No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 847 - Yuka Saso wins the U.S. Women's Open

Episode Date: June 3, 2024

Yuka Saso conquered a demanding setup at Lancaster for her second U.S. Women's Open title. We salute her incredible shotmaking on the back nine, the setup at one of the best venues we'll see all year,... as well as Robert MacIntyre's win at the RBC Canadian Open. KVV calls in from on site having witnessed Minjee Lee's meltdown, and Yuka's ridiculous shots into the 15th and 16th holes. A fun recap! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:02 It's fantastic. Highnewspirits.com to find that pack near you. Yuka Sasso has won the US Women's Open. Robert McIntyre wins in dramatic fashion on the PJ Tour at the Canadian Open. Laurie Cantor wins on the DP World Tour. We are gonna have an action pack show. We're gonna start with some US Women's Open recap.
Starting point is 00:02:19 We're gonna talk of course RBC. Couple other news and notes from around the golf world. We're gonna bring in KVV who spent a little time on site there this weekend with his daughters. I think he's checking out some of the media, Yuka Saso's media right now. TC is gonna join a little bit later. He is traveling this weekend but he's coming in with some hot, some, I don't know what they are. He wouldn't tell us what they are but he's gonna come bring us three takes that I'm sure are just gonna be yelling to me about something that I that I probably didn't say, but I greatly look forward to
Starting point is 00:02:49 that. But Big, if you'll allow me, I'd love to recap the final round of the US Women's Open for those that maybe didn't get to see every bit of it. Let's get into it. So we have Andrea Lee, Minji Lee, and Wichane Michai. Did I do it? You've messed me up so badly that, okay. Yes, you, I never even went back and listened to how I pronounced her name originally Friday, just because it was gonna be too traumatic. But you sir, that was well done.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I'm sure Marina Alex and Jane Parker smiling somewhere as they're listening to this. But they began the day tied at the top five under par Things were moving very quickly for Andrea Lee early She made a bogey at the first hole while Minji Lee got out and made birdie by time I got to like a TV to watch today was already Minji Lee at 600 injury Lee was at four Minji would then proceed so Andrea then steps up makes bogey after bogey in the first doubles the fourth drives it into a creek Has to take a drop.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Just things started to move very, very quickly. You know, you're in that final group and everybody else is getting out and running. It just looked like a US open hole. She makes a decent double. She also had a terrible drive on the third, got away with it, but after Minji made that birdie, she went on to bogey the third, bogey the sixth,
Starting point is 00:04:04 bogey the ninth, bogey the 10th found the water on the twelfth and made doubles. That was five over on the day all the way back to even par. Randy, without even looking, I don't even know where she finished at. She got dropped from coverage after being at six under and in the lead. She got completely dropped from coverage. She ended the tournament at plus three. She shot 78 today. Meanwhile, Yuka Sas saw so she comes on
Starting point is 00:04:25 and four putts the six that they're having such an incredible week putting but she rebounds to birdie the 12th, the 13th now she's got a one shot lead over Andrea Lee who battled Andrea Lee battle back hard. Just a classic us open round of like making a bunch of pars making a birdie when it when it looked like she really needed one rolling one in on the 12th and Then saw so hit like the two memorable shots from this US women's open She had an incredible five iron into the 15th a shot that like I don't know how many LPGA players have you know Not with iron. I mean a lot of them use hybrids start when they get in that part of their bag But it was just a magnificent shot up the hill to just a few feet rolled in a testy little birdie putt on one
Starting point is 00:05:03 of the harder holes on the course two shot lead steps, steps up to 16, drivable four, the T's moved up and absolutely stripes a fairway wood. I don't know what fairway wood it was, I don't think it was a three wood, I don't think she would need that much club because she hits it so far but knocks it on, two putt birdie. She birdies four of the last of her last five holes. Now Andrea Lee is three back going for the green on 16 hits a terrible Terrible shot that more impressive point out. She put a three-win in the bag just for that shot today she had not carried it at that point this week that was a great nugget from from Morgan but And Andrea battle but just did not have a golf swing today and ends up not putting it
Starting point is 00:05:40 You know not not doing any damage there She ends up finishing it even par Yuka three put 17, but makes par on 18 to win her second US women's open in just dramatic, incredible fashion 22 years old youngest to win two US women's opens. Well, losing my breath. I feel like Neil after the after the PGA championship. But what's your what's your reaction to you can win her second US women's open? Well, it's awesome. I think that's my, my first reaction, my overriding reaction.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Um, just listening to her after afterwards on the green, the, uh, the post-drown ceremony, just, I don't know. You can just, she's very likable. She's extremely likable. Yes. That's that. Thank you. That's what I'm searching for.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Like she's just somebody what I'm searching for. She's just somebody you want to root for. I remember three years ago watching the US Women's Open at Olympic Club and was just so impressed by this teenager. She was still 19 years old. She was playing under the Filipino flag back then. But never gives anything away with her body language. And I would say on the flip side of that
Starting point is 00:06:49 is one of the more, like when she was rolling there, 15, 16, just the mannerisms and the confidence that was exuding from her was unbelievable to see and to watch. And I just love that she has now won two of these things. from her was unbelievable to see and to watch. And I just love that she has now won two of these things. She's what 22 years old now, three years ago, two time major champion. Like honestly, we might have to talk about like, is she being done dirty?
Starting point is 00:07:21 Are the setups week to week too easy? Is that why Yuka is only winning these US Opens? But she's somebody that has had some close calls. She was, I believe, runner up at the KPMG last year at Baltis Roll. She just has a ton, a ton, a ton of game. And even though we're not as familiar with her as a Nelly Korda, if I were picking somebody,
Starting point is 00:07:46 you know, not named Nellie to win this week to kind of set the stage for a lot of fun, not only this year, but for years to come, man, Yuka winning another US Open would be very high on my list. So I'm excited, Tali. I just think like that, you mentioned her approach shot on 15. Our good friend, Sophie Walker, who calls a lot of golf, knows women's golf more than anybody. She's like, you could just hit shots that nobody else has. And that is like the highest of high compliments. That's exactly what you want to see coming down the stretch at a major championship. You want the greatness to shine through and we got that today. So I'm pumped man, it was awesome.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I'm filled with a little bit of regret here, Randy. If you rewind back to 2021, I was on the Yucca train before she won the US Women's Open. I forget what tournament it was, I think in April of that year was kind of like the, just the, shit, this is different like this is really different it looked like she was on her way to world number one she had kind of had a tough 2020 2022 had the two close calls in majors last year and I just kind of lost I don't want to say I lost faith I lost the enthusiasm for it it looked like it was just going to kind of peter out and maybe not be
Starting point is 00:09:02 this and I don't have an answer for why we don't see this more often from her because when she does do it it looks again it just looks like some what's unique about the US women's open that she's one you guys talked about this Friday like Olympic Club and and Lancaster kind of have some similarities in terms of the elevation changes and the shots required to hold some of these greens but it just requires a level of play in a style of play that's not like bullying the golf course. She has an ability to bully golf courses.
Starting point is 00:09:28 She hits it so far. She can dominate par fives. But I'm just so impressed with her ability to meander these really, really, really difficult challenges, the crazy contouring on these greens. Her strokes game putting this week was out of this world and some of the hardest greens I've ever seen to putt. Some of those lip outs were absolutely brutal. All the lag putting you had to do on this course,
Starting point is 00:09:47 leaving it all in the right spots. Like, yeah, I just, I'm flabbergasted about what we witnessed this afternoon. I mean, watching everybody struggle in that golf course for four days and watching her birdie four out of five holes, only one of them really set up that easy. One was a par five, but only the 16th kind of set up
Starting point is 00:10:02 to be easy for a birdie on the back nine of a major championship to like nail it away was just some of the best golf we'll see this year. Yeah, yeah, I know. I wish I had a good answer for why we haven't seen her more week to week, certainly why she hasn't been able to pick off a regular tour victory yet. She's got plenty of top tens, you know, even 22, 23. She made what, 36 cuts and a third of those, 12 top tens. So she puts herself in pretty good position. I just have to think, you know, we've seen it twice now. When, when things get really, really difficult, she's somebody that just is, is going to be there. And it was the putting, um, you mentioned unbelievable weak putting and it was her driver, which is, which is a
Starting point is 00:10:58 little strange because, you know, if you take her approach, play in aggregate, it was, it was okay. And she had her moments for sure, but man, it's, it's the length and the way she can hit the ball off the tee, you know, a little Rory McElroy S quite honestly, I remember three years ago when, when she won at Olympic club, you know, she, she said like, I'm trying to model my, my driver swing off of Rory. And she and Rory actually connected after that.
