No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1170: Best US Opens Draft

Episode Date: June 12, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Be the right club today. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Langeup podcast. Sali here,
Starting point is 00:00:33 third iteration. All we do is drafts these days. We are going to be drafting the best U.S. opens of all time. We are going to go clockwise around here. New background, new house. Hello, Pye, man. How are you?
Starting point is 00:00:45 Hello, guys. Yeah, you know what? I won the PGA draft and I just instantly moved into a new house, newfound celebrity. Just a new lifestyle, man. And it's it's great to be called into the press center now that this next majors come around unlikely victory. But, you know, I'm enjoying my new life. Big radius here. Hello, big. Hi, guys. excited to be back. I missed the PGA draft. You know that was killing me. So I'm back and I'm looking to take this one. What would you have taken with the number one pick? Do you know? I wasn't prepared to answer that. I kind of like them all, D. I celebrate their entire collection, entire catalog. Neil Schuster is here. Hello, Neil. Ola Torres, good to be back in the saddle. These mock drafts, I'm going to be Todd McShay here pretty soon, or Mel Kuiper.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Todd, Todd, Todd, Todd, great agility, ready to go today. These are marks, Neil. I know. There's a lot of reps, though. You know, a lot of good reps. This is good. glad to be here fresh off all my momentum in the pga draft and uh did you win honestly no i know i didn't win but i didn't finish last okay yeah yeah uh yeah wiki yellow and uh indeed you know
Starting point is 00:01:58 congrats on the new place hopefully you can you can earn an e j marshall platter for your backyard oh it's on its way man we've got some work to do but uh yeah i think we got big pigs ahead a lot to discuss here a lot goes into a u.s open uh we know you got to drive it. You got to drive it long. You've got to drive it straight. As of today, as of today of the publish of this episode, Titleist New Tour Proven GTS drivers are officially in golf shops worldwide. Guys, I am putting all of the, any equity I have remaining to pump, you know, to celebrate golf equipment is going into the GTS driver. It's the greatest driver ever hit. I think you guys might be able to attest to some of this at Torasau. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Have you guys ever seen me drive it that way? fortunate i hated it i the guy was swinging so fucking free it's not good people i mean it was i kept looking up expecting balls to be offline and they just weren't i got the data to match it if you want to see look at in just these is just the six rounds that i tracked in torresas and arcos up to almost gaining a full shot on strokes players off the uh on on scratch players off the t that's up a half shot uh for my previous baseline just immediate immediate impact this was a include I got some penalty shots with some irons off teas in this as well. So the driver itself was just out of control good. Over 65 PJ tour players have already put the GTS drivers in the bag. That's why
Starting point is 00:03:24 Titleist has been the most played driver brand on the PGA tour for seven straight seasons and counting. Go to Titleist.com to find a fitting near you and get dialed in off the tee. I touch 170 ball speed with it the other day. Haven't really even been working on the stack that much. It's just try one, please. I beg of you, Titles.com, find a fitting near you. It is an incredible, incredible driver. DJ was even driving it well yesterday. Even little DJ. Little DJ was hitting it well.
Starting point is 00:03:50 God, could you have said that in a more condescending way? No, I meant it in the most condescending way possible. TC posted a video of my swing and even I was like, damn, that guy looks like pretty freed up. Look at that guy releasing the club with the driver. That's amazing. All right, run a show for those that have maybe missed our first couple of iterations of this that we've done. We started with the Masters. We went around, did a draft order in order,
Starting point is 00:04:16 and each person got to pick their favorite or the best Masters, best PGA. Now we're on the U.S. Open, of course. So whoever has the number one pick gets to choose, and you can explain it any way you want. You are searching. You're trying to make a collection almost view it. DJ, you explain this better than I have each time we've done this.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Explain it. Yeah, you're collecting memorabilia. You're collecting collectibles. You know, what records are you trying to put up on your shelf? you know are you if you want to invite people over to listen i think that's a different collection then maybe i'm just going to put my headphones on and listen to the smiths right like it's up to you what kind of collection you want to put together uh how much you're going to pander to the judges which are usually handpicks simps that sally goes out and finds uh so you know it's up to you
Starting point is 00:04:59 whether you want to go out and try to win whether you want to run your own race uh it's it's putting together a collection you can stand behind and be like this this is my squad this is my collection right here. I don't know how I can explain it any more clearly than that. Well, yeah, because you can do themes with it. You can just draft, you know, great champions. You can just draft best courses. You could do dramatic moments. You could be, you know, the greatest meltdowns, Bates. There's a whole new class with U.S. Opens of greatest US GA disasters. Sure. It could go in here like that. There's a lot of strategy that goes into a lot of this one. How many rounds? We didn't agree on this before.
Starting point is 00:05:34 How many rounds do we want to do here? I think we could go 10 rounds on this. It's like this is I'm so much more fired up for this one than the PGA championship. Let's let's do four and then we can do a hefty honorable mention. Well, okay. So there's a little twist to this one. The guests are going to, the surprise guest judges. So we're going to be sending the audio and our lists to a set of judges. We did five of them for the masters. That was too many.
Starting point is 00:06:02 We did three for the PGA. We're going to have three, probably three, as I'm saying this, I still need a commitment from one person. But at least two of the people are not going to be able to listen to the audio from this. They're just going to have to see the list. Maybe we can create something at the end. You can include one sentence to explain your list. You know, maybe a word count on this.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I already see some shenanigans coming from your end of the longest run-on sentence ever. But a jiff, maybe. We used to be able to include, you know, the audio so they can listen to it all to, you know, to make their votes, their ranking of who wins this draft. It's going to be a little bit truncated this time around. We want the least educated voters we can possibly. We're going to do mail-in ballots too, so. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:06:52 So that's how this is going to play out. These are going to be it. I've told you guys the judges before in the previous episodes, these are going to be a little bit of a surprise. Okay. We're going to completely surprise with this one. Judges, if you're in line, judges, stay in line. All these final picks are coming in.
Starting point is 00:07:14 All right. I am going to duck race it. Are we good with four rounds? I just feel like four rounds. Four is very clean. It is light. Oh, it's, but that's what the five with the masters. I got other shit to do today, TCS.
Starting point is 00:07:29 We did five. We do need to agree on this before we duck race it. Do we do four or five? I think five rounds for the U.S. Open four was hard to get to with the PGA, but I think I think we could get there with the U.S. Open. All right, fine. You guys got the votes. That's fine. Steam roll, Dege. They don't have the votes. Randy, you're the, you're the decided. Yeah. Hey, listen. I think four is, you got to state your case, four of them.
Starting point is 00:07:50 All right, four it is. Four it is. We are off with the duck race. Neal out in front early. We do you with this one thing we've learned with the duck races, you do not want to be out front early. I am coming in in fifth right now. Which is a one where there's great thing. Don't want the first pick. I think this, I don't know how. I don't know how. I don't know how. I feel like US open is a deep field. You might not need it. 10 seconds to go. Here I come right up in the middle. Tully stack the duck. Oh, no, no, but here comes deal at the top.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Oh, damn it. Oh, Neil is going to be the number one overall. Oh, I love that. Devastation. DJ's second, Sully, third, Randy, fourth, T.C. fifth. That is officially. Solly's in prime simping territory. I mean, the number one take is all the pressure.
Starting point is 00:08:43 It's the only one people remember. It really is. Does he like history? Does he like history? Does he want to sit? He'll like loud trades to Marcus Russell. Yeah. He can throw the ball 70 yards.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Michael Turner. That guy ran a 418. Darius Hayward Bay. Yeah. Yeah. Give me a lot of. All right. So we're just going to get right to it, huh?
Starting point is 00:09:05 Let's get right to it. Get right to it. God, I am stuck between two. I mean, it's back to back years. Am I going to simp or not is the question. 99 in 2000. That's exactly right, T.C. I'm going to go with 99, though.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Yeah, you know, when they put freaking statues up of you guys, of a guy, like that's, that's it, man. And just everything with Payne Stewart at Pinehurst number two, I think Pinehurst is one of my favorite open uh u s open venues probably my favorite it's that between that and shinnock the put the pose you're going to be a freaking father randy okay you know just lineage stuff and then obviously tragedy afterwards months later dies in a plane crash i mean talk about going out on top the whole look the knickers the the hat that he could pull off but bryson couldn't like i'm i'm just all about the cut off rain jacket like paint stewart but what's funny is slightly like i remember watching this but i was very young right and so the next year tiger had
Starting point is 00:10:09 more of an impact on me dominant performance at pebble beach uh but i think i'm going to go with pain stewart because over the years that has become more uh impactful for me they played on the TVs at pinehurst when you check in they've kind of got the the rolling loop of like the history of pinehurst and and they have highlights from this tournament and just the shots he hit into like 16 and 17. Some of the like just balled out down the stretch and then sunk the putt on 18. I also want to give a shout out that Payne Stewart got like kind of body by Lee Jansen, Lightspeed's father twice, DJ, twice. Both of Lee Jansen's wins were over Payne Stewart. In 19, was it 93, I believe? And yet 93 at Baltistral. And then the year before at Olympic
Starting point is 00:10:56 Club, Lee Jansen gets the best of Payne Stewart again. Then he bounces back a year later at Pinehurst makes a big-ass statement. And, you know, Payne Stewart, you look back, listen to those Rider Cup deep dives that you did, Sallie. Payne Stewart just seemed like a bit of an alpha on tour back in the 90s. You know, a potential great man who, you know, kind of cut, cut, career cut short. What could have been of Payne Stewart as a gentleman in the game in his later years? I think, give me 99.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I'm taking Payne Stewart of Pinehurst. A player that evolved and changed a lot even over. shortened career you know a guy that couldn't get it done a guy that was a little bit of a i don't know about an outcast but just a big personality that wasn't necessarily reined in in the right way and then evolved and became a much more of a favorite of his peers it's obviously was between those two as well neal and uh it's a great pick i don't think there's a wrong one there randy were you between those two because that what you would have taken no not at number one i think this is a bit of a reach uh i will say neal did not mention you know that
Starting point is 00:12:00 the final scoreboard on Sunday afternoon, everybody knows Payne won, Phil finish runner up, but tied for third, VJ Singh and Tiger Woods. He had David Duvall there in T7, and my guy, John Houston,
Starting point is 00:12:15 was tied for 10th going into the final round, did not have a good Sunday. The king of the sanctuary. That's right. You feel like 99 was a reach at number one? A little. Pinehurst kind of stunk back then. For sure,
Starting point is 00:12:29 but like I, I just think about, you know, you want iconic moments of the U.S. Open. I don't think there's another one of the pain, the statue of Payne Stewart on 18. And I, yeah, just all and all like Randy, you're kind of making my case. All the boys were involved. All the boys. You know, Phil was good, BJ.
