there was no patience with him, right?
The whole media arc was like, this guy can never win the big one.
You had patience.
You know what I mean?
And do you believe in this guy or not?
And evident, you guys don't believe in Ludwig.
It's, it's crazy.
We do.
100% believe in Lutvig.
TC.
There wasn't even a question that preceded whatever you're on right now.
No, it's been, I've been stewing on this for the last half hour.
put your own target on your back
and you shot at it. That's what everybody's so
mad. I mean, who's done
this? Who lit the match on this?
Got to learn how to close the door. We all just need to
cool. We all just need to cool down.
Yeah.
Why is everything so hyperbolic about
Ludwig? I don't understand.
I'm buying up
all the stock that you guys are selling.
What did you say at Slack
today that all the haters, nobody
believed it of this week? I fucking finished
third last
Last week.
Ludwig.
Ludwig.
Yeah.
T's like,
you guys were shitting all over.
I just have no time for the Xander people that are like, oh,
this guy won a fake major at Valhalla.
And he choked away some stuff.
You really are laughing out.
32 or 34.
Yeah, it's,
it's ridiculous.
That's the real.
I'm sure him and him and came.
What about the files?
I'm not worried about Ludwig.
at all. I think he's
I think he's
all right great
get us back on the rails here.
You know we have not talked
about Matt Fitzpatrick
barely at all guys
almost won the golf tournament
came up one shot short.
I just had this stat
that I kept kind of going back to
missed the fairway at 18
he drove the shit
out of the ball this week
he led the field in fairways hit
he missed the fairway at 18
all four days.
I think he missed like 12 fairways
13 total fairways
and he missed that one all four days
just a shot that clearly like was in his head.
He played the 18th three over for the week.
But not a guy that, you know, T.C., I think you said this,
what was that last night, maybe?
Just a guy that like seems like he would play Pete Dygolff courses really, really well.
And also just like wasn't on my mind until, you know, really like that we made the turn.
Where it was like, oh shit, Fitz, Fitz is going to win this.
And yeah, just I was struck and you guys take it in any direction you want.
bit truly struck by
the move he was putting on the driver. He looked
like he was putting every ounce
he had into it correlated
with how fucking straight he was hitting the driver.
And how low? Just bullets, man.
It was so impressive
from him today.
But one more thing about Ludwig. I just
don't understand.
I'd say
impressive round run 70,
round 269, 68.
Just kind of there all week.
quietly and just yay charge of
leader I don't Matt Fitzpatrick he is not scared
but you know he's just he's got like
it was such a juxtaposition he's got no swag
like I like Fitzpatrick but it's just kind of like
it's not
it's not the most exciting golf package
that you're going to get you know I was like
oh Fitzpatrick gonna win that kind of feels like
a dumping cold water on this watching Ludwig
gas it away he's also he's also
kind of the poster boy
for this tournament too. Like we kept
joking in the preview. Like, has anybody ever played
well here? He
finished T9 in 2021.
So top tens.
Misses the cut. Misses the cut.
finishes fifth. Misses the cut.
finishes second. It's just like, yeah, that's
kind of TBC songgrass right there.
I felt bad for fits kind of with
the jingoism came out
there near the end, as reported by
our own TC of
I knew. I had a feeling he was going to
missed the puddle on 18 and I was like they're gonna they're gonna cheer when he misses it and that's
just that's tough that's not we're about unfortunately might be what we're about but there's no uh
there's no I don't know I like fits he's a really easy guy to root for um it is interesting when
he talks he's you know you are right Neil he's not oozing swag I like him too I am dissing him
but he doesn't have any swag the aesthetic yeah because it's kind of dump games interesting
sketchers all.
Yeah.
I'm a fitz fan.
The Skechers make blowbys?
They might exclusively make blowbys.
It's only the Romo collection out of it.
Yeah.
He did handle it well, you know, said, like,
they got a long ways to go before it turns into Beth Page out there.
He was smiling about it even, you know, on 18T.
Like, he handled it really, really well.
And I was, I don't know, still rooting for Cam in that moment just because of the excitement
factor of the comfort behind and things like that.
But I was a little gutted.
And to be honest, we were also rooting for no playoff.
Yes.
Just because weather.
We're commercial old media people now at this point.
It would have been.
It would have nuked our night and nuke tomorrow.
So that was all good, good for business.
Yeah, he was definitely like it got somewhat partisan there, 16, 17, 18.
And then 18T, it really ramped up.
He was taking it fine.
Like he was, he was smiling about it.
He was laughing about it in good spirits.
And I think, A,
I think we, Randy, you've been on this block a little bit.
I think we need to bring bullying back.
Like some of the shit that people, that people yell in these galleries is, is, is, is so
uncreative and bad and stuff.
And like, if you do that, like, you should be fair game.
Like, all right, cool.
Like, you know what?
Shut the fuck up, man.
You know, like, just just.
100% TC.
Those people are trying to bring bullying back, you know.
Yeah.
And then I think, and then I think also, you know, you know,
If Keegan, Keegan finished T50.
I think if Keegan would have been one of those final groups,
I think we would have lost control of the situation.
And Keegan would have been a culprit.
Your guy, your captain.
Sol it would have been pumping people up.
Yeah, more.
Come on, harass them.
We need it.
T.C., this kind of sounds suspiciously like you're about to start going down the leaderboard,
which is I think exactly what we should probably do, Cody,
unless you got something before that.
I just want to give one big shout out.
fits. I know that
that sucks. That's not the way that he wanted to finish
on 18, but the first thing that he did was walk
over and say congratulations to Cam's
family, which
is awesome to see. And he mentioned in his
post around presser that
surprisingly they're like, yeah, we're on the same
TGL team together. Crazy
how much TGL impacted. They were like
old trends out there. It was crazy.
You know, guys,
for TGL team mates. Yeah.
I love. I'm in the sim together, man.
Yeah. Like the modern weight room now.
I'll say this too for fits like bogeing 18 on a course that has a very real 18th hole is different than like giving one away as well.
I mean, it's like a fucking hard asshole.
Yeah.
And if you're going to give away a tournament by bogey and the 18th, I feel like that course is like number one list.
Like that's kind of in the models.
100%.
I actually, again, TC, I've been thinking more about your wind take.
I agree with what you're saying on the downwind on 18.
I think it's.
That's where like I, I mean, I'll stick up.
for Xander in that like hitting
the iron there against your
stuff.
I know everybody's been coming at Zander lately
I can't believe out
man in the water. It's Xander's been getting.
No, but I'll stick up
for Zander for hitting iron off that
T and leaving himself.
A lot. A lot.
Like that's, that was the right play.
