No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1179: Vik & Scottie go to a playoff, Haeran Ryu wins the KPMG

Episode Date: June 29, 2026

Vik Hovland and Scottie Scheffler are headed to a Monday morning playoff at the Travelers. We break down a busy week in golf: Haeran Ryu wins the KPMG Women's PGA Championship, Eugenio Chacarra goes back-to-back and wins the DS Automobiles Open, and Blockie makes his Champions Tour debut. Plus, we get a new Fedora 5, discuss Phil Mickelson news, cover down on notes, and a bunch more. Presented by Titleist. Support our sponsors: Titleist - the #1 ball in Golf! High Noon - Suns Up! Rhoback - code NLU for 20% off at https://www.rhoback.com Looking to travel this year, check out East Sands Golf Co.: https://www.eastsandsgolf.co/nlu Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: https://nolayingup.com/esf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club. Be the right club today. Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? It is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up Live show presented, as always, by Titleist. My name is Salli, joined by my esteemed colleague, Mr. T.C., hello, T.C.

Hey, Sallie. How are you? I'm wonderful. Happy Sunday to you. Icarito, Neil Schuster is here. Hello, Neil. Gentlemen, greetings, good evening, fired up to be here. Big Randy is here.

Got the audio issue, not even fixed, but he's here. Hello, Mr. Big. Hi, guys. New studio. I'm up in Michigan. I'm trying this mic. The sounds actually coming through my ear pods. I told the guys, I'm like, I don't know what to do with my hands if I don't hold the

mic. So apologies for the little late start. It's got a great to be here. We have an action-packed show for you here tonight. going to talk a little travelers, of course, KPMG Women's PGA, a few news items here, a little light on the news this week. If you missed it, we dove in deep on the changes that the PGA tour announced earlier this week in an entirely separate episode in great detail. Talk to Matt Van Neely about it. Talk to Tony Fee now about it. That was Tuesday's episode. So if you're looking for news and reaction to that one, you'll find a lot of that in that one, won't have a much, a little follow up on that stuff here.

We do not have a winner at the Travelers as we go as the sunset on. Cromwell, Connecticut. They could have gotten it in up here, New Jersey. There's still enough flight to play golf right now. We're 30 minutes past when they wrapped it, Sali. Yeah, maybe send him 715 and then tell them to hurry so you can get maybe one flat a hole. There was juice out there.

There was. I thought it would have been a good finish tonight. And yeah, we'll get there. But I'm disappointed in that decision. There was juice there. Not a lot of juice as Haydn, you won the KPMG Women's PGA, Eugenio Chikara, won the DS Automobiles Open. Drew Nesbitt won the Memorial Health.

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Constant tinker. The Phantom 3.2 is in golf shops now. The 12 will be joining it on July 23rd. Titleist.com to learn more information at the Travelers. Victor Hovlin took a one-shot lead into the final round over Scotty Sheffler. He was struggling a little bit early. he went out in one over par, turned the lead back over to Scotty. But Scottie was kind of meh as well.

He went out and even one birdie and one bogey on the front. Bertie 10 and 14 to take a one shot lead. Colmore Cowah around this time, finished with a birdie shoot shot of final around 61 to get in the house at 20 under. Right as the rain started absolutely dumping, went into a delay. Hovlin responded off the delay, made a put from off the green on 14 to pull within one. Then he birded 15 to tie it. Got exciting there, the last two, Hovlin and Scotty playing together.

those last three holes, but they've made three pars on 16, 17, and 18. Scotty had to make an eight-footer to extend the playoff in the kind of dark, not really the dark, but kind of the dark. But just a tip of the cap to all the travelers fans out there that battled through the rain delay and created that atmosphere around 18. It is a constant, this event on the PJ tour being just a great stadium atmosphere around 18, great fan energy. I've never been to this one.

It's one I'd like to go. it's always after U.S. Open week and always a tough travel week. But I don't know, I was not expecting that many people around the 18th green as play finished up for today. It's a good, good, always a good crowd up there. Sali, 15 delivered as always as well. I know you were, you were all stoked about how 15 was playing. That was kind of a time point.

We're going to dive into that a little bit. Yeah. So we're not going to start there. I'm not going to start people there, but we can, we can, So, Sally, it's almost, I can't really explain what it is, but this tournament does always deliver for me. It's kind of, with the scoring, it sometimes feels like a hit and giggle, but it just comes down to the wide. Like the 18th hole, I don't know, it kind of stinks, but it just, it's the amphitheater. And, I mean, you know, similar to TPC sawgrass, when you get fans stacked up on a hill like that, it just, even that visual adds a lot of juice.

And I hope, you know, we talked a lot about the PJ tour's, you know, upcoming changes over the next couple of years. years and they're talking about bigger markets you know hartford's not a big market it's like big market adjacent and uh it just feels like this tournament has a real identity and um i don't know like following in that area and i hope tradition yeah and i hope they can it's like maybe we can keep this one just for my nostalgic and i know you want to talk about should they change this course it's like nah leave this one the same like i just you don't need to mess with this one Like, who cares? Let the scoring be what the scoring is.

It always comes down to like a shootout on the 18th hole. Or like it was playoff like it was in what, 2021? Oh, God, the Harris English. Harris English. And that was the night that I yelled, they called out the Nelly over under 11. That was after that playoff because I was in a hotel room in Denver. And that's the thing.

I always feel like I remember. There was the climate protesters. Like, I always remember the travelers. And then you compare it to like Bay Hill. I'm like, fuck, I can't remember what happened this year at Bay Hill. You know what I mean? Like, no offense to Bay Hill. hill but you get my point i think scoring was this this year deserves a pass right because it's been

it's been pretty firmed up the last few years and the shot values have been there especially down the stretch uh it's like i i think this is a top three tpc network course in my opinion it's it's it's got some classic elements uh you know you got it's it's just an electric back nine the whole thing all the way through minus 15, which we'll get to. Scoring average this year, 67.5. I went and looked this up. The last four years going backwards, like 2025 is next. 69.2, 67.6 in 2024, 68.1 and 69.3 in 2022.

They did a renovation, I think, in 2015, 2016, around that time to beefing it up a little bit. And I mean, I think it's probably. probably time for a little bit of something, you know, maybe nip and tuck, adding some contouring, you know, maybe narrowing things just a little bit. It's a short course, but guys hit a ton of fairways. I think Fitz, I don't know what he ended up at. At one point, Fitz, uh, was 51 of 54. I don't know what he did on his last two fairways. He Matt Fitzpatrick hit 53 of 56 fairways this week, uh, on a, on a short golf course. I know the rain changes everything to it, but, um, I don't know it just seems like there could be just a little bit more meat on the bone scotty almost

broke 60 this week and nobody really batted in i had any part of the last two old issues 60 some big names on the design rundown you got robert j ross a cousin of donald uh did the original with maurice uh kearney and then pt die in nineteen eighty two maris claret oh no i'm i'm you know and then pete die in 82 pjator purchased the course commissioned pt die to do a complete redesign uh to lay out the tpc standards and then our our guy bobby's Bobby Weed in 1989. So I don't know who did the most recent one, though, Sali. I thought weed did it in 1516.

Okay, that would make sense because he laid hands on it in 89. Bobby's been out for a long time. Like, it's a great spectator course. Like you guys said, there's natural amphitheaters. The par fives are good. Like that par five on the back is always good. Solly, I think with the agronomy on 15, they could easily beef that up. But also, I think, like, I think a whole like 15, you saw what happened to Scotty,

where he chipped it too far. I think with more contours on some of those greens, you could make that, because they've got good short grass around a lot of the greens as well, but they could make those holes a little bit more consequential, especially in the kind of the meat of the golf course,

10 through 13 or 14 there. But I mean, 14's, like 14 was electric today. That was the one that, you know, is 13 or 14 to part, par 5? 13. 14 is the short for Hoblin made the puff from off the community. I mean, Poston made a 12 there today on 13.

Like that's, you know, there's some, there's some stuff going on. It was just, it was just Drunch City USA this week. Poston lost seven strokes around the green on 13 today. I've never seen that he chipped it in the water like three times, I think. I've never seen that. No, 15, I get very upset watching this hole every year because it could be good. I don't know why we're bailing guys out that missed left of that of that hole. The whole point is like there's water left.

How do you navigate it? Do you take it on? Do you take on the risk? Or do you bail right and we're going to have no angle and reach a lot of difficulty? About about 7% of T-balls made it into the water on 15 today. And it is continually called. I'm sorry, not today on the whole week as a whole. And it's continually called one of the great risk-reward short-forers.

There's no risk at all. It's just all reward. it's a nicely contoured green but it's just the balls that missed left of that should go in the water Scotty hit a bad T shot a bad second shot a bad third shot and made par in this image here that you're showing here

that Cody showed these are all the balls this was as of like 2 30 today all the balls that missed left the scoring average on all of these balls was 4.05 like if you missed it in the worst spot you could left of 15 even if including the balls that went in the water the scoring average was barely over par it just should be

way, way, way more penal. And I, you know what's sweet though, Sali? Is we been at this so long that I, I hadn't been checking in with our Twitter or our Slack. And I saw Scotty's ball hold up. And I'm like, it's like entertainment for me like, oh, it's always going to be so pissed. It's like an added bonus for me.

It's like part of the tournament now, which is really funny. Facts said, you know, like any other week, uh, that ball would be in the water. Like either when Wyndham hit it down there when Scotty hit it down. when Scottie hit it down there. Scottie did. And it was like, no, no, man. Like that happens every year.

