No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1136: Another Tiger Car Accident + Gary Woodland’s Emotional Win

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

We open tonight’s pod with some thoughts on the news of another car crash involving Tiger Woods and what happens moving forward. Then it’s on to Houston where, in a much needed feel-good finish, Gary Woodland wins on the PGA Tour two and a half years after undergoing brain surgery and just weeks after he disclosed recent struggles with PTSD.  We also pick a few players with rising and falling stock so far in 2026, offer our thoughts on Memorial Park and recap finishes on the DP World Tour, LPGA Tour, and an interesting Article from Adam Schupak in GolfWeek which asked pros to weigh in on the one design change they’d like to see made at Augusta National. Time Stamps: 00:00 - Intro + Tiger Woods Accident 36:00 - Woodland’s win in Houston 46:00 - Players with rising and falling stock on tour 1:02:30 - Memorial Park + News & Notes 1:14:30 - DP World Tour / LPGA Recap 1:34:00 - Schupak Article - survey on ANGC design changes Notes: Golf Digest - Article on history of ANGC changes:  Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nolayingup.com/esf⁠ Support our Sponsors: Titleist Arccos SoFi If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Nest⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠nolayingup.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club today. Ronnie, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast. Sully here. I am joined tonight by my strapped brethren.

Mr. Neil Schuster is here. Hello, Neil. Greetings, Sally. You didn't ask me how I'm doing, but I'm doing fantastic. Randy, how you doing? I figured you were doing fantastic. Neil, I heard you were working the chainsaw this weekend. Hell yeah, brother.

I got myself a chainsaw, an electric one. I got full control over that bad boy and the chaps to go with it. So, yeah, we were chopping up some trees in the yard. We like that. Hopefully all your fingers and toes as well. I am good. Yeah, I am good. I had a great week out here in Denver,

watch some good golf this weekend, excited to talk about it. We have a big show tonight. Obviously, we are going to be starting with yet another car. accident in DUI for Tiger Woods. We're going to talk about that here in a second. Gary Woodland's emotional win in Houston. There was some good news going on in the golf world this week. Alex Fitzpatrick breaks through at DLF.

Jiu Kim again at the Ford Championship. We're going to cover a couple guys that we're higher on now than we were at the start of the year and vice versa, which may be a little bit more fun. Some Nelly stuff mixed in there. It was a good article of Golf Week about Augusta National changes, talking to a bunch of players as to what changes they'd make there. I'm curious to pick your guys. You already know what I changed.

You're not allowed. I made you a non-stinky Nandina category. There's a stench in here already. I read the article and I was like, I'm putting this in the agenda and I'm not letting Neil talk about 17. I just not listen to you. This is my platform. I got to hit it.

I've always tried to put barriers around the Schuster Brothers and it almost never works. But I got two quick equipment notes before we get into the show. Gary Woodland put on a clinic with his title as ProV1 golf ball this week. He gained over five and a half shot. on the field with his approach play. He loves the spin and flight windows. He gets from ProV1. Natural high speed, high spin player.

The V keeps the full swing spin down in an optimal range for him. And also he likes to flight the ball down, especially in the winds. That lower trajectory of the V is a great fit. You might have also seen Titleist launched a new brand new GTS2, GTS3, and GTS4 drivers on tour this week. Quick update there. Over 50 players across the PGA tour, LPGA, and KFT.

immediately moved to the new GTS driver, including 24 players in Houston. GTS2 was tied for the most played driver model in the field in its first week. Also, GTS got a win in its first week with Davis Lamb, taking on the club car championship down on the Corn Ferry Tour with his GTS2 driver. Titles also posted some pretty cool behind the scenes content of player testing this week, so you can check those out. Stay tuned for more GTS updates over the coming weeks.

on the super not fun note tiger woods was traveling at a high rate of speed this is coming from golf week in a land rover and attempted to pass a truck pulling a trailer on a two lane road would swipe the trailer and his vehicle rolled on its side it came to rest on the driver's side according to the martin county sheriff office woods crawled out of the vehicle and showed signs of impairment there were no drugs or medication in the car, nor was Woods injured, but he was lethargic on the scene. The sheriff's office said, and he was alone in the car. DUI investigators were called to the scene to perform roadside tests on Woods and determined that he was impaired.

Woods was placed under arrest and transported the Martin County Jail. Once at jail, a breathalyzer test determined that alcohol was not involved, but Woods refused to take a urine test. He was booked into jail and charges of DUI property damage and refusal to submit a lawful test. This is, of course, Woods' fourth vehicle. related incident since 2009. The famous Thanksgiving incident where he was under the influence of sleeping pills,

wasn't wearing socks and shoes when he was knocked unconscious in the crash. The DUI in 2017, where he was infamously busted for driving high on prescription pills, including Vicodin, diluted Xanax, Ambien, and THC when he was found asleep behind the wheel. The horrific crash in 2021 when he was driving between 84 and 87 miles an hour in a 45-mile-hour zone, almost needed his right leg amputated. and yet again another DUI. I don't have a great question when I throw this over to you, Neil,

for a reaction to what we just witnessed unfold here this past week for Tiger Woods. Yeah, man, I got a lot of feelings. I just think first things first for me, DUI or not, Tiger, anyone else, just slow the fuck down. Like, I don't know, I don't, I have zero patience for driving really fast in residential areas or just like following too closely. Like, yeah, you got a history with like crashing your car. I don't understand why we can't just slow down.

And like, okay, if that's because you're impaired, like I think extra careful then, bud. Like the idea that he's rolling up hot on a on a pressure washing truck and then trying to, you know, make a last minute swerve. And then he flips the car. Like, I truly like, what are we doing drugs or not? I just, I have zero personally, zero. desire to drive fast. I think it's deeply lame when people drive aggressively, we've followed too closely, all of those things. It just compounds mistakes. And so like, I just want to get that out of the way first. So like that, that just always bothers me. And it's like if you have a,

like a history of that, you're 50 years old. Like, let's just not do that anymore. So great, set that aside. I think for me, it's kind of like, I'm trying to prepare for this pod and thought about it all weekend. It's like, what were my immediate emotions reaction? actions to this. I was actually, Randy, speaking of the chainsaw, I was out back with the chainsaw. Came in. My phone's blowing up. Slack channels. Oh my God. Another car crash for Tiger. What's my first feeling? It wasn't sad. It's not quite anger. It's just exhaustion. Like, every time I see Tiger now, I feel like I'm exhausted seeing him look exhausted. He looks kind of dead behind the eyes. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of like, I don't want to say life in there,

but he just feels a little, he feels a little muted. And I'm exhausted saying to myself, hey, man, he doesn't look right. Like, I'm just sick of saying that to myself. And, but I don't want to get on like the Billy Payne high horse here where it's like, I'm stuck between like two versions of the word shame. Like, what a shame, man. Like, the guy's got an addiction problem. Allegedly, right?

Like, I don't know. But like, that's what it kind of looks like to me. And then the other side, I kind of ping pong to. Like, God, he should be ashamed. Like, why are we crashing our car? Why are we doing this? You know, but then it's like, yeah, I don't want to become Billy Payne and be like, shame on you. Like, again, he's a grown man.

So I'm just kind of stuck in the middle. But guys clearly got a problem. Everybody, we all just wanted to go away. And it won't. And I feel bad about that. But I'm also just like, stop making it the pressure washer guy's problem. You know, stop making it the cops problem. Stop making it like the doctors that almost have to amputate your legs.

like I just if we're if you don't want to talk about it and you don't want to ask for help then it can't be a public problem I guess is what I'm starting to think about and I just like I so I'm just exhausted with it is is kind of my feeling and I I don't know if that's right or wrong but that's how that's that's how I feel about it it it feels ridiculous like I I going through it you know I I'm trying to summarize like a decade of of history here in a couple moments but like does he have the three worst golfer related dream? arriving incidents. Like maybe I'm forgetting, you know, a tragedy or something off the top of my head here.

But it's like, this is not normal. How is it all three coming from one person? And all of them his fault. I mean, the, the 2017, D.Y, again, what we saw after that happened, people made t-shirts with his mugshot on it. And he walked by it at events and laughed and smiled about it. It was like a very serious incident happened with somebody. and he showed almost no remorse for it.

The accident that happened in 2021, he was basically asked one question about it ever, as far as I could find. It was at the hero asking him to relive that, you know, describe the crash, and he just deflected it saying it's all in the police report, which wasn't accurate either and didn't get any follow-up questions on that.

And now another one, I'm exhausted by saying like this sentence, like he's lucky he didn't kill anyone and he's lucky he didn't kill himself. Like this is the third time. I mean, the first crash was in his neighborhood. He was knocked on, but hit a fire hydrant, like somebody may have been at risk very shortly after that happened.

But like this, the other ones were on public roads in very public places. It is like, it's not that hard to operate a motor vehicle. And if you are like they let 15 year olds operate motor vehicles. It is very hard to do if you're very highly impaired, right? And it obviously the problem does go much higher than just like the decision to get behind the wheel. Like he needs from what I can gather. again, this is not factual. We don't know what was in his system.

We don't know what the causes for impairment technically were in this incident. We have that example from 2017. We famously don't have it from 2021 because the test was not performed there. But every time we've made it a point to point out every time he does an interview that he just has trouble speaking. He has trouble speaking to the public, trouble like keeping up with things. The most recent one was the TGL interview he did where it just looked like he was on camera for the first time ever. And it's sad. It's just,

it's horrible to watch it. I don't, I've never gone through addiction personally. I don't have a ton of people close to me that have gone through it. And I haven't witnessed it up close. So I don't want to preach in the same way you're saying, Neil of like it is, it looks like an addiction.

No, no, I'm saying, I'm in the same. Yeah. I don't want to preach. You'll, like,

what a shame. Because I, I do. I have friends that have struggled with painkiller addiction. It's gnarly shit. But it's like, I just want to, man.

you we got to like we got to stop acting like it's not a problem i guess i don't know public i don't know i don't know what to do with it man i don't i'm so sorry i just i don't but i don't want to feel like billy paint i keep bringing that up of like shame you know shame on you but like i don't know he he just get a fucking driver then it's not we want to just just like you have the means just yeah you man you're going to have somebody that's you have to keep on your schedule but like that's the choice at this point. Randy, I'll give you the last word. I, yeah, listen, I echo a lot of what you guys say. I think from where I sit, it's okay to hold feelings of anger at Tiger, like for being this clearly irresponsible yet again. That's, it's unacceptable. And I think it's also okay to

hold feelings of sympathy and empathy for him because quite obviously he is struggling with an addiction And I don't know what that's like. So I can't pretend to put myself in his shoes, but it's got to be about the hardest thing ever. And obviously, he's struggling. So I think it's okay to hold kind of these competing thoughts about all this. I net out that, you know, I would just hope he has somebody in his life that can reach him and have difficult conversations with him and try to put him. on a path where he can get right for himself for the rest of his family. And, you know, it's just what I hope for him. It feels like as we're going through this again, I don't know if it's, you know,

nobody's able to push him to the help he needs. I don't know if it's Tiger. You know, obviously a strong personality. What made him great on the golf course, I think, plays a large part in what is happening off the golf course now. And so, yeah, I just think it's obviously a continuing story. I think it has been continuing. It always felt uneasy, you know, a few years back when it was like, hey, Tiger, he's good now, man. It's like, ah, if you're addicted, that never goes away.

And so I think, I think you just try to offer grace. And, yeah, I just hope somehow he's able to. get help in his personal life because it's very obvious he needs it. And absent of that, you know, I don't know. Like, I know we're going to ask the question, is he going to be in Augusta next month? It's like, man, for his sake, I hope not. Like, this needs to be, you get one DUI. I feel like that's the worst night of your life. A second, like official DUI and not even counting these other incidents that I don't think resulted officially in a, in a, under the influence arrest or charge, like it's, it's not good.

