No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 851 - Memorial Recap, June 6 a year later, and The Cleeks

Episode Date: June 10, 2024

Scottie Scheffler does it again. We discuss his 5th win in 8 starts, what it means for U.S. Open week, the state of signature events, TC's Cleeks getting it done in Houston, the events of June 6, 2023 and everything that's followed, and a ton more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club. Be the right club today. Yes! Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different? Better than most! Expect anything different? Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up live show presented as always by our friends at high noon.

Solly here, the Pyman is back. Hello, Mr. Pyman. Greetings guys. Solly, thank you for having me on your program. Excited to be with you on what was an eventful week of golf. Great to see you guys. Eventful week of golf, a lot of golf, a lot to talk about this week, heading into a major championship next week as well. Icarito, Neil Schuster, the czar is here as well. Hello Neil, how are you?

Gentlemen, fantastic being with you. I'm playing on the road from the farmhouse, but we're doing it live literally tonight fired up Let's go a lot of miles being accumulated by the by the squad this week a lot of travel a lot of weddings a lot of A lot of personal vacations Cody's back running the ones and twos tonight After taking the kids on a memorable vacation as well But the moment everyone has been waiting for is finally here the high noon pool pack It's back grab a, text the group,

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Buddy believe no, no one wanted to ride with me on that one. Scotty Sheffield of course wins the memorial. Linnea Strom shoots his final round 60 to win on the LPGA Tour from 52nd place. We're gonna talk about that. I believe Liv just wrapped Carlos Ortiz and the Kleeks won. Wow. Massive, massive result for TC squad. Lynn Grant shot a final round 65 to win the Volvo Scandinavian mix to hunt down Sebastian Soderbergh. That's a wild sentence. He shot a final round 65 to win the Volvo Scandinavian mix to hunt down Sebastian Soderberg. That's a wild sentence he shot a final round 77 that happened Ryan Gerard won the BMW charity Pro-Am and There's in the world Cassie Porter won the Firekeepers Casino Hotel Championship. We're gonna talk memorial We're gonna talk a little live little DP World Tour LPGA. We're gonna talk we're gonna revisit the events of June 6th

Just what's happened over the past year. A lot of comments. Strong's wedding, what? A lot of comments coming out this past week. Adam Schupack, of course, talking to the Mules, we got that. We're gonna, at the end we're gonna open up a commentator sweepstakes. I feel like we envisioned this when we started

doing the live shows and we have not followed up on doing it, but just throw in as many questions as you want, we'll get to as many as possible. No time to prepare for them at all. Kind of a fun little grab back at the end. But what could go wrong there? That is the run of show. If you did not get to catch the end of the memorial,

first of all, Scottie open 67, 68, has a three shot lead Saturday afternoon as he gets to the ninth. He's probably about minus 400 to win the tournament. He dead yanks one left, lost ball, makes a triple bogey, get back into a tie for the lead with Adam Hadwin. At this moment, I was in North Carolina this past week, which is of course a FanDuel allowed state.

I was like, let's just check what his odds are currently. He went all the way down to minus 120 when he was tied for the lead on Saturday. Your boy could not have pounced on that any faster or any harder than I did. Again, of course, he ended the day with a four-shot lead despite the triple bogey on Saturday. He went down to what? Minus what? Minus 120. Oh my gosh. Yeah, what a heady play. Right? I mean, it was free money. It was absolutely. Yeah, it was incredible. Classic. Strokes can't approach. You get to see the having here over the last 45 minutes. Strokes can approach for the first three days, second, third, and first.

He would go out in a 1 over 37 on Sunday, but would proceed to hit what I think I called a sociopathic shot at the pin on 12. But Morikawa, Colin Morikawa playing with him, poured in a long birdie putt from deep It's got he missed his putt so the lead was just one Leaving the 12th green and Scott he missed a short kind of shaky putt there on the 13th And then lift a birdie on the 15th, but more cow had a chance to tie him But badly missed a six-foot or more cow had a great putting week But missed a couple key putts there on the back nine on Sunday on the 16th hole the freshly redesigned But somehow still playing the on the 16th hole, the freshly redesigned, but somehow still playing the exact same 16th hole.

Scottie played outright and then drained a bomb par putt to stretch the lead to two. He'd make a bogey on 17 to cut the lead to one, drove in the fairway on 18 as Morikawa drove in the bunker. They both went long, had difficult up and downs. Morikawa got it inside Scottie, but Scottie had four feet nine inches from above the hole and poured it in, got cow got it inside Scotty, but Scotty had four feet, nine inches from above the hole and poured it in, got the coolest handshake in golf is greeted with his wife and baby

on the side of the green. Uh, and of course wins for the fifth time in his last eight starts. It's a lot of wins. Always cool. Always cool as well to see the, uh, ceremonial Muirfield village chip off to end the tournament as we, as we seem to see every every year just oh and everyone trickles just into the rough here on 18. That seems to happen every time but I thought Trevor said it just expertly at

the end. I mean what what more can you say about Scotty at this point but he kind of rattled off he's like the guy has won at Bay Hill sawgrass Masters Harbertown and now Muirfield Village in the last like four months. That's like a career for somebody. Like if somebody, if you offered that career to somebody, they would be like, Oh my God, I'd never got this far in my dreams. Scotty has done it in his last, what eight starts. He just said, I mean, it's just And multiple times that every one of those, I guess, Heritage and Memorial first time,

but one, the other three multiple times. I mean, are you kidding? He's got a thing for legacy. Those are all legacy, a lot of prestige. Even before we declared them SIG events, they were a big deal. They've been a big deal for the past 20 years. So that's incredible.