Ruff just stops those balls every time. And, yeah, I don't, I just don't understand that. But that, that is where I think, like, you know, I pick on it now because we are talking about a new era of the PGA tour in, whatever, one, one hole. It's more of a mindset kind of thing or, like, everything around that green looks like a PGA tour hole. It's like kind of tough, but just tough enough that nobody's going to ever.

bitch about how hard it is. And I think we want to see these guys get challenged. Yeah, yes, exactly. I want to see Scott get boned for missing long right of that pin today. It should have taken an excellent shot to recover. And again, this is like, it's hard to come off Shinnecock, what we just watched and go into this in terms of like where, you know, add in the rain did not, did not help things, of course. But in terms of where punishment was happening around the greens and now it's kind of like, eh, okay, chip it close. The crowd's going to go nuts. Who cares, guys. Yeah, there's a photo component to this tournament. I think that I know, because I agree with everything you just said,

but I still enjoy watching this event. And so it's like, but I, there's a lot of other events that are like this that I don't enjoy watching. And that's the part that I'm struggling to, I'm asking myself like, well, what is it? Like, what is it about that? Like, why is it this place that a year after year? I'm excited to turn this on. I think it is.

Because it's a photo. They're excited. Now, I didn't love the USA chance after like Colin Moracawa of all people. people hold out on on 18 and and why are we doing us a bunch of people out there with nor Norway that's the norway this was clearly response to the Norwegian if they're going to be jingoistic stuff I think that's I think that was a good spirit usually but Neil it's awkward but that was fun but Neil I do think it's like it's just a matter of people being excited to watch golf and that comes through that energy that juice comes through on TV and

it kind of draws you in right yeah um it might truly be that simple and I appreciate this place because of it. And, Sali, I think, like, a question for you, is there a short par four on tour that isn't described as a brilliant risk reward par four? Well, I look this up today, too. TZ17 at TPCSkestale, I think, is the best short four on tour. And almost 11% of seaballs go in the water left of that green, right?

Because it's just way closer and everything funnels towards it and it is something you've got to deal with at some point. Whereas this one is only like only if you hit a very bad shot as a ball going in the water, that's not good design for the best players in the world. Like make them navigate it, man. Like that's the whole point. But anyways. So would you want them,

you think like more of a percentage of guys should be laying back? I think it should be a decision. Like I think that is an interesting part of it. But I think it should just be something that you've got to, if you are going to go for it and you miss left, like you're in, you're in the water. You know what I mean? That whole, this whole at TPC River Highlands reminds me a lot of the one at Quail Hollow. Is that 14?

Yes. Yes. Where that, I feel like that pond also should be more of a factor. And you guys can just bail right there into that rough and those bunkers. Perverse incentives, man. Yeah. They're both close, though.

It's like, oh, man, this whole, when they do the flyover, like, this whole looks sick. It's just like you're saying, it's like, yeah, no one's going to bitch about it. That's part of the TPC guidelines, solid. Exactly. Just on the edge. Yeah. Can we see? Like that too.

While we're shaving 15, I thought 16, I thought came into play a little bit. Like Windham couldn't control a spin. Granted, it's a little softer after the rain. Like, let's shave the bank on 16 too. I want to see these guys properly land and control the spin on the golf ball. So maybe we can get a Bogos situation on shaved downs. I think golf courses, if we're going to, if ball's going to go as far, they got to start getting comically harder.

Like, these guys are going to push back on, on rollback, like, man, just make it, make it mean-spirited. Make it uncomfortable. I want people bitching. I'm, I'm, consider me in Camp Randy, uh, on setups like this, okay. So volatility's good, man. So, um, who do you think wins tomorrow? We haven't even, we haven't even discussed who might, uh, T.C.

This could be a massive redemption for you on the, on the, on the, I know, I know. I know. This is, this is the turnover I've been waiting for, sally. Uh, I thought we were going to get two shots swing on 15 there and it didn't happen. but man I was like I was thinking I was like man Scottie's gonna try to end this right right here and there like you know hit one really hard sure enough he did and then he makes the comebacker on 18 so poured that in the middle

hey a little fist pump yeah that was a really good that was a really good second shot in there too from that like I know he had a good lie in that right rough but waterlogged pretty thick rough to a tucked pin to get that where he did on the green that was a very very good shot he hit into 17 like in the first cut like ball kind of downhill lie and yeah hit like a like a punch like 190 like a punchy i don't know if it was a six eye or what it just kind of skids and then stops doesn't spin i mean that pin high like that was incredible um i don't know he started off sally a little it seems shake not shaky but just

kind of stuck in neutral on the on the front nine didn't seem like scotty had his best stuff god And I thought Victor jarred that putt on 18. And it just feels like tomorrow is, you know, Scotty coming out early. Like, I think he wins it. It's like, man, Vic, you had a shot there. You had a chance. Yeah, I feel like that put should have got in and it didn't. And I don't think he's going to win now.

That's kind of where I'm where I'm at. I don't know. I think Vic gets it done tomorrow. I don't know. I hope he does. And you know what? I hope he comes out in that same shirt because that shirt ruled. I liked his look today.

Another highlight of the day, how unprepared everybody was for the rain. Nobody had any rain gear in the bag. Do you guys notice that? Like, they're just getting dumped on. Like caddies, players, like they had like Morikawa and Scotty had like vests, but you could tell they weren't really waterproof vest. But it feels like this cell came out of nowhere, which I don't, I don't think it was, yeah, I don't think it was at all in the forecast.

And then like they kept playing. I was hoping, I was loving watching them just. It was raining so hard for a good 25, 30 minutes there, and then they finally got that little bit of electricity. And like those guys never have to play in the rain. I know. You know what I mean? Like it's always a thunderstorm or like they get pulled off the golf course. It's really fun to just watch them suffer a little bit sometimes.

And then, you know, Joe Griner comes back out. No bib. I imagine his bib was probably soaked. He's like, fuck it. I'm just going to wear a hoodie. I got my credential on. I hope the Norwegians. Do we think the Norwegian fans show back up tomorrow morning?

I hope they do. When do they play next? Yeah, where's their next game? I don't think they play tomorrow. They were in Boston, but they have to go on the road now, I think. Tuesday, Dallas. They play Tuesday. In Texas.

You got time to get to Texas. Yeah, you got time. Come on. They might be driving, though, like Hovlin does. You know, just beating up the interstate. we if you know this is a course that like could lead to I don't know how many times they play 18 but like it could be a long playoff tomorrow too is part of the deal like I'll be interested to see how much the course dries out but good to see howlin played some some pretty good

serious golf as well he had some shaky shots today and some bad polls but um he fought back man I kind of thought he was going to squirrel it away and not be relevant but birdie's on 13 14 and 15 to run Scotty down was good stuff. And for someone who's struggled chipping the ball, some pretty good stress testing of the chipping and pitching the last few holes there. He's such a likable guy. Cudy pie, right? He's the, yeah, Carson said it.

She's like, oh, the cutie pie's in the hunt. I love it. Yeah, it's like he's just, I love the way he thrashes at the golf ball. And this would be his eighth win, which I don't know, because he's kind of been in the wilderness the last. you know, you could Valspar last year. But before that, like, Tor championship in 2023,

that's seven wins is, I guess more than I thought, but he's got what, tour championship, BMW Memorial. So this would kind of go in that tier. And then he's got two wins at the worldwide technology championships, Miyobo, Puerto Rico, and Valspar.

So he's just knocking off these kind of siggies and, you know, kind of challenger, challenger events, Sully. Just, yeah, just one more than big tone.

That's how I see that. on that list. So rocked right into that one. That's a good amount for big. No, don't apologize for that, Neil. Guys,

how much, how long do we, of a run do we need to see a lot of Wyndham Clark like this before we, before we did declare him one of the best players in the world? Because it,

uh, it's, it's looking concerning at the moment, how, how on offense he is. He had 20 putts today. I know that can be a misleading stat because he missed on the fringe like eight times today,

but, uh, led the field in putting this week. And just, just has a, you just won a U.S. Open at quite a difficult golf course. Now it gets back into playing on offense golf where I think he actually looks the most comfortable. It, uh, I don't, I've, I've been tricked recently into some very hot runs by American players. And I've graduated them into a certain tier that I might end up regretting.

I'm not going to do that about winning them right now. But I mean, gosh, he's fourth in the FedEx Cup now. Like he could be, he could win the FedEx Cup this year quite easily. Can we do it? I've got a new Fedora five. First time since, since later. I think we got to do it. This is the right time.

Cody, I don't mean to put you in a, in a tough spot here. It can't go without the intro. We do not have the intro. That have the intro. Sorry, TC. Okay. Solly, keep, keep, keep, uh, keep film time. Just go.

I think you can go for your, your, your, Fidora five. I think we could pass on the intro. All right. Fedora five. We're going to go from, from five to one. Five. We've got P. P. and Sam Burns.

T.C., that's a disgrace. This is bad. Pete, he needs to fall out of the list. He's still, you know, Burns shot 66, 66, 66, 66, 67 this week. One off of the double McKenzie Hughes.

He must have a third, right? Oh, no, he finished T12. Nobody has an issue with Sam Burns one. It's, P had an opportunity to go master's U.S. PGA, US open. He had the ability to do great things. and he squandered each opportunity.

How could he still be in the Fedora 5? Because he was so dominant in the first Q1. He finished 45th this week. He had a bad round three. Wait a second. You said this was a forward-looking model. And now you're saying, because he was good in Q1. I know, it is.

And he, listen, Sally, he's only played like three times since Q1. He played the Masters. He played the PGA Championship. He played the U.S. Open. he's got the most difficult strength of schedule out there of anybody in the world right now p ain't played nobody tc come on tc this is like he's in charge of that a little bit is he being forced to play that no he's going to ramp back up and he'll be fine heading into the fall so we got p and sam burns at four uh all right sorry at five we've got a tie at four as well

little baby colin uh just basically on the on the on the back of what he did today. Final round 61, 61, 61 on the weekend, 125. Nothing to sneeze at there. And then I had a, the models are using like completely different scales for P and for Colin. For P, it's like, no, no, it's all about Q1. For cause, no, he shot 61 today. You can't, I mean, you know, this is the Fodora 5, Neil. Yeah, we're not a lot of comment.

