No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 1198: Scottie Wins in Memphis, US Am at Merion

Episode Date: August 17, 2026

Scottie Scheffler claims an 8-shot dub at TPC Southwind to get the playoffs started. Soly, Neil and Randy open up the show talking Scottie, TPC Southwind and general playoff format thoughts. They also pay their respects to those who fell outside the bubble. They then share their thoughts on the U.S. Amateur at Merion, the latest on LIV, Jeeno’s win Portland and other news and notes Support our Sponsors: Titleist High Noon AT&T NLU Pro Shop If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Nest⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠nolayingup.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club. Be the right club today. Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up Live show, presented at always by our friends at Titleist. Solly here.

I got the strap boys with me tonight. Neil Schuster is here. Hello, Neil. Bangalang, Sally. Happy to be here on a summer Sunday. Let's go, baby. big Randy is here elephant shirt in tow how are you honored big I look great big homie thanks Neil God I was getting ready to make a joke sallie way to hit Neil top billing that is in

his new contract but I know I feel like I've used that one before it's good to be with you Neil good to be with you so I was feeling good about your outfit I was honored to wear that to a birthday party and then you come in from the top rope like that unreal see he's so talkative if I go to him last. He stretches it out. If he knows I got to get to you, he wraps it up quicker. I'll get into the show. That's probably true, solid. Oh, of course it is. It's the intro and run a show. We got to get there. We got a lot to chat about here tonight. Scott, he's absolute romp in Memphis at TPC Swampass. We had the U.S. amateur, of course, at Marion. Fun finish on the DP World Tour this morning.

If I may say, uh, it's a great northern and Denmark. LPGA tour was in Portland, an amazing Sunday from Gino Titikoon. in that one. Of course, we got some live golf news. You know we can't go a week without breaking down a little bit of live golf news. As mentioned, Scotty dominated the FedEx St. Jude. Jack Whaley beat Jay Lang Jr. 4 and 3 at Marion. Jeff Winther, the Dane. He won in Denmark. Ross Steelman was leading the Albertsons Boise Open the last I looked. And I don't have a current update on that one, but had a pretty comfortable lead in that one as we are live. And Gino Titikun wins the standard Portland classic title list, of course, was the overwhelming number one ball at the 126th U.S. Amateur. The week started with 263 players, seeing up a ProV1, ProV1X, or a ProV1X left dash golf ball. It's 84% of the field more than 13 times the next most played brand. Among that group, of course, was the winner who wrote his name into the history books with a 4 and 3 victory in today's championship match while playing his ProB1X golf ball.

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Aquaman's back. We weren't worried. I'm glad we didn't waste a ton of airspace this past year, worried about Scotty Sheffler. Took a two-shot lead into the final round over good friends. Sam Burns and Sung J.M. Didn't start out great. Had quite a rub of the green with a green side bunker shot on the third hole.

Hit his sprinkler head and went to the water. It really, really affected Scotty as the only one the tournament by eight. Has he responded. Birded five and six separated. Burns got off to a tough start. And then Scotty birdied 11, 13, and 16 on the back. No bogeys. And it would go on to win it by eight.

No one else did anything. Sung Jay melted away. Burns went backwards. Neil did you get to watch a lot of the golf today. Well, I kind of struggle to not to keep it on the US AM. You know, I once Scotty's like six clear and then you flip back over, you're like, oh, now he's seven clear. You know, it was just really, it was vintage Scotty.

I think we could start to call something vintage. It feels like he's been around long enough, looks super routine, middle of the green. And, you know, on some of these holes with a par 311th, you know, just a really like clinical shot there. Like any time there was a chance for maybe things, they get a little haywire. It's just like there was, he left no doubt, uh, all day down the back night.

But Randy, he's your favorite player. I want to hear from you on, on Scotty's win second of the season, which is hard to believe. I know, I know, uh, 21st of his career, I think. And that's all in the last four and a half years, his first win being February of 2022. So just impressive. Um, yeah, it was just a clinic from Scotty, you know, the, the two shot lead and, um, he's got a was it a bunker shot or chip shot i forget uh exactly what his lie was just a chip shot it no bunker shot um yeah on the on the par five third and he nearly hits a great little

pop out bunker shot and it hits directly on a sprinkler head takes a big bounce obviously kills any backspin on it and it just goes by the pin into the water um was a moment like just tough I can imagine you doing something like that on a strap somewhere to not break par. That wasn't even, Sam Burns was already in trouble. He had driven it wayward on that same par five third. He had to punch out his second, hit his third into the water. So it's like this really, there was no part of this whole day that was ever in doubt. It was a clinic.

Scotty is my favorite player. I would have loved to have just seen somebody come and chase them a little bit. We honestly, we could assume that whole last two and a half hours when they hit the back nine, like it saved everybody the sweat and trouble around Memphis. But yeah, just another notch in the resume forum. Obviously puts him in firm control. You know, not that he was going to miss the tour championship. he'll go into the Tour Championship again, ranked number one.

It's just, it's just more of the same. I was surprised to see the FedEx Cup leaderboard. I don't really track it super closely, but see that he was number one, is that because of today? Because these playoffs are worth so much? It's because he's the best player in the world. Well, of course, but he's only won twice.

And so I'm looking down that list. I'm like, well, there's some other guys that have, like, it feels like Cam Young and Chris Got her up three times, you know, that I would think, I don't know that. Maybe I sound stupid, but that kind of surprised me because I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm like, he won the Amex. It's not like he won a huge event the first time around. And I was just thinking that he'd be in the top five, but I guess he's just constantly, he has a runner up at the top 10. Yeah, I mean, his other finishes this year, yeah, wealth top five today. He finished third in Phoenix, finished fourth

at Pebble Beach, finished second at the Masters, second at the heritage, second at the Cadillac, finished third at the Byron Nelson, finished second of the Travelers, finish second of the three M open, and T4 at the Open, T4 at the U.S. Open. I mean, it must just be all the hours you spent saying,

what's wrong with Scotty? You know, maybe there's no way he could be number one of the next up. First and strokes gained, if that's your flavor, you know, like he's just, yeah, it's kind of comical. I would, well, and I heard Trevor Eberman would say,

best strokes game putting performance of his career. He said that on 18, at the end of the broadcast. I don't know if that was for today or for the week. I'm guessing for the week. He was, he led the field this week. He gained almost nine shots on the green,

uh, so far this week and have to assume he led today as well. I mean, that's just not fair then. No, it's not. I mean, that's the thing too.

Like his, his putting has still been good this year. That's, you know, it was, yeah, that was the problem with Scotty, pre mallet,

pre-claw. And it really has been, there has been a dip in the ball striking. That's in arguable. Like the iron play went from being like tiger adjacent to, just like a bad morocawa year basically numbers-wise and that's a big dip it's a half shot per round like that explains like him going from being you know a waltz into the Hall of Fame in like a five-year span time period versus like hey winning a couple times a year like it is that big of a

difference and yeah but today was like the and this week was just the return of like man your offline shots are going two two yards offline maybe and even when you're making the mistakes you're scrambling really well. And just the shot he hit today into, what holds that? The fifth hole, five hundred twenty-nine yard par four. There's only six birdies on that hole all day. We watched, you know, the group of four, Sung-J missed it right. Sam Burns blew it way right over there. It's a converted par five into a par four. Hits a drive right down the middle of the fairway and like holds off this six iron, cuts it beautifully back to perfectly pin high and rolls the putt in the center. It was just like, dude, that's the guy we've been watched the last couple years, man. And yeah,

It's like bad time of year to get it going, man. Like missed major season. Like now you're going to get super hot. Blow fields away. It's got to be a little bit frustrating, I'm sure. But I mean, you're never going to. Well, good for the bank account for him. I mean, 11 was the whole day for me, you know, that Island green and he hits it, you know, center of the green.

Sam Burns, it's another, you know, quality shots of the middle. He's right in Sam Burns's line. This studies the putt. Barry's like a 25 footer. Like so, so routine after like hitting the smart shot and then just making the put. Is that exciting? And I was thinking about it. You know, Tiger used to blow away fields or like sometimes when Rory's done this in the past, it's like, oh, my God, like look at this dominance.

I don't know, Randy. I'll, I'm going to throw this one at you. Like, is that, it's not quite as much fun to watch when Scottie's doing it. And do you think that's because he's not emoting or like what would you, what would you say there? I honestly think of some of it's the canvas on which he's painting. like an eight-shot snoozer in memph you know i don't want to get aggregated like like kyle porter and and piss off the people of memphis but it's just not a super interesting venue you know i i think if you're at a place like hilton ahead or rive or somewhere where we can

appreciate a touch more you know just the golf course is giving you a bit more i think that's one thing. Today was more just, it was, it's okay to call it boring. It was boring. And that's not Scottie's fault, you know, certainly. I'm more upset at, you know, Burns and some of this chase pack, like could not get anything. Sung Jay, classic stuff from Sung Jay, what, 74 today, nice, after three great rounds. And then Tommy, vintage T7 from Tommy. Jake Knapp, Tommy. Yeah, they just kind of went away. So, yeah, just, a few variables there that I think, you know, unfortunately not, not a Sunday afternoon. But I would, the credit I would give the course, like for everybody other than Scotty,

you play tough. You know, like it's a legit challenging golf course for the, for the pro players, which we are struggling to find in today's world. So credit needs to be, you know, they need some credit for that for sure. And it was firm. Like for August being massively humid, it looked like they were totally fine, letting parts of that golf course go. you know, heat indexing the well into the hundreds today.

I mean, it's a nightmare. There's a ton about this tournament that I think is going to represent the past of the PGA tour when we get to 2028. Like I don't think the future of the PJ tour looks like this event. I don't think the playoffs look like this. I don't think you should be going to Memphis in August. But there's a ton to take from TPC Southwind as to what challenges players, like smaller greens, awkward angles of the greens and interesting water hazards. an emphasis on driving accuracy. I mean, just there's so many,

there's several shots on this golf course that are like, until you've passed this one, you can't really, I mean, when you have a eight shot lead, you can breathe pretty easily. But like 18 is very interesting T shot,

very interesting hole. 11, you've got to survive that one. What's the other hole in the front nine with the water to the right and two bunkers to the left? I forget exactly which hole. That is on the front nine. Like that's super interesting.

Like there's a lot, it's not aesthetically pleasing golf course. It's not especially memorable golf course. It's not even a great golf course, but it is good at challenging the tour pros. So like a renovation or like if we're looking for styles of golf course that are going to challenge guys, it should be more in this blueprint than it should be Craig Ranch. That's for damn sure.