Starting point is 00:12:48 The action was fantastic. It was a good golf tournament. Listen, I had a high grade on this one. I just, I didn't have it one, one. But I just know, this one's not coming back around. Totally. If you wanted, you got to take it. I wanted this one. I want this one.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I would love to gas you up here, Neil. I'd love to gaslight you. This was number one on my board. This was an excellent selection. Wow. Consensus. That's a great thing. I wanted it in my collection.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I'm curating my collection, Randy. I can, if I can like vividly read back to you, the exact call Dick Inbert made, made the put and like do the pose on it. Like that's pretty, that's like the iconic US open moment of our lifetimes, I think. Man,
Starting point is 00:13:28 I don't know the right way to say this. Isn't it crazy to think about Bryson or Rom or Rory or Scotty or someone winning a tournament now that gets just encapsulated in a statue form the same way that that one did? I don't know how that would ever happen again in the modern everything's a joke. It is the coolest celebration. Detached irony world that we live in now. I just don't think that would ever happen. And I'm with you that I'm like, that's the coolest thing ever. You know, but if it would just be, I don't know if it would go over.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I think people could get a couple of tiger fistpumps. as iconic but i mean that's got to be the top one or two post win celebration i mean just the balance i got a picture on my instagram of me doing it's hard like get your fucking leg back there and your arm out in front right i like to see you do it there's also shit that has to happen that like is very sad that then yeah yeah like stops that moment in time yes so which which is all factored into i think part of it yeah goes number one is just like the the tragedy of it too the what if of pain steward so anyway that's the number one pick the brory statue might be him peeling out of the parking lot uh there at pinehurst as well in
Starting point is 00:14:41 twenty twenty four express tc that was for the platter for you i'm trying to think if they built a statue of kneel what the what the pose would be i'd have to go back through some of our videos and see if we can come up with something if i feel with his hands on his knees Yeah, at Pacific girl. The ball going out of balance with a hot left ball. This is like that, that future Jiff, when he, like, has the computer click and he's like, it all becomes clear to be after the fact.
Starting point is 00:15:09 That's the deal pose. That's true. Nobody told me there was a bunker there. Well, I'll be brief with the number two pick. I think you guys probably know where I'm going. I am going to simp. The question is which the question is which direction I'm going to simp, which even that I think is not that much of a question.
Starting point is 00:15:24 It's going to be the 2000. U.S. Open at Pebble Beach golf links. It gives me such a license to get way off the board in the remaining rounds. I obviously have an award-winning team already for the PJ Championship. Now I've got the 2000 U.S. Open. I can do, I'm untouchable at this point. I'm above the law. I can pick anything I want after this. It's the greatest major performance in the history of the world. Guy wins back 15 shot. Solid core golf ball.
Starting point is 00:15:54 A different golf ball. only you know boring u.s. open on my life time easily 15 shot win cool man sure that's fine man it's a i mean it's it's it's on the pantheon i i don't know i'm not going to sit here and justify myself for picking the 2000 u.s. j this was number two or number three on my big board is this is i'm right there with you yeah and some drama after the fact with stevie williams exactly i'm not having any more balls i know i'm trying to think of the record uh like equivalent you know it would be like if the if the producer wasn't going to make it there if they're using some guitar that only had three strings on it or something it's yeah you know guy almost ran out of golf balls it's crazy
Starting point is 00:16:34 god i hope the judges don't factor in he almost ran out of golf balls into the judging here they won't be listening randy i'll just be the list yeah randy's just hunking him on message boards where he is where he's sitting with his weird ass collection why don't you can run through your master's picks again dark twisted fantasy I regrettably am going to have to simp here as well. I'm going to take it wasn't even on my board. It's more of the gross. Unbelievable U.S. Open.
Starting point is 00:17:11 The last 18 whole U.S. Open playoff that we'll ever see. I literally had Tory 2008 for the simps crossed off on my list. Thank you. I'm glad you left it for me as a title winner of one of these things. And you shockingly, shockingly finishing last. I will take it. It was one of the great U.S. opens, iconic U.S. Open. The putt on 18.
Starting point is 00:17:36 The put on 18 on Saturday is the loudest I've ever heard of golf course ever. That's not even including like the prior hole where he chips in on 17 and sends everybody into complete mayhem. The eagle put on Saturday into finishing it off on Sunday. And then the Monday playoff with Rocco Media, which went an extra hole as well. 91 whole tournament for it looked like it was going to be the last u.s. opening ever won oh yeah it was on a broken leg that overshadows the tory pines aspect of this tournament which which was a factor in in you know this it fall i think this is the only reason it fell to number three was because it's troy pines but iconic iconic for a lot of different reasons major number 14 for the cat i can keep
Starting point is 00:18:17 going if you want me to but you can't yeah keep going please leave westwood right there as well dj trayan i'll to tell you about him. Robert Carlson. Just a murder's row that you had a down this year. But just the working man aspect of Rocco Mediate. He's riding his horse pretty hard. Rocco shows up in a red shirt on Monday to go up against
Starting point is 00:18:38 against the cat. I knew we'd make it. I knew we'd make it. Unbelievable. I knew he'd make it. I knew he'd make it. It's just an incredible, incredible US and I'm proud to, proud to sip into this into this. I mean, Tiger getting his best Kerry Shrug impression on every time he's a bad one drops to his knees. How much of that?
Starting point is 00:18:53 good one you know he's not hurting god you guys are such sick fucks i can't believe your i can't leave your ms j wasted so much on that on that redesign with reiss jones soly the taxpayers sitting here have to justify the greatest player of all time winning on one leg at 91 holes is i don't know it's a little too much carry yeah i don't know it's a reach going out for me. His leg was in a fracture in his leg. He did surgery. Was he injured? He was done for the year after that.
Starting point is 00:19:24 And you're going to doubt the seriousness of the injury. You know what always blows my mind? Do you remember the commercial that he did when he walked out on water, the EA sports commercial? They walked out of the water and then like put the golf club in the water and then hits the shot. The leg was broken there too. That was right. I think right after the 08.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I remember I interviewed him for like this golf week. video game story and was asking about that. And yeah, so maybe it wasn't that hurt. I don't know. It was all for show. Oh, DJ. I remember that look at the new gameplay. Really good features. I didn't know you interviewed a video game. Yeah, a couple of times. I'll send you some send you some picks. I was there the day he was doing like he was doing the motion capture stuff. So he had like the like the like skin tight suit with all the orbs on it.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Yeah. It was great. And I did it again with him and Shaq and Arnold Palmer were doing a commercial. Shack, Roundhouse. Jeff Shackleford? No, the Shack is.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Shaq did a roundhouse kick right into a flat screen TV. Knocked it, knocked it down. We can do a separate episode about that if you, if you want. But it's all a great. It's all I'll congratulate you. It's a great.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Thank you. God. Finally, the new gameplay. Randy we had a green uh all right let's um get serious let's get serious you know what if you're brave you're gonna hold this is a player to be named later Phil Mickelson what he wins his what an avant-garde move that would be Brady's just gonna take all of his runner-ups except we're gonna run out of around that I thought
Starting point is 00:21:10 about that I thought about that I was able to get four the six No, you Jemokes, we're talking about like Rocco Media. We're talking all these names. Let's go to 1960 in my neck of the woods, Cherry Hills. Great. Okay, you have three golf titans squaring off against each other. Arnold Palmer famously drives the first green. Guys, having played that course a couple times now, that,
Starting point is 00:21:38 your boy ain't hitting that with modern equipment. All goes too far. You have Arnold Palmer, the, the, the, the, King takes down both Jack Nicholas, 20-year-old amateur, and Mr. Hogan himself, who I believe was in his mid-40s, maybe 47 years old. Jack at a time had the lead on the back nine. I'm reading. He missed a very short one at 13. He three-putted 14. This was back in the day when the final day of the U.S. Open was 36 holes. They played the third and fourth rounds on the same day. men were men. Arnold Palmer, I believe he entered that final round, what, seven shots back?
Starting point is 00:22:23 Do I have that right? I think that's right. Seven shots entering the final round. Yeah. And went out and birdied six of the first seven holes. And just it was an iconic, iconic win for the true king of golf, the guy who would modernize and move forward this great game, Arnold Palmer, 1960, the best U.S. best open.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Great pick. Yeah, great pick. Bit of a reach. I probably could have got in a third round with all these simps. So I'm not sure
Starting point is 00:22:54 about your draft strategy. Randy, I'm a massive, massive fan of Arnie. It wasn't even my top Arnie selection. For being honest. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:04 So, guys, I'm going to 1913. Oh, it was literally the greatest game ever played. Literally. That's what,
Starting point is 00:23:12 that's what they're calling it. The greatest game ever played. I mean, the guy had a 10-year-old on the bag, okay? A 10-year-old. We're talking about Francis we met, Brookline, the amateur, you know, youngster, and just, like, put golf on the map in America. Neil, he went on to work for your wife's former firm. Brown Brothers?
Starting point is 00:23:40 Yeah. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He beat Ted Ray. Ray, Harry Varden, just a total every man lived across the street. Randy, very similar to like the guy that got pulled off the roof and they cleaned
Starting point is 00:23:58 him up and he won the open. Very similar to that. So, I mean, I don't know what you chuckleheads want me to say. Like he wanted a playoff. He beat the shit out of these guys in a playoff. Literally the greatest game ever played. One of our judges is going to love that. I have a feeling.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Is it, is it Eddie Lowry? It's for instance, we met's great grandson. One of the judges. I mean, T.C., it's worth it just even for the Eddie Lowry, you know, detour you could take, right? The liner notes on Eddie Lowry himself are, are worth this selection. I mean, just fascinating life in golf himself. After this, it's, yeah, it's great no-brainer. Eddie Lowry was the 10-year-old.
Starting point is 00:24:38 He was the caddy who then became a car dealer slash just wheeler and dealer in the world of, of golf. He was the guy that kind of made the match happen, right, with Ken Venturi and, uh, and those guys out at Cyprus. And yeah, it's just a,
Starting point is 00:24:55 just fast, it's like the start of a domino. Exactly. And there's just a hundred and fifty more dominoes that fell down and created the game that we know today. That's right. And, and yeah,
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Starting point is 00:25:57 T.L. Are you taking the train to Shinnock? You know, T.C., I was thinking about it. I just, I haven't worked out the logistics completely yet. Okay. Guys, there's only one way, one place to go after, after Eddie Lauer. You better do what I'm thinking. You better do it, man. You better do it.
