No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1171: Canada, Cauley, and Curtis Cup

Episode Date: June 15, 2026

Bud Cauley wins his first PGA Tour event in his 239th start to claim the Canadian Open. We recap all the action from Toronto plus the future of the event and other news from elsewhere in the PGA Tour ecosystem. We also cover Joel Beall’s reporting on Phil Mickelson, the latest on LIV’s attempts to secure future funding, the Curtis Cup at Bel-Air and a few other notes headed into the US Open. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro and Canadian Open Recap 53:00 - PGA Tour News 1:09:30 - Mickelson Article and LIV News 1:26:00 - Curtis Cup + other notes Support our Sponsors: Titleist Holderness & Bourne Loch Lomond Whiskies If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Nest⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠nolayingup.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club today. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Lange up podcast presented, as always by our friends at tidalist.

Solly here joined by my guy. Mr. TC. Hello, T.C. Greetings, Sally. Big, big weekend of sports. And it kind of rolls on tonight, too, as we're recording. We are recording this as the, back nine is beginning here of the Curtis Cup we got the World Cup going on here you are out

your son's out playing sports this week lot going on DJ Pi as well Stanley Cup playoffs that's right NBA lot lot going on DJ pie is here as well hello DJ hey guys uh I feel at tc with the world cup it might be a weekend of sport you know more more than sports just an absolute weekend chalk full of sport you sound like all the brits that are that are rolled through uh you know everyone saw that German guy that it was whose account was going nuts and like now a lot of a lot of people are doing the same World Cup thing in a lot of places but a lot of people look like going to have it a great time with it. It's been a great, it's been a fun vibe. I'm so in on the World Cup. That's not what we're going to talk about tonight. We are going to talk about the RBC

Canadian Open, but Collie's triumph there. We had Zach Fisher. He won on the corn fairy tour. Gina Kim and Yanna Wilson won the Dow. And as we mentioned, it is looking like the U.S. is going to win the Curtis Cup as we get going here. We got a bunch of news and notes on the PJ tour. Of course, of course. We've got some live golf news. We'll talk about the Curtis Cup a little bit. The guys here, Dejan and T.C.

got a chance to see the new renovation at Medina 3 ahead of this year's President's Cup. We're going to talk a little bit about that. A little bit of checking on the rosters. First time I'd done that. Looks great. Everything looks great. And a tiny bit of U.S. open stuff on the back end.

But of course, as mentioned, Bud Collie, your winner. in Canada taking down the field in Toronto with his all-titlest setup, Bud's setup starts with his ProV-1X golf ball that makes it nine wins in the last nine weeks for tidalist golf ball players on the PGA tour, but is also among the over 65 players on the PGA tour who have already made the switch to new GTS drivers. He's playing an eight-degree GTS2 model. That's back-to-back wins on the PGA tour for GTS after the postman won last week. Eight degrees.

Yeah, I know. Wow. That was not expecting that. From there, Bud moves to his GTS3 wood. He's got a blended iron set with a U505 utility, a T-254 iron in 620 MB blades. He's got four Voki SM 11 wedges, 3 F grinds, and a K-star grind.

And his 60-degree was rolling the rock with the Scotty Cameron, Golo 7 Tour prototype putter. Head to Titles.com to find a fitting near you. You're going to want to test this GTS driver. The guys I played with on Friday are, are like literally asking me questions of how to book one uh because they saw me hit it for the first time in person i'm a complete sir sir how do i do i mean driver like that they've seen me had

the left misses before and they know it they see it's gone uh and they're they're doing it so get get to tideless dot com find a fitting near you t's allie sally similar similar circumstance at the pontovieter and club on friday uh it was they were like wait you're like you're like you're hitting it different than you did last year like i got a new driver i don't think that's that's the only thing but that's certainly helping it might be the only thing for me i didn't change anything else except for the driver and i'm a solved man so dj take us to canada what happened there the rbc canadian open guys i think the story of the week midway through was ben james making his pro debut races out to the 36 whole lead 67 63 start for the young

pro he was he was unfortunately canceled by a third round a third round 78 uh It won't be his first time in contention. I'm sure. I was just scrolling to see where he finished. And I was like, I got pretty far down the board. And I was like, oh, I must have missed his name. I got to scroll back up. I typed it in.

Oh, T-54s. Oh, man. Dej, I think you mean it will not be his last time in contention. What did I say it won't be his first time? Yeah. It was his first time. It will not be his last time. Thank you, T.C.

The flag was picked up by Jackson's super, fresh off a three-shot win at his U.S. Open sectional qualifier in Maryland. I should have, that's always a good one to, always a good one to tip, right? I mean, look who's playing well at US sectionals and just ride the hot hand. He took it one shot. You want to just get ahead of this? I don't know what the fuck the detective means.

You've been saying it all day on Slack. I feel like I'm in on 99% of your jokes. I have no idea what you're talking about. If I don't know, TC, I feel like maybe the audience probably doesn't know. Funky and I always talk about it. In your private messages, it would be somehow the, you were expecting the audience. I know. We've been all over.

the everything app with it too we just keep firing back and forth the the uh the little emoji icon for a detective like a little inspector gadget guy uh i was playing golf we were playing with spencer levine and i was like hey like you got any nicknames for anybody out there on coming up on tour he's like i like this i like this super kid he's just always asking you questions he's like a detective i call him the detective that's all it is god i wish i would have known that it would it enriched my golf You have not tweeted the word detective since a true detective season three reference in 2017. I don't call it's not detective. It's just the emoji. Sorry. Go to my replies. Come on be better. Zolley. Uh, anyways, the detective, uh, takes a one shot lead into the final round.

Uh, came out, birdied the first continuing this loved this. Uh, he had birdied every part five for the week through that first hole. There's only two, you know, only two part fives on the golf course, but he'd birdied them all. Birded the first one today, but got caught in the early going by Jimmy Stanger, who birdied his first four holes of the day, was absolutely filling it up. We're going to talk more about him, probably in a little bit. Maybe when we go down the leaderboard, the tight race until Bud Call, your eventual champion to hit the gas after the turn. He made birdie on 11, made a very unlikely birdie on 12, drove it way left into some knee high kind of hay that was just out there in random spots. very pro hay on the golf course, wedged it out and then chipped in from 93 feet. Nance called it the shot of his life. It turned out to be prescient.

Kind of slam the door. Also made birdies on 13. He did survive the rink TC, which we will talk about. We'll get there. Bertie's 15. Give himself plenty of cushion. More and more notable shot, I think we have to talk about. He blew it a mile and a half right on 16 and banged it off of a moving golf cart,

which seemed to keep the ball out of the ball out of the ball. the woods kick it back into the kind of light rough actually kind of sitting up from there and he just made it easy par uh you know what it's your day it's your day so uh bud collie slams the door gets his first win on the pj tour in his 239th start uh love this this graphic was all over the place there's only four people on tour active players that have made more starts uh with zero wins patrick rogers has 330 starts mark hubbard has 277 bow has has 245 and Sam Ryder has 240. And I guess maybe I'll frame the conversation through that lens,

which is for me, you know, every one of these podcasts is kind of, this is our perspective on the situation. My perspective is, man, Bud Collie, I met that guy for the first time when he was like a sophomore in college and he was just getting ready to light the world on fire. And it's just, it's wild that now these people have gone through such career arcs. that I'm like, man, the other guys in that list, Patrick Rogers, Bo Hossler, like I remember watching him in college,

watching him famously at the NCAAs. It's just, it's kind of funny to see, you know, we're getting to almost like the end of the careers for these, these first wave guys that I feel like we really kind of came up with. And that made today all the more fulfilling for me. You know, I think Bud Collie, like you've seen the ride that he's been on. All of this kind of comes in the shadow of this 2018 car accident that totally upended his career led to this broken leg, collapsed lung, all these problems with his ribs.

He ended up missing like four years of his golfing prime and then comes back and pays it all off today. And I think it could be, you know, it could be a very saccharine story. But it's instead, I mean, it's, it's just context and depth and a, yeah, a reminder of like how good he was. He came back and then had complications. Like that's kind of the part I honestly kind of forgot or, you know, I knew he took a ton of time off, but I kind of forgot he came back and had like serious complications and took the three-year hiatus. That was the part that, you know, we had a lot of guys try to keep track of, and it doesn't all stay top of mind. But you sent over that PJ tour, mindful documentary they did on him. And it was like, it's, it's really well done. It's, you know,

just, you know, you've, you watched that. You know, I got, well, I feel a lot more towards Bud Collier than I did before I watched it, which I know is exactly the purpose. But I would recommend people check that out to see kind of the details of how he's, his life has changed completely as a result of that accident, some for the positive. And obviously the tremendous challenges that has given to his golf game. But man, it makes, it makes today seem that much more unlikely. And you do, we've always said it, T.C., you never count that guy out. And if it finally comes to fruition, he's finally a PJ tour winner and his 239th start.

And I think he's done it without like a loud, overwhelming trait. Yeah. Right? He's just like, he's just a really good golfer. He's just a golfer, man. Yeah. totally I felt the same way watching some of those shots that shot he hit into 13 today is just like just a long iron that he's taken with the slope and just feeding it in there perfectly there were a couple of those I'm like man that was just a golf right shot it wasn't my time yeah it's it's it's really cool I got I got a ton of juice out of out of watching him close the door today it's it's one thing to be he's he's plenty long like he's around tour average length but you know he doesn't he's not a big dude he's not he's definitely not a bomber to come up be a you know you know he's a you know he's not a know, be a solid tour pro and then like just lose, you don't play golf essentially for like four

years, come back. The tour is going a different direction with distance and speed and everything. And you like the talent level that has come up is all faster, faster, faster. And you still like, how I always feel when I'm playing really well, I'm like, if I take a week off, I'm like, it's all gone. Everything I've ever done is gone. All my talent's gone. Like I got to, I'm starting from scratch when I tee it back up. I cannot imagine taking that much time off and coming back and competing at the absolute highest level, like you said, T.C. without having like overwhelming traits or an overwhelming skill. It's just a straight getting the ball in the hole quietly most weeks without being noticed until it's finally your time to pounds and you do it,

man. It's it's awesome. I'm really, really happy for the guy. Great stuff in that that kind of mini documentary that you've chatted out on the PJ Tour's YouTube channel too that went like you said. So the accident was at the memorial in 2018. He had come back by that fall. to play the, I think it was Napa or something like that later in October. So, I mean, he got over the initial injuries fairly quickly, but that required putting in all these plates and pins and, you know, all these different things to kind of rebuild after the injury. And what ended up happening was kind of like a,

the surgical scar ripping open and fluid leaking. And they had to go in and take the plates out. And he has, you know, I don't mean to, you know, take this from the dock, but it's, you should go watch it. But he's talking, I did not realize any of this. When he goes back into like what he was actually facing was they're trying, they couldn't get the plates out. And they were talking.

