No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1184: Linksmaster Tom Kim and Haeran Ryu goes back-to-back

Episode Date: July 13, 2026

Tom Kim is the Scottish Open champ after a marathon Sunday at the Renaissance Club with a final round 64 which gave him a two shot win over Min Woo Lee. We assess Kim’s bounce back after a rough 2025, poke at TC with a Tom Kim v Ludvig comp before going down the leaderboard including Scottie’s missed cut and the Trackers getting in their feelings. From there, we head to France to recap the Evian where Haeran Ryu defeats Brooke Henderson in a playoff to win her second consecutive major. We close with some takes on Scott O’Neil’s latest interview as he looks to secure future funding for LIV, and some assorted news and notes headed into Open Championship week. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro + Scottish Open Recap 49:30 - Evian Recap  1:13:00 - Reaction to Scott O’Neil Interview + News & Notes Support our Sponsors: Titleist AT&T Club Glove If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Nest⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠nolayingup.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club today. That's better than most. How about him? It is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast. Sali here.

We are going to be recapping the Scottish Open, the Evian championship, a teeny tiny peak ahead to the Open Championship this coming week, joined by my esteemed colleagues, Mr. Big Randy. Hello, Big. How are you?

Happy Sunday. Yeah, happy Sunday to you. We're doing this little early. Love these British and European events finishing. So excited to get going here, Solly. Thanks for having me on your program again. Maybe that is part of the reason why we have in such good spirits around the Scottish Open and the Open Championship. We get Sunday nights with our families. T.C. is here. Hello, T.C. Hi, you guys are given the ISCO short shrift. You know, they just teed off. They're in Louisville. And my guy, Z.J. is. going for a senior major this afternoon this evening as well. So, I mean, Randy, we got big golf going on tonight, too. That's true. That's true. Thank you. There will be plenty to watch here, but a chance for us to put a recording in the can here.

As mentioned, we also have a three-way tie currently on the Corn Ferry Tour. Matthew Anderson, Noah Goodwin, and Tommy Morrison. Tie that's something called the Blue Championship, which is just coming across my desk. Is that the one in Colorado? It is TPC Colorado. That's right. Lucas Glover is leading the Isco as we speak in. As you mentioned, ZJ is lucky to lock down the calling companies championship, which is a major?

It's the senior players. Okay. And they're moving it away from Firestone. It's the last tour event at Firestone, possibly ever. After like 72 years or something like that. The roads have been beaten up Ohio the last few weeks. They have. senior open at Toyota

and to Akron. Yeah. Major inflation's getting out of control, guys. On that note, Hayda and you wins the a Monday Evian championship.

Back to back major championships for her. We're going to talk about that. But of course, Tom Kim wins the Scottish Open, the Genesis Scottish Open. A quick run-through of Tom Kim's equipment setup.

He plays the ProVue 1X golf ball. He loves the higher flight. He gets with it. Feels like he controls. Spend more with his irons with the X. It's now 12 wins. for title of golf ball players over the last 13 weeks on the PGA tour. We say this like every week and it doesn't get any less amazing.

It's also another win for new GTS drivers. Tom Kim has the GTS3 model, gave him a ton of spin consistency and more speed than his previous gamer. Also one of over 65 players on the PGA tour, who has made the move to the new GTS drivers. He's also got a GTS3 wood and five wood in the bag. And from there, he goes into his T-200 utility and a full set of T-100 irons.

He's got three Voki wedges and a Scotty Cameron, Newport 2-style blade putter. You got to love that, T-C's guy still in a blade putter. Titleist.com to find a fitting near you, get your setup dialed like our guy, my guy, TC's guy, Tom Kim. Sally, I will say,

I was impressed the height that he got on the shot, on the approach shot into 10. He had a tree between him and they were, between him in the hole and they were they were asking like oh man he's he's got tree trouble he's gonna have to go around this and he hit it 200 yards probably 30 feet over this tree like no issues whatsoever and i was like damn i didn't know tom kim got down like that the only way we can get tc to pay tom kem a compliment is if it's tied in with the sponsor so i appreciate that tc he's he's he might be the links master he's it got some interesting stuff let's let's break down the day here

So fog delays on Saturday, forced, you know, obviously delays and it led to some early golf on Sunday to finish round three. It was a jam-packed leaderboard to start the day. Kind of a, you know, kind of a dull finish, but it was very jam-packed to start the day. Bob McIntyre, Min-Mooley, and Matt Fitzpatrick were all tied for the lead to start round four. Tom Kim was won back. Rory started T-26 after a disappointing third round 73. He got hot, though, in round four, shot of 64 with a couple of bogeys in there, ultimately finished tied for seventh. Round four was Tom Kim, the Tom Kim story.

He went out in 32, then turned around as TC mentioned, birdied the 10th hole, one of only two birdies on the 10th hole on the entire day. Made birdie on the par 512th. Hit probably the highlight shot of the day on 16 to 4 iron from 203 yards, just six feet, rolled in the birdie. It was the hardest hole of the day. It yielded just five birdies. And it put a little bit of space between him and Min Wu Lee,

who was the only one within shouty distance. He could only garner two birdies on the back nine. It was the two easy holes, the par five and the drive-able fourth. It could not get any closer. Fourth, career PGA Tour win for Tom Kim, who just turned 24 years old, over a thousand days since his last win, which is a wild stat for some of this 24 years old. Also, the playoff loss to Scotty Sheffler in a signature event in 2024 at the Travelers and a pair of top three finishes in major championships.

and a multi-year slump, like a true decline in his play for multiple years. It's just a wild record to have as somebody that has just turned 24 years old. And I feel like it's been a long time since we've seen somebody have this much success prior to turning 25 on the PGA tour. And it's just, it's a weird one to talk about because of the slump that's also been in there. But it's a pretty spectacular record now. Is he back? Is he back to the player that we saw three years ago when he was, you know, obviously on the rise and making all this noise. What went by the wayside? What was the thing that really left him? It was kind of all of it,

really. I mean, I know, so he came out and it had all the success, but he was had like a 160 ball speed. It was like the lowest on tour. And I don't want to say, you know, he just went off and, uh, and was chasing distance. But it, it, you know, he was looking to add speed. He did add some speed to his game. Uh, if you looked at just his overall, you know, he, when he was a, he was a really strong iron player in 2023 in his most successful season. That dipped a little bit into 24 and it dipped really hard into 2025. That has definitely bounced back into 2026. The putting also just kind of was in decline. It was just kind of a decline of pretty much everything. But I mean, it was it was significant. I know the stuff never sounds that significant, but 1.34 shot dip from 2023 to 2025.

That's five over five shots of tournament. And that's the difference in being competitive on the PJ tour and not really being competitive at all. It's not, his overall season numbers this year are not like all the way back to the most successful that we've seen of him. But obviously he's had the solo third finish at the US Open. He had T-15 at the Canadian Open as well less than a month ago. Not a great finish of John Deere, but now a victory. He's playing in Myrtle Beach just a couple months ago.

Like he was top 10th at the Myrtle Beach instead of in that signature event. And now T.C. is talking about him winning an open championship. I said there's some concerns I have that he may snag an open championship because I think that these links courses are such a great fit for him with being a little shorter off the T relatively accurate with the driver and a great iron player and everything we're hearing about burkdale for next week it is very very very firm and baked out like it's been hot and dry and there's a lot of holes out there that I was talking to a few guys this week that like they said they're struggling to find the advantage to hitting driver on a lot of the holes so I think it brings

a shorter hitter like Tom Kim into the mix like that and you know like by all accounts myself included a premium iron player he is now I just hope that the I hope that the RNA has the courage to put him on the clock because he has not gotten any faster. We just did a rules podcast that's going to come out in the coming weeks. And that's just going to be a very funny thing to what you hear that. It's going to be a very funny thing to circle back on. Solly, what do you think? My inclination here is young guy finds success on tour for a whole host of reasons.

