No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 839 - Saturday PGA Championship Live Show

Episode Date: May 19, 2024

Xander, Collin, THEEGALA!!! Birdies all over the place for the 3rd round of the PGA Championship. Lowry's 62, J Rose 64? We talk all through the days action, discuss the course as a major championship... venue, make some calls and more. Presented by High Noon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Be the right club. Be the right club today. Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the No Laying Up live show presented as always by High Noon, May 18th, Saturday at the PGA Championship. A foggy morning in the Derby City turned into a sunny afternoon with the horses running amok at Odin's Place. The leaderboard is stacked
Starting point is 00:00:58 and we're teed up for a shootout tomorrow. Neil here, live from Brooklyn. We've got Solly back with us from the broadcast back to the podcast. How are you my friend? Yesterday was a record for the earliest the breaking news has ever hit for the the night that I'm gonna be off the show I mean before we even got out of bed It was like oh, of course Sally's out on Friday night biggest golf story of the year probably hits Immediately just not even a chance to get your coffee before that story hits but great to back. You guys did a great job last night and I'm thrilled to be here. I mean, it took, it kind of took the crown from when Kessler punched that fan at the president's cup. I think exactly right. I think this is now the, uh, anyway, moving on big Randy's here as well.
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Starting point is 00:03:02 Visit high noon spirits calmcom to find high noon near you high noon suns up Cody let's queue up the agenda. What do we have on tap tonight? We've got obviously Xander and Colin a duel. We'll be looking at tomorrow we're going to touch on Shane Lowry's 62. We've got a few segments baked in going to get an update from the LPGO LP LPGA, Mizuho, America's classic, and a final prediction on who's going to win. But first let's get a little summary. We're going to run down the leaderboard and I'm going to kick it to you guys for stories of the day. So we've
Starting point is 00:03:34 got Xander and Colin out front at minus 15 and we've got eight guys chasing within three shots of the lead, including Bryson, the medium golfer, Hovland, Sahith, and Lowry at minus 13, Team Rose and Big Shot Bobby Mack at minus 12. And then we'll get to the rest of the guys down the leaderboard. But those are the, I feel like the guys in contention. Quick correction there. Sahith's at 14 under par. Excuse me. Do not chip him on that one. He has just won back and I think he has the chance to capture the hearts of America tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I think so. I've got some things to say about that. We will get there. But early on, it was smooth sailing for Xander through the front nine. I felt like Colin was pacing up the mountain a lot of Tour de France. Randy, I know that gets you going. Meanwhile, Lowry goes out in 29 and comes in with a bogey free 62 to set the bar at minus 13 and playing with Justin Rose team Rose shot 64 to finish minus 12. So those guys got in the house pretty early. Then 15 was kind of where things changed. Three shots swing on 15. Colin sinks a birdie that goes all the way around the hole. Xander makes double after the worst swing of the week from middle of the fairway. So we'll talk about that a little bit.
Starting point is 00:04:46 We end up with Colin one up and at that time nine guys within three shots of the lead. Then we get to 18 Bryson has some fireworks with a chip in Eagle. Hovland gets it in the house with a birdie. So those guys are in the mix, which is great. Xander battles back with two birdies on 17 and 18. Colin and Sahith both birdie 18 as well. Sahith just overall riding the lightning all day. Shoots a 67 with 25 putts. I just, you know, I'm gonna, we're gonna have to break that one down. And then a couple other notes on some other horses. Rory made a run but left the block
Starting point is 00:05:18 party early. That's a bummer. We'll go through that one really, really quickly. I'm just letting you zoom past that one. Uh, I'm, I'm doing some reflection over here, Randy. Uh, I appreciate you encouraged me on that last night. And then Scotty did the impossible. He went backwards. He shot a two over 73, his first over par round of this season. And I think is it in 43 rounds? Something like that. 41, 41 straight.
Starting point is 00:05:44 So that was interesting. Cody, I would say Cody kind of called that last night. You know, a little, the adrenaline's out and Scotty went backwards today. So, I'd say, I just give my guy Cody some flowers. I don't think he kind of called it. I think he nailed it. Boom. Thank you, Randy.
Starting point is 00:06:02 The adrenaline was out of the body for Scotty and yeah, Scott wasn't there. We just a weird day for him. But anyway, Neil, this is your show. Go ahead, please. No, it's not. It's our show, Randy. Come on. Uh, Sally, I'm going to kick it to you. Story of the day. What do you got? Uh, very, very exciting finish there. A lot happening in that final 18th hole, a bunch leaderboard, I think kind of best case scenario we were hoping for Valhalla was gonna be this, that we're going into the final round without any clue as to what's gonna happen. We've got that good solid crowd out there, some energy there in that back stretch.
Starting point is 00:06:38 That's what's got me excited about it. I certainly have some critiques about this golf course and setup and how we've got here. It feels very weird to be this aligned with big Randy this far into a major championship week But it feels good at the same time But man, I don't know what's gonna happen tomorrow. I have no idea. We have a chance to bust some narratives You know a lot of guys in the mix Xander coming backwards there with that double bogey on 15 has really opened up this this tournament He had 162 yards in to the 15th hole, Icarito'd it long left into the thickest of thick rough, about a foot into that.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Honestly, a main critique I have of Valhalla is it's pretty hard to find some of these spots and to find that from the middle of the fairway with probably a nine iron in was a shocking more of a Sunday Xander thing than a Saturday Xander thing. But dude, I have going to bed at night without any one single clue as to what's gonna happen tomorrow. Randy, story of the day. Well, I agree with Solly.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I think Scotty going backwards is a story of the day, but I'd rather focus on the leaderboard and the horse race that we have for tomorrow. I think just to expand a little on the leaderboard and the horse race that we have for tomorrow. I think just to expand a little bit on what Solly said, what makes it super interesting is
Starting point is 00:07:56 we saw Shane Lowry shoot 62 today. He went off pretty early. We saw his playing partner Justin Rose shoot a 64 today. So I'm sitting here tonight wondering, you know, is this the or somebody perhaps here at 10 under. I just think we're in for a totally open-ended day tomorrow. And whatever gripes we have about the golf course, it is kind of fun to sit here on a Saturday night and truly, truly have no idea who or where the winter tomorrow is gonna come from.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Yeah, I think we'll unpack the golf course stuff shortly, but I would say my story of the day is I think it's going to be in that final group tomorrow between Xander and Colin. I think we're going to learn a lot about both of those guys. I sent Cody a graphic earlier. I was just thinking about the true detective McConaughey time is a flat circle. Like are we doing it again? But then I was like, well, I feel like Xander might be doing it a day early.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Um, so, so maybe that's helping them, right? Like it is tough for mentally, for some guys to play with the lead. That doesn't excuse the fact that he can't play with the lead. Like he's going to need to do that if he wants to be a dude. But I'm wondering if being tied and kind of being in this final group, being in a horse race without the lead, does that free him up to be more aggressive tomorrow? Is time a flat circle? That's what I'm wondering. On the flip side, Morikawa looked like awesome all day. I mean, he got off one bogey on the front nine and then I felt
Starting point is 00:09:36 like he just kind of, he was very patient. He bided his time and I thought he played really, really well in the back and he pounced when Xander made a mistake. So those two guys, I think the winner's coming out of that final group, which I think is almost a stick your neck out play to say that. I mean, you got so many guys right behind them that can all like, I mean, just dudes only, right? Like, I mean, big names, Chasen, like Bryson, like, I don't know. There's a lot of guys in the mix, but I think the final winner's coming out of that group.
Starting point is 00:10:07 What say you, Selly? Well, I'll caution everyone for tomorrow. This happened today, and I'll caution everyone again. In tournaments like this that are turkey shoots, it's a race to a number more than it is a leaderboard climb. Seeing Shane Lowry shoot up the board today and tie for the lead doesn't really mean a whole heck of a lot when Xander's got seven, eight holes more to play, right? Like there's just a ratio there of, you know, a lot of value is going to come from
Starting point is 00:10:29 having a lot of holes to play, which is different than a lot of major championships. So that's almost certainly going to happen tomorrow. Someone, Finau, JT, Lee Hodges, Harris English, Austin Neckro, Thomas Detriot, 10 under, like one of those guys is going to probably shoot four or five under on the front nine and like jump up to the lead. Rory will too. Rory will. I know of course will so especially if I go on a walk or Just leave my apartment for a little while. So
Starting point is 00:10:53 So what a tease that was all I ask is don't fall for it, right? Like you gotta look at how many holes are remaining you got to understand like, you know that it how much of an advantage It's gonna be tomorrow to have a ton of holes to play. That's one thing but it is like, I can I honestly say the Scotty situation today, even if it was somewhat predictable based on what happened obviously yesterday and kind of coming off the adrenaline and it's into today should have seen that coming more than I did. But it honestly just throws that curve
Starting point is 00:11:22 ball into say like, we don't fucking know what's gonna happen. Right? I mean, we don't know that Xander's gonna collapse tomorrow, like he's done it a bunch of times, you could have a really strong belief, but hey, maybe like that, you know, having that shitty hole in 15 today is the kind of jolt he needed to have a different approach into tomorrow of some kind.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Instead of he's sleeping on a two shot lead tonight, all of a sudden it is this narrative, you know, can I close it, can I close it? I don't know. I really don't know. We've seen Colin close it multiple times in majors. Does that mean he's going to do it the third time? That's obviously not gone that way for someone like Jordan Speed sometimes at the Masters after he won in 2015. We thought he'd shut the door in 16 and he absolutely didn't. So a lot of mystery. And so you said you think the winner's going to come in the final group. You know,
Starting point is 00:12:05 Data Golf's got about a 57% chance that it does come from one of those two guys. So it'll stick your neck out. You're way out there of the 7%. I wasn't making fun of that. I think that's like a pretty no, I mean, it feels like an obvious thing to say. But then I'm like, I don't then I start looking at the names down the leaderboard. And I I'm like, and what you're saying, like, yeah, man, like what Larry did today flirting with the great unknown. Take it easy, Jimmy. I don't know. I think the natural discussion then is what's the target number, right? Sorry, to your point, like what what if you're amongst this top, you know, 10 tonight, what what's the number you guys have in mind that you need to go reach tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:12:43 number you guys have in mind that you need to go reach tomorrow? I threw that out on Twitter, Randy. 34% of people said 20 under or more, 34% said 19, 25% said 18, and 7 said 17 or less. So I would definitely not feel comfortable at 17. 18 could potentially do it, but I'm at least gunning for 19 or 20. I think 19 is the number I was thinking. 19 feels right to me to at least get a playoff. Which like then all of a sudden it's yeah Justin Rose is going to shoot 65 tomorrow or 64 tomorrow excuse me Robert McIntyre 64 like it does kind of make your eyes go a lot closer to the top of that leaderboard. That's again that's why the odds are going to favor those guys near the top.