They're like, well, the next step would be like taking out the ribs so that we can take out the plates. And he's like very, he's very funny guy. And he's like, well, that's like, didn't, didn't really think that would, you know, boated well for the golf swing was like having no rib cage. It's just just really tough. And it's, it's, yeah, I don't know, all this stuff can wash together when it's a new story every week. And everybody's got adversity and everybody's got, can you believe this guy did this? But yeah, man, it's a real saga and a real journey.

And it's kind of, it's kind of one of those that makes it worthwhile to watch golf for 10 years, you know, see the arc of these guys. Because when he came out of college, man, I mean, it was, I think there was the stat was he's like the fourth guy, I think to go straight from college to the PJ tour. And the names are like Justin Leonard, Tiger Woods and Ryan Moore, who's one of the best amateurs ever. I mean, he was supposed to be the guy. And he was playing really good golf even, you know, before the injury. he didn't really break through, but it was, yeah, it's just a wild ride that culminates in a day like this. So it's always, always fun to see somebody get their first win, especially when there's all that kind of baggage associated with it. Yeah.

We'll say, he could have, you know, could have hit a little farther there on 18 into that green, maybe a couple of revolutions away from making the only mistake you possibly could have at that point. I mean, almost like Kyle Stanley there. Which shout out to, shout out to the tour and listen, we can get into the. the golf course and and all of that, I thought the setup was better this year. They can't do anything about it being soaked other than change the date of the tournament, but they shaved down a bunch of stuff around the greens, including on 18. And there was a lot more consequence for a non-well-struck iron shot into some of those greens. Now, some of them, there's just nothing they can do.

And they've got the copy paste bunkers and all that still. But it was, I think it did. yield a little bit more suspense on certain holes. What was it? Yellow Marajus approach into 18 was slowly coming back and it was coming down the slope and I was like, I was pre-mad. I was like, he's going to get crowned here. There's no way.

That ball's going to get stopped. And it went all the way in the water. I was like, oh, shit. Yeah. They're doing it. Look, they doing it. DC's guy, Dub, Dub got crowned there.

He looked like he was going to come back in the water and ended up staying up. For Dub. You know, another step along the path of laundering his image back. And he did the whole, the whole jersey thing with the, I was in on the, on the Jack Hughes thing. I thought that was great. That he paid for it, man.

He was getting booed the rest of the week. Like he was legitimately getting booed over the tea. You would have been, I know you're, Freddie had a golf tournament there towards the end, but you were getting, you would have been chuffed, man.

The Canadians were going hard at wind him cheering when his ball went in the bunker. I mean, it was like, it was interesting. Kind of the enemy of my enemy is, this is my friend. exactly yeah proud people up there in canada exactly right exactly right gosh i'm gonna give i want to give credit i want to give credit to this somebody said this over uh and i hadn't

just the phrasing here was really good but um i'll see if i could find it but it was something along the lines of uh we got to talk about how well how well windham has played since he hard launched the new girlfriend at the masters uh that that line got me really good the hard hard launch line but there wind him is playing some fucking good golf and guys the u s opens this coming week and he's won one of those. I'm just calling attention to that one. There was a tweet floating around today, like the Japanese team after the last World Cup

cleaned up their locker room and like it was totally spotless. And, you know, like people were tagging Wyndham Clark in that post, which I thought was it. Was it you? No, it wasn't. They were taking me and. Just a detective emoji. Solly, did you see the detective emojis?

Yeah, you did it one time for something. No, I've done it a bunch. I tried. I found one. The easiest way to find T.C.'s perjure. Just a bunch of detective emojis. Windham is playing awesome golf, man. He's going to win third.

He's playing good golf on bad courses. He's playing very good golf, T.C. I mean, Beerfield Village is a good golf course. Yeah, I mean, the CJ Cup. A third. Yeah, sure. Is that worse than not winning? You know, I mean, we still won.

We can get into Tommy because I'm glad Tommy didn't win this week. See, you have tweeted the emoji at Bunky two times once on June 13th and once today. So this week only shocked that I wasn't up on this. Yes. I believe I wasn't up. Hundreds of detective emojis going back and forth. Oh, I every coast is on the board, huge. You're so distracted, Sully.

Tim Curtis Cuff and World Cup. And trying to find your damn detective emojis. But do you want to explain, you want to talk about Tommy? Not really. I don't think we need to talk about him until, until, you know,

until he's first or second round leader and wins at Chinatcock. I think T-11, 67, 65, 67, 70, you know, solid week. Game looks good. I think we're in good shape. Even part of the day. Didn't want to win it. Didn't,

Mission accomplished. Plasbair. Wyndham Clark has played, play a good golf on bad golf courses. Tommy's got it right where he fucking was interesting, interesting one. I think I got I kind of pulled one out on you guys. Oh, this is amazing. With the data golf, the data golf points by age thing is, is basically a straight line with Tommy Fleetwood and Sam Burns. You were coming hard at Sam Burns and it was kind of a enough is enough T.

Stay up to Tron week. You can't up to Tron. I just, I don't feel anything for Sam Burns, but I was like, I just, I don't know. We can't just keep flinging these in one direction, T.C. I think there's, we just have the amount of time. I don't feel like anybody flings anything at Sam Burns. That's the point. Tommy, Tommy cops all this shit from so many people.

And Sam Burns is allegedly this top 10 golfer in the world. And whenever it's a big moment, he just, you know, he just received. Same thing in team events too. Tommy's a big dick player in team events. That's true. Tommy has been better in team events. I will get you that. That's big of you.

Sam Burns is an excellent. I feel like it's the opposite. I feel like Sam Burns gets like chided and dismissed almost completely, mostly because of the bad team events stuff. And people seem to not like the guy for whatever reason. But the one dude that like kind of breaks the mold a little bit, he's just like an unbelievable putter. And that's different from a lot of the other.

bomb like the bomb and gouch guys he's an unbelievable putter until he has to make puts and then he becomes just a really mediocre putter that that do i doubt the stats support that at all but he's like the best yeah still like the best putter in the world and he's just quietly been playing really really solid golf for a strong period of time so i was ready to yeah i pick my battles and let tc get one in on sandbirds when dj got in i'm like ah fuck yeah let's go let's go i'm just setting up the you know i feel like we we did this at hoylake we've done this at a couple spots where it's like this is tommy's waterloo this is it this is the one guys well yeah i mean he missed the cut we just didn't have it this week but fucking fuck sam burns that's what should people should be

talking about we i mean we do have shinnock and then we have burkdale after shinnock as well so that's got and then sally's got a sally's got a calendar alert set i already saw it to follow with me after this too. Listen, to be clear, it goes without saying, I hope he wins both of them, T.C. Would be great. It would be a blast. It would be perfect because you're not allowed to pick him for either one. It's going to be amazing.

Well, yeah, I've already picked him for both of them for the last like two and a half years. Yeah, this is what you're not allowed to. It's great. It's absolutely perfect if he wins both of them. Seems super likely. You go to leaderboard? I was just going to ask the same exact thing. You'd never ask.

Really quiet. solo second from FITS? Yeah. Low key. And this is super important, as we know. Moops to number one, the FedEx Cup with that runner-up finish. Snook ahead of Scotty Sheffler. I think the Fitz Brothers might be number one in the Fedora 5.

I thought about doing one tonight. I think we're going to do multiple Fedora Fives this week, but not one tonight. Out of respect for the World Cup. Yeah. And just, I don't think the Canadian. And the Knicks. the right the right venue to do it on uh vick hovland playing playing some decent golf interesting he hadn't played since uh the pga just took a took a month off maybe got right ball struck his face off i think

best ball striking round of the year today which is thrilling you know what that means you know what that means deed time to change some shit for for vick it's time to go that feels that feels used need a new one going I mean going from the softest golf course on the planet to maybe one of the firmest, crispiest golf courses on the planet. That's a factor. Jimmy Stanger, do we want to talk about his conundrum he has coming up? Yeah, first of all, good week for him, kind of up against it. I saw this from Ryan French, Monday Q Info was saying, I think he's got two starts left on a major medical. I think he was an elbow.

He had two starts left. This was one left now. This was one of them, yeah. and needed a X, Y, Z finish, ended up bogey and tough bogey there at the end. He was another guy that hit it in the water on 18 and then hit his wedge over the back into the back bunker, just a tough, tough finish to bogey 18. And essentially finished one shot out of what he needed to do. I think he's 22 points short.

So the conundrum, as brought to light by Ryan French, was he did qualify for the U.S. Open, which will be his next start. That obviously will count as his next start as it comes to major medical. So I think Ryan said he's got to finish top 40 at that event, which I think just brings to light like, you know, it's a real event.

Like you've got to go do it in a real event. It's not like, oh, thank God I can go finish, you know, T-29 at the Isco or the Barakuta or something where nobody's watching. Keep the Isco out of your mouth. It's a bad, you know, it is. have to admit it is an opposite field of it. It is not a strong field. But yeah, that's an interesting,

you know, a little game within the game for next, next week. Can he finish top 40? Some people are suggesting that he should withdraw from the U.S. Open and just play the John Deere. Ryan also mentioned that. I don't think we can't be about that, man. If that's, if that's the case.

We would shame him into oblivion. I think we got to just admit this guy's probably not good enough to play professional golf if that's the if that's the if that's the to play pj tour golf if that's the case like we can't we can't be having that mentality man you got to go do it he would need he would need 34th or better at the john dear compared to the 40th or better at the u.s open which that makes sallie's heart is is fluttering on those those data-driven margin right there it is very much like a i don't know what the analogy would be there but it's what do you want to do here what do you want to get out of this career do you want to just survive out here or do you want to

go compete against the best players in the world uh yeah i think you're uh sally's sally's gonna actually allow him to compete in the u.s open if he makes the cut it's always going to say that we've simulated it 10,000 times and that is the equivalent of finishing correct 30 it's a hypothetical that's what i would use that for a sponsor's exemption for sure i would use that math i should be playing in this tournament. But I was so brave and had to go and play the U.S. Open. What else we should be? Yeah, otherwise, let's see here.