You're right. You're right. And then tied with him. I had him at third, but I had to bump him down after he tripled the last hole today. Blocky. Blocky looks so at home on the senior tour. Like, it's concerning. He was, he was, you know, apoplectic every time.

Who's tied for third? You said Blocky's tied for third? No, no, we're doing fourth right now, Sally. Blocky's tied for fourth with college. Tied for fourth. I had him at third. I had him tied for third. Then I had to move him down after, after he.

so he's not the fero from the middle of the fairway after hitting a tree if there's two guys at four then we then p is no longer in the fedora five neither is sam burns and neither is san berth listen you you guys aren't allowed to comment on this we can count to five that is the only thing we could do that's tough that's tough uh all right next up we've got uh so call in blocky next up we got the fitzpatrick brothers they're the lone they're the lone holdover Ian Burns are like tied for eighth at this point. I will accept the Fitzpatrick buyers as a package deal. That one I will allow, but you're on thin ice, T.C.

Okay. I mean, this is their third appearance on the Fedora 5. They were in the April 6th version. They were in the April 26th version, and now they're in the June 28th version. Number two is how good Alex is playing, and also Matt's refused to let him beat him. Alex T7 this week and Matt Fitz was T4th this week.

number two dub and dub was he was he was up against it at number one uh prior to that debacle on 16 there but he's dub's playing good golf guys i would say dub tried to hit a pretty cool shot into 17 uh you meant 17 there where he dumped in the water with nine iron from 132 but he's like 17 was where he dumped in the water he was hitting the shot that i was like at i wanted guys to hit was like go up the club and hit it with less spin so it doesn't suck back. He just like chunked it in the water. How damning though?

How damning the one chance you're trying to be a real shotmaker? A shot maker. That's the result. Like that is that's tough for the look. Very fair. That sounds it up pretty well there. Seriously on Wyndham to come off the U.S.

Open and all the press stuff and then go up to Hartford and ball out like mad respect. And I thought he's, I think he's been excellent with all the press stuff. he told a great story I'll pardon my take of of why he had some they asked about some tweet he had about this

that I hate Baker Mayfield and asked him why that was he's like yeah all right everybody hates me whatever I'll tell the story anyways but my girlfriend in college cheated on me with Baker Mayfield and got a pretty good laugh out of that but that was that was good content his whole PR team sitting next to him

so I got it I got it I got it I got it it's cool it's cool I got it And, Sallie, I will agree with you wholeheartedly. I think he handled everything fantastically in the, in the, in the aftermath of the US Open, and during the US Open too. Can I just say, you know, Sali asked a question, how much good golf does he have to play for us to believe? Like, as long as he keeps playing good golf, I'm a believer.

I feel like we saw a little of this last time he won the US Open and then he went away. So I don't want to get fooled again, I guess, Sully. Yeah. That'd be a shame on you, Randy. Right. And I'm not trying to shame me. Yeah. Which I weirdly believe it more now than I did at the time.

And I don't know why. Maybe he knows where things went wrong after that and the spiral he went down. But he just looks so freaking solid right now. And golf courses, I feel like he can run on here for the remainder of the year. I don't know about how I feel about the open necessarily. But into the fall, I think he's going to keep the gas pedal down. hopefully we need some more better choke down nine irons at the open uh all right number one do you guys know who it is i don't i have no idea god i mean which is thrilling jackson coivan nine people

lukeland back back to back wins for this guy and you guys can't even guess you jina shikara yeah jean chakara is the hottest player in the world mean jean He got into, he's in the open now, open qualifying series because he won the KLM open, which is basically the national open of the Netherlands. And then he won the Italian Open. Two back-to-back national opens. He wasn't eligible for the, for the U.S. Open. And before that, he was playing the Austrian Alpine Open.

So not even a national open. It was a, it's like a geographic feature open. A regional open. Very cool. So not about people are talking about mean gene. He shot 60s. He shot 64 this morning. You know, bogey free, eagled 15.

He was he was five under and four rounds on the 15th hole. And yeah, national opens, man. They matter. And he did it from those protesters in the Netherlands, too. That's, you know, he's going to do it in high pressure situations as well. Let's get him on the team. one comment one question i see walking neman up there on the leaderboard he he might be coming he he had a sneaky good u.s open uh tc i i'm not sending you up i promise but any reason that we know

of why p is not playing these latest national opens well p p did play oh he did play yeah he got thrown out of that got thrown out it was i promise i did not know he was playing i did yeah he finished 45th okay okay okay yeah So he was, he was, he was, uh, he was 16 shots behind Gene. Okay. I mean, Gene won by five. He's dominating. I mean, any questions?

Good golf. No, I like it. I like where you finished. I didn't like how you started. Counting remains tough. Uh, but listen, it's, it's your model. I think the P things are a Jack Reacher. Otherwise, I'm cool with it.

You can, you can always sign up the Fitzpatrick brothers as a package deal. I'm, I'm cool with that. We found the music. Guys, time to check in with our friends at High Noon. T.C.'s may have had too many of these before he created the Fadorah 5 here tonight. Vodka Seltzer, vodka iced tea, tequila seltzer, no matter the occasion. High noon has something for you. I'm on strawberry tequila tonight.

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Yeah. It was a baller. So much. Are you on the whole protein fad right now? Oh, yeah. along with the rest of the world yeah even as atkins fad for sure so the crust was just chicken ground chicken ground chicken seasoned ground chicken you know much protein was in that

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Oh, Speed, messing around with a lab putter earlier this week. It needs it. To not use it. Lost almost four strokes on the green this week. I thought it just might be a time for a little check-in with our boy. The guy to barrel fire this week as he was headed to the

Challenger tour. The speed trackers are melting down everywhere. I mean, just living and dying with every shot. It looks really bad. I saw a couple of track a tracker got locked out on the way back in after the weather delay today. Not good. He's 103rd in putting over the last three months, three months, 86th in approach. Does not have any top 10 since last year's memorial?

I didn't quite realize that. Down to 47th in the day to golf rankings. Are you guys ready to see a mallet? I know it's going to be tough. It's going to be a weird scene. We've only seen Jordan use a blade for almost 12. like what 12 13 14 years now whatever it is uh are you guys in support of this are we are we at this level for sure thousand percent i'm ready to see i feel like this is this is like going from

you know having a couple drinks with the boys to like heroin i think i feel like you know going to a lab like there's there's other mallets on the way to that darkness right i don't think he has to go directly to the lab. I think he should. It is, I mean, all I've heard for the last six months is that he's close. And you know how they say it's always darkest for the dawn? It's always, what's the opposite of that? It's like it's, no, no, Neil, Neil, I'll tell you this.

He was brightest before, before night. Solly was telling us, that's kind of what I'm getting at. It's like, everyone's talking me to how he's like so close. And then now it's like, oh, God, it's all falling apart again. Like, what the fuck happened? Solly was telling us how easy it was to hit fairways this week. Spee hit 31 of 56. And he's been driving.

I've heard that too for the last two months. I know. It's so good, though. That's like, what is he doing well? I don't know what he's doing well. He didn't do anything well this week. He was 70th of the T. He was 48th in approach play.

What was he talking to do about in the range? He was 64th in putting. his swing DNA like getting back to his remember that range thing he did with Dylan golf.com man we felt like we were on to something at the beginning of the year like he was getting back to his swing DNA his templates and it just doesn't seem like yeah to be clear i don't think he's headed to the challenger tour i think he's going to be the top one he's like 53rd i think in the fedex cup as of now it's like It's not a complete disaster. The Challenger tour next year, right? It doesn't start until 28.

Correct. Yeah, but I'm just saying people are being a little dramatic. Like, it's not like he's going to need sponsor exemptions. It's not like that's not what the new setup's going to look like. And I don't think his game's off the planet. And so that's something he has to worry about. It's just like, man, it just for, I guess I'm, I'm far enough into this that I don't remember the last time I felt real serious hope.

I don't remember, I don't remember, like, thinking like this could have, It could happen. The magic could last 72 holes this week. Like maybe two years ago, I think I felt that, you know, all right, it's risk. It's risk related. It's injury related. Once it gets healthy, we're going to be fine. The health is fine.

And it just seems like he just is unstable. The unstable comp is the new unstable compound. And I don't know. I'm kind of, I'm as low as I've been as a speed fanboy. I regret to say. I don't even like think about it anymore. I know. That's the biggest shame.

He's just, he's, he's, he's becoming forgetable, right? Like, it's, it's just not even good enough to get your hopes up anymore. And I feel like that's the worst part. If he goes to a lab, you better start winning. Otherwise, it's just like, not like this, Jordan. Not like this. You know. Yeah, you kind of look through the day to golf, like, I'm just kind of looking down

the tournament breakdowns. And it's like, rarely is there a category that's above a shot gained. But then pretty much every event, there's like a, he was minus 1.02 putting at the U.S. Open. And then he was minus 1.6 approach at Memorial. You know what I mean? It's like there's like a glaring deficiency in a different part of the game. And then everything else is like,

it's like it's above, but not in a big ass way, which is tough. Yeah. When one thing starts going well, the other dips really hard. It just doesn't, I mean,

used to be in world class iron player and putter, which was an awesome combination. I got a very, very, very good combination. And those two almost never seem to work the same direction anymore. Yeah. And the driving's been like slightly plus for most of the season. Yeah.

Outside of Heritage. Uh, but yeah, it's like the superpower has kind of disappeared, which is tough. Yeah. Miss cut at Memorial T56 at the U.S. Open and then this week,

uh, finished T66 out of 72 guys. Um, it was just even par on one of the easiest possible setups you're going to get on the PGA tour. It's just tough. It's tough. Uh,

He is playing the John Deere this coming week. He is. The Quad Cities are a buzz. He's probably going to win this week after all that. Maybe that's what our guy needs. You know, and last thing I'll say, though, is, like, I think what's hard with Jordan is seeing him, like, struggle at places where you have these, like, really good memories. You know, him chipping in at travelers is why it's, like, that, that stings a little worse. So if he goes to John Deere, you know, we've got some good memories from John Deere.

