No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 840 - Sunday PGA Championship Live Show

Episode Date: May 20, 2024

Xander Schauffele is your 2024 PGA Champion at Valhalla. He edges out Bryson DeChambeau by 1 with a birdie on his 72 hole to win his first Major Championship. We run down all of the leaderboard, news and notes, KVV calls in from on site, D.J. returns and close it out with some funny moments of the week. Presented by High Noon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club. Be the right club today. Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the No Laying Up Live show presented as always by by high noon. Neil here, May 19th, Sunday recap of the 2024 PGA championship week. Xander Schauffele is your wire to wire winner at Valhalla elsewhere in the golf world. Nelly quarter wins at the Mizuho. America's open by one over Hannah Green

at Liberty national, her sixth win in seven starts. Harry Higgs wins the first playoff hole at the Advent Health Championship to take the corn fairy event. I believe that was in Kansas City. TC, is that correct? It was, Kansas City, Missouri. Love that.

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And I don't know why I'm kind of beaming. I'm weirdly, weirdly happy for Xander. And I don't think that's going to be a popular take, but I have to trust my gut here. I'm excited to talk about it. I love it. We've got Randy calling in from Denver. Big man, how we feeling? We're good.

We're here tonight so we don't get fined. Hell yes. And TC, he got a little rest last night. We're bringing him back in. He sounds like he went to the global home for a fantastic dinner last night. TC, how you feeling? I'm feeling good. It's been a really bad day. I poured an entire cup of coffee on my computer today and had to go get a new one. So, but great, great dinner last night at TPC Sawgrass. I gotta, I gotta commend them. It's one of the best duck dishes I've ever had. So, well, before we get into all the glorious madness today and this week, I do want to give a shout out to Titleist. Our show is also brought to you by Titleist and the new Vokey Design SM10 wedges. Every week on the PGA Tour, more of the world's best players

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Who wants to go first? You can't spring this on us. All right. Well then we'll go ahead. I'll hit you with a summary. Uh, I'll, I'll, I this on us. I can't? All right. Well, then we'll do it after. Go ahead. No, it's all I want to do. I'll hit you with a summary. I'll do it. So simultaneously dull and exciting. I love that.

I think that's very fair. TC, Randy, why don't you guys think on it? I'll give you a quick summary of the day's events, and maybe that'll help spark some. I got one, Neil. I got one. Hit me. Plus grand garçon Alexander. Very big boy Alexander. You know I've been doing your Duolingo Randy. Yeah I've been I've I've shit on him. I've called him a little boy but not today.

I'm I'm gonna own that right from the top. We can get into it later. Uh, I tipped my hat to Xander. He got it done today. That's so big of you. That's so big of you. Gosh, I got one. X gave it to me. There we go. See, I knew you guys would come up with something and everybody else gave it to X.

Fair enough. All right. Quick summary. I'm going to try to hit this like Chris Berman. We start the day with Xander and Colin tied for the lead at minus 15. So you said he was wire, which he really wasn't true wire to wire. I would say it was, well, okay, fair enough.

But you're already interrupting my flow here, TC. Come on, Xander fires a bogey free 31 on the front to get to 19 under while Colin turns into Greg Parman and stays at minus 15 going out with nine straight pars. That will be a theme through the back nine as well. The Hovland D'Chambeau group charges through the front nine and both shoot a front nine 32 Bryson hits one of the shots of the week with a six iron from two 43 into the 10th green walks away with a two putt birdie and a tie for

second. Hovland birdies 12 to get to 18 under while Xander makes a sloppy bogey on 10 trying to hit the fairway wood on a second shot That was his second easiest hole as well. So he walks off there with bogey. He bounces back with birdies on 11 and 12 Meanwhile team Rose is climbing the leaderboard to get to minus 16 something We were monitoring at the time but turned out to be not a threat. Let's zoom past the team Rose updates here I just I just got I got my notes going down here. So what it pours in a birdie at fun Tasia, which is the 13th hole to get to 19 under and take the solo lead with Bryson answering to get to 18 under.

And then Xander bounces back from the bogey. Like I said, he gets back to 19 under. So we're tied Xander birdies 12th to get to 20 under while Vic misses a good birdie look on 15 Bryson hangs tough with a good up and down on 14 and 15 to stay within striking distance at 18 under Xander plays it safe on 13 with a wedge in hand uh I don't know if that was he kind of missed it left there he seemed to have the lefts in play um throughout the back nine. But he misses 13, so he comfy four. Bryson makes a fantastic four call and gets a great bounce out of the trees.

He goes on to stuff the pinata and birdie 16. Xander makes a solid but conservative pars on 14, 15 and 16, while Bryson and Victor par 17, with Vic missing a good chance at birdie. So we have Xander out front at minus 20 and Vic and Bryson tied at 19 under. Bryson puts it in the left fairway bunker on 18. Vic's drive comes to rest in the first cut. Victor hits it right of the green, Bryson on the left. Bryson gets up and down, just wishes a birdie in, uh, to get to 20 under. God, Vic goes on to three put 18 to drop to 18 under where he finishes.

Bogie three 64 for the medium golfer. Uh, great round of golf for Bryson. Uh, back on 17 Xander catches the fairway bunker skies and nine, nine, right of the green and has a simple up and down for par. Sally, I know, I know you love that. I felt hollow. No way. Uh, that's why I figured I get a, I know you love that. I fell hollow, no way.

I figured I'd get a rise out of you on that one. So he arrives at the 18th tee, tied with Bryson at 20 under. T-shot comes up just short of the fairway bunker, but his feet are in the bunker with the ball above his feet. He hits a four iron, great shot there, just left to the green, chips up to about six feet, makes the putt. At first I thought it was, you know, not dead center, but it didn't look that dramatic.

You saw the replay, putt went about 270 degrees, 270 degrees around the hole. Does it matter? Xander Schauffele is your 2024 PGA champion, finishing at minus 21 and setting the record for lowest four round total in a major. Bryson is second at 20 under. Vic is third at 18 under. Thomas Detry and Colin Morikawa are T4 at minus 15. Shane Lowry and Justin Rose finished T6 at

minus 14. Big Bob McIntyre, Scotty Schaeffler, Justin Thomas, and Billy Horschel, T10 at minus 13. So gentlemen, let's go around the horn. T.C., I'll start with you. What does Xander winning? What does this do for you? You can take that any any direction you want, my man. Uh, I'm not going to take it any direction. It does literally nothing for me. It just I feel nothing. I. It just it feels like he won the WGC, NEC, Invitational or whatever the one at Firestone. Like it and I don't mean like I don't think Xander is a bad guy. He won the WGC NEC Invitational or whatever, the one at Firestone.

And I don't mean like, I don't think Xander's a bad guy. Maybe it's a character flaw, he's like best friends with Cantlay, but I've been watching Xander play great golf for the last three, four years. I haven't felt anything at any point during that three or four years. I can pick up off that and then I was I was surprised that I I

did feel something. You know, I don't enjoy rooting watching him fail. Like I don't enjoy watching him that kind of go through the turmoil of all the close calls that he's had. And I feel like I've kind of quietly like, not not like beating my chest, but I've been writing for Xander for a fair amount of the last several years of just like, you know, you've been getting slagging just a little bit too hard. He gets himself in good tension all the time. This is going to happen at

some point. We called it out on Sunday before the week. We called it on Monday. We called it on Wednesday of like, Hey, if it's going to happen, it's probably going to be on a course like this and a setup like this with him playing like this. And he got it done, man. I mean, I have serious, serious issues with Val Hollow that we will wait until the later part of the show. I don't, uh, you know, want to put an asterisk on this win. We said this again on Wednesday. I was serious, serious issues with Valhalla that we will wait until the later part of the show. I don't, you know, want to put an asterisk on this win. We said this again on Wednesday. I was like, dude, this is spread eagle wide open for somebody to go grab their major that would not maybe be able to win one in a harder setup. And he went out and did it, man.

I mean, there were several moments that could have gone a different way. Final round, 65. I mean, that gained over four shots on the field. That was like an elite, slammed the door, final pairing performance in a major with the trophy on the line. He did it. Um, got away with murder in the process. It just makes it feel cheap.

I know it does, but man, he got the trophy and he did it. And, uh, I, I, I'm, I don't know. I'm happy for him, excited for him. And, uh, that, that was a, that was a fun, fun finish. Brandy. Yeah, I actually have to echo a lot of what you said. I listen at the start of the week, I, I was having a good time with the stat, you know, of all the guys in the field, he, him phenol and Ricky had the most top tens and majors without a win.

I enjoyed making jokes. I enjoyed having Xander in those guys' company. But he's not anymore. And he went and got it. He did it from the final group. I know the setup wasn't great. I didn't love the setup. But it was the same for everybody. And he went out and shot 65 and won a major. And I will say, I'm really curious if this is going to unleash him, free him in other majors. That's one of my favorite things, you know, when, when anybody wins their first major, it's like, what's that going to do? This is a guy has put himself as Sally said in contention many times at big tournaments. And if he peels off another one or two in relatively short order, then even though he's

not my favorite golfer, it's going gonna become relevant and impossible for us to ignore. He's asserting himself as one of the best players of his generation. He's not the best player of his generation, but this is a big step, an important step for his career. And I am not gonna shit on the guy. You win a major, no more jokes I can make. He's not Tony, he's not Ricky was this was a job well done today by

Xander. And I'm not shitting on him. I'm just saying it didn't do anything for me. Right? This is how I question term. Yeah, that's fair. I would quickly if I could say also, this was a win for the data, right? This is a win for the math of saying like, dude, put yourself in contention a bunch, like it's gonna fall your way at some point, like it just will. There's a difference in kind of just the one hit wonders that pop up in major, major leader boards and the dudes that like,

yeah, this is like, this is the solving of a math equation. Like you do it seven times, like it's bound to fall your way one time, right? And you're bound to put, deliver the performance that's going to get you the trophy. Felt like literally on Razor's edge on the edge of a cup for a ball to fall in like every one of those has left out for Xander when he's had the moment like for that big putt right. It really did try to but it did not miss the hole. And you know, it happens because there's not a single putt on this entire course that that that

is outside the hole. They're all fucking straight. It's crazy. We're saving the course. Thanks're all fucking straight. It's crazy. We're saving the core stakes. We're saving it. I would say, you saw, you said he slammed the door. I would say he shut the door quietly. Yeah. The door is closed.

And so, you know, he deserves it. Sleeping baby in there, Neil. Sleeping baby. You know, I would say that the door is certainly closed and, you know, he's locked it. It's great, but it was closed. Turn the handle very, very quietly. Uh, what I noticed when he, when he made that, but it was relief.

A lot of times guys win and it's joy, it's excitement. It was, it was total relief to me in his emotions. Another thing that stuck out to me. Uh, it felt like a lot of, and you hear this, it feels like a lot of guys really like Xander on tour. Like a lot of people there to say this, it feels like a lot of guys really like Xander on tour. Like a lot of people there to say congratulations all the way from the green to the scoring tent. And I was like to see that. I feel like you want to root for guys on tour that people

like and we know some of the guys out there. So when they're like, no, Xander's a great guy, I'm happy for him. I really am. I'm very much happy for him. And he did what he had to do coming down the stretch. So, you know, hats off to him. 2024 PGA champion. So I'm going to send this one back to you. What, who do you think let this one get away most from the guys chasing Xander? You know, I don't really know if anyone gave it away. I don't know if I would classify anything as that, but if I had to answer that, I'd say Vic, just because of the looks that he had on the 16th hole, that he did not get to the hole with a good look at it. And on 17, also had a really, really good look at a putt from 10 feet that did not go in. And then 18 had a look as

well to get into what maybe looked like it would have been a playoff. The putt he missed coming back literally meant nothing. He stayed in third place no matter what. But three decent looks on those last few holes. He also had a short birdie putt on four that he either pulled or badly, badly misread. He birdied the next three holes after that and that would have been four in a row.

He was pretty close to delivering the performance but he'll look back on a few putts that either didn't give a great effort or just barely missed as the closest thing I could say to give it away. I wouldn't classify as giving away. This was Zander's. I mean, I don't know if Zander ever went to plus odds on the entire back nine. I think he was, he was odds on being a couple of holes behind them and pretty much in control of things ever since that weird bogey on 10.

TC. Um, yeah, I mean, you know, Vic and Bryce and obviously the, the closest, I Bogey on 10. TC. Yeah, I mean, you know, Vic and Bryce and obviously the closest, I think Colin, to play the first 17 holes in one over and not make a birdie, like that's, you gotta do better than that, man. Especially with how good he was hitting it yesterday. God, I was rooting, I was rooting so hard

for him to par all 18 holes. That'd have been such an indictment on your boy, Randy. Just, just couldn't, couldn't get it. Update, update. Stay tuned for an update on that. Is he still my boy? Oh, wow. Randy's talked to his broker. My team makes his own trades. We're doing some tax loss harvesting. I am selling low again on Colin.

