No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1168: Nelly wins the U.S. Women's Open, JT Poston breaks through at Memorial

Episode Date: June 8, 2026

Nelly has done it! We recap a thrilling and nerve-wracking U.S. Women's Open at Riviera, including the dramatic final putt and the ups and downs from the day. We break down our week on site, what this... means for Nelly's career, an updated over/under on majors, and a ton more. We also catch up on JT Poston's playoff win at Memorial, check-in on some player's form ahead of Shinnecock, the hilarious finish to the KLM Open, some more bad LIV news, and a lot more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Be the right club. Be the right club today. Yeah. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up Live show,
Starting point is 00:00:34 presented as always by our friends at Titleist. Guys, maybe the most action-packed week of the year in golf. We have so much to discuss. Solly, joined by my guy, Mr. T.C. Hello, TC. Hey, Sally. What a, what a day. What a day of golf. I mean, I'm flabbergasted by what we just witnessed. Big Randy is here. Hello, Big Randy. Yeah, what a day. God, so much going on here. Can't wait to get into it. As mentioned, we have a massive show tonight going to be recapping the U.S. Women's Open at Riviera.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Some details from our week on the grounds out there in L.A. Memorial tournament as well. A chaotic finish on the DP World Tour, live golf onto Lucia, some live news, just a lot, a lot, a lot to get to. Of course, Nelly Carter, your winner of the U.S. Women's Open. J.T. Post is your winner at the Memorial.
Starting point is 00:01:29 He put on a ball striking clinic to win in extra holes. JT's equipment setup starts with his new ProVU1X left dash golf ball, which he first put into play at last week's Charles Schwab. JT was previously playing ProVU1X, was looking for lower spin in his eye, irons and wedges following some recent speed gains. The dash profile fit perfectly.
Starting point is 00:01:48 He's loved the performance through the wind, highlighted by his seven under 65 on Friday, a day that Justin Thomas said was probably the most difficult he's ever played on tour. Over eight strokes gained on approach this week for the postman as well. Also among the winning setup is JT's new GTS3 driver, gives him the best combination of speed, distance, and stability. Excuse me, I start talking GTS. I get excited.
Starting point is 00:02:12 He's one of the over 65. players currently gaming new GTS drivers on the PGA Tour. His win also makes it nine PGA tour wins for Titleist drivers, driver players since March 8th. Go to Titles.com to find a fitting near you, get your bagged out in. You got to try the GTS. It's out of control. It's out of control. Good. I'm putting all of my stock and equity into the endorsement of the GTS driver. It's the best I've ever hit. But Randy, take us out to L.A. Give us a summary. You got to be concise on this one because we got a lot to discuss tonight. I mean, I hope everybody was watching.
Starting point is 00:02:46 I know everybody tuned in right now. We'll have watched. Some people listening tomorrow will have not watched. So I'm going to try to walk us through what we just witnessed out of Riviera. What a freaking golf tournament. Okay. We went into Sunday Nelly Cordo and Say Young Kim. We're tied for the lead at six under par.
Starting point is 00:03:06 A shot back of them were Jennifer Cupcho and NG Chun, NASA, Hata Oka, Gabby Lopez, Ronning Yin, started the day at four under. Gentlemen, Charlie Hall, blazing start. Eagle the first, nearly made an ace at the sixth hole. She jumped from three under par to start the day all the way up into a tie for first at seven under par. In fact, as the leaders would make the turn, we had Nelly Korda at seven under. We had Say Young Kim at seven under, ahead of them on the golf course.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Injee Chun was at seven under and Charlie Hall at seven under. Some of the key highlights coming down the stretch on the back nine. Inj Chun actually pushed it out to nine under par after birdying the 10th and birdying the 11th. She would be the only woman to touch nine under par. She would eventually give that back. She was scraping it around all day, getting away with it. A tremendous short game.
Starting point is 00:04:06 We'll get into how she dropped back. you had Nelly Corta just smooth sailing along. Okay, kind of missed opportunities, did not birdie 10, did not birdie 11, but just was super solid into the back nine. Say I'm Kim, T.C., real rat tendencies just did not have it today. She was not going away early. Eventually her ball striking let her down. Randy, wouldn't go away late either, as we'll get to.
Starting point is 00:04:35 That's right. We get to a really difficult stretch of the golf course, 12, 13, 14, 15, playing back into a really stiff wind. Charlie Hall three putts, the par 314th to drop out of that tie for first. That would eventually prove costly. Inji Chun, as mentioned earlier, she was, I mean, God, she made some U.S. Open pars out there today. eventually though she would drop a shot let's see I want to make sure I have this correct she would drop shots at 12 and 13 missing the green failing to get up and down there that would take her from that nine under number down to seven under we had gabby lopez surging into a tie for the lead at one point on the back nine she birdied 10 12 13 she made a hell of a par on 15 but then her undoing was a three putt bogey on the par 316th.
Starting point is 00:05:36 She failed to birdie the 17th, but she made a hell of a birdie. Unbelievable. To post at 7 under. Third 30 to day on 18. Absolutely had to have it. Yeah, absolutely had to have it. She was leaving the flag in on those puts and the flag is
Starting point is 00:05:52 whipping. I know. I don't get it. It's giving me the heby-jeebies. Charlie Hall was leaving the flag in. Like I said, she made that bogey at 14. She came back, birdied 17 to get to 7 under and then made a clutch up and down on 18 to post at 7 under. So you have Charlie in the house, you have Gabby in the house.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Inji Chun needed to par 18 to post 7 under, ends up missing the green short theme of the day for her, could not get that up and down. So actually makes bogey posts at 6 under par. And so Nelly Corda is out there, all right? And she's just plugging along, playing proper golf. I mentioned she kind of missed birdie opportunities on 1011. but make solid pars on 12, 13, 14, 15, 16. I thought she had made her birdie putt a really nice effort there,
Starting point is 00:06:42 but was not to be. So she comes to 17 at 7 under par. It's a par 5. Good birdie opportunity. Laces a drive. Misses kind of her first, I would say a little bit of a miss hit. Ends up short left of the green 17,
Starting point is 00:06:58 is able to chip up to nine feet. And this is the tester, right? You've got to make these putts if you want to be. a U.S. Open champion. She hits that put right in the center of the heart to get to eight under par. So she goes to 18, needing a par. That putt right into the center of the cup. That was the impressive putt.
Starting point is 00:07:17 She goes to 18, laces her drive, hits the fairway. It's a, it's a just safe iron onto the green from 35 feet. Good first put up to two feet, 10 inches. And then, boys, what did we, like, what was that? She makes the par putt. Of course, I'm not going to bury the lead. But off the face, it looked like she had missed this putt left. Solly Tron, I was flabbergasted this putt went in.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Time stood still. I feel like I flashed like eight different storylines in my head of like, okay, well, all right, they're going to play the 10th hole. Now they're going to play the 18th. You could have a Roy bounce back. I had fully committed to that put missing by the time it fell in. I didn't think it was going to hit the hole when it came off the face. and it's such a weird
Starting point is 00:08:03 like we're waiting for this culminating moment like I feel like she's playing the most important two whole stretch of her of her life right there. I mean winning this championship at least one time is going to be the most important thing I think she ever does in her career and we'll get to that and she hit the put on
Starting point is 00:08:19 17 hit the shots, did she did what was required. There's about eight different spots in the course of the round where it could have got away from her and she just kept hitting the good chips, kept making those four, five, six footers. looked like she took a little extra time on that one. And how could you not?
Starting point is 00:08:34 And how could you not be the most nervous over put you've ever been? And she yanked it a little bit. It looked like it was moving left as well. If you remember, I couldn't help but think of this. Our friend Max Homa missed a three foot one inch put to win the Genesis on the 18th green. He would eventually go win that in a playoff. But I was thinking about that as I looked up the distance of that put. But I still did not imagine she would miss it just with how good she'd
Starting point is 00:09:00 on all of those putts all week. And man, it fell in and we are living in a completely different reality. Lipped in. We got to play this. You said it, Randy, it reminded you of your infamous putt that you hit at Tim Aquana back in like 2019, I think it was. This was for a lot of money. I'm going to play this here back in the day, but you had about a two-foot birdie put
Starting point is 00:09:22 for a lot of the money that fell in the absolute backside of the hole that never felt like it deserved to go in and that's exactly what happened there and man i'm relieved i'm sure she's incredibly relieved but we had our our moment our golf tournament that we've kind of been waiting for and been saying is going to happen uh for for nellie and for riviera and for this championship that continues to be on the rise man that was a captivating uh evening watching some golf randy what was i mean you were in our slack you said like the the like going down the alternate timeline of that pot not going in And then like, Sally, what was the, the, the, the playoff would have been 10 officially? I think they said it was 10 and 18.
Starting point is 00:10:09 I thought Mike won, um, said that when he was in the, in the booth. But it's a, it's a two whole playoff now at the U.S. opens. It hasn't happened since they switched to it. Yeah. Um, but it is a two whole aggregate playoff. And that would have been a really fun one on 1018. But Randy, like that, that timeline is dark, I think. Oh, it's bleak, T.C.
Starting point is 00:10:28 If she misses that putt and then does not get it done in a playoff, like that's career defining maybe right maybe but it went in and that's the beauty of it she found the middle of the bottom of the cup and nellie corda is the united states women's open champion sallie you said it this is the marquee win of her career she may have others in the future but to date of her 19 career l pGA wins of her four majors this this is the most impressive, the golf course, the way she did it, I thought really starting Friday morning, it just was what we want and what we expect from Nellie Corta, immense talent, and just I'm buzzing. I think this is such a great result and it was such a great tournament.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I would argue it was the marquee women's major of the last, at least the last decade. I mean, from start to finish. I think this and the buzz. Yeah. Yeah. Lydia at St. Andrews and this. Like this is, we need,
Starting point is 00:11:37 we need the stars to play their best in the, in the best events on the best venues. And she rose to the challenge. And I thought the putt on 17 was, that was one of the most clutch moments I've seen in years. Red it perfect, poured in the center. And before she hits that,
Starting point is 00:11:56 it's like, man, how many of these can you make? Like, how many? And it's getting into that nervy time. You know, it was not a good approach shot. It was a kind of pretty iffy chip. And that put was not easy. Again, having bones out there just to point out all kinds of great stuff of the putts moving left to right,
Starting point is 00:12:10 but the wind is offsetting it a little bit. As soon as she hit the put, it looked like it was low a little bit, but the wind just held it right there and it went right in the center. And, man, it just, I'm willing to say this now. Like, I think this is, this is, like from this point forward, we can just definitively say Nellie Corder reached her full potential. Like this is like the, we are there. If she never wins another major,
Starting point is 00:12:35 we will be disappointed from here right now, but we cannot call her career disappointment. It is, she's obviously like the most talented player and this should absolutely not be the end. But this is, if you win four major championships, you win three of them, three different majors now to this point.