You know, you come into a ton of money, a ton of new fame, a ton of success like not shocked that his his game dipped and now we're seeing him recover and and he's certainly back on the upswing i mean could could that be attributable to it at all what do you make of this sallie i think it was the juplinks run uh in tgl i think that has to be what what boosted it obviously the whole and one i don't i don't know why i do consider myself a fan of tom kim uh he's punchable at times but in general i don't mind him i like his spirit you know it it's not, again, it's not perfect. He's not a player I'm idolizing in any way, but he's not malicious. No, he's harmless. I think that's a good way to put it. Yeah, he means well, I've always had a

good time. He's been on the podcast. We shot a video together and he was pretty self-effacing. And we had, you know, he did the night night thing in our little titles video that we did. And we lost, we didn't, we missed the challenge. He's like, he's like, damn it, I'm over two doing the night night thing. Like, he's pretty, I don't know. He's a young guy. He just has been in our, he's been around for for a while now and it just doesn't feel like you know i was i was absolute shithead when i was 24 years old and so he's been you know give it a little give him a little room to a little bit of grace to mature uh and it you know it was a um it still just is a fragile playing profile right if you're not a real long player and you're not like a really good putter it's just is

it's it's just hard to maintain i think kind of what in his skill set at the highest level of professional golf, even as talented as he is, it's just, it's not that surprising that he would go away for kind of a relatively significant period of time. There's just not a lot of, it's not a high floor for Tom Kim, but it's hard to, it's really hard to argue with the top level record here. And I'm going to show something on the screen here. And T.C. you're not going to like it. Like, I'm going to warn you, you're really not going to like it. But we, several years ago, we've had this conversation, you know, we've, for whatever reason, we've compared Tom Kim to Ludwig. and the career records

Tom Kim to Ludwig well the career records here are are the tail of the tape here I may need Randy to weigh in on this one so this this this screenshot here is from data golf it is not updated for today's win

so that will be four PJ tour wins for Tom Kim instead of the three that it shows we have two for Ludwig Ludwig has one DP World Tour win Tom Kim has six other wins Ludwig's got two this will be 10 total wins for Tom Kim

professionally to Ludwig's five and the weighted total wins, which kind of, you know, basically is saying, we're not giving you a ton of credit for these others. That will be four to three at this point. And data golf points are going to be almost exactly the same after counting this victory at this point in their careers, with Tom Kim being almost three years younger than Ludwig. I think that's a little bit disingenuous,

given that Tom Kim's been playing for, like, his professional careers, like twice as long as Ludwig. at this point. I know he's younger, but he turned pro at 18, right? Yes, but you know, Ludvig's entire, you know, career has been post this age that Tom Kim is at right now, right? I mean, that's the kind of, I don't know, it's interesting. They're not similar players and they're, they're not similar, really anything other than it's a pretty, it's a really impressive record that Tom Kim has accumulated without.

He's not going to be top of the odds going in next week. Yeah, he's not going to be shorter odds than Ludwig next week. I don't think he's a better player than Ludwig, to be clear. He's not nearly as consistent. It has much lower ceiling, I think. But you just hard to argue with the tail of the tape at this point. It really, it really is. I'm ready for you to weigh in here, big.

What do you? You're big. You need the dubs. You know, you have to. The wins are the thing. I don't know. I mean, it's it's staring us right in the face there. This is Tom's fourth win.

Ludwig has two. I mean, sure. If they're going out and playing 10 rounds against each other, might I take Ludwig? Well, it depends on the course, but that's certainly the safer pick. But I think there is something to be said about Tom's ability to win golf tournaments. And I don't want to discount that. You know, T.C., you mentioned Burkdale baked out. I'm not saying he'll win, but when you are a great iron player and he's very good around the greens, you know, when you get to a place where driving distance doesn't matter as much, you find a hot week or a couple weeks with the putter, good on Tom for closing these wins.

I think that's impressive. And so I don't know how you could look at it right now and not give the nod to Tom, given the ages and the PGA Tour wins. Give him the nod for what? Like just best career so far? Better results, better career results for this. He's got 176 OWGR,

like eligible starts. Ludwig's got 92. A lot of those were new is like 17 to 19 years old. A lot of them on the Asian tour and. All right. Then let's then let's count Ludvig's wins at Texas Tech then too. DC let's. Well, I'm not even bringing in Tom's Asian tour wins. I'm just saying the guys just barely turned 24 years old and he's won four PJ

tour events like it's as simple as that. No, I know. I'm just saying and love you might start compiling them. But until he does, I, I think you got to, I mean, you got to tip the cap here. I just, I brought this up because I love that Randy loves to, to, you know, poke at the, that Ludwig's feasting off that one runner up at the masters. Like that line always sticks with me.

He's absolutely feasting off. Well, he's gotten into all these signature. I feel like he's kind of the modern poster child. He's gotten into the signatures. He's the top, he's top 20 in the world. Yeah. But it's like for just being like, he was the fifth ranked player in the world after 2024 when he was like a rookie I mean

while he was gobbling points up that uh of note the ludvicks 30 to one this coming week for the open championship tom kim has gone all about a 45 to one your boy did nag him at 70 to one uh before that dipped before today happened just because to your point tc of it being a little baked out the guy playing some good golf and got the gotter up thing in my head from last year if you know he went and you know won the sky Scottish and then almost won the open last year. It's just, yeah, not surprised to do those odds. Tom Kim's got shorter odds to win the open this week than Bryson does.

Bryson's 50 to 1 on Fandall. Well, I mean, Bryson just released like a hot dog video and then a video about him like wandering around out in California at the McKenzie Nineholler out there in the woods. Like literally in the wilderness. I don't feel like Bryson's in the best spot to be winning majors. right now. That was a

hilarious and sad performative video that he posted. I think, and listen, I think Tom Kim was dining out for a while on that T2 at the open in 2023, right?

He played really well there. We'll just get it out there with Ludwig. He can't putt. The putter fucking stinks. It's awful right now. And I don't know if it's just the putter. I don't know if he can, like it's got to be like he's changed

the, like he's gone to a mallet. The stroke looks fine. It just feels like he just doesn't, he's either bad at reading greens or he's not marrying up the speed or whatever. But yeah, like, listen, guys, I'm worried and I'm in a pretty precarious spot right now. We got, you know,

Wyndham went in the US Open and Tom Kim. I know. This is unsporting. I know. And Goddra bottled it today. Shot one over par. You know, after, you know, I mean, granted, at least he made the cut, you know, unlike some other quote-unquote dudes.

But yeah, I'm just, you know, I'm backed into a corner right here, guys. I know, this is unsporting of me, T.C. And I don't mean to pile on. Like, I like Ludwig. And so you know I do. I'm not, this is not anti-Ludwig, T.C. I think he's got tools and trades. We just haven't brought them together to win enough yet.

And that, you know, that's kind of my whole point. He's the second best ball striker in the world. As far as I can see, and he just can't get the ball in the hole right now. Who's the best? He sucks. What, Scotty, right? Okay.

Just over the last couple of years. I thought this was a TC ranking. I thought you were just, I thought you were going to say Tommy is why I was, why I asked, but no, I mean, I think subjectively,

I test wise, it'd be Tommy, but I don't know, like, and, you know, I was really impressed with some of Tom Kim's chips today. Like,

he had some nasty, nasty chips out of, you know, they just like that second hop is catching the spin. Like, that's tough to do on link screens. You know who kind of my weird comp, and this is not statistical at all, just kind of the way they play and how I feel when I'm watching them? Do you know anybody come to mind with what you just described there,

TC, of a, of a grindy little player, tough player, somewhat similar kind of physique, shorter player in height, stature. P.

Oh, Yeah, I could see that. It's got just a little bit of P in him. I wish he wanted to be the villain like P, though. I know. He doesn't. Yeah. Like, we need more guys.

Like, I think that's, I think that's Chikara. Chikara is going to be P like the, the mega souped up P. Just, you know, a lot of, just a bad reputation out there. And I hope he leans into it. You want to go down the board a little bit, T.C.? Sure, I'd love to. This was, I don't know. I really enjoyed this week.

Like, I think the, for whatever reason, I don't know what it was about the routing. I felt like we were getting better holes earlier on in the, in the round. It just led to like more engaging viewing as well. And so I watched a lot of this tournament. Min Wu Lee, uh, 66, 66, 66, 66, 67. Um, which, you know, I just, I think with Tom Kim today, like, he shot 64 and just like, didn't. Nobody really challenged him. Keita Nakajima, the former world number one.

Amateur. Sal, you want to throw... Sorry, yeah, amateur world number one. You know, he played good. I don't really have a whole lot to say about him. I enjoy watching Johnny Kiefer. I like his swing. I like his...

I don't know, he's just... I like what he's got going on. And he seems to have found something. And I think played his way into the open, right? He did. He did indeed. So, God, it's the, you're pulling up the leaderboard and, oh, my God. That straight down the middle thing is, is on the PGA.

I mean, it was every, every single commercial break. Oh, straight down. Like, have some respect and come with a new commercial, please for the love of God, Genesis. It's, I mean, it's true, like, it's, it's making me actively against, Genesis. Like I will never buy, you know, it's just like that, that standing in the Hall of Fame commercial a few years ago. Like, man, like I'll pay not to listen to this. I wanted to see more from Fitz today. Fitz, Fitz finished T3 as well. Shot 69, you know, good week for him, like 65, 66, Friday, Saturday. It was kind of a weird week, too, with the fog delay on Friday, a lot of golf

today on Sunday. But Fitz just didn't really didn't really have it today. They got put on the clock at one point too. I was going to say couldn't get a bounce as he was very vocally proclaiming to the camera. He drove it into the bunker on 14

and just said we'd not gotten one bounce to go our way today, which I think technically clears the bar in terms of, you know, that's not quite, this course is unfair. You do need the ball to bounce your way. There's definitely days in Link's golf when it does not. And, you know, you just needed to skirt this bunker.