What an abysmal. Yeah. You want to talk about guys that let this get away. Yeah, we're doing some tax loss harvesting. I am selling low again on Colin. What a, what an abysmal. Yeah. You want to talk about guys that let this get away, like on it on a day peruse the final page of the leaderboard, everybody's in red and they're calling is at even par playing out of the last group today. Like that's, it's a big missed opportunity. It's gotta be disappointing on the heels of a poor final round at Augusta. And honestly, I forget who said it last night, or maybe it was on the telecast.

Colin's fourth round scoring average this year, especially of late, has not been good. So I would look squarely at him as the guy that kind of let things get away. Something else I found interesting today was a lot of the like when I was trying to think of like defining moments, a lot of the ones I'm going to remember are Bryson. And and he's not going to win. What do you saw your thoughts on on Bryson today? What do you see out of him? What are we going to see out of him in the future?

It was it was a phrase that we've used a lot this week, but he was totally had his ears pinned back. I mean, that drive on 17 when he was just vibing his face off, he pull hooks one into the trees in 16. Andrew Waterman threw it back into the fairway and he hit just a ridiculous, maybe the most flush golf shot I've ever seen a human hit, probably six iron from 230 or whatever it was. Sick.

And absolutely stuffed it and he pimp stepped it. It was awesome, made the birdie You know disappointing wedge after the crush drive on 17, but it was just on if he would have played 18 more holes today He would have shot 58. I really do think it he would have just absolutely filled it up It's he just got into a complete flow and it was fun to watch It's weird to just feel those kind of that kind of excitement with Bryson hunting somebody down on the leaderboard and hitting really, really exciting golf shots.

You gotta give him a lot of credit, man. I mean, he was top five at Oak Hill last year, top five, or T6, I think, at the Masters this year, and runner up by one shot here in a track meet. Three very different setups over the last five majors. I definitely can call into question some live guys' performances in majors over the last couple of years. But Bryson has been a guy that has completely bucked the trend of, you know, his game was kind of in shambles when he left for live and he showed up on the biggest stages and pulled out and it's entertaining.

It's great for golf. Like you don't even have to like him to just have been entertained by what went down today and what he brings to the table. That's where I'm at. I said it during the Masters. I was like, yes, he's a moron. He's a lunatic, but he's also a showman. I love having him back. I had so much fun watching him, just all of his antics and all of his little... And he seems like genuinely less of a dickhead now too. I don't know what's happened or where the dose of reality or perspective came from but he seems a lot more just self-aware and like a real human being now. So which is

refreshing. And let's not eliminate the idea that that you know that dickhead is still in there, right? He's in a good run right now. It could come back out at any moment. But I do echo that sentiment of he seems pretty comfortable in his own skin. Seems like I was rooting for him today. Yeah. On 18. It was like I was like I almost made the same move he did raising off off the couch, you know, with both arms up and wishing it in one of my least favorite athletes of the last 10 years. And I'm rooting for him over Xander. And I don't, I don't know why I don't know, but it's just,

that's just how I felt. Right. I think TC, I think, I think sports golf, it's all about, you just want people that make you feel something, right? Yeah. And, And further than that, like, it's fun to see guys have a presence in the moment and show like how much this means to them. Like you can't help but kind of be attracted to that as a fan. And I'm with you guys. I give Bryson all the credit for bringing me into that through his presence, through his actions. Solly, I think Bryson's the into that through, through his presence, through his action. Solly, I think Bryson's the guy that like live is probably best suited for, right? He can go over there and he can do the YouTube stuff and he can just be as weird and as himself as he wants to be. And I'm not sure if you can say that about everybody that's made the switch, but

at least for him, it's like, man, he, he seems like he's in a really good place. Yeah, for sure. Well, listen, speaking of feeling things, we'll get a sense of what was on the ground. We're going to bring in our first guest of the night, Cody. We're going to queue up our very own Kevin van Volkenberg, who is on site, flew in this morning to Lowellville, Kentucky, KVV. How we feeling?

Was that right? Lowellville? Louisville. The people people are talking Neil about your pronunciations, they're good with it here. Alright, everybody's happy. They're calling out from the crowd being like tell me all these things. Alright with me. Thank you. I appreciate that big strong man down in Louisville telling me I'm I'm doing it. Absolutely urban in their cups. Yeah,

tears in their eyes. Yeah, KVV, tell us about your day. How was the experience out there? Oh, it was fun, it was hot. I'll tell you what, my sunscreen helped a ton. Made sure to lather up multiple times with that, but I did the swoop in plan. I just showed up here about one o'clock. Basically just was like, you know,

shook some hands like a presidential candidate and then just started chasing after the stories of the day. I walked the front nine with was Zander and Colin and I'll tell you right now the front nine here really kind of stinky. Not not great. Back nine more fun. Yeah, back nine more fun. I walked with Bryson and Vic for most of that. Watched a teeny bit of Rory just to sort of, you know, try to take his temperature, but glad I came, you know what?

I'm like, I'm in the biggest Xander fan, but I feel like at least he got pushed. I said, I think earlier in the pod, that he would win a major only if nobody pushed him, and he kind of proved me wrong there. So I think he deserves some credit on that Definitely and and you got maybe the pick of the day it could if you want to bring up the Bryson celebration on 18 KV look like you would be behind the 18th green when

Bryson willed that putt in how should we be thinking about Bryson after this? What's what are your thoughts there? I think by the way I'm gonna give credit to Jordan Prez cause she was like, you know, it'd be really fun today is if you just went around and took a bunch of pictures for the NLU Instagram. And so I just basically was like, all right, I'm gonna snap as many pics as I can. And was right by Bryson kind of all the back nine,

get to see some fun celebrations. And you know what the truth is, is that majors are just way more fun when he's involved. Like you get to see him do like some superhero stuff. You get to see some pretty darn good fist pumps for golfers and you get to see just exciting fun golf people are people out here were going crazy for him. I cannot tell you how much the fans wanted him to win more than they did Xander. So so it was noticeable the crowds were rooting for the medium golfer. They very much were. Bryson has won over a lot of people, whether it's the online stuff. I mean, you might remember years ago,

I covered the sort of match at the end of the BMW between, you know, Patty Ice and Bryson. I cannot tell you how that day, how anti the fans, anti Bryson the fans were that day, and how that would never happen today. There would be no scenario where people were cheering for Patrick Cantlay the way that they were that day and sort of booing Bryson like they were. He's doing stuff online, man.

People love his online presence. Well, you know what, TZ, he cited that in his post-round interview, as he's been doing a little bit recently. He said, you know what he's he cited that in his post round interview, as he's been doing a little bit recently said, you know, I it's really helped me to be able to do some creative content online to, you know, to recharge myself to do the YouTube stuff of milk, I feel like it gets me refreshed. And so it can come to these tournaments and really, you know,

empty the tank and then go back and fill it up by doing content online. That's amazing. That's amazing. Good for him. Same. Same. Yeah. What do you guys think, dude, if that goes to a playoff, Bryson versus Xander, who you got in the playoff? I would have been on Bryson. I'd have been on Bryson. Yeah, that was Xander's shot was right there on that putt and he took it. Yeah. And it would have been a three hole playoff. Correct. Solly 13, 17 and 18. Yeah.

And maybe that's what I was rooting for. Cause I found myself being like, I hate to say it, you know, I picked Xander last night. I'm like, I wanted to break through. I want to strengthen the field chasing Scotty, but then it comes down to it. And Randy, like talking about your, your like the gut instinct, like, Oh man, what if you miss it? We get, you know, bonus golf and Bryson's back in it.

You know, it's like, you can't ignore those feelings. It's tough. When I took that pick, he was just hammering balls. I mean, like 200 mile an hour ball speed for like a good 15 minutes just to sort of get his nerves through it as he kept sneaking up glances. And I got a little video of him, kind of he finally stopped and watched

Xander roll in that last pot. And he was super gracious about it. He made a specific thing to go find Xander and shake his hand and say congrats and congratulated him in his interview afterwards. Like, yeah, exactly, the guy on the airplane. No, he was fun. I gotta give all credit to Bryson

for making this at least exciting because Vic kind of shrunk a little bit there in the last sec and then Bryson at least rose to the challenge. So what do you, what do you chalk up Bryson's like evolution or shift to? Like, is there something that he's talked about? Like, aside from the, from the YouTube stuff,

cause even just in talking to the media, he was always super prickly, misunderstood, whatever you want to call it. And now it seems like he's almost embraced it or two. So outwardly, I would say the religion stuff that he has sort of, you know, been more outspoken about has probably helped him a little bit. He's definitely brought that up a lot. And in a way that, you know, you can decide how you wanna feel about it one or another. I think his dad's passing, you know,

which he's hinted at a few times. He hasn't, you know, really kind of, he said a few times, I've had a really difficult year. I've been through a lot. People don't really know like what I've gone through. And obviously his dad passed away not that long ago and stuff. And so I think that that has kind of, I would say that's probably helped him mellow in some ways.

I do think just he's not quite as like full of, his grievances aren't quite as outward as they once were. He's found this community of YouTube people or TikTok people who's kind of really love him. And that's, I've always said what Bryson wants most is to be loved. I think it's fascinating if you think of a alternate universe where guys on the PGA Tour, instead of like pushing him away, like put their arms around him and we're like,

hey, we would love to have you like be on our side in this live stuff. I think he would probably be like, there's a real scenario where you could see him being like the biggest PGA Tour advocate. Like basically like, no guys, like this is real golf. This is what matters. This is this is our thing and It makes me laugh sometimes to think about like that's the alternate universe of Bryson because he just wants to be Like enjoyed by people who he's peers with that's always really wanted for a long

spitting in those people's face He was sued these guys, Let's not absolve. I know, he's still a piece of shit. Like he's an absolute piece of shit. I'm just telling you what I think he's, what he's always wanted. I mean, he said he didn't have many friends as a kid. He was different.

He was weird. And that's why, you know, people sort of felt like, he, he, that's why he's, his mom always told him that he was never going to be accepted. And I think he just was, he's socially awkward. He, he'd know how to handle that stuff. And he's learned over time to be a little bit more at ease with who he is.

God, T C's gone from I'm all in on Bryson. I just said, he makes me feel in 29 minutes and 55 seconds. Uh, all right. Well, let's give one more for you here. KVV. I know you're going to be writing a gamer kind of kind of a look back on the 2024 PGA championship. So I guess it's two parts. Why is Xander, why is he able to break through?

Was it because the course was easy and it was a turkey shoot? And then follow up to that is like, what are we gonna remember when we look back on this event? I think he was able to break through because you know he, for whatever reason, like I think sports psychologists sort of tell you this stuff, it's that whole like control you can control and it sounds stupid and cliche and it's not really make for good media stuff but that's why he was able to think about like you know I can compete this week even though he got absolutely dusted last week. He's not a person who was you know

internalized a lot of that criticism. He's tried to very much be offline and those kind of things. And the truth is, I talked to Chris Como a little bit as coach, he just got better. He got, he got faster, he added more speed, he went through swing changes, he still was able to sort of compete in this stuff. And if you, if you knock on the door enough times, you're gonna find out, you know, you're gonna find a way to break through. I don't think't think Sanders like a four major guy

But like he's talented enough and that that's why I think this happened that he just put himself in the mix enough times Where the cards fell his way to that point there was a he was getting interviewed after his round yesterday and Somebody was asking him a question about you know, what would it mean? What would a win mean? What would a win mean? And his answer was just like, he was kind of getting dragged for this answer on Twitter was like, that's a result. You're talking about a result, right? Like, that's, that's, that's different than like the process. And he like, what, he was asked again about it. He's like, Yeah, but this results different. He's like, No, no, again, like,

you're talking about a final result, like I, the way to get that is through a process, right? And that I found that interesting, like, of course, he went to bed last night thinking about the result of trying to win one. But like, the way the path to doing that the path to overcoming like Obvious issues he's had in closing these tournaments was like no no this is gonna be about the process gonna be about the process and like viewing it all this old back nine through that lens of like the horrible bogey made on ten and it felt like it was all gonna happen again and Stuffing it on 11 and stuffing it again on 12 and making those birdies just

like dude that's fucking processed man like that could have gone so many different ways at that point and he got it done. I look it wasn't super inspiring the way that like 18 played out like it's a pretty bad drive in the moment but that's a pretty darn good shot with the ball that high above your feet to get it up there and hit a good chip you know I mean those are big boy shots and he you know he did it he stepped up and so I talked to him, Neil, to your other question, like how will we remember this? It's just kind of such indicative of how the PGA is just like your weird uncle.

