No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1145: Rory McIlroy repeats at Augusta National

Episode Date: April 13, 2026

Rory McIlroy wins the Masters for the 2nd straight year! Join us as we recap the 90th Masters at Augusta National Golf Club. What does a second green jacket mean for Rory, Scottie's solo 2nd, Cam Youn...g's disappointing day, Hatton, Henley, TM Rose, and more? Plus on-site observations and experience, disappointments, news & notes, and more. Presented by Titleist. Titleist - #1 Ball in Golf High Noon - Sun's Up! AT&T - Connecting Changes Everything Looking to travel this year, check out East Sands Golf Co.: https://www.eastsandsgolf.co/nlu Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf The NLU email newsletter: bi-monthly updates on all things NLU: https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/subscribe Join The No Laying Up Nest: https://nolayingup.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Be the right club today. Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Nolanga podcast. The Noling of live show, if you're watching us here on YouTube. We are presented tonight, of course, by our friends at Titleist.
Starting point is 00:00:49 And guys, we are living in a world where Rory McElroy is a two-time Masters champion. what a world that is, Sully. How are you? I felt a little like Rory on that back nine. Just looked like he ran out of gas, you know, relatively early in the day. Just looked like he was doing it off pure smoke and mirrors there for a little while.
Starting point is 00:01:12 And that's what I think I'm going to have to do tonight's show off smoking mirrors. I'm exhausted. I don't know if other hustled so hard in one single golf tournament. But what a world, man. Here we spent all this time, all these years. Like most of the content of this podcast over the last decade plus was like, like when is rory going to get off the major schneide uh and now he wins back to back green jackets
Starting point is 00:01:30 like it's it's it's it's out of it i haven't really fully processed it's what we're going to do tonight but six time major champion two time green jacket winner roy mackleroy it's a it's a statement it is a clear statement we're we're bringing in our super processor tc is here to help us dig through and and figure out what it all means tron how are you uh i'm good i'm kind of confused. It was a capitulation by a lot of guys down the stretch today, but also Rory hit the shot on 12. And yeah, I'm kind of similar to you, Sally, like I'm struggling to process it, but maybe for different reasons. It just turned into a different back nine than I thought we were going to get. So let's let's let's on let's unpack at all here tonight. I love it. Well, like I said,
Starting point is 00:02:16 off the jump, we're of course brought to you by our friends at Titleist. We're going to defer. We're deferring the title is add to the second half. Neil's going to be in here later. And Titleist said, why don't you just use defense? We're going to go play defense. Why don't you use our space? Did it just walk through Neil's bag? Because Neil's playing Augusta National. Tomorrow, he won the media lottery, which is a thrill and delight for all of us.
Starting point is 00:02:36 So we're going to hear what's in the bag, what weapons Neil's taking in a battle with him tomorrow afternoon, courtesy of our friends at Titleist. But guys, let's start with zooming out a little bit of what does it all mean? They said this a couple times. Only the fourth person to ever win back to back. Masters first in 24 years. Jack, Nick Faldo, and Tiger Woods are the others. Solid company. Six major championships for Rory McElroy ties him with Lee Trevino. Phil Mickelson, I think we're going to talk a lot about that tonight. And Nick Faldo moves him ahead of Brooks Kebka in this modern era best player after Tiger Woods sort of conversation, which is
Starting point is 00:03:15 thrilling and exciting to talk about. If you're wondering who has seven, if you want to look ahead to Aeronemink, Harry Varden, Bobby Jones, Gene Sarazen, Sam Sneed, Arnold Palmer. Not a lot of modern, recent names on that list. That's a pretty heady history book there. Saul, if you're wondering why you're so worn out, Rory's win probability, is courtesy of our friends at Data Golf, of course, got as high as 69% on Friday. I told you it was over. I told you it was over and everybody freaking out.
Starting point is 00:03:48 fuck out but yeah uh no is j also told us he was going to be freed up last year last year last year i was like oh it's getting just lids off man lids off uh his win probability got as low as 11 percent today uh really holy yes uh justin rose was throwing haymakers scottie was up there of course cam yog we haven't even talked about the leaderboard yet we're going to get there uh another notable stat here rory and scotty have now won four the last five masters i just wanted to zoom out and put that one in there because we talk a lot on this podcast about like that's it's rory and it's scotty and they're going to win all the majors they're going to win all the majors and i think when you have a moment uh when you and they kind of are yeah so when you have a moment when they kind of are it's like
Starting point is 00:04:31 yeah this is you know this this is this is what it feels like uh they've won four of the last five of course john rom the other one uh and then the last thing i had here it's just rory's played 17 majors since the start of 2022 we've talked a lot on the pot about him flipping to a set like a different gear, especially at the major championships, once we got to the beginning of 2022. He's played in 17 majors now since then. He has missed two cuts. His average finish in the others is ninth.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I mean, he averages the top 10 at the majors now, which is bananas. He's got seven top fives in that stretch. I mean, he's just playing all world golf for the last four years. And we're finally seeing even more of the results. So I guess I'll fling it back to you before we get into kind of like the, the micro sally but what is where do you make of it what do you make of rory mackleroy six-time major champion two-time master's master's winner where's this coming from what are you what are you feeling this year compared to last year of like you only have a certain amount of excitement
Starting point is 00:05:33 you could have for somebody to win a green jacket and it was like a 100 out of 10 last year that you never thought of a world where what it would be like you know where do you go from that like you know he could sold the block part of your private equity for sure. He could win five in a row, and it wouldn't mean as much as that first one did in terms of like emotional investment into that. So that's the part that's difficult to process here is like, I never got as far to dream that he would win two green jackets. It's like it just did. It's like, man, I don't know if we're ever going to get one. Like it's certainly suspect. But it, I don't know if it makes sense to go here, but I don't think he would have won this year without winning last year. Like it, he had less stuff this year, I think and kind of just did the right thing. at the right time and was able to play enough with a, you know, with a little bit of release of pressure. I mean, he had a four-shot lead on the back nine last year and almost blew it. Like, I don't, I just don't, I think, you know, it was a lot tighter this go around. Nervie shot into 17. That was not an easy up and down. Nervey shot into 15. That did not go
Starting point is 00:06:36 that well. Blows it way right off the 18th hole and had to work to make bogey there. But he played quickly through this whole part. Like he was not dwindling. He, was committed to everything he was doing down the stretch and it looked somewhat routine for him. He played quickly on 13. He played quickly on 15, 16, you did not take long. 18 when he finally got everybody moved. He did not play long, go long.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I found it interesting. I actually, we got lucky. We ended up down the right side of there. We were just a few feet away from him as he was hitting that second shot. And even in that moment, he got, he got very much crowned over there. He had an incredible gap. Very much so bad. It's good. It could have been way, way worse. but closest I've ever I've been all week to hear him and his catty Harry Diamond talking and just like even in that moment like leaning
Starting point is 00:07:22 who knows more about like golf and his own golf shots and what a ball's going to do than Brory does and he like went to Harry and was like you think it's going to spin more a little bit more off his pine straw and I was like yeah I think you probably know that man but it's just I found that interesting that he's going to Harry in that moment and he gets over the ball and someone just blows cigar smoke all over him like all over him I want to wonder if this shows up in the replay. I don't know if it would be on the masters.com or, but if it would be on CBS, like just literally a cloud of cigar smoke went right over me, didn't back off and went ahead and hit the shot and just took care of business and wanted. It was, uh, it was all we, we had no idea where that shot went. Really? For like 90 seconds. It was like CBS didn't have any spotters out there. Yeah, didn't know if it was like hit a tree. Didn't know if it was in the crowd. Didn't know if it was
Starting point is 00:08:11 on the green. Didn't that? I mean, yeah, hard one to to pick up for those guys, I guess. But it took, it took, yeah, good 60 seconds before we're like, oh, I guess it's in the bunker. Even Nance to, like, I mean, Nancy, you know, is watching it on a screen too. He's, he's like, well, Rory's, he's walking towards that bunker. I think it must, I think it must be in there. You didn't know where the second shot went? No. Oh my God. No idea. And like Cam, Cam had hit. And then we didn't know where Cam's second shot went either. And it was,
Starting point is 00:08:39 yeah it was like completely like Trevor and Trevor and Jim were just guessing for a good 45 seconds. Yeah. It's tough. It's funny on the energy front. I said this last night too, but the it's a little bit of a like Rory ran a four minute mile last year. And then it's like, man, and then two, you know, two weeks later like he did it again. It's like, oh, well, yeah. I mean, of course.
Starting point is 00:09:02 You know, it's just hard to, like you said, it was 100 out of 10 last year. So I almost kind of don't know what to do with my with my hands. right now a little bit, but it was, it was still thrilling, man. He did it, he did it his way. That's a, that cuts both ways. You know, he did it with like prodigious drives off the tea today. He did it with some very brain dead small moments, but, you know, in the, in the, like, biggest moments of the day, T.C., I mean, like 12. 12 was kind of where he stepped up and won the tournament.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Yeah, 12 was, I mean, that was, that was it, like Rose. blown it, like, as most guys did this week, blew it long left, which I think that thing should be trampolining into the azaleas if you miss, like, if you don't even hit the green there and you just fly it all the way over the green, like it should be like a Mario cart, kind of, you hit this and you were going 30 yards into the azaleas kind of thing, because you bailed out and you didn't hit the shot. Kind of, I think Rory. Homa Memorial trampoline, right?
Starting point is 00:10:05 Like that would have, like, what happened to those shots? Where was this? I thought this was the firm year. They've taken all the McKenzie out of this course. I mean, yeah, there's no more trampolines out there. It's, yeah. Believe me, the Disney consultants have come in. But no, like Rory steps up and then to cash it and make the pot.
Starting point is 00:10:24 That was, that was it, man. That was the statement. And then kind of exercises his demons there on 13. And that was such a hard up and down. I don't know what that looked like. We had just watched how it's on. we can get there, how tongue we put it into the water from back there and how, how gentle of a shot that was, Cam almost went in the water from back there. But that was a slippery
Starting point is 00:10:47 should we go back to Roar, like, should we just go back through Rory's day or because I, because I feel like, I feel like the, the third shot into 15. I was thinking, holy shit, this thing's going to spin back into the water. And then I realized, all right, you didn't hit it very well. And it didn't have a lot of spin on it. And it just kind of, you know, rolled out on the green there. But, But like going back into the day, it was just such an interesting progression. Those first, I'd say four or five holes. Yeah, I think zooming out just for a sec to look at the leaderboard. Rory obviously finished at 12 under.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Scotty Schephler won back at 11. And then you had what a four-way tie at 10? Teryl Hatton, Russell Henley, Justin Rose and Cam Young, all finishing at 10 under. We're going to let we'll get into the Rory micro here in a second. But T.C., who's, who bottled it, man? Who's was it to win? Team Rose. I mean, just point blank.
Starting point is 00:11:42 The guy shot 38 on the back nine today, and he was leading the golf tournament. You know, the shot on 11, I felt like if you're going to bail out right, take a club less, because I feel like he was pushing it up there and he just bailed out at the last second. Obviously, makes the bogey on 12,
Starting point is 00:12:03 but then misses the pot on 13. And it just, it felt like too little too late after, after 13, I think. And, and then obviously the shocking, shocking missed putt on 17 there, but ended up not mattering, but you got to wonder, all right, if he puts more pressure on Rory down the stretch there, I just, I feel like nobody rose to the challenge today, including, like, Rose did for a minute and didn't, didn't have like the firepower to withstand it for the last six, seven, eight holes. But like it's one of those things with the masters to where you go back to, go back to Roe or to to Rose not birdying 15 on Saturday. Yeah. And, you know, all these
Starting point is 00:12:46 putts that he missed on Saturday. And you're like, man, like he shouldn't have been three back going into the day. I don't, I don't put it all on today. Scotty playing the 13th hole and one over. Scotty not making a birdie on 15. Like all of those things are just like. Scottie's putt not dropping on 17. Yeah. Yeah. Best putt I watched all day. But you're right. But you're right. Right, with like, that's one of the things that I think makes Augustus so particular and so special is like you can remember all of those shots at the end of the week because you know all the holes so well. You know all the places where you do have to make a move. It's, I don't know. Following the Data Golf Live blog, I shot this out last night too, but they do a great job updating like throughout the day.
Starting point is 00:13:23 And as soon as Justin Rose made the turn, he made the turn at 12 under and they had they were spot on it. They said, you know, like he does not have to do as much as it seems like he has. has to do on this back nine. If he goes and shoots one under, he's going to have a really, really, really good chance. And sure enough,
Starting point is 00:13:41 that would have won't. That would have won it out right. Five, seven, eight and nine. But that, yeah, I picked him up. So we,
Starting point is 00:13:48 I was walking around with Porter today, and it's, the front nine stuff. We picked him up into eight and nine. So we watched him, we went all the way up eight, which is a tough haul. And then came back on nine.
Starting point is 00:13:56 We were like left of nine, had an awesome view of him making this put. And he makes this put. And like the two dudes in front of me who were not British at all, just start like, shoving each other, pushing of like, let's go. I did, would not, the, the pro Justin Rose vibe on the ground was overwhelming, everywhere you went.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Makes that put to shoot 32 on the front. I stopped kind of by the clubhouse, uh, grabbed a water. And I heard this like waitress just say like, oh my gosh, I want Justin Rose to win so bad. I told him last year. He was my favorite. It stopped him in his tracks. He's like, I'm your favorite player. Uh, like there was just so much momentum going on there.
Starting point is 00:14:31 We were, we hustle back out there. And then it's like, what we talked about? about last night though like those shots around aiming corner when you've got the lead and it's like okay it's not you know it's kind of an opportunity but it's kind of like don't screw it up right now gets a little bit different gets a little bit more difficult and you know you're in that spot on 11 you don't know what you need like he just was never going to miss left that led to a bogey he he spent a lot time back there they had the blowers out on 12 green this group ahead was done and like he and foote were like waving at the at the blower's super like stop stop blowing stop blowing uh it almost
Starting point is 00:15:03 chipped it in the bunker there but it it and the three putt on 13 was the one that i mean he had such a good shot into 13 i can't tell you how far off the tracer was it looked like it was right of the creek oh i was like i was like all right i think this could land right of that green and we can get up and down from there for birdie like that was and then it lands right by the pin what it was such a good shot that was a fantastic i mean he must have had an amazing drive too he was about as far left as you could have possibly been just like a rope hook driver it was it was rad i thought it was too far left yeah anything but i will say you said no one stepped up you got to i mean rory stumbled out of the gates it was ugly and then like four birdies in how many holes was it he birdies seven eight 12 and
Starting point is 00:15:48 three five yeah four out of seven holes there oh rory yeah from the from the from the from the you know from the back of the pack when uh we knew he had to vomit a little bit on himself and then kind of you know do the puke and rally thing to get uh get get back through it. It was, I don't know, we don't have to do core stuff right now, but it felt tougher out there today, like, definitely than it did yesterday. It just felt like there wasn't the roars, there wasn't
Starting point is 00:16:12 the kind of, you know, you know, cars passing each other. There's no DRS today going on. It just, it kind of just, it was a lot more muted vibe on a Sunday than I would have expected, but it just, everyone kind of going away on the back nine made
Starting point is 00:16:28 sense because you just, you know, watch one group come through and you're just, man, it was just, it was lot tougher out there today. It was almost a shot and a half harder today than yesterday. It seemed like there was more win, Sali. There was wind, but there was not a lot. Like on Rory's shot on six. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Back pin, downwind. Downhill. It seemed like he took extra club and took something off of it. And then that's going to yield less spin too. And I was like, all right, cool. Like that has no chance of stopping back there. That was, Trevor had a great call on that one too, where he kind of stepped up right away, Roy airmailed that green on six and he's like, dude, I don't think he said, dude,
Starting point is 00:17:04 but he said, he's like that, that's exactly the shot he was trying to hit. Wind just died. You're trying, like you said, that's things, not ripping down wind, but it's hitting enough down wind. You got to fly that false front, but the pins on the back. You're trying to land it in this little zone and let it trickle out. It's so hard. If that flies another, you know, five paces beyond, you're just in the, you're moving
Starting point is 00:17:25 folding chairs out of the way, but going back, sorry. What was the vibe, like real quick? like, Sally, what was the viable? After four, after the double. I mean, that was, that was the spot where it was like, oh, six, six. It's like, holy shit, we have a golf tournament. That was, that was the, the thrill or the horror of the day right there.