A lot of clothing associated with a lot of those as well. He's got a pretty freaking full closet at this point. Without thinking about this too much, don't put too much thought into this. Remind me to circle back on that. Okay. Don't think about this too much. If I was to ask you how much money has Scottie Scheffler earned on the course so far this year? $19 million. On the course? I'm going gonna go a little lower like 13 million so close to 24 million so far on the course Jesus really this is Jason so

yeah I guess yeah he's winning four million dollars for these he's averaging 1.8 million per start so far in 2024 it's it's it's absolutely ridiculous. That's what was kind of funny when like the when the live money really started getting splashed around and then the tour purses go up like crazy. It was kind of funny to see like the like who was looking around the corner in the right way and who was looking around the corner in the wrong way, where it's like, oh, I mean, all these purses are going up like crazy. Like as long as you're just like beat the shit out of everybody every week,

like you're going to make just as much money as as those live guys. For Scotty, it's like, yeah, I mean, as long as you're just like beat the shit out of everybody every week, like you're gonna make just as much money as those live guys. For Scotty, it's like, yeah, I mean, as long as you're just like the best player of your generation by like a mile, like you're gonna be making the same amount as, you know, Richard Bland and like some of those guys over there.

It's really funny. He finished the week with 13 strokes gained approach for the total week. Second was Adam Hadwin at 7.5. Uh, no one else had more than, uh, than 5.1. So he had more than double strokes gained approach. The third guy on the list, which was Justin Thomas this past week. I mean, we might have to start monitoring which players Ted Scott is going to be ahead of on the money list, right?

That's probably what like 2.4. Well, so let's call it be conservative. $2 million. He's put away this year. So far outside of the chip in money that he has to give back to Scotty. So we'll call it 1.9, right? And I don't know if he gets pro rated down

because he missed that day at the PGA as well. Sure. So that's why I have to look at the money list. Or you know. He might make the tour championship on his own. I think he's going to be top. Last I'd looked and done the math He was like top 40 on PJ tour earnings for this year. He's got to be inching closer. I mean he made you know What's what's three six another 360 K today as well?

It's it's it's pretty friggin absurd. Have you guys come up with any different ways to we've we said this last time Hey, we got to come up with a different way to talk about how good Scottie is you guys come up with anything I got nothing other than I got a bunch of questions still to answer I got something I got so I got an analogy for you know you know how I like that you know I Scotty he reminds me it's gonna sound very stupid but he reminds me of water he's just it's not flashy it's fluid but it's just it's it is just where's everybody down the way that the energy it took for like Colin to make that putt on 12. You referenced the 12th hole today.

It's like Scotty is just relentlessly putting the ball inside 10 feet. And even when he's missing those putts, it's just like another wave's coming right after it. Another one's coming. And it's just, it's like, he just wears people down. It's, it's, you can't fight off, like water's, water's powerful, baby. Water's scary.

It's not flashy though. He's not fire. He's not burning the place down. It's just really, really methodical. And over time, I've started to really appreciate it much more. Are we- Why do you start calling him Bruce Lee?

Are we- Yeah. Are we experiencing, is this a tsunami then? Like is that what this is? Start to feel like one, I mean, I don't know. We might have to take that offline and workshop it a little bit, Dej. Yeah, I gotta, let me think on that.

Let me think on that. I did want to circle back, Saul, you mentioned the clothing. I don't know why it's taking me this long to realize. Thank you, Cody. I don't know why it's taking me this long to realize this, but the gray jackets stink. Get those out of here.

I had that in my notes too, Dej. Really? Especially with the yellow shirts. I know what we're trying to do, but it's just not really playing for me. I think there was a time where a country club jacket was an unironic expression of like community. I think that time's passed and it's pretty clearly

an outrageous thing to do to like wear a jacket like with your secret club and like its patch on it, which is why I respect like Colonial Harbor Town, some of these places are like, we're gonna make the jacket so outrageous that like it's okay, like it's, you know, it's kind of a bit, it's like the Shriner's hats or something, you know, it's like, ah, come it's it's a pretty dumb like made-up club thing and the

memorial stuff just they try to make it look too normal and too like it's just a sorry i'm sorry it's very Dublin Ohio just very repressed we're gonna do it but we're not really gonna do it it's just it's it's disgusting take it away those are not it's not my people just the record. I'm not a not a not a Muirfield Village member growing up but thank you. I had it in my notes that it should be more of a houndstooth. You got to have a pattern. It has to be exactly what you said like it has to be. Used to be seersucker. That was great. Yeah, it's got to be a statement and the gray is just like it's yeah it feels like an afterthought.