It would just be tough. And he's got good memories of Burkdale, too, Neil. I know. That's what I mean. It's like, you're hoping he finds a happy place. Like you would think he goes to travelers. Like, no, I've won here. I've played well on this golf course. And yeah, it's just that that almost like hurts twice as much.

Interesting. All right. I believe. Last PJ tour note I had, Rory McElroy will fail to meet the minimum required number of events this year on the PGA tour to retain membership. He's going to have, I think, 14 events. The requirement is 15. various reports say the tour can use an extenuating circumstances clause that would let him keep membership without penalty. I'm curious you guys' reaction on this because I'm not even sure I know what my reaction is on this.

And I'm probably just going to go wherever the wind takes me here with whatever you guys got. I feel like we talked about this a little bit postmasters of like, yeah, he's just not going to play very much. And then we talked about it a little bit earlier this week. Like what I think I'm both okay with it, but also like what are the extent? It's just didn't feel like it. It's a bit of a sanctioning with your army situation. And so, yes, he can and will get away with it. It's just kind of, you know.

Hard to be in a meat shield the last five years. Maybe that's the extenuating circumstance, Randy. Save the PGA tour. Those are the extenuating circumstances. Yeah, he earned it, which is like, yeah, I'm not going to make a big deal out of this, but it is, you know, like, yeah, sanction me, bitches. come on yeah i think the extenuating circumstances we wanted to be super prepared for the majors

uh was playing at burkdale this past week couldn't possibly be a travelers you know was playing it taking the flights up to play the masters um maybe there is our extenuating circumstances i don't i don't we don't we don't know that for sure um other than maybe it's a transition year with his move to london and i i i don't know i i agree like philosophically with the thought of yeah he kind of helped save the pGA tour and like if he needs a make good of some kind the tour probably owes him more than than he owes the tour at this point but it also seems like a weird like you couldn't got got one more event in like for better for us you kind of did send the tour down this path that that they're on then the signature event model and and

what you know towards the even if you don't love the next model like that's kind of what you helped bridge the tour too it's like i i i don't know on one side it's like yeah just kind of play the 15 man like the tour's kind of count on you with that but question uh i'm back and forth on that because he has given a shit load yeah like yeah i don't you know i don't care about this the no what i do care about is will this 15 tournament uh minimum be required in the new that's kind of where i was going and i don't think it will be because i think it's going to be kind of like a hey we're playing for big money here i'm guessing the fedex cup stuff will be to be like, yo, if you don't play in these events,

you're going to miss out on a big payday at the end of the year, potentially. Like, it may be they align the incentives to, like, get them to play a minimum amount of events, if that makes sense. Yeah. I don't know that, but that's my question. It's like even, all right, skipping the first leg of the playoffs as he's done in the past should render you ineligible for the season long bonus. But that's not in the bylaws.

Like, they would need to change things now. in the future to do that. So I think as it stands right now, it's just like 15 at, 15 of the Traveler, Sally. They just got to fix it. They got perverse incentives in place. And it's, you know,

it's not what's great for the tour. And I think, like, I doubt Rory's going to play 15 events next year either. But, you know, I also think he would be okay with that tradeoff between quality of life and not making as big of a bonus at the end of the year. And there's chat about, you know, he's a lifetime member.

Does he need the 15? And I, the language around that gets complicated. Like, you know, lifetime membership. I saw Bob Herrick chiming in on this. Billy Horsal was weighing in on this. I think it, I think he, Cody just sent through the tweet, but he said, my understanding is once Rory met the lifetime membership threshold. If he didn't play 15 events, he lost his voting rights for the upcoming year.

and he may have an issue getting unlimited conflicting event releases. You can't lose PJ tour membership if he doesn't meets the minimum. Herring chimed in to say lifetime membership for home tour guys means age 45, you get a reduction to 12 events. That's the wording. Happened to Kimer in 15. I don't know. That's where it gets like,

I don't think, he's not playing off the lifetime member status. Again, the regulation shouldn't be the tax code. Masters. Yeah. Like this is part of the whole issue with the tour right now. It's like it shouldn't be a tax code to figure out what, which, where you rank on the tour. And as much as I am like, yeah, whatever, Rory's has earned kind of earned the right to do what he wants.

It does become like, well, if you're not going to enforce against him, how are you going to enforce it against anybody after this? You know, unless you can point to specific, you know, extenuating circumstances, you potentially run into that problem in the future. But that's somebody else's problem. It's not ours. And it's tough when they're going to pitch their new model and try to get. a new media rights deal done and all right you don't have tiger rory's going to play sparingly uh state side and scotty doesn't seem interested in in the match play final and other stuff so it's it's you know it's like you got to develop some new stars here and quickly i think or get to see

if roll out to work the votes over the next year do you see kind of what you know kind of house majority leader, is he? Yeah. Anything else on PGA tour? Are we ready to get to Hazeltine? Real quick, I'm going to get out ahead of this. I'm worried about Ludwig's potter.

He was bad this week with the new putter in place. I don't know. We're monitoring it. He's getting some leeway. Let's get him on some link screens over at Burkdale,

a little bit less slope in him and see how he does. But I feel like he almost needs just a hard reset. 67th out of 72 in putting this week. Finished tie for 55th. Kim Young of note. Is he a dog on the green, Sally? Like a, which one?

A good kind? Yeah, just a dog on the greens. I think you might have rabies on the greens. And I was trying to set you up, but. Neil's like, go back door. Go back door. Go back door. I'm kidding.

Try to throw the, like the lab. draw D-Wade Oop right there and you just fucking... A dog on the greens to me is something that's tough that makes I don't know. I just take it wherever you want. Just fucking score. You can lay it in. You can jelly. You don't have to jam it. I also let's say

Cam Young was 65th in putting this week. I'll finish it. It's high for 47. I don't think he's turning into a pumpkin yet. But we're monitoring that situation as well. It has not been good in recent months here into the summer. And speaking of wish, Neil, summer golf season is here. Our closets are looking a lot like the Roeback website right now.

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All right. Neil. Randy, you want to take us up to Minnesota? I do. Before we get started, are we going to say Hayd-on or Hay-Ron? I want to say with a D. I'm going to say Hayd-on. Hay-on-Rue.

it's a D but then Sali makes you roll your R as well with the D and it's just the whole thing No you got mad at me for saying it with the D and so now I say it properly by rolling the R and now you're mad at that Meanwhile Randy says hey Ranh Rue and you don't get mad at that I don't think I've ever said that

Okay We're off to a hot start head on you head on you go with that Okay she wins the KPMG women's PGA at Hazeltine really good performance. Just quick play by play. She went into today's round with a one-shot lead over Brooke Henderson.

She had a two-shot lead over 36-hole leader, Ina Yun, three shots over Davey Weber and Aelim Kim, and four shots over Nellie Korda and Allison Lee. Of course, Nellie Korda going for her third consecutive major championship to begin 2026. Guys, there was a three-and-a-hour weather delay before the start of the fourth round, Drenched City, USA. But luckily, the wind was up this afternoon.

I feel like the test ended up being somewhat proper. It was pretty good. We can talk about Hazeltine in just a couple of minutes. Nellie got off to a shaky start. I mean, let's be serious. Nellie is the story of the season. She was the story today. Unfortunately, she bogeed her first,

she bogeed her first hole and then she bogeed three of her first five holes she did have a birdie in there but when it was all sudden done she dropped all the way to five under which at the time was like six shots back of the leaders she did rally a little bit she birdied six and seven and then number 10 to get up to eight under par and a tie for fourth at that point it looked like she might just be making that back nine charge unfortunately that would not materialize okay It was really, well, on the front line, Davy Weber, 210-ranked player in the world, kind of out of nowhere, has never had a good major championship. She found herself after eagling the seventh hole up briefly in the solo lead. Hadon Rue and Brooke Henderson and each bogeed to drop to nine under par, Weber alone at 10 under. She quickly gave those two shots back.

She bogeed her eighth and ninth holes. And so really it kind of crystallized the tournament crystallized around Hayd-on-Rue and Brooke Henderson. There was a great exchange. They both birdied the ninth hole and the tenth hole. Hadron Rue had also birdied the seventh hole. So as they went to 11, Hayron Roo was 12 under par, one clear of Brooke Henderson at 11 under par. And then Ina Yun of South Korea was in third, three shots back at nine under par. Nellie's tournament, I think it really collapsed on the par four-twelfth.

She three-putted from about 64 feet. She fell back to seven under par, and at the time that was five shots back of head-on-roo. So it really wasn't super dramatic. Roo birdied the 12th. That got her to 13 under. That's where she would stay for the rest of the round. And Brooke Henderson bogeed the 14th hole. She drove it left, found some nasty rough, could not make her par.

That dropped her to 10 under par. And really, that was it until the 18th. I guess there was a bit of drama. You had Davey Weber, birdied 17 to get to 11 under. And at that same time, Haddon Rue had a 7.5 foot par put to stay at 13 under on the 16th hole. She cashed that, no problem. the final leaderboard, Ina Yun actually birded the 18th. So Hayd-on-Roo wins it at 13 under.

Ina-un is solo second, 11 under par. And then you had a tie for third, Davy Weber of the Netherlands and Brooke Henderson, both at 10 under-par. And then you had to go quite a few shots, I think down to 7 under par where you begin tied for fifth. So, hey, Ron Rue, a little bit about her 25 years old, South Korea. This was her first major championship victory. It's her fourth LPGA tour victory.

I think the interesting thing about her, a couple of things. One, she's just coming back from, as she described, quote, tiny minor surgery back in Korea. It was, she never told us what exactly the surgery was, but it kept her out about four or five weeks. She missed the U.S. Women's Open. It was having a pretty good year prior to that. she is like first in ball striking on the LPGA tour she is plus 3.11 strokes gain T to green according to the KPI KPMG insights coming into this week it was her putter she's losing about 1.22 shots per round with her putter coming into this week but she's just a phenomenal ball striker

she putted pretty well this week made a putter change that I don't know if it's just kind of that new feel honeymoon phase. We'll see as the year rolls on. But now this is, she was, I should mention, she was the LPGA rookie of the year in 2023. She's now won tournaments in each of her four seasons on the LPGA tour. And she's just, she's just super solid ball striker. So I guess, guys, any reaction to this?