Starting point is 00:17:45 When he pulled the shot left on four left of the bunker, there was like, and they were, he and Cammer both leaving the T-box. And there was like a crowd boost, like, let's go, Cam, let's go. Like, Roy looks vulnerable here. Like, Cam, I was surprised at the energy of like, you know he just opened the door here let's go and there was a you know the big groan goes up when he makes the double and cam made bogey on that hole too right uh that right yeah he bogey no he no he parted for him sorry but rory made double there and yeah yeah cam hit the front of the green and then
Starting point is 00:18:16 and then two-potted um and that's when we started picking up rose when rose started going and it felt like it was going to be all you needed was a little crack in that final group and it felt like uh the opening was going to come come from there and so that's it's where that was the time during the day like watching it on TV where we felt I think we were just a little bit confused as like who was in it and who wasn't in it because
Starting point is 00:18:38 like they had totally lost track of the pre- where like we just didn't like Schaffler was doing stuff but they had like they were eight to ten minutes late on a lot of the stuff that he was doing if they were showing it at all meanwhile we're getting Brian
Starting point is 00:18:55 Harmon on 16 and it was weird A lot of Hedekhi. Yeah, it was a lot of, it wasn't great. Back to Rory. Sorry, I sidetracked us way off the rails there. But I think like you said, Sali, it was, it felt probably more, much wobblier than it actually was. You know, in that, like, I think there's still a little bit of residual, holy shitty,
Starting point is 00:19:17 had a six shot lead after Friday. How is anybody else even close sort of situation going on? But at the same time, like, like we said, I mean, that mistake, quote unquote, on six when he hit it over the green, but he didn't make another bogey after that until 18 when he had one in his back pocket to play with. You know, the shot on seven, like we got on seven was yeah, yeah, right? And it was especially juxtaposed with Cam where it's like that's such a weird uncomfortable, intimidating sort of shot, but a comfy pin and cam shot there was just, I mean, he had a perfect angle from that left side of the fairway. And I mean, he had to miss his spot by
Starting point is 00:19:55 10 yards there with a wedge. I mean, that was brutal. You know, leaves it in that front bunker. And then Rory kind of just takes care of business, man. He makes that pot. He birdies eight. Comfy on 9 and 10. Comfy on like 11 was a little tiny bit of a. Oh, is he playing, is he playing super tentative?
Starting point is 00:20:14 You know, that that one, I don't know if there was a wind switch or what, but very, very, very safe. He did. It was, the pin was kind of, what is that? Like middle left. Middle left. back left sort of thing. And that one looked a little like, okay, I'm just going to play it safe.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I remember what I did yesterday. He kind of hit that front right corner and left himself a mile and a half lag put that he left short, but buried that, stepped up on 12. We talked about that shot already. I mean, shot of the tournament.
Starting point is 00:20:43 13, arguably just as good. 350-yard drive that gets past the trees, leaves them in eight iron into that green. I mean, that was an absolute joke. And then, I mean, from there, it's, it's pretty cozy, right? Other than the putt on 16, you know, 16, he sails the flag and he's in that kind of downslope back there and pulls putter, which he did a lot today. Which I don't know. I'd have to think about it.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Yeah. I don't know if that's like a Rory, if I've seen him do that a ton in the past, but it wasn't an interesting device. I think that's more just a commentary on the agronomy out there. Like, it's just been hot. Yeah. The collars were definitely dying off, and they were brown, brown, brown, and just a lot more uncertainty at the Bermuda coming through there. And it was it was firmer underneath that than it usually has been in the past. And it was just kind of, it was kind of easy to put through.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Usually it's always been, it has felt hairier around the greens to the point where you don't want to have to hit a putt that hard and have it enter the green at the speed. It's uncontrollable. But there was a lot more putting this week than I've ever seen that it goes. The other shot I would want to shout out from his round because I thought, it was fucking rad. Is that low bullet that he hits on 17 was that we were talking about it in Slack. I'm like, that's the shot he was hitting at RIV. That's the shot he was hitting on the West Coast swing of like in some spots.
Starting point is 00:22:03 We're just like, why are you hitting that right now, man? Test kitchen. Yeah, and he steps up and he teased it low and he hits a bullet into 17 Fairway and, you know, misses maybe not in like the easiest spot in the world, but the right spot, you know, or he's chipping uphill and obviously a spot that he is pretty cozy with this week with the the chip in birdie on on Friday and just knocks it up to a foot and a half or whatever and it has two to play with coming into coming into 18 but was there any tc was there any like uh i know you know you're you're not an anti rory guy but you're you're rooting for rose you're rooting
Starting point is 00:22:38 for scottie you're rooting for action action was there any like off the face on 18 was it like ballgame or do you think it was you think it was over uh even going back to 17 like I think other years that you would think, all right, like that's, that's on the other side of that little knob, short ride of 17. And I just didn't feel like there was enough fire in the greens for him not to get that within a three foot circle putting it down there. Whereas I felt like, all right, in the past, all right, they don't know if they can even put it from down there. And then if they're chipping it, they're hitting on the down slope. And then he's trying to get it within seven or eight feet. And then, yeah, on 18, yeah, it was truly a so bad. It was good kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:23:20 I mean, like, I know that feeling of just sliding across the club face there and you feel totally helpless. But I think the only real chance was like if it was like directly behind a tree. And it seems like all the bad trees are over on the left on 18, not on the right. Right. It could have been a whole hell worse than it was. You know, it, I guess I'm trying to picture the way it would have. It would have to be like unplayable and then you're taking a drop in the trees and then punching out and then you're really risky. There was 95 plus percent of opportunities.
Starting point is 00:23:58 He was at least going to get it out in the fairway, be able to hit it on the green and make like, you know, a bogey, a pretty easy bogey. But I might be in that shot that is on the screen there. I thought, Sally, I thought for a second he had a Friday egg in the bunker up by the green. I was like, oh, shit, this is a Friday. Like, can you get that out or can he get it up? but then you're like, all right, he can play it off the slope here. You know what went through my head T.C. was, man, I wish, I bet he stayed in there wishing I had a six iron length
Starting point is 00:24:26 sand wedge to hit right now on this. Exactly. That would, now that would make things really easy. Let's talk Cam Young a little bit. Came in to the day. Tide, obviously, with Rory. Drives in the bunker on one, comfy two putt par. He was way back on two.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I don't know if that was a shot that just kind of. It didn't fit his eye or what, but he had like 326 into two. Again, probably how would that set up? Into the wind, I guess, a little bit. Anyways, like in off the left, right? Yeah, it just, anyways, we don't have to do the whole, the whole play-by-play, massive par save on five after. The pitch shot he hit on two.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Like, I thought he was going to win the Masters after that clear. I was like, oh, if that would have fallen in the bunker, you're just not winning. And if that clears and you get up and down for birdie, it might be your day. He did have another, you know, we kept making fun of Cody for the shot that he hit at Costa de Campo where he hooked one into the trees and it bounced back into the middle of Fairway. Cam Young, obviously Cody's guy. He just kept hitting that shot this week.
Starting point is 00:25:33 He had one on three, blew it way right into the trees, bounces back in the middle of the fairway again. Not able to make Bertie there today. And then like I said, on five, he keeps it alive. It just looks like the guy. and then bogey's six and seven three putt on six and then that wedge
Starting point is 00:25:51 that we mentioned on seven and then you know just kind of couldn't get it going on the on the second line or DJ he had like one of the coolest shots of the tournament on it
Starting point is 00:26:00 did you see this one saw I have not no oh my gosh so he drives it right now he drives it on the left like kind of up the left side where you're a little bit blocked out by that that dog leg angle has to hit this big rope three wood
Starting point is 00:26:15 that he just nukes up there past pin high. I mean, just a space shuttle sort of three wood up there. And then the third shot, he just plays like a, you know, like he's playing at Ely or something. I mean, just like this awesome bump off that back, back hill up off the slope, rolls it back down to like four feet, makes birdie to the point where the the broadcasters were kind of like, yeah, did he like, did he do that? Like, did he do that purpose?
Starting point is 00:26:45 And they're like, oh, yeah, he did. It was just it was great super, super creative. Brill, T.C. Absolutely. That was the kind of stuff that gets me going about golf. Yeah. Well,
Starting point is 00:26:56 that's fun. It was. It's sweet. It's stuff, man. Eight's so, there's so much creative shit going on. Howtong Lee almost killed us over there.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I'm sitting there with Scottie's pulled it left. Yeah, he's pulled it left and we're kind of waiting to watch him punch out. And Halton gets it over there. I mean, I'm from here to the screen between me and Porter and the ball took one bounce and flew directly in between us. I've never been that close to getting hit by a golf ball.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I mean, how Tongley finished T-38? Oh, my God. Scottie almost won. He just like walk us through some of that. He went, he went, he went 6, 10, 3 on 12, 13, 14. How many shots did he cost Scotty today? He, oh, God. So, yeah, he dumped in the water twice on 12.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And then we dropped him for a second. and we came back to pick him up on 13 and I just get up there and he's standing up in the trees up left of the of the creek and he hit his second shot across the of the tributary to Ray's Creek and is like trying to figure out what to do up there
Starting point is 00:28:01 trying to figure out what to do. Can I pause you, Sally? Because what happens next? We were looking all day. We're like, what's going to be our Yeti coldest moment of the day? It's everything that happens going forward here. It's the shot. It's the fact that Scotty had to play with him. It's the it's it's everything that's about to about to go on so a big shout to our friends at yeti summer's
Starting point is 00:28:20 coming stock up on everything that you need drinkware hard coolers soft coolers bags chairs you name it yety has you covered with everything you need strong enough for the toughest situations and plenty of customizable options check them out at yeddi dot com solie what was our yetty coldest moment of the day here i'm sorry d'es we can start that over but he hits his second shot left of the creek for some reason there's no video available for that shot as I'm looking at it right now. I saw it earlier. It's great. He's head in the hands, fully demonstrative on like,
Starting point is 00:28:53 I can't believe that. That's over on the dark web. Yeah, yeah, it's great. So he goes up there. He takes forever to do this. And he's just, I mean, the image of him is up there is hilarious. And he tries to play it out of there and barely moves it. It moves like 20 feet, maybe 30 feet, goes down the hill a little bit and gets down into a spot where he does, he really doesn't like it. and I believe this is what happened.
Starting point is 00:29:14 From what I could tell from way back in the stance, he just goes over and picks up his ball, as in like, oh, well, now I'm going to go outside the hazard and take a drop. And Stephen Cox, the rules officials there. And I don't,
Starting point is 00:29:24 I don't know, I don't know exactly what happened there, but I think they concluded that he wasn't in the red line or in the hazard, or he didn't like what it was actually going to happen. He went back and dropped at a foot behind. So he goes back, he ends up dropping it near where he picked
Starting point is 00:29:41 it up. I guess he took it unplayable there. Moved to the club, pitches it out, and hits an awesome shot from there, and gets it up onto the fringe, puts it into the water from the fringe, has to replay from the same spot, it barely gets it on the green and has like a surrender cobra moment. And then
Starting point is 00:29:57 you know, misses the put for nine and ends up making 10. Did do a full like how tall, like two fists in the air as he hold it to a to an applause as he walked up. And then he 30 14. So sick. I'm not exaggerating when I say kind of killed the momentum of the entire tournament because everything longed-jimmed find it.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Scotty had to wait six, seven, eight minutes in there in the fairway. Like, it took forever. Porter and I went up into the stands, found Neil and your dad and your uncle up in the stands. I forgot my dad next to him. We sat there for like five minutes and never saw. We were like, okay, well, we got to keep moving. We never even saw a shot the whole time we sat next to them because this took how tall and leave that long. It was, it was disastrous. They said, I forget if it was Dottie or Andrew Catalan said Scottie walked up to the green he had to hit that third shot because he had to lay up
Starting point is 00:30:49 we'll talk about when we get to some stuff I'm 13 but there was cool stuff Scotty was blocked out couldn't get to the green couldn't have the momentous decision so he had to lay up and they said he walked up to the green walked back to his ball
Starting point is 00:31:05 walked up to the green again walked back to his ball again all while if this was going on I'm surprised he didn't play but you didn't know what was going on I mean the whole time how I'm just gesticulating the whole time just all these mannerisms
Starting point is 00:31:20 but you don't know what he's saying you can tell he's confused Stephen Cox is trying to yell across the creek I think about Cox over there with him too Cox he's like just fucking get on with it me they had a good they did have a good moment
Starting point is 00:31:33 like how talk's laughing as they pull out on 18 and Scotty was laughing it was good stuff but guys i think i think we're at the the point in the proceedings you know i i see a couple lefties coming up i know our guys got reverse splits i think we go to the pen and we and we bring in big randy uh here randy uh how are you doing my man how was how was your master sunday i could have been better but we're doing good congrats to rory going back to back that's a
Starting point is 00:32:02 very historical thing six majors as you guys said uh i i throwing no shade at the guy well learned Well deserved, very momentous win. That's big of you. He also stopped Cam's round recap on the eighth hole. I don't think we need to talk about anything else. That's true. Yeah, I don't know. Well, we do have to talk nine because he hit it left in the trees on nine.
Starting point is 00:32:27 There was a moment where he's kind of punching out under the tree. And his catty Kyle kind of comes and stands behind him. And I don't know if they were doing like is my, well, that looks like they're just, he did it again. once Cam had the club in his hands. We didn't call it in. Yeah, I don't know if they were, if they're doing like, is my club going to hit the tree sort of thing or what they were doing? But Cam didn't retake his stance.
Starting point is 00:32:49 So that got, that even flagged my, my rules thing, which makes sense because it was apparently not, you know, a penalty. But the, I talked to him about it, though. Yeah, it sounded like they maybe spoke to him. I don't know what the, what the situation was, but it ultimately deep. They pulled it into the woods on 13, I guess, to discuss. with him allegedly.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Yeah, I thought for sure, it was like, all right, man, that sucks. Like, I want him to win this and I still called it in on him. You have to. You have to. DC, I think you said this about old thawble. This was six weeks ago when this tournament started. But you said, you know, when he knocked off a couple leaves in a practice swing, TC said, you know what, we have to, out of an abundance of caution, we have to stroke them.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I don't know if it's a penalty or not, but we got to air on the side of stroking these guys. and I think you stayed consistent by calling that one in. So thank you. The master's stayed consistent this week by not calling it. Anyway, I mean, can we put a bow on Cam's thing? He just pared in from 10 onward? He did. He did par in from 10 onward.
Starting point is 00:33:56 He hit a great shot at 12 as well. Couldn't get it to go. 13, couldn't get up and down from behind the green. 14, you know, kind of had, that was kind of the must make. It felt like the old can, for me honest, like pre, you know, pre last all can. Yeah, too much spin on that shot into 14. I think it was a wedge maybe and it really checked up. He didn't get that forward release and then the little funnel down to the pin.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Yeah, that one ended up like 15, 20 feet short, kind of must make sort of moment. And he just kind of gasses it through the break. And that sort of felt like all the wind was, wind was out of the sails there. He did hit a great shot. Big ass drive on 15. He did a great shot. I don't know how you hold that 15th green. I don't know how much better of a shot he could have hit there
Starting point is 00:34:45 and it's still bounded long. And he thought he hit a good chip on 15 and it hits something. Or he was just like it ended up kicking right and he's gesturing as if it hit something and kicked it way offline and then to miss the put was. It seemed like watching 15. It seemed like he landed it. I mean, how thin the margins are there, especially on a green like 15.
Starting point is 00:35:04 But like he probably landed at three pages. is past where he needed to for it to stop. Like he landed it pretty close to that upper level when it's like it's got to land more into the bank and then, you know, kill the speed. Which kind of just makes Scotty shot even more badass that he hit from those right trees through the, through the stuff and holding that green and making a birdie. It's just, I mean, it's like the best birdie of the week. Probably.
Starting point is 00:35:30 That was, that was insane. Randy, what did you see your favorite player today, runner up at the Masters? I truthfully ran out of holes. This tournament, I know we joked and it was a lot closer than I think a lot of us thought on Friday night as we were sitting here. But in hindsight, this tournament was decided on Friday. And I was going through the first part of the show. I was looking up the par five performances for Rory and Scotty this week. Rory played the par fives.
Starting point is 00:36:03 cumulatively at 10 under par this week. Scotty was five under par. But if you look at the two par fives on the second nine, excuse me, almost at the back nine. Rory was six under par on 13 and 15 throughout the week. And Scottie played those two holes one over par. And I just think this is, I think as time goes on,
Starting point is 00:36:25 Scotty's going to be kicking himself that he's not putting on the green jacket this year. He made five bogeys all week. week, you know, famously did not make a boge this weekend, the first person to do that at least since 1942, maybe in the history of the tournament. There's no way to know. Yeah. To play the weekend, 11 under and not win is just, it's going to hurt.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I think this one's going to hurt, Scotty. And those two approach shots Friday, right, where he, where he wiped the long iron into the creek on 13 and then hit it long into the water on 15. like that's i i think he's got to look at those two shots and just he's going to wonder what could have been he also if he wins this too like he's he's going into ronimk with like oh yeah like i'm still the fucking dude yeah and i'm back like i'm back i didn't go anywhere and the next three majors set up wonderfully for me i've been recharging these last four months it's these ties rory for major ties rory and brooks for current major totals has
Starting point is 00:37:33 three green jackets, like 74 on Friday. I mean, he has to just be beside himself, honestly. I mean, it, but it's a testament to him, like, truly being the best player in the world still. I mean, not even his best stuff. Still felt like the weekend could have been better. And he just looked like an unstoppable robotic force. Like yesterday, because of 13 and 15, right?