And then Willie Lovman shit. Yeah, and paired with the gold, it just feels really tired. And I don't like that, because you know, Jack's getting old, so it's like, oh man, that doesn't look very good in the booth. I'm not really vibing with it.

And I even could get down on the CBS jackets, are like the classic, you know, they're similar, but at least those are dark. And for whatever reason, the dark makes more sense for me. Thank you guys for that. Simon Lamson asking a question, and I should have left. This is kind of your, he's on your block here, Neil. So if you want to give him a little jab here

to make sure he stays off your block. Over-under total wins for Scottie this year, six and a half. So that'd be one and a half more for the remainder of this year. Of this season or this year. I uh they're kind of the same thing right so we've got at least six what do you think he plays eight more times we got three free playoff events we got two more majors two majors another siggy after uh after or Sigi after, you know, probably six or seven times more, I would think.

Okay, so they win half those. I'm counting probably more tournaments. Are we counting the Olympics? Has anybody in the world of golf talked about the Olympics yet? Do we know who's on the team? No, I don't know who's on the team. Is this an Olympic year?

Allegedly. Yeah, just anyways, put that aside as well. Just hadn't haven't thought about that even in the slightest. But I was I was flying through Paris on the way back from Scandinavia. I was like, oh, right. The Olympics are here. Like, is anybody going to the Olympics? Who's on the team? Is Max going to be like an Olympian? Should ask him about that anyways.

I say I qualify. Yeah, I'm going to go. I think Simon said a good line here, but I'm going to go over. I think he to go. I think Simon said a good line here, but I'm going to go over. I think he wins twice. I feel like he's going to clip a playoff event or he'll be so far up in the FedEx Cup. He wins the tour championship. That's like, right. So that's why you always count on that one. Cause he's going to start with such a head start. You can only be so far up, but right with the strokes, but giving him a head start seems bad for the field.

Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I mean, yeah, we, I think I don't even need to ask this. We think he's probably going to get one of the last two majors, right? I don't think you get anybody sitting here. I don't put words in your mouth. I'm not betting against it. He's going to get one of the next remaining two majors. I think he's obviously, I think he's going to win next week.

Which one, if you had to, if you had a coin flip, if you could only pick them for one, he's going to win a one and done. Cool. I think US Open. I mean, the way he plays when it gets really tough, the approach game, it looks really nice for Pinehurst. I mean, the way he drives it straight down the fucking middle every hole looks really good at Pinehurst.

You're on the wrong block for whether or not, what the scouting is for next week for Pinehurst. What is the Pinehurst Police Department up to next week is probably the only potential that's the only potential That's the only course set up. You know, what is the what's the credentialing like to get on site is the only remaining question I think for next week. I well it's an anchor site So I got to think that their their logistics are dialed Cody. Can you feel better about it? What are you sure you sure you want What are you sure you sure you want me? Yeah, you know, I want you in here.

Hey, what are they going to? What are they going to do? What's completely blown out of proportion last time? Go ahead. What's going to be the biggest issue is the big roundabout there on Highway 2? No, because the traffic. So they hold them out by Sandhills Community College out by the airport or they go all the way west out by Taylor town. So you don't really get traffic inside the village or the cross section of Southern Pines.

Kind of sucks, but there's going to be a lot of buses and it's just going to be slow, be uber slow. But overall traffic wise, it's pretty well taken care of. I was just down there last month and I, and they're doing so much infrastructure stuff as an anchor site, which talking to the USGA allows these courses to put the investment in. And they're using the racetrack. They got the racetrack.

They got a lot of extra space with the other courses. They'll be using number one to park cars and stuff, too. By racetrack, it's a harness horse racetrack. Very, very small. So don't get that blown out of proportion. It's not Talladega down there, but. No, no, you're right. You're right.

They have space though, that's what I'm saying. We'll get to this a little bit later on. One of the most overrated restaurants in town, the Track Restaurant. Anybody going to bring it up? I didn't want to blow this up. Don't go there, all right? I blame it on these guys.

It's a greasy spoon. It can't be that bad. Come on, I had a good meal there. That's, we'll take that offline. I will say this, between More County PD and everything else they have going around there, I think they're just so used to having like big events. I think they'll be somewhat taken care of,

unless, I don't know, somebody tried to go backwards around the roundabout, that would be interesting. Maybe somebody tries to attack those, what's the protective woodpeckers? Yeah, there you go. Or maybe one of those massive black squirrels around the roundabout that would be interesting. Maybe somebody tries to attack those uh protective woodpeckers. Yeah there you go. Or maybe one of those massive black squirrels tries to get on somebody who knows. Do we know what kind of crazy things happen? What's the value of the pants that the Pinehurst policeman wear? Is it over under maybe that's is it over under 80 dollars? I think it's an important question. Probably better on our list for the preview. A couple more Scotty

questions. I feel like this is the, you can put some of these things to the test. Boxing fan 3333, can we admit Scheffler is better than 2015 Spieth? I say that to say like this is the best player we've seen in our time doing this. Like we started the podcast in 2014. Tiger has never been that version of Tiger.