Yeah, it's not
it's a little hitting a driver up the left.
Yeah, it's not easier downwind.
You could get to the spot where a fairway
wood would get with iron when it's downwind.
You have a long ways in.
And that shot's also going to be,
at least somewhat downwind as well.
But it is hard to hit the fairway.
You got to get a ballsyer route with driver downwind, I think, is the full answer.
It's much more cinched up up there.
You have to be more decisive.
Cam's drive was absurd tied for the lead of the players.
Again, going first and not knowing what's going to happen behind him.
That's another thing, too, that like, again, I know we're back on Cam,
but that had to drive a little bit of, oh, shit and fits.
Like, I might need three here now to stay in this after that T-shot.
Oh, it was like, yeah, what did Hicks say longest of the day by 20 yards?
I think Rory hit one like 359 and Cam's was 375.
As long as did history.
Yeah, unbelievable.
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sophy plus tc we've talked cameo we've talked fits we've talked zander we have not talked
big shop bob yeah big shop bob and sudarshan had the they were what low low men on the
weekend uh 65 69 for for the great man big shot bob uh he made so many birdies this
weekend. He made what nine yesterday. And it's like he made six today. He made 15 birdies at TPC
sawgrass in the weekend. It's, that's remarkable. Robert. Back to back top tens for him at the players
as well. Yeah. Big Shot Bob keeps popping around. He keeps doing his thing. Like I think he, he might
snag a major. I'm, I'm nervous. He got zero point zero percent respect on our best players without a
major podcast. Didn't even think about him. T.C.
Who do you think the best lefty in the world is right now?
Oh.
I mean, it's Bob because Akshay's anchoring.
Oh, interesting.
And, like Randy, your, your Akshay take that, like, lefties play well at Augusta and
Oxy is going to win the most.
His take was that Occe will be the next lefty to win in Augusta.
Yeah, that was his take.
Do you feel at all similar with, with a big shop, Bob?
I do.
He's got to look.
as does Soudar, Sean.
I'm not familiar with his game until today.
Yeah, Big Shot Bob.
I think Big Shot Bob consistently outplays my expectations for him.
So I have a lot of respect for him.
And he will always be one of my favorites because I wonder Dege if he was purging at all this evening.
Or if this was a good enough result that he didn't have to.
He famously gives himself an hour just to absolutely.
go mental after tournaments
if he's upset.
God, I just talk about something I completely
forgot about it. What did he tell you that?
No, it was in a press conference?
Was it like, I don't think he's like
trashed hotel rooms necessarily, but that was almost
like how it was pitched. Like, I just, I go back
and I give myself an hour, I just go nuts.
I just get it all out.
Like, what the fuck does that do?
Can you imagine if he went and trashed a
hotel room at the sacred sawgrass
Marion? Exactly. I know.
Especially under new ownership, T. Bob struggles
a little bit like Fitzpatrick just
a bad aesthetic just
you know just has never found in the
shirts it's so tough
yeah so tough I think
I think Bob needs I think Tommy needs to take Bob under his
wing like hey I would be
come leave Nike with me I just
I do you think Nike is recommending
like is it an inside joke with him like
yo let's see if he says yes to the orange shirt
how about let's see if he says yes to the brown
one and he does it's like
Nike it's a joke or something
famously stopped making clubs quite a few years ago
this might just be like old stuff from the warehouse that they're like I don't know we got
just send them all this stuff from like 2017 it's like when Luke got there used to give us
yeah exactly stuff teach exactly exactly it's funny with McIntyre because it's like obviously he's a
world-class player and one of the best in the world but because of the aesthetic I'm kind of like
can you really get it airborne can you can you can you hit a five iron up in the air like
and a lecture you know that always looks that always are you sure you have all the shots really
Are we going to keep moving, T.C.
Yeah, sorry.
All right.
The guy that got his money right this week,
Soudarhan, Yala Miraju.
Guys, he made his career earnings to this point,
$881,000.
He made $925,000 this week.
And there's no state income tax in Florida as well.
Huge.
I didn't even put two and two together there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's a substantial.
It got him inside the Aon Next 10.
and he is up to 30th in the FedEx Cup.
As a rookie, coming off to Corn Ferry Tour,
someone who can't dictate his schedule and get ahead of it.
That to me is like, that's remarkable.
And finishing T5 is basically,
I think there's more stuff that comes with that as well.
And not really playing like awesome golf coming into this either.
I mean, he had a great year on the Corn Ferry Tour last year.
But yeah, like you said, kind of inconsistent starts
and hasn't really taken advantage when he,
when he has gotten, you know, to play,
had a good,
good week at Sony,
but other than that,
it's been a little.
66,
68 on the weekend is.
Yeah.
I mean,
DT was 67th in the FedEx
coming into this week.
Yeah,
I was up the 30th.
Like,
he was T13 in Hawaii,
T17 at the Cognizant.
But like,
yeah,
going like one of the guys that went to Puerto Rico last week
instead of going to Bay Hill,
you know,
and then comes into the players and plays well.
So immense respect for that.
So,
yeah.
he's our get get your money right guys speaking of which we have a new fedex cup number one
hell yeah the bridgeman went from third to one randy does i mean how does that make you feel
all kinds of things tc i'm i'm gonna need a little time to process it's sprung it on me i'm just
getting word uh i didn't know that uh bridgman was felt like such a what what could have been this
week. He's 10 shots to the field. Bad shots and then he bounced back and hits a good. I know. I just,
I think he's really, really good. Yeah. I do too. Uh, we talked Ludwig plenty. Tommy.
He's got he. You see how perfect was this, man. The most non-competitive top 10 of his career
potentially. It was special stuff. This elegance. He's like one of the new Formula One cars. He's harvesting
energy into these turns.
He's charging up the batteries, Neil,
because he's going to need all that energy
for Shinnecock and Burkdale this year.
All right.
What did Sep do down the stretch?
Sepp finished T8, but what did he do?
We'll get there.
Yeah, that's true.
So he's got a specific one,
but just largely like,
just drove it horrible, I think, this week, didn't he?
It was like a guy that usually drives it, like,
really, really straight.
And he just was all over the map and just kept somehow
making enough birdies to stick around.
But an overperform week,
I think, for our guy, Giuseppe Straka.
Mr. Oakes.
J.T. You guys buying stock?
T.8? I have no idea.
I was going to ask you guys that, too.
I had that as a big takeaway question.
Does J.T. win this year?
I don't have a clue.
72, 72 on the weekend,
kind of ran out of gas a little bit,
68, 68, and then backed up.
I'll say this. I felt,
I felt like J.T.
felt more mature this.
week. I thought he was really patient.