Starting point is 00:37:57 Like yesterday's round could have been a couple shots better, you think. Today's round could have been a shot better. It's just if you don't take advantage of those two par fives, which he did not all week. Yeah. It's just hard. He only had four birdies on the back the whole weekend. That's crazy. And I feel like, I feel like, I think that's the lasting memory for me is it feel like it feels like we saw great champions battling without their A games, if that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:38:27 because I think Rory didn't have his A game from start to finish. And I think if anything, I think I'm probably a little bit more impressed with Rory in hindsight because like especially taking into account the second and third rounds of Rory's hitting a lot of the wedge shots that we didn't think he could hit three, four years ago. But, you know, Scott is like Scottie didn't have his A game. Rose couldn't put this week for the most part. Like he missed more puds than I've ever seen him miss. It just, it just felt like a bunch of flawed, you know, like flawed champions because of just,
Starting point is 00:39:06 they just weren't on their game. And it was kind of everybody's big game. And then, but that allowed some of these other guys into the kind of into the mix, the Henley, you know, the, like, we'll talk about Burns, but like it just felt like there was, there was a spoiler to be had maybe. like a will it in there and it just didn't, it didn't materialize, right? I think you're totally right on Rory.
Starting point is 00:39:32 I know we've kind of been on the Rory freeway and taking a couple of detours here. But going back to what we were saying kind of yesterday is, you know, we've wanted him to be this guy for a really, really long time. And I want to make sure that we're recognizing that he, that's what he did.
Starting point is 00:39:50 You know, the gritty grinder. The gritty guy who wins when he doesn't have his best stuff. Also, the guy who does. put his foot down and blow the, you know, field away when he does have his best stuff. It's almost like we saw a bunch of different Rories today or like in this same week,
Starting point is 00:40:05 which is really cool. And I think the other thing that kind of touches on what you're saying there, TC, is like, I'm not saying it's exactly the same thing, but you do have, like we started the show by saying these guys have won four of the last five. There is a bit of a tiger fill, maybe not macro, but at Augusta sort of thing going on. And you do need to have, like I think going to
Starting point is 00:40:26 next year, not only is it, oh, Rory's trying for three in a row. It's also like Rory versus Scotty, I think. It's both of these guys have two who's going to be the first to three, which is awesome. And I think like a really thrilling way to watch this tournament for the next 10 years. It's also sick that Rory has a runner up to Scotty in 2020. And now Scottie's got a runner up to Rory this year as well. I think on top of that, guys, like I think it's setting up for, I think Roy's got a really interesting decision coming up from the next.
Starting point is 00:40:56 a couple of years as far as like do I want to play do I need to play regular competitive golf to be in shape for these things or can I you know can I play 12 events a year in in manage my energy and show up when I went and where I want to show up and still be good you know what's going to be so fascinating about that is I know like I don't want to get caught into talking about Rory like he's 56 years old. Like he's he's still young. But he's he's longer than he's ever been. He's pot like he has so much.
Starting point is 00:41:31 He's playing like a dominant version of even the young person's version of golf right now. And so I just feel like we're still a ways away from, you know, Brando was talking about that on live from right afterwards. Like we're still a ways away from when that physicality kind of tips and he has to figure out like, ooh, what do I need to do to be wily? And he's just in this great Goldilocks zone right now. Now I feel like where he has all the experience and all the tools to be, you know, just dominant. It's, it's great.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I was hesitant to, like, I just wasn't buying the he's freed up thing. Now I buy it. Now, like, no, after this one in particular is like now, what, what reason would you ever have to not believe in yourself and to believe that you could win the U.S. Open again, that you could win the Open again, that you could win the PJ at Aronimo, very easily. Like, you should not have to convince. And I guess I was a little suspect on what the motivation would continue to be after completing the career grand slam and like the clear release that came from him of all the pressure that was on that. How do you have a secondary goal after that one, which is so huge? And now to get this one, I'm a much stronger believer in like eight or nine for Rory than I was at the start of this week. That's for sure.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Solly, I think that's the other thing. like with the if you think about like what's the biggest risk for rory it's probably it's either i don't think he's going to have a bad injury he's got a really long swing and those tend to age pretty well it's him burning himself out playing 22 times a year 24 times a year and i think like like i really respect rory for you know i've been critical of him in the past for like not doing the right stuff like after pinehurst and i think rory did a lot of the right stuff post winning the masters like going going going to play the fucking australian open we're going to india or going back to ireland and bringing the green jacket back there that's cool like he was an
Starting point is 00:43:24 ambassador and a steward of the game and i think that's really really really important and i feel like that filled up the tank for him a little bit and i feel like he sees all right you know what this is how much effort and energy i put into winning this tournament um and maybe the same is true for the u.s open open championship maybe less so for the pg hush championship but I think this has to tell him hey I can put this much effort in and get this much reward out of it why would I go show up at every signature of it every week on the pGA tour this is it's it's fascinating we don't have to do this whole four-hour conversation tonight but like what is what is that everything you just said how does that smash together with well how does
Starting point is 00:44:08 that smash together with oh by the way we're trying to rework the entire pj tour and now it's a for-profit equity thing for the players and yada yada yada i just think there's like i think he's got a lot of super interesting decisions to make on how he wants to spend his time well i think to that point and this is where you can get if you if you have a negative opinion of rory this is the part where you roll your eyes at and get really upset and if you you know it maybe this doesn't need to be said but like what what i'm super happy for for him is i genuinely think why i've been such a big rory kind of supporter over the last several years take some of the pine her stuff up take some of the media stuff out from last year. Ignore that.
Starting point is 00:44:45 He, what he did for what I would consider to be the betterment of the game of golf, did he make himself extremely wealthy in the process? Yes, you can have a very cynical viewpoint. But I think Roy was super motivated to save the PGA tour to keep it together when it was in doubt. It's easy to look back now and kind of laugh at it being, it was in doubt for quite some time. And his willingness to put himself on the line and his career on the line, he sacrificed a lot of goodwill with a lot of people, some of the, some of which are his peers out on the PGA tour and a lot of time,
Starting point is 00:45:18 a lot of focus, a lot of distractions when he's trying to get off a 10 year major Schneide, like the fact that he, the things have worked out as well as they have for the PGA tour and now he gets this reward is just, I feel like it's a massive, massive, you know, win, whatever the word might be for one of the, one of the good guys in golfed it. Like when, when the chips were down when like, when it was, it was everyone, when the rats were fleeing the ship, like he stood for. something and he didn't you know you didn't say everything that everybody wanted to hear a lot of people don't like what he did and kind of centralizing things among the top players but i think it came
Starting point is 00:45:54 from a really good place and that part like is a is a happy and the story's not over but it's a happy second half of kind of his career part of the story sally i couldn't agree more with that like i think that anybody that says like oh rory's a hypocrite or whatever like i think Rory's earned the right to say, you know what, like, I don't need to fucking care about the PGA tour. Like, I've, I, I, I stuck my neck out. Jay Monaghan left me out to dry several times on several things. And you know what? Like, I'm going for the betterment of golf now, like, around the world.
Starting point is 00:46:30 And I think that, like, hopefully I, I think Rory throws his weight more behind the DP World Tour. No, anything. I think that would be the best thing you could do for. for the game at large. It was a good day for Rory McElroy. Guys, if you want to make it a good day, I would recommend maybe going and picking up the all-new high-noon day pack.
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Starting point is 00:47:07 delicious flavors for a blue sky day. Visit high-noon. spirits.com to find a pack near you. High noon. Suns up, Randy. Randy, were you going to say something there? Sorry. That was going to say real quick. Like, Randy, what's your reaction to all that? Like, is that just us bluffing the guy or saying nothing matters? Or is that, like, is that salient? I guess which part specifically, that he can dictate a schedule that, you know, I guess just trying to be a global ambassador. Justify the means a little bit, right? Of like, hey, like, It was pretty uneven and winding road how we got here.
Starting point is 00:47:44 But I think Rory feels like the elder statesman of the game unequivocally after this. I think that's a good way to put it. I don't disagree with that. And, Sally, I don't disagree with what you said either about, you know, he did stick his neck out. And I think he burned a lot of goodwill with a lot of people by being as vocal and active as he was with the tour and the live stuff. So yeah, I think that's fair.
Starting point is 00:48:14 The one thing I was going to say is, you know, if he does really want to dial back the schedule, and I don't know if he does or not, I think coming here to Augusta for a lot of guys, right, you can make it work here more so. I guess I would caution against like, he can play 10, 12 events a year and show up and compete at like tough U.S. opens or even open championships. I don't necessarily think that's the way to go. but I think it works, you know, if you're going to do that anywhere, you can still show up and play well.
Starting point is 00:48:46 But the way the schedule works, though, too, like you can do that here and then take your momentum from Augusta and parlay that into at least the next two majors, you know, and then probably reset over in the UK. I don't get the sense he wants to take as much time off as maybe you're implying with this. I feel like I think he, I think he's competitive. I think he likes being out on tour. I think you can overdo it. But I think he's, I'd be surprised to be really doubted back.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I know his energy is focused on the majors the most. Like he's not going to spend a lot of mental energy fretting about like the truest, I think. I just think there's, yeah, I think there's a difference between playing or let's say into the future, right? Because roll up was saying, hey, we want to double the amount of signature events. I'm talking about more into 2027, 2028 of, hey, you know what? like this we're going to ask more of these guys moving forward. This is, I said we weren't going to have the four hour conversation on this stuff, but weird glowing brain thing is, uh, I, if I was him, I almost feel like he's got more
Starting point is 00:49:49 capital ever, more capital than ever to basically go and be like, make the fucking playoffs match play in some way. Because I don't like, the thing that's going to force him to play those is when it's like, dude, you're telling me I got to play this, that and the other thing to like have access to this $20 million eastlake thing. Just put me in a matchplay bracket. Let me go like, let me go win. Let me go beat these guys. You know, it's like that's just a weird tangent. But Dej, I don't think there's that much disagreement between him and Rollap on it's just the means to doing that. Rollup was like, oh yeah, like our competitive structure doesn't make any sense. Like it doesn't incentivize these guys to have to show up. We're going to fix that too.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Yeah. There were two things I failed to mention if you'll allow me about Rory. And I should have right when I came on the show. Extremely happy for the lads at Hollywood Golf Club, having gotten to visit Hollywood and meet some people there. And, you know, it just much more of an appreciation for the feeling in that clubhouse. And that was cool. And I absolutely do not think Rory wins this year without winning last year. I saw you, you mentioned how quickly he was playing.
Starting point is 00:50:58 He was decisive. I thought that was almost one of his greatest strengths was just like, here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to step up over it and let's get on with it. I thought this win is a direct byproduct of last year getting it done. Randy, I want to ask you something else. I mentioned this off the top. Six majors. Do you know who else has six majors? Well, I know one guy. Your beloved left-hander, Phil Mickelson. What does that mean? Still beloved or formerly beloved? It's a complicated relationship, T.C. I guess a two-part question. than for for Randall.
Starting point is 00:51:35 One, what's your current just status on Phil, of course, a long time Phil lover. And two, can you like a long time Phil respecter? And then two, just like, how does Rory getting to six
Starting point is 00:51:51 make you feel as a Phil respecter? I think it's fitting. I think Rory has always appeared to be that guy, right? I think he's a worthy six-time major champion. I think he belongs in the cohort that Mickelson is in. My relation, I did feel a little sadness that Phil wasn't here this week. I enjoy watching him hit, attempt to hit golf shots, especially at a place like this. So there was, there was a bit of that going in me.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Other than that, it's really sad on a personal level. Like, I don't watch him on live. I don't, I just don't really respect the guy he's. become and that's you know that sucks but no longer a fiel respecter um i so i was just doing a quick little and maybe to set the stage for a larger discussion because i'd love to hear your guys's thoughts on kind of phil and rory i mean the thing that sticks out first and foremost when you compare those two is phil won his first major when he was 33 almost 34 years old and rory right now is 36 and has six. So just the flow of their careers has been very different.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Solly, I'd be shocked, as you said, if Rory doesn't get at least one more to move ahead of Mickleson at one point. Phil is obviously 15 plus years further into his professional career. But I think we're the bit of difference for me right now, I think Rory has continued to do a good job of winning majors that he has a real chance to win. And I guess I say that looking at Rory has four major runner-up finishes. Phil has 12. I think Phil was in position a lot and famously did not get it done all the time. And I think that's the one thing, Rory,
Starting point is 00:53:52 I honestly except for the open championship that Cam Smith won is the one that really sticks out to me. I know he was close at Pinehurst as well. Maybe, yeah, you can throw that one in two as like the two real misses for Rory. But Phil, man, six majors and all you can think with Phil is like what could have been, right? Like easily a world where he gets to 10. Stenson out duels him in the open. All the U.S. Open misses. Like I think, I think, you know, if Rory gets stuck on six forever, I maybe lean towards like, if we're going to say like whose career is better, I just, I look at Phil's total body of work and granted he's had a lot more shots than Rory has, but those runner-ups are hard to ignore as well.
Starting point is 00:54:42 I'll say this, like Phil, Phil's broad golf accomplishments, like outside of majors and major wins, is the strongest between these three of Phil, Rory, and Brooks. obviously Phil has the years but he has won a ton of more PGA tour events than Rory has compared to the six of course. Rory's like PGA tour-ish and DEP World Tour record
Starting point is 00:55:07 coincides really well with the six majors and I think Phil's major record, major win record is a little light compared to his talent and overall accomplishment over a really long period of time. And someone like Brooks is like, oh my God, your major record blows away
Starting point is 00:55:22 every single other thing that you've ever done. Is that like a fair, like description of it all? Because, I mean, it would take a lot for Rory to catch Phil's PGA Tour win total. And I feel like 30 to Rory has 30, which is, that's a lot. I mean, D2 World Tour wins. He's got 30 and 45 total pro wins. It's kind of hard to suss it out because sometimes they're like WJC. Double counting.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Also with the Euro and. So Rory has 30, PGA Tour, Phil has 45. Okay. Are we beating around the question of like, dude, what's, what's we're going to get to? What are we sealing? Oh, you know what? Fascinating question. That's a great setup.
Starting point is 00:55:58 I don't just the guy to bring in for that question. He's a wait. He's waiting in the wings for a three-inning save. I think we've got to bring in Neil for that one. But I will, TZ, I'll start with you. Where do you think he ends up? That's a good question. I mean, so we're at six now?
Starting point is 00:56:16 We're at six. Six at age 36, which makes me think the over-under probably six and a half. It's weird. Like I felt, I don't know, until, until, like, this week didn't make me feel like, man, these are harder than ever to win because nobody's like went out and got it. Whereas a lot of these have felt like, holy shit. There's 20 dudes where they're two or three before. But yeah, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I think with Rory, I think the best comp career wise, like I go back to Ernie L's and you think about what if with Ernie L's. And you won four majors, you won like 20, 20 PGA tour events. And Rory's like, all right, he's got him in the rearview mirror. I think Rory probably wins nine. I mean, I just, I can't see like going back to the way that the swing is going to age and the way that he takes care of himself and the way that things, I mean, look at Rose. Right. I was, you guys, 45. And I don't know if there's the same hunger there because Rory accomplished so many things at a young age.
Starting point is 00:57:19 However, like, I could see Rory taking a, you know, taking a couple of years easy. and then being like, you know what, fuck this. I'm going to get back in the mix and I want to stick my nose back into this thing and I'm going to work harder than ever, like doing little sprints, you know, a little 18-month sprints. I'm very curious that that happens.
Starting point is 00:57:37 I don't know, obviously, I don't know what he'll end up doing. I just know that Rose has been such a psychopath about... Yeah, like... ...crowing these moments. I'm going to treat my body like a temple. I'm going to travel around with a fucking recovery RV. I'm going to do all of these things just because I want today,
Starting point is 00:57:57 just because I want this moment, which is where I'm like, he's probably, he might be in the purge room with Bobby. He might want it too much. It's a double-edged floor. And the point is I don't know if Rory's going to do that. I don't,
Starting point is 00:58:08 I don't know. Well, I think, like, following back to the, going back to Roy's approach to this master's, it feels like Rory's recovery room is hopping on the,
Starting point is 00:58:18 on the G650 and going back and sleeping in his, and sleeping in his own bed for three weeks straight and just prepping like crazy and having a singular focus, you know? I think that's where I go back to like the physicality stuff. It's like I think now as that windows open, 100% agree. And then I think we have these two kind of tectonic plates that are going to smash together in a really interesting way of
Starting point is 00:58:43 once the physical gifts start to diminish just a little bit, he still has all of that experience that we saw this week when he had his B minus game on some spots and still went out and won a major championship. That's fascinating to me. And for the, you know, as a Rory fan, I'm like, I hope he plays a lot during that stretch because I think that could get really super interesting.
Starting point is 00:59:05 A lot like we didn't see it, you know, all the time with Tiger because of gestures widely at many, many reasons. But there were times when he, you know, didn't have his stuff and he would, he would have to just lean on whiliness and do. all of that stuff. But I just, I would love to see that for Rory. And I just don't know when those two things kind of are going to hit each other, you know?
Starting point is 00:59:29 Let's bring our guys in here because I think that I also think this loss is going to piss Scotty off. Like to no end. Like, man, that was right there for the taking. And I could almost see Rory depriving Scotty of like, no, you're not going to, you're not going to be able to this week. I'm not going to show up.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I'll be down on Australia if you want to come down and hang out or I'll I'll be over in Dubai, but we were always played, what, three or four PGA tour events this year? Yeah, some of those injury, right? Yeah, back stuff going on. But Neil, welcome to the show, my man. How are you? Gentlemen, turn it up.