Starting point is 00:12:53 You've now won all of the state side, the U.S. majors on the women's side. like this is the realization of your potential. This is you your career has turned out as good or better that anyone could have realistically hoped. Going forward, now we just are now we're working on legend status. Like this is a different category. I don't think she's going to get to 11. Neil,
Starting point is 00:13:13 but Neil's looking more and more pressure. He was more confident than ever. I know. But now, you know, then you get the awkward conversation of what is the career grand slam on the women's side. I think the next lofty goal is to, win all five of them. And it's, it's, I, I think she can do it. I think the open, the women's open is probably the biggest challenge for her. I see no reason why she couldn't win at Evian, but, uh, I don't
Starting point is 00:13:39 know. I shouldn't do this on tonight. Like tonight should just be about celebrating the fact that she won this championship, one that had previously, like put her in a blender. I remember watching her at Lancaster and being like, oh, I don't know if you are ever going to win one of these. And then to be finished second last year and now win this one, uh, we've just entered a completely different territory and I could not be more thrilled for her who seems to be an incredible representation of a professional golfer, a women's professional golfer, an example of what young girls should strive to be. And like, frankly, the American star that the women's side very, very badly needs. And it would be very bleak for American women's golf if Nellie Korda was not doing what
Starting point is 00:14:19 she's doing. I agree with all that, Tally. The one line you had about this cements, her career, you know, I think back to when we were really starting this full time. And Nellie Cordo was the kid sister of Jess, who everyone talked about, had a ton of game and a ton of competitiveness. And we were so excited to see what these ensuing years would give us. And the realization, I, you know, I think it's easy to just breeze past. There are so many people that don't realize that potential, right? That don't fully maximize a career like that. And so just a tip of a cap to her.
Starting point is 00:15:04 We've seen her game develop and progress. And it's just, I think it needs to be said that that's very impressive. And I don't want that to get lost. I have some things. I can just read some, you know, some historical kind of context into this win if you will allow me here speaking of the hall of fame i think we flashed a comment up there this brings nellie's hall of fame total to 25 points 27 points gets her induction so uh each lpj win is worth one point majors are worth two points uh player of the year and the the var trophy for
Starting point is 00:15:48 low scoring average are both worth a point there there's no doubt in my mind nellie's going into the Hall of Fame this year, which at 27 years of age, as we speak, is very impressive. Randy, that's like 49 in LPGA years. Yeah, I know. She becomes the first four-time major champion on the LPGA tour in the 2020s. So I think she has firmly grabbed hold of, you know, the player of this decade, the player of her generation, if you will. it's weird because like Lydia Cohen and Nellie are like the same age
Starting point is 00:16:24 but I kind of think of them as a little bit different timelines just because Lydia burst onto the scene at such a young age. She becomes the first player to win the first two majors of a season since NB Park in 2013. So I think that's noteworthy. The first American to do that since 1986, Pat Bradley. And then this is the one that really gets me. She becomes the youngest American. player to win four major championships since Mickey Wright in 1960. So, Sally, you said it.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Nelly, not only has realized her potential, but she has firmly stepped into this. We're dying for an American superstar in the women's game. It's Nellie Korda. She's here, and this is the season where she's solidifying all that. It's, it's really fun. And it's, man, it's, it's, it's time. I mean, I thought, We'll give them the coverage stuff, and I don't mean to make this a coverage take, but it's the, I guess the excuse or the reasoning a lot of people have made of why they maybe don't pay as much attention to women's golf or struggle to watch it or don't support it is the fact that at least compared to the men's side, there's most definitely a lot more Asian players at the top of the board that are less
Starting point is 00:17:38 relatable to an American audience. That's just the reality of the situation. And we now have a four-time U.S. major winner. Like the major winner of the 2020s is Nellie Korda. She's American. And like, so that excuse is out the window. And this is where I think things flip onto like, it's time the golf channel.
Starting point is 00:17:55 It's time NBC. And we've seen a lot of improvements this year. It's time you get on board with elevating this tour, elevating Nelly, doing everything you possibly can. And taking advantage of this moment, I feel like they've been ill prepared. But the fact they're LPJ tour is under new leadership and is clearly moving in a much better direction,
Starting point is 00:18:13 as felt like this year, like lights are on now. It's go time. It is, you're not going to get a better, tailwind than what you just got primetime nelly win at riviera by one shot and a at a weird highlight to like finish it like that's your tail win like it's it's time to take advantage of it and run and going into a women's pga hazel team that should suit her game as well i was going to say i should let me take back what i said about fulfilling potential she got to go in hazelty she she totally in a row i mean guy can you imagine the fever pitch of you know that and then go into the
Starting point is 00:18:46 Going to the weird, heavy. But, I mean, to your point, I thought NBC was pretty good the last couple days for the most part. I thought the, they had like, yes, you got to jump around from channel to channel and you got to kind of make an effort.
Starting point is 00:19:05 But I thought the production was at least good. I thought they gave him a lot of the toys. I thought they had good, good drone work, good aerial stuff. They leaned on bones heavy. Like bones, you're a broadcaster.
Starting point is 00:19:16 here, man. Take us there. Take us into every shot. Take us into every consideration. That was five thumbs up for me. And I'll just, I mean, I know we've, we've gone on this. And, you know, I don't intend for it to be mean-spirited. Morgan Pressel just isn't it. And she, she has no grasp of the moment, anything interesting or insightful to say. In many cases, she steps all over the moment. And, and just no rapport with Dan. And it's really, really, really tough to watch golf
Starting point is 00:19:48 when you've got that anchor dragging down the entire broadcast. It's a struggle. And it's, it sticks out more, I think, when you, they have such good drone coverage.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Like, I thought the visual elements of how they presented RIV were the best. We've seen a lot more worm cams on puts. Just a lot of, you know, spent,
Starting point is 00:20:07 I thought that, you know, spending good time in, in the situations of each player. Like it didn't feel like you're just watching putts from all over the golf course. It just felt like they stayed with rounds really well and told the story relatively well. But the side from bones, the commentary, yeah, leaves a little bit to be desired in terms of it feeling like a really big moment. But otherwise, man, this is the best coverage we get, though.
Starting point is 00:20:29 This is the one event they take super serious and provide all those elevated tools. And it paid off in a big way. I wish there was going to be more of that. I wish KPMG Women's PGA was done the same way. They don't treat it that way. They make KPMG buy the hours and buy the extra coverage on Peacock and basically fund their operation that week, which is unfortunate. But that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about that needs to change.
Starting point is 00:20:55 It needs to evolve and there needs to be significant investment behind this. And, Sally, I think, like, props to Tommy Roy and the team in the truck, I thought kind of a tall task today. I know great leaderboard, but kind of a jumble leaderboard too. You had a lot of different players right there in the mix. And I thought they did a great job of sticking with nearly everyone that they needed to. I maybe saw a little bit too much Jennifer Cup show in the Rolex marquee pairing. But they did a good job of finally, finally jump and ship from that.
Starting point is 00:21:28 So yeah. And then, yeah, I mean, I felt like every time I looked up, Say Young Kim was just getting, getting up and down, like getting away with murder. She and NG. John, man. God, they, some greasy, greasy play out of them today. Solly, I think the other thing that, that, and maybe this can lead into some other discussion with, with the women's game, I think it's time, we need real foils for Nellie, right? Part of like, what a world.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Yeah, we need somebody to beat Nellie and to stand up to her. Well, no, no, no. You're right. You're right. I don't need people to beat Nellie. but now that we have this undisputed best in the game is starting to clear major championships at a pretty good clip,
Starting point is 00:22:19 I want to see who is rising to challenge her the biggest weeks. Some disappointments this week, quite honestly, Gino. Afterthought. But you see Charlie Hall once again rise up the board on the weekend in a big tournament, comes up just short again.
Starting point is 00:22:37 her fifth major runner-up, her second runner-up at a U.S. Women's Open. She has two at the AIG British Open. That's what I'm curious about. Ronning in, disappointing Sunday for her, she's somebody that, you know, I feel like could offer a bit of an ongoing rivalry. But I guess that's what I'm most curious is the response now we see from the rest of these women. Who wants to come chase Nelly? Who's going to play their best golf the biggest weeks to try to match her? I thought that was just absolute nails from Charlie Hull today.
Starting point is 00:23:14 I mean, and she's finished, yeah, I mean, the whole weekend. Was it 65, 67? She's finished T12, T12. She withdrew from the, from Evian last year, T2 and the women's British T10 T2. Like she's raised her game. She's leveled it up. Just got to get it across the line now. Kind of like my guy, Tommy.
Starting point is 00:23:36 She throws it in gas and then throws it in reverse. It's usually got to the top of the leaderboard. I thought Charlie, I thought Charlie's round was good. Usually she has one, maybe two things where it's just like, you can't do that. And if I nitpick, it's the miss putt on 14. She missed like a four and a half footer, I want to say, on the par three to make bogey there.
Starting point is 00:24:02 But other than that, yeah, she played really well today. worth i mean worth pointing this out as well i called this a a b game performance from nelly like i was not her best golf i mean i think it was maybe that's why i'm ryan rsillo even more impressed with her walking away of like she just did the she's the best ball striker in the world by far if there's something that she's been critiqued for it's her putting uh and you know at times i have walked away from tournaments not just thinking that she's not the most skilled around the greens doesn't have the widest array of shots and it's just not like what her strength is. She gained seven shots on the field with chipping and putting this week. And it felt that way.
Starting point is 00:24:46 You know, there was a lot of iron shots. I was looking for a lot more out of her. It all adds up to she was 19th and strokes gained approach. It was not like she was a bad iron player. That's why it was a B game because of the irons. Exactly. Left herself in some spots that were just, you know, not great. And it just, the fact she only made one bogey today was incredible and really didn't have to work that hard on the greens today to do that it just she was fourth around the greens today and that it felt that way what hole was that 15 where she came up miles short you know missed her marked by 24 yards or something not 15 whatever that was uh on the back now maybe that was 13 and I'm like okay this is where it starts
Starting point is 00:25:24 to slip away and no she just answered the bell every single freaking time yeah 13 she had 173 in and came up short and missed the green but chipped it up to two feet and it was no problem um her yeah her chipping was exquisite. I mean, probably her best attribute. I think, Sally, what I think is interesting, what I think is so exciting about this win at a place like Riviera is we know she's the best ball striker in terms of her swing looks fabulous, you know, like take a picture of her swing, teach that to everybody. But I think the question has always been the artistry, right, seeing the shots, playing the proper shots. And that's what really impressed me Friday through Sunday is she it was just it was legitimate from from start to
Starting point is 00:26:16 finish over these last 54 holes like she didn't get away with hardly anything she was in the proper places she was by and large playing the proper shots and I like that's what we want to see right and that's what a test like Riviera demands it's not just trackman golf It's not, hey, you got to hit this ball exactly 165 yards, fly it, land it. There's a lot of different ways to go about it. And I'm, yeah, I'm buzzing. This is so good for the women's game. This is so good.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Super quick. 15 Miss Greens on the weekend for Nellie. How many of those things she got up and down? Like 12? Yeah, at least. 14. 14 and 15. Jesus. So the only one she didn't get up and down was, what, 14 today?
