No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1181: Gotterup gets a 5th dub + a fun week in golf

Episode Date: July 6, 2026

Soly, TC and DJ break down Chris Gotterup’s fifth career win - and third in 2026 - as he claims the John Deere with a final round 62.  We also discuss Max Homa’s strong week and some of the other... top finishers before we dive into a grab bag of topics including the Hollywood Reporter article on future PGA Tour media rights strategy. We also discuss Padraig’s win at the US Senior Open, the DP World Tour in Germany, Open Championship qualifying before closing with a look ahead to this week’s LPGA Evian Championship and Scottish Opens and some quick thoughts on the statement from Phil Mickelson’s lawyer earlier in the week. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro / John Deere Recap 43:30 - News and Notes 59:30 - US Senior Open, DP World Tour, Open Qualifying 1:18:00 - LPGA Evian and Scottish Open look ahead, Lefty’s lawyer speaks Support our Sponsors: Footjoy AT&T Lagoon If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Nest⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠nolayingup.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Be the right club today. Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast presented tonight by our friends at Footjoy.
Starting point is 00:00:33 I am Sully, joined by Mr. T.C. How was your fourth weekend, my friend? It was great, Salli. Went fishing on Friday, neighborhood pool parties, and went to the beach Saturday, and then watched a tunnel world,
Starting point is 00:00:45 and watched a weird amount of the U.S. Senior Open and watched a ton of the John Deer today. So it was a good weekend. The giggle you hear is Mr. DJ Pie. How was your fourth, my friend? It was great. It was great. All-American stuff, man. Cookout, uh, put, set up a big projector screen, watch Jaws with my family.
Starting point is 00:01:02 I was, it's going to be one of our greatest summer ever, you know? It's, it's, uh, it's good stuff, man. Good stuff. America might be back, man. We're still, as of right now, we're still a long way to go. We got Baligan. We got Baligan back. A lot to be excited.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Gonerance winning. You know. Bring me my money. As mentioned, this show is brought to by our friends at Footjoy, the number one shoot in golfing on the lookout soon. We got some Footjoy fitting content coming soon. Me and T.C. went out to TPI. Got fit for shoes.
Starting point is 00:01:33 I'm a hyperflex guy, like just period point blank. I feel bad when I wear anything else now, but they got some of the other great styles that I want to mix in some premieres and the special edition stuff they send us every now and then, but I'm a hyperflex guy. I swing faster in hyperflex. It's easier to make that decision when I got a big round of golf coming up. Solly, I will join you. I rekindled my love affair with the hyperflex recently.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I forgot how good they are. I've been wearing other ones, have been wearing the premieres, have been wearing the pro-sls. The hyperflexes are, they're so good. I forgot how good they are. I was worried I was going to be a hyperflex guy myself because I like the premieres. Turns out I need the lower ankle thing
Starting point is 00:02:14 because I have no mobility or flexibility at all in my midsection. So I need my ankles to kind of be able to rotate. And so the premieres, it was like cut, it was black and white, cut and dry. I'm a premier guy. I think you would also sabotage your testing just to make sure you end up in the one that fits the best. But be on lookout for that from Footjoy as well.
Starting point is 00:02:36 The number one shoe in golf. We have Chris Goddorup wins yet again at the John Deere Classic. Michael Hollick wins the B. EMW International, Padraig Harrington, wins the U.S. Senior Open. Here's what went down at the John Deere in case you missed it over the holiday weekend. Lucas Glover, Lee Hodges. It took a one-shot lead into the final round over Ben Coles, Jackson, Super, and Zach Blair. Ben Coles opened up at the front nine 30, including an eagle at the second hole.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Hit the brakes a little bit, though, going into the back nine. Chris Goddrop also went out in 30. They made birdies on 10, 13, and 14. Goddardup also made a very clutch up and down on the same. 17th hold to get to 20 under par. Ben Coles birdies the 14th, but then bogey's 15, then makes a bomb on 16, but failed to
Starting point is 00:03:21 Bernie the par 517th. He hit a great tee shot down the middle of the fairway on 18, had 1,75 in, and he pulled badly pulled his approach shot into the water, I believe it was only the second ball to reach the actual water. Second or third, couldn't quite tell, to go in the water
Starting point is 00:03:38 there on 18 out of a field of about 79 guys. No balls with the water on Saturday, I don't think to water was just not really in play there. Then would go on to miss a short put to share second, following all the way back into a tie for third. Goddrup wins by one over Max Homa, who shot a final round 64,
Starting point is 00:03:55 including a 31 on the back nine. Fifth win for Goderup, fourth in the last 365 days. What do we do with this, guys? I think we call him a dude. That's what we do. You declared that he wasn't a dude. So, again, I don't know if you're the,
Starting point is 00:04:12 it could be the authority. I think he's got the kind of game that's going to, it's good makeup for major championships. Somehow he's only sixth in the FedEx Cup, despite this being his third win of the year. It's crazy. His brother on the bag, great story there. And he just kind of, he just, he had that look in his eye all day. He hit some really, really artful wedges today. He had one that was into the wind on the front nine and he flighted it down.
Starting point is 00:04:44 little one hop and stop one that was really good and then a pitch shot from short of one of the greens he was he was in some weird spots today the one 10 was the one I think that up that ridge and everything and then and then he got up and down from from long of a green just like there's some real falloffs at at TPC deer run which I love TPC deer run I feel like like guys am I a simp for just the these you know TPC River Highlands TPC deer run? I feel like I've really enjoyed watching the golf the last two weeks. I think there's a ton of comparisons. I think they both I'm so with you in that I think, uh, variety is spice of life. I think especially coming off of the US open. I think one of the best things about the PJ tour is that it's not the same thing
Starting point is 00:05:30 week after week when it gets bad, it becomes the same thing week after week. But watching those two golf courses after Shinnecock. I'm like, it's, it's interesting when you, you play a true tour and you go to different places that test, you know, different,
Starting point is 00:05:42 different areas of the game and have, different, you know, just different outcomes for the week. And I'm so with you, T.C. And I feel like there's, I think that's what made this John Deere a little bit strange for me is like, yeah, Godrop had some some cool shots. He didn't really have kind of, I feel like the John Deere stuff, maybe the marketing, the magic happens here, whatever they were, they had on their, their tents is is getting in my brain. But I feel like there are a lot of kind of like signature shots. You remember from John Deers, right? Speeth, of course. There's a Steve Stricker one. 18 there's there's all these moments of people going and and winning it at an of at a golf course like that
Starting point is 00:06:19 there's just very few people that lose it at a golf course like that which is again is like travelers you have a lot of people who make a lot of great shots and go out and when everybody's making birdies you just got to make one more than everybody else and that's why today is kind of weird because it's like i've been coals i mean got her went out early and posted the number but man ben coals lost it and you just haven't really seen that at at a john dear you know that i can remember I think coursewise, there's an interesting one. Like, I think the last two weeks, you're seeing the worst version of both of these courses, too. Like, drenched, like it rained a bunch earlier in the week.
Starting point is 00:06:54 They were playing ball in hand. And I felt like it was still good action. It was a diverse leaderboard. You had Zach Blair up there who was one of the shortest players on tour with Jackson Subaru, who's long as shit, right? You got everything in between. You got Lucas Glover. You got young guys. You got her up playing because John Deere gave him a sponsor exemption way back.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Like they used their sponsor exemptions really well. Coyvin made his debut this week. So it's just a well-run event. And I think I appreciate that. I think this is where I do think we can end up confusing some people and what we love to see about golf courses a little bit. I think both of these golf courses the last two weeks are really good versions of what they are, which is like an easier style of golf course, right?
Starting point is 00:07:39 I think you could hear that and be like, wait, I thought you guys didn't like Birdy Fest, like pretty easily. And yeah, I think there's this is a good, like I think, I like, I like, I like, I like TPC dear run for what it is. I think like if you put the best players in the world there for like a signature event, top level event, it probably falls short in terms of providing the proper test on that scale. But for, again, for what it is, like, which is maybe a tier of tournament that might be going away or, you know, kind of shifting one way or the other here, which we can talk about.