And there's something interesting about watching guys have to hit shots into smaller angled greens with ample punishment around them, including penalty strokes, is probably the best formula, I think, for PGA tour golf versus like Memorial Park. I think this kind of test is way more interesting to watch, even if it's not aesthetically pleasing. That's my vote. Par 70. I think that's a little bit of this.

How much is your opinion changed, Holly, for instance, the 532-yard fifth is a part-5, right? Like, all the scores look a little lower. It changes none for me, right? It's not a part-5, though. It's an average 4.24-4.23 today. Yeah. for the week it average 4.1.

Like that's par 4. And that's what a par 4 looks like these days. It's 530 yards. I'm sorry to say it. But I'm not a big guide to par. A lot of people are when they flip it on. I think what makes it interesting though is like there's a there's no, the floor is lower for the golf on this golf course.

We watched it. It's not, it wasn't good that Sam Burns and Sungjah went backwards today. But if you play bad, you are going backwards. Rory, I watched a lot of his round on Thursday, man. That guy was me finished very, very poorly, but like he was in a blender.

Like this golf course clearly is not one of his favorites and he kind of refuses to adjust his playing style for the question that's being asked at this tournament. But I don't know. The most boring golf tournaments, I think, are when the floor is super high and you can play a whole poorly and still make easy pars.

And I've never felt that way about Southwind. That's fair. That's fair. I think more. Yeah. Yeah, no, go ahead, Neil. Well, I was just going to say it's produced a lot of playoffs too. in recent years. So that's why this also surprised me when I flipped it on today.

I was like, oh, my God, Scott, you know, I probably put it on like around eight, you know, and end of the front nine. I'm like, ah, this is getting out of hand already. I was expecting this to be closer. But you know what? It's also interesting. There's a, the more I tend to like watching the pros play a course, the less I want to play it myself.

Some of the, some of the ones I'm like, this is one of my favorites to watch. Phoenix, I'm good if I never play Phoenix, but it's one of my favorite courses to watch the pros play in Southwind. I've no real actual desire to play there, especially in August. But, you know, it's fun to watch the pros play. I don't know. I'd go walking in Memphis if you made me. Come on, Randy, down there.

As long as you'll take me to Beale Street afterwards. 100%, man. I think macro, what I was going to say, just broadly speaking, there's just a miss. And I know we're headed towards a new PGA tour reality here, but just tough to square with the idea of, like, the playoffs and we're coming down to the end of the season and then like you get a weekend like this or a Sunday like this where it's one thing to have Scotty kind of walk away maybe we should get into like there's just not a lot of movement like guys jumping into the top 50 guys falling

out of the top 50 it just um I always find it lacking as the first round of the playoffs I just it comes up short for me in that regard Can I totally flip this on you a little bit, Randy, in that thinking back to like the lowest of lows of the PGA tour when they started to lose guys to live and it looked like the PGA tour was like in trouble and it was just going to be a total shit product. It bottomed out so bad that they had the runway to actually make the change they needed to make to make it interesting versus when it was just in motion and going. It was really hard to upset the Apple cart and make significant change. I think in the next couple of weeks we're going to learn more about the future of the playoffs and I think it's so bad now

that they have the runway to completely flip it on its head and they have to do it. It's not a playoff. It's not good system. I'm going to stand on business on this. It was a massive mistake to get rid of the starting strokes. I still believe that. It has made the playoffs go from like a 2.5 out of 10 to a 1 out of 10.

I don't know if you can come up with a worse system to crown a champion currently on the PGA, And I'm, I'm choosing to see the optimistic side of that currently and that it's going to get flipped on its head. You're going to have to show me, Sali. You're going to have to show. I'm, I like your optimism. But, you know, there's just a lot of, a lot of stakeholders involved. Like, listen, you know, FedEx spends a lot of money.

And you know what? I'm going to give a shout out. Now. For now, of course, for now. But my point being like that, you know, that leads to, you know, golf in in Memphis in August. Right. So navigating that, like I'm, I'm not, I'm not as confident as you that that can be, that kind of thing can be navigated, that that the scales won't be tipped by stuff like that. So, but I, I agree with you that they have the opportunity. I want, let's seize the day, Randy.

And I should clarify, I think the finale is going to be a lot better. I, I'm not as confident in the early leg of the playoffs, but I think it's going to build towards something better is what, but that can make this week better as well. I found myself like kind of hoping Spieth made it into the playoffs or made into the top 50 to get so we didn't have to get sponsored exceptions next year and do that conversation every week. But other than that, like I don't really care that much about the 50 cutoff. So I'll be at BMW coming up this week and we just did the build out pod and they're there had record ticket sales. And the fact that that moves around, I think really helps them add. I think that creates energy for that event. And, you know, it's only it's the top 50. So it does feel a little special based on that.

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And that impact the energy on site, which makes a big difference when you're watching it on TV. Yes. I think that's exactly right. You know what you need when you get just off the course on a super hot? Maybe not even while you're playing golf on a hot day like that. But when you get off the course on a hot day, sun's up, baby, vodka, seltzer, vodka iced tea, tequila seltzer, no matter the occasion, high noon has something for you.

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So I didn't really need to help as much as I thought I would. But thank you to high noon spirits. Down the board a little bit. I don't have a whole lot more to add. Sea will finish the second. I did, you know, did find it. I find it funny that it's Scotty's buddies that always end up finishing close to him. I know.

Not really that close to him, but near the top of the board. Well, it makes it feel a little more ruthless, you know, when he does it to Sam Burns coming off of paternity leave. And I didn't, I didn't have the heart to do it to say I'm on Twitter today,

but I wanted to do, I just did the, you know, the professor tweet from Goodwill Hunting. Like, you know how fucking easy this is for me, from Matt Damon. And I wanted to say,

this is Scotty to Sam. Like, as disappointed in him like, come on, man. Like, you know how fucking easy this is for me? Give me a challenge here. But yeah, coming for, it's one of those things.

I don't know how many weeks I can do this with Sam of like, can't dog the guy for playing good golf when like the speeds and JTs aren't near the board much at all anymore. And I know he's not getting it over the line, but he's playing a ton of good golf. And I refuse to kind of make that be a negative for Sam, especially coming off. Fourth top five of the season. Awesome year. Also like the third or fourth time, he's been in the final group and, you know, has had a look,

hasn't gotten it done. Now, I didn't have the lead today like he did, you know, in past, you know, past events where he's come up short. I'm not going to say choked or anything like that. But just a tough, you know, it started. I didn't say it. I was just going to get out in front of that full transparency. That's not what I said, but it's becoming a narrative, gentlemen. Now, good showing, though, considering he's coming off of four weeks with a newborn.

I want that for the record, you know, didn't drive it great this week. but you know that's got to feel good heading into the into the playoffs when the big money's on the line we can pay for some diapers randy yeah uh god when you said his fourth top five i'm just thinking back like would we say this was scotty's 12 and at points of this year we're like what's wrong with scottie it's just it's wild to me um like i said it was that third hole right making a bad double on the par five third like any chance to to make this a two-horse race and competitive went out the window early. So, yeah, disappointing, but I agree with you. Obviously, a newborn at home, like, it's not the easiest.

I know that now. So all in all, a good week for. He did say at the British, he was like, yeah, there's not much I could have done back home anyways. I was like, that was a little different experience, I think, in this early days. But yeah, maybe, maybe you have a different system. That's totally fine. It was changing the 3 a.m. diaper.

That's what I want to know. Somebody's got to do it. So you mentioned this, Randy, like just the lack of volatility or movement in out of the top 50. We had a couple chases with it today. That CBS did a good job covering it. Keith Mitchell, you know, I had to take the socks and shoes off on 18 with the ball above his feet on the bank. Needed to make a birdie to even give it a shot. That did not work out for him.

Speath entered the back nine inside the top 50, shot 37 on the bank. back and we'll miss the playoffs after opening with 65. Very fun day on Twitter on Thursday. We had a great time with it. You got to get those tweets out when you can, though, man. It is not built for 72 holes these days, unfortunately. But speed season comes to an end. What's your lasting memory of the Jordan Speed 2026 experience?

It's just the word close. I mean, even down to the wire, we were close to keeping it going. But, yeah, in fact, we are not that close. like truly so close and yet so far away um god he hits him like he hit a shot on the that long par four fifth out of the bunker that was exceptional hits it up there to 11 feet leaves the putt short you know and i i think i forget who it was on the on the call it was like that's just not a put you would have ever seen jordan leave short when you know at the height of his powers right he So, yeah, he makes a turn in 33 looking like, hey, nice little back nine.

We'll have one more week to play. And he bogey's 11, bogey's 12, eventually bogey's 15. Do you see the shot on 12? 12 is the whole I was thinking of with the water and the bunkers on the left. Drives in the fairway bunkers on the left has one 13 flag. And they cut to him and the on-course reporter is like he's got a great lie here and just like a routine shot. He's like there was no lip to deal with. Like it's a, the bunkers are low and like flat there.

He skulls it into the lip of the bunker. Like he, he didn't even clear the lip that was not even in the, like he just truly like almost top the bunker shot. He was lucky it just came out into the fairway and didn't roll all the way into the water. But it was just like, yeah. It's, it's,

I was doing something I think I was fixing some food and I, it's just like every time he pops on the screens on 18T and he just, you know, I kind of hear the tea shot and it's just like hot. Mike of him going spin, spin, spin, spin, then it bounces, it hits a fan, the fan falls down, it rolls over the cart path into the pine straw, comes to rest in between some guy's legs who's like texting, and the guy just like picks his one leg up. And it was like, only Smith is like, you just look up and that happens, you know, it's just, it's a true drama. Yeah. It's crazy,

you know, like he's just, he's just all over the place, man. And, and, and yeah, it's just not going to get done yeah the week started there was a speed tracker on on instagram that was starting to go fund me uh to get back the the three thousand dollars that he invested in the channel speed camp who bought the channel from a guy who quit on speed for 75 he's joined he's gone nuclear he's acquired nuclear weapons and all kinds of movement on the speed tracker front this week uh but unfortunately it's gonna get get it's gonna be a big off season in speak speak tracker land they're gonna have to get their back off is squared away. Go ahead.

Yeah. No, sorry. The other shot that stood out that the telecast did a good job of calling out in the moment. It was his approach into number nine. He's got 129 yards. I think Sandwedge, I think this is the right hole. And just totally, you know, just scrapes it outright and misses the green. You know, like misses his tart.

by 30 yards. I think he he ended up 90 feet away, gets it up and down, but like, that's a scoring, like that's a scoring opportunity. It's just, you can say,

the more you watch, like truly, I think shot by shot, you just come away like, no, this isn't close. Like, this is not close.