Just, you know, give me lucky one time. And apparently it was not happening for him. So I will allow that because I probably have said the exact same thing, like in our most recent links trip probably on video. So I'll let that would slide for Fitz. It's a momentum game. He didn't chip particularly well this week either. And I think it was a tough pairing today for him with Min Woo and big shot.

Bob. Big Shot Bob, very, very slow player. They got put on the clock. It's always funny when Fitz, Fitz his group gets put on the clock because he's, you know, top, what top three fastest guys out there. He just gets animated. Big Shot Bob, T3 from him. He, I think he's the one, like he had that eagle on 12, but he should be kicking himself for, he had three, he had four bogeys in a span of six or seven holes there four through ten and and just wasn't playing very good golf and uh but i yeah i wanted to applaud bob on just wearing a normal polo shirt today not like nothing that was just like a god forsaken pattern that you know like what he won in last year um here so uh or was that two years ago when he won the sprinkler ago got our up years ago yeah uh bizarre round for

Rory, you know, he, I think he made, let's see, he made seven birdies through 13 holes. He birded 17 as well, but he also hit just some godawful shots. Um, like he, he went, he went, you know, long on a couple. He had a, he had a straight pole on 16. Uh, he just, I don't know, it was just a strange round of golf. He said, he exclaimed to himself, me like, like, you're, man, you're so bad at golf. I, I felt that deeply. Like, that sounded like some T.C. self-talk. Come on. The self-talk would have been, come on, bro, you bitch. So that would have gone.

But no, like, seemed like he's maybe knocking off a little rust. He was 52nd in approach play this week. First off the T. It seems like it really did feel like he was playing this as preparation for next week. Like, he was shot 64, but was like the pull that he hit on 16, you know, where he had the quote there about that. I think he's like, dude, I kind of don't care about this actual result here. This is all about next week.

And I'm not going to get away with that next week. Talked in his interview afterwards with Amanda saying that he knew what he had to work on, but definitely had some strides to make between Sunday and Thursday to get it right. And just a good look into his mindset. He was at one point this week the favorite for Burkdale. I'm now seeing him at plus 850 at Fandul, Scotty plus 750. But at one point this week, he was lower odds to win the open than Scottie was. Maybe not on Fandul, but I saw it at only one place.

So I was high praise. And honestly, I think he was going to be my pick to win until he said that. I'm so bad at golf day. I'm like, oh, okay. Well, maybe he's not in the place I thought he was. But I thought he was looking primed. And I'd be stunned if he finished outside the top five this week. It's pretty interesting.

He shot 65, 66, the first two rounds without doing anything with his irons. Like, he just made some puts. And so I think if he can figure, figure something out with the irons, he's being good. fat and one. He absolutely chunked one and I forget what round that was, but on par three, he just hit it, you know, so somebody compared it to Frankie Fleetwood trying to get over the water at Augusta on that shot. And for the record, we're not doing a Fedora 5. We will do one this week, but I can't do one before the Isco is complete. It just wouldn't be, it wouldn't be an accurate representation, even though it is a forward-looking index.

Bjornson played well T7 uh they showed quite a bit of him Victor Perez I'd be honest I didn't know he was in the tournament they didn't show him I saw him in a single shot which I and again like CBS is going off of the the world feed like they're not you know they're just taking whatever the world feed is and then putting their own commentary and graphics on it which like I watched a bunch of it in the mornings like on golf channel when it was European tour productions that is such a delightful viewing experience just the they're always finding spectators in the crowd that they just pause on it's much more like watching a tennis match than a than a golf tournament in in the best way the commentary is a vibe yeah yeah it is just a vibe you

feel like you're you know i i don't know why but like again like what you just described there i'm like well wait a second don't you guys just want more golf shots i'm like i do but also they're just like better at setting of i don't know i echo what you're saying there just felt like you're along for a nice cruise of the tournament. They'd just do such a good job of giving you a sense of place. And I enjoyed watching that. It's just, yeah, it's just tactful and tasteful. I think Sam Torrance was on too.

He was great. So, yeah. Otherwise, Si, Si Wu rounds out the top 10. Kevin Roy kind of limped home, but overall good, good finish for him, T-11. Gotter up, like I said, 71, goes from 6th to 5th in the Fed. X cup though, Salli, I know you've been harping on the fact that he's won three times and he's only sixth in the fat X. I just looked up, he said, behind Colin Borkawa?

Like, I would not have, I just would not have guessed that. I really would not have. Borikawa has been feeding, though, in the, the, I know. But still, I just like, if you'd ask me who's having a better year, I would definitely would have said God are up there. But he's got to be, I hope he's, I hope he's rested enough for this week. He's got to be a little, a little toast, little burnt, all this gall. and international travel

and then right into a major championship. I hope we get a good solid effort from them this week. Do you think guys are driving or flying? I was wondering the same thing. Is there not a charter? Do they not have a... I don't know. It's just kind of an awkward,

you know, you'd be going to Edinburgh to... I guess you could fly in a Liverpool and then, or I assume there's something up north there. But there's probably something in Blackpool or something. But yeah, I don't know, just kind of... Drawers thing awkward.

Yeah. P played well. Four rounds in the 60s, 67, or 68, 67, 68, 68. Good to see, like, the world didn't break. He played in a PGA tour event and things. It was fine. Things are great. He tied with Tommy and my guy Dubb at T13.

Francesco Molinari siding, T17. Uncle Yost. Yost Louton. I heard that name a while. Tyrell Hatton, you know, playing in a PGA tour event. Cam Davis sighting. T-21 moves from 2002nd in the FedEx Cup to 188. His game has just gone off a cliff.

And then otherwise, Jordan Smith really faded. He was the one. He was, I mean, I feel like I watched him play a ton of golf on Saturday. And then he was nowhere to be, he shot 7270 on the weekend, nowhere to be found. So going down the board, Foxy, made the cut. played well. Johnny Rombo, T-36. Any concerns there? Why don't we revisit this after this coming week?

I think if he finishes T-36 at Burkdale, I think it is. I mean, there are obviously signs for concern, but I don't know. Well, I want to talk about this tournament in general, but that doesn't, it's not a make or break thing for me for Rambo on a week like this. But if we get a bad week this week, it is time to light the guy on fire. I totally agree. I mean, he tied with Oliver Lindon. The finish my pillow guy.

Rasmus, Sean Norris, one of those guys. This is always, always up there. JT. T50. Did you see Callum Hills? We're pretty far down the board here, T.C. Well, I was going to go all the way down to, you know, Ludwig and Scotty missing the cut. We'll get there. We'll get that.

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and I don't know exactly why. I don't think we can owe it all to the routing change this year, but it does feel like this event is on the ascension. We have kind of poked at it at times with Renaissance being a less than stellar representation of what Scottish golf is like, just the fact that it's a private club and it's designed by an American and it's a modern golf course and there's been some years that, you know, the scoring has been really, really, really low and it's been soft and it hasn't looked a lot like Lynx golf. Didn't really get that feeling watching a lot of it this week. This is maybe as firm as we've seen it play. It's still not quite exactly what I'm picturing with a classic Scottish lynx golf course. But hit with the realities of what it

takes to host a major professional golf event at this time, the on-site, you know, on-site places to stay for people, the space for parking, all of the, you know, you know, the, you know, you know, the sponsor that wants to be there, all the, you know, the club that wants it, all the reasons that, you know, kind of why they play it at this course every single year. It was less offensive to me this go around than it has been in the past. I'm curious if that's a shared feeling amongst you guys. Well, I think it always is just going to suffer from, it's not anywhere close to the highest representation of Scottish lynx golf. So I think it just always starts from a place of disappointment with me.

I mean, you talked about the logistical issues. They need space. They need a ton of stuff to do things with the tournament that have nothing to do with, like, the course itself. So it's one of those words. It's like, I get it. I'm probably like you saw like we get it when it's a little bit more dried out. Like it doesn't offend me. I just, I can't help but feel year after year.

It's like, ah, man, I'd love to see these guys at some different Scottish lynx golf courses. And so I just think it's always colored with a tinge of disappointment for me. Yeah, I think it's very much a, you're just thinking about what if. You're thinking about the possibilities. And I think that's unfair. I mean, A, there should just probably be another links event on the schedule, whether that's the Irish Open or that's co-sanctioned or that's a bigger deal that more guys travel to. Or, you know, every other year move this thing around.