Starting point is 00:08:09 for what it is i i always enjoy this stuff way more than like 3m or you know detroit has been for whatever reason 3m detroit and dallas or the three that spring to mind for me of like this like like like give me this 10 times out of 10 over the cj cup biron nelson t pccccccccccccc i'mmaid the five exactly uh it's just like that like because that that's just not an interesting style of golf whereas i feel like this one there's some i don't know they're short work grass in spots. There's, there's some shaved off stuff. There's like, it takes driver out of their hands in certain holes. There's like, it pays to be on one side of the other of the fairway on certain holes. It's just, I don't know. It was a really good watch. I watched like all four days, which like I can't say for every event on tour. I always find the trees to be an interesting obstacle at this golf course too. It's, it's not like if you miss the rough, or if you miss the fairway, you're just stuck in waist high rough and and hacking it out. It's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, lot of like i remember again spieth going all the way back to 2013's like when you you miss the fairway right it's like you got to really negotiate those trees and figure out what you're going to
Starting point is 00:09:18 how you're going to play it up to that green and how you're going to get around it it's just a yeah godrup shot on 15 today going through the trees or godreps tea shot on 18 even you know shaping it around those trees it's just and to your point sallie it's like i i don't turn it on this week thinking that we're watching a you know this is the signature this is the hardest test the most proper test we can possibly make on the PJ tour this is US open 2.0 it's like no it's the fucking john deer it feels it has been since 1998 or whatever you know it's which i i just think is a feature instead of a bug so i'm don't feel bad tc about enjoying this i think you should you know we've been i think we've been dear appreciators for as long as i can remember we can't change now
Starting point is 00:09:59 and i think the um i don't know like just watching there's such a wide variety guys i mean you got you got you got ben cole's playing his ninth event in a row on two different tours, plus qualifying into the, you know, the US Open and all that. Like, that's just remarkable in and of itself. He's going to play the ESCO next week. Like, that adds up, too. Like, he played flawless golf on the front nine.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Like, one of those birdie made with that downhill putt that he just dripped in. I was like, dude, this guy is, this guy is in total control right now. Yeah, and then pulled a couple drives. He had the three pot on 11 and then had a couple drives that he pulled, but it just seems like 18 is like, I get you're going for the win there, but you probably just got to bail one out a little bit to the right, like everybody else did and be okay with having a 20, 25 footer for,
Starting point is 00:10:57 for Bertie, you know? Yeah. That was, what, $350,000 miss? The last putt was probably something around there. is getting 466, 400 for finishing in a three-way tie for third, which he would have been in a two-way tie for second, which would have been second and third. It may have even been a little bit more than that with him and Max.
Starting point is 00:11:22 It's a guy, like he's such a nice guy. He's like he played great all week. He kind of, he took control. And then what did he finish up? Like he goes from 140th to 100th in the FedEx time. Right on the dot. Yeah. It's just like, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:37 Come on. I imagine he'll keep playing well. But man, that's a lot of golf, especially in the hot climates in the middle of the summer. Oh, and it's split between the, like a lot of good golf split between the two tours and that doesn't really, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:51 that doesn't add up, you can't add them together is, again, a flaw. It's the same thing with Zach. Like, Zach played really well in Springfield last week. Didn't play great in the final round, plummets down the board. And then same thing. He was, you know, leading after round one or round two.
Starting point is 00:12:07 this week and in the second to last group and just kind of put it in neutral potter cooled off today and it's the same thing it's like you know instead of going from 100 and what was he hundred and uh 60th to like 90th he's going from 160th to 132 yeah and then the reshuffle and all that stuff it's like man it's just it's such a it's it is on the margins on the gotter up front I continue to just call this guy a weird golfer. I don't know what to do with him. When he's in it, he smells blood, and he is a force to be reckoned with and dealt with,
Starting point is 00:12:45 and nobody seems to be able to get in his way when he gets near the top. Then he kind of fades away, goes into the background for a few tournaments, and then next time he sniffs around, he gets it, he gets it done. The whole time watching the back nine today was just like,
Starting point is 00:12:59 how is he going to win this? I think he's going to win this, but how is he going to do it? It's going to be in the playoff. I absolutely think Goddorups winning this tournament today and gets it done for the fifth time, fourth time in 365 days, as we've said. I can't. Should we be more hype?
Starting point is 00:13:15 The stats don't adequately pick him up because he's, I think when he's on, when he's on his peak, he's got, that's why you're suspicious. That's why you're saying is weird. It's because you can't explain it. Oh, no. I just think like, like I think his, when he's on, he's on. Like he's got all the shots and he's got a, and he's got a, like a flare for the moment and he's he's not afraid of it and all of that i just think
Starting point is 00:13:39 like his floor is not as high as we would like it to be right and and i think but i think that obscures what his best golf looks like i think it you know it it it makes his wedge play and his in his iron play look relatively mediocre when i think when he's on it's it's it's really freaking good and like honestly he reminds me a lot of brooks i mean i know they look alike but just When, you know, it's like, hey, he, like, he adds up to something greater than the sum of his parts when he's in contention. I'll tell you what hurts, though, TC. I cannot get the quote out of my head from the players video after he just, you know, farted around TPC Sawgrass, finished T56 and said, can't wait to get to Houston. I can hit it anywhere out there. I was like, oh, God, man, like TPC saw. That was some technical skiing. And I don't, I just don't want to hear that. He's not fully baked yet. i mean that's that's what i was going to say i think that that's my take too i was thinking about it
Starting point is 00:14:40 and i'm it's maybe i just have the travelers john deer thing stuck in my head but i'm like i'm like is hovland kind of the comp i just remember you know hovelin going out and just running stuff on some of these kind of weirder lower tier events i mean like i know he hasn't done in the majors he hasn't done it in the the signature events he just also hasn't played that many of those you know and it's i just feel like it's going to take it takes a while to to step up and beat those really big ass fields and to get comfortable with that type of golf and to, you know, just, yeah, have the same pin your ears back. It's it's known when they're where the red light, green light, yellow light stuff is, right? As soon as the margins get a little tighter on the golf course, like it's clear what was a TC.
Starting point is 00:15:24 He's got three wins this year of shooting 64 better in the final round. Like that, yeah, that doesn't always work at TPC sawgrass or, you know, Muirfield Village or. It's like some of those places that are like, no, if you, if you try this, you're going to die. And I feel like maybe he's just tried it in the wrong spots a couple of times where it's, it's going to take a while to learn that and figure it out. I mean, that times three for the majors where he's been just kind of scuffled and not really been a factor. So give us more time. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:52 It's looking at me for sure. I'm struggling where to like, you don't, you don't see guys win this many times, but have none of the wins be like big feature wins. You know, you graduate from these kind of events. to the bigger events. Big toe. I would say, I'll put like a little bit on that.
Starting point is 00:16:09 It is. Like the Scottish Open was a big event. He beat Rory coming down this stretch. Like that was, that was a good field. And then Phoenix was big, and then Phoenix was real deal shit too. I looked this up.
Starting point is 00:16:22 He, the Scottish Open last year on the PGA tour was the 15th hardest field to win against out of 40 something events. So upper half of the upper, half, 25th percent, whatever you want to call that. Phoenix this year was 13 out of like 26 or so events so far. Sony was 20th and Deere was 23rd. So a couple of them coming in the easier half of the PJ tour events so far this year. And none of them have been kind of the top,
Starting point is 00:16:51 top tier ones yet. But again, that's kind of a one of one category. You can't even say that sentence without sounding like you're slagging the guy off and I'm absolutely not. It's just a unique, a unique race he's running right now where it's like, all right, well, what is the the next phase of that. Because you say like three-time winner, you're like, oh, put him on every team. Like, he's one of the top American players. And it's just really hard to place him.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Like he's, I think he's, like he seems like a dude that would be perfect for a team. He would get along with everybody. He'd be the perfect locker room guy. His game's pretty malleable. You can put him with a lot of different guys. Like, he seems like he'd be okay playing with most,
Starting point is 00:17:30 with most guys. He's played five majors in a row. He played the U.S. Open in 2022, made the cut, and then he missed the cut at the PGA in 24. Other than that, he's played five majors in a row now. U.S. Open last year, the Open Championship, and then the three this year. He's made all five cuts, T23, third, T24, T-10, T-43. And granted, you know, I know Augusta, like his game's probably pretty good for Augusta, right? It's, you know, longer player likes to be able to bomb it off the T.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Open Championship. Seems like he likes that kind of golf as well. Played well there last year. Obviously, won the Scottish. U.S. Open was pretty wide this year. Where was U.S. Open last year? I'm blanking. Oakmont.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Oakmont. Yeah, totally different test of golf last year, T-23. And then T-10 at Eronomink this year. I feel like some pretty different styles of golf courses. And so that kind of booes me a little bit of like, all right, like this guy's got some versatility. to him and he likes it when the when stuff is firm and the ball is on the ground to which is a big skill set trait that i like i go back to to sally's uh word weird which i think is to
Starting point is 00:18:46 be celebrated rather than uh to be pejorative right and it's like yes you know no the guy wanted you know myrtle beach uh and then he he won in scotland uh and then he wanted phoenix uh and now he's wanted you know the quad city it's just it's just it's sweet man and he does neal said this before like i i fully subscribed to this like watching him on on screen today makes you feel something man he's he's he's he's got the uh he's got the gravity to him he really i know he's the highest ranked player in the field this week and he feels like it it's it's really fun seeing him up there and so to the point of all this whole conversation but yeah i just want to see him up there you know against rory against scottie against fits against all the hovelin
Starting point is 00:19:31 It gets all these guys that, you know, we see at all the big signature events, which I don't, I think is coming. I think it's coming. Some comps that you guys are not going to like when I say these two names, but they'll say right with. No, no, no, no, no, you're not going to like it. But I'm just bringing up the point here of, okay, but give me, give me like, the comp I won't make that he's been consistently better than it's like MAV.
