No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1152: Cam Young rolls Miami, Nelly in Mexico + LIV News

Episode Date: May 4, 2026

Cameron Young blows out the field in Miami while Nelly Korda does the same in Mexico. Oh, and Blockie is back. Join us as we recap events across the globe. Plus a big week of news, notes, and what it all means. Presented by Titleist. FootJoy - #1 Shoe in Golf High Noon - Sun's Up! H&B - NLU10 at https://www.hbgolf.com Looking to travel this year, check out East Sands Golf Co.: https://www.eastsandsgolf.co/nlu Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf The NLU email newsletter: bi-monthly updates on all things NLU: https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/subscribe Join The No Laying Up Nest: https://nolayingup.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club. Be the right club today. Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up live show,

presented as always by our friends at Tidal Asa here. We got a full house tonight. Mr. Big Randy is here. Hello, Big. Hello, guys. Excited to be here. Neil Icarito Schuster is here. Hello, Neil.

Hell yeah, Big. Fire it up tonight. I'm doing fantastic. Let's get it on. TC is here. Hello, TC. Greetings, guys. Randy, I'm stoked. You got it done. Oh, out of band. I know we got a whole segment on that. I'll save some thoughts. A massive show tonight. We have a lot to discuss. Cameron Young wins the Cadillac Championship. Mikhail Lindbergh wins the Turkish Airlines Open. Nellikorto wins again. The Riviera and Maya Open. Marie Avery looking to go back to back on the Epson tour. They're on the back-9.

right now. Jesse Dromer wins a PJ Club Pro championship. Massive We can live golf news. There's some Rider Cup news. We had a lot to discuss today. But before we get to there, I want to remind you, NoLy Up Show. Here it brought to you by our friends at Footjoy, the number one shoe in golf,

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series was the best for his game. I can attest as his witness, a three and a half mile an hour ball speed gain in the Premier versus other shoes he had been wearing. So just picture seeing a game like that just by wearing the right golf shoe for your show. And Sally, I will say the 2026, the new premieres, they're like 30% lighter. The tongue is very beefed up. They just have a lot more structure there. that they're, they're, it's a mass,

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So check out the full line of Footjoy shoes, including the new premiere series at Footjoy.com. Guys, Cadillac Championship was not the greatest golf tournament I've ever seen, but if you don't mind,

I'm going to go quickly remind you of what went down this week. Cameron Young took a six shot lead into the final round over Scotty Sheffler, Siwu Kim and Christopher. I've now heard right hand. I've heard Rayton.

I've heard a lot of things now and I do not. Among us. I do not know how to pronounce it. I was so committed to right hand. It was super easy to remember. It was like right hand. And I've, that's how it's been.

And now all of a sudden all the CBS guys are calling him Rayton. Is PJTor bio page has rating? I'm just going to apologize ahead and advance on that one. But anyways, probably the bigger story here. Cameron Young, tea times got moved up Sunday because of weather. They got delayed a little bit, ball in hand,

whatnot. The most dramatic thing, maybe the day Cameroon called a penalty on himself in the second fairway, when his ball moved after he addressed it, still went on to make par, actually increased his lead shortly after that, up to seven shots with birdies on three and five. He burdied the eighth hold. He got to 18 under. He birdied, then maybe he's on 12, 15, and 16, got all the way to 19 under par. Would win the tournament by six shots over Scotty Schaeffler.

Incredible, those two going head to head here. But I know Cody is celebrating behind the scenes. here guys. Is there a world we ever pictured this level of success for Cameron Young? Yes, his rookie year when he was like top 10 and nine straight events including the masters at Riv, like he busted onto the scene.

And then he, you know, he struggled. He couldn't win. And I was, I was thinking about it today. You compare that to say like Tom Kim, who comes out and flashes, your boy, T's, uh, Sali. And then now he struggles. Like, what would you rather have? Would you rather like, earn it the way Cam Young, like learn how to win over the course of like two, three years or get the, you know, I don't know, come out swinging and then struggle after that.

I kind of like the journey that Cam Young's been on. But I think to answer your question, I remember thinking this guy is like next when he was a rookie. And then he kind of fell off the map. So that's my answer. He fell down to like over 150th in the day of golf rankings. he was in qualifying for the U.S. Open last year and has been five-way playoff. He's been the second best player in the world since he switched golf balls in August, won his first championship at the wind of now.

This is his third title. And just won by six. It just honestly, of some of this today, I know this is not a good analogy, but kind of, what came to mind was Tiger when he switched golf balls before everybody else did in 2000, and was just blowing fields away.

That's kind of what today felt like of just like, do this guy looks like he's playing a completely different game we've seen what scotty shuffler has done in professional golf over the last three years four years whatever you want to call it and he just dusted him like it was nothing this would have been another scotty win had it not been for cameron just completely uh completely dusting the field i saw a ton of potential on him i did not see this ceiling i didn't think he'd be a good enough putter uh he had a lot of trouble closing out tournaments in the early part of his his career he's always a big big hitter but i didn't know the iron play could be this good uh i'll ask this question next it you know cameron young is the blank

best player in the world and i'm going to ask you guys to fill in the blank on that one tc i'm going to start with you is the blank best player is the own liking it is not fedora five it's you can be the best golfers in the world according to fedora five he's the fourth best golfer in the world right now which i mean really fifth if we're if we're talking about the fitzpatrick brothers but no i i think uh i think uh i think I think he's the third best golfer in the world right now. Neil? Third was going to be my answer as well.

I would take him over John Rob and Bryson right now. Randy? I have it at four. I have Rory, Scottie. And I'm sticking with Matt Fitzpatrick. Yeah, Randy. I knew it. I love it.

I think Cameron Young's the second best player in the world right now. Ahead of Rory? I put him ahead of Rory. And I know Rory just won the Masters. I know all that. That's fine. Rory cheated. He had all the master the visits ahead to Augusta.

You know, that's the only reason he won the Master's. Like his home course. We learned that on ESPN. We learned that. Had an unfair advantage in that one. No, I mean, I look at what this guy has done over the last.

It's like a nine month period. This is not a short time period. And he's taken just completely extra leap this year. And I think he's the second best player in the world right now. And I'm not. positive he won't be number one and i'm fine to get i'm usually the one preaching patience in these nights of like let's not get caught up let's not you know award him a bunch of stuff but i don't i'm not i do not think he's done i think this is not a fluke and i'm just so impressed with what he's doing

right now man you're willing to say that with with no major i know i know that's a little early for me it's not it's not he's not accomplished the the second now if the data is is spitting stuff out sallie's in sallie's in it's in it's it's You know, I do want to say, I thought it was such an awesome juxtaposition on 18T. Scotty, you know, he has these moments where he hit that thing like 50 yards right off 18T. And his follow through, you're like, God, that's the number one player in the world. Like that's what it looks like, you know. And that Cam, Cam looks like it.

Right. Like I don't, I, you know, I don't think we, the four of us have talked about what an impressive move he puts on it. the pause at the top, the way he can load and just time it up and just swing that freely and hit that kind of draw with water up the left, both here at the Rale and then also at the players. It was like almost the same type of swing on 18, not as much pressure here, obviously, he's up by six, but I just find his golf swing mesmerizing. And I find Scotty's like fascinating, but it's not like, you know, what you look up in 50

years in the dictionary like show me pro golf swing it's not really scotty sheffler swing and sometimes you see a miss you're like oh my god and then swiggled 18 like a seizure through like this keyhole gap in the trees hits the green makes par you know it's like okay that's why you're with the hazard left yeah i i just found that that specific moment is such a good juxtaposition of like like cam is the five tool like can't miss prospect and scottie's just like this magician um and so that's what's beautiful because it's like they're both yeah i mean obviously scotty's better but uh cam looks the part let me put it that way real quick if we're being like i think if you're gonna make an argument for cam to be the second best player in the world right now is it rory cam and then scotty

at the moment i just don't think you can have cam ahead of rory i agree with that tc like we just saw him in the biggest stage in golf and and i get it and it was a duel between win the two of them. And he took him down. And Scottie, Scottie keeps finishing top three, top four this year. But, you know, hasn't won since the desert at an AMX?

The last time, Randy, they were involved in a massive tournament, the players together. Cam won that battle. And I get to the Masters is a bigger deal than the players is. But I think he's the second best golfer in the world right now. I think he would,

and he has been from a stroke's game perspective by far ahead of Rory over the last, basically since he switched the golf ball. is in August. Like over the last nine months, eight months, I guess it would be. He's been decidedly the second best player in the world. Like, and it's, it's, it's, it's not really even that close.

Rom would be third if you looked at that and strokes gained over the last, that time period. But that's not what we're looking at, though. We're not looking at that. But, uh, yeah, I, I, I, I, I don't think this is the case, but I don't think, he won't be longer than the third favorite at erronomic, right?

And I have not looked at PJ Championship odds as I asked that question. I think it'll be Scotty, Rory, and then Young will be the top three favorites. I have to think at Aronimic, maybe Bryson's tied with him. Would you guys guess? Is that feel right? Yeah. Cam's great. Don't get me wrong.

I just was a little hung up on, I just don't think he can put Rory behind him right now. But, you know, you do you. Let me ask you this for the group, like 28 years old, Neil mentioned, you know, did not come out and set the world on fire on the PJ tour. Like, what is this reminiscent of? I was trying to think this afternoon, like, what, just trying to kind of place some historical context or a nice comparison. And I'm struggling with this nine-month run of Cam Young.

And, you know, when have we seen something like this before? Can I just, before you do that, I guess what I was trying to say is he kind of did, he got a lot of attention. He didn't set the world on fire, but I remember it being like, oh, whoa, who is this guy? Like, it was an immediate, I thought Cam Young made a big first impression

his rookie year. And it was, oh, it's a matter of time before this guy's, you know, he's second at Rive. I just remember him bawling out all through that West Coast swing into the Masters. Was that 21 or 22? I can't remember what year it was. He was in contentioned at the PGA

at Southern Hills. I remember that. That was kind of a, that was in the middle of a really good run for him. I can let you know. So anyway, Granny, question. I just wanted to kind of correct that because

I thought he made a splash, but you're right, he did not set the world on fire. But I remember being like this guy, yeah, loud traits, as you like to say. Loud traits. But obviously not winning. Yeah. Yeah, he was T3 at the PGA that year. He had a T2 at

Wells Fargo, had a T3 at RBC Heritage. He had a T2 at Genesis that year. And then was runner up on his own at the Open Championship to Camp Smith after Eagle in the last hole finished T2. and his next start at the rocket mortgage as well, just could not get over the hump.

And the putting's been way better. Everything's been better. It's just a, it's kind of a post-high sleeper move. I saw this, Randy, and I don't know who to credit with this one, but I saw a Duval comparison. And I haven't put enough thought into that exactly. Is Duval like one those four kind of right in a row there? And I don't know how old Duval was when he did that,

but he wasn't like fresh out of college. young gun, right? Because it's a little post type sleeper or post type bounce back almost from Cam because he was really good, not winning a lot. Then he was not that good and definitely not winning a lot. And now has just entered a stratosphere that I would not have been picturing a year ago at this moment. Other than what? Do you want to get in here and circle the wagons with this, Cody? Will you back me up on this leap I'm making here? I'm sticking my neck out. Crazy. Crazy. I mean, this goes back to last year. So I wouldn't even put him on the team for so long. Now he's trying to recruit me.

