No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1153: Best PGA Championship Draft

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

Soly, DJ, Neil and TC are back to draft the best PGA Championships of all-time before we bring on three friends of the pod - and subject matter experts - to decide who had the best draft. Support our Sponsors: Titleist Loch Lomond Whiskies If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Nest⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠nolayingup.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club today. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the no laying up podcast. Sali here.

Got another draft best of major championships. You guys seem to really dig when we drafted our favorite majors, best majors into our collection. We did it again for the PGA championship. Very different exercise. We break down all of that here. as we get into it. We got three new judges this time around, so stick around to the end to see who actually wins the greatest collection draft of PGA championships. We might as well just do these for all four majors this year, assuming this is going to continue to be a hit.

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Oh, yeah, it was a complete sweepstakes. It is kind of true. We could quibble with how he did it, but it is definitely true. A bunch of simps. We are back here to draft our best PGA. favorite PGAs. Uh, it is, you know, did you want to explain the, the, if people maybe missed the master's draft, explain kind of the thought process of how we're doing this.

Yeah, I think we started just trying to get people frothed up for the masters, which is, which is turns out very easy to do, right? And so we're just kind of like, well, you know, let's get in a digital room and just start chopping it up about old masters. Everybody pick your favorites, put together a little collection. And then that went well. And we kind of painted ourselves into a corner, I feel like, where it's like, well, Now we got to do the PGA. And it's just a very different exercise, T.C. I mean, this is a, this is a very different situation.

Yeah. I've never felt more confident that the PGA should just blow everything up. Rethink, rethink at all. A lot of golf courses that don't exist anymore. A lot of golf courses in Ohio, as you mentioned. A lot of random places in New York, PJ National. NCR. In August, PJ National in all.

that they did in 1987. I learned a little bit about the PGA. One, I learned my memories about this tournament are not nearly as strong as they were, you know, maybe the US opens or even open championships. A lot of, man, that really happened? That totally happened. A lot of bad AI in this one too.

I hope you guys didn't use too much AI. I didn't use any AI. I just want to get that on the record right now. No AI ever here. I just like use it to like look some stuff up. It's like, oh, so and so beat so and someone to playoff. I'm like, really? like i would have known that and it turned out that did not happen so yeah i saw some this this uh major

championship at medina pulled tiger woods equal with jack nicholas uh for for all-time majors i was like i don't think that's quite true so yeah we had to kind of just go back to this back to the drawing board there there were a few in here that were they were like oh i was on vacation i was on summer vacation for that i just straight up didn't know that happened yeah i felt that way to tc i'm also really curious to see where tc goes because some of the best ones that I some of the ones I think are the best are just that courses TC has to you know just disowned disgraced it's like where where will he draw the line neal's Neil's gonna pick belrieve and well I was gonna say there's one course name that comes up a lot a lot

it's how kind of kind of unavoidable yeah it's gonna be a really interesting one because I feel like this is this is all it's all predicated on your strategy we might just be running in four different directions here I don't know how much we're going to it's going to be a land grab over the tiger stuff are some people just going to concede that stuff it's just it's very interesting uh next hour we got ahead of us some so he's going to dig up so despite being extremely transparent with the process last time these guys did what they do were sore losers whined about the judges uh corruption simps i believe was the phrase that came about uh no historians as we go to record this one uh we only have one judge officially lined

up that is max homa hopefully i still coded tiger simp that's that's a good point me look up max home of pj championship results real quick uh we're gonna get some more historical people involved of this one and you know we'll you'll see at the end kind of who our judges are because you'll learn we we don't know that as as a recording right now but that's good that's even even more just cook your food tc i'm gonna know i'm worried and we need somebody in the 31 000 because this is a pga of america here. Here's the only hesitation I have here is just based on the, you know, the outlandish kind of, you know, childish behavior you guys put forth after the last one, like the chance to act childish between recording and deciding the judges, like trying to, you know, oh, I drafted

historical. That means we need to get this guy. I'm, I need this guy to be my judge. I can see that coming. Historical exercise. I think we could gerrymander the judges if we all get to pick one. Yeah. No, we're not all picking one. You know what? I might have to outsource this to Cody. I think. Yeah. Don Ray's not doing anything. Get him. No, I'm going to get Seth. Really? Get him in the building. He's got a dog in this fight anymore. You're going to have to draft the Kegan one. If that's the case, if you're taking Seth. What the, okay, so explain the collection, Dege, again, what are, what are we draft? If we're drafting this, you want the best collection of PGA championships, but kind of explain that, that kind of process. Well, I think this just kind of naturally, uh, happened last time where it's like the, the, the analogy we kept using was like records on a shelf, right? You're trying to, you're trying to amass some collectibles, which is much easier again with the masters. Uh, I think that it is necessarily with the PJ championship, even though there's far more PJ championships, I guess slightly slightly more. Uh, but yeah. So I think we were kind of looking at it. You know, Randy was trying to have these unique championships. That's where he's where he's, you know, you know, he went with his collection for the masters it was he picked one of once as he's

he's hovid masters he picked the first international winner i forget what other bad bad the first masters ever the first masters uh horton here's a who uh and i don't know something else uh that he had neal you know had a good a good one go until he freaked out at the end he had great winners jack tiger my girl gavie she saw what i was doing i i went that that i'll dany will it i'm i'm standing by that one i had in my collection I had a bunch of feel-good records, you know, Rory, Spieth, you know, Ben Crenshaw, things of that nature. But it's more than just a winner. Like, that's an important. Well, I don't think the judges understood that.

That's more than just a winner. It's the process of adding to the winner. You see, had the bad boys. That's right. That's right. At some point, you're just going to come to terms of your collection sucked. Well, T.C. went with the bad boys, which was, yeah, it's just a very unfodd collection, you know. What are you talking about? Oh, El Cabrera, Phil.

you know get peeve right that's right yeah i forget who else was on that oh great norman's collapse in 96 uh and then sally kind of just you know in that vacuum of of of strategy soli just kind of picked up all the all the bangers and all the best masters yeah yeah which is great you know congratulations this is more interesting though because i think you got a you got to you got a lobby a little bit more uh and i'm not talking about the back room dealing you guys are going to be doing on of course but like you got a lobby for the for the history of the one that you're choosing because it's not everything rolls off the tongue of like oh yeah i forgot about that it's kind of like oh i'm just now learning about this uh particular pg i did not know this happened uh you have to make the case for some of these i'm anticipating because yeah

the memories are in this rich neil you'll you'll pick's 1935 johnny revolta beats Tommy armor uh would that be Tommy armor the second you no the first the only the way the armor boys work the silver scott was the original he was he's goaded number two was a doctor unelv team doctor not very good at golf three kind of goaded for 25 30 year pro and then four you know he's not he's goaded but he's not not that not that other way yeah so they think that that v five will be goaded at golf that's it's it skips a generation that's really good so we we said this we're going to do the draft order for this in in order of how you finished in our master's pool not the master's draft but our master's

pool that we did ahead of that you guys let me get rory and cam young at the snake into that who won that surprise surprise that was yeah that one was rigged too yeah i don't know how but it was rigged he's winning you guys got all the good draft picks and you left me rory and cam yug thanks for that you guys let me bryson and john rob i don't know how that yeah that didn't go so well so all that to say the order will be me the neal then tc then dj randy's uny able to be with us today because he is on vacation. Yeah, he hates the PJs. He's conjecture to the PJ championship as well.

We will be snaking from there. So DJ will go five, TC six, Neil seven, I'm eight. And then we will repeat the process all the way to four rounds, four rounds, a collection of four PGA championships. Unless we decide to add a fifth. Yeah, unless you really hate your teams that you try to do it, the master's draft, which only made my team stronger. So do that.

Would you pick up with your last? when we did max oh that's right i think you beat your whole team for sure he definitely did any macro pj championship takeaways we want to want to get on the record or you want those just come out naturally match play was sick that's the big one for me it was glory's last chance uh i think added added juice to this major or is a shot last shot last hole i mean yeah choose your own adventure there i'm seeing some some you know what i meant you know some uh there's some blue blood clubs here there's some places that that aren't so blue like keller i think that's like the yeah in minnesota there's miami valley country club uh sally which i don't think i ever even

heard of that we went to school right down the road from that that was a banger who won that one like Sam Sneed or something? I had that one. Lionel. Oh, that's what I was. That's what I was. Oh, man.

Yeah. Al Finsterwald. He shows up. He shows up a lot in when I'm doing these deep dives. It, so there's not a lot of media resources available for a lot of these. So in terms of like rewatchables, it's like kind of like you kind of just got to take our word for it. If we pick it.

Yeah. Or you can't even trust us. I haven't been able to go back and rewatch these. It's like scraped together YouTube highlights, maybe. Even going back into the 90s. Like they just don't have much of. anything. So that's going to make it quite a challenge and maybe make it more fun as well. I think the U.S. Open and British Open will be easier to do than this one was.