Starting point is 00:19:53 He's a better, he's a better player than Matt. Like, Mav doesn't get the wins. Mav's around a lot more, but doesn't get the wins. Goderup isn't maybe as round as much and gets the wins, right? We all know what is going to get remembered among, like the whole point of playing the tournaments is to win them. I'm not arguing. I'm not arguing.
Starting point is 00:20:08 What's that? I don't hear you're going to say, Ben Griffin. You probably don't. Ben Griffin, yeah. That's a good cop. I don't like it, but it is a good cop. I think his game seems so much more sustainable and so much more substantive than Ben Griffin's.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And that's not a knock on Ben Griffin. That's a compliment for Goderup. It does. It looks a lot like how Ben Griffin was doing it last year. Like I fully, fully agree with you. I see what you're saying for sure. They're right next to each other in strokes gain and data golf ranking and Griffin had the three wins last year and Goddorps got up. You know, the four within the last year. The other name that comes up is JJ Spawn. Yeah, I'm struggling with that one.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I mean, not playing style, but in terms of just their overall again, like this is going to how it works in golf. like you can miss a cut and win and that's going to be we're all going to remember that a whole heck of a lot more than two top 20 finishes and if you average them i remember that stuff you average them out uh it's going to look a lot different that's what makes goder up weird right is this um so anyways i i don't know how many of these wins are weird do you trade for like a bigger way like would you trade the the sony and the john deer to win the Cadillac like to have Cameron Young, I mean, take the players out, but have Cam Young's win at the Cadillac? I don't know the answer.
Starting point is 00:21:31 I think he would just from a purse perspective. Sure. Four million versus. It's just so. I think he's a slow simmer, too. Like the sense that I get, he played, he played, what, four years at Rutgers? Three or four years at Rutgers and he transferred to Oklahoma. He was, you know, not not a world beater.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Like he was big 10 player of the year in 2019, 2020. but not a crazy world beater. And then, you know, Oklahoma, he kind of popped. But then he got to Corn Ferry. He didn't make it off Corn Ferry until 2023. So this is his third full season on tour. I think he's, and I think he's still a little bit like Mav as well. Like he's learning how to, you know, adjust to his level, right?
Starting point is 00:22:19 So I think like this year, I would expect for him, you know, playoffs open championship in a couple weeks. I would expect him to poke around at least in one of the playoff events. And then next year is like, all right, I'm, I need a top five or a win in a major. Like it's just, it's stair stepping up. Well, and to your point, I mean, it's third season on the PJ tour, but to the whole point of the larger pro golf conversation right now, there are two tours and this is essentially his first year on the big, big tour.
Starting point is 00:22:49 You know, it's like it's not only the third year on the PJ tour, it's the first year. you're playing a lot of the biggest events and which he's now played his way into and is you know just taking that was a closed shop though that's right i think it's tc to your point on like kind of different background it's also i don't know i just don't think there's that many top emerging players right now that we can sit and have a 20 25 minute conference like excited conversation about and a lot of that is it's how he looks he looks a little different he swings it hard and he looks he's got a funky move you know like you said it's very brother on the bag today was great you've never heard anybody say a bad word about him seems like
Starting point is 00:23:26 everybody really likes him he's just he's fun to watch man absolutely love that he's a crier i'm such a baby i cried i love that he's a crier he's crying all the time he's crying about having his brother on the bag i'm a massive sap for that stuff so how about his brother hitting hitting practice swings do you see taking take a pTO to go caddy it love that don't mistake this for anything i'm a gotter up fan i am a i am a i'm pro i put him on the team now that's a done like that has been finally finally yeah that's an easy easy one don't mistake it i'm just it's all very weird uh ed but i'm glad we have a dude that like when he sniffs the you know sniffs the finish line he i don't know how to finish that analogy but he's there's stats can't explain it it's it's it's the eye test it's the heart baby
Starting point is 00:24:13 he's got the bottle it's just the is he on well i don't want to start a whole thing but i mean has he been on the fedora five for all this is just a forward looking index. He has been on the fedora five. Yeah. No, you want me to. Oh, yeah. I mean, he was back in Phoenix after he won, which is supposed to be a forward looking index. I've just, no, I know it was a forward looking index here. I can tell you exactly. He's been eighth on the fedora five for most of the season, I think. Hold on. I'm going to pull it up. You can go find that. You can go find there's, there's just there's a so many T. Yeah, we're, we're scratching the surface. There's many greater possibilities that are out there for, for God, up into the future.
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Starting point is 00:25:16 He was on the Fedora 5. He was number two in the Fedora 5 February 8th. The initial Fedora 5 was P then got her up. So, and then he fell off. Which actually is an excellent. But he was on the practice squad. He was on the practice squad a couple times. That's, well, yeah, I guess you did kind of buy, you bought pretty high on him there, T.P.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I did. You may have taken a bath on that one. No, I'm long. I'm long. him. So just like, I mean, I feel like now we've got, I think we could have two sets of siblings on the Fedora 5 now too, because Chikara's sister won in, uh, oh, you're going to put Goderub's brother out. Oh, yeah, Goddor's brother could be on there too. We could have three sets of siblings. Uh, as mentioned, shout to our boy, Max, home of the final round 64, uh, runner up
Starting point is 00:26:11 finished. I think John Deere was his best finished last year as well. He moves up into the top 50, uh, in the FedEx Cup. Not been his best year, but playing some better golf and a great finish this week. And yeah, we are all obviously, it snuck up on me, the fact that he might be, have a chance to win the tournament here today. But it gave it gave the pot a good run on 18 and finish just one shot back and was the beneficiary of Ben Coles's 18th hole as well. Hey, I think he loves this place, man. Yeah. D.T5 here last week. It seems like kind of a get right, a get right place for him, which would you like to see? He missed a couple short puts pretty early on in the proceedings, like earlier in the week, too. So I think it feels like things are rounding into form for him.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Forth of the tea today, which is great. Some interesting quotes about how much he struggled with birdie fest in the past and how, you know, when you see him play well, it's Quail Hollow, it's Riviera. It's those types of like really tough tests. Tee Z Avenel. Yeah, exactly. That place was so hard that year is. It was so hard. And it's, yeah, that's, that's been the places where he's kind of grinding it out.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And it's, he's always had a hard time kind of switching into, no, I just need to burdie every hole rather than kind of be the last survivor type of, you know, the mental exercise of that. And so that's another another kind of achievement unlocked, I think, for him to pin the ears back and get into contention. All right. Who else you want to hit, T.C.? You want to go down the board a little bit here, down the notes? Yeah, I think Lucas Glover played well. Lee Hodges, I think he needs to speed it up. He played well a week, but he was just, he was a little halting this weekend.
Starting point is 00:27:51 What do you think about my take, Lucas Glover, if you win as the PAC chairman, do you think you should get something extra? Like an extra executive order? I'm afraid with him, it might be like a Murean statement, though. Like, all right. But maybe he earned it. He might earn it, though, if he wins at 46 or whatever he is. You know, it's impressive stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:12 He didn't, but, you know. You can imagine what it would be like if he did. Imagine what it would have been like. He wants to. The detective T6, big spot for him today. Jackson's Super for our listeners' sake. Up to 78th. No bogeys today.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Up to 78th in the FedEx Cup. Doug Gim, T6. I hope his dad was out there. How about him hitting every fairway? Did you see that? Every fairway and every green on Saturday. was a first player since, what was it? 2014.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Yeah, to hit every player, every fairway and every green. I mean, it's unbelievable stuff. That's just triumph. Yeah, that's the dream. The weekend played well, just steady all weekend. 69-67 this weekend, Rio hit Satsune. Zach Johnson, I thought we were going to have to get the, the Rock River bandits out there with the air cannon.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Stand down. Stand down, boys. Yeah. He shot 64 first round. I mean, you have to admit, T.C., win it out the Champions Tour and the PJ Tour the same year would be, even you would have to tip your cap to that.
Starting point is 00:29:25 That'd be on a B4th, 4-5 mentioned. That would be. What else? And then, yeah, I'll shout out Zee-B. Zee-B played well. He putted really well. I think they kept saying how good of a putter
Starting point is 00:29:35 he is on the broadcast. He's never that good of a potter. He's really streaky with the putting. But like, he just, he's really good iron player. That's kind of his game. And the putting kind of comes and goes. He putted so good this week that I think he was dead last today. And he was still like sixth for the week or something.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I mean, it was, he filled it up early in the week. And it's such a bummer man. He said 29 on the, you know, on the front yesterday. Like, making the turn yesterday, got it to like, what, 17 or 18 for the week? And then just kind of stalled out. I think he got to 17 and ended up finishing at 16. you know, one over his last 27 holes. So tough, but good showing.
Starting point is 00:30:17 His swing looks so good right now. He's just like he's playing really good golf. So very curious to see what he does at the Isko this week. The Isko might be the fifth major this year. You called it the Hurstborn ultimatum, which is one of the better nicknames I've heard. Nobody rides for Hurstford like T.C. So good last year. Hopefully they get that place dialed up again.