Starting point is 01:00:04 We want a little action in here. Let's go, baby. Perfect timing. Some good stuff on this from the press conference. What a world being in the post-round presser. You ask a question? I was like, man, I'm in the men's grill here. This is, you know, I felt like.
Starting point is 01:00:19 You raise your hand? I did. I got a little nod, but, We ran out of time, Randy. I didn't raise it early enough. I didn't. So I'm still. Schuster.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I called your name, right? Yeah, exactly. I was, it wasn't, it wasn't, spiel. Hold on. What were you going to ask?
Starting point is 01:00:33 I was going to ask about the shot in the 16. Airmail in the green there. Just what Bones has said about. From a personal. I call that as a carrito. I don't know if you have a term for that. Well, just curious if that was a wind issue or because it looked like he liked it in the air.
Starting point is 01:00:48 And that's, that was a tough spot back there. I mean, awesome up and down. but so in the presser guys he he wasn't it awesome can they hold on i'm so fucking sick and tired of us talking about like these are awesome up and downs on 16 when clearly you just find the high point of the hill you hit it up there and it rolls right to the cup like i've seen it too many years maybe it's not that easy randy that's fair no i thought it was going to be a tough extraordinary i'm like get out of here
Starting point is 01:01:16 it was it was a it was like the last no well not after the big right miss on 18 jesus guys That was what a, what a swing that one was. Holy Shartsky. Neil, hold on, hold on, real quick. Before we get any farther, hold up, before we get any farther. Did you have the fucking candy bar or not? Fridge, it's melted in my pocket. It's like fudge right now.
Starting point is 01:01:37 So I put in the fridge. We're going to do it at the end. Now, I went three, three separate concession stands. All of them said, they've been sold out since 11 a.m. Solly saw him in the bleachers on 14 randomly, hands me a candy bar from a fan. guy had it on ice for your boy the guy literally a fan he was either from Australia or New Zealand
Starting point is 01:01:56 I couldn't tell what he said had it on ice handed it to me and said it for me to track kneel down so we do have a kid we do have a kid we do have one I don't know if it's any good it's probably melted in and we'll get it done though we're gonna get that whoever that fan is
Starting point is 01:02:10 that's being an ambassador for the game that's big that's big I want to say all right we got a couple a couple lines in the water here Randy first of all I stand with you on 16. There were two bogeys at 16 today. There are two boogies.
Starting point is 01:02:25 And that's, Randy, that's fair. But it felt like, it felt like, oh man, could this go sideways back here? Everyone's thinking the tiger spot. And then he has putter out. So I'm like, okay, it can't be that bad. I was sitting over to the right with the franchise and Uncle Ken over by the, uh, behind. Double click on that
Starting point is 01:02:42 later. Also, I was looking at yesterday. There were four bogeys today. I'm sorry. That's such, such, such a good day. All time day with dad. It was Fantastic. So from the presser, Roy was asked if he was going to approach things differently this year than last year. He really soaked it in last year. Is he going to do the same thing?
Starting point is 01:03:01 He said, absolutely not. He said, I got two weeks off, but I, I, last year, his quote was, I felt like the Grand Slam was the destination. I realized very quickly last summer that it was not. And I'm ready to keep going. Hell yes. He's hungry, baby. I mean, it was like business like stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:20 TC, he called Augusta his home course. Randy, that has to have you terrified. He's like, I feel like this place is my home course. I was like, what a flex that is. I mean, I feel like I know exactly where to miss here. I just feel really, really comfortable at Augusta National. That was like the quote of the year to me. So he just felt like he was thinking like I am not done.
Starting point is 01:03:42 I want to see how good I can be was the sense that I got from him that he's not going to be soaking it in like he did last year. gosh that's fantastic i thought that was interesting what uh what else stuck out from the presser uh he was thrilled to to be in the conversation with uh you know for or i guess consider the best european golfer uh you know called out faldo but feels like even from his react he was like yeah i guess you know i'm tied with nick but i you kind of sense like blow past like i'm you know if we're being honest guys i feel like i'm better it was kind of the uh the sense there um wasn't fowdo was like try to show him something. I don't know if you guys saw that on the broadcast.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Dude, that was so awkward. It's like, dude, please, sir, Nick. He had an awesome answer about the shot into 12. So the wind off the left, he's he, he recalled a practice round with Tom Watson from 2009. And Watson gave him the advice of what Watson did was wait till you feel like the wind is doing what it should be doing. So you and, you know, your caddy talk about like, okay, it's off the left. And when you feel it doing what you think it should be doing, hit the ball immediately. And he's like, that's what I did.
Starting point is 01:04:48 I just waited. And then I felt the wind off the left and I hit the ball. And he's like, I, you know, he's like I lost a little farther, you know, went a little farther right than he wanted it to, but he bought himself some insurance. But I thought that was a fantastic. That is my shit right there. Like the forever nature of this tournament and all the just the millions and millions of things that you could pull on.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Oh, my God. Give me more. You got more than that? No, he's called out a great range session last night, you know, just just kind of up. Found it. I was like, that's exactly what I put in my notes. Found it. He did get too, two inside.
Starting point is 01:05:23 You know, hands were getting too far and the club's getting inside. And so he was just working on, no, sorry, he said he was getting too right. And he said that leads to the club being too far inside. And then what happens for me is I hook it. I miss left with the irons. And what did we see all day yesterday, missing left. Shout to Jonathan Yarwood, I think it was on, on Twitter. Had like a video on that about how like he has like scapular rotation.
Starting point is 01:05:46 with his right shoulder at the top, which leads him to drop the trail arm behind. And I was like, oh, I don't know anything about the golf swing, but now I know what to look for. I just don't even know what that feels like at a golf swing. I'm so over the top. I'm like, man, what would it feel like to be that under? Randy Top, tell me about that, brother.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Put ours together, Neil, because I don't know what it feels like to be over the top. Yeah. All right, TC, this is for you, brother. I mean, I thought I started laughing when he said this. Third shot in the 15. Love the yardage. They wanted to get to around 100.
Starting point is 01:06:14 He said he had 108, which, He trying to hit it 100 yards was the number they were looking for, which is a three-quarter lob wedge for him is what he said. He said, though, on that downhill line with the wind coming down, it's the kind of wind that kind of almost knocks the ball out of the air. And I said, oh, my God, are you serious? Like, is that on the bingo cart? Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:06:33 It's the kind of wind that knocks it out of the air. I was like, that kind of did knock it out of there. And he said, yeah, he's like, it might have taken a little spin off. And so he was worried it was going to come back. But it didn't sound like good contact. I was right there for that shot. It sounded a little heavy. It was, I thought it sounded clanky.
Starting point is 01:06:48 I was up in the bleachers. It sounded like it was a loud contact. It was like, oh, God, no, no, no, that wasn't it. That wasn't it. Yeah, thin. Oh, yeah. And we were, we were sweating that one. And everyone in the bleachers was kind of looked at each other, like a little grimace face.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Like, ooh, that was, that was fortunate. A couple more for you here. Somebody asked, what do you learn about life? Which I was like, sick. He said, just keep going. And he's like, I'm excited to keep going. Good things happen to those that wait. was part of that answer.
Starting point is 01:07:18 And so I feel like he's hungry, guys. That was just a little bit more insurance. Randy, your guy Bamberger had a great one. I didn't get the exact question quote is actually better than the answer. But he's like, this game has such odd mysteries. Why are players so different from day to day? Like, you know, what's it all about, Rory? You know, he was like, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Like, I was in a good headspace all week. But he called out. He's like, give you that blood back. I don't know, Mike. What are these odd mysteries? It was fantastic stuff from Bamberger. He said he was like the in 13th, like I hit it like shit off the T on 13 all day. But he was like I in the past like last year he played it as a three shot or he stayed aggressive today.
Starting point is 01:08:03 And he was like I, I try he tried to stay with his game plan more than he did last year was kind of what he said of that. But it wasn't really what Michael was asking. But it was I thought that I thought you get a kick out of that, Randy. I did. Thank you. You know what? For as many momentous decisions as there are on the golf course, there's some big ones in the press room, too.
Starting point is 01:08:21 That, that, that, that, that champion's press conference is a standing in 13 fairway. But Lori, a lot of, go for it.
Starting point is 01:08:29 A lot of people think about, uh, John Adams, something he wrote in a moment like this. Uh, and it's just, it's great. People let it rip.
Starting point is 01:08:36 I love it. Well, the best part, they got this, you know, really nice high-deaf screen behind them. And it's like the suns setting over Amen corner or over 13. And it's like the,
Starting point is 01:08:44 it looks like the sun like you're squinting. It's right above him. I'm like, man, I can't. Is he up there? You know, you got to your eyes have to adjust. Like, even the sun inside of the gust of looks real. Their eyes were watching God. It's like the Trubichuich.
Starting point is 01:08:56 It kind of freaked me out. He, Gabby Herzlick asked him to grade different parts of his game, gave his driving a B minus, which I thought was generous on a curve maybe. Irons three or four days. Have a great today. Yeah, he felt like he,
Starting point is 01:09:09 other than yesterday, he gave himself a B with irons and then A plus on short game, A plus on putty. He called out the 17s. Like, I don't know what it is, but I hit two really, those were both really difficult chips, especially today on 17. And I was standing right there. I'll tell you guys, watching that one.
Starting point is 01:09:25 I think the green reading over the last two to three years, like the putts that he made, especially Thursday, Friday, couple today, too, were just like some big benders that have a lot in them. And they were dead center. he didn't miss other than the one on four today he didn't really muck around too much with the shorties like it's he's marrying up pace and speed and he's doing all that like he he owns his greed reading like i watched the whole day with with mattie kelly and so he's telling me all sorts of you know he's like oh that's a you know that put's really good there you know that's going to be a difficult chip there and everything and for rory to just own it all and say hey and like
Starting point is 01:10:12 that's not a knock on Harry at all. That's a compliment to Rory. I don't want anything to muddy my first impression. And then watching him deduce some of those puts down the stretch. It was on his stick. It was impressive. Can I real quick just run through, I mean, just how good his short game was
Starting point is 01:10:31 and how integral this is to winning at Augusta. He was second in strokes gained around the green this week. Recent master's champions, Roy McElroy in 2025, 10th strokes gained around the green last year. 2024, Scotty Sheffler, first, 23, John Rom, 6th, 22, Scotty Sheffler, second, 2021,
Starting point is 01:10:50 Hideki Matsuyama, 4th. So you got to be in the top 10 around the greens, and Roy did it back to back years. That'd be greasy out there. There's so many moments where I just think about like Justin Rose, we didn't even really talk about this one, but the chip, we didn't talk about it maybe because it wasn't on TV, but the chip that came back to his feet on three.
Starting point is 01:11:07 You know, he drove it in a great spot on three. He looked like it was going to be his day. And then he, just, yeah, bones one miss. And it wasn't by much. It wasn't by much. I mean, it's like a very narrow margin, obviously, but it can, that's where the big blowups are, you know, is, is around. Which I think the other thing is, is with Rory, like we've been bitching, like, Randy and I've been bitching about it all week. But I think adjustments were a big part of
Starting point is 01:11:32 this week, adjusting to from the fast stuff on Thursday to a slower, softer golf course, Friday onward and then as the course livened up today through it all. And I felt like Rory's speed for the most part was awesome. Whereas you saw a lot of other guys like Cam Young left a few very, very short today. And Rory's speed was just, I felt like his speed was on point the whole week. And some of that could be owing to the waves. Like he got the benefit of seeing those guys go out on Friday and then being able to, you know, adjust.
Starting point is 01:12:10 to that. But the speed control is really good. T.C. One more from the press conference. Called out number 11 as someone asked stressful moments. He said the put on like second put on 11 going in was a big relief. And he called out 11 being a new green. He said it's very different than last year. And he's like, Cam left his short. It's a lot slower this year. And then it has been in years past. And so that green specifically said all week has been kind of frustrating. Like everyone is thinking it's going to be a lot faster. They're very defensive on that green. and so when he made the putt on, I didn't see that, but he made the putt on 11.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Even on one, guys. Like, I mean, both of them left their putts like well short on one. And you're thinking, holy shit, like this is, you know, they were both downhill puts too, right in the jaws. You're like, whoa, that was those 40 even close, you know. Rory has been, he's been seeking out a lot of course knowledge from, from other people. He's probably making a lot of phone calls. AT&T believes in connecting people to greater possibilities.
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Starting point is 01:13:39 Or to see an AT&T today? That would have been a great segue, Neil, to TZC we did. I had a couple that we left in the chamber from yesterday, but no, I didn't get to, the phone lines were long down at 13. So I didn't, I didn't work with phones today. Or so. Spiel didn't. I didn't either.
Starting point is 01:13:56 You had a loved one out there, Neil. You didn't have to connect. You were, you were connecting. Well, well, I called mom, but that was earlier in the day. I always called mom. Any highlights from watching the, watching the masters with your dear old dad? Oh, it was fantastic. So he said meet at the range.
Starting point is 01:14:12 This is the best. I told him to meet me at the range at 1.30 or sorry, 1230. It's, I don't know. I didn't have my watch on today, but probably 1250. Here comes a franchise walking up the path to the range. Like, hey, you know, a little louder than everybody else. He had gone to the media center. So I see Paul from PGA tour and about 45 minutes.
Starting point is 01:14:35 He was like, hey, they were calling your name in the media center. My dad had gone to the media center and they'd been calling for me. over the loudspeaker. I was there. Paul Hodoanick or Paul Hottowannick? I was like, he said, hey, they're looking for you in the media center. My dad was like, oh, that was probably me. I was like, what, you went in the media? What do you? I told you me to the range. He's like, what you told me to go left. I'm like, no, I said go left at the rain. Like, never mind. You know, I was there. You were not there. And I was like, I know exactly what this is. They're like, yeah, there's somebody's at the, at the post there. So I went out there.
Starting point is 01:15:03 And the lady's like, are you Neil Schuster? And I was like, no, but I, that's why I'm here. And he's like, oh, yeah, you got left already. By the time I made it out there, your dad had already, they made him call your name in the media center. And then he was also not there. Which is not what you want being called out in the media center. Yeah, it's just like trying to keep a low profile. We don't need that. Anyway, so that was good stuff.
Starting point is 01:15:23 So we walked around a little bit. Guys, I had such a blast. I got a little stressed out, you know, with all the action going on the front. I didn't see any of it. We were just bouncing from chair to like the best thing at Augusta is any, any empty chairs you can just sit down and then when the people come back they're just like hey those are my seats everyone's like oh cool I'll get up and uh it's like we sat at a man corner for a little while and then we sat in the trees uh at the at the turn on 13 right next to the uh cbs like camera crew because they're running guys
Starting point is 01:15:55 kind of work I don't know if it's 30 minute shifts but one guy I'll just be sitting in the chair and they're getting word on like what's going on so like they're kind of sharing what's happening uh going around the course. And we had this spot in the trees in the shade because, you know, the franchise is 72, Uncle Ken 78. You know, these hills will get them, Randy. So we popped the squat back
Starting point is 01:16:17 there in those trees. A lot of it that you'd think from TV. And we saw. The franchise I was walking sticks with him. I was going to say. No, he didn't. I feel like this is a Larry David situation where the franchise is what set CBS back today. He was distracted to CBS camera. He did something. He kept asking him questions. Hey, who is that over there? No, it was
Starting point is 01:16:33 fantastic. And, We were just watching guys come through there. Most guys were going for it. And then like Russ laid up, Morcaba laid up. Then we saw Hal Tong Lee. Watched that whole thing unfold. Stephen Cox is holding court,
Starting point is 01:16:46 giving him the proper rulings. I mean, that was, God, Scott, he deserves a lot of credit for, I mean, he got iced there for like 20 minutes.
Starting point is 01:16:54 That was unbelievable. It was our Yeti coldest moment. Good choice. Put him on ice, man. So that was fun. Now, I think the highlighted day is just like watching golf with, with a couple old guys.
Starting point is 01:17:05 They're kind of passing the binos back and forth, you know, got the, got the, uh, we're bringing bynoes next year, by the way. We need to. Yeah, that's the play. And my dad, you know, he's just like got the binoculars on the scoreboard. But everybody, like, we were sitting by the time, this was when we were in 14 in the grandstands. It moved over. And like most, pretty much everybody else in the grandstand is like close enough to see it with their own eyes.
Starting point is 01:17:26 And my dad just like narrating the scoreboard to like, like, and it's like, oh, everybody, everybody can read it. Oh, Rose is back to 11. He's like yelling at. I'm like, no, dad, like, everybody can read it. Like, he's, it's like, we don't need, we don't need that. We don't need the, don't need the binoculars there. Did you think about ejecting at any point from the franchise?
Starting point is 01:17:45 Or was it like you were, you were pot committed to the franchise? No, I had, I had a blast because they were asking about golfers, you know, like, who, who's this guy coming up, you know, and. Neil was teaching about the rules and everything. Yeah. No, I was right about that ruling on 13. I was like, because people were saying, no, he's in the penalty. No, he's not. There's a red line on the left side there.