But then when he's in the pine straw or he's over by the port of Johns, that's when it's like, oh, he hits it to 10 feet, you know? So you might need to do a little tin cup. Like Greller might need to start getting him to like, you know, put his hats side.

Like make him look stupid. So he's only when he's in the fairway, like make it a challenge or because it's like when he's out of position is when he like hits the good shot, it seems like. I'm proud of myself for not falling for Thursday though. I had to send out one good, you know, one tweet. You had to get hyped a little bit. But it was like for like a half a second, I was like, I've been doubting him too much. Like am I about to like just look really silly? And like four holes later.

he's he's not changed he's also talking about sneaking into the top 50 you know like we're not talking about like oh man he almost won today it's like no he he didn't right he like any and he didn't sneak into the top 50 uh and then Keith yeah you mentioned Keith Mitchell um I'm supposed to do he was kind of on the bubble to do a interview with next week at at a function so now he's we're waiting to see if he got in he's out so now yeah now that there's I had I had to prep for two options He's gone, so he's not coming. He loves me. Max, they said at the week he had to, I think he had to get top 21.

And I think he missed it by what he, he's T24. So that was like, you had to get top 21 and things go your way. And things go your way. Okay. But I mean, good close from him, 69, 68 on the weekend. Tough start. He shot 73 in round one. So kind of didn't get off the bus.

But Max is what finishes at 52nd on the, list Harris English, Pearson Cootie, Harry Hall, Sam Stevens, uh, all on the outside looking in. Matt McCarty, Mav McNeely, uh, Mav sneaking in one from 49 to 50, it looks like. Mm-hmm. So he's, uh, or no, sorry, other way around. He went 50 to 49. So he's, he's safe. Um, Randy, you, you, uh, yeah, you had a tweet, didn't you?

That I did. I, I unbricked for, for just a second, uh, as I was trying to help with the, the agenda tonight. And Matt McCarty was getting the full Jordan Speeth experience today. He was kind of the one right on the bubble where if Spith has a good back, nine, he's bouncing McCarty. And he was quoted as saying, having my season relying on a Speeth round is absolute chaos. I guess he texted that to our friend Shane Bacon.

It's like, yeah, dog, it's chaos for everybody. It's chaos for Jordan's chaos for us. It's chaos for you. it's truly you don't know what's going to happen with speed. Am I a bad person though for not once believing that it was going to happen? It's like, oh, is he going to do it? Like, I don't think he's going to do it. I just, that's where I'm at at my journey.

Unfortunately, I did not feel like he was going to do it. And I'm sorry to report that. I don't like it. And Sally, just to move it up to the top 30 for a sec, right now, Ricky is number 30. Gary Woodland is 31. JT. posted 32, Nikolai Horyard 33. So Ricky and then Bud Colley's 29, Kirk Kitty Yamma, 28, Adam Scott, 27. So all those guys, that's kind of your bubble coming out of BMW. It's funny. It's wild. I mean, obviously, the reason you just gave there, but Nicolai, I mean, his twin Rasmus is playing in Denmark, their home country.

Yeah, this past week, he didn't qualify for the playoffs. Nikolai fighting for top 30 here. Probably not too often those guys are on complete opposite sides of the globe, not playing the same schedule. But Rory returned from the other side of the globe, came straight from the bars in Abiza to... I wouldn't call it a bar, man. The club.

I don't remember what those things are called anymore, man. I've been one of those in a long time. Disco tech, maybe? Can we call it a disco tech? I mean, for sure. Vibing is fay off in the DJ booth. Yeah. I do respect the, I know I'm going to be on video being out here at a club and I'm still going to go do it and not care what people think.

I do respect that part of the vibe. Yet, you know, had some quote. He shows up in Memphis this year, did not play this in the past. He finished his third to last. He said, I think having four weeks off going into the last two events the year is probably going to be a little too much for me in terms of wanting to be competitive. So this is a good week. Obviously, I want to play well, but it's also a good week to just see where my game is, do a lot of practice or as much as I can. the heat and also continued i think it's important to be here if the tours it's the tours

playoffs and it's important for all the players to be here had some good conversations with brian rollov over the last couple weeks i think it's important for me to be here and show support and looking forward to teeing it up so new tune somebody got in his ear obviously about it being important to be here now he was not here for it last year and i i know he has been removed from the pga tour stat he's not going to have enough start like qualified starts this year and like he's just removed from the stats like i was He was second and driving distance I remembered seeing. And now he's not listed there.

And he's not even not getting the 3.1 plate appearances per game. He's got to get his 500. Two plate appearances. He's exactly right. Randy, that quote, it just made me think of like time trials in the Tour de France. And he's just like, he's not a sprint.

You know, like this, this week, this stage, I'm just going to be hanging out and Telethon, man. Like, I'm not, I'm not pushing today.

We're going to, when we get to the climbs. That's when you're going to see me. Okay. Which how do we feel about that? Like I hate, I, I, I, I, I've done so much, he's elevated so many parts of his game over the last several years to become a more complete player. I don't love the idea of him just like, I can't win on this golf course. Like this, this golf course is no good for me.

Like, you know, I, I've been, I've been doing a lot of like, Rory thinking lately. Another project we're working on. And he, he does stand out to me when you, when you start to take the historical perspective of like dudes of their era. like I just don't you know I don't remember Tiger with the cut streak and stuff he didn't he didn't unsubscribe ever which the driver he hit on Thursday at Memphis this week and hit in the water made double that was an unsubscribe yeah and and Rory throughout his career there are there are like I can't even count on one hand the amount of times where he's just like I'm yeah I'm good I'm just going to take me off your mailing list and you know and Jack with all the runner ups and majors and all

the majors he won it just seems like Rory is wired a little different where he will just like, I'm going to save the energy. And I don't think that's admirable. I think it's relatable in a way. It's human. It's very unique, though, when you start to think about the killers, the top dogs of historical golf. Like, I think he stands out in that way.

And maybe I'm not like adding, maybe, you know, Norman did that. Or like, I'm not, I'm not looking at all the, you know, all the dudes per era. But when I'm just thinking about Tiger or Jackie, a lot of times their greatness, what's flagged is their, their tenacity to make the cut. You know, like the never quit attitude. And Rory has some quit in them, which is, you know, it's just worth acknowledging. And like this is kind of an example of that. Yeah.

It's so funny that, you know, kind of compared to Tiger and that, like, that's, like, Phil was the same way, right, playing where it was like, dude, Phil could eject with the best of them. And it's like, if you knew it wasn't Phil's week, like, see you. But Tiger and I guess to our winner this week, Sheffler, like Sheffler's wired where he is going to, if he shows up to a place, he's going to grind for four days. And I, yeah, it's just a little bit of a different. I don't know if it's interesting, you know, because he said it's like not necessarily a good thing for Rory, but it's different, right? It's unique. And when you start to talk about like the killer.

of the all-time killers, you know, which I would put Rory in that category. Or, you know, he's definitely, like, put himself in a position to be in that category at the end of his career. It is, to me, it's unique in that, in that regard where he can, he can flip it on and he can just like, I'm turning it off. I'm going to conserve. It's not, not worth it. And that's like, not the trophies to him. I get that part.

And that's a mental thing of it. I guess my question would just be like, all right, is it, was it worth showing up just to make a token appearance and, and finish third to last? And I mean, almost he almost walked into it to start the week of like saying, I don't care how I do this week. You know, he says, he stopped himself. Like, obviously, I want to play well, but just a good week to see where my game is at was like, I'm kind of just being here because I kind of have to. So I don't get fined, not literally.

It just goes back to, you know, we're to take this as the quote unquote playoffs. And it's like, one of the best players on earth is treating this like preseason, you know, like an exhibition game. Like those things just don't match up. And I think that's been the biggest issue with these FedEx Cup playoffs through the years is like you can have these situations where like truly it doesn't matter. Like a playoff week doesn't matter. And what other sport do we say that where, you know, it's like you can participate without it mattering at all. It's like you get a buy.

No, you're not playing this week. But anytime, yeah, once you get the playoffs and you're playing it matters. Yeah. So I think that's just like Phil like that's like the big problem with it. Like I don't I don't begrudge Rory. You know, he's in a position where it's like yeah, dog, knock the rust off. Whatever like that that's fine. It just it doesn't square with this being a quote unquote playoff event.

I agree with that. And to his credit, I think him skipping last year was eye opening, I think for roll app even of like, oh, okay. You know, maybe in a backwards way. This gives me a little bit of runway to make some moves that need to be made here. If one of our star players is just going to straight up skip for our title. sponsor of the entire tour. Yeah, it's tough. But also he's been very poorly incentivized to be there.

Like, let's change that. Let's get, let's get into that. So, um, the go by Raymond James officially announced as a championship track event, uh, for 2028. And as we were just discussing last week, Segefield will undergo a renovation ahead of the championship. That was all around great news. I think that was, uh, yeah, big takeaway we had last week. You just wanted to follow up on that note to say we will see a new sedge field in 28. I think that is a overall win for golf fans. I think that's going to be a good one. On the other note I have on kind of the PGA tour side of things is the U.S. Rider Cup team, Jim Furik, announced that there's going to be a, quote, big change to its

point system. He said it's going to be the right way to identify the best players in September for 2027. It's from Adam Schupeck said Furek addressed the need for change to the qualification system, do the increasing difference in prize money between the signature events with purses upwards of $20 million and the full field events are typically half that amount. So big change is coming. What do we, what do we think about the overhaul? We don't know the details of what that would be. Hard to know. Hard to give you what I think without knowing the details. For me, well, I'll just say for me, can you just outline what the current process is? Just I know somebody

Everybody else in the class probably has the same question. I know it's a two-year thing. You know, can you help me with that a little bit, Sallie? Thank you. For the listeners, of course. That'd be wonderful. I'll hang up and listen. The last system was something along the lines of it,

and I hate it so much that I actually don't know the full details of it because it pains me to read it every time. But it was like a point for every thousand dollars earned the year prior. And then the year of the Ryder Cup, it was like one and a half points earned, you know, for every thousand points. and then the majors were worth a certain amount, a different amount, and blah, blah, blah. And, you know, basically majors in the prior year count a fair amount.