Starting point is 00:30:42 I think it was like a single digit under four last year. Was it Mao one? Yeah. That's really all I've got. I think Blades Brown. We had a note on him. Just in your ass. He's really not, though,
Starting point is 00:30:58 because he's not even close to getting like 70. Like he has to get up to 70th to get his tour card via that, via special temporary membership. So either he does that or he's just trash. Or he gets it via cornwall. He is a better category. Yeah, exactly. Preston Stout, I was impressed with him this week,
Starting point is 00:31:19 continue to be impressed with him. He's a stud. I think I'm buying stock there. Harry Higgs played well. Yeah, Preston Stout, our newly glossed number one am in the world because Jackson Coyvin turned pro this week made his pro debut.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Miss the cut. Another one, to your point about the sponsor exemptions, like that that's such an indicator of a, a proper tournament, you know, and I just, yeah, Sally, I'm with you. Bring me the sentimentality. Bring me the crying. Bring me the like, these guys were good to me when I was in AM, so I'm going to show back up. Like, it's just, it reminds me like this small market baseball team, you know?
Starting point is 00:31:56 John Deere's just like, this is what they have to do to win on the margins here. It's just they got it. They got to win these little things here. Otherwise, otherwise nobody's showing up. And travelers, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:10 to their credit. Like, I feel like they're running these tournaments the right way. But this is all going away. I know. It's a larger conversation. Yeah. That is interesting. But, yeah, you mentioned miscut for Jackson Coyvin, making his pro debut this past week.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Just like a disheartening cut into speed, like a speedth update as he's finishing on 18. Finished T-58 this week, shot 70, 69, 69, 69. actually putted well. But just, yeah, the short game was last in the field. I'm not sure what was going on there. But it's never good when the early week press conference is kind of the highlight of the week. I mean, that was electric. There's a lot of really good stuff in there, very thoughtful stuff, good stuff about aging, good stuff about the grind, chasing it.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Really, you know, lots of gambling stuff that got clipped and kind of thrown about. but yeah, not much to remember really from the golf. The golf side of things. When you're complaining about the gambling and you're a fandal partner. That's not great. It's not ideal. To be fair, I don't know if he knows his own Twitter password or any of those things. But yeah, not a great, not great luck.
Starting point is 00:33:24 I agree that it's super easy and we have had gambling partners in the past. Have you take us with a great to solve if you'd like to. It is super easy just to marry the two up and provide zero nuance to the situation. I think there is a fight coming against player props, like in a lot of sports. And I think that's probably more of, and I don't have his exact quotes in front of me, where a pretty decent point he's likely trying to make in that regard, where at the same time, like, there's, you know, there's sports gambling and betting stuff that we all like to do that I think is above board.
Starting point is 00:33:58 And I think it, I think getting, I mean, with all this stuff that just happened in the NBA with overrunners on rebounds and things like that and the individual whole betting, and things you can do is where I think he's probably saying some attention should be paid to this maybe a little bit more. And I don't disagree with him in that part, but it is going to get washed out on like the worst app in the world probably as soon as you open your mouth and say that. Yes. Well, maybe he's trying to throw us off the scent, though. Maybe he's so deep into the mix. It's the only thing. It's the only thing I can think of. They would explain the way that he plays off. I'm losing so much money in these player props guys. Come on. He's he said so yeah, he's in so
Starting point is 00:34:44 much control that he could lead to any category or lose any category on any given week. It's just it's impressive. I did want to shout out the country music sensation Patrick Adler as well. This was great stuff. You know, of course, you're going to find the Wisconsin connection, but a Marquette grad who yes, it is I think a second year, first year or second you're playing pro golf also in a band with his brothers like a traveling kind of country band uh monday into the john deer it was it was great stuff i think he missed the cup i think he was at our uh he shot 701 yeah yeah uh just great stuff you love you love to see that true i got a great email from a listener that that was flagging that one said you know we did we had some fun with
Starting point is 00:35:29 our is this person the u s open qualifier or a country music star uh in our u s open podcast And they're like, oh, this is, this is crazy. Sometimes life invitates art. Here you go. This actually happened. So that was great. Shout out to, shout out to Patrick. Shout out to Aaron Wise, too.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Did you guys see that one? Yeah. Great. Good interview on, on Saturday. I think he's just kind of one of those names that when you've been following golf for as long as we have. Everybody kind of knows, but probably hasn't thought about in a while. Uh, he finished T39 this week made his first cut of 2026, normally not super notable, but famously left.
Starting point is 00:36:06 pro golf mid 2023 citing some pretty heavy mental health struggles he's had some comments about it since had some comments about it this week just in case he i mean forgot he won when he was 21 on pj tour in 2018 at bairn nelson that when it was at trinity forest uh rookie of the year he was stud coming out of college he was kind of you know set up to be to be the dude and just uh obviously really really struggled with the mental side of the game and and what it was doing to him, you know, just traveling and competing and doing all that stuff. He had some very strong quotes about how harmful it was just to to himself this week to be out there playing. Basically took like two full years off kind of in what would be the prime of his career and has battled
Starting point is 00:36:53 back. Like I said, some good quotes this week about just realizing, realizing like how good he was and how hard it is to play at that level. I thought it was a really, a really good way to put it, how hard it is to get back to that standard of golf once you've taken off time. And good for good for him for fighting his way back. So obviously I think everybody's rooting for that and good to see some some signs of life in the golf game. Yeah. To step away when you're ranked top 40 or 50 in the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Pretty heavy, I think. I had forgotten a lot about it too. I mean, it was kind of, it was like a couple weeks before the masters. Yeah. as well. And it basically had to say, like, I'm not playing in the Masters, which is always just a very loaded, heavy, you know, sort of opportunity to turn down. And I'm sure, yeah, I can't imagine what he was going through. But doing nothing but,
Starting point is 00:37:46 nothing but rooting for him to get it back. Any, any, guess of any comment on the Luke Clinton situation? Mistcut this week. It's 144th in the FedEx Cup now. Yeah, I feel like we're behind schedule, TC. I think we, we are. We both say that. You know, I need to dig into it more. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:06 There's a lot of these lost, lost children, right? We have the Sarge. We have Dunlap. We have Luke Clinton. Taylor Montgomery. Taylor Montgomery, yeah. I mean, he might be 35 or 36 now. Lost track of him.
Starting point is 00:38:20 You know, Cam Davis. That guy's falling off the face of the earth. I know, man. I know. It's nuts. But listen, Clanton's 20. He's not even 23 yet. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:31 We would be paying. patient, very patient. We got so, we're sure. I do think there is a bad habit of if these guys come out, like it, sometimes it does take time to learn how to be a professional and to, and to like just learn how to win and learn how to adjust and all of that, especially a guy who played, what, a couple seasons at Florida State. And I think that you're seeing it with Sergeant.
Starting point is 00:38:56 You're seeing it with Dunlap. It's like there's, they get expedited and they get all these expectations, you know, looped into them and then it's you know and i'm throwing them on a top 10 you know players without a major um but no but why are we bringing this up no because because i think that there's there's just like they got to do it so quickly and or it's just on to the next thing onto the next you know hot young player and i i do think like there should be there's so many guys that are hall of fame players that you know muddled about for two, three, four years at the beginning of their career.
Starting point is 00:39:35 So Zach Johnson. I have a, yeah, he doesn't count. I have a bunch of patience for guys to get their feet under them. The great man, team rose. Look at him, solid. Sure. So TC, I totally agree with that. Of course I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:39:48 You guys voted him as one of the 10 best players in the world. I don't even regret. I don't regret it. I don't have a major. That is at that time. It was a forward looking index. Yeah. At that time, he was.
Starting point is 00:39:57 It could very well be. We didn't say when that major was going to come. We just that's that quality that he was playing. Solly, how's your hovelin Scotty thing looking after? Very good. Very good. T.C. Not as good as it was 10 days ago.
Starting point is 00:40:13 T.C., I think the, I totally agree with everything you just said. And I think it puts the PJ tour in a very interesting situation where they are, especially as, you know, we're talking about restructuring things. And we're talking about how the hot hand needs to get in and there needs to be all these pathways. is a lot of incentives to just like get these guys their stat. We need new young stars as fast as you can turn them out. And it just, yeah, puts a guy like Nick Dunlap in a weird spot. A guy like, you know, a lot of like, who knows, hopefully Coyvin turns into an outstanding pro.
Starting point is 00:40:49 And he's played really, really great in the opportunities he's gotten. But yeah, it's just weird, man. When you end up kind of getting getting the front door unlocked is just not always not always the best thing, I'm sure. You know, there's a lot of careers that have gone differently. The new format, like that second tier, I think will actually be a really good thing. Or there's guys to get their feet under them. More so than Corn Ferry. Like they're playing real setups.
Starting point is 00:41:16 I mean, the court have to set ups on Corn Ferry or dog shit. Like, you think this week was a birdie fest on John Deere. That would be a top three venue on Corn Ferry tour, you know. Right. Yeah, agree. I agree. I think there's something to be said for guys that I've always liked the way Akshay went about it of kind of learning and the way Blades Brown's going about it. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:41:42 I think it's not quite like minor league baseball where you know, you want to play against guys your own age and you, you know, progress and don't lose confidence. Like, dude, I'd rather just like learn how to play the hardest courses against the top players. I don't think, I don't think like grinding it out at a lower level would necessarily. Like, there's things to be learned to learn about being a pro at different levels. But some of these guys that come out with as many starts as they get, you know, as amateurs in a lot of these events. And I've learned the ropes a little bit and have contacts and know people and, you know, have agents that can help them with a lot of that stuff. Like, I don't think it, I don't think the tour should necessarily change how they're fast-tracking some of the top players. Like, I think they should get these opportunities to go, go out and do it.