Starting point is 00:27:02 No, she seven today. Or seven. Which speaks to her short putting too. You know, her putter was. And that's not counting, that's not counting par fives where she was getting up and down. She played the, there's 12 par fives over four rounds at Riviera. She played them at eight under par. I would have to imagine that's best in the, in the field.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Like her eight shots she gained on par were all on the par fives this week. So, yeah. I think the, uh, Randy, just a. To piggyback on your note about hitting the right shots, I think it's so refreshing at Riviera where there is a right shot. There's a right shot and a wrong shot. And it's very, it's very refreshing as a viewer to watch that and see it that delineated.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Whereas I think, you know, there's just not a lot of consequences on some of these other courses, both men's and women's that we watch some of these majors on. It's one of our criticisms of a Valhalla or a Quail Hollow or, you know, Hazel Team next go around for the way. women, right? There's just not as much, uh, downside risk or like it, it's just such a good cadence down the stretch at, at RIV as well. Like with 14 and 16, the two par threes, like kind of, I think that's, back to your point about Charlie, Randy, that's the one that really frustrated me the most,
Starting point is 00:28:21 her dumping it in that front bunker on 14. Um, and then, like, I thought the, the whole location on 16 today was a really interesting one. I really enjoyed that of, hey, it's, it's, it's 130, you know, 132, 135 yards, front of the green. And you have to hit a proper distance controlled wedge in there. Or lag put your face off to get it back at that whole location. And then, you know, 17, full send, but you still got to earn the birdie there. And, you know, 18, two good shots. And then it's still not dead if it's inside two and a half feet.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Now we hit a great put on 16, too. You know, that put goes far right to left. early and then comes back left to right and with a smid less pace it might have might have fallen in but yeah gosh we could we could relive that uh relive a lot of this all night uh guys this is not news to you guys i don't have to tell you this but the new high noon transfusion certified hit that is right they've finally brought the number one golf drink into their vodka seltzer lineup that's the transfusion you can get it now but not for a long time they just dropped a limited amount the irresistible grape taste crafted with real vodka
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Starting point is 00:29:52 Also want to give a massive shout out. Our coverage this week at the U.S. Women's Open has been brought to you by Ally Bank. And as this championship wraps up, we want to thank Ally once again for supporting this event. supporting our coverage throughout the week. They've been a tremendous partner for us this week. We are proud to have worked alongside them. Beyond sports, Allies also focused on helping people feel more confident and in control of their financial lives. Allies, a digital bank built on the idea that banking should be simpler, more accessible, and easier to navigate day-to-day, whether you're saving for a trip, planning for home purchase, managing everyday spending,
Starting point is 00:30:22 or just trying to organize your finances a little more effectively. Ally has built tools designed around the way people actually live. You can go to allied.com and check out their banking tools and solutions to find out find the ones that match your everyday needs again huge thanks to ally for supporting the u.s women's open and supporting our coverage throughout the week ally bank member fdic they were fantastic they are putting their money where their mouth is on supporting women's sports and it was a massive massive investment and massive support they've thrown behind this championship so again thank you to them Amen. Sully, making light of the house guests. Shout out to my guy, Cato. Thank you. Thank you, T.C. Real quick, I think Charlie made the most birdies this week, 16 birdies. She made 12 of those 16 on the weekend. That was tied for the most with Aphrodite Deng and then Say Young Kim and a host of others were at 15.
Starting point is 00:31:17 But Charlie's got to get one of these at some point. This was the perfect way for her. It just feels like if she's ever going to get one, it's going to be chasing, right? It's going to be ears pinned back, trying to make birdies. God, I thought today might be good enough for a playoff and just disappointed for her because these big events bring out the best in her. And I have a lot of respect for that.
Starting point is 00:31:47 As mentioned, Gabby Lopez finished a tie for second as well. NG Chun finished fourth. young Kim, the rat tendencies. What was going on on 18? I mean, that was outrageous. She's over in the right rough, trying to, she couldn't find the pin. She couldn't see the flag. There was, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:04 her catty's trying to line it up with somebody with a red shirt, said there's too many red shirts. Meanwhile, Nellie's just waiting in the fair way to hit the most, you know, important shot of her life, trying to win the U.S. Women's Open. I know she's got a lot to play for as well. She could have birdied it and got to minus seven, which would have been good enough
Starting point is 00:32:20 for a playoff if Nellie faltered. and had a ton to play for there. But that was a tough, tough way to finish for somebody that battled really hard. Had so many bad shots or club, you know, hand off the club shots this week that ended up in very okay spots.
Starting point is 00:32:36 You know, and she's a past major champion as well. Hasn't been necessarily in the best of form. So kind of a surprising result for her. But that was a tough scene there on 18. It was. Yeah. She was just running out the clock.
Starting point is 00:32:46 She took off those outrageous glasses at one point. It's like your catty needed to put her on his shoulder. you know to see the flag between clubs granted yeah like that was a hundred thousand dollar bogey right there um she made but yeah got a got a hit a better one after after taking that long too yeah that's the other thing about Nellie aspirational pace of play yeah yeah respect the hell out of it and then it like because that's not the case out there on the LPGA tour there's some habitual line stepers you have to do that always like on the back of the pack playing on Sundays as
Starting point is 00:33:22 well where you're just doing nothing but waiting all day long. Although pace was pretty good, I think, on this Sunday, at least it was. But yeah, and it wasn't that bad in the early part of the week either. That's credit to being a well-designed golf course, I think, and proper spacing of the holes. Like, you know, the whole principle behind the first two holes being long holes is a pace of play thing. You're better off shooting guys out, men and women out farther, you know, with longer
Starting point is 00:33:49 holes early. And that helps out with spacing and things. There's so many just little positive things about this championship, I know, from being on site, both in just how it was organized, how easy it was to bop between holes and see a lot of great golf. Incredible. Again, we say this every time. And the opportunity you get to go to an LPGA event that's in your area, like you're going to see exactly what you want to see. And you're not going to have dipshits yelling, yelling shit like you heard at the memorial on TV and fighting for spots and dealing with drunk people.
Starting point is 00:34:20 It's just a super easy, approachable way to take in a golf tournament and a really special golf course. So venues matter. Keep doing this. And look, I know U.S. Women's Opens are scheduled out and they're going to incredible places. They're doing it. They are doing it. And L.A. crowd was, I'd have to say, relatively weak overall in terms of creating an atmosphere and, you know, kind of at least the early part of the week. They are who we thought they were. They are.
Starting point is 00:34:48 They are. And better today is a great picture up from Bethann Nichols here on the screen of the atmosphere around 18 was really good today. And I felt like the cheers were the most we'd heard. But it was a little, not just the crowd numbers, but just like not recognizing good shots. I got Jeff Shackford all worked up about that one. That was really fun walking with him. He's just basically yelling at the crowd about not cheering properly for shots. but you look we're going to go to la we're going to get l iCC here in a few years as well
Starting point is 00:35:22 we just can't that's not going to sneak up us on us again the la fans are letting letting us down on tv can we i i a few things i would love to get your thoughts on with rive and and the tournament if we have a few minutes here um first of all tc first time there in person on site i mean i know i know it well i think it lived up to expectations but any any favorite holes favorite features what what stood out having now seen it with your own eyes it oh i loved it uh it was i had a high expectations and it exceeded them i thought um a that hill's really big um you know may a culpa to let lonto griffin you know at all for his complaints about having to walk up and down the hill there no i think the a lot more movement
Starting point is 00:36:14 in the fairways than i was expecting like i expected the the you know know, like, I don't know, I was expecting to be a little bit more of a, of an aerial game. And I think that there was a lot more runout and like that, that big movement in the fairway on, uh, on two there or, you know, down the hill on, was that on five? Like there's just, you really got to hold fairways and kind of hold it up against the slope. Um, like Sally said, great, great course to spectate. You can bounce between front nine and back nine. It's just an artful routing up and down that canyon there.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Yeah, overall, I just, I don't know, I thought the setup was good from the USGA as well. I know you were, you were livid at the funnel pin on six today, Randy. I thought six was a bit gimmicky, both, it was a little funnily yesterday, way funnily today. I thought that was beneath the USGA, but for a Sunday funnel pin like that, I did. Yeah, get out of here with that. It made for some excitement. You got to execute still. you got to hit it up this like it seems like everybody was getting the
Starting point is 00:37:19 everybody was getting a 10-foot birdie but at least the best players were we had we had 16 players under par is that acceptable to you i so i thought this was a fabulous golf tournament full stop uh i do think it was a little the weekend was a bit easier than i expected friday night you know i remember la lc said she she she would have taken 36 parts sitting at 2 under. I thought they were going to turn it up a little bit more. And I think instead they made some pins accessible. There were certainly very difficult stretches of the golf course, the back nine particularly. So it wasn't what I was thinking it would be. It was still fabulous. And that's a credit honestly to Riviera. It really cements itself as one
Starting point is 00:38:10 of my favorite places to watch golf. I was going to ask you guys about. the 10th hole. I feel like the 10th hole, when we were younger, had this mystique best short four maybe in the world. And then it lost a lot of luster. I think as the men's game just got longer and there was a real uniform way to play it. What did you think watching the women play it over four days? I was pretty underwhelmed on Thursday, Friday of just, I don't know, it just felt a little like it wasn't a short four it was a mid-length four or like it just didn't didn't make as much sense then i thought it was interesting this weekend um sallie i know you have very specific thoughts as it relates to 10 in general and more on the men's side but you know like like how how baked out and
Starting point is 00:39:00 severe that green gets i think is is maybe worth another look yeah um i get why they played 10 the way they did the first two days. You know, I, one of the things I love about the open championship is everybody starts off the first hole. I hate two T starts. I think golf courses are meant to be played from the first hole through the 18th hole all four days.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Great take. I want to co-sign that take with you, Stolling. And we're in June, and like it comes down to TV window, like the days are long. I don't want to say to limit the field. So you do that, that would be better.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Like I just think that would be better and would give you more options to mess with set up things on Thursday, Friday, as it stands now, the setups are relatively blandish, vanilla-ish between the Thursday and Friday. There'll be some teas that are up and back and pins that move, but you wouldn't, basically, how they would do that is you wouldn't want to start someone, you know, make 10 drivable on Friday, but not Thursday. And somebody starts that, you know, in the whatever, maybe starts there in the morning and it gets a different kind of advantage or whatnot. So that's, that's why it's that way. I agree. it was much more interesting come Saturday Sunday.