And let me ask you a question to maybe frame it. South Korea notoriously very strong women's golf. They produce a lot of players, a lot that we've heard of, and quite honestly, a lot that play on the Korean LPGA tour. We'll see them maybe once or twice a year in some of these majors, but they litter the top 50 in the world. My question to you, Hayeron Rue, by virtue of winning today, getting her first major,

kind of feels like she might be at the top of the heap in terms of South Korean women at the moment. I think, you know, Joju Kim currently ranked third in the world would certainly be in the conversation. Inji Chun, three-time major winner, would, you know, she kind of shows up just at the majors.

And Say Young Kim, I think, are the competition. But curious what you saw from Hayron and any, you know, any takes. We can roll in some Hazeltine reaction too because I think that's going to be a topic of conversation. Yeah, she was the fourth biggest favorite on the board behind Nellie, Ronnie Yen, and Gino. She was in the group with Mia Yamashida, Hannah Green, and H.J. Kim.

So kind of right in their same odds as H.J. heading into this week. But yeah, H.J. kind of vacates the premises in major championships, at least recently. Had a great kind of starts in the year, but it'll for it. Yeah, she ain't really about that life. And, but with head on you, it, it, it seemed like she's been in the conversation a lot of these majors. And I'm just like, trying to look for her top major finishes have not been great. I don't know if it's been bad Sundays. I didn't really dig into it that much, but a super talented player that we hear a ton about was LPGA rookie of the year.

And just, it has been like, all right, somebody we talk about leading up into all these things without a ton of detail. But like, when are you going to make that leap? Made the leap today. I mean, it was a statement, man. She is awesome today on a day when a lot of people were going backwards, shot a, you know, 64, 68, 70. She was 10 shots back after day one, which is like a record.

I forget what the actual record was there, but being 10 shots back after day one and winning comfortably on Sunday and got better as the weather got more challenging. It was excellent, excellent, excellent performance. And a little, you know, little disappointing from Nellie, of course, but it's really hard to be disappointed with her overall record for the year so far. Yeah, I thought the being 10 shots back on Thursday, like course was playing hard on Thursday too.

The 63 from Ina Youn kind of came out of nowhere. Eni Yun had the Kenny Wayne Shepherd look going today. With more sponsor logos than I've ever seen, T.C. I mean, three on the back of the jersey. Like this is, you know, we're, we're, We're pushing new boundaries here with the patches. Something. She's got a little bit of a checkered.

I think HJ has got four or five on the back, including the pant leg. I think H.J. It's a tight race for the NASCAR award on the LPGA right now. I know you and a little bit of a, I don't want to say, call it checkered history, but not the, not a sterling reputation with the rules over in Korea.

She had a multi-year suspension. right Randy? Yeah, apparently for playing the wrong ball, which in and of itself is like, at first I was like, Jesus, is that like,

you know, who among us? Who among us? I know. Is this Riyadh? You're going to cut her hand off? They take it seriously. But I think the real issue was she,

like, tried to pass it off. Like, she didn't report it right away. You know, like she just kept going and, and essentially tried to cheat by, like,

making sure, like, nothing happened here. So that's bad. But yeah, Randy and I had a checker. They talked about the wrong ball incident. They said that she.

I was going to say they talked about the broadcast a little bit. And they said that she, yeah, she didn't report it, but she also missed the cut in that event, which is just like, huh, oh,

you know what I mean? It's just like, man, was that worth it? Like, that's tough. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I was like, Randy, I, I, I hit the wrong ball at PGA Frisco. Last year in the club championship. that's right

self-reported it yes TC writing that wrong right away yeah right in the moment I think looking at other stuff I think Nellie like I watched a lot of the first two rounds of this

Nellie had it rolling in the first round she she was one over through four and then she rattled off like five birdies in I don't know nine or ten holes and she was kind of like it was like

oh shit this is happening And then she like 16's like maybe the only distinctive whole with any semblance of personality or character at hazelteen like kind of downhill par four lake to the right creek to the left and Nellie rinsed one in the creek made double and it felt like the air kind of went out of the balloon that day on that she ended up shooting 70 and played well round too but I feel like if that like if she doesn't rinse that she's you know she's probably shooting 67 or 68 and then another and then she shot 68 in round two and and it got hard and it just seemed like it was a really difficult course to chase on like there

just wasn't a whole lot of birdies to be a hat out there it's you know it's a there's a lot of long par fours it's a brute the um it was windy you know obviously wet after the rain as well they had some rain earlier in the week too so uh gosh i just i just i just i I cannot emphasize enough. I know the PGA of America has new leadership. Please blow this place up and start over and just like re, just reimagine Hazeltine because it's such a good blank canvas for, you know,

it's a great golf market. Yeah. Minnesota is a great golf market. Twin Cities, you've got massive corporations there, very knowledgeable fans, passionate. It's a massive piece of land.

you got all the parking on site there ingress and egress are easy uh and it's and it's a club that wants to host big tournaments uh it just needs to be a better golf course and uh and yeah like a lot better and there's been several proposals on the table for the last 20 years or so and they were supposed to be doing it over the last few years and they and they you know i guess Carrie Hague and the PGA of America came in and said, no, you're not, you know, like, we know how to operate at this place as it is right now, and you're not going to change this. And that's just such a bummer because it's, you know, like it truly impacts an experience in like a tournament like this to where this felt like it should have been more of an opportunity for the women.

And Beth Ann had a great, a great piece today, which we can get into. But yeah, like this just kind of felt like a whiff. And it's like we're supposed to get excited about the tournament. because the purse is really high, but that just doesn't seem to be translating. Yeah, Raine and I went to this tournament in 2019. We also went to it in 2018 when I was at Kemper Lakes. And when it was going to Hazeltine, it was like, what a massive step up, right?

From where this championship was. There was momentum. I think the purse was like three or four million bucks. And that was the highest it had ever been. And like that was the big news that week. And it was very clear, like the signal of what KPMG was invested. in this tournament, which still rings true today. Like now the purse is $13 million.

It's a completely insane purse for like what it delivers from a media standpoint and an interest standpoint. Coming back seven years later, it doesn't quite feel like it has the same momentum just in the fact that Hazeltine, I think this event or the women's game with PJ of American, I don't know who to kind of put the blame on is kind of too far down the track of just bringing this tournament to golf courses, the men play, which is something I've heard a lot with this event, of like, we want to play with the men play.

We want to go to Baltis Raul. We want to go to Eranimic, you know, Frisco, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it just is a characterless golf course. Like, it is, it's nothing. There's no unique features to it at all. There's nothing in the way. It's, it's Torrey Pines of the Midwest.

I mean, it's just bunkers on sides of the fairways. No interesting strategic. There's no interest in the greens. It's just, it needs completely blown up. But it has everything you said, like has great viewing all around. It has easy routes in and around it.

And great fan turnout this week. I mean, especially considering the weather this morning, I thought it would be a ghost town out there. And it's not a golf. So there's some golf courses that, like going to RIV and watching that play to the women's scale was awesome. Like there was an intrigue to that of like,

I'm curious how the scale. if their game fits this golf course, there's none of that at Hazelty. And the game did not get more interesting. Like watching the women play it was not more interesting than watching. Probably less interesting. Yeah, it really kind of just was a, just a,

it's just, there's a case to be made like the course doesn't matter at all. And it's just golf and it's a stage. Like, I don't believe that. Of course, we spend most of our time on this podcast, I'm about stuff like this.

But if that's the case, Hazeltine's totally fine for a lot of the reasons we just said. But for those of us that really like to see, challenging golf courses, interesting golf courses with tournaments on it, Hazeltine's got to change dramatically. It's a, I did look up the master plan. It's called Vision 2040. I thought it was a joke, but it really is called Vision 2040.

It's a long time for a golf redo. It was like a lot of time. It's a putting course. I think it was supposed to be Vision 2030 or Vision like 2025, but it just kept getting pushed and pushed and pushed. But I mean, I think even looking at like looking at 18 today, there's corporate hospitality just lining the whole thing and it's like even if you took your kid out there to watch it like you're not getting anywhere near 18 green yeah no there was you could stand in front like that it looked like there was plenty of places for people to stand around 18 like the hospital is raised a little bit and you could you could get in between that and the ropes it looked like i saw i saw several rose deep of people there but like i just look at a tournament was you could always see what you wanted to see especially when we were there in you were in you were in you were in you were in you were in you were in you were in you were in you it was like holy shit man you can walk up to the ropes and see literally anything you want

i thought that way at atlantic club too yeah like that's not i wouldn't say i would say it would be a fantastic on-site viewing experience like i've all you know said that a million times like lpGA is where it's at if you want to see live golf it felt like a really big build out as well i'm like bigger than it was in previous years there and it doesn't seem to be it seems like they're throwing a lot of money at this and I don't know if it's being well spent at some point. I thought Beth Ann had a really good piece today in Golf Week about it. Maybe pointing the finger at the LPGA tour a little bit too much and not enough at the PGA of America since they're the ones that own and operate this event.

Yeah, I think so the crux of Beth Ann's piece and it's just out today is the LPGA. And she said the LPGA. And yeah, Trond to your point, like we're kind of talking about. talking about the PGA of America's women's PGA championship. Excuse me, women's PGA championship here. But her thing was like, I think women's golf in general, they should make their brand like the most family-friendly event, sporting event that you can go to. Right. And she cited some very high concession prices.