And I get that Genesis wants to have it closer to Edinburgh and all that, but also like, all right, like, let's say that the open goes back to Mearfield. They're not going to have two events right next door with each other in this, you know, just from a buildout logistics perspective. Like, I don't think that works. So I'd love to see them. Like, I loved it when they had it at Castle Stewart that year. That was awesome. Or, you know, there's, there's a bunch of courses on the West Coast that could have it. And I get that logistics are hard, but like, it's not a, it's not a massive buildout tournament, right?

They've done a good job of, A, the, I think the golf course has just gotten more mature. Yeah, they've, they've, they've gotten the mowing lines right. They've grown, you know, they've grown it up in certain spots. They've, they've, like I, you mentioned in our Slack 18, like they need to beef that, that drive up. Everybody's just hitting it straight down the middle. Yeah, there's, four. guys in the bunker all day all Sunday yeah yeah and there's like nine total balls in the bunker on the course the weekend like that that that's where i get to like the whole point of lynx golf is to

avoid bunkers and when it feels very easy to avoid bunker like the best holes out there are ones where they hit a t shot and you're like is that going to catch that that that bunker that i know is over there that one's a magnet and there's just a fair amount of them though that are just like you know hit pretty subpar t shots and it's like you know commentators like oh that's fine there even the wispy stuff's not that that dangerous there. That's the critique of it. But I think it, the floor is higher when it's going to be that firm to the point where I'm like, dude, I enjoyed watching this tournament this week more than I have a lot of the years in the past.

They had some great hole locations. Like I thought, I think they've, they've done a better job of setting this up over the last year or two. And then just generally, I think the, you know, like the field seems to be getting better or, like it just seems like it's got momentum. him. The biggest complaint I have is that these guys never venture out from playing North Barrick. It's just like, it's like the only place they go play. And there's like 20 other courses on that coast that are all awesome. And I just wish they would mix it up a little bit. Like, oh, you know what? Next year we should go to Dunbar or next year we should go to Gullen or, you know, Archerfield or

something like, you know, kill spindy or go to shit, go to muscle world old links like and pay it forward a little bit. I feel like, I feel like North Barrick's doing just fine and they've got, you know, and they're, they're reaping a lot of PR from this week. Spread the love a little bit more. Ridiculous critique, be fair. You know, on courses, the one that I would love, as long as it's out of the open rhoda, would be Trump Turnberry as a, as a spot to host this Scottish Open. That's, yeah, that's where I wondered about, leaving the politics aside, right? Like, and I guess that's the reason why it's not in the open road up but or even like royal aberdeen right or yeah you can have it close to the other big cities in Scotland you know whether that's aberdeen or

glasgow or inverness and it's like i know they're not you know edinburgh like i mean glasgow is a bigger city than ennebrough but like i i don't know i just it's just it seems like they really go back to the well on that hotel on site thing they love having that you know where else is a hotel site, Turnberry. Yeah. Yeah. I, you know, I would say, again, every suggestion I would have would just fly in the face of all the, all the bullshit around professional golf. You know, it's like, you know, Livham's now back in the rhoda, but it hasn't been.

It's like, why can't you get up to live them for one? But, you know, it just, it all does come down to simplicity and familiarity. I mean, like, the, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the unsexy thing, too, is like, just the fact that it is the same golf course is a good recruiting tool for a lot of of players. They don't have to go learn a new golf course and they know what they're getting into and they know what they're traveling to. They know where their family's going to stay. It's a warm-up round. Yeah, and they're bringing families over. Like, that's, again, just the stuff that I don't really care about, but is the nature of the reality of it. But what does the future

of this event look like? We've talked a lot on here about like what happens with the Canadian Open with the new Challenger and championship series on the PGA tour. This one seems even more complicated to me. It's a national open. It is a co-sanctioned DP World Tour event and PGA Tour event. It is a DP World Tour event first, I think is very fair to say. And so what does this event look like into 2028? Is it on the PGA Tour schedule and calendar? Is it a co-sanctioned event? If it is, how do you make this a championship event if you have said, hey, everyone that's on the championship chip track gets in this field, which would be 120, 130 guys, and also have enough spots for all the DP World Tour guys.

Don't really know the answer to that question unless you do something with like a 200 plus person field that starts on two, you know, has two different courses, you know, do some kind of roto like the Dunhill does of three courses or something like that would be kind of the only way I think you could fit both field sizes in there. Otherwise, this is either going to have to break from what is set up. PGA tour event or not be a co-sanctioned event anymore. And I honestly don't know what's going to happen. I imagine a lot of that's up to Genesis, but it's, I feel like this is another one of

these tournaments. It's kind of caught in the middle of this new setup of the PGA tour. And I'm very curious how this one's going to shake out. Totally. I think this is like the, this is the one that's begging for an exception, right? Of a guy that, like, this one doesn't seem to fit within the tears because it's got the co-sanctioning. And like maybe they just, perhaps they just give everybody an exception of like,

all right, you want to play this event. It's not even a PGA tour event. It's just a, you know, it's just a DP World Tour event. But we're going to help juice up the purse and that sort of thing and just make it a Rolex style event. Because, yeah, I don't know. And it's weird too. Like they've got three spots.

You know, obviously Genesis is a sponsor. They, like, they get three sponsor exemptions for Korean PGA tour. And then they did, like, some bizarre sponsor exemptions this week, too, with, like, Charlie Hoffman getting in here. Like, that just didn't, that was such a fucking waste that didn't make any sense whatsoever. It was like Brooks, Scott Jamison, I get, he's Scottish, Padrick Harrington, and then Charlie Hoffman and Danny Willett were the two restricted to PGA tour members. He just didn't sit right with me. But yeah, like, I think that guys are going to want to have a warm-up. Just clarifying, Brooks has came through the DP World Tour, correct,

because he cannot accept sponsor exemptions on the PGA tour. Correct. But, like, I think that this thing's going to need to be, like, guys are going to want to play a warm-up tournament before, like, I don't think that you can disallow guys from playing this event. Yeah. I just hope they keep the momentum going. Yeah, I hope so.

I don't think this would fit outside of the calendar year. You know, they've talked about beefing up national opens outside of the normal PGA tour calendar and into the fall. I can see the Irish Open going that route, but I'd be surprised that the Scottish ended up going that route with the success this event has had just in general. But Rain, do you have any other thoughts there? No, I don't. I was trying to think, I really don't. I really don't. It is interesting because of the links aspect of it.

And guys, it's such a departure from what guys see the rest of the year on the PGA tour. So I was thinking like, yeah, do you kind of like cut it at where the deer fell this year, the John Deer with like the championship track, whatever that event's going to be, go let them play the Scottish Open. And then obviously the Open Championship would be a championship track event. I don't know. But I think that's what's going to be interesting as we get more. details and more information about how this is going to look.

It's a great question. I don't have a good. Well, there's no, like if they're segregated points lists, there's no way you can make, like, include it in the in the points. Right. The hard part for me is I love the co-sanctioned event. I don't think there should be more of those. I'd love the DP World Tour and PJ Tour crossover in there and just seeing,

seeing a guy like, you know, as simple as it is, but like, can he do? plus C playing this week, you know, in the same field as all the PGA tour guys. Just the opportunity guys in the DP World Tour have to play in that field. I don't know. I just find that part fun. And then it feels like that is a where at times felt like the two tours were headed. And it's not where I feel like they are in the roll-up era. So I found that.

Because you could like, yeah, what if hypothetical and I don't necessarily like this idea, but how many spots does the PGA tour get roughly into this co-s sanction event? I think it's like half and half. It's like 65 or 70. So call it like the top 65 guys in the championship. Like what if you just went down the current championship track points list as like a little feather in the cap? Like hey, the top 65 you qualify into this Scottish Open. It's a little tough just saying tough shit to the rest of them.

I don't know if you try to like prop up another links event just to give guys an opportunity to warm up. but I don't know. I guess that's where my mind goes. If it is still co-sanctioned, it's almost like a little race within the race to be able to qualify for the Scottish. What if they had a second track event the same week in Scotland?

That's what I mean. Yeah, go to like some weird like panmere, like go somewhere just like crazy. Yeah, what if you're on the challenger circuit but you're in the major? Exactly. Then what happens? I think it's also something that, like if we're really squinting, it's not really a national open.

I think there's only like six Scottish guys in the field. There's that too. Yeah. It's kind of a national open and name only versus, you know, it's the DP World Tour administering it. It's not, you know, the national golf foundation or federation of that, you know, of that country. So anyways, big news this week. Scotty Sheffler misses his first cut. His cut streak ends at 78.