Sorry, we got sidetracked there. We're done all sorts of wormholes. Bryce Garnett moves from 139th to 110th in the FedEx Cup. Do with that what you will. T4 for him. Jasper Spenson and the detective all at T4. Pock eater. He was trying to hunt up an eagle on 18 to try to post something there.

Didn't get it in, but T8 for him. He's playing some decent golf of late. I think some of that might be course related as well. Foxy, Solly, what do you have to say? Absolutely stuffed it in my face. It'll be a new plaque for him, I think, this week for this for this T8 finish. The 12th hole, he hold out. He held out on 12.

It'll be a new plaque for that one. I think, which, yeah, it was reported this week that he has a plaque there, the 18th Fairway, which I think was, you guys are out of this? It's like player logos, man. We've gone really far down the board. We might have too much plaque inflation here. What's a plaque that you really like? I mean, Ben Hogan. That one's pretty good.

I think it's good. So it's like John Rom one at Mycoba. That one's sick. I know. How do you feel about the one at Aaron Hills? The JT. Threewood on 18. Have you seen that? Yeah, that's great. I mean, that's a memorable shot. Everyone's going to want to go and reenact that exact shot. As I say that, you probably do want to go try the, try the Fox shot. But certainly got a better chance to pull that one off. Well, but the JT one, though, is like, you're not going to believe where he hit it on the green from. Like you got to go stand here and look at this. And it's not, it's not ostentatious either. There's no, it's just a shamrock. There's no like here, here, here, here, here, here. Right here. Where were you?

In pink pants, Justin Thomas. Hit this. shot shot 63 at aaron hills uh nicholas has one at baltice roll i think that's kind of that's a good one iron one iron yeah um yeah maybe not ryan fox wins the canadian open but sergio and medina is there a plaque over there was there i don't remember they've changed the hole now so we didn't go over by the tree when we were there uh i definitely was over there last time i think maybe there's just like a little tag on the tree or something the tree was gone when we were there in 19 Like that tree wasn't even there. Yeah.

Just too far down. And I'm just totally making that up then. Okay. I hope I remember that, right? I could be. I mean, seriously, though, we'll talk about, you know, President's Cup points. Foxy continues to play good golf,

plays way on the team after they've left him off the team the last couple times. So he's going to force his way on. Sudarshan, yellow Marajou, the future. He's coming. He's the only Canadian. I want to see on the President's Cup team. Like, I think the, I think the Canadians should just

forfeit the rest of the spots, but put Sudarshan on. Matthew Anderson. Low Canadian this week, too. Yeah. Matthew Anderson, T-11, Canadian guy as well. He was,

he was kind of one of their national open exemptions. Jacob Bridgman, Tommy Fleetwood, and Dub, all finishing T-11 as well. Tom Kim up there, T-15. Billy Horshiel. Game's starting to come into form a little bit. Billy after surgery, after some injuries.

Alex Fitzpatrick, T20. How about doing it? Alex Fitzhitz is 19th in the FedEx Cup. Just keeps doing it. He got on the PJ tour in April. I mean, via a win, I know with his brother, but that's freaking impressive. Guys are mad as hell about it.

Play better, guys. You beat the shit out of you. Just have better brothers. Who will invite you? I do want to shout out Haltong Lee shot 67, 64, 79, 69. There was a little bit of that going around this week. Like, Austin, Eckro, it's 67, 6780, 71. I just, you know, the wind was blowing Saturday.

It definitely was. And I guess bad Hal Tong came out. He was saying he's trying to keep the bad voices out of his head. He had a great interview after, I think it was after round two. You know, bad Halton comes. I just tell that guy, fuck off. I tell him fuck off. That's great.

He's so bad, bad thoughts, keeping him bad thoughts at bay. It was great. I'm not sure the, the President's Cup captains and assistant captains feel like Halton rules, but, uh, yeah, maybe not as a golfer and maybe not as a strategic genius, but I, as a quote and as, as a character. as an entertainer he ruled idea yeah for that reason he should be on the president's cup team for sure absolutely i'd say another guy made a pretty good bid to become to be part of the of the president's cup team i think with this win uh when you look around the standings is oldness and born ambassador bud collie

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I'm assuming that's what's coming with the news when Brian Rollup has a press conference on Travelers Week. We've talked a little about track one, track two system. There's been a lot of reporting about that. What happens to this tournament in particular, which is an interesting one, because it is a National Open sort of-ish. I mean, technically it is, but I don't think it's a TC National Open, which is a whole different track scale.

But tier one, tier two, track one, track two, I have a feeling I know where this one will net out. I don't think it's track one. I could be wrong on that. But what do we think the identity of this tournament becomes under a new PGA tour system? I feel like if it's track one, they're going to have to go away

from their national open identity and all the Canadian sponsor exemptions and such. I don't think they want to do that. So it seems like it's going to be a track two event or tier two event. Perhaps they do something where they don't do this one as like an opposite field or they like they keep this one on a solo week so that the Canadian guys that, you know, are eligible for track for tier one can play it. Ultimately it probably comes down to RBC as well.

and like what rbc wants to do with harboretown and if i doubt they want to sponsor two tier one events i mean that's you know upwards of probably 70 million dollars plus all of your other ancillary costs from staging and hospitality and media and all that stuff so um yeah all that to say like i don't know it seems like the based on where it's been the last few years it seems like they're content to kind of have it be just like a fundraiser for golf Canada in the Toronto area. And I don't think there's a big desire from it gets such a short season up there. I don't think it's a big desire from some of the top clubs in Canada to host this. And just, just the top clubs in Toronto because, you know, they don't want to take it out to Vancouver or

up to Quebec or Montreal or Calgary because it's, you know, like they want to stay close to the money there in Toronto. So I think all things considered, it seems like it's going to be a lot, very similar to what it was this week, maybe with less top stars. Well, it's a hard one because, you know, and it's very much devil is in the details because I know there were some whispers and reporting coming out that if you're eligible for track one events, you can't play track two events. And there guys that were asked about that. And, you know, especially the Canadian guys, Nick Taylor and people like that who are just like, man, that flat out sucks if you get to a point where you have this Canadian Open as a track two event, but I'm a track one player and I can't come back and support

this event is a little bit of a, what are we doing? It leaves the folks at RBC, the folks at Gulf Canada, the folks that kind of everywhere and the folks at the PJ tour left in a very sticky spot where it's like, man, what's more important? Is it having Scotty Schaeffler and Rory McElroy and all these great players coming and playing your event and seemingly drawing more kids and more fans and more everybody and more eyeballs, you know, and attention to it? Or is it having these amateurs, having this, you know, these Canadian guys, this like reliable draw of Canadians to go out and watch? It's just a really, it puts them in a really tough spot, which is kind of a bummer because they've been in a very unintentionally tough

spot seemingly every year for the last five years when some crazy news seems to break every year during their tournament. Well, and then, Sally, you made the joke today. Elvys tweet this week and his whole video today coming out during the final round. That overshattered a lot of the birdies of bogeys today. It's just always something to be, yeah, we can't, we got at least put a little data behind that one. T.

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Both men are undoubtedly flawed geniuses, but only one have been hung, drawn, and quartered by the press. Follow that up with a video today. That is, you have to go watch it, go to his timeline, please, I can't possibly describe it. Shane Ryan, quote, tweeted it saying he starts this video out by saying, quote, I'm better at the spoken word than the written word, end quote. And based on following him here, I thought that had to be true. And yet, he goes into two and a half minutes of some of the most unhinged stuff you will ever hear. And then he just couches it all with like, yeah, like golf should be a global game. That's a truth. Like, dude, I agree with you. Golf should be a global game. It is a global game. It is a global game.

There's a scam-demic line in there. Like, it was, it went places, man. I don't think anybody's brains ever been as melted. Like, I hope he, I hope he dedicates his brain to science. Let's let's them study it after he's gone. Anyways, back to Canadian Open track one, track, too. I was trying to find it. I swore there was something in the handbook about releasing international players

to play their national. and you get automatic release on that. Like there's, I don't, I can't find it. Maybe that's not active. It feels like an easy fix if there's not. Right. Yeah. Right.

That, that, that shouldn't be the hold up. I think we're going to, you know, get to a new world here of, of what PJ TOR looks like and there's going to be some collateral damage, but that doesn't mean you can't change things. And, and, you know, hardline rules are, you know, will make some sense in some places. Like, I don't think you want Scotty skipping the signature event to go play the Byron. To play the Texas Open because that's a question. That's not going to quite work, Scotty, but like something like the Canadian Open, I think would make a lot of sense.

Or like, man, I don't know. I don't think you could, I don't think guys are going to want to skip signature events to play an opposite field track two event. Like that's going to be extremely rare. And if you do, special waivers for that may be possible in unique situations. But I don't think the tour should be stopping guys from going to play track two events. If they're not opposite track one events, as long as you're maintaining. your commitments to the other track one events idea what what about if they if this wasn't a regular season pGA tour event and they made this like the kickoff event to the to the fall and they

want to make the fall you know worldwide right australian open we'll get to that news in a bit um you know BMW pGA let's say the irish open something like that Spanish open um South Africa, Japan, all of those things. Let's say you made the Canadian open. It would still be early to mid-September. You'd still have decent enough weather up there. It would actually be really good course conditions up there. Dry out.

Foliage would be starting. And then you could basically have anybody that wants to play in it, play in it. You can track maybe even a stronger field than you would otherwise. That seems totally sensible. Makes way too much sense. Yeah. I'm down. Sign me up.

I'd vote for that in a heartbeat. Because I was going to say, it is a hard one where it's like, it sucks that you're going to have to draw a line in the sand and start separating all these out into track one, track two, because this is a great one that has, you know, rationale for both sides. You know, I think a track one event with all the biggest stars playing in Canada is a great thing for golf.

For all the reasons that we're saying, I mean, there's going to be a ton of people there. It would be, you know, I'm sure they would find a good golf course. for it if they could. Maybe we'd just get stuck at playing the same place over and over. I don't know, but at the RBC's been a great sponsor of the PJ tour. It just is a, I know, each one is the commercial. Their commercial is bad, sure, but their checkbook seems to be open and working.