Starting point is 00:40:11 A Friday pin was awesome, though, on 10. I left very upset about the 10th hole, though, of the distance on the men's side of like that. The scale fit that hole so much better. It was way, like that left bunker came into play so well today of the trajectory that a lot of the women hit it at. That was a factor. LC talked about that on the show on Friday about like,
Starting point is 00:40:35 I'm not sure I would send it because I don't know if I'm covering that bunker. and if you cover that bunker and you scream it too far, then you're in a tough spot on the left. Like it just, the shot Nelly hit on 10 today was awesome. They touched on it briefly, but like she backspun it going down the hill, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:51 flopping it over that bunker. That could have gotten away from it really quickly. I thought it was a really fun hole to watch this weekend. And it was just fun to watch this golf course where the scale fits so well in terms of like when you missed fairways out there, I don't know what the rough missed, you know, missed fairway actual penalty ended up.
Starting point is 00:41:08 being but it felt like you you're not when you're not flipping wedges into these greens from the rough you just are unlocking a much more interesting style of golf as soon as you miss it makes your t shots more important it just there was no overpowering done at any point by anybody and it's that's a really fun and engaging watch for four days um and that's yeah i know you asked about 10 but like that's just like watching the scale i think it's the thing we were most excited about was like to watch the scale, you know, fit into these green sides, these whole locations, this firmness, and watching them overcoming who can last 72 holes. That played out as good as we could have possibly hoped. So I was expecting to be more offended by four just on what I've seen on the
Starting point is 00:41:53 men's side of, you know, how far back they pushed that. It played way better for them. Played so much better for the ladies. I thought, I'm a little bit curious as to what, like, what the ladies would have done if they hadn't had widened that, that, that, that, that alternate like that right fairway on on eight because I mean virtually the entire field regardless of where the pin was went went up the right fairway and I don't think I've ever seen what the men come up the right fairway there but I'm curious to see if they keep that width going for the Genesis next year for the Olympics thereafter that's the great thing too we like we've got a lot of Riviera in our future for the next four years or so well and we haven't seen
Starting point is 00:42:37 good Riviera since 24. I mean, we didn't see it last year because of the fires and we saw us rain soaked one this year. DJ worst take of all time, tried to like try to get us to say that RIV was potentially overrated after watching it be a little bit soaked. Like there's
Starting point is 00:42:53 no part, like I'm willing to triple down and this is like one of the greatest golf courses in the world. And definitely like the greatest golf course that we see annually on the professional game. Like I don't think there's even a close call on that. Amen to that. Yeah. We've only seen Craig Ranch once after the redo,
Starting point is 00:43:11 and it was kind of rain soaked. We've got to give that a little bit. We've got to let it grow in another year. More of a chance, but. Yeah. Any other rib thoughts? Should we can shout out some down the leaderboard. We can keep this train moving if you'd like.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Yeah, I was going to say down the leaderboard wise, just looking at the really pleased with how the amateurs played this week. Hira Romero, T6, final round. Quick question. Is this a reflection of how good the amateurs are or do we need to maybe think about collecting some cards out here on tour? I think it's a combo of both. I think there's some, you know, there's some, I think it's more a reflection of how good the amateurs are. I think there's a really strong wave coming between Jose Marine and then you've got Aphrodite Deng was super impressive, just look totally unfazed.
Starting point is 00:44:07 this week. Astros tally, not a great Sunday, but Saturday 66. Yeah, so just, you know, there was, I think, what, four or five amateurs in the top, top 22. Farrow O'Keefe finished T-34. I mean, that's, that's what, that's five amateurs making the cut. You know, there's, there's been a few men's majors of late that zero eminors have made the cut. So it is a tighter blend between the amateur and the pro side on, on the women's side, just with age curves and performance curves and things like that. But that's not, you know, just comparing that to the men, but for the women's game specifically,
Starting point is 00:44:43 this was an especially good showing for these amateurs. And we didn't see a lot of Romero on TV. I didn't get a chance to watch her in person, but gosh, 73, 70, 70, 68 is just an extremely, like extremely steady, steady week tied with, or beat running in, and we saw a lot of running in. I mean, that's just, that's, you know, kind of snuck up on us there a little bit. But, yeah, two amateurs in the top 10.
Starting point is 00:45:09 It was, that was a definite birdie for the week was the amateur play. I think Ronnie's my big, big disappointment from today. I thought she was going to stick her nose in there. I know. She was four over on 14, 15, and 16 today, which sucked. She finished T8 in the big packet at T8 there with Cupcho and, and Marie. Ria Jose Marin, Maya Stark, Alison Corpus, Pajari, you got this one, Rainey, you know this.
Starting point is 00:45:41 And in the Rukarn. There it is, there it is. Yeah. Oh, just real quick on Inj Chun, you know, I think she has one of the, almost like a Brooks, you know, for me in comparison, almost like a Kepka-like career now on the LPGA tour where she's not a prolific winner by any means, but she's won three majors. I had kind of memory hold that she was who Ash Buhai beat at Muirfield to win the AIG in 2022.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Like that was a tournament. Inji Chun, I won't say like should have won, but very well could have won. Definitely had a look today. You know, at one point had a two-shot lead when she was nine under par. Just a, I mean, talk about like bringing your, summoning your best when the biggest weeks roll along. very impressed with her. I know she's kind of battled injury and they were talking about some mental health stuff. It just, she seems like, and her close ties to Lancaster when she won the U.S. Women's Open there back in 2015, she just seems like a really good person. And so I found
Starting point is 00:46:48 myself just being happy for NG today as well. If we got to see more of her, that would be a good thing. Randy, tremendous drip from her too. Like nothing over the top. Like a quiet style. Yeah, like really graceful. Yeah. Well tailored stuff. Great, great swing. I think she just parries herself that way. She's got to get.
Starting point is 00:47:10 This is a super weird day. But just every time she gets the ball out of the hole, she has like a certain strut she does in the exact same wave to the crowd every time. And she looks very cool doing it. Yeah. She is a, she is doing it in style. I'm an NG. I remember that, Randy.
Starting point is 00:47:24 When she won the KPMG Women's PGA, you bring it up that everything she did for like from a charitable aspect of, aspect for Lancaster after she won there in 2015 and it's just like all right well it's a pretty easy person to root for anytime we see her on the leaderboard but we don't we don't think about her talk about her much but yeah that would have been four majors for her if she'd close that out holy shit um you know not good on the pace of play but tip of the cap to gabby lopez i i thought she had a hell of a week uh she's playing really good golf this year the broadcast made a big deal i think she's really, really once a major championship and has tailored her schedule and her prep and everything to try to get one. This was her best look so far, but somebody that I would not be
Starting point is 00:48:14 surprised to see involved at the KPMG and the majors throughout this year. I was really impressed with her ability to both, you know, she made some scrappy pars. I thought she putted well when I was, I followed her for nearly the whole round Friday. She was playing with Ronnie Yin. Good golf. We just need to speed it up. It can be tough at times. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:37 She's so intense. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. I mean, great week. She was, what, she was first, she was in second place after the first round and carried it through, right? 68, 71, 70, 68. I always have respect for people that, you know, have to do the media and do, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:56 kind of carry the torch the entire week, right? And she did that. Yeah. I was going to shout out to a couple of recent U.S. Women's Open champions tied for eighth. Allison Corpus and Maya Stark. People that we, you know, Maya just won last year. I think this is a very respectable title defense for her. And then Allison Corpuz, we haven't heard much, honestly, since she won in 2023.
Starting point is 00:49:22 But a nice week for her would love if this is kind of a sign of her game. coming back on an upswing. Can I hit you have a couple more Nelly things? Or do any farther down the board? I just wanted to say, I mean, her post around interview on the 18th Green was awesome. Got super emotional just like referring to all the people that were rooting her on and talking about her team and everything there. That was, I don't know, that was, I felt like an opened up Nelly,
Starting point is 00:49:52 not reserved Nelly that we've seen. Also, I'm reading this from Will Haskett on the Everything app. Nellie's record this year against every golfer. Okay, like her head-to-head record against every golfer she's played. 870 and 10 with three ties. Basically, when she's teed up, she's beaten players 870 times. 10 players have beaten her total.
Starting point is 00:50:19 And she's had three ties for a 98.7 head-to-head win percentage. So if you've teed it up against Nellie in a tournament this year, it is a 98.7% chance that she has beaten you. The players that have beaten her are Joju Kim twice. Lauren Cogland, Lottie Wode, Haydan Yu, Miyu Yamashida,
Starting point is 00:50:41 Ronnie Yin, Amanda Dherty, Jin Yonko and Gino Titakun. They should make the CME tour championship this year. If you beat or tied Nelly, you get in. That's the only way you get in. Yeah. We might have a small deal.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Yeah. I mean, you're right. We didn't even really talk about the 2026 season she's putting together. Obviously, the two majors, but this is her fourth win in eight starts. And she has three runner-ups and her worst week is a tie for eight as those stats bear out. It's incredible. You know what, Randy? I look back at 2013, I believe it was.
Starting point is 00:51:22 NB Park, I think, won the first three majors of the year. and we weren't covering golf yet at that time. And I was, I'm always like, man, that'd be crazy. That had to be so fun to cover and follow. And now I'm like, oh, shit. Like, we might get that. Like, I mean, the first two alone, like, what a storyline we got ahead of Hazeltie. I know we covered that, but it's just, it happens fast.
Starting point is 00:51:43 That's the, that's the fun part of this is it's coming up here in three weeks or, you know, starts in, in two weeks from today here. We had a question in the chat as well. Who wins more major Scotty or Nelly? It's a great question. And I think ties into one of our favorites after a major. You know, we've got to talk about Nellie's career total. I won't be a prism of the moment, but it just seems easier on Nellie's side at the moment.
Starting point is 00:52:15 I mean, well, she's at the height of her powers right now, you know? And she, I mean. The women's game, too, they come quick. The majors do. So if you're playing good golf. Yeah, and they're five. I would say Nellie. And she's a horse for course for one of them at Jeffron.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Yeah. I'll pause at this too. Do you think she wins their career grand slam? Do you think she, I think she bags. The real one or the fake one? I think she grabs the Women's British Open, but I don't know about the Evian.
Starting point is 00:52:42 She's got... I feel better about the Avion than I do, the Women's British. Really? Women's open. Yeah. I mean, um,
Starting point is 00:52:51 elements aren't great for Nellie. It haven't been great for her, I would say. No, but she was kind of barrying that in 2024. she played some good golf and some not great conditions. We got living this year. We got Bill St. George's next year, kind of an aerial course.
Starting point is 00:53:11 And then we've got Sunningdale in 28. Sunningdale old. Oh, God. Her rhythm this year is going to be fascinating, too. Does you get all five? So again, the LPGA career grand slam is you just got to win four of the five, which we do not acknowledge. on this here podcast.