Starting point is 00:13:25 So one other guy, another story of the day for me personally was Sahith. I feel like every time I looked at my TV, he was hitting it to all parts of the park. I know I'm with the Seamsters Union here. I mean, the guy is going Oppo, he's pulling it down the third baseline. It doesn't matter. And then, you know, he's digging out a double. his, it's like his reactions to everything too, are like not so much disgust, but hang dog. And yet he stays like on the first page of the leaderboard. It's, it's, it doesn't like Randy, it's a true eye test. Like it's not passing the eye test. I don't understand it. He, if I had to make the baseball analogy, I'm going to try this out on you guys. He's reminded me of Vlad Guerrero, swinging at everything all over the strike zone. He's
Starting point is 00:14:09 hitting ground rule doubles to right field. I mean, he's just wiling out out there. And so I struggle to trust that on a Sunday at a major, but God, I'm going to be rooting for it. I mean, it's hard not to root for it. It's fun golf to watch when he's hauling out flop shots to root for it. It's it's fun golf to watch when he's holding out, you know, flop shots on, on the back nine, it's, it's incredible. Sally, I know he's your guy. So how are you feeling about Sahil? I love that cop.
Starting point is 00:14:33 First of all, like just hitting balls that are bouncing in front of the plate, you know, over shortstop, I mean, he's, he is all over the place. Is there anything better than being known as a bad ball hitter too? Like, what an honor, you know? Like I mean that as a compliment, but like, is very stressful to watch. And, you know, it's like, oh, man, yeah, he went like one for four with three strikeouts, but he had just an unreal triple to right field, you know, that was a great hit.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Well, usually at this point of a tournament, you can check kind of the how guys are doing it, the strokes gained categories and see like, all right, 54 holes in, you know, ball striking rules the day. And that does not seem to be the case through 54 holes. Like Shane Lowry's got negative strokes, gained ball striking so far. And he's, uh, you know, a couple back from, from leading this tournament. It does seem to be a golf course that's going to, you know, you can chip and
Starting point is 00:15:21 putt your way around it. You know, you make some long putts on here, gain a lot of shots on the greens. More than a normal tournament. That makes me feel better about Sahith. Right? Again, I don't know if it lasts four rounds, but, um, I mean, back 931 in the thick of things, he's not in the final pairing tomorrow. I think that's a great thing for him.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Just kind of being, you know, one shot back, but one group ahead is better than, you know, having to wait for that final pairing. And, uh, he didn't, you know, he hit it, he hit it not great today to be honest, his iron play was not good enough to go out and win it tomorrow. But man, he got the ball in the hole and he's like, I don't know. He might be my favorite guy to watch. I was probably, he's T1 with a lot of other guys as far as favorite players to root for. And I'm absolutely thrilled he's there tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:16:04 That's where a lot of my emotional energy is going to be invested tomorrow. And it kind of snuck up on me, honestly. I don't know if I fully saw this coming on this back nine. I mean, 25 putts is, I just want to know what it feels like to have 20 in the 20s, 29 putts. I mean, I just struggle to comprehend 25 putts. Randy Sahith, what's he doing for you? comprehend 25 putts. Randy Sahith, what's he doing for you? He, uh, you know, for, for as many kind of crazy places as we've seen him, I was just looking at his three round scorecards here. It's crazy that he's only made four bogeys, quite honestly. I would have guessed he's made many more than that. Um, so while, while he has been a bit erratic, he, an ability to correct and to get the ball in the hole. Yeah, I would
Starting point is 00:16:53 love to see him win. I think for this type of major with Scotty bowing out of the proceedings, with Brooks bowing out of the swath of people that would not only get to know him, his dad is quite a character, it just would be a very good winner I think for the game of golf and to just bring more characters into this game right? I think that's an important thing. I got a this comment scroll pass and I thought it said something different than it does but I'll flash it up here from Kevin Quigley he said, love saw it just makes me nervous as hell watching I'm with Neil and I thought he said just like Neil and I'm like, yes, that is that is so well said. Like that is so well said. He reminds me of watching Neil chasing the mega bonus. That's exactly how I feel watching the side. It's not really the way you're supposed to do it. Doesn't look like the way you're supposed to do it, but when it's good, nothing looks better than when you're doing it. Sometimes
Starting point is 00:18:03 we, you know, we end up a little bit short and expend a lot of emotional energy, but that's exactly what it feels like watching Sawhead. Two things it's not. It's not efficient. It's not stress-free. And I would say that I probably, unfortunately, have in common with him, the post-shot reactions. It kind of runs the spectrum. It's not so much anger. It's just like, damn it, not again. And then another, and it's hitting that big right miss runs the spectrum. It's not so much anger. It's just like, damn it, not again. And it's hitting that big right miss off the tee. Like there, you know, hand up. There's some similarities there. All right, Randy, I want to come back to you. I want to move into our first
Starting point is 00:18:34 segment. We're going to do a little draft here. And the best or most compelling winners. We're going with three rounds. So, you know, kind of got a, it's a bit of a take sale here. There's some guys, once we get into the later rounds, you got to maybe reach in for a storyline, but let's see what you got. What's up first? First round pick in 2024, most compelling winners. Gosh, I know, I know, Soli Kovetz, right? He kind of just tipped his hand there. I'm going to go.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Guys, I just can't figure it out. Do it. I'm I'm back in on Colin. Oh I thought you're gonna say. No, I thought you say something different. Damn it. No, I'm I'm I'm taking Colin. I I just think it's it's tough to overlook at his age three major championships and the historical significance and relevance of that. Like that's what gets me excited watching golf. It's for people chasing greatness.
Starting point is 00:19:31 And I think he's got a chance to take a really big step in that regard tomorrow. So I know we've had our differences about the dog. I know I've completely sold all my call in stock, but I'm back in. I'm back in. I enjoy watching. I think it comes down to this. I just enjoy watching him play golf and I think that's not nothing, you know, and I find myself kind of naturally rooting for him despite, you know, some some philosophical differences over some things. Hell yeah, big. Don't ignore your gut.
Starting point is 00:20:05 That's so well said. Like if you just like ask me point by do you enjoy watching Colin play golf? Yeah, I do. Yeah. Do you enjoy watching Xander play golf? No, I don't. And I don't know if I can explain why, but I just don't.
Starting point is 00:20:15 No, I know. Yeah. It's like stick me in front of this painting or that painting. It's like, yeah, I kind of like that one. I don't know why, but that's Colin for me. Big sold low and his buying high. David Stewart comments. That's it's a, it's the surefire way to financial ruin.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Oh man. That's good stuff. All right, Sally second pick and then we'll snake it back. So I'm going to go double. Is this like most compelling for the golf world or for me? I don't know. Take it wherever you want, man. It's our show.
Starting point is 00:20:41 You make up the rules, brother. No, it's right. Outback. Take it. Saheb. I've taken Saheb. I. I don't know him as a major champion would. It's just a whole different world for, uh, for him. And you know, that could springboard him to so much
Starting point is 00:20:54 into, you know, he's already a popular player from the Netflix series. And I just talk about just loving the way somebody carries himself on the golf course. It if we could all model our game and our golf swing after that guy's like arm tension, like, I'm so envious of how free swinging and freewheeling he is and emotion to the ball and going back to like, does that enjoyable to watch compared to how Xander does it? It just is to me. It's
Starting point is 00:21:19 just a wonderful playing style. It's different. It looks different than some of the other guys. Nicest guy in the world. Great interview, great to do videos with. It's 10 out of 10. Sahith for me. I love it. I would say another stressful thing for me with Sahith is how he lines the ball up so close to the hosel. I don't know if. Yeah, I'm with you there. It's like I thought it was a camera angle thing, but then I'm like,
Starting point is 00:21:39 Oh my God, it's like right on the neck. And I just can't believe he doesn't shoot it straight. That's part of why I can't take them one one overall, right? Like it's stuff like that where it's like, no, I don't like seeing that. I don't like that. Randy's got too much scar tissue with that. I've seen that too much. I don't want, I don't want anything to do with that.