If 2021 didn't scare you straight, like, dude, you could have so easily died. That's not hypothetical at all. You almost got your leg amputated. And nobody knows what happened. You likely fell asleep at the wheel going 88 miles an hour. Like, if that didn't scare you straight, then I don't know what would. If you have two kids, like, you have two kids, man. Like I get that I went down like a rabbit hole of thinking about this,

Neil just like pulling back on this was like, yeah, what made him super motive, made him unique, made him what made him such a great golfer, what made him get in this public eye the way that he is, is it works counter to something like this. Like he's a maniac.

He was famous early, famous at a young age. I'm not, again, not excusing any of this behavior other than like he never became, you know, I think it was Bill Simmons has the theory, just like the might. Michael Jackson theory on people that become famous in the limelight before they've reached an age of maturity.

Like you basically just like stop at that level of maturity as you get into your adult life. And I can't get that out of my head when I look at Tiger across all aspects of his life, basically. And had all the famous marital affairs incidents, which led to him getting divorced, which sent his life down a different path, led to a bunch of injuries because he was a maniac and wouldn't listen to anybody. led to Navy SEAL training, did the Navy SEAL training, caused all these injuries, which caused the addiction to, keep pulling the thread,

and it just ends up at a place of, like, like you said, you know, it's just a sad story. Like, it's a sad story. And I don't, I do, I, we've all, everybody's been saying this.

Everyone's been saying this back to 2017, at least, like you should not be driving. You just shouldn't. And I know that's probably a point of pride and a hard thing to give up. But if this doesn't do it, take away's license.

Second DUI, I don't know how the legal system actually. I know. I'm not a lawyer, but can we just take it away because it i mean it's he's not gonna we're just give it up like he should you know he should turn it in i think the the the piece of it though for me is like there's this disconnect between when he when he when we do see him like on tgl or just like throughout his career it's always like yeah i'm solid like like the kind of you know he's superman like yeah

don't worry about me like but yo man we're 50 like i'd like to see us enter a new phase like look at Gary Woodland. I mean, like the vulnerability he shows two, three weeks ago, it felt like he's got the monkey office back. It's like, man, I'd love to see Tiger pour that like niacal, militant discipline into like getting clean, baby. Like take privacy on a world tour. Get off the grid, dude. Like, if you don't want to go to rehab, just go go off on your own, just like disconnect for a while. because like he clearly doesn't like the public like he always wants to like operate on his terms with the publicity stuff he doesn't he doesn't bask in it the way Phil does and the way other athletes do of like you know he doesn't really want to be on TV or do interviews but you can't have it both ways like if you don't want the publicity then you can't be getting in car wrecks either right like like you that that is just part of the deal and I don't know I'd like to see him enter a new phase and the I think something that I would really appreciate what Tyler is if we actually saw like the real tiger. It's like some vulnerability, like some, imagine if he came back.

I was like, yeah, man, I had a problem and I fixed it. And I'm, I'm working on it every day, not fixed it, but like I'm, you know, just like, I don't want to say like coming clean with everybody. But I mean, I would be drawn to that like I was with Gary Woodland. Like, and not like he's coming clean with an addiction, but something like serious that he's really struggling with. I mean, it's like, dude, be, everybody would be rooting for you, man. it's just hard to root for somebody when they're kind of like, yeah, I'm solid.

And it's like, you'll clearly you're not solid. What the fuck? Yeah. And that's it's I can't walk a mile in his shoes in terms of pain versus pain relief, right? And that's where it's a, I imagine it's a very difficult battle. It obviously is. I mean, he's overcome so much, you know, adversity, a lot of itself inflicted. But then that's where I'm also, if I'm just being honest, I'm like, I, I, I,

get to a point where I'm like where when I do say self-inflicted that it might be diminishing the effects of of addiction you know I I don't like talking about this because and then when I say that then I'm like well am I being too sympathetic to somebody that's putting other people's life at at risk here like this is the sympathetic view is like we're worried about what you're going to do to yourself and I think that's what I was trying to say Sally is like yes to all of that like you can feel all of that and they kind of contradict that points but I think there's no like that's okay sorry to interrupt. No, I think those things can be contradictory.

I really lose the patience for it, though, with, like, just the putting other people at danger, man. Like, that's, and nobody wants you to be hurt either, Tiger, but, like, it, it, the public roadway, like, I, I, I had a, a U-A-U basketball teammate of mine died in a DUI accident when he was 18 years old in Columbus and like it's just something that I I every time I hear about one of these scenarios like it just hits it reminds me of that and it it was not a close friend of mine but it just sucks man and it's just not something to be to be taken lightly

like driving into the influence is just not whatever that influence might be it's it's just so not worth it man for especially for somebody worth billions of dollars and and could easily pay somebody pay a service 300k 500k over the course of a year to just drive you and your family around at all times. I mean, that's an outrageous expense. That's overpaying, but that's for 24-7 service to have nearby is just not that crazy of an ask given your current state. But I feel like we'll reach. Yeah. I think if I may, just a few more thoughts. I think what makes this such a sad story for me, and this is all armchair analysis, like, you know, it should go without saying like, I don't know Tiger.

I don't know what's going on. But from where I sit, right? I feel like he's in this tough loop where the golf is what has always given him meaning, right? It's what's given his life meaning. And it's also what has broken his body. And I sense there's a real struggle with like what to do after golf or if he can't play golf. Right. So like, Neil, to your point, you know, why do you keep putting yourself through this?

Why do you try to live with this pain? You know, we're talking about another comeback. Can he play the Masters this year? And it just is, it's sad to me that I think, if for Tiger, in my opinion, it's like, yeah, well, without golf, who is he, right? And that gets back to, you know, the earlier point about this childhood that was in the spotlight, and he never really got to grow and develop as a person outside and away from this sport. And so I see that, which makes it just that much more of a sad story to me.

And then I think the other thing that comes to mind is like, Neil, to your point about showing vulnerability, you know, the number one thing everybody says about addiction, like the hardest thing to do is for the person to admit that they have a problem, that they have an addiction. And I don't think we've ever gotten that from Tiger. And until he himself is able to come to that. realization, I just fear that we're going to be searching for the rock bottom. And I hope that this is the rock bottom. And he could admit whether he needs to do that publicly or not. I think in time,

he should admit it publicly that he has a problem. But certainly starting in private and get actual help. But yeah, I, the irony. The irony big is like for for his foe strength reasons, he doesn't want to do that, but the real strength would be to do that. Right. That's 100%. Like it is a, it is showing a weakness by trying to tough this out or whatever, whatever it is that you're doing with this. I have a question about a lot of things about the fallout from this. And kind of how we've operated, I'm guilty of this as well.

I, you know, by the time, you know, by by the time 2019 Masters rolled around after the 2017 DUI, I'm, I'm willing to have enough time has passed from that happening. looks like he's got his life on track. His face looks normal. He, you know, he had been to rehab. Like, he seems to be doing better. He's forgiven of his past crimes and I could accept that moment.

And, you know, Tiger wins the Masters and it's incredible. You know, obviously the horrible accident happens in 2021, but, you know, time goes by and it, it, there's just like an aging of the event and you're not like, when he pops up on screen, I'm not thinking about the guy that, you know, went 88 and flipped the car over it. You just, it's not out of sight out of mind, but it just there's an aging period of this.

Does this fourth strike change anything when it comes to like he's basically in charge of with Brian Rolap? He's in charge of like figuring out the future of the PGA tour. He hosts multiple PGA tour events. He's being talked about as the next Ryder Cup captain. Like his golf talent and his presence in the world has outweighed so many of the bad decisions. It has made people, myself included, willing to forget some of these decisions. but if it was like, hey, let's say, was Zach Johnson was maybe the next consideration

for the next Rider Cup captain. Zach Johnson is consistently, potentially addicted to pain killers and getting in multiple DWI car accidents. Would he even be even a remote consideration for a Rider Cup captain? Would he be able to, but like we seem to be able to look the other way

when it comes to him. Does this change things now? Is this the one where it's like, Genesis? Like what does Genesis want to have their name next to Tiger continued with that event. Maybe that's a shallow way of thinking about the fallout from this. Man, I mean, if it was anybody else, like, I mean, if this was the fourth DUI adjacent traffic incident for Phil or Bryson or Dustin Johnson or Zach Johnson, like, we would, yeah, we'd shame him into oblivion, man.

And I mean, I guess, God, we all, I think we all like collectively just want to be like, when he says, yeah, I'm solid. We just want to take him at his word, but I just can't trust that anymore. And, you know, Randy, where, like, shame's a powerful catalyst, but it doesn't seem like the, I don't know, the public. It's like, yeah, should he be in, like, in the room with the, like, do the golf power brokers need to get together and be like, hey, Tiger, we need you to step aside for a while and go get right? Like, is that the only thing that's going to solve this? I mean, part of me thinks, yeah, but I don't know.

if anybody's got the balls to do that. It's an interesting question because I had the same thought, you know, is, is it, in a sense, enabling to just keep inviting him into tour headquarters to have him a part of everything, to have him involved with tournaments, Olly, you know, TGL. I don't know. And it feels a little unfair of me to sit here and say, like, to the PGA tour, you need to cut him out until he gets help. But Neil, to your point, like, pure shaming is not going to get him there. Again, he has to be the one to recognize he has a problem. And I just think there's a thing

with addicts, and I've had a bit of tangential knowledge about this of, you know, as a goes, right? Like an addict keeps asking for money and the family keeps sending them money because they want to be nice. They want to be supportive. They want to be helpful. And what you hear is at a certain point is that's not helping. Like you need to cut this person off and they have to be with themselves and they either are going to hit rock bottom and recognize the problem or, you know, maybe the worst happens. But it gets to a point with addicts where I think it's kind of a very clear path. And I just wonder if he was told by the PGA tour, by Genesis, by some of these tournaments, right? Hey, we can't do this.

For your own sake, you need to step away. You need to get help. And until you really do, you can't be here. And we're not going to associate. And if you do and when you do, we would love to have you back, right? Yeah. I thought. It feels like something like that.

again, because we're talking about this isn't the first time, right? This isn't a one-off. This is clearly a pattern. And so that's why I guess I feel a little bit at liberty to even, you know, venture this. But yeah, I felt that like are we just all enabling it a little bit? It's the fourth incident. It's hard to shake that. But it's like the 25th time I've been like, I didn't look right on TV.

You know what? Like, who am I? But like I don't know. I don't know shit. But it's like, so, Sally, like when you're talking about 2017, I can understand that in 2019 because it's like, oh, man, you know, he seems like, yeah. Like, we, you know, we got help. We're back. And, you know, that's why it's a addiction sucks because it's just, it's never, it's a hundred years war.

But I thought I, I avoided a lot of the discourse on the, on the interwebs this week. But I did read Joel Beals column. And I thought it was really good. And there was a quote that really stood out to me that summed up how I felt about the 2021 stuff for. while. So I want to read this quote. Woods drove off a California road at high speed and shattered his leg, nearly lost it. The Los Angeles County Sheriff called it an accident. No blood was drawn, no substance test was administered. The official account was no evidence of impairment. And that was mostly accepted because Woods had nearly died and it felt indecent to push.

That line really stuck out to me. Continuing here. But the absence of a test is not the same as a clean result. It is the absence of a test. What we're left with in place of information was a story about survival and the road back. That was covered extensively and which made it functionally impossible to also say we don't know what was in his system that morning. That matters. It still matters, end quote.

So that it was indecent to push. Like I think at the very least, Tiger should not like get frustrated, inpatient, mift if he's asked about this in the future. And it was almost like, you know, you're not allowed to ask. And that's why I do think the media got like all of us have got a little big timed on this like after the, but it did feel indecent because it was like, yo, he almost lost his leg. All right. Like I got to think he's going to like clean it up now.