So yeah, I don't know. It forces a lot of decisions, which I guess is good and leaves a lot of stuff, you know, not necessarily stuck in the middle, but somebody's going to be mad as hell. And I guess we'll find out who it is. Yeah. I mean, either way, if it's track one, track two, national open, non-national open, fall event, we got to do something about the rink. The rink is so. It's too intimidating.

It's too scary, man. These poor players got to go play with all those rabid fans. Like, stretching out that par three, I think, to what, 124 yards or whatever it was today? It was just, it's just, it's terrifying. We're going to start losing some of these guys to live again. That's what we're about spinning it 35 yards back off the green. There were no no greater difference in short part threes than the 14th hole at TPC Toronto and what we're going to see 11 at shit of cock like that is true opposite ends of the spectrum. There were there were zero double bogies at the ring this week for the whole field over seven goals zero double bogies only 21 bogeys.

for the whole for the whole field all four days they should they should have johnson wagner go play it over and over and over again and like and see like all right how how many times would it take for him to make a bogey or a double even it was it's yeah it played to 113 shots under par like only the par fives obviously played to less shots under par or more shots under par can i can i give you a good one on on Saturday, during round three, there was one bogey. And it was windy. It's such a bad hole. I mean, like, I'm fine with birdies.

I love short par threes. There is nothing aesthetically, strategically, just there's nothing at all interesting in any facet of this hole. And then on top of that, the whole rink thing just feels so contrived. And but you don't get it. Stereotypical. It's because they like hockey up in Canada. Like that's the part you maybe didn't, you didn't quite understand.

And they have a referee there. They need to get who's a TGL. Yeah, who's the TGL ref? Get that guy out there. Who is the guy from Liv? Tony's are pulling. Derek Stafford is the TGO. Yeah.

He's supposed to pull is the lift. T.C. We're talking about this a little bit this week and you were, you were laying some of the, this on me and I just obviously there's been inflation much like the plaques there's just been inflation and overmarketing of these these stretches so I was true I I power ranked them for you I want to try to get my arms around what's the best what's the worst uh so I can think of this is not a stretch though is it is there a stretch at TPC Toronto I think there's like a I mean it's it's it's the

the whole marketing engine of us naming okay yeah yeah club club club three one five or whatever I don't even know. Oh, that was the 313 challenge. I didn't include any challenges. I didn't include any challenges of my power rankings. I could think of nine. Okay. So I'll go nine to one here. You guys tell me how I did. Number nine is not the rink. Number nine is the ranch, which you probably already forgot about. Oh, God. At TBC Craig James. Just wait until he gets to the ranch. All these people are just going to be just fired the fuck up. I just, I don't know. The rink is probably a, worst golf hole and there's far less people around there, but it's, it's less offensive to me than than the ranch, which comes in at the last, the last spot. Ranch water. Number eight is just kind of whatever's going on at Memorial Park right now. And the, and the, you know, because originally I was like, I want to put poppy's pond, but we don't go to Poppy's Pond anymore.

And that made me think about the pool. It doesn't have a name. I'm sure it's going to have a name shortly. And so I'm just getting out ahead and saying, whatever's going on, changing all of this so that we can have the jump at the end stinks. And I just, it's already in the eighth spot second to last. Seven is the rink for the reasons that you, you mentioned zero double bogies for the week. Just.

And like for CBS, like, they're trying to cover the tournament and they just keep having to go back to the rink because like, they're showing guys that are T-39 at the rink. And this kind of at times makes sense at waste management. It doesn't really, like you can't recreate waste management there. I get that's what everyone's trying to do. And it just, that's just, that ain't it. That exactly. But that's the, that's the, you know, themed whole industrial complex that they've created that the Thunderbirds have unleashed out there.

Did you see the video of Toasty, by the way, hucking his potter like 40 feet up in the air after chipping it at the rink? Because he's all, his heart rate's all up. He's all riled up with all the goons behind the glass. You know, it's just, you know, now people are going to get hurt. number six the bear trap is plummeting plummeting down my list with the way that they're setting up they've they've neutered the bear trap they pulled all the teeth out the greens are too soft the trap exactly it's just kind of like it's just like sanctuary yeah they're in captivity number five just feels a little tired tc feels like we need to spruce things up a little bit that's the snake pit

good holes strong strong holes there's teeth it is hard but it's just it feels like it's lost a little a little bit of luster number four rising on my list surprising this one surprised even myself the green mile at quail hollow very stupid uh something i've made a lot of jokes about i've i thought was very very dumb going to the pGA there walking those holes seeing how hard they played when it got windy. I was like, ah, man, 16 is just an impossible golf hole. That, that is, that is six. 17, depending where they put the pin, like, that's real consequence. 18, you got the creek. You could get a weird, like, there's, there's real consequence on, on all of those holes. And I think it's worthy of, of a named, a named stretch. So, you know, okay.

Number four. You have problems with it. Any issues with that? No, just, kind of okay with it. 16, 18 are just kind of pretty, I don't know, 16, 18. I do not think it's a good golf hole. But would you put the bear draft ahead of it? No, no, no. I would put the snake put ahead of it. I'm fine with your ranking. I'm just, you're glazing the green mile a little too much for my liking.

I think it's just long golf holes that are hard in relation to par sometimes. Number three, I don't call it this, but enough people do call it this, the Coliseum, TPC Scottsdale, the thing that kicked all of this off. I think it has to be on this list has to be represented. I didn't even know that had a name. Yeah, I just, I knew that was. kind of rattling around in the back of my head. I had to do some research, but I saw many, many references to, they call it the Coliseum. So I've got to take those people at their word. Two, okay, this one does not have a name, but I've seen so many names bandied about. People have

tried to do for all these other stretches. What, you know, they've tried to do the same thing to this stretch, what they've done for all these other stretches, which is crazy because they're the far, like the best holes on the list so far. 16, 17, 18, 18, a TBC. sawgrass. I have seen it referred to as the gauntlet. I think Dean Beeman tried to get that going like, no, no, what's he going to do with the gauntlet? We should sell some T-shirts with the gauntlet on it.

I saw another. I just think about there among the crowd. You guys hear they're calling this the gauntlet? Yeah, I mean, that's why they called the gauntlet, baby. If they connected it to the intracosal, they call it the marina. You guys, you guys have been at the gauntlet

all day? You guys just out here? Well, he's still got to get through the gauntlet. We'll see. You can use that one. I saw some people refer to as the Bermuda Triangle, which I, which I enjoyed. I have never heard of a human being say that, but I saw that in print somewhere. It is kind of a triangle. Exactly. I know.

I thought that was actually not as stupid as it sounds. And then I found this one. This was a, I think this was from the, gosh, what was it? It was one of the newspapers from like, oh, the Gainesville son from 2012, wrote a whole column about this trying to come up with the name and they called it the bfg which they said stood's for best finish at golf which i had never heard i'd just like to get the the fire accordion thing going and breathe a little bit of life into that maybe we can get the bfg going next we should get a

we should put that on on one of the one of the airplanes you get to the bfg i think it's the big fucking gauntlet is what it is now That's great. Number one, no surprise, Amen Corner. Wait, what about the horrible horseshoe? I forgot. Admittedly forgot about that one, T.C. I knew I was going to forget.

And that would have got us to 10, too. A horrible horseshoe goes in between. That's got to be ahead of the green mile. It's ahead of the green mile. Yeah, yeah. It's number four in between the Coliseum and the Green Mile. Good call. Are we talking Amen Corner at Augusta or A man corner at Golden Ocala?

Do they play as replicas, Sally, both 11, 12, 13? No, it's just 12 and 13 at Golden Cala. So, yeah, that's tough. Just the Amen wall. Only one, only one wall. It's a you turn. It's like a rounded. It's like a rounded edge.

Yeah. Oh, that was stupid, but very fun. T.C. wanted to throw El Chapo's taint as well. The famous club pro guy stretch. I couldn't find enough data on how that would play to really put it on the list. But you could, you slot that in wherever you think. Well, I feel like doing the, doing 18 at Houston, like then you would have to do Devlin's billabong at Torrey Pines. Like, it's not a stretch of holes, right?

Yeah, I just think there's, there's not a lot of marketing going on around the billabong. you know, that's just kind of there. This is like the whole deal is like the whole. We could take it out, certainly. I was just, I was trying to get the list as long as possible. I guess too many others. That was, that was tough to, you know, kind of put your arms all the way around that one and, you know,

between holes and stretches. So you did great there. Thank you. No qualms. No qualms in the rankings, except for it. The fact that the folks at TPC, Craig Rancher, in last behind the rink. like and the one that might not even be on the list yeah yeah take a long look in the mirror down there guys

i might need to go visit the ranch next year just see what just report on it yeah just keep oh shit i didn't i didn't even ah i didn't think of the the watering hole's not on there that would be that'd be way higher than some of these all right we might need to revisit this list i'll put a little more time into it if you got any more submissions of things i missed hit hit me up i was racked my brain's where where's the watering hole why don't i forget about it uh adela Of course. Monumental. Didn't, uh, what did the, uh, what they have in South Africa?

Didn't they have another one? The rhino jive. Well, the rhino jive was, was going. People were doing the rhino jive at this hole. I can't remember what it was called. Well, take that offline. I'll, I'll search for it while you're. Yeah.

Well, why don't I? Yeah. Speaking of watering and, and, you know, the lion's den. The lion's dead. Yeah. See, this is where I'm like, dude, I know there's more out there because it seems like there's, there's one of these every. It keeps spawning new ones.

Yeah, they keep, uh, they start putting down some of these revolutions. I mean, technically the road hole is a, it's a little marketing thing. Yeah, but then I think if, yeah, there's, I don't think they're, it is. But I don't know if they're necessarily like, that's not like, they have to be named like for the environment.