But really, it's a bizarre tournament, bizarre history. It is even weirder now that it's in May. I think, I think it had a little bit more identity in August. I could not believe they played the 1987. It was 97 degrees in August in South Florida. They had the PGA championship there. They'd had it there previously in South Florida. They played it in February back in the early 70s, but they played it in August in 87. Did not see that. Jay National designed specifically for this event, I believe.

That's right. Is that where you're going with your first pick? Solly 87? It is not. It is not. God, I'm fascinated with where Sally goes with the first pick. Oh, you know where we're going with the first pick. He's going with Valhalla.

We have the watch. I will see you at Valhalla. Give me the 2000 PGA championship. Same thing. Okay. It's the greatest of our life of our lifetimes. It's like, I can't quibble with it. The most rewatchable, bad attire, cotton shirts in hot, humid as Kentucky in August.

So many memorable moments of this one, Tiger running after the put in the playoff. Bob May shooting 66, 66, 66 in the final three rounds to not win TCs. That's going to make it more valuable in your count. Tiger's got to make it more valuable in your count. Tiger's got to make the seven-footer to get into the playoffs and my mom can make that put. Bob May's put that Ken Venturi gave up on on the way to the hole on 18. The guy allegedly kicking the ball down the hill. The Sam's throwing Tiger's ball back in the play.

Tiger played with Jack the first couple of days. That was Jack's last PGA almost hold out on Friday for Eagle on 18 to try to make the cut. This is clear cut number one. Best PGA championship of all time. I'm taking ball haul. Tiger winning three majors. in a year is notable. On his way, the Tiger Slam.

Yeah. And that one, this was, and this was at least a close one compared to the first two that he won of 2000. At the old course and at Pebble Beach, he won by a combined 23 shots, I think, off top of my head. So him getting a challenger and having a B Bob May was... Trapp draw alumnus, Bob May. Trapp draw, Alumnus, Bob May.

I told you forget it. Remember for a while, the trap draw had a great run going where the only guests were people who had lost major championship playoffs. They bottled it. Yeah. Vandeveld, things of that nature. Well, Bob made journeymen, but also like standout junior golfer, learned on that trap dry episode.

I think you could make an argument where this fell being Tiger's third major that year, just 2000. Like this, I mean, was this peak golf with the excitement of that event? You know what I mean? Just like, was that like the high watermark of the cat just changing the game? Neil, I remember watching this with you and the franchise. Yeah. And dad be like,

Who is this guy? I don't know. Who is this guy? He's going toe to to a tiger. This is crazy. Bob made just this. This is a perfect, perfect PGA championship character as well. You know, you go through a lot of these older, these older PGAs and they're pretty identity lists. You know, there's a lot of somewhat anonymous dudes that that come up and have their moment. And it's, uh, and some of them win like Rich Bean. Yeah. You know, they belly dance on the 18th green. Yeah, exactly. So it's a, yeah, I don't know. It's a great pick.

What do you want me to say? I won this one, Master's Week. All right. Thank you for this one. All right. It's my pick, correct? Correct. Guys, I am going,

lots happened the last five years, but I'm going with the 2021 PGA championship at Kiowa. Bill Mickelson, age 50 wins. And I don't think that I have spent enough time thinking about how fucking crazy this was. I love Kyua. I like watching these guys play Kiowa. I think it's an awesome major championship venue. One of the, you know, I don't take the shuttle, man.

Yeah, other than the media shuttle, which I have not experienced. Surprise that didn't hold it back in your, in your rankings. That's got to hurt. But I mean, oldest major winner ever. I think he was ranked like outside the top 100 at the time, like 200 to 1 to win the tournament. I mean, I just think back to like the little stuff, like, chewing like heavy CBD gum going on. he's wearing the aviators he's talking about pel's nines pel's eight you know just with his brother's the caddy he just kind of like pulled off some mental warfare with brooks in that final

round it felt like he was just being very mindful slowing the pace down it was like right before phil turned into a villain and it was like oh my god this guy's a savant and and then the scene it was right after covid the scene on on 18 Brooks is completely lost in the crowd i thought he's someone's like blow his knee out he was like all upset afterwards we got the early in the week we got the bryson walking behind brooks uh and brooks just be like god this fucking guy you know while he's like live with todd lewis there was just this was a fantastic fantastic major championship week in general and then for phil to win it as the oldest major winner and then just go on to like turn into the joker uh is it's just something that we need to

double click on a little bit more so i'm taking that with my second pick also just I mean, how unlikely, not only based on his form and his place in the game and all of that, how unlikely it was, but how unlikely for him to win at that golf course, too. Yeah. I mean, it was set up. It was like the long. I think the longest venue in major history at the time. I don't know if that's been changed since. And it's just, you know, you drive it wild.

You have no chance. Like that type of goal. That course is so hard. 50 year old Phil Mickelson is the last man standing. It's, it's, it's un. I'm totally with you and that I'm like, I need to car. out time. I need to put this on my calendar. Like, guys, I need to block out two weeks. I just need to dive into how this happened because I don't think I've ever really processed it.

How many top tens on the PGA tour for Phil in 2021? Zero. Outside of this event, this is only top 10. And this was like a year after. Remember he, he went to the Ozarks and just dominated the champions. Yeah, he was playing champions tour that year. That's right. And everyone is just mentally like, oh, just we're moved on that that part's over. But I'm glad he's glad he's cruising. It had over there on the Champions tour that he yeah comes back and plays tour events and and and out of absolutely nowhere yeah Corey Congress was first round leader Phil finished t 20 in February of 2021 at the Coligard classic but prior to this and then went and won the

PGA he won the PGA he won a major championship it didn't sniff making that year's writer cup team was so how random this year was so sick it's so sick and and i just have these memories like these almost like uh slideshow memories of of these scenes of fills just like with his eyes closed behind the ball like it was it was like namestation where you're like god he's just like mentally willing himself into hitting these shots it was it was incredible and oh my god it was awesome so yeah lots happened since then but that was we don't talk about it enough totally agree T.C. I know. No idea what's coming. I don't either. I'm between two right now. And I am going to go with the 1974 PGA Championship at Tanglewood in, I don't even know where it is. North Carolina. Yeah, it's like in the, it's in Forsyth County, North Carolina.

Clemens, North Carolina of Winston-Salem. It's like a true muni. And I remember Golfers Journal did a piece on this. forever ago and just like the pictures of this it's so jarring all the like all the caddies are wearing these yellow jumpsuits Trevino wins by one stroke over Jack Nicholas it's it just feels like like Ray Floyd is first round leader you got Sam Sneed who's 62 years old at the time finishes tied for third for his third consecutive top ten finishing the event this championship coincided with the resignation of president nixon who left office on the friday of the event just a lot of like a very specific place in time for our country and for for golf specifically got ray floyd hubert green tom watson jim colbert you know

all them kind of involved here dave hill gary player finishes solo seventh out guy burger uh it's like the pictures really set this one off for me when I when I looked at everything. I'm like, man, that's it truly felt like almost like Mike Davis, maybe before Mike Davis was even Mike Davis as far as we're going to play this thing on a true muni. I don't know. I don't like I've never heard anything about that course ever since. Never laid eyes on it. It's it's yeah, I'm just fascinated by it. So I think this was was this the one where Trevino had to quote, uh, you know, I'm not going to be intimidated by any course, especially what owed by the taxpayers.

which is just all-time stuff. Well, going to, Jack, I mean, was 75. He was kind of hekeen. I feel like, didn't he win the Masters? That was like 70. Yeah, Trevino. You're a supporter that he found in his friend's attic only a couple days before.

He's staying at like this rental property with some people. It's, yeah, he had won three putt the whole week, the 71st hole. And the course kind of stood up to, it was a minus four, like Trevino one by one. over Jack. There were only three guys under par for the week. Our kind of major championship. That's right. Episode 768 of the No Laying Up podcast has a lot of details from Lee Trevino talking about this. And now he's choking. He like putted at, he three putted the 71st

hole. Yeah. And then just like put it out of turn on 18 because he was so nervous. He's like, yeah, I'm going to go ahead and finish this. Like, let me go ahead. And then I'll clean that up. You end up winning by one. Oh, good stuff. I mean, maybe a reach there, T.C. I think that one was going to. Let's come back for that one. Yeah. Round three, bud.