Starting point is 00:21:55 All right. So I love that. I think that's good for you. I think that's good for the golf world. That's, that's exciting stuff. I'm going to go. Do you get two picks? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:02 You've got a couple of good ones here. So I'm listening. I'm taking Xander for the storyline. I think that it's, um, like we mentioned earlier, I think it's an opportunity to fight off the yellow King, you know, time might not be a flat circle this time around. And I think for golf itself, I want the field chasing Scotty Scheffler to strengthen. I want Xander to become a guy that's like,
Starting point is 00:22:26 all right, now he's done it. And like, yeah, maybe there's going to be some chatter around. Well, this wasn't a real major. The course is too easy, blah, blah, blah. I don't care. If he gets the monkey off his back, who would say that? Who would ever say that? I can think of a couple of guys in Jack's Beach that might. But if he gets the monkey off his back here, then I said it last night, I think he fits really well at Augusta. And I think it frees him up to potentially, even if you don't like him, having him be a major winner and then pushing for multiple majors makes the conversation of this generation
Starting point is 00:22:57 a lot more interesting. So I think him, and I think this is a really good opportunity for him to get it done his best yet by far, obviously he's in the lead, but Scottie's not on the board. He said in his interview yesterday that like he feels like he's chasing. We're all chasing Scottie. There's been blood in the water when I shoot 62. Well, listen, man, now you're tied for the lead. You're not out front like loosen up and go get it fucking done. Like that's, that's got that. I'm kind of rooting for him to get the monkey office back. Cause I'm getting sick of like, I'm kind of getting sick of seeing them on the leaderboard and not winning. It's
Starting point is 00:23:26 getting boring for me to talk about. Right. So let's flip the fucking narrative is where I'm at. It's, it's so interesting, Neil, because like by almost any measure, he is like the second best golfer in the world by numbers. And just if you ask people in the street who who's Scott, he's gonna be number one, who's the second best golfer in the world? Less than 10% would probably say he's the second best because it just doesn't resonate with fans unless you don't win right and I'm
Starting point is 00:23:48 listen I'm usually riding for the dudes that don't win but play really good golf but it's like it's time it gets totally time Xander like you've been here enough it's time to like you know otherwise now we're down this path of like dude are you like I don't I don't know what your comp is at this point is it like Colin Montgomery at this point I mean you know and I don't, I don't know what your comp is at this point. Is it like Colin Montgomery at this point? I mean, you know, I don't want to do that. I don't like watching, even if he's not the most, most charismatic guy. I just don't like watching, is that like, I need to understand if that's real. I'm going to be looking for that tomorrow. That seems so outrageously high. Like I know he moves it, but that's like, it feels like, you know, I see cam young, it's like one 88 maybe. Right. And I just don't, I don't know. So something to watch for the people out there, but I feel like Xander is,
Starting point is 00:24:40 like you said, he's hitting the ball pretty much better than anybody in the world, at least today. That does not seem like a right reading to me. That one jumped off the page to me as well. His ass has increased his speed, but he doesn't seem like he's lashing out that much harder. That would be outside of his normal range. He is in the upper 180s, which is a difference from last year with his work with Chris Como, but I'd be stunned if it was actually registering 192 could be, I could be wrong there, but it just doesn't seem right.
Starting point is 00:25:07 All right. Let me hit the snake here. Oh, go ahead. Well, I was just going to say, I'm, you kind of have me excited, at least interested, right? Excited in an interested way about Xander tomorrow, because I think you're exactly right. If he does come out and let's say you shoot 65 and he wins, like I have to respect that there's nowhere for me to go.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I promise I won't be the guy like this doesn't count. I listen, if you win a major championship, that changes a lot. And he's a guy that I've, I've picked on and, and like this is the opportunity, man. Like there's no Scheffler, there's no Kepka, there's no real big bad wolf. No bull, man. Exactly. Like you gotta be the bully tomorrow. I think, you know, I'm sure Xander is doing as much as possible, like not to
Starting point is 00:25:57 put pressure on himself. But from an outsider's perspective, it's like, man, this is a big test for him tomorrow. And that's exciting. Hell yeah. Baby, the block a big test for him tomorrow. And that's exciting. Hell yeah. You know, I got that baby. The block party turned into a take sale. Brandy's buying. I got the tee shot at 298 and rolling out 22 yards on seven.
Starting point is 00:26:13 That doesn't sound like one thing to me. All right. But it's, I saw the same thing on Friday though. That's what's making me so like what is going on on, on the num, on the numbies on seven. All right. Let me hit the snake. I'm coming back. This is a tough one. I got two guys.
Starting point is 00:26:29 I'm going to take Hovland though. I think Hovland is just like, whoa, here he is again. We're picking up with kind of the same argument I'm making for Xander. Like hey, he's been close the last year. He's been in the wilderness a little bit. So you got to, nobody loves a comeback story. Like you know, like your boy right here, like America. It would be fun to see him just rise to the challenge, unfinished business from last
Starting point is 00:26:56 year. I think, again, it strengthens this generation. Then you've got Victor and Colin, those guys in the same class, that argument starts to become a little bit better, or a little bit, I don't know, harder to decide who's going to have the better career. So I think for me, Hovland has a lot of juice. So, Ollie, I'll send it back to you. Got extreme value coming back at this. I know, I know. I almost took him at two here, but give me Bryson. I want him, I need it.
Starting point is 00:27:26 I absolutely needed the YouTube content creator, two time major champion. It's a remarkable, he has such a unique playing style and disposition that he is truly just one of the great jackasses of our time, like not a good dude. He seems to be carrying himself way better now, but has done so many so many things for to make people not like him that are very very justified and still somehow I would enjoy watching a play and finding myself rooting for him in golf tournaments. It's He's getting less and less offensive as time goes on
Starting point is 00:27:59 Randy I know you were big in on this guy way back in like 2017 and he probably done a lot since then maybe It would change your opinion on that but like I'm coming back around. He got rid of the dumb hat. Uh, he, I missed the big body, but man, it's, I'm excited for Bryce tomorrow and I would love for him to be in the hunt. I think that's right. Tali no quibbles. He's an interesting character and there's a dearth of them
Starting point is 00:28:21 usually in, in professional golf. So you gotta acknowledge that. I saw a stat. I them usually in professional golf. So you got to acknowledge that. I saw a stat, I think it was Justin Ray. If Bryson were to win tomorrow, he would join Jack and Tiger as the only guys to win a US AM, a US Open and a PGA, which is very exclusive company. Yeah, he, God, I forgot all about that stupid hat until, until you said that earlier. I'll give them this. that's a lot of stuff. Um yeah,
Starting point is 00:28:47 he got I forgot all about that stupid hat until until you said that earlier. He he I'll give him this Bryson has a flair for just a moment creating moments for for you know that chip in on eighteen. We even saw a seventy-second hole at Augusta
Starting point is 00:29:04 like he he he gives us moments and that's a lot more than you can say about a lot of these guys. So I absolutely agree with the pick there, strong value. I had to I had to let him fall to my big board. I just you know, we got a great locker room right now and I just didn't know if I needed that that off the course stuff. So Randy, we're coming to you second round pick. I'll say you can afford one guy in the locker room like Bryson if you've got the culture to offset it. It's kind of the rule in baseball. Well, sorry, Randy. I'm not taking one guy in the locker room like Bryson. If you've got the culture to
Starting point is 00:29:25 offset it, it's kind of the rule in baseball. So, so I'm ready. Uh I'm not taking Shane Lowry. He does. I'm sorry all people from Ireland. The guy just does absolutely nothing for me. I know he's like a great guy. I know everybody
Starting point is 00:29:40 loves him. I just there's nothing much I I really enjoy or gets me going watching him play golf. So we're going down the board a bit. God, I'd be smirked Robert McIntyre earlier this week. He's stuck around this leaderboard. Rose in, no chance I'm taking him. Mean Dean. I'm gonna, I'll take big shot Bob McIntyre.
Starting point is 00:30:03 You know, this could be, he feels like a guy. Again, I'm gonna disrespect him here, but he feels like a guy. If he wins one, that's probably all he's gonna win. I know our buddy Jim Hartsall loves him. I love Scotland. The Scottish people love me. Like, why not Bob McIntyre? You know, who cares?
Starting point is 00:30:26 Randy's refuses to take a storyline. He can't get behind. I appreciate that. All right, you're snaking buddy. You're going your third round. I want to be going here. How many rounds are going? I think this is the last one.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I think it was the last one. My my third one. I'm going to take JT Justin Thomas. He's got to shoot 63 least, I think tomorrow. Hometown Kid, that's fun. Three majors, all PGA championships is the kind of weird Wikipedia page I dig. Give me JT, I guess. And I will say, to be fair, a third major championship, not nothing.