Starting point is 00:53:31 You got to win all five. Especially now the Evian is a real major. I think I'm still taking Scotty here. That's tough, though. Here's where the reality of women's golf comes in, too, is like Nellie's getting married soon. She's engaged. Does she want to start a family?
Starting point is 00:53:52 Those are big factors. I don't know the answer to that, but plays a part. One random moment I meant to mention Friday. Just kind of spoke to Nellie's, you know, easygoing mindset. It seemed like out there this week walking down 15 Fairway. Her sister, Jess, is walking with her son, Nellie's nephew, is in the stroller. And like, Nellie, like, sees him from really far away. And, like, her and her nephew just started, it's like, he's going through a big peace phase.
Starting point is 00:54:22 He just keeps saying peace at everybody. And she's walking down the fairway going, peace. And he says it back. And they kept going back and forth, like five or six times. She's just gritting from ear to ear doing it. I thought that was just a cool little random, random small nugget. It's like DJ's son.
Starting point is 00:54:37 He can't stop saying Jackson Cheerio. So, Solly, I'll put you on the spot. You're taking Scotty. What, like, what are your thoughts for total majors?
Starting point is 00:54:47 Like, where are you thinking it shakes out? Because I forget what we put the over under out after Chevron for Nellie, um, maybe five and a half. And now I'm like pretty confident of over five and a half, which would mean, Scotty would have to get to seven.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Yeah, at least. Yeah, if we, if we, we probably did say five and a half after you got to three. I think I even argued for four and a half. I thought, you know, getting to five would be really good. I still think it would be really good. I think, hmm, this is where it's super easy to get carried away. Throw out 11. Well, you know, like 2025 was kind of like, all right, yeah, you don't do this forever.
Starting point is 00:55:31 and Scotty's year this year has been kind of like, yeah, it doesn't last forever. And Nellie is a, a, like more than four strokes gain player per round, which is Tiger territory. That's above Scotty territory. As much as Scotty is the strokes gain darling, Nellie is the more dominant player
Starting point is 00:55:50 on a round by round basis on her tour. And has more majors, but the longevity makes it really difficult, difficult question. I'd rather focus on what the number is for Nelly now. Do we move that line for five and a half to six and a half now? I don't see why we wouldn't move it. I think it's a more interesting question.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Yeah. I mean, give her another Chevron. Give her, I'd be shocked if not another KPMG. She'll have to win an open. So, you know, that's seven. Shit. I think we're talking seven or eight for Nellie. All right, who wins more Rory or Nelly?
Starting point is 00:56:29 I'll take Nellie there. Ellie. Yeah, I think Nelly. Or is a little older. He's also got six, though, right? He does. Fuck, I thought he had five. You're right? Hand up, I was thinking Roy had five as well.
Starting point is 00:56:43 That makes it more interesting. Yeah. It's kind of an interesting. It is. Conversation between all three of them, you know? Yeah. We might have to, you know, can we post a Twitter, a poll in the comments here? I don't know how to do that.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Cody. No, Neil's more confident than ever on, on the road to 11. He says they're right on track. Neil's thinking he might be more than halfway there by the end of this year. It's a very fun, fun discussion. Anything else from the U.S. Women's Open? I was proud of Lauren today, bounce back from a pretty crappy putting day on Saturday to cash a pretty big check
Starting point is 00:57:25 and get herself back into the top 20. T-14. Disappointed in Hannah Green. She's straight up didn't drive it well. Everything else seemed to be in order. She was kind of a you know, the queen of L.A. and just didn't really
Starting point is 00:57:44 get off the bus on Friday and Saturday specifically. So all in I'm just, yeah, just stoked for hope this momentum can continue both for Nellie and for the ladies game at large. Guys, I
Starting point is 00:57:59 I'm just disappointed in Gino. I'm saying it right now. I am not picking her to win another major until she wins one. I am I am off, Gino. Am I off to, am I no longer the bad guy on this one? I don't think I picked her to win this week,
Starting point is 00:58:17 but just it's just disheartening. She just was never in it. I just, you know, she's young still, all the caveats, but I just, want to see more and until i see more i got to temper my i got to temper myself so no more picking gino i'm just i forgot to look up who we actually picked in our in our preview it looks like i'm searching
Starting point is 00:58:40 i'm searching the transcript right now uh cody picked nelly i think i joined cody god i hope i did i think you did randy um i was i was kind of pissed off at you guys for just picking chalk but it turned up to be the right thing shout out sallie while you're looking for that you know the alison lee story new mom uh and jiu janet lee also very new mom very impressive weeks for them janet lee had an ace today on the soon to be new mom funnel pin six yeah madeline was playing seven months pregnant my my wife uh i was like they need to chill the fuck out they're making the rest of us look bad um and then i had one more oh just about the future venues What, so next year's Inverness and Toledo.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Real quick, Randy. I just found it. You said, I'm going to pick Nelly. No, I'm not going to pick Nellie. Give me Rony in. All right. Not a bad pick. No, not a bad pick.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Randy, for next year, we are not going to have the issue of non-ball-knower spectators. And just, like, I think Toledo is going to show out for that. I remember being there for the Solheim Cup. Great venue. great golf course, great market, that northwest Ohio, southern Michigan. Like, it's kind of saturated with LPGA golf as it is. And they just come out in droves. It's great.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Well, so Inverness, Oakmont, Pinehurst, interlocking up in Minneapolis, Oakland Hills, LACC, Chicago Golf, Marion, are your next, what is that, eight, eight years. I think Shinnecock, I don't know Chicago. Chicago's one of those like, oh, I hear everybody. talk about how good Chicago golf club is. So there's a mystique there. I'm really excited for them to go to Oakmont, I guess, just because it's one of those like proper, proper U.S. Open test. I'm curious what has you most excited.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Is there one of those that's like circle that on the calendar? Shinnock for me. Watching the ladies play Shinnickok, I think is going to be a fascinating. Which I think that's 2036. Yeah, we've got a ways to go for that one. Pinehurst. I mean, we've seen it, but it was awesome in 2014. The fact they were going to do a back-to-back there with the men's in 2029,
Starting point is 01:01:08 that's got me super excited. Okman, I think I'm good on. I mean, it's, you know, just a lot of rough. You know, like, that's the opposite of what I love so much about this week was just, it was a very enjoyable watch Thursday through Sunday. And I find, I find heavy rough to be necessary at times to challenge professional golfers. I just think it makes for a harder. grind of watching Thursday through Sunday.
Starting point is 01:01:32 It may play a little differently, though, because, you know, the women's game is more fair ways. We'll see. I think I'm excited for interlocking. Like, I like, I'm excited for Chicago. I like those, we haven't seen Oakland Hills in a while either. I'm excited to see places that are just somewhat unfamiliar, at least in the last decade or so,
Starting point is 01:01:53 get a little run that aren't, you know, they kind of clear that threshold of, hey, this is a great golf course. And by all accounts, it sounds like the, the restoration renovation work up at interlock and spectacular yeah it's all i got tully hell right this this this was a week you know this is this is what makes being a fan of the women's game like this is this is the best so i'm just on cloud nine so we have so we have u.s open uh in two weeks and then do we have the kpmg women's o women's pga the week after that yeah yeah yeah it's like major zn oh dude
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Starting point is 01:04:19 Women's Open, guys. I was trying to watch both golf tournaments with the sound on at the same time today, just because, you know, I tried to watch it both it. I start tuning the one out that doesn't have the sound on. And it was a very, very exciting tournament. There was a lot of weather that halted. The third round of play, it forced most of the field to have to finish round three on Sunday morning. JT. Poston opened up a four-shot lead by the end of round three. But Sam Burns trimmed it down to just two and just four holes. Tommy Fleetwood surged into the lead at one point with an eagle on the 15th hole. He was eventually joined by four
Starting point is 01:04:56 others. Wyndham Clark birding 16 to get there. J.T. Post and Ryan Gerard and Sam Burns were all tied for the lead at one point. They got to 17, the moment of the day, in all likelihood. Ryan Gerard from 36 feet on the 17th hole.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Absolutely poured one in. If you're watching this here on YouTube, we have the clip right here. Made it from 36 feet right in the middle to take the one shot lead going into 18. At that point... That was great reaction too. That was great. great moment. Hotest player in the world.
Starting point is 01:05:28 JT. Poston drove it in the right rough. Looked like this tournament was getting away from head to play out to 93 yards. He wedged it to 11 feet on 17, but poured that put in, then stepped up, hit it to seven feet on 18 and made the putt to tie Gerard and send it to a playoff. He would win it with a par on the second playoff hole. Gerard three putted bogey after driving it into the rough. JT. Post and gets his fourth career PGA tour win. He was famously going to have to go try to play U.S. Open sectional qualifying tomorrow or on Monday if you're listening to this.
Starting point is 01:06:00 36 holes to try to get in the U.S. Open. No longer has to do that. He is in via OWGR and also gets in to the Open Championship. Great interview afterward. 33 whole day for J.T. to get this massive win for him today. T.C., one of your boys as well. I'm sure you're as stoked as I am for Mr. I am.
Starting point is 01:06:19 JT's one of the good guys out there. Like he's just one of the nicest guys I've met in pro golf. And his whole story, his whole career is, I don't know, it's not a very obvious one. It's just incremental improvement and sticking around and playing. Like he was not in a great place this year as far as his game goes. I think he was in the 120s, 130s in the FedEx Cup heading into this week. And I think the win only got him up to 32nd or so. So, you know, just one of those guys that,
Starting point is 01:06:51 I think is greater than the sum of his parts. He's exceptional putter. But just generally, I don't know, he just plays well at the right times. And I think there's a strong situational kind of awareness there. But yeah, he played, like after that weather delay, he came back out and really played well after that, you know, this morning.
Starting point is 01:07:15 I think there was, he kind of used that to his advantage. And then, you know, it looked like it was slipping away from him today and there's a like he was bogey three bogey nine bogey 12 bogey 13 like he was he was three over on his day uh and then birdies on 14 and 15 and you know right back in it and then birdied 18 to you know get in the playoff and um obviously you know Tommy's going to rue this one or or maybe he's not because he like he's conserving energy pre shenicke pre burkdale all of that uh disappointing bogey on from him. But, you know, I don't, I don't rue it that much because I don't know, I don't think it was
Starting point is 01:08:00 going to matter anyway, right? He was either going to finish tied for third with Wyndham or tied for fourth with Sam Burns. So I think Sam Burns is probably the one that feels a little bit like he should have had this one. I'm sorry, the genius way of you getting from JT into the Tommy take and out of it so we can't ask about it or you will follow up on Tommy that was just that was just sheer brilliant right there thank you uh yeah i think sam burns like he's just his iron play is just not just not there for me in the big moments and somebody said like somebody had
Starting point is 01:08:37 the the the meme about like hey this is sam it was the the the money ball meme where it was like this is sam burns he's the bet like the fatal flower with him is he's the best putter in the world until the big moments when he's not the best putter in the world kind of thing. So I was a little bit worried that Windham was going to be opening up some grape tonight, and I don't mean transfusion. It was, it was, that was a legitimate concern there for a bit, but, you know, kind of just didn't, didn't do it down the stretch. I thought we, I thought we were going to get a meltdown at some point, but he seemed to keep his head a little bit on that front. Who else? Yeah, that's kind of, it's Scottie had a crazy.