You know, you're paying whatever, call it 50, 60 bucks for a ticket. You're paying for parking. And then, you know, what are you going to bring kids and pay, you know, $11 each for a hot dog? And, you know, you're just spending a ton of money. The purse is going up. It's great that the purse is going up. But as a fan, I think we are definitely in the area of diminishing returns where it's like, yeah, we had to get some of these purses, especially from the, from I always thought our national organizations, the USGA and the PGA of America, specifically. like they have to be more in line with what the men play for.

And I think we've gotten there. But as a fan at home, as a fan on site, what can you do to make it a better experience? I think that's really where the issue now is going to lie. And not only with this event, but probably with a lot of the LPGA tour stops. I think, Saul, you made a very good point about when I was at Halaleteen in 2019. It was fun. It was fresh. It was new to me.

It felt great. I think KPMG has done a lot over the last seven, eight years to push the women's game and to push, you know, the other majors to catch up. And I feel like the other majors have caught up specifically the USGA and the U.S. Women's Open. And now I think the AIG women's open, the RNA, have gotten to a point where if you look at the venues, you look at the buildouts, you look at the Brock. Podcast packages, they've probably gone ahead now of where this tournament is. And I think it's incumbent on the leadership to do something about it, for lack of a better term. I mean, it's just tough. Coming off Riviera and the U.S. Women's Open and Primetime, it's like this event had none of that juice.

Like, I think store brand U.S. Women's Open would almost be too high of a compliment for what it was. Of course, you had Nellie, you had a wonderful storyline. But yeah, it's just the problem is too. You look at the venues like next year they're going to congressional. They have Frisco back on the calendar. It's like the PG of America's venues just aren't nearly what the USGA is dealing with. So that's a long-term issue too. To be a lot of the men's side, man.

Yeah. Same story. I'm surprised on the concessions though, you know, on the men's side there, the food's included. Well, Beth Ann gave a great example. She's like, hey, like look at last week, the Meyer, LPGA in Grand Rapids. There's 60, 70,000 people out there for that. They had 30 food trucks and it was, you know, like you can do it all you can eat thing and, you know, kind of like just be creative, be inventive, be, you know, and I think also like Randy, to your point, like

the leaders, you know, notwithstanding the weather delay today, the leaders were supposed to go off at 930 local time in three. In three sums off split teas. Like let's get real. Like, like, let's get real. Like, like, that's, that's insulting. And, uh, and again, I don't blame, I don't blame KPMG for this. Like, PGA of America, NBC. And the Pua Kukuwa watershed of Maui. Like the, the, the Maui event going away meant, uh, NBC picked up this as a signature event, which put it up against travelers, almost in the same time zone. And then they had to move travelers four to seven and, and, and this one to four on NPC, if you want to be on network.

It just screams lower budget. Like, you turn on the U.S. women's open a couple weeks ago. And to me, it felt commensurate with what a major golf championship should be, right, in all those facets.

And I think this week it just fails to, well, to hit that mark. Well, PG of America, and I'm generalizing this, and I'm sure there is plenty of the PG of America does for this event. But like,

they make KPMG do everything. Like, it's KPMG. event. Like they're the ones that put all the effort into everything and do everything with the, you know, all the money that they put into it and they make them like buy the TV hours basically off NBC. Like PG of America does the food thing for free at the PJ championship because they make money off that, which they don't make money off this event, I'm sure. And they treat it that way. It's just like, sure, KPMG you can do whatever you want, but like we're going to put minimal effort

in. If this event's going to be good at all, it's going to come from you and out of your pockets. So it's it's just funny too to see like like you know Nathan Carnes was up there giving the trophy away and all that and like him and and Don Ray and Eric Escherman they were they were like a three like a three package deal like those three got got vote like that was the succession plan for the PGA of America. So for Don to get like voted out like I don't know how you don't just totally reset the table. and just say, hey, you know what, we're bringing a whole new crop of potential candidates to run our, to help run our organization here instead of just keeping going with the same, same guys that have been going for the last, you know, that was like the succession plan already. Like, I would have just blown up anything to do with, with that succession plan. I think the other weird thing about this event was just how many good players missed the cut. Like, you look at Hannah Green, she played, I mean, she, she, she won here last time it was there.

she she she shot 72 74 uh minji lee missed the cut 71 75 rio tecata um charlie hull like that was a talking point amongst our podcast well no my questions what are we are we doing stuff or not i guess not yeah laudy yeah uh laudy wode missed the cut uh jena kim's been playing well she missed the cut so it just seems like there's i don't know if this is you know me just breeding into this too much but i feel like we see more no-shows on the women's side than we do on the men's side at the majors like there's just less consistency this is interesting tc because you you at you kind of posed that and i went and looked small data set but i i started at 2025 and the men the top 10 the amount of top 10 players in the world to miss a cut at the men's majors uh was like

19 over now seven majors since the beginning of 2025. And the women over eight majors have been 24 top 10 players that week that have missed the cut. And that's what Bryson basically blowing up the men's side. I was going to, well, the 2025 men's PGA had six of those miscuts. So that that kind of skewed it. So I think there is a little bit more volatility, at least of late on the women's side. I think that speaks to, you know, like Nelly quite clearly did not have her A game, maybe outside of that stretch on Thursday, T.C. of like six holes.

But still to fight and finish Tide for A, I think if anything, disappointing that she didn't win and can't continue this major run. But I think it speaks to like Nellie, even in some of her off weeks, instead of missing a cut or finishing tied for 50th, she's still tied for eighth. and has an outside look on the weekend. To me, that's just very impressive. She got within two of the back night today. She made a run.

I just think she's on a different level, week in and week out, and that's becoming quite clear over this season. And I think overall, she just seems, I don't know if it's additional maturity or just being more comfortable in the spotlight. She seems like more comfortable in her own skin this year. I know she stuck around today and like signed autographs for kiddos.

And it just seems like she's at peace with where she's at in the game versus, you know, being a little bit, you know, just still getting used to it, I guess, last year. She's engaged, you know. It's sappy, but, you know, you find happiness outside of golf and hopefully that translates a little bit onto the golf course. Hey, well, so. Speaking of sappiness, though, we haven't any. even mentioned, like, the news of the week. Brooke Henderson.

Real quick before you go to. Before you go to Brooke, T.C., because there's a lot of talk there, and then we're going to go into coverage and everything. And I just want to say, also very, very proud of Nellie and how she performed because she was given multiple opportunities to just blow out of there and just be like, you know what, this isn't my week. I'm done. I think a lot of that goes to not so much Hazeltine in the course you guys.

touched on that already. But some just really weird decisions set-up-wise. And I think that led to some weird strategy decisions, both yesterday and today, that I don't think, again, we're kind of in this place where we talk about the LPGA tour, their major championships and how they set up their golf courses. And I don't know if they're setting them up to kind of, I don't want to say give one certain part of their golf game. an advantage.

But this golf course was never set up for a Nelly Corr like to go out and dominate. And it brought a lot more people into the fold, which I think is good. And that's what you want from players. But when you have no advantage, you know, when you take a long ball out of somebody's hand and basically suck all these par fours down into like you can hit a three wood if you want or you can hit a four iron. It's not really a matter because you're either going to have a 90-yard wedge or a 30 yard wedge into it.

And it became kind of like an Oakmont putting contest. And it was just survival. And there was a bunch of weather mixed in there. And I know it's been super dry. And then they got a ton of rain. The end of last week into this week. I just don't know if the setup wise is what led to the leaderboard that a lot of people wanted.

People wanted to see Nellie, you know, get her third one. And that obviously isn't the case. and she's the one that needed to hit the shots and make the putts. But on the flip side of it, there's so much more here that I think it is going to be like just washed over, if that makes sense at all. Yeah, it was just kind of dull golf. It just wasn't, it wasn't like set up for excitement in any way.

I think I remember when they were at Kemper Lakes, or any one of the days, they had 10 par fours between 390 and 400 yards. Like I just, I don't know if Carrie Hague is, man, is, is super. I feel like it's it's got to actually be harder to set up like I think it's easier to set up a short golf course like or shorter golf course that's with that with like good architecture because you know hey what's being asked here I think this one seems like there's bunkers to be in the right place for them yeah exactly and this is just not a very well designed golf course and there's not a clear strategy on a lot of the holes and there's it's no wider in a lot of spots and yeah And it's just one of those things to where, like, we could either set this up at 6,800 yards or 6,6, 5.50, but, like, there's no, there's no rhyme or reason to one or the other at a place like this versus at a, you know, at a course that's, like, that's why I think that's such a missed opportunity for them to go to great golf courses that can't host the men anymore. Like, that's the whole fucking point.

Like you have such an opportunity here and yet you're going to like the most characterless slogs ever like Beth Page and Hazeltine and congressional and Frisco. It sucks. It's crazy too. And you just look at the the total yardage set up for the day and you're like, oh, okay, so we shorten a couple par fours. We're playing 16, you know, far up today. So we got to add some yardage somewhere else to make it seem easy. So we just add it to a par five, which they're already playing as a three shot hole anyway. Nobody can. nobody can do anything yeah it was a lot of layups today that's what i noticed too was just a lot a lot of so they made the like grass it was like we're not challenging the layup it's like oh yeah that area cool just grass anyway brook well real quick real quick we mentioned at hateron ru and sallie i i did want to just go back she was actually the third round leader at the chevron both in

24 and 25 and I believe shot 74 one of those days and 76 the other day. So she had been in a position to potentially, you know, win a major and I kind of shit the bed. So her first time closing the deal. That makes sense because I feel like I've heard like, I was like, man, like she, she's won one of these before, right? Like it's felt like she's been in the mix a lot for like her stature was more than just what her resume would suggest. Yeah. But the big news of this week, Brooke Henderson, she is an aunt. I don't know if we've ever squeezed more mileage out of somebody being an aunt or uncle before.