No, not your specific weird uncle, but everybody's weird black sheep, bumble uncle. Like, Hey, sometimes it's a great party. Like sometimes you got to bail somebody out of jail. Sometimes somebody's getting divorced. Sometimes like, you know, somebody comes in and they're, they're feeling despond getting divorced. Sometimes like, you know, somebody comes in and they're feeling despondent because they can't, you know, they have nothing going on in their life.

They feel like their job is falling apart. Like Vic, it's just a weird mix of all kinds of things. And every year I just feel like we don't really know what it's going to bring, right? Like sometimes Phil Mickelson is going to win the fricking PGA at 50. Yes. It's just, it's kind of a fun major because of that because it doesn't have

it's always going to be looked down a little bit our noses at it's never going to be as cool as the others and but I like its weird energy it's like insecure energy in that way. Yeah I love that so so KVV we've got you uh writing a gamer tonight is that right? That's correct we're going to just kind of put into context like everything that happened this week and uh if you're if you're to look back 10 years from now like Sally and I are want to do on these things. What what would you remember uh from this and you know the the Scotty stuff, the Rory stuff, it's it's all gonna

sort of feel like did that really just happen like that's I think we'll try to of put that in context. Yeah. What, KVV, what, if anything, is to be made of Xander's dad not being there? Because he's kind of an ever-present presence, and he's his swing coach, like he's, you go to like xanderschoffley.com,

and it's a fucking tribute to his dad. Well, his caddy made that point to Austin Kaiser. He said that, you know, the last year or so, Chris Como has really been his main swing coach. And there was, we were asked him a little bit, like, was there any tension with his dad over that? And he's like, no, like his dad knows that he doesn't know everything.

And I don't know, like, if that's not necessarily my take on having talked to Stefan at the Ryder Cup. Like, he's a very confident person on having talked to him, talked to Stefan at the Ryder Cup. Like he's a very confident person that it feels like he does know everything. But you know, I think maybe if that's not the case that Stefan didn't step aside, then I think it's very possible that Xander said like, Hey, I need someone else to sort of have some eyeballs on this. And, you know, Chris Como worked

with Bryson for five years. So it was a kind of a weird final sort of pairing for him to watch that whole thing going down like the former guy you taught for all this year and then the guy he been working with recently and you know, I think he's Anderson he mentioned his family taught about how excited he is to celebrate with them. But I think it too, like, it is important for every golfer to sort of move past that evolution of like, and here's my parents like 15 feet away, right? Like that was

part of Tiger story for a long time. And it was part of Tiger's story for a long time. And it was part of Rory's story for a long time. But like, eventually you got your own family. You got your wife here. You got your kids running out on the green. And I think maybe that's part of what Xander's going through now. Yeah.

Which yeah, I mean, wire to wire, you know, or pseudo wire to wire win. Like, you know, that's plenty of time to get your family there and your, you know, and's plenty of time to get your family There and you know, your dad's hanging out in in first, you know, Hawaii. I just thought that was interesting For sure. Yeah. All right. Well KVV. Thank you for joining us. We'll let you get back to To writing and we will we'll see you tomorrow Cheers, boys. All right Gentlemen before we bring in our next special guest. I do want to give a shout out to sunscreen.

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All right. I wouldn't mind smelling like bananas. I think Solly has a couple things before we get to our guests. Real quick on Xander, I want to just shout out, for as much as we've talked about him, I don't think we've ever just flat out said on here, Xander is an incredible putter. He's a very, very, very good putter and extremely consistent. And his putting does not slump. It is one of the most consistent pages you can find on

data golf of like his putting is very above average and a true asset to him. And that like truly it paid off this week. He was 13th this week in putting gained almost five shots on the greens. Like that's the difference in winning these things. And not is like, he's not only incredible ball striker, he's obviously playing the best golf of his life. Uh, you know, he's over two and a half shots gained per round now, which is really freaking good.

That's what Rory got up to on some of his hot streaks. That's one thing. And two, we talked a little bit about this in the week, kind of leading up to it of saying, all right, that doesn't mean, just because he's had close calls and hasn't won, that doesn't mean it's gonna be that way forever, right? And we just noted this,

it seems like he's had a ton of close calls and can't close the door. I looked at this up. Phil had 8 Top 3 finishes before he ever won a major. Like, can you imagine podcasting about Phil Mickelson, like, between like 1998 and 2003, about all the close calls he's had now? It feels like it wouldn't happen. I don't think Xander is, or Phil is a great comp for Xander. I don't think he's gonna win 6 majors and be one of the best players of all time, but I just found that part interesting. And I'm searching for the comp in that way of like who, who else is kind of, Xander had six top fives before this breakthrough. Sergio had 13 before he won the 2017 Masters, so like, as, but as hard as we've been on Xander,

it's really not, he's not really had the same amount of close calls as two of those guys that people are a lot more familiar with. So we can talk about what this means for his future. No, I think those are great points. I think it almost feels like Xander has done it in a very dense amount of time. Like some of those guys, it felt like it was spread out a little bit longer. But he's just like the last, you know, basically year and a half, he's just been on the first page of

the leaderboard. He's like an auto top 10. He just doesn't, his floor is, has always been so high that, you know, and then on the putting notes, Sally, it's like, you can't argue with the numbers, but I, I find his putting to be, I don't know, his, um, his stance or vibe feels a little uncomfortable. Do you, do you, do you see that? Or I don't know, maybe, maybe that's a personal thing. Just the way it looks. I, I look at him, I'm like, Oh, that guy's an awesome putter. But then, you know, the numbers say otherwise true eye test situation, Randy. Uh, I think one other thing with, uh, going back to Bryson is just Bryson's crank, right? The crank drivers

changed the game for him and the Hebrew hammers. He's still playing the 3D printed irons, the one of ones. Unbelievable. Real quick on the Xander over the last 12 months is like the ninth best putter globally, less than that, like the fifth best putter globally. Like on top of being that good of a ball striker to be that good of a putter is just again something we don't really call out. I just wanted to point that out. Yeah. All right.

There were spots where he missed like that bogey on 10 was so bad. And Trevor Immelman said it in the moment, like when he was in that bunker and he's like, Oh, I don't like this. He's pulling fairway wood, even though the bunkers are at grade and they're a disgrace. But just to make bogey from even where he was 30 yards short of the green there, and then it's a bad chip and then misses the putt. And it's like, here we go again. So I do give him credit for, he certainly had to feel here we go again too. And then he locks back in

and makes a couple birdies and all that. So, all right, well, we're calling him in from the bullpen. He's fresh off the plane. He was exploring Odin's home country. Mr. DJ Pye, are we feeling well rested? What's the vibe, Dej? We're feeling good. I was feeling a lot better at about 4 45 a.m. Central time this morning. Anytime you fly west, you come back and you're just that first morning you wake up and you're like, man, I'm a morning person now. I'm productive. I'm going to do this for the rest of my life.

And then you hit about seven o'clock PM and you're like, oh man, I, what, what day is it? But you know what? I'm happy to be here. Thank you for having me on your program, Neil. It's, uh, it's great to see you guys. Our program, our program. We've got the, got a five man weave going. I love it.

Uh, all right. You got to get three outs from the bullpen. Come on. You called me in during the masters. I need a man. I need him right now. Eighth inning right now. Got to have that was good. KVV, you know, had some good stuff early. Maybe, maybe let on a couple base runners, but we can, we can come in and lock it down. You asked me to get three outs. I've prepared three takes TC. I have one request. You need to wait till the, the, the plane comes to a complete stop on this first one before you.

Just buckle your seatbelt until you hear the ding and then I would love to discuss afterwards, okay? I'm gonna mute myself, all right? First take, sorry, I was itching to get in there. Xander Schauffele winning a major is good. Two thumbs up, that's a good thing for golf. He's a good major winner. What do we bitch about all the time on this program? Consistency. You know, the guys who are impressive are the guys

who are consistent. No one in the world has been more consistent over the last year, besides Scottie Scheffler, than Xander. He does it every freaking week, man. I think it's 23 of the last 25 starts. He's finished in the top 25. It's incredible. I cannot believe that I'm throwing these stats out here, but again, TC, you're going to have your time to respond.

He's made the tour championship every single year. He's had his card. There's a lot of chuckle heads that have one bad year and just flame out. Xander has never done that. Listen to these numbers I'm about to say okay there's there's what 200 guys on tour something like that I hate that I'm about to cite the FedEx Cup standings but just just please you guys know what they mean it's a reflection of how your season has gone and here are Xander's for his entire career here's where Xander

finishes at the end of each year, essentially out of 200 players. Okay. 2017, third, 2018, 15th, 2019, second, 2020, second, 2021, fifth, 2022, fourth, 2023, second. He's currently second in the rankings. He's like, Saul, you're totally right. He doesn't make me feel all that much, but he is the dude, man He is plus two point three strokes gained in the data golf rankings Which when we look at some of the guys on the board up there saw hit is a great example Like zander's like 1.2 shots better than him Every day every day they show up to the golf course zander beats him by over a shot every fucking day and that's where it's like man, that's when you really start getting into it. And you start looking at like, man, why are all these players like so

in all of Xander? What's going on with this guy? Why does everybody love it? It's like, man, how you start digging in? Like he's really good. He's a half shot better than John Rom every day. He's a half shot better than Ludwig every day. It's really good. And a It's just, it's really

good and a guy like that, it would be a shame if he won his whole career without having a major championship. Well, now we get to like appreciate that, right? It all meant nothing until you won a major, right? Like now you can backwardly look at that and be like, all right, dude, we now recognize that. That now is evidence that we can submit to the court. That's exactly right. And I will, TC, before, TC, before we talked on the ESPN, ESPN Plus show this morning about how he potentially is more interesting when he doesn't have a major, which I think there's something

to that. I think there's something to watching somebody beat their head against the wall for years and years and years and not make it through. You guys talked about Phil. You talked about Sergio. I think those are great comps. I'm going to like Indiana Jones, swap the, you know, the the weighted bag,

like take Xander. And I'm putting Colin on that after today. That sucked, man. That was like this isn't even my second take. That sucked. Like and that is where it's just like, no, that's that's the guy like that we need to be watching. And the whole, can he do it with fans around?

Was that a one-time pop? Is he going to do it again? That's much more interesting than Xander just never winning one, I think. All right. So first one, you struck him out looking, Deeds, blew it by him. Just threw over to first, almost got him at first base. Does TC get a response? I don't get to rebuttal me. No, please. And again, none of this is like, oh my god, Zander is my favorite player. I'm just like, it's a career achievement guy deserves to win a major. You have to hand it to him.

I think Zander, you saying it's good for golf. I think Xander embodies everything that's wrong with the PGA tour right now. Just like a bland, almost faceless, like amalgamation of statistics and analytics of, like he's just, yeah, dude, he's like, he's gaining two shots around. Like I don't give a fuck, right? Like I don't enjoy watching him.

I don't, it's not, like there's nothing't enjoy watching him. I don't, it's, it's not like there's nothing artful about it. The court's going to put those two arguments next to each other. You know, he's, he rolls around. I do love that. He hates Jay Monahan. Like I, I wanted to ride, dude, I wanted to ride for, for Xander. He put his name on that. He got up at the players and he said, like, yeah, I think Jay Monahan's joke basically I say we all been saying for three or four years. I think I think he's more interesting than then people realize and I think It's one of those things that like when you win like this stuff Compounds and when you once you're once you win People care more about what you have to say when they care more about what you have to say they ask you more questions

I think that stuff Snowballs a little bit. So maybe he'll get some swag from this. I hear what you're saying there, Deidj. I do think it's much more interesting if he wasn't. He just seems, he strikes me as corny. He strikes me as kind of a prick. He strikes me as just kind of arrogant in a weird way. Even stories from him growing up in San Diego or Southern California, junior golf and amateur golf, like just treating his competitors poorly. But I struggled to hear that and then you see or hear from the guys out there that they all seem to really like them. Some of his Ryder Cup teammates that they got their asses kicked with, you know? I don't know. DJ, to your point about Colin,

I don't know. I just in DJ to your point about Colin as much as I'd like to get with you on that like We got a look at can't lay. I mean can't lays not even he's not even like putting himself Yeah neighborhood. It's race. That's no exactly right. He's not even he's not even like hasn't even played good enough to like get shit on That's just funny. It's just weird to me that I don't know and like maybe it's a can't lay issue that Xander and Can't lay are best friends. Like maybe I just maybe I can't look past that right? I don't know. It's just watching that golf on this golf course. The ball doesn't spin anymore. The greens don't break Fucking hazards of we're not there yet. We're not there yet. I know, but I can't separate these things. Neil, we gotta break up this meeting on the mat. We gotta break up this meeting.