Starting point is 00:26:14 We're taking the train to Shinnock. Oh. 2004. It's a great pick. Mike Davis. Reteef Goosen. When I think of the U.S. Open, this is my, this is my shining light. This is my gold standard.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I love everything about 2004 than losing the golf course. Stopping play. It was spectacular. It was just like it basically spawned an entire generation. of U.S. opens. Like the, I don't think Chambers happens without the, the crazy shit that happened in 2004. And Goosen the entire time is just Mr. Cool, Mr. Calm, Mr. Collected.
Starting point is 00:26:57 He's just, like, hitting his iron stiff. He's making putts. Uh, with that. 24 putts on Sunday, TC. Yeah. It was, it was unbelievable. It was all dusty and burned out. Neil, you know, I mentioned it a lot.
Starting point is 00:27:11 My friend Brett was first alternate. So he's just sitting on the range the whole week, like waiting to get in, doesn't get in. But I'm getting all these updates from him. My senior year of high school, I think I just graduated from high school, like the week prior. I kind of just introduced, like, I think the Pave-in year was probably that was that 95, 96? Yeah, like that was maybe a little too early for me from an appreciating what the U.S. Open is all about perspective. And there was like the course set up. You had Butch versus Tiger.
Starting point is 00:27:49 There was a little spat post-breakup there. You had some studs in contention. It was probably Mickelson's closest, like real closest shot other than maybe wingfoot. Yeah, I'd say wingfoot would go at the top of that list. Yeah. Gosh, what else? I mean, you had, you had Fred Ridley and Prince Andrew as the honorary of, observers with a final group.
Starting point is 00:28:16 DC, can I read you the amateurs that made the cut in that one? Spencer Levine. Yeah. Oh, amateurs. Spencer Levine. Casey Wittenberg, Bill Haas and Chez Revy. Are you, amateurs that made the cut that year? I mean, it was, it was an unbelievable year.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Shegecky up there. Mike Weir, your boy, Fred Fung. Tiger shot 76 on Sunday. Magert was involved. Randy, there were only two players under par. Your teeth was minus four. Phil was minus two. Next closest was Jeff Maggert, a true villain, a plus one.
Starting point is 00:28:51 With Fred Funk, Robert Allenby, Steve Flesh. I know you're a big Steve Flesh guy. The final round scoring average was 78.7. But they crowned the last five groups by water in those greens. They were syringing. Yeah. I believe the scoring average amongst the final five groups was like three shots lower. in no small part because of the green watering.
Starting point is 00:29:17 That's truly like the proper test index. Average score post cut 79. Yeah, that's a fucking great tournament. That's the PTI. That's the PTI. That's the PTI. Randy's looking for it. Guys, we're losing their mind.
Starting point is 00:29:34 I mean, that's as good as it gets, guys. So. Bullons told the story once that they played. I don't know if it was on Sunday. They on seven, they played to the bunker. like short, I assume short left to chip up the hill on the par three, seventh because there was no holding the green and you didn't want to be long. You needed to play from the bunker to hit up the hill.
Starting point is 00:29:52 And he did par the seventh hole. That's what I'm talking about. Three putted from five. I actually like, I know they lost the course and it was like the, the, the, you know, prototype for being unfair. They lost the course, but they found themselves. Yeah. They found something much better.
Starting point is 00:30:13 But I do love the idea of like, yeah, it's a part three, but you got to play it like, you can't go right at the hole, man. You got to like play it strategically to try to make a three. This is a two shot. Yes, two shot part three. Figure it out, man. Like figure it out. You got to get it in the hole.
Starting point is 00:30:28 You know, like there's some other stuff that kind of presage there's this like the Olympic club when they, they had that meeks put that outrageous pin on 18. But, you know, obviously some stuff after the fact from this. But this was, this was like the pinnacle. of just the USGA doing, like the old USGA doing old USGA things. And this isn't the one that Phil went running after the Shinnecock that they were running after a bud. Well, and then it's, yeah, then it's set us up
Starting point is 00:30:57 for everything that happened in, in 2018, right? It's like a Rosetta Stone for, for everywhere we've, everything that's happened since, you know, is the decoder ring is you gotta go back and watch 2004 to understand why everything looks the way our tissue yeah yeah yeah there's all right where did you guys think i was going i don't want to say it there's another one like i think you your kind of reputation's over if you don't take yeah i think tc's trying to win he's not going to say it i think he's trying to win by taking francis we met and not
Starting point is 00:31:30 taking the one that i have in my mind all right well tron carter would have taken he would have taken this one in the first round going back to like the spencer levin stuff tuesday's drafting today exactly yeah He's pressing. You can't. What are you us open like this? Trey-Dates Tron Carter. You know, Tron Carter wouldn't have started until 2013, 2014.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Maybe, maybe Team Rose at Marion. But yeah, I mean, Spencer Levine, my entire online persona is cultivated after that picture of Spencer Levine with the visor on and that the, the, the, uh, that outrageous tropical shirt and his dad. Oh, that was as good as it gets. That was peak golf, guys. All right, who's up, Randy? Randy's up. Dude, I know no idea where he's going to go.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Hmm. The good thing is you know he's not going to take any of the ones that I'm looking at. All right, we have Mr. Palmer at Cherry Hills. Let's add Mr. Hogan, the one iron at Marion.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Oh, wow. I don't know how that fell out of the first round. I'm being honest. This is good value. Of course, Mr. Hogan was in a horrible, horrible head-on car accident. I believe about,
Starting point is 00:32:43 less than a year and a half before winning this U.S. Open. There were questions, you know, just that he survived, I think, was a bit of a miracle spent months in the hospital. Didn't know if he'd ever play golf again. And he comes to Marion in 1950. He's bandaged up. He's, you know, he's still got swelling. He's still dealing with the after effects of this horrible car crash.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And he comes to the 15th. he's leading by two shots he three putts 15 he bogey 17 and then on the 18th fairway he's in a three-way tie for the lead he needs a par to make the playoff that's when he hit neal his famous one iron he makes they got a plaque there they got a plaque out there on the course for that's right i've never seen it i've played the other course wow i'd love to hear about your whole round there deal yeah sure sure i just heard about the plaque. I haven't seen it. I just heard there's one out there. Kind of like to have it Baltas for LTC. And uh, Doughton Cabo where John Rob hit his first shot as a pro. They got the plaque there too. Johnny Rumble. He gets into the playoff, uh, over Lloyd Mangrum and George
Starting point is 00:33:58 Fazio. He beats both their asses. Uh, I should say gets into a playoff at what score, Randy? At plus seven. Seven. Seven over par through four rounds. That's the good stuff. We love that. This was Ben Hogan's second U.S. Open. He would go on to win four. Just an iconic, iconic shot commemorated with a marker in the fairway. And, you know, one of the celebrated titans of the game. It's a safe play, Randy.
Starting point is 00:34:28 It's still safe. I mean, it's pretty great. Most famous photo in golf history? Certainly on my list. What photo in golf history is more famous than that one? I think it's got to be that one. High Peskin, your photographer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:47 It's got to be Tiger at the Ryder Cup with the guy with the cigar in the background. That one probably reached more eyeballs. Yeah. Epic. God, that picture's epic. Ray, it's a great pick. I don't know how it felt to you. I don't know how it fell to you.
Starting point is 00:35:03 A lot of different ways I could go here. It's always really not all the Tiger was or gone. A lot. No, not all that's true. You got one more. I would be debasing if you took that. I know. You guys are talking.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I should take it, but you can't take it. That means in the next two rounds at least. So wheels a simp, though. Neil would, Neil would do it. I am going to go to Oakmont, and I'm going to 1962. Wow.
Starting point is 00:35:31 This was high on my board, Sally. Jack, Nicholas, Arnold Palmer in a playoff. Does that sound like something you might be interested in? absolutely dueling. They were tied through the entire back nine when Palmer bogied the 13th hole. They each part each of the remaining
Starting point is 00:35:48 five holes at Oakmont. They finished at minus one ahead of Bobby Nichols and Phil Rogers. 10,000 people showed up for the playoff. The playoff was actually on Sunday. The final round was they were still playing 36 holes a day in 1962. So the playoff was on Sunday. Decidly pro Palmer crowd. Nichols got out to it early. lead. He was four up through just six holes. Palmer did birdie nine, eleven and twelve to get within one, but bogeyed 13, ended up doubling the 18th hole. Nicholas won the playoff by three, but this was one that, I mean, Nicholas is obviously on the map, but, you know, those two, that would be
Starting point is 00:36:28 the, I believe the only time they would ever face off in a playoff in a major championship. I could have that wrong, but it is, again, something we're never going to see again, 18 holes, two players, to defining players of a generation in a playoff. That's a one-of-a-kind collectible, and I'm absolutely thrilled to add it to my collection. I'm a big fan of 18-hole playoffs so far, but I've got. What about 36-hole playoffs, Sala? What year was they doing that?
Starting point is 00:36:52 1925. Is that where you're taking? No, you're not an update. No, I'm up, right? You are. God, I can't believe this one fell to me either. But, Sallie, I will also go to Oakmont. And I will take these 19-19.
Starting point is 00:37:07 77. John Miller. 63, guys. Ever heard of it? The 63 that spawned, maybe a proto meme in golf, in the golf world, right? Of Johnny, I shot 63 Miller. How much do we miss that these days, guys? I just, I long for it.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I long for Johnny in the booth. I loved here. Genuinely, I never got tired of Johnny. I did this. I did that. That's why he's in the booth. That's stuff I wanted to hear constantly. And I think knocking down flag sticks.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Yeah, man. That's what he did it. So he could talk about it. It's, it's great. I, yeah, he shot 63 in the final round, bogey free on the back nine. Just the, the microwave man, Neil, you know, when he got hot, it was just nobody else had a chance. You hear the stories about him measuring yardages and in half yards. So how great outfits.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I mean, it's just, it's everything you're looking for out of one of those, you know, the greatest golf tournament. that I didn't get to watch, like, that happened 15 years before I was born or whatever. It led to the massacre at Wingfoot the next year. Exactly. I think the USGA took that personal. It's great on Wikipedia because if you search for this round, and it, like, it brings up the whole tournament, and it shows his approaches, like his clubs on every hole.