This is good call, Cody. Check the tape on that one. There is a lot of all-fault talk here, but it truly goes back to the putting. Him and his dad figured something out, and it just completely changed his game. Neil, you're right. I agree with you. 22 was incredible. The only thing that we're like kind of missing now that I desperately miss is like a healthy Will Zaltaurus out there doing crazy shit too. Took the words out of my mouth.

That we would be like pre-exam. emo time. But the thing about Cam is that he just has very loud traits. The swing is stunning. The power is incredible. And now you match it up with putting and confidence. And it's like, man, I'm right there with with you. Even though he is by far my favorite golfer on the PGA tour, he's number three on the list still. And it's just hard to look past Aurora and Scotty right now. And that's just kind of where I'm at. You can't put him ahead of Rory after what he did at the Masters. I mean, as a guy that, you know, called that penalty on himself on the second, I bet if you ask him, he'd say the same thing.

I think he'd probably describe what he actually did, Sully. Yeah, so he addressed his lift clean in place today. He puts his ball up on the T, as he described to the rules official there. But set the club down, went to go take a swing or went to go take it back, and the ball moved some. He stopped his swing. You couldn't really see it on camera, calls the rules official. in and says what happened, you know, the ball moved. I can't say for sure whether or not I

moved it, but I was touching the ground and it fell forward. I had it teed up pretty good, ultimately conclude that, yes, he did cause that to move. I had to put the ball back and then assess himself a one-shot penalty. He goes on to make par anyways during the putt on the green after hitting the green. But that was kind of a little bit of drama early on, but he kind of took the drama out by making the par anyways. But it's what, I mean, you kind of brush past it because it didn't really end up mattering, but I'm just like, I feel like we, we, we tried to address this rule and I feel like the intent base of the new rule system should have a little more coverage here. And if you're moving it back to the spot that it was in, I don't get why

there's a penalty still the way that it's written. And it's still a lot to ask of like, did you cause it to move? What's like, when this happens on the green and greens are 14 on the stamp, just tapping the ground right behind it, cause it to move, is that really your fault? and that's really got to be a penalty is, and maybe it's different on the green. We're venturing into the uncharted, into territory we're not supposed to be in, me and Neil especially.

I was going to say, we need to ask, Neil, yeah. Neil, well, I was going to ask, like,

then is it different on the T-box? Like when Zach Johnson hit it off the T-marker at Augusta. That's not in play yet. Not in play. Okay. So, yeah,

it's just like there's all these technicalities, man. stinks. And then it looked like they went to replay on this one. Like, he, you know, called the rules official over.

And then, And then you bring like the slow-mo camera. It's like, well, that's, like, what are we doing here? What are we doing? Sleepy tournament, Neil. They're looking for any sort of juice they possibly get. I guess, man. Anyone on Bermuda.

I will, like that, that impresses me as much as anything about this week. It's a tough golf course. It's, you know, Dick Wilson, not my favorite. It's not my cup of tea down there as far as the, just the test of golf that it is. but you got to hit your irons really well you got to read grain like there's a lot of grain I just crack me up like when I I ran there and I came back I think it was I don't know which is a short part for over like 300 yards of water 16 16 yeah and they're like they're showing the fly over this hole and I'm like oh my god there's bunkers everywhere of water like yeah

this plan is the easiest hole on the court it it looks so scary and it's just like no big deal. Oh, what have I just fly it over all of that? They're all just taking drive into the Greenside bunker. It was, that really made me laugh. This week is, is a look into how much golf has changed. And it's been, what, 12 years since we've seen it on the PJ tour or something around then.

And I know Liv was there. I can't pretend to have watched that. But I was there, Sally. Yeah, I know you were. What do you want to know? How much golf, like how much better like everybody is at golf this year? And how wind lied down for just, it was windy a little bit on Saturday, but the wind lied down a little bit and everybody just went out.

and started making birdies all over again on the 7,800-yard golf course and just making what was supposed to be the challenges in their way, just non-factors for the most of the field. What, Sally, real quick, the PGA championship odds as they stand right now, Scotty plus 350, Rory plus 650, ROM and Bryson plus 1,200, CAM plus 1,400, Zander plus 1,700, it fits Patrick plus 1,800.

You might put a few nuggies on the theft plus 1,400 right now while it's still there. You asked about comp for Andy. One thing that I did think of today, though, is in a much smaller time period. It kind of feels like 2024 Zander to me of I don't know if this leap is going to be three years long, but it is, it's decided. It is clear and it is a different level that this player has reached. And I don't know how long it's going to last. but like,

Xander was pretty clear the second best player in the world in 2024 and maybe I'm a bit premature in saying that about Cam, but I feel like he's going to be there if he's not already there. Can I give you one other comp that I was thinking of as Jason Day? Kind of well-rounded game came, you know,

I remember him catching my attention early on in his career. And then kind of just bummed, I don't want to say bummed around, but didn't really get, I feel like I picked him to win the math. like four years in a row didn't do it still hasn't won the masters this year too right yeah no this year no this year I didn't I didn't get sucked in Randy and then and then he becomes number one player in the world you know when's the PGA kind of later on in his career he kind of got settled and uh

I would say had that later uh breakthrough he had that real nice as I'm looking that he won in 2014 he won in 2010 and then he won in 2014 but then he had monster 2015 and carried it over a little bit the next year, won the players in 16. I just remember being impressed by Jason Day's, like, power and golf swing, but also just the well-rounded putting. It was like, oh, man, this guy can putt it like that,

you know, just kind of really polished and, I don't know, like elegant looking golf swing. Respectfully, Neil. We want none of that bad juju over here. Jason Day always injured. The wrist cams always got. taste brisk going on we don't want any of the back vertigo you guys remember vertigo ral and chalzin do on none of that god that some electric moments with the vertigo i mean you

take the major though cody wouldn't you we would yeah we would but if uh please i think there's got to be somebody else out there all about day when like he won like five out of 12 starts at one point or six out of 13 or something like that so i i think you you'll take the the golf success uh of jason Dave, even if it comes with a blow bit of injuries. But that 2015, that's a good call. He was, he was, what, 28-ish years old? We're fishing in similar ponds, Neil. I actually had another guy that's won 13 times on the PGA tour with one major,

coincidentally, just like Jason Day, did not win until he was 29 after flashing early. He's a great man. Justin Rose? Justin Rose. I know their games aren't all that similar, but just a little bit. career arc, you know, I don't know. Real quick, Team Rose's great man status might be in doubt right now. We should talk about that.

He shot up the board today, T-C. T-65 now with a final round 68. So, absolutely shuffled. Is that his iron numbers weren't good this week? It weren't. It was tough. Just like a vanity. I have Hanma, you know, flashbacks. Yeah.

What are we doing? If you don't know the news, Justin Rose switched to McLaren, a new golf brand owned by the McLaren same people focused on the McLaren F1 team which in my head I was like a long way to go he may do great with this but I was like no way he makes the same mistake twice he must know exactly what he's doing here and that's just not a great start to it I'm not willing to we're not going to dance on this grave just yet but just it seems like a tough time a year to do it too yeah you got two majors upcoming in the next what six weeks it's like homie you could have just done the live thing we've been celebrating for four

years how you didn't go to live it's like man you could have just done that and kept your golf clubs but yeah maybe it works out great who am i to say we we we don't know but um a lot to discuss here from the Cadillac still but guys I've been looking forward to this one I really have I've been waiting for these to show up they've showed up at my door if you haven't noticed a little purple band around the top of the fresh delivery high noon I wait until show time to have one today. It was a perfect day for an outdoor transfusion, but I did not get one. They have brought the number one golf drink to their vodka vodka seltzer lineup, and that is the transfusion. You can get it now, but not for a long time since they only dropped

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Kind of grape forward and then some ginger and. But it's not. heavy stuff on the back and yeah it's not heavy yeah that's nice here for a good time not a long time people come on make them up get out there check it out high noon thank you to them for supporting our shows as always guys what what was what was this event what were we doing here this was this was tough uh zero crowds out there for the most part zero energy nance and trevor were doing their best to build a little excitement in i know the six shot lead didn't help any of it What happened here? Who's to blame?

What are we doing? I think this event has five more, four more years in the contract, I think. And I guess, I don't know, it kind of makes me want to ask a lot of questions as to what makes a signature event, what makes a good tournament here. But what was the issue with this? TCL, start with you. Does the tour have a problem here with the commitment they've made to this venue and this event? I mean, it depends on what they're trying to get out of it, right? I don't, I don't know.

I mean, I don't know if it was smart. for them to go up against the F1 race in Miami this weekend? Like that's one thing right there. There was storms going on. I don't think attendance was ever great for the Durale event. Like it never seemed like it was

when it was the WGC and all of that. It never seemed like it was all that well supported to begin with. South Florida is just kind of a different animal. And then it makes you wonder too a little bit. I think there's a lot of credence to the concerns people have about the various quote unquote big markets that Rollap has espoused that, you know, that has basically said,

hey, we want to go to these big markets. We want to. And I think there is something to be said for certain places that don't get a bunch of big events, you know, across the sporting landscape, really turning out and showing out for, you know, the PGA tour when it comes to town. and I don't think anybody batten an eye in South Florida. Casey, we were talking about that. We were all together on a trip.

And so I know you and I were talking about it, but I've been thinking about that big market, small market, that big market comment from Rollap at the Players Press Conference. I'm like, man, I think that might not be, that might be true for other sports, but for golf, you might want to be the big fish in the little pond. And big markets do matter, but they matter for the PGA championship.

or maybe there are tournaments that could float around to come to a big market so it's special once every four years or whatever similar to how BMW does it. But I'm just not sure like on paper and are in a spreadsheet the big market like argument looks obvious. But it's like, man, this is a great example of. And again, I picked a weird week to circle back to Florida with the F1 race. Like all, there's a lot of, you know, variables here. But I just don't know if you're ever really going to be like a big deal in a place like

Miami for or if you're going to go to somewhere like that you better do a damn good job at marketing it and turning it into a full on experience because last year I went to the live Miami event on Sunday this didn't look any like honestly this looked less smart like more sparsely attendant than then then the live event based on everything I saw and they didn't have the Cleaks garden I feel like the live event might play better in Miami than a PG8 world like like concert music you know Maybe like a little Bitcoin activation, you know, all kinds of stuff going on at the live event. Don't turn me into a live fan here, Neil.

We got some bad news this week on the live front. But it made me like do a lot of thinking on on what what the future of this structure is going to look like. And that's where I like looked up the contract. I'm like, wait a second, here. How committed are they to making this happen? Because the signature events started. The signature events have been a success, I think overall. I think that's clear.

It's helped retain talent on the PGA tour, help the tour win the war. It helped ratings, and it's clearly better than like the old flat setup of PGA tour events. But like they haven't, I don't think they've gone far enough with it. Like, how can you, I just don't know how you call an event, a signature event or an elevated event or whatever you want to call it and have guys like voluntarily skip it as many guys did as this one. Like you're just kind of, you're, you're kind of getting the worst of both worlds of like trying to say a certain event is elevated, which the whole point of that was you get everyone together or almost everyone together. And I know that's not technically the rule. but you can't just slap that on there and then have a bunch of guys miss and pretend like it's the same as, you know, another real serious elevated big event.