Right. Like we're all kind of crossing our fingers about it. But like, like you said, he got asked about it like one time. It was like, it was like, oh, no, man, don't go there. And that's like we got to stop doing that. Like I will say like, yo, man, you got to be you got to answer these questions now. I think that's fair, at the very least. I went back and read a bunch of stuff from when that happened in December of 21.

So he was asked. So again, the question was, Tiger. I'm wondering what you remember of the accident. Obviously, we all saw the result and looked so horrifying and scary. And I have a follow up to that. Tiger said, yeah, all those answers have been answered in the investigation. So you can read all about it in the police report. Amon Lynch and Damon Hatt came on the air after the interview.

And Amon said he swatted away the first question about the car crash by saying it was in the police report. the answers are there, which is demonstrably untrue. All the answers aren't there. There are a lot of questions that Tiger should still face in its indictment of golf media that he wasn't actually asked any follow-up questions about that. He said, I thought it was interesting how little he actually was actually pressed on what has been the seminal event of Tiger's year and why we haven't seen Tiger for 280 days. And his ability to just swat it away and not actually be pressed on it was disappointing in a way. Damon Hack followed up saying not only about what happened, but what changes may be coming in his life because of that.

What can he do to be more careful? Does he have a driver going forward? This is an accident that affected Tiger and could have affected others. And I went back and I was sharing all this and like, I remember people like shitting, like violently like yelling at me online. Like this is a crazy hill to die on.

Like he's not going to answer questions about that. I'm like, he should. Like he should. Why aren't you asking them? Well, I don't go to the freaking horror hero world challenge. But like it was a weird thing. People were like rushing to defend Tiger and think he is this practice.

life. He does not have to discuss this. Like he does when you're on public roads. If you're doing the shit in public and you're endangering other people, you do need to comment on it. Yeah. I feel like everybody else is going to, would have to answer these questions. I don't know. Yeah. So like, you know, listen, you hand up. I haven't asked him the question, but I remember wondering about that. Are we going to talk about this at all? I guess we're just going to cross our fingers. And here we are, you know, five years later. Almost like, exactly. Like, there's no, there's no, like, event that wants that like Augusta's just

that's not what they want their press conference to turn into and that could be a reason why he does play in the Masters coming up like why not just get in front of the media now and then swatted away at Augusta which they'll probably do what they can to protect me and then we can move on from there say it's all in the police

report. It's probably all that's going to happen. It's just it's just sad at this point but yeah it's exhausting. Yep and it's a bummer. and yeah that's it and and you know what but then like you said ready two things can be true like man him went in the 2019 like how fired up did that make me i mean yeah yeah damn yeah i still like i don't think this is going to happen or a real even close to a realistic expectation but if he

came back and beat this addiction again and came back and had a miracle another major like i feel like i'd be running i don't even need that at this point no no i don't know but i'm saying You can come back with like clear eyes. Yes. That's for life. And like, you know, that's what I, you know, kind of like the, honestly, the way I, like the interview I saw with Gary Woodland. Yeah. You know, just a guy that looks freed up, man.

Like talk about a, like a, we said it in Slack today, a pallet cleanser. I'm like, good for him. That feels great. And I'm glad you got like that off your chest. And then you just played great golf. Awesome. Yeah. He, we'll get into some of them.

that he did have some comments afterwards about how affected he still was by by a few things out there in the back nine today which um we'll we'll get to that anything else on the tiger thing before before we wrap i mean i'd be shocked if we saw him at augusta but i guess you never know right like i i guess again like i hope we don't you know like i i just think he's got much bigger issues like just go away and get right man yeah all right we're on to Houston, Neil, but before we get there, I got to tell everyone about our, finally we can talk about this Arcos thing. It's been killing me. We've been bottled up on all this stuff. Arcos, if you don't know, the official game tracker at the PGA tour and honestly, the smartest platform in golf.

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I drove it like a stallion. God, you stink at shipping. I had some really, really bad putts. off the greens. When Timuquana greens get fast, man, it gets, it gets a little tricky around there. I get me a little, cut me a little slack here. This is a great, it did, it did say my short game was like a 12 handicap, but I drove it like a plus five. But it gives you a sense, like, if you had asked me walking off the course, I'd been like, oh, no, I chipped and putted like about a four handicap today. And it tells you,

no, no, you were like a 12. You had two balls roll back to your feet. That doesn't happen. Not only that, you can see, you can compare all of your. information in data. This is this one's on the screen right now is me over the last 15 rounds compared to a scratch. I'm losing strokes around the green, but I'm gaining almost a shot per round compared to a scratch player off the tee. I'm actually driving it better than I would have given myself credit for. I still feel like I'm not good with the driver, but the data is telling me otherwise and it tells me I my short game is like your own eye test. Exactly, but that's what it's about. It's about giving you the actual information to make the decisions you need. Arcos air.

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It really, really, really does. And I'm getting back out again on this Friday, and I'm stoked. I almost golf season here. I would love to start. It's like ending here.

So I can't play any right now. Yeah, I feel that, Neil. But this truly, like, I am cynical about a lot of stuff. And I've never wanted like my phone out to track stats during around. I want to put it away. Like I really am excited. Solly, that that breakdown that you just showed between like your driving, your approach,

your, you know, your short game, what your relative strengths and weaknesses are. I have no idea what that is for me. Like I have ideas based on just years of, you know, what's in my head. But truly can't wait to see what it tells me this year. that's honestly tip of the ice, but that's what I've chosen to talk about tonight that's tip of the iceberg, because there's so many amazing features with the smart, laser smart rangefinder and all up for the nest to learn all the other stuff. Get in there. We'll keep talking about it because it's

really impressive. All right, at the Texas children in Houston open, Gary Woodland took a one shot lead over Nikolai Hoygard into the final round. Hoygard was five shots clear of Minwood Lee and Michael Ford Bjornson at T3 at minus 12. So it's going to be Woodland versus Hoygard. They got boring in a hurry. Woodland made birdies on 5, 7, 8, and 9 is some struggles from Hoygard. The lean ballooned all the way up to seven shots. Woodland would go on to win by five. He, of course, gave the emotional interview on the 18th Green with his wife nearby.

Just 20 days earlier, he was on Golf Channel in tears talking about the PTSD. He was experiencing and how, you know, just people getting close to him in space and some incidents that he's had had had. It just made it very clear that he was struggling. And I don't think many of us in the golf world, maybe some of his peers knew a lot more than we did, but most people in the golf world did not know. He wanted to speak out about it, hoping to help some heavy topics tonight.

I'm just now realizing, but wanting to help anybody that maybe would be struggling in some way. And just 20 days later, here he is winning back on the PJ tour for the first time in seven years. It was quite serendipitous, and I could not be more happy for Gary and his family. I mean, Neil, you mentioned it talking about Tiger, uh if if anybody has not seen his interview gary woodland's interview with rex hoggard from players championship week

i would just encourage you to go watch that i watched it again today um i i think gary is is just the power of of sharing something personal about himself has turned me into a fan and i i guess i don't say that lightly. Like, Gary Woodland's never been somebody that, like, I've gravitated towards or who necessarily I'm seeking out if I'm going out to a tournament or even if I'm like flipping on coverage or looking for a featured group. He's just never been my guy. But now knowing what he's gone through and his ability to open up, to be vulnerable, to be a real person. Yeah, I was rooting for the guy today. Like, it's amazing how quickly that Switch just gets flipped in my own mind, where this guy that was, yeah, whatever, yeah, Gary Woodland,

I know he won the U.S. Open. And now he's like a really interesting character to me. And I'm really curious to see and follow along and ride along on this journey with him because he's led us in a little bit. He's been vulnerable. You know, he has connected to people in this whole new way. And as he said himself, it's like a thousand pounds off his back. And he goes out, he played really good golf last week. He played fantastic this week. And that can't be a coincidence. And so from where I said, it just is like, kudos Gary.

We knew we were talking Tiger off the top of the show. And it's nice to kind of have this dichotomy of human stories. And I think Gary shows what could be with Tiger. Like there's a path there, right? Um, but in and of itself, the Gary Woodland story is fantastic. And I just think this is a great cherry on top today, no matter what he does the rest of the year. But now I'm curious like he's playing really damn good golf. Yeah, like he said, he's like golf's never been better.

Yeah. Uh, and, and so I, it, it was interesting, even though he was up by seven. I found it interesting to watch a wily old vet like hit irons off the tea. Just, I mean, played like better in golf with a lot. lead, you know, he was real. But, but, you know, as a viewer, I'm leaning forward. Like, man, I wonder if he's like, I wonder what's on his mind right now. I wonder. It made me, uh, invested in the golf today and what otherwise, like you said, should have been like, oh, he's up by seven and it's two weeks before the masters and like, I, you know, March

madness is on. Like, do I really want to watch this? I was like, I was kind of like pretty locked in. Uh, and I, I just want to say this. This is a win for dudes everywhere. I feel like if you look up dude in the dictionary, Gary Woodley, his picture is right there. I mean, the guy's just like, he's a hoss. You know, he's a dude. And the guy just thwax it, man. I mean, he's leading the fucking PGA tour in ball speed at 41 years old.

What, you know, like, I know we laugh about the, oh, they're just better athletes. He's a good athlete. There's an example of like, that guy's, he's a dude, man. He, he is the fiener, like, he's had 20 more in the tank. Like, he, if you remember when he came out, like he, I remember I watched him hit a drive on the second Hall at the 2010 U.S. Open at Pebble when I was there in person. And it was like it went down. I wish I'd find the shot tracker on that

one. I don't know if they had it back then. It looked like somebody where had somebody had laid up on the par five. It was it looked. I think he flipped a wedge into the second green at Pebble. It was one of the longest drives I've ever seen anywhere ever. And I was immediately intrigued by him, went and followed him the next year in Chicago

in 2011. I think it was at Cog Hill. And then he like dialed it back. And I don't really know full story of that, but if you look back in like the mid-2010s, he, I think in 2017 or 2015, one of the years I looked up, he was like mid-170s with ball speed. And he just, I don't think it was a physical thing. I think he just was kind of reining it in for whatever reason. He got back up, back up in the 180s there pretty easily. But now he's close to 190 ball speed at age 41. He's just like embraced this stroke skiing. I've got this. I've got, I've had this thing that not a lot of

people have and I probably should have been flexing it really, really hard. And now I'm actually going to. I do want to clarify. I wasn't talking about your dudes like your. Oh, I know. That's a different category. Like dudes. You know, guys just guy is the dude.

And Randy, your point, he kind of blended in for me for a long time. I mean, he was the he was the running back on the, uh, NLU all pig skid team. That's right. In 2014, the guys been around forever long time. We've always thought he was, it was a, you know, loud traits five pool player, baby. So it's, you. Yeah, it's now he's got, you got a little bit, you know, yeah, like there's something to root for. So it's, I don't know, it's, it was fun today.

He did, if you will, just real quick, Randy, he said, you know, a question he got, he said. So my heart rate gets going. I had to battle this week. The last 10 holes on Friday, I teed off on nine and some people behind the ropes got close to me and I got extremely hypervigilant. I'll tell you this. If it wasn't for tour security and my security, Zach, this week, there's no way I'm sitting here right now. I was a wreck the last 10 holes of that day. I got into scoring.

Zach got close to me. Tor security was visual. So I saw them. They calmed me down. I got into scoring. I bawled my eyes out. I reset and I was able to come back out and take care of stuff after. Coming out,

talking and asking for help. I didn't do that last year. I didn't do that early this year. If I wouldn't ask Tor security, they wouldn't have been there for me like that. I'm extremely thankful for them. But I'm in a fight. I'm able with love and support I have around me.