Starting point is 00:42:25 And the pathways need to stay open for the hot golfers to make their way. up there. So I agree. Totally agree. I think they found a good balance. It's just an interesting conversation. I also, I would like to hear some of these guys talk about the difference. If they feel any difference between like what Blades is doing right now and the just tomorrow's not guaranteed. I just got to keep I got every opportunity I got. I got to go just fill it up versus okay, you did it. Now you've got a full card at age 20. Like go go for it, man, you know, I wonder if that almost feels more like looking up at a mountain and just siking yourself out rather than like, hey, I got a chance this week. Who knows what could happen?
Starting point is 00:43:06 You know, I wonder how much of that mentality, you know, changes for guys. I think there's pluses and minus with each. I also think that the way that they've like made objective stuff around PGA TourU and around the amateur game. Like it seems like there's there's a pretty good framework there for rewarding the right stuff it's not like it doesn't seem like guys are gaming the system or that you know there's misplaced or misaligned uh incentives there as well like it seems like you know these guys are learning well at like i think blades is going to continue to be the exception because of the nil money that's going in like you might as well have the best of both worlds go to college make a million bucks a year have a college experience at least
Starting point is 00:43:54 for two, three years and then go, you know. Yeah, that's a good point. This has to be TC. Yeah, I threw this on there. I thought this, I was across this earlier in the week. It was, who is this, this guy that Juju, that saw his, is it girlfriend, wife, fiance? This, this ESPN anchor walked up to her in the coffee shop. I don't know if it was a local coffee shop or a Starbucks like Smartin goes to, but,
Starting point is 00:44:24 The guy basically walked up and was like, hey, did anybody like recognize you yet or something like that? And then just a really awkward thing. But he went, he took to TikTok, he took to social media to then air out this story, not naming names. And she's like, hey, this is very like, and then she took to social media and was very much like, this is clearly me. This was a bizarre interaction. And this guy's kind of a creep. And I think I'm team juju on this one. Yeah, T.C., this came across my desk at about 11, 1115, 11.30 p.m. I saw Sahith, you know, kind of responding, like a show of support. And I was like, do I need to dig into this? What's, what's going on? And I got what I would say like 20% into getting to the bottom of this. I was like, you need to fucking go to bed. What are you doing reading about this? Stop it, man. What are you got a, you got to.
Starting point is 00:45:22 get out of here it's the fourth of july what do what are you doing with yourself this is a test this is a 38 38 year old man what are you reading about this coffee shop interaction go this was this was on the gram this was in the comments on the gram so i have said quote that guy should have never put you in a position like this i love you so much and i'm incredibly proud of how you've handled it my queen heart emoji i see how kind and caring you are to all that interact with you and the people close to us know your real incredible self which i i'm reading that i'm like god did someone like throw a coffee at her or something or like what i was like oh it was just kind of a weird like interact oh god all right what a waste what's this guy's
Starting point is 00:46:08 guy's name gary gary strusky yeah i don't know sports center anchor yeah i i saw if you're if you're in a coffee shop are you recognizing this guy gary he said he's people are coming up to him constantly thanking him for his i probably would i him and randy scott or like a you know, a pair on, on SportsCenter. I would probably recognize him. So I could see how this could happen. But I don't know why you, he, the mistake he makes is going and posting on social media. Like, yeah, this chick like blew me off or I don't, I never, I did not watch the video.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I got kind of similar experience to you, D.J. I did not allow myself to actually dive into this stuff. But I did eventually. It was the next day. So, yes, she, you know, you know, I get it. Like, all right, you recognize somebody from social media. You're kind of playing along with them. Sure.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Blah, blah, blah. She thinks it's weird, though, because you just went up during a coffee shop. Oh, shit, you don't know who I am. Oh, this is super awkward now. And don't go post about it and then, like, make her to respond and all that. And listen, I don't, no winners in this situation. I'm not a huge fan of her whole deal on the gram on social. Sure.
Starting point is 00:47:19 But in this case, I stand with juju. I always faired balance. I fully agree. Yeah. Anything else from this past week, T.C. I saw Shupak got some mule droppings, got some time with Lucas Glover, but nothing, nothing incendiary. I think Lucas was just saying. Basically, he wants the PGA tour to refocus on charity, which I thought, hey, that's a good sentiment.
Starting point is 00:47:48 I agree. You know, Roll app, it kind of came at the very end of Roll-Aps. remarks when he talked to travelers and he basically said, you know, these changes will help us, you know, double down and refocus on on our charitable component. It was at the end of his stuff. So but you know, the more tournaments that go over to the PJ the PJ tour run championship management, the less those charitable, uh, checks will be in the short term. But hopefully, you know, at some, at some point, it stays within balance. There was an article this past week, The Hollywood Reporter.
Starting point is 00:48:26 It's called Inside the PGA Tours made for TV overhaul. Diggs in. It's got some quotes in there from Drew Prasad, who's the PJA Tour chief commercial officer, just talking about basically introducing a bunch of potential options for the next media deal, which the big reason they're trying to get organized for 2028 is that will be the year that it's negotiated. The deal expires at the end of 2030. Prasad didn't name names in the article, but the article does mention, of course, NBC Sports,
Starting point is 00:48:55 ESPN, Netflix, golf channels, CBS, other networks. They're expecting to be participating in this next go-around. Prasad did say, I think we're pretty transparent about what we're trying to do. We're trying to create a more compelling media product that results in more viewership, that results in greater fan affinity, a larger, more diverse, younger fan base that leads to more value in our media rights and in our economic model overall. And he said, what makes the best sports,
Starting point is 00:49:19 great from a fan perspective is when every game matters, every week matters. In our case, every tournament matters in an overall competitive system. And what I think the PGA Tour lacks today in our current model is a fan understanding of how each tournament fits into the overall system. So we're trying to evolve to a system where every week, every tournament matters from a competitive standpoint, whether it's the championship series where players battle for a season-long championship or the Challenger series where players are trying to get promoted up to the championship series. And that's the primary thing they're playing for, end quote, which yeah, I mean, now it's just whoever makes the final 30 has an equal chance of
Starting point is 00:49:52 winning the title at the end of the year. I do think the BGA tour can do it better. Interesting, just to say what I think is pretty obvious, but say this out loud of, hey, we need to create a better championship product at the very end. If we're going to treat this league or tour like a media product instead of a collection of events, which is the very clear change that the tour is headed on, one that we've speculated on that they'll be changing for quite some time now. So Just interesting quotes from the horse's mouth there on exactly what they're trying to do. I think trying to get more parties at the table as well, trying to get the streamers in. And, you know, I think like Comcast, kind of a wrinkle this week, too,
Starting point is 00:50:30 Comcast announced plans to spin off NBC and Sky as well. So we'll see what that, what bearing that has. And then ESPN is adding playoff coverage to linear TV as well. So not just ESPN Plus. It'll be on, you know, it'll be morning coverage. But again, it seems like roll-ups going out of his way to try to get this thing onto as many TV sets as possible on the big weeks. I found a couple things interesting about the article. You were talking about solid.
Starting point is 00:51:04 One, just in the Hollywood Reporter, like giving this to the Hollywood Reporter was just very interesting in itself. And that it's, I don't know if that was a, may I'm reading too much, but I don't know if that was a, hey, streamers. Like we're open for business sort of situation. And then two, it's, you know, we don't have to go super deep into this. I love to listen to you guys talk about the track one versus track two. And I'm very in line with everything they're saying. But it's also every time you hear them say it out loud, every time you hear like, yeah, every week has to matter. And every week has to do this.
Starting point is 00:51:33 And we need the PGA tour to do this. There's just no, there's never any talk about the majors in that. And it's just this kind of lingering in the background thing of like, yeah, yeah, none of this stuff is. going to matter in comparison to the majors. And you are constantly trying to close that gap. I feel like as much as you're trying to change your system as far as otherwise, it's just always going to feel like two completely separate animals. And so it's like, I think you can move the ball forward and create a much better system. But unlocking all of this like, you know, gazillions of dollars in value is where I'm like, well, it seems like you still are going to be
Starting point is 00:52:09 up against that disconnect forever. And it's just every time I read an article like this it's that's kind of the part that gets left unsaid is it's not really a FedEx Cup problem it's a problem with like you don't own any of the biggest coolest best events like that that's kind of more the issue here and then the third the third thing is like also just kind of taking it off of you know as much as they try to go with the the Netflix hey let's put it on a cool streamer it's like do the only superpower the PJ tour has is that it's on CBS for sure like that's That's the only fucking thing that matters. And so it's, yeah, there's just a lot of, it's a lot of like I like what you're saying
Starting point is 00:52:49 and I like where we're going here. But I color me just a little pessimistic about actually getting there. I think the other question I have is one of the fundamental, like structural underpinnings of these media rights deals with the PGA tour have been the tour pre-selling a lot of the commercial inventory. and from what I've heard, the new regime is like, no, like, why would you do that? That's stupid. And I think that was always a pretty big value ad for an NBC or CBS when you buy something and 60 or 70 percent of your inventory is already sold.