Thoughts on this. You know, the cut streak, I don't care that much about this stat. A lot of stuff going around on that this week. I think I've flipped actually the opposite side of this. You know, it was like, oh, well, he's playing all these no-cut events. So was Tiger. So was Tiger. And also, was he missing the, let's say there was a cut.

cut in those. Was he missing the cut? He hasn't finished outside the top 25 in like two years. I went back and looked. There would have been no events, even if there was a cut in these signature events. There was no events he was going to miss any kind of cut after two rounds. So maybe we just salute that he's been incredible, on the incredible

incredible run for the last, really dating back to 2022. It was the last time I think he missed a cut at the FedEx St. Jude if I had that right. But I think this gives me license to not pick him this week. I was going to go for the Grand Slam of trying to pick him for all four majors this year and maybe get shut out and i i don't know maybe this is enough to get me off of

uh off of of of riding this one all the way into the ground i'm a little little concerned with that with our guy heading into the open championship what are the current odds what's it at now he's plus 750 today and that that's his fun like those are the longest odds he's had for yeah a major in what a while 10 majors or so i have to go double check that i can get you that in time for our preview but yeah it's it's it's up there yeah i don't love it for our guy i don't know if it's a great way to go into the your major i say you're not our guy yeah maybe you know hopefully pisses them off get a little red ass goddy come back out strong defend tc what can you tell us about this tracker beef that was going on out there this week oh there was um god there was all the trackers were kind of

bitchy this week. The Neil Shipley tracker got really chippy with me. It said, let's see me, let me see here. I said something about Goderup and the,

the Neil Shipley tracker said, you've been a fan of his for less than 12 months. You're not on his wagon, pal. I said, wow, strong words from the checks notes,

Neil Shipley tracker. And then what? There was another, I think the, yeah, two different guys trackers got into a beef. It was Scotty and Rory. You were set, you set that over. Yeah. About Scott.

So Scotty had like a final pot. After he missed a put that was clear he was going to miss the cut. He went to go tap it in. And it was hard to tell if he like blocked at the ball or whiffed one or tapped it in. But was a Rory tracker was mad about this or something like that. Yeah, basically was, you know, know just trying to get as many eyes as possible on it and and and the scotty tracker didn't didn't take kindly to that obviously i hate seeing the trackers we've i will say you've been on uh

you've been on got up for longer than 12 months so i will fight with you on the uh on the on the on the on the on the on the on the on the on the on the on the nil shippley trackler together uh we had double camillo this week both can't lay and bert vizberger missed the cut after shooting 65 to take the first round lead. You just don't get that very often. What are Weesberger shooting the second round? 78. One of them shot 78.

I think it was either him. Yeah, I think Viseberger shot 78. And then final spots for the open through the open qualifying series. I went to Johnny Kiefer as mentioned Michael Thor, Bjornson and Victor Perez were the top finishers in the Scottish this week that did not already have spots booked at Royal Burkdale. And then there's a last chance qualifier is first thing tomorrow morning

at Royal Burkdale 12 players. It's Matt Maloney, Andrew Wilson, Audrey Arnau, John Go, Charles Hunsinger, Sam Easterbrook, Joe Dean, Fraser Jones, Maddie Schmidt, who almost one major this year, Wesley Brian and Aldrich Potkeeter

and Anhell Hidalgo are all playing for one spot in the open at Royal Burkdale tomorrow. If you're in the U.S., it's probably happening before you wake up. I think they're off before 8 a.m. tomorrow morning and it'll probably be settled by them. For my edification, how do you get qualified for this last chance kitchen? There's all sorts of different stuff going down in world ranking. And if you finished, like if you, I think if you went to a playoff for one of the spots,

you automatically, like in final qualifying and lost, you automatically get through or finished one shot out of qualifying. you get through into this. And I think it's going down the alternate list as well. Yeah. Leading to non-exempt players in the OWGR, runner-up of the amateur, providing there's still an amateur, players who missed out in a playoff on final qualifying,

players who finished one position behind those who secured a place at final qualifying and players who were tied for a qualifying place in various events included as part of the open qualifying series, but did not qualify due to a lower position in the OWGR. So basically, have you tied for somebody's spot in the open qualifying series. The spot went to somebody who's higher in the OWGR.

So if you were one of those guys, you got in. So 12 for one playoff on this Monday. That's a sudden death. Bryson playing too. No, 18 holes. 18 holes. Okay, I like that. All right.

Not sure if it's broadcast anywhere. I think it's on RNA TV or whatever. Like they're streaming. One thing I do love about the UK swing, it's fun to see how the tour players take on links golf and if you've got a trip plan to the UK to see how your game travels you've got to do yourself a favor and check out our friends at club glove it's the number one golf travel bag on tour club glove makes the most protective durable and elevated products in golf travel and the traveler bag 100% delivers on that reputation

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I do, guys. The Evian delivers some more drama this year. Always does. Yeah. Viva Le Evian. It looked like we might not get a lot of drama. Hey, Ron Rue, she shot a 60. No, no, no, come on.

You got to do it. Head on you. There's no R in the in the, in the, in the room either. Hate on you. Head on you. Hate on you. They don't, yeah, my apology. Two-time major winner.

Come on, we're going to fight this one. Put some respect on her name. Yeah, she shot a 60 on Saturday. And she had an eagle putt on the last and came up, I don't know, eight inches short. It was in the heart for a 59. She had no idea what her score was. There was a great little, the camera caught her as she's like adding up her scorecard. And she's like, holy shit.

I shot 60, meaning that putt that just came up just short was for 59. That was fun. Anyway, I say all that. Entering the final round today, she held a three-shot lead. She stood at 19 under par, three shots clear of Japan's Aki-Ewy, and seven shots clear of third place. That was Brooke Henderson and Mao Saigo. Honestly, it looked like we were kind of in for a sleepy Sunday.

Not a lot going on up until like the seventh hole. And this is where things started getting interesting. Brooke Henderson makes an eagle on the seventh, and she had birdied the first hole. That coupled with you making bogey on the eighth hole, plus Brooke turning around after eagling the seven, she makes an ace, a hole in one on the par three, eighth. And all of a sudden, that seven-shot deficit to start the day was,

we were all square after Randy she had a nine is a par five and I was thinking she could do the 313 challenge here if she Eagles

had that in France now she parted it so it was it was a move funny and Sally not just a two-time major winner hit on but back to back unbelievable

yeah yeah yeah so all of a sudden what was a pretty you know comfortable lead for you she finds herself tied with brook henderson aki y had a bit of a rough start had an early double but she started making some birdies uh anyway she goes on to birdie nine 14 and 15 to climb up to 18 under par meanwhile hate on you she is just she besides that bogey on number eight it's all pars uh she can't buy a birdie after that saturday 60 and so i'll fast

forward it was a rally killer it was a rally killer yeah So these three women, they're all in the final group together, which is great. They all come to the 17th hole, little par four. They're all tied 18 under par. And this is where things really start to get interesting. You and EY, they both have birdie looks, not great, but they two put for par. Brooke Henderson has a long birdie putt, comes up about three and a half feet short, and misses the little par putt. So she drops back to 17 under.

you and EY are at 18 under. We're going to the par 518th. Definitely getable. Eagles are possible. Both you and EY miss the fairway left. Brooke pipes her drive. She hits the left center, finds the speed slot. So she's got an iron into the green.

She hits a fabulous long iron shot to about eight feet. You and EY, they both wedge onto the green. They both actually, Hadron, was the furthest out, maybe 15 feet for Bertie. EY had a look about 10 feet for birdie. So Haryon goes first. She drips in the birdie put to get to 19 under par. So she's in the house now 19 under. Next up is Aki EY.

She's got to make her birdie putt to join at 19 under. She misses just on the high side. So she's out. And that leaves Brooke Henderson with an eagle put to join at 19 under to force a playoff. She cashes it right in the middle. So we're going to another playoff. at Evian on the first playoff hole.

Hayron tees off first. She hits the fairway. She's in a great spot. Brooke misses the fairway left, forcing her to lay up. Hayron then hits her long iron pretty far right of the flag, but catches the right portion of the green.

Brooke, this was the big mistake. Tugs her wedge, misses the green with her third shot. It's a funnel pit. It's a accessible. accessible hole, yeah. Kind of an an excuseable miss in that situation, gets held up in the rough. So all of a sudden it's, you know, Heyron just needs to two putt for birdie.

Brooks got to somehow chip in. She can't chip in. Hey Ron leaves a little meat on the bone. I mean, I think she had all of three, three and a half feet for her birdie putt to win the Evian. She makes it. And so Hey Ron, you wins her second consecutive major championship in just a couple weeks. She, of course, won the women's KPMG at Hazeltine. It's her second career major championship, her fifth LPGA tour victory.