Like, yeah, it's like a fan thing or it's either a stretch of golf or like a fan. It's not a fan. It's not a fan, bro. It's not. Offa. It's funny you mention the, the road hole there, T.C. It is time to mention our friends at Locke Lomond Whiskey's,

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uh and a venue that he uh has won i don't know how precautionary this was of hey there's rain delays today and i don't need to hurt myself anymore or i can get one extra day of treatment here if i if i wd today there weren't rain delays day but there was weather and he just didn't want to battle it today don't know other than i'm sure he'll be playing this week uh but a unfortunate story heading into uh if he if he's not hurt he did a really good job of it didn't look comfortable it did not look comfortable yeah and it's i mean stinks man 64 in the first round 68 in the second round like he's he's playing he's playing good golf he showed up at the masters it's uh i don't know i would love to see what he brings to that golf course

so i hope he gets right in the next couple days amen to that a couple of things here on the golf side here, at least in this part of the world, before we get to the live golf related stuff. Doug Ferguson had an excellent article on the Associated Press. It's just titled, The U.S. Open is getting away from its roots with a shrinking number of qualifiers. He goes on to detail. Honestly, you know, I kind of knew this was going on in the background, but highlighting the numbers from how much, how many more, how many less qualifying spots are now available in the U.S. Open due to extra exemptions. The U.S.GA has kind of slowly peeled off.

Over the years, only 62 spots were available this year in final qualifying 10 years ago. That number was 80. Just kind of slowly trimming that down. You know, they've given one away to a top live player who's not exempt. They give an extra set of guys. We'll get one after this week. Top 60 OWGR rank and, you know, NCAA champion. All kinds of just exemptions have slowly filtered through here.

I'm curious your guys' reaction at TC. especially on kind of the better fields, but a little less open, still very open. So a lot of spots. But I'm curious your reaction. I mean, I know, you know, I know DJ and Randy stand with me when they think that the entire field, minus the defending champion should have to have to qualify every year. Everybody should have to go to final qualifying. But no, I think it's, it was dipping down into the 40s.

It seems like there's still enough spots up for. grabs um you definitely want it to stay the most democratic of all the the you know major championships but i think you know 60 out of 155 still feels like it's in the ballpark and not over half the field as well and i think they're they're probably doing a better job of making it feel internationally represented as well so um all in i'm i'm I'm fine with it, but don't dip any lower. Yeah, it's not, it's not the sexiest answer because it was a good, a good piece. And I'm glad Doug wrote it and it was interesting to look at the numbers, but I'm like,

every, every exemption he rattled off. We're like, well, now they're giving one to this guy. I'm like, well, yeah, that kind of makes sense. Oh, they're given one. I didn't even know. Oh, they're given one of the top corn fairy tour guy. Like, yeah, that's sweet. You know, maybe gets hot and breaks through.

Like that's, they're giving one in the NCAA champion. That seems great. You know, it's, it's a lot of almost stacking the deck on the different stories. of guys who you kind of want to get through qualifying anyways. And I know that's less plumbers and firemen and, oh my God, this guy's story is so unbelievable. But it seems like in the, and I don't know, pro golf's just, it's changed a ton since this championship started.

And I feel like they've done a decent job of preserving those pathways so that you do still get, you know, what is it? We have the first player from Iceland in this year. And we have, you know, it's just kind of, There's still enough kind of random fun stories to talk about in the first couple days. Whereas I don't know if more is necessarily worth keeping really, really, really, really, really good players out. And it's not like they're getting rid of qualifiers either. Right.

It's like, oh, like they're not doing less qualifiers or less people getting through. I think they're doing, you know, if anything, there might be less spots up for grabs. Like the Columbus qualifier or Springfield or places like that, they would. probably you're going to pros anyway. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard. It's like, all right, really what we're doing here is taking spots away from a very small sample size of one day of qualifying, aside from the local qualifying, it's 36 holes

and giving it to people that have a better track record over longer periods of time. They've played better golf, right? I mean, it's kind of like, when I looked at was like the five leading players from the FedEx Cup this year, get in. Sadarchen Yala Mirage is one of them. I'm like, ah, man, he kind of seems right on the line. somebody he should have to qualify but also it's like it would it kind of stinks when somebody's hot and is you know way up there in the fedex company like yeah they're also not in the u.s.

open and they got to go uh you know fly somewhere else in between tour stops where they're playing really good golf and yeah it's kind of fun but at the same time it uh you're right teach they they they all make sense uh the ones they've added and it does kind of support golf on a more global scale in a lot of ways uh i did it is kind of it is weird with all the uh uh But we live getting OWGR points and live getting like two exemptions into the U.S. Open as well as kind of like all the changes that have happened and events disappearing and the future very much in question is very much. Man, do we get a little out of our skis by granting this all these guys points and all these

things that are happening because there's two coming back to qualifying right there. Yeah, from what I've gathered, I don't think that live is going to as it stands now would be OWGR compliance. So that's going to probably go away relatively quickly. But I would guess those qualifying spots would as well. Section or final qualifying wise to. I just want to give a shout out to the Springfield, Ohio qualifying site. It's like 6,800 yards and it always more than holds its own.

I love that golf course. Except against Zach Blair. Except against Zach Blair. And for the first time in a while, Maxwell Moldovan did not qualify out of there. But it's just, it's, like real golf man you got to figure out how to get the ball in the hole and you got to you got to think your way around it and you can't be above the hole all day you got to you got to lag put well and you got to hit your distance control's got to be dialed and I just I love it that's everything I love about

the US Open and about just Donald Ross and classic design in general ZB got out of there for the fourth time that is amazing outstanding it's a couple other sectional things I had on my on my list J.B. Holmes Getting out of sectionals hasn't played a major soli since the 2019 open when he shot 87 to the funnel round. Yeah. Which is like, he get tired of of, of, of,

of, of, of, of, of, you know, people and member guests and, and,

and, and, under, under an alias. I think he had back injuries going on, DC, but I'm sure that was, but maybe he did get tired of that as well.

But that also happened. That did happen. I got no time for that guy. He, Smelly, smelly, no deodorant. I thought it was a cool story, but it is wild. The only reason I thought was a cool story is like he was he in the final group at Port Rush or second to last group. It was something with Kepka. I know that.

Might have been second to last group because I think Lowry was out front. And it's just very funny to go from, oh man, it's been seven, years and like I think the last round I ever get a play in a major championship is 87 and just completely bottling this thing away and he gets you know it's like oh shit I get to I get to reset the clock that's that's kind of a fun thing. Luke Clinton missing out TZ that's you know tough we're going to have to declare bankruptcy here at some point. I love Cooch playing sectionals that's that's good stuff love to see it big tone Sully completely the Cooch didn't make it way he did not but he played Okay, just clarifying.

No, big, Big Tone couldn't handle Springfield Country Club yet again. Got chewed up and spit out, played his last nine and two over, miss out on his third straight major. Tough. He might, he's getting late early for Big Town.

He's going to go major list this year. Crazy. T.C. is Taylor Montgomery back? He wins out of Del Paso in Sacramento, golf course where we shot our Week in the Life video with the Stanford ladies. That's something to monitor. You know,

all that stock we've got, we've got pent up there. Maybe we get a little return. Return on that. He said he's hit the ball better that he has in years, D.C. Just watch that, watch this space. The driver got bleak for a while.

I don't think he'd ever hit it. You know he could roll a rock. I will laugh at you guys for that, but I also said the words out loud. Like, I think Taylor Montgomery's going to be on the Rider Cup team. I definitely said that back of the day. So just didn't say which team.

Didn't say which Ryder Cup team. Of course, Miles Russell with Charlie Woods on the bag. It was a fun story. He continues to just be a predator. Phenum. Yeah. So it's great. We got a lot of fun stories heading into Shinnecock. Another fun story this week.

This has a T.C. all over it. Golf Australia confirmed on Tuesday at partnership with the DP World Tour and the PGA tour to continue to elevate the men's capital.com Australian Open. This agreement covers 27, 28 and 29. the national championship to again be co-sanctioned by the DP World Tour and the Challenger PGA Tour of Australasia, continuing the tournament's momentum towards a significant period of growth also marks the first time the PGA Tour has formerly partnered with Golf Australia with the agreement set to ensure that the capital.com Australian Open will receive a significant boost in prize money, a distinct window in the global golf calendar,

and optimize the opportunity to attract the world's best players. you can find more details of those developments at CAP shared at the 2020. It'll be shared at this year's Australian Open. More details will come at this year's Australian Open. TC, what's here? Is this a fly the banner moment for you? It's good news. I mean, I'm glad that the DP World Tour can at least give it its own week

instead of having it go against Africa's major as well. Like last year was, they were budding up. against each other the same week, which was tough. Definitely need more purse, need more media distribution. Hopefully it's kind of a cornerstone of the fall as far as, you know, late fall. This could be the international, you know, I'm sure they'll go back to Dubai or Abu Dhabi or wherever to kind of close things out, but this could be a fulcrum of that, that whole part. And then they just announced today, or I guess Monday in Australia, but

they're heading back to the Melbourne sandbelt 27 29 and 30 with the peninsula Kingswood hosting in 27 which I'm told it would be a composite course there and as I've said many times Mike cocking is the future so that thing's it's going to it's going to look like a supermodel on TV it's going to be awesome really really cool course they'll they'll probably go pretty low on it. I'm assuming this means they're still going to Adelaide in 28 to a course that hasn't yet been built by Sharkey. Elv's boy.

And, uh, but yeah, we'll see what happens on that front. I think, uh, you know, they've got some good momentum going now and, and maybe that this can kind of paper over the shortfall.

They've got as far as the media rights go. Yeah. And I don't, there's no details obviously here on what they're, able. I like the sound they have here of, you know, a distinct window in the global golf calendar and optimize the opportunity to attract the world's best players. I don't think you can force Scottie Schaeffler to go play it unless there's new rules around the PGA tour that are agreed to. But creating something in the fall that includes international swing that is that on its own

would give players motivation to go do it would be super interesting. And I don't think they're going to get all of them. don't think they'll get most of them. They will get some. They've gotten Rory, obviously, outside of PJ Tour involvement. And like, Spieth has done this before. And, you know, I don't, I probably a better shot at the younger guys that don't have families. Matt McCarty went down last year. Yeah. Like, there will be, um, some track one players. I think that this would make sense for if the purse is enough and, and the commercial opportunities are there. And it makes sense from a, from a travel perspective. So, uh, it's definitely, it's not the $30 million, signature event that I think we

they probably would need to get all the world's best players to go play it but it's a step in the right direction and a good support behind an event that I think should have more global more worldwide featured but again just that they're going to always have that problem of trying to get the top guys down there

to play for a lot less money when they can roll out of bed and play for $20 million in the U.S. most of the year so yeah and they can't even get Jason Day to go home for it yeah does it end up looking like the like the Zosso is that kind of the model that we're looking at here I think a bigger field than the Zosos though right?