Starting point is 01:18:02 That's a, you know, that ball's in play, people. like he can't pick that up he's got limited options here that was that was a fit I had that was the franchise rooting for I think he didn't you know he's kind of just rooting for a close ball game he was hoping for a playoff because he didn't want to walk up the hill on 18 he wanted to stay down by the T he was hoping they would come back to the T and he'd have like a primo spot and so when Rory hit that that drive way right
Starting point is 01:18:28 I was like I don't know maybe hang out here because but I was like I don't think he's making triple here that that would be there's a lot of room he hit it so far right that he had this, like, glorious window. It was, it was, uh, it wasn't that hard of a shot over there. But so they put their chairs down on 16. T.C., you'll love this. We get over there. Can't find the chairs.
Starting point is 01:18:48 So, you know, we're just kind of like, the writing that everyone's got their names on, but it's so small. So just like kind of knock iters out. Yeah, getting in front of people. You know, I'm like, dad, all right. Let's, you know, we can't, we took like 10 minutes to find these chairs. So we find them. I leave them there.
Starting point is 01:19:01 I'm like, great. I go back up at the hill. Uh, it saw the best shot of like, maybe the year Scotty threw the trees on 15. Oh my God. I was standing like three feet away. The convo with Ted on that one. That was unbelievable. And then it looked like he paid off that putt. Did he make birdie there? Yeah. That was the best shot I saw a week for sure. That was awesome. So I come back and when Rory was behind the green, my dad's got, he's got the binoculars on Rory and it's dead silent. And that's the best part about that place. It's like all
Starting point is 01:19:34 these people, it's an arena, but it's, you can hear, all you can hear is like the birds and the drone, like way up. And my dad's like, oh, yeah, I think he's looking for the peak of the hill there. Oh, yeah. Oh, man, this could be, this could be tough. He, I'm dead. Oh, oh, because he's like, doesn't realize, like he's zoomed in. He's like he's got headphones. Yeah, exactly. He's like in his own world. Oh, man, this could be a tough. Oh, oh, sorry. It's like VR glasses. Yes. It's like he's in the metaverse. It's unbelievable. It was cracking me up, man. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Every time he put the, every time he put the binoculars to his eyes, his voice would go up like three levels. Like, oh, rose, rose, drop your, road. It was, but no, I mean, it's just, moral of the story, it's like everybody, every generation thinks the Masters is awesome. And it was so, like, it was an awesome day. I just kind of like, was like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:20:32 I'm just going to sit here on 13 and enjoy. it and I kind of let go with like the stress like oh I got to go cover it and then I picked up Rory on 15 and followed him all the way in and it was fantastic and and you know I'm playing tomorrow my tc uncle Pete was like man jean kunk would be telling everybody in springfield ohio our grandpa like my son's playing a gust tomorrow like from three generations everybody fucking loves the masters so if we talk about all the content they're doing too much with a par three get kevin hard out here once the tournament starts man once you're like on the grass itself they do not fuck around they don't change in this they don't miss it's like it's my dad was like yes it's really
Starting point is 01:21:10 other than some of the buildings he's like I don't remember these concession like permanent concession places like some of the build out stuff like on the property but he's like it feels very similar to when burnhard longer won in 1985 when my dad was there for four days and so i was like what do you remember about that he's like honestly like everything looks pretty similar like it's pretty much like this it's awesome you know it's just like in that way it's like just it's magical because it's it in it today last year felt like a thriller you know like like it felt like memento like oh my god what the hell is going on like uh and that this year felt a little bit more like a i don't know just a fun judd appetal movie it was just leisurely
Starting point is 01:21:48 out there dee it was it was you know there weren't a lot of roars scotty got a roar on 15 and and uh i think 16 um and that was about it 30 on 16 that was about it man there were not really many back nine roars and I was okay with that. It was just like this is second nine. Second nine, excuse me. But it was, it was pretty, it was pretty low key out there,
Starting point is 01:22:09 which, which was different. What did Uncle Ken think? Oh my God. For those, I mean, he's what, 70,
Starting point is 01:22:15 78. Late 70s, never been to the Masters before. Massive sports fan. Yeah, huge sports fan. Just had enthusiasts. Like,
Starting point is 01:22:23 what were his takeaways? He just, he was like, man, this is like, he thought like, like A. M.
Starting point is 01:22:28 corner looks like a painting. Like, I said, can I say the same thing, man. He's like, it just looks exactly like you expected to look. And I think the experience is almost that way too. It's like it's everything. It lives up to the expectations and there might not be much out there in the world today
Starting point is 01:22:43 that does live up to expectations. I felt like that was his takeaway. And he was just like, oh, you know, oh, Corcoa, that guy went to Harding Park. You know, he lived out in San Francisco for years. So he was just like loving, he loved it. It was great. That's awesome. Neil also, the franchise should have.
Starting point is 01:22:59 We had a comment here. The franchise should have should have the phone lines and called in. Oh, he should have. That's a miss. Well, again, the line was long. You know, that would have been, God, that would have been a whole process, T.C. Like, what we do? What should I say?
Starting point is 01:23:11 Okay. Hey, he, Sally. Steve. I do want to circle back just for a second because the, you mentioned some of the par three stuff. You mentioned some of that. I think it's worth, we kind of mentioned circling back to this on Sunday. This is the first year. I think I've ever heard any kind of widespread.
Starting point is 01:23:29 commentary or widespread discourse, a little bit of like, what are we doing? What is going on here? At scale. And I think some of that was from non-gall, it was certainly from golf people. It was from non-golf people. Like you said, I think it dropped off once the tournament starts.
Starting point is 01:23:45 But I did want to at least like, at least have a conversation about some of that stuff. And we were talking about like the merch industrial complex, the merch hall videos, the hour-long merch lines, the like things like that. And then of course, ESPN trodden out Jason Kelsey and The Miz and, you know, social media saturation that you kind of mentioned.
Starting point is 01:24:09 I'm just curious, I guess, open forum. What is that, how much of that stuff matters? How much of that stuff translates to what's on the ground? How much of that is a monitoring this situation? Because I think people feel a ton of ownership and a ton of, you know, I don't want to stewardship is way too serious of a word. but a ton of, they care a lot about the masters. And they will really want the masters to be the masters.
Starting point is 01:24:35 And I think as soon as it starts, as soon as it starts to wobble a little bit, I think people are kind of just a little bit like, oh, God, are we going to lose this too? And this was the first year that I've seen any of that. And I'm curious if any of that resonated with you guys, T.C. I'll start with you. What were your thoughts?
Starting point is 01:24:51 Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I feel like the masters, you know, like you said, I mean, our parents went to it. Like, they were lucky enough to go to it back in the, early in mid-80s and like my dad's boss at the time like his family from Augusta and they're like yeah you want these four badges for the week and like and you know like I was born the week that Nick like you know 40 years ago this week and I feel like like I went for the first time 29 years ago in 1997 I've been I've probably been to 18 to 20 tournament rounds and I've been to a bunch of
Starting point is 01:25:26 practice rounds. And so I do like I feel like like the master's is an institution. It is it is immaliable. It like it exists in a certain place in my memory. And then when it doesn't exist like that in real life, there's there's just obvious dissonance there. And I feel like I don't think we're at, I think we're in monitoring stage. But the more that I hear from a wide swath of people and listening to the bag drop podcast this week, the new club guys like Matt Considine and Kevin Moore, who are like two of the most thoughtful guys in the world of golf, in my opinion, like just serious adults who aren't trying to create a stir. Like they're just like almost concerned citizens.
Starting point is 01:26:12 And I think that some of the stuff that they said of just the commercial element may be taking more of a front seat or things just feeling a little. bit out of balance. I think it's something to watch for. And I talked to people who were there in the clubhouse or at Berkmans or the word that keeps coming up is Disney. And it sounds like they brought in somebody from Disney to manage the lines heading into the merch operation. So they kind of hide it to where you, like you don't see the lines for the first half hour or so. And hearing stories about like Nicholas, like Nicholas Player Watson hitting the first T-shot and it being half empty out there because people are in line to get their gnome.
Starting point is 01:27:01 That to me is just kind of fucked up and against the spirit of like what this thing's supposed to be about. That's not their fault though in a lot of ways. The gnomes might be their fault. Yeah. I would say that I don't. Because and I totally get that like when you're on site, like I haven't been in it in, in, three or four years, but when you're on site, it feels immaculate and it feels,
Starting point is 01:27:24 but it's just the little corners where if you're paying attention, you're like, oh, that's, no, that's right. Like, Berkman feels like Disney World. And the merch thing is, it's a zoo. But the lines move there, they have a sign that says how long it is. Like, they're not trying to fool anybody is what I would, like there's not, I don't think there's, like, ill intent there. It's more like there's just a lot of people that, that want to get some of it.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Well, some of it feels like misplaced priorities, I guess, a little bit. two that are a little bit out of balance with what the original intent of this tournament was supposed to be about. Like Masters Dog Bowls and stuff like that. I'm like, what are we doing, guys? What's going on?
Starting point is 01:28:04 What are we doing? Well, the now driving hat, like all the big letter hat to stink. None of that matters to me as much as the reports we got from you guys on struggles of the broadcast and increased commercialization of the broadcast. Yeah. That is where I will throw
Starting point is 01:28:20 massive, like, it is literally Clifford Roberts, like, inventing golf on television in terms of, like, dude, there will be limited commercial interruption, like, to the point where I've got it saved in my phone somewhere, like his quote, yeah, like, you don't, you do not, uh, you know, we're not going to over commercialize the broadcast. And that is, if that's what's happening, I, we have not got to watch the broadcast. That's, that's, that's canary in the coal mine stuff with that. I will, like, it is the takeaway we've had from, from being here and, you know, in person is similar to a a lot of people, but the, the, the, we've called it the last civilized place on earth. Like the, there, there's nothing else in life that is so commercial, so commercialized,
Starting point is 01:29:02 but at the same time, they're not working. It never feels like they're trying to separate you from their, your money. Like everything, everything that they're doing, all the money they make off this tournament just gets invested into like making it 1% better the next time. It goes into the tunnels under the course. Yeah, like it goes into extra bathroom stalls. It goes into blah, blah. Like, it's just, it, it, truly does feel like there is like a lot of people that work for the tournament are doing everything in their power to make the tournament as best as it possibly can for anyone that ever tends it. It's remarkable.
Starting point is 01:29:30 That part is remarkable. And that part is like, I don't think I can go to the Super Bowl and feel that way. I don't think I can go to the NBA playoffs and feel that way or the world. I don't know what a sporting event that has that feeling of just trying to make it better every single year in some way. And there is some, like, maybe I've done a decent job of blocking out a lot of the stuff that just does not appeal to me at all. But I just find it super interesting that it's like a 75-year-old woman
Starting point is 01:29:55 that doesn't love golf would absolutely love going to the Masters. And I love going because it is like the best, also the best golf course. Not always it pretty, not always like amazingly pretty, but it's also like the best golf course. It also has all these awesome traditions. I don't want to like make it sound like it's lost, it's luster, the magic isn't there anymore. But all I'm saying is like, I think it, like it is also,
Starting point is 01:30:18 Sorry, it is all of those things and I have a lifetime relationship with it and I care fucking deeply about this tournament. And it's like there's just not that many institutions. Like the world seemingly keeps getting more cluttered and less tasteful and less tactful. And it's a bastion of those things. And I think that Wimbledon, the Masters and I'm not even sure what else rises to that station. And so, when you see it, I think there's just concerning things of like it feels more like the Kentucky Derby than the Masters in the lead up to it. It just sets off some alarm bells for sure. I think that's exactly how I feel. There's a little bit of me that is going to go back on what a much younger version of me said quite forcefully over and over, which is just stop being fucking old and lame and just open up this and do more of that.
Starting point is 01:31:13 And this was the first year that I was just like, oh, I could use a little more like restraint. I thought that was, that used to be what got me really, really excited to watch the first moment of the telecast at 3 p.m. on ESPN or, you know, wherever. And this is the first year that I'm just like, it's like, Nancy is, Nancy is explaining to us that which portions are on Paramount Plus today and all of that. And it's like, that feels like the world summed up a little bit in a nutshell, right? That's where I'm like, I'm totally with you that I'm like, what we're talking about, the stakes could not be. low, we're talking about a golf tournament. I get it. It's very, very, very low stakes here. But I am a little like, man, I don't know how you keep what made this thing so perfect and special for so long in a very modern world that's changed a ton. You know, and it's like every time I open my phone, there is some overly serious, overly syrupy montage of the scissors on the edge of the cup and an overhead shot of the umbrella. I'm like, oh my God, I've seen this fucking 500 times. This year. used to be like when I see the first one, oh my God, it's spring and everything has changed. Now I'm just, you can't get, can't stop getting just like inundated with it, which is not all
Starting point is 01:32:27 their fault. And that's kind of what I'm building towards is like, man, they're in a weird spot where they have to try to bring more people in. And they also have to try to keep it, keep the scarcity and keep the magic. And that's just really hard to do. And I'm, I'm curious how that goes over the next, the next, the next year. Like, it's more good, right? Like, it was like, it hits different. Like, Salli, Sala, you said it earlier this week. Like, it hits different when it's 3 o'clock and you haven't seen anything yet versus when you've been watching since noon or you've watching the range since 10 a.m. or whatever. And I think there's, I think there's good, like, I think that the quality of that stuff outweighs some of the clutter.
Starting point is 01:33:08 But, Dege, to your point, I think that some of it is on us to just almost drown out some of the master's industrial complex a little bit. because if you really hone in on what they're putting out, the Instagram, like, like if there's Instagram awards, they should win them. Like they're the, the highlight packages that they put up, they put up one of Rory that we talked about last night or one of Cam that we talked about or that we haven't talked about, but they put up overnight, you know, from his third round that are like the most artful stuff I've seen on the internet ever, right? Or the stories are unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:33:43 Like, everything is very intentional. it's just there's so much clutter around it I guess and I think they've made all the right decisions with regard to cell phones and all of that like they've they've they've drawn the right lines on that stuff it just feels like man we got to put we got to put christ back in Christmas a little bit we got a mass bag in the mask is a little bit I just want to assure you TC real quick too I think that the thing that bugged me this week about it a little bit was it felt like maybe the marketing or the marketing or the theme of the masters overruled nature and the golf course a little bit. And I think that's what bugged Randy and I about this setup a little bit of like we were presented this unique confluence of events this year. And guys prepped for that circumstance. And then what was on the ground and what we were given, regardless of the, reasons for it were different from that.
Starting point is 01:34:48 So I think that's just where I'm at with that. Randy, give me the last word. No, we can move on. I think this is, it's good. We don't need to relitigate it. I was hoping for a winner that was, you know, maybe seven under par,
Starting point is 01:35:04 eight under par, and it wasn't quite that tournament. But it was still, you know, on the scale of the master's tournaments, it was a good tournament. Yeah. They soured your vintage, man. It did sour my vintage a little, but that's okay. What were you going to say? What was your, what was your?
Starting point is 01:35:21 What I was going to say is because I want to hear it. The commercialization of Augusta, Georgia is outrageous. I mean, so I went to an acoustic Dave Grohl concert at a house. Like, it was probably a $10 million party. You know what I mean? It's absurd. The Delta took over the airport. It's an activation.
Starting point is 01:35:40 But once you, like, we can't have our phones on us. So like all the content, like I would feel exactly as you guys feel if I was at home and it was just getting inundated with all of this par three stuff and all that. But I will give them credit. And it's almost to a fault. And I think it's ties in with your criticism. I think the green jackets care deeply about the on site on grass experience. Yeah. And they want birdies.
Starting point is 01:36:05 And they don't want, Randy, I don't know if they want your vintage. Right. But they, I think they set things up for the on site experience. And that may be at a detriment to sometimes the TV experience or like the, you know, the tournament that you guys want to watch. But I, I feel like on, once you get on the like merch is on the pavement. Burkman's is on the pavement on the outside of the grass. It is, it is a steep stakes. You're right. There is a lot we could talk about about over commercialization. But I'll just say on the grass, it really feels like it's protected. And that, that's just was my experience this weekend last year. It's hard on the, just. on the way the golf course plays and that like today was firmer undoubtedly than then yesterday was and yesterday was a way more fun day like it was way more exciting like that's where I'm like I think the you know a little bit of softness in this golf course is not the worst thing in the world if wind like natural wind comes up and create some really challenging like playing conditions
Starting point is 01:37:05 that's also interesting but also the opportunity to go on runs and and feeling like stuff's going on all over the golf course like today was a little bit muted and I'm I'm I honestly think if it was softer today, it would have been more fun. That's not a shot at Rory or the final result or anything like that. It's just... Oh, and solid. To your point from earlier, like, it's not a McKenzie golf course anymore either. Like, it's, it's, it's kind of Disney world.