I have hope. Like to win with my five with all of that shit going on, man, is so incredible. impressive like it again it was kind of like I'm watching it I'm like oh he's he's fine now it must have been really helpful to have come out with that and he's totally fine he's like no he was dealing with all this shit again on Friday like stuff that we can't understand like it's not normal like it's obviously not a normal reaction your his body is having to a lot of these things if you remember that he had a lesion on his brain that caused extreme anxiety terror and in some

cases symptoms of fear and anxiety and then he had the surgery was in September of 2020 and this PTSD PTSD has been an after effect of all of this happening. And it's just, man, again, one of those things where he gives you that nugget of like, no, it's still going on, man. I'm not past this stuff just because I talked about. It's still going on and go to win a golf tournament is just remarkable. Yeah. Switch to the center shafted putter too.

I noticed that. Roll in the potato today. Big putts everywhere, Randy. It was it was just a triumph. I loved it. I enjoyed the anecdote about his wife convincing him to get back to Randy Smith, who was a longtime golf instructor for him, and then he moved away from him. The way they told it today on the broadcast, Big Randy Smith essentially told him to like, dude, you're babying the golf ball. You know, the joke we always made about Stu Singh, you know, like quit babying the golf ball.

And he talked about putting in different shafts, shafts that he used, I think, from like 2015 to 2019 when he was like really getting after the golf ball. And he's he's made that switch lately. And yeah, he's just, he's swinging hard. And he's a little bit more. Yeah, yeah. It's fun. The only other thing I've like, my kinship with Gary has always been, he played a year of, you know, he played a year of college basketball. But it's the same exact year.

We were freshmen in college the same exact year. We're the same age. So he played the 2022-23 season at Washburn, a D-2 school in Topeka while I was out at a D-3 school in Virginia. So I've always felt a little kinship with him there. We'd love to challenge him to a game of horse sometime. Just like you challenged Votto. Yeah, tried to. He got back down.

Nikolai Hoygard did, he shot a final round 71. he did end up in solo second place. Johnny Kiefer Minmoo Lee sharing T3, Sam Stevens solo fifth, heck of a group at T6, Jake Knapp, Chris Goderup, Sadarshan, Yala Maraju, and Jason Day,

Saha'h Tgala, rounding out the top 10 with Bronson-Bergoon. Don't call me Benson Boone there with T-10 finishes there and DJ Pye's face. So I have a question for you guys is we're, you know, we're close to flipping over into major,

we're very close to flipping over to major championship. mode but we're at the end of March three months into the season almost not really this year because we didn't really have sent we didn't have century but about three months into the season I'm looking for two guys that you are more positive on right now than you were at the beginning of 2026 Randy I'll start with you do you want both guys or we want to go one at a time you tell me well let me give you my first guy then if you care for a second I can give you my second I'm just really intrigued by what we're seeing from Jake Knapp. I stole my guy.

Oh, I'm sorry. Go on. Go on. Well, just how real it is. Yeah, baby. Is this a hot couple of months? Is this a new level that he has reached and will continue on? How much juice is left in the tank to keep getting better?

I mean, as of today, he leads the tour. in strokes gain, total strokes gain. Bummer, he missed the cut at the players. You know, like the one big event so far this year, he missed the cut. But otherwise, his worst finish is a tie for 11th. And otherwise, he's been top five to top eight in every start. And to me, he's, you know, he's won once on tour. And he's always kind of just been a dude.

And somebody that's like, oh, yeah, Jake, you know, just like a name you recognize. But I'm like, okay, Jake Knapp, like, how good are we? I see you bawling. Yeah. And like, President's Cup, maybe. You know, it's like things start to come into play where I want to see him. Yeah, I want to see him in some more big events and I want to see how real this is. Well, Randy, let me add to that.

I think he's got loud ass traits to use a phrase that that you coined for me. It's just a great. It's such a good phrase, but like the smooth golf swing, but it's magnetic because, you know, he's just cruising in the high 180s or mid-180s, whatever. I mean, he just moves the golf ball. It seems like he's really started to harness the distance and pair it up with a little bit more control off the T. He's putting a ton better the last six months.

And he's just got swag, like, period. He looks kind of looks the part of like, man, that guy's like he's got that kind of California cool. And I find it pretty easy to root for. He's also just like a course record dog like today. So it's like another course record. He shot 59 last year. It's like, that's just fun.

It's like that's, it was. kind of, I feel like borderline, I don't want to say gimmicky last year. And now it's like, no, now we're seeing like consistency. So I'm with you. It's like I was a little bit like, oh yeah, Jake Knapp, like he's the guy that used to be the bouncer. Now it's like, no, Jake Knapp's got like straight up game. And I'm, I'm rooting for him to keep this going. So there's there you have it. Loki puts the lights out too. Like he has been an unbelievable putter so far this year. And I don't know if that's the kind of thing that lasts forever. But Uh, it's, I mean, he's getting like over almost a shot and a half per round on the greens.

Well, you just have to imagine that's the best in the world over the last three months. Seeing a guy, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm always drawn to a guy that's not scared to go low because I'm terrified to go low. So when you see someone that's just not scared of it and then they're pairing it up with T6 this week. Like you said, Randy cut. And then it was six, T8, 8th, T5, T11. Those are the results this year. That's pretty strong. It's strong.

Yeah. Best putters in the world of the last three months. Jacob Bridgman won Jake Knapp number two. So let's go around. I don't want you to steal another one of ours, Randy. So yeah, Saul, you give us yours. I would let me, I don't want Neil to get two guys still. You're not going to steal mine.

Mine's kind of down the board. It's kind of a random one, but Bo Hostler. Okay. I seems much more, much more comfortable in his own skin. I love the coffee stuff. Randy, kind of what you were saying about. Is this about his game at all? Well, I feel like he's in braced, like seeing him in

brace and off the course passion. Like I'm like, oh, that's cool. Like he seems really excited about that. And like letting me in as a fan just a little bit. I mean, and other end of the spectrum here, but similar to Woodland where I'm like, oh, that's cool. Like, Bo likes coffee. And he just seems like he's like personally, like grown up.

And I, you know, I feel like I used to make fun of him a lot. And I feel like now I see him on the leaderboard. I kind of root for him. Now he's played okay. He's like, you know, up up, not in the top 50. or anything, but you didn't, you, the question was, is there somebody that you're higher on? And I would, I would put Boehsler in that category. Yeah, you took it in a different direction, which is totally fine.

That's what makes you you special. We used to call the golden retriever. Yeah. I did not. I know. And the enduring image was him in the NCAAs where like, it blew out his shoulder and he like, you know, couldn't swing the golf club. Yeah.

I was panicking for a little bit. I was boehoster playing way better than I realize. Oh, no, he's not. He's not at all. I'm written for him. Uh, I, I'm going to do somewhat of a little mea culp, not even really a mea culpa. The guy's made changes and has made tangible changes and I'm buying them. I think differently of Minwu Lee than I did at the, at the start of this year.

He said he had a long-winned answer that I, that kind of summarized in a press conference this week. But he basically said he had to slow things down to get more accurate in the signature events because those events emphasize. accuracy so much more. And he's gone from like about 4% worse than average in terms of accuracy amongst pro golfer to now being 3% in the positive. And he's only lost three yards relative to the field in the process. Like he's still hitting it very far, but now above average accuracy. His strokes gain off the tee has gone up from 0.16 to 0.85. Blah, blah, blah. That's almost three shots of tournament that he's gained just off the tee from being more accurate and still being very long. Add in, he's made a massive leap from being below average with his irons to now

above average. That's another two and a half shots per tournament. So he's added five and a half shots with ball striking since the beginning of this year compared to last year. And that's, he's already a very, very, very good putter. And, you know, he's, he's gaining, what is that? He's been basically, he's been seventh best worldwide in strokes gain so far this season. And he's doing it and just to hear him say that out loud of like the signature events i was finishing like an average of 50th in all of them i had i was nowhere to be found and just like you know what we've been talking about the last several weeks about how the signature events are such a better accuracy test than some of these just pounded events like this one uh just had me thinking differently about

man moly and i will not automatically dismiss him if he gets near the top of a leaderboard of a big event so i was telling you randy's putting you on notice you need to let him cook okay yeah nobody he lets him cook uh it's good to hear that sallie i'm not quite there yet personally but i'm glad i'm happy for you in your journey with min min woo this version of him is a different one so i stand by previous takes on it i'm glad he got back in the lab and and told us about that so what's your second one randy uh i'm cheating a little bit with this second one because i didn't really have a strong opinion of him uh in fact i didn't know who he was but i'm mega down with

God, I got to look up the pronunciation so I get it right. Sudarshan, yellow Marajou. By far the most interesting Canadian golfer on tour. I just think in a world where we have these kids, and I'm painting with a broad brush here,

but the little prototypes who have been coached from the time they could hold a golf club and they seem to be just rolling off the factory assembly line. I just dig that this guy has like bet on himself his whole life, taught himself the golf swing, had no like family help really at a young age in the sport. And here he is.

He's made the PGA tour this year and is having a hell of a run. I just, I think it's a cool story. I'm in. I find myself rooting for him. And I think back to the beginning of the year, I couldn't have picked this guy out of a lineup. I had no idea who he was. that's a good one rany you're here here neil i have no idea where you're going to go no i i had jake nap that was my okay okay okay so over to you sir i seed by time i would just say saw hith um oh i was

i feel differently about him now than i did at the beginning of the year i was worried it was a very much not good year last year that he misses window and the guy looks to be a lot closer to to maybe even the best version of himself so far this year and uh i still Still need to see a little bit more consistency off the tea. We always do need that. But I've been reminded multiple times this year of why I really was drawn to that guy. And I think there's a win in his future for this year. I think that's something I'm counting on.

It might be a big one too. Certainly relatable. Yeah. So big misses, man. It's exciting. It makes it fun. Yeah. That makes it fun.

Can't trust it though. What about going the other way? Somebody who you were. Come on. Ready. Can you kick us off. off brother somebody you're not as high on as you were at january one of this year calling colin colin you sell he's selling he's selling no no we're still holding high on calling we're

we're down from when we bought him right before the players but we're hanging on to this uh i i shit you not sallie the name in my notes that i'm going to read right now is sahith to go oh my god hell yeah and this is nothing personal against sahel let me let me just say that seems like a great guy i i i enjoy everything about him away from the golf course. I simply cannot take another stressful golf relationship in my life. I cut my teeth on the Phil Mickelson experience. I've been invested in the Jordan Speeth thrill ride. Like I can't do it with Sahith. I can't do the roller coasters. I can't do, I just don't need it for my own mental well-being. I am saying no thank you to Sa'hith. I don't need that stress in my life.

No, it's a toxic relationship for you. It's a toxic relationship. It's a toxic relationship. relationship, Neil. Thank you. And I'm saying enough is enough. I think that's so fair. For both of you. I'm happy for both of you. It's very fair. It's very fair. I can't fight you on that. I completely understand where you're coming from there. But it's also kind of part of the fun part of being a fan. So, Neil. So I got two. I'm going to go, I'm going to go with my second one first. Sung J. M. I just, I don't know what happened. I mean, it's a good one, Neil. It's just forgotten man. He's top 10 player in the world. 16 months ago, like finishing 2024. I didn't realize until we did our season kickoff, but he's now like, I was like, whoa,

he's 99th in the date of golf ranking, 92nd in the FedEx Cup, but he's still doing a little bit of the Sunjay thing where he had the T4 at Valspar. Otherwise, completely the forgotten man this year. And, you know, then I'm looking up kind of his scatter plot. I guess I thought he hit it better than he did,

but like kind of below average approach play. below average distance like i i thought his game was built a little bit more for the um like modern pga tour and maybe i i was just convincing myself of that but uh he's 27 years old and i kind expected big things i thought sung jay was going to break out like the last three years and then it's just like all of a sudden i wake up i'm like man he's not even in the realm anymore so it's just i'm just kind of scratching my head with like what's going on there that's a good one um this one maybe Both of mine are maybe just a little bit too easy and one's a little harsher than it probably should be. But the first one's J.J. Spawn.