He had some bad stuff
happened. He caused it to happen, so it wasn't like it
happened to him. But I thought he played
really patient, and
I think he is going to win
this year.
This was promising coming off
back surgery. I thought this was a very promising
week for him.
And coming off of 79, 79.
Yeah. It's a good question.
It's, I mean,
the questions, like, the questions,
hey, is Scottie going to start hoovering up tournaments again
and leave not very many for a lot of guys to win?
It would be the reason I would say,
I'd be surprised if he won this year,
just because he's going to be in all the big events,
the ones that are pretty hard to win.
I think JT wins this week at Valspar.
Okay, there you go.
Yeah.
I think he likes that golf course.
The field for Valspar is like low-key pretty good.
I think that's going to be a sneaky great tournament this week.
T-11, Patrick Rogers.
uh inside the inside the inside the a on next 10 inside the top 30 do we put you in a dumpster
yeah i got yeah i was saying i think kind of you know nothing nothing but find things to say
about patrick rogers kind of had the ski mask on this week just an anonymous yeah give me give me
all the money give me 600 grand to put it in this pillowcase so we get out of here uh yeah he's kind
of morphed into a mule over the last few years which just like i i was actually talking to the data guy
the data golf guys about him.
And they were like, it's crazy.
His career progression,
he's just stayed Tor average
as the Tor average skill level has gotten better
and better and better.
He's just stayed right there at Tor average.
I don't know if you can calm a mule.
He's in the Siggy's.
I know, but he's just like he never really sniffs winning.
It's kind of like New Age Cam Tringale, right?
It's a good comp.
I wonder if he is a what if that we'll,
would never know, but obviously coming off like an insane college career, insane junior
career. I wonder if he's one of those runs. If he's one of those guys that like, you know,
if he lucks into a some win early in his career, I wonder if he has a totally different air about
about it, you know, and just like gets started on a different trajectory.
Well, you know, he came out on tour off top of your head.
20, 2014. 11. 2015. Yeah. He's been, it's never lost his card. I know. It's, it's,
Who was the other guy you play with at Stanford?
Cameron Wilson.
Yeah.
Guy was so good too.
And he became, yeah, I don't know what happened to him.
I think he was, wasn't he like a rocket scientist or something?
He was super smart, I think.
Anyway, Brian Harmon,
Neil, you called, you know,
Harmon got blown out to see a little bit today, 73,
you know, T-11.
Sam Burns, pretty solid.
He had 76, then three rounds in the 60s to bounce back.
That was kind of a weird stink.
for him day one.
He tied with Akshay, Brooks,
the weekend, Russell Henley,
the great man team Rose,
Austin Smotherman,
Corey Connors,
and Victor Hovland,
all at T-13.
A very good steady week for Akshay
coming off the dub.
Yeah, 71, 71, 7070.
Yeah.
Brooks,
is he over-delivering,
under-delivering,
or just kind of in line
with what your expectations were?
I mean, I thought this was good.
That's a tick over delivering, I think.
Yeah.
Over delivering because he lowered the bar quite low in terms of like the
form that he, this version of Brooks is far from impressive as a,
as the golfer that we know him as.
But a couple nice weeks switched to the mallet and getting back in Florida and getting off Poa.
And I mean, T-13th to players, man, that's 120 man feel with a cut.
Four very serious rounds of major like.
test being
can't let him sneak up
come major time. It's good enough
play that you have to at least
sound the alarm bells and we cannot go
35 minutes into the Masters preview without
mentioning them, which I don't think I would have said
like three weeks ago. So I think it's a really
solid trend. I agree.
I think, I mean, he kind of
wrecks his rig on 18. He doubled
the last hole. Otherwise, he would have been
easy top 10 as well.
He had won Miles right on 18.
guys the weekend is really good
hits out soon a like that was a big takeaway i had from on site this week i
watched him play a few holes the apex is high the the speed is there
he goes after it yeah like he's just my lineups this week gun
he uh he hit one on 18 solid today he hit one 341 up the left side
he had 120 25 yards in he's got some he's got some he's got
got some bear there.
Got some pop.
Good week for Austin.
Smotherman there at T-13.
Scotty, T-22.
Randy, what was your Scotty grade this week?
Oh, you guys are going to hate me for this.
I actually take more good from this week than bad.
I have them like, be minded.
I don't hate you for that.
I hate you for it.
I hate you, Randy.
Yeah.
I hate your guts.
I think clearly fighting it.
showing where the floor is.
I mean,
the floor remains high.
I trust him.
I think he'll,
whatever he's got to figure out,
I trust him and figure out.
That chippy hit on 16 today.
I don't know.
Oh, sick.
Dirty, dirty, dirty.
That was one of my shots of the day.
Yeah, I'm high on him.
I'm not hitting the panic button, as I said, Friday.
Is he going to play Houston?
You took words out of my mouth, T.C.
we see him again do we see rory again we got three events was it valspar
houston and then uh what's the other texas event
palero i think more likely just because it's texas that you see scotty
uh i don't think we see roary i agree with you his his quote was i'll see i haven't
really made a decision either way i'll see how my body feels we'll see how i feel in practice
and at home if i get if i get itchy feet at home maybe add an event at
some point, which doesn't feel like, what you just, yeah, I just don't see him like adding,
like, I can't wait to get to Houston.
Yeah.
Can we?
I would hope, sorry, I would hope Scotty plays just because he does have to, you know,
I feel like he is trying to fight through something.
I feel like the more tournament reps you can have, the better.
Are you guys worried at all about his swing?
Some of that stuff Randall was saying is just as far as like the swing being so much shorter
than it was a year ago or I can't remember what the baseline that he used was, but.
He said it was a foot and a half shorter, which I think was just a lot.
I don't think that would.
Right, but that's Brandel.
He also said that Scotty's Corey Pavin of this generation.
Corpavon.
Yo, can we get a due date?
Like, that's a big looming question ahead of the first major of the year and one that he probably should win is like, are we going to have a beeper situation?
And is this going to happen, you know?
What if we had a beeper situation?
And then he withdrew and all the all the gamblers and the in the fantasy guys just being apollo
all these lineups are wrecked.
That's me and me.
I don't even joke about that T.C.
Don't even joke about that happening.
Hold on.
That brings up the baby thing brings up that it hit me watching Cam Young's press conference.
He's like, yeah, my family's with me like almost every week.
And I'm just like, man, he's got three kids and he's just flying around like all over the country.
I don't know if he's flying private.
I mean, he's 1, 104 in the data golf last year.
It's like I feel like they're taking commercial flights.
Like, just a lot of that jets won't talk to you if you're not inside the top.