There's no version of Tiger that we've seen that has been better than this. No version of any player that we've seen has been anything like this. Jason Day had a crazy run at one point, but did not have the start, the finishes in between and that's like the sustainability over spanning like three years now to support this. Like this is a total freak. Like I think he he's on the way to having a better career than Phil like I would be stunned if he doesn't have more than six

majors and more wins than Phil Mickelson had in his career which is like the better comp for him than Tiger but that's kind of where we're at right now I mean so I'll do it for you almost going you know with the with the strokes gained 2015 speed versus Scotty right, it's like almost a full shot better. Like literally every day they show up to the golf course, it's almost a full shot better. It's just, again, it's like we going back to, you know, whatever that was a couple of months ago,

we were talking about like finding the batting average or the OPS or whatever for some of these guys to just illustrate it. It's like strokes gain is the closest we have. Just imagine those two guys get out of the car, assuming they both get to the golf course, they get out of the car and Scotty beats him by a shot every fucking day.

It's just, it's crazy, man. It's crazy how good it is. And it's worth noting one shot, like that doesn't sound like a lot, that is monumental. That's enormous. That's massive, massive, massive advantage. Like that's what greatness has decided in that is monumental. That's enormous. That's a massive, massive, massive advantage. Like that's what greatness has decided in that one shot. Which is why he's now in the tour championship because he's gonna they're just gonna give him one. That's what he hasn't done

that though. Like he has kind of collapsed at the tour championship every time he's had a chance to win that prize. I think I have a feeling this year will be different as well but yeah another great question from Stedorf. Hold on, hold on. Cody, I sent you a tweet from Justin Ray that I think sums up the strokes gained. I'm not going to argue with that data, but something that summed up the eye test for me was.

I'm not going to argue with that data. No, no, I'm not. But sometimes that stuff doesn't. I am working on my own models, but I've not ready to release this quite yet. The strokes gained stuff sometimes is hard. it's hard. It's like abstract. It's hard to put your head around, what is one stroke better than everybody else mean?

You're telling me it's massive, but I can't really see that. And so Justin Ray was just going by how much more Scottie Scheffler hits it inside 10 feet, like basically than everybody else. And shout out to Tom Hoagy, because he's 15.9% this year and Scottie's 15.5%. But like this week, he goes on these heaters that don't really feel like heaters. All players are the last two seasons. They hit it inside 10 feet, 12.3% of the time. This week,

Scottie Scheffler, I think it says 26.2%. And that's what I see when I'm watching them, where it's just like every time he's got an approach, every time he's in the fairway, he's just stuffing the pinata. And that's the kind of stuff that's like, whoa, this, it doesn't feel like it's an out of body thing. It feels very normal. His reaction feels normal. You know, it's just, it's very routine.

And that's the part that is so amazing to me. I think Brando was saying this, again, I know this is a repeat from a couple months ago, but Brando was saying, the other interesting thing about him is like, he's not a big workout freak. He's not like a tinkerer that's gonna go change his swing. It doesn't seem like he's gonna get super bored of family life.

I mean, who knows? People change, but he seems like he's got his feet on the ground. I think certainly some of the police video that was released this week would illustrate just seems like a pretty grounded dude, you know, even in the worst of circumstances. So it just doesn't seem like, uh, yeah, he's just going to like get up and fly away. I mean things happen. The putting thing, who knows, but like I was going to ask you guys,

how long ago does they, uh, putting troubles feel like, well we were talking about on the happy hour, like this one year ago was like rock bottom when it was like, you know, he could, God, I still, I can't remember the stat, but it just blows my mind. He lost by one last year while losing two strokes per round to the field in putting.

If he'd have putted neutral, he'd have won by seven. He'd have won the tour by seven by putting neutral, average to the PGA tour. That's how good the ball strike he was. Runner up, dead last in putting and he's runner up. You know, when we talk about like, won the tournament by seven by putting neutral average to the PGA Tour. That's how good the ball strike he was. Dead-lasted putting and he's runner up. You know, when we talk about like, Oh, these guys, like they, they, they proximity to the hole. And then if they just catch fire with the putter, you know, that's, that's the key. But it's like, it doesn't, it's putting,

he could fucking be runner up and he can putt the worst in the field for four straight days. It's incredible. And so that was rock bottom. And now here we are, right? It's unbelievable. And today the putter didn't look great, but it still feels like it takes so much less effort for him to, you know, keep it together than, than for, you know,

Morikawa has got to bury some big putts just to, just to stay alive. And he's just like, yeah, every hole, he's just in it, man. He's just inside 10, 15 feet with a look. Well, and it's incredible. Nobody plays their A game. You don't like nobody plays their A game five times in eight starts. Like he won today with out his A game. Like that's the shit that's like super scary. And I did the strokes. Like you were saying, like, it's hard to like contextualize and I like they have this this stuff on the on the data golf website that like shows like this is

just like his approach play from 150 to 200 like these sliders are like the percentiles like he's like 99% like it's just hard to it's build a player in a video it is it's slide it up it's like when you've built this place this when you start back over and like do it again with a crazier outfit in the EA sports game just like because you've kind of already beaten the game like he's beaten the game it Like he's beaten the game.