And I don't know. It's got a, I just don't know if they need as many of these as they're saying they're going to have either. And they got to get, I don't know how you're going to do this. Have, have as many as this as Rob says there's going to be and have them fall in the right way that it fits all the top guys schedules of do guys want to play the week after a major. Do they want to play before? They definitely don't want to play the two weeks, both of the two weeks leading up into a major. I just don't know why they needed to jam a second one in here. I know the money came about from Cadillac and they're not going to turn away $20 million

bucks from a sponsor right now. But hopefully this was a bit of a wake-up call to say, like, you can't, you're not going to be able to just slap a name on some of these events and had that resonate with fans. The money, the cash is going to, the check's going to cash. Players are going to get paid, but that does not mean it's going to resonate with people. Which I think that's where you got to give probably the spot that you got to give them the most leeway on roll app that is is fixing the incentive model. Right. And he said, hey, like, we're going to make it so that it's going to hurt if these guys do want to skip one of the big time

events because it sucks. Like, you know, to your point, I think we'll have three signature events in a row where Scotty, you know, like there's no Scotty or, or like it's, it's kind of one or the other based on how it's worked. And, you know, guys have said, like, I only want to play 18 to 20 times a year, not 24 to 26 times a year, which is what the new model. One other thing I'd add here, the signature model elevated like RIV and heritage and places that had some context. This is the first time they just parachuted in them.

We're like, yo, check it out. New event. It didn't have a sponsor. It's just Miami for, what, up until like the beginning of the year? I feel like I kept seeing just my hold like hold for potential title sponsor. That you can't just invent that. I mean, at least there's, you know, I'm always like, I was Heritage a signature event.

And then I watch it. I'm like, yeah, this is sweet. It's awesome to watch all these guys play there. This one's like, what? You know, this felt it feels more like an exhibition. It stunk as a WGC. It stunk as the Ford Championship. I was getting WGC flashbacks this week, man, honestly.

I'm just like, I don't. You got guys 25 shots. off the pace, like no cut. It's like, like, will you please cut these guys? We're falling into old bad habits, PJ, Tor. You know, we're following back, you know, we said we were going to do that anymore.

I know, let me just, I'll just have one more. It's no big deal. And I'm going to keep harping on this because I feel like this should be a bigger discussion topic. I still just, the fact that, again, this isn't going to ladder up to anything where there should be a really cool race for some of the top seeds if this thing ended

in a play playoff, like in a match play playoff bracket like it should but like finishing third is going to mean the same as finishing 20th other you know other than the payout you get at the end of the regular season it's going to be the same when you get at the tour championship and none of this like the jockeying between cam and scotty and fitzpatrick around the tops like should be interesting right now and it's just not going to be and they got to solve that part of it because then if the event the event is going to stink like at least there's like a little bit of incentive in there in the season long race and they took that from like a three out of ten down to a one out of ten

with the new system. And I hate every bit of it. It's got to change. Hey, can we just, you know, throwing some stuff against the wall real quick. T.C.'s talking about incentive structures. You want to get these guys playing back to back. They should have some kind of like accelerator or

like heat check where it's like, all right, if you're coming off a big win but you want to take a week off, it's like, don't do that because you could dump, we could splash the pot. Yeah, yeah, throw them on tilt. Exactly. Like throughout the season. It's like, Oh, well, but now you just trippled your money, so don't take a week off, you know, and just see like if a guy will keep, you know, keep coming to the table like that.

I don't know. If you want the season long stuff to matter, maybe there's something to, some type of tilt situation. I like that. It's kind of like double, you know, triple jeopardy where it's like, hey. Like Fitzpatrick, keep it up, baby, you know. Yeah. Let's name your, how much are you willing to wager here?

Yeah. You know, we'll. And then it's like, well, he might be stealing it from, you know, well, that money's coming out of everybody else's, you know, the purse. Like, he's just sucking the money up to the winner. And so then they're all like, oh, we got to beat this guy. You know what I mean? They could create some, some drama. Anyway, I'm going to say.

And I know you guys are kind of working on a future schedule reimagined episode. Randy, we've been working on, you know, reimagining the future schedule since 2018. Right. My only, like, as a fan, we just can't go back to Florida. We left Florida behind us. We, like, once we hit Augusta, we're not going back to Florida. We don't want to see, like, lots of ponds and lakes and Florida golf. I think this event, they just wanted to get it going.

And I have to think it's bumped up into March, right? I don't know if it's like this and Bay Hill leading into the players, but it is just wildly miscast. here. And May in Miami, like, you're going to a big market where the winter, people are outside all winter. You know, it's not like people are starved to get out in the nice weather in Miami, which I think is like a different consideration when you talk about some other big markets where it's like, hey, everybody's been inside. The weather's just starting to get good. Let's go out and watch golf. You never have that in Miami. So I would suspect this is, they're going to do something

drastic with like the timing and placement of this event. I think you're right, Randy. And I think that I don't want to go back to this golf course and I don't want to do this again. But if they were to two weeks before the masters would make sense, like two weeks after the players and two weeks before the masters, we'd kind of circle that as like that's probably a prime spot for a signature event in 2028, probably maybe even 2027. That would make more sense than this with this just sprint up to the PGA that is clearly

not working and you have guys skipping. This this can't work. PG tour is not out of the wood. yet with all this stuff. It sounds like Liv's going to go away, but you still got to nail this structure. And I know we're trying. Right back where we started.

I know. And that's not what we're going for you. And I don't think that's where they're going to end up. I think these are serious people that are going to do some serious things. But we got to call it when we see it. Like, that wasn't it. All right. And they can't be like that.

I hate to hear that for the kids, the kids in Houston, So I just just, just hating the children's model. I will say this. You led this section with we can't turn down Cadillac money. Well, why can't we? Because the PGA Tour just got a massive infusion of cash. I don't think this, I know we probably don't want to go down this route, but I don't think we have this tournament on this, on the schedule because of,

because of the money, I think it happens to be a lot with who the host of the tournament is. And that's something that the PGA Tour needs to wrestle and figure out where they're actually at. Which perhaps we can go to TPC. East Potomac. Yeah, TPC East Potomac in the future for that. Because we'll get to that. Fuck that.

Cody, I hear what you're saying. It was like, I think we just need to make this happen this year. It doesn't really matter where. And then let's figure it out once we kind of shuffle everything up after this year. And I would say, Cody, in a single year, the 20 million bucks or whatever it costs Cadillac is not a big deal, not what they're looking for. But if you've got somebody right now coming to you wants to sign a long-term deal in the hundreds of millions to sponsor your signature event series, I don't think they're

overflowing on those currently. And that's the stuff that like helps them model out, make this model look sustainable and not have to pull on the $1.5 billion that they haven't touched still to this point. There's got to be, you know, there's smart people in there, though. You got to understand when you when you stack all these events up against that, something is being devalued. For sure. I totally agree. You know, the talent cannot play four or five weeks in a row.

We know that. So they're devaluing either this event, which I don't know what they came on board or what guarantees they're made or truess. Somebody who's been in the bucket, maybe not that company themselves, but a long-term Charlotte event there. It's just weird how you rack and stack and then when you couch it as like you can't turn down that money. what we've been told over the last two years

that the money is not the issue. It's always nice to have more of it, but they're swimming in it. So why would they go, I guess at the lengths to like potentially mess up their calendar unless they truly just have no clue what the calendar is going to shake out to be? That's good point.

One thing I'd add to that, Cody, is it does feel like on the spreadsheet, if you're lining these up on the spreadsheet, you see like masters, it's like, all right, that's the starting gun. let's let's all these are these are big weeks through here and it's like oh man they all just start to uh yeah it's just like too much you got you got to like let the you know you go hair you're gonna hit me with a heritage signature and then it's like oh my like there's no

place to get it for anybody to like miss golf at all you know meanwhile you've got all these april's like other than what september um the best sports month on the calendar i mean NBA playoffs are heating up hockey's baseball's back and kind of in the swing of things. It just feels like a, and then the PJ is looking at it like, oh, no, this is like, this is peak golf season. Everyone's all jacked up after the Masters. But really, on the spreadsheet, it looks that way.

But really it's like, no, everyone's having like a letdown after the Masters. It's like, oh, man, I need like, I need to step away for a minute. At least maybe that's how I feel. I don't know. Going back to Cadillac, I also got the sense that Cadillac, Cadillac didn't, like, they weren't trying to put up this money. they were basically told to you guys have to put up this money so it's you know it just seems like there's a lot of parties here that aren't necessarily doing this by you know of their own volition

right and cody they might be swimming in cash but they are like cap capiluah got cut from the count of the schedule because the sponsor wasn't like in part for a lot of reasons but in part the sponsor wasn't putting up the full amount of the purse like they were signed on for 15 million and the purse was 20 million it became uneconomical to continue to that have that tournament. Like they they this group still has to play by like financial rules that live was not probably more than ever. Yeah. Like you still got to build a model that is sustainable and they're priding themselves on not touching this 1.5 billion. I can't tell you the exact reason why other than it's not a pile of money for them to just burn through like the expectations here are obviously that

they have to have a business that's it's going to the dollars that need to make sense. Uh, despite you know, some what you may read on the everything app and that's so it. that might lead to some things we really don't like. You know, I have a lot of faith in roll up, and I like a lot of things what he's had to say, but it doesn't mean everything's going to go great. When you say it like that, Sallie,

we traded Cabalua for, for Dural. It's like, you know, and like a worst spot on the count, like I'm dying to watch golf in January. I don't really feel like watching golf today. You know what I mean?

That's like, that's a tough trade when you phrase it that way. And I know they're like, I imagine the 28th schedule is going to, is either going to have something ongoing in Denver or they're going to, like, they really want to get to Nashville. They're dying to get to Nashville. So hot right now.

So, we're going to get some markets that may not be courses that we like, but they're going to be markets that they want to go to hell or high water. Yeah. You want to go down the board a little bit, T.C.? Yeah, there's not that much to go down. We don't, first of all, we don't have a new Fedora 5 tonight. I'm catching some flack from the guys for it. You know, just to rehash,

we've got the Fitzpatrick brothers, Jackson Coyvin, who's getting a lot of, you know, a lot of chatter out there. Like, will Jackson Coyven be on the Ryder Cup team next year? Listen, will he first? I think he will. I think you should be on the president's cup team this coming year just to get him some experience.

Rory was third, Cam Young was fourth, he was fifth, no change this week. We will account for this, for these performances from this week in the next iteration of the Fedora 5. T.C., I have a question.

Yes. Is the Fedora 5 co-ed or is it? I don't know, Randy. That's a tough question. I've been told that... Because it should be, T.C. If you go broke, and Lauren Coglin got really upset with me that she didn't make the Fedora 5.

After Vegas. Just like a women's Fidora 5. Yeah, yeah, I know. Like the TGL. Exactly. Yeah, but no, like, we should integrate the ladies into the Fodora 5. It's just, it's tricky. We're not doing it.

Sure. Should do it. I just thought, you know, maybe, I know we're going to talk about Nellie in a bit, but that would be the only, just maybe T.C. Maybe. Anyway, back to the task at hand, going down the leaderboard. Good week for Ben Griffin. Yeah, I'd like to, I'd like to issue a Mayacolpa.

I just got to dance on his grave a little bit, pre-masters. And Betty Boobs is back. You know, he's had a few good showings here the last two or three weeks. Pretty much on the same pace as last year. Like kind of started slow. Same time in the calendar. Yeah. Yeah.