So she wins. Brooke Henderson is your runner-up. Aki EY is your third place finisher. She was very emotional. She gave a great interview with TC's boy, Tom Abbott. After her round, you could tell how much it meant to her to just miss the playoff, but her best major result so far in her career. And so, yeah, Sali, I think, you know, after the women's KPMG, we were doing the over, under for Heyron.

And I think I said it at two and a half. I believe you went under. I will give you the floor, anything you'd like to say. It's still under right now. So I feel great where we're sitting right now. I think I said it was, you know, one and a half felt too low and two and a half felt too high. I felt like she would win another major. Now do you get to three?

I think it is looking a lot more likely that she will get to three, but you never know. This is where we head out majors too quickly, but a very, very, very quick follow-up. The women's golf schedule sets up really well for if you get hot at the right time. You can absolutely clean up on these. We have the AIG women's open, not far away as well, coming up right around the corner and, you know,

almost a month away, I guess. Now at this point, it's probably one of the longer breaks they get in the women's game between majors on this time of the year. But man, you wait for somebody to try to get hot at the right time to pick off both of these two in a three weeks span and she does it. So I would take the over now, which I didn't previously have. So yes, if you're, you want to rub that one in my face, Brandy, go right ahead. I will flip-flop on that one because the calculus has definitely changed with going, getting one this quickly. So interestingly enough, we have two two-time major winners this year.

So Nelly quarter, of course, won the first two majors. And now, Haydn, you won that one. I was just looking this up, trying to find the last time that happened. Do you remember the last time that happened off the top year? Not two winners in the same time, but just somebody winning two majors in the same year in the women's game. Because we've had a lot of parody lately. And by my count, this has only happened once in the last eight, nine years, at least.

It looks like. Just winning two majors in the same year. Don't have to be in same person. Yeah, exactly. Did Lillia do it? Lillia did do it in 2023. Yeah. And then I know before that,

Jin Yung Co, I believe, won two in 2019. That is correct. Jin Yon Co. did it in 2019. And then it looks like M.B. Park did it in 2015. Was the last time that happened before then. So, so T. Well, a fun note on that, which I thought was where you're going, per the LPGA communications people,

I believe this is the first time in women's golf history. You've had two women winning two majors in the same season. Of course. You did either of them win at Lidtham. That's the big question, T.C. And what I was going to ask you, T.C. is, hey, Ron, you, hey, Don, you, sorry, Sally. She did not play the U.S. Women's Open. So her, she played in Cincinnati in mid-May, finished runner-up, and then went home

to Korea and had minor surgery on some injury. And then Kim comes back. And her first start after that is the KPMG women's PGA. She wins that. Now she wins Evian. Are we looking at maybe an asterix on Nellie's win at RIV all of a sudden? I think she may have to validate it with, you know, at Lhythm and, you know, through that. I think I'm just, I'm appalled there.

that were that were 10 minutes into this conversation on the Evian. And we haven't mentioned that somehow Brooke finished second, went to the playoff, while at the same time becoming an aunt. So recently. I cannot believe that that we're downplaying that like we are. I mean, that's a sleepless nights. Yeah, I just, I don't know.

The fast recovery she's had from, from labor, it's just, it's a shocking, shocking development. I had to put them on. mute. Oh my God. Morgan just droning on and on and on about stuff. It's like, I'm good. It's just giving me the pretty pictures.

Yeah. It's, um, that's tough. It does set up a great women's final major. That's going to come up at the very end of July, beginning of August. So I'm getting a little ahead of myself, but the LPGA is taking a week off. And then they play their Scottish Open at Dun Donald Links. And then they're going to Lithumman's. St. An's for the AIG.

So, of course, you and Nellie Korda are going for a third major in this calendar season. I kind of feel like whoever finishes better can have the claim to, I won't say player of the year because Nellie's won tournaments outside of majors. But I feel like in terms of like the major award, it should be whoever finishes higher at the women's open. That's another one. I think the women's Scottish, like I wish they moved that one around a little bit more. Dun Donald is kind of a American style, Kyle Phillips links.

And that's, you know, fine, fine golf course. But like, there's so many, there's so many cool courses that you could go to with, with, with, with the women Scottish. And I know that there's, you know, tourism dollars involved in displacement of tea times and all that. But man, like, you would be killer to see. I mean, even on that coast, right? Like, go to. Go to Western Gales or go to Shit,

have the women play from the tips at Presswick. That'd be awesome. That's the thing ever. You don't even introduce a bunch of these courses on the men's side because of the length issue, right? There's issues with a lot of the courses from a length perspective and that's not the problem you have on the women's side at all to the point where that one gets,

it hurts even more to not have that one. Right? Like, just go get weird. Yes. I know. They could go to Dornick. You know.

No, that'd be so cool. Just a quick note on you. She led the field this week in Greens and Regulation. She hit 60 a 72 on the week. Guys, she's opened up a bit of a lead. On this season, across 12 starts now, she's hitting 80.37% of her greens. Like, that's more than 5% better than the next closest person.

And so when you talk about what makes her so good, Just awesome, awesome ball striker. Her driver, she's 21st in both driving distance and accuracy on the LPGA tour. So just profiles as somebody who always has a high floor because of her ball striking. And when she starts making putts, as the putters kind of heated up the last few weeks, we've seen. She can win any tournament that she's in. And so I think, Sally, I think we might have to bump up. the over-under now to almost three and a I mean I think I think she's coming uh we talked about

after the KPMG she had some scar tissue she had held 54 hold leads at the Chevron on a couple of occasions had pretty bad fourth rounds but she's learning to to close now and I think if this gives her confidence like I just look at her as a very um dangerous player and somebody I think we just certainly have to keep in mind at the big events and week to week on tour. Definitely. Maybe, however, they set up the world feed or the acoustics. Her iron shots just had a different sound to him, man. They really did.

It sounded, you know, just as crisp as you could possibly get hitting iron shots. And I don't associate a lot of, you know, even the best ball striking women with, like, the sound that makes coming off of her club. And Evian, man, it's wild to see somebody, you win two majors like this and one of them be on a weird course like this. Like it is undoubtedly weird. And to watch like, not to turn this the Haydun conversation into a Nelly conversation, but to watch Nellie be pretty clearly domed by this golf course. Miss the cut. Shot 73, declined media after the opening round in the press conference the day before said, I don't know. It's Evian.

That's all I'm really going to say. I've hit some really good shots and ended up in some really bad places and hit some bad places and ended up in good places. I think that's bad shots and ended up in good places. What I learned every year is patience is key out here. I'm still figuring it out. Doesn't sound like a whole lot of patience in that approach. And it's it's just interesting to watch what two of the most premium ball strikers and talents on the planet handle this week completely differently. I don't know to say that other than like this still this still a weird major.

I like it better than the Chevron. It feels more like a major just because it's got a dramatic finish and a fun finish no matter what. And, you know, it's it's not the most amazing watch from Thursday all the way to Sunday. But gosh, it punches above its weight with those finishing holes and watching the ball on the ground, some sidehill lies, watching, you know, Brooke at times struggle with the ball above her feet and watching some of the spots you need to land on the. green to get to the all the way left hole locations that are on the sides of the mountain and the 18th hole is it's the Robert ory of golf holes like it is not it is not the greatest golf hole I've ever seen but it is the greatest drama and it is the most clutch golf hole like i knew head and you was going to make that putt i knew brook was going to make that put because

it's 18 at every on like you know it's just Brooke missed the put on 17 i'm like oh she's probably got to eagle 18 because that hole just feels like uh every time we watch people play it it feels like a something storybook unfolds on it. And again, there's major inflation going on. It's confusing. I don't know what to do with it. But Evian's still fourth out of the five for me, but it is clearly above Chevron.

Like, I do enjoy watching the end of this tournament every year. I agree. It was, yeah, it was electric. Like, it was just like, oh, you know what? They're on the back down on Evian. Fliping that on because something crazy is going to happen. And I think for Adon, like, it's extra impressive to win. Like, I think Hazeltine is the complete opposite of that.

of like it's it's probably the most fair yeah uh talented inside the golf course yeah just straight down the middle test of golf like kick it out of our head well that and then you were saying the the uh you know the sound of the irons the that's like the the new rbc commercials are all like you'll know it by the sound or by the you did watch a lot of golf this i know like i'm like Stockholm syndrome or something. But, but no, it's always, it's always impressive to win radically different styles of golf in a short amount of time. Which, I don't know.