Starting point is 00:11:27 And yeah, it's, it's one of those things I honestly, like her being only 22 years old, I hope this kind of unleashes her. Right. I, you know, we're, we're, we're talking about like, who can, who can push Nelly. Nelly's obviously had a historic start to the year, but women's golf can get really good here if we can get some players, some young players, especially international players pushing Nelly.
Starting point is 00:11:56 And I think Yuka certainly fits that bill. So yeah, maybe it's just like, hey, when the putter gets that hot, it's Yuka time. I'm not sure. But I know she is a worthy, worthy U.S. Open champion for sure. And somebody saw like I set the reminder on my phone, like I just need to pick Yuka for the next decade. Set it and forget it. We've moved off Nelly so quickly. Yeah. Nelly who?
Starting point is 00:12:21 I might be on too much of a baseball kick when I say watch you. It's like we're watching like a very toolsy player, right? And it's, you know, the fastball is 70 grade and the slider is like 60 grade, the command might be 30 grade, you know, it might not be there all the time. But when it's there, gosh, is it like, maybe the best like, I hate to do the who's best is best kind of thing. I mean, Nellie is more consistent on more LPGA like setups and this is very different, but like gassed up, man.
Starting point is 00:12:51 When Yuka gets completely going, it's hard to pick up anyone that would be better than her. And this was a totally different test. You guys talked about on Friday with Marina's line, like just like print that up there. I'm like, we don't get tested that often. Like we don't get put under scrutiny. Like you get, you know, LPGA and PGA tour events are like
Starting point is 00:13:07 exhibitions compared to setups like this in tournaments like this in terms of you know Creating an entertainment product versus identifying the best player in a tournament, which is two different things I want to talk some about some of that, but we have our guy standing by he has spent the day on site He is in the media center in his familiar position. Kevin Van Valkenburg. Hello, KVV. How was your day? I'm doing fabulous, boys. Thanks for having me. What? What was the highlight of what you saw out there today? It was absolutely the five iron that you could hit into 15. I was right there behind that. And people talk a lot about her driver swing,
Starting point is 00:13:45 reminding them of Rory, but that was like the iron swing. That was the first time I was like, oh, that, I've seen that before. I was, we were talking to her caddy, Dylan Velichetti afterwards, and he's like, there's probably 10 players on the whole tour who can hit that shot. And that's just a fact.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Like, you know, Nellie's won, but you couldn't, you struggled to come up with another nine. Like it was a ball above her feet, and she's cutting it off that lie, and just, you know, letting it kind of catch the slope there and roll out to three, four feet. That was just an awesome, awesome shot. You couldn't watch that shot and tell me
Starting point is 00:14:18 that anybody else was deserving of winning this championship. We've been trying to figure this out here. It's like, why you guys, two US women's open wins and no LPGA wins. Would you have any insight into any of that? I think, you know, Katty was saying a little bit that like it just something lights up with her
Starting point is 00:14:35 when the setups get harder. Like she has enough patience and doesn't get emotionally volatile when things start going bad. I mean, the six hole she four putted today, right? Yeah. We would have completely thought that she was out of it at that point. I mean, the six hole she four putted today, right? Yeah, that would have completely thought that she was out of it at that point. I mean, I was off with Minji. I thought this I'm going to follow the winner. I'm
Starting point is 00:14:51 going to sort of write a coronation of Minji. And slowly like she just starts creeping back creeping back. If you'd have told me that that person who who four putted six was going to make you know, four birdies on the backside, I would have been like, you're crazy. But she just has skills that that reward this kind of game. And it's kind of kept going a little bit. We make the Rory comparison, but and she knows where to hit it, where to not make mistakes and how to not freak out when things kind of go sideways.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I think that KVV just to underscore that, again, referencing her speaking on the 18th green after receiving the trophy. She talked about that four putt on six. I realize English is not her native language, so I can't imagine giving an interview in a foreign language. But for her to say like- In her third language. In her third language. But Tom Abbott asked her about that four putt on six and she was like, oh yeah, that was a good pin. Like essentially just talking about like,
Starting point is 00:15:51 that was a good experience. I'm gonna learn and that's gonna be part of my takeaways from this week. And man, if she's carrying that type of mindset around with her and talking about just, you know, obviously staying patient, enjoying, you know, trying to enjoy who you're playing with. And it just, it does seep through that I think she like really, really likes a difficult golf course. And
Starting point is 00:16:14 that's cool to see. It is interesting to watch her today and like on 16 before she just absolutely hit that missile three wood. She's laughing it up on the tee. She's kind of joking with their caddy joking with her playing partner. And then just all of a sudden, like, just locks in and just hits a, you know, a missile that's probably a 220 carry uphill. And you know, that was an awesome, awesome shot. It's, it's so funny, like, what watching guy watching her next
Starting point is 00:16:43 to Andrea Lee, again, like referring to the tools part of the conversation was just like, I have such appreciation for Andrea Lee. That's not a shot of her. I was so impressed with her ability to manage her way around that golf course and the shots and the creativity that were coming out of that one. But man, I'm on a Yucca high right now, man. It was so freaking cool.
Starting point is 00:17:03 The difference only in the height of their iron shot. Yeah, exactly. Andrea's, you know, she really is mesmerizing to watch her play in a different way, right? She's gotta land it with a draw spin so that it's going, you know, it's gonna land up short and bounce and roll out 20 yards. And that's awesome to watch, but then to watch,
Starting point is 00:17:19 you could just take it way up in the air and stop it on some of the holes. It's like, oh, okay. Like they both, you know, you could, they had an unbelievable shot into 12 and made birdie there. And it's just like, wow, there's just, again, there's only 10 people who can do that.
Starting point is 00:17:32 And that's why it was fun to sort of watch this kind of setup is like, it's a different test. Well, and that's what this, this like, when she four potted six, right? You, you kind of alluded to like, oh, that, that would write them off. But what I really, really loved about this whole weekend, whole week really was like,
Starting point is 00:17:47 there's almost nothing you can do, aside from making a 10 on the 12th hole like Nelly did, there's almost nothing you do to play yourself out of it. Like you can always rebound and like absolutely nothing was a guarantee, right? Some of the most boring tournaments are like when Minji, like if Minji Lee, when she got to minus six, if that would have been over,
Starting point is 00:18:01 if there was nowhere for her to go backwards, it would have been a pretty boring tournament. It really would have, but it was like at no point was it like, like Ali Ewing had a scary, a scare in there. She drove 16, had a putt to get to one under par, and I was like, I mean, if you, if you could, obviously in hindsight, that doesn't look crazy, but if you could, doesn't go on that run, like one under might've been good enough to win this thing. That was the most true, like US, classic US Open I can remember watching in terms of it didn't it never got ridiculous Never got too hard the winner finished at four under par and it felt like you could do anything out there today Alley Ewing shot 66 or 67 today Minji Lee shot 78 like that is as
Starting point is 00:18:38 I'm not the first person to say this and won't be the last of just saluting the course the setup everything that went into this golf tournament was just like, I'm buzzing right now, absolutely buzzing. The players didn't feel embarrassed. No. There was nobody out here who was bitching about saying the setup stunk or that was kinda unfair, that they were pushed too hard to the limit.
Starting point is 00:18:56 They were all like, yeah, this is fun. This is what a US Open should be. And I think that the USJ oughta consider that on the men's side too. I mean, the men are probably more likely to complain, but this is, I just think, hats off to everybody all around for what we got this week.
Starting point is 00:19:12 It honestly felt like a throwback, you know, when I was falling in love with the US Open 20 years ago, right, at Shinnecock or 2005 at Pinehurst. I remember Jason Gore and Ratif Goose, and you know, shooting those crazy high fourth round scores. We got a pot for you next week, buddy. Yeah. Well, to your point though, you just,
Starting point is 00:19:34 you like day to day and then certainly on the final day, you just can't trust anything. Like if somebody's playing well, you can go out and shoot two, three under par. But if you're a little bit off, that do that. If somebody's playing well, you can go out and shoot two three under par but if you're a little bit off that can snowball into a very high score
Starting point is 00:19:53 and I'm a great example of that. I I know she hit one bad drive on nine pulled it into the bunker had no chance of getting to the green there had to lay up. You can see kind of a little bit of you know, air go out of her balloon, did not hit a great approach, made sort of a sloppy bogey there. And then all of a sudden, you know, it was like, Whoa, this is starting like she hit a good drive on 10,
Starting point is 00:20:13 but hit a bad approach. And then it made a bad leg putt, missed that putt. And then it was like, Oh, my God, I think I said in our slack, like, she's gonna make a big number on 12. Because she's just not doing it. I did call it I said she's just not hitting your irons precise. And when that ball was in the air I was like Yep, boy, this is the first time I think I've truly truly good call because I could tell it was not gonna not gonna carry far enough and rolled back into the
Starting point is 00:20:40 creek there. Yeah, I mean, she won this tournament two years ago. Like it's not like it. That's what reminded me of Riteef was like, yeah, Riteef had won two of the last four US Opens at 2005 and was the eight 54 hole leader, shot 81 or 80 and was never heard from again in the US Open. Like it's just, it's just crazy what this tournament can do to you.