So, you know, really solid week, 68, 68 in the weekend. Adam Scott, 66, 64 on the weekend to finish T4, overcomes an opening around 76. six. It was him up to 16th in the all important FedEx Cup standings. Ryder Cup lock, Sep Straka, 68, 66 on the weekend, T4. Siwu, if you would have putted a little bit better, I think he's probably sniffing around a little bit more. He's also T4. Alex Smalley. He might become Sioux if he putted a little bit better, Kim.

Might be his full, his full name. We got a troika of Alex is next on the board. Norin, Alex Smalley, Alex Fitzpatrick. Alex Fitzpatrick. Sheesh. Good follow up, brother. Epic driver off the deck this week, too. But yeah, I'm sure the mules are just incensed right now.

He's up to 39th in the FedEx Cup now. And, yeah, and Smalley, you know, props to Smalley. I think Smalley is going to win this year. I think he is. Right, right. And it'll be a fantastic family affair, I'm sure. Can I just say I think Zurich is coming out as a winner of the last two or three years just by just by being different like you know, do I need to watch the Zurich? No, but like this is this is great.

It's like how Alex, it's Patrick come on through brother, you know, partner event. That's that's good stuff. Uh, good week for Matt McCarty. He moves up to 31st in the all important FedEx Cup. Lucas Glover. I had to look and see he finished top 50 last year. Thanks cup. That's what gets him into the signature events.

Uh, he moves up. moves from 147th to 109th with this T-14 finish. Right-hand, kind of a tough, tough Sunday. A couple doubles, bogey to par five, shoots 73, but still a productive week for him. Jordan Speath. So, you know, he kind of just speithian performance, trying to get up and down from everywhere,

especially on Saturday. Got off to a good start, 65 and just 75 on Saturday. So T-18 for him. I'd fallen up 65 with three rounds in the 70s. Just doesn't look good on the board here, guys. So close, though. He's got to you. He lost almost six shots approaching the green over the weekend.

I love that he's a left dash guy like me now, though. That's exciting. Yeah, they put a new golf ball in play. It's pretty volatile. Like, you look at this board and, like, most guys had a round or two above par. Like, you know, shot 68, 75. 70, you know, stuff like that. So, um, oh, we got Michael Kim, Tommy.

Justin Thomas played, played all right. Stinky stuff from Tommy T.C. I just, when are we going to, when are we going to college that before we get concerned with Tommy in the, he's 70, 77. The question. The question was when are we going to get concerned? Well, we're not going to get concerned anytime soon. Like if he, if he, if he no shows at a Ronoink and Shinnecock, yeah, we're concerned.

He's the raining. domestic champion golfer of the year. So, who else? Max got a sponsor exemption. Max was in off of his FedEx Cup. Oh, you're right. You're right. Sponsor exemption next week.

Keith Mitchell got a sponsor exemption. Yeah, none of them really parlayed it in the much this week. So anyway, let's, let's move on from the Cadillac. We can move on. Neil, I know you got to bounce. I do. A bit travel. Got to hit some bedtime,

gentlemen. I'm sure you can understand. So I appreciate you. You let me out of class early. It's always, always a pleasure to chop it up with you on a Sunday night. Thanks for being here, man.

Best to the fam. One to do, Neil. Bang a lang, Randy. Some other fun-ish notes from the week. Not that fun, actually.

But yeah, Christopher Wright's in. He got in with Jake Nap with Drew and his caddy. He had to find a backup. His swing coach, Denny Lucas, actually had to pick up his bag because his caddy, Tim Poiser,

flew. to Scotland thinking he would not get in the event, then had to fly back and made it back in time for Friday, Saturday and Sunday rounds. Rayton, right in. I don't know what we're going to commit to here, but he was in the hunt in the early part of this week. Shot 70, 68, 69, 73 in the final round.

Tough double on the last today. Yeah. What is top 10? Solly, with a week, you have 10 days behind us now. We had the last Friday news dump, the Jim Furick, news dump. There still hasn't been a press conference. He did some weird derby activations there. He announced two of his ass captains, Justin Leonard and Stu Sink.

We feeling better. We're feeling worse. About the same. There's rumors of Scouts, Inc. No longer working with the team. I don't know that whether or not if that's true or not. I said specifically last week that I didn't want to do literally name two names. I didn't want to do the Stu Sink, Justin Leonard thing was what I said last week.

And they named those two guys assistant captains this week. I was trying to take the most optimistic look into the captaincy last week of like, all right, the guys learned. He's got to know we got to do things a little different. And it could be wrong on this, but it very much looks like. Just to bet the pony. comically similar model to kind of the worst of what's been going on with Team USA. I have nothing against Justin Leonard or Stu Sink. It just they don't seem like the group of guys that's going to really galvanize this group

and create an identity and create something for them to, I don't want to say bond together, but like give a shit in a totally different way. I just don't, I don't picture that as being the group. I could be wrong. It still has the ability to round out the group with some, some younger assistant captains that might be able to change the culture a little bit, but I don't think the culture is going to change with what they have right now. And it's a big task at Adair anyways,

and they're probably off better off losing by a bunch in that one, and then really upset in the apple cart ahead of Hazeltian in 2029. That's really where I'm at. It's like when somebody hates their team so much, there's like, let's just tank for the draft pick. Yeah. Bread's just got sweat this week. I'm kind of interested in a bad, bad team mood right now.

Solly, you can't bail on a team. You had already, already counted out. It's true. It's very true. But it actually, I'm looking forward to this writer cup cycle a lot more. Now that he can't hurt me,

it's going to be, it is, it is a lot more fun. It's just such a strange rollout. Like, it almost seems like they're embarrassed of the whole thing. Right? Like,

they haven't really done anything to, like the Kagan announcement seemed like a really huge deal last go around. And this just seems like, oh, by the way, yeah, we named our captain, like, don't ask us any questions.

about it. Also, I meant to note this earlier. Keegan did sit Cameron Young in the first session also at Beth Page. As we were discussing him, maybe being one of the best top three players in the world. Just a reminder, Kegan sat him. You didn't even want him on the team. Yeah, you didn't want him on the team. Well, that's completely untrue. He was definitely

one of my captain's picks ahead of last year, Cody, so I don't know where you got me. Also, Ryder Cup tickets are up 640% since 2010 at Celtic Manor, which is pretty wild. inflation baby everything else is up about that much what do you what do you do about that

though right i mean if you're one of these organizations putting this on and you know that's what the secondary ticket market that is going to get i know would you rather a second that's where i'm i'm just like dude yes sports are expensive now uh i wish it wasn't the case but you know supply and demand works in a certain way and I'd rather those organizers get the money than ticket brokers or anything like that is kind of where I'm at I don't have I don't love it but it am I missing part of the story there is my no I think that's I think that's fair it's just jarring how sudden it's been because even for marco simone I think it was pretty affordably priced right it was you know under

200 bucks per ticket now it's you know it's five basically 500 one of the I don't I I don't know when we went to a Dare Manor, and I heard the Brayton, who we knew the Rider Cup was going to be going there. At no point was I like, oh, I bet those tickets will be a good deal. It was like, oh, shit, that's going to be an expensive place to host a Rider Cup.

But you guys must be chilling in way too many collectors markets. Because like, just because the secondary values up there, that doesn't like set what the baseline price of the item is. You know, that's how you end up with like $6,000 putters in this word, like word life that we, live in. I don't, I agree with,

see where you're coming from. The organization is putting it on is getting a larger cut of the market value. What the total outlay is. Yes. I don't know anything about the $6,000 putters out there, but that's a, that's a physical, physical object versus like an event experience where some same memories are priceless, you know, it's also not a very good experience. It's not. If you want to see golf, It's a great experience, but if you want to see golf, it's not. And the European ones are more fun than the American ones have been,

at least in recent years. Can we talk blocky? Please. Go, go right ahead. I mean, there was all sorts of, all sorts of aura farming from him. I saw him barking at the ball to go in the hole on the ninth hole at Banded Dunes.

I don't think it went anywhere close to the hole. but then he hit an exceptional shot in you know in on like like ocean like waves crashing in the background oh that shot was so safe way out to the right and he you know he like he hits it and then he just kind of saunters off to the right and I don't know that and then he he had a nod to the haters in uh you know one of his his quotes afterwards and then he did a whole reel in the car afterwards as well it was just you know he he just said for all the haters whatever be haters randy what what say you let's say you uh guys i'm a little i'm a little uh in a precarious position here i it started with a couple of clips that i saw of him uh just oh

Telling the ball to go in the hole, missing the green completely. I'm not sure. I guess let me ask you guys this. Do you think Block is now in on the joke? Or do you think he's like so far down the road, we've completely lost him? I thought you were going a different direction. I thought you were about to flip on Blocky and become a huge fan. Well, I think I, if he's in on the joke, which I'm starting to sense he might be in on the joke,

then I might be coming around on him. But I don't know. I think he's aware of the joke and not in on the joke. And awareness has made it potentially worse of like doing the appeal of like, you know, appealing to the haters in the in the post round or whatever it is is like a, I see you hating and you're wrong here. All right, I'm the dude. And I don't know.

I don't know if that's to be celebrated. That's my interpretation. Okay. All right. um he's randy i will say like he's got he's with malbin now he's got all sorts of like he's just got all the juice right now he does seem pretty juiced up at the moment um he gets a feature pair get erotamig it's interesting the new i think the new leadership at the p you know obviously that they want to they want to showcase their

Corbridge financial team of course but I imagine that they're probably pretty aware of it and they want to spread the love to some of the other members of the Corbridge financial team yeah I guess on the on the what would be the worst is if Blocky's just desperately trying to reach for relevance any way he can and if that's the case it's not good uh if he's in on the joke and just having fun and he knows exactly what he's doing, then I'm kind of in on it. I need to see more. I think I think Eronim is going to be a big test for,

for my relationship with Blocky. So TC, I know that I know that's maybe not. Oh, that's fine. Let's put that on the storyline as you would have wanted, but I think we're in wait and see mode right now. Storyline list for the PGA preview. I think Erotamine could be a pretty good course fit for Blocky.

It kind of could. Donald Ross, not that similar for O'Kill. They made cut for Blocky at Aronimo. I think I'm taking yay. God, I hope they have odds on whatever gambling. I still remember the odds they put up

on his Colonial first round. Oh, dude, I was there at Colonial, the hype after Oak Hill. Oh, my God, going right into that. I went out and followed him. And the second hole, he hit the center of the golf ball with a lob wedge. And it went 60.

yards over the green. It went so far over the green after all. He did 35 interviews between Sunday and this Thursday tea time. And then Friday, he signed an autographed mid round. They had, he sat there and had beers for like three hours afterwards and just, just hung out with the people.

But it's turned into like, like this 10 minutes of fame could be, could be 10 years of fame for Blocky. Is Blocky going to end up in the, like in the World Golf Hall of Fame I feel like that's the way we're going Blocky and Luke Elvie's tweets I think I won't remember most

from this era of things that should be put in the world golf golfing never get affiliated with Liv that's going to be that's the biggest anybody that doesn't or like how hasn't Blocky done a bunch of stuff like joined good good right he did

he did didn't he? Well maybe it was just clothing yeah yeah where I think he was in some Like Randy, if blocky, there should be like a, you know, if you lose the blocky, you have to forfeit your next signature event start or whatever, too blocky. Like there should be stakes. I like that on the line. All right.

Let's remember that for PGA week. That's, that's a good one. I think he did just wear their attire. This is what happened back in 2023. Speaking of attire, let's give a shout to our friends at Holderness and Bourne. The spring color palette is here and it's fantastic. Tangerine, Tudor, Vista Blue, and Belmont, and it is time to stock up on some bottoms. The Harwood Short is a game changer.