Listen, Dej, batter up. There you go, coach. All right, TC, you brought up the golf course. I haven't been able to catch a lot, but I'm reading between the lines. You guys didn't like Valhalla very much. And so what I'm, I have prepared a list. These are five golf courses that I think would have been better venues than Valhalla this week. This is a lot of kind of center of the country. I love,

Randy, you said it on the preview, I believe. Like I love that they went to Kentucky. It looked like an awesome turnout. I, I, I love seeing majors move around the country. I don't like it being like, this week, you know, this year, we're in New York and next year, I can't wait to go back to California. Like I do like when when we see majors in our beloved flyover country here. So here's what I'm gonna say, I'm gonna throw out these five, I'll go one by one, you guys tell me if these would have been better than Valhalla. Muirfield Village. Yes. Yes.

Yeah. I would say I would say Valhalla. Muirfield Village. Yes. Yes. Unequivocal. I would say nobody would have seen it every year. I don't even like Muirfield Village either. I think it would have been more fun. I would prefer Valhalla just because I haven't seen it in 10 years. So.

Fair. And I tricked myself into thinking about that. That's a big thing for me. I really don't like it when they take majors to courses that have a tournament every year. Okay, but I tricked myself into that line of thinking on Wednesday of this week Okay, who cares the stage and then by Thursdays like no fuck this place like sometimes once you remember I just because you forget how bad of courses doesn't mean it's a terrible venue like that's where I'm at

So I don't care if it's a repeat I give me quail hollow ten times out of ten over Valhalla after what we saw this week Yeah, all right number two. I'll confess, I've never actually even been to this golf course. The honors course. Yes. I don't know that one. I would say yes, because I don't know much about it,

other than I hear it's very hard. I think Curtis Cup hosted an NCAA championship, I remember, like, in 09 or something like that. I know they just did a reno, maybe 2015, something like that. He's getting a little tired. Major in reno maybe 2015, something like that. Getting a little tired major in Tennessee. I think would be cool. That's just, that feels like it, it feels like there's a lot going on there that that could be very,

very positive. Uh, okay. Looks like we've got a quorum on that one. I still just can't believe like, like nobody has ever tuned into a golf tournament to watch Xander Shoffley. Like nobody cares about him week to week on the PGA tour. Totally. It's crazy. TC, I'm not... First of all, you had an opportunity to challenge this, like, and now the next batter is up.

But I think that the, like... I'm not saying it's like, this is the savior, man. This is it. We are all like... It's not good for golf. I think if it's a one or a zero, like, I think it's better than Julian Rose. I disagree with that take, TC. I think that he becomes more interesting with this one bogged down. Okay. So first and third. Yes. Let's go. Come on. Deidre. This is an easy one. Heart pick. going back, Aaron Hills. I knew this was going to be on your list, of course.

Yeah, 100 times out of 100. Has to go back. I think it would be a great venue. All kinds of space. It would be awesome. Fourth one, one that's close to all of our hearts, Inverness. Yes, unequivocally. Would be awesome.

Definitely. And the last one, I think all of us, or maybe not all of us, at least me and TC, and I don't know if any of you guys were there, but Olympia Fields. I think would be, I had a blast watching golf at Olympia Fields last year, and I think that would be an interesting revisit for a major.

It was a lot better than I thought it was gonna be. A lot more variety, a lot, I thought you were gonna go Chambers there. Well, I was trying to keep it in the middle of country. That's easy, yeah. You know, and I didn't want to also, it could be like, oh, Chicago Golf Club, or Shore Acres, but like all these felt like and in man. They should do it at bandit Alright, do you guys like hazel teen or Valhalla more?

Sophie's choice That's a pop pop Because I skipped the first three days of watching this one. I'll say Valhalla No, I could let me just for the edited version of the pod. Let's go ahead and remove that and let's say I'm sorry, PJ. I appreciate you throwing out solutions. So that's that's what we're trying to do man solutions, you know and and I even would because of like the I hate the vibe of Valhalla is like a probably a it's a big deal I would imagine in in Kentucky right it's hosted the Ryder Cup it's hosted a bunch of big tiger moments it's hosted a lot of PGA championships and so what I hate is in Hazelteen

I think you could say a lot of the similarity stuff there's a lot of similar stuff I hate when you come in like an area of the country kind of gets like one shot like this. And everybody shits on like the crown jewel. I hate that. I don't like that. And so what I would say is like, like Valhalla seems like it would be great for I don't know host like a playoff event. You know, tour event. Yeah, tour golf course, tour event. It does produce great leaderboards. It does ask incorporates in or granted, it's kind of over and over and over. But it does produce great leaderboards. It does ask

incorporates in work. Granted, it's kind of over and over and over, but it does ask a question. Massive turnout seems like there's a ton of good golf fans. I think there should be high level golf at Valhalla. I do not think it should be a major championship. I agree with that completely. We're critiquing it through the lens of we get two rotating American major championship venues every year and it does not come close to clearing that bar. Continue,

DJ. DJ, nasty splitter. Reach across the aisle there real quick and say too, it's not like they only got one shot at this either. This is the fourth big event they've had in the last 30 years. This is the third big event they've had in the last 30 years. This is the third big event they've had in the last however, what 12 again, for those uninitiated, like it was formerly owned by the PGA of America, like there was a reason

why it was in the road up and then it's since been bought back by a group of members, I believe I don't know the full details. But like, that's why it's this is a lame duck, like it is not going to be returning to Valhalla after this. It's it's, you know, it's, it's a would have been maybe better, I don't know. It's not well planned out, but it doesn't really matter for the future. All right, third take. This one's gonna be, I can feel this is gonna be a loud strike off the first pitch. There's gonna be a long foul ball.

Change up. Stay with us. Way out in front, hopefully. I think this major is gonna age well. And let me explain what I what I mean by that. You're right. I think we are at an inflection point of a ton of different things. And I think a lot of them are going to lead back to this like weird ass kind of bad golf wise anyways, major.

And what I mean by that is the Xander stuff, this place is going, the rest of his entire career is all gonna come back to this tournament and he's in the hunt all the freaking time as I laid out. He is gonna be in contention at a lot of majors. All of it's gonna be kind of like the Spieth, Spieth Chambers Bay or Spieth at Tr you know, Trun or, or, uh, wherever that was, Burke Dale. Uh, it'd be kind of like one of those, I feel like for Xander.

I think like legitimately may have cost Scotty the grand slam, like one bad round. I think he would have been up there and just suffocated everybody if, if he was up there this afternoon, didn't have that weird round on Saturday. And of course I think he's going to go win at Pinehurst and at Truin as well. And that one round legitimately might have cost him the grand slam. And he got arrested. Which is, that's what I'm saying.

Just to call that out, weird round on Saturday, but got to rest on Friday. Right. Vis-a-vis. If anyone's listening to the Sunday recap and they missed the golf this week, I would highly encourage you to Google that. 601. It starts with a felony count. Yeah. Educate yourself on that one. Not fun to talk about. Rory's divorce, like dog. I think that's gonna probably play a role in the next five years of Rory's life and career. That's gonna kind of track back to this

week. Hovland's back, like pretty clearly I think. I don't think that was like a fluke or fake. Like that looked sustainable as fuck until that last swing. Just kind of one weird swing under the gun, but like 71 holes of really freaking good golf, which I think is gonna lead back to this week. Sahith, I don't know what he is. That's gonna like lead back to this week. Again, it's just like dog,

stop doing this. This is not fun. You got swing at that. Stop swinging at those pitches. Stop swinging at those pitches. Walk. We need you to get on base. And his speech is heroin like, Saad might be fentanyl. Not cool. It's not fun. Designer shit. Bryson like becoming an endearing person. I think that is going to, that tracks back to here.

Oh, man. Remember how fun it kind of was watching Bryson at Valhalla? Colin might be the new Xander. I mentioned that. Next time he's going to be, he's in contention in a major. I'm absolutely going to be thinking about today. And I think also the golf course stuff seems to, I don't know if it's reaching a tipping tipping point but it does seem like maybe I'm just

listening to you clowns too much but there's a there's a more people than ever being like this is like this isn't fun man well let me let me give you a few stats there Deeds just to make that point you got the lowest four round total to major 21 under Randy called it it out yesterday, the 4th 62 in the last four majors. So, you know, we've broken the sound barrier now four times. And then you've got a stat from Justin Ray, lowest combined score to par by field PGA championship history, 2024 Valhalla minus 214, 1997 Riviera plus 40, 2018 Belle Reeve plus 59. So, you know, like cool leaderboard though.

I mean, and I would say this about the leaderboard if we're going to talk course a little bit. I had a ton of fun watching golf this weekend. And I think the reason that is, is simply because of the, you know, the division in golf right now. It was basically, like you said, a signature event, but I got everybody there. And so that to me is like, that's why it was fun. It didn't really have anything. I was able to set the course aside and be like,

oh, this is like, this is pretty fun to watch. But yeah, like that, those stats just kind of call out like, that's stupid. Well, on the opposite end of that, Neil, it's like we only get these guys together four times. Like to have it just be a silly track meet like this was just a bummer, man. It really was.

And it's a waste. Yeah, it's just the bar to clear for these offenses. It just needs to be higher, right? It really, really does. I'm sorry. Like that's kind of the really frustrating part. And Deidre, like you mentioned a lot of things that we're tracing back there, but also just,

some stories are coming to a conclusion here as well at this 2014. Namely, the most important, the one that I think everyone's gonna remember is, again, we haven't talked about this yet, and we're almost now into this show. An $80 pair of pants was damaged beyond repair at the 2014 PGA Championship.

It will be never seen of again. Like there's no, can't even be made into bedsheets or curtains I don't think. So, you know, I don't think we can ever forget that happening. And blocky missed the cut. End of the blocky era. That's what I mean.

It's gonna be a little all roads lead back to Valhalla, I think. And so as much as you guys may have not liked the golf course, which is all, I think very justified. as much as you guys may have not liked the golf course, which is all, I think, very justified, as much as you may not like Xander, I think this one's sticking around in the public consciousness.

Deidre, question for you. I agree with you. Go ahead, TC. I was just gonna say, it's just so depressing that there's not, like, there's just such a, there's a shrinking amount of golf courses that they can go to for big events, And, you know, and some of them are going to have to be new golf courses too. And so there's just more variables. I don't know. It just sucks. I would say the, the one storyline that you, the undersold, I'm just going to reiterate, like,

I mean, Scheffler kind of, I don't want to say there's two left. So he's not robbed the grand slam, but just the some off the course misunderstanding. And he's still T10. He comes back and plays well today. And it's just, I don't think that one we can call out how long everyone's going to remember this tournament for that specific event. And I think that's probably a bad tournament for that specific event. And I think that's like, that's probably a bad thing for this for Valhalla. And I think what you're trying to say, I think in the long run, I think this is gonna be much more remembered for

Scottie Scheffler than Xander probably. And that's a little unfair to Xander, but I'm also of the belief, yeah, if Scottie doesn't get arrested and doesn't go through that, then there's a great chance he's hoisting the trophy. And the Ted Scott absence on Saturday doesn't throw him for a loop as much as it did. It was this whole thing. And I think people are like, oh, well, Xander's playing unbelievably world-class golf. How is that any different than Scottie? Scottie's been beating the fuck out of Xander. That's the difference, guys. That's why Scottie's been beating the fuck out of Xander. Like that's the difference guys. That's why Scottie's interesting. It's hard.