Like I get, she and her sister are close, but God, it just, and I don't know if this is a problem with the broadcasts or quite honestly, like a problem with Brooke where, like is that all is that all the interesting stuff you can tell us about brook you know is there anything more than that I just felt like it was the crutch of the broadcast but we bring her coach on to talk about

how much freaking lag she has in her dad oh my god I mean her golf swings like fascinating when they put the slowbo on her but then you want something more for her it's just nothing they god do she drops her hand it's like

it's just It's a, it's a, it's a awesome swing. It was her first tournament as an aunt that they said at one point. They came back to it one final time on the 72nd hole. I couldn't, couldn't believe it. You know the facts that lead up to this, though. I mean, she's a, she's a prior KPMG winner. Sure.

She's a KPMG sponsored athlete. At the tournament last year in Frisco was the first event that they actually announced that her sister was pregnant. so she couldn't carry the golf bag in practice rounds. Somebody else had to carry it in practice rounds so she could save her energy for on the course. And then they named the kid Sahali. I mean,

it's a title sponsor's dream situation going on. Get work the ant stuff in. That's all we're asking. Just a truly mixed week for KPMG with that. And then you've got Mickelson on the other side. KPMG dropped him, right? Yeah. I did.

I sent this in our Slack, though, Biggie, you touch on it a little bit. But I have this feeling watching Brooke Anderson that's like, you know, she does have a cool swing. And she was the first one that like kind of got mad when they put the driver length when they brought it to 46 inches because she played one that was super long and just whips it. And I'm like, there always has to be something there. And you don't know anything about her. She's been on tour for so long.

She doesn't really talk. She doesn't give interviews. She doesn't do podcasts or anything else like that. and you have this feeling that like, God, there's got to be something else there. And you're like, no, that's it, man. She's just Aunt Brooke now. She's been on our podcast. She's been on.

Well, I know, but it's like even she's not opening up about like what else is going on in kind of life or her game or anything. I was going to say for a 14 time winner, two-time major champion, been on tour for over 10 years. Like, I know that her sister used to caddy for her. I know that she's Canadian and the Canadians love her. I guess her boyfriend now is a minor league baseball player, but there's yeah, it's like, God, let us in a little bit, you know? I wish, I wish there was a little bit more there. We were getting carried away as it finished. We said, Hey, Dad, you should grab her after the, but hold out.

You're going to be a tremendous, hey, it. Oh, you want some other notables quickly down the board? Sure. Three of Americans finished tied for fifth, Allison Corpus. Allison Lee really, you know, falls up a really good U.S. Open week with another strong week this week. Austin Kim, they're all tied for fifth and that seven undergroup. Nelly, Gino, Gino's the ultimate backdoor wiki yellow this week. She and Say Young Kim, they were all tied for eighth at six under.

Gabby Lopez continuing a strong 2026. She and Mew Yamashita were at 5 under, tied for 12th. Lydia Coe was shot back at them tied for 15th. And then I just, Ronning Yin was somebody I thought would have a much better week. She and Patty T. and Maya Stark were all tied for 37th at one over par. I did want to give a quick shout out. NBC did a pretty good job. But Nicole, I think it's Fauci, was the only one of the Corbridge team of club professionals

to make the cut. She's the first female club pro to make a cut in this event since 2019. So really, really good playing by her. She's at a countryside country club in Florida, just 21 years old. So hell of a week for her. Love that.

Carolina Chikara, sibling of a Fedora 5 member, Mean Jean, sister? That's right. Yeah. How about that? Gene. I guess last thing, real quick, I'm going to set this line.

I think Hayron Rue, I don't think she's done with this major. I'm setting the over under career majors at two and a half right now. Curious what you guys would take. You should have left it open for Neil to set first. Yeah, it's my shit, Randy. Come on. No, I need all those for Delly. I'm going under.

Yeah, I'm saying I'm going under. I can't. I can't be giving. in any way. Three's a lot. Three's a lot. I know three's a lot. I think she'll be one more. It's hard to stress how good of a ball striker she is. Like she said 80% of her greens this year on tour. What's that like? According to her catty. No, I think the green could be a coach with her swing coach trying to make her ball striking look better.

I think she. I don't need this, Mike. This is still a problem. I can't believe Brady's I just don't know what to do in my hand. I think she'd be minus odds to go over one and a half and she would be minus odds to go under two and a half. I think like that would be, uh, two would be a real nice number. Recency bias.

I think I'm going over. I just, I love watching her swing the golf club. I just don't know if it had really registered with me or if it was just seeing her under the gun again. I'm very, very impressed. Randy, there's people I love watching, swimming the golf club too

that doesn't mean they're going to win no I know I know but I'm sticking my neck out I'm going over I'm bullish I love it big TC what do you think about Davy Weber's chances to make the Solheim Cup team they're up better than the word I like she was that fist pump on 17

I was like yeah hell yeah like I like her game get her on the team TC maybe she could be in the what was her what's her Swedish lady's name? Oh

Big Who are you talking about? Who are we talking about? From Solheim This is... Oh, the one that was charging. Yeah. Oh, God, you put me on this spot.

It is... Heck, Carolyn, no. That headwall. She's a, Headwall, Caroline Headwall.

All start. Yeah, we need it. Like a headwall. We need a, you know, a spiritual leader. We can hide until. God,

remember what she bawled out, Randy on that last day in Spain? That was unbelievable. One of the best rounds of golf I've ever, I will ever see. I can't wait to, Sunday in Spain. We're going to the Solheim later this year.

I can't wait to show you guys around and try to get you to name, to pronounce the names of these towns. Davey Weber's from Khornchen, which is like the actual way to say that one, which is like one of the easier names to say than compared to some of the other ones up there. But up in the north of the Netherlands, which is,

it gets very, very quickly. I don't even understand how her name's Davy. Instead of, I was thought it was Dewey. Do we? So W's are Vs and E's are like A sounds basically. that's how. To answer the question, I think you got a pretty good shot there.

You got Mel Reed assistant captain following her all weekend. And when they brought it up on 18, I was like, wow, if she would have made that putt for par, I think it would have been a lock. I think that's how much Mel now believes in her and is a fan. And if you look at the European team, there's just not a lot there. No, there's not.

But like low-key team USA, there's not a ton there either right now. I mean, she had a T9 at the Ford Championship, which is like a free crack giveaway. And otherwise, her best finish of the year was T40 at the shop, right? That's where it feels like one of these things

were a couple months from now, we're going to remember this, whether or not she made that put. She's 210 in the world. Yeah, yeah, it's a maybe. Anything else from KPMG before we get this. Well, I'll just say Davey Weber made $750,000 this week. and I think now in her career, that's like half of now her total career earnings.

She's 30 years old, has been on the LPGA tour several years. She made 116,0.11 starts this year before that. So she, how did she get in this event? I don't know. It's a deep feel. All right, moving on. I don't know how to transition into this one. some maybe probably the biggest golf news of the week

Alan shipped Cody Cody signs away for this one I got a managing tabs I'll stay Alexin and boners Yeah actually Neil how much have to have you read this first part If you don't mind a film Nicholson expose Dropped on scratch from Alan Shipnuck Amongst many things alleged there He says in 2015 at the Barclays

Phil Mickelson, Ashley Perez, and Pat Perez. We're drinking wine one night. Long story leading up into that. But the juice of it, I guess, is when Pat excused himself to go to the restroom, Ashley says, Mickelson took out his phone, showed her a full body picture of himself naked with an erection while flexing one bicep. Claims Ashley tells Ashley, Phil says to me, I'm going to leave my bedroom door open tonight when Pat falls asleep.

I want you to come see me. Alan Shibnick also listened to a 26 minute phone call that included Phil apologizing to Pat for what he did. Also including the story is some of the details around Phil leaving the Madison Club via demand from Amy because of allegedly women that were involved in this condo there. Phil would make a story that has long been rumored and Shipnick got the actual reporting and details behind this. Phil would give his phone to somebody in the pro shop at the bridges. one of his clubs pay the guy $500 to drive it around the course for three to four hours while Phil had an affair with alleged affair or rendezvous, I believe is the word he used alleged rendezvous with a member's wife who lived on the course. He would also just throw his phone in the cart with members. He's also no longer a member there.

This is on top of the incident that was reported by Golf Digest from him at the farms recently. Anything I missed in there. No, we'll throw it to big. What say you? You know, in all seriousness, if I can be serious for a minute, massive, massive Phil Mickelson guy, if anybody has listened to this podcast through the years, I think the saddest thing is I read this article

and I didn't feel much. I think over the last however many years, I kind of made peace with the fact that this guy isn't who I necessarily thought he was. He wasn't certainly who he has tried to present himself as. And yeah, I, I, what's the cliche, you know, that the opposite of love is not hate, it's apathy, you know. And I think that's what I found myself feeling. It's as you read all this now, it's like, I'm not mad.

I don't care. I'm out on him. And I feel like I have been out. It's, it's been a slow build. And now this is just kind of the final. straw that that broke the camel's back i'll always treasure you know i i still love the 2004 masters i you know that the crushing u.s open defeats there's a lot of great golf memories that i have and i'll always have but that that part of my golf fandom is over and i yeah it's just it's sad for me on a

personal level i think and not to mention i'm i'm sad for phil and amy and that whole family like it's just it's not good man i i i think phil's um got to do a lot of soul searching got to do a lot of reckoning what what what do you want to be who do you want to be uh is this going to define you i don't know we'll see i feel like the cat's kind of out of the bag on that one though right like like this is what defines them at this point yeah i don't know where you go from here yeah but it's kind of crazy around like is he going to be in public life going for he's where's he going to be playing golf one two is kind of going to be out of media based on how the last several years have gone i don't know where we're going to see phil

that's the crazy part is like you would like he was you know he was a surefire guy that like he he wanted to be in the spotlight and he would have been a perfect guy to be a commentator you know commentator an analyst um to me the craziest part is A, like, Pat and Ashley, like, what a perverse world that we live in that Pat and Ashley Perez look like. And they both hate each other now. They've had the most acrimonious divorce possible that, like, both of them look like sympathetic characters after everything that's happened over the last four or five years. And, like, virtually every rumor that or whisper that we've heard of, you know, whether it's the Madison Club thing or the, you know, the, you know, the, you know, handed a. his phone to an assistant pro or, you know, a greenskeeper at, at the bridges or, you know,

like the, like horrific allegations from, uh, was it the farms, right? That's his other one. They're like, like, all of that stuff. It's like, almost every single one of them has come out and like, he's been like good on chip knock for like, I mean, this takes extensive reporting in Cajonets and backup and fact checking and just legal cover as well like hey you better be damn sure you got this thing nailed down if you're gonna if you're gonna roll with something like that and it's it's just crazy that like

nearly every rumor that we've heard over the last three years regarding Mickelson is pretty much out in the open now and and with multiple sources behind it and all of that and you know I know that like Randy, you're your guy, Luke Elvey, and a few others were, you know, accusing the tour of being behind this because Phil's, Phil's no longer, you know, in the good graces. Let me just, Luke Elvey's so dumb, it hurts. Like, let's just, I don't want to mince words there. He is so dumb, it hurts. T.C. said his brain should be studying for science and I can't get that out of my head. I mean, I think that is that T. Like if this is the stuff that we know about, you know, like anything, you can only imagine all the stuff we don't know about.