Starting point is 00:38:30 That's the level of respect for this round that's out there. And the fact that he bogeed seven, I think, seven or eight. He bogey to eight. Yeah. It's crazy to me. Three putt bogey. That section that you're looking at, TC, is wild. First hole, it hits a three iron to five feet, makes birdie.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Second hole, nine iron to a foot. Third hole hits a five iron. Listen to these clubs he's hitting in, too, like you said. Five iron to 25 feet makes it. Next hole is a par five. He taps one up there and makes birdie. The other birdie, he hit a two iron to 40 feet. That was a par five.
Starting point is 00:39:05 He made the two putted for birdie. Which that's a crowning there because that's a par four now. Oh, that's true. Well, there you go. Well, he still won by one. He still shot 63. It wasn't in relation to par. 13.
Starting point is 00:39:18 He hit a four iron to five feet. 15. He hit a four iron to 10 feet. I mean, it was just like stuffing the pinata. Bad boy stuff. And what he parted his last few, right? Part of the last three to end up winning by one over the great man,
Starting point is 00:39:33 John Schley. I can't tell you much about John Schley. from being honest. It is so fucked up. Kremlin Colorado, Randy. You know where Kremlin Colorado is? It's where John Schley was more. That might be out in the hinterlands, maybe. Tremblings up, I think out west of steam. Okay. Look forward to our John Schley deep dive.
Starting point is 00:39:55 That's in the works. I'll be on Randy's channel. It is so messed up that like this was, you know, there's been other 63s in majors, but not like final round 63s. to win majors. And I was, I was there in person when somebody broke the record and shot the first 62. Do you guys even remember who that was shot the first 602? Ricky Fowler at LACC. It was not.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I was confident, though. Was it Brandon Grace? Brandon Grace was what I was going to say. Chambers at Burkdale. Oh, Berkdale. And it was just like the most ho-hum thing ever of, you know, an iconic record like that falling. Yeah, but that's what birthed the Southern Guard.
Starting point is 00:40:37 did ryan ryan rickie shoot 63 at ls cc and zander shot 62 on thursday yeah that was shot 62 sorry i want to get it right yes yeah they tied rain and grace 62 yeah that was great u s open that was your u s o but tc and salli that's yeah you guys were flying the banner for that's your the wind didn't blow i don't know what you want what you want me to say it's good golf course we can only do so much. Randy, going back to yours real quick, I just want to shout out one more thing about Hogan. I had this in my notes,
Starting point is 00:41:13 just as I was doing research. The first round lead that week was minus six, and he won it plus seven. That is epic. I think the super got the, he got the message after after round one.
Starting point is 00:41:29 He already wasn't going to get the E.J. Marshall platter. We're not, yeah. We're not doing this shit, man. Randy, I would like to know as we shout these guys at, who is deserving of the Mr. title among these winners? Because I would put Johnny up there with Mr. Hogan. I think Johnny should be Mr. Miller. I think that's a good one.
Starting point is 00:41:49 He doesn't get that. He doesn't seem like he gets that respect. You hear a lot of Mr. Palmer. You never hear Mr. Miller. And it should be Mr. Miller. I would hit him with a Mr. Miller. He's a mister to me. I agree.
Starting point is 00:42:01 All the media's buddies with him, though, because he became one of them. So it was like, oh, that's Johnny. You know, it was much more of a collegial atmosphere with Johnny Miller in the media, I think. All right. I got a snake back. I was prepared for one pick. Actually, I'm not prepared for anything. But I, this is a reach here, but I want it.
Starting point is 00:42:21 For my curation, I want this one. I want 2006 at Wingfoot. Ooh. Plus five, hard. And just the Mickelson meltdown, gentlemen. Needs par on 18. And he does some Mr. Blaylock stuff. a complete Icarito.
Starting point is 00:42:37 He just launches it into the hospitality tent. Then he gambles on a recovery shot, hits it into, I think he hits a tree, makes double, immediately says, I'm such an idiot, which is,
Starting point is 00:42:48 you know, very relatable, personally. So it's just, floating around. It's just with all the context of all the runner-ups, and that's the one, when you think about like,
Starting point is 00:42:57 so I know you mentioned Marion earlier, but when people are like, Mickelson runner-ups in U.S. Open, like, what do you think of? I think of him hitting it off the hospitality. tent for sure is the first thing that comes to mind because it was on 18 and because it was like very clear like dude just make a like a quality par at the last you're a world-class golfer
Starting point is 00:43:15 that's but even then just make the bogey from where you drove it and you play in a playoff the next day and you do not need to be a hero right here like you were gonna yeah and you throw in that Monty also double boge 18 from the fairway uh so sick basically lose it as well which is just crushing stuff because he's had some u.s open misses over the past before this like 15 years and then Ogilvy you know he makes a clutch up and down late and uh i just kind of you know that maybe not like the most exciting winner but like i don't really care because the u.s open for me is always known as like yeah like fucking lucas glover won it you know and michael campbell it's like the part of the u.s open is like sometimes just some random dude wins
Starting point is 00:43:58 and that's totally fine with me if if they win it at like plus five which is what oglevy did at wingfoot So 2006, God, I'm in a sophomore year of high school, and I remember watching this. So very impactful time to be watching this in my adolescence. Give me wing foot. Give me Mickelson Meltdown Nation. Okay, a couple things. One, Jim Furik also bogeied 18 to miss the playoff. He missed like a five-foot par put.
Starting point is 00:44:29 What could have been with that playoff? You know what I mean? Right. So that's a big what if there. And then two, of course, this was Mickelson going for the third leg of the tiger slam. I mean, had he parted the 18th hole, he holds the PGA, the Masters and the U.S. Open and is going to the British Open for a chance to, you know, match the Tiger Slam. It was unbelievable. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:54 This is really like egregious Ford fit days too, right? Cotton shirts. Yeah. Should have been. Yeah. Five. God, that's so, yeah, it's such a, I don't know, such a moment in just Mickelson, like, his whole career arc. A lot of it hinges here.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Like, yeah, because, Brandi, I didn't think about that. Like, that's, he kind of changes his whole tenure potentially and puts them in, you know, wins the grants or all, all four majors. Okay. Next one, guys, I don't think, you know, this is also a little bit of a reach, but I freaking love this one because of all the, just this stuff going on. Dustin Johnson.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Oh, man, I got to go back to my board. That was next on my board. Listen, DJ finally gets it done after what happened at Whistling Strait's with the waste bunker fiasco, non-waste bunker fiasco. Kind of blew up at Pebble Beach when Graham McDowell won when he kind of was
Starting point is 00:45:54 bursted on the scene. I think that was 2010. I would say fully, fully blew up. I don't know if anyone's ever blown up. Yeah, fully blew up. But I think. he was still kind of unknown at that point to like a casual at least to me i remember 2010 i'm in
Starting point is 00:46:07 college i'm like who the hell is this stud muffin you know like i've never heard of this guy like he's he's he's a killer he'll hear you honey he's why he's she like 81 in the final round at least i think 82 maybe yeah he looked unstoppable for the first three days so anyway that's all all context uh but then god the us ga this is just like peak usGA i don't i don't say can't figure out what like when to tell him yeah they just mid round they're like he might be penalized for a ball that like he may have moved on the fifth green uh and and and the even the broadcast like oh my god okay well something to monitor let's uh this a moment ago you know let's go to commercial is like the second year of the fox deal right so even fox is like trying to keep up
Starting point is 00:46:55 it's maybe peak golf twitter like players i remember rory had either either already finished or missed the cut And he's he's tweeting about what a shitty job the USGA is doing like this all the other players are shot Ricky's chiving in from the top row. You know he wasn't in the mix, right? And it's just it's a lot of Ricky. I remember Ricky came out when it was safe. Yeah, after other players that already started being really mean, Ricky's like, okay, now I'm coming out. Yeah, fuck these guys. Yeah, I mean, it's happened on the fifth hole. I think they tell him about it on like, was it 10? It was like they waited like four four or five holes that you didn't tell. it was later. Wouldn't it like mid back nine? Well, because a lot of the back nine was like, dude, I don't know what a score is. It was like 10 or 11. They tell him.
Starting point is 00:47:40 And he's, you know, DJ's like, oh, okay. Like, oh, okay. So he plays the whole back night, doesn't know his real score. And he plays the greatest. And then, yes, T.C. So the best part is just spawns a bit that he see like just a classic T.C. bit of like the best hole of golf ever played. What was it the, the 18th?
Starting point is 00:48:00 18th. He just hits a perfect drive, perfect approach, and two putts for par to win. He was the greatest player of all time because of over that sample size. Like nobody's ever played at a higher level than Dustin Johnson did out and that one hole. And then they give them the retroactive one stroke penalty. So it ends up, there ends up being a penalty, which is just outrageous. And then they changed the rule. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:25 And then there's all rules. Yeah. It's like, okay, we got to overhaul this. And then the trophy ceremony, it's like, I don't know. Are we, you know, inebriated? I don't know. You know, there's just a lot going on. Oh, is that that year?
Starting point is 00:48:35 Yes. That was that year. Yes. Among other years. A lot, a lot of chaos that day. And, yeah, and I thought, you know, Oakmont just cementing itself as like, you know, big, big test of golf as, you know, as it's done every time the open goes there. So I will take 2016 with my, with my snake pick. It was going to be the one I was going to take.
Starting point is 00:48:59 I mean, it's just there's so much, there's so much good stuff. And John Rom and Scotty Schaffler playing as amateurs is fun. Andrew Landry. Lowry's meltdown too. Lowry's meltdown. I mean, it's just, it's. And I'll just, you know, for the judges, I just put, I'm just curating just the entertainment value of the U.S. Open. I really like what I've got cooking right here, uh, as far as just great, great finishes for various reasons.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Yeah. You've got good venues too, Neil. Pinehurst, Oakmont. I'm not as big of a fan of winged foot. But it's a big boy golf course. It is, you know, U.S. open venue. Wingfoot, you can't take that away. It might not be your U.S. open venue, T.C., but it belongs in that Rota.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Randy should have done Tory, Aaron Hills, Chambers, you know, just collected everybody's most polarizing. Aaron Hills. Congressional. All right. My pick. You've kind of backfooted. me here a little bit, Neil. So I'm going to, I'm going to simp, but not in the way that you think. I know what you're doing. I'm going to simp in my way. I'm going to cook my flavors. I'm going to
Starting point is 00:50:11 dance with the one that brought me. Yep. Which is 2015 at Chambers Bay, Jordan Spee. God. Winning when your guy, Dustin Johnson, Neil, three puts on the last hole, maybe the most famous three put in the history of golf. Got about that DJ. The greens. The greens are insane. Mr. Player. How are you this morning? Billy Horshill doing the snake thing on the greens. Every player is upset and who's left standing at the end of it is our beautiful boy, winning his second major in a row. The Grand Slam is alive for little baby Jordan Speep.