I mean, the guy won the U.S. Open last year, almost won the players, was a rider cuper and he has just, it's gone. Like, whatever it was, it's completely gone. He has turned right back into basically being like a replacement level, PGA tour players so far this year. One top 25, it was at the players. I think he's only made one other cut, even, if I remember right, that was, yeah, he made T-40 at Sony, T-45. at Pebble. The rest he's missed a miscut of farmers, missed cut of Genesis, which is not a big cut. Mr. Arnold Palmer, which is not a big cut, missed cut at Valspar as well. So it's like he's putting horrible.

Yeah. It's really, really bad. Really bad putting so far. Yeah. So that's- Because everything else looks, I mean, not great, but, you know, and I'm just, this is the eye test on the data golf profile of the last, you know, what, six, seven events. But the, the putting is standing out as like. It's red.

Boop. Not good. All right, Randy, another round. Don't say Min Woo Lee. No, this is unfair to the kid. I feel bad, but this is just a direct result of him cracking the top 10 best players to never win a major. Oh, hell yeah. Luke Clanton, going to need a little bit more from your bud.

Just I'm going to have to see a little bit something here. We did have the T5. in Puerto Rico. Otherwise, it has been bleak this year. So I'm, I'm out on Luke Clanton until proven otherwise. God, that's just, just chum in the waters for TC and D. John. Thank you for leaving me out of that, Neil. That means the world. I tried my absolute hardest on that pod. Thank you. I'm my hottest. All right. I've got Mr. Benjamin E. Booms. Yeah. Dren doesn't look great this here. Only top 20 in 2026 was at Sony. I think he was like, I made the cut this week. Top 40. It looks. I have to look at where he finished on the leaderboard. But three straight missed cuts before

this. I got married in December. I mean, big year last year. Kind of felt like, man, we have lightning in a bottle here. And I'm rooting for that, like, not to be the case because it seems like a genuinely good dude. But like, you know, the swing has always been like, I don't know, is that going to hold up? like long term on the PGA tour. We were selling mortgages, I think, you know, a couple years ago. Like awesome story. But I just, you know, I'm like, man, maybe that was just a one hit wonder. So hopefully not, but that's you asked.

I hate, I hate hate, hate not guys, but here we are. He was mine as well, Neil, uh, you're a little harsh with some of it. He hasn't been a nearly as hard of a fall off his spawn. He's not a one hit wonder. He's still an above average tour player. I think it was like, that was a pretty massive leap, pretty sustained leap, uh, over last year and very justified. I thought Ryder Cup pick.

And now he's just kind of turned back into who he was in 2024, which is again, a very good golfer and very good professional. But I'd be surprised as we're standing here now if he would be on the president's cup team, for example, this year. What an awesome story, though, to go from. That's amazing. Mortgages, the Ryder Cup team in two years. That's pretty cool.

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Baby, come on. Back to where we at a Memorial Park? We're going to see it again here for the Chevron. I was trying to think of a new lens to view golf courses through or talk about them. We can do this for all the courses from this week. But like, who won this week? Did the players win or did the course win? And it can be a little bit of a litmus test for golf courses.

But I definitely feel like the players won this week down in Houston. But Randy, where are you out on this golf course? I'm a little bit. needing and wanting more information. I think it looks like, I like a lot of things about Memorial Park. And there's enough there to where I'm like, ooh, that's interesting.

Ooh, okay. It might, it might just not be a good course for the PGA tour is where I net out. But I am excited to see the women play it at the end of April for the Chevron. I'm curious how similar the conditioning will or, won't be. But I guess I can give it a compliment. It's a course that looks like I would like to play it,

and I think I would enjoy playing it. So, you know, take that, I guess, for what it's worth. I think that's well said. I enjoyed it. I thought, I mean, God, I thought the aerials of it may be any other Texas course I've seen on the PGA tour. I was like, man, this looks cool. Like I like the Barancas and the like that 13th, the short four with the,

no bunkers on it and you know i mean those guys they weren't struggling but it was like those are some tight lies eight and feet you know greens 10 feet like pitched up like that sweden's like greens yeah and i and i was like man i said the same thing right as like i would love to play there like that looks like that looks like that looks like an awesome municipal golf course and i think it should get a ton of flowers for that it looks like shout out to the doquito looks like they thoughtful redesign and i'm i'm glad it's being featured uh on tv is how I feel. Yeah, it, it, I might, I ask you guys to prepare a take you've had in the last three years or so that you'd like a little bit of a mulligan on or mea culpa on.

And I'm going to softly wade into the waters here with a take of mine that I've, I've been pretty steadfast on. More clarifying than I am willing to wave the white flag or admit defeat on, but I have underestimated at minimum the importance of rough and pro golf as far as, when it's really gone like this week it was like oh this is this is fucking for for these guys in particular now the opposite end of the spectrum i also think stinks i think just thick rough every like tori pines narrow and thick rough is is not a good combo but it it just felt like there is no punishment eGA tor take no you got to thread a needle here it is you do with with the technology out of control you've got to thread a needle neal you do and that makes it really, really hard.

And that's why they got to get the, but like, it's not a coincidence. I don't think that we have Gary Woodland, just a massive ball speed guy, Nikolai Hoygard, blowing it all over the yard and just like, what was the 12th?

We're missing big in the last group. He missed so far wide and they're like, oh, he's totally fine over there. He had a better, he got past all the trees. Minwu Lee, who again,

making progress on this. But he's there, Chris got her up in the chasing Sunday thing, so I can't wait to get to Houston so I can just hit it anywhere. It needs a little bit more teeth for a PGA tour event, Randy, to your point. And that's where it's like, yeah, this is a good municipal golf course. I like that they're playing in a municipal golf course.

I don't want the golf course to get, you know, ruined or, you know, the municipal play should take precedent over the golf tournament, you know, in general anyways. And I think, I hope we see a little bit more rough for the women or even a little tighter fairways for the women. And I think that there's a better chance that a lot of the features around the greens get drawn out. uh with the women playing in i think it could very well be a nice uh major championship venue but for the for the overseed though neal the oh it i was about to say that it just it just doesn't quite do it for me man it just um it could it could use some rough which i again the compliment i give it though i thought the like some of the par threes those guys got their hand

in the cookie jar on uh i mean there was some good there was maybe not enough there there were some challenging holes, I thought, that made these guys tested the short game, made him think a little bit, but overall, yeah, they just got a bomb it. Yeah. The fourth hole on Saturday, the back left pin, Carl Phillips got got. That was a crazy. You'd ever see the tour really, you know, they're doing their best. They push a couple of whole locations, and that one on four, a long par four.

Those putted it off the green, chipped it off the other. He was putting for birdie and made a triple on that hole, which is the other thing I'll say, it's shout out to Houston. It felt like a good atmosphere out there. Like not like crazy crowded where it would be like no fun. But it looked like, man, you're on the like plenty of people on the rope lines. Just just good. I don't know, good energy.

You know, broadcast a little sleepy. But hey, man, it's two weeks before. Yeah. We knew that was going to be. We knew that. That's what we signed up for. That's in the model. When we signed up for this year podcast, Randy, we knew it would be a sleepy week.

We knew that. which brings me into my next question in a future world like we're in a clear lull here between players and masters it's hard to get amp for for valspar Houston Valero something that you know unique features in all of them that are not make them auto skips obviously but should there be this weekend in a future PGA tour world if there's going to be three tournaments between the players and the masters should the tour focus on having a big event this weekend does that make sense It's a good question. I'm going to play the Uno reverse card because I feel like Sully doesn't get to answer the questions first very often. And I'm going to say, Solie, why don't you tell us your opinion?

Thank you, Randy. It's time for a fucking question of you guys. I think they should. I mean, we have a stretch of five of six signature events in majors here coming up. And, you know, granted the entire PJ tour schedule is a big erector set. And it's not easy to unwind and just move stuff around at will.

but I think Doral would be pretty darn great. If we're going to do Durowl, which is not my favorite golf course, that would make sense in this spot with a big field. Now I think what they're going to run into, the problem here is having the signature event right after the Masters and wanting to leave players with the option open to play the week before if they want to as well.

So now you're talking four in a row for some guys. And, you know, that's something. That's why there's probably not one. but it does feel like, you know, maybe could you add another week in between the players and Masters and then you get one, you get a signature event three weeks ahead of the Masters, and then the two week lull,

it just feels like three week lull is a lot in this time period. Yeah. But not easy solution. It's more, I would zoom out even farther. It's like, what do you think is a better best practice? Do you line them up like Bay Hill and players

and have back-to-back, big tournaments and then a break or do you go like one big tournament week off like every other week you have a signature event you see what i'm trying to say yeah like i i almost think you got because like and there's got to be a break somewhere so you're saying you're basically saying that you think three weeks is too long yes and i think i just think this time of year is we're kind of teetering on the edge starting weather starting get better people start getting outside like the you know golf is big this time of year engagement week to week on the pGA to is big. When majors start, it dips a fair amount in between weeks. And it's like, just could you

squeeze one more in this time period and lead up into the Masters? Again, it's not perfect. It's not clean. If you're keeping Heritage the week after the Masters as a signature event in a new world, which is not a guarantee, I don't think. I mean, RBC could be alternating between Canadian Open and heritage being signature events for all we know. But I think this would not, there's going to be changes in 2028 and it would not surprise me if there's a change around this weekend two weeks in front of the masters is my overall point but something else would have to change downstream as well i mean you could you could talk me into lightening up the signature load in in may yeah and moving one to march for sure yeah uh i just feel like that yeah like the miami truest pg a championship

PG a championship's like, uh, you know, a little, it just gets a PHA. It's like, no, man, I'd rather go play golf. I looked at, I'm taking a week off on one of those. Yeah, you know, so I'm with you. I just on like the calendar itself. Like, yeah, this is probably a better place to capitalize. Then you think about, yeah, like college basketball, it's like, okay, it's still sweet 16 elite eight, which is good, you know, good TV, but a good golf tournament on right now would.

I would watch. For sure. For sure. I think just to just to add to this, I, I, I, I, this hurts me to say but I think Harburtown being a SIG event probably doesn't make sense. I would ship that signature event

into this space. Or any one's set to be sleepier. Well, I've actually loved seeing all the top guys play Harbortown, but it's just like, man, everybody's coming down for Master's Week. Like that doesn't have to be a signature event. I will say, though, if the schedule does

remain as currently construed, I think this is a great opportunity for a new and revamped LPGA schedule to put a really interesting event or two into this space for all of the reasons you stated. You know, it's it's kind of the height of a lot of people's golf watching. And so I think it would be a good opportunity for the women to have a great event. And I don't think the Ford Championship, at least at that golf course, is it. But we're going to talk about that.