It's completely absurd. Couple question. Go ahead. What did that translate into as far as watching for you guys today? Because we've said this a couple times over the last year. Like the more someone wins, the more exciting they tend to get.

How did you, did that carry through today? Neil, how are you feeling watching the end? I mean, I was rooting for Moor Kyle to hold that chip. I wanted to see more of a shootout because it didn't feel, I guess, it didn't feel to me like Collin was gonna catch him, like the whole back nine. I was like, you know, Scottie, this is kind of,

it feels inevitable that Scottie's just gonna, you know, be between the mustard and mayo. And that is a little bit boring. So what you're kind of rooting for is like, I need one of you other guys, one of your other dogs, in air quotes, to have an out of body experience to catch this guy. Which is, like Deidre, what you're saying, that is amazing, but it probably doesn't feel quite as exciting as it should. And maybe that's because there's a little bit of maybe a lack of fist pumps and the way he does it like today. He didn't make a ton of putts. He didn't chip in. There's not a lot of exciting

moments where you go back to someone like Tiger, they had golf's greatest rounds on early this week, like Torrey Pines, US Open. And the putts he made against Rocco, it's just like, he's an alien. It's unbelievable. It's just a knack for doing it the hard way, almost a tiger head of like making these like 20 and 30 footers. And I feel like Scotty is, is not quite, you know, he's not doing it that way. So there's a lack of maybe, um, you know, he's water, he's not fire. It goes back to my original, my original take. I think it's not Scotty's fault. Like He needs a rival and it needs to be one guy. He needs a challenger, right?

And it can't kind of be a revolving door of Morikawa and Xander and Rory. There's gotta be a dude that steps up and says, hey, at least you're Phil, right? I'm at least gonna be the clear second best player of this generation and run. Cause it didn't, I'll tell you this. Thursday, when his tee time start,

when his round went off, it was one of the few times this year on a Thursday where I was like, I know what time his tee time is and I kind of need to be near this. I was kind of like the way when we started doing this, we were with, I was with Tiger at least, I was like, he was off at 12.54, I know he's off 10 at 12.54, I know that.

Scottie's entering that period rare that like zone of like dude It's time to track you around from the jump which the PJ tour is lacking at this at this point But was it like exciting and thrilling today? It didn't quite feel that way Maybe because I just didn't watch much Thursday through or Friday and Saturday didn't get to see a whole lot But I don't know it feels like it should be bigger a bigger deal than it is But you just get to what we're doing right now. I'm kind of out of way of describing how freakish you are at golf.

It's hard. I was thinking about it. I mean, it's all the opposite. We've been watching a lot more baseball. Check out the Steamsters episode on Trap Draw. There's no home runs in golf. There's no strikeouts. There's no legging out tri There's no, you know, legging out triples really like exciting, exciting, exciting plays. So like I'm trying to think of like what the even the equivalent is. Well, there are that's just like, dude, he just hasn't he hasn't had a three oh count in in eight months. Like he just gets ahead of everybody. It's like, well, yeah, that's not that exciting, though. But it's like crazy good. It's just not that, you know, I don't know how you

could make it too much more exciting like you just slowly suffocates everybody over like four days and he does it really methodically and like in contrast like when it was tiger It was fist pumps man And it was like a different character and it was a guy that like Had such so much more of a flair for the dramatic which I think made you root for very dramatic But speech was different, you know, it's a Tiger, I don't think it's the good comp here, but Spieth was a weird thrill ride that was just like, dude, I'm here for this.

Yes, because it always felt like it could have gone off- Well, it's like he's Houdini. How's he gonna get out of this one? You know, it's like a TV show. Like, oh, he's in a jam again. You know, that's the beauty of Spieth, but the match kinda ran out. The other comp is probably Rory like 2014 Rory which was like

the prodigious driving that now is like I'm not saying a million people like drive it the way that he does now but like there are guys that drive it long and straight very repeatably like Scotty in a way that Rory did in 2014 so that doesn't even stand out as much. So it's just, yeah, it's just kind of this okay, amalgamation of everything. And I agree with with two quick points. One is like, there's a highlight reel of Tiger at Memorial floating around earlier this week of like the two irons into 11. And you know, like today, Scott laid up on 11, and then hit it to like, 12 feet, which is like, you know, that it's awesome. And it's it's really or no, sorry, that was I'm wrong. But he did lay up. So anyway, there's not I's it's really or no sorry that I'm wrong but he did lay up so anyway. There's not I can't think of a whole today that I have a like.