I kind of just fucked up my whole board because I just assumed I was planning on, on, you know, obviously this one being gone. But like, I was almost going to concede and just make like a political statement. And just just really like lean into what the PGA needs to be. Just go really, really academic with it. But gosh, now that. 1991 is on the board like how do I not take that I like a player player wouldn't talk to trevino he was like too serious and trevino and he were greener just chatting away the whole time yeah i'm going to go ahead and take 1991 crooked stick obviously right i mean john daily

ninth alternate everybody knows the story found out when he was in memphis uh the the night before i think he found out at like five o'clock on wednesday that he was getting in ended up having to drive straight to Indiana to get to Cricket Stick. Didn't even play a practice round. No idea what he's doing. Nick Price was one of the guys that dropped out. So he ended up hiring his caddy, Jeff Medlin

to loop for him. And the guy, I mean, yeah, in a sentence, ninth alternate comes in out of nowhere with no practice round and wins the PJ Championship. It's whooping up the crowd. The guy with the long blonde mullet hitting it 2,000 yards off the tee. I mean, it's just a

true movie stuff. Right? Was that there? What'd you say? He was boozing down the stretch to like calm his nerves, I thought. No, that was, I don't think he was in that one. I think he... Things started to go south in 94.

Yeah. PGA, four season deep dives. He was sober by 94 in theory. And I was still getting fights with people. Yeah, it wasn't going great. Yeah. Nevertheless, we're back in 1991, everything is... Things was a group.

Things are great. We're on the way up. Pretty, pretty fairy tale stuff. I mean, just, I don't know, probably like the biggest, uh, how is this not a movie moment in golf history? One of them, you know, it's just a, like Phil's unlikely of a winner, but Phil's also Phil. You know, this is like, uh, just even even crazier in a lot of ways.

So, uh, first year on CBS sports in 25 years. They've been on ABC. There you go. Good ratings boost. Yeah, 76, I think. Macro question. Do you think PGA, I know we've had some random open championship winners, but more Cinderella stories for PGA than any other major?

Like this, a rich beam, you know, is that, would you just dictate that? Sean McKeel, exactly. Jason or even Keegan winning his first one. Yeah. Is that just because the field's so big? I think there's something there with the masters of even when, like, setting maybe Danny Willett aside, even when a Cinderella, wins the Masters. He comes back every year for the rest of his career and he feels like less of a

Cinderella because he becomes so much more familiar in your consciousness. Yeah, I also think he's there. I mean, maybe it's just because we just came off of the Masters, but there's also just so much course history and course knowledge that goes into that particular golf course that it feels like it's veterans that have been around for a long time that end up winning there. Whereas the PGA, different course. every year. It's not necessarily the toughest test in golf like the U.S. Open, which I think

weeds a lot of people out. So it's kind of just like it's like what is it? Random field, random courses. Yeah, I mean, I think this kind of speaks to the whole the whole problem with it. It would just be really hot in Florida. Yeah. Go to Oklahoma. A lot of the summer. Yeah. So I'll take

1991. I think that's a great pick. I love that pick. I was going to take it was, I was between that one. It wasn't weird enough. just didn't have the chance they didn't have the opportunity to take that one no i think i i appreciate it uh i think with my second one i am gonna i think this one's kind of a no brain or two i'm gonna take go all the way back i'm gonna take 1927 wow this is walter hagan winning his fourth consecutive title guy just i mean he just wrecked everybody i was gonna do a two-way kind of 1923 and 1927 because in 1923 he

lost in the finals to Eugenio Saracini, also known as Gene Saracen. And after that, he just didn't lose for four straight PGA championships. And again, consider that these are match play. And not only are they match play, they are a 36-hole qualifier on Monday for seating. And then a 36-hole match on Tuesday, and then a 36-hole match on Wednesday, and then a 36-hole match on Thursday and Friday and Saturday. And you just ended up playing so much golf. And Walter Hagen over that next stretch went, I think, 30 and one, would that be?

I mean, it was just like, just jarring, jarring stuff. And I also like 1927 because it's the last year that he got away with his want to maker trophy scheme. Are you guys familiar with this? No. So after he won, I believe it was in 1925, he went out to party. he put the want to maker trophy in a cab and he told the cab driver like just take this to my hotel and just leave it there the cab driver obviously didn't do that just kept it so when he came back the next year and he was supposed to turn the trophy in they basically were like you know where

where's the want to maker trophy's like oh I didn't bring it because like I'm going to win anyways doesn't matter and then he did and then the next year he showed up he was like yeah I didn't bring it again because I'm going to win anyways and he did and then it was finally not until like 1928 that he was like uh yeah I got to tell you I lost it like three years. years ago. Sorry. They had to make a new one, a, uh, a replica. But yeah, just a, I mean, just a really, really unfucking believable streak, especially in match play to just go four straight years and not get beaten is big, big, big stuff. Uh, Walter Hagan was the original pro. For sure. Just the, you know, like bagger vance, that movie definitely helps him in this,

or helps his, my perception of them of just like kind of a, uh, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, a, a, a true professional. Well, a professional entertainer, right? I think he would do enough stuff like the showing up in tuxedos and looking like he'd been out all night and sometimes he had and sometimes it was for show. And there was just a lot of stuff that was like, if people are believing my myth, they're going to want to watch me play golf a lot more. And then I mean, there's just a million stories. It don't necessarily tie to 1927, but like him giving his winners check to the caddy because he was making, he was the highest paid person like outside of Hollywood, basically, at this time. It was just like there's so many awesome Walter Hagan stories. And so I got to take him

winning his his record fourth straight PGA. He beat Joe Tarnessa. There's like hundreds of Ternessa. Ternessa brothers. Jim Ternessa later loses to Sam Sneed in 42. And then Jim Trenessa ends up winning in 52, a big spring country club in Louisville. And also this one's at Cedar Crest. Exactly. in Dallas Dallas which is you know tilling has design that you can still go play and it's in October which is sensical right it's like back when we were doing things right when the world made sense exactly so I'm and I also think you know there's unintention but I mean John Daly and Walter Hagen I think just they go together well I feel like I kind of lucked into a nice little duo there for any of the judges that want to see it that way so I feel great great great about

about where I'm at here after round one and one and a fourth. Guys, any idea where we're going next? No, do you let you don't have many at home. I do. This one's been, again, we're not, we're not drafting best available. We're drafting for need here. Still in specific needs. Okay, sure. Physician need, got it.

We're going to Kettering Ohio, Dayton, Neil. I think, I think mom was in attendance for this. I think, I think mom was 15 years old, went over with Jean Cunk. Drove over from Springfield to NCR Country Club. NCR, yep. To watch one Raymond Floyd take down Gary Player in 1969. You've got during the tournament's third round, there were demonstrators, civil rights demonstrators that tried to disrupt the play.

They were throwing ice in players face. They were yelling while, you know, Jack was playing. Security was stepped up there into Sunday. this was also the first player's or a PGA after the the great schism like

professional golfers association breaks off from from the PGA of America so this was 26 year old Ray Floyd young buck yeah yeah and like I would have loved to have seen

just a moment in time would have loved to have seen a 26 year old Ray Floyd steely as fuck just staring down the charlatan Gary Player, that little ass, that little ass man, Gary Player. Ray Floyd just, just mean mugging him the whole time. It would have been epic.

Can you admit? You would not have been thrown ice at Gary Player, though? I could have you. I would not have been thrown ice at anybody. I can't have you followed into that, Kay. Ali, this also marked the permanent move of the PGA to August. What was the demonstration? Was it about a part?

Was that what was about civil rights. So I think here, this is per the AP. 11 civil rights demonstrators were arrested Saturday after attempts to disrupt the third round of the PGA golf championship. The main incident occurred at the 10th hole after Gary Player of South Africa and Jack Nicholas, both in contention had hit the green. A shaggy-haired white youth appeared on the green and walked toward player. He was taken into custody by security police. Six other men broke through the restraining routes. There was a brief scuffle.

Paul Price, chief of the security force, said he had been told that player was knocked down in the melee. Player later denied it. The civil rights group known as the Dayton Organization and headed by Mel Jackson that threatened to disrupt the tournament unless a list of 27 demands were met. It's too many.

These demands included 3,000 free tickets to the tournament, free access of all citizens to private clubs, an end of the Vietnam War, and monies for the poor equal to that. paid out for this tournament. I feel like there's one real big one slipped in there amongst the free tickets to the golf tournament. The PGA event carries a total prize list of $175,000 with 35k going to the winner. The demonstrators held off through the first two days, making only token appearances at the

gates, then swarmed onto the course on Saturday when the event was televised nationally by ABC. The first incident came at the third hole when player paired with Jack Nicholas started to hit his ball off the tea. A heavy program book was tossed onto the green. A man was apprehended by security, but later released when he could not be definitively identified as the offender. On the ninth hole, one of the demonstrators yelled just as Nicholas prepared to putt, and another tossed a cup of water at player who proceeded to three putt for a double boge. Two players proceeded to the 10th hole where the major outbreak occurred. And then the player was stomping or stopping over to line up a 15 foot putt when a white man strode to the center of the green then six black men broke through the ropes there was a brief scuffle and player fell to the ground the seven men were arrested player proceeded to sink the putt for a birdie putting him in a thick contention for the tournament lead held by ray floyd nicholas sink an eight foot birdie put right behind him and it and just keeps going on and on and on the offenders are scampering into the crowd and all all that sort of thing i was wondering what what positional need does this fill for you tis

C. Just chaos. Like just madness. Chaos. You know, characters. Ray Floyd, Gary Player. Notice how no one's rested with Ray Floyd. Even the protesters.