You didn't think, do you think Wild Horse Pass one or the field? I think while the horse pass tapped out Thursday morning. Wilder's pass got euthanized on the track. Got yeated. I'm not sure. Out of the starting gate. We'll get there. Other news and notes,

Blades Brown, solo third on the Corpherry tour this week, now projected up into the 22nd in the standings. Very, very early still in the Corfair's horse. I actually enjoyed, I had the dual screen on. Yeah. And, man,

it was, it was like nobody was out at that. uh until you got to like 17 18 at the the club car championship uh kind of fun fun golf to watch though like uh i haven't watched a lot of corn fairy and that was uh good stuff what was up with i did you see ian gilligan had was wearing a backwards hat did you see that is out there trying to grow the game or did you see that clip i didn't see that clip i saw it in passing um rady's got a backwards hat on right now i know that's growing the game yeah what is firing generations And I just want to, you know, put a, you know, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, I'm

it was a great run. It was great season come. No one really believed in us, but it, unfortunately, they fell short in the, in the, in the so-fi cup, uh, on Tuesday. And, um, yeah, obviously with what's on, I can't, I can't, can't transition it to, to, to what happened with Tiger in the, in the later part of the week. But it was, it was funnier, it was going to be funnier to euthanize this, this season, uh, before before the incident that happened later. But, but, uh, tough effort with, you know, they had to vamp for like two hours afterwards because they were planning on to go three, which didn't seem very well sketched out. So it's like, what is up with this trophy ceremony? This is so bad. And she was, she was like, why are we still watching? What do we got sports center on site here? That's, they're making me laugh.

I love it when my wife comes from the top rope on some of this stuff. I can't believe they didn't fix it. Like, it's, it's green golf. You're telling me you can't put the fix in on that to stretch. What are we doing? It's why I invested so heavily into one of the founders of the league's team. I thought they had to have the fix-in. At the Hero Indian Open, is it A-U-Henio or Eugenio, Randy? It's A-U-Hanio-Swarres, and now I'm caught up on it. Yeah, for our beloved A-U-Hanio-Swarez,

I candidly now I don't know. You're making a thing. I think Neal's the expert here. Is it pit or pint? You tell me. A-U-Hah-Chicara hit a. three-run homer to win the game for the reds today. No, he took a four-shot leading the final round,

but it's Alex Fitzpatrick wins for the first time on the DP world. Tori won by two shots over Shakara. He actually doubled the final hole to still win by two shots. Final round 69 was bested only by Mateo Manasero. The final round scoring average was 76.1. He was six back playing the sixth hole, doubles 18, to win by two. Like, that's how volatile the score he was and how bad Chikara felt. apart. Fitzpatrick birdied 6, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 15, and 17. I only caught up on this one with the highlights,

but my God, DLF, man, is just- I'm so in. Also, at the Fitzpatrick brothers in general, don't get a look for the Fedora 5 just as a unit. What are we doing? We should have, we should have phone TC for an update on the Fedora 5 this week, but he's obviously not here. A package deal right there. Get them on the list. DLF though, man. I thought about this. I was like watching the flyovers of the holes and watching all the highlights and everything.

Do you remember that video that was going around? I think it was a couple years ago. Like the caption on Twitter was like, nothing prepared me for what they were going to show when they zoomed out. And it was Jim, it was Jim Justice on stage with his dog at some rally or something. That's how I feel every time they show a highlight.

of an approach out into a green at d lf it's just like whoa what is that next to the green like a fake rock outcropping like oh the next toll's got a lake oh the next tolls got a massive like skyscraper apartment building oh the next one's got foam wall bunkers that are about 15 feet high it's so absurd they're pushing the the art forward i i'm i'm way in man like you got to you got to create an identity in this world. Who is playing this golf course week to week? They should, uh,

they need to have more pro events at this guy. There's all the pro's only should be pros playing this golf course ever. It looks so freaking impossible. 17th hole is completely outrageous. 18 that hole is as is looks like a golden tea hole. Uh, it's it's, I watched it about get all the drone flyovers. I was like,

I think I, if I was just on a roller coaster and I need to throw up. Like I, I'm a little nauseous, uh, after watching all of this. Dr. Mjal's out. there through the trophy i mean it's good stuff man i think they can do night golf there if i'm

reading their website correctly i believe that would be great for for you know getting on in a decent window yeah yeah yeah what an unbelievable place you're right yeah uh shikara man he is such a weird golfer to watch he's extremely unconventional like if you go back and watch the highlights like his chip on 11 is just like it looked like area jutanagan Randy last year at Chevron just like just stabbing at it. Uh, he puts with a broomstick with a glove on and it doesn't, doesn't look natural. I mean, he finished second place.

He's obviously an incredible player, like to do, to be able to do all that while looking as unconventional as it does, like it just, that jumps off the screen to me. Uh, when you watch him as like this looks very uncomfortable. Uh, he would look very uncomfortable today. Trying to close out a lead on that golf course would be an absolute nightmare. And he had a very tough final round. But, uh, he's, he's entertained to watch. That's for sure.

And we're probably going to see it back on the PGA tour here very soon. Not back on the PGA tour, but the first time we'll see it on the PGA tour here very soon. I look forward to it. That's honestly the most exciting review. I think you could have given us about somebody. I will be tuning in. He hits the shit out of it.

We know that. Randy, you want to take us to the Wild Horse? Yeah. It's a wild horse that did not win this week. It's just kind of a nondescript. Delft did win, but the Wild Horse did not win, yeah. Yeah, Wild Horse, nondescript, Desert Golf Course. But this was the four championship and boys in case you didn't get enough of

Hio Kim and Nellie Korda dueling last week. They played all four rounds together this week, meaning they've played their last six competitive rounds together. Jiu, I'm just going to call her H.J. Kim for purposes of brevity. She shot opening 61. She went 61, 69, 61. came into Sunday with a four-shot lead over Nellie Corta. Kim was chasing an LPGA scoring record of 32 under over four days.

She would not get there, but she would win the tournament. It looked like we were going to have a little, you know, reminiscent of last week, Nellie chasing her down, making things interesting. Nellie eagled the par five second. She birdied the fifth and the seventh. that got her all the way up to 25 under. Kyoju though, she had a good start of her own. She buried the fourth, the fifth, and the seventh.

She got up to 28 under par. And then on the eighth hole, Kim ran into trouble, self-inflicted. She doubled. She dropped back to 26 under and was just one clear of Nellie heading to the ninth hole. And then unfortunately, Nellie quickly gave it away. She bogeyed the ninth, bogey the 10th. Her bogey on nine, she missed like a little three and a half foot slider. Not the easiest putt, but just indicative of some of the short misses we've seen from Nellie.

And so after that bogey on 10, the lead was back up to four shots, and it really never got tighter the rest of the way. Kim finished at 28 under, I will say props to Nellie. eagled 17, birdied 18 to finish at 26 under two shots back. It's actually Nellie's lowest four-round total of her career, but it wasn't good enough today. I will note Nellie bogied the 15th hole. She missed like a dead straight two-footer for par. And so just again, like she just throws in enough of these little miss puts that I don't know. I'm still really nervous. and it just gives me pause and I feel like she's going to the putting's going to be a problem at some point.

Let's just get them out of the system at the Ford. You know, on the road to 11. I'd rather I'd rather they happen now, Randy, than at Chevron or later that's true at the US Women's Open or any of these five majors. That's one way to look at it. So let me just say, Joju Kim, this was her second win in as many starts. She won the Founders Cup last week. It's her ninth career LPGA victory. She defended her title from 2025 at the Ford Championship.

And just some stats. One thing, and I do want to ask you guys about this in just a second, Mel Reed was in the booth serving as the analyst this week. And Mel was saying, you know, Hjou is such a consistently good ball striker. I mean, her swing, it's like a metronome. It's just hard to imagine her not hitting the golf ball well. And so when she puts well, she can go on runs like this, where she's truly one of the best players in the world.

And coming into Sunday, she led the LPGA in putts per green in regulation at 1.66 pts per green in regulation. And to go along with, she's hitting 83.3% of her fairways and 73.6% of her green. So it's just a really, really good combination right now for, for, uh, Hioju Kim. We'll see if she can keep it going next week. Um, I'll be curious, you know, trying to win three weeks in a row is, is certainly difficult. But man, she looked good this week after winning last week. I do want to ask you guys about Mel Reed. Uh, I think personally, you know, we talked a little bit last week about Morgan Pressel in the booth.

I just don't think Morgan's it. And I think that was reinforced. forced listening to Mel Reed this week. I think there is such a gulf between those two in the analyst role. I think Mel is somebody that just her voice, like her pitch, her inflection, like not even counting the insights. And I think she gives us way better insights than Morgan. She just enhances the telecast. And so, Solly, I know you were watching. I don't know how much of this you caught. But like, Solly, do you feel the same? Like, I just feel like it's night and day. Like,

Mel Reed, this is who the LPGA needs to target with this revamped, uh, and strategic, like, rethinking of their broadcast. I completely agree. I think she is extremely in touch with players on the tour. She's just a natural. She's been on the podcast a couple times and like, it's just very good at shooting straight. Helps to have an accent. It really does. It does. It really He got swag, though, too. I saw a couple of social clips. And yeah, she's out there. She's cool.

And she's a vibe. Breakdown was really good. I saw that. I caught that today of Nelly's swing. Yeah. No notes, Randy, what's what you said? She can be, yeah, she, I don't know. I just think it's like, dude, this is so obvious.

So I'll be really curious how this keeps developing. I hope they keep giving Mel opportunities in the booth. on the LPGA tour because it is night and day. Let me talk about Nelly Corder then real quick. She's having, well, I guess this is the question. I want to take you guys, I'd like for you to give me a temp check on Nellie's 2026. She won her first start, which was in Orlando at the tournament of champions,

which had the controversial, they cut play. Craig Kessler talked about it, Solly, when you interviewed him, tough decision. So we phone him right now, bring him in. Do you want bring them in to talk about it for a third time, maybe? So I think there's like a bit of like, yeah, Nelly won, but it's like, yeah, that wasn't like an actual event. And she skipped the whole Asian swing. And so she finished runner up to H.J last week.

She finishes runner up to H.J. this week. Like she's been beaten by one woman across three tournaments. I think this is like really good signs for Nellie. Thanks. Randy, she stinks. She cannot get it done, cannot finish. Like she hasn't won. She's still missing some shorties.

So I'm just, yeah, I'm curious. It's tough. It's, it, it, my instinct, I was being sarcastic there for a second, but that is where my instinct goes of like, what? You didn't put up a fight today. And you didn't put up that consistent of a fight last week. What happened? But it's hard you're going up against, you know, you delete one person out of it.

And the one person doesn't get on like a career hot, hot, heater right now like H.J. Kim and she probably wins back to back events and we're like do here we go again. This is it 23. That's the sensible take. I don't know. Or the other optimistic look is it she's looks like Scotty pre-Mallet. That's interesting.

And that's a big question. It's like on the road to 11. Come on. Let's go. We're running out of time. It's so hard, Reney. I know this. I don't want to you know, trigger you more than you already are about this topic. But like,

the stats of the LPGA. We're working off of catty estimates on, on putt length and everything. And like, it does tell a bad story about her putting this, this week. But it also, the ball striking,

it also tells a story of like historically good. So I'm like, yeah, maybe the ball striking isn't as good. It's somewhere in between. It is. It's probably somewhere in between. I don't think the putting,

I don't think you get to, I, like, I don't think you physically can get to that far under par and be that negative with putting over a 72 holes. but it is it there's enough of these like putts that she misses and again a lot of her golfs on television we see a lot more of that than you know it when when hate on you doesn't is not in the picture we don't see all of her miss puts you know it just how it flows so it paints a different

picture and you do get a um i think if you're asking me tomorrow like to zoom out and no i court is playing excellent golf right now if you're asking me this evening i'm still a little bit like man what the hell was that those two miss puts were terrible you should be you know the that golf course should have fit you well and you should have been at bad times too like a knack for those buts happening at inflection points like when it's oh what a missed opportunity two shot swing whatever it is yeah i i'm i'm with you guys completely uh it's i i think where i net out though it's like it's really nice to see nelly knocking on the the door to win it i mean she did win in orlando's but uh after going all last year with that

winning it's like holy shit like this cannot continue into 2026 and it hasn't to her credit she she is playing very very good goal so i yeah i'm i'm bullish um if you will can i just go down the leaderboard real quick i don't it's not going to be tc but just calling out a few names here uh lydia co had a look at 59 on thursday morning before coverage uh and And there were like no cameras out on the course. Friend of the pod, Bethann Nichols. He was getting in Chad Coleman's ass. And I feel bad for Chaggs.