Yeah I just mean I guess yeah yeah I guess I mean more at like the quality of PJ tour players that you're yeah you're seeing where you get a Morikawa every now again or someone like that yeah hopefully it would look like the Cabo event or the you know the gosh I'm trying to think of other I mean like I I think the thing that's always made me mad is like the hero world challenge being against it yeah and it's always that same week or like when the president's cup has been in australia at roland melbourne and tiger is the captain they still played his event and they skipped the australian open the week before that just sucked

yeah you know and like like that doesn't like it doesn't have to be like that if guys want to go down early and experience australia in maybe that's the only time in their career they're going down in doing that they're going down anyway for the president's cup like figure out a way to make it all boats rise you know so anyway i'll get off my soapbox no i i completely agree i think it um yeah every time we engage in this discussion it always ends up at like yeah pro golf isn't as always romantic as we'd like it to be we'd like to celebrate the romantic parts but uh you know it oftentimes doesn't work out uh very romantically i don't disagree with anything you said it just usually becomes pretty soulless and about the money.

But it starts at good venues, too. You got to have good venues. And I think that, you know, Kingston Heath, this fall, and then Peninsula Kingswood next year, that's a hell of a start. On the backs of Royal Melbourne. Yeah, it's epic, epic run. Live golf news and live golf tangent or tangential,

live golf news, I guess. Joel Beale and Golf Digest reported this past week. This is from the article. Multiple sources with knowledge of the matter confirmed a golf digest that Phil Mickelson is no longer a member at the Farms Golf Club outside of San Diego after a female club employee accused the six-time major champion of inappropriate contact with her. Before a round of golf earlier this spring, Golf Digest identified and verified the employee withholding her name to protect her privacy. She declined to participate in the story.

Mickelson, he announced in February that he would step away from competition while attending to a family matter, declined invitations to comment directly on the allegations. But a spokesperson for the golfer offered up the following statement, quote, any misunderstanding has been cleared up. Phil continues to attend to a family health matter and is uncertain when he'll be able to return to professional golf, end quote. Again, according to the story, it says, according to multiple sources, Mickelson approached the female employee at the clubhouse where he made non-consensual

and inappropriate physical contact with her. The employee rejected his advances. and as Mickelson returned to the course, the employee reported the incident to supervisors. Club officials took the allegation seriously, moved quickly, initiated a review and investigation before locating Nicholson mid-round. He was confronted with the accusation on the course

following that confrontation. He was told to vacate the premises and left the course before completing his round. On June 10th, Tom Clare, who is, who Phil has hired, he's a top defamation lawyer in the country. He provided Golf Digest a statement, quote,

there will be a great deal of misinformation circulating, and while Phil's full attention is devoted to a private family health matter, he has retained defamation counsel, and is determined to hold accountable any publication or individual tracking and speculation or false rumors, end quote. Not a very fun story. This has been something that has been circulating for quite some time in the golf world. I want again congratulate Joel Beale and the Golf Digest team for all the reporting and all the legal stuff that you, as you can tell by the statements in there that, These kind of stories are extremely challenging to report on. And only, they were the only group that was able to get to the bottom of that

and to get it published and get it, you know, through the legalese that is required and defamation stuff that's coming their way. All to publicize this story, I want to congratulate them on that. But it has been, yeah, this has been circulating out there on Phil. It's been hard to kind of talk about Phil over the last seven months, knowing this was looming out there, knowing you can't say anything about something this serious. when you don't have it officially reported.

Now we are in a world where this has been reported, and it's obviously reprehensible. What he's been the alleged, what he's been, I'm trying to choose my words carefully here because of what the statements that are out there and the threatening comments that have been made here, but what has been alleged against him

and what golf digest reported here is obviously reprehensible stuff. Yeah, I think two things. One, I love the detail and the story about just what a pillar Phil has been to this club, all the photos of him in the lobby, all of the, uh, you know, all of the collateral that just kind of is wrapped up in being Phil's home club. I don't think you, you know, I don't think you pull him off the golf course mid round, uh, willy nilly. Uh, that was just kind of a telling, a telling detail, uh, to me and too, it sounds very clear that the, the family health matter is separate from this. And so I,

I think there's a lot of conclusion drawing on hiding behind something like that. We don't really know what's going on with Phil outside of this. It seems like there's just many things going on with Phil. And I guess that's kind of my macro takeaway here is there's just many things going on with Phil and none of them seem to be very fun. And so it's just kind of a, I don't know, man. I was texting about it with some friends and was kind of like, oh, the Phil story dropped. And it's like, I honestly, man, I don't know what this, what you're

talking about, but I would believe kind of anything that you could throw at me right now. And that's kind of the point that we've seen to have hit with, uh, with Phil's career. So, uh, it sucks. I think would be the kind of full, uh, you know, the full full takeaway. It was a lot more fun when Phil was trying out for minor league baseball teams and, uh, collecting dinosaur heads and, uh, hidden driver when he shouldn't. And pretty much everything that's happened in the last five years has been very unfun. So that was kind of my, this was the peace de resistance of, of that is kind of how I feel. Yeah. I imagine the, yeah, the club pulling him off the course mid-round. I don't know, it kind of speaks volumes, kind of, you know. Seems like it. Yeah. His home course. And yeah. And there's other,

yeah, this is, this is like, yeah, like you said, the latest in a long string of just publicly and privately debasing himself. So to the point where and it sucks when it gets like this. And I honestly, I am not connecting the dots here for any reason other than their massive fame and golf prowess. But it's kind of how I feel about Tiger as well where I'm just like, man, I don't really give a shit anymore. Like I don't,

I just don't really care about what's going on. None of it's fun. It's all pretty bleak. It's like you kind of realize like once, once the golf stuff goes away and it just becomes a soap opera is when it's like you kind of just miss me with with all of it i just don't have a lot of energy to keep up with what either of them kind of have going on it just is a massive bummer you know you just kind of supposed to be an escape yeah right right yes to make you feel better about the world yeah exactly and so yeah i don't know

i'm not yeah none of that is is supposed to be moralizing or anything like that it's more just like man, I don't know what my part, what my role in this is anymore is, it's just pretty unclear. I'm kind of just going to go. I'll be over here, I think, if you need me. I think the difference with Tiger, though, is, at least there's some hope that, like, Tiger can get right. You know, that, that, I don't know, it feels like there's, there's some life to be lived. And, hey, maybe there's redemption for Phil out there or whatever. But, but it feels like with Tiger, it's like, all right, this is a.

Yes, there's the infidelity and all the nonsense, you know, that he put himself through, put his family through, his kids, his ex-wife, has many mistresses. But also, like, on the backside of that, like a lot of the stuff with Tiger, the substance of use in, you know, pills and all of that seemed to be a direct result of golf injuries. you know golf injuries non-golf injuries that were sustained doing fucking training with the navy seals but all of that to say like it i think with tiger there's there's at least some semblance of hope of like you know what like he seems to be trying to get right or trying to come back from rehab yeah yeah like he's been in rehab for months right so it's it's you know i don't know i feel like that deserves maybe some some some hope or some some optimism yeah i think that there's a there's a sympathy almost to the the inciting event right where it's it's you can see that where the fracture

came from and it doesn't excuse any of the driving when he shouldn't be and and no you know putting other people's lives at risk but i i very much agree with you that you can see like man i understand why this happened and with phil it's like man you look like such a fucking cliche that's that that you look like such a lame cliche like really man it's insider trading and like this stuff like this is what you're allegedly this is what you're Billy Walters golden years here kind of like wrapped up in is like you it's just yeah it's such a lame cliche and all all while doing damage to the golf ecosystem at large as well whereas I think like to say what you want about tiger tiger's been at the core of trying to bring it all

back together yeah this is the part where it's like again I wanted to lead with with like congratulating golf digest for the work that goes into that. Like there's there's there's a lot of stuff. This isn't like an isolate a completely isolated thing as it relates to Phil when it comes to stories that are that extend to be on the golf course. Right. And so there's somebody else here's got a story. Somebody here's got a story.

And I get the sentiment around like, well, don't don't say that if you're not going to share the story. Well, there's a reason like you don't share those stories publicly because what I had heard about this incident was different than what ended up getting reported. and like getting the facts right are really challenging. But there's my point of saying all that is like there's a ton of smoke out there in other aspects like this around Phil that like, I guess a story like this getting nailed, getting finally published. Like the club acting swiftly here I think was a, you know, deserved calling out in terms of no messing around because he's a famous member and not being afraid of, you know, the story getting out in some way like protecting one of their employees and. a woman that got, you know, had this happened to.

Like, it just all stinks. It does. And I don't know if we have any more color to add to it other than like, I think Phil, do we hear from Phil? Is Phil going to be around the golf world in the future and in what capacity is? Maybe not a question for tonight, but I don't see how he continues to be. Well, again, it's, yeah, I think it just gets frustrating where it's like, it's like he owes anybody anything. He doesn't, you know, I hate to even paint it like this, but it's, like man if we're coming at this as golf fans like as a golf fan what man i'd love to see phil back at shinnock this year like i would love if you don't talk about exemptions if you if you hadn't lost his mind over the last five years like i got to think the guy who's finished runner up six

times including at this golf course would be in line for a special exemption and how fun would it be of just oh my god rory got the monkey off the back phil i don't know phil's play played pretty good at houston or like where it's just like feels like we just missed out on like some really fun years of Phil's career. And like being a rider cup captain. Right. They guys is a sociopath. Like you'd be the sickest rider cup captain ever.

Yeah. It's a terrible fall from grace. It's really tough. On the remaining live golf news, front office sports report. I think this was on Monday under the headline live golf may not have funding to last the entire season. That's of course per sources.

Some quotes in that article. a high-ranking executive at one of LiveGolf's major level partners told front office sports, every remaining tournament is on the fence, quote. That uncertainty is shared by many sources inside Live and with close ties to the league who spoke to front office sports. One executive said, I truly don't think anyone knows. LiveGolf doesn't know if or when Piff will shut off the spigot. A prominent person in the golf industry with professional ties to both Live and PGAT, players said, quote, I don't think they'll ever get to Michigan.

That was in the early part of the week. Like a Howard Dean. Was Bedbinder going to be the, going to be the last or off? Is that going to be? So, um, financial times. So Scott O'Neill was on CNBC earlier this week. He was asked if he could guarantee, uh, live would play its next four events. He said, what I can guarantee is.

a heck of a return if you come invest in this business. Kind of a Ben Grinch, Ben Grinch, I got a good feeling. I've been a long time, believer in fate. So I'm gonna leave, I'm gonna leave you with this.