You now throw in like a proper links test at Litham and St. Anne's. Like if she were to do that, winning three majors across three radically different setups would be pretty incredible. What did you guys make of the Anna Nordquist playing captain discussion? There's just nothing. Golf Channel NBC love more than the possibility of, in a team event, the captain possibly playing in it. Like had one good week, are you going to play? Are you going to play? Are you going to play? Could you play? Could you be a play captain? We would love it if you were a play captain. I don't understand the obsession with it. But I just got a good laugh out of that. Tom Abbott interview right afterward of, you know, I don't know where she's at the standings or what that actually looks like. But I just, I laugh at that every time. They're obsessed with it. She, well, if you'll allow me, just quick down the leaderboard,

Anna Norquist finished tied for seventh this week, which was a great result for her. She was tied with Lydia Co. They were both at 13 under par. The group that was ahead of them at T4, you had a couple of Japanese women, Yamashita and Mal Saigo, and then Korea's Jinhee M, excuse me. They were all tied for fourth at 15 under par. Wanted to note Austin Kim, who's, you know, I think searching for like the big breakthrough,

but quietly just keeps playing better golf. She was low American this week at in ninth place, solo ninth at 12 under par. Gino gets some some scummy wiki yellow. She and Maya Stark were part of a group at Tide for 10th place. They were looting. Gino tripled the par five, part five ninth hold today,

which kind of threw her off. The two English women. men Lottie Wode and Charlie Hall were tied for 16th. They were eight under par. And then the other one I wanted to mention Ron and Yin was tied for 26. That's six under par. But again, a number of disappointing cuts. Obviously, Nelly, and like, I just hope Nellie's not being too influenced by Lexi and Stacey Lewis, T.C. Two women that notoriously began just completely skipping the Evian. I hope Nellie never gets there. But you do look at her Evian record. This was her ninth start. She had a tie for eighth in 2022 and a tie for ninth in

2023. Otherwise, she's never finished inside the top 15 in any other start. So Evian definitely there's a lot to learn for Nelly on how to play and attack this golf course, which should be interesting in the years to come. But then you had Hannah Green missed the cut, Minji Lee missed the cut, Lauren Coglin missed the cut, Gabby Lopez, who has had really good major championships up to this point, missed the cut. Aki Iy's sister missed the cut. Rio Toccutta missed the cut. Grace Kim, former champion, missed the cut.

Celine Boudier, the French woman and former champion missed the cut. So, yeah, we're, we, maybe the AIG will give it to us. I'm, I'm just craving a leaderboard with, you know, like two, three, four of these top ten women in the world kind of coming down the stretch Sunday. So we'll see. I really want to go play that golf course at some point. Just experience. I don't want to play there. I don't want to play Kron over in Switzerland.

Over in Switzerland. Yeah. I know. And I'd love to go see this event sometime. I think it's the one women's major I have not been to. We'll get that on the calendar at some point. I'll tell you who didn't miss the cut, Randy. Even though I think she might stink, Lynn Grant.

She made the cut. I just want to shout that out. I'm proud of her. we're all proud of her yeah Farrow Keefe Farah O'Keefe was low amateur she finished tied for 35th she gets a leap point kind of the LPGA

fast track to status program so I guess that's one other thing to note I'd say tough weekend for Lottie Wode man she shot 64 6764 to start it off 72 73 over the weekend she was right there in it at the halfway point and had a great shot at winning this last year

if you remember right, and it looked like we were headed towards another one of those weekends. But a lot of eyes turned into her for the AIG Women's Open. I think her at Lhythm could be really, really, really, really interesting. And it would be a lot of fun for English golf fans, I know as well. Yeah. When do you think Gino wins a major? Like, what's the over under 18 months? What your question presupposes is she will win a major.

It is going to win a major. And I am doubting that now more than ever. Last year I was saying you are too talented and not win one. It's only a matter of time. And now I'm like, man, is the window closing? Especially if Nellie like just owns the Chevron. And yeah, I don't know. Yeah, because it's like what, where, where does Gino profile the best?

And I don't think we can answer that question, unfortunately. Like she, she hasn't been. super strong in U.S. Open. She doesn't, you know, she hasn't played great links. Like, it's, it's disappointing, T.C. I don't know. I feel like this is a big off season. Like, I feel like 2027, the noise, the chatter, it's only going to get louder.

I'm really curious how, how she goes about, like, attacking majors. Yeah. She was absolutely fucking robbed last year, like the Grace Kim holeout. And there is that. Like that's tough. Like that one, I feel like was a really, really tough beat,

but it has not been a great run this year. Miss the cut at the Chevron T-28. U.S. Women's Open T-8 at Hazeltine T-10 this week. Not horrible performances, not Bryson this year in majors, but it's not good. Just too talented otherwise.

She's got a pup better. Yeah. She's hitting it straight down the middle. She just got pup at her. Anything else? of note from on the LPGA side this past week. No, like I said,

a little breather here and then they continue on Scottish Open and then the IG. So fun, the back half of this month will be a ton of fun. I love this part of the calendar for them. The only very,

very brief and I don't think this is going to kick off a lot of discussion on this. Did have one live golf update. Scott O'Neill had Just keep, he's out here doing it, man. He's out here doing it. I don't even know where this interview originated, but this one was making the rounds this past week commenting, again, making a pitch for why investors should invest in

live golf. Golf is the most important sport in the world. The leader of the free world plays golf and has a huge golf empire. Most of those running countries around the world play golf. 90% of Fortune 500 company CEOs play golf. There's nothing quite like the business development. opportunities of golf. So number two, it's global. There aren't too many global opportunities in the world. Formula One is very well documented. Their rise. MotoGEP is a more recent one.

That's come up through the ranks. And then there's live golf. Third thing is, you've had a neighboring country of Sportico sovereign wealth, invest billions of dollars building this foundation. And you can come in with a multi-billion dollar brand already built for you. The fourth reason might be we have net operating losses that are very substantial in the billions. So If you do business in the United States and you do business in the UK, you have an unbelievable tax opportunity. Tax harvesting. And the sixth reason, I would say, is we have some of the biggest stars in the world,

not only in golf, but in the world, Bryson D. Chambot and John Rom and Dustin and Johnson and Camp Smith. And they're partners. And they have, they're equity holders. And so as equity holders, it's different from a traditional sport and athlete relationship. They're my business partners, and they'll be yours. And then the seventh, and maybe the most important reason is franchise values, there's an insatiable appetite and demand. And franchise values keep going up.

And we have the only currency in golf, and that is the teams. Only currency. What about TGL? It makes a lot of sense that Liv doesn't know what currency is because I don't think that's the best use of that term is true, Neil. Well, he's saying he's saying the currency of the. you know, like currency in that market, the franchise market, which he's, that's false because there's, there's juplinks, the ball frogs. For sure. L.A. Golf Club, all that stuff as well.

Who actually have been able to secure millions of dollars on the value of those franchises, which Livgolf has not been able to in any possible way. But I get what he's going for with the operating losses thing. That's just not going to play well on social media. It really isn't. If, yeah, if somebody's got some, got some tax gains that they, you know, and some money they want to offload and are interested in investing in potentially an up-and-coming sport that maybe would be an influential statement. But, yeah, we know the team values are worth nothing. And I, every, I just don't, I don't know why this isn't a bigger talking point there of like, dude, the PGA tour offered Yasser a board seat and like $500 million. for live, which it's way more than it's worth.

And he turned it down and now it's going to go for nothing. It, uh, it, that, that never gets talked about. And, uh, yeah, I just get it. Every time this guy talks, it is absolute gold, man. Kind of reminds me at Don Ray. Yeah. Like his delivery and just the way that, that he shifts from one, you know, one, all right, three, we got this for, you know what?

We got like, just the, the enthusiasm in which he speaks. Yeah, I don't know. I hope it keeps going just because he's a contract factory. I don't get what he doesn't have Bryson under contract pass this year. Why does he say that we have all of these stars? Like you got wrong, I'm sure, but you do not have Bryson under contract as of now. He's a business partner, though. That's true.

One of your shout to our friend Jamie Kennedy. If you listen to our best opens draft, he was one of the judges on that one. He's been a guest on this pod. He's been a great travel buddy of ours in the past as well. great content for Golf Digest. He made a hole in one. Welcome to the Brotherhood, my friend. Yeah, there it is.

For hole in one on the 18th hole at North Barrett with a hickory driver this past week. He was posting that. That was on the Everything app. And he also shared that the gentleman behind the bar was doing a time lapse of the actual, of the sunset. It caught their like sped up reaction to them finding the golf ball in the hole. It was just a very heartwarming story and heartwarming clip that was going around this past week. That was awesome. That was sweet. Yeah. That was awesome. God, I've got, I've got links fever, man. I know. It's time. Our friend Malcolm, who's at Tane now, he was he was posting stuff. He was up at Derness today with his son, like on a cloudless day. That looked insanely good.