Starting point is 01:37:26 And like, if we're going to lean into the, I think it all just feels a little bit artificial at this point. And, but it's, it's fucking awesome. Artificial, but very real in the way that it is like, it is a, the name of the tournament, I felt like I watched Masters of their craft play this. golf course this week. And the knowledge it takes, the experience it takes, the, like, the consequence of the shots. And like, I know there were a lot of birdies, especially on Saturday. But again, if you watch the golf in person and like there was a lot of not birdies happening out there, too, and a lot of uncertainty around everything that was happening. And it just, it, it was a step,
Starting point is 01:38:04 multiple steps above like anything mediocre we see in other major championship setups, like multiple. And it was, I don't know, man. I just think that it's always, I like the fact that it's a golf course that like a rose and a reed can compete on and show their creativity, show their knowledge off, hit, you know, it, it gets somebody like Rory that can use their power element to their advantage in so many different spots. It's just a remarkable blending of a test of skills, of artistry, of uneven lies, different spins, controlling your trajectory, controlling your spin, controlling your page. controlling your pace on putts, reading puts, hitting putts outside the hole, different kinds of chips. It is just, it is anything but repetitive golf. And I have just getting even more appreciation for this place, I've been walked in the last three years. And Sally, I agree with all that. I think that, I guess my stance is that the, the creativity was just a little bit
Starting point is 01:38:59 neutered with how, how soft or how slow some of the slopes were around the greens. And I think that some of that may just be a matter of like trying to keep the grass alive. Right. And, And I think my impression of the masters is maybe like you're like, all right, the masters are on the course. And I think my impression of the tournament this year a little bit was like, no, the masters are the ones pulling the puppet strings a little bit and that sort of thing. Solly, I think you said something interesting that it's not that it's not repetitive. And I totally agree it's not repetitive to the 51 other weeks of the year that we see. I guess where I'm getting a little, if you look at the last like, really since Tiger won.
Starting point is 01:39:42 I mean, the winning scores here are now 10 to 13 under par. It's like pencil in 10 to 12 under par being the winning score. I just am a little afraid it's a little repetitive unto itself. And I would like to get back to where it's like, holy shit, Zach Johnson won the Masters at one over par. And, you know, Phil wins it at 7 under. And then one year, you know, somebody goes to 16 under. Like I don't sense we have a big variability.
Starting point is 01:40:10 and how they want to set up or let the course play. And so it's a little repetitive, in my opinion, unto itself each year. I would point Randy to 2024 when Scotty won, like there was two players that were lower than minus four that week. Scotty was minus 11, lovely was minus 7. The wind blew and it was like, yes,
Starting point is 01:40:26 the scores went in a totally different direction. I feel differently about this place than I did in like the mid-20, like around 2015-ish. Like when the year at Speed went nuts and wanted it, except the scoring record or whatever he ended up winning at, like the second place was shared at 14 under and speed was 18 under it felt i guess it felt too easy like it felt too much like a turkey shoot and it felt like they it felt weak it just felt like it needed to add some strength and like i don't love all the lengthening of the holes but i feel like
Starting point is 01:40:55 it's got its strength back with the lengthening of 15 lengthening of 13 lengthening of 5 since then like a lot of a lot of length has been added to this golf course to add a little bit of punch back and have it feel like there's, it's not, you know, Oh, Hatton's running off five birdies in a row. Although that doesn't matter because blah, blah, blah, you know, Cantlay's, you know, getting back into contention, making a ton of birdies. It just, it feels like there's punch in this golf course through length
Starting point is 01:41:21 and through stuff that's maybe not necessary if they would have actually controlled technology. But it feels like there's a solid, I, none of that felt easy to me, honestly, watching this entire week. It just, it really, really did not. And it didn't, I never felt like mediocre. shots were ending up in good spots or that they mediocre shots were ending up in a spot where
Starting point is 01:41:40 par was still a very easy score that you didn't have to overcome anything to get there. If you hit a mediocre shot, you needed to hit a really solid shot to recover in some way or make a put. And that's the kind of golf that I find interesting. I think when it goes bad on that on other major setups or on the PGA tour, it's like a pretty good shot and a mediocre shot kind of just end up in this 30-ish foot, you know, to 40 foot. putting range and you're probably going to two putt it because the greens aren't that interesting and it just never feels that way at Augusta. Solly, what have been your thoughts on 13 since they've lengthened that?
Starting point is 01:42:14 What were your thoughts watching it this week? This is what the fourth year since they moved the T back, 2023, I believe was the first year. I feel like it needed to be done in some way. And I feel like it has been a lot less interesting of a golf hole. Part of me is wondering out loud if they move the T. back too far. And a problem, what we've seen with the Gus, when they do put in new T's, they make a new, like there's no, there's no stretching option, right? If there's, they've had, they've had some years since they've moved that T back where the wind has been in on 13 and 15.
Starting point is 01:42:51 And nobody can get there. And it ends up kind of, kind of dull, right? And I think Phil had some pretty dramatic comments about it on, he took the everything app and had some feedback on that one. Your boy, Randy. And I think there is, um, there's there's something to that t shot was too easy for those guys at the 510 yardage guys are in three woods couldn't get three wood eight iron into it and that you know the momentous decision doesn't exist I have to look at like a shot chart of wherever the buddy's ending up off the tea but I feel like right now we had this you know you had this strip the guys were hitting it into when you could hit it around the corner and you have a strip now and I feel like I kind
Starting point is 01:43:30 of want it in the middle of those two like I kind of want you know worry still look like he seems like he has to think about the corner a little bit, but not many guys have to think about the corner. Like part of the deal was, hey, am I going to risk getting around this corner a little bit? Am I going to risk playing to this corner? Because if not, the ball's going to be about my feet. And now it just feels like it's hit it straight.
Starting point is 01:43:49 And we're going to deal with the rest there. And if the wind is any hurting at all, I'm probably going to end up laying up. And the momentous decision isn't like, it's not really looming the same way that I feel like it used to, to the point where when I've been out there last several days, I've not been incentivized to want to watch the golf on 13. I do feel incentivized to want to watch 15.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Like that's where it seems like there's just a lot of a lot of stuff going on in terms of like this. Anything could happen when they get to 15. And 13 feels a little formulaic to me right now. And like unless it's perfect, I don't need to go for it. And I don't know.
Starting point is 01:44:23 That's just kind of, it's not presenting the same drama that I feel like it maybe should. And I'm curious your guys' reaction to that as well. I think more people are going for it than it seems. and I feel like my eyes do perk up and this almost is like a roar shock test for a little bit of the setup stuff
Starting point is 01:44:43 we were talking about like do you want to see birdies and eagles or do you want to see shot values? And I got a big kick out of today. Justin Rose gets to the 13th T. He has to rope a draw to max out what he can do. He does it. He gets down to the flat spot. What a shot.
Starting point is 01:44:59 And he sets himself up, he had like 213 yards or something like that. Such a sick three. Sets himself up for just the shot of the. tournament, right? Like if he was going to win the tournament, that's that's the shot he needed to pull off and he did it and he gave himself a chance. And he gave it a run on that putt. He definitely gave it a run. And the next one. Scotty, uh, Scotty gets to that T. Scotty obviously has a very hard time drawing the driver, which is the shot that you need to hit. He's fighting it.
Starting point is 01:45:23 He's doing all the, all the, you know, body motions. He's flipping. He's doing everything to try to get that ball going right to left. It still doesn't do it. And it kind of, I'm, you know, I'm guessing based on where it ended up because it only went like $2.85 or something like that. It probably was that one that kind of hung out, floated, and then instead of bouncing forward and left down the hill, I think it just hit at the top of the hill and took a straight left turn. So he didn't get enough distance. Exactly what happened.
Starting point is 01:45:50 And he's blocked out. And he can't get there. And he doesn't make birdie. And he loses a tournament by one. He probably could have gotten there. He had 239 in. It's also like one of the firmest greens on the golf course. Right.
Starting point is 01:46:03 But that's where I'm kind of trying to say is like, Like, well, that shot value to me, right? If he didn't hit the shot off the T, he can't get there and he loses the tournament by one. I'm like, I think that's mission accomplished. It's not that the shot value is gone. It just feels a little out of balance to me. Just a little bit.
Starting point is 01:46:20 And they split the difference. Just move the T. That's kind of what I'm at. It's like, put in the middle. A 535, what is it, 545 now? I feel like 535 might be interesting. And part of the problem of this equation is like the fact that, When Faldo had that shot in 1996 and he had 225, a 225 shot was very different than than it is now.
Starting point is 01:46:41 Like that's the problem with technology is like the scale of golf is out of like. Need to grow into this tea to give it a couple years. We're going to be good. Rory hit seven iron from 225 into 15. Like it's a totally different, different scale of the game. That's part of the problem. And like if you just go back farther, the slopes are different there. And it, you know, the shot shapes are different.
Starting point is 01:47:03 and it just doesn't seem to create the same level of excitement. Like I, Sally, what's the, like, is the angle right? Like, can they do anything with the angle of even like,
Starting point is 01:47:11 you know, split the difference between the two and then push it a little bit farther to the left where guys have to hit more of a draw or else it's, and it's really pointing you into the woods. I almost think like even a little farther right creates a little bit more of that temptation. A problem with this though, it brings the creek more in.
Starting point is 01:47:26 Yeah, they've lost so many of the trees that like, I think if you move it up too far, you could, you could, you could end up with a high high fades over it above a situation like is a way easier now than it once was like truly so um so i don't know i always said i sat there today for 90 minutes right on the corner um most guys were going morcawa laid up russ henley laid up those were the two
Starting point is 01:47:51 that were in position where i was like okay morca was way back and then scottie was the last one i saw and then i moved on um so dj to your point most guys were going but they're all bailing out to the left, you know, Justin Rose was the only guy that really took on that flag. I mean, that was a really, really good shot and he was waiting for a while before he hit that one because of the Hal Tongley, the year the horse was going on
Starting point is 01:48:15 up there. That was something. Maybe a Barbaro situation. I don't have all the numbers in front of me, but Data Golf did post this. Going back to 2021, it was
Starting point is 01:48:31 2023 that they lengthened it. So going back to 2021, the go for it rate was like 72% back in 21. And then it's just a straight stair step down from there. It was like 62% in 2022. Then they lengthened it. It went down to about 54%. Last year, it was just under 50%. This year for round one, it was 62%. For round 2, for round 2, it was 49%. So that's closer than what I think would make sense. Then it has a my head in terms of it being. There was a little helping win today from what I can tell. But to your point, if the wind switch is it was very gusty.
Starting point is 01:49:11 15 also feels like it's gotten more difficult as well. Yeah. And so I feel like those two holes are a little bit out of balance as they are as well. Like, all right, then like not only are less guys going for it, but the guys that are going for it, the shot's probably harder into 13 than it used to be. And into 15, it feels like that thing is much more knife sedge.
Starting point is 01:49:34 Hard as it's ever been. And like 15 fucking rules now. I'm weighing on 15. Even the third shot on 15. It is awesome. Is sick. And like the guys that were going long or like, you know, guys going on the water long on 15 this week. Like yeah, fuck yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:49 Sign me up for that. That like the shot that can't that was that Cam Young that hit the one long or Scotty? Like Scottie hit one over. Yeah. Can't hit one just over today. That might be the hardest shot in all of golf to get up and down from long of 15. And so I feel like, all right, if 15 is going to be diabolically hard, and like maybe 13 should be more of a like a six iron, you know?
Starting point is 01:50:14 Yeah. It's not, it doesn't seem far off. It just seems like just a little. Like the margins. Yeah. Yeah. And again, I'm more mad about technology than I am what they did to the whole because. Like Randy, does, does, does Mickelson, like let's say Michaelson,
Starting point is 01:50:30 hits the same shot. What was the year that he hit the one from the pine straw up there? Yeah. If he's 20 yards farther back, is he hitting that shot from the pine straw? Knowing Phil, probably, yeah. Yeah. I was going to say, who truly who knows. But yeah, that's, it's, I'm really curious if Scotty regrets the layup today.
Starting point is 01:50:56 And whether he was just spooked from earlier in the week or what went into that decision. That's kind of what I've been thinking about as you guys have been having this discussion. I was surprised by it in the moment, Randy. I was, some other patrons. And it was like, oh, he's, no, he's going for it. I, despite what I was saying, I love this part, right? Where it's like 239, it was probably right, seven wood, but did he want to hit the seven wood from the ball above his feet? The kind of thing is like, okay, that's interesting. Like, that's what I want. I want to be in that area of like, should we, should we be there? So maybe, maybe it's closer to to actually be in
Starting point is 01:51:32 in the area that I'm picturing. But again, just the times that I spent on that hole this week was just not the most exciting times, I thought. Yeah. Going down the leaderboard just a little bit, I feel like we've talked about a lot of these guys. Russ Henley, we didn't really talk a ton about 68. He looked like a very, very real contender there for a minute.
Starting point is 01:51:53 Thank you, Randy. That's nice to hear. He shot into 11 today. I was like, man, that was like, that was big boy shit. He's hitting lumber. He's hit in two, he's got two, ten into some of these holes that other guys were hitting nine iron into. Like, Neil, were you, did you see Russ Henley's name on the board at some point? Did you say 11 or 10?
Starting point is 01:52:12 That was 10. He had 220, 222 into 10. And he just hit. He just calling it out in the binoculars. Russ Edley's to 10. Yeah. It hit this just bullet into like, it was such an awesome. He's such a golfer, such a capital G golfer.
Starting point is 01:52:27 I mean, it was just, it was great. It looked like he had one hand tied by his back playing against. They may have been born. 50 years too late, totally. A hundred percent. Average 285 off the tea today. It's great. Tirohattan, we didn't really talk about 66
Starting point is 01:52:42 today. I was just for a hair. Just for a hair, I was a little nervous that I said we had gotten rid of him yesterday. But great round. Stay the course, Dave. You were right. The tournament was over Friday. You were right. Stay the course. Round two and round four, 66,
Starting point is 01:52:56 with a 72 in the middle, might be a Tyrell Hadden. That's a good thing. Burns and Lowry just free diving the leaderboard all day. Oh my God. Shuffed. Yeah. Shane Lauer,
Starting point is 01:53:09 the unlucky 80 today, Randy. I know you were bummed to see that. Did we get a question? I wrote my notes. Did we get a fuck this place on 16? Because I saw him in the drop zone. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:53:22 It was not getting a lot of coverage after, after he hit the lip on five. He hit in the fairway bunker at five and then hit the lip. It was. it was pretty tough i was right in the midst of the whole cvs catastrophe too like they had they had to go back to they had to do a whole highlight package of what happened to burns like 25 minutes later because i think they caught so much flack for missing it in the moment yeah lowry's 70 69 68 80 that that rules that's what i'm about that's what we're talking about that's maybe
Starting point is 01:53:55 championship goal yeah uh you mentioned sam burns ended up shooting 73 uh looked like you he might be a problem there on the first hole comes out in Bertie's the first right and never do that that's right TC and I were I don't know I think we're just quietly kind of like Sam Burns gonna win this like Sam Burns is really really really good
Starting point is 01:54:15 and then just runs into a hornet's nest on the second did he hit in the Delta counter no hit it right okay hit it right and then I think he had to take a drop like TC said this was during the media blackout I believe he had to take a drop then punched out then complete Icarito over
Starting point is 01:54:31 the green doesn't get it up and down. Leads to a double. It drives it in the fairway bunker, if I'm remembering right on three, doesn't get it out of the bunker. Just a tough, tough start for... Sorry, we're supposed to be. Also, guys...
Starting point is 01:54:48 But fought back. Is one, like, I... I used to remember guys going in that bunker on one. It was like, cool, you're making boat. Never to be seen again. Yeah. I know. It feels like one is a fucking pushover. at some point
Starting point is 01:55:03 in my book somewhere they moved one up 10 yards for for patron flow purposes I believe so it's only 445 now which like in terms of modern length golf holes that's that's a driver wedge
Starting point is 01:55:17 for these guys Roaring hit three wood which was very strange to me just like just hit it perfectly even with that fairway bunker I was like it seems like you can just hit driver over but
Starting point is 01:55:30 that was that was interesting uh morikawa gritty gritty 68 didn't know what we're going to get from your guy this week Randy uh you know he's talking about mental scar tissue he's talking about you know not being able to pull the trigger it was that's that's good stuff 68 68 on the weekend
Starting point is 01:55:47 yeah completely uncompetitive top 10 stolen valor wiki yellow uh birdies in a row yeah 13 14 14 15 and 16 all while wearing that ugly, ugly shirt. And I'll say we saw him warming up this morning, and it looked like he was swinging about 80% on the range.
Starting point is 01:56:08 Like he, he, my dude, the dude was fighting it, man. Like that's a really impressive finish for somebody that was clearly, clearly not at 100%. As one,
Starting point is 01:56:16 from one fellow back injury guy to another, I salute you, call him work out. That brings us to T9. We probably should have led the show with this. Our guy, Max, Homa's going back to the master. Hell of you.
Starting point is 01:56:29 Max with a, what did he shoot today? 67. Eagle on 13. The swing is looking good. We're bogey free on Sunday. Just things you love to see. I don't have a whole hell of a lot more to add other than we love Max going back to the Masters. Seems like he needed a he needed a get right result. You know, it was not, I know, I know he's finding safe harbor for next year. That's that's fun, man. Which is such a, that's such a preview. I said top 12 or buzz. It's coming for Max this week. I thank you guys for that. Irons look really good. Also, just a, that's the mark of a great man is, Randy, you said this earlier, the great men play the holes as they're intended.