Starting point is 00:20:58 And yeah. It was cool to hear how many of the women talk about, man, I was so nervous out there. It just the crowd and the aura of it. And, you know, just talking to a couple other media people like, and the women's US Open means so much to these women. You know, it is, it is like the masters in US Open combined for them.
Starting point is 00:21:15 It just is like the crown jewel of it all. And so they get so worked up. And I think that's why you saw a lot of ejections from some of the top players as they come, got in their head like, oh man, I want this so bad. And it just puts so much pressure on it. Even the ones who are playing well are feeling it every single moment.
Starting point is 00:21:32 And Andrea Lee played great and she was like, I was absolutely just completely nervous today. I could not calm down. And that is all attributed to the cant of those greens and the speed of them, right? I get the't of those greens and the speed of them right I get the shine of those greens is what I've played one tournament round where greens got that color and they were that hard and I was shitting myself like it was just like a if you it's such a separator of talent that's such an incredible
Starting point is 00:21:58 separator of talent like I I can fake it with some of these guys in certain tournaments on soft greens and conditions and when that gets hard like that I'm exposed. I am vulnerable. I'm out there. Like everyone feels that pressure of getting exposed and being vulnerable. And like when you're again, Mengyi Lee, Dave, when you're a little bit off, everything turns into bogey. Absolutely everything turns into bogey. You don't get the bailout pars. Doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Every shot has to be of a certain quality, right? Or, or it can get away from you. There was a tiny sprinkle of rain in the air on the back nine. And I almost feel like it was almost like mental for some of the players. There was just like, Oh, God, like, like, take away some of that shininess on the green so that I don't have to like, completely like clench up over some of these six footers.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Which I'll say talking about this high I was just I'm flabbergasted by Yuka taking a probably was like a Sand wedge lob wedge on the 18th just off the green like the confidence on a tight lie In that spot to take a high lofted Wedge to chip up her third, obviously executed it. But it's like, I can't imagine a situation in my life where I am not hitting a hybrid or a putter there. Like that was just like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:23:14 I don't know if you heard her say it, but she said, Oh yeah, I was short yesterday. So I tell myself, be more aggressive on your chip shot like this. Can you imagine standing over a ball with a two shot lead? If you bladed into the crowd, like you're, it's all. The tough one coming back. Yeah, I know. Let me stop.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Let me stop. Let me stop both of you guys here. They don't think like this. This is how we, this is how we think. You could be amazed by that all you want. Like there's something too. I always, I mean, every, like every pro I've ever asked about like, man,
Starting point is 00:23:44 are you not nervous like on the 72nd hole you have a chance to win and almost unanimously they're like I'm like more nervous trying to make the cut because my game is iffy and like when I'm in contention you just have all this momentum this adrenaline like your game is there you can't make it to the 72nd green and not you know 72nd hole and not have your game be there other than fill at Wingfoot maybe in 2006. Like, you know, there's just that level that confidence that exudes through man this, like I was trying to think back on this is the first US women's open
Starting point is 00:24:10 that's really done it for me since country called the Charleston in 19. Right. Champions in 20. It didn't do a whole lot for me. That was a weird year December. I know that yeah, it's weird. Olympic was fine, but it just didn't, you know, just I weirdly like Olympic. I, but it just didn't, you know. I weirdly like Olympic. I know you don't love it as a golf course, but I like it. It just didn't play.
Starting point is 00:24:31 It didn't play like this, right? It didn't play this like entertaining. Pine needles most definitely didn't. Pebble was awesome for a variety of different reasons, but it wasn't this kind of test, right? And that's what, you know, maybe this isn't what everyone else wants out of out of you know a television product and a championship and a tournament like all we're gonna do is share our opinions on things on on
Starting point is 00:24:51 this show and like contrast this with Valhalla and like look I think there's a discussion to be had right on like hey is the tournaments responsibility like is the tournaments goal to create the best entertainment product the best leaderboard the best package and set the best leaderboard, the best package, and set up a tournament similar to being rewarded most of the tournaments that we see, because that's the most recognizable names play the best at the tournaments, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:14 that the LPGA Tour and the PJ Tour have created, or do you want to hold the best championship, right? And like this very clearly to me answered the question, do you want to hold the best championship? And like everything was exacerbated by the crowd, the condition of the course as well. Like you can't just, they got some luck with weather that some of the other US Open venues have not had as well,
Starting point is 00:25:33 but it just all added up to a really fantastic week. I don't know, again, like for the business of golf, is this going to translate to massive television ratings for this weekend? I doubt it without Nelly being involved, I doubt it. But that doesn't, that's not where I why I watched golf for us for forever. For you know, the massive amount of people to watch. I watched it to be entertaining. That was that
Starting point is 00:25:50 checked every box. It did make me wish I think you guys were talking about the same thing. That's like, I sure wish there were like a bunch of oil money in central Pennsylvania, so that this could be like our chevron, right? If this imagine if this was the major we came back to totally every single year that Lancaster showed out this week. I mean, I was only up here for two days, but man, it was just a,
Starting point is 00:26:08 I heard such good reports from people who stayed in town all week and that so many people, you know, just like so thankful that like the US Open was here and talking to me and like grabbing me on the rope line and be like, Oh, this is awesome. So great that to have, you know, the whole national media here and stuff, seeing Lancaster, it's just a cool spot. I mean, I got to play this course two years ago, in like a, in a fried egg event. And it is awesome.