Starting point is 01:09:20 easy up and down lot of scotty chatter this week with what you guys make of his his back and forth with ted ted or not even back and forth just just got forth scottie might just be tired man couple of young kids he might just be tired yeah this so a hit in the water on 16 on Thursday he's caught on the mic saying i don't know what to do and ted says something back says i can't hear a word you're saying, dude, I feel like that was a good shot. Now I'm in the water because it came in out of the right, absolutely flushed a seven iron and we get the wind wrong and I'm in the water.
Starting point is 01:09:59 I don't think you understand how frustrating that is. That was a good shot. And the wind is hurting out of the right. They get up to the drop area and he keeps going, saying like there's no way that could have happened if the wind was helping him. He's like, I'm hitting good shots and I'm dropping from hazards because we cannot get the wind right.
Starting point is 01:10:14 And it was, yeah, immediate flashbacks of Pray for Ted Scott. But listening back at it, it is impressive as to how directed this was at the caddy, but without directly blaming the caddy. Everything was weak. We can't get the wind right. But it's clearly like, you got the wind wrong here, Ted. Well, and then the following day, they had, I mean, great back and forth on, what was that on the, part three on 12.
Starting point is 01:10:41 the wind was was was was was in and then it totally shifted and nobody's talking like the producers laid out commentators laid out and uh and scotty you know scotty backs off teddy's teddy throws the wind up in this really specific way like he'll grab a bunch of uh of grass and then he just he'll he'll sprinkle a little bit of it but but it'll make sure his body's blocking enough of the wind and then he was like he was like he was like All right, wind is back. Go now. Hit it now.
Starting point is 01:11:15 When you're ready, hit it now. And then Scotty dumped it in the left bunker. And I was thinking, oh, I hope he jumps all over. And Scottie was like, God, I couldn't commit to it, man. So he took ownership. Go ahead. Yeah. Go ahead, Rennie.
Starting point is 01:11:31 No, I just have to remind myself like, you know, Scotty, we're worried about Scotty. What's wrong with Scottie? I go to his results page on the PGA, who were like the guy, you know, let's just go back. Tide for 12th this week. Third, tied for 14, second, second, second. Like, I'm almost more impressed. And we saw us a little with Nelly last year to draw the comparison again.
Starting point is 01:11:58 It's like the high high, sure, those are great. But like how good are you when you're not at your best? And Scotty remains like pretty damn good. And I guess I just am very impressed by that. A couple other things I'm very impressed. Sorry, Sally, if you got to know. Yeah, I was just going to say, like, the Scotty thing was, I don't know. It was, that was, it's still pretty unbecoming of the number one player in the world.
Starting point is 01:12:24 I think, you know, you've been kind of all over the pouting thing, T.C. And I don't know, I should even say pretty. Like, idiot. Like, you just wouldn't ever see Tiger do that. Like, I get, like, it is frustrating when a caddy potentially gives you the wrong advice. But I don't, it didn't look like that. that shot was that affected by wind to me. And it shouldn't have been.
Starting point is 01:12:45 I mean, the flag wasn't even blowing there. I think it's a little bit misplaced. And that, that kind of, like, behavior gets me more concerned about Scotty's, like, chances at Shinnock than maybe it should. Like, he's just not a settled in-controlled golfer isn't going to behave that way to his caddy. And you don't have to do it publicly.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Like, you don't have to do it for, with all the microphones around and making sure everybody hears it would be i i i i would if i was cadding for for scotty i would want an apology from the privately not publicly i just like a hey dude i was i shouldn't have done that like stuff happens in the heat of the battle but that was just unbecoming of the best player in the world do we think scotty like is scotty more reliant upon teddy than like just about any player on tour with their caddy between the green reading like he seemingly can't read greens and he seemingly can't figure out the wind.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Is Teddy having an off year? Is that what the real problem is? That's a fascinating, you know, strokes gain caddy would be a fascinating metric, TC, if there was a way to figure that out. Yeah. A couple of things I found interesting. JT. Poston won.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Actually, both guys in the playoff today. J.T. Poston. Lost strokes to the field off the T this week. 43rd for the week, which that feels very mere fieldish, right? It's a second shot golf course. And Ryan Gerard lost shots off the T this week as well. Poston gained eight shots in approach play, which is ridiculous. And third in putting.
Starting point is 01:14:32 So he basically gained all of his shots via his irons and via his putting. And then Ryan Gerard, who was one of the worst putters in the world, Unbelievable. Like what? 14 months ago, 16 months ago, was first in putting for the week. He gained 10 and a half shots. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:14:53 He, so again, has he changed anything? What? This is nerd shit, TC, but bear with me. I'm looking, his like 25 round moving average, basically like his trend with putting as of the BMW last year was minus 1.3 per round. Like losing more than a shot per round putting as of last August. So about five a tournament.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Yes, which is like worst on tour. Like worst. If you're losing more than a shot per round, you were the worst putter on tour. He's got it back to zero. Had it above, had it almost a half shot above zero as of like the Masters. He's not putted,
Starting point is 01:15:34 he had a really bad putting round. One really bad putting around to Zurich. Otherwise, like he is like a PJ tour, a good putter. now on the PGA tour, which, yeah, is not going to, is unsurprisingly rewarding him in a lot of ways because he's an excellent ball striker. And his ball strike has gotten even better. And you want to talk about aspirational pace of play? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Like, might be the fastest player on tour. It's crazy. Might be the hottest and the fastest player. Yeah. And he called out that, that dip shit who said, get in the bunker. It's not a bunker dog. I'm a Ryan Gerard fan, man. I'm in.
Starting point is 01:16:11 You were all over that. You were on the team? sure why not yeah I'm wearing my president's cup hat I think we need to get some new blood on the team unfortunately I think windham's probably going to be on the team for you sally I was to say I got I haven't had a chance to do to may a couple of this on the main NOU podcast a couple weeks ago we we we're I I had I thought kegan got named assistant to the rider cup and it was to the president's cup I don't have this fact I thought like McAfee show tweeted out that it was it was writer Cup when they had him on giving the announcement and they may have and deleted it i don't know
Starting point is 01:16:45 but i may a couple on that one that that one's on me and i should i should know better uh but it's also he's probably getting a name assistant on the rider cup and i'll have just been early on that but apologies for messing that up a couple weeks speaking of rider cup Alex fitzpatrick t6 how about that man unbelievable yeah just freaking belongs out there yeah uh christopher rytan no i know i was the guy i'm like ah he shouldn't get a uh pass into these signature events off the Zurich win. What are the guys doing? Like, what is the, the Xanders and the Cantlays and the JTs and the speed?
Starting point is 01:17:19 Like, this dude just was not even on the tour a couple months ago. Wins a team event and is now whooping your guys ass in these signature events. Like, what are we doing, guys? Fat and happy. Yeah, I think they're more worried about their equity than they are their strokes gained. Zander's probably trying to push out an update to his app. Although he's probably using Claude now to... That's true.
Starting point is 01:17:44 To code that for him. Country music sensation Eric Cole just wanted to comment on his aesthetic right now. He's got kind of the mullet thing going on. Looks really like it truly looks like a country music sensation. Alex Noren... And also like a minor league baseball player, which... Yeah. Maybe just because of the MLB logo that he wears as well.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Alex Noren's solo 9th moves up to 43rd, the FedEx Cup. Hopefully that that unlocks late July. early August for him to spend some time on Vizby. Yeah. So, Rory, kind of an interesting week from Rory. Just didn't really have it.
Starting point is 01:18:21 And then a little final round 68 to hoover up a little bit of money and some points there. Yeah, Rory drove it better. 11th and strokes gained off the T. The driver's kind of been a little bit of a question. He was asked about that after the round. We have that clip. Just kind of the details. Of course,
Starting point is 01:18:39 no one's going to go into more detail than Rory. well about something specific here. So I found that this interesting, but here's Rory talking about his driver, what he's dealing with right now. I get a little bit underneath the plane on the way down. And then from there, I try to like drag the handle to match it up. And then I get toe strikes. And then the toe strikes are like so if I'm able to touch left trying to hit a cut and I get a touch underneath it. And then I try to save it by dragging the handle. I hit it off the toe. And then it goes left. But then if I try to hit one with a drawer, pretty neutral, I'll get a little bit, still a little bit underneath it, and then I'll release it, and then it'll
Starting point is 01:19:14 overturn a little bit. So it's like, yeah, but I have to try to get the club back out in front of me. But then when it gets out in front of me, if I do get it there, then it's about having the right release pattern on the way through. You look very confused, Alex. Complicated. Well, for me, I'm limited. I hated hearing all that. I'm like, oh my God. That's a lot of freaking swing. I listen to that. I'm like, why,
Starting point is 01:19:43 what am I doing playing golf? Like, what, I'm, like, what does that mean? I also hear that, and that's the part of pro golf I don't get of like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:19:56 I mean, just kind of seems like, I know it doesn't work this way, but you recognize all of this. It kind of seems like you would and should be able to fix it, right? With the proper amount of time, it just seems like,
Starting point is 01:20:06 you know, you would have this address by now, but maybe, I don't know, Maybe it stems from, who knows. But it's wild to think about all that going on with Rory's swing because when he's driving it great, it looks like the most effortless and thoughtless thing going on the planet.
Starting point is 01:20:21 I mean, if that's what's going on in Rory's head, what the fuck is going on in Speas head? I know. Is he close still? Is he close? I don't think he's close under this week. I'll say this, though. I don't think Rory needs to drive it amazing at Chenecock.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Like, I think there's going to be a lot of holes without, drivers the fairways are going to be wide there i think um i don't think he you know that doesn't concern me necessarily going into into shinak you know that you know i don't think that's that big of a deal for this course in particular i don't think it's like lights out game over rory can't win at shenicock i don't think that's case at all yeah is cam is cam young turning back into a pumpkin yeah the putting's been on a tough little trend um Yeah, really tough putting weekend and around the greens. I feel bad bringing this up with Cody on his on his cruise.
Starting point is 01:21:17 I'm sure he's getting very upset with us as he listens to this. But no, I called him a dude and declared him the second best player in the world. So I'm sweating this one just a little bit, you know, if that was a bit premature. I don't think, I don't think you want like a bad putting week at Memorial before going to the Shinnock greens with the wind that they're going to be dealing with there. and how difficult that's going to be around the greens, but completely different grass type and completely different style of play. So a chance to wipe the slate clean for Schenicock.