Starting point is 00:50:44 I mean, it was like you had all the Fox stuff. You got a Holly Saunders on the broadcast. I mean, it's just like just chaos, man. Stuff. And suit. Remember that plane went down to. Yeah, the plane goes down. There's smoke in the background.
Starting point is 00:50:59 There was the, uh, the marshal telling the train to stop. The quiet, please with the train. That's an iconic picture. Right. Grace of the trade tracks. You got Louis Huss Hayes and putting with his eyes closed, making bombs on the, on the Sunday. You got Rory with a true, like, maybe the biggest, like, if, if Rory can go out in 27, maybe he's got a chance type of run that he may. I mean, I'll be.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Exactly. I don't think we knew how good we had it. Was this the Jason Day Vertigo thing, too? No, that was. Yes. I think it was. I remember him by nine in the midst. No, it was not Aaron Hills. It was, I think it was Chambers. It was on the ninth hole. Ninth hole of part three, right? Yeah. Yes. You had that. You did that for a while. I think he did that a couple of times. Adam Scott making a run. I mean, it's just a, it's just good. It's just good stuff, man. fits my collection up nicely. When I, when I'm on when it's all said and done and I'm looking back at these US opens, like, you know what one was really fun that was that chambers bay. One of the first US opens I ever got to go to. second one I think I went to the USG anybody from the USGA listener this like you guys are you guys are assholes big oh no I just truly am like I don't know what I said I can't be held responsible for whatever I said but I'm pretty sure I knew how good how good we had I had a I had a thrilling week I loved true what if our guy P was the 36 whole leader tied with Jordan yeah which you know then he shot 76 in the in the third round
Starting point is 00:52:29 Unlucky. Cam Smith, big tone, Uncle Yost. Yost is deliberate. That DJ three putt, I still, every time I watch that replay that second shot in there. And when it comes to rest, you're like, you three putted it from there? I know. From there? It was on cauliflower. It was when you had, God, you had Tiger top that three wood into that was right.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Like peak tiger's back problems and yippie tiger stuff when he topped that three wood into the, into the fairway bunker that was supposed to be out of play. got beat by Cole Hammer. There's some good amateurs in that one. Brian Campbell, your boy, T.C. Bo Hossler, Bryson DeShambo.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Matt Neesmith, obviously went on to become a tour player. Jake Knapp, Sam Horsfield. Riley Davis, Davis, Riley. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:53:19 it's just, God, an even fuller selection than I realize. I think that's really good value in round three. This is like owning like the Woodstock soundtrack soundtrack. Just so much happened there.
Starting point is 00:53:32 That's what I'm saying, Randy. It's going to get better. Yeah. Like, I don't think we appreciated it in the moment. Yeah. But, man, Chambers, like, I have such a soft spot for that place. I wish they would go back there and give it another shot. The greens are awesome now.
Starting point is 00:53:48 It's a tough spectator experience out there. Tough place to watch golf, but it's such a good TV product. Which is where I think Sully's make the tour championship more of a, you know, the match style like mono and mono. Make it at a, two at an event at a location like that. It would be great. Yeah, Randy, the Woodstock comp is good. I think I picked this one for Jimmy Hendricks, but you start opening it in that thing up.
Starting point is 00:54:12 It's like, look at what was going on and, you know, in the, in the 3 p.m. slot. There's a lot of other heady stuff going on before the national anthem. The guitar's on fire. There's a lot of other other good shit. Woodstock 99, you know? Yeah, that's true, too. Lord Johns are overflowing. It's getting it's getting weird out there. Yeah. All right. That's good. You guys made me feel better about that one than I felt. Yeah. The trigger. No, you've like we're going off the same list. I feel like Dage. You've been just snatching a couple of them from me. I'm going to play a defensive pick on D.C. I'm going to keep it historic here. I'm going to go out to another iconic, iconic venue. I'm going in 1982. Sure.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Hebel Beach. A great man, Tom Watson, Mr. Watson, definitely great man status. enters the final round with the lead, tied with Bill Rogers. Jack Nicholas, bogeys the first hole, then he peels off birdies on three, four, five, six, and seven. You know what we call that? That's the T.C. There's five birdies in a row in the final round of the U.S. Open. That was to run down Mr. Watson.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Watson, of course, famously chips in on 17 from a hairy lie after his caddy said, get it close. And he replied, hell, get it close. Hell, I'm going to sink it and did exactly that. It goes on a birdie 18 as well for an exclamation point to win it by two. We're going to win the Open Championship just a few weeks later. I believe, how many majors for Watson? Eight majors?
Starting point is 00:55:47 Eight, right? I think that sounds right. I think that's right. you know, staring down the great man, Mr. Nicholas. You know, Nicholas won there in 72, was trying to hunt him down to win for a second time there. Watson pulling off that shot. Correct.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Wind, absolutely whipping out there. This before our time, but this was, you know, the names involved in this one. That's kind of what I'm going for showdowns here in mind. And Watson versus Nicholas, Palmer versus Nicholas. I feel very good about those in rounds two and three. it's great great pick Randy
Starting point is 00:56:23 uh okay solly what are your courses you have while he's well he's thinking tory oakmont pebble okay it's kind of like you're you're building the the rhoda there Tori hurts it does but it was a great scene
Starting point is 00:56:40 great leaderboard we we've got to take a barrel fire on the pod that Sunday or Monday oh you're like tory pretty damn good tournament. All right, we're going to do another tournament that went to a playoff at plus seven. The massacre at Wingfoot?
Starting point is 00:57:01 This is 1955 at the Olympic Club in San Francisco. The great man Jack Fleck. The great man, Jack Fleck, a Navy veteran, participated in D-Day, was, Mr. Hogan was his hero, so much so that, He had gone to Texas earlier that year, picked up some golf clubs, had actually had two wedges, hand delivered by Ben Hogan at the start of the week of the U.S. Open to complete a set. I found this tidbit unreal. Fleck played more than, quote, more than 150 holes on the four practice days.
Starting point is 00:57:39 That's over 36 holes a day each of the practice days. I just need a hundred hole hike. That's unbelievable. He goes into the final day. He's out of contention. Nobody thinks he's going to win so much so that the aforementioned Mr. Hogan had posted early before Fleck finished and was offering to give his golf ball to the USGA. I believe the television commenters had already given Ben Hogan the win.
Starting point is 00:58:11 But then Fleck, Bertie's 15 and then Birdie's 18 to force a playoff. whereby, excuse me, I think the voice is Sunday morning. This was the other thing. I believe Sunday morning, not, or excuse me, Saturday morning, this would have been before the final day of regulation play. Fleck heard quote of voice that told him he was going to win. That's cool. And he ended up making a playoff. And then he bested his hero, Ben Hogan, in the playoff the next day.
Starting point is 00:58:44 He shot 69 to Hogan, 72, wins by three. It's just an incredible kind of underdog story. Of course, Francis Wemette is the ultimate underdog story. But I feel like Jack Fleck is right up there in terms of just unlikely winners of the U.S. Open. The disrespect that has to come with one, you put Hogan out earlier just for TV window and like, all right, Fleck, we're going to throw you in the back. He was one shot behind.
Starting point is 00:59:12 It sounds like when they awarded, like, Hogan, the title, like on TV. Like, all right, television windows. all right, Hogan won, here you go. And no one thought he could possibly make a birdie coming into time and send it to a playoff. Dege, I also find it funny when we did the Pete Dye deep dive. I think Pete Dye played golf with Hogan and was all worried about at Seminole. And he's like, shit, I better have his clubs with me. Because he had, so Pete Dye took lessons from Tommy Armour.
Starting point is 00:59:44 And so he played Tommy Armour Clubs. And then he got invited to play with Pete or with Ben Hogan at Seminole. And he's like, oh, my God, he's going to be so mad that I'm not playing Ben Hogan clubs. So then he went into the golf shop at Seminole bought a new set of irons of Ben Hogan irons, took him behind the golf shop and dinged them up so that they didn't look like they were brand new. Just an all time, all time stuff. Everybody's just scared of. Oh, no, I love your stuff, Mr. Hogan. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:12 It's a great pick, Randall. And a fascinating guy. I remember we did a little mini dive on him a few years ago, just like unlikely winners pod or something like that. Just an interesting guy from Iowa ran some golf courses up there and just, yeah, I mean, the total, total surprise and kind of set the tone for what would happen in Olympic club. I think that happened with like the Lee Jansen win. It was always like all these big names are in the mix and then the absolute curveball always tends to win out at Olympic club. Randy's got 1960 Cherry Hills 1950 Mary and 1955
Starting point is 01:00:46 Olympic club He's going for the boomer vote Yeah He's more boomer Wow We need some old judges Some scare tactics He's got
Starting point is 01:00:54 Penn Burns collection I feel like coming back around Randy's gonna be looking looking hard at 1901 at myopia Willie Anderson wins at 331 PTIA PTI off the charts
Starting point is 01:01:08 TC A lot of directions we could go here. We could go 1911 to Chicago Golf Club. John McDermott wins his first. Everybody was crushed after the death of Willie Anderson who won four. Sure. There was a playoff. What a story, John McDermott.
Starting point is 01:01:25 I was going to say, still the youngest U.S. Open champion there in 1911. Sad story. Yeah. Sad story. Gosh, what else could we do? We could do, yeah, I mean, 48, Hogan Sneed de Merritt. That was a good one. We could do the monster.