Starting point is 00:53:30 You're like, yeah, there's some measure of stability and just low risk on that front. So I'm curious to see kind of how they balance that. would imagine there would be some some level of that still going forward with title sponsors and or you know official marketing partners or whatever but but to what level i think is is is a very interesting wrinkle moving forward i think to your to your point though it it um it's hard to i i want to get away from ratings talk because i think the ratings thing was a interesting measure of the when the live was a factor here of like, wait a second here, Liv's making all this noise,
Starting point is 00:54:13 but it has made almost zero impact on anybody's viewing habits. And like, are people flitting, you know, it's interesting. Our PJ tour rings going out the window because everyone's not watching golf anymore. The actual minutia of the ratings is not that interesting outside of that viewing window. But if you do zoom out,
Starting point is 00:54:30 it's like Brian Rolap said like in very beginning, the first things we heard from him was like, why did you take this job was like, because you saw how many people watched the, RBC Heritage, right? Like the individual, like properties that the PJ Tour owns from a history standpoint, like the heritage is not the greatest tournament. It's not even the greatest field. Like they, you know, they don't pull all of the top players. It's not the players, is my point. But it is a traditional event that's in a good time slot on a major network that a lot of people
Starting point is 00:54:59 watch. And I think that there was something to like, this is an interesting thing about this tour and the potential of this league. Why the fuck does it not ladder up to something at the end of the year. And I tend to agree, like, yeah, the majors are included the most valuable properties, but I just, I do think there is a world where all these events, when they start adding up to something that makes more sense, the overall, the individual tournaments get more exciting as well. Like, there's just something more at stake than what we just witnessed this week, which is like, got our up, all right, on to the next week, how that actually ladders up to the actual championship. Like, when you watch an F1, when I was watching F1, like the end of the outcomes.
Starting point is 00:55:39 of those races just feels like it has a big impact on the standings, like no matter what happens. And I've never watched golf thinking that on a week-to-week basis. And I think that's going to change. I really do. My counter to that, though, would be that F-1 doesn't pause four times a year to be like, okay, now here's something totally separate. That's actually way cooler. Are you still interested in like the season-long race?
Starting point is 00:55:59 You know, and like, we'll get back to that next week. But like this one's way better is where I don't know. I just feel like that's an, it's hard. And I'm like, if I was the PJ tour, I would do exactly what they're. doing it looks great like i i think this everything you're saying makes a ton of sense too it just is like this very weird to golf inherent inherent it's weird it's super weird you know that i don't know how they yeah yeah i don't i don't think it's an either or i see what you're saying dage i don't but i don't think the gulf has to be as big as it currently is between the week to week pga tour and
Starting point is 00:56:32 the majors because we're still going to do this tournaments yeah yeah let's let's start making it you know Let's try something. Make a little. Yeah. Yeah, let's have it make a little sense. Let's have some connectivity. Let's make it simplify it for fans. Let's make it easier to understand.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Like, I like, everything I'm saying, I think, is in the context of like, to what degree can that unlock this new value and new viewership and new everything. Because it seems like all of these conversations are predicated upon like you're not even going to believe how much we're going to grow this thing by changing this, that and the other thing. I'm like, well, we're not really changing that much. You're just kind of making it like, you're making it a little better and you're making it a little more easy to understand, but I just don't think it's going to be this big wholesale fundamental change.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Like I don't think it's going to feel all that different in 2028, I guess, but I don't know. In some ways, I think it will. I agree like just watching golf on television, PJT's or golf on television isn't going to feel dramatically different. Watching a golf tournament, it's not going to be, you know, the most amazing production ever. You know, it's hopefully.
Starting point is 00:57:37 it's better. I think it should be, but I don't think it's going to be like, you're not even going to believe how exciting the BGA tour is when you tune in. I don't think that, but I think it, I don't know, I think that, you know, the devil's going to be in the details of all that. Like, the difference between good and great golf, like it usually comes down to the details, having everything dialed. And more and more for the guys on tour, that means how they sleep. Like, we've partnered with Lagoon because the idea is simple. If you custom fit your clubs, why wouldn't you custom fit your pillow you can go to lagoon sleep.com slash n o you take a two-minute quiz they will match you to the exact pillow that fits how you sleep i am team otter otter all the way
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Starting point is 00:59:26 And you just throw it over your shoulder, throw it in your bag. And it's great. It packs down easy. So lagoon sleep.com slash NLU code NLU. TC you watch a lot of the olds this week. I did. Siodo was a really good, really good setup. It was, you know, it was like pars were well earned.
Starting point is 00:59:45 It was tough to make a birdie out there. It's just a good course to have an event like this. Podrig ran away with it. Blockie was out there doing it. Blockie made the cut. He's trying to make a go of it. Blockie's doing a lot of things right now. we'll get to the what is it the the the the the the yg your golf tour your golf tour got
Starting point is 01:00:07 it's got to be your golf tour another thing DJ was reading about 1130 at night is a really 38 year old man yeah uh I saw a tweet of grant horvatt that was talking about the I'm so uh you know I've really been thinking hard about this Michael block situation and yada yada I was like I what a thrill I have no idea what this could be what a what a thrill to catch up on I don't know if we I'm sorry to jump your U.S. senior open take. There was a, so your golf tour, I probably don't need to explain because millions more people are watching that than listening to this show. But yeah, there was a little segment on, it sounded like the last episode for we got
Starting point is 01:00:45 some hot mic audio from Blocky just talking about, he's just cursing himself out, came all the way here to play nine holes, a lot of F bombs, just guys are compared to a complete competitor. I guess some people didn't take that the right way. but as a, you know, this is a very pro-blocky show, always has been, always will be. So I love seeing the grit and the guile from the crafty veteran. I'm so mad that that tweet made me go, oh, let's go check out what actually happened here. And I watched it. I was like, oh, God, they totally just got me.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Like what? They got a view out of that. He missed you as Garner. You should have said Garner attention and not Garnish attention. Oh, Garnish would be. That's another hook that got you. He got a response out of you, T.C. that's that's all he could have ever asked for so he got you i think block he finished what t 31
Starting point is 01:01:32 yeah t 31 71 72 70 70 70 he belongs out there man i want to see him getting his card give him as many exemptions as he needs give him special temporary membership uh stew sink finished finished second he was he was uh four back of podrig not go to live like how did that not ever come to fruition And then you got, the way Liv's going to pivot, they might be just looking for exactly blocky. The whole YGT might keep their antenna up. Might just, yeah, it's just come live. Why don't you just buy that?
Starting point is 01:02:10 Yeah. And then Bryson posted those, those Fourth of July picks that looked like a name. Were those real? Yeah, it looked like a. Like it just came alone and a bunch of hot dogs. I'm so far behind. the Bryson stuff. I know he had the video about his whole his performance recently. It's just, I haven't watched that. Yeah. It's good unplugged every now and then. I've felt pretty
Starting point is 01:02:37 unplugged this week. I feel behind on a lot of things, but I do not regret any of it. I want to give a shout out, George McNeil. He was, he was, he was third. Ian Poulter, solo fourth. Poulter, final round 67, three of his four rounds under par. Actually, was it par 70? he has par 70s yeah three of his four rounds under par so he's playing some good golf kind of crazy that jack johnson skipped u.s senior open to play the john deer fifth major yeah five majors on each tour come on i mean that's great yeah uh podrick had some quotes podrick had some great quotes talking about he said yeah i'm playing eight in a row at the moment this is number four he said when i'm 70 years of age i won't regret playing an extra event
Starting point is 01:03:23 who wouldn't want to do what i do every tournament i turn up to It's in the best condition that golf course can be for us. Everything is looked after. Everything is like as good as it can be. So each week I play golf and I have to try to remind myself of this. Each week I play golf is like for a normal person who's into their golf, they would save all their money to have that one week's holiday a year. And I get to do it 30 times a year.
Starting point is 01:03:44 That's not lost on me. I love playing golf. I love being out here competing. Yeah. So I don't have a problem playing lots of events. Like when I started as a pro, 28 tournaments was your standard. It's really got lost in this world. the idea of only playing 20 tournaments or something like that.
Starting point is 01:03:57 It was always 28 pretty much a standard back in the day. Hell yeah. It's great. Excellent perspective. Padraig. Padreig rocks. Yeah, he needs to be like the ombudsman of golf. I feel like we need to just,
Starting point is 01:04:12 we might need him just weighing in on every topic. Just so we have a bad take. That's what I mean. Probably. But at least it's like full, it's full from the chest. It's well thought out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Yeah. A couple of notables. Hank Keeney played. Missed the cut, but 74-76. Hames Snedker. Yeah. And he was a low-am. Yeah, so he gets into the AM.