I can't really other than his shot in the 12 it's like this this proximity to the hole over and over again but nothing that's like rolling up to like 2 feet you know I'm trying to say? Like there's no, it's almost like today. They need like a map on the green, like a video game map. That's just like the average player hits it inside of this ring, like on every shot that he hits, just so you can see that like every time he hits it inside of that. And then the second piece. Yes, I agree completely with that. The second piece is sorry. I completely agree with you on, he doesn't have a rival. And sometimes what I get out of Colin and out of Xander is sorry, I completely agree with you on he doesn't have a rival. And sometimes what I

get out of Colin and out of Xander is like, I don't doubt how good these guys are. And the numbers prove it out and the win at the PGA for Xander, but they don't, they're not mean. They're not bullies. We talked about it a couple of weeks ago. It's like today, even calling just, it feels like, Oh shucks, I'm not going to do it again. You know, like, oh, bummer. It's like, I like we need a villain or like somebody that's like not scared, man. Like it because because Scottie's the nice guy. He's nice and he's just really, really good. So you almost see like a different personality to go against them. And you're right, there's a vacuum there right now. And it was scary when just looking at the data golf like court fit tool on Wednesday and seeing that Scottie Scheffler was one of the best fits for the golf that that

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Finished at minus three Fitz Ludwig and Sebstraka finishing at t5 not not loving the mobility I'm seeing out of Ludwig. He's doing the old Brooks Koepke like tough bend down to read putts and I don't know a lot about his current health situation. I don't love that sign for a I joke about him being old but he's actually not that old to be if you well it does look like he's t5 on one leg yeah oh he's a freak that's you can look at that half full half empty right but I agree with you does look like he's banged up a little bit worth mentioning in his his press conference. He got asked specifically about his Prognosis and he refused to go into any details Someone asked hey, we heard it to torn meniscus and he said I am NOT gonna comment that's between me and my doctor

It's hip which is interesting. Yeah And he's not that's not a HIPAA compliant question there. And then the other thing was, does it basically like, is it affecting you on the golf course? He said, absolutely not. I am practicing full go 100% and I feel no pain when I'm on the course. So don't disagree with you guys.

Obviously if he's reading the putts in a different way, then you know, there's something going on, but just balancing out with what he put on the record. I would like to call it the T8. We got Hideki and Sungjae. Before we do that, I want to shout out to Substrakham. That dude continues to play golf, man. He shot four over today, but still finished two under par and T5. He just continues to produce results. He's had just a fantastic year and just feels

very- You're going to apologize for dogging him for the Ryder Cup team? Absolutely not. He went one and two in the Ryder Cup. I was spot on on that one. Thank you for bringing... I'm really actually glad you brought that up. Big point on day one though, you know that.

Thank you very much for bringing that up. Yeah, big point. He was not good in the Ryder Cup, so I was spot on. Thank you. But it just feels extremely normal to watch him play golf on the weekends and finish easy. T5 at the Heritage, T8 at Wells Fargo, he was T11 at Zurich, he missed the cut at the PGA.

I'm gonna need some more out of him, out of him there. But it's been a big leap he's made this year. So I'm gonna shut that out. Why, wait to try to bring me down while I'm trying to shout out Sepp Stroud and Neil. Fair enough, I just wanna shout out Sung Jae In. I picked him as the top Asian finisher this week. He doubled the last hole to Kai Hideki.

So that was a dead heat split for me. But still a dub, still a dub people. After he shot 76 on day one, I was getting chirped all over the internet for it, and I just wanna say to all the haters and losers, look at me now, how's that taste? Shout out to Randy's Fandel pick today as well. He said, more a cow a winner without Scotty

that was plus 180, and that one closed. Rocked it. So I presented without comment, big tone, playing some golf, stacking up a a couple stacking up a couple of couple human results here. That's so big of you to present that. To present that without comment. That's that's enormous of you. But what I don't want to open up too much of a discussion on this because I'm a little confused on it as well. But what

do we think of how your field village played? Right? Did did the firmness and difficulty of the golf course lead to a somewhat unexciting Sunday? And I, if you're listening to this and you're like, what the hell do you guys actually want out of golf course? I agree with you here because I'm a little confused as well because we want it to be firm. You want it to be difficult. You want to see them challenged. Sometimes I wonder, I like the results we saw in the final few holes with Muirfield Village specifically or where some of the critiques come in of like Yeah, when it's super firm with just thick rough around the greens like you're just gonna Bound it over the greens and all end up kind of in the same spots

It was a little bit of that it wasn't like Bay Hill bad But just a little bit of that I was feeling that a little bit especially the 16th hole 18th hole I've never liked 17th as well like that finish is just pretty I don't know It doesn't promote a ton of exciting golf come down the finish. I'm wondering if you guys have any color to add to that. I would agree with that. I've been to this golf course many, many times and I don't, I say that only to say like I don't remember that many shots from here. You know, there's a couple, obviously the Tiger Chippin is a freak shot from 16 but other than

that it's like you know it's kind of you're kind of at the mercy of the leaderboard a little bit and like are you gonna get a duel because there's a bunch of big names up there that are going back and forth but outside of that it's it kind of ends up being a lot of what you're saying it's like can I come I don't just turn out in like a super exciting way but 13 14 15 I feel like are well contcontoured greens that like create some really interesting shots and really good exchanges of value throughout it.