It's like nobody mess with Ray Floyd. That's ever. Yeah, yeah. Let's go after player, not him. You had, you know, you had, Miller Barber finished T5, Charles Couty, Orville Moody. All the hitters were out there.

So Floyd, Floyd shot 74 to, to win by. I won. Gosh. And it was the all-time attendance record. It was 106,000 for all days, 80,000 for just the four rounds of tournament days. So it was lit. There were any tickets to give away.

Like that's true. About that. Love to get her. If she was there, her perspective on the proceedings. National. That was interesting. Great, great selection, T.C. Good one.

All right. I, God, I love the, I surprised this one fell to me. I'm going 1995, gentlemen. Steve Elkington wins in a playoff over Colin Montgomery at Riviera Country Club. I was hoping this was going to fall to me, Neil. Awesome course. Just two characters, just two of the great characters of our time, you know, or before our time. But, I mean, Elk, like the best storyteller in golf, Monty, this is probably, I mean, I know,

a few U.S. opens, but this was a tough one for him because he didn't really lose this one. He just got straight up beat. So Elks started six shots back. Balls out. He's got a great, I was watching a clip this morning of him recounting this round. He's like, I'm just hitting these beautiful fades, you know, just phase. I was worried about two T shots, the one on five and the one on 13 where he had to hit a draw. He does it. He points out the second shot and the 13 is the best golf shot he's ever hit. Like if I have to go to one shot where my body's doing exactly just exactly what I want just elk go go it's on like secret tour youtube channel secret go watch this secret golf yeah his

god that was great it was like the original uh content he was like the original golf content creator yeah he's just walking through his round and there's nothing better than when elk gets on a roll telling a story so he hits his awesome shot in the 13 pin high and uh i think he shot 64 so he's got the lead in the clubhouse monte one putts the last three holes he makes a bomb on 18 to get into a playoff so Monty charges, gets into this playoff. Elk tells the story how he's like, I didn't want to take a cart back to the T and stand back there with Monty.

So I walked, he just walked back down 18 for the playoff, made Monty wait on him. And then he tees off first, hits the fairway, hits the green, makes like a 30-foot bomb for Bertie. And Monty played the whole well.

He just got beat. Based on my memory of that, the video highlighted of that when he's walking back, Ken Venturi, like, freaks out. He's like, look at this. Look at this. He's walking back. I love this move.

love this move. Yeah, he's just strolling down the center of the fairway back to the tee for the playoff. And Monty's in a cart, you know, Monty's got no hat on. He's all like sweaty and red in the face, just like a Pillsbury doughboy. It's just such a good juxtposition. You know, Elks got the visor on. It's, it's a swaggy. He's got a swaggy look going. And just to win his, uh, his only major at a big boy ballpark, this is one. I might have to dedicate a little bit more time to watching the old, old highlights of this one. It's what I didn't watch this one, but it feels like, God, this is everything I'm asking for here. Ball striking.

Ball striking, awesome course. Playoff. You got Monty. You don't. And then you look back like, damn, man, that was probably the one. Even though you got beat, you didn't lose this one. Like, that was a primo chance for Monty to get a major. So that's good stuff there.

That's great. I think, I mean, you know, obligatory shout out of, of elk talking about Monty, going to Houston Baptist. Of course. All the great. That's just. So many good ancillary, you know, moments to this one, too. If you have it, you're worth a relisten to the Monty NLU pod when he came over to the Kill House and just showered us in stories. Who knows if they're true or not?

I mean, just all-time stuff. Even if they're just a little bit true, they're incredible stories. Not a man alive can eat that much custard and clip me on the back nine. So what happened? Oh, I rolled him four and five. Five and four. Oh, I rolled them. Give me another.

God, are we going to paint solid just getting all four? tiger ones no i don't know bet he goes 99 here for tiger pgAs are not as uh you know as amazing as the as the master's ones um god i really there's like there's like i think there's like i'm like tied for there's 10 that i could do here that are all kind of equal and i was yeah there's like a bunch kind of in the sameish category of like they're they're not they're not spectacular at this point and i'm worried about being having too much recency bias with some of them but there's definitely is some reasons he buys. That's going to be a little bit of my strategy. I think it's we're going off. I like to do stuff from my my lifetime that I that I remember and have some memories of the collection.

I was to cook his flavors. I get that. That's the collection I want. Molecular astronomy. Yeah, exactly. Liquid nitrogen out. The 2022 BGA at Southern Hills was remarkable. It had everything. It had 70 second hole leader last group on the golf course. You make a par and you are a major chance. champion forever. That guy's retired from golf now. Um, Mito Pereira got electrocuted and, uh, went in the water. May Dolvogine didn't make the playoff, which Justin Thomas, whose win probability got below 1% I think at one point on that Sunday, him in a playoff with Will Zalotaurus, a three whole playoff that was epic. JT. hits an incredible three wood, drives the green on 17. Let's lose an outrageous twirl with that one goes on to win that one in a playoff. Uh, that PGA got moved.

It was supposed to be at Bedminster, and it got moved to Southern Hills because of January 6th, just like 15 months, 16 months prior. That's a tough one for T.C. to not have. It is going to have to settle for Shull Creek instead. Which one is. Spoilers, T. Come on. So I, yeah, recent, you know, in 100 years, are we going to look back at this as maybe one the best ones ever? I don't know. But, like, I remember the drama of that one and the excitement of that one. And that was, the people, the people, DJ has had a good run in recent years of some pretty pretty pretty good drama at the end even if the venues haven't been the best in Southern Hills was one the best venues we've seen for this championship in recent years so we were also on the call for that one solid we were did we call that one no no we use that we use that like a dress rehearsal okay so we like right called fake golf we weren't total Jumokes I remember so I was like that just uh sometimes I get a little worn out with like like the restoration video you know like course preview stuff but just remember like seeing what

gil did to southern hills and the way he restored it or renovated it was i remember like damn this looks sick like this is the golf course was the star for me that week as well yeah yeah the green's a little slower because they're you know more heavily contoured and had some challenging pin positions that week and um that was that was a that was a great that was a great tournament i have a lot of memories of watching that one um and so Oh, gosh, where do we go with this next? I'm not going to get another pick for a while. What is still going to be here?

All right, I'm going to take this one. I'm going to take 2010 at Whistling Straits. Oh, interesting. This is Martin Kimer ultimately won this in a playoff with Bubble Watson. This is, of course, the infamous Dustin Johnson incident, grounding the club in what was later ruled to be a bunker, which everybody felt really bad for him. also was very clear, clearly outlined prior that this was a bunker.

Just absolute chaos. Nick Watney shoots like 80 in the final round and the final group had a chance to win that one. We got, you know, people don't really even remember Kimer winning that as much as they do like Bubba busting onto the scene in this one and the infamous Dustin Johnson incident. Didn't Rory finish like T3 or something at that one? Rory missed a put on 18 that would have put him in the playoff like a put 10 feetish if I remember right that would have put him in the playoff. This one just this one had a lot.

A lot was going on at Whistling Straits between 2004 and really in 2015. And this one was one of the most dramatic PGAs that we'll have in our lifetime. Poor dust. So. Coming off Pebble Beach that same year too. I mean, it's just just brutal. Triple bogey on the final hole. And a bogey would have put him in a playoff.

I don't know. He had a punt that he thought was to win the championship. Missed it. Thought he's going to the playoff. Turns out he ground the club in the bunker. And then just that image. of the rules official with his hand on his shoulder. I'm like, yeah, you're not in, dude.

And then I remember going back in 2015. Jason Day for Jason Day. And they had put a grandstand up over that bunker so that nobody could go and take pictures. I remember I had to like work my way through the netting to like go underneath there and took a photo of the bunker underneath. But yeah. And that, we get to that point.

Like, all right, maybe that wasn't a bunker. Yeah. It might not have been super integral to the design. They should have just played everything. I think by 2050 they play everything as waste. Yeah. I feel like, okay. Yeah, that probably was the way to go on that one.

So I think you reached on that one. I'm going to say it. Yeah. I think there's a lot of other good stuff out there. He probably already won, though. It doesn't matter. No way, man. I mean, that was, and this, okay, talking about cooking your flavors.