Starting point is 01:04:35 He gets into the mid-am. But he was in our group in the first round of the Gasparilla. Really? He was playing with Ben. And it didn't go great for Ben. You've seen the video. But like, Hames, like, well, after the afterward, like, saw me out afterwards. He's like, hey, tell your boy to keep his head up.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Like, he's a really good player. Like, even after a. really horrible round yeah it was actually really nice like he did he did well in terms of like handling a like a disaster round on camera really really well so i made sure to tell ben that but that's awesome hames hams got a fan in my book nice also i should probably tell this at the pjah championship i he kind of looks like toddie anderson and i went up to toddy anderson and i didn't realize this for like an hour afterwards and i thought it was hames and uh totally said like hey yeah good to see you and And Todd Anderson acted like that, you know, I caught it by the wrong name.
Starting point is 01:05:28 It was horrifying. I'm sure you said you called him Hames. Yeah. Oh, that's terrible. That's tough. That's really unambiguously wrong. I'm so into the Gasparilla. Remember we played in the same group?
Starting point is 01:05:38 Did he say anything or did he just kind of out and went along with it. It didn't make me cool. It was like a fake Seth law situation all over again. Hell yeah. I did see Pat Perez finish T8 as well. just a lot going on in Perezland right now and then Paul stankowski T5 along with Jamie Donaldson and Reteef Gousson it's just a menagerie of characters one leaderboard I think every time I put him on the channel like
Starting point is 01:06:09 Darren Clark oh it was kind of a fun watch how it happens guys is how you get old start recognizing some of those oh that guys out there great man I got to turn this man I got to turn this thing on this afternoon love these guys It's gonna it's gonna happen. Oh, Justin Thomas is up there playing? Oh, I used to love one. Oh, Justin Thomas was it, was it at the swift Kelsey nuptials? That's right.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Oh, man. We do a whole, you guys gonna do it? I'm surprised the trap draw wasn't on location for that one. I'm good. That's Randy's block. Yeah, it is. Randy's gonna have to wear that, honestly. There's a massive, a massive, a massive Swifty.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Sallie, take us to Munich. I watched a little, I've watched just like, weird amounts of golf this week because I always had the TV on for World Cup. So I'm just watching other stuff. And that course in Munich, it like had these bizarre pawns and stuff. Yeah, it was kind of a sick finish too. I didn't get to watch anything beyond some of the highlights. But Michael Hollick, a 39-year-old rookie on the DP World Tour,
Starting point is 01:07:12 finished Bertie Eagle to win by one over a little, I checked the board this morning. I was scrambling around this morning. I said, oh, finally, Henny Duplessis is going to win one. Like he needs to do plus C. Duplice. He's going to win one. You know, he keeps getting screwed. He got screwed out of like three different tournaments at the early part of the year.
Starting point is 01:07:31 He's got finally going to win. No, sure enough, Holic Eagles, the last hole is Duplice bogeed 17 and then didn't birdie 18. But 39-year-old, he basically like kind of gave up golf a couple years ago to continue coaching. His, his like tournaments, if you go back and look at what he's been playing in a lot lately, he's been playing on the on the african tour not even the sunshine tour i don't think or is that i don't know how you how these events get classified he did tc recently when this was important the the fnb swatini challenge um eswitini of course formerly known as suzisian this is the sunshine tour i can i can't confirm okay all right well i they call it's a national challenge
Starting point is 01:08:14 uh on data golf i probably should have know the difference in that anyways looks like he also won something They're not called the Courier Guy playoff playoff series as well TC. I don't know if you're across this one. I'm not familiar with the courier guy, but given my trap draw, if he's related to points guy, maybe. Anyways, extremely surprising winner, first time winner in that one. He almost gave up the game and then he realized he's a golf holic. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:08:45 T.C. Did you know about this European swing? like it's right up your alley i was i didn't i figured that the dp world's toward european door was mostly a european swing um tell me more eugenio chakara clinched what i'm just fighting out is the european swig which gets him into another thing called the back nine uh which is the remaining nine events in in phase two of the seas plus it got him a two hundred thousand dollar bonus and got him into the scottish open uh as well so chakara will be playing this week in the scottish open but which is his aesthetic is good it's getting really good looks like he's straight out of like the late 50s early 60s just wearing like a like a pretty i uh southern hills you know
Starting point is 01:09:39 logo and then he's got got another logo on and he's just wearing this kind of ill-fitting stuff and just a hair hair hair coming out of everywhere like every every every which direction he's smoking unfiltered it's a good look we need this guy involved around like out a he is around he's got game man he's on the four five you know the remaining the european swing sounds like when there's just so many ideas that get hucked on this podcast that you know the dp world tour is the only one that ever ever does any of them and then you see something like this like wait what the what is this what's funny too they go to oh god no get rid of that what is this thing so the next few weeks are right in you know right in the middle like you have the Scottish Open and the
Starting point is 01:10:24 Isko and then and then the Open Championship and the Punta Kana which is also co-sanctioned but then they go to Denmark they go to Great Northern and Denmark but that's not part of the European swing nor the back nine nexo and the Danish golf championship are just like these standalone events like the wind up and then and then the back nine is the Husk Varna british masters hosted by Sir Nick Faldo at the belfry that's a tournament name the courier guy then the omega European masters which obviously rules then the Irish Open which is a dunebag this year then BMW PGA then the French Open then the Dunhill links then the Spanish Open then the DP World India Championship at del at Delhi golf club and then the
Starting point is 01:11:15 Genesis championship and then they go to the playoff That's your Abu Dhabi and Dubai. The remaining open championship spots go to Henny Duplice, Berench Wiesberger, Jaden Schaper, Andy Sullivan, and Dan Bradbury. These are the top five in the race to Dubai that were not already exempt. Last note, I had Joselle Biaster was the latest to say he will be pursuing DP World Tour membership next year. Quote, we don't really know what's going to happen with Liv. I mean, I believe it's going to stay around.
Starting point is 01:11:43 But even before these rumors came out, my idea was to get dual membership and play on DP as much as I could so you got some uh we had open championship qualifying uh this past week as well sergio garcia famously did not uh qualify after eating some bad lasagna in between 18s on a 36 whole day at west was this at west was this at west lynx yeah like hey like who eats lasagna between rounds like it just doesn't seem like a good thing to eat between rounds i feel bad for the folks at west lengths you know they've done done nothing wrong it is an unfortunate drive-by yeah it stinks it stinks uh dean bermister listed southern guards golf club as his official club but he played out of like everybody's listing you know
Starting point is 01:12:32 medalist you know the ls club or uh you know it's great track southern the right the right you play the Rhino watering hole. It's a stroke 78 for the tips. Do you see, you should see if you could talk to the USGA about listing Kleeks Golf Club as your official where you play out of. You set that thing through earlier this, this week where you'd played what, like 35 rounds at 31 different golf courses or something like that this year. You should, you might need to just sanction yourself as a member of the Kleeks Golf Club. Just the international. A resident of the world.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's a couple other. Burnham and Barrow hosted, which I've never played there. Sally, have you played there? No, I've never played there.
Starting point is 01:13:19 That's out west. I think they had like a huge wave split between that, but James Nicholas, Austin Truisloe, Caleb Serrat. Like, it seems like some of these younger live guys are starting to find some form and realize like,
Starting point is 01:13:35 man, like I should probably play events. Yeah, qualifying events. Yeah. Shout out to Chihara. Yeah. We had Royal Sync ports.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Um, co-medalist Bard, Bjorn, Bjornvik Skogan, the 770 first ranked player in the world. Uh, won, won that one. Um, Matthew Southgate, Peter Uline, another under live guy, uh, Antoine Rosner, West Lanks. Um, and then we had Dun Donald as well. Dun Donald played, played the most difficult. Um, and then Matthew Baldwin, another Southport. pro qualified out of there. So we'll have two,
Starting point is 01:14:18 two pros from Southport, him and the great man Tommy Fleetwood playing at Berk. Yeah, I feel like one of you guys said this, maybe earlier this week, but Uline qualified for the U.S. Open, right? As did James Nicholas famously. I think you should get some sort of medal if you qualify for both opens.
Starting point is 01:14:34 If you get through qualifying for both opens, that you should get something. That's a good feat, an underrated feat. Couldn't agree more. Also, like those, Those guys should all be going down to the Australian Open. Make it a triple, triple-header. You know, early December.
Starting point is 01:14:51 I should Goder up. Goder up should go down there. Ball on the ground, baby. Also, this is Per Schauchelford. He had a good note on West Point graduate and U.S. Army veteran Marcus Plunkett. Rarely played golf for five years when he served, including six months in Afghanistan.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Now ranked 759th in the world and trying to make it on the Asian tour. He qualified in as well. At Todd Dunnold. So good one. But yeah, and then they, I guess they're doing that final qualifier.
Starting point is 01:15:18 I was going to ask if you've officially, have you issued a public statement on where you stand on this, the last chance qualifier for the Open Championship? Well, it sounds like they're making the alternates play in it as well. And like, I think kind of debased themselves. Also,
Starting point is 01:15:35 there's a Brad Dalkey tracker that's gone nuclear as well. That just got across that. It's probably busy this week. Dolky, He finished like 30th or something. It was he like 65, 69 or something? Yeah, he played. Played all right.