But all this to say, like, it was a system spanning a long period of time. It was a total point system, accounting system instead of like, you know, any kind of rate system or ranking system of any kind. And you can end up with a weird looking list that includes Wyndham Clark from this year, when's the U.S. Open. and if he has a bad year next year, you might still make it on points because he's got a ton of major points from the prior year was kind of the reason behind the change, I think.

And it's long, it's, I have an article dating back to 2016, writing about how this point system has been needing an overhaul. It's been tweaked and changed a bunch over the years, but it has needed a complete overhaul. I like this idea. I agree with Jim that it does need an overhaul.

I don't love that it's just about the, the disparity in dollars of the, events. I think you need to go to a more robust system that honestly, probably some sort of weighted strokes gain system would be the best way to identify the six best players that should just be automatically clinched on your team. And because when you think about it, when you pull back, the six qualifying spots are four guys. And, you know, it should be a pretty easy formality. Like it should be guys you already want on the team. And like you just don't want to get trapped with somebody that earned a bunch of points that's in bad form that you don't want to bring with you.

And I don't like using Wyndham Clark as the example there. Like that's a little unfair to him. We don't know how he's going to be playing a year from now. But like that one would stick out. He has a good start to the year again next year and then plays like shit the rest of the way, but it's in on points. And you've got to take him even though he's not vibing. That's the only situation you've got to guard against.

So I've got to- It should be a two-year calendar. Would be my first question. I, what I would propose is something they would never do. But what I think the best way to identify the six best players would be some sort of weighted strokes gained over a certain time period. Kind of similar to how you do an aging of OWGR of points earned, but it's more of a rate base.

So it's not just tallying, you know, if you make 25 starts for somebody that makes 15, you can just earn more points and be higher on the list. And something that is, you know, is going to. Points per start. So it's like it levels it. Basically points per, yeah. More something like that.

Maybe not that exactly. And yeah, I know I'm a data golf nerd. you can roll your eyes at this too, but it would be like that or like a data golf points per, a data golf points aging system of some kind. Like their point system is like the OWGR system is really heavily weighted towards wins, seconds, things like that and can kind of throw out a bunch of missed cuts. Like you can overcome a lot of bad play with one great week, which I think is like maybe not the best way to identify your team.

I would want more consistent players on a week to week basis. And there's there's points, there's ways of getting there that kind of reward recent good play. yet also good long-term play. Like, I think trying to strike the hottest hand is not what you want out of a qualifier. So some sort of like really dull system would probably be best. I'd be surprised if they made it that intuitive and that drastic of a change. But that's how I would, I would hope you end up with the six best players going into it.

So we'll see. I like the Furek saying we're doing big change. I think Furek does represent, does not represent big change. He's quite literally the opposite of big change. he's been a part of like 14 or 16 teams or something like that at this point. I might be a little high on that, but he is, he is part of the establishment that is, he picks it from the inside, though, because he knows how the bureaucracy works. That's best, best case scenario, I think.

Well, you didn't, I still didn't get an answer out of you on what time frame do you think would be right? Do you think it should be two years? I think it should, but I think like the waiting of something that happens this year is going to have like a 20% waiting, you know, even the biggest events. Like, you know, a major win this, like the arbitrary number. Let's say you get 100 points, uh, in this system for winning the US open by points time next year. Maybe that gets aged down to 20, right? Like in the, the most recent major finish, you're going to have your full points of that one. And it's going to be more representative. And you know, you could dive in there pretty easily and make a pretty

a mathematical formula that makes sense that kind of rewards the true talent. level of a lot of these guys. I mean, JJ spawns up. President's Cup's a different list and they use FedEx Cup points, but like Ben Griffin, JJ Spawn are way up on that list as of right now. And that's not representative of who's playing the best golf on the U.S. side. And if the President's Cup mattered, could be trending towards something that was, was not good. But Jim's got my number. Haven't, haven't heard from him. I don't think that is a service issue because I use AT&T and AT&T believes in connecting people to greater

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AT&T connecting changes everything. I pulled that out so fast. JP wasn't even ready with the bottom banner of that one. I mean, that was quality stuff, you know? I know connection matters when Randy on bricks, you know, he needs that stuff quick so he can get brick back up. You know I'm going to get hot when we get in the Ryder Cup section. Sorry, I was just looking at Data Golf real quick to find, like, some of the biggest deltas between... I was just doing that, too, Randy.

Yeah, and I feel like, Sally, what you're talking about would obviously help a guy like Bryson at the moment who who, you know, is getting knocked in the OWGR and obviously not playing PJ Tour events, but Data Golf-wise, still up there. Can't-Lay. Can't-Lay's 12. Am I reading this? Cantlay's 12 on Data Golf and then 41 in the OWGR? Correct, yeah. Yeah, so a guy like can't, yeah, exactly, Neil. So that's kind of who it would benefit maybe.

You would look at that Rider Cup's pointless, though. Cantley is 17th in that 12th in data golf. And Russell Henley's ninth in data golf, third in President's Cup points. Okay. Just because, yeah, it, and they're right next to each other over the last three months, six months, 12 months in strokes gained. Again, which is just if you don't like strokes, it's just your golf scores. That's all that is. That's not, it's not a fancy metric at all.

Like, it's just literally how well you get the golf ball in the hole. Like those two are almost mirror images of each other and they're way apart on the points list. Like that's not, that's not good points. That's exactly what that means. Because what did you say? What's Ben Griffin on the current Rider Cup points list? I don't know what he is on Rider Cup, but on the President's Cup. He's fifth currently in the President's.

Okay. Yeah, and he's 26th according to Data Golf. Yeah. So it's, yeah. And he's like 20th best American player over the last six months. Like that's what you got to change. So, like one last question for it. How would you feel if they just threw out the lists?

12 captains picks. Now we're talking now. I think it would be a remarkably similar final result. Like I think quite often, yeah. Yeah. I've been long for that. For our business. I've been long for that.

But man's up. I know. Like let's make the captain's important. Let's see who wants to stick their neck out. I'm of the opinion that qualification is kind of stupid because again, back to the original scenario I laid out. like what's the you're either going to pick that guy anyways or you're going to get stuck with a guy that you don't really want to take it only it kind of only has downside like you you almost as

the captain should be able to pick your system yeah yeah it would be like somebody like read that automatically qualified for 2014 that you probably wouldn't have got a pick and he ends up being like a stud is like the alternate of being saved by yourself you know making a making a potentially poor pick but anyways u.s. amateur at marion this past week. Our winner is Jack Whaley from the UK. He beat Carter Loughlin in the semifinals and then went on to beat Jay Lang

Jr. In the finals, 36-hole final today won four and three. Made a put on the 15th green to win that one. Rain-soaked final day. Just 15 months ago, Jack was playing N-A-A-Golf at Dalton State. Carpets a Dalton, baby.

He's now Florida State. He was down at the turn at the 18-hole turn, but Lang did not play well in the afternoon, and Whaley had it going in the rain, anti-climactic finish, but fun week. You got to watch a lot of golf, a lot of USAM this week, Neil, it sounds like. Well, not like focused. And but feeding kids.

Brother, I hear you. I was at the beach. But it's really, it's really good, you know, background stuff. I thought Marion, I really, really find that course charming. I think it really helps that I've been there and played it. And I've called it this in the past. But like it's the, it is the HQ,

the home of par force. You get those two par fives early. I think it's number two and four or five. I can't remember which one. Number four. Yeah. And then it's just all, and even the par threes are all like crazy long,

except for 13. It's just like various lengths of par force, you know, because the par three is even feel like that. And like the 11th hole is perfect. I just think it's such a good. example of like in the final match j lang junior misses right and they had NBC did a really good job and the Rolex commercial free stuff it made it i think really helped with the viewing of like the

aerial shot with the drone of that creek and then the fairway ends and it's just like the green is tiny with that finger that goes out the back but then the creek is there which is really intimidating but then there's nowhere to miss because it's all rough you know so you can't where he was he's 177 yards away. He can either lay up like 40 yards in front of them or he's got to try to, you know, send it up into the rough on the left. I just think there's a lot of charming nuance to that golf course. And I thought it held up really well with the, with the modern stuff.

And then just little stuff that makes it stand out, especially for match play, them keen off of the putting green on 14, you know, say what you want, you know, about, oh, my God, why do they have to do that? I still think it was kind of sweet from the, from the air. you're like, oh, my God, they're teed off in the middle of the practice putting green. And a lot of just funky, you were talking about angles at TPC Southwind, Sali. So many funky, like little subtle dog legs and greens that are diagonal. And, you know, just a, I thought a really good, you know, match play course,

obviously because guys, you know, they could try to bully that place. And it played, I thought they firmed it up day over day. And then, you know, obviously the rain today changed things a little bit. but yeah and now it's hard i'm not an amateur golf expert so it's but there were some stories and some guys you can kind of you know miles russell's you know kind of perk up when you when you watch him and his uh his match with um count rider yeah was awesome or rider cowen right what is it right there davis riley riley riley davis thompson you know a lot a lot of davis uh the that like that match was awesome and then

And the MGA, I know some of these, I don't know them, but I'm trying to plan some of these MGA events. This guy Matt Lowe and Christian Cavalieri. These guys are beating up the MGA. And Christian Cavalry, he lost to Jack Whaley in the, I think the round of 16 or maybe 32. But he's like 28, 29, like the last midam standing. And so you can kind of, you don't know who any of these guys really are, but you can kind of lock on to like, oh, my God, you start to like root for one guy. And then the next day, you're like, did he make it?

So I always find the USM really, really fun to watch and playing out a classic course like this. I really enjoyed it. The early rounds especially, like the match play when they got a lot going on, there's no commercial. Like that Wednesday viewing was great. I think it, you know, you get to the end and it's, you know, they don't televise the first 18 of the championship match is, it's tough, man, in today's day and age of, you know, I get that there's a lot of challenges with that, but I don't think the production has to be amazing TV quality for it to be watchable.

Like I'm trying to catch up via Twitter and watching all the videos as it is. Like just having a decent stream up somewhere for the many channels I'm paying for seems within reason. And I know I'm begging here because we get the commercial free golf during this section. And it's like some of the best stuff NBC and Golf Channel does in terms of just presenting raw golf and covering stories because they have time to do it and all that. And it's, you know, I'm not even sure if I'm directing this at the USGA or at NBC or what. but it does. I just hate that it ends on the note of like, man, I kind of would have liked to have this morning,

the golf this morning if I could have. But the strip, like John Wood did a great job on course. Kind of what we were talking about with the open or the U.S. Open of like it's smiling in the booth with Dan Hicks and it was John Wood. And that was kind of the, that was kind of the squad. You know,

they had some like, you know, whole analysis of the next hole playing. A lot easier to do a lot more time to fill. But the fact that it was just kind of like three voices. again, that is my biggest recommendation for them is like, you know, let's get Toriko in there. If we're doing the, you know, U.S. Open, like that would work, man. Like we can we can just go on course and have them volley with with one or two guys in the booth.