It's like, yeah, I haven't been on the job too long. Like I know the problem. Yeah, like this is what we're trying to fix. I think that these guys are legitimately like, dude, no, do it. Do it. Do it shred. That will help us get things down. Like shred us.

I can say this. March didn't feel very major on the LPGA tour for me. So, you know, and I know, I'm not blaming Chad or this week. Last week was great, I thought. Yeah, just a little bit like, yeah, it's just not where it needs to be, though, overall. Just like with TV coverage, you know, all of them, man. Just don't do a good job of bringing in an American audience in January, February, March, which are like prime golf watching months for most of this country.

But Liddy Co, she did not shoot 59. She ended up shooting 60 on Thursday. I think a bit of a rally killer, Sully, her second and third rounds weren't great. She did end the week at 20 under par, solo fourth place, so a good week for Lydia Co. And I just wanted to shout out Mimi Rhodes,

a young English woman rookie this year on the LPJ tour, had a great year on the LET last year. She was tied for six this week. It's her best finish of the season. So just somebody to keep an eye on for folks. I think she we're going to hear from her this year. Roseang shot 66 today.

She snuck into the top 10 as a tied for ninth. So good, good result. I'll remind folks, Rosang, 22 years old. I think sometimes I feel like she's 26, 27. She's 22 still. So she graduated yet. Good things. I don't think so officially.

I'm actually not sure. Or more years. She'll be really good. Stanford just needs a releaseer. Come on, guys. I know. The kid to the diploma, get out of there. In the Tide for 34th cohort, you had three big names, Lottie Wode, Ronning Yin and Angel

Yin. Gino Titicum finished tied for 50th. I think that's completely unbecoming, especially because like a Birdie Fest golf course is where she typically has really shown. So not a good week for Gino. Need more from her. And then the world number three, Charlie Hall, the world number six, Miu Yamashita. They both missed the cut.

That's especially damning this week. Oh, yeah. Tell them, Randy. Amateur asterix tally. She had a nice week. I think she ended up finishing Tide for 29th. Good warm-up. She's going to head to Augusta this coming week.

Randy, I played 18 holes with her. Like, was it three weeks ago, two weeks ago? Like, she hits the shit out of the ball, man. I heard she's moving it more. Oh, my God. She on track me. She's like carrying it $2.90. I mean, she was, yes, no joke, man.

It was crazy. I mean, we were at altitude. It was in the desert. So like the, up the desert mountain like by Scottsdale. But, I mean, she hits the shit out of it. She's super fun, too. I had a blast. I love here into that.

Yeah. And she was all jacked up about going to that Sage Valley. It's like that big junior invitational. Okay. And I think it's like, I think it's 20 or 30 kid, like boys, 20, 30 kids. like boys 20 30 girls like nope they stay there like the parents it's like uh they all look forward to it you know like all these like just sub on non golf just as much as the goal exactly she's yeah we just hang out it's great it's like best event of the year so uh anyway got video of that

coming out in probably early may pretty cool miles russell's going to be on the bag for uh at the at the anwa which is be that yeah i could picture that like 10 years from now being the photo that we see like the j t spieth one that we see like on repeat whatever. Yeah. Because I think Russell's on his way to, to a lot of golf success. So yeah, this week,

fun week on the women's side, obviously ANW at Augusta, that's going to start midweek. And then on the LPGA, it's a joint LPGA, LET event at Shadow Creek in Vegas. And I just want to, if you've not watched in the years past,

they had a match play event at Shadow Creek. And then last year was stroke It's an outrageous golf course. And you see a lot of wild shit. It's kind of like the indie event this week on the DP World Tour. So that's one I'm very excited to watch stroke play from Shadow Creek next week. That should be a good time. So it's kind of it on the women's side.

One of the more boring tournaments, quite honestly, more boring venues of the year. I like the West Coast. I did like legitimately look forward to settling into watch it this evening, though. Like after the kids go down, like, the West Coast night viewing. That's just the personal phase of my life currently. Like I'm really enjoying the West Coast. I hope they end up on the West Coast when they redo the schedule still in this time period.

So I got one last little segment. Then we'll do some odds and ends here. Adam Shupak got a good article this week on golf week. Just asked. He asked about eight or nine guys, 10 guys maybe at Augusta, master's players or past champions. What they would,

a design change they would make to Augusta National. I'm going to read just some of these if you'll allow it. Harris English said blow the fifth green and blow up the fifth green and start over. Just sick. Whoa. Good for him. I like that one. Craig Stadler said to toughen it up a bit.

I would put two bunkers just before it bends at the par five 13th hole at the edge of the pine straw. That would be a pretty good defense. They don't have to turn the ball there anymore. They hit it down the left with a little cut and carry it 310 and they're getting another 20 yards of roll. They're hitting eight irons in there. Something like the bunkers, they added. left of five something that you absolutely not get to the green if you hit it

in there they move the teaback 40 yards there and they're still hitting six seven eight irons in so it didn't do much for them so he's saying up on the on the right on the right yeah okay yeah the outside of the dog leg yeah I don't think they're going to do that yeah that's an interesting thought I don't think they're hitting eight irs there

more from him coming later this week much more from the walvers coming soon uh keegan bradley would make 13 a little shorter I might agree with Kagan on this one. I think introducing a little bit of temptation around that corner is, now it is just like drive it straight down there and it's probably fun.

So almost making them think, should I hit three wood or driver because you're going to really run out of room? Or just kind of putting a little bit of thought of can I get a little bit, can I cheat a little bit farther left? I attempted to go there, but now you're just not tempted nearly as much. Like you almost just can't. So Larry Mys,

I would take the first cut out and let the ball run. I like it when it would run into the pine straw. Way down with that one. Sounds good. Yeah. I would sign your petition, Larry. Ricky Fowler. I'd replace Ike's tree.

I just think about how prominent it was visually. And then not that it was intimidating, but there was a presence there. It'd be nice if 17 was kind of back to what that was. It made that T-shot visually a lot easier. Yeah. 17 has no identity. There you go.

You get an Andina. I liked Ricky's answer until he said it visually, it would make it a lot easier. I'm like, yeah, well, I don't want that. That's a good point. Saw hith said, I know distance is becoming an issue, but the new T-boxes at 11, 13, and 15 seem unnecessary. I know they don't want 20 under winning the masters, but at 13, for instance, they've taken away some of the intended design of the hole and the risk reward. Again, to a lot of these, I'd just be like, well, the technology is the problem here, guys.

And 15 used to make sense as a wide hole, but now it doesn't. And, you know, that's an hour long. conversation. Jason Day, the new T on 13 makes it way harder. I don't think it's needed. Wrong rationale there, but I don't disagree with it. I kind of still agree that it should be up a little bit farther, but making it hard isn't a reason not to do it. Rare dub for Zach Johnson. I don't have a problem with it, but I just wish I could have played Augustine National when there was no intermediate rough known as the first cut. I don't know if it would make it easier or harder. That's a good take. I think it would make it more interesting. We'd love to just see it again.

You know, like, let's watch it a Masters with no rough. Wyndham Clark, I'd fix the fifth hole. The green was designed to have a wedge or nine iron in. Now we're hitting five irons to a green that slopes away from you and you can't hold. Gary Player said nothing. I mean, Wyndham's making a point. The fifth green, if you've ever been there, it is outrageous. It's ridiculous.

It doesn't come through on TV, maybe. Well, that's where my question is going to be, what change would you make? And I'll go first there because that's where I would start is. The fifth hole is supposed to be a replica of the road hole at St. Andrews, which you would never, like, that's like, really? Exactly. That's like, was the original intent of the hole. It's still listed on the website there. If you go to the fifth hole saying it was inspired by the road hole at St. Andrews, I don't see it at all now. But if it is, again, this one goes right to left, the road hole kind of goes left to right and has a green side bunker left of the green. So if you're kind of inspired by that, I think, a bunker front right, like there's a bunker long of five green. They're like that bunker should be in front of the green kind of to the right. Where if you are bailing way right, you know, granted, they have trees and things that make it difficult for you to bail way right.

You don't, you can't just bail way right as it stands. But you could widen that a little bit if you wanted to. But if you play up the right, you are going to have to navigate the bunker a lot more than if you play down the left closer to the bunker. Like that would be more road hole exchange. of value in that. You can do a bunch of cool pins around the front near that and have the angle be a little better from the left side of that fairway with some of the pins if you got creative with it.

That would make more sense than the fifth hole as it stands now. I don't necessarily agree with Wyndham Clark. I mean, Roy and Bryson hit nine irons into that in the final round. I don't think there's a lot of five irons going into that green still from the longer hitters, but it is kind of just a messed up green and hole. It just doesn't really. a big yeah it's kind of just kind of just hard for the sake of hard could be better yeah so that's kind of it's kind of it's a tough hold of watch too because you know a lot of times you don't see the guys

on the approach like if you're sitting by the fifth green just from a viewer standpoint it's not the most exciting place to watch golf it's just it's a really difficult hole it's a striking green but like they can't even a lot of them can't even see the ball coming into the green so like the massive elephants in that green so like the yeah massive elephants in that and you don't, you know, there's not a lot of drama there. There's a lot of car wrecks, but not drama. It is, it says on the website, The Hole is inspired by the legendary Rold Hall at the old course at St. Andrews.

Bobby Jones initially disapproved of the Fairway Bunkers. It's just a funny thing that's on the Augusta website. For the life, I mean, I can't figure out how it's inspired by the roadhole, but I guess that's another. I think you'd have to go way back to the origin, and I don't have the image in front of me. Yeah. But anyways, Rainie, what would your change be?

I thought about, I feel like this one's kind of a common one, something to do at number three and just making it more of a true, like, risk reward, drivable par four. But that's not my answer. I'm not going there. Going TC here. You know, I've long had issues with the 16th hole. And so let me present this, this adjustment and see if you guys like it.

I would, I've thought long and hard about this. I think I would get rid of the bunker on the left side of the green and kind of make that sloping all into the water. To where if you're going to go, you know, if you're going to be aggressive and, you know, be left of that ridge or get at that pin, you know, that kind of that back pin, I don't want the bunker there as a catch basin

and almost a safety outlet for shots. I want real severe damage if you miss the green left. And so that way, I think a lot more guys are going to play further right up the ridge, missing right, and when that pins down at the bottom, it's just a lot trickier of a hole. And I think it rewards the shots that do catch the ridge, that do funnel down, that they would be more meaningful to me. So I suggest getting rid of that bunker left of 16 green.

I think that's a great answer. I was sniffing around 16 as well. I would shrink the lake, bring the crowd closer in, make the patrons right on top of, because I don't like the ponds are unbecoming. Creeks are better. You know,

I think that used to be a creek. I always found that pond to be just a little bit of like, ah, man, like it's a cool environment. Obviously, a lot of action happens there, but I just would like to make the pond smaller. I think is where I would go with that. One of the greatest pieces of media,

golf media ever put together, and we can link in the show notes, is Golf Digest, a comprehensive list of changes made to Augusta National. I look at it every year. So the green used to, there was a creek there, and the green used to actually sit left of that creek,

and it was moved in 1948 by Robert Trent Jones to the right, and that formed a pond. And that bunker wasn't there in 1948, Randy. They put the bunker in in 1949. because he raised the height of the back terrace, added a tiny third bunker on the left. He also dammed and piped underground a stream that had previously split the T-box, blah, blah, blah. And there's all kinds. I mean, the bunker, it's evolved a lot over the years, kind of the shape of that,

the shape of that green and the Mose and all that stuff. But anyways, I love that. A creek splitting a T-box is cool. I mean, you know my answer is 17, but I'm not. I won't go there. I'm going there. Randy, I'm interested you don't like three.