I would think so.
I don't know.
It's an interesting question, though.
It's just like, man, I just got to hit with taking two kids up to flight a couple of weeks ago,
not for the faint of heart, man.
The dude that week over week is.
But think about how fucking stoked you'd be to go practice your chipping after that.
All right.
See you guys.
All right, guys.
I got to get out of it.
I got to get out of here.
I got to go work on my shipping right now, right now.
It's incredible.
Yeah,
maybe he's just got an incredible perspective.
You know,
he's just pumped to be out of the golf course.
He's not showing you.
You know,
he's not showing it to you,
but it's got to be there.
Uh,
I got two more.
We got Speed at T32.
You got covered down on Speed.
Did we see a close life there?
We had the one stinker on Saturday,
the Saturday 76.
We need somebody to put a ringer.
score together for Jordan.
Like over four days,
I bet he almost birdies every hole out on in a tournament.
That's such a good idea for a roll app.
The ringer score for a week.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a great call.
Lowest,
lowest final round like,
or like lowest,
you know,
lowest round bonuses each day and then the ringer score.
He was a,
we could do annuities like they did at the,
uh,
Lehers and Lehman Brothers.
Both.
He was,
uh,
some good good quotes about like look i i get it man i know what it looks like but it is it's
there it's good enough it's good enough that i can do what i'm doing for stretches it's just
gonna blow up at times that's gonna there's bad code in there tc he probably by jordan's right to know that
vibe code and too much stuff trying to fix all this stuff and it's just falling apart yeah but now he's
got a i i don't that's the problem he can't even find the bugs you know there's all these
It's hallucination.
He said that this is like...
The whole economy's built on it now, though.
Paul had a great thing in his newsletter.
He said, you know, talking about speed.
He's like, yeah, like, I haven't...
My swing isn't but good in 10 years.
I haven't swung it well for the last 10 years.
Good stuff.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Rain, what do you think?
Is he close or way?
No, I think he's so far away.
And that kills me.
Like, I want to think he's close.
I think he's so far away.
I hate it.
Well, that's good, actually, based on how your predictions
went this week.
That's true.
That's the best.
That's the final.
I would look for him.
If he's playing Val's bar, I would look for him to win.
Finally, a silver lining.
What about Sa'a?
Where do you finish today?
Solly, where do you finish?
He shot 77 today, Sally.
Total control of his golf ball.
Yeah, paced it.
God, I stay hot, baby.
Let's go.
You have literally on a perfect week, I'm pretty sure.
What was your bold prediction on the?
on the preview pot.
I think somebody
was going to hit it in the water.
It's something to do with 18, which I don't think
happened.
Yeah, 18 down the stretch with the water.
Okay.
Well, T.C.,
I think that takes us maybe to the end of
down the leaderboard.
I do want a shout out to Kuma
Kaniah.
Way down.
He bounced like from his 80.
He shot 81 yesterday.
It bounced back to a 72 today.
Yeah, I did see big tone
struggled, Sally, with a
gun and 75, 77 on the
weekend. Talk about close.
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Neil, let's go to a segment that, you know, we need to get this this segment sponsored.
We don't know what we're calling it.
Neil's Notables.
I'm bringing a monster energy for this segment.
Icarito's insights.
We did this on Thursday.
It was what spawned the Hideki walks like a toddler after he makes a birdie.
I didn't get,
he didn't get much camera time after this,
but keep an eye on that,
guys.
I really want to know if I'm fishing in the right pond with the Hadecki.
What do we have the notebook today?
Well,
so I had KM being able to pull off the necklace.
We already talked about that.
I think first up,
Cody,
I sent you the graphic,
Fitsy's pre-shot chest flex slash like stretch.
He kind of hits this.
This deal.
It's like, yeah.
Yeah, you know, it's like kind of, you know, I like doing it on every like key shot, like every full swing he was getting just the traps and the chest all loosey goosey, which I just found kind of to be funny because it was clearly part of the routine and I haven't seen anything that physical in somebody's routine.
It looks like one of those birds of prey.
Yeah, it's going to make himself bigger.
Shoulders back, you know, just kind of trying to feel the alpha in them.
I like it.
I had that.
I think I also had just Fitsy walking in puts in the highlighter accident at sketchers.
Just didn't really hit.
You know, I was like,
dude,
I don't know,
man.
It does not working for me.
Again,
I feel like I'm clowning them.
I have a ton of respect for Fitzpatrick.
I think he's super comfortable in his own skin.
He's a gamer.
He's not scared of the moment.
Like you said it earlier,
Salli,
I don't think that he like gassed it on 18.
That didn't feel like a choke job.
by any stretch. He got into a bad spot off the tea and I thought he put a pretty good stroke on
that last putt. It just didn't go in. But a couple things. He does have some just stuff where you're like,
man, that's just not very cool. You know, that's just kind of part of his thing. But he's not,
I'm good. I'm not, I'm not trying to be. That's right. And that's what I, but you know, it's just,
these are things I'm noticing. So we're going to call him out. I think this one was awesome.
Another one that made me sit up in my, in my chair today. Bridgman,
flying at 30 yards over the green on number 11.
I think I sent Cody a pick.
I mean, look at the splash on this, guys.
There's like 10 yards of bunker there.
It was from 2.70.
He was standing back there.
Like, I've never seen anything like that.
And as somebody that likes to fly greens, that warmed my heart.
So I want to shout that one out.
Neil, I regret to inform you.
I think you might the, I don't think that splash is like it's a fountain back there.
He missed right.
Yeah, he didn't, he didn't fly.
No, no, no, no.
That's Bridgman.
I went back and rewound this.
took a picture of it. That is the splash on
his ball. Yeah, that's just right of the
that's short right. Oh,
is it? I thought that was behind the green.
Oh, fuck. Okay, because I was like 270.
What the fuck. All right. We gotta be
careful. We're wobbling.
My correction. My God, man,
you got a man on base.
No, long day watching
ball. That's, that's on me.
Okay, Rory's answer to whether or not
we will see him at TGL match
on Tuesday.
Question, can we expect to see you at
TGL on Tuesday?
We'll see.
yeah, geez.
I haven't even, yeah, we'll see.
Geez, geez, he'll be.
Yeah, hit him with a geez there, Randy.
That's gonna move, move the betting line.
Fired up about this match.
Huge for my squad.
I will, no, I want, I want to beat,
I want to beat Boston with Rory in the lineup.
It's not the same as if he's not there.
Yeah, I want that they're best.
What do you do?
Are you pre-gaming anywhere, Sally?
Is there any, geez, we'll see.
I mean, yeah, I haven't even.