I think that works. Yeah. Marion, for me, I have to start with like I didn't, most of my golf watching the NOSAM was not the engaged kind, but like with sound on and like truly. locked in and watching it. So I wasn't able to follow the matches really, really, really closely and get engulfed in it. Having said that, I felt like I understand where Marion sits. I understand the classic nature of it. I, and I haven't really like fully, I've thought about this a lot, and I do not think I'm going to communicate this very well. So I'll just get that, get ahead of that

part. But I feel like it is an amazing golf course to play, amazing golf course to visit. I have so much respect for Philadelphia golf in general. The fan turn out everything to it. It's kind of closer to to Oakmont to me than I felt like I was going to feel at the end of the week. I was kind of excited to see match play on this golf course. And I still think we are seeing a bit of a massaged version of Marion that is not the most entertaining style of golf, just a lot of rough. And I don't think it, if it didn't like, stand out amazingly for me in match play. I am concerned about 2030 for the U.S. Open. I think they can do things to it to suppress the scoring. Like I think they did some of that this week. Some of the

mo lines were like the way the 18th hole played just in general of like a narrow fairway that's heavily can't. And a green that can't really hold shots from the rough was kind of like suppressed scoring for the sake of suppress scoring instead of like a really great test of golf. That's one example of it. And just there's just, there's just. just so many short holes. Like if you are familiar, you know, if you didn't, you know, not familiar with, with Marion, it's called the opening six acts are called the drama. Like they've got long, you know, holes in the early six stretch. Then there's short, quirky stretch that's, uh, the six holes in the middle are called the comedy. And the final six

holes like with the danger, uh, you know, near the end and the difficulty of long part three 17th, you know, over the quarry on 16, the difficult 18th are called the tragedy. Like that's the, it's a, it's a three act play. And we've seen this. play once at the U.S. Open in 2013. They kind of quite heavily influenced that golf course, hit some pins, made it, you know, a lot of balls hitting greens and ending up in rough

in the same spots, good and okay shots ending up in the same spots in the rough. It was just a little bit too much of that for what is regarded as one of the world's great golf courses for it to be like, compared with something like Shinnock that we just saw. That was kind of my takeaway. In terms of what I like to watch, it just was a lot of,

didn't see like I, it didn't feel like I saw a lot of variety of shot making on display on this golf course because it was a lot of chipping out of rough and a lot of hacking out of rough off the tee. That's that was my. I'm not going to argue with that. I don't, I think it is a different brand of golf, but I think it requires precision because the greens are a lot. Like the cop to op-common is where I'd push back a little bit. I think with the rough, yes, but the greens are a lot smaller and a lot more slope in them from, you know, what I, I've never been to Oakmont those. And I was referring to fairway with and rough when I would

I say Okman. Not necessarily the style of the course. Just like that, those two particular elements, I should have been clear on that. You're right. Yeah. But I mean, listen, I, you know, long, that is part of, as we said after Shinnecock,

I think that is part of American golf. And that could be like not your favorite version of that. But I think Marion's a good on the top end, like the better version of the long, scary rough type of course that, than some other places they go, if that makes it. Does that, do you know what I'm trying to say with that?

Yeah, yeah, yes. Like, it's not story. Charm and subtlety to the, totally, to the lengths of holes and to the dog legs and some of the ways the green sit on approaches. I think it makes it, I think it's much more technically challenging than just like every ball's ending up in the rough, you know. I agree on the design of that. And I think it's more, maybe I'm talking more set up then of like, sure, how it play, almost how they have to make a shorter golf course play for the best, even amateurs in the world.

somewhat similar to how I felt about erroneic about like dude I just don't know if this course can hold up lengthwise and what you've got to do to make it not be a birdie fest I'm just not overall probably going to be a fan of and it was like fine for this tournament but like looking ahead of 2030 man I'm just like I know we're going to have

potentially different equipment by then if they get that done by by then but it is just got me nervous for just some elements of of professional golf at the highest level that I don't love in terms of what they do with setup. But it's nitpicking and super niche nerdy stuff I know. But that's my gut. Well, moral of the story, I wasn't thinking too hard about it.

I just liked watching match play and especially like, you know, young guys play match play where they're just, you know, like, I'll bring up the 11th hole again. Guys just make it really bad decisions. You know, Jack Willie Dump, like Jay Lang Jr. hits it, should have laid up to the fairway, hits it in the rough on the left. and then Jackaway just plays really quickly, dumps it in the creek. You know, it's like, it's like, what are you guys doing,

man? The rain starts, it's just like a lot of variables going on. And then, uh, jing three puts the next hole. Um, I don't,

I don't know. It's just kind of fun. Um, it was fun to watch. So I didn't want to, I don't want to think too, too hard about that. You know what I mean?

I enjoyed it. I'm sorry you didn't get out to get in the merch lines. So no, you were, you were looking forward to that, uh, you know, family,

family vacation going on. I thought about it. I wanted to get down to Marion, but it just... Did you see those merch lines? I did, yeah. I would have not have been in them. But, yeah, and it is truly, like, you make the round of 64. It feels like, I mean, because Jay Lang Jr.,

he was like a 200th in the amateur rankings, like 18 months ago. And I think he won the Western AM. It almost wins the US AM. Sounds like new putter, new putting stroke, new putting, you know, just like, oh, you know, just snapped, snapped into it. Because what did you, you sent a, that over earlier. So he was like two and six and two six and two. This was from amateur golf dot com. He was two six and two in match play at the NCAA level as of 18 months ago.

And it comes to Western Am, which is match play and then almost wins the US AM. It's going to the Masters runner up at the US Ameter. And I, you know, Jack Wales dad's on the bag. Like that's just, I don't know. It's hard not to get hype when he buries like a 15 footer to win the USAM and then just gives his dad a massive hug in the rain. Like I'm, I'm, I'm here for that shit. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's awesome.

NBC does a great job, too, in these events of, like, getting people involved in their coaches and telling stories of people that have been a part of, like, you know, these final guys growing up and, you know, coaches at different levels. They had his coach at Dalton State. They had him coming into the grounds as well. They do a great job with that stuff. So we're always critical. Last thing I'll say, I want to shout out Tyler Watts, played with him, played 18 with him

at the U.S. National Development camp, the video we did back in February. And Ben, he said it to me. He's like, dude, this kid's real. He's like, the lefty. And he's going to be a freshman at Tennessee. He lost to, I think he lost to Jay Lang Jr. In like the round of 16. But just, you know, it's kind of like seeing these kids.

I'm like, oh, shit, I know that guy. You know what I mean? Like, and so he just, yeah, has tons of game. So it's, it's, it's fun to get that check. in with the amateurs and hopefully we see some of these guys pop on to the PJ tour in the next five years yeah i have i have two questions uh real quick neal the first question for you i know i know your brother would know this but remember that running joke that we've always made about how uh anytime we'd mention steve flesh you know he's from northern jack jack in way son

jack and way okay jack wayley was reminding me of that uh every time i heard his name Steve, it's Jack and Way's son. So stupid. Or maybe grandson. He might be Jack and Way's grandson. Something like that. Anyway, Steve's Flesh is either his parents or his grandparents were very close with my grandparents. And they used to be like, oh, Jack and Way.

You know, so Jack, Jack Flesh, total class act. Also, what were they given away in this, in the merch tents, I wonder? Because I do want people to know, you can go on usGA.org and they, you can buy stuff online from the I don't think it was a merch tent. I think it was the pro shop. It was the pro shop. It was just a... They were one like the Marion Marion.

They want the Whicker Basket logo. Yeah, it's all this top 100 maxing, you know, logging stuff going on, Randy. Logo bingo, baby. People want to another notch on the old belt. Yeah, okay. Well, carry on. Yeah, you got to get your Marion specific gear.

I understand that. Have to. A few things on the DP World Tour. Jeff Winther wins the, gosh, what's it, Danish Open, made in Denmark. What is it actually called now? Something. The made in Denmark, I think.

It was, but now it's called something else. But anyways, he won that today. He won that. Yeah, he won that. Great Northern, which we went to a 2022 season of Taurus, Scandinavia. The Lego family. They flipped the nines. It was an electric finish.

It was that part three? Yeah, they finished on a part three over one. Such a hard hole. And you got bodied on that hole. I hit such a good shot too and it came up just short. It was horrible. But Jeff Winther got to that hole. So, you know, dribble four, par five and then the par three finisher.

Rasmus Hoygard chipped in for Eagle on 17 to briefly tie Winther, who was putting for Eagle back on 16, who also made that put. So he took a two shot lead. But, you know, you hit that. Part three finishers are sick, by the way, one. Yeah. That would be a super dramatic hole like that where he has a two shot lead. And they were, the announcers were just like, anywhere on dry land, anywhere, just anywhere left. You got to go left here.

You got to go left. And he starts it right. Because like, and it's a longer carry to the back right part of that green. And he drew it to the middle of the green. It was a really good shot to like 60 feet. But it was dramatic. Just being up by two and just being like a don't screw up shot. Yeah.

It was a really, really good finish this morning. What are so? So you got past tempo par three finisher. What would be another? Which I think is a good one. The old white at, um, the West Virginia. why my Greenbrier was a part three finish tour championship was Eastlake was and they flipped that's right but yeah not not too many i can't you know they don't come to me very quickly i'm sure there's a few

more we i well on the lpGA tour you had mac at tewa this year for the uh for for the grog the kroger event was a part three finisher yeah um this just coming across my desk that i hope i'm saying his name right yeah yon h zo zow zow uh an 18-year-old from China. I don't recall. I was taking it back. I was kind of watching passively this morning, waiting in the airport because at a massive three-and-a-half-hour United

delay. And the announcer, I've rewound this to hear it back. Like, the announcers were like talking about this case. 18 years old. He had seven wins last year on the China tour. And he, like, the announcers were like, this kid is not a star. He is a superstar.

They were going out of their way of like, this kid is coming. Finished third earlier this year at the Hanan Classic in China and is in a massive tie for second this week. He had the lead at this point earlier in the day. I ended up finishing in second place. But just mega-sumers are 18-year-old from China, Jan Han Zao is coming. You want to claim them?