You got a good feeling about this. Which is also like a borderline SEC violation. I think you're allowed to guarantee returns in any business, much less one that is hemorrhage money like the way live golf has. continuing on there's a financial times article later that week that said people familiar with the situation said that the live UK and new jersey events were expected to go ahead but the final two events in the season indianapolis and michigan are dependent on additional funding from the piff front office reported this week that live insiders feared it may not be able to hold some or all of its remaining dates uh i think a lot of this is due to just from what i gathered uh the installment payments that that live has been making i guess and is still continuing to make. I think it's just very easy to call into questions. Like, wait, why does, like, why does live need to continue to make these payments? Like, why do they, if they're out after the end of this year, why do they care to see it all the way through this year? I think was the questions that were

being asked. We heard some rumblings about the ability, you know, players and caddies booking travel towards the UK and delays in that process. I haven't heard any updates on that over the last week. And all I'm saying is there's just a lot of smoke to this. And so if the smoke has led us to the fires that have eventually, Scott Honea refuses to actually, when asked about them directly, refuses to refute them when it comes time. I also don't understand like what the, I think we talked about this last week or a couple weeks ago, like if Liv was to declare bankruptcy, you know, without the, like, and let all the players out of their contracts then.

And then what's the, what's the intrinsic value? Nothing, right? Like, there's, there's no. It's an idea, baby. It's an idea. Yeah. It's the most powerful thing in the world. Like, the name doesn't make any sense anymore because it's 72 whole events.

And also Bob Herig reported that shotgun starts are potentially in jeopardy in future live golf events. My, my guy flush refuted that, though. I don't think he did. I think they're going to mob up. I think some live internal people said the opposite, which does not refute it. His reporting said TV production was $85 to $90 million budget for this year, which does not include salaries for on-air talent.

And that's $6 million per event is double that of what it costs to produce a tour event. So his reporting was suggesting that in a world where costs are going to start to matter for them, this might be one that goes away, which at this point we have 72 whole tournament that's not a shotgun start and you can't wear shorts anymore you got the music now and that's wait you can't wear shorts anymore

didn't they take the shorts away who knows man I can't remember I thought that went away I thought you're right I feel like you're right but I don't remember the whole last five years have been a fever dream right

I don't I don't think you're allowed to wear shorts I'll live anymore but anyways all that to say still a lot happening. I guess. I don't know. I don't know what to take seriously anymore.

It's so bizarre, man. Like, they are, they are specific. I know they're having meetings. They're having these investor meetings. I've heard some feedback from some of those. No one broke NDAs. I'm not saying that. But it's happening.

To your point, though, I don't, I don't understand what people will be buying. Other than, like, there's a golf league out there that they've already burned through billions of dollars getting started up and you don't have to, if you do are interested in starting your own golf league you at least have one that has a little bit of infrastructure in place that's truly save a bunch of money on your legal zoom uh documents you know get getting the thing off incorporated uh it's all i got a lot of signed up it's starting to sound like you uh caddied for bed at the at the gasparilla when you finally ran out of things to say yeah

yeah yeah you know first time for everything yeah yeah you know you know you know and just kind of trail it off. It's kind of how I'm starting to feel about this. I took five at the bunker. What else was I supposed to have for that? Exactly. I think that's the equivalent of what's going on here. As we are speaking, the United States has won the Curtis Cup.

It is looking like it is going to be quite a wide margin of victory despite T.C.'s best efforts to make us think the U.S. It looked like they were bottling it. To you, it did. For a while. To you only. Kelly Zhu, just totally, totally shit the bed in that first match.

And it looked like there was a red wave or a, uh, a blue wave, a blue wave in those first three or four matches and then, and then, I was with you, T.C. I, I fell into the trap that happens during every single session of every tournament. She's like, oh, I don't know, if they all go this way. It's an ingenious scoring structure. Uh, Farrow, Keith went five and oh, Bel Air looked, whole. Awesome. I mean, it's just such a good. Like, man, if you want to do a match plate, like if the tour, obviously the tour players would chew this place up. They could get this place pretty fast, though. Go there for a match play thing at the end of the year. Chambers Bay, Pebble Beach. Like, just stay on the West Coast and do LACC places like that that just sing on TV. I mean, Bel Air, that's the best Bermuda I've ever played on anywhere.

Can I read the future Curtis Cup venues to you? Please. They were at Bel Air this year, which I believe is coming off the heels of Sunningdale last time. They're going to Royal Dornick, a place that we like. They're going to national golf links. They're going to the next international one has not been announced yet, but the U.S. ones are Pine Valley, Banded Dunes, Cypress Point, and Seminole. Sounds like meals here.

Truly just best venues in golf, I think, go to the Curtis Cup and the Walker Cup. What's the worst ranked course on that? Is it banded? Banded and probably, yeah. That's insane. Pacific's a perfect tech. And I assume that that would be involved there. It was very much like firing up Sunnydale coverage, but turning on Bel Air was an audible, just like, holy shit.

Like, look at that flag. hanging from the bridge. Oh my gosh. Spectators out in the in the middle of the fairway. Awesome. And I think the Great Britain and Ireland

like punched above their weight, I would say. Like they probably, I think they were overmatched from a talent perspective in this thing. And they kept it closer after day one

than I thought they were going to and kept it closer deeper into day three than it seemed to. It is 12 to 7 as we're recording this. said the U.S. is up in the one remaining match with two holes to go. So it'll either be looking like it'll either be 13, 7 or 12 and a half,

seven and a half final score there. And it's been awesome, like no commercials, just like. Golf Channel can cook, man. When they get a little, you know, they get out from underneath some contracts and just kind of do the golf thing. They can, they can cook. I love the features in the, I don't, did they, did they, when we played there three years ago, T.C.,

I don't remember this. Like the Baranka on 18, has just like random little pockets of sand now on the grass. I think they juice that up every couple of years. Okay. Yeah. There's a spot around one of the greens too, but it's like randomizes it.

It's very much like that's more intimidating than like a bunker is. Of like I have no idea what kind of. It's a good hazard down there. Yeah. It's just a whole totally. Just add some, add some variety to it. So it's been great.

I thought the USA did a great job too with like, there was a good feature that Boddenhammer did. on golf channel, they did a great job on socials all week, kind of bring it to life, like with the, the tunnel and the elevator and the bridge and all that stuff. I think I really appreciate how the USGA is invested in, and the RNA, for that matter,

in the Walker Cup and the Curtis Cup. They're like great events that represent the best in golf. Get hot. Why don't you, USGA, go in Riv, Curtis, Rive Belair, Shinnock and back to back to back weeks.

Like, sheesh man just absolutely only big big expense reports coming to this and then what u.s.s. marian marian ms.m. isn't married yeah the uh you guys got a chance to see a course we're going to see in some match play later this fall you played into new medina number three it's been open what a year and a half now around then probably a couple years i think you've been up there a couple years yeah yeah uh take us to to what we can expect at tiz i know you'd been there before right

after it's played a last summer yeah yeah Um, with my guys the thirsty camels. Uh, and it was, like, Dij, I had never seen it before. So I'm probably not a great person to, to, you know, comment on what it was prior. But I thought you summed it up really well when we were there. You're just like, yeah, like I didn't ever need to come back to this place. Yeah, I played it. Uh, yeah.

I played it twice. I played it once, uh, for like a high school graduation present sort of round, uh, with some family and then played uh again sally when you and i were there at the end of our our rider cup road trip uh that we did quite a few years ago and yeah i got got through it i'm just like it was one of those golf courses where people look at you and you're like oh man you're gonna love that place it's so hard and i'm like ah that's not totally my my vibe i'm not that good uh and it was just a lot of back and forth and very sloggy and we cut out some trees go hit it in between them and you're probably not going to find your ball in the rough and it's just if you do hit in the

rough you're not going to be able to get it to the green and it just is like just brutally difficult and not in a fun way there's a lot of brutally difficult golf courses that can still be very fun and this was not one of them for me and so when I heard about the renovation I was I was excited because it's a awesome piece of land it's it reminds me a little bit of Eastlake in that way where it's like man how does this how does this golf course so unmemorable like the land is so cool comp at all like with the right in the middle too yeah the you know the the the land is cool the membership is very passionate there's a lot of it's it checks a lot of boxes for hosting that's where it differs for me's like that's so that's maybe true uh but it's uh yeah i i didn't really know what to expect it's

and and it looked very cool man it lived it lived i don't even think it lived up to the expectations just exceeded them i was texting sally photos or it was like what truly like what if i told you i was at Medina right now because I know you saw it a couple times before the renovation too and it's it just looks like a different golf course it looks like it could you could drop it into england in spots it looks like it could be nebraska in spots it looks like uh it could be yeah just all kinds of different places australia i mean it's it's just really really cool they changed i mean the big they changed a ton of things but the things that people will notice the most i think is like instead of the identical par threes,

they kind of both go over that lake in the same way. It was 13 and 17, I think. They've just kind of kicked those two holes at an angle and set the greens at different spots, and they just made them thrilling shots. Weren't afraid to redo the Marines. Yeah. We weren't afraid

to redo the routing a little bit. Great short grass all around the greens instead of just like you miss and the ball's going to stop you know, a foot away and eight inch rough. It's like you miss down there and the ball's going to roll 60 yards down and you're going to have an impossible chip. A lot of risk reward stuff.

It seems like a place like if you just put the peg in the ground and you said we're hosting the BMW championship, it would probably be pretty low scores. They could stretch it out and firm it out if they're, you know, if they could get it in windy September or something. But for the President's Cup, it's like, it doesn't matter, man. It's match play. There's a ton of like, can you drive the green or can you not type of spots? where guys could hit it in horrible spots.

It's just, I don't know. TZ, I walked off cautiously, like, we were kind of looking at each other. Like, are we, like, are we excited for the president's cup? This is, this is wild. But it was great. We had a really great time out there. Yeah.