He still would have taken, it would have taken 65-65 from Scottie on the weekend to get into a playoff with Xander. I mean, who knows if it all plays out the same way, if everybody sees that guy charging up the leaderboard. But yeah, from the evidence that we've heard or seen, or KBV's report that according to sources close to the situation, the plan is to drop charges against him. The fact that he was able to, you

know, get charged with a felony, booked for a felony, I don't know what the proper nomenclature is there, and then go play a round of golf shortly after that would go to say like, seems like a massive, massive avoidable overreaction from a police officer that is, like potentially ruin a chance for the Grand Slam, which is I'd like to propose like if he wins the next two majors and wins next year at Coil Hollow, can we call it a Grand Slam? Like just could we just put like put a like a buy in for this one? You know what you should do legitimately, I'm just thinking of this now, you should if that happens we should finally

make the switch and I will I will Raise Brando's hand in doing this and we should just say the PGA is no longer major the players is this is that's it That's interesting. It's grand slam. Congratulations Scotty first time since 1930 You rocked him man, and honestly, I would just I would do that now That's fine If this is a PJ of America look yourself in the mirror go home tonight think about this do it do a little post-mortem debrief after action report and just say if this is what you're gonna be then like we're good We're gonna we're gonna you know, you guys said it not me players TC talked about that duck dish

He had a TPC sawgrass. I mean they're bringing those out out. Yeah, enterprises is bucking right now. That's major championship stuff. I don't know. But I do do feel like I need to call to attention that the players championship does not have a lot of the best players in the world. Maybe that's the compromise. Actually, that would be kind of sick if they this this they that everybody's always talking about they don't want to see these guys play well, they don't want

to see these guys win, you know, maybe that committee could get together and just say, PJ Tour, we're going to make the players a major, but you have to let everybody in. Show me where to sign. All right. While we have Deidre here, Salih, I thought you had a fantastic, I don't want to call it a rant, but monologue last night just on what about this course is frustrating for you. And because I think online, it becomes like, oh, they're 21 under and grumpy old men. This is not my major. The scores are way too low. And that's not the argument. And TC, you weren't around last night. So I also want to hear your take on this, but any shots today that sum up the lack of downside that I think is your core issue with Valhalla hosting a major right now? Sorry, was that for me? That's for you, Sali.

I mean, I could honestly, Neil, I thought about this today and I know there's not enough time for this. I think I could do it with almost every hole, right? Like just like the first hole, they moved that tee back across the road now and eliminated the most interesting element of that shot, which was how much are you willing to cut off of the corner and how much are you willing to take out of that dogleg. For today, the first thing I'll think of, first thing I'll mention is the way Xander played 17. He won the way Bryson played 17 of just no fear of,

I'm just gonna pound it over everything. There's nothing in my way and I'm gonna have a flip wedge in here on a 470 yard hole that they're trying to convince me is a difficult hole, and it's not. Zander hits it in the bunker. OK, what's the penalty here? It's 9-iron up the hill. Fans it way right, and it's just green side, a easy little chip up to 2 feet. Like it was just, anytime somebody got into trouble, it was just like an easy chip, an easy recovery almost every single time. And there was many, many spots today, like on a more difficult, more challenging course, which is what I believe major championships courses are supposed to do. They're supposed to be a more exacting test, more than it is just like, How low can you go? How, you know, how much can you

put the blinders on, go to the whip and absolutely sprint up a leaderboard and make as many birdies as possible? I think majors should be different than that for a specific reason of like, dude, an example I'll give, and this is off the radar of like, dude, I'm not even like, I'm not a good mid-amp. Like I go to some of these mid-amp tournaments, I am like bottom percentile, right? But if the course is easy,

I'm relaxed because like I can beat some of these guys on an easier golf course. You put me on a hard golf course with like a lot of the dudes that play at a lot of these competitive events, I have no shot, I have no shot. It's a better identifier of the best golfer more challenging shots with actual risk reward and actual consequences and

outcomes to driving accuracy. The driving accuracy was almost completely mitigated this week and some of these super soft fairways, wide fairways, and then just all these misses around the greens that were how many times somebody missed around the green this week and they were like, Oh, that's dead. Oh, that's toast. They're not getting that up and down. Yeah, almost never because there's no contouring to the greens. There's just no everything was so incredibly straightforward, not worthy of a major

championship in any way. And I'm just for some that watched it from the jump on Thursday all the way to say if you tune in back nine Sunday, you thought that was exciting, like, and you don't share this opinion, I'm not going to tell you you're wrong. Like it's probably a better way of enjoying this championship. I for one think a major championship should be very enjoyable to watch from Thursday all the way to Sunday, and I should feel like it identified the best player in

it. But he was the best on this golf course. But like, would that have survived on a more challenging golf course? I don't think it would have. And that like doesn't sit great on a Sunday night, right? I don't like putting asterisk on it. I don't want to go all the way there. But like, I will remember this for if you'd have wanted Oak Hill last year, I feel differently about it than him winning at Valhalla. And that's like, that's kind of the best way I could put it.

I totally agree. I think it's you said it well last night, Sally, it's not about I don't like I'm fine with birdies, right? It's just how it's it's the how not the what, right. And I think the you know, I thought obviously the venues poor I thought the setup was poor to the pins were like so benign today so easy like it just wasn't talked to a few players afterwards and they're like, yeah, like it was like this is the worst setup I've seen for major championship in my career, much less a PGA Tour event and we get this week to week on a PGA Tour. We want to see

something different. This is what differentiates the majors. Is there supposed to be more dynamic, more assertive, more discerning of what the skill levels are? And listen, I get it, Valhalla got a bunch of rain in the preceding two weeks or whatever. You knew that going in, grow the rough up higher, do something else. It's just like everything that they did with this renovation leading up was piss poor. It's infuriating. It's infuriating.

Randy, I know you're mad as hell, brother. Well, these guys have all the anger I need. I'm like, yeah, boys, you got this. I thought Hovland, Vic had a pretty good quote about what we're talking about. And this was yesterday after round three. I'm quoting Victor Hovland, the greens being soft and having zoysia around the greens, you can, like, it's hard to separate yourself.

You're gonna have to make a bunch of birdies and roll a bunch of putts in because if you miss in certain spots, guys seem to be able to spin it out of the bunker, spin it out of the fairway. So you can kind of get away with some bad shots, but if you catch fire, you can shoot a low score, which a couple of guys have done, but it's hard to do that every single day. So that's why I think you see the bunch scores. And I think that's kind of it.

You know, like I even think to Xander missing the 17th green, right? In a quote unquote normal major, like that's a really iffy, delicate chip shot he has to play and like it looked about as straightforward of a shot as you could imagine. And I thought that was just a microcosm of what kind of what we saw all week

everywhere. Especially when he felt a little nervy on some of the chips earlier in the back nine. It's like, Oh, he hits it in the bunker off the tee. You think, Oh, he's in trouble. And then it's like, no, he's able to just bail out right. And it's literally the easiest shot on the court. Just didn't feel there was any consequences for anything all week. And that cheapens the birdies that cheapens the good shots that cheapens the the good shots right yeah well i think that if sorry go ahead i just like there's i hate doing this every week i really honestly do hate doing this every week because it doesn't change week to week but like a lot of the blame gets put on the golf course and we're gonna you know we're talking about that now

but like again a huge massive part of this equation is the technology of like, the first two holes were 500 yard par fours and Bryson hit gap wedges into both of them. Like what, what the fuck are they supposed to do make them 550 yards? Like it's literally, it's really hard to set up. It's hard to find a good golf course to fit the what we're requesting of the best players in the world to get into the right conditions to you know, to get the right setup to get, to get everything aligned, to be able to get 156. It's really hard in the current technology, right?

So that's the part that I give some sympathy towards the setup on it. And it's just the confluence of these two things, it's a massive, it's the reason we've been screaming about it for 10 years. It's only getting worse, Xander's up to 190 ball speed, whatever it is now. No, I think it was 196. No, 192 is what we saw on seven yesterday when we were... No, no, but Bryson today on 16. Bryson was 196.

Yeah, I was saying Xander was up to 190 ball speed. Like it's, it's, it, it, it, that is going to lead to these. Yeah, it's going to lead to stuff like this, right? And it's, it's, I don't know, man. It's, it's, It's not going to be resolved anytime soon, really. I thought Andy Johnson and the Frydeg had a great write-up yesterday, maybe? All my days are blending together now. I think I read it this morning in their Frydeg newsletter. He put what you're just saying very succinctly in that,

there was a time when a golf course like Valhalla was like extremely difficult, challenging major championship golf. And as soon as every player can hit it long and straight in a like far more consistent fashion, like that test is not what it used to be anymore. And it's almost like everybody's skipping step one of the test, right? Where like back in the day when drivers were harder to hit, like this was a lot more difficult golf course

and the scores would have been a lot higher and you're not like, solid what you're saying is, there's a lot less downside risk because guys, you're not really hitting it off out of position off the tee. A lot of that is because you're freaking 60 yards closer to the green, 70 yards closer to the green and you're flying bunkers or you're taking stuff out of play off the tee. A lot of that is because you're freaking 60 yards closer to the green, 70 yards closer to the green and you're flying bunkers or you're taking stuff

out of play or whatever. I would encourage people to go read that. The way Andy wrote it was very well done. And I think the other thing I'd say about the golf course is I guess just a bit of understanding that when we get everything we want, I understand that that can also be like quite boring to like a very casual golf fan.

And I'm not saying we should build everything for the casual golf fan. You should solid to what you said on whether, I forget where that was, preview pod or something, but like you should build it to kind of identify the best golfer and you should build it to like competitively separate players. And the best thing or the best illustration I can think of is like when Scotty really

gets rolling and when Brooks really gets rolling at a really difficult major championship it looks really boring to anybody who's not like a golf sicko because they're constant they're never out of position they're constantly hitting it to 18 feet left of the hole 30 feet right of the hole and they're just constantly moving their chest piece around. And I get how watching Victor just like throw it at every flag stick today is probably more interesting to a lot of people.

And so that's where I'm kind of like, one hand, Randy, I'm just like fist up, fight the power. We got to do something about this. And with the other hand, I'm just like, dog, I don't know what you want me to do. But then Deidre, why isn't know what you want me to do. But then Deidre, why isn't the week to week PGA tour more popular then? Totally.

Because that's what it is week to week, right? No, that's the best. That's the best counterpoint. And I will say when we roll around to US Open Time and it's not like a very difficult setup, this is what pisses me off because we get the easy setups. I've seen these guys on easy setups At least test them when shits like hard and I don't care if it's unfair Like let's let's swing the pendulum back the other way one week It's it's like you got to give me that that opposite side of this at some point and

This is this is where we begin to separate a little bit rainy because like then I just like it's the task of like the proper proper really hard setup is such an incredibly fine line to balance right now with the current state of technology that like, they're not there's not gonna air like it's just not realistic to air on the side that you're that you'd like to air on right. I'm not saying you're wrong that that's not more entertaining to you is just like, we're just not going to see that like there's no appetite for

that amongst players or governing bodies. All right. All right. No, no, I want to stop this now. In 2028. Let's revisit that once we fix the technology a little bit and say, All right, what can we do with setup now to make this the thing of all that pissed me off was the fact that like some of these hazards or penalty areas or whatever, are 3040 yards into the rough like Xander on two today. It was disgusting. Solly like you were so broken. You were watching

with Sophie and like you were you were you were appalled because you're like this is the some of the first golf that she's ever seen. She started crying her eyes out when she saw Xander blowball 30 yards offline it hold up on the bank. He just like bones and iron long into a bunker. This is not Ian Baker Finch's fault. He's trying to, you know, instill some drama into this or Trevor's I don't know who said but like, Oh, that's gonna be a challenging book. It wasn't fucking challenging at all. Like it could not have been an easier, more straightforward bunker shot. He hits it to like six inches and made part he did not hit one good shot. He didn't like earn anything on that hole. And that's supposed to be one of the harder holes. And it was like that for like, 13 of the 18 holes. Like that's just one example. I don't have the time to do all of these holes for the shortcomings of it. And it is it like, like, it, I sometimes

wonder, like, are we bitching about this? Does anybody care about it? And hearing from a couple guys that walked off the course today, they were fine. Like, yeah, that was the worst, like literally the worst major championship setup I've ever seen. And I these are like top 50 players in the world. Since I've been covering the game, that was the worst, like literally the worst major championship setup I've ever seen. And I- These are like top 50 players in the world. Since I've been covering the game, that was the worst I've seen. Like it really was. So I wanted to stop because I had- It pisses me off when people say old,

when they say, what's the difference between that and the old course? There's actual, just like, it's not just like a one or a zero. There's actual decisions on the old course and there's consequences and everything's relative, right? The scores are low. There's actual decisions on the old course and there's consequences and everything's relative. The scores are low. There's plenty of birdies out there and all that, but there's also plenty of bogeys and doubles and triples if you don't play your cards right too, even if the wind's not blowing. All right. I love it. I wanted to stop before Randy and Solly started disagreeing again. I mean, this has been a big week with us two. I'm a long way this week. I know. Coming to the same conclusion. I love it. All right, I have some, I have three, four big picture ones

while we have DJ here. Who is now the best player to have not won a major? If we considered Xander the best player, you know, kind of current player, let's make it that current active player to have not won a major. I think you can go two ways with this, right? Of like, who is the most,

who's been like good for the longest time and like accomplished some things and doesn't have a major, or who is the most currently the most talented golfer in the world that has not won a major? Because I think I have two different answers to that question. Are you asking in like the Call of Montgomery Sergio? No, I'm not. I'm asking for the current like yeah talent current golfer at you know on the crooked OW gr list right now And you know, I guess having a little bit of staying power on that list does matter Like how long have you been on that list and at the top of the game? I think there's I think there's

Four people in the conversation probably I Am out I think it's can't lay. I think it's Ludwig. I think it's Tommy and I think it's Victor and I think you could you could sell me on any of those guys. I Don't think can't lay enters the conversation He's won so much more than any of those guys Yeah, but you look at what he's done in majors. Like I think that's a part of the equation, right?