Starting point is 01:01:40 You're just going to bounce around and nuke a bunch of them? Yeah, kind of. We could do 91. Give us your pick. You're getting ticed here if you don't make a pick. Okay. We're going to do 1994. This was the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:01:54 How is this not a TC first rounder? Because it fell to me. I got two great ones and it fell to me. I played the board perfectly. Ells wins at Oakmont 94. Just get to the main event. Joey Ferrari is out there playing the practice. round my uncle juice was on was on the was on the 405 there it is uh you know aces driving you got the
Starting point is 01:02:19 NBA fine the Knicks are in the NBA final you know we're kind of just a wild wild place and time right it was when oakmont was oakmont you know big big time ballpark um Tom Watson was the first round leader shot 68 he had Watson L's Irwin Nicholas Nobolo, Strange, Crenshaw, all on the first page of the leaderboard after round one. Monty takes the second round lead at minus six. And then you've got a Steve Pate sighting on there, the volcano. The actual volcano. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:00 And then Ernie, Ernie shoots 66 in the third round, take a two-shot lead over Frank Nobalo, going into Sunday. and then it's a three-way playoff. Ernie shoots 73. He bogey's 18. Lauren Roberts bogey's 18. Monty Pars 18. And we've got a three-hole playoff. In the playoff,
Starting point is 01:03:24 L's is four over after two holes in the playoff. He plays the last 16 holes in one under par. To win or to finish with, with Roberts and then they had another they had a sudden death playoff after that on the back nine and Ells, Els goes four four, Roberts goes four five and else prevails. Should we be looking at Monty show up in all black?
Starting point is 01:03:54 That's right. 95 degrees. Exactly. Randy, should we be looking at a Mr. L's? I'm not thinking congressional. I mean an international star,
Starting point is 01:04:06 a toe to toe, a tiger for his whole career. I don't think that's for that'll be for generations past us. It's not for us to decide. I don't think that's one for us to decide. Four majors. I don't know. This was the last one televised by ABC.
Starting point is 01:04:26 You know, and then NBC started started the following year. I don't know, just a very, very specific place in time, I think. Yeah, but mostly the OJ Chase. Yeah, but mostly the OJ Chase. Well, before you do get your next day, next pick here, TC, I have an exciting update for you guys. I know you guys been waiting for this and asking. I'm back to stacking, guys. Back to 132 days off, according to my app.
Starting point is 01:04:53 I got after it yesterday. We did a baseline test. I had some wrist issues. You know, I was a little afraid to get back into it. We are back. The wrist has been plenty healthy. And now we are back into stack training. I'm looking to combine some physical fitness with some golf improvement like I always am.
Starting point is 01:05:08 I've felt I've felt my best over the last couple of years when I'm regularly doing stack workouts. It's got a 15-minute stretching routine, gets you a good sweat going, gets the heart rate up. I'd like to do it in the mornings. It makes me feel more energetic throughout the rest of the day. I just have a better day after I've got a stack workout in. And I've been through the program before, and I've seen the incredible results. I went from swinging at 117 miles an hour with driver to 127 in 2024 when I was doing this religiously. So I feel like I am starting a bit back over at the bottom here, but it's a lot easier.
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Starting point is 01:06:39 It's the one downside to the claw, and I need a recipe to get that back. I was going to say, you want to look at the power of the stack? Look at the 2022, you know, as we're looking at these past champions. Matt Fitzpatrick, right? He's a testament to this as well.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Yeah. At Brookline, one of my courses. That's right. My draft. Is that where you're going next? No, it's not. He's going with Dubb at 20. 23 open up some grape tc come on do it let that shit air out decanted
Starting point is 01:07:08 he'ller went over mic donald in 91 just make a pick just just a lot a pick's all wronged for 12 at a limpid birdman web simpson lost that bo hostler was out there and john peterson no we're gonna go let's go 1971 Nicholas Trevino at Marion God I thought I'd get this one
Starting point is 01:07:31 This test is flummoxing Solly He's trying to Just an iconic one I don't think I think I'm smoking You guys Of course you do
Starting point is 01:07:40 You know Trevino Like big year for him He was named Sportsman of the year By Sports Illustrated This is the one Where he threw
Starting point is 01:07:48 The snake In front of Jack That was great Many people were saying that he did that to mess with Jack. I think Jack actually asked him to do it. I think they were messing around.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Guess who is the first round leader, Sali? First round leader, 1971, the Great Man Sevy. LeBron. LeBron Harris, Jr. Lanny Watkins, an amateur, T2. You got Jack, T5 after round one, Gabe Brewer, John Schley. the great man John Schley, Weisskopf, Cootie, the Jim Colbert report.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Jim Colbert was actually, Jim Colbert was actually the 36-hole leader. Palmer got involved, George Archer, Bobby Nichols. Third round, amateur Jim Simons is leading at minus three. Jack is two back and Trevino is four back heading into the final round. and and you know, Trevino just shoots a, shoots a final round 69, goes 69, 69 on the weekend. Jack goes 68, 71. They go to a playoff.
Starting point is 01:09:04 And I don't have a lot of details on the playoff. I know Bob Rossburg missed out on a chance for the playoff, but this was the first playoff at the U.S. Open since 1966. And I know Trevino, like the old story, Trevino had been doing this photo shoot, I guess, earlier in the week. So he had all this crazy shit in his bag. So that was, that was where the snake came from. I was wondering about that. I didn't know the backstory there. Yeah, he bogeed the first hole. Nicholas doubled three. And then they both played pretty well after that. A lot of birdie's
Starting point is 01:09:38 flying around after that. But Nicholas cut in the lead several times, but Trevino just like he, he kind of got out to that early lead and never relinquished it. So I think after after the third hole, he was, he was pretty much in control and finished minus two jack finished plus one and uh they a lot of bonus coverage as well uh ABC like they were only going to cover like you know an hour of it and they ended up having a little weather delay and they just basically had like they were they were able to to televise this for the last 12 holes unexpectedly so yeah good stuff trevino I'm a huge Trevino guy obviously I had him in my PGA championship collection at Tanglewood, of course, that many people from North Carolina reached out to tell me just how shitty that place is.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Big strong people. So I'm honored with that. But, you know, I've got Marion, I've got Oakmont, I've got Brookline, and I've got Shinnecock. I don't think anybody's doing better than that as far as venues go. And yeah, we got characters, too. We got Trevino. Oh, we got. We got OJ.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Regrettably great pick. Bad draft, a great, great fourth round pick, T.C. Bad draft. All right. We're putting the Bowdenhammer on solid. We're testing the 15th club today. Exactly. Randy, I feel like there's, man, I feel like there's an obvious one for you here.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Really? Yeah. Well, it might be what I, I'm a little torn, you know. You're going to stay with your theme? Yeah. Yeah. You keep the boomers happy. Was it Randy or Neil that totally bottled it during the Masters one?
Starting point is 01:11:25 Oh, Neil did. It was me. That was right. Danny Willett. All this is great bad. He took Danny Willett. Randy is going with 2011 at Congressional. A big part of me would love to take that 1895 first U.S. Open, you know.
Starting point is 01:11:43 You know I love first. T.C. called it the 1911, John McDermott. there's a lot going on there I'll just I don't know if anybody's going to take it you know 2013 I think might have actually been Mickelson's low-key best look a great man we're gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna take what I think and what I fear
Starting point is 01:12:06 maybe the last of its kind and we'll go to 2007 Oakmont on hell Cabrera good one he wins at five over par I think this was the last great difficult test that the USGA put on. This was when, you know, Par meant nothing. We were trying to make it as brutal as possible. Anhelle Cabrera would become the first South American, the first Argentinian to win the U.S. open.
Starting point is 01:12:37 He went off, I think, like four or five groups ahead of the final group, which was Tiger and Aaron Badele. Badelele blew up on the launch paddade. which is always fun. You don't see many final rounds. It's good to be bad. You don't see many just complete blowups out of that final group anymore. Jason Gore,
Starting point is 01:13:00 you're at Pinehurst. Michael Campbell. Let's go get it. We gotta go get three more. Oh, a good run of them there. On hell. Fast was involved.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Yeah, on hell was one of two players to break par on Sunday. The other being Anthony Kim shot a, round of the day 67. Anheel was bawling out and then bogeed 16, bogeed 17, felt like he needed to make par on the difficult 18th. He did so, and then he was waiting in the clubhouse. We were seeing if Tiger could make a birdie. Tiger bogeed the 11th to get to six over and then just could not find a birdie.
Starting point is 01:13:43 He pared in to remain at six over. Furek looked like he had a great. look. He had birdied 13, 14, and 15 to tie Cabrera, but then bogeed 17 and could not get it done on 18. So this was kind of one of those U.S. opens that is just stereotypically U.S. Open forever in my mind. I enjoyed the sheer brutality of this one. So I'm happy to add this to the collection. and I know Anhell would go on to have some not great things, but man, I loved my guy on hell there for a few years in the late 2000. No one in the aught.
Starting point is 01:14:24 No one released it like on hell, you know? You know, he's just chain smoking cigarettes up the fairway at Oakmont. Pretty iconic. That was great. I forgot. Randy, any concerns that just or that Paul Casey shot a second around 66? Is that kind of mar your whole narrative? Yeah, I mean, listen, there was, we had some guys under par after round one, but, but we got the course to where we needed the course to be, T.C. And I think that's what the USGA has stopped doing. We've stopped pushing. It used to be part psychological, part physical, part, you know, whatever else, spiritual. And I feel like we've taken out the psychological examination lately. I forget, I always forget Bubbo was in kind of in the.
Starting point is 01:15:12 mix at that one yeah he finished t five that was the it was only the second major he ever played and he like he was notoriously shitty at the u.s open for the rest of his career after that as good as he was at the masters i mean he was like he was awful at u.s opens uh outside of that one kind of random appearance at oakmont uh interesting pick big hemes was in the mix and then he shot 76 on on sunday Got blown out to see my girl dies. My girl dies ex-husband Nick Doherty was in the mix. Sure.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Jerry Kelly. All right. Moving us along here. You want to keep reading some more names? Yeah. Just saying names though. Holen prize. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Guys naming dudes. Stuart Allen. We don't think of him anymore. I'm between two here. I'm between two and I can't wait to see which one of you take. Okay. I'm going to take. And this is where I'm drafting from my board.
Starting point is 01:16:12 because I think one of our judges will not like this. Which again, you're the only one that knows who the judges are. That's going to be a cool thing. I would encourage the other judges to take that into account. I'm calling a penalty on myself on this is what I'm doing here. I'm going to take the 2024 U.S. Open at Pinders. Wow. That was a great U.S. Open.
Starting point is 01:16:34 For sure. It was on my list. For sure. Rory Bogies, three of the last four holes to miss out by one. Bryson gets up and down. from the bunker, you know, it, yeah, it was just, it was, it tells, you know, it's part of the buildup that leads to the 2025 masters and now the 2026 masters as well. The heartbreak for Rory was just, it was like one of the tournaments I've watched in my lifetime that was the most
Starting point is 01:17:01 sweat inducing, panic inducing watching it, like the most heartbreak probably I've felt watching a single, you know, somebody blow it in some way and the final result of like, like watching Bryson be the every man and and be the people the one that everyone was cheering for. After all he's done over the years and all that Rory had done for golf over recent years was like especially painful. Like and that's part of what U.S. opens aren't beautiful at all times. They could be very painful and that one was really hurt and stung a lot. But it was a great, great golf tournament with some memories we're going to have for a long, long time. And that one wins out just barely over.