Starting point is 00:31:02 That would be incredibly significant for him. So- That's big, that's. So I'll take JT. I got to take Shane here. If you're going to, I mean, this would be two majors for Shane. This would be an open championship and Valhalla. Like couldn't be two more, uh, very, very different types of majors too. I'm a Shane Lowry guy. I love the dude.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I think he's one of the more genuine guys out there and probably one of the best guys to sit around and hang with. And, uh, really weird career. Can't really quite figure it out. But it would definitely change my perspective of him if he went out and won it tomorrow. I'd be very surprised though with how he's hitting the golf ball and the sustainability models have concern. I can't believe you didn't pick big tone, Solly. Unbelievable. Just bailing on your guy. He's sitting there at minus 10. Unbelievable. Undrafted by Sali. You guys don't hear me writing for him at majors. All right. Let's just, we can set
Starting point is 00:31:52 the record straight on that one. You don't want to take the next step after, you know, it's Puerto Rico, then it was the big, big Northern Trust. And now you don't want to see him do a major? I haven't seen it. I got to see it, right? I mean I can only give you what my eyes see Fair enough. God you're gonna love this one Randy. Give me team Rose and I'll tell you why you're going to me Nobody wants to see it and I think that would be a pretty funny storyline at Valhalla like oh, okay Yeah team wrote to two majors for team Rose Just you know, I don't want to see it. I don't know if anybody wants to see it other than maybe DJ
Starting point is 00:32:27 But it would be we're good here. We have enough It's third round baby. We got a we got a we got to take a storyline. I don't know He played really well today though. I mean credit to him 64. He and Lowry were vibing their faces off in that group And he had got he had a great shot into 18 from like 256. So didn't come down, didn't come down the ridge, but it was, you know, he played some serious golf and Justin Rose deserves a lot of credit for, I mean, great late career stuff going on for him. Like he's still very relevant. And I think still one of the few guys I can say like moving to the claws, like, okay, he's like a
Starting point is 00:33:10 like rolls the rock now. And I feel like a lot of guys that have to switch the claw, I still feel like putting is always kind of iffy. And I feel like he's, you know, he's rolled it pretty well late in his career. So I would say just be prepared for me to celebrate the shit out of saw hit winning tomorrow. And then if the winner is not who I want it to be to be like Afa halla deserves to have like, you know, Lee Hodges, you know in the clubhouse. All right, that's what they deserve Just be prepared for that tomorrow. That's coming either way. Thank you. Thank you for calling that out. All right Good stuff there. Let's go a couple quick hitters one mulligan to hand out So give a guy if you want to give him a shot back, what's it going to be? Soly, you go first. I would love to have Scott, for Sky to have his tee shot
Starting point is 00:33:49 on two back, you know, if he doesn't put that in the bunker, does it lead him to putting the way down almost in the water with his second making double just totally things started moving quickly for him at that point. Like he shot 73, it wasn't that close, but that early on of a shot, you know, if he hits that one in the fairway knocks it on the green, you know, maybe gives it a good run going to three played relatively easy today, four was drivable and you know, bogey
Starting point is 00:34:10 and that one, like maybe that sequence goes differently. And maybe he doesn't get his energy zapped and and fade back that quickly because it does still felt like this was his to to win or lose. If he shoots three under today, he's sitting at 12 under just a few back. That's that's the mulligan I'd hand out. Sure. Randy, what do you got? I have literally take your pick any of Rory's birdie putts on the back nine
Starting point is 00:34:32 today, I'll single out his putt on 11 though. He was on a run of four straight birdies and that's the type of run he needs, right? And the par 311, he gets up, he hits an excellent shot to 11 feet. and he's got great birdies and that's the type of run he needs, right? And the par three eleventh, he he gets up, he hits an excellent shot to
Starting point is 00:34:53 eleven feet and he doesn't make the putt and after that on twelve, he misses like an eight footer for birdie thirteen he misses like a fourteen footer for birdie then Bogey's fourteen fifteen. He misses like a thirteen footer for birdie seventeen. He misses uh what is it a like a six footer
Starting point is 00:35:12 for birdie like it it just you make that birdie on eleven and you got a chance to do something special and he didn't and he didn't do anything special. So II that would be my mulligan today. How you doing Neil? Neil? Oh man, I was great this morning. I was at peace.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I, after our ESPN thing, I went for a run. Cody, I had to get my miles in and then I met a friend of ours from Australia, a party panther came to the neighborhood. We had a couple pops. I took my dog. It was, we were having a lovely time. I was out and I come back. The first thing I see is him miss that birdie on 13 Randy, you know, I got push everyone
Starting point is 00:35:48 I mean I had like a hundred notifications like I'll bring it ice I got the cooler push is coming over with diet Cokes. Ah, and I'm like, oh I got wrapped up in it again I got wrapped up with the wrong crowd again Are you are you are you drifting towards our side of the beaten down side the people that you know have? Been there for years of just to have this tissue that are you see where we're coming from? Technically, I've been here for years and I feel like I've said that I can be hurt and I can handle it. Maybe I'm giving myself too much credit. I don't know. But God, we got Quail Hollow next year. Like, man, like don't fall for it. It's not going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:36:25 After the Ryder Cup last year, I looked into the camera and I made myself a tape and I said, hey, play this back for me before they go to Ireland and do that in 2027. Like, don't let me pick them. Like, don't let me fall for it. Remember the pain, remember this moment, remember the feeling,
Starting point is 00:36:41 because a lot of things can happen between now and the next one that can convince you that it's gonna go differently And it's been to we've seen it enough times like he literally just won on a perfect golf course fit rolling into a golf course that's perfect fit for him and just like is a different player a totally different player is not the same alpha and I was starting to buy it a little bit this week just a little bit you that you that magnetic pull happens every time and Dude, it's just not it's just not there.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I don't know if it's going to fall. Yeah, but then it's so hard to square that with our conversation last night. Somebody asked a question, does he get 0 or 2 plus majors? And it's like, oh, well, he's got 40 more good shots at it. He's only 34. And so you start to do the numbers. You're like, well, god, he's playing.
Starting point is 00:37:24 He's top of the world, top three. It's just start to do the numbers. You're like, well, God, he's playing, you know, he's top of the world. Top three. It's just like back to the Xander numbers conversation. It's like, what the fuck, man? So I don't know, Randy, I'm going to leave it on. I'm going to leave it on. Your text has been read, but I'm not going to respond yet. It's kind of what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I'm going to leave you on the hope. It's the hope that kills you, Neil. Just remember that. I know. Hope that kills. Um, all right. I'm going to, my, my mulligan is easy, but I'm almost rethinking now. I'm Xander's shot from the fairway on 15. I mean. All right. I'm going to, my, my Mulligan's easy, but I'm almost rethinking now. I'm Xander's shot from the fairway on 15. I mean, good Lord. Now he comes back with
Starting point is 00:37:51 two birdies on 17 and 18 and I've kind of talked myself into now. I mean, look, I get right off the club face. I was like, you know, we got it on screen here. It's just like, Oh my God, that's like, is that going to be in the crowd? Like just hit it in the worst spot possible makes double. Now I'm thinking maybe that was a good thing, like a blessing, like take, Oh my God, you know, he's reeling. He hits it in the rough on the next tee. And he, he settles himself, makes par on 16, comes back with a birdie on 17 and a birdie on 18. And now, like we said, he's kind of in a horse race and he's not playing with the lead, which seems to be a kind of a mental hurdle for him. So I bet he wants to mulligan on that shot, but you know, so I'll give him one if he wants
Starting point is 00:38:30 it is kind of what I'm getting at. All right. That was a, that was a nice par on 16 that he hit that he had was deeper off right of the fairway, uh, gets it up to the front of the green good to putt. And then yeah, really nice birdie on 17, 18 is kind of a, a gimme birdie hole. Um, I'm going to save. He may have the only thing it's like, he may have brought like Bryson and Vic into this and, and I'm not sure you want to bring those guys into it if, if you can help
Starting point is 00:39:01 it, but I agree with everything else. I still like, I think the best, I don't know, analogy you've made is I still don't think there's some really, really, really good golfers and big names on the leaderboard, but it doesn't really feel like there's a bully up there dessert for everybody. Let's go with the stick your neck out prediction. Randy, I'm gonna go to you first. A stick my neck out prediction. I'm not very prepared for this because I didn't have a good one, Neil, if I'm being quite honest. I'll take it if you want it. you want to move on we'll move on.
Starting point is 00:39:46 What do you got? Please, please go. I think somebody's gonna have and I don't know who but I think somebody is gonna have a massive hole out tomorrow like a hole out from the fairway or a hole in one there's gonna be a huge one huge moment of somebody sucking a ball back in or something like that that is just gonna you know we're gonna see eight different replays of it and I again I don't know who it's going to be, but I think there's gonna be one huge moment like that at some point tomorrow. I like that.
Starting point is 00:40:11 That's it. That's a really good one. Um, I'm going one more, more on the odd side. Um, so I get, yeah, let's pull up that we'll do the fan duel, uh, break down some odds. We'll look at the leaderboard. My, my stick your neck out prediction though, is I think Scotty is going to be back door top 10. I think he comes back tomorrow revenge round and balls out. Like I think that, and so I had a, I actually picked the really my parlay is still alive.
Starting point is 00:40:37 People can still get on board with this. Obviously all odds, courtesy of FanDuel official sports book and no laying up odds, of course are subject to change. Got some great odds on Xander and Scottie to top 10. Parlayed with, Randy, you're going to like this, the New York Knickerbockers and the Denver Nuggets to win game seven. Wow. A couple of home teams winning game seven. Plus, 561. We're still alive. I think my original odds are like plus 1200 something. So I like where we're at. If people want to hop on board, come on, get on the bandwagon. That's my stick your neck out prediction though as part of this parlay is Scotty to top 10 tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:41:13 The segment was supposed to be like come up with a play Saturday night into Sunday and Neil used it to tout a play from earlier this week. It's not going to hit. And it's still good on board. 561, those are good odds. I think this hits for sure. You can't current, like this is not what it would currently be. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:41:29 I did it literally before the show. This is what it currently is. Scotty is plus 125 to top 10. He's 1024. Doesn't, that's what it said. I did it at 6 PM. Yeah, but he's three shots back. I stand correct.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I did not know I did not realize the original odds were like 1241. No Scotty's got a TV show. Scott. This is also a genius pick because we won't know the result of that nuggets game during the live show tomorrow night. So who you know, it for sure could hit for a long time. Scotty's plus 260 to top 10 as of right now, not plus 125. So that's why I did it.
Starting point is 00:42:07 I did it at 6 PM. So even the odds are going to be better. So that was before they went to 15 probably. Or you know what I mean? Like there was a lot that happened in the last hour or two. So again, odds are subject to change, Randy. We know that. We know that.
Starting point is 00:42:21 We know that. But let's see, if you want to have some fun, hop on board. All right, Solly, let's go down to the leaderboard. Any odds jumping out to you here to win finishing position? Two time major winner in the final group. Nobody had them on the board. I know it's bunched. I know a lot of crazy stuff could happen.
Starting point is 00:42:36 I think by the time I sent this over to Cody, Colin Moorkow was plus 300 to win. He's down to plus 260 now that both he and Xander birdied the 18th hole but that was the one that was jumping out to me of Just to do that's done it and looks really good right now I feel I feel like I can trust him a lot more than I can Xander And with that lead, I know a lot of people gunning for him, but I don't know dude done it twice That's that's where my eyes go My mine is listen, I have some scar tissue with Bryson and the little wedges around the greens that's that's that's where my
Starting point is 00:43:26 a guy. He's he's obviously found something in the swing. He was flagging the ball today. I mean he could shoot 60 what? Well, shit 65 gets him to that 19 number right so. Yeah, we see his Instagram from his reunited coach Joseph Mayo
Starting point is 00:43:43 Gull saying I am pleased. Uh, I think a lot of good stuff with Vic and if we're just hunting for value, I think that's about the best value I see on the fan dual board right now. We didn't do this, but we weren't prepped for this, but what's the worst? What's the worst winter tomorrow? Like what's the worst thing that could happen tomorrow? I mean, I think I was kind of going for that with team Rose. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Rose. I mean, mean think I was kind of going for that with team Rose. Yeah, Rose. I mean, mean Dean or Rose. Dean Bermester winning the PGA would be tough. Yeah. It's good stuff, Randy. I haven't heard that one before. Me and Dean Bermester. Lee Hodges, where does she like 62 and win?