Finals.
I haven't, it's a semis, T.C.
Come on.
I can only imagine the look on Rory's face when he got that.
geez, that's Tuesday.
I mean,
oh,
God,
I forgot to start this thing.
There's a test on Tuesday.
Oh, God.
I have not studied.
That's very,
very relatable stuff.
All right,
I've got roll up announcing no ropes
behind the final group on 18.
Dij,
I stole this one from you.
And then the final group being very,
very much not in it.
I felt like,
it was like a big announcement.
We came into the booth
to announce that one.
And it was like,
yeah,
man,
that just seems funny to me now.
There was a split second
when I saw those people
like right of
I was like, oh, maybe they're just going to let the ropes go for this group anyways, like for this second to last group.
Like that would, that would be kind of sick.
But they opted not to do that.
T.C., I had Tommy shooting 68 and sneaking in yet another uncompetitive top 10.
We already talked about that.
And then, Randy, this one's for you.
I don't mean to bully Fitsy, but just English droughts and sporting events just tickles me.
You got to obviously the World Cup.
I'm going to throw Wimbledon in here because Murray's Scottish.
any Murray Scottish
So like that's just
You're gonna pit some people off
Yeah for sure
Well though I already pissed him off
Because I called him English long ago
And they were like he's not English
He's Scottish well you know
Pick one
PGA championship
No English winner ever
Yeah it might be a credit to them
I don't know
potentially
But I just I just always feel like that
As a sporting country
It's it just
I know that warms your heart
So I threw that one in there for you
It feels like a miss on a whiff on
Team Rose's career resume.
Players.
Yeah.
And the reason I brought it up is because the players continued
that has no English winner in, what,
53 years or whatever it's been.
Last but not least, guys,
I'm ready to declare this not a major
simply because the Italian wasn't there.
If NBC's not going to bring Toriko,
we can't call it a major.
Period, point blank, full stop.
You guys just, you dictated this.
If you're not going to bring your A player,
to the players, then we can't call it a major.
My guy's got to be wiped.
He's been putting in a punch in the clock in the last couple of months here.
I understand Olympic Super Bowl.
I get it.
Home game for him though?
NBA too.
They've got big NBA games.
But that tells you something, right?
Like, I bet we'll see him at the U.S. Open, right?
Because that's a major.
And it's hard.
I don't know if this is a hamster damn thing, but they close it all out.
And I, like, individually, I still like all three of these guys, like Faxon, Kisner and Terry
Ganon was like their closing, you know, chat, like putting a wrap on this event. And it just
didn't feel big, you know, like, I don't think like Terry Gan's totally fine announcer, you know,
it just, it just didn't feel big, man. And that they've not been able to fill in behind Johnny
and Gary and Raj. And not at all. Well, and I get to your point, all of them in a vacuum,
I'm like, you're, you're good, solid, but it's just too many voices. But it needed to be like,
I need to go to Toriko there, honestly,
just to make it feel like a bigger sporting event.
Rico and the Clapper.
Jack Carlin.
I love,
I personally love Ganon.
Talk hoops with them.
This is not,
I think on a broadcast,
though,
on a golf broadcast,
he is like the Zero War.
Like,
he is replacement level to me.
He's Thursday afternoon.
Yeah.
You know,
the travelers.
Then we get a big chatter about Furek,
but then he's not around,
because I guess that's golf channel.
It's just like,
it's so mixed up, man.
And I,
one thing that hit me a little bit was what I took away from like roll-app stuff on Wednesday
is just what a difference,
just clear communication is and just like say,
and NBC's not being clear.
It's like, who do you want me to like who matters, man?
Who invested in.
Yeah, it's not,
there's nothing clear about the broadcast.
It's like there's just too many people.
And we're throwing way too much at the wall right now.
And that just doesn't, it just doesn't seem necessary.
How was it like generally this weekend other than like was the, were the tracers good?
Was the commercial load good?
Yeah.
I thought it was above average overall.
Yeah.
Like better than better than at from an NBC standpoint.
It was it felt like a good effort.
Three, you know, three years ago, four years ago, like they were throwing everything at the problem and basically being like, see like we're capable of.
of a great week, you know, when we want to rise to the occasion.
It doesn't even feel like that anymore.
It felt like better than the normal week, but not better than the normal players.
They really needed it to get exciting.
Like the broadcast got better when Ludwig hit in the water.
Yes.
You know, it's like, Randy, you had it on your grade sheet for NBC.
Would you have there?
Yeah.
I don't love, I just think in totality, it's,
It's like a C minus from them because the commercial load was not the issue.
And so that's like great.
You know, shut out the sponsors or whatever.
But like in a tight golf tournament of this magnitude,
I can't tell you one interesting thing Kiz said down the stretch.
I think it's just a total whiff having him in the analyst chair.
I just don't think he adds anything.
But you just got to bypass every level.
Like he just went.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
He's not giving us former player insights.
He's not, he just, it's a total whiff for me.
So I think the broadcast feels disjointed.
They had some good graphics.
They had some tracers.
Like, they had some good stuff.
But the fairway predictor that that thing needs to go back into QA testing.
That thing messes up a lot.
So we need to.
I like the idea of that thing, but it's not really working well.
I love how much he fizzes off DC.
You hate that thing.
it's never right and like it'll be oh it's worse right a lot it's right like 80% of the time
85% of the time but sometimes it's so wrong so then i'm like well now i can't actually trust it is it
yeah yeah it's noticeably wrong sometimes the wind the wind stuff has been great and like
the wind effect on lezick shot it is it is that's not even an mbcc thing i just the whole
thing like i think it's really interesting that they're doing this this NFL films
the scenes thing that'll be out on Tuesday. How was the trailer? I haven't seen the trailer.
I thought it was sick. Looks very good. I think it looks all it's just like I tweet something out,
but it's like all I've ever wanted is just dudes talking about shots that they're about to hit and then
seeing what happens. It's like that's it, man. That's it. I don't need it for 10 years. Yeah,
I don't even need to be in the locker room. I don't need to any of that is just bonus. Like I just
any of that's great. All I want and there's a bunch of it in the trailer is like it sounds like
Akshay's miced up. It sounds like Joe Griner's miced up. And I'm like, I just, yeah, I just want
see you guys work together.
How do you tackle a big-ass golf tournament, a hard, hard golf course,
and, you know, like try to figure out how to shoot the lowest score.
That's all I'm looking for as a fan, and it looks like it's a bunch of that.
So that comes out Tuesday at 9 Eastern on PJ T-Tor's YouTube channel.
The only thing is they ended up following, it looks like four guys that best finished was Akshay at T-13.