This is in that, this is a blackout period for me. Because all these were going on during football camp. Yeah. From 2008, 2009, 2007, like, I'm like, oh, Patrick Harrington won. I didn't see I have zero I've never seen a shot from any Padrake Harrington back to back we're not back to back but he had that run in 2008 I'm just like oh fuck man I don't even know what were Oakland hills like you know and then 2009 I didn't really see the Y Yang stuff 2010 uh total blind spot for me so congratulations on that one uh 2011 I did see that one because

we were we went uh big Randy came down to Atlanta we went to that one it was so hot that the seats melted and like the paint melted on the seats and i remember sitting up and there's green paint all over my ass who was randy was we were sitting in the grandstand behind like stephen gallagher stephen yeah it's just dog and stephen gallager just like total drive-by and it's like who is this who is this club pro this lady's like looking back at us giving randy this stink guy find out that that's his wife that was cool uh all right i'm going I'm taking 2014, baby. It's great.

Roarie at Valhalla. Just some, you know, electric clothing. You got a lot of big names in this one. You got Phil. You have playing through Phil on 18. We have light issues. Are we going to get it in weather? Just Valhalla delivers.

Water features, all of it. I think this was, you know, God, you think about it all the time for those 10 years of Rory didn't win one. You're like, go back and watch this film, dude. You were the dude. just go do that what are you doing one of the biggest power moves of all time joining the final group there yeah guys i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna play up here okay you guys about wrapped up here yeah see i was worried about vahala concentration here nil for me and that that day just kind of stunk

was where i netted out of like the the rain delay and they went way past the coverage window and they had to like rush to finish it and i mean it was really great leaderboard with some excitement but just the way the pGA bungled that one i was like i don't know if i can have this well well I remember the ending being a ton of excitement because of it ended up working out where it was like stop and go. But the, and then the golf with Phil and Ricky was really good. Like that was a good group. Those two were like friendly and it was almost they were like having a good time and they were playing great golf. And then, you know, Rory's like the big bad boy behind him.

You know, just comes in and, you know, snatch his victory from him. So I have good memories of that one. And I'm going with 2014. Good stuff. Let's see here. Through my big board, we got... I'm starting to see a path to victory, T.C., depending on what you do here. We got Henry Picard going extra hold in 39.

We've got Jug McSpadden getting outlast. Talked about Jugge McSpadden. We got all the, you know, we got Trevino winning at Shoal Creek, which I thought was pretty poignant. We've got the night, you know, the 1990 Shole Creek admits, you know what? These are my people. Best fans in golf. Give me 2018. Bell Reeve.

We're doing it to him. Brooks gets it done. Shoots, what do you shoot? 66. 66 on the weekend to win. You got the cat involved. I like, listen, I'm told, I'm told by these people that that as long as the leaderboard is really good, it means it's a great golf course.

So it must be, it's a great venue. You got Tiger involved, Adam Scott, Stu Sink. John Rom. J.T. was in the mix for a little bit. Gary Woodland. I just remember it being really hot. The crowds were massive. Going into the day, I think Brooks had a four-shot lead over Adam Scott, Justin Thomas, Gary Woodland. And, you know, at the halfway point, things are, Brooks is still in control, has a three-shot lead. You know, it had gotten down to one through five holes and then he kind of you know he started making birdies he buried five of his last 12 holes and took control but it was he was just he was hitting good shots i remember him this was like

peak brooks right it was this the second consecutive one he'd won beth page a year before or you know that page the year after and he was a little he won the u.s open the year before yeah not shaky's not the right word but it wasn't as dominant at beth page down the stretch it was like uh he had he kind of hung on to one i i feel like i remember that it won back-to-back u.s opens yeah 17 18 yeah so this was i don't know this just this felt like very much a a true pGA championship in the sense of great leaderboard they're setting it up for you know it's not it's not too too difficult they're setting up for scoring minus 16 wins um it's hot as shit but massive crowds in a in a kind of an underserved midwestern golf market that seems like kind of the recipe that that the pga of americans

had for success there from kind of these glory days of the late 90s into uh glory's last shot man mid 2010 last 10th last chance um yeah listen i'm trying to endear myself to the people of st louis because we have to go there later this year for the bmw championship for the bmvue championship it was the third hole i think uh part three if i remember right this when tiger stuffed it into that pin one of the loudest like gallery sounds I can recall of a Sunday, like a tiger chart. Like that was just such a real tiger charge on that day. I think he bogeied what, what hold he bogey in the backman?

He bogeed six and he bogeed 14. Okay. And he didn't Bertie was 17 to par five. Like he had a chance in this one. He shot 64 with with a bogey on the back nine and a par on a par five. And I feel like I remember Brooks hitting just like a five, four or five iron into one of the par three's on the back that was just like. like a, you know, uh, lights out lights out. It's a re-stone special like just deep cavernous.

Damn, he hits like 10 feet from like, you know, 2.40 or whatever, you know, whatever it was. It's hot balls, balls jumping out there. I, T.C. I think you're so right on that feels like the day they've been chasing at the PGA for, for a long time with a lot of these other setups. You know, it's like that's, that's what they're hoping to get at Quail Hollow. So they're hoping they kind of sort of got whiffs of it at Val Hollow. with, you know, Zander and Bryson. That was a great, great finish as well. But like there's, that was it.

That was when all of the things, like even in a, in a quote unquote, bad situation, as far as golf course and all of that, like, when it all clicks, like, none of that really matters. And I think that's the prototype for how that can work. Yeah. So I'm playing a little bit to the simps here of late career tigers involved. You know, give me some points on that note. But yeah, like even like Southern Hills felt like kind of a shootout down the stretch, but the winning score was only five under. You know, that was more of a hang on for dear life. And the course was a little bit slower as well. Yeah, it's good stuff. I think Belrieve. It's goll if pro golf's club championship, you know, we need to get the horse race involved. Get all the members out there in carts chasing down the final group. Deage that's right.

Yeah. It's not about the course, T.C. It's about the hang. Okay. all right my pick on the snake here last two last two for you god I love I love where I'm at all right well Tc I will do one cater to the simps as well I will take 99 at Medina had to do it to him had to do it to him you know that's a you got surgery tiger's 23 Sergio's 19 epic duel tiger finally closes them out we all know the shot you know from from behind the tree that Sergio hits tiger's just fully arrived, you know, this is, this is the, uh, paying off all of the promise and just foreshadowing everything that's about to come, uh, the, the following year, uh, just great stuff.

You know, I, I don't know if we didn't say too much more about about 1999. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's, you out on that. That you see it. He just did the same thing. Uh, he didn't take tiger.

The tiger didn't win that one. He directly took tiger. He was trying to, he was trying to draft off a tiger in 2018. And then with my last pick, I'm going to go off the board. a little bit and this was one that i did not know a lot about until i started reading about it but i'm going to take nineteen hundred and seventy seven yeah was this on your on your short list pebble beach at pebble beach lany wakkins he beats jean litler uh in a sudden death playoff couple a couple notable facts about this one first of all it's the first major ever decided

by a sudden death playoff uh and it had always been 18 whole playoffs 36 whole playoffs come back the next day of stuff this this PGA in particular was the first ever sudden death playoff which is cool stuff only time the PJ has ever been at pebble beach i think maybe the only like the second time it was ever in uh california and then also tc i it was it was only the second major ever held at pebble beach as well that's right yeah 72 u.s open right yeah um this was another one i did not i was not familiar with uh but before the start of the championship there were a bunch of guys who's irons were deemed non-conforming, who were deemed to have non-conforming grooves. Most notably those of Tom Watson, who had already won the Masters and the British Open that year,

was trying to become the first person to win three majors in the same year since Ben Hogan in 1953. So Watson had to play with like this set of like borrowed irons in the first round. I ended up shooting 68 in the first round and finished kind of just out of the playoff. but notably would never go on to win a PGA. So like at the peak of his powers, when he's playing his best golf, kind of had this weird curveball hit him at a place that obviously he likes would go on to win the US Open there five years later,

which was very interesting. But other people without that had nonconforming gurus, Ray Floyd, Haylor, and Gary player, Tom Weisskopf. I just, dudes. Yeah. I feel like we're,

you know, we've had some of the driver stuff, right? the last couple years, but just would love a good, like, Wednesday equipment. Oh, yeah, by the, by the way, this person had to throw out their whole bag. Like this stuff doesn't really happen as, as dramatically anymore. But Gene Littler, I think, I think a cancer survivor, if, if memory serves was, you know, so there's some emotionality there to him coming up just short.

Lanny, just a fascinating character in, in the, the history of golf. So I think that gives me a really nice collection here between 91. We got we got Walter Hagen. We've got a Tiger win. We've got Lanny at Pebble Beach. Sign me up. That's better than I thought I was going to do. I'll take it.