Starting point is 00:44:21 Like, what are we doing? Lee Harvey Hodges. Any other, any other any other pitch you like on non-winner non-winner collection I'm weirdly disincentivized to try to make calls I want I want to like the lone thrill for for tomorrow is gonna come from like the uncertainty of like what's gonna happen I want to be along for that thrill ride you know I know my horses aren't here I had Scotty like none of my pre-tournament calls are looking great right now I just want to enjoy the ride tomorrow
Starting point is 00:44:47 Randy anything we should be looking for on the LPGA. Oh God how long do we have I actually I mean pick wise just specifically pick wise We'll get to the zoo in a little bit. I sent over a couple picks I don't know if Cody has them the two I really like Jennifer cup chill. Okay, she this is a winner without Nelly Cordo play right now. Nelly Cordo has a two shot lead in second place alone is Hannah Green at 11 under Jennifer Cupcho is nine under she was a in the playoff with Rose Zang last year at Liberty National.
Starting point is 00:45:20 This is a course she really likes. She's played three really good rounds of golf controlling the golf ball. I think she. This is a course she really likes. Uh she she's played three really good rounds of golf controlling the golf ball. I think she's only made a couple bogeys. I like the value of Jennifer Cup show plus 1100 winner without Nellie and then the other one I think if you can get Gabby Ruffles at even money plus 100 to top five, she's currently tied for third at ten under. She's playing exceptional golf. Those are two I like from the LPGA tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Randy, our LPGA sharp. That's good stuff. Well, you know what? Let's what? Speaking of LPGA, let's see. Mizuho America is open. Let's give a shout out to Mizuho real quick. Who is Mizuho?
Starting point is 00:45:59 Mizuho is a top global corporate and investment bank, a powerhouse in Japan as a retail bank. And the Americas is now the fastest growing region for Mizuho's institutional banking division. They are also the title sponsor this week of the LPGA event. The Mizuho America is open at Liberty national. This is the only event where top juniors compete alongside 120 LPGA tour players in concurrent tournaments.
Starting point is 00:46:21 And on Saturday and Sunday, the juniors and LPGAs are grouped together. It's a fantastic format. And as Randy just alluded to, Nellie's in the lead and the leaderboard looks stacked. So that is Mizuho. For more information, visit MizuhoAmericas.com and be sure to check out Mizuho America's open tournament coverage tomorrow. Randy, quick LPGA update. What's the big story thus far? Well, it's Nellie. Of course, her five tournament win streak got snapped last week, but she is right back in solo first.
Starting point is 00:46:56 She shot a bogey free 65 today. I mean, as much as on the men's side, we've been talking about Scottie rightfully, relative, relatively speaking, Nellie has been every bit his equal, if not better. A win tomorrow would be six tournaments out of, well, six out of seven and six out of eight on the year for her.
Starting point is 00:47:19 This is the final tournament. They have a week off and then they play the US Women's Open. So she would potentially be going into the US Women's Open having won six out of seven tournaments including the first major of the year. It just is like really, really heady stuff and super impressive with Nellie, obviously deflating not winning last week but to bounce back to grab the solo lead through 54 holes, it just, I mean,
Starting point is 00:47:46 she's doing everything anybody ever wanted to see out of an American superstar or any superstar for that matter. It's a wonderful thing for golf. But I will say, I would be remiss not to shout out Hannah Green. You saw her there. She's 11 under, solo second. There's only one other person that's won multiple times on the LPGA this year and that's Hannah Green. Uh she has won twice. It's a hell of a uh they're playing
Starting point is 00:48:12 together. It's a hell of a final grouping tomorrow. Arguably the the the two best seasons going on the LPGA going head to head at Liberty National. Again, Golf Channel three to 6 PM tomorrow. Um the channel. If the PGA gets boring. Channel. We're gonna get there, Sally. But I just the national again, Golf Channel three to 6 PM tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Um if the PGA gets boring channel, we're going to get there, Sally, but I just want to shout out that's that's as good as it gets on the women's side. It's a bit of a bummer. Obviously, being overshadowed by a men's major. I get it. Um and
Starting point is 00:48:42 then just finally, Gabby Ruffles, you know, we we've touted her. She's a friend of the program. She really is playing good golf. This is a rookie season. She's got herself in contention again. She's three shots back at 10 under, and that's not to discount. You know, I Aka food away. She is having a great season stacks. Top 10s. I mean, I could go down the leaderboard.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Going down the leaderboard. No, no, no, we'll we'll save it. Neil will save it. I won't do that. Alright, well look forward to the final update for me tomorrow. Alright, Sally, I'm going to hit you with a shot and a chaser here. All right. The shot and L you tweet from yesterday, quote, hard to picture anybody, but ESPN being able to
Starting point is 00:49:14 handle this Scotty situation with the depth they have today. Remarkable from the joke from the jump end quote, chaser golf channel PR response a day later, maybe over a day later. Important context, ESPN has exclusive coverage and was scheduled to come on before 8 a.m. Eastern. Golf Channel cannot come on live once play is underway. NLU is working for ESPN this week as remote broadcasters. That is one tweet. I think they responded to four separate tweets with something similar. Solly, it is your move. I mean, my move was a reply I hit him with of just like, again, it was such a confusing response, never mind it being a day later. One, the implication that our
Starting point is 00:49:58 one-week agreement working for Omaha, which is our broadcast is going on ESPN, would require us to praise ESPN for literally wall-to-wall coverage of this breaking news incident. One of their reporters, Jeff Darlington, was the guy that videoed the whole thing, was the one that first came out with the report. He was on the television when I woke up. He was on television for like two straight hours. I watched him drop into Sports Center.
Starting point is 00:50:23 I watched him drop into GetUp. They went commercial free on ESPN Plus for what felt straight hours. I watched him drop into SportsCenter. I watched him drop in to get up. They went like commercial free on ESPN Plus for what felt like hours before play had all started following the whole situation wondering if Scottie Shuffler is going to make it from the jail in time for his tee time, all this stuff. It deserved a shout out for incredible reporting. So I regret nothing by shouting them out. The implication that just because we're working for ESPN this week would buy my words on
Starting point is 00:50:47 that. When it was obvious to everyone that they did a great job with it is one of the many issues I had with the tweet that they sent out to. It's a breaking news story. I was not asking them to break into covering the live golf tournament. That's not what we were talking about. It would, you know, ESPN flexed their previously scheduled programming. This wasn't a scheduled block on SportsCenter and a scheduled block on get up.
Starting point is 00:51:08 They don't ever talk about golf on get up. And like they great line in slack about get up by the way. Prison prison sounded awful. They had get up on in the prison cell and Scotty was in there. Anyways, all that they've showed like ability to flex into this stuff, which golf channels clearly did not show in any way. I don't know what this person who's tweeting at me is saying that they can't go to a live studio in Stanford to break into this story. They can't. They're not allowed to
Starting point is 00:51:35 cover breaking news. They're implying that the golf had started so they couldn't do it. This was hours before the golf had ever started. Again, it didn't really make any sense at all. Not the battle you want to pick when the whole golf world is not seeing eye to eye with you on a lot of issues currently. So yeah, your inability to flex into programming
Starting point is 00:51:54 has been an issue for years and years and years that we've covered in great detail and did not be able to break into a news story to be able to cover it the way ESPN did yesterday was a big deal. It was a very big deal. That's why, that's why we're now referring to as the channel instead of the golf channel.
Starting point is 00:52:09 So I would say this was, uh, which can I, can I real quick? Yeah. I said the same exact things about golf channel on June 6th last year. Like it's not like everything. You know, I was not doing, we were not doing a great job handling all that stuff on, on, you know, live on the air for like three hours. We did not, we were not working for golf channel that week.
Starting point is 00:52:30 That was not important context for that conversation. They did break from their schedule program. They covered it wall to wall. I don't think they went to commercial like four hours that day. And we were happy to give them praise when that happened. Uh, so yeah, when they refused to break into it, this go around again, we're quite concerned, a lot of people are concerned about the budget cuts and what's been going on over there in general and like to not be able to cover that story live without any real explanation as
Starting point is 00:52:51 well. A lot of people had an issue with that. So I have zero problem, zero regret with any comments I made on this issue. So I'm going to chase your chaser. It's three things to me. Initially the lack of coverage is lazy. The tweet, the four tweets is petty, petty as fuck. I want that on the record. And straight up, it's just embarrassing. It's like you're worried about what we're
Starting point is 00:53:14 saying. You know, podcasters, it's like go go do your job, dude. Like what are you what are you talking about? Or if you're not going to cover it, go cover the LPGA, which is on your channel, why don't you go focus on covering that better? So I was pretty pissed off seeing that too. Well, the really, really, really lame part is the ESPN implication here. Sure.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Like we are clearly independent. We're doing something for ESPN this week. That does not change. That was not important context, which is what they kept. And you can, oh, it's last night. I mean, we had a hamster damn section last night where it's like ESPN broadcast has some warts this week. Like they got too many, I think they got too many cooks in the kitchen on the broadcast, like not getting a ton out Duvall and Ogilvy. I thought that was
Starting point is 00:54:02 shady and just totally unnecessary. To come pick a fight like that is a shady and, and, uh, just totally unnecessary. Like to come pick a fight like that is so, it's just so petty, man. It's so petty. Randy, what do you got? Well, I didn't want to jump on the solid. My step under your toes. Did you have other? No, I'm, I'm quite, quite good here.
Starting point is 00:54:17 I was good before this started. They did not need to do this. No, I know. I, and I'll be brief. I have one statement and then I almost have a question for you guys. I'd like to make a statement. I would like to make a statement. I would like to make a statement. I'm actually glad that they're responding to our tweets, like maybe what we're saying and the drum that we're pounding, like maybe somebody will hear it, right? And maybe they'll make more of an effort to broadcast golf on their channel.
Starting point is 00:54:44 So I almost take that as a good thing. My question to you guys, if I'm putting myself in golf channel shoes, all of their, I guess their A-list talent, right, is on site in Louisville. Like, are they not allowed to go to their live from set during, like, that's where I'm a little confused. Like, are they saying they can't get like Brando or Johnson Wagner?