Starting point is 01:15:48 In Munich? Yeah. Not a great weekend. But great. But yeah. Tough weekend, but impressive stuff. And then we had some guys at Wimbledon. We had some great men at Wimbledon.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Bjorn, L.D. L.D. and Rory were playing down at St. Anadoc as well, which looked delightful. She was there, I think, a bunch of Jane. But we had, you know, Roy was wearing the green jacket. A little bit worried about Tommy's pant length. The tailoring on his suit pants was not great. Then you had the great man, Team Rose, and the great man, Dodo, Molanari.
Starting point is 01:16:23 It is interesting to see these guys. Yeah, man, they're always making public appearances with each other. I don't see Team USA kind of doing, I don't know. I'm not seeing them do a lot. You know, there's not a lot more spring break, 2K, whatever year that was going on anymore. I'm not seeing many of those. I need to have some unofficial... Maybe he got it or can bring it back.
Starting point is 01:16:45 J.T. should skip Taylor Swift's wedding so he can be there for Jordan Speath when he finishes T-58 at the John Deere this week. I need those two together at all times. Oh, you're where I'd rather be. Guys, I got other news just breaking across the wire. Push shot 69 today at Sewell Park in his match. Better make sure that's posted, Push. That's the only thing you got going for you is the high index. That's the only reason you get out of some of these matches.
Starting point is 01:17:10 All right. Man, that's incredible. Solly, what's the deal on this Hunter Mayhan comeback that's getting teased? I don't. So that's like a, that's a, what do you call it? A me, not a, um, it's been going around on Instagram, like the theme of that video of like doing the fake documentary of like. So I got got. I probably.
Starting point is 01:17:34 I don't think he was being serious about posting about a return to golf, but I think it was, I don't know. I could be wrong. I don't think he's returning to golf, but. Yeah, there's a lot of those going around. Which camera do I look at? Which one? I get a lot of that on my twin algorithm that I'm on. And they filmed the documentary about what it was like to have twin toddlers. We have a major championship coming up this week on the LPJ tour.
Starting point is 01:17:58 It's the Evian, of course. We are in a very, very, very tight window on the LPJ tour. I wanted to do a little odds preview looking at that. No odds listed anywhere here. As of Sunday night, unfortunately. But Grace Kim won last year. nipped a Gino Titicoon at the buzzer with a chippin eagle. It was a ridiculously exciting tournament at the very end.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Evian, not the most amazing Thursday through Saturday watch, but almost always delivers a great finish. I used to be super out on Evian. I've come a long way the last couple of years. It's an interesting, weird, quirky golf course. I still struggle sometimes of elevating to a major level, but I think Evian over Chevron for me, like clears it easily.
Starting point is 01:18:42 of uh and usually some weird fun things happen it's got a weird 18th hole that's reachable par five that uh just dramatic stuff happens like a funnel pin every time so um it it's it's hard to get jacked up for this tight of this many majors uh in in a very tight period on the on the women's tour but again another chance for nellie to win a third major of the year she's obviously going to be the favorite and she doesn't have the best track record at the avion but she's got the couple top 10s in looks like eight or nine events here. And this is by far
Starting point is 01:19:14 Gino's best record. Yeah. In a major as well. So let's get weird. I think I'm, I'm in on the Evian over the women's PGA at this point too. It's the third best major. Let's revisit that this coming weekend
Starting point is 01:19:30 because I can probably get there with you. But it took me longer than it should have for me to be pro Evian. I think last year was like, this is sick. This is awesome. But also, just it, it's a, they don't cover it very well. Like, remember they were on a delay of like five minutes at one point. And like, so it, it can, it can get hurt a lot by the Golf Channel, NBC, Sky, whatever link that. Which, Sally, if we're going to call balls and strikes, I do have to do it.
Starting point is 01:19:58 CBS was not good this week. And I just want to get that on the record. They were, you know, it never helps when you have the B team on. I don't mind Nobelo in there. Catalan, whatever. He had a bad call on 18. It was like, didn't meet the moment at all. But it just felt like it was a malicious abuse of playing through today.
Starting point is 01:20:17 And just poorly timed commercials and that sort of thing. Like, this should have been right down the middle. Straight down the middle. Straight down the middle. Yeah. On nights like these, we have to be. Objective and consistent, right? Yeah. A couple other quick notes. Sony officially transitioning into a champions tour event. I think we saw that one coming from a mile away.
Starting point is 01:20:47 You guys are going to be pumped about that based on your reading of some of those champions names that were going around earlier. I mean, Tommy, Tommy Ganey. Yeah, win, win. Like a key. Maybe Robert Allen can show them around. Operation Santa's naughty list. Do we even want to get to this one? David Rumsey for front office sports. reports reported that a spokeswoman for Phil Mickelson provided them with a statement regarding last week's report from Alan Shipnuck and scratch. It's 738 words.
Starting point is 01:21:17 I'm not going to read it. It was a bad statement. You're just not going to read out loud. I'm not going to read it out of the record. It didn't make me, I don't know what the goal of this statement was. I guess it's to the thing they keep doing out of this camp is just rip on unnamed sources, as if they aren't, you know, that's not how reporting is done. But it did not leave me thinking like that there were any holes in the reporting at all.
Starting point is 01:21:44 If anything, it was like, oh, God, okay, you guys don't have anything to fight here. I would not have released this statement at all. It's tough getting to the bottom of one of those statements. I feel like this guy probably did all this stuff. Like, after read this, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. It's, I can't imagine what you have to pay to, to have. have a staff who writes a statement like that and then to read it where it just feels like you're
Starting point is 01:22:11 obfuscating and you're trying to well actually the most pedantic shit ever. It just was just very strange read. Maybe Luke Elvey wrote it. Possible. That's kind of how it sounded. Yeah. Yeah. Scratch replied, you know, going point for point on a lot of that stuff. But I think we can we can kind of move, move past that one in general. So up next, of course, we have the Scottish Open on the PGA tour and the DP World Tour as well. I got a little tease here. We got the Isco as well as well as always go of course the Hurstborn ultimatum. Can I show you guys a little something here coming in the shop this coming Friday? There you go. Gotta get really close. There's a little bird here little bird on sitting on top of this NLU Holderness and Bourne shirt.
Starting point is 01:22:58 These are all birds checkered throughout it. It's coming to the shop this Friday store. What kind of bird is it? Yeah, what is it? It's a green feathered quail. I have no. I don't know birds. I don't know birds. I don't know birds. Guys. Can I tell you? I've been getting on ironically pretty into it recently. It just, just can't stop looking at him. Can't stop listening for them. This is how all these bits end up going because you just make so many jokes about it and you think about it so much. And then I was like, well, I'll read something about, well, how do you actually know the difference? Well, I wonder what call that was. And then you download the Merlin Bird ID app and you start just like really, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:23:33 It's kind of a runaway train. But you're not following my way. bird guy on the ground yeah you're doing it all wrong too he's best thing going out there right now my mom would agree i think so uh that's going to do it for this week uh we'll be back next week recapping scottish open of course in evion and then we are on to the open championship we're going to have some berkdale stuff uh coming this week i still got some work to do to get those finalized vacation man a week of vacation we'll put you behind pretty quickly but we will get that done we'll have our best open championships draft as well I've got two of the votes are in so far for what's already been recorded here.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Got to work on the rest here. How many judges do we have? We're still figuring that out. We don't know that yet. We don't know that yet. It's only anything you want to tell the folks, do you want to say anything about your state draft? Oh, not at all.
Starting point is 01:24:27 I was drafting for myself completely. I don't. You don't like paying state income tax. I got on the, you know, I said, you know, there's not, a lot for New York, you know, beyond the big city. And I don't know, I don't remember exactly what I said. It's not, not for me.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Like, it's just not for me. Like, I get that there's great golf. I get that there's a whole lot of God. New York's just not for me. I feel uncomfortable in New York. And I wasn't interested. I'm not interested. You're going to feel even more uncomfortable in New York now.
Starting point is 01:24:52 That's fine. That's totally fine. And it's exactly that attitude that contributes to all of this. That's, I feel even more justified. And Hawaii is a first rounder. It just felt like such a, such a luxury pick. was drafting for me, man. I wasn't drafting for you.
Starting point is 01:25:08 That's what made it beautiful. All right. You know a thing or two about bad drafts, T.C. You're in 11th right now in our fantasy baseball league, okay, with all the draft picks. Okay. He's got a massive return, though. Can you guys, congrats on Yuri's start today, too. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Yeah. So, all right. Cheers. All right. That is going to do it. And me, my Braves fans, we are monitoring the situation of what's going on here. We are monitoring that one. just to yeah well the steepsters here coming out here in a couple weeks as well but yeah a lot of
Starting point is 01:25:40 a lot of a lot of things to revisit about the braves anyways that's going to do it thank you very much for tuning in we'll see you back here next week crack on cheers

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