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Oh, my travel go-to. Perhaps the main event for this week, just a mass. massive, massive length of news related items on the live golf front. I'm going to go through some of them. I'm going to maybe put it on you guys, Cody included, to raise your hand when it's time to pause and talk about what we've just learned here and what it all means. So I'm going to go until you guys stop me on some new stuff, if that works. It's a long week.

On Monday, WDSU in New Orleans or in Louisiana reported that the live golf event plan for New Orleans was likely to be postponed. The athletics shortly after that reported that it is postponed. Live later announced the postponement as well, saying in coordination with the governor of Louisiana and Louisiana economic development, we have made this strategic decision to explore moving live golf Louisiana to a new window later this fall. This allows us to shift to avoid the peak summer heat and the crowded global sports calendar while ensuring the courses in championship condition our fans and players expect. We are grateful for the continued partnership and flexibility of the state of Louisiana

as we work together to deliver a world-class debut this fall. Our team is focused on maintaining the strong momentum of 2026 season, and we look forward to sharing finalized dates in the near future. I'm going to put my hand up on that one if you guys aren't going to as well. This event was scheduled for late June. They are announcing that they want to move it because it's a crowded, bottom of the sports calendar and the peak summer heat. Also, of note, Liv does not have a fall season that this event will be moving into.

Of course, there were economic reasons for this when the announcements came out. The state of Louisiana basically reached out to say until there's a longer-term financial plan for this. We don't know if we want to put this on. It has led to there was money sent from Louisiana, state of Louisiana to live that somehow has been paid back. there's money that's been put into the golf course as a part of this deal as well. But yeah, it wasn't necessarily the peak summer heat and the course conditions that

were forcing this event to be moved. It is undoubtedly for financial reasons that it is moving to this fall. Very funny that the, you know, governor of Louisiana and secretary bourgeois at first, we want to thank Zurich and the PGA tour leadership for another outstanding tournament this past weekend. Just twist in the knife there. I think Liv needs a fall series. You know, a silly season. Might they become a fall series?

Maybe a serious season. What if their fall season was serious? So this now creates a hole in the Live golf calendar. There are no events scheduled between June 7th and July 23rd. First thing that came to mind for me there was this gives Rom plenty of opportunity to add to DP World Tour events. and take the deal that DP World Tour offered him. If he were to want to maintain that membership

and stay on the Ryder Cup team, I imagine, for next year. So I haven't heard anything, any news on that front since then, but I would have to imagine that is a good opportunity for him there. Solly, he's too, as your guy, flush has been saying, he's too principled for that. It's just too principled. Later on that week, this past week, Wall Street Journal, reported on Wednesday that Liv will be planning to tell players and staff by Thursday that the PIF

would end its funding for the upstart league. There was a little confusion around this. It was kind of already reported that this was the case, you know, whatever we've already told them. But I think the difference here was that the message to the board and to everyone was we are, it is no longer being funded beyond 2026 from from the, that official message being transpired, you know, passed down from Live leadership that not only they are funded through 2026 but it is we're not exploring a possibility where live will be funded by the PIF in 2020. That was that was kind of the news of the week. Liv did come out with an announcement on Thursday said they're focused on securing long-term

financial partners to support its transition from a foundational launch phase to a diversified multi-partner investment model. This is my favorite line in there. This strategic evolution accelerated by the league's record breaking. performance in 2026. So the live was just been so successful that it's actually accelerated when they need to bring in outside investment.

It has accelerated the PIF not wanting to be involved in it anymore to translate that sentence. Also announced the creation of an independent board with two new members, Gene Davis and John Zenman. Davis is the CEO of a consulting firm. It specializes in turnaround management with past and current clients that include Spirit Airlines and Weight Watchers. tough week for that to come out before Spirit Airlines went under this past week.

That's tough. Rosser, sorry, sports business journal also reported Yasser has stepped down, of course, as chairman of the league's board. Golf Digest reported this week that several agents for live players have reached out to the PGA tour about a return. The people familiar with the conversation say a path back to the PJ tour will exist, though the conditions are expected to be considerably more restricted than those granted to Brooks Kepka. The returning member program is not expected to be renewed. And the 11 players who join the antitrust suit against the PJ Tor are expected to face additional scrutiny.

That group includes DeShambo, Phil Mickelson, Taylor Gooch, and Ian Polter. Pausing there to say, what is what, what, what, what, what's happening here with these, with these play. All right, let's, we can, you know, have a little, you know, put a pin and live for 2027. Maybe there is a season. Maybe it's change. We'll, look, we'll get to that. that. If you want to leave, live, what's it going to look like? What's a realistic path back for these guys to get back to the PGA tour now? Both returning member program, let's do

the Bryson, Rom, Cam Smith group now and anybody else if they want to make it back to the PGA tour. Now that this is getting real, what do you think this looks like, T.C.? I think it depends on the guy. I think if you're, obviously the lawsuit stuff complicates matters. I think if you're rank and file, you know, boosts, you know, boosts, you know, Butros, Boutros, Tringale, or someone of that, it'll go play a corned fairy tour, Big Dog. Like start at the bottom and work your way back up, if you even want to.

I would imagine Bryson, I don't know what Bryson's desire to play week-to-week on the PGA tour is. I don't even think that's a concern or a question at this point. And then, yeah, you're really looking at Rom. I think he's the one that you know, everybody he's kind of looking to like, hey,

what the hell are you going to do, big guy? And yeah, no clue at all. I feel like as far as golf fans are in what we're experiencing, Brooks Kepka is back and it looked like he had no punishment, but he has been, he has received punishment,

like not being available for the equity program for the PGA tour for, I believe, five years it is, plus a five million. million dollar, you know, charitable donation he's had to make among other things, the things he's had to give up. Like, yeah, he's back in playing golf and we get to enjoy that and that's a good thing. But like, we, we kind of don't see the punishment that he's getting from this. It makes you, it can wash over you and thinking like he got off easy

and got back easy. Whereas it's not, it's not that easy. It's not that great from a financial standpoint for him. And if he got the good into the deal, like what does that actually look like for Ram is where the PJ tour is in a really interesting spot. They're going to be incentivized to get these guys back, to get television ratings in a good spot before negotiations kick off for the next TV deal, probably in, in 2028 at some point. I would imagine when those discussions will, they'll be going on as of that point.

And they'll want to have their model rolled out by then. The 2028 season is kind of what they're banking on. You're going to want those guys back by then, but you're not going to want to just open. open the door and wave them through. I don't have an easy answer here either. Like is ROM is ROM driving television ratings

for the PGA tour? Like are more people tuning in to say the truest next week because John Rom's there? I think there would be a momentary bump, the novelty, right? As he comes back. But I don't think over a long term, absent like he goes and wins a bunch of major,

and becomes like the best player in the world. I don't think so. I think it's interesting that you asked that and not Bryson because I would definitely say yes to Bryson. Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah. But like, yeah. I think Bryson goes without saying.

That's why I'm asking for Ron. Right. No, I think it, I think you're right, Randy. I think it's an interesting buzz item. And I think it, I think it's one, again, it's not that ROM is must see TV, but it is more likely that the more big names you have at the Cadillac, let's just use that as maybe a bad example because it wasn't really a full field,

the more likely it is that ROM finishes third than it is Ben Griffin, and that's what I think would be viewed as a positive thing for professional golf. That's not a shot of Ben Griffin, but like some of these names that have been able to creep up into the kind of the top 10 of the PGA tour, golf is going to be a little more interesting if that's Bryson and Rom and Cam Smith and some of these guys, and P, getting back involved. Guys just have more, not necessarily even fandom, but just more like recognizability from a lot of golf floor.

We're talking cloud, baby. Yeah. And controversy around them, I think it would, it would make for more interesting TV. So, what water mentions. So I think, I think it brings up an interesting question of what, what happens to the Asian tour? Like the PIFs's been underpinning that, like the international series. What happens to to the Aramco Ladies series? Like, is that going by the wayside as well?

Are they still going to spend money on, on, you know, the lady's shadow creek event um you know like is are they getting out of golf completely or are they just is it just hey live's been an abject failure and we're going to stop throwing good money after bad or on that front however we're going to keep the other stuff going and be part of the ecosystem i don't have the answer to that tc but if i was sitting on their shoes i would say it's the latter i think live is a complete and abject failure and spending money in golf can and has been fruitful for them in some other ways and being and partnering with other organizations that is not pissing everybody off in the process only to have uh you know

next to nobody watching it on u.s television which matters to you as much as you want to pretend like it doesn't like you can do some piff can do some amazing things in golf and they can they can underpin the entire series of national opens like they've talked about doing they can uh there could be a three-way deal between the dp world tour pGA tour and Piff. A two-way deal. It could, yeah. It very well could.

PJTor can be cut out of all that completely. I don't think that the results would tell Piff that they should get out of golf. I think they should just obviously get out of live. And to an extent, they, you know, think, all right, think back to the LPGA event at Shadow Creek. It's your Ramco, your championship or whatever. I don't think we said a single word that week about who, you know, where the money was coming from, who the money was coming from all that. That's, that's mission accomplished in their mind. You know, cleaned.

Yeah. Yeah, laundered. So you see the same thing in F1. You see the same thing in tennis. You see, yeah, I mean, it's. I'm trying to find it. It just created so much noise that, that, you know, it just flooded the zone with this stuff. And it's normalized.

All right, Piff. Piff can be involved as long as it's on. terms that are good for the game, I think is where we've landed. It's like, at what point does Yasser get, get called to the principal's office? If he hasn't already. They have. To say like, that's what this is a little bit. What the fuck are you doing?

Can I go back to your previous comment, though, T.C. of, you know, Piff, as long as they're, as long as they're funding something and it's at least somewhat good for the game, it's okay. I still draw the line. I said this back in 2022 is like, as long as you don't have to get up there and act like Graham McDowell did. 2022 of you know i know what happened to koshoggi's bad but i think we can use golf as a greater force for good as long as you don't have to get up there and do that and like a and like vocally try to say positive things about the saudi regime like i'm and they're they're gonna their money's going to be everywhere there's no stopping that it's not a it's not a one drop rule of if there's any saudi money here this event is complete tainted this person is completely tainted that's not how i view

it it's like if you're going to sell if you're going to basically sell your entertainment value to them and disrupt the entertainment that we get as fans out of it and lie to my face about why you're doing it and try to pretend like this this is a good and noble cause that's when people are going to call bullshit on you at least that's where i'm sitting and it's a grayish area and it's not it's not clean none of it will be clean but i i don't think it's realistic to just like boycott everything with golf if it involves piff in any way because they're going to be in a lot of places and i find golf quite entertaining i've just found none of what live has been able to be offered to clear that even come close to clear that bar for me. Yeah. I know I read somewhere this week, T.C., just to answer your question

real quick, I can't find it right now, but I believe it was 100% that Live is no longer the sole underpinning, or excuse me, the PIF is no longer the sole underpin of LiveGolf. But their investment through Ladies European Tour, through other things are continuing because they're still under long-term contracts for there, which I also would think that there is probably a world for where you see all these PIF related companies still being involved in live golf, you know, just not being the soul. They're not underpinning the entire thing. But I'm still, you, I'm sure you'll see a Ramco show up somewhere or the airline or

something else like that. Do you think there's a live golf 2027 schedule, like an event, in a series of events? It depends on if you're listening to Luke Alvier or not. I just don't know who's going to pay for that. Well, that's the thing. It's so much money. Like, all right. So you've got this thing seemingly unraveling uncertainty.