So not a lot of guys that were kind of in the heat of it on the back down,
which only covering four guys that's unlike.
you're going to get one, but it still will be interesting content.
There's a way to do that.
There's a way, if you can get deep enough, I think there's a way that like any result is still
interesting.
It's not as interesting as, you know, having a mic on cam and, and Kyle down the stretch, obviously,
but it's like, if you can get me invested, it's, I don't know, it's kind of what we
have said, like, I know it's a very different scale, but we always said on our week in
the life stuff is like, if you're doing a good job, kind of being a fly on the wall,
it doesn't really matter if you miss the cut or if you finish.
first. It's like, it should be
interesting either way. And Goderup,
I think we'll learn a bunch about Godderup.
It sounds like he's miced up. Aksha is like
a good candidate as
someone I've seen play
golf, and I've seen him in a press room,
but I don't know a ton about him.
You know, Joe's one of my favorite people
on planet Earth, like would love to hear
him miced up as much as possible. So
I'm super duper
bullish and please feel
free to have egg on my face
if I'm wrong, but it looks, I think it's going to be really
good. Yeah. So I think Siwu,
see who was playing with. Yeah. Another great example of, you know,
on Thursday and Friday. And it was only the two of them in the group. So they had plenty of
time to kind of chat. And then I think they, they got, you know, they, they kind of
switched over to some other guys or some of the lead groups Saturday and Sunday. Like,
I saw plenty of the NFL films guys out there with the final group. Oh, great.
Final two groups. So I think that they'll weave that in as well. But I just think it's really
interesting from a rights perspective and a broadcast strategy perspective that that they're doing
this on p on pga tour and NFL films youtube and not on like it's not going to golf channel
it's not going to you know peacock or or you know testing baby you know the the golf channel app
or whatever like it's it's basically like roll up saying no like we're going to we're going to have this
on our channels and it's and it's a shot across the bow it i think it golf channel and i think it
get the full swing guys too. Hey, I want to bring my own guys in here to
do something different because I don't think this other stuff was good enough.
We, uh, I feel like that that transitions us to kind of the last grade, Randy.
I feel like we talked a lot. Oh, I was going to talk more roll app. I don't know if that's where you're
no, I got one more, uh, bottom of the list, things that are sick. The theme music for the players
deserves a shout out. Of course. Do do, do, do, do do, do do. I was going to see all eclipse today.
I was dropping it into movies. It's a banger, man. They did a class.
job with that. That stuff's aged really well.
It is good. B.C. is really good with the music. I will give him that.
Randy, we've talked about a lot over the last couple weeks, months. But what was, you know,
I feel like your first big impression of Rolat probably this week? What kind of great you giving him?
Yeah. I'll tell you, it was not looking good from the start when he said history will remember
Jay Monaghan as a winner. But then he-
Andy, preach.
No, I truly like setting aside all bits, all hyperbole.
Like I think roll-up is really impressive.
He's very good in that situation.
He projects competence.
He speaks clearly.
He is able to get his points across.
I truly would give him like an A for that press conference and laying out this vision
in a manner.
Of course, there are a lot of detail.
to work out. But, you know, I watched the press conference and I can tell you, you know, hey, 21 to 26,
like tier one events, the two tracks, you know, late January to early September. The way he presented
all the information, they want to be merit-based, right? Maybe some match play in the playoffs.
I just, I was able to retain a lot of information there because of the way he communicates it.
And I just think his leadership style is in such content.
contrast to Monaghan, I just, gosh, I am, I'm really bullish. I'm excited about, about him and the future of this tour and where it's going. And it's crazy for me to say that because I've been like the most pessimistic guy when it comes to leadership over there. But I really think it's a new day. Building off that just quickly, Randy, like the things that were said and then nailing the tournament setup is like, oh, okay. Like we're, we're, we're. We're. We're.
We're good here.
A little bit of evidence of competence there.
The tour might be in good hands.
And like we might not have to reestablish the business model for as much as we complain about things and throw out, you know, a lot of critiques.
Because it's just like, they kind of are on the path.
Let's see what they get done.
Let's see how it all shakes out.
But like they're starting to get it.
I think it's just been a long uphill battle.
I think his whole thing that it's just, I've been thinking about this last couple days has been instead of like,
here's the old tour.
Let's build something brand new.
It kind of feels like,
no,
what are the best elements of the tour?
All right,
what are our best tournaments?
Cool,
these eight tournaments?
Cool.
Let's create eight more just like them
or elevate eight more just like them.
And let's just make the core,
like the heart of the,
the heart and soul of the PGA tour good.
Instead of trying to create this,
this good new thing.
It's like,
no,
like we have good DNA here.
Let's,
let's,
build on that instead of grasping.
Yeah. I would say I don't usually do this, but I know a lot more people listen to the Sunday pods than some of the earlier week stuff.
If you want a lot, lot, lot more on this, go back and listen to the Wednesday show that we did because we got very deep in the weeds on, you know, all the point by point stuff.
What's changing? What's not changing? What's a proposal? What's a hairbrained idea? I thought that was a good convo. So there's a lot more there.
Even just on the ground?
It's pretty tough to explain just how different and contrasting the vibe is between this year and even, like, even last year of just like the attitude and feeling and lack of tension among tour staff and players.
And everybody just kind of feels like they exhaled and isn't gripping the steering wheel so tight anymore.
that permeates through the entire experience out there.
It just feels a lot more sure of itself.
And people,
people just seem like,
oh,
somebody just finally told me what to do.
Momentumet is a wild thing.
I think you're describing leadership.
Totally.
100%.
Like,
it's apparent,
like,
Rolap just,
he comes off as just a serious person.
And I thought Monaghan long ago gave that up.
Like,
I don't think he was ever a serious person.
Yeah.
Well, it's also just, it's not just like words also.
It's like an entirely new structure that's extremely well funded and that you players have equity into now.
It's also like there's a one and a half billion dollars from SSG into the tour.
Like the PJ tour is staying for the long haul.
Like we're going to go up against live like we already have.
And we've secured our talent with the equity that has been given out is like another just.
It goes beyond just words set at a press conference.
I think is my point of reason for players to believe.
and feel like the trains on the right tracks.
Yeah.
Guys, I think we're hitting the end of our players' championship convo.
Solly, I think you've got to take us out with the coldest moment.
Of course, presented by our friends at Yeti.
Big thank you to them for their continued support.
What do you got for this week's Yeti coldest moment?
I know this is a personal one for you.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is as an avi, the resident aviary enthusiast on this podcast and among this
group, I just want to say what it.
putting down on the 70 second hole of Sepp's
round today was beyond cold
and it's not what we're about.