Starting point is 01:57:07 The great men also find it at Augusta. You know, that's what Max, that's what Max has done the last couple of years. Bad results coming in and just like, oh, let me go to the most technical golf course in the world and I'll figure it out there. I think sometimes you just need, like, you've got to flip your brain a little bit. I mean, this is where all the flowers to Augusta, but it does, it brings out a creative it forces a creativity and an artistry that we just don't get to see that often. It detaches you from your, from having to hit your driver on a string.
Starting point is 01:57:39 Yeah. Like, I mean, watching Max on Friday, like he was hitting his second, or I think it's, maybe it was his third shot into, no, second shot into 15. And he's just staring it up and down. And then he gets another seat in 16. I was like, all right, you know what? Like, Max looks back. His confidence is back.
Starting point is 01:57:57 He's got that spring in his step again. Yeah. More to come. Quail Hollow, here we come. Zander Shawfley rounds out the top 10, 68 today. 8 under. Very just solid week. That's kind of a like when we go. When we get to the.
Starting point is 01:58:13 When we get to the PGA, this is a bit of a don't. Don't forget Zander. This is a note to self. Zander's playing really good golf. Zander's not heard anymore. Just remember this when we get to to the Mink, TC. This is. important.
Starting point is 01:58:30 I go back to black and white. You know, I thought Zander had a real chance this week. His kind of 11 through 13 on Friday, I just I'm totally with you, Dech. He's playing good golf. He's going to win a big tournament.
Starting point is 01:58:45 Jake Knapp, 11th. Again, kind of just things you love to see. I think that was one of a, on paper, this seems like a guy that should really play well here, and you just love when the paper guys do that. You know, he's playing fucking awesome golf. which of course brings it to T12
Starting point is 01:59:01 George Speed. Is he back? Did he run out of holes? No, Speed ball struck it well enough to be, definitely not well enough to win, but well enough to be in contention and just completely.
Starting point is 01:59:14 The checkpoint on the road back. Yeah. Honest question. The chipping for Eagle on 13, is that the most emotion, Speeth has showed? Right. Like, yeah, since when?
Starting point is 01:59:26 Totally agree. Since like that traveler's holeout, a million years ago or something. I mean, it was like, he was fist pumping. He was feeling it. There's been a lot of you guys should, like, they're just everybody should quit speech and dialogue. Like, it's, it felt kind of like late 90s,
Starting point is 01:59:41 early 2000s, anti-tobacco or tobacco lung cancer. You need to put a warning label on that. It's addictive, T.C. Like, if I need to. There was no joy, though. When I was watching it, just no joy on Friday. Yeah, I mean, he didn't play good.
Starting point is 01:59:57 That's, uh, if, If I had to clarify my position on that, TC, it's just, like, I don't think he's, he's not playing great golf. I thought he was playing good enough to at least have a magical run this week. And I wasn't that far off from that. So I'm not like, oh my God, when we get to Harbor Town, he's definitely in a boat race to everybody. I was like, no, he's not. He's not there. He does.
Starting point is 02:00:20 He's very close. Maybe he will. That would be great. He doesn't at Harbor Town? Like, I'm, I'm, I think I'm jumping ship if he doesn't win next week. kind of like where I'm at. Oh, well, I thought Max might win Harvard Town.
Starting point is 02:00:34 I think Harvard. Dej, I don't know how you could watch that this week, what we've seen on Aurora, what we've seen out of Scotty and not just, and not feel defeated. I don't, I don't know how you're beating those guys. Sure. This ain't Augusta National, the
Starting point is 02:00:50 one that he dominated. It's a different golf course. It's a longer golf course. And people have gotten a lot longer. And it is a different ask of Jordan Speeth that, I mean, not that I don't, I don't see what you're seeing. I want to.
Starting point is 02:01:07 I just don't see what you're seeing. Again, I'm happy to take any, any, I'm happy to take any bullets on this that I need to take. But it's, uh, what my, what my pick presupposed is maybe we don't get this Rory and maybe we don't get this Scottie. Like if that was kind of the whole thing was like, yeah, if they do what they're going to do, they're going to fucking smoke
Starting point is 02:01:28 of course. But like maybe we didn't. Yeah, but even if we, like we didn't get them and he still finished like five back of the next closest guy. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:01:38 he didn't play good. That's what I'm, I'm not saying that like I got unlucky or so. It just didn't happen. I was taking a chance and it didn't happen. Solly, congratulations on picking Sheffler, man.
Starting point is 02:01:47 That was sick. Solly, question for you, how much longer is the golf course versus like 2015 or even, even was the last year he kind of bottled it away? It is 7560 now, I believe. I have the book here. But they've also sandcapped the hell out of it.
Starting point is 02:02:04 It seemed like they mowed it tighter in the fairways this year. There's more short grass. It seems like there's less acreage of second cut. It's 7565. When he won, it was 74.35. They have lengthened the fifth hole, 40 yards. They have lengthened the second hole, 10 yards. They have linked in the 11th hole, 15 yards.
Starting point is 02:02:26 the 13th hole 35 yards and the 15th hole 20 yards and the 17th hole 10 yards. Setting aside five, I don't think it's that different of a golf course. I just think the other guys have gotten so much longer. Yes. Yeah, that's totally. Totally. I think, yeah. So listen.
Starting point is 02:02:47 He needed to make some putts, Deeds. Yeah, of course. Again. He just didn't, you know, he needed a hot putter. Yes. We didn't get it. But also, you see Team Rose there at. 45 years old.
Starting point is 02:02:58 Mickelson, Fred couples, Bernhard, this is what I'm saying. It's like, we can't say on one hand to like, man, what a, this place is just an exam.
Starting point is 02:03:06 These places, this place, just you gotta have course knowledge and who knows, like yada, yeah, yeah. I'm saying,
Starting point is 02:03:11 I'm not saying he's the favorite. I'm not saying like any of that, but I'm not quitting either. Like, you know, I think he'll have another run in his career is what I'm saying. At this place.
Starting point is 02:03:21 At this place. At this place. At this place. Bernard Lowe. All these guys play like some of the most contained. and respectable golf. You can imagine. Jordan Speed plays golf like a crackhead, okay?
Starting point is 02:03:30 Like, it's not, we are not the same in this. Like, I said this to deal. I was like, Speed needs to reinvent himself as Justin Rose. He needs like a set routine. He needs to take himself off this emotional roller coaster. It's going to make him less appealing. This is part of what we love him anymore if he does that. I know, but.
Starting point is 02:03:49 He's a method actor like Rose. It needs to be like my ball is on a string. I'm always in control of it. And I'm going to be steady. and I'll have my magical moments. Right now, it is just way too up and down. Everything's an emotional roller coaster. And when he makes three birdies in a row,
Starting point is 02:04:05 what hole was it on 10 earlier this week? He stuffed it to four feet, maybe five feet. He was watching four feet. And Neil caught up. He goes, oh, yeah, caught himself. He goes, ah, he won't even hit the hole from there. And he did it. He did not.
Starting point is 02:04:17 He was awesome. The haters, man. We're not. I love the guy. I spent four hours with him. You're in denial. I don't know. Dude, you're just in denial.
Starting point is 02:04:27 Do you go to a long putter? No, he should get it. He needs a guru. He needs to go to India and get like yogi stuff. How do we know he doesn't have a guru? It doesn't seem like he has a guru. How many, how many great cross-handed putters? Are there?
Starting point is 02:04:40 How many great cross-handed putters are there? Let me throw that out there. Yeah. I don't know. Should he, should he? I hate to ask me this question. Yeah, that's it. Does he, does, has the Greller relationship run its course?
Starting point is 02:04:54 Oh, no. I don't know. Can you imagine how much worse it would be without Grasman, Randy? Rangler's not the issue. Get the fuck at it. There was a spell. It was a spell a few years ago where we said
Starting point is 02:05:04 is speed holding Greller back? Should Grell is winning majors? We were saying that? I was saying that. Michael's not the problem, Randy, okay? Why didn't they slant? All right, I'll put you guys on the spot. Everybody could shout out one other player.
Starting point is 02:05:20 We're already over two hours here. We've got to keep this thing moving. You can shout out one other person or defer. Ludwig, three under. Before we get there, before we get there, I think Brooks warrants a shout out. Before we get there, let me. Let me fill a buster.
Starting point is 02:05:36 Before we get to Ludwig, I'm just going to take this to three hours. I just want to shout out Brooks. We talked to him about it like, hey, like we can't go 45 minutes into the preview show without mentioning Brooks these days. Like I think we're back to him being an adult golfer. And then I'm just going to raise my hand and apologize to everybody for, for P's performance this weekend. It sucked. 72, 73.
Starting point is 02:05:59 Like, this thing was right there for the taking for him. And not only did it suck, I don't know where we go from here with the Fodora 5. I think we might just leave the top spot blank next time around. I don't know when we'll even get the next Fadora 5. Maybe you just put it on ice until he plays well again.
Starting point is 02:06:20 So that's, those are my, read's mind of like, that that's stunk i also yeah i just i just don't know where we go from here with reed cc you had a call around ludwig Tommy looked like shit today uh Ryan gerard the hottest player in the world had a tough day like where where do you go from here brother like i did say let ludwig it came down to 18 it looked like it was going to be well in hand but ludwig did uh he did end up beating Ryan Campbell did got it by one 18 got him by one yeah yeah so
Starting point is 02:06:54 Congratulations. Which hand up. Campbell in Mike Easter all week. So shout out to him. But like, like, I mean, P. If you're P, like, is he going to the Volvo China open next? Turkish Airlines open? I mean, you're talking like literally geographically.
Starting point is 02:07:09 Where does he go for me? Yes, exactly. Like, where does he go before the PGA in May to stay sharp? He's going to be fucking globetrotting. God, that's a great question. He should make a deal that, uh, the tour should let him play practice rounds. Like, you can't play the tournament, but you can't play the tournament, but you You're welcome to come to the facility.
Starting point is 02:07:26 Let them Monday in. Exactly. It's the same thing between the PGA and the U.S. Open. It's the Sudol Open in Belgium, the Austrian Alpine Open, and then the KLM open in Amsterdam. Like he's going to be playing Continental Europe events. You just go between the Mink and Chinicock. That's a great point. I'll shout out Jason Day.
Starting point is 02:07:52 I feel like I picked him. Over the last 12 years, like four times, like, Jason Day is going to win the Masters. And today was just kind of summed up his master's experience. I think three over, you know, he's, he was right there. And it's just like, dude, like, no, he looked great, but just not good, not closing the deal, man. I was laughing last night when we were talking about Jason Day. It's like, yeah, you had such a good run.
Starting point is 02:08:17 But then he just, man, he just bogeed 16. It's like, yeah, he always bogey 16. That's just how it goes all the time. That was a little bit of an 18-old version of that today with the 75. I'll shout out Matt McNeely. Hell yeah. That's his major finish. Like, it's not a meteoric rise.
Starting point is 02:08:35 He's taking up, you know, any list, but it is small incremental gains every year, every week. Like, he's just getting a little bit better, a little bit better, a little bit better. And, yeah, final round 67 here today to go up to a T-18 finish. Was 67 the best, 500 the best rounds of the day? And Gary Woodland shot six under. Mav shot 77 first round too. He was nine under the last three days. I will shout out, you know, not going to make any headlines,
Starting point is 02:09:09 but TC, you know, this is, we kind of staked our name on this one. We need him to start playing some real good golf. Michael Brennan, underpar at the Masters in his first, in his first appearance, T24, you know, don't have a lot to add. I know it's a good course fit, but a tricky place and you love to see it. Yeah, anytime you can tie with Brian Campbell with T24, you're going to take that. No, it was a good week. Randy, you had kind of on the list of like guys, you learned something about it.
Starting point is 02:09:38 I feel like I had Brooks like lookout for Brooks and Michael Brennan. I was like, man, some fire, a guy I'm looking forward to watching in the future. So I'm seeing what you're seeing, T.C. Yeah. And then I mean on the Ludwig front guys like I think he's got to add a little bit of artistry to his game. He got put on the speed bag by Scotty yesterday. Like he's got to he's got to grow up a little bit from a from a from a shot making perspective. And I think the other guy I learned something about was Goderup.
Starting point is 02:10:09 I thought Goddard was more of a dude. I thought we were going to see a top 10 from Godor up this week. Hey, first master's jitterbug. It'll get you, Randy. That's right. Called that one, huh? Yeah. I mean, you can keep apologizing if you want, T, T, Tommy.
Starting point is 02:10:20 four over today. Again, too much respect. Tommy's a gentleman. Flashy wide boy, six over. He's harvesting energy right now, heading into Shinnock. Randy, you got anyone you want to shout out? I like to see Matt McCarty.
Starting point is 02:10:37 You know, had no real form. Came back to Augusta. Top, you know, tied for 24th. Good, good paycheck for him. Decent week. Good sneaky little resume in his first couple appearances here. Lefty plays, you know, I think there's something that fits his eye here. It is interesting.
Starting point is 02:10:55 I'm looking at the top 12. I don't know of anyone that is going to need that top 12 exemption next year. I mean, like maybe, maybe, maybe Jake Knapp. He was definitely trending in a good direction that he would not need that. But yeah, yeah, almost everybody's. Honestly, I thought I got Max might, you know. That's what, yeah, other than Max. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:14 Honestly, Can't Lay? Yeah. Like if we're, I'm so glad Can't Lay didn't get the top 10 finish. I'm so sick of that. Just take it away, Pat. He'll be back. He'll be coming.
Starting point is 02:11:28 35. It's a lot of LBGR. It's a good call. It's time to just cash a paycheck and put a ski mask on for the FedEx Cup playoffs. I'm trying to think what else we got in the notebook here. Sergio broke his driver.
Starting point is 02:11:40 You guys see that? No. That was epic. Was that on number two? A code of conduct violation. 2T and then Jeff Yang gave him a code of call you have had a stern talking to coming off 40 radio anyone ever had to invoke the code of
Starting point is 02:11:56 conduct with you no no I wish TC as citizens we could have given jeff yang a stern talking to at some points this week so out of contact defiling the golf course things of that nature little citizens arrest going on yeah that's good stuff uh yeah yeah well you go grab that candy bar oh he's already yeah he got one thing we I think we set up but we didn't really go around was the Rory total major. Hold on, hold on. Oh, okay. All right. No, no, no. You keep talking, Neil, hold on. Hold on. Deal just starts
Starting point is 02:12:28 put the candy bars about this. We've been building this up for three fucking days. What were you saying, Randy? I'm sorry. Well, we never quite, I don't think we quite expanded on how many majors we think Rory's going to win. T.C. said nine, which I would really like to put in, in ink,
Starting point is 02:12:44 somewhere. I think you said, I think the over under right now, seven and a half. I think so, too. I think, I think you're Which, real quick, I take the over. I think we might owe the great man Sevi. An apology as well. Like he just passed Sevy. Sevy had five, correct?
Starting point is 02:13:00 But also, is the measure of a man the amount of majors that he wins? Or is it, there's a lot of great man stuff during the Ryder Cup. And I'm not sure Rory has yet surpassed the great man Sevy. This is like one of those winners press conference questions. Do you see? What if you learn about life? He just breezed right past. He's like, yeah, I think, you know, Fado, obviously,
Starting point is 02:13:24 and this gets me into conversation with the other guys. But I think there's other variables in play here that aren't just majors. Other KPIs. Yeah. I agree with that. We might need to codify who is a great man. Yeah, I think. There's been a lot of inflation in the great man category.
Starting point is 02:13:43 I think just with the major question, though, just knowing that Augustus Rory's home course, we're going to have a lot of looks at it. it. I feel like if seven and a half is the line, I'm going, I'm going over. Two, I mean, it's been hard going to get like 11 years without winning. I know. It's not a guarantee. We're not going to get swept up. I think he can get two more though. I think. I think he can. I would say this. I feel as, I feel like the, the criteria of golf courses that I think he can win on is wider than it was like five years ago.
Starting point is 02:14:19 I wouldn't be afraid to do a U.S. Open with him like I have been in the past. Open championships, I would not be afraid. I just think his floor is so much higher. And I, yeah, I would be stunned if he's done. I would be absolutely stunned if he's done. And if we're saying he's probably got eight to nine to ten more decent-ish, not all prime years, but very strong competitive years left in his career, like two is very, very, very doable.
Starting point is 02:14:47 So I would say he gets to eight. we could go back in time and replay LACC. Right? Like current Rory wins LACC, right? Can Pinehurst, probably. Pinehurst is the one that's short ease he missed. I mean, good God. I'll,
Starting point is 02:15:01 just to bring the team average down, I'll say he wins one more. They're very, very, very, very, very, very hard to win. I think it's seven. You weren't in that press conference. Did, you didn't see how hungry he is. That's true. I don't want to see how hungry.
Starting point is 02:15:14 I need a candy bar. All right. Let's do it. Let's do it. This is the new candy bar at Augusta. this year. It's received pretty strange reviews. Just talk it out.
Starting point is 02:15:25 I put it in the fridge, so it's a little hard to chew. It is chocolatey. What other flavor profiles? It's got a little bit of crunch bar to it. Like a little crisp rice? I think the chocolate's a little too rich. They're asking for you to show the package.