Are they going to have to fund raise? Yeah. This is business. This is business. But, like, how do you go along with, all right, if people are already looking for new jobs, if this has all been signaled, we'll see what kind of a leader, Scott O'Neill is. Because once, you know, once the first, I would argue Brooks and Reed were kind of the first two rats off of the sinking ship. But once the, you know, once your salesperson leaves or this person or that person or that person or things stop getting paid.

Yeah. You know, that were, because that's the other thing. Like, I'm sure a lot of these deals that they've signed have been, you know, are multi-year contracts. And so, you know, how do you get, how do you necessarily get out of those things? without voiding the current deal as well. I don't know. I seemingly always go back to the Performance 54 guys, that agency that got in Yasser's ear and sold him a bill of goods.

Those guys should be, I mean, just either laughing all the way to the bank and ashamed and just all of, you know, all that stuff rolled into one. But, like, those guys should never have a place in golf, ever. They got a big piece of golf, T.C. Not just live. They run a lot of golf. It saw when you frame the ROM thing and, like, him coming back, I think that was kind of from the tour side of it.

But what if, so Liv goes away, right? Rom could just go play European tour next year, make top 10. And then the tour, I would think, has to have him back. because it's been a year since his last live start? Wouldn't be lit. I guess it would. Yeah, if he played 2027 DP World Tour and then 2028, he would be back in theory, yes.

But I think that would be a negative. If that's how it played out, that would be a negative for the PGA Tour. They need Star Power like that. So I do think that ROM has a little bit of bargaining power. Not a lot. But all those guys, Sam Cam Smith,

they could just go play DP World Tour for the year. And I don't know if this is petty to be at this. point, but it's like, all right, 2023, Rahm, all right, you don't go. Please don't go, man. Don't go. If you go, it's, the world's coming down on you. Can't go. Can't go. Here's what, here's what we're doing. We're going to have this new equity system.

Please return my phone calls. You can't go, man. Don't go. Like, hey, we're not going. Please don't go. Hey, here's why you shouldn't go. Here's why you shouldn't go on repeat. Like people blowing up his phone, he ignored everybody. And he went. Then a life raft is thrown this past year, the returning member program. You can come back right now if you want, and here's what you're going to pay,

and there's no guarantee that the path back is going to be easier than this later, and you also turn that down. I don't see how what leg the tour could, what you said, it makes perfect sense. It would just be way, like, made more sense to have John Ron playing BJ tour events. But after you've done that, I don't know how you just wave them back through. That just, that's where the tour's in a tricky spot of trying to blend those two things. And I think they honestly probably should be a little stubborn with somebody that treated,

their tour and the people at the PGA tour the way that he did and wouldn't look people in the eye, wouldn't talk to them about the decision and screwed this whole process up by how many years? Like how long did Liv get extended because Rom left? Like they were sinking. They weren't signing anybody post-2020. And he went and did this and blew up the framework agreement and everything, which may have been a good thing for golf long term, but like I just don't think it can or should be that easy for as simple as it is for exact reasons you said,

I think it's going to get ugly. Hell yeah. A lot of agents made a lot of money off this whole deal. Now they're going to actually have to work for it, trying to get their guys back on the tour. Do you think all of the other scheduled live events happen this year, guys? Let's go to the schedule. What do we got?

We got, there's an event this coming week. at Trump, D.C. I think that one absolutely happens. Sounds like it is. What is that going to be like? And you got South Korea, end of the month.

Just to pause on that. This is the first U.S. event. There's going to be, I would have to imagine there's going to be real media there. This is not one of those events where I don't think there's going to be much real media in Korea at the end of May. Like there's going to be some decently serious questions asked of some people this week.

So expect some news and some conversation items. coming out of this week i mean i think it i think it keeps rolling through south korea they go to valderrama jcb in great britain and then they go back to they go to trump bedminster neels place yeah and then they and then they got their last two events they got indianapolis and detroit i bet they make this season i don't know what what i was shocked i think is that uh you know telling us the whole time is that you can't don't judge success based off of you know audience sizes it's a different model don't judge success based off of people that are at the venue it's a different model these are spectacles which i like can see now after watching this dog shit event in darrell i hope

they got the bedbugs cleaned out before the guys got down there but when i saw that the the governor of louisiana was like yes our tourism budget paid them three million dollars and that's what live has been like jumping up and down and being like, you don't understand all the tourism dollars that we're getting. I'm like, three, no, that's it. Like that's, that's what you guys have been so pumped about. I'm like, God, I just expect. Governor lost a lot. The governor of Louisiana is a nut job.

Yeah, I was, I read online that it was an eight figure fee that they paid him. Cody. And I guess that turned out to not be true. That's wild. Right. One of the fact I read on X.com ended up not being true. And I'm just kind of come to terms with that. Will you address the bot allegations?

Oh, that's great. That's true. I was waiting for this to happen. I was, I was, I, so we've been inundated with bot followers for, I don't know how long. I first noticed it happening several months ago. It's just happening in an outrageous pace. Apparently this has happened to a fair amount of people in the golf industry, but I was like, just like, what, what? Like, of course we did not buy followers.

Like, of course we would not do that. Like, what, who, what, where is, where's this coming from? I was like, you know what? I'm just going to let this ride. And I'm just going to assume that the first person that calls us out for this is the one who did this. Like who bought a bunch, you know, I don't know how much it costs to buy followers or whatever, get hit with a bot account, a bot attack. But sure enough, one of the live bot accounts called us out for it this week and a bunch of

throughout some conspiracy theories as to why we've gotten half a million bot followers on Twitter in the last several months. But yeah, that was, that was, we're waiting for that to happen just to see who called it out. And that's my number one suspect I have to guess right now. Yeah, I'm sure. I love. Like, as the person that sees the money in and out, love when people talk about it.

Just that we paid, like, oh, my God. I wish I could report that I've been paying for bots here the last six months. Just running a secret campaign over here. Maybe we should. Maybe we should get it up. I know. How high could we go? Could we get like 100 million followers?

Maybe that's the play. You know what I love about it, Randy? It's just to watch people get worked up about that. And then I already think you're full of shit. and to watch them be a thousand percent wrong on one thing is like oh god you just freed me up to make fun of you 85 times more because of how wrong you have to be about everything else if you're this committed to being wrong on this and i know you're wrong oh you just made it a lot worse luke luke i just don't know what the like for for a platform that we've mostly stepped away from

over the last oh it's a couple of years i'm sure yeah i'm sure it's got something to do with you know this the the the starlink ipo or the, you know, the SpaceX IPO and all of that stuff. Neon's trying to... Choosing them numbers, baby. Show growth and all that. But, man, yeah, it's like, what's our end game there? Like, what are we trying to...

12 years we waited. We did it the right way for 12 years, but we just had to hurry up and get a million or all our sponsors were going to drop us. You know who got the real L out of this deal, though? Solly spent all that money buying Twitter bots, and Neil couldn't buy enough solvent to re-gurped his clubs. So he's just over in his basement trying to raw dog and have grips. Yeah.

I used all of Randy's budget on that one. I do got to get one debasing tweet in here today, if you'll let. Luke L.V., again, I think it's, I'm going to say at the point that I think it's a parody account, had a tweet that said, an investment idea. I don't think Luke's smart enough for it. Yeah. An investment idea for LiveGolf, have all the captains pull their massive sign-on bonuses from PIF into a consortium and buy the league, it would have to be around a billion dollars

and they can back the concept they committed so strongly to would be akin to SSG's investment into the PGA tour. One of the hardest I've ever laughed at a single tweet over the last five years of this bulls dog shit era of professional golf of like one of the most off the wall. We just watched the most selfish series of acts in professional golf history in the last five years and the idea that they would take all this money

that they got all this free handout money on this horrific business model, take that money and not walk away from the table. They would reinvest this into this money pit that has lived golf, and he's dead serious about that, was the highlight of my week. That is one of the hardest I've ever laughed at a bot tweet.

Luke has such an uncanny and remarkably brilliant way of writing something and making the complete opposite point that he thought he was. that he thought he was making it's it's incredible uh he's he's truly one of a kind if we're looking at world golf hall of fame this should go in there locky i think i think i think elv he's making his case like if this was the lpg a point system elvie would be in the in the low 20s as far as points are concerned right now i don't know what's going to happen with live golf but i i promise you

what's not going to happen is that richard bland and graham mcdall are going to take their sign on bonuses and reinvest it back into this league. I can tell you that's not going to happen. I can see Bryson, like Bryson and his guy, what, David Blitzer, you know, making a play for the, for the IP and the assets and stuff and rolled it into the U-Golf tour. So I want to, Bryson had some quotes, of course, to flushing at golf when asked about, if he had asked about, you know, if his team had asked about routes back to the PGA tour, he said it's completely untrue. I'm working as hard as I can to find a solution. He said, I'm committed to making team golf work in the best way possible.

I think there's a place for it in the ecosystem. I want to continue to grow the game across the world. That's always been our mission. It's never been more true than now. I didn't, I don't know if the whole of interviews available or I didn't read anything beyond that, but that does not say live golf on there that says team golf. And to your point earlier, TC, of I don't think Bryson's dying to get back in the week-to-week at the PGA tour.

I would tend to agree with that. It would not surprise me if Bryce. tried to do something in the team golf realm on his own. I do not think he's going to buy live golf. I don't, I think he's not an idiot. I shouldn't say that. He's not a complete idiot. And even he would know that live golf business model doesn't make any sense.

I think he knows what he's worth. And could he make something work team golfish slash YouTube? That wouldn't surprise me as much as it would like Bryson just playing a full live schedule in 2027 would. like I kind of believe him when he says he wants to make team golf work. I don't I don't believe him at all if he says it's untrue that he's asked about a route back to the PGA tour because that has been reported to be true. And he lies about this. He lies about this stuff literally all the time. Are we still on last week or this past week?

Is this still? David Farity admitted he was in the dark about the Piff pulling funding when he did his big speech when they came on the air at Mexico, which was great. The last thing I had was Gabby Herzig did a great piece for the athletic. Just exploring Lib's future. Asked a bunch of sports investors. Got eight sources to talk about, you know, what's going on with Liv. I can explain this to me. Some of the quotes in this article are what you'd think they'd be.

I'll just read a few of them. The league is in free fall. They still have major large payment obligations and they still have very large purses to pay out. So if you're an investor looking into this, I don't know how you step into it. And last one, lived is so far from cash flow break even, said one investor who currently holds a stake in an F1 team. The math is never going to work. The business model was around selling these franchises to get all that money out.

But that investment thesis has completely failed. The teams are not recognizable entities. The crushers are the crushers because of Bryson DeShambo when he's not there. Who the fuck wants the crushers? Which I think like Rory is an investor in Alpine. that could have been Rory for all for all we know I'm a good quote like that's true

that's a very good point that's a very good point I had not thought of that so yeah big week what did they say these franchises what did they try to tell us these franchises we're gonna billion dollar franchises Randy billion dollar

now they kind of rechanged that to like 300 million each sure which yeah again I can see the cliques being I think if we don't If we don't buy more bots, we should, maybe we could buy a franchise off the scrap heap.