I feel like I've been through the gauntlet other than having seen the new one of, like, I played Medina when I was like 25 and it was like, you know, if I could get invited to play one place for one day, I'd be Medina. Like, oh my God. Like, they had the writer come to. like incredible. I played it. It was like, how great was Medina? I was like, yeah, it was great, man. I don't know how much fun, but like, oh, it was great because they have big events

there. Like, that's what made it great. Like I don't we had that fun. And then we played it in 2019. I was kind of like, it was like, we were the only ones out there that day. It was like a cold, weird day. I was like, this is I don't what are we what's special about this again? I don't really don't remember. But now here and your guys reaction, you know, gets me pretty excited about it. He even had me checking President's Cup standings today. What are you seeing, Solly? It's not good. It's not good, T.C. On which side? Both. Let's just let's just pretend that, well, there's top 12 in the rankings, both sides. And we'll pretend that's that's what the roster would be, obviously. Can we do singles matches here? Let's pretend these are singles matches.

Let's go one versus one, two versus two. Okay. Okay. Scotty Sheffler versus Do you know who's number one on the international list? I'm looking at it right now. Okay. Siwu Kim. Sign me up. They'd be great. They'd be great.

Fantastic. Good theater. I will take Scotty there, I think. But it is, it's good theater. I like it. Cam Young versus Hedekhi Matsuyama. Tempo Town. Yeah, which Cam Young?

The pause boys. You know, they both got the pause at the top. Russ Henley versus Minwu Lee. That's like the unstable. Comtown versus the most stable Comptown. He's like a noble gas. You know?

Ben Griffin is fourth on the points list against Jason Day. It's concerning for TV USA. Fourth on the points list. Many volumes versus you know, the balloon guy. Fifth on the list here. Fifth

best player on both sides. We got JJ Spahn versus Nico Etchevaria. Sure. All right. Morikawa versus Adam Scott. Oh, sign me out. These actually should be the singles matches. These are great matches.

They are good matches. J.T. versus Corey Connors. It's another good match. That's the, don't know what you're going to get there. So now we're a seventh. Those guys are outside the top six. Goderup versus Ryan Fox.

Sign me up. These are sick. Zander versus Rio Hizatsatsune. Okay. That one might be tough for the, we'll see. Jacob Bridgman versus Nick Taylor. The blowbyes. They both got the,

they both got the black Adidas on. Yeah, the battle of the blowbox. Sam Burns versus Jaden Shaper. I'm not familiar with Jaden's game. I did have to Google him. I was, I forgot he won the Dunhill.

On the Dunhill this fall. I think he won twice on the DP World Tour in the fall. Yeah. And some of those kind of zany events. and then Harris English versus Sung Jay let's just keep it going too. Okshay versus Casey Jarvis

Matt was playing in the world at one point. And Ryan Gerard versus Sean Norris. Man, what happened to American golf? What happened to golf? What happened? Who's not on there? Can't lay?

Max. Wesley Wesley Street Seam. Kepka, Berger, fienal, Bryson. Yeah, DJ, Spief.

It's insane how much golf has changed in five years. And I know there's turnover, but man, not like this. Brianne. Michael Brennan. I saw, I saw Coyville was hanging out with Bryson and P.

I love it. The young guy. I love it. What if he turns heel? What if he just, what if he just becomes a, you know, a villain?

be fascinating. Anyways, that's going to conclude tonight's President's Cup segment here in June, which is the first President's Cup talk we've had, I think, so far this year. So I had no, I was expecting bleak things from the international side. I had no idea how bad team USA is trending right now.

Right. Fascinating. I just don't know how to how they're doing their points. Who's missing from the, from the internationals? Walker, I like, as far as like anywhere in the world or like outside standing. Obviously, yeah. Cam, Waco.

But you've got, what, McKenzie Hughes. Yeah, God, is Nick Taylor not on there? No, he is 10th. Yeah, McKenzie Hughes, but you don't, you don't have. Your guy, Pando's nowhere in sight, thankfully. He's only through the memorial as well. If you're looking for like top worldwide strokes gained over the last year, international guys. I'm not at list.

Brandon Grace is up there. But Zadenhot is up there, but he's not trending great. And Waco, but Waco's really, really, really, really falling off. Daniel Hillier, yeah, there's, there's not a whole lot. I mean, Adrian Otagway now. He plays for Abu Dhabi. He's no longer Spanish. He's technically eligible.

Interesting. I think you've got to wait a certain period of time. though to be eligible for these. Like the old transfer rules. You've never played in one. Yeah. Guys, we have 99 days,

10 hours and 39 minutes until until the first tee shots of the president. Which yeah, we had to wait until we're under 100. That's usually our president's cup rule. So, all right. Moving us towards wrapping. We will have a preview of the U.S. Open coming out tomorrow Monday.

If you're listening to this, it's coming out today. We're going to go live on our NoLing up podcast YouTube channel at 3. 30 p.m. Eastern time. Going to make our picks, top storylines. If you missed it this past week, we had a Shinnecock course preview podcast that went out this past Tuesday.

I highly suggest the video portion of that. We interviewed Jeff Hall and John Bowden-Amer from the USGA, asked them a bunch about Shinnecock. This was from the Media Day. I have a bunch of footage in there for Media Day as well. Whole descriptions. If you're looking to get primed on Shinnecock Hills, go back in your podcast feed and find that one.

Me and TC and Neil talked about our experiences out there. and just how hyped we are for probably the best U.S. Open venue of them all. We will have, we also had a U.S. Open draft. We've been doing this before the majors this year, drafting our best, our versions of the best U.S. Open, having judges pick our selections on that one. That one was a total witch hunt.

You don't have to listen to that one. Don't give away. Don't give away who won and who didn't. But go check that one out from last week. Meals and the gummies. Great guest appearances on that one. And then, yeah, we'll also be live Wednesday. for a little kickoff show.

That'll be around 4 p.m. Eastern time and then live after every round of play, of course, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. So much to discuss. T.C., how's the weather looking this coming week? Looks good. It looks mostly dry. Maybe some risk of some rain showers tomorrow, Monday.

But otherwise, it looks delightful the rest of the week. Maybe a little bit of chance of rain on Friday as well. Seeing some wind in the forecast for the early rounds. Thursday looks windy, guys. Gus up in the week. the 30s. Oh, we're talking. Eat it.

Huge, huge. That's my shitty app, though, T.C. I don't, I don't want to jump the gun on, on, on your app there. We're still outside the, you know, the 72 hour window. I feel like I don't trust the models quite as much on the wind front, especially on a spit of land like that. I mean, like Southampton, just to see Gus 35 miles an hour before noon on Thursday is like, you're not going to get no you're not going to get nothing because there's just nowhere for it to hide

I mean my fear with that much wind is them like getting out the super cautious yeah yeah well speaking with Zach Johnson won one one at the wakonda club in in Iowa today on the champions tour wakonda forever tc uh the the projected direction is out of the south which is the concerning one for number seven. The exciting one for number seven. Yes, but could be so good they stop play again, is the concern there, I think. That's what they would be concerned of.

Anyways, we also, Neil, also, every shot, Neil hit at Shinnecock on the Media Day. That's on the no laying up YouTube channel. If you haven't caught that one, it is well worth your time, a tight 30-minute watch with his commentary throughout that round. is the best attempt to break 80. We also had THG was on the trap draw this past week to talk about the World Cup, to preview

the World Cup. I'm not sure exactly what that was, but if you're still looking to get primed on the World Cup in some weird way, some masochistic way, due to the trap draw for that way. When THG called the you and Randy, Mike and Sully for Monsters Inc. I think that was the, I don't know if there's been a funny or something. things said on the trap draw in the history of the history of the feed i i lost my mind when he said that t hg's truly a truly a menace i mean they they broke the mold on him i've gotten some some great a lot a lot of t hg heads out there a lot more t hg heads than i've never seen inspiring a generation i

think yeah you might need to stop giving him oxygen we'll have a new seamsters out uh this week as well that we recorded this past week um glad we got a lot of niz praise in before the uh essentially the the best performance in brewers pitching history on Friday night. Yeah. How's it? He was rocking. Today, Sally. 10Ks, quality start.

Excellent. He's not washed anymore? Come back to her. Don't want to acknowledge this. Hey, I want to give a shout out to my wife, Alex, her uncle pair. He shot his age this week in competition in a tournament in Sweden. 64. Always a thrill.

Which is, that's some good, good plan. Bogey Free 64. And then our friend Greg McCray, you'll see plenty more of in Taurus sauce this year. He, along with the Cookie Jarboys, played every hole on the island of Aaron. Seven different golf courses. In one day.

Yeah. In one day. Yeah. Notable. Just completed all seven courses for his life there on Aaron. Yeah, in one day. Played a ball in one day. Which I think when you see Taurus, you see some of the walks that we're that we're talking about here, it's, that's going to be even more impressive.

That is a 95 holes, driving between them all, all that stuff. So good stuff there. Yeah. I would shout out you probably heard, you know, during ad reads and during promotions over the last, I don't know, six months. We were doing a day out at Aaron Hills with our friends at Roeback, little sweepstakes, play, play some golf with us. We had that day on Friday. It was great. Shout out to Casey and Jake from St. Louis. We had a great time. They were very good sports about the whole best fans and baseball stuff. It was, it was great. We got full conditions.

The wind was pumping hardest pins I've ever seen out there. It was it was brutal, but it was very, very fun. Everything you're looking, looking forward to be. So thanks to Aaron Hills and Roeback for having us out. Just a few pictures I saw. I was like, oh, no, another shot at Aaron Hills. I can hit Fairways now. I want to play that course again. It was great. Shout out to my guy, Spencer.

Major championship winning caddy. He was on Ben's bag for the NLU Club Championship. So that's always a thrill. Which shout out caddies. Ben Carr, who I've had on the bag before at a hoopie, finished second on the corner of ferry tour this. Hey. He was the runner up in the USAM a few years ago with the Wave God was on the bag for him.

That's right. And Rio, Rio, Rio, Ysikawa, T3. That's right. That's crazy. in yeah, where were they in? Amarillo. Amarillo. Amarillo. Oh, what a song. George Strait. All right, that's gonna do it for this week.

Stay tuned all week. We will love to spend another major championship week with you. We'll have lots and lots and lots of content this coming week and cannot wait to watch the US Open and Shinnock this week. Neil's gonna be out there on site for a couple of days. We'll have plenty of previews and plenty of reaction after every round. So thank you to our friends at Titleist. Of course, Holderness and Bourne and Locke Loman for DJ and TC.

Good night. Thank you for joining us. We'll see you this week. Cheers. Crack on.