Starting point is 00:55:11 Uh, these guys that have been in Louisville kind of on site, is that what they're saying they can't go to? Like I understand they're not allowed to show golf shots, but their tweet said, well, they cannot come on live once play is underway and play didn't start for until after 9 a.m. I think so If that's the case and they could have come on to cover the story again, they're there their response makes zero sense In any of this I get there's some of that like you can't It once play has started like they can't do their live from desk or any of their coverage
Starting point is 00:55:43 I get that but that was also not the case. Like they're using that as an excuse that the golf was not going on at this time. I mean, I guess what you're looking for- But it truly is like you are the golf channel and this will be the biggest story in golf this year. And for you not to, like it just doesn't add up. Like it doesn't explain the Stanford party. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:03 You know, there's, you know, it's a massive conglomerate that you know, you got to have somebody available to be able to speak on this in a heartbeat. I know that's hard. It's easier said than done. But like we're hours into this is when I was when we were pointing this out, I'm like, yo, they're not even like they're not even trying here. And then the response comes over four hours later over a day later. It's like, well, what do you do? Why are you doing that? Like what, what the, it's just like, I don't know, unprofessional. Like it's just a lot of things. It's just bizarre.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Yeah, it's a little low rent. It just feeds into the budget cut stuff, right? Like it's just like, what are, what are we doing? And I'm sorry, like, I'm sorry, you're mad that we're being critical, but like, again, it's, it's kind of, it's honest, number one. And two, it's just like, we just want it to be better. Like we know you can do better too. Like last year is a perfect example. We're know you're capable of it. Like a ride for Rich Lerner. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:56:56 I would love to see him holding court on this, this topic. This was, this is what they call the Streisand effect. They've now drawn more attention to the fact that they did not cut it yesterday. Case study. This is a business school case study right here. All right, guys, let's get back to let's go down the leaderboard a little bit. Solly, I'll let you cook a little bit. TC is not here tonight.
Starting point is 00:57:18 He's recharging the batteries. He's in the bullpen, so we'll bring him in tomorrow. But anybody stick out as we get off that first page? I'm not the biggest down the leaderboard guy. We haven't talked a lot of JT, had a great hole out there. Kind of cool moment for him and good interview afterwards. Just kind of driving home the Kentucky tie in. I do believe we're visiting Valhalla for the last time in this championship and a major championship.
Starting point is 00:57:46 So it is cool to forget to get that experience of, uh, of playing a PGA there. But, um, man, honestly, it's hard to do this without feeling a little, getting a little bit of hamster dam as well. And CBS, it felt like they kind of lost the plot at several times of the course of the day. And I don't know. Uh, it's hard to kind of give, give rundowns on a lot of these guys rounds cause it felt very haphazard. But would you have any other, anything else to say about Scotty? I mean, like Randy, you said up top kind of the story of the day.
Starting point is 00:58:10 I mean, it's, I guess it's pretty straightforward. Homeboy didn't play well. I, it's honestly stunning to watch him totally go backwards on a golf course that was queued up to just be taken advantage of. I think the scoring average today in round three was 69 and a half, which was the lowest like by two by multiple shots. I know the club pros are no longer in the field and the guys that aren't playing well are no longer playing this weekend. But that was honestly shocking. I mean, he had zero, he had absolutely nothing,
Starting point is 00:58:36 just did not have the same look on his face today. And we literally literally have not seen that all year, all year long, not for one single round. Have we seen anything like that from him? And that was that all year long. Not for one single round have we seen anything like that from him and that was quite shocking. I got just a couple, Neil, if I may. Please. I was disappointed speaking to Scotty. I was a little disappointed in Amanda, the post-round interview.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Scotty said he just was off his routine today. We all know Ted Scott was gone. I wish you would have asked him a follow up on, Hey, is that just a matter of Ted Scott not being here? She did allude to like, you know, it was a letdown from adrenaline and just like post traumatic, honestly. But I wish you would have kind of followed up a little bit more on Scotty just to understand what exactly about today and being off, he felt led to his poor play. And the only other like real shout out, Poosh Daddy, I didn't see any of them today.
Starting point is 00:59:40 And I'm gonna, you guys wanna hear me butcher a name. Is it Rio Hisa Sunni? I'm sure that's not right. We'll go with it. He is not right and I also don't know what's right. Well he's in a battle now for low Japanese which seems like a big deal and what I was saying Mr. Pooch said his his outfit today was like spectacular so if if anybody did see that, maybe they can let us know in the comments. Well, that kind of feeds into me. I was disappointed in Hideki today. Chut 70 felt like it was kind of primed for him to do some things and maybe get into the, into the hunt, into that first page of the leaderboard. Tom Kim three under,
Starting point is 01:00:22 you know, if he's generational, I'm, I'm might be expecting a little bit more, but he's T 19 right now, uh, going down the board, hos coin is T 29. So you know, I, I get it. Trying to get it early on that, on that, uh, meme coin was not a great call by me. So for the record on Tom Kim, I have not been quoted to say he's generational. I've made fun of the fact that he is a global superstar as noted in full swing, but I am a superstar. I'm a Tom Kim stand. I will continue to ride for last year's
Starting point is 01:00:50 open championship runner up. I also felt like it was gonna be a big week for Jason Day. He stuck in neutral a little bit. 69 today, he's at six under. And then I would give a shout out to Zach Blair, friend of the program. He had a great finish to the day when we were on air on ESPN Plus plus birdied his last
Starting point is 01:01:06 Second to last hole and then went right back out and shot 68. So he's t29 at minus 6 And one other let's see. I had one other note. I wanted to call out Yeah, we got a note Randy this for you One of the club pros Braden Shattuck to teaching pro at Rolling Green, which I believe is Tom Coyne's home course. I think it's a different Rolling Green. Okay, well, that's an honest mistake then, but he's a pro at a Rolling Green course,
Starting point is 01:01:34 and he's playing really well, and coming back from a car accident in 2019, but qualified here and playing well, he's at four under as one of the club pros in the field. So he's looking at low pro, Randy. I also might be wrong, because he's from four under as well. So my club pros in the field. So he's looking at low, low pro Randy. I also might be wrong because he's from Philadelphia, I believe. So I think it was the right role. Sorry. I'm gonna send that may a couple back your way, sir.
Starting point is 01:01:53 I will double may a couple for yeah. Trying to correct you there. That's my bet. And he nearly he's got a six shot lead on my guy. Uh, Jeremy Wells for low club pro tomorrow. So if we're going to celebrate, Brockie, I hope, I hope we get, you know, some love for, for, uh, I'll see you guys next time. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye get the juice out. This is a choice we're making. Does it feel like to you guys that CBS during major weeks
Starting point is 01:02:28 kind of goes a little bit backwards into some of their old stuff? I feel like they've honestly and truly advanced really hard on their PGA tour stuff. And then majors can sometimes kind of feel like the same thing. The CBS PGA of America contract, if you remember Keyiwa, that was a commercial disaster. And this today felt like a big damn commercial load.
Starting point is 01:02:47 It really did. It I struggled with today. I hope tomorrow's better. I didn't show commercials and you said you lost some of the golf. Maybe I was focused on like writing stuff down, but I felt like I had the plot all day. You said something on our Slack earlier though that sometimes it feels like in a big week like this, where maybe more casual fans are watching, that they're trying to cater maybe to your aunt, my mother. Let's kind of not dumb it down, but let's give some Wikipedia stuff to get the whole audience caught up, which I can understand that, but
Starting point is 01:03:22 it's not as enjoyable for us, probably. I think we have a cut in here. Sarge has some, some, a report or a tweet here from, looks like Todd Lewis, sorry, I'm looking on a very small screen, not my TV. I spoke with Scotty Sheff after shooting 73 in round three of the PGA Championship. He said, I talked to my lawyer on the phone to try to process what really happened. I don't think it hit me until this morning what actually transpired yesterday. He was trying really hard in his post round not to make an excuse for today. It's like, yeah, yeah, dude, I think you're kind of pretty justified with whatever kind of excuse you want to want to roll with here. So listen, assaults, felonies, that's tough. That's, that's a tough one to kind of get the, when you go read the definition of what you're, what you're looking at. That sucks. That really sucks, Randy. It's
Starting point is 01:04:07 unlucky. Yeah. How about, you know, if, well, maybe tomorrow. No, nevermind. We can talk about it. He's going to stash it. Sorry, that's bad podcasting. Withholding deets on people. All right, let's get to our final segment. Cody, let's queue up the Did You See This? And then we'll make our final win predictions and a little housekeeping. So, Sal, you go first. Did you see this? Yeah, just updating people. We talked about it
Starting point is 01:04:37 on Thursday's show. Just put a few people posted about the 13th hole and how things are transpiring. We're currently at 89% green regulation rate for the fantastic par 4 13th hole. Nobody trying to drive the green, everybody hitting a layup and a wedge onto the green. Couldn't quite count how many balls have gone into the water just yet, but it was the 14th easiest hole or 14th hardest hole averaging 3.7 shots today. But one of the silliest golf holes I've ever seen in a major championship, just a complete, complete lack of design or intrigue to that golf hole, other than just being a postcard cut out of the
Starting point is 01:05:13 limestone. And I just 89% is outrageous for the field to be hitting a green regulation. It's it's for not for a non par five especially. Okay, well, let me ask you guys this because I saw a comment in the live chat before we got started. It was like, some folks in the audience feel like it's okay. Like when St. Andrews in the wind doesn't blow and they go 19 under or, you know, Augusta, when it's when it's not firm and fast, that's okay. But it's not okay here. Like what, what is it? Is it the low? It's not the low scores is not the issue, but there is an issue with the course for
Starting point is 01:05:45 you guys. So so walk me through that from that perspective. To start with that, Neil, I have to we have to be willing to like point out and acknowledge the difference in like the old course, like the oldest golf course out there and like the you know, a true one of one course, like they only they go to that golf course because of its place in history, right? It is an incredible golf course, and technology has completely passed that place by so many times over, even with moving the tee boxes to where they are.
Starting point is 01:06:13 So there's still so much intrigue in playing the ball on the ground, and the design of those golf holes is a template that is used all over the world to challenge golfers. The wind blows out there. Typically in July, it doesn't blow as strong and we did not get windy conditions last year at the old course.