What do we think happened to like, did the Niblics, did their like history, you know, like when the Cleveland Browns returned or when, you know, like, does the history stay with, yeah. Like their, their history went to the Ravens versus, you know, like when a team keeps their history there and then restart. as a new franchise but has their history yeah i thought the cleveland history stayed in cleveland i thought that was part of the deal yeah anyway l pGA yeah randy take us to the lbjta tour uh guys and nelly uh we don't know if she'll ever crack the fedora five but uh she won handily again this week kind of a shock that she was playing this event quite honestly coming on off the Chevron. I don't know,

Cody, you're shaking your head. I don't know if she's just satisfying like the once every, is it three or four year requirement that the LPJ has for players to play events. I don't know if she just wanted a little R&R down on the, down on the Riviera, Maya.

The Mexican Caribbean. But anyway, she played great golf. It really was never in doubt, like kind of a repeat of last week. It goes on to win by four shots. Guys, just stats here. This is courtesy of the LPGA tour. Nelly, this is her 18th LPGA tour victory.

She's the 26th American to win at least 18 times. Do you know the last American to win at least 18 times? How long ago were we talking? This woman won for the 18th time in 2015. TC, kind of your girl. Stacey Lewis? No. Christy Kerr.

She is, Nelly is the youngest American to win at least 18 times since Nancy Lopez got her 18th win in 1980. So some nice company there for Nellie. And the last player of any nationality

to win her 18th event was Lydia Cope back in 2020. I think this is where it gets interesting. So this is Nelly. Sorry, a couple more. here. Nellie, first American to win the tournament after a major since Meg Malin did that in 2014. Lorena Ochoa was the last person to win the Chevron and then the week after in back-to-back starts. That was in 2008. So the win today, this is Nellie's 23rd Hall of Fame point.

What do they need? 27. I believe 27 gets you inducted. I will say you get a point for player of the year. You get a point for the VAR trophy, which goes to the lowest scoring average. Nelly sometimes is in danger of not meeting the minimum round threshold for that. But let's assume she keeps up the strong play. She wins player of the year. Let's say she wins the scoring title. That's 25 points. If she wins another major, that would be 27 points for Nellie. So I think a Hall of Fame storyline is very, very much in play this year. And just to kind of reset everything, Nellie, this is her sixth start of this season. She has three wins and three runner up.

So it is, I mean, she's doing it. Two players. Yeah. Mel Reed was on the broadcast. It was actually a CBS broadcast today. Mel Reed said this is the best golf of her life. They asked Nellie that question. Nellie refuses to answer.

She's just keeping her head down and inspiring the next generation. But Mel Reid was like, this is the best golf I've seen Nelly play. According to the LPGA, her strokes gained the KPMG insights. I don't think it includes this week yet, but she came in at plus 4.23 total. That's only going to go up with a four-shot victory this week. It's just, it is, she's kind of running away from everybody to start 2026. So her next start, she's not teeing it up next week at the Missouho. She will be in Cincinnati two weeks from now at the at the Queen City Classic or championship or whatever they're calling it at McItewa.

Randy, for the listeners' sake, that that strokes gain number, like I know with the component level data on the LPJ tour, there's some questions because it's based on Caddy's fill that out but the total number is just based on how much you beat the field by above four that's peak that's peak tiger like scotty hadn't gotten above four like that's that's well it's it's it's outrageous it's insane uh to consistently beat like the average level player uh by over 16 shots per tournament is what that's saying that's outrageous yeah it it really is like it's head and shoulders better than every i mean gino is not having a good year there's just hannah green hana green has had a pretty good year and of course hujil kim won twice but it just

seems like nellie's i mean she's this gear from nelly nobody else has this gear right now it just is it's on a different level two of the remaining four major championship venues hazeltine and riviera seem to suit her quite well i don't think you know I don't think Lhythm doesn't suit her, but I think that it brings other players more strongly into the fold. And then Evian's just a total, total crap.

That's what you've seen. So the same caveats with the KPMG insights, but that total 4.23, the way they break it down, Nelly is minus 0.3 in putting, meaning her T to green number is 5.14. Strokes gain. that's where I that's where I would throw up I'm going to double tap my head on that one that's probably not accurate yeah

there's no malfeasance in that it's just like legitimately very hard to guess your your data numbers exactly how you know how far you way you away you are on putts ready you have the new data golf women's rankings too she's of course number one over there and they have her at plus 4.13 like what's the deal with the elk PGA on CBS just like the most random weeks. I know. I don't, I don't know.

So they will be on CBS next week too, for the Missouho, which is like a pretty good tournament. They're not at Liberty National this year, but. Notting Ridge is a good golf course. None Ridge is better than Liberty National. Yeah.

Okay. All right. We be big. We played it. Is that the one we played always? Okay. All right. Randy plays so many country clubs.

You can't keep them all right. All right. Yeah, Mountain Ridge is sweet. I take that back. But then they have the Dow from Michigan. I don't know, T.C. It's very weird how and why they choose to use this CBS network time. I'll just say like Kelly Tillman, Mel Reed, were the broadcasters.

They had Karen Stupples out on the course. I think that's the best women's golf broadcasting lineup you're going to get. And I wish they would use... Far better than anything we've seen lately. I wish they would use the CBS opportunities for some better events. I mean, had Nelly not gone down to Mexico this week, this is... Gabby Lopez was instrumental in getting this tournament restarted down in Mexico. This was a mule fest, not a good field at all this week in Mexico.

A lot of players, top players choosing to skip it. you know, they shorten the field at one point in time. This was supposed to be a full field. I think they brought it down to 120. Natalie Golbis played, you know, like how is she still getting the starts? It's just, yeah.

Rupos Salinas needs to get involved. There are some more money at the purse. What was the plan this week? I know TV got kind of thrown into, were they going to be on CBS just before PGA tour? Correct. Yes, plan? Okay, like one to three or 12 to three?

And that they were one to three. And they were trying to get it done before that window. They probably would have made them play five-somes if need be just to get in the creepy window. It's bad. It's bad. I did appreciate Carlotta was getting called out for a pre-shot routine on the air. She looked at the cup 17 times. A five-footer, right?

When they're like a five-foot, five-foot put. Yeah. Like we need to be stroking. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably need to be kicked off the tour. Yeah, so next week I mentioned Missouho at the world famous great golf course

Mountain Ridge and then they go to Cincinnati but we're all leading towards Riv and that's the first weekend of June. That's kind of the next crown jewel here on the women's calendar. We have the AIG Women's Open announced for the old course at Sunningdale going back there for the first time since 2008. That is excellent.

Um, as well, we have so good. Yeah. That's, that's like, that's it, man. From like a viewing perspective and, and just TV in person, challenging the ladies, going to a place that the men can't go because it's not long enough. This will be post Gil kind of touching it up a little bit. Plenty of corporate opportunities for them there in London. Um, it seems like they do maybe have a little bit of a,

a bias against going to Scotland for the Women's Open right now. A lot of... We're just there. St. Andrews doesn't count. Yeah, but outside of St. Andrews, it seems like they're very heavy into... They were Mirfield 22.

But yeah, I guess an interesting thing. So the women aren't bound. Obviously, the men's open has to be played on a Lynx course. The women don't have to play links courses. So you get places like Walton Heath a few years. ago sunningdale um i'm curious if you guys like that or i i like it a lot more now that the rna is really making sure when they do go to lynx courses it's like the best open road to lynx venues um but they have room to go to like a royal porth call uh in wales last year um

i kind of dig it i think it works for the women it sounds like they'll try to go to port rush at some point here in the near future as well. Yeah. I love it big. I think the Heathland golf courses are probably not, almost certainly not big enough to host open championships. And it's probably, you know, I always, whatever I've played most recently between Heathland golf and Lynx golf is my favorite.

So I just played Lynx this past week. Links is now my favorite. Whenever I've left a trip playing Heathland golf, I'm like, all that's the best in the world. Like it's all of the elements of Link's golf that I love, the firm turf, you know, the bunkers being in the right place of exactly where you want to hit it. It's just add in a little elevation change, a little bit of shielding from the wind, yet wind still hits these places and it doesn't just beat you up right by the sea,

a little bit better weather and just amazing turf to play golf on and extreme quality golf shots on some really scenic places. But take me there. Sunnydale Old is just not breaking any news here, but that's one of the greatest golf courses in the world, truly. Great man, Harry Colt. The venues are one thing, but I do, I respect the RNA and AIG team who is like, we need to keep this by city centers. And I think they stretched it last year getting out to Porth Call, even though they were still, you could have train options and everything else to get people in and out. But keeping them by big, you know, metro, big metro areas where you can actually fill people because it goes a long, long way. Yeah, yeah, need some environment there.

Um, and also this year's AIG, uh, going to have expanded television coverage, uh, this past year, but unfortunately no radio coverage. Yeah, this was the other announcement. I hope it's temporary, but there's going to be no radio coverage that week, but they are really building out a lot more television coverage. So viewers back here in the States, like that'll be good. But yeah, personally bummed, Cody and I won't be gracing the radio airwaves for the AIG. We'll serve our pink slips a couple weeks ago. But, you know, I'll trade.

I'll trade that any day for some more coverage because they definitely need it. Also, no laying up did work for overall production. Of course. TC, you want to take us to this next bit? I don't have the heart to introduce this. Yeah, the Trump administration announced that the federal government will officially take over the East Potomac Golf Links on Sunday, ending the lease and begin renovations. two sources familiar with the plans told

not us or not us and yeah this is a it sounds like the FOS is coming in and leading renovations and NLT said this news was a complete surprise to us we also have not received any offer of a lease at Rock Creek which is one of the other courses under their purview for the sake of our community and employees

we hope to have clarity as soon as possible remain committed to our mission, our community, and working to protect public golf courses in D.C. for the benefit of the entire community. Yeah, it sounds like they want to take it to an 18-hole, Fasio, just, you know, cheesecake factory. I don't know. Like, to me, it's just...

Taking the staple of public golf in D.C. in a 36-hole facility and that was going to be renovated essentially for free by Tom Doe, and canceling the lease and bringing in the FOSS to renovate it with hopes of potentially hosting a major championship or a Rider Cup there, which is wildly unrealistic based on everything we've read. And the news here is that this is happening now and is taken over. I assume that by Sunday that meant today,

the renovations start tomorrow. And people had tea times booked over the next couple weeks. People that sound like when I read the people in the golf shop didn't even, hadn't even heard anything about this. and have not been working under this assumption, but it sounds like it is beginning now. And, yeah, I would say, I mean, aside from any sort of politics, I'd just say, yeah, like this, this isn't,

doesn't seem like great business, doesn't seem like great for the community, doesn't seem like both locally, people who play golf, people who don't play golf. And I think my takeaway as well is, Like, fuck Tom Fasio. I hope he gets tart and feathered in the golf industry. I hope he never gets it. He should be ashamed of himself.

I mean that, TC. I don't know if I've ever been more like pissed off at somebody in the actual like golf industry for a decision being made here. This is heartless and shameless. I'm sorry to interrupt you. Hell yeah. This is disgusting, dude. Like, oh my God. Yeah, just to do, I don't know, I feel like there's kind of a code amongst.

golf course architects and in the way that you do business and don't do business and i think that this flies in the face of of of all of that just with you know in having this walter travis course and you know that debris has been dumped on from the excavation project for the white house ballroom all you know setting all of that aside i would just think that like pausea would have the professional courtesy to to not step right in on something than that Doak was doing pro bono out of, you know, it's insane to me. So the fact that various, you know, well thought of reputable entities in golf continue to do business with this guy, it's pretty sad, I think.