I mean, you can get here first before TC does. Sure. He's mine. He's mine. Okay. I'll say get him on the team. The International President's Cup. Presently week.

Get them on the team this year. Yeah. This goes back to my president's cup thing there there should be at least two slots on each team that have to be taken by like an under like an under 22 player you know like a rising next gen type type player this guy would be perfect can you imagine throwing him into that situation the a on the a on risks two pick yeah yeah he also hit a 514 yard drive this week neal uh on that down downhill par five it rode the car path but he did hit a 514 year.

It's still fun though. Which is sweet. And did you see Romaine Languettes? Do you see his second serve? I did. You got to click that link in the agenda. You got to be able to this was everywhere on Twitter. He has a second serve that looks like he's hitting at 55% strength, not like 80%.

No, I love that. Now this one clip that was going around did go 313 yards with this little smack that he's hitting on. but I thought for sure you would you would love the second serve from A lot of roll. Look how much he's choked up. I love this. That's it, man.

Oh yeah, just a light follow through. He did not carry it more than 2.30. Yeah. But that's it. You just want that little bleeder, you know, a little kick serve, Randy. Kind of shoots, it shoots right on you. It's good stuff.

I'd like see you do this one. I've never seen it. Your second serve is faster than that. I want to see you do a third serve. It is, but it's almost, I haven't been grooving it lately, but the problem is, and this is why you do,

I should swing slower so you can just get that hot left ball when you choke up like this. It can get, get squirley. If you forget to, like, move your body. Yeah.

If you just let your arm swing through, it's bad. Yeah, I do that a lot. I know that. It's raining does that play. So this was the Danish golf championship. That's okay.

This event was. Yeah. It will always be the maid in Denmark for me. That was a great tournament name. I don't know why we got away from that one. So, yeah. Um,

on the live golf front. this past week. You guys heard of the Live golf tour. Jamie Corrigan for the telegraph reported that live sources are quote, almost resigned that John Rom will leave the league after this season. Jamie's always got good sources. So that one definitely made my eyes perk up a little bit. Of course, is what we are expecting. There's a lot of contingencies, allegedly on this potential term sheet, investor loan, whatever's coming, that a lot of the top players need to stay. for it to come, come through. Rahm in an interesting situation again,

but almost resigned to leaving the tour next year. Where do you guys think John Rom's playing golf next year? DP World Tour. Yeah. Which I've been saying, I feel like I've been saying this for months. Everybody's act like he's been like in shackles. Like he's not,

like he can't leave live. And it's like he can. He just has to leave money on the table. But if you start to think it through, it's like he's probably got half of, let's call it 300 million, 100, let's say 150. let's say 100 just to be conservative.

I bet he got a hundred. He got a third of what he was owed. And then he won one another 80, 90 million in prize money. Like, dude, call it a day, man. Like, get out of there. You don't have to, like, you don't want to go through this legal bullshit. Like, I just have never bought into like, oh, Rob's hands are tied. It's like, they're not tied.

That's, to me, that's always been bullshit. The only pushback I'll have on that has been that. Like, we don't know the contract. Like, I don't know if that doesn't feel like it's, I don't know. And this is not that well source, but it's what we'd heard was that even if Liv exists in like a ghost ship format that he's under contract and needs to stay. Like there wasn't the wiggle room out of it or to your point, I don't know how they would call it back. I don't, I agree. My point is it's not indentured servitude, you know, like at some point it's just like, yo, it is money.

And it's like you've made a lot of it already from doing this. I would just say like at some point, I'm like, the conversation and. And ROM's camp has to be like, hey, man, let's cut her losses here. You know, like this has been a, this is, you know, you've made a ton of money. So you could argue, you could argue it's been a success for you or you could argue it's been very distracting the prime of your career. Either way, best, you know, best case here is like, why don't we just get out now? You know, and, you know, yeah, like, but then you, yeah, you add up like long term. I don't know, all this equity promise from the PGA tour.

Like maybe, maybe over time, it'll be, it'll be fun to maybe do the math on like, did he, um, missing out on the PGA tour long term money. does like did he come out ahead by making this change i i think getting just getting the cash if we're talking straight cash homie like i feel like you made a lot like let's call it 150 million just to be conservative i mean it's at least at least 180 190 i like your earlier calculation yeah right that feels that feels like it's right in that range that feels like uh in three years like all right but cut that for taxes of course of course so you know you're under a hundred million and if you are missing out on the initial grants of equity from the PJA tour and Brooks Kepka's deal is he doesn't earn it for five more years and you're not getting the Brooks deal on it.

I think you're still coming out ahead, but are you coming out ahead enough that far enough ahead to have looked back on this to have said this was a great move for me? I don't know. If you are looking at it from a straight cash standpoint, not a historical legacy and, you know, sentiment around John Rom and you know and NPS score or whatever yeah I think he he definitely is coming out ahead because all those grant I mean but not that much is the point like it not as much as you thought and that's that that that's where this is like you know you got to reframe your expectations here I know you thought you were going to get 300 million or 400 with 400 million you know the 300 plus the winnings but it's like hey man

like this the reality is like if the longer you stick around the the more money you're going to lose by not restarting the suspension clock with the PGA tour, right? Because as I understand it, he could probably, he pays, he'll wait a year. You play the DP World Tour, a ball out. And then by 2028, he's probably back on this championship series, potentially, right? If he plays well, obviously.

If he plays, if he's a dude. No, I think it's, that's still, I would think that PJ Tour is going to want them back for that. But I think it's going to come, I think we're, what is ahead still, is going to be some painstaking public, more, more winging from the Bryson and Ron crew of, like, I, because again, they're not, it's not going to be, they were offered the returning member program. I said no. I think the path back is going to be more penalizing than what Brooks got. And I think there's going to be a stalemate. A budding of heads there of like more power plays from Rom. I don't, I actually think, I, I, I actually think, I, Believe you there on on Bryson. My feel, though, is Rom's been pretty docile in his commentary,

especially the last six months. I feel like he'll probably play ball. He did not play ball very well at the DP World Tour. He famously refused. I know, but I'm saying that I think things have, I think he's kind of, like, now that they're kind of laying down the gauntlet with, with saying we're not doing these exemptions or live anymore.

Like, I feel like he might fall. We'll see. He might fall in line. But I think he's going to be playing on it. You asked like, Where do I think he's going to be playing? I think it's a GP World Tour. I think that's right.

Especially if Liv doesn't have a Spanish event anymore. I think he's heading there. But I think it's still going to get, still going to get messy for these guys coming back in 2028 because I think they're going to, they're going to look like, what are you going to go on without me? And the tour's going to be like, yo, we tried multiple times to warn you. This wasn't going to be clean if you tried to come back. And it's going to, it's going to be.

Oh, question for you. So like Patrick Reed. His clock started what, let's say October. he's technically eligible in like a week or two because of August was the last event I think he played. So my question is it just

is it just a hey you broke the rules you have a one year suspension and then and then he's does he have to do can the tour um could they what am I trying to say

could they continue to punish him or is it that a set thing? Like I'm asking that in terms of ROM like you know what I mean? Like once Rob's last let's say live Bedminster was his last live event So a year from now, he just, he ends up on the DP World Tour, or he doesn't play any golf. Could he then, uh, wherever his status is or whatever, you know, whatever exemptions he has, like, is his suspension up with the PGA tour?

Or can they say like, no, we're going to add another three years for conduct unbecoming. Because your, your revision uniforms were so ugly and the letter jacket thing was so stupid. You know, like honestly, I'm, I could. Yeah. They would not do that. I think it's good question. I don't know what reads. it's a good question.

I thought about that of what Reed's, quote, punishment is that similar to Brooks is like paying fine. I don't know if Brooks is like paying fines thing. I would have to imagine it's got to be relatively similar of, for Reed,

of like not being able to participate in the equity program for a bit. You can come back and play. You can play for the cash, play for all the FedEx Cup money, all that stuff. But the equity is going to be for the people that stayed is probably where I would have to imagine they draw the line. I can dig into that this week.

That's a good question. And so I just, I guess my, What I'm getting at is, is this going to be different for every, is the justice going to be different for every guy? You know what I mean? Which I understand on the one hand, and like, I guess that is the PJ Torres right, but it's all that might get them into some PR hot water as well. You know what I'm like? If it's like, hey, man, I did my time.

The rule said that my time was one year suspension for breaking these, you know, appearance rules. Is this where you can use our favorite term from our deep dyes? There'll be more of this coming up soon. Conduct unbecoming can be a wide-ranging phrase. And it's pretty like for Bryson, it's like, fucker, you try to sue us, man. That's, you got it is conduct unbecoming. You are going into a different category here of punishment or consequence for your actions.

And I don't think Rom, there's nothing Rom has done that comes to mind for me that would, that would come anywhere close to that. And I think the tour is going to be excited to have Ron back. Other than the uniforms. The uniforms are very bad. I mean, I just can't believe they've stuck with that pink and black. Yeah, it's awful. Awful.

I hope we get the con, God, I hope we get to see the actual contracts if, if and when live shuts her down. I would, like, I would love to see the language

in ROM's contract, you know. Yeah, because we've heard so much about this scary contract, Randy. I'm like, yeah.

I don't know. Yeah, I mean, you're, you're right, Neal, and the scary part is the deferred money in it or like the unearned money.

Yeah, I get it. Like, you got to stick around to earn the money, but at some point it's like, you'll free yourself. Just say, just say no to that money and go, you know, make it, make it again. I know easy for me to, but it's a lot easier to say when you made 180 million of it already. That's my point. Like, it was a lot of fucking money. I'm trying to square that though with his comment earlier this year about I don't see many ways out. Like, I guess that's

where I'm like, I would love to see what the, like, what language or clauses were in this contract. But if I was him, I'd also be asking questions about how your agent is paid off of all of this. Like, did he get all of his money up front? If not. Let's make sure that gets, I don't know how you call that back and prorate that because that would that would certainly be a question. To your point, you know, I would have thought all the money he made on the PGA tour and around the world into the hundreds of millions before this would have factored into factored into the decision prior to this. So that's why I no longer follow that path of like, oh, you've already made all this money. I'm sure now you'll make like the better decision for your career because that has led me into saying things I've regretted about LiveGolf over the last several years. but I agree with what you're saying there as well.

Liv finally told its players the team championship has been canceled. That only happened this past week. Then they sent out an email trying to sell tickets for it. They have finally removed. There's probably an automated campaign. Someone had it scheduled for launching on it. Oh, we forgot to turn that off. JP's working the ones in Tuesday night.