I'm going to 1951. We're going to Oakmont. Sam Sneed at Oakmont. And this was the third of his PGA wins. I think he was like 39 at the time. And it was it was still you know match play obviously and Sneed Eagles the first hole And then just goes on cruise control for the it beats the shit out of this guy Beats the shit out of this guy Walter Berkimo seven and six

Sneed three equals one yeah 36 whole match eagles won and makes 15 pars and two bogies the rest of the day in the morning round. And then afternoon round, birdies won, birdies two, pars out, wins seven and six after he had beat Jackie Burke Jr. in the first, first in the quarterfinals, Charlie Bassler, nine and eight, beat him in the semis, nine and eight guys, believe that. It's an ass kicking.

And, Sallie, you got to think, Sneed, you know, this is not too, too far from West Virginia. kind of, you know, we're in that part of the country. He won another one of these at Hermitage Country Club in Richmond. But yeah, you got, you know, you got Johnny Bola, you got Reggie Miles, Ellsworth, Vines, all sorts of characters here. But listen, we're playing, we're playing 18 holes Friday in the first two rounds. Like, we're playing 36 holes Friday, 36 holes Saturday, 36 holes Sunday, 36 holes Monday, and 36 whole final on Tuesday. at Oakmont. We're playing real fucking golf out here, boys.

Just getting a note here from Cody, Walter Berkimo had two purple hearts, including one for the Battle of the Bulge. How about that? It's been better. Like, we got real, we got real adults. He's pamper-fucks, T.C.

I didn't play in this thing. I knew Walter in your oxhole. I'll tell you that. I knew there was a reason that I remembered this one, and it was because this one, I think, ended on July 3, 3rd and the the British Open started on July 4th this year which was at rural Port Rush. I remember that from our

Port Rush stuff. So just there were so many of these. I had a when Jack won in I don't think you guys are going to take this one but if you are I'm sorry. When Jack won in 63 it was like the it was the reverse where the British Open was the week before and he had to fly straight to the PGA championship in Dallas where it was like 150 degrees and hold on to win his when his first one but just scheduling like just a bit of a Kyle Porter Memphis there it is and it also just seems maybe this is a bad projection by me but like it seems like the world's probably less complicated back that just seems generally like there's

less stuff going on you like how the fuck are we scheduling these back-to-back weeks what are we doing might not have been a lot of communication between the government bodies back then but burkimo i mean shout out to him for battle the bold shout out he made he made six birdies sneed only made two birdies in an eagle but he just made a ton he pard him to death greg parman and can you imagine how hot it was in early july and they're playing 36 holes a day day after day after day at oakmont brutal it's crazy so there was another one i almost had in my list uh tc and 42 i think sam sneed won and he said it was the most meaningful victory because he like uh world war two obviously getting ready to to pop off and he uh he had a report for duty the day after that the day after

he won uh the pga uh just no idea what was what lied ahead for him so just a lot of and berkemo i think went went on to win another one too after after this crushing defeat i think listen i i will put my my list of champions trevino floyd kepka slamming sammy is good against anybody's they will beat the shit at you great men tccicality on that list real jocks dudes we don't make them like that anymore. Oh, man. All right. I got a couple directions I could go. I could, you know, are we going to cook our flavors? I think we are. I'm going David Tom's

2001 Atlanta Athletic Club. He sees working. He's one of those stupid little volunteers. Saturday. He makes a hole in 15 on Saturday. He got Shingo Katayama with the straw hat going nuts when he makes the hole in one. doing the bowl dance, feel on the flow. The AT-Eleans are going berserk. He's absolutely at the Highlands course

at Atlanta Athletic Club. Phil Mickelsons. You want to talk about a slog of a golf course. For sure. But I thought this was a good one. Tom lays up on 18, hitting a rough off the tee, lays up,

hits a wedge like, what, 10, 12 feet. Makes a really good put to hold off Phil. I think I remember Phil missing a shorty on 17 in the group ahead. and so he's won back and then David Tom's holds on for the win. But, you know, kind of a seminal moment.

My golf life, just the hometown tournament and, you know, older brothers out there working. I don't think I went to this tournament, but I watched like every second I could on TV. Yeah, and David Tom's not the most exciting winner, but what a great career he had, man. I think 13 PGA Tour wins. One of this place, Neil.

Yeah. It's just a memorable tournament. Made a quad on the last hole to win. to still win by four yeah a little bit a little bit of comfort food for me here guys i don't know if it was on anyone else's big board but uh you know it's a bit of a ches rivi pick you know you give me give me 11 david tom's wins okay we can win with that dee okay hustle play as we'll see yeah you know i watched way too much golf that week i was i was i was volunteering i think i had like four volunteer shifts and then um i remember watching i was in the merch tent

Any notable memories? Big March 10. I remember following Steve Flesh one morning. Any jack in waist? I think he made like a triple or a quad on on. There was a par four or par three over water on the front. Three or four or five. You went absolutely ape shit when he went in the water.

That's a really big walk out there too. Tiger didn't play well. I remember following him for a couple days. But yeah, that was like, I remember going, I think I went seven days in a row. T.C., did they make you pay for your uniform? I think they did. Yeah. Hate that.

David Duval was fifth. No, no, sorry. That was after the third round. It was David Tom's, Phil Mickelson, Steve Lowry. Calqueveci has T4 with Shingo Katayama. I watched a lot of Calc. Duval finished T-10. Good pick, yeah.

Thank you. That was one of the first. for the that was one for the person i want that one for me yeah one for me you know welcome to come over and watch any time with me d i'm all right thanks i'm hoping you guys keep going because i don't i i'm so indecisive i love it he's on his back home finally the same list that i would have taken uh spots in my uh if he's last last go around like you guys didn't take any of the ones i wanted other david thoms i kind of wanted that one but oh that makes me feel better i could come over and watch that one sally

I could go, you know, any Greg Norman failures would probably play pretty well here. 86 and 93 are sitting there. You know, I could go more a cow at Harding Park. That was a really, really good one. But two from this decade would be. No, no fans. That's, yeah, no fans. Great shot.

Great shot. Colin, great shot. Gary Player. This thing was supposed to be at Brentwood Country Club out. Yeah, TCF senior list. I'm good on your recommendation. They had a Caucasian-only policy, so they moved it to a Ronomink. Gary Player wins. It's a good guy.

You know what? I'm going to go a little off the board with this one, but this was a great and fun PGA. It entered, it bridged us into a new character in golf. He did not win it, but somebody who would become a pretty popular player over the couple of years. What I think it is. And he would later become a PGA champion just a couple years later after this one. Oh, no. 2011 at Atlanta Athletic Club. Kegan Bradley is your winner. He was a rookie on the PGA tour that year.

First major. First major. His first major he'd ever played. He made a triple on the 16th or 17th hole on Sunday and still battle back to win in a playoff against Duffner. That was an extremely chaotic Sunday and a very memorable golf tournament. Duffner putt up hit the putt on 18 and went like 18 feet past the hole. whatever that was. It was a complete disaster. But, uh, Kegan, that Kagan year was a special year.

And I remember really, really hard for Jason Duffner. He was absolutely flagging it everywhere. Uh, they both stuffed it in there on that first playoff hole, a three whole playoff at Atlanta athletic club. And that one's ingrained in my memory. So, um, I don't, you know, I don't know if the numbers necessarily will say this. I don't know if anyone over that tournament and the one that he wanted Oak Hill. I don't know if anyone's ever flushed their irons, Tiger included. I don't know if anyone's ever flush their irons more than Duffner for that like 36 whole stretch. And they looked so disinterest doing it.

It's just so crazy. Everything was just five feet. I remember when we were there that what the Saturday we saw. I wasn't familiar with Duffner's game. I remember watching them like T off on 10 and Randy. I were like, God, I love this guy's apathy. This is good stuff. Well, the year before I went to the 2010 U.S. Open at Pebble Beach

and I ran into a college friend of ours, TC, Ben Walter. I hadn't seen him since college. Totally ran into him out of nowhere. Like, what do you have to? Man, I was like, oh, I live in Chicago and I'm working, whatever. I'm like, what are you up to? He's like, oh, I'm actually an agent out here. I'm like, oh, no way.

That's so cool. Who do you represent? He's like, oh, that guy right there, Jason Duffner. You just look over this like super disinterested guy with the belly hanging up, never heard of the guy before. I was like, oh, cool, man. That's cool. I'm glad you're out there doing it.

And then like a year later, Duff is just like, so I'm going nuts. I'm obviously following Duffer. career from that point on i'm going absolutely apeshit as he's rallied uh it was kind of out of nowhere that he he was even involved in that one and then kind of his rise came shortly after that when he ultimately you know wins it at o'kill uh in 2013 but uh i had i just got a kick out of that like oh really cool man a year later the guys almost wouldn't ben walter one of the foremost menaces of our time in intramural flag football absolutely he would just get spat it up and he had the whole just everything on playing for a

Fitah. Also, Luke Clinton's agent. That's right. That's right. So that's it. I can't believe we didn't get a dawn January, Don Massengale.