Starting point is 01:06:28 And at the length that these guys hit the ball now, like those holes are a total joke. So many of the design features of that course. Rainey's made the point before, like they shouldn't take the open to the old course anymore, like says that out of love. And like, there's a case for that, honestly, because it just becomes a turkey shoot. But I think the jig was up when they had to build a T-backs literally off of the
Starting point is 01:06:47 property of the old courts. Yeah. That should have been like, guys, we're done here. And we're talking about like one of the world's great golf courses, right? Like potentially having low scores for pros now, right? Valhalla is not one of the world's great golf courses. It is, it would probably be middle of the road on the PGA tour. I think, I mean, this, this reminds me a way more of a PGA Tour golf course than it does a
Starting point is 01:07:08 major championship venue. I've honestly got to like revisit some of my previous thoughts on like width of fairways. Like I've not been a fan of just narrow fairways, thick, rough, but like I honestly, with how soft it is playing out there, I think the fairways are playing too wide. When the angles don't matter, when there's no strategy to hitting to a certain side of the fairway with is it can be a bad thing in professional golf, like there's just no consequence on so many of these tee shots. And there just seems to be way, way, way, way too many golf shots on
Starting point is 01:07:37 this course with a complete lack of consequence. Just JTB, I mean, I know he hold the shot, I'm not referencing that it was an easy shot to hold, but missing so long left on 14 on like a good major championship venue, that would be bogey. Like that you would not be able to stop a ball near that hole. And he was, that ball didn't go in, it was gonna stop near the hole.
Starting point is 01:07:54 There's examples of that all over this golf course where the proper punishment for misses and the exacting nature that it's usually required in major championships is not on display at Valhalla. Look, you don't care about that? I'm not gonna try to convince you that you should. For me, that's what required in major championships is not on display at Valhalla. Look, you don't care about that. I'm not gonna try to convince you that you should. For me, that's what I love about majors is watching like the guys go through a mogul skiing test of like you have to dodge this obstacle, you got to
Starting point is 01:08:14 play a delicate shot here, you got to do this. And I'm watching dudes miss all over this golf course and get away with it on repeat. And there's just no intrigue to it. Like it's it's it's completely in line with what we see every week on the PGA Tour. We get two venues a year, like there's no bad venues on the Open Championship Rota, like I'll take them all, like those are great.
Starting point is 01:08:34 So we get two venues a year for the US Open and the PGA Championship, they're on rotations for major championships, right? The bar to clear should be really, really, really freaking high, really high. And look, does it check a lot of boxes of infrastructure and fan environment and like the Kentucky fans having a great time and the great local support
Starting point is 01:08:52 and all that stuff? It absolutely does, sure. We're gonna get the bunch leading board that, you know, a very mediocre golf course is gonna probably give you and there's gonna be some excitement tomorrow. But that doesn't mean that it's, for me, it definitely does not clear the hurdle of a worthy major championship venue golf course. It just the level you know, sure
Starting point is 01:09:09 you can say it's soft, it got rain. It's like, well, this place is not going to play great when it's fast and firm, it played better, but it's not like it's designed to play fast and firm. We're not waiting for the wind to blow in Kentucky. Like that's not a real thing that you can reasonably expect for May. And that's so opposite of the spectrum of like Lynx Golf and the nature of Lynx Golf versus like the heaviest Parkland Golf imaginable. So it falls woefully short.
Starting point is 01:09:33 It really has frustrated me this week. I've tried my best not to let it seep into all of our shows, but it's been really, really frustrating and I don't know where you net out on that, Randy. Neil, I'd be curious your thoughts as well, but I will not be sad to say so long to Valhalla tomorrow. God, the defense or the prosecution rest. Randy, we'll go to you. I know, I don't have much to add except I can only tell you what my own experience is.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Sully, I think that was beautifully said. And for how good this leaderboard is for how bunched it is like my overriding thought a lot of the afternoon was like man this is just kind of like boring golf like I'm I'm watching guys hit good shots but I'm there's zero appreciation for it because the level of difficulty is just not there. And that's not the same as low scores, right? Like that's par, that's relation to par. And we've always said that it's just the actual like consequence of the golf shots is not there. And we see, so it's not that there are a million under it's,
Starting point is 01:10:39 it's, it's more on a shot. Like shots in a vacuum is, is more the concern. Like there's no downside on a miss. Sorry, Brandy, I know this is your spot. No, no, no, no, no. You can explain it more better than I can. A quick example again of like think of the 11th hole at Shinnecock, I know it's a totally different design
Starting point is 01:10:59 to the 14th hole at Valhalla. It's par three, right? Up on the hill. A short par three, but imagine imagine going long left of that green. And again, think of the shot that JT hit on 14 today, and imagine going long left of Shinoclock. Imagine how fucked you're gonna be. At Pinehurst, here in a couple weeks,
Starting point is 01:11:15 if you go bomb one long left in a spot, you're gonna be so completely boned. The consequences of the contouring, and the bunkering, the slopes, and the speed of the greens, it's all contributes to what should be a strategy of how to pick the place apart, when to take on risk, is it worth getting after this pin if five yards left of it,
Starting point is 01:11:34 I'm gonna be in a bunker that I can't get up and down with. That to me identifies a worthy major champion better than a turkey shoot does. I mean, we've seen turkey shoots. I think there should be a different category for major championships. We see it every week. Yeah, I know. God, Cody, run the run the breaking news banner Randy and Sally continue to agree it's it's it's true. Well, we are
Starting point is 01:11:57 building a coalition here. Well, Randy, but Randy will where we'll disagree is like Randy just wants to see hard for hard sake. Like I think there's a balanced line, which like. Yeah, because we get too many of these weeks. I'm more of a hard line. It's hard for hard sake. Randy's more of a hard line than solid. That's good stuff.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Yeah, I'll agree with you on that. They're like hard for the sake of hard is better than this. Like I think you're you can get a little on the extreme. Like again, like a politician that I'm sure I like. I like I like more variability and just luck in it and I think that's where Sally and I probably part ways.
Starting point is 01:12:31 I I have no qualms with like, oh yeah, you hit a good shot, but guess what? Like it just found that ridge and it ended up in a in a terrible spot like sorry. That's where I think we divert a like there's no, I don't see a lot of guys golfing their ball if that makes sense and I don't really have the vocabulary to explain it more than that. I don't know. And one more thing on this like if
Starting point is 01:13:12 you listen to the show a lot and you think oh these guys say that about every golf course it's like you know why? Because they need to fucking roll the ball back right? Like that introduces so many of these problems. Like there should be with a golf ball that didn't go as far and would spin more, the consequence of these misses would be should be with a golf ball that didn't go as far and would spin more. The consequence of these misses would be more exaggerated just within that part, right? It wouldn't be so dependent on the perfect conditions, perfect design, perfect setup of a golf tournament, which just doesn't happen in the net for where you can play. It doesn't happen enough, right?
Starting point is 01:13:39 Like that is what contributes to this always being a level of conversation is like the equipment and technology is contributing so greatly to a boring style play. It is on full display this week. All right, well, Randy, I want to let you. I got one thing real quick. I agree with everything that you guys are saying there. And I thought long and hard about this last night. I think Zoysia is the issue here because honestly, tease it up on Ben Grass Green's. It's like playing off AstroTurf. I don't
Starting point is 01:14:05 know what direction you guys thought I was going to go there. But I want to look at these future sites to Sally of this list. We're in Louisville this year. And of course, we're going to quail, aeronomic, then we're going to get first look for him at PJ Frisco. Did any of these places kind of fancy? You know, do you like this? Quail last week was better than this. Like again, I think I put, when we ranked our PGA championship courses,
Starting point is 01:14:28 I think I put Valhalla ahead of Quail just cause we see Quail a lot. I would flip those immediately right now. But then it falls out of your category, Solly of like, there's only two times a year where we get to see a new course. I agree with that. Frustrated when it's like, oh great,
Starting point is 01:14:41 we're gonna go to Quail. So that immediately kind of makes me, like golf course, I don't really have a huge issue with it. I just see it every year. So I don't really want the major to go there. This is like when Randy has to go to a shared plates restaurant. Like I'm choosing from what's in front of me, right?
Starting point is 01:14:54 This is not what I would put on my menu here, but if I'm choosing from what's in front of me, like at least Quail showed an ability to be, you know, very firm and fast. And the new greens at Quail shifted me a little bit last week, I'd not seen Quail play that well. And I think we can expect better, a better tournament at Quail Hollow next year than we've gotten this year at Valhalla. That would be my expectations.
Starting point is 01:15:14 But, Ironament can fall in kind of the same, I mean, it's a classically designed golf course, but I just don't know if tech if it holds up to technology, it did not at the BMW championship, I don't know what they're going to be able to do that other than make it obnoxiously narrow and with thick rough. So PJ Frisco, I'm very keen to see I, I didn't like love playing that golf course, but I'm, again, these guys hit it so freaking fine. I was like, Oh, this place is really hard, but they tend to make courses I think really are
Starting point is 01:15:42 really hard to make look very easy very quickly I haven't seen the new Olympic Club new congressional That'll be with a rollback golf ball and maybe things will look different by then but no There's not a lot that inspires me on the on the PGA Championship board going forward. God when we start thinking about 2030 I just I don't want to think that far ahead Randy. What's your did you see this? Let's let's Let's get one on this one. It's in the same vein. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:08 You know, if anybody missed it, Shane Lowry shot 62. And I just think it's worthwhile to point out, you know, this was such a historically significant number for really most of our first. Yeah, I mean, sorry, we grew up learning golf and the significance of 63 really. The graphic here, so between 1958 and 2022, there was one round of 62 in any of the majors. Since the beginning of 2022, there was one
Starting point is 01:17:06 I feel this way a lot where like long drives and stuffing wedges and making birdies. If that appeals to 70% of the population, I just have to acknowledge like that does not do it for me at all as a golf spectator and it just sucks because I mean, how much clearer could it be 46 Four sixty-twos in the last four major championships? Like, what are we doing? The athletes like Shane Lowry. So the ball rollback, the equipment rollback cannot get here soon enough for my opinion.
Starting point is 01:17:38 I just think this type of golf is boring. And if that makes me different from the vast majority of people, then I'll accept that. But to me, it was like, I didn't have a ton of fun watching today. Like there was some interesting stuff, but it wasn't just like, holy shit, the golf. Like it doesn't do that for me, which sucks.