Starting point is 00:26:30 If I had like a national membership somewhere that was like reasonable to drive to, Lancaster would be very high on the list of places I'd want. I thought, I thought Mike Wan said it best. Like you're no longer a hidden gem, Lancaster. Like you deserve to be mentioned with some of the best clubs in this country. It was fantastic.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And it might be time to circle back at the emails we got from Carleton Woods members after the Chevron of like, if do y'all wanna go head to head against that? Do you wanna do a whole by whole comparison of all that? Like, do you want, like that again, this is why we had these conversations. This is why we, you know, talk about this stuff. I was like, that's two very, very, very different things. And I, yeah, that,
Starting point is 00:27:12 exactly. Not all golf courses, you know, not everything is great. How about that? Not every, not every golf course is great. Just to reiterate, so real quick, like the the membership, you know, they've been playing off of Mets since last October. And they're in a part of the country where they don't have the longest golf season, it's maybe seven months. And I guess I'll use the word sacrifice, but it just, them being behind this championship and the people in the area and greater Philadelphia, shout out Tron. It just, it makes such a difference. And you know, I felt that permeate through the TV. Kevin, I wasn't there like you were,
Starting point is 00:27:52 but it just, everything builds. And then you layer in the NBC coverage this week, which we can get into, but I thought they did a fantastic job covering this and making it feel like a major, major deal in the world of golf. And it just like that, that is not an insignificant part of like, why I'm like so jacked today. Like why, like this, this fills my cup watching it, watching a tournament like that on a course like that with the support and the broadcast like it's we know they can do
Starting point is 00:28:26 it we know you know we know what's possible and I think that's what makes it frustrating on some of the other weeks where it's like damn I know what's what is possible. Big I did have a hand to God a big strong man with tears in his eyes grabbed me on the rope line so tells TC that we are Philly adjacent. It's like an hour and 10 minutes from here, that is absolutely Philly adjacent. So, I'm sending word back to TC that he has heard. The only thing that is, I mean,
Starting point is 00:28:55 there's no shortage of incredible US Women's Open sites coming up. I mean, they have Aaron Hills next year, Riviera in 26, Inverness in 27, Oakmont in 28, Pinehurst in 29, Interlochen, Oakland Hills, LACC, Chicago Golf Club, Marion, Pebble Beach, Shinnecock. All of that before our first opening in 2037,
Starting point is 00:29:15 which is to say Lancaster's not on the list and gosh, it feels like it should be. And that's the only thing I'm sad about today is it almost feels like it should be somewhat of an anchor side of something. So, I mean, it would be a fantastic site to put a Solheim cup maybe before the next US women's open. You know, I know the the PGA of America and the USGA kind of stay in separate lanes, but
Starting point is 00:29:40 God if Lancaster wants to host more events, let's get to Lancaster because it's fantastic. And I've the utmost faith, Randy, that the next time they have a US Women's Open at this course, you will call it Lancaster and you will call it by its proper name. I have complete faith in you. Despite what anybody else is saying,
Starting point is 00:30:00 I totally, totally think you can do it. Thank you. Kev, last one, we'll let you go. I know you got some stuff to do you had your your daughters on site this week how did they like the experience how into it were they? So you're not gonna give me the cry this year. No damn it. Didn't see Macklemore either. Damn it. No it was awesome they we Saturday we walked around we saw Lauren who is Lauren Coffin who just missed the cut and was
Starting point is 00:30:22 sticking around practicing a little bit. That's my daughter Molly on the left and then there's Keegan who went to the USFMV last year. It was just so fun. I mean, it's it's really cool to get to see particularly Keegan who's like super into golf, her kind of clicking, you know, she's started playing more tournaments this year. She's really into golf. She's played in a couple NLU tournaments, which is really fun to have her show up at a 30 handicap and like finish, you know, second or third and
Starting point is 00:30:46 have all these people look at me be like, no, I need to move back a T but she's I mean, watching her like think through like shots and be like, Dad, I think Minji had needs to hit a draw on this one or not. You could such a good putter like she really is like starting to click in the nuances of the game. And so it's really fun. You know, she she walked around and watched Asterix tally today, because she just wanted to see like, man, that that girl's only three years older than me. Like
Starting point is 00:31:09 this is really crazy to think about dad. And so that was just awesome. I love I honestly really did have a couple people grab me and be like, Hey, it really means a lot to me that you like talk about your girls and golf and stuff, because I brought my girls to this event, because you talked about it it so much and I don't know that I would have done that you know like a few years ago but it just kind of made me think like why not of course they should like come want to come to the stuff that I like and man that that makes my heart swell that there's dads out there who are you know this guy had had a
Starting point is 00:31:38 couple beers but he was awesome he was like he wanted to kind of emote wanted to sort of share a moment with me and stuff. So that was, that was great. And I would say daughters and sons, like young boys would have a great time watching these golf tournaments as well. You just get a ton more access. Like again, if you have a major or any tournament coming near you, again, we've said this every single time,
Starting point is 00:31:57 but it's a hundred percent. The players acknowledge you. Like my kids- She signed autograph on the 72nd hole, 71st hole. Crazy. But like, you know, my kids are autograph on the 72nd hole. But like, you know, my kids are sitting on the rope line on Saturday. And Keegan is like, great job, Minji. And she's like, Oh, thank you. Like literally in the middle of the competitive round. Great job, Yuka. Oh, thanks. Appreciate
Starting point is 00:32:16 you. Like, you know, that that would never happen. For the most part of the men's game, like the final group at a major. And it just makes, you know, kids sort of feel like wanted in the game because of that. All right we're sending you on your way thank you so much for popping in and safe travels and all that and what could be he's gone there it is all right at every level of the game when the biggest titles are on the line like earlier this week at the NCAA Division One men's championship the overwhelming majority of competitors chose Pro V1 or Pro V1 X 80 this is what it says I assume this to be true 89% of the field that's a hundred and thirty nine of a hundred
Starting point is 00:32:51 fifty like a lot six players Teed up a title is golf ball at La Costa including the individual champion and four of the five members of the team Champions with the national title on the line titles golf clubs were also the top choice of players in every major equipment category Title on the line titles golf clubs were also the top choice of players in every major equipment category 51% of players gamed a titleist driver half the field played titles irons 57% of the gap sand and lob wedges were Voke designs 26% used a Scotty Cameron Potter, which is more than any other brand The individual champ played a TSR to driver T series irons Voke SM 10 wedges and while there were four TSR drivers three titleist iron sets and 12 Vokeys among the team champs.
Starting point is 00:33:26 You can't play your best golf if you're not dialed in to every piece of your equipment. Visit Titleist.com to learn more and find a fitting near you. I got TC's in the bullpen, but I'm gonna let him get a little bit more riled up here and fired up because I know he's got a couple takes he wants to drop in. But Stephen Choi asked a question, Randy,
Starting point is 00:33:45 what course would be the equivalent test for a men's major? A place that's clearly liked, fair, but a truly stern test? I don't know if I can answer that, honestly. And I'm not trying to be glib. Marion was the only thing that came to mind for me, but I know they kind of thought got a little tricked up last time, but that's kind of of the same vein that's capable of hosting a US men's, men's US Open, which again,
Starting point is 00:34:10 it's kind of a debatable whether or not it can. That's the only thing that really came to mind in terms of a similar test of just the contouring of the greens, just always fighting against you. That's the cable came to mind. Yeah, I struggle. I mean, I like I was the country club real tricked up? It had a bit lower scoring, but I thought that was more on the proper side for a US Open. Yeah, certainly Shinnecock. Listen, Pinehurst, if the wind blows and Pinehurst is showing its full teeth, I think you can
Starting point is 00:34:45 put that in the discussion. I think we're going to get a good one Pinehurst. I think we can let's revisit this. I think after the US Open, I think, you know, I don't want to say that they're not capable of doing this on the men's side because I think they're lined up for a really good one this year. But it's a totally different kind of test than than than Lancaster is. I wish they could host a men's one there. I do not see that one fitting on that golf course, but again, with
Starting point is 00:35:08 tech, I'm so excited. Well, one, I'm, I'm excited for like every future venue for different reasons. I think Aaron Hills could play a lot. Like we saw Lancaster play this week. I'm super excited for that. Riv of course is my favorite stop each year on the PGA Tour. I'm so excited to watch the women play Riviera. But I think Inverness.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Inverness is the one that I have circled up in Toledo, where they played the Solheim Cup a few years back. And even for the Solheim Cup, which, you know, they don't have to, like like make it as difficult as possible. Man, Inverness was playing tough and I think that's going to be a really, really good one here in a few years. I think it could play very similarly to this. And it's a type of place where I'm not sure it can host the men anymore, you know? That's what the shame of it is.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Why don't we bring our guy TC in here now. We still have some women's open stuff to chat about, but I know he's just, he's foaming at the mouth here to dive in on this. I can see him gesturing in the green room and everything. Hello TC, where are you? How are you? Hey guys, I'm in Atlanta. I'm great. You guys summed it up well on the women's side. I just wanted to say too, it's not like the KPMG women's PGA. Let's have them step up with some venues here too. Because we've got, I think the next few years, they've got Frisco, Hazelteen, Congressional, and then back to Frisco.
Starting point is 00:36:37 I like Frisco, but let's get some variety going. Let's go to Cleveland. There's plenty of good golf in Cleveland. Let's go to Des Moines.'s go to like I love the interlock and play. I love the Inverness play. Oh like you were saying Randy Cherry Hills crooked stick chambers places like that. I mean it's same on the men's side man The PGA both PJ chip the one side. Sorry. I would say Oakmont is a place whenever whenever the US Open gets Oakmont That's the type of place where I'm like, alright,, it's going to be tough. I'm liking that course. I would say the other concern there too is like, it's in LA, two out of six years. LA
Starting point is 00:37:14 doesn't really show up for the men. I'm kind of worried they're not going to show up for the women either. They've done a good job. There's Palos Verdes and Wilshire, they have plenty of women's tournaments every year and all that. But LACC, like hopefully that's a little bit different vibe there. RIV should be good. But you know, I'd like to see, like you said, I'd like to see more openings, right? If like, if you could flex Lancaster in before 2037, that'd be nice. Yeah. I know you got,'re gonna fight line you up for some takes I asked for three I'm sure we'll get 12, but I know you'll want to be a part of this segment as well, but Amsterdam I don't have a ton other than to say it felt like a real effort from NBC Dan Hicks good graphics intro packages
Starting point is 00:37:56 You know escalated music Final Rolex hour final commercial free didn't feel like it was bombarded with commercials prior to the commercial free hour. It was a delightful watch. Channel changing was of course annoying having to watch the front nine of this of the final day on three different channels. That was of course the hour on USA Today is just one giant middle finger. I know it's an Olympic year and that's probably USA, not USA Today. Sorry USA. Yeah, an hour in a newspaper will be sick. Yeah, that's how it used to be. But I mean, you know, when we harped on like, especially what happened to KPMG last
Starting point is 00:38:30 year, like if it looked like it did today, we wouldn't have had a 15 minute segment ripping on it. Right. So any critiques I would have would be very minuscule to say like, hey, golf on TV looked like that. We would not complain about it. So I credit and salute NBC for their coverage of the US women's open
Starting point is 00:38:46 could use more TV hours could use more TV hours still. Yeah, the four to seven thing was kind of weird today too, like the felt you know, I will say price progress. They normally never nail the timing on the commercial free hour was great. They got the perfect hour window when like the golf was the best the most people were in it and things were kind of on a knife's edge. So great work there.