Sure. I would say he can't raise probably the top of my list because he's been around the longest too. Him and Tommy. Do you see who you got then? I might say. I got Vic. I think Victor.

I think he's knocked on the door three times out of the last, what, five majors or six majors. You know, obviously he fell off a cliff, but he's like, he's, he's clearly got that, that top gear to compete with the best in the world. He's won plenty of PGA tour events. He moves the needle like he's young. He's there's, there's, There's additional upside and ceiling there.

I'm not going to say Ludwig just because I think Ludwig A, needs to clean up his knee and then B, he needs to clean up some of his wedge play and some of his putting too. So I think it's Victor personally. If we're taking Ludwig out, maybe we drop Neiman in, but he like has done so little at majors that it's kind of, he's kind of a younger camp. Neiman does not end of the conversation for me. What about Max? I think Max is on that cusp, right?

If you're looking for a different fourth guy in the conversation, I think it's big for the record. I think talent, projectability, and he's had some close calls. I think it's Hovland. Cody's saying Cam Young should be in the conversation. I think Zala Torres is in the conversation well before Cam Young. And I think that's the one.

A tournament, yeah. Cody, I don't know if he was the best player at LaCosta that day. It's either Vic or Gooch for me. I mean, I don't, I don't know if you have to go any farther down the list. That's good call. Those things. Uh, all right.

This is the one I think people are clamoring for. How many career majors for Xander? What's what's the over under Randy? We're going to go to you first. You set the over under that's the most important. Yeah. Who's I think Neil, you've got to set the line. Eight and a half.

No, no, I don't think so. I'm gonna say three. Wow. Yeah. Does this count as a full major? Are you saying two and a half or are you saying three and a half? I would go two and a half if I was you because it's an easy under on three

for pretty much anyone I think. All right, three and a half. Two and a half is where I think you're going to have a chance. So you guys are all going under. Under three and a half. I'm going to stay at three. I think it's three. I think, I think there's a likelihood he wins two more.

He's he's what? 20 28.5 right now. It's 30. So he's always a little older than I think he's he's 30. Um, I don't know. I mean, DJ, you're asking for three more than you're asking for three more. Not two. If you, if you think he wins three, that's what we're talking about.

Neil, if you think it's three, I think a good line would be two and a half to kind of, you know, are you going to be over? Okay. Yeah. Uh, two and a half. Sorry. Well on the edit, I'll take the, I'll take the under. I think he, I think it wins one more. I'll go to just cause I think he probably validates this one, but I don't think he does

more. I don't know. I really don't know. So sick that saw your gut. You didn't even like pretend to ride for Tone in that best player without a major. Wow! Of course not. That's so sick.

Tone hasn't played good in like two years. But the more the trust. My mom was clowning on Big Tone today. It was great. I was like, no one's even going to hit it in that water on 18. Why is that even there? She's like, what about that guy you guys always make fun of, Tony? I was like, oh yeah, he might hit it there actually.

If the tournament was on the line. If Zander's as good as DJ told us he is, and he has been that good. That's kind of what I'm getting at this. And now he's one of the major. You guys don't even believe the stats. Well, I'm going over two and a half. Like winning a major is only going

to help him in these situations going forward. Like I don't, I guess I don't know what I'm missing. I think three and a half is actually a better line maybe. Well, he's playing in the Scottie Scheffler era and we're conveniently forgetting that right here. So I was honestly getting ready to say over until I remembered Scottie existed. The one thing is he's been so good in the US Open.

He's been really, really, really good in the US Open that I would strongly believe that he gets one of them. But- And he's been good at the Masters though too. Open that I would strongly believe that he gets one of them But and he's been good at the Masters though, too Like that's I feel like he picks one off at Augusta for sure we hand out too many So I'll say under I think he gets to two majors that'd be my pick who wins more majors career cam Smith or Zander Shoffley Who I think Zander yeah, I don't think cams getting another one TC I'm sorry. It's not been great.

Um, if I can give a shout out to you, you think he gets another one? I think cam gets one more. Um, he's just, he's, he's been chilling, but he's gonna, he's gonna lock back in. I'm, I regret to report that this is another victory for, um, my, uh, pro golf fantasy draft that we did, in the Mexico Open. I have Xander, I got Xander in the third round. So it's too major for me. I think in that we can definitely count this as less than a major signature event for TC. Or he's gonna boycott the

rest of the competition. All right. Can I also add that TC drafted can't lay right ahead of Xander in this draft? It could have had him in the third round TC that's indictment there, especially with with with our the words you shared on this this here pod tonight I need to also congratulate you TC on Rory not winning this week. I know you were all over that one on Rory not winning this week. I know you were all over that one. Mike Alfredo Tough week for your boy. Guys, I want to share a quote from a personal hero of mine and someone with deep, deep Louisville ties. He says, you have to make mistakes to get better. I used to make a

mistake and kind of get down on myself. Now I make a mistake and I go, okay, did you learn from this? Did you stick to the facts? And did you stick with the logic? Did you have the analytics? In my case, did I have the eye test? You know who said that? It has to be Papa John. OJ. Papa John. Honestly, it doesn't sound like Patino, so it's got to be Papa. It has to be Papa John. Well, Deidre, I mean, you know, I know you've been you've been attending at the at the block party. Any thoughts on Rory just while we've got you?

Listen, wide range of emotions. Obviously, it looked like maybe a little bit of a run. I will say on the block party stuff, we don't have to totally re litigate it. I know you guys are coming to Milwaukee this week. Maybe we can crack a beer and have this conversation offline. TC and solid. I don't know if you guys are understanding the philosophy of the block party. That's where I think the breakdown is. I feel like the block party, Neil, as I've always understood it is just like unabashed. I'm

running at the wall with my head down and I don't care what happens. I'm just like, I'm just like, I party, Neil, as I've always understood it, is just like unabashed, I'm running at the wall with my head down and I don't care what happens. And that's, if you're coming to the block party, that's what you're doing. And you guys constantly being like, yeah, I might come up, but like also he might not win. But like I think, but I'm coming and you got to let me come. But like also like you got to look at like all his past results. I don't think he... I said he was going gotta let me come. But like also like you gotta look at like all his past results. I don't think he said he was gonna win this week. He's like, he wasn't gonna win.

And then you revel in his new information. New shit came to light, man. It's always new information. A lot of information as an outsider. That's Neil. Am I missing anything there? I don't think so. What they said, it's been exclusionary

and I disagree with that. If that's the case, then why are you guys shutting down the block party prematurely early on a Friday, early on a Saturday? It's just to go. He was out of town the whole weekend and run and run against the wall and maybe bring it. I mean, once it becomes like a dangerous situation, you have to for the good of the neighborhood, like you do have to shut it down, but it always starts from a good place. It always starts with like a lot of positive enthusiasm.

But here's here's what I will say, Neil, about the about the block party is like, man, we had this one circled. Yeah, we did. You want to talk about like big driver friendly ballpark with good vibes. This was the one dog. And Piner's is is not the one and Trune is not the one and Quill Hollow though. Some of these like future us open venues are not the one. Augusta pretty clearly is not the one. So that's tough. It's now been a decade. So that's tough. The divorce is super tough. I don't know how much we want to get into that, but like, that was a colossal bummer. Uh, just all around everything.

It seems like an unbelievably, rumors are starting to break contain. It's just, it's which I have no idea of any of that stuff, but I would just like speaking from the outside looking in, like has to be, I don't know, the most like isolating stretch of Rory's life over the last couple of years, just like putting a lot of takes out there. He probably regrets riding for players, getting shit on by players,

like probably losing friendships with players and then something like this happens and they have a young daughter and it just sucks like all the way around. So I feel for a guy that has been great to this podcast and has been great to us and who I love watching on TV. It just has to be a very tough time and I that sucks. That was not fun news to see. As far as golf goes, I guess I'll look at like the 98 yard wedge over the green into the, into the back hazard. That's I think we're here. I don't think we need to are the putting yesterday. It's just like one step forward, two back. It's,

and that's where I keep constantly coming back to like, dude, I don't know. This guy's beaten, you know, Scotty, interestingly, one, you know, an event where Scotty wasn't there. Yeah. Scotty wasn't there. Ludwig wasn't there. Bryson wasn't where Scotty wasn't there Yeah, Scotty went there loving one there Bryson wasn't there rum wasn't there. Yeah. Yeah, and so I don't know I'd say the vibes aren't good TC. Thanks for you know Thanks for asking I get Coachella right now either Well hollows gonna feel I want to get your take on it more so just on Rory just on Rory in general. And that's, I got exactly what I was looking for there. All right. Speaking of some guys that aren't at these PGA Tour events, is that, you think Xander's

a live risk? I mean, his price just went up. I threw this in there of like kind of going in that category of, you know, once you lock up the exemptions, does it change your decision tree of, you know, where you want to, what you want to do over the next couple of years? You know, we've seen it happen with Rom. I would, I would, I would put Xander in that category of like, I wonder if they're going to be able to do it.

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of these. If he's lasted this long, I don't know why he would go now. But, you know, does that does his price go up? And does that decision look a little different? At first, by as hard as he was on Monahant, the players like just flagging that one, I have no given the on give me ironheads. I mean, he allegedly hates live like, yeah, he, you know, he's privately and publicly, like said, pretty dismissive comments

of it. And anybody you talk to is like, no, dude, like he absolutely hates it. But I would have said the same thing about Rom and Rom sold out. He Rom did hate it. But he got a lot of money to pretend like he doesn't hate it. So I just was just flagging that one of anyone that wins a major now. You know, I think it could potentially change the decision. So yeah, that's fair. The exemptions are are worth a lot these days. Speaking of exemptions, Blandy gets to tee it up this week in

the scene KitchenAid Senior PGA Championship. That's huge. I reached out. It was it was it wasn't confirmed. It was through some very unreputable sources reached out to a source that live they confirmed it for me. So no leg up can now report. I would ride actually TC I would ride for you know, in this world where like nothing really matters in men's professional golf except for except for the majors these days. Xander going to live usurping the ironheads firing

everybody bringing in a bunch of new players I've like, I would be interested. Yeah, I'm actually you know what, that's that's a compelling. That's a compelling case. I would that's what it takes for Xander to be interesting. Yeah. Yeah, that's actually kind of yeah I have to team golf stuff if they play that up a little bit more Go ahead. I get a quick live dig in while we're on the topic If I'm counting right to live players in the top 25 go Bryson a runner-up and Dean Bermester at t12 That's that's really the guy that gave it away today with Dean Bermes that means mean Dean Bermister at T12. That's really the guy that gave it away today was Dean Bermister. This

is the eighth major since live golf came to existence and this is seven of the eight have been won by current as of the time of the playing the major seven of the eight have been won by PGA Tour players. So either live is really bad at preparing you to play in majors or there's more talent on the PGA tour. One of those two things I think has to be true. So it's become a tradition. We've, I think we put out, I don't know, at least 12 hours of hashtag content this week around the PGA. There were some bad takes. There were some bad takes. We're going to bring serve pro in to help us clean some up. In golf, shots happen, there's a mulligan ball when fire water and other damage happens. There's serve pro

Thankfully the pros at serve pro can help us clean up some messy takes from this week. Let's go around the horn some bad takes some maya culpas Let's help let's get some help from serve pro and make it like it never even happened Randy I'm gonna go to you first. Would you like to, uh, well, I let a bad take. Well, I keep, I keep buying high and selling low on Colin. So I, you know, just a string of own goals I'm committing on myself here. Uh, school me three times, Colin will me three times. Uh, I told Cody though, you know, I'll, I'll to shift gears a little bit. Actually, Cody, I don't know which one you have for me. The one that probably

tickled me the most was on behalf of our good, good friends at CBS. They flashed that tournament graphic early in the day today where they had two tournaments completely wrong and then the the senior PGA in the wrong location and then had to come back to it later in the day with a corrected kind of around the world of golf. Here's the here's the first one. I think they just rinsed and repeated this from last year like the LPJ match play that happened weeks ago The LPJ is off next week the DP world tours in Belgium. They're not in Netherlands. So on behalf of CBS I'm sure there were some folks in the truck who were who were wishing that Original graphic had never happened Fair enough. Sorry. I thought we were supposed to do our own takes revisit our own takes

I thought we were supposed to do our own takes revisit our own takes. Well, he's calling in there. He's shouting out Colin. All right. I do give CBS credit for going back to the graphic and correcting it. Yeah, actually, that's good to know because I didn't know it was really supposed to be about our own takes, but that's good knowledge. Moving forward. Moving forward.