Starting point is 01:21:48 But yeah, this is the last chance we're going to get to see, you know, kind of the main favorites play golf ahead of, you know, ahead of Shinnock, aside from just a couple that are playing RBC this coming week, but it's not a strong, strong field at RBC. I think the top, top names, Wyndham Clark, Matt Fitz, Kepka, Moracow, Sam Burns.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Tommy and Hovland are some of those highlights. But that led Ludwig 39th kind of mediocre ball striking week really bad around the greens. You know, which could are we. Are we? Yeah, we are. We're fine. Okay. Speeth missed the cut.
Starting point is 01:22:26 What are we building towards with Ludwig? We need like a, you know, you've given us firm things with Tommy. What are we building towards with Ludwig? I don't know. quite i think we're building towards a major randy that's what we're getting towards i'm wondering which one you got your eye on though i guess still getting comfy with the new potter obviously augusta next next spring i think berkdale should suit him quite well um you know pj friscoe should be a great a great test for him uh i'm a little bit just i just i just pulled up the
Starting point is 01:23:02 the field for next week a little bit worried to see tommy t in it up up in canada um No, I don't think this is a national open. I think it's a, I think it's a, wow. It's a PGA tour event in Canada. It's a good PGA tour event in Canada. I don't think it's a national open though. He's trying to, he needs to still add to that win total. You see, it's at one on the PGA door.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Like, yeah, there's a big one. He won the entire year. He won the entire thing. What a world. Speed is really close, miscut. He looks close. to making the cut though 71 79 on Friday Friday got out of control some super high scores with JT post and shot 65 by the way that's where he won the golf tournament uh was on Friday but oh dude like
Starting point is 01:23:53 I mean Jets like Justin Thomas said it was like one of the best like unfathomable like good good golf round I mean it beat the field average by four right it would be the next best player by four yeah that's incredible I meant to say that off the top like I'm glad JT went on and won the tournament because that round two performance was worthy yeah he's got yeah he's gained over nine shots on the field on friday alone which is absurd he's got four career victories now he's won he's won the windham the john deer the the the shriner's which which no longer exists and now the memorial uh and randy he's a he's a veteran of the trap draw as well that's right episode six. I would encourage people to seek that out. Back when the trap draw was the golf podcast.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Oh, dark times. Yeah. He, he just, I don't know, he's got this uncanny. Like, he's kind of an old school golfer. He's got, it's kind of like long, loopyish swing. Um, but man, I just, I've always enjoyed watching him play golf. I love watching him putt. And like I said earlier, I think his entire career is just, like, it goes back to just taking advantage of, of Monday qualifying. into, you know, a corn ferry tour event and then parlaying that and parlaying that and parlaying that. And he's just, like, he's kind of turned into, I don't know, like a miniature version of Russell Henley a little bit career-wise. Like he's won almost $30 million on tour now. And just without, like, I guess the putter is a loud trait, but without any loud traits from a physical perspective or from a driving distance or, you know, long iron.
Starting point is 01:25:39 perspective he's just like i think the i think the odds are stacked against a guy like this in the modern game yeah and he's managed to carve out of a hell of a career and i just like in and it was the same like it was there was kind of apropos that he he beat ryan gerard today in the playoff like he's he's always had a chip on his shoulder against north carolina because they didn't recruit him at a high school and he went to he went to western carolina the cat amounts so i just i don't i love that plucky underdog that's done done well for himself his caddy Aaron Fleener's a great dude as well just always a delightful they've been together for a long long time just always a delightful delightful duo to run into at tour events and whatnot so hopefully hopefully they're opening
Starting point is 01:26:24 some grape tonight sorry I would certainly expect so um anything else from memorial uh that CBS had a really nice tribute to yeah the one of their production associates passed away in a car accident pretty, pretty tragically this, this weekend. And, you know, Nance started or kind of got into that, kind of unexpectedly, but it was a really nice tribute, Bryce Adair, I think from Augusta, Georgia originally. And yeah, I don't know, it was, it was like, I just saw a lot of things, like, man, that was really well handled and, and just what a sad story. So, yeah. Yeah, Jim was, yeah, you could hear the emotion. in his voice and I can't imagine like what it's like to continue working and go back to work the week as that happens.
Starting point is 01:27:14 A member of your team passing away tragically. It's yeah, sending along our best to Bryce's family, the CBS family as well for obviously a very, very, very difficult situation. But as you said, they handled it extremely well and honored Bryce really well with the segment they ran on Saturday. It kind of stopped me in my tracks actually a little bit. It was well done. on a very, very, very different note than that. Over on the DP World Tour, the KLM Open, Ae-Hakara or Eugenio-Chiccarra.
Starting point is 01:27:45 I get tongue-tight on this one, Randy, because Suarez is A. E.U. Hainio. Of course. On our Reds, but I don't think it's Eugenio-Chiccarra. Wins by one, made a birdie on the last. T.C. hit a six iron over the water in the wind to a left pin, also over protesters that had made their way into the pond
Starting point is 01:28:07 and were setting off pyrotechnics. It was sick. I don't even know what they were protesting. I don't know either. The broadcast refused to broadcast the message that they were sending out in the protest. But it was incredible. The staff of the tournament is standing like on the green, you know, surround, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:33 between the protesters and the players that were trying to finish up. I don't know why they were all watching the golf instead of watching the protesters. As you see this image right here, but it was an electric, electric finish. Very windy final round. And he needed to birdie the last, a par five finisher on the last. He had a really, really, really good shot. Six iron in the wind into 18 with, you know, a ton of wrist to the left. And Chikara gets his win, climbs up to fourth, sixth in the race to Dubai,
Starting point is 01:29:04 but he's essentially fourth in the standings in the race to a PGA tour card just behind Patrick Reed, Jaden Schaper and Casey Jarvis. Listen, I think he might be like an unhinged like just hot head lunatic
Starting point is 01:29:19 but we need more of those guys. We need some villains and we need, I respect that he just quit live straight away and he's like, this isn't for me. I want to play on the PGA tour. They like, you know, they promised me. entry into the majors, all this stuff. I didn't get it. I'm walking away on principal.
Starting point is 01:29:39 And, yeah, just a really talented player when he was at Oklahoma State as well as, I think, several other places prior to that. It was kind of a crazy, I was just kind of watching out of the corner of my eye this morning, and Sebastian Soderberg kind of bottled it earlier. The bullet, Marcus
Starting point is 01:29:57 Armadage, played horribly today. Oliver Lendell, the finish my pillow guy, it was up there we've got I mean it was it was like really topsy turvy Callum Hill Daniel Hillier
Starting point is 01:30:12 some of the Sallie some of the guys that you're always bitching about that are always on the leaderboard of these things like it's like the same guys every week Brandon Thompson Thompson and Nicholas Norgaard
Starting point is 01:30:24 and you know Ayn Hal Hidalgo all these guys and it's you know You can't breeze pass finish my pillow guy I've used that one before I know, but
Starting point is 01:30:34 that's good. I have not to hear it. It's just all I can ever think about when I see Oliver Liddle's name. He gets me. He is one of the guys that's up there every week, Liddell. Richard Sterney finished solo 11th. I watched the end. I was like, man,
Starting point is 01:30:55 I'm kind of sad. It's just a crazy weekend of golf and travel. I was like, man, I kind of mad, I missed most of this tournament. Like, it looked like it was a fun tournament. Not an amazing golf course there in Amsterdam, but, you know, good, good pro golf venue and some fun holes out there. Which I also don't know.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Mason Howell teed it up. He missed the cut. He was eight over, but just thought that was interesting. He was making the trip over. I don't know what P's up to. He's like, he's not playing DP World Tour right now. He's not playing anywhere right now. We're number one on the list.
Starting point is 01:31:28 He's resting, baby. Yeah. I know, but he's got to, he likes to play. He likes to. stay sharp get shinnickok coming up he's probably you know taking a bunch of trips up there we're going to be fine we're fine dude i'm kind of with you this would have been this one would have made sense i would have thought you know and then come back and take the week off before shinicock i mean p the p's last three start or last two starts have been the pga and the masters
Starting point is 01:31:54 and then before that he played joeberg south africa and cotter like that's he's just not playing a lot man He's played two times in the last 10 weeks, 11 weeks. Need more, Pete. That's surprising. On the Live Golf Tour at Liv Andalusia, Tyrell Hatton won by 2 over John Rom. Legion 13 got the dub as well. Rocky Rombie Meyman locks into the third spot.
Starting point is 01:32:28 They're locked into a spot for the open. I didn't get to watch a whole lot of this. watch some of the finish there at Valderama. I think, yeah, Valterama. Valdarama tends to be overrated. I would have to say it. I felt that way when it was a DP World Tour event
Starting point is 01:32:43 and I feel the same way I don't live. But it, despite Arlo White's pleadings, it just doesn't really quite do it for me. That's disrespectful to Sevy as well. It is. A great man. I think the,
Starting point is 01:32:57 one other thing I think is sick. I know we talk about this a lot. The open qualifying series, like JT Post and got into the open today via like you got in the U.S. open but he also got into the open. I think the open just having that having those carrots spread around the world for players who are hot is is cool. Just sprinkle a little love you know for you know for certain players.
Starting point is 01:33:20 Something that's some of the strive for or add at a particular tournament if you're if you're not in the open, um, whatnot. Probably the bigger, you know, as it usually is with live, more off course than it his encore stuff. Some, some rumblings this week. Heard some rumblings when we were out at RIV, you know, maybe calling into question the Live UK event a little bit, not reporting that, just reporting and keep your eyes peeled. And then David Rumsie reported today came out for front office sports.
Starting point is 01:33:48 The headline was LiveGolf may not have funding to last entire season. And also says, and they're a top executive at one of LiveGolf's partners told front office sports, every remaining tournament is on the fence. How many more do we have on the schedule this year? I think there's five left. The next one is 47 days away, I believe, in UK, the JCB event, had heard some rumblings that, I don't know exactly how things work, but, you know, there was some, you know,
Starting point is 01:34:20 the flights getting booked or the travel getting booked to head out there was delayed and nobody was responding to that and have heard, you know, there's all kinds of reports of vendors not getting paid. as well that's kind of part of the reason why the you know every shot every every every hole whatever it was called uh went away recently kind of without any communication from live golf um making it's still loud though i don't know it's still louder it is they are still playing music which i honestly had forgotten about until i tuned it in today and like you know coming down the stretch with two holes to play you just hear techno music blast if more people refuse or donate their refund
Starting point is 01:35:02 that every shot, every where thing, will they be able to finish the season, Sallie? That's a good question. That's a good question. So I'll try to dig to the bottom of this, and I don't have all the information, but apparently like, you know, the purses are in
Starting point is 01:35:18 an account that's like locked. Like the purses had to be like put somewhere they can't be touched. Yeah. But like the- Like an Al Gore lockbox. Yes. Like they're going to pay the purses for the tournaments, no matter what. But like the slush fund or wherever for like the operating where like player salaries come from like the story about the players not getting paid.