Yeah, I wonder what, like, the Augusta folks think of that. Yeah, Augusta, Caves Valley, Discovery, Landco, I mean, all of it. just, you know, like, yeah, it's insane to me. Yeah. Well, our hearts go out to the folks, the National League's Trust, that have put so much into everything in that community, in that golf community over several years and had an unbelievable plan to not only revitalize, but keep it, keep, you know, keep, uh, these iconic venues a part of everyday accessible public golf in D.C. and to have it be snatched away like this is is maddening. I don't really have the heart to dive much more into it.

But it was one of the few shining beacons of a great organization doing great things in a massive market for public golf in this country and in a country that is already lacking the appropriate care around public golf and to see it happen like this. It's just really, really big bummer. Slogged through a thousand mile pipe of bullshit just to get. shovels in the ground at at at at langston you know yeah just crazy so anyway sally in better news we did have a slow slow play penalty given out at a national open on the dp world tour gregorio de leo just one shot out of the lead but they were being timed since the ninth hole and on the 11th hole easily exceeded is a loud time 50 seconds by more than additional 30 seconds

So that kind of worn my heart. Loved seeing that. And then Jamie Donaldson won a million miles from Turkish Airlines, which got me all chuffed and made me think of the great man Eric Adams. First stop's going to be Istanbul for Jamie. I know that. I feel like Eric Adams needs to get involved at East Potomac in some former fashion. Who's to say he's not?

He's Albanian now. What can he really do? What else? in your notebook tc yeah we had some rna happenings aside from the women's open getting announced at sunningdale we had the lhythm 2028 announcement at the media day this week uh we got to play rhythm this week as well as burkdale and hoylake uh i love rhythm man it's just it is it is it is an intellectual examination it is a you know we had we had a 30 mile an hour win from the opposite direction and it was in you know prime condition getting ready for the

rhythm trophy the big amateur event that they have there and it was it was awesome i mean every i had a i was grinning ear to ear the entire time out there and i'm really glad that they're going back there in twenty eight it sounded like it was you know either a mere field or turnberry although they've kind of politely just put turnberry off to the side and said hey like well non dog i don't you know logistically i don't know if that's going to happen but you know it sounds like meirfield we'll see what happens there um but you know i think in port marnick and hoylake i'm sure he'll be in the offing here in the coming years after next year st andrews then 28 latham i'm just glad to see him going back to litham because there was rumors and

feelings that it was it's just too small of a property and pace of plague it's really tough because It's, you know, there's some choke points there, middle of the round. And there's just not enough places to stage things, but they've built a new range, as we saw out over, I think off the 11th hole. I almost hit it OB over there. And, yeah, it's, I don't know, it'll be a logistical challenge for them, but one that I think is extremely worthwhile because that's one of the grand stages in all of the game. I totally agree, D.C.

This will be 16 years since Adam Scott, and we'll see it, of course, of the AIG Women's Open later this year as well. But you get there and you're like, it is pretty small. Like it is, you know, we were at Burkdale and Lidham and Liverpool this week. And it's like clearly the smallest of the three in terms of all the things you need to go into a massive tournament like the Open Championship. But it's one of the best examinations of golf out there, especially if they get any wind at all. It is just every single aspect of it is extremely challenging. And 100 and I've said 252 bunkers for like 12 years.

I've been saying that. Apparently there's only like 180 or 190. I've been overestimating, but it feels that way. And they're vacuums. They're massive, just like all these collection areas around the bunkers, just funnel everything into them.

And it's just one of the most expertly designed golf courses I've ever played. And we're going to get a heavy dose of it here of the next three years. We're all better off for it. Randy, I was saying some of the bunkers or like the, the concept of the bunkers is almost like a NFL, wide receiver prospect or like a you know really really long-limbed wing in the NBA like the catch radius is so freaking wide just so much wider than the actually suck the ball of them

which yeah yeah yeah um and then uh mark darvin basically said you know full steam ahead on rollback we would like to you know stay aligned with augustin national in the rna on that front um there's a This is all per the Jeff Shackleford's newsletter as well. He said the World Cup final is taking place the same day as the Open Championship final round this year. So possibly having to move up tea times, don't think it'll be an issue, but we'll see that. The Masters Code of Conduct policy that earned Sergio and On Course Warning. I know that the tour and the Masters and the USGA and the RNA have tried to be in lockstep on like,

hey, this is, let's get kind of a unified code of conduct in place here. It sounds like they're, you know, the RNA is looking towards putting something similar in place. He said, Darbin said, Port Marnik is a more complicated venue than they, you know, it's taken them slightly longer than they initially envisaged, but, you know, there's, there's hope there. that they're going to take one there. So, uh, anyway,

lots, lots going on on the RNA front. And then, uh, what else we got? I mean, Sally, we played Burkdale.

Yeah, we got eyes on Royal Burkdale, um, the changes that have been made there as well. And it was, uh, I think it was my fourth time playing at TC. And it was,

um, the definite like, um, I don't know, I've kind of always, I don't want to say I've underappreciated Burkdale. I, there's no bad open venues.

There's no bad golf courses. It just, it has never stood out to me as something really special. And this time playing it, kind of the order we played it, we played it last. We did get there and it was like, okay, this is a really, really, really good golf course. Just the way it's set in the dunes and how unique that is to that area. And there's not dunes at Royal Lhythm like this. There's not dunes at Royal Liverpool like this.

And the way the whole set and use the dunes and kind of just where the green sit kind of just a little bit in a corner and make it a little bit less accessible than a normal links golf course. It just was a really, really stern championship test. And it got me that much more jacked up. We're going to have a full video ahead of the Open Championship as well, detailing all three of these golf courses we played, and we got a ton of footage, and we break it down in a lot of ways. But Burkdale was bucking, man.

And it's so pure right now. The conditions in that part of the world are amazing. Every, every shot you hit that hit the fairway, like all five of my shots this week that hit the fairway, dust flew up everywhere. like every time it's awesome and i know it's a long ways to go before the open but if they get a nice run up this year it's going to be an all-timer man it's going to be really really good i think uh yeah burkdale's got got something else going on just as far as like there's a there's another

variable there with the little bit more elevation change and dune scape um yeah i've never seen port rush before but yeah burkdale i think i was pretty taken by it the first time we played it and remained so i do think the i like that i like like the changes they've made to five, you know, drivable, drivable four, that'll be a cool spot in the round. I didn't love, was it 14 and 15? Change 14 to par 5 and then 15's a new part 3. 14 was a part 3.

They took that out and are kind of staging, kind of a big fan area there and a chipping area there. So you skip the old 14th, par 5, 15th. The go get that hole is now the 14th. Then they added a part three, the new 15th hole. And just kind of, that part wasn't the, wasn't the highlight, I wouldn't say. I think the 14th green feels overshaped. You know, just a little bit too.

Yeah, it just doesn't really, it just feels a little bit out of place. And then 15, the new par three didn't like it straight up. It just, it just wasn't for me. Just wasn't in key. And there's a massive grand, or massive hospital. corporate hospitality behind it that just doesn't feel like the open. It feels like something you'd see at a PGA championship. All that's say,

it's still excellent venue. Like a little, a lot for us and a little, a little, but yeah, yeah, it's going to be a really good one to. Yeah,

I just, I don't know, I just continue to be a little bit surprised by the, the R&A's, you know, just blind, not blind loyalty, but,

but, really, really strong loyalty to McKenzie and Ebert. And that's after playing Liverpool, too. Like they're making stuff that like really does not blend in well with the rest of the golf course. And it sounds like a super snobby take that I'm always hesitant to make. Then you get to like the 15th hole at Liverpool, which is now the 17th hole or the 17th hole during the open. Like a lot of the whining about that hole. And you get there and kind of like, eh, all right, I kind of see where you're coming from because this isn't just isn't really blending.

with the rest of the golf course. But anyways, we got a lot of time to get into a lot of open championship stuff ahead. Do you guys like how I laid it out? Originally it was supposed to be, Hoy Lake was last, Burkdale was first. Liz was always in the middle. This was great.

It would have been great in any case. But yeah, I think Hoy Lake was a great, like, Hoy Lake to me was, you know, it was so firm, but kind of reminds me in certain spots of Roll, Melbourne West, where like it's less about distance, and more like you don't need to hit driver off of a 440 yard hole like it's it's very much about placement and precision and thoughtfulness off the tee especially in those first six or seven

holes it was yeah that was perfect cody i thought it was rough was down a little bit at liverpool so off the plane that was like the a good little intro uh and then litham was just like 35 constant in your face i don't know how i'm going to will a three-foot or in kind of wind uh and berkdale was kind of a balance between the two. I'm not going to lie, Salé was pretty intimidated by all the, all the portraits of Sevy. A lot of Sevy going on.

Great man. A lot of Sevy going on. With the conditions, T.C., I feel like we need to convene the open, maybe this week. I think it's like get to get over there and let's get it started. Yeah.

Well, the conditions are ripe. If they played in what we played in, Randy, not a player would break bar. Not one. It was sick. Not one. I don't care how good there. 64 the first day.

for not one remember tc he said that like t c in harburtown was saying how can i meant lhythm i mean burkdale day wasn't nearly as hard if they'd have played lhythm in what we played it in for four days nobody would have broke bar none of the old boys were out there playing randy yeah okay wow only the warriors and then last last thing was just the pebble beach randy had to be thrilled here they added a tree sir they added a second tree i think they replaced it right right it was yeah lost it replaced the tree well the fact that they they waited what eight years or something to replace it okay um trees and fairways are sick i i maintain that i'm glad they went through the trouble of putting a new one in a little little bit more down the fairway

from the t-box as well i two thumbs up for me yeah i mean the other one was kind of not in play really anymore so it makes all the sense in the world so All right, guys, I said we do under two hours. I don't think we just barely, barely quite didn't make it. I'm sorry. Thank you, everyone for tuning. We got a big week ahead. Another signature event on the PGA Tour calendar, Quail Hollow.

We have live golf, Virginia, got the Missouho America's Open. Mountain Ridge, great golf course. Nobody's heard of that one. The LPGA Tour, Catalonia Championship on the DP World Tour. I'm off next weekend, actually. So you guys have a lot of fun without me. Say that again? It's going to be a party.

Yeah. I let you guys have some fun. Party and Charlotte, baby. We will have a U.S. National Development Program video. Our guy Neil became the kid again this past week. That'll be a video out on our YouTube channel this coming week. And then we're reheating our concept we did for the Masters this year. We drafted the best PGAs of all time.

Different exercise than the Masters, if I may say. But that episode will be out. Tuesday as well. Maybe a bonus episode out this week as well on Thursday, assuming things all go to plan there as well. Also, thanks to everybody who reached out with criticisms, compliments, concerns, threats about my dream 18. Some electric feedback on that. Check that out. If you have not already on our podcast feed, T.C. went through his dream 18 holes of golf in the world has to match the whole number of the course. I had to have played the course.

Had to have played it and couldn't have more than one from the same course. Great exercise. And I'm terrified to dive into it as well. But I want to give a shout to our friends at Footjoin Titleist, of course, high noon and holderness and born. Cody, one of the ones and twos, Matt on the social. Big Randy, T.C. and Neil for joining here as well. We'll see you back here next week for yet another live show.

We're going to be spulunking in the content caves this week, collecting stuff up. It's going to be a great stretch run here in these coming months. So buckle in. Thanks for one for tuning in. We'll see you back here next week. Cheers. And thanks also to Luke.