Thank you, Randy. Important context there. Guys, I couldn't have been selling harder on Hovland coming into the week. One of my picks this week was just, I literally went to the fan duel and was just like, let's see whoever Hovland is playing. I'm going to put that in as one of my big picks for the Wednesday happy hour. It was Tyrell Hatton. Yeah, that was a dumb one. That was bad take. I love a mulligan on that one. I appreciate that, Solly. I called you on that in the moment.

Correct. Right after I said that Xander Schauffele wouldn't win this week. Making the terrible mistake. So I'll have to live that one. I'll own that one for a while. Listen, a lot of my other picks hit very hard. The Bryson under 68 and a half today. I don't know what that was. That was a layup. Top 20 par lays hit. But I got to own this one. That was a very bad in one set. I love it. TC what do you got? Yeah I have an apology. I could not have been more wrong. This actually stretches back to last week. I want to apologize to Johnson Wagner and to the people of Charlotte, to the people of the Carolinas

people of the Carolinas into the members of Quail Hollow. I apologize for ever, ever calling your tournament a bad major venue. Because we've seen now what a bad major venue is. And I apologize to Tim Fincham and everybody with the WGCs, everybody who was involved in any of the signature events over the last few years. I'm sorry that I even equated this tournament to those tournaments. So that was disrespectful to me. I've learned

my lesson. And, you know, and it's it's one of those things I think I hope the people of Louisville can find it in their heart. I like Louisville. I've had great experiences there. I think there's not your fault. Awesome restaurants there. But like, don't be like St. Louis and take this as like TLTC hates this one specific club in St. Louis. He hates all of St. Louis. No St. Louis has great golf fans Louisville great golf fans you guys showed out this week. You

kind of hate all of course thinks I do hate all of St. Louis in Canada. Don't want that to go unchecked. Nobody loves St. Louis in Canada. I don't want that to go unchecked. Nobody loves St. Louis more than me. Or you know what? Woodlands, TC. Ville. Yeah, same thing with the Woodlands.

I love Houston. You know the Ville. I love you guys. All right. Taco Bell. Young brands. I love you guys. But I just like and I'm just tired of hearing about like, oh, like these guys bought this

course and what they've done with is incredible. Like what they did, what have they done? Like it was like, they should have brought Jack Nicholas back in to renovate the course. He would have, I think he would have done a more, like it would have been more interesting. It would have been more provocative. God TC. I'd never heard you like apologize. Like say the word sorry with such enunciation. That was, that was a striking, striking.

You see, T.C., I have to say my phone's blowing up our good buddy, Joe Maracas, texting and he's saying, tell T.C. to take it easy on Valhalla. And I don't think he can break ninety five there. So I don't know if you want to respond to that. I mean, I'm not sure Joe can break 105. We saw in the last golf trip we were on with him 10 years ago. One other apology I have, I just you know what I want to apologize to the golf channel PR account for not you know, for us not adding that

context and we talked about anything this week that we were you know, working for Omahactions on behalf of ESPN and all of that. Listen, hand up there, guys. You got us. You guys are red-handed. We didn't tell anybody that we were working on ESPN. That's what we did. Somebody could tell. Nobody knew. Nea Culpa. Oh, God. That's electric stuff, TC. All right. I will go Uh, I lost my shirt. I lost an $80 pair of pants on my hoes coin play, uh, on Thursday. So we know that we've already apologized for that, but my sincere one is, uh, so much an

apology, but I would like to just note like how, how down and anti-Brice and I've been in the past. And I, when that putt fell on 18 and I'm rooting for him and I'm just like, you know, what is going on with me? Like I just, he's really starting to win me over as just good for golf. And I feel like I need to acknowledge that. Such a sick photo.

Phil Jumman. He's an entertainer and I'd like to see more of them. It's like, yeah, I could go watch the CW network, but I'd like to see more of them in these big moments. And I want to give them credit for a really strong, saw you highlighted earlier, really strong major performances the last year. I mean, he's putting himself out there. He's putting himself in position.

Maybe I should go watch his YouTube channel. If I feel this way, I don't know if I'm going to do that. But in these big moments for golf, I'm glad he's, you know, I'm glad he's balling out and I think he deserves credit for it. I also want to say that he made one of the best four calls I've heard in years on 16 and that shows a lot of growth because I know he was someone that we kind of flagged a long time ago as someone that didn't yell for. So, you know, shout out to Bryson for the growth and kind of, uh, kind

of flipping my mindset on them. Uh, Deid, you got anything? I know you, you weren't around all week. Anything you want to apologize for on vacation? Uh, not too much on vacation. I think this is a, you know, this is a targeted one, but I'll, I'll apologize to our, our fantasy baseball league. So I know you kind of aired me out on this, but Max's team sucks and they just cleaned the clock to clean my clock this week. Uh, I, I, I apologize. I know you guys look at me as kind of a leader as far as, as far as the league goes. Uh,

solid anointed me privately deputy commissioner and for me to go out and just lay an egg against such a bad team was, uh, it was tough. Uh, max's team is OPSing like over 900, like as a team. It's just he somehow like suited up the 1927 Yankees this week. So that that it was just bad for everybody bad for the game. You know, it's been fun having Max as a punching bag in the cellar all all year and I just I hated seeing that and I know you guys probably did as well. Well, I want to give a

shout out to whoever it was that, um, that shouted at max that, uh, a reminder for him to set his lineup for this coming week. That was, uh, that's good stuff. He updated us with that when he got off the golf course. Thank you. Well, and shout out to serve pro. Uh, if you need a cleanup at home from fire, water, other damage, visit serve pro.com or call 1-800-ServePro today.

I actually called ServePro this morning. I said, Hey, I need, I need, I got coffee damage. You gotta go to the apples right before the ESPN stuff. TC's scrambling to find a computer that will work. Um, all right. Max's beat down up on the screen if you wanted to see it. Uh, so couple, just turn it over to TC here to cook for a minute, but a couple of notables on the leaderboard Brooks with a good day today finishes at minus nine Billy Ho and

Jordan Smith shooting 64 Billy Ho and sneaking into a T 10 with a 64 today. Tommy lad final round 65 and Braden Shattuck. He was plus three a, but finishes minus one. I believe Randy, he was still the low club pro, which I know you're fired up about. So TC, what am I missing there on the leaderboard? Yeah. Gosh, where do we want to go? I think Brooks should probably catch a little bit of flack, right?

Like we were talking about this the other night on the live show, Salle, I think how many of these do we need to see before we start talking about Brooks and majors? And he was obviously defending champ here. So, you know, like that was a little premature, but I'll give him a pass on just like the bullshit setup is like, dude, Brooks has been the dude when it gets, what gets hard. So I'll give him a pass for this week.

Agree. Agree. Um, I will not give Rama pass on missing the cut. That was the question. Uh, team Rose, we want to talk about him. Horschel, I'm thrilled to see. People were clowning me for having Horschel in my twisted mind Parlay and Horschel was a no-brainer there. I think this guy, like this wasn't even a great setup for him. All right, McIntyre and Noren, Sally, right next to each other on the leaderboard. Anything to say there? Big shot Bob, eagle the last hole,, to the field again for next year, which was awesome to

see. And it's great to see Alex Noren coming over and earning some OWG points the right way in a big tournament. Very happy. Is Horschel, sorry, just backtracking a quick second, is Horschel's Wiki Yellowtracking a quick second is Horschel is Horschel's wiki yellow the least Competitive of anybody's wiki yellow. It's got to be right in history Maybe in history. Yeah, that would be a good like deep dive like hey bring us the like Let's research the worst wiki yellow in the history

You know, I do want to shout out Hovland. He shot 66 66 66 Friday to Sunday didn't win. That's the Bob May. That's very true. Yeah. So what else we got? Lee Hodges. There were some moments today. It was like, Oh, like Lee Hodges is surprised up to board. I don't. Yeah, I don't think I could pick Lee

Hodges out of a lineup. Honestly, I don't think I could pick Lee Hodges out of a lineup. Honestly, I swear to God, that was the first time I'd ever seen him was today. Well, he passed a kidney stone this week too. Did you hear that on this morning? That's tough. I know the franchise was struggling with a kidney stone last year. They're not fun. From what I've heard, I'm with the kidney stone last year. They're not fun that from what from what I've heard I'm getting word kidney stones stink Rio hits at Sun a Continues his great play t18 for him

He's been like honestly like one of the hottest players in the world this year So I know you guys are gonna shit on that you're gonna say oh, he's a manipulator from Japan, but no for real Harris English and Austin ecro both finished t18 minus 11 soli what would you like to say can we one of the hottest players in the world this year one of the hottest players in the world yeah yeah tc coming in this week he missed the cut at myrtle beach last week i said year. I didn't say this month He does he does have one top ten in the last year TC that you got to hand it to him It's zero top tens this calendar year and anywhere globally

Didn't this guy know all right, yeah Like we're saying on ESPN this morning, there's like 30 million people that play golf. Like he's one of the hottest ones. Who's the other Japanese guy? Somebody else won another. All right. I'm sorry. Shut up. Shut up. He won the kazoo. Okay. That was his last win. But there was another. All right. I'm sorry. I apologize. Yeah, it's your guy TC again. Anyway, Harris English, Austin Ecker,

great week for both. Both of them shot 70 today. Probably should have been a little bit better, but tied with big tone at T 18. So big tone, very, very predictable in the weekend. 60 to 70. You're just making a move this weekend. Promising weekend for Maverick McNeely shot minus 10. Tommy Fleetwood guys makes an eagle to make the cut and then made another eagle today on seven as we were on the air Shot 65 today t26 is that are we gonna celebrate that TC? No, this was a terrible setup for him It wasn't hard enough and and I expect to see him play well

Very well at Pinehurst and he's gonna win at true. Okay, he tied with Brooks Koepke this week He tied with your boy Cory Connors He tied with Brooks Koepka this week. He tied with your boy Cory Connors Brian Harmon Min Woo Lee things of that nature So you guys know Lee Hodges won a PJ tour event. No, I first of hearing that was today. Yeah, that's great That's crazy. He won the 3m. We got the pro T35 with Bryce Garnett Doug Gim Hideki Matsuyama minus eight.

I was disappointed start trending here with Hideki. I thought he would make a move this weekend. It felt like a very good golf course for him. Friday 65 for Hideki. I might start calling Jordan Spieth Jordan Smith. Just kind of like how we called Julio Jones one I think we're about set. No, T-City got 30 seconds. I had a clock on, Solly, seriously. Lucas, you know, glad to see Lucas Glover making the cut. Wills Alatorre's T43, that's not going to get it done. I thought Jason Davis was going to have it. Alatorre didn't come up in our best player to not win a major, which, you know, maybe also receiving votes.

He's won one tour event. Jason Davis, he's won a tour event. He's won a tour event. He's won a tour event. He's won a tour event. He's won a tour event. He's won a tour event. He's won a tour event.

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He's won a tour event. He's won a tour event. He's won yeah, you know, maybe also also receiving votes. He's won one tour event. I mean Jason day was wearing sweatpants today It was 90 degrees in Louisville I think Spencer Hall declared it a sous vide Jordan spreath minus six t 43 for him. No hat pat t 53 tied with Jesper Spensen, Patrick Reed, Torbjorn Oleson, Zach Blair, and one shot behind them Taylor Gooch. Zach was the only player today to hit it in the water off of his drive.

I'm not not the only one Jordan Spieth joined him just a few moments later. He trying to drive. Same deal. Oh yeah. Jordan was trying to drive. Yeah. Zach just gassed. He was hitting these bunty drivers out there, he said, and he just caught one, I guess. Lastly, what else we got? Canyon. Last one TC you got one more. You got to shout out the illusionists at T68. Both boy guards finishing T68. You're never going to know which one's which. Finishing T68 along with Sebastian Soderberg, Luke Donald. We do have to shout out Alejandro Toasty today as well for what will get there. We'll get highlight.

And you know what guys, lastly, Martin Kymar got a shout him out. He made the cut 68, 72, 68, 76. He filled his pants just like he's been filling his pants on the third round at live events and the clean shot. We got to be be better. Gotta be better than that. Shout out to the core bridge financial team, Braden Shattuck. All right. T.C. We knew you were going to bring it back to the cliques. Gentlemen, we're going to get really hard. I was in Norway and flipped on the live show for a second and saw T.C. referring to Martin Kymar as the captain, which was just, I thought one of the better takes of the week.