I think three is a great hole. No, no, I like three. I just wish it was more, it seems like nobody can actually get there with driver. I just, I feel like we talk about every year, like almost make it more reachable. So it's more risk, more reward.

I don't know what, the 11th hole. I wish it was, it's an awesome hole, but it's, like something's missing for to it for me like it's just like guys are bailing out so much to the right it's like should they just shorten it so they i don't know like again introduce the risk of um or i don't know let them maybe even like let them blow it farther right so they can

get an angle to like tempt them into you know taken on the green a little bit more so they almost have more of a square angle and then you'd see more ball i just want to see more balls go in the water on the left on 11 and i don't know what the answer for that is but like the trees they took out like they they took out a bunch of trees down the right they have been doing okay it's well last year i just when i was there i just didn't feel like i saw a whole lot of of it is just bailout it's bailout city every year it's like everyone's so scared to take on that green and i'm like i don't i'm not you know golf architecture guy to know what how to i don't know tempt them to do it more yeah so in 20 again this from that article in 22 uh they did

to adjust the tree line on the right side to discourage competitors from intentionally bailing out to the right pine straw for a better angle to the green. So now you can't go as far right. You see able to drive it like, you know, do the tiger go way right. And he had like that angle and we was sitting off the kitty litter. But I guess that's what I'm saying.

I almost want that back. I want more exciting approach shots into 11. And so if that makes the whole easier, I'm cool with that. But like when was a lot? I can't think of a time. a guy, guys have gone into the water like Ludwig, like short, like come up short, but there's nobody's like running over the back or falling off like in the middle left of that green anymore.

And I think it's because it just doesn't make sense to even take it on when you hit the fairway there. And it's like maybe, maybe they just need like adjust the angle of the whole. And that can be very stupid. But that's, I want, except 11 should have more excitement than it does, I guess is what I'm trying to say. Well, if you'll allow me, you know, I'll pull this up again and put on the screen. Like look at the angle.

of the hole in 1934 like it used a dog leg to the right like that was with a centerline bunker and now like you advance ahead to 22 it's like a straight hole now yeah i think that's maybe what i'm what i'm getting at it it i like that it's very difficult uh it's just kind of a boring difficult and um that's like five magical place on the course it'd be cool if there was a little i remember sitting in that grandstand on i think saturday the one like next to 11 green and it was like and you're watching 12 it's just not a lot of like exciting stuff was happening coming down the hill on 11

it's just like okay we're gonna see him you know and yeah some good do some good shots from the moguls on the right there but not not anybody flagging it or getting their hand in the cookie jar five and 11 go in that category of like they're kind of just hard for the sake of hard because you know

the golf course kind of got easy you know that's kind of kind of it a lot of like nondescript bogeys I almost wonder if you could instead of like connecting to Ray's Creek behind the green, almost run a creek in front of 11, which I think they used, I'm reading the Masters website, said prior to 1950, Ray's Creek ran in front of the 11th green and almost like wrapping around the backside of 11, like the right side as you look at it to Ray's Creek, just to make that bailout more like interesting, I guess, or thoughtful. I don't know.

It looks like it used to just kind of run like it wasn't. a pond it just kind of ran like split and ran um a little a little left a little left of the green if you can see that there okay so it never truly like came across across all right well i'm telling you this this this this article is just amazing to flip through um and you do wonder if they'll ever you know if a restoration of any kind is ever in in the cards like a lot of 11 would be a hold that would change greatly if they did so yeah as i try to land the plane here couple of final things. The Rory Masters documentary

is out, probably if you're listening to this now, it's out sometime on Monday, the March 30th. I did get a chance to watch a screener of this one. It's good. It's a good documentary. It's fun. It's a lot like the chronicles of a champion that you see on the Open Championship stuff.

You know, little over an hour long interviews with the champion, talking about emotions and look back on the childhood, definitely learn some stuff. specifics about Rory's childhood and what is upcoming was like, you know, directly from the sources on it. It is, it's fast for a documentary to come out, you know, less than a year after the event that happened. But there is, there's some good vulnerability in there from Rory on like how in, I'm not spoiling anything here if you're, if you plan to watch it, but just how, you know,

how Augusta was in his head, like very clearly. It is, it, it's, it's definitely a weird vibe, though, of having it be produced by Rory's production company. It's every documentary now. It is. It's weird. There's no, like it's, it's,

maybe we're just using the phrase documentary a little, a little too loosely now because Jack is in it, but there's no other, you know, player or peers really in it, uh, in any way and, and,

and, and, and not a lot of talking heads and not a lot of, you know, voices. It's, it's, it's a lot of Roy's dad,

where his mom, Rory, um, and a little bit of Jack in there, kind of narrating it and talking and then jack. And then jack. but it um it i i i can you believe i i don't know if it needed to come out this soon um but it's worth your time like it's worth watching it's not going to blow you away it's not like amazing thing but i

think it just a weird thing to kind of be in such a rush rush to get this out this quickly but um i get the time i mean i guess the timing makes sense of with with the masters well yeah but i mean less than you just like it you know it's just quick like it we haven't forgot about about this, you know? And they didn't, they didn't have the shot into 17 in it in this, maybe in the, maybe they changed, but the, the approach not he hits into 17 and regulation was not in it for some reason. But, you know, obviously you don't get a look into Augusta National like this, you know, an next Amazon has coverage now of Matt of the Masters. That's why this likely exists. But you get, you know, right, you know, rights to footage and stuff from the

Masters is not something we've seen outside of things that Augusta has produced. Obviously, there's the ESPN shark documentary that they did, which I think was probably, that was stronger than this one, I think is, just because there's not, you know, this, this happened. What made the shark one really interesting is the guy never got one. Right, right. What makes this one less interesting is now this exists because he finally gets one. You know, it would have been a bit more interesting last year of like what the document,

the journey is like to try to get one of these but uh anyways it's it's worth your time it's worth watching and fun this i mean this feels like one truly for the rory fans right like just live it all again which is great like those things should exist i remember i bought phil's book you know one magical sunday why winning is and everything after he won the masters it's like you just want to relive it all yeah yeah buy your world series shirts right yeah the old like sports illustrate hey your team just won the title here's your commemorative video yeah

I'm not ready to watch any of it sally I don't know I'm still remembered in your head I can't yeah seriously I still haven't watched the broadcast so I'm just I feel like that would spoil it for me I'm gonna abstain at this moment any housekeeping updates you want to give us

Neil yeah we got some good stuff of the pro shop right now we got a good hat sale going on if you navigate to the buy more save more collection on the top navigation bar you know it's going to be an adventure book i more save more i didn't come up with this one uh we got a bunch of hats on sale so those hats in that collection if you buy two or more you save an additional 250 on each hat and these are auto discounts randy they'll just they'll trigger on their own okay love to load them up in the cart if you buy five or more

hats on sale you can add additional five dollars off all five of the five more of those hats and these hats are already we're trying to these are priced to move randy Okay. We had we had a lot of good hats in there, but we just have a lot of them and we're trying to try to clean out. We're doing a little spring cleaning. So there's some good guerrilla blown up on the price right now to move, baby. Let's go. So get in there. You can stack your nest code with with the auto discountle hit and then you can plug in your nest code. Come on, man. You know, I don't like doing sales, Randy, but you know, I do like when people take advantage of sales. That makes me happy. So good take advantage of that store.

Not laying up.com. We've also got the Holderness and Born Spring Collection there. We got some new Roeback apparel in there and a first major themed apparel. Some fun t-shirts, some green, some yellows. You know, you kind of figure out what the first major collection is all about, Randy. Okay. Store. Not know laying up.com.

Salad, what do we have to look at? Lawyers advise those that call it. Yeah, for sure. We everybody knows the drill. Come on. What's going on the NLU pod? We did a best master's draft this past week, which was a lot of fun.

Some controversy, not really controversy, some faux controversy, some bizarre, unhinged stuff coming from the mouth of T.C. This week. Stop the steel. Truly, yeah. One of the best comments I saw this week was T.C. could still win if Mike Pence has the courage to do what's right.

Go back and listen to that. We've got a lot of feedback for that one. That was a lot of fun. TC did not win. I'll just spoil that part of it. Then got potentially a couple of master's appetizers coming this coming week, at least one, potentially, almost certainly two masters appetizers coming this coming week. Of course, as we turned the page over to the first major of the year.

Randy, what about the trap draw? What's cooking? Well, listen, baseball's back opening day last. Thursday. Happy opening day to all those who celebrate. The seamsters were talking ball. We quickly covered every team. We did a draft where we all picked. We drafted all 30 teams and then chose whether we wanted to go over or under their total win. So it was a good vehicle to talk a little bit about each club. We settled on some of our favorites. There were some disagreements. just a good time.

Good to be talking ball again. Good to have baseball back. Had a little challenge system in it, which I thought was great. I'm loving a B.S. You guys didn't ask me how the ring ceremony was for my Schanzas, went in the fantasy baseball league last year. We had a great opening day ceremony. We didn't know if you were invited to that.

We thought that might just be Jerry. No, well, that's my GM. And you know what? He got a nice fat bonus. Everybody's happy. Things are great on the on the Schenzis. Good. Yeah.

And he picks it your regatta. regretting from your draft so far randy i well i wish i would have picked up a closer thanks for asking so no i meant for the famous he's draft oh yeah i think dj was a scumback for putting the reds first on the board and i was too chicken to challenge him i i should have gone over on the reds i do think they're going to be at least a 500 ball club how about you i don't think i regret anything just yet um yeah No, I mean, maybe the Cubs. That's the one projection that's not looking so good. I think of-Horner getting paid.

Got a lot of money. Anyways. No trade clause, too. Hey, big news in a couple weeks, big special project coming out on the, on the trap draw, a project on you coming back at you. I think we'll put that out in Master's Week. So look out for that. DJ and I, I spent a lot of time doing dumb research, which I'm really excited about.

Yeah. Good, good stuff. What's, are you guys chopping this week, Randy? Yeah, TC and I are chopping. And then I think after that will be the project on you with with you and DJ. Yeah. And then I think while we're golfs returning on YouTube this week, this week or next, I think it's this week. Two part while we're changing it up a little bit.

Okay. I was going to say, get out ahead of this. Yeah. Randy couldn't make the trip with us. So it's a little bit different. But in the spirit of kind of spoofing a broadcast, we're speaking. We're spoofing a show. So I'm really looking forward to the feedback on this one.

There'll be a lot of like, these guys have changed. I can't believe they mess with this format. Don't worry. We'll bring that back to. But this, I think this is going to be a good one. Two part series.

I think Wednesday, Thursday this week. Look out for Wild World of Golf. Yeah. And please, people, I beg of you, it's a bit. Like,

we're just, this is a fun. This is a bit. I beg of you. Not, not what you're saying. Package your bokees and go. Okay.

It's a bit. All right. We're having fun with, with, with this format. And it was a lot of fun. I'm excited about it. I'm excited to watch because, as you said,

I wasn't on the trip. I was on paternity. PJA tour this week, Valero, on the LPJ tour, has mentioned the Aramcoe Championship, LEPGA, LET, COLAB. Corn Ferry tour is off to Lakewood National for the Lecombe, Suncoast Classic.

DP and World Tour and Live are off until after the Masters. Augusta National Women's Amateur begins Wednesday, rounds one and two at Champions Retreat, then on to Augusta National on Saturday after a practice round. On Friday, anything else before we go, guys, Randy, I told you'd be less than two hours. We barely got it under the gun. This was a close call.

Unbelievable. Thank you, everyone, for tuning in. Look forward to, we'll see you back here this week and almost major season. We're almost here. Crack on. Cheers.