Starting point is 01:17:42 the other one that I could have taken. I add a couple things there, Sally. Not only, like, a lot of these heartbreaks at the U.S. open are just guys coming up short or collapsing like Mickelson. It's not often it's like the villain slash dildo is the guy that it falls to. So you know what I'm saying? Like, it's like, it, that was like, whoa, like a complete 180, you know? What the fuck, man?
Starting point is 01:18:04 Like, that, that sucks. But, I mean, Bryson is electric. And so it created its electricity of like, such a, the emotions just went to the other end of the spectrum. And he played great golf. And they were great, they both hit great golf shots. And the second thing I'll say, I don't think I'll ever be haunted by a miss putt more than the slow mo of Rory missing on 18. The way like middles the ball with the putter.
Starting point is 01:18:29 I still think he does that where he's like, like putter kind of the bottom edge of his putter. Kind of hits on the equator a little bit. Yes. And I, it's like nails on a chalkboard when you see it. Um, anyway, those I, I, great pick is what I'm saying. Thank you. Thank you. It makes me feel better. It's a great pick. I, there's no chance I was going to have it. I don't want that shit on my, in my house. I don't want my kids. I don't want my, I don't want it around kids. Even if this damages me in the, the eyes of the judges, like I, I feel amazing about my collection. It does hurt my, my, my champion. It's a record of history. It's like that statue up in, uh, at Dornick, Dege. We got to, you know, it's right. Of the highlands, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:09 You got can't lay involved, Sali. You got Rory peeling out of the parking lot, too. I've heard something about that. Yeah, there was a bit of a narrative shift. You know, it's part of both Bryson and Rory's story. It's a feature. It's a fulcrum of both of their, will be of their careers for sure.
Starting point is 01:19:26 I weirdly will remember he wasn't in the mix, but I remember Scotty being completely flummoxed. And during a stretch where he just looked completely invincible, that was the one that he could not even come close to figuring out, which is yeah it's weird historically significant it's like but getting one of charles manson's records or something sally it's historically significant i just i don't want to listen to it sets it for rory brison in the final pairing at augusta for 2025 like that's at so um i think there's a good argument this this will be the apex of bryson's career and probably the
Starting point is 01:20:01 the what is it the opposite of that the deer the nadeer of rory's career which is not nothing that's fun oh man you got me in a pretzel now sally guys real quick real quick i just want to note that there's only one spaniard ever to win the u.s open and it wasn't in Sevy. So I just, I would like to take a moment to honor Sevy here. So they already had Torrey Pines in his, uh, yeah, in his collection. Yeah. Johnny Rombo won, one in, uh, in, uh, what was 21, 2021. And that was in honor of Sevy. I think Sevy's name should be on the, on the winners list right there next to him. Uh, okay, I'm, I'm 50, 50, between two of them here. one is impressive for a sheer feat of physicality and one is impressive for just a culmination
Starting point is 01:20:58 among the greatest things ever done you know what as i'm saying it out loud i have to go with my gut i think it pairs it's a nice echo to 2000 uh which is already in my my soon to be award winning collection uh i will go with the 1930 u s open mr bob jones completing the fucking grand am at interlocking. I think that's a no-brainer, kind of insulting that it fell to the final round. Yeah. I mean, the guy, like, if you saw what scrubs you pull up off the street to judge this thing. If anybody knows anything about golf, I got a big 2000 US over at Pebble, 1973, Johnny Miller, 2015 with the great man, Jordan Speed, and then Bobby Jones winning the grand slam. That's pretty good, man. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:47 It's all I got. If that doesn't get it done. I'll sleep well tonight. If that doesn't get it done, I don't know what to do. But you know, I heard you guys talking a lot about interlocking the U.S. Women's Open is going back there in a couple of years. I'm looking forward to that place I just straight up don't know that much about, man. It's, uh, I obviously didn't watch much of the 1930 U.S. Open.
Starting point is 01:22:04 So it's a bit of a, that's a bit of a blind spot for me. Kind of only read about it, but it's, it's, the paywall window. But yeah, it's, it's. You know, I don't know. You don't need to say too much more about it. Bobby Jones wins a grand slam. And it's one of the most impressive things to ever happen in golf. Only guy under par.
Starting point is 01:22:27 How about that? Which I know I know really tickles Randy. He also beat a guy named Whiffy Cock. Who, according to his, he was, he was T3 after the first round. Just from Wikipedia here, Wiffy was born and grew up in a tough at Irish Italian section of Brooklyn. He started in golf as a caddy at Westchester County courses and learned to play at sunrise
Starting point is 01:22:52 and sunset with clubs borrowed from the pro shop. The diminutive Cox had a hot temper and a reputation for foul-mouth trash talk amongst his fellow players. One nine times on tour, T.C. Sacramento Open? I don't need to tell you about that. Yeah. So, I mean, I think that makes 1930 even more impressive. Final round 75 to win big.
Starting point is 01:23:14 I mean, that's good stuff. Get it done. Only man on your car, like you said. And you know what his winners check was, Randy? Zero dollars. Nothing. Played for the love of the game. My man, I just, I think that's a walkoff for me.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Well, I believe this was a U.S. Open walkoff for Mr. Jones. Last one. I do believe he did never compete it again. So what else, you know, no more world's nothing left to prove. That's right. Oh, man. All right. So final pick here.
Starting point is 01:23:44 God, you, you know, I, I was, I was worried I was going to have to, I was going to take Andy North, never seen him hit a golf shot. It's one, two of them. He won two. And he's the only, he never won any other PJ tour events. There's only two wins on tour are US opens. There's a meatball hanging out there for you, Neil. And TC also, 1985 at Oakland Hills with Annie North was the two chip, T.C. Chen.
Starting point is 01:24:07 So he made a quadruple bogey eight on the fifth hole after a double, a bizarre double chip, which helped Andy North win it. But I'm not. I'm going to simp my face off here. Wow. To the people's country club. Oh, yuck. I don't want a Beth Page. And I think this is one I have vivid memories of.
Starting point is 01:24:27 Tiger wins it minus three. First time it was held at Beth Page, the first true public municipal course to host the U.S. Open. And they beat us up with this with the, you can change your shoes in the parking lot commercials, all that jazz. It's 2002, guys. I loved all of it. Okay, I'm in sixth grade. I'm deep in Atlanta junior golf. I'm tailing T.C. around the golf course.
Starting point is 01:24:52 He's telling me to scram. I couldn't get enough of this because it was Tiger and Sergio in that final group. Sergio fades, but couldn't pull the trigger. I'd pull the trigger. It was epic. And the people are beating. Count it. God, people are yelling at him on every hole.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Tigers ignoring him. Tiger's like looking, like staying on the T-box, like looking a different direction whenever Sergio is addressing the golf ball. So I have some personal memories of watching this Tiger win in 2002. It was the second U.S. Open and kind of like kicked off that first, or that I guess the tail end of his real dominance, that first time around, and then comes back around and later on in the late 2000. So 2002, Tiger, Beth Page, you know, not my favorite place,
Starting point is 01:25:42 but I think it's an iconic golf course for what they do to you what they do you um they they canceled my tea time with a frost delay and they treated me like garbage TC that's what they did uh hate it
Starting point is 01:25:55 yeah uh so I got some unfinished business out there I did think about I did think about Southern Hills and where where Stuce Sink uh four putted and that's where you know he had unfinished business didn't make the playoff with Mark Brooks and Reteef Gussen
Starting point is 01:26:10 that was good um that was a a good US open but I'm gonna go with 2002 I'm gonna I'm gonna get tiger in the portfolio and I feel really good about it we're picking that up at the very very end yeah can't get fired for hire to IV that's right that's right the kinky people made that yeah the guy under Paul these judges aren't gonna hear this they're just gonna see always got tiger on the list okay so that's great that's that's I Agar I feel solo solo third so insulted nobody took
Starting point is 01:26:36 1964 the the great man Ken Venturi almost died out there during the 36th old final. Randy, I thought that's where you were going. You're building this collection of just like the world's toughest test. The guy almost died out there, man. Doctors following him around. He wanted to your bar. How tough could it really do?
Starting point is 01:26:54 They put him on tea and salt tablets and told him to get back out there. All right. So our final recap, Neil with the first pick, he ended up with 1999 Payne Stewart at Pinehurst, 2006, Jeff Ogilvy at Wingfoot, 2016. DJ at Oakmont and 2002, the cat at Bethpage. Neil's got three Mickelson runner-ups in there. I do.
Starting point is 01:27:19 I'd love to come over sometime when I'm hurting and just listen to your collection. Come on, man. DJ has 2000 pebble, Tiger Woods, 1973, Oakmont, Johnny Miller, 2015 Chambers Bay, Jordan Speeth, and 1930 interlocking Bobby Jones Grand Slam. Don't hate that list at all. I've got 2008 Torrey Pines, Tiger Woods, 1962, Oakmont, Jack Nicholas, ever heard of him, 1982, Pebble, Tom Watson, and 2024, Pinehurst, Price, and Deschambo. Randy, 1960. Which of those golfers is not like the other.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Cherokee Hills, Arnold Palmer, 1950, Marion, Ben Hogan, 1955, Olympic Club, Jack Fleck, 2007, Oakmont, Anhell Cabrera. Danny willed at the end. Fottled it. That's a, no, that's a great U.S. Open. The ball knowers know
Starting point is 01:28:16 that's a great U.S. Open. It is. All of yours. Overpar's winning scores. Unfortunately, I think the first one is not. Arnie got it in under par.
Starting point is 01:28:27 It couldn't stop making birdies. I know. It was. Yeah. T.C. had 1913, the country club, Francis,
Starting point is 01:28:34 we met. 2004, Chenecock Hills, Ritif Gooson, 194, Oakmont, O. James Simpson and 1971,
Starting point is 01:28:42 Marion Lee Trevino for his picks. It was literally the greatest game ever played. Just remember that. That's going to do it for our draft. Let's get to the judges. I said there's going to be three. One of them let us down. It happens.