Can we, just real quick Neil, I know these guys are doing their best to just institute a little bit of drama and decision making. What was up with CBS trying to build this narrative that maybe guys were gonna try to drive 13 that were in contention today? Like, what? It would be a horrible decision. What was that about? I mean, they're like, I don't even know if anybody even thought about this until if they,

do they see toasty hit a 328 yard drive into a thimble? Uh, does that change the decision making coming down the stretch? Like, no, that was one of the worst setups imaginable. That would a truly, truly awful decision for anyone to contention to have tried to drive that green. I could not believe they, they were like seriously promoting that 100 real quick real quick May a culpa, but I was on the right track rikuyo who she Hoshino won the

Cotter Masters Earlier this year in February and then he finished tied for second and at the Australian PGA in the Australian Open. So that's who I was thinking of guys, I wasn't pulling that shit out of thin air. That's like, that's been one of the hottest players in the world over it was there was both those solo second finishes were in 2023. So over the last, say the running six months, he's been a hot shirt. We're gonna go from the hottest player in the world

to the coldest moment of the week. And this is brought to you by Yeti. And I wanna give a shout out to their new Roadie 32 Wheel Cooler. We had a few of these bad boys at the block party, still plenty of beer left in those because the turnout was so bad. And I also wanna shout out the Rambler,

the 34 and 64 ounce new French presses. D-H for a a man like you there. Yeah, we need to involve ourselves in that so you can find those on Yeti.com along with the rest of their selection. Randy, I'm going to go to you first. What's your coldest moment of the week? My coldest moment is Zander shot on 11. He had just bogeyed 10 the first crack in the armor. I think the moment is Zander

and immediately get that round back on the rails was super impressive. And honestly, a level of coldness that I did not know he possessed. Love that. TC, what do you got? I got the cop, Officer Gillis, choosing to arrest the number one player in the world. And doing so, you know, I guess he wasn't part of the kind of squad working the event. He was on duty and all this stuff. So, uh, that was, that was cold, man. I give him credit. I was cold, cold blooded. You cold for that. Sally, uh, I have to give it to our guy, Alejandro Toasty,

who stepped up onto the 13th hole today. Well, well off the lead. Hit 180 ball speed as he put one down the elevator shaft, landed on the green and made the putt for Eagle. We were live actually on ESPN plus when this happened. Go just a little bit of evidence of like, Hey, Hey, maybe one day let's move a T up and make guys think about this would have, you know, add a little bit of variety into, into this setup, but have to give it to him.

Playing Sunday golf that means absolutely it means almost absolutely nothing when you're near dead last. And it vaulted him up the lead he shot 300 today and earned a few extra dollars but that was the coldest moment of the day for sure that drive too. And I mean, landed softly. To be able to land a driver like that on an Island Green in a major championship. Like what are we doing guys? Punt Asia. So I had Collins even par round, just very cold what he did to Randy's portfolio. But then, and I was hoping that he was going to par every hole,

because I thought that would just been a true ice cold round from Colin. But I don't know if you guys caught this, but there was a guy I off walking off 18 Sanders walking off the key box and this guy yells at him from the crowd. You're done, Xander. You're done, buddy. And I just I was like, oh my God. I was like, he's gonna, he's gonna par this hole, go to a playoff and lose and this guy's gonna be in his head. And I just thought like for somebody, like it was so loud and clear to hear that.

I thought that was one of the coldest shout outs from the crowd. Not that I can don't it, but a very, very cold move from someone in the Ville, whoever you are out there. That's my coldest moment. DJ, maybe, DJ, you got one., whoever you are out there. That's my coldest moment. DJ, I'm too niche. Maybe. DJ, you got one I know you were unprepared to.

I was not, this was not on my agenda. I'm into the seventh inning of my save opportunity here. I just. He kept you around. I figured you would have said peace, but I think. It was extra innings. You know, everybody. Mason Miller.

Just throwing gas. We just figured out, man. Keep throwing. So you got nothing? No, I'll shout out to the lady at the Widerot Airlines who lost my bag for 36 hours. She just like could not have been colder when I asked. I'm like, is that, do we know where it is?

No. I'm like, oh, well, like. You should have called me. I would have called the Elite line for you. I know. I thought TC gave you his statuses. We got your number. We'll call you if it turns up. Like, all right. I know. I thought TC gave you his status. We got your number. We'll call you if it turns up.

Like, all right. So guys, I'll shout out to her. They found it. When did it turn up? It was like 36 hours or so. Is that the one? Aren't there like 10 people on that plane? Yeah, very small plane.

No, no excuses. Widerow Airlines. You got it. You got to do better. But, you know, we made it. OK. All right, gents, we're coming to the home stretch here After what we saw this week, who do you have winning the US open?

Scotty the commercial load Anybody anybody, you know rising up your big board? Hovland Yeah, I mean that's gonna be a really good fit for him Yeah, iron play and not having to chip around the greens. Like it's going to be Scotty. But if it's not Scotty, I think having more cow, I mean, Xander, but more cow and Hovland showing some signs of life is really fun.

I think Bryson can blow driver around in like a lot of spots out there as well. It's so striking to me that you guys are immediately like Hovland. And I mean, obviously Scotty, that's that we'll set that aside, but no, nobody jumped and said like all Xander. I mean, that that's just very, I don't know, very telling me, right? I just didn't have it. Neil, I don't know if he can do it. What'd you, what'd you say, Randy? It's just tough to win two in a row. You know, it just doesn't happen often at all. I think Brooks, sometimes the grades do that. Yeah think Brooks, it's tough.

Yeah. Well, I wonder if they look back at 2014 with Kymer kind of pulling off the cheat sheet and putting everywhere. If they look into maybe having a little bit hairier, like those slopes are so dramatic around the greens at Pinehurst. I don't know if they need to be shaved completely tight to have the the effect that they you know, balls like still repelling off the greens kind of like a gust of like, doesn't shave their fairways super tight. So they make you chip around the greens. I have no I literally

just thinking of this on the spot. But I'm just wondering, I don't know if Victor won't have to chip around Pinehurst. Yeah, sorry. It's funny you say that I was I was there last week. And it was Ben and I both noticed that it was a little shaggier the putting from off the green was not quite the Cheat code it has been in the past. So Something that something to monitor for sure. I truly think I truly like Tommy. I truly like max Both of them it's like, you know, you got to shape the ball. You got to got to hit your iron as well

It's a it's a ball strikers golf course. I see a comment here saying no, make it firm and fast. We're not talking about it not being firm and fast. Like it almost certainly will be firm and fast at Piners. The greens will be as rock hard as they can possibly get them. And the slopes are just that dramatic that they don't need to be shaved for balls to still roll off them. That was kind of the point there. So yeah. All right, Jen Flaherty just resigned from the PGA Tour board. they don't need to be shaved for balls to still roll off them. That was kind of the point there. So yeah. Anyways. All right. Mark Flaherty just resigned from the PGA tour board. Real one bites the dust. Yeah. Guys.

Oh Mark. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, sure. Sure. All right. What, what'd we miss?

Anything, any parting thoughts from anybody? Any, what'd you guys think of? A, our coverage, and then B, just generally speaking, the media this week? I was a little bit disappointed in Jeff Ogilvie. I just thought he was a little low energy, which maybe that's just A, he needs more reps, and B, maybe it was just my expectations were out of whack. I feel like we've been clamoring for him for a while to be in the broadcast booth and, you know, do it. And I just didn't feel like he was, maybe he wasn't in a position to succeed or he needed to be in a different chair or whatever. You know, Van Pelt continues to be the man, I think Duvall, you know. T.C., just real quick on the Flaherty thing, is that public info or what is that?

That is on the PGA Tour website. Oh really, wow. Yes. Interesting, sorry. TC, I think we said it on Friday, I just feel like ESPN did solid, maybe too many guys, too many cooks in the kitchen, a lot of voices going on early in the,

on the early coverage stuff. I thought CBS was good, I mean, you know, they're injecting it with better than last year. It was better than the last couple of years of the PGA championship. Like the commercial load was absolutely down. Yes. If you remember back, Keowa was a disaster. Like it was, we were up in arms at Keowa. That was just three years ago and it was, it was bad early on.

It was a lot of commercials, but they actually front loaded and the back half was like extremely doable. Some tough timings when you have that many guys on the course, but that was totally fine. Things got easier for the telecast on the back nine when the three of those guys kind of separated. So you pretty much got every golf shot coming down the stretch from Bryson and Victor and Xander. But early in the front night, it was like, I didn't see a ton. It was a lot of golfers bunched at eight guys around the lead.

It's a tough leaderboard to cover. Tough leaderboard to cover. There's a lot going on. I think also it seemed like they had more integrated stuff into the broadcast with the T-Mobile, like the four box they had and all that, which I got no problem with that stuff. Keep doing it if that's what pays the bills and does less commercial breaks as well. I think on the ESPN side, something I want to shout out, Andy North, Curtis Strange, Billy Kratzer, those guys continue to bring the noise. I love listening to Curtis Strange.

I know. I wish we got more of them. Yeah. And just again, a big thanks to Omaha and ESPN for letting us one do live television for the first time this year on Thursday, Friday on ESPN too. And getting to the ESPN plus covers this weekend was just a ton of fun.

I mean, it takes, it really takes things to line up really, really well for us to want to do something like that and to not get neutered and like to be encouraged to be ourselves and just do the dumb stuff that we do. Like that was like really, really hard to align and they could not have been better to work with. And we had so much fun doing it. So we appreciate the trust there and everybody that tuned in and gave feedback and sending questions like that really helped keep shows moving when there was maybe the action was literally almost not was not going on as of Saturday morning, but a ton of fun hopes keep doing it because that's

that's like a dream come true kind of thing for us. Thank you, dude. Thank you to Jimmy G, our producer on there who's consummate professional and we didn't cuss. We made it four days, eight hours on live live streaming and TV without without dropping an f bomb or saying shit or anything like that. So, so, you know, definitely want to call it Nelly in a historic win. I know Randy, you Cody Tron will be doing an LPGA episode on Thursday, but anything you want to anything

you want to throw out there now? No, I you know, she deserves her own episode. So we're going to record and we'll get that out later this week. I think that the, the stat everybody should know about Nellie. She's the first, excuse me, the second player after Lorena Ochoa in the last 70 years to win six times before June 1st in an LPGA season. So Lorena did it in 2008. Nellie has done it now. So Lorena did it in 2008. Nellie has done it now. Only Luis Suggs in 1953 and Babes of Harrius in 1951.

Those are the four that have ever done it. So really, really heady territory for Nellie. Love it. Love it. A couple other updates. We've got KVV hard at work on a recap this week's actions. So check that out tomorrow over coffee, no laying up.com. Um, and yeah, if you enjoyed hanging out with us, uh, consider joining the nest, just going to throw a little plug out there for the nest community.

Avid golfers. Uh, they help us maintain our independence as a, as a media organization, just a little added context there, um, for everybody, uh, that's context. ESPN in Omaha, we're paying us this week to be on camera, just added context. Sure. But not not nearly enough to just to stay in biz. Okay. So let's, so the nest is we value our nest members big time. So you can learn more about the nest at no laying up.com forward slash join. General, I enjoyed it. Good stuff.

Harry Higgs. Yeah, winning. I think that's awesome. And then also, I just wanted to call out told Mark Flaherty and Patrick Cantlay teamed up together to win 2022 Seminole Pro member. And I guess those two have been a search throats for the last eight, you know, 12 to 18 months in board meetings. Golf brings people together. I hate seeing a friendship fall apart like that though. Can I leave you guys with a little quote from our favorite YouTube content creator? This is Kyle Porter tweeted this out. A question went out and said, you had some really big

moments out in the course this week worth celebrating. How have you kind of embraced being a true showman on the course and celebrating those big moments Bryson DeChambeau said? Yeah, it's actually funny YouTube has helped me understand that a little bit more when the moment comes knowing what to do What to say how to act is really important. You know when I was younger. I didn't understand what it was Yeah, I would have great celebrations and whatnot But I didn't know what it meant and what I was doing necessarily for now I'm doing it a lot more for the fans of the people around and trying to be a bit of an entertainer that plays good golf every once in a while. 100% Bryson practices the celebrations in the mirror. That's pretty much a confirmation.

Man, that makes me feel bad about my surfers. They were really good. They were great, yeah. The cheap in or the put in on Saturday was unreal. That double fist pump, the low fist pump. It's all about process man. Ava broke the fourth wall looked right into the camera after that.

Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's make it subscribe down below. Let us know what you want to see in the comments. All right. Play us out Neil. Also we have Tora Sauce this week. Wednesday night.

Tora Sauce. Cody we miss anything? Big cans. Big cans.