Starting point is 00:39:09 And I think we also have to like thank the USGA for putting real resources into this event. And I think that's where it's like, KPMG is wonderful, the KPMG Women's PGA Championship, but I think the PGA of America maybe can do a little bit more to elevate that event like the USGA has. I'm trying to be nice today, Sully. You're not gonna get me out of my good mood.
Starting point is 00:39:39 There is, of course, some comments rolling in. We should disclaim that we did do coverage a couple weeks ago for the PGA Championship with Omaha that was also on ESPN. So thank you for that. TC, you have three takes. Any on the women's side that we want to cue you up for? Now we're going to talk some RBC here in a second, but anything we need to get in there. No, part of it was going to be the venue stuff. So you kind of got one of my takes there. I did want to shout out Josh Saunders, the superintendent up there at Lancaster. You guys nailed it. Brilliant setup. It didn't embarrass anybody.
Starting point is 00:40:14 I think there's a good sign when the amateurs kind of get ejected after like, all right, you had your fun Thursday, Friday. You're're not gonna put four rounds together on this golf course without being one of the top players in the world. And sure enough, like, you know, that happens. So, so I'll also say USGA wise too, props to the USGA for not only the resources, but I think for stepping on some necks at Comcast NBC over the last six to eight months or you know probably longer than that and just being like hey guys come on. Let's wait for US men's right. That's the one where they flood with commercials because that's you know that's where all the all the revenue is they it was allegedly.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Tommy Roy got his toys this week. Yeah I'm not sure if he was producing this week. I don't know if he was either I was referencing you know he was. I would imagine he was. He knows all their biggest ones. But they did they had some wonderful drone shots you know, he was, I would imagine he was, you know, all their biggest ones. But they did, they had some wonderful drone shots, you know, they just had camera angles where, you know, if you, if you watch a lot of LPGA week to week, you know, even some of
Starting point is 00:41:12 these other majors, you're just like, yeah, we're not getting that anywhere else. But it was important to a course with that much land movement, like some of the camera angles I got from the fairways and stuff of those uphill shots into those greens, where you can only see the top of the flagstick like that's the whole deal, right? I mean, that's the whole the whole purpose of playing at a golf course like this and they captured that props to them for not You know props the USGA for not Wildly backing off of the setup. Yes after around one, you know, they stuck to their guns and all that I think
Starting point is 00:41:47 round one. They stuck to their guns and all that. I think also props to the USGA for their app. Their app was awesome this week. The online experience was kind of juxtaposed that with the PGA of America's app. I know it's tough. It's very resource intensive to build an app when you only have however many tournaments a year versus PGA Tour, PGA Tour or LPGA or whatever. But that was like, that's the gold standard other than the Masters of like, hey, ShotTracker, ShotTrails, all that stuff, all the content on the app was great. So lastly, KVV said they need some oil money in Central PA, you know, the Gap region just outside of Philadelphia there. in central PA, the gap region just outside of Philadelphia there. Word coming out over the last couple weeks,
Starting point is 00:42:27 they're discovering massive, massive lithium deposits in central PA. So just monitor that. So it could be a lithium revolution there and it could be more money there to subsidize some women's golf. I needed to, I feel like it'd be even better like in August, like it needed to take the place of the Evian, if anything, right? Of, you know, they got, I don't want to say this in April in
Starting point is 00:42:53 Pennsylvania, right? I don't want to say they got lucky with the weather, but you can get some bad northeastern springs that end up with a lot wetter than what they got this year right so yeah but you never know. What are we yeah can I bring up an image here and I what what what's the take here what's the take here on on the Charlie Hall images that have been absolutely being paraded around social media so far this week Randy is this the coolest thing ever because every time I open up Twitter it seems pretty fucking cool man. thing ever. Because every time I open up Twitter, it seems already fucking cool, man. Listen, I think there's a couple different questions being asked is it let me is Charlie Hall cool? Like, yes. Is her smoking
Starting point is 00:43:35 part of her coolness? I don't know. Like, your mileage can vary there. Do we see a lot of I think people go crazy for this stuff. One, you just don't see it as much on the women's side. Two, it's like very much a throwback. It's throwback to a bygone era, to a type of golf, to when golf was smaller and intimate and this traveling band of, it almost felt like a traveling circus, right?
Starting point is 00:44:02 Both on the women's and the men's side. It just, it harkens back to past days. And I think that's cool. Now, does golf like over hype and immediately overdo like any cool thing? Yes. So are we tired of it by Sunday? Of course.
Starting point is 00:44:20 It's, you know, it's Charlie smoking a cigarette, but I do want wanna say Charlie is awesome and that should not get lost in all of this. I agree with all of that big, all that to say, again, kids, smoking is bad. Don't do this. Charlie or your uncle Neil Schuster, don't be like that. I'm not gonna celebrate this one
Starting point is 00:44:44 because it's the lamest reaction ever on social media that bothers me like, let's not pretend smoking's cool. It's terrible to be around, it's bad for you, don't do it. We'd rather you vape, Charlie. I know she's smoking to quit vaping. I don't think that's the order of operations you're supposed to go here. Still a huge Charlie Hall fan,
Starting point is 00:45:00 but yeah, I'm very over this part of the chat. Charlie's great. I saw somebody slip her their number on the rope line, like dropped a piece of paper with her number. I'm going to text you or whatever sort of thing. So she's great. I think it's also about Charlie smoking and more about like Charlie just being a real human being.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Yeah, I think that's true. Being extremely relatable and just kind of normal person. So I got two more things I got to get off my chest on the ladies side before we go to my big board here. We got to raise the floor on these women's events, you know, where it's like, hey, if there's not crazy ratings this weekend, that's fine. But I think enough people, you pique their interest enough people watch, they tune back in next time. It's like you keep raising the floor. And then when you do have that Nelly major win next, or when you have that crazy playoff or crazy finish, there's going to be more people there for it. There's going to be more
Starting point is 00:46:02 infrastructure there for it. There's going to be a people there for it. There's going to be more infrastructure there for it. There's going to be just going to be a higher floor. Right. So that, and then I think the Thai women, what is up with this L being pronounced as N with Yubol versus Yubon? I don't, like in Tidakoon versus. Yeah. I just, I don't get it.'s just I don't get it like why can't we just spell it that way you're translating it from another language anyway why can't we just translate it into that spelling the phonetic spelling I'm looking for something to argue with you on TC tonight I'm not seeing it I'm right there with you let's shake that then change that then. Big Shot Bob, my guy, you have an apology. What would I be apologizing for?
Starting point is 00:46:50 Hypothetically, what would I be apologizing for? You shit on him for years. You said he wasn't a good golfer. I think those were like verbatim your words, pre-Rider Cup. Big Shot Bob, T.C. there's a problem. Big Shot Bob's not a very good golfer. He's not very good at golf.