Starting point is 01:17:59 You guys are so old and grumpy. I can't believe you have these tapes. Which I know it comes off like that, but it's like, it's also what I feel. So I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna pretend to feel something that I thought. Bob Chris, get off my lawn, Randy. There's a balance to this stuff though, Neil, and like, I know, I'm just, I'm giving you shit.
Starting point is 01:18:13 No, no, I'm pretty close to where you guys are. Karen, Karen in the comments, I'm not making fun of Karen, I had a good comment of saying, of saying average viewer wants to see birdies. Not wrong, like not wrong at all. My point is, or my viewpoint is like we're we're we flooded the market with it, right? Like there's so many birdies is not the special nature of a well earned birdie is you almost muted to it, right? Like it just, it's too easy to make a birdie kind of
Starting point is 01:18:39 the same way like I look at like single season home run record in baseball, like the top six seasons in, in, in baseball for single season home runs, 2001, 98, 98, 99, 2001, 99, like all within the same period of like when a home run just wasn't that special in that time period. It wasn't that amazing to see baseball. The shine wears off once it becomes it's like Bryson at Bay Hill when he was trying to drive the green on what number five, it was like, that was awesome. But like if 30 guys are doing that, like I think it would become less awesome, like very quickly.
Starting point is 01:19:10 And baseball is constantly tweaking their equipment to like regulate and normalize these factors, right? To make it so it's a hard earned thing to get a home run. And you know, there's not a scarcity of home runs and golf has refused to do that for. and there's not a scarcity of home runs. And golf has refused to do that for- So, and on that note, I have a point. I enjoyed watching the golf today, but I think if we're going to hold up majors, the PGA is special because of the tradition and the history. So, if you want to uphold that special and you want to have generational comparisons, I agree with you. You do probably have to like whether it's the athletes or the equipment like something's out of whack We you know, you got to kind of bring it back so that you can compare Errors a little bit better and and you know, it's nice to hear like I don't watch baseball as much you guys
Starting point is 01:19:54 So it's nice to hear that at least they're thinking about that over there Anything else I feels like this is cathartic for both of you So like I know and to Karen's point, like I acknowledge that's what the average viewer, but what kind of is a bummer is the average viewers are tuning in four times a year. And for folks like us that are watching a shit ton of golf, it just, it rubs me a little bit the wrong way
Starting point is 01:20:20 that everything's being catered to the people that are like just popping in, rather than like, let's make this the sport you know dynamic to I don't know I guess it sounds silly when it's like let's make it what I want it to be but I just feel like what it has been though that you kind of have history a little bit so like I just feel like shot shaping and you know the the common cliche is like golf is most interesting when the ball is on the ground. And how many times, Neil, this week, can you remember like a ball bouncing or like, oh my God, like this guy has to worry about on the ground is, is the ball or a flop shot
Starting point is 01:20:56 rolling towards the hole. Like this guy has to worry about his run out or anything like it's just like, it just is kind of boring to me. Well, and that's where the one defense I'll give Valhalla and the PJ of America is like this was decided to go to Valhalla, I would assume before they switched this back to being in May yet same time. I mean, thunderstorms in 2014 and it's gonna be when it in August. Yeah, it was gonna be either way. It's like, that's why you shouldn't pick this venue. Like,
Starting point is 01:21:21 it just keeps coming back to this like the course is not worthy of it. It's just flat out not. I'm sorry. Well, all that said, I don't think you guys, I think you both make a very candid, valid, and sincere argument. I am very excited about the golf tomorrow,
Starting point is 01:21:37 because I'm willing to suspend my, Maybe a corpus. No, I mean, I'm just fired up about the leaderboard. And I think the history for me kind of carries it like the it's kind of in the context of the major conversation that still gets me jacked up and and if they're gonna go have a shootout, let's see who wins the shootout like the play the course in front of you if it was up to me, I would
Starting point is 01:21:57 play it on a different course as well. But I'm not going to let that get in the way of no enjoyment of it. No, but I think where I'll draw the line as like, this is gonna happen tomorrow, people are gonna be quick to credit Valhalla with a like a good leaderboard and exciting finish, which like 18 is an exciting finishing hole. I'll give you that but like, almost any golf course is probably going to give you an exciting finish, right? I mean, for as much shit as LACC, LACC
Starting point is 01:22:22 took on like that was a close exciting finish, right? So I just will just won't, and I think I said this in 2014, I was like, oh, you got a credible haul for giving you exciting finish. No, you don't. You put the best players in the world together. You could put this field at Jack's Beach and I'm confident we would have a good Sunday leaderboard. God, TC's comment about it feeling like a member guest is so sick. It's starting to feel more and more true. But I am fired up about the atmosphere and I feel like it's a good, you know, fan view and got a bit of a stadium vibe on a
Starting point is 01:22:49 lot of those holes. So a lot to look forward to tomorrow. Cody, I'm gonna wrap us up with my with my two Did you see this? I think I was late to the party. The first one is is I just want to reiterate just how crazy the Scotty stuff is. This kind of speaks to me. There's a lot going on in this photo. All right. It's two guys with Scotty's mugshot on t-shirts after his round. Somebody was able to get shirts made as the merch are like, I guess they're selling them in the parking lot. I got, you know, nabbed by the cops at the waste
Starting point is 01:23:19 management for trying to sell t-shirts in the parking lot. I'm guessing the parking lots are so far away that the cops are busy closer to the entrance. It seems like that's the case as based on yesterday. So we got these two guys giving them a high five. And then, I mean, Randy, what's happening to the youth? We got this kid wearing a, is that a wood hat? I believe like big.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Yeah, wood, what would wood be? I don't know what wood is, but like kids looking for an autograph, but like we're corrupting the youth with these, uh, with these big letter hats. We, this must stop the Hala hats, the wood hats. They're not good. They're selling out of them at places. I can't believe people are buying these, but we must stop the, uh, the big letter hats. And so that's, that's a, that's why did you see this? Do you like the Scotty in the orange jumpsuit or the Scotty is, is that like prison Mike? Is that an office thing? I think so. Yeah. Uh, I think that the mugshot one is, is better.
Starting point is 01:24:14 If you're going to go, you go all the way. Uh, the guy on the left, his, his face looks like, I don't know. I don't know if he thinks it's funny, man. I don't know. Did he see me? I don't know. I'm going to kind of stick my hand out here. I'm going to make him make a decision. Yeah. I don't know if he thinks it's funny, man. I don't know. Did he see me? I don't know, man. I'm gonna kinda stick my hand out here. I'm gonna make him make a decision. Yeah, I don't know, man. We've been waiting here for an hour. Oh no, he's walking by.
Starting point is 01:24:33 He's not looking. This is a thousand words, this picture. And the second one, I just, I had to bring this one in for Tron. I know how much he loves Jameis. Jameis, Jameis Winston randomly in the middle of the crowd today on the second hole. I know how much he loves James James James Winston Randomly in the middle of the crowd today on the second hole the guy can't get enough Louisville I mean James just out there enjoying some golf fellas Randy. I know you love this. I know I'm a big James guy I'm like is James a golf?
Starting point is 01:24:59 Fanatic like I didn't know that I didn't know we play We should do like a film room video with them. That would be amazing. That would be content gold. Jabu wins, outwatches some golf at Valhalla at Odin's place. That's exciting stuff. Alright, who's going to win? Final answer. Solly, you're up. Morikawa.
Starting point is 01:25:22 I think so. God, Neil, you almost sold me. You almost sold me on Xander. I'm going to take more Cabba as well. All right. I'm going with Alexander. Weird Alexander Shoffley. My final pick. A few housekeeping items. Moving off Rory to get to add.
Starting point is 01:25:38 I know. I'm a tortured. So I'm looking for love in all the hopeless places. Time is a flat circle. I want to get hurt. Time is a flat circle. I want to get hurt. All right, housekeeping. We will be back on ESPN plus tomorrow from 9 a.m. Eastern to 11 a.m. Eastern.
Starting point is 01:25:53 Sally might actually get to call some golf. What a curve ball this morning. We had almost no golf to talk about as we're going on the air for, for two hours. Basically got the message. Yeah, just do your podcast. I was like, okay, we'll wing it. It was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:26:06 It was a lot of fun. Running trivia, PGA Championship trivia. We pulled out all the stops this morning. So we moved the runner over. We'll be back tomorrow. And then, yeah, just shout out, go check out the Pro Shop. You're sticking around this long. Go check out, we got some good gear in there.
Starting point is 01:26:20 Store.nolayingup.com. We appreciate the support. And then KVV might be hopping on a plane tonight, tomorrow morning. I would look out for a KVV gamer tomorrow night. I don't know what he's cooking up, but, uh, I haven't heard much from him today. I feel like he might be, uh, stewing on some stuff. So he'll be on the grounds tomorrow. Excited to, to kind of read his recap. Uh, solid. I miss anything? I think that's about it. I think we might have DJ Pye back for us with us tomorrow on ESPN Plus as well. He just got back from
Starting point is 01:26:50 vacation. Coming in hot. He, he hated Valhalla so much that he actually left the country. Yeah, it's coming back from Odin's, Odin's home country coming back to watch golf at Odin's place. No, that's about it, Except for maybe look for a response from, uh, the channel PR, uh, as well. Uh, I haven't seen if they've responded to my tweet yet, but maybe keep your eyes peeled for that. So speaking to a good press for, I just want to shout out our guy here.
Starting point is 01:27:17 He, unfortunately, I think the Yips have now transitioned into the shanks. Uh, tough to see for Johnson out there, but is this on live TV or is this just a picture? No, it was it was live. This is a screen grab from smiley. But yeah, no, man. He's grinding though. He's out there. He's fighting it. We're gonna leave him in the in the Hall of the slain warriors. There's there's no way he doesn't win an Emmy this year. Like Johnson Wagner is has to be the golf reporter of the year. Or it could be a different name and he'll receive it anyway.
Starting point is 01:27:49 You never know what those sports Emmys. The channel needs to protect him at all costs. Amen. All right, thanks for joining us. And we will be back tomorrow, same time probably here on the live show for our Sunday recap. Cheers and crack on.
Starting point is 01:28:04 Cheers. Bangleang.

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