Seth recklessly played
from the pine straw right of the
18th fairway and hit a ball at a lot of miles
an hour towards three
Commodores, I believe that
were perched up there on the bulkhead
and even hit one of them
and it almost deflected it back
into play. It did get
back into play for a second but banged
around on the bulkhead a little bit and rightfully fell
into the water.
talking about the ball or the bird
have gotten word that the bird
is okay thankfully
I didn't see any of the media actually
reporting on this in the protocol
or following
The Audubon Society is investigating
They are looking into it
Pete is looking into it as well
But that was this week's
Yetty coldest moment
Courtesy of Sepsraka
And I'm just glad to hear
The one of our eyes
In ox going at the birds
I hate to see it
Oaks
Oaks
That really had to hurt your heart
As a bird
the busiest.
I saw there was a bald eagle above nine today.
I got to send you the picture.
Man.
Pretty cool.
Comerance,
not Commodore.
That's a band.
I don't think that's right.
I also don't know anything about birds.
It happens, man.
I'll tell you, you get words mixed up sometimes.
You know, pins, pints, who could say?
Neil, this week could not get any better for you.
It just keeps going.
Other people mispronouncing.
The sidefell episode where Elaine becomes George.
Yeah.
Yeah, big thank you to Yeti for their continued support in all kinds of different things that we do here.
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Guys, moving to, moving to wrap here.
Of course, Bryson is your winner at Liv Singapore wins in a rainy, rainy playoff against Richard T. Lee, who missed tough, tough punt there for.
Tough fish for our guy, Big Rich.
It is fourth, I'm sorry, Bryson's fourth live golf win.
T.C., your Aces, beat Ripper G.C.
Your Ripper.
Second straight event.
I think the Aces is trying to angle for a Aces.
Everybody's your team.
These are all your teams.
I'm a Southern Guards guy after the Rhino.
Yeah, what the hell, Jill?
I thought that was going to be a Neal's notebook.
The Rino Junk.
Sorry, that one slipped down the list.
I'm sorry.
The other one I wanted to
see there was a Torque's tweet about
it was a 54 whole lead I think
that they're they're tweeting I'll read
this these are their words not my words
in their defense that used to be the end
of the tournament so I understand their
they said
months of this was I guess about
Joaquin Neiman leading going into the final round
months of hard work do not erase the champion he is
like Odysseus in the Odyssey
Joaquin found himself back
to where he belongs today he was
relentless. He truly never left.
He just took a longer way back.
Shout out to the Odyssey. One more
day, Waco, make us proud.
He finished third,
I believe. The first line
doesn't even make sense. Months
of hard work do not erase
the champion that he is.
No, it seems like it just would feed into it.
Yeah. Also, I don't know.
Go back to it.
Cody.
The,
the, uh,
Waukeen found his way back to
where he belongs.
But if he had to find his way back to where he belongs,
he can't say he never left.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a bit of a Scotty here implying I was lost,
kind of situation there.
I just,
I haven't seen a lot of golf tweets reference Odysseus,
certainly in reference to a 54-ho elite at Live Singapore.
But just, yeah,
heady stuff from your guys over at Torque, ATC.
Heady stuff out of Cintosa.
Yeah.
Lee Westwood also,
coming back from injury
first time in the final group he finished
his third
solo third I believe
best finish on live
for him
I don't have a lot else from live guys
obviously the video of Bryson falling in the bunker
came across my desk
almost it again
bats there are bats flying around them too
bad week for the cleaks
cleaks finished 11
this is like one of blandie's worst
worst events since since he joined live
yeah he's like in the 50s TC
yeah no it wasn't bad it wasn't good it wasn't good
Kimer had like an opening round
Kimer played terrible in round one shot 78
I don't know
where's where's live going next
we got the Rhino jive
Oh we got South Africa this week
God
Man also it's really
It's really incredible how lucky
golf got as far as Dubai
Dubai and Abu Dhabi and everything
like I just saw it canceled the
Formula One races there
for next month.
You know.
Yeah.
Brum the Rhino jive into like a future
stakes in a match or something.
You got to hit the rhino jive.
Rady, are you familiar with the rhino jive?
Unfortunately.
Yeah.
This is a
I got Dean Bermister tracker.
That boy can golf 69.
He had a great rendition of it.
He hit the righto jive.
This is, of course, a video.
That boy can golf 69.
It feels very great.
Yes.
This is the formerly Stinger, I believe, G.C.
Now recently renamed Southern Guard, put out a video that I think the, I don't know,
I think part of the conclusion we live.
I don't know if we have it, if we have it pulled up, but I don't know if Cody can find it.
He's fast.
the Southern Guards my
DMCA, my DMCA, the whole pod.
The, uh, the hard part
with Liv is I think about half the guys
think it's the Savannah bananas and the other guys,
the other half thinks it's like a real tour.
You know, you have Bubba
doing like the range goats and this whole thing is just,
we're just out here to make kids laugh.
It's like, great.
That's, that's a great mission.
Southern guards doing viral, like TikTok day,
making up TikTok dances.
The cleats are doing street wear.
Yeah, it's just like, I think half these guys are just like,
Like, you see what these savannah bananas are doing?
That's what our league should be.
And half of the guys are like, we demand to be taken seriously.
And I just think maybe that's going to rip apart in the center.
But I don't know, T.C., you tell me.
And Rom's just so pissed the whole time.
It's got to be.
Fuck, guys.
I don't know.
Put your left hand up.
What is this fucking rhino, rhino, rhino.
Can you imagine?
You think Rob's going to get asked to do the rhino jive when he gets to South Africa?
Is there anything?
Everybody's going to be doing it.
It was like when they when they did that whole, I can't remember it was like a parade or a toast or whatever for Brooks.
Oh, yeah.
The defending champion.
Are he a defending champion?
You can tell how mortified he was.
Now I'm thinking of the flash mob too.
Remember that one?
I honestly thought the rhino jive was like going to be like a South African like cricket or rugby like thing that they did for something else.
No, that was specially.
Especially written for the Southern Guards.
Yeah.
We've got it.
It's,
this song has to be AI, right?
Yes.
We've got my life that this is an AI song.
Oh, man.
I got a little Caribbean spice to it.
That's good stuff.
They seem to be having a good time, though.
It's great.
It's great.
I'm not yuck and yums.
I'm just saying, I don't know if that's,
I don't know if that's, what are we?
doing? What is the point of this thing?
Can you imagine the
Ryan Jones? I hope the
I hope the OWGR people are like,
fuck, man. What are we thinking?
What are we thinking? Trevor's
South African. Maybe he's in there.