Playoff. It's on my short list. Shame on you, T.C. And Dan Sykes. Yeah, you went for the Simp route in 2018. You got to own that. No. No shout out to the Herbert brothers,

who both wanted PGAs, like just a couple years apart from each other, including one of them, the last master. match play champion little little tiny as jerry barber we did get can i can i just read this one this is not on my list but this was probably the next one would have picked 1961 you guys look into this one olympia fields jerry barber uh i heard i saw his his height listed is five foot three and five foot five so i'm obviously going to believe five foot three uh this is how he

played the last three holes of this tournament uh on 16 does that olympia fields uh he hit a four wood to 20 feet made birdie on 17 he topped his drive barely hit it 100 yards had to hit a forward uh up there to like 90 yards short of the green wedged on to 40 feet hit like a bad wedge made that and then on 18 he needed birdie it was like almost dark hits a three iron like 60 feet makes that in the darkness to force the playoff he ends of winning in a playoff it's a little little tiny ass jerry barber i love i love that one get count jerry barbara wish i had 11 of those guys Put him on the list with David Thames. Ches.

Get them on my team. So our final rosters. My team is 2000 Valhalla, Tiger Woods, 22, Southern Hills with JT, 2020-2010 Whistling Straits with Martin Kimer in the Dustin Johnson category, 2011 Atlanta Athletic Club, Kegan Bradley. You feel good about that?

Solly's trying to get a bunch of like 15 to 25-year-olds to be the judges. Like you're not. not going to try to stack the deck with some olds with the judging process of what you came up with came up with here uh do i feel good about that collection no not really but i think that's more of a sign of the pGA than it is my own draft it's hard to feel good about any sort of yeah um i went i went listen i my my strategy was clear i went with something that people are going to have some memories of like i don't sorry djohn memories the 1961 pGA i'm sure it was great a history respecter yeah i am a history history history respecter i just don't never seen it it's not

one of my favorites it's never seen it don't know anything about it so i think about 1927 all the time all the time one of my favorite golf tournaments uh neil went 2021 with phil 1995 was steve elkington at rib 2014 volhala and rory 2001 with david tom's atlantic club my that's really good you really had me through the first two i feel like you're your your last two selections you lost me well you just hate Valhalla that so I don't yeah I'm fine with that I'm I I feel great about my recs read C's yeah 1974 would lead Trevino nice a great in the first round rhod uh 2018 Brooks Kepka at belrieve in 1951 uh I don't remember okay mom Sam Sne oh come on sir Steve no no you're a West Virginia and sally T C went with

with with strapping lads DJ went all 1900s with his 1991 John Daly 1927 Walter Hagen 1999 Tiger Woods Simp in 1977 that's good which was Lany Walker's a really good I got no arguments here's Dage I we should have done we should do match play for for the judges at this one and Sally there's a great 1969 highlight package on on Miami Valley Golf, their archives on YouTube, the National Cash Register Company presenting the 1969, PGA Championship.

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Learn more at locklomanwiskeys.com or ask for Lockloman at your preferred spirits retailer. Back to the pod. All right, we're back. We got our results. They're in. It is time to hear from the judges. We have trimmed the judging pool down from five to three. We have all brand new judges.

These are a surprise here to our, to the, my brethren that are joining me. But first up, we are going to hear from one, uh, frequent PGA championship participant and current, uh, PGA tour player.

That is Max Homa. He has listened to the podcast. Potassium. He has listened to the podcast and here are his rankings. Just also saying for video purposes, this is a little blurry. We did our best, but the audio works totally fine. What's up guys? Max Homa here, no media affiliation.

Coming into rank, everybody, want to get this out of the way first. When I hear best tournament, best PJ championship, I typically my brain goes to, you know, the most exciting, something memorable, not necessarily the winner. I would like to point out that you guys actually mentioned to not think about just the winner in the beginning of this podcast. I feel like that might have gotten forgotten. during your rankings. So quickly, TC fourth, obviously. Could have got the 74 Trevino, PGA, and the 12th round. Not going with consensus.

That works. The third was a crazy pick. However, I will say that when you hit that, I was pretty excited for your theme to be crazy golf tournaments, memorable golf tournaments. And I thought that your next pick would have been, I know you hate Valhalla, but Valhalla where the number one player in the world got arrested.

and the rest of the week was crazy. The tournament turned out to be amazing as well. No one picked that. I don't know how. That one's going to really bother me for a while. But then after that, you picked the stinkiest, one of the stinkiest PGAs, even though the leaderboard was good at Bel Reef.

And then you picked Snead last, who the tournament, as you mentioned, I mean, none of the matches seemed particularly close. So I didn't really understand the theme or any of that. Wow. Third place, I'm going with DJ. DJ kind of similarly.

Hagen winning four in a row is cool. That's all I kind of got from that. The Hagan won again. The 99-Modine is very good tournament. That was a fun, exciting one. But in general, I thought that it was kind of just trying to reach for the lesser-known ones. John Daly, ninth alternate?

Even in your explanations, I tried, but there wasn't a ton in there that got me gassed up. It was very difficult to go between first and second. I very much like Solly's list in that there was chaos involved. Bob May picks easy. The Bob May year, that's just too easy. But, you know, the DJ year with the bunker is all-time banger. There's just a lot of chaos in that. I will say, though, that with Neil picking the 14 PGA,

that's one of the craziest altruins I've ever watched with, you know, them kind of letting Rory hit up, but I don't think Phil wanted them to hit up. Is it great? And it was finished in the dark, and it was one of the craziest scenes I can remember. And I think that, you know, to DJ's point about doing this in match, but I think that one was kind of the tiebreaker, especially considering. and David Tombs is here at Atlanta Athletic Club versus the Keegan Duffner year. They were both crazy, but that whole one just sits deep in my head.

So I've got TC4, DJ3, Sully 2, Neil 1. Good job. Let's go, baby. We're on the board. Here we go. I don't know if I see a path to victory after that. I was feeling pretty good coming in, but that's a tough punch to the mouth there. All right. Next up, we are going to visit our old friend Michael Wolf, aka Wolfie, the historian of the bunch.

Yeah, this was, I think T.C. was drafting specifically hoping that Wolfie would be. Pandering. He's a historical simp. T.C.'s a historian sim. A lot of sipping going on here. So here's Wolfie. Hey, folks, it's your old buddy Wolfie. I'm by old. I'm assuming that's why I'm here because I am old, despite my boyish good books. I'm almost 60 years old. Can you guys believe that? So here to offer some historical perspective on the picks. And I've got to say, good job, guys. You guys kind of nailed on this one, which makes judging it kind of hard. If I was making a list from a historical perspective,

I think like 13 or 14 of the 16 picks that you guys made would have been on my list of the top 13 or 14. So good job. Same with the top ones. So getting right to it. I've got DJ number one. I've got TC number two. I've got Neal's 3 and I've got Solly 4.

And I don't think it's a coincidence. I'll also line up with the draft order in reverse. I think the snake draft really helped DJ and TC in this with being able to kind of put some thought into how they managed, you know, having back-to-back picks, particularly in that first round for DJ. But really, there are no losers in this one. It's all pretty good.

Yeah, no major mistakes. stakes. Neil with his seventh pick with Elk at Riviera, I like the idea that a couple of you did with picking some courses that now would probably appear on U.S. Open Rodas, but for a while, the PGA kind of had it going a little bit more with the host courses. I like that, but I think for Riviera, I probably would have picked House Sutton over a charging Jack Nicholas in 1983 at Riv. I also didn't love Sully's last pick with Key, ACC, maybe a little Atlanta bias rubbing off on them from the Schuster brothers there. I gave that pick a C, but really everything else is kind of bangers here.

So that's solely finished last mostly just because of that Kegan ACC. I think he could have done like Bobby Nichols over Jack and Arnie in 1964, right in your backyard at Columbus Country Club, or you could have gone like with Brooks if you wanted something a little more modern, all your picks were 2000 on. You could have gone with like Brooks over Shuffler and. Hovland at Oak Hill. Good winner, good runners up, good course. Pretty exciting tournament, 2023. Or really, the other one, nobody that didn't find its way on there that from historical perspective I might have put on would have been Y. Yang over Tiger just because how shocking

that was at the time and, you know, this guy coming out of nowhere and, I mean, kind of peak Tiger 2009. Everything else, though, I've got pretty much matched up with you, what you guys have. DJ won, like I say, I love the kind of mix of, you know, he's got 1927, he's got 1927, he's got 1991. Good mix there, good mix of winners. T.C., kind of the same thing. Loved the 1974 Trevino over Jack at Tanglewood. I thought the Brooks at Bill Reeve was the steel of the draft that it fell all the way to the third round. That could have easily been a first round tick.