Starting point is 02:15:45 The candy bar package. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, sure. No, I mean, I mean, it was sold out every day. Okay. It's a good. You can't get a bite down. You haven't got a bite down.
Starting point is 02:15:58 That's because it's cold. It's too chewy. It's chewy. It's always right. RX bar, chewy, which I don't like. Too much caramel or?
Starting point is 02:16:04 Yeah, I think so. Not a lot of like, still doesn't have a bite down yet. Any nougut? No, it's too much caramel, whatever.
Starting point is 02:16:15 It's like fudge, like coffee almost. It feels almost like coffee. And it's really. Rich chocolate. It feels like dark chocolate, which I'm more of a milk chocolate guy. So I would, you know, it's not bad. But I wouldn't say I'm going to. Do you want to? Do you want to? Yeah, I do want to. But it's not my favorite candy bar. It's definitely not my. It's not my style of candy bar. Randy is how I would phrase it. But is it bad. No, it's not bad. It's not bad. It's just rich. It's rich. It's very rich. More like like in the way that fudge is rich or toffee, you know, chew. like toffee, rich like fudge. That's what that's, I haven't had any fudge since we,
Starting point is 02:16:53 since we last foot on Macanah. Ludge stinks. Fudge stinks. Fudge is not bad. I'm going to push back there. Fudge is not bad. A mild tannins. A good,
Starting point is 02:17:04 a good fudge is nice. Neil, I think, I think that brings us to, you know, a question that, another question, along with the candy bar
Starting point is 02:17:14 that a lot of people are asking, which is you're, you're round of golf tomorrow. A couple questions. A, what time is your tea time? You're still chewing. Is that the same bite? Check and bite.
Starting point is 02:17:25 Keep asking questions. Okay. I mean, when Bobby Jones announced. Cody could run a giveaway. Well, he's a land in Georgia. Thank you, Salli.
Starting point is 02:17:35 Man, I just spent weight. Indeed. You just blocking me this whole time. We had 10,000 people in the live show. I'm excited to give more codes away. Scarcity. Hashtag Rory tonight.
Starting point is 02:17:47 I appreciate everybody coming through the live show. all week as usual. I'm going to give two coats away this evening. Yeah. Oh, I'm in there. I hope I win. First one, Jason, if that's your name, Jason Tor Torsock. 7709.
Starting point is 02:18:05 There you go. Congratulations. Let me copy that down before I forget it. Guy, I wish I would have like a hairy balsagna screen name that wins or something. I'm just seeing the replay of the trophy presentation here. The Riddler's hair just keeps getting better and better. It's good stuff. What a quoth.
Starting point is 02:18:28 Cody, go ahead. Good luck on this one, buddy. Keaton Skitland 2-27. Why everybody got their pin number in their user names? That's a YouTube thing. They add the numbers. Okay. Congratulations to all those guys.
Starting point is 02:18:42 Jason Keatlin. Go ahead. Send me an email at Cody. at nolayingup.com. I'll get you dialed. I appreciate it, Deach. Thanks, Cody. Neal, what time are you playing tomorrow? And as, as we said, upfront from our friends and titles presenting a sponsor of the show, what's in the bag tomorrow? What do you got? Sure. My tea times at 1230. I'm allowed on the property no earlier than in exactly 1130.
Starting point is 02:19:06 And I am allowed. I believe they have food there. I will be eating ahead of time so I can maximize my smart practice time. 1230 what's in the bag i got i got the gt3 in the bag uh it's set on 10 degree d1 uh make make sure you double check that i will uh with brooks that's a good call um i've got the t 200 4 iron t 155 through 9 and then i have sm 11's 44 degree 54 degree bent to 53 um sorry 48 degree 54 bent to 53 and then i have a new uh sm 11 58 i put a k grind in a little bit more bounce, which I'm excited about out there at Augusta National. I had a T-grind in, but I'm rolling with the K-grind.
Starting point is 02:19:54 I have a new grip on my putter that I'm very excited about. I re-gripped it myself. It is lined up. I did go to the range this morning. T.C. at a site. Forest Hills. Yeah, Forest Hills. T.C. had a tough one there in high school, high school state championship.
Starting point is 02:20:12 No, the qualifier for state championship, just the intra-team qualifier. Bottom line, I think if Augusta wants to do something really, really special post the patch, I think Forest Hills would be a good. There's a cool place. Awesome project. It's Donald Ross, except for the first four holes, which are like dog shit, Arnold Palmer stuff, because they sold off the first four holes. So Augusta University could have those.
Starting point is 02:20:35 But really, really good, like, good golf course that could be great. I have I'm actually I got you have to wear pants I have to have to So I got these knit pants I really like these from Footjoy You cannot wear five pocket pants
Starting point is 02:20:51 That was a that was a question asked In the in the pre-meeting So basically jeans People are like what is a five pocket pan It's kind of when they need They want the pockets on the side like trousers Right so the very specific about the type of Into it instead of outside
Starting point is 02:21:06 Yes they don't see any pocket holes I think is what we're going for. So I'm covered there. Shout out the knit pants. And then I got the quantums. Those are my golf shoe of choice. My shoe of choice for watching golf are the foot joy quantums. And so I'll be rocking those tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:21:23 So I'll be comfortable out there. But not as locked into the ground with those, Randy. So we were grooving this morning. We were grooving some second serves at the range. I'm trying to find that feel. Dege, I will report to you. I plan to hit a bad boy on number two. It's really see how we're doing.
Starting point is 02:21:42 I'm going to try to rip a driver around the corner on two. Do you have any Delta status that would keep me away from that counter? I've never been down there. I'd like to see it for myself if it's Jurassic Park or not. So we're going to try to send one on two and that'll set the tone for the day. I would give anything to be able to just follow you around tomorrow. I want to see this so badly. Just to confirm, they set you guys up at the member T's.
Starting point is 02:22:07 They do. yes okay uh so like 6, 400 about yeah yeah I'm gonna bully the golf course baby god you're gonna bring it to it's neat you might get an invite deal you play well enough you might get an invite next year you need a marker I won't you thinking about that come on boy you know you know where to find me god go get yourself I do guys I'm nervous I feel like I haven't felt this way since like night before football game yeah like doesn't feel like like I'm nervous more like oh my god I'm going to battle tomorrow more so than like oh my god I'm playing like a golf tournament it's like Oh, shit, man.
Starting point is 02:22:36 I was out there, like, seeing these pins. I was like, the pin on three. Are you serious? I'm going to be, I'm definitely going to be down by that scoreboard. Well, I have so many, so many questions. You know, one. Yeah, baby. We're going to bully the golf course, Randy.
Starting point is 02:22:51 We're going to do a whole episode about your round, just like we did with Solly. So look for that this week. So I'll save some of my questions for that. But I do want to know going in, have you kind of verbalized your mindset? Are you going out there? like in the back of your head are you like man it'd be fucking cool to shoot 71 or in the back of your head or you're like ah just be fun to have some bird make some birdies and have a have a good time
Starting point is 02:23:14 you know i'm kind of wired more like i want to go shoot 71 sure like and i i think i would regret if i was like oh man i'm just going to go have this like you know i want to try to hit cups i like keep you know i want yeah i'm trying to purchase like a tournament man now i'm going to play fast, but like, I want to, yeah, I want to go at it, man. Let's go. I get one shot at this. I want to see what I can shoot out there. You'll make like six birdies in a quad. Yeah, sign me up.
Starting point is 02:23:41 I mean, it would probably be like, you know, Randy, I'm going to try to hit cups, but like, it depends on who's in my group because I'm not going to be grind in on stuff. But I'm going to try to hit cups. I would say my literal advice would be the exact opposite of just like, don't, don't worry about your score. And like, don't. I don't care what your advice is. Well, I'm saying like, send it. Don't, yeah, send it. But like don't, don't worry about your score and like try as hard as you can to focus on enjoying every single shot and every single like moment of it.
Starting point is 02:24:08 And like it's not going about who cares. Like you're only going to get one shot to play the 12th. Sure. But I'm going into it thinking like, man, I'm going to try to build around. Okay. I'm going to try to like play good. That's what I'm going to try to do, DJ. I have to declare my intention.
Starting point is 02:24:20 Of course. I'm not going to go out there and be like, I mean, I can't wait to take pictures of this. No, not pictures. It's like, no, I'm going to go hit the shots. Yeah. And I went to that I was trying to make sure I want to find the fair way. Because usually I'm, I'm all right, man, if I'm in the fairway. I'm all right.
Starting point is 02:24:33 You said you're trying to bully the golf course too. So. Yeah, but like, and find the fairways. With, because I'm playing at 63, 6,600 yards, like, I do not have to muscle. I was trying to hit these like second serve cut. Like I very kind of, I mean, J.B. Holmesish. You know, like, it's not my favorite ball flight, but like, let's find. This doesn't sound like bullying the golf course.
Starting point is 02:24:56 It sounds like playing proper golf. Well, I don't have to hit driver everywhere. That's what I mean. I will be hitting driver a lot. Can I show you what I want to see tomorrow, Neil? I want to see this scorecard out there tomorrow. This would be a success, Cody. If we,
Starting point is 02:25:08 if we could see something like this. Alton Lee. Yeah. Hell yeah. I mean, what is that? One, two, three, four, five birdies, a 10. Massive strikes. Massive gutters.
Starting point is 02:25:20 Yes. This would be, this would be everything for me. Just an 80 that you could be proud of right here. Yeah, like I'm going to try to hit the shots. Like, obviously I'm going to try to hit the green on three with, with, you know, whatever I, driver, whatever the club, I don't know what the number is.
Starting point is 02:25:33 About 340, probably. Like, what am I going to go? What am I going to do on 12? I'm going at the stick, baby. Come on. Well, I think where I worry about you is like, like four, six. Sure. T.C., of course, of course.
Starting point is 02:25:49 Dege, maybe a bad boy on five again, you know? Go back to the well, see if we can take one over those bunkers. I don't know. How far's five play is it? It's, it wouldn't even need to hit a bad boy. over the bunkers there. Yeah, that's what I'm like. Yeah, it's like 410. Yeah. I can't wait. I can't wait. I got to stretch it out tonight. I got to get loose. Yeah, that's kind of on 15.
Starting point is 02:26:12 That would be great, T.C. That would set up really well if I could get up the right side on 15. And then, yeah, man, I'm going to, I'm like, I just want, I want to be in the fairway so I can hit the shots, you know, the approaches. That's, that's what I was thinking about today at the range. Like, you know, we're not going to be super tidy with the short game. So I'm going to focus there pre-round. I'm with that attitude. Yeah, exactly. You're coming off training camp, dog. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:34 That's true. I hit it pretty good this morning. You know, whatever. Come on. Great, great point from the commenters. You,
Starting point is 02:26:40 one time in your life, you versus Sticky Nadita. Yeah. Who's going to win? Who's going to win? Yeah. You fit your ass. I got that one circle.
Starting point is 02:26:48 We had that one circled all year, Dege. Like, Neil, even if the round goes off the rails, you still like, you got a battle waiting to you. Oh,
Starting point is 02:26:56 you know, I'm going to carry my bobslet. over the finish line. I'm not, I'm not quitting. Like, you're saying, like,
Starting point is 02:27:01 I'm not going to get a bad attitude. Like, if I make triple, you boys coming back. Like, I'm not going to, I'm going to have a good time for sure. But I have a good time when I'm,
Starting point is 02:27:10 when I'm in the, in the cauldron, baby. I love that shit. Yeah, mine was more, I got triple the first hole when I played. And like,
Starting point is 02:27:15 I could have let, you know, you could have been hang dog coming into that second hole. But it's like, no, I get one chance by the second hole. Come on. That's what you want to make triple.
Starting point is 02:27:23 Yeah. right? Exactly. I think we should do some man in the envelope stuff tonight. I think we should all lock in our predictions. We can reveal them on the podcast on Tuesday. I love that. Oh, what was the final?
Starting point is 02:27:35 Speaking of which, what was the finals of the? I don't think we have time for that, T. We do. I think it's time to wrap. 228. I think there's a long one. I won seven million bucks with Rory,
Starting point is 02:27:47 Cam Young, Max, Homa, Brooks, and Hadecki. Neil got second. Yeah. Scotty. Scottie, Russ. Henley, yeah. Nice go. Big Randy finished third with $2.25 million with Xander, Jake Naps, Bithin Fitzpatrick, and McNeely.
Starting point is 02:28:00 T.C. finished fourth with Team Rose. Ludwig, God, Ruff. Flashy Wide Boy, Big Shot Bob. DJ, $22,000. God, you got more today, D. Tommy Fleetwood and John, I'm only cutmakers. The K-shaped economy right there. That's tough for you, man. I think, guys, genuinely, I think this is the worst I've ever done in anything like this.
Starting point is 02:28:20 Anything. Anything. It's just, it's awful. awful awful it's like no way if I tried to do worse than that there's no way and you didn't even have speed on your team yeah I know I want it was like a pool next time to where like you got to pick an A player you got to pick I think it feels more natural than the like in more that's what threw me on that's less what are you talking about you set the rules I asked you about that no I don't remember that Cody you've not been playing fantasy leagues with this guy for a decade this is exactly how it goes
Starting point is 02:28:52 We change the rules when it's not going well. Neil, one more question for you, Neil. What are you going to do all morning? You can't get out there until 11.30. I was actually thinking about that on the drive home. I am going to stretch my nuts off. I'm going to stretch myself like a rubber band. Thank you, Dee.
Starting point is 02:29:10 Overstretched. The speed. Well, I need to get loose. And so maybe do a little session tonight. Don't pull something. No, I won't pull some. I got a whole routine. And then TC, I'm going to go get breakfast somewhere.
Starting point is 02:29:22 like, well, I'm going to eat before I get on site. I'm not wasting any time on food when I get there. Okay. And so I'm going to, I'm going to have a nice sit down somewhere. I don't know where yet, but I'm going to have a sit down somewhere on Washington Road. And then I'll probably go sit in the Christian bookstore parking lot. And I'm going to pull up. I might run a red light to get there right at 1130.
Starting point is 02:29:41 Maybe get T-boned on Washington Road. Hold! Oh, I mean, like, DJ, like, Whiplash when he's going to that music. Show he gets T-bone. when he rents the car grabs all his music up the street yeah yeah he'll be all bloody when i walk in i got two time man uh all right i don't want to tweak you out too much but just got to prep is you have you don't have to tell us what it is preferably don't tell us what it is you got a song picked out for for magnolia lane i was thinking about it based on the master's draft i'll tell you
Starting point is 02:30:12 well i'll tell you a couple options i was thinking about i was thinking about mars volta just a shout out to randy like getting hostile with his master's draft you know i thought that you know just get all hyped up i think about the strokes and shout out to to spieth uh you know like what you know a time and a place yeah um rush neal maybe some rush you know tom sawyer's always a good one yeah uh i can't come on it's got to be pig by dave going down the lane sure that'd be great that's a good suggestion that's a great suggestion no i'll uh i'll uh that that'll be personal dj i haven't made decision yet i'll let you know when i do and then i'll probably hit the quad city dj on the way out hit it's
Starting point is 02:30:50 Arvys and then head of the airport. A couple of suggestions are Mike Stone one week in April. It could be great. So many good options. Thank you, Arne. I kind of want to get like, frankly, I like that.
Starting point is 02:31:05 I kind of want to get turned up when I pull in. And be like, how you do it? Fantastic, baby. Turn it up. Maybe Ave Maria, Pavrati's Ave Maria. Turn it up. We want a little action in here.
Starting point is 02:31:17 Neil, hopefully you see Officer Watkins. Have you guys seen any of that action? Fowdows account this week. Of course. He's been great. Officer Watkins has been a true shining life, in my opinion. Is he work in Magnolia Lane? Oh, yeah. Okay. I'll look out for him in the morning.
Starting point is 02:31:34 Yeah. Hit up Fado's, Fado's Instagram account. He's done something with Officer Wockens the last like three or four days. It's been awesome. Okay. Guys, I think that's going to wrap it. I just, what a great week.
Starting point is 02:31:50 What a great week. Fun day. Congratulations to Rory. Congratulations to all of us for just getting through another big long week. Cody, we don't have to flash that draft graphic anymore. Thank you. Congratulations to Neil. Pre-congratulations. I cannot fucking wait to check my phone at about 5 p.m. tomorrow to see how this went. Actually, don't tell us. At least me. I'll be on the podcast on Tuesday. I don't want to know anything until we record. I think that'll be even better. But guys, these weeks are the absolute best. And it's very fun when the horses are doing horse things up on top of the leaderboard and making it really fun to tune in. So, yeah, as Dave in the comment says, enjoy the rest of that candy bar, Neil. And you guys got anything else? Thanks to Cody, running the ones and twos. Titleist for presenting the live shows, everyone that tunes in.
Starting point is 02:32:42 And everybody says hello on the grounds and everything makes this a really, really, really special week. It was, yeah, it's a really freaking cool blest. to get to do this as a job and to walk around Augusta National and yeah y'all mind if a white boy get a little sappy tonight it was really really freaking cool and it was an honor and uh very very very thankful to get to do this for a job so thanks to everyone don't forget please subscribe please yeah please subscribe cheers

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