He's doing the right of job.
Who knows? We've got to reach out.
Guys, only other thing we mentioned
on the front end, Hannah Green
ends a, I believe, a 12-year
Aussie women's drought to
win her native Australian
opened by one down in Adelaide.
I didn't get to watch a ton of it.
Congratulations to Hannah Green.
Cody got anything for us on this one.
Hey, thanks, Dege.
Yeah, it was awesome.
Congrats to Hannah Green 12 years.
Carrey Webb was the last Australian woman to win their native open.
And what a year so far for women's professional golf.
You have Gino winning her home national open.
Hannah Green winning hers.
Of course, Nully winning the Hilton grand vacations.
You know, Braden kind of a home at home.
Orlando invitation.
The good news here is that this is the first year that the Women's Australian Open has been co-sanctioned by the Ladies European Tour.
It used to be co-s sanctioned by the LPGA tour all the way up until 2019.
So I'm excited that the LET is jumped on board.
And it's a co-s sanction event.
Hopefully that means that it will continue to find a spot being that it's this first year being back to a standalone event and not joined like it was for a couple of years with, you know, the men kind of lifting it along with them.
I'm very excited because the LPAGA tour is back in the United States this week.
We got the Founders Cup firing back up.
So we're going to have some normal viewing hours golf with a lot of time.
I got to check.
We're all right.
We're seeing part of Commissioner Craig's new packages that we're seeing a lot more golf.
So I don't have the complete broadcast times with me.
But speaking of Commissioner Craig for people that are interested on Tuesday,
Solly and I were able to sit down a couple weeks, well, about a week ago for an interview with LPGA commissioner Craig Kessler.
So that's going to come out Tuesday night.
Very excited.
You want to know a lot about current state of the LPGA tour, where he came from, what his goals, aspirations, everything are.
You can check it out there.
Cody, we've got 6 to 9 p.m. Eastern.
This is from Sharon Heights, Golf of Country Club in Menlo Park.
We've had a pretty good restoration or renovation there here recently.
So that should be a pretty great viewing experience later this week.
Also, I just got to say, Paris Holinsky keeps getting sponsor exemptions in these ladies European tour events.
That's unsurious.
We got to do better.
I'm just going to say that.
Thank you.
We got to.
Agree?
Thank you.
We did, you know, Sully pressed Craig on a lot of things.
Going back to Hilton, the decision there, he walked us through that again,
talked about where he's at now a couple weeks past.
And then I really pressed him on National Opens TC.
I think it's going to be a good listen for you.
So hopefully as he is working hard at a new and improved schedule for the LPGA tour,
and, you know, trying to call their shots a little bit here that I really enjoy.
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T.C., I'm scared to ask, who is Paris Holinsky?
I don't know.
No, we're not doing that.
Yeah, she's an influencer.
She's an influencer.
All right.
You know, we threw the Southern Jive up there that
that was.
Rino Jive. Excuse me. Excuse me.
That probably was the worst
golf related video of the week.
The second one, Sali, is what you sent me over.
The PGA tour trying to capture, I think,
Ludwig's pre-shot routine,
how long it takes him to actually...
Oh, that was great. I thought that was a great.
They changed the clock.
They mess with the space time continue,
him and like slowed the clock down to make it look like he hit it in four seconds i know i loved it i thought
it was funny it was interstellar it was a bit i don't think it was they're doing bits now sweet
everything's a bit guys uh well a lot of bits this week a lot of content this week a lot of pods this
week thanks to all you guys for all the energy thanks everybody for watching cody thanks to i say
some brook on that no deed just super quick really really appreciate everyone listening during
during major weeks like this.
I'm just going to, if this shows up,
you've made the No Lange up podcast,
the number four sports podcast in the country,
as of right now behind like some absolute,
absolute Titans.
So we just greatly appreciate everyone,
the 3,500 of you that are still here at 9.30 on Sunday night
and that tune in to all these live shows
because we have a lot of fun doing them.
And we just,
it's very rewarding to get that kind of feedback from everyone.
So are we ahead or behind the Kelsey brothers?
We are,
they are seventh.
We are fourth right now.
So we are, we're dusting them on that.
I love that.
Also, guys, I'm sorry I crashed out earlier.
It's all right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just can't believe how partisan's got, man.
Yeah.
How do we fix this, man?
I don't understand.
All right.
Without further ado, Randy, unless you got any best picture predictions.
No, no, don't tell.
Oh, well, listen to our, if you got time here,
Listen to our four plus hour and a half hours.
Also, Randy, you know what?
You took such a drive-by at me in that podcast.
You didn't fire me.
I fucking quit.
I didn't have time to watch all these stupid movies.
Oh, geez.
Neil, you're earnestly giving your opinion on once upon a time in Hollywood,
having watched a half of it on a plane.
I was very upfront about that of that movie.
I was leaving it to you guys.
I was just saying that should be,
I thought the movie was too long.
That was my point.
It was simply for your own sake.
I didn't think that was classy.
I didn't think you need to take a shot of me like that.
It was.
I didn't expect Rainy.
I thought we were kind of chilling.
I didn't expect him to open up fire in the,
in the restaurant as we were doing that.
Yeah, Neil used to do it.
He sucked, though.
I don't think I said that.
I think you read that into it, Neil.
Also,
none of you guys wish me a happy Skeens Day today.
Happy Skeens Day, Sallie.
No, none of you didn't get it in time.
I might be out on Team USA baseball.
What a disaster.
It's tough.
What a dumpster fire, especially compared
to these other teams.
It's like super bad.
Just looking at some of these other teams.
It looks like the most fun I've ever seen in my entire life.
It's Ruth of the Torah's Dej.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
It's very much like a, ah, all right, this is why some of you idiots
Rudy gets the US for a hundred cup team.
Yeah, I kind of get it now.
The other guys are way more fun.
I get it.
All right.
Thanks, everybody again for tuning in.
Live shows will be back, not till the master's.
So we got a couple weeks off.
but you know we'll be here. Craig Kessler
podcast this week. We'll be back for
Val Spar and a lot more as we
lead up to the first major of the year.
Randy, I'll see you in Philly
on Thursday. God willing.
God willing.
Rob, Judge of a home run as we speak.
All right, get your TVs.
Crack questions. Do you think Ludwig wins
by more than two?
Is it a coronation coming down the stretch?
Do you think it is? How about you start?
I think it is.
I think it is.
I think it's going to be a little more stressful tomorrow than maybe it felt at times today.
I think he wins by at least two.
Not so fast, my friend.
You are now about to witness the strength of street knowledge.
That's it.
Shout out TVK.
Good night.
Good night.