Starting point is 00:47:04 I think those were your words. I mean, he's like an average tour pro. I'm there's a problem. Big Shot Bob's not a very good golfer. He's not very good at golf. I think those are your words. It's like he's like an average tour pro. I'm extremely happy for him. Can we start with the positive here? Like that was epic having his dad on the bag wins the RBC Canadian Open. Tears in their eyes. You know has a four shot lead. He's got to make last the entire final day. He seems like the realest dude like the most like normal guy maybe out there on tour, most down to earth. And just like, he probably said like eight times in that interview afterwards,
Starting point is 00:47:29 like I can't believe I did this with him on the bag. He kept kind of slagging off his dad. I don't know if he realized he was doing it, but I can't believe I did it with this guy on the bag. It was awesome. I was getting, I don't know, I don't wanna say I was, I wasn't crying in the club quite. I was close.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I was getting pretty emotional there down the end. So if you wanna start negative TC, that's on you. I'm excited for, uh, nothing but positivity for me. I'm just, I'm getting flooded with negativity about Bob's a fast player. I don't know what happened today. He was playing kind of slow today. Uh, things were moving quickly. He had the drone. There was, you know, I'm hearing all about this drone. What is going on? What are you have to say about the the drone? So we're still collecting more info. I don't think he said foreigners as we got to set the scene. Hold on. Josh Carpenter tweeted out, he said, big problem with Bobby Mack and the CBS drone. I'm not going to. He said, I'm not going to tell you again. I spoke to the rules official before. That's ridiculous. Uh, Nance said we're going to have to back the drone away from him
Starting point is 00:48:23 because he's hearing everything. Dottie said the drone's headed to the airport. And the one place you can't drone, Dottie, is the airport. You can't take it to the airport. And then, what did Adam Schupack's tweet say? I could pull it up here in a second. But he-
Starting point is 00:48:40 Yeah, pull that up, but yeah. He tweeted that Robert McAdar called a rules official over to help the drone, says, it's all I can hear. Also mentioned I'm a foreigner and I know they don't want me to win. Not sure about that, but evident the drone noises in his head. Uh, then he followed up and said to be clear on the drone, Bobby Mac explained politely several times that the drone was too close when it returned the CBS people inside the ropes all agreed with him that it was making too much noise. It was legit issue and understandable that he was bothered when it returned
Starting point is 00:49:09 Total vindication people were slagging him off on Twitter saying he was he was bitching. He was moaning He was not the guys trying to win his first PGA Tour event. Obviously he's nervous. He's got his dad on the bag He's getting all his own yardages. His dad's literally just carrying the bag. I felt bad for his dad today. He had to carry the stash bag. That's why he wasn't playing fast. Yeah, he was doing all the work. It's the cat like Bryson says, it's the caddies. He had to bring all his rain gear out. It was foggy, water on the clubface, all sorts of stuff. So no, I think it was his dad's the green keeper at Glenn Crutin in Oban, which is on the side of a freaking Hill mountain, like going down towards towards Oban Harbor.
Starting point is 00:49:52 It's, it's such a remote, I mean, it's, I think he practices when he's at home, he practices down at Loch Lomond, which is like an hour and a half, almost two hours each way. And he was just driving back and forth. And he just loves living in Oban that much. But I think it captures this really interesting, almost sad dichotomy of the sacrifices you have to make when you live somewhere like that to raise your game and be a world-class player.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Like he just moved to Orlando, which Bob, we gotta get you out of Orlando. Come up to Pontevedra, Jax Beach, go to Naples. You can go anywhere. Just don't be in Orlando. No reason for that. But he's talked a lot about how lonely it is on tour and how much he misses home. And he loves hanging out with his guys, loves playing Shinty over there, which I guess has been kind of an issue for him of like, hey, man, like you're going to get hurt. You're going to break your wrist playing Shinty. So but he's like, he seems like a like a real human being that, you know, just happens to
Starting point is 00:50:53 be really good at golf. And he seems like he's greater than the sum of his parts too. I mean, that wasn't an easy final round today. And he was he was all over the lot for a few holes there. And you know, I mean, stuff's on 18. I mean, that was that was an exclamation point. I was a little worried after after that putt went by there but uh now what a great I mean his dad seems like the man like his dad's first reaction was like I'm a I grow grass
Starting point is 00:51:16 grass grower like it's it was uh that was just a huge incredible story like it really is like it's so incredibly unlikely for your first pg8 tour when your dad on the bag that's not your caddy. Like But you know what? Maybe that's not like that kind of goes beyond the, you know, the stats and all that. Like that's hey, like that that counted for something, right? That counted for for something that goes well beyond the analytics and and you know, the
Starting point is 00:51:43 golf at hand. It's just a matter of like, hey, this is really, really, hold on, I got the franchise here. He's trying to- No, you want to sit there? No, no. Dad, say hi, say hi. We're talking about the franchise.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Hey guys, how you doing? It's the franchise, how we doing? We're talking about the pressure of dad's caddying. Yeah. Yeah, you want to talk about a dad caddy? That's, we don't need to go there. What incredible timing. But yeah, like, you know, I think there's something there with, hey, like, like, the issue wasn't a swing thing, or strategic thing, or an analytics thing. It was
Starting point is 00:52:18 just the dude was lonely, and he just didn't have any juice on the road, you know? So I think that's cool. And it's, it's cool to see him. It's cool to see good golfers from Scotland too, because as a country, these days Scotland punches well below its weight as far as professional golf. But I think part of that is because they're almost like they're really good golfers. They're not really good professional golfers, because golf and professional golf are two radically different things at this point. Totally. And that's where any slagging off I've done of Bob is more of a reflection of what the pro golf game is like versus like him in particular right he's not the best ball striker and it's you know about hitting it high hitting it soft and shaping all these different
Starting point is 00:52:55 shots that I don't necessarily think he I mean he putted his ass off this week he's number one in strokes game putting and you know that that's what led to this victory I think he'd be better off with different playing styles that required more creativity and kind of fit more in line with how he plays the game versus how the PGA Tour game is played. So I'll stand by my takes on that, on status of his game. And that's not me slagging him off.
Starting point is 00:53:18 It's just to say, like, pro golf is this thing. Like, it's what it is. And it's as well-documented over the last 10 years, we're not liking the trend of where it's heading of what the skills are required of being tested. So thank you TC, that's very big. Shout out to Foxy as well. I know you hated seeing that too.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Another proper golfer guy just, you know, he plays fast. He is like bombing, he is like the Ryan Brim of New Zealand, TC. He is like the bomb dude that you should wanna hate. He hits all the Ryan Brim of New Zealand, T.C. He is like the bomb dude that you should. You should want to hit all the shots. He may be he's super long, but he shapes the ball. Oh, cool. I still remember him shaping a shot into 11 at Augusta this year.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Yeah, it was so sick. So, you know, like by all accounts, like the man, like one of the nicest guys on the planet. So Foxy might be the next Blandy here in like the next whatever 10 years. I don't know how old Foxy is. I need to look that up. I'd love to see, you know, the cleat.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Well, so that's a great, that's a great, great segue to my next topic. Before we get any farther, can, you know, we were supposed to, this is on me. We should have done this before we left the LPGA segment. But Randy, will you give a shout out to our friends at Yeti for us as well for all the support of the LPGA content they've given us? My gosh, Sully, I thought you'd never ask. No, in all honesty, shout out Yeti. They have
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Starting point is 00:55:42 and also the LPGA Tour coverage. TC, we got, you know, obviously a lot of questions came in. One of them came from Roger Azarian. Will TC apologize, of course, for Fleetwood's final round? I will, actually very uncharacteristic for Tommy to fade on Sunday like that. Normally he fades on Saturday and then gets back into the mix on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:56:05 So I will not apologize. You know, I think he finished T25 or something like that, but not his weekend, but you know, he continues to play high level golf and he's trending for for Pinehurst and Trune, which are truly the only thing that matters because listen, again, this isn't, this is a one stop national open. It's going back to a non-national open next year, the
Starting point is 00:56:30 Canadian open. Like the Hamilton was awesome. What a great venue. I think it was great to watch all week, just very agnostic as far as what type of player. You got Rory McIlroy up there. You got Ryan Fox. you got Ben Griffin on the other side of things. Zach Blair played well. I mean, Ben Griffin shot 65, 65, 65 and didn't win. Right in Mackenzie Hughes' face. Hamilton was awesome. I think it makes up for Oakdale or whatever the place they played last year was dog shit. And you know, I think I would like to see them go back to Hamilton more often. So unfortunately next year, it sounds like the TPC,
Starting point is 00:57:09 Toronto, Osprey, Valley, there's three courses up there. They're not playing one of the good courses. It sounds like, which is unfortunate. So. Seems on brand. Let's see what else. Oh, Randy, I was gonna have a great segue into, you brought up Blandy. Yeah. to shout out Laurie Cantor, who won on the European Tour on that literal
Starting point is 00:57:32 circus course in Germany. I don't know if you guys saw the Ferris wheel behind the 18th green. Almost spun one back into the water on 18, but I think it was his 140 something start on the DP World Tour. And he finally got it done and he seems like a pretty thoughtful, good human being. And I know Eddie Pepper was tight with him. Anybody that's good with him. I saw Richie Ramsey was pretty chuffed as well.