I'm like, man, I just want to go play links call. It helps that we did just get to play some. We had two trips. over there, Randy, you didn't get to take one of them. But that at least helps. Usually this time of year when I haven't made a trip over, I am like scratching the neck and getting uncomfortable here because it is just a walking around on the inside of somebody's mouth down here in Florida right now. So,

Solly, I'm scratching the neck and getting really uncomfortable because ZJ chipped in on the 72nd hole to win by six. Oh, my God. Wow. Akron over Boo Weekly, Rory Sabatini, Stu Sink, George McNeil, a whole cast of characters. So, you know, he just did a whole blocky thing

after he chipped in as well. So, oh, God. Yeah, just he's skipping the open next week, I think. He's kind of like Kenny Perry. He's not playing the open, which I saw that floated. If you ever pass champion exemption and you skip one year,

should you lose your exemption? I think I saw that on Ben Colley's pod, but I would, I would listen to certain, I would case by case. I think it had something to do with playing the John Deere, though, like John Deere into a senior major. And he skipped a senior major to play the John Deere as well. He skipped the U.S. Senior Open. Got it. Yeah. That's right. I mean, I think we're good revoking ZJs anyway, but for other guys, I would, you know, unless you have a good excuse, I'm down with that. This combined with the change in rules that, you know, he's never won one without being able to tap down spike marks.

Exactly. Actually, wait. Yeah. Exactly. No, no. No. Yeah, it should have been penalized. He tapped down spike marks anyway. That, that, I reversed that. That would do that. I look at the ISCO guys, Stephen Fisk and Aaron Wise tied for the lead. Good on Aaron Wise. That's awesome. Stephen Fiske has become a favorite of mine as well. But Aaron Wise is like just awesome press conference and interviews. earlier this this week and yeah just rooting for him to get you know get back zb's one back t3 through seven holes uh then we get stephen yager Lucas Glover tied for third as well Lucas is two over today um but listen the and then Coyvin coiven's uh T5 so kind of you know got off to a slow start with his pro career last week but um you know he's he's playing might not be washed yeah he might not be done. Yeah. We just, we just need to see Clanton starting to, you know, pop up the board as well. I will say, you know, Hurstborn, it hasn't been the same. Hurstborn that we knew and loved from last

year. It was soft. They got a bunch of rain. Still, still a great spot, though. And props to our friend Max Holma for going and plan the Isco when he was into the Scottish Open and into the, you know, into the open unexpectedly. And he, he said, no, you know what, I made it, I made a commitment to to come play here and I think he played you play all right T-41 at the moment 7 under total

he's doing the Louisville to Louisville to Liverpool you know transport tonight tomorrow that's a long long If I was Max I would have missed the cut at least bottle I get over there Yeah Yeah the people

And then, I mean, the blue championship out by you, Randy, there's still still time for you to, to shoot up there. We got a total like PGA Tour U sweepstakes. Tommy Morrison, one ahead of Ross Steelman, Noah Goodwin, Christian Moss is three back. He's making one of his first pro starts, kind of world beater from, from Texas. And then Taylor Montgomery. This could be the return, man. He's T7 right now as well. So there's just so much golf going on. I mean, Randy, I know you were locked in on the American Century this week as well. Marty Fish currently leading over Joe Pavelski, Steph Curry, and Onika Sorenstam continues to play celebrity golf, which is just so unbecoming.

I think our guy Big T, Tim Simons, I don't believe he got invited back this year. He played in it last year. So I'm taking a year off in solidarity with Big T. But yeah, 96 degrees, bright sunshine out here in Denver, T.C. I might have to go scoot up for the end of that corn fairy event. Solly, the Mizz. The Mizz is currently in 79th. Two points ahead of Larry the cable guy at the American Century.

And then Colin Jost, he's the guy from Saturday. live, right? He had, like, I think, I think it's all thrown into question on whether we can even count his stuff. Well, yeah, he's currently tied with Doc Rivers. He was, there's a clip going around with him with a, a broomstick style chipper, a chipping club of some kind. I don't know if he was using the tournament, if he's warming up with it, but I kind of blew my mind. I didn't know that was a thing that was possible, but, uh, there was a guy doing, uh, one year, Monica get to compete as a celebrity. She's been doing this for years now. I know all over the world. It's gross. Oh, truly, truly. I wouldn't put it past her though, right? Um, and then, uh, saw there was a guy,

we're at the Dunhill Lynx in 2018. And there was a guy doing, uh, he was, he was chipping with like a chipper. Like a, you know, one of those ones like it looks like a putter, but it's got loft on it. And he was he, and it was long and he was, he was doing this and he was doing it side saddle. So granted, this is four years ahead of when they made it to where you can't have a club longer than 46 inches other than the putter. But, but yeah. Oh, Randy also, the Kathy Engelbert is currently fourth to last.

She's the WMBA commissioner who got total drive-by this week on the Dan Patrick show. That clip that they showed of her golf game. Yeah. Yeah. All they were laying into her. She canceled an interview with them and then they'd be rolled to her. She just shank it out of the bunker. That was just a really well done clip.

Also, I wanted to shout out the U.S. adaptive open was this week as well at Woodmont in Maryland. Kipp Popert won the overall by six on the men's side. He's just the complete menace on that side of the game. Kim Moore won by six on the ladies side as well. And I'm fascinated by like the categories on this stuff and how like I was talking to Cody about it. It sounds like the USGA has done a pretty good job of making it to where like there's there's coordination impairment, intellectual impairment, lower limb impairment, multiple limb amputee seated players, short stature, upper limb impairment and vision impairment. And I've always wondered of like, how does that work with, with intellectual impairment? Like from a autism perspective or just, you know, kind of like, where do you draw the line between that?

And I think it's like they're in a really, that's a really muddy gray area, I think. And I respect the hell out of the USGA for like waiting into kind of tough stuff and being, I don't know, just kind of being like the voice of common sense on that stuff. and it seems like they're doing a good job of putting these events on and ensuring that, like, you know, they're competitive and it's not just, you know, people kind of skirt and by on rules and stuff. That's well said. Yeah, they do a great job of just kind of platforming all of it, too. You see so many social highlights come out with it and so many cool moments,

like one of the seated players hold out from like 75 yards, and that clip was everywhere this past week. And I think that's some of the most inspiring stuff you'll get in terms of, you know, the people that are playing this game at a competitive level, despite pretty pretty significant impairments they've encountered in a variety of ways. And then how inspiring that is to people that, you know, have experienced something in their lives that causes impairment in some way that you can get out in the golf course and enjoy the game in the way that a lot of these players do. It's great. It's wonderful thing they've done there. Yeah, like, I mean, shit, playing with Mike Brown. a few years ago at Baltis Raul.

He's got, you know, he's left leg is amputated and like, I mean, you know, he goes out there and shoots 65, 66. It's like, Jesus. It's incredible. Like the body control and balance and like just the compensation stuff that they have to do to, you know, get through the ball. It's mind blowing. It's like some of the most athletic stuff I've ever seen.

Yeah. All right, that's going to do it for this week. We, of course, will have a lot of shows coming for you this next week for the Open Championship. Our preview podcast will be recorded and be live on the NoLing Up podcast, YouTube channel, 3.30 p.m. Eastern Time on Monday. You can listen to that once it goes up on audio feeds wherever you get your podcast. We're going to do a little kickoff show on Wednesday afternoon as well, around 4 p.m. Eastern time, usually. We got a new Seamsters Union that will be coming out, I believe, this coming week as well. We had two preview episodes this past week as well.

Royal Berkdale specifically this past Tuesday. That should be in your podcast feeds as well as we drafted our best open championships of all time. It has an excellent judge appearances in the most recent episode here on the No Langup podcast. I won't apologize. I won't apologize all my support. That's big of you. That's big of you to not start playing people. I totally bottled it.

I shit down my leg. I was going through it with Maddie last night. He's like, oh, yeah. Like, I don't know. But also, I do, I do stand firm that 2015 was sick. Like, I think people forget how electric that, that year was an electric year. I agree with you. Yeah. Yeah. Minus ZJ. winning. So, and then we'll have new content at the end of every round of the open chair. Those will be afternoon shows, obviously here in the U.S. We're going to go live shortly after after play reps, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday as well. So make sure you are subscribed to wherever you get your podcasts. And the video versions of the best place to see it live. Of course, I'll hear on the No Laying Up podcast YouTube channel.

So hit that subscribe button. Thank you for watching and listening and looking forward to the final men's major of the year this coming week. And a lot of time spent with you all here on the No Layout podcast. Thank you for tuning in. Cheers. And thank you for all the well wishes to THG as well. It was a trium to return. That was a lecture podcast.

I'm going to vote to commission him to go to the World Cup at 2030 for daily reports. That's a great idea. Thank you all. We'll see you next week.