And then took it up Sneed at Oakmont to kind of, you know, round out his His roster there was enough to put him in two spot. Neil, no major mistakes, but just, you know, again, kind of like Sully, I think going second and then seventh, tenth, tenth, and then 15th. That kind of hurt him a little bit. But yeah, overall, great job, guys. A couple fun facts for you. I think you mentioned, you know, on Walter Hagen and the four Pete that DJ had for his fifth pick. Could have been the fourth pick, but one clerical correction there, which is that Walter Hagen,

Hagen was a bum. Let's not overdue the whole, you know, arrived into the first tea an hour late was, you know, stepping out of a Rolls-Royce, you know, with a blonde on his arm and, you know, with a half-drunk bottle of champagne. Waterhagen didn't make any child support payments the whole time he was traveling. He had a kid at home and a, you know, first wife that he just abandoned and didn't support him financially. So on Walter Hagen. Also, in his waning years, his last wife, that took care of him while he was failing health and all that stuff. He never changed his will to leave her anything. So she got kicked out of the house as soon as he died that she thought she owned.

And Water Hogan was a bum. And let's not forget that. But the man could play golf. This was your winner, Wolfie? The only other guy to win four majors in a row was Young Tong Morris, when in four British, in this century, in the last 100 years, the only other guys that have won even three majors in a row were Peter Thompson. at the British in 1954, 55, 56, and then a little asterisk, which was Ben Hogan.

He won the U.S. Open in 48, 50, and 51. The reason he didn't win it in 49 is most of you probably know. He literally got hit by a bus. So Rory was a chance to make some real history next year at Augusta National and see if he can win three in a row. He'd be the only the fourth guy this century to win even three in a row. So Walter Hagen won in four in a row. Good job, but Walter Hagen was a bum. The rest of you, though, good job on this.

I feel like we have to like DQ DJ after that, you know. Oh, he's a piece of dumb DG. He gets up to first. Retweets do not equal endorsements. I'm not saying he's a good guy. The record straight on Hagan. Hagan. I just need to get this out there.

Hagan stinks. That's good stuff. We might have to do a recount on, on, uh, the masters as well. I just love that Salli's element to it got got by Keegan again. Yeah. Just keeps getting let the key can get the best of them. You guys are forgetting that I hated my team

as soon as it was drafted. I feel I feel no tie to any of these results at all. I feel no pride in this compared to the Masters, which was very easily the best, the best collection. I feel like Wolfie can't undid Max's whole platform there. That was so sick. That was a really a detonation of Maxx more than anything.

You got Trubino the 12th round. All right. Last up, we had to get a PGA champion. We need somebody that has very close ties to this championship. Of course, it attends the PGA champions dinner all the time. He's calling in, I think, from the sky trailer. So he's a little quiet. Giving his review, he's a little embarrassed that he had to do this for us.

But he gave us a lot. There's a lot of insight in this one. This is a long one. Our final judge, guest judge, is Rich Beam 2002 PGA champion. Hello, boys. hopefully this is what you're after. Wow. Tiger Birdie's last four holes in 2002.

Still can't win. Yet I don't get an... I mean, I can mention it. A horrible mention of that. I mean, I get it. What does a guy need to do? Hold off the greatest player of our generation. You're fine, baby, you're fine.

Too funny. All right, here we go. You're looking at this list and I was listening to you guys and you guys are funny about all this and I get PGA championship is a little bit odd the fact that you know it's it's hard to pick up anything super memorable most of the stuff is going to come in as a blake just because we haven't been able to see we don't have the history we don't keep the same kind of TV records and all that fun stuff as the masters do so I get it it's a little bit it's weird it's strange you know and I'm a big

proponent of thick defender of the PGA always have been all it will be obviously for very obvious reason. But still, there's plenty of memorable moments. I remember there as a kid, but then again, first I remember, first I ever remember it was 86 Masters, Jack Nichols winning. That's when I kind of paid attention to the majors.

But my second one was 1991, when John Daly wore. And so with that, and the Lanny Watkins in 1999 Tiger Woods versus Sergio, I played in that one that year that shot the Sergio of it the entire held on. DJ wins this one. DJ wins it. Let's go.

That's the ones that stand out the most. I think they're the best ones there. From there, I'm kind of torn between T.C. And solid.

Neil, you're going to finish dead last come. You get the BFL Pact. of all times. I'm sorry, but the picture. He's at trocious. That's what I'm going to go with TC on this one.

And that one's going to come out of that. And the reason is, is that figures a specific one. Sorry, I'm reading your guys' notes from yesterday. Let me see here. The TC wins because of the 1974 Trevino one. This is for personal reasons. I interviewed Lillivino not so long ago for the PGA of America. And he kind of told me about that tournament.

And what, there was his first ever PGA win. and had a connection with the PJ of America through his good friend Bill Hesherbrenner. And he was telling me about that tournament. And he said, after like the first round, he's like, this golf course isn't for good. He's like, he hits the ball in low and flat and likes to chase it in there. But the golf course, obviously, being in August, very soft. And he said the greens were about as bad he's ever seen a green in your life. It said that you were atrocious.

So he had to adjust his game. He had to start flying the golf ball and to the hole. which is he said I hated doing that but I had to make some adjustments and then went out there and one and you're right on that that putt on the 72nd all he was so scared so nervous he got up there brushed in and the nicholas had like an AC putter if that tied and obviously so there you know so TC gets a second one sally you pick some solid ones here let me go through my list here the one you I mean you got it correct the one of ball haul in 2000 that's one of the ones that you have to think you have to look at

says all the, you know, the toughness of who Tiger Woods really was. That shows both. And everybody kind of thought that that Bob Bay, you know, even when he made that putt, you know, they thought that, you know, that Tiger putt that was ever say, what was a given. That was no gimmie. That was probably one of the tougher you butts,

tougher puss that, you know, you would have to win, I mean, much less get into a playoff. And Bob May literally almost took that one way from Tiger Mac. Like I say, stole it because he earned it. He earned the right to be where he was, but he nearly took it from Tiber, which we would have missed one of the greatest puts of all time, him chasing it in and pointing his finger at it. You know, that's just one of the best.

Southern Hills, I love that part. That was a great finish, tragic in one end, but a great finish to the other one. There's so many good ones out there. You know, I think that when a Keel was with Mickelson, 2001, I was kind of going back to some of the list. For Neil, you did pick a good one, Neil. But that's the only one. Sorry.

I was there. It was extraordinary to see it. And the fact that the way that Phil won, I remember watching him, I think it was a 12th hole. He hit, I think it was a second shot, I think. He hit like a nine iron from, we're seven iron from by one, thirty five or something. Still, and to this day, it makes a vivid immigrant in my mind. in my mind of how a golf shot should be hit. It was glorious.

I think if you go back, I'll look at the video. It was the 12th hole. He sat there, you conversed with his brother, Caddy, for a long time. And he got up there and hit this just stunning, stunning little shot in there to about 15 feet. I believe he went on to make the put. But I just kind of thought, wow, we talked about Phil. trying to gain distance and he had the driver there that week because he might have had two drivers

i think he had like a 47 inch long as you can get into 45 but that shot right there was just like man that it was really good but listen guys that was a lot of fun i enjoyed doing all that but uh my clear-cut winner on this once again sorry we got uh we got dj dj wins and and again i think that i should have an asterisk and if something well buddies. Thanks. Bye. What a thrill. What a thrill. What a drive by. Jeez. Not a fan. Play better, man. I don't know what to tell you. God. That was great. What does the tally look like? The tally goes. I am in the last with an average finish of third. And then T.C. and Neil tied at 2.66. The tiebreaker goes to Neil because he got a first place vote. And then DJ. is our winner with an average ranking of 1.66 fed two first place votes. Didn't Wolfie give me a first place food?

No, TC. You were second. You were not. You were second. Okay. Yeah. Almost. Closest you could have been to a first place vote without getting one.

But paste it, solid. God, I opened up. I birdie the first. You never do that. Exactly. Downhill from there, double the last. That sucks. Deed said he didn't see a path to victory, but he is indeed our champion. Shocking. Shocking. Great, great. You know, I had to put my trust in the in the older judges for a little bit of sense of history. And, you know, I felt really good about my team walking off that that draft. And yeah, just kind of, I kind of felt like I doubled the first day with Max's, just flicking me in the nuts. But I'll take the, you know, I'll take Beamer and and Wolfie at any day. That's that's that's high praise coming from those two students of the game on sims. Yeah. You know, Max probably not a fan of the of the Jacksonville.

wire's draft either. It is not going consensus, going our own way, and we'll see what happens. We will, indeed. All right, that's going to do it for best PJ championship's draft. Thank you guys for tuning in. We'll have another episode for you later this week. If all things go as planned.

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