She knows what that's like. They finally did remove that ability to sell a ticket. It's, but the event is still listed on the Live website as of when we started this show. I don't know if it's still up there as of now, but for some reason, it is still listed, which I can honestly say that was my favorite live event. I genuinely enjoyed the team finale. I thought the format was great. We've used that format in some of our other events of like two singles matches and an alt-shot match.

And you play until, like, that's a great way to go head to head. Like, I was into the team finale the most. And of course, that's the event that's good. get canceled unfortunately. But the athletic also reported the DP World Tour has begun notifying live golfers that it is highly unlikely that conditional releases will be granted beyond 2026. Little, not not little, I guess people were a little surprised by this move here, but they did grant conditional releases this year. If you paid your fines and you made a certain minimum number of starts on the DP World Tour, you could play in live events and the DP World Tour. They just need a commitment for you that you were going to play a certain minimum of events.

that has gone away now this is a little bit of a throat stepping mechanism i think for dp world tour we're no longer going to do both of these things i think some factors in here of the national opens of live trying to poach national opens with dp world tour while this agreement was in place and just like uh this is not not been a friendly relationship we no longer have to placate to you and we're going to make you decide here you can't can't do both these anymore so and again if you're listening to this and you're thinking why do you get like you want to play the dumbass release game. If you sign for LiveGolf, you are no longer an independent contractor.

You're an employee of LiveGolf. You don't get releases from any LiveGolf events. It's not a reciprocal thing anymore. These guys are signing on to play these events and expect to be able to go play DP World Tour events whenever they want, despite not following the release rules of that tour, same with the PGA tour. Yet the Live Tour does not offer that at all. So it is not apples to oranges so we can put that one to rest. uh host jozel biester michael assassin peter uline and louis um masavu i'm i'm

picturing these pronations i'm sure all signed up for dp world tour cue school amidst all the uh uncertainty going on with live so god watching peter you on uh at bedminster he had great mustache kind of a unit you know big dude uh towel over shoulder the whole round uh because he's so hot out there i was like randy again the zoo and i was like man Like, it's like going to see the draft or something. I've said, I haven't thought about that guy forever. Like, seen him out in the wild was crazy. There are so many names over there that I'm like, oh, yeah.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. What's the guy in the Anthony Kim going to do if Liv goes away? That's what I'm curious about. I don't, yeah. I don't think you try to play. I don't know. Maybe not.

I was going to say DP World, but I don't know. He did qualify. for the live tour through one of the spots like I would assume the Asian tour right to do that no he qualified through their their promotions event like he was what the third place finisher I think in that and so I would imagine he would go to DP World Tour Q school but it's not yeah

yeah uh Polter had some quotes on it said I said I think time might run out so there's a hard deadline I think of September 1st there's four weeks to find 300 million dollars I guess so this was a couple weeks ago. That is not a lot of time considering people and contracts have to be signed.

You have to ask the Piff, are you happy to accept sending this business that is running today into bankruptcy to be able to have a go forward into a 2.0 version and give someone a $6 billion write-off? I don't really know what he's saying there. He said there are some who have an opportunity to play DP World Tour, and there are a few that might have the opportunity to go play PGA Tour golf because there's such big names. There are some that can't do either. Where am I at? I'm 50.

I have some opportunity to play Chesh. Champions Tour. If Liv does a 2.0, I have a choice to go and play that. It's up in the air. Which I don't think Poulter would be eligible for Champions Tour for another year. But with the suspension. But anyways. So are you going to miss when this is all resolved or how much do you enjoy the week-to-week in palace intrigue? Be honest. It has been dramatic, entertaining, funny to follow. It's been, it's been, it's been, like the super zoomed out macro like the weirdest professional thing I've ever had to deal with of just like of course yeah just some of the most unhinged people involved somehow involved in my life just making up lies and just doing the most conducting themselves in a way that I cannot imagine a human conducting themselves and just

feel like the only time I've ever like just felt a need to like I need to keep providing as much good information as I possibly can about this because there are so many just blatant lies being told every week. And at times, my energy to do that has wavered greatly. But at times it comes back and I'm ready to, I don't like people playing on my phone, man. It's time to go. And I think it has been the weirdest, most unjustified attacks we've ever received, I think, but it has undoubtedly been dramatic. I just think it, getting the golf world back together and everyone kind of rowing in a better direction. Making golf just like more approachable, more palatable, I guess, and just not this nastiness around it that there's been over the last several years

will overall be a good thing. But it's been made for a lot of content, that's for sure. I would say this, Randy, it's, I mean, for me, I've gotten very exhausted with it. But there is a bit of the way it seems to be ending, and it's not over yet, but it is a little vindicating in the way that I look at the world, I think is very pragmatic. And since day one, I've been like, this doesn't make any fucking sense. And what these people are saying doesn't make sense. And I don't understand if like there's no business case here.

And this can't last that long. And so to see it all kind of play out that way is like, all right, God, good. I'm not crazy. Like I'm not the one missing anything here. You know, like if it kind of just, my spidey sense on a lot of this stuff, it was just ringing from day one. And you're like, but I'm being called a, you know, a shill and this and that. like, Sally, you've got it 50 times worse than any of us.

But I'm right there with you. I'm like, man, it's just, I got to be honest. I don't see it. It's so for it to like wrap up is a little vindicating, I think. 100%. Yeah, it's like things make sense. You know, like I just. Yeah.

It's nice that the world sometimes makes sense. You're like, how is this ever like really? And I think the accusation that I, you know, sorry that you've heard a million times. Is it like, oh, like, you guys are getting paid by the PGA tour. It's like, the tribalism is not something that I've really bought into of like, I want the PGA tour to win. It's like, it wasn't really about it's like, no, no, I just think the PGA tour like it has its flaws, but it makes sense. Like from a business standpoint, this does not make sense.

I don't see how this is going to in 10 years like, you know, this isn't this venture back like, you know, spend it, burn it. We're on a rocket ship. I never saw the rocket take off. You know, I was never like, no, that that has legs in 10 years if you just pour gasoline. into the engine. And so that's where I've always sat with it, where it was like, yeah, I mean, I'm, you know, I side with the PJ tour only because it makes sense. That's kind of why it's always been frustrating. And I think it all goes back to Randy as well, like the time we, you know, spent in the podcast we did with Andy Gardner leading up to it, he just made it unbelievably

clear that the only way this could work is if everyone did it. And this was never going to be the case. they got what 20% of the world's best players at their peak maybe ever and so like having it very the actual business model be explained to me that it only works if everyone goes having that business being stolen and just like a bastardized version of it from the jump with a bunch of buffoons running it was like the easy that's to your point it was the easiest layup ever to see that this thing couldn't last like it couldn't possibly last yeah last longer than i thought it would honestly Like wait, definitely last longer. Like I just would have thought somebody would have seen that money disappearing and pulled the plug on this faster.

And it might technically still exist. But live the way we know it is done for sure. Well, it's just hard to, you know, being on site last week, it's, it's, you know, and being a part of a couple of startups that turn into cockroaches, it's very hard to, uh, when the momentum goes away, it's really hard to like take the plane back up. You know, like, there's just a lot of, um, people don't really want to be associated with that. It's like, oh, that thing.

Yeah, yeah, let's go somewhere else. You know, like, you don't see a lot of like startups, you know, pivot and successfully, I guess is what I'm getting at. And it's a startup that quote doesn't work when you're literally just handing professional golfers money. Like, that's not like a good investment. Like, it was never building towards anything. It just never made any sense.

Yeah, you don't get to just spend all of the money without becoming the Tom Haverford meme. I don't get it. I spent all. all my money and it's over. So anyways, Randy, you want to take us the LPGA tour? Are you going to miss live when it's going? I think I weirdly, like I have been exhausted by it for years now.

I'm aligned with Neil there, but there is a small part of me. I'm going to acknowledge that like, I'm going to be sad when it's over. I'm going to be sad just seeing the ridiculousness. If it helps, Randy, I've got enough receipts to last us another decade of just slow. Slowly slowly rolling. Yeah, I think we can get back together and kind of play the tape, Randy. You know, maybe relive it. Just, it's very unique.

It's like being a part of history a little bit. Like, man, that is just really a unique place in time, you know? We're going to still give it a few months, but I sent out a call for it of any live moment you can think of that should go into an oral history podcast that we're going to do a multi-part podcast this fall. Send it my way. there's a tweet out there that we're catching all the replies but anything you can think of the flash mob is going to be in there there's been a lot of stuff that i've forgotten about the people have reminded me of and it's going to be like 500 responses to that tweet people are stoked for that one so anyways take me to portland big yeah we'll go to portland real quick uh the standard portland classic guys this i i don't know what's going on with tie women and portland but this is they are dominating this event. It continued this year. Gino Titicum won. She came from behind today to win by one shot. Bertie the 17th hole to clip both. Bear with me here on these pronunciations.

Chinette Wanassan who shot a bogey-free 63 today. She finished a little earlier, posted at 21 under. Titicum bested her by a shot. And then our Pachaya Yubal ended up getting to 21 under par as well to tie for second. So the Thai women go one, two, three. This is the third year of the last four that a woman from Thailand has won this event. So there's something going on out there that agrees with them. Gino, I think this mirrors a lot of Scotty discussion from earlier in that like, It's been a disappointing year for Gino because she didn't win a major.

And a couple of majors, she completely no-showed. But she wins for the third time this season. It's her 10th career LPGA win. She's 23 years alike. She's extremely, extremely good at golf or just, I'm not sure much matters until she breaks through and wins a major. But credit to her for getting it done today. not my favorite track on tour sally we don't have to spend a ton of time here it's it's been a

birdie fest most years it was a birdie fest this year there's just not a you know it doesn't really challenge them like i would like to see a golf course challenge the best women in the world can i say this too like one great benefit i'd like the end in contracts whatever whatever of the LPJ when they get on the West Coast is having a finish that's not opposite of the other call there's a lot of other golf going on and like having a West Coast hour is great like when Corn Ferry's on late at night after the PJ tour wrapped that was great I would have liked it to have to have slotted in there a little bit better this evening but you know contracts whatever if a tree falls in the word yeah I don't um just a couple of Americans have Otherwise, you're going up against a playoff event and the US amateur. Like that's like, explain that to me. Like, yeah. No, it's like you put it on there if you don't care if anybody tunes in.

Like that's, which is, yeah. Sophia Schubert, American solo fourth, her best result of the year. That's one to call out. And Rose Zang, top 10. She finished tied for eight. She tweaked her back. I think that was maybe round two, but she stuck through it. shot of 68 today, finished 15 under tied for eight.