That's usually how this goes. Golf rumors can run rampant. Phil rumors run rampant. And it's almost like, oh, everybody, everybody knew the story about the bridges and the phone going around. But it's kind of like, all right, is that a real story or is that just, you know, one of these things that gets circulate? Like, there's been so many, you know, Dustin Johnson's stories that are just everyone, I don't know if they're true or not, but everybody knows them. And like, so you, I, you know, I've heard all these Phil things, but I didn't even know whether they're not to believe it. But then it's like, no, you get the, actually somebody at the club to

tell you that this happened is like, ah, okay, well, this is a real thing. And it's like, all right, you hear something like that. And it's like, all right, that's just, you know, that's, that's fucking weird, but it's just Phil being Phil. And then you, and then you get it in the, in the context of, of him propositioning somebody's wife or, you know, allegedly himself as a family man. Like that's the part that is like, wait a second here, man. This is the bill of goods you sold everyone. You sold every brand that you ever worked with was you were the family man.

And that's the part that, yeah, it just gets, you know. Yeah. Yeah. And that's before. And that's setting aside the, you know, the worst allegations of them all from the halfway house at the other club. That like, that's beyond the pale. Right. Yeah.

But yeah. It's just been a. I mean The key The tiger stuff It's just both though It's just like fuck man Like

Yeah It's just that it's like Like they both got these Some soul searching man Fucking sucks Who thought this would be where we'd be with the new tiger versus fill discussion as You know These guys are in their in their late 40s early 50s

Um Yeah no I was just going to say like it felt like The he won the open in what 2013 at Muirfield I want to say Yeah. Keowo was obviously out of nowhere. Was that 21? Yeah. I feel like post open, it really just started to slip and, you know, the insider trading stuff.

The split with bones, which we still don't know, you know, you can start guessing now. Who knows what that's about? But it's just, oh, it's tough, man. It just sucks. Yeah, but there was a quote in this article. the one that stuck out to me was, you know, it's sources like one of his golfing buddies, but it's just like,

Bill's addicted to action. You know, if it's not, you know, and the, yeah, starts, you started drinking more on the road because Amy's not traveling

with them and it's just like this doom loop. It's like, that is just tough. And it's like, I don't know, through Twitter social media, like you can start seeing him, like,

just like, yeah, devolve into this like, who are you, dude? Like, what are we doing? Yeah.

That's the, that's the, that's the, the co-founder of the Live Golf League. And as that story seems to be coming to a conclusion here, that part's a little unsurprising, I guess. And as you would expect, the worst people out there had the worst possible reactions to, as far as I can tell,

quite buttoned up reporting that Alan and the whole legal team that was involved with that had to do there. So, way more fun. at the dicks open tc walkie is my new favorite player i'm just gonna say it yeah we didn't get tiger and phil out on out on the champions tour but we are going to is blocky uh finished t8 he tripled the last hole that's like we don't have flying cars but we do have social media let me read let me read this to you uh this is from his his his his

the transcript of his interview after the round. Michael, I know that's not the way you wanted to finish, but can you summarize the week for us? Blocky. Yeah, it was exactly what I had dreamed of and wanted to do, to be honest. And I didn't hit a bad shot on 18. That was the most frustrating part about it. I only made a couple bogies the entire week,

and for me to triple bogey the last hole, when I hit it down the middle of the fairway, hit a 52-degree wedge directly at the pin, and it hit the tree, which I guess that pin honestly wasn't in the right spot, to be honest. then it plugs in the bunker and then all hell breaks loose. I make a triple boge, but that costs me a lot of points, a lot of money,

a lot of everything, which is very frustrating. I'm just here trying to make my way possibly under this tour, and that hurt a lot. So, you know, I hope Blockie keeps pounding.

I know he's in the U.S. Senior Open field this week at Siodo. You said I'm coming for you, Columbus. It might be must watch TV. I can't believe I'm saying that. Did you, did you see him make the putt? And then like, and then like, you know, basically drop his putter, stare back at the crowd and then do like the praying hands.

It was electric. I think it was a par put on 17 yesterday. He makes like, I don't know, what was it? Maybe a 20, 22 foot put to save par. Chucks the putter. DJ sent me this text. And, you know, I'm the tweet. And I'm like, DJ, I'm bricked up.

He's like, dude, you have to watch it. So I texted it to my wife so I could watch it on her phone. And then I went back to DJ and I was like, listen, did not disappoint. Thank you for the heads up. Yeah, the little bow at the end. I mean, he's a showman. He might be the biggest showman out there. We're in the Malban drip.

I mean, it's sick. It's a full circle. I've come all the way around. I've circled the earth. And I'm back. I'm in on Blocky. I can't believe I'm here. I cannot believe it.

In a different world, bricked up means something entirely different. Right after talking about the Nicholson stuff. I'm a brick. You're super excited for that clip. Dave said it to be bricked up. I should clarify. I have something that does not allow me to access social media on my phone.

Honestly, like the Dix just sounded, it sounded electric. The Dix sporting goods open. I'm sorry. The Dix was bricked up. Wasn't there a bear up in a tree? A bear was sleeping in a tree right on property there. They had a, Randy, I know you're a big Kelsey ballerini fan. They had a Kelsey Ballerine concert at night.

Yeah. Yeah. One got off the rails. Well, we might have to go live from the dicks next year. Endicott, right? Yeah. Did you guys catch any of the women's am from Meierfield? No.

That was good stuff. That was really good stuff yesterday. I went back and watched a little replay. Andrea Revuelta lost three and one to Valentine de Lange. on a French woman who goes to Virginia Tech. So that was a good one. Mearfield looked awesome. So, Ollie, we got open qualifying this week from West Lanks, Dun Donald, Royal Syncports,

and Burnham and Barrow. Sick. As well. So I think we've got that tomorrow, maybe. Sounds right. DJ. Oh, no, Tuesday, June. Tuesday, June.

30th. And what we got is skipping apparently. You got John Deere and then are we over to Irish or Scottish? Scottish. Scottish. Okay, good. So then we get Lynx Golf starts. Good stuff. Liggs golf starts the next week at Burkdale.

Yeah. Fair enough. Coffee golf starts. Thank you, Randy. Just a little, a teaser. Sure. Now we got a good, good run coming. I mean, John Deere's this week and then Scottish open Evian.

well, in the following weekend, and then right into Open Championship from there, which goes right into 3M Open. No, that's the 3M Open Z on the off week, and then that goes straight to AIG Women's Open in the next week. So we got a lot of really good golf here coming through. I mean, August 2nd, all major season is going to be done completely here,

but we got three more between now and then. So it's coming fast and loose here. Anything else before we wrap here? This was longer than I was planning. but that's usually the way it goes. All right. Question for you guys. Does Nellie win one of the last two women's majors of the year?

Of course. I say yes, T.C. Of course. I'll say yes. I think she wins the Evian. It does look like she's fighting it, though. She was dropping her club today. She looked out of sorts, but I'm hoping she can regain something.

Cody, what's at you? Hell yeah, man. Why not? No, he'll think he's going to win two. Not too. I'd say probably Evian. All right. If she wins too, do they give her the Grand Slam?

Do they call it to the Grand Slam? Yeah, they are going to call it. Four. Four out of the five. It's any four, which is a disgrace. So her best finish in Evian is T8 and T9. So no close calls there. We're going to be fine.

It doesn't put very, concerned about the open because she doesn't put very good on slow greens. I think the ultimate women's accomplishment in a calendar year is now just winning the U.S. Women's Open and the British, the AIG. Like that's, you do that. Has anybody done that in the same year? I'm sure back in the day. But, you know, like the British Open used to be kind of some stinky courses. Honestly, the U.S. Women's Open used to go to some not great courses. So much like the Fedora 5, this might be like.

like a and he's arguing there's only two majors there's not fine there's actually only two and there's three signature events to be elevated signature events elevated they're super elevated um i'm trying to see the last time that was done women's british and u.s i feel like the most impressive might be winning the founders the u.s women's open and the a ig women's open those three so the It used to be the Demaria classic, which was not considered a major until 1979. I don't think anybody's ever won in the same year. How do you like Onica? I just checked Onica.

She did not do it. Her best was fourth and first. Amy Alcott won the 79. DeM. U.S. women's open the next year. So she held them both at the same time. Amy Alcott did. We're checking British.

And U.S. Olin? Yeah. Yeah, same year. 92, Patty Sheehan. She won the women's, U.S. women's open, an 18-hole playoff over Julie Anstron and won the

women's British by three after it was shortened of 54 holes due to rain. Okay, but that wasn't a major. That wasn't a major. Prior to. So what's the DeMarié Classic? Used to be the Canadian.

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Cheers. And he's going to be bricked up. Yeah. Randy, I can't believe you last that long with that prop in your hands. That's good stuff.