Starting point is 01:35:37 They're salaries. And the vendor's not getting paid is kind of coming from the same accountish, you know, kind of same budget, same whatever it may be. And that's where the problems are stemming from. So again, I don't know what's going to happen here. This would not, it would not put it past, you know, this would be in the live golf playbook to like float these rumors out there, then show up at, you know, the JCB event and be like, oh, Everyone thought we'd be away, and here we are. So I'm not prematurely calling the death of LiveGolf just yet.
Starting point is 01:36:09 All I'm saying is where there was smoke, there was fire when it came to New Orleans. And there's some smoke now around the UK event. I don't know if it would be different in the U.S. ones at all. The front office sports article kind of insinuated that, you know, the relationship with, you know, they're going to Bedminster in the U.S. next. The relationship with Saudi Arabia and Trump might, you know, make it less likely. That event gets canceled or whatnot. but things aren't going great, it would seem.
Starting point is 01:36:35 There's also an article published on Bunkard this past week that said, investors who joined forces with Live will be doing so with a new look product, with the league set to lean heavily on the team aspect of its competition. Senior sources informedbunker.com.com. U.K. That the schedule will be reduced to 10 events, which will be played across five continents. It's expected to, and this is not a joke,
Starting point is 01:36:58 consists of five, quote, signature events and five, team majors. And yeah, some players are a part of the pitches, pitches to investors. ROM is not one of them. And, yeah, hearing some rumblings about about what's going on there, but kind of still figuring out what the path is to reincorporating. If there is bankruptcy,
Starting point is 01:37:22 and this year, if there is bankruptcy, it looks like players can get out of their deals. And I don't know how you're getting investments come in if ROM is not under contract anymore. Seems like there's a lot of stuff still to be figured out, but the rumblings don't seem to be super encouraging if you listen to independent sources on that. What are you buying then?
Starting point is 01:37:41 If contracts. An idea. An idea. I would argue that the IP has negative value. Like, that's a liability. Got maybe two good events in the... I think that's it. South Africa and Australia.
Starting point is 01:37:58 I guess you've got employees. employees, but the employees, I don't know, like if they're not getting paid, they're probably going to, and I guess it all just comes down to Bryson, right? Like you're, and then Bryson's going to want his share of the equity. And it's going to be the Bryson Golf League. Bryson and friends. Yeah. Again, that equity, what is the equity? What is it, what is it worth? What is the, again, like the alternative, though, here is like eventually you go get equity in PGA Tour Enterprises, like an organization that's been around for a long time and is worth $12 plus billion or you want equity in a league.
Starting point is 01:38:36 I know you're going to not get that equity within the next five years if you follow the Kepka model and all that stuff. But like what's going to be worth more, your equity in the PGA tour, is that going to be worth more or this league that's worth $0.0 if it's not worth negative dollars. Like I don't get the incentive for players. If the money's not like overwhelming, what does the incentive for players continue on this is something? I just will not be able to understand.
Starting point is 01:39:00 And if it ends up, if Bryson and ROM go through with this for a lot less money, I'd be stunned and I will put my hand up and say I was wrong on that, but I don't see a path forward. I'd love to see it keep going in some skeleton shell capacity. And you've got, you know, you've got a, a Legion 13 team, like a ROM-less, Hattonless Legion 13 team going against, like the Clems. weeks may still be intact or the high flyers. Cleeks finished dead last this week.
Starting point is 01:39:31 And Arlo is still calling everybody up. He thought we'd be dead. Here we are. Let's go over to Scott Vincent's cousin here on 13. We've got four events left, Sally. We've got New York, Indianapolis, and Michigan. Or sorry, we got England, New York, Indianapolis, and then the team championship in Michigan.
Starting point is 01:39:52 Plus, of course, the fall of New Orleans rescheduled events. that's not even on their schedule. Of course not. It's not a real thing. Cam Smith also spoke this week or was asked about, you know, if there are reduced purses on live, do you see yourself sticking around for that? He said this has been an awesome four or five years for us golfers,
Starting point is 01:40:15 for everyone around the world. It's changed a lot of things, but I think realistically it's time for everything to come back to the way it was. It's obviously not working. It's pretty far-fetched realistically. so we'll see what happens. I'm sure there are going to be a lot of changes, particularly with prize money next year.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Yeah. I mean, telling it like it is at least, but yeah, a little disheartening of like, now that I've got my bag, it's time for, it's time for us to all let's get back together. Like, it's time.
Starting point is 01:40:42 Yeah. He's playing a better golf, man. He had a good week this week. I think he was T5 this week as well. So hopefully that PJ championship performance looks a little bit more sustainable on his part. I'm tired of you shitting all over him. I'm tired of just,
Starting point is 01:40:56 playing bad golf. I'm not shitting all over. He's just playing bad golf. I'm kidding. I'm tired of you not shitting all over MTC. Stand for something here. Tough love. Tough. So yeah, I don't know. I'm sure there's going to be more stuff trickling out this week. You know, on a couple different fronts I have a feeling. We'll probably learn a little bit more. But yeah, this is the time period where Liv's going to be pushing hard for for some investment and whatever the future of that looks like. I think it's going to be drastically different than what we know. So anything else before we move towards wrapping.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Got a couple, A, longest day in golf tomorrow. And I want to give some props to Golf Channel for properly covering it. I think they're going to do some live covers. They got a correspondent out at each USGA final qualifying site tomorrow as well as Aeman up at Shinnock. So props to them, I think it's one of the things in golf that should be absolutely celebrated. And best of luck, especially to all the competitors at Springfield Country Club and Springfield, Ohio. Great, great spot, great course. Just love that they always have final qualifying up there.
Starting point is 01:42:11 One of Donnie's best, a little torture chambers. And then, yeah, I think Ben Coles, friend of the program, one of the BMW charity pro am, Greenville, South Carolina. And, and Sali, I think he won by four. O.G. Lott, won the, that's right. A lot. Clap and sheeks out there. One of the Celebrity Division.
Starting point is 01:42:36 Love that. And then on PGA Tour America's, Corey Pereira won. And it was about a little under a year after his wife died of cancer. So I thought that was a really cool story. Just obviously sad, but just a good story of resilience. keeping your head up and just having something to play for
Starting point is 01:42:56 having golf to keep you going. That was the Mexico championship. Not to be confused with the Mexico Open presented by Vodontal World. Anything else from you, Big, before we move towards rapping. Yeah, I was just going to say we
Starting point is 01:43:15 get the Curtis Cup next week from Bel Air in Los Angeles. So there will be some golf channel coverage of that i believe what right uh saturday sunday some golf channel in the evening and then maybe some online stuff the first day of play on friday so if you want to see bell air if you want to see you know the the top u.s amateur golfers versus gb and i check that out i will i will say that's about as good as it gets for prime time viewing match play at belair
Starting point is 01:43:52 and you know just oh sign me sign me the fuck off that's great i don't know bel air well so i am looking forward to to watching not up against the signature event too is is helpful just yeah we're gonna have it have a nice uncaotic week of watching golf hopefully but uh it's also crazy real quick i was just thinking about the the longest day in golf some of these guys are going to be playing in that tomorrow in oh hi in you know the various sites in ohio after having played like like 28 holes today. That's true. On a mat and
Starting point is 01:44:26 Mirrefield Village is a massive walk as well. Thankfully, JT. Posten does not, does not need to do that. But another big thanks to Ally for having us out this past week. And I give big shout to our guys that are still on the ground there. Drew and Matt still in the media center here. This was a long week, long hours on top of the team that was just coming straight from from Taurus as well. on the video side. So a very, very busy couple of weeks for us making some content. So I appreciate
Starting point is 01:44:57 all of the help from everyone in front of and behind the cameras, getting all the photos and all the social media and everything that went into that. So thanks. It was so much fun. That live up to the hype being there in person. I'm really, really, really glad we made the trip, fought the jet lag and we're better, better off for it. So thank you. Thank you to ally and the entire team there. Solly, how was the red eye? Great. I did totally fine. I, that was surprisingly decent energy how was yours it was good it was good i landed landed in newark uh had a tight tight turn and united rocked him even though i had to transfer from a to c still rocked i might be team red eye now man i don't know i've done like three in a row and it's it's been
Starting point is 01:45:38 way you know not nearly as as hard as i would have thought so i would say individual results may vary they can't they can't i think when you're already yeah when you're already just exhausted every day it's kind of like yeah all right at least i'm at least i'm home uh our bs see Canadian Open on the PGA tour this week. Dow Championship on the LPGA Tour DP World Tour is off until after the U.S. open on the content front. We have got a
Starting point is 01:46:01 Shinnecock preview coming out on Tuesday. Just talking about the golf course, breaking it down, got some interviews in there. Got a bunch of drone footage and stuff talking about the holes. So make sure to check that out on the No Langup podcast. YouTube channel. We're also going to draft our best U.S. opens. That episode
Starting point is 01:46:18 will be out. I can't wait for this Thursday. That is going to be a very, very good one. Wolfie said that he's not going to judge this one because he's on the USG Museum Committee and he's he's biased. He has to recuse himself. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:33 What's going on the trap draw this week? THG. Oh, THG is back. Well, we'll see. We're recording a World Cup preview on Thursday. We're going to try to get it turned and posted Thursday evening.
Starting point is 01:46:49 Massive. THG is back. Tell your friends. Got to give him some rowback. We will also have an every shot from young Icarito, Neil Schuster, that is going to be coming out on our YouTube channel, the No Lang Up YouTube channel at some point this week as well. Sorry, I don't know the actual day confirming that one.
Starting point is 01:47:09 But Neil played Shinnock. We filmed every shot. We got his reaction to everything. You'll get a preview of how the course will play. If the wind blows like we're hoping it will, because the wind blows at Shinnokok and it absolutely blew for us. on the media day. So, amen.
Starting point is 01:47:24 We have strung this out with the hope that the champion of the U.S. Women's Open would call in. Sounds like she is still doing media in other places. And we were unable to snag her. I think, unfortunately, it was looking that way. But next time. You get us next time, Nellie. Thank you. We appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:47:44 So thank you, everyone for tuning in live. Thank you, Mr. T.C. Thank you, Big Randy. Thanks to our friends at Tidlist. noon, Robeck, and Ally as well. As mentioned, Matt and Drew, running the ones and twos. A little bit back to normalcy here in the coming week.
Starting point is 01:47:59 But thank you for listening. We'll have a lot of content coming here, and we'll be back. A ton of live shows around the U.S. Open. You know what's coming. So make sure you subscribe and stay tuned. We'll see you back here next week. Cheers.
Starting point is 01:48:09 Thank you to the protesters.

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