Neil, any, any, we kind of did you dirty last week. Yeah, you did. Yeah, Neil, we'll give you a chance to publicly respond. Yeah, I mean, listen, I put my name on takes. You know, sometimes they don't work out. I think, you know, Rose winning her first event ever was cool. And I might have gotten a little carried away. I like to lean into the bit sometimes.

You know, upon watching the film, like I was serious. I was, I, I had remembered that I thought I was, I wasn't, but I was. I've been carried away too, Neil. I don't, I want you to know. You don't have to feel bad about that. I am sticking with my Nelly. The road to 11.

We are, we are well down that path. I still like that one. Put that shit in the time machine. They would earn the time capsule. Those two would have to win every major. I know. That's why it's tough that I, uh, it, you know, yeah, the rose one I missed on. maybe maybe

it could be the greatest greatest stunt of all time you can turn around if she goes at men's 13 major well now I put this on tape so she does it now I've already renounced it you know how we all forgot about that like that just happened and we all forgot about

it that's what I can't believe yeah I hey you're so good though I'm I said speech was going to win eight majors all right I'm not I'm not innocent in a lot of this yeah you know but nobody ever pulls that tape to rewatch it

You know, just doing me dirty. And I wasn't even on. You didn't even give me a warning. I mean, just nasty, nasty stuff. You see, put it the agenda, which I, that I was surprised. I didn't, you know. Disgusting. So, yeah, we, I, a few news nuggets coming out of women's golf this week.

Two more Americans clinch their spots on the Solheim Cup team coming up next month. That would be Austin Kim and Yulimi no. So they have joined Nelly. Angel Yin and Jennifer Cupcho as five of the seven automatic qualifiers via points. The remaining two will get solidified after this coming Sunday's Canadian Open. And then they'll take two players via the Rolex rankings, the two highest ranked Americans, not qualified on points, and then three captains pick. That makes more sense because I just saw that in passing today.

and I thought that was captain's picks because they were doing they were posting videos of phone calls to the players that qualified. And I was like, did they do all the captain? I didn't think captain's picks were coming yet. It was in passing.

That makes more sense. Okay. Yeah, the points clenching. Our good friend Elsie, Lauren Coglin, should be one of those two that clinches points officially next week in Canada. And then

amateur news, Kiara Romero won a McCormick Medal for the second consecutive year that's awarded this time each year to the best amateur golfer in the world. What makes this one important for her, it comes with points with the LPGA has a, they call it the leap program where amateurs can get fast-tracked right to LPGA tour membership. And so by winning the McCormick Medal, she now has accrued enough points. She will stream. line right onto the LPGA tour. She has a choice. She can either join immediately, play out this year and next year, or just wait and start fresh next year. I don't know what the downside would be to just starting immediately. But she's, I think I read, she's now the fourth woman behind Lydia Co. Let me see if I can remember this off the top of my head. Lydia Co., Leonna McGuire,

Rose-Zang, and now Kiara Romero are the only multiple time McCormick. medal winners on the multiple time McCormick medal winner Rosang you know you can forgive my 13 major prediction yeah as much as I don't like the Portland event doesn't do much for me I mentioned the women are going to Canada this coming

week that's always a phenomenal event that's that's one of the better non-majors on the women's side this one will be in Edmonton at I know it's a royal golf course but outside Edmonton and that gets your get your juices going on yeah

As a royalist myself, that's an exciting love for me. So that's really kind of a sleepy week. Congrats to Gino. You know, wins are great. We just got to win some majors next year. Come on. Yeah, it's in that category of, I don't know. JP, who is running the board tonight and is our amateur golf extraordinary,

tells me that Kiara is turning pro immediately. So you can watch for her as well. Yeah. She should be a part of the majority of LPGA events here through the end of the year. Love it. As mentioned, the LPGA tours off to Canada, BMW Championship on the PGA tour. Neil, you're going out on site. Enjoy swampy St. Louis.

I will. Baseball. I will. DP World Tour is off to the Nexo Championship in Scotland, Live Golf, Indianapolis for what potentially could be the final live golf event. I forgot news of the week for me. It turns out Bryson filmed Breaking 50 at my new home club. Roxenicus. Club email went out on Wednesday.

I'm like taking a few days off. And I like open my email and drinking a cup of coffee. I'm like, huh? Oh, what? He filmed it on Monday after Bedminster with Gary fucking player. Gary. So I think the video comes out like August, the next week, like August 24th. I was like, what?

You know, if you could have been made a mad live, I was like, am I? Is this a fishing email? Like, is there anywhere for me to click here? Just really, really funny stuff. And this, Roxas is very hilly good, you know, I really like the golf course. But it would, honestly, I'm going to tune in.

I'd like, I'd like to see if you'd be pretty out there. It's a difficult golf course. But that just rocked my world. Well, I didn't know. They kept it under wraps. I don't think they wanted anybody. They didn't want any audience. I was up, you know, clubs closed on Monday.

But not for Bryson. So I was like, how about that, man? That's amazing. You want to tell us what's going on in the shop, Neil? Yeah, it's bucking. Guys, I've been wanting to run this, this promo mystery boxes. So we put like three polos for the price of two into a bunch of mystery boxes. They're flying, Randy.

Oh, really? People love the mystery boxes. I think there might be like 10 left. So get there now. There aren't many good surprises in life anymore. $150 for three polos? Yeah, yeah. No, it's price to move.

You know, and like, so basically for 150, you get three NLU polos. You pick the size. We pick the shirts. You save up to 40%. It's very simple. But it was, uh, Reed, did you approve this?

What the hell? This did not come across my death. No, we had, you know, listen, there's some stuff in there, like as final sale,

baby. Like, they might have gotten out of her skis on some inventory last year, but there's some good age and B stuff in there. And then here's what happens. You get, you get, you get, you know,

sizing's always hard. So we get, we got to clear out bins in our warehouse. And we'll have like, you know, You're like, you know, but the rest of the size run is done, you know, so you're kind of just, you have this polo up in like one of the five sizes in stock. So anyway, that's gone really well.

I think of the like 125 we did. I think we have like 10 or 20 left. So get in there and snag that if you can. But we've got like, I'm wearing one of these new H&B hats. We've got a bunch of new H&B like the fall line is is in stock. And then just like keep an eye out. More fall apparel layers are on the way. got some hats we're excited about

and then we have some really good Toras sauce theme stuff coming out later I think probably early September but store.no laying up.com go poke around get involved Randy if your nest member use your nest member discount you get 15% off all

I don't have any of the bird collection stuff yet got to get my hands on a piece I might do that tonight. I got one of those hats on right now birds are having a moment sallie. We love them. It's crazy. I love them.

It's all. DJ is off the deep end. Like DJ, I'm worried about DJ. I got binoculars out here. I got a nice, you know, view of my backyard.

I got birds of prey just circling up here. We got bald eagles in the neighborhood. And then outside of birds, I got a mama bear and three cubs wandering around. I'm out here in the boonies, guys. Black bear. Yeah. Good, good stuff going on in the neighborhood.

We got some good content this week. You guys dropped a trap draw with Stephen Dubner. as well. We had a build-out podcast. Neil went and did a bunch of research on what it's like to build out a PGA tour event for the BMW championship coming up this week. Check that out. That was a really, really, really fun podcast as well. Randy, I haven't listened. Did you guys issue the Mayaculp yet on the protein discussion or is that still coming in weeks to come? Unless Neil and Trond did. I'm not on the Stephen Dubner one. So I will say, Tron and I chop. We will address it. Randy, just to like Dubner, like just like when we, you and I, interviewed him in 2020. He, we ran through Mayaculpas and, we did a little catch up on things that were out on. I was like,

hey, Steven, you got anything you're out on. He had a list on his desk. Like, actually, I got a list of things I hate right here on my desk. I'm glad you asked,

Neil. And it was like, things I love. And some of it, it was sick. I think this first answer was, he's looking through it. I think he was writing an article for somebody.

He was like, the smell of an extinguished candle. And I was like, he was like, he was like, because it means the party's over. I was like, God,

that's good stuff so he fit right in on the chop session like he he merged onto the highway and was like our speed immediately so that was one of the best uh i don't know one of the best chops of the year i really really really uh really like hanging out with uh with dubner yeah i'm excited to listen and sally for you he wants to do a little uh collab he's like he wants to do a freakanomics episode on like pGA tour lived like kind of oh yeah just kind of wants to he's sniffing around you know true pro I'm like, I like it when a pro sniffing around. So we'll take that offline. Yeah.

And check out. We dropped the documentary this past week on our friend, Jake Trago. It's called Keep Showing Up. That is on the No Lang Up YouTube channel about Jake's battle with cancer and finding community through golf and music and the people that love them. It's a great, great, great look into a special person we've gotten to know. And I know a lot of people close to them would greatly appreciate it if you watch that one. And it turned out great.

Great word from Matt Golden and the team on that one. And if I can just kind of plug the Nest, which we highlight is our membership community here. You know, sometimes people be like, hey, what did the Nest do's go to? Like, it's projects like this Jake Trego keep showing up documentary. Like that, the, you know. It was funded by the Nest, yes. The Nest, the community played a large part in that. So I think it turned out beautifully.

And yeah, I think people should go watch it. Speaking of which, we'll look forward to Summerfest tomorrow here in Chicago. If you're looking to become, want to get some literature on the nest. Go to join. Dot know laying up.com. A ton of great offerings that come with it. Ness has been buckingup in this year, man. Hold on.

Hold on. Did I mess it up? Notlingup.com slash join. Yeah. I don't. I'm actually going to check if that redirects because that's, if it doesn't, I'm going to get on. No, it doesn't. No laying up.com forward slash join.

Come on, man. Thank you, Neil. There's a lot of promos there. I know, I know. We got to do a little housekeeping. Guys, I need some Chicago pizza. I got to go. Thank you, everyone.

You're going to wait on deep dish for like... Go to Piquad. You should get it by 9.30 tonight. Not doing that tonight. Not doing that again. Shout out to our friends at Titleist. High noon at AT&T. Thank you to Jordan Perez for running the show tonight.

We have a lot of people out this past week. Look forward to seeing everyone tomorrow for our event. And we'll see it back here next week for a recap BNW Championship. We've got a new pod. dropping Tuesday as well. You guys liked the 1994 deep dive into the PGA tour season. We did 1995. So clear some time in your calendar. Like that? You love that, Randy. It was really fun and enjoyed that one. So we'll see you guys back here next week. Thanks for tuning in. Cheers. Crack on.