16, 17, 18, I think is like the total opposite, right? That's where it- I would even go forward, 10, 11, 12. I feel like everything up to 15 is really strong. I think nine's sick too. Yeah. So it's not like the golf, it's not, again, not a Bay Hill situation where the entire golf course

is a complete and total disaster it's just like I some of those shots down the finish just kind of I don't know if At least like if I can defend Valhalla it was like ah you're gonna see some like crazy stuff happen near the end and this one's just kind of like a little hard for the sake of hard to finish it off and I part of me wonders if it's to protect par and so Jack and have the scores low and want to be challenging all that i'd i'd

there's no a good answer on all these things right it's we could sweat to fully explain what i'm feeling a thing about it would take 45 minutes and i think that's good tv so uh... but i had just got to very complicated about this golf course as it goes forward and kind of just you know i know it's jack's baby of wanted to see someone else touch it up a little bit and add some more short grass around the greens and really, really, really create some intrigue around these green complexes.

I think some of it is like other than Scotty on, you know, number nine, like you're not going to see a lot of like massive explosions, right? Like when somebody misses, it's going to be like, ah, they're, it's going to be like, ah, they're going to make bogey from there. And there's not the like US Open style, like, oh, that ball keeps rolling. That ball keeps rolling. Oh my God, he's dead from there. He might make a seven. Like there's not that massive, massive downside risk. So it's like an execution test where it's like either you pass or fail. And if you fail, you're probably not going to make like a double or a bogey. Like you're probably gonna make like a bogey or double,

you're not gonna make like a triple or have some sort of like spectacular blow up. So maybe as like for me, who's like certainly not an expert on this stuff, it's like maybe I'm missing that a little bit. I'm missing a little bit of the chaos of like number 10 at RIV, where it's like, oh man, if he misses in that bunker,

like strap in, like we might see, you know, there might be an eight. You don't really have that out there. So it is a lot of like kind of boring bogeys probably. Yeah. But it also has a ton of good stuff going for it, right? It's one of the courses that like has enough width that I feel like accuracy is like properly emphasized

and rewarded out here more than just like some of the more narrow golf courses as well. So I don't know. I just 16, I can't believe they still can't golf courses as well. So I don't know I just 16 I can't believe they still can't get that right Cody. I don't know if you have the shot chart from from this final round again downwind like it feels like it is every single year. Nobody got within 21 feet of that pin like you can't even hit it at the pin which I'm not saying you have a god-given right to hit at it but like again all the balls are collecting in the exact same spots because no one can hold the green still despite them improving that angle slightly

and supposedly softening the green. And you know, they got rid of a bunker that protected the front right and created a little bit more grass over there. It's still just like, dude, it just feels like a total crap shoot when you get to the 70th hole of the tournament. And this lake was not there when I was growing up.

Like they added this lake. It's not like they have to have a lake in this spot. Like it's not like they have to have a lake in this spot. I just cannot understand how they spend this much time and money on this hole. And it seems to somehow be getting worse. I really don't understand it. All that water just showed up when

Scottie started playing the tournament. There you go. You know? Over time, man. It's unbelievable. Just collects low lying areas. I will say, the crowd I don't you know the crowds looked enormous. I know they're usually big for this tournament but it like really popped on tv this

week how uh just massive like when scott was coming up the 13th green just lined up 10 deep. I again bedded this tournament many times growing up like it this is what it felt like when you were following like the big groups back in that day. I don't want to compare to a Tiger crowd like that was just a different kind of thing. But man just 1020 deep on some of these holes that you know, promote a lot of good stadium seating and it was I don't know just a good that was a little picked me up in terms of like, I feel like the tour needed a little, little vibe, you know, increase after you know, the year that's been and

felt like they got that this week a little bit. How, how are you feeling about the going to the week before the US Open instead of Memorial Day? I kind of want to see it play out. I think I like it. And we're going to SIG event, major SIG event in a row here. I had that on the list to ask you guys if that is if that's a good thing. I kind of think it is like it it's gonna be a really busy,

intense month, but Jack doesn't like it, but I kind of like it, I think. I like Bay Hill, the fact that Bay Hill rolls into the players as well. I don't know, I kind of like that big, when Bridgestone used to roll into the PGA championship and everyone was together and you know, you kind of had the storylines just build themselves