Starting point is 00:58:02 You can tell, the guys that I like out there were pretty jacked up about this. So, and you know what, Laurie? Once a clique, always a clique. Yeah, once a clique, always a clique. He was on the cliques. He's been on the cliques, he's been on the Majestics, and then he's been a wild card with ThinLiv. And now he's the DP World Tour winner. What a circuitous route to that. So just wanted to holler there. And then also, Sally, I wanted to congratulate you on Tom Kim, the international superstar. Great final round today. Global superstar.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Yeah, global superstar. Corey Conner said one of the worst outfits I've ever seen anywhere. The black shoes, black pants, red shirt, red hat was just take it all away. And then what else I got? Oh, last thing, longest day in golf tomorrow. I talked to Zach earlier. Zach's. That's not after the Memorial? Not anymore. No, they so yeah. So Memorial is they bumped up. So Zach's still playing down in Springfield. So I was like, dude, I was like, how are you like, how are you getting from Toronto to Springfield? And he's like, dude, we're dry. Honestly, yeah, it's dry. Yeah, it's like six hours. I was like, are you going through Buffalo? Are you going through Detroit? But he I think they're going through Detroit and then down 75. But a lot of travel for these guys tonight and then 36 holes tomorrow
Starting point is 00:59:25 all over the country. So it's, you know, I think for all the stuff that I hate about pro golf right now, like the sectional qualifying or final qualifying or whatever they call it these days, like somewhat makes up, it's a nice little one, one day antidote to all that of like, Hey, it's still a meritocracy. You can still go earn it. You can still, you know, the dream's still alive, right? And for those that have been reaching out,
Starting point is 00:59:50 wondering if I will be participating in sexual qualifying, I barely missed a bunch of lip outs in my qualifier and my local qualifier here in Jackson. I was just 11 shots shy at the playoff, but I, you know, just bad side of the draw really and some luck that didn't go my way. But well, there's always next year. We're going to keep fighting. We're going to keep fighting.
Starting point is 01:00:07 You had some dudes in that, in that local. That was tough to walk down that range and be like, oh, Luke Guthrie. All right. There's one spot. There's Jason Gore. He's almost one of us open. There's another spot. It's, yeah, it's, this would not be the right place to actually try to qualify out of, but I, I'm not good enough to justify being able to travel to. How'd your club championship go this weekend? You know, TC, I got runner up, second place. It was a very deep field, so I'm really proud of that runner up. But four, I lost by three and I hit four balls OB. I had a 73 with three out of bounds balls in round one. It was some of the best golf I could have played, but just can't keep the ball in play.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Turns out it's an important skill. Hate it. We had a great question from Tyler Munson 7. You want to know how bad Monty would have had it with drones? That was that would have got a good rise out of me today. Which hey, you know what, drones are, there's some concerns about these drones generally speaking, right? DJI is in the crosshairs of the US government right now. Hey, maybe the Chinese are scraping some of the, hopefully the Chinese like golf courses because they're getting a lot of golf course footage. Same with the Osmo Pocket, right? Hopefully they like our B-roll stuff from Taurusos too. That's all I got guys.
Starting point is 01:01:22 All right. We might need to send Sean Martin next year to find this rogue drone operator, write up the story. Yeah. Other news this week, Eamonn Lynch had a great interview with Joe Ogilvie, just talking all things,
Starting point is 01:01:37 PGA Tour, PGA Tour Enterprises, Saudi, PIF, negotiations, all kinds of things. Honestly, I was gonna try to pull some nuggets from it, but it's, just read the whole context of it. It's on golfweek.com and there's nothing- It's pretty substantive. Yeah, nothing groundbreaking, nothing astonishing there. Just kind of speaking on individual roles
Starting point is 01:01:54 of individual people, where things stand, what the future might look like, how things are flowing. It's about as good of a look in as we've gotten in on everything. It basically also says in there, we're gonna have something done in the next four months. It's how I read at least one, the one part of it is he specifically called out four months of like, judge us then at that point I guess. That was my, my big takeaway is we're four months, 2026 being kind of the year that things will actually change versus you know next year kind of moving some puzzle pieces around
Starting point is 01:02:27 and moving some dominoes around, but not really. And then some support of Monahan, kind of surprising amount of positivity from him with Monahan, which, you know, I thought Ogilvy was like top of the heap as far as like, he was, we were locked up as far as the Monahan hate from everything everything I've heard so that was a bummer man that ruined TC Sunday it's like I got I gotta come in to talk about this anything else we want a shout out or visit we didn't we didn't go well are you will you let TC and I go
Starting point is 01:03:01 down the leaderboard a little bit? A hundred percent. Absolutely. All right. Uh, well let's, yeah. Are you ready to go down the leaderboard? No, no, I am. I am. Do you want to do it, Randy? I think you should do it and I'll. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Yeah. I got it up to you. See, let me, let me lead it. Well, I mean, of course we, we got to mention so many big names missing the cut, uh, Nelly quarter at the top of that list. If, if you have been under a rock all week, she made a 10 on her third hole of the tournament, shot an 80 in the first round and missed the cut.
Starting point is 01:03:31 She was one of many big names, but we had some. I hadn't even turned it on yet. I was running a couple errands, I had a coffee. I hadn't even woken up yet. I was in line to get coffee and I spout sit down for a coffee meeting for like an hour and she made a 10. I was like, what the hell? I thought I could at least catch her at the turn. Yeah, we mentioned
Starting point is 01:03:49 Ali Ewing. Awesome, awesome weekend. 68-66, very strong. That will go a long way I imagine to Solheim Cup consideration. She's usually in that captain's pick mix. So it feels like, yeah, it feels like Ali and, and uh, Andrea are like no brainers, like pencil them in now. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And also, um, Olympic qualifying as well. I mean, I don't, I don't know what those things look like, but yeah, it's going to be tough for, I think for Ali especially to, to jump up enough. Um, I, I want to, well, I want to say her name one more time. Wachani Mikhai.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Mechai. Mechai. What's the name? Wachani Mechai. Listen, she shot 77 today, but she ends up tied for six. I was so impressed with her Saturday 69. Honestly, I thought she was gonna shoot over 75 yesterday. She had a great third round, a tough one here on Sunday,
Starting point is 01:04:48 but an awesome result for her. And then a tie at Titicum, a third tie woman. She was also tied for six. She went 68, 68 this weekend. She's kind of a top 10 machine. We need her to start events a little bit better, but good to see a tie at Titicum and then out of the top ten three Japanese women other than the top two the five total in the top ten and
Starting point is 01:05:14 Ayaka food away just really solid these A little bit the majors this might be Fleetwood right now. I know I'm not sure where her game is gonna get a win. It just feels like she's bumping up against her ceiling but maybe that's a take I'm gonna regret somewhat soon. Crazy high floor though. Yeahouche is going to slide in with all sorts of pronunciation guides as well. He had like six in a row last night afterwards. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Shout out to all the Japanese ladies. It it's, it was disciplined and, and shout out to anybody that went under par today.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Like you could, there was no faking it. You had to just, you had it like masterclass in iron play, and then you're going to have to make, make a few putts as well. Yeah. So, um, which I was going to say Hannah green, uh, tied with Ali Ewing for the round of the day, 66, she ends up tied for 16th, really good showing. I want to shout out, of course, Charlie Hall gets a top 20. She had a very good weekend.
Starting point is 01:06:32 I want to shout out a few women though, kind of in that tied for 20, 30 range. Sophia Popov, good to see her back after a long maternity leave. She finished tied for 26. Pia Badnik was somebody I tweeted about Thursday. So Pia Badnik was legitimately struggling to break 80 late in the year of last year on the ladies European tour. For her to come out and shoot 70 on Thursday in
Starting point is 01:06:57 those conditions, she struggled in her second round, but she ends up tied for 29th for the event, a great result for her. And then Kristen Gilman, who is a two-time US Am champion, like the can't miss amateur for a while. She finished tied for 36, a pretty good result from her. She's back on the LPGA tour. So I thought that was a good result. TC, any kind of, as we go down the board, of course we had three low AMs. They all tied. Astrick, Talley, Megan Scofield, and Catherine
Starting point is 01:07:31 Park all finished tied for 44th at 12 over. Our girl Gabby Ruffles, a little disappointing. She finished tied 51. Yeah. Amelia Garvey, she was T58, kind of expecting good things from her. Alexandra Forserling, you'll probably be seeing her at Robert Trent Jones for the Solheim Cup on the European side. She kind of fell off after a strong first 18. But yeah, otherwise, I think the one that I can't really figure out, you know, we've been talking about it since Solheim Cup is Celine this felt like it would have been a pretty strong layout for for Celine just as far as precision play and
Starting point is 01:08:13 accurate driving and It can't can't really put my finger on because she was playing some of the best golf of anybody in the world last year And it has really fallen off a little bit since then. Can I ask a question a lot of people are asking? I'm counting two Americans in the top 35 of the United States Open Championship United States Women's Open Championship What's what could what the rationale possibly be here and is this a cause cause for concern? I Don't really think it's a new thing either. I mean that that's it, but that's a very low number I know that they are not the dominant country in women's golf, but like that is a shockingly low number. It kind of reminds me of like the, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:50 US men's tennis for 12 or 15 years there until Roddick came along, you know, it just kind of, there was that middle ground there. They were just like, man, who's going to step up and fill these shoes. And beyond Nellie, it's just a revolving door. Like, you know, Lexi didn't really meet her expectations or anyone's expectations for her. Danielle Kang, I mean, good on Danielle for making the cut this week. She's playing pretty well. And yeah, yeah. Yeah. But she's had injury stuff. You know, obviously,
Starting point is 01:09:22 obviously, Lillia lacks the most important ability right now. That's the big one. Yeah, Lillia Vu being hurt, that stinks. Nellie obviously missing the cut, but it's all you're right. Not a banner week. Rose, I think Rose is a tough one. She looks so good. What was that?