Starting point is 01:28:56 There's tight turnaround, tight recording between Tuesday and Thursday. So we have two judges. We're going to get right to it. These are going to be a surprise for you guys. You guys don't know who's coming next. I'm going to get to our first. I think the second one will be a little bit bigger surprise, but let's get right to it. Shane Ryan, Golf Digest.
Starting point is 01:29:13 All right, gentlemen, thank you very much for having me. I want you to know up top that in 2020, I did a post for Golf Digest, ranking the 15 best U.S. Opens with the help of a USGA historian show, not only a topic near to my heart, but I think you chose well. This was my draft order. So I know I have to be kind of quick about this. I could speak for 10 minutes. Great listen, great show. First thing I've got to say is I could not be more disappointed in real. As I'm looking at the picks here. Neil, I'm a huge fan, though. He's a man of unbelievable charisma and intelligence, and I know he appreciates history. I know that. I've seen it. He's a great
Starting point is 01:29:49 man for history. So why when I look at these picks, do they reflect the worldview of somebody for whom Earth began in like 1999? Just incredibly disappointing. There was golf before 99, Neil. Pinehurst off the top was, it was a reach. Randy was completely right, and he had Neil scrambling, just with a word. I mean, just masterful stuff by Randy. Neil was trying to defend himself. He didn't really have the weaponry for it.
Starting point is 01:30:13 You know, he called Payne Stewart an alpha when in fact DJ said, no, he's an outcast, DJ's right. And then he said that it wouldn't come around. His justification for picking it is it wouldn't come around.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Well, if you're an NBA GM with the number one overall pick, the 15th pick isn't going to come around either. That doesn't mean you should take him number one. So, you know, that is pretty rough, I thought. And then when it came to winged foot with Ogilvy and DJ at Oakmont for his second.
Starting point is 01:30:37 in third picks. It was just like Neil WBJ. So Neil is in fifth place for me. I love Neil, but tough scene. We go to TC next. I thought his first pick was great. You know, Francis we met 1913. I liked 2004. I didn't really rate that one when I did my post, but I've come to appreciate a lot as a chaotic and very funny US Open. So good second pick. But I think like other people, spoiler alert, he fell into the Oakmont Graveyard with his third pick. I don't think 94 really rates. I don't even think 1971 rates. People were nice to him about it. That's not a top 15th pick for me.
Starting point is 01:31:11 So he's fourth. DJ is third. Pevel's not the best Tiger U.S. Open. It's a great one. It feels weird to gainsay it in any way, but Solly was right. You can call him a simp all you want. Saul was right. Tori Pines is better. So that was a slight misstab. Not a huge one. I thought he did really good to get Oakmont and Johnny Miller on the way back.
Starting point is 01:31:31 2015 Chambers Bay, really creative one. I thought kind of adding a modern one to his. to his list there. And then he finishes with Bobby Jones in 1930. Granted, that was the Grand Slam year. I think 1929 at Wingfoot where he made a big put to make a playoff. And he was going to retire if he didn't win that year. I think that was kind of more monumental and a little bit better.
Starting point is 01:31:50 Anyway, good draft for DJ. Then it comes down to the duel, Solly and Randy for number one. Tremendously exciting. I thought, Sallie nailed it with Torrey Pines and Tiger. That was number two on my personal list. But, you know, I get it, go with a modern one. Randy comes with number one of my list, Cherry Hill. So all of a sudden we got, oh boy, this is the clash of the Titans.
Starting point is 01:32:09 It comes around. Randy gets Marion and Hogan, an unbelievable one. Solly strikes back with Jack winning at Oakmont. Everybody pissed off because he beat Palmer, the local guy. Fantastic. DJ and Neil do their thing, the less said the better. Comes back to Sally 82 Pebble. Now he's got Pebble on his list.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Tom Watson. Randy comes back with 55, a real obscure one with Fleck. I mean, fantastic stuff. And then it comes, you know, so it's going to come down to the fourth. He's going to hate my on. Because they have six of the top ten of my list in their first three rounds. So, final pick.
Starting point is 01:32:42 Randy, 2007, Oakmont. That's just not it. I mean, that is, you know, he had, and he sounded uncertain doing it. You should hear it in his voice. He didn't believe in it. And he stumbled. At the very, very end, he stumbled. Solly, it was his chance to win.
Starting point is 01:32:56 And, you know, again, this wasn't on my list, the one Sully picked, but only because I wrote before it. He just kind of did what he had to do. He had a safe shot. 2004, a great one. Rory's collapse, Bryson winning. What a draft for Sali. What a draft for Randy. Randy's number two. Sali is a clear number one.
Starting point is 01:33:13 I sense that this will be an unpopular pick. I think he dominates these things, but greatness is greatness. He did it again. So, yeah, he's the winner for me. I'm crestfallen. First of all, it was Marion, not Oakmont for 71. It wasn't an Oakmont one. It was Trevino and Nicholas, two of the greatest of all time, squaring off in a
Starting point is 01:33:32 playoff at Marion and then 94 he didn't even mention OJ that's true which was kind of the that was your race like that was your race my OJ hat on that was your race that was your race you were running I don't think you made that pick expecting judges to oh Ernie L's it was a playoff was you know went an extra hole after that it was great how about him talking about Neil not being a man of history that him shitting all over me for picking the wrong Bobby Jones well get out of here Shane we talking about Wow. Electric,
Starting point is 01:34:03 electric monologue, though, from him. I was saying. Simping pays off again. Yeah. Congratulations, Sally. Neil could not be with us here tonight for the reaction, unfortunately. Again, we're down to the second judge. This man needs no introduction.
Starting point is 01:34:19 You'll recognize the voice as soon as we get to it. But our second and final judge here. Jesus Christ, you guys. A snake graph? This is about the top 20. US opens in the last 125 US opens. It started with Neil, DJ, Solly, with the third pick, Randy, TC with the fifth pick, and then TC, Randy, Sally, DJ, Neil, right? I got that right. All right. So the top five
Starting point is 01:34:54 US opens for all time, 1913, 1960. Those are interchangeable. 1950, I don't think there's any debate that's the top three. 2000. I don't think there's any debate that that's in the top four. In 2008, I don't think there's any debate that's top five. So in the first five picks, if you don't get those, you're choking. Neil, you had the first pick and you chose 1999? God, I feel so vindicated.
Starting point is 01:35:25 That's like one of the greatest U.S. Open Shook chokes of all time. 99, solid pick. Okay, good pick. sentimental tear-jurker, absolutely. But not one of the best five U.S. Opens of all time. DJ, solid. You got it. $2,000.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Sali, 2008, you got it, check. Randy, 1960, good job. T.C., 1913, good job. Now, you had the sixth pick, the way I understand it. And you could have chosen, let's see, you could have chosen 1950 that's what you could have chosen
Starting point is 01:36:08 and you chose 2004 he chose rathieth goosein over Ben Hogan coming back from a trash tank you failed me there at TC so if I go through this all the way through and I look at what you could have picked first five second five third five
Starting point is 01:36:26 fifth five sally you win here's your pick 2008, although questionable, we could have done better. But okay, solid. You chose 2008, 1962, 1982, 2024. As far as I can tell, you had two great picks, two questionable picks. Randy, you chose 1960, 1950, 1955, and 2007.
Starting point is 01:36:57 Two very good picks, 95, of all. the picks you could make, Jack Fleck. It's a great one. I would think Brandon would love that. No, sorry. But you did get second. DJ. You chose 2000.
Starting point is 01:37:12 1973, that's a... Of all the picks you could have made, good, but not great. 2015, you chose 2015, DJ. That may have been one of the worst U.S. opens ever. Changes in a face, really? 1930.
Starting point is 01:37:28 So I'm putting you in third. T.C. You chose 1913, 2004, 1974, 1971, 1913. Great pick. 2004. Again. Really? 1994.
Starting point is 01:37:45 Really? 19701. Okay. Pretty good. Neil, I don't know. Were you on a gummy when you made your picks? You had the very first pick. And you took 1899.
Starting point is 01:37:57 Now, nobody's going to question that 1999 was good. Open. But of the all the US opens you chose you could choose you chose that one. Then you chose 2006 again of all the US opens you could have chosen to chose that 2016 I mean 2006 was Phil's follies 2016 was DJ's follies the USGA follies and then you chose 2002 I didn't even think about that one I realized it was Betpage and it was Tiger and it was Phil but from a compelling standpoint top do you think that's the top 20 of all time
Starting point is 01:38:34 so I got sally winning good job Randy second DJ third TC fourth and Neil you gotta get off those gummies when you're making these pegs there you go fellas that consensus
Starting point is 01:38:50 there all the way through by both judges huh that's hard to it's hard to argue with very very aligned thank you that's Brayle if you couldn't quite tell who that was So guys, I'm shocked. I really didn't. I thought, I thought DJ was going to get higher marks than he did. I loved my team.
Starting point is 01:39:06 I thought I was going to be runner up, but pleasant surprise to walk away with the second major. Now I'm just regretting that I won't be able to complete the grand slam. I think US Open there's a lot of randomness. You get a lot of fluky winners. Best player doesn't always get rewarded. And I can't help but think maybe that's what happened to me this week. DJ, I stand with you on 2016. I think that was a.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Chambers. Neil, oh, 2050. Yeah, yeah. I was thinking about that last night. Like, if I could do anything differently,
Starting point is 01:39:35 what would I have done? I would have maybe subbed in 2015 for 94. But otherwise, like, I was rock solid. I love my kids. I, listen,
Starting point is 01:39:45 a little taste of almost getting it done for me. That's exciting. I think I'm just finishing a major here, Randy? I believe it is. Wiki yellow. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 01:39:56 in homage to my guy, Phil. and all his many runner-ups. I think I'm more happy, though, about Neil being put in a body bag than I would have been even winning. Yeah. So that makes me feel good.
Starting point is 01:40:09 Great judges, Sally. Good, good stuff. Yeah. I did what I could. Let us know in the comments here on the YouTube channel here, but how you would rank it out. And we can, it won't count for anything,
Starting point is 01:40:19 but the eye test. People's, people's choice among the listeners. I feel like the 80s and 90s aren't getting any love from these judges. They're kind of stuck in a little bit of a dark age. It's either like go for history and go for the true nostalgia play or go for the spectacular, you know, tiger simping or recency stuff as well.
Starting point is 01:40:43 Yeah. So just, I agree. We got to bring them the life, T.C. I had an 80, I had an 82 one in there and I managed to win the title. So it checks out a little bit, but not quite. All right. Thank you, everyone for tuning in. We'll see you next week for US Open Week.
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