Starting point is 01:09:39 Three weeks ago, had to withdraw then the next week from Mizuho. I don't think it was as simple as like a stomach bug from stuff that we've heard. I think there's maybe a little bit, there's a medical issue there. I don't want to speculate because I do not know, but a disappointing week for Rose as well. So it's like when those three best Americans, Lillia wasn't even here. Nellie obviously had a disaster Thursday and Rose just wasn't right. Yeah, it set a bad tone for the Americans. I'm counting 12. Excuse me.
Starting point is 01:10:13 I'm counting 12 women in the top 35 of the 2022 U.S. Women's Open, seven last year and two this year. Like that's a sharp drop off in just a three year span. I don't know if I would- That said, I do think there's, I think it's a pretty strong crop of juniors in the pipeline right now and collegiate players. Like there's some, I mean, Catherine Park,
Starting point is 01:10:37 I'm buying stock on her. She's got a great career ahead of her, people like that. But yeah, no, there's just a lot of inconsistency. It jives with the Solheim Cup too. They haven't won a Solheim Cup since 2017, I believe. Also, I'd love to shout out Andrea Lee. I mean, T15, T20, T3, the last three US Women's Opens. That's greatly outranking her productivity so far
Starting point is 01:11:03 on the LPGA Tour. That's three top 20s in a row, including a top five. Yeah, she's someone who, yeah, I think kind of conversely to the difficult setups and all that, I think the easy setups hurt her just as much as anybody on the LPGA, where it washes out some of her accuracy off the tee and the good putting and all of that, where you make it tougher to make putts
Starting point is 01:11:28 and you make it tougher to hit fairways and she's gonna outrank everybody if you make those two things important. I need to go watch her play around the golf in person. Like I think I could learn so much from just watching the way she like navigates the ball. She's like Greg Maddux. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Kind of how I want to play golf. I'll never be able to putt like she does, but got it. It just looks like she's hitting those little fairway finders off the tee. It's, she's not playing a power game by any means. All right. I think we're going to move to rap
Starting point is 01:12:01 unless you guys have anything else. Sorry, I got one more thing. Just breaking across the wire. Esther Henselet just posted on Instagram. She's of course a German player, LPGA. She missed the cut this week. I got home, we got to the next stop. American Airlines destroyed her golf bag.
Starting point is 01:12:18 So I just wanted to offer my condolences and some Ts and Ps there. And then also want to shout out a Japanese winner on the corn fairy tour today, which is very, very unique thing. They don't get a whole lot of Japanese guys playing the corn fairy tour, much less winning out there. So Mr. Onishi props to him, Kaido Onishi. And he won, it was a proper setup this week too. I mean it was like minus eight one, which that's unheard of on the Corn Fairy Tour. Truly, I don't know if I've ever heard of that. Minus eight winning on the Corn Fairy Tour. We have a lot of shows coming up, a lot of content coming up. We are rolling right into Memorial Tournament Week. We'll have a happy hour show at 4 p.m. Eastern Time. This coming Wednesday, we'll have a live show
Starting point is 01:13:09 on Sunday night as well. The LPGA is heading up to New Jersey for the ShopRite. Liv is back, the Kleeks of course are back this week at Houston. What, H-Town? At Golf Club of Houston. What's the Swamp Pass situation in Houston right now, TC? Oh, I don't even wanna know how high. I gotta go to Fort Worth next weekend and I'm dreading it. Club of Houston. What's the swamp at situation in Houston right now TC? Oh I
Starting point is 01:13:25 don't even want to know how how high I gotta go to Fort Worth next weekend and I'm dreading it it's gonna be low 90s and crazy humid so we have so I'm oh my god I'm seeing highs of 97 94 94 for the three days. I think we're short so I think we're good. That's a good that's a really good point. Humidity yeah up in the 88% as well so that should be fun. Season finale of Taurus Sauce season 9 will be this Wednesday at 9 p.m. Eastern Time. It's Kinks and Heath. Don't spoil who's in the championship match in case anybody hasn't been. You've got a whole week. No you don't. You have a couple days to binge watch the whole season to catch
Starting point is 01:14:05 the finale live on our YouTube channel 9pm Eastern Time on Wednesday shout out to our sponsors precision pro for bringing season nine of Tora sauce to life. It's been great. It's been a lot of fun. We appreciate it. The feedback from everybody. It's a great episode. So yeah, KVV is gonna have a gamer up. He's gonna write about, I imagine, Yuka and Lancaster as a whole. So be sure to check out nolayingup.com. What else?
Starting point is 01:14:34 TC and I are gonna be chopping on the trap draw this week. So you can check that out. We'll have- Yeah, Big and I are playing some golf this week together. That's exciting. We'll have at least one, perhaps two US Open previews of some kind ahead of next, the following weeks US Open at Pinehurst.
Starting point is 01:14:53 We did a little deep dive into the past three Pinehurst US Opens that'll either be out Tuesday or Thursday depends on we potentially have an interview coming out hopefully on Tuesday that I think we'll probably publish first with it. Should be a very interesting guest that I think we'll probably publish first with. Should be a very interesting guest. I think people will be extremely interested to hear that interview.
Starting point is 01:15:09 And I'm stoked for Pinehurst, man. I mean, just generally speaking, doing some prep and watching some of 99, some of 05, and a lot of the Chimer 114. And even though it kind of gets washed over as a blowout, and I think history kind of looks kindly on it. I think they've beefed up some stuff as far as some of the waste areas and all of that, making it a little bit more penal. But that Thursday, it hadn't rained yet. It rained overnight Thursday into Friday.
Starting point is 01:15:40 But that Thursday, there's poofs of dust coming up when people had irons and it was good viewing. It was really, really good setup. Kind of quickly before we wrap here, just look at the weather run up the next couple weeks at Pinehurst. Looking like potential for some storms a little bit this week, but doesn't look too drastic. Should be in decent shape going into the following week. You guys want to see what Neil worked on all day yesterday? I do rearrange he rearranged all the rocks back there with my
Starting point is 01:16:12 dad. He's pretty like seven or eight hours. Oh god, he was Susan and all sorts of pictures through to the slack. All right, we are going to move to rap. I want to thank everyone for tuning in. Thanks for tuning in Friday night. Thanks to Marina Alex and Jane Park as well. They joined our show on Friday. They were fantastic. They've a lot of people calling for Marina and Jane,
Starting point is 01:16:34 the podcast of their own, which we may have created a monster with those two. They were awesome. Well, Jane's in for KPMG week. We're going to definitely try to get her on the show Friday and she's already texting me ideas about who she can get to come with her. Because Maria is gonna be competing.
Starting point is 01:16:52 So it's gonna be Jane and, yeah. And just to give people, again, if you don't keep these schedules right in front of you, like we do, we are going Memorial Signature event here, rolling right to the US Open, which rolls right into a Signature event the Travelers and also that is KPMG Women's PGA Week so we are going to be pumping out the content subscribe on YouTube follow you know subscribe on your podcast give us five stars give us the thumbs all that we're gonna be creating
Starting point is 01:17:19 a lot of content also shout to Jordan Perez who's been running the ones and twos tonight behind the scenes as Cody is out this week. Cody's at the kingdom, the one in Orlando, not the one overseas. Cody's working harder than we are. Not the one out in Carlsbad either. Yeah, not that one. So thank you everyone for tuning in. We'll see you back here plenty of times in the coming weeks and we'll catch you at happy hour on Wednesday. Thanks so much for tuning in. Cheers. Crack on! Thank you Lancaster!

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