right into it, I think I like it. I don't know, I'm curious your guys thoughts too. I mean I can almost, I kind of wish it was Memorial, Travelers and then the US Open. I don't know. I'm worried that Travelers is going to be hard for me to get up for after US Open. So it's like Sig, major Sig. The Sig's going to feel like a bit of a downgrade. Always one too many sigs at the end of the night. Yeah, too many sigs, man. You know, we didn't need that last bogey. We're going to talk sigs on the back half as well. We can, we'll have a plan to get

through there. I will say, I mean, I think this benefits the USGA probably more than it benefits the PGA tour, but like Scotty Scheffler winning on the Sunday before your tournament is certainly better for your TV ratings and for interest and everything than it would be him winning eight days before your tournament. So I think there's a positive there but yeah I'm with you kind of wait and see. Boring answer but let's see how it goes. I don't have a specific reason to want the gap in between it right that's kind of more of where I that one almost feels like a let down a little bit when Canadian Open

Was in that slot, but wow, what a stray one other stat that they CPS said that it was the sky's the first time to win five times before the US Open since Tom Watson in 1980 Which I blows my mind that Tiger never did that amongst all those runs This was also Scotty's first win past the month of April. Curse is broken. Did Tom Watson win the 1980 US Open? I don't believe he did.

Now I'm trying to remember where that was. Let's see. Jack Nicklaus set the scoring record at ball to stroll and won that one. So, stroll. Liv Houston. The Cliques did it. I think that's the big story here. I know TC, he's at the mercy of American Airlines, I believe, tonight. Yeah, we're coming back from a family wedding today. So, we'll see if he's able to pop on and talk about his beloved Cliques.

He may have just bailed and driven to Houston. Yeah. To go catch the end, you know? Did you actually see him get on the plane? I did not, no. So I mean, he might have gone to Houston to go watch the end. He might be partying in the Cliques clubhouse right now. Dej, I can report we would have seen him on TV if he was there.

I promise you we would have. Quick, just, Quickly, just always interesting or maybe potentially interesting just to look at major championship or performers in live events ahead of major championships week ahead of it. Patrick Reed finished third. Is he in the US Open?

Actually didn't even think about that. He should be, right? I don't know, Masters is only five years? He might be, yeah, might be. I believe that he is not in the US Open. He was signed up for final qualifying and pulled out because of, I can't remember why. Oh, because he made the cut at the PGA Championship

and he didn't think that he could get there in time by that Monday morning. So he's not in the US Open. Okay. David Pooge is, he did qualify for the US Open. He finished in a tie for third with Patrick Reed as well. Is that how you pronounce it, Pooge? That's what I'm told.

Pooge Daddy. That's what I'm told. Kapka finished ninth in a tie for ninth. He finished well at the 2014. We'll talk about all this in our US Open preview tomorrow, but just kind of running through some of the names that you'd recognize to say, you know, who's kind of playing well. The winner of the event was Carlos Ortiz. He beat Adrian Moranque. He sees cliques

by one shot. I'm just receiving word Cam Smith went double, double, double triple today, in route to a t-48 finish. With another double on 18, that's not good. Yeah, I don't really know what's up with that. I gotta admit I did not catch that on the broadcast. But yeah. I'm just flagging that as like a, you know,

you want to talk about iron players at a, at Pinehurst. You want to talk about good putters at majors. Yeah. I feel like just from the little bit I watched of that today, I don't know if I'm correlating that golf course a whole lot with Pinehurst. I don't know.

I don't know if there's much to glean from that. It was my overall point on that. Well, let me just say just bottom line. I was in Texas. I don't have to tell Cody this. I was in the Fort Worth area for a family wedding. It was so hot in Texas. If you had the choice on making a new schedule from scratch, I'm just wondering why they

picked Houston in June. I feel like there's a lot of... There's nothing stopping you from going to pretty much anywhere else in the world. It just feels like an interesting pick. Our feelings on Liv, I think are well documented at this point, I think it's worth acknowledging and saying like there are cases to be made for like things that Liv brings to the golf world.

Bring an event to Singapore, they bring an event, obviously to Adelaide, which brings, you know, blah, blah, blah, Valderrama, they've brought golf to certain places and there's, do I think it's overall worth it for the teardown of professional golf? I of course don't, but like there's some points to be made of like, you know, this is additive, this is opposite, blah, blah, blah, and this is the dumbest fucking event

they've ever put on, I really do think. Like it's opposite a signature event, they've done a pretty good job of putting their events opposite terrible PGA Tour events and said like, oh, which one would you rather watch? Obviously this one, can't pull that off this this week is a way worse vibe, way hotter swamp ass was out the ass. It's like over 100 real field the entire time. They do get to wear shorts.

So I do get to wear shorts. Nobody was there. And it's up against like the a signature event of signature events on the PGA Tour. It's like, dude, what was the thought process with this one? Like, again, in the future, whatever is going to get worked out, we can work into some of those quotes as well. Like, I would really challenge the notion that they need 14 events if like one of them is going to look like that. Like you don't put on enough events to have a dud of this size. Like the PGA Tour puts on 40 events and yeah, there are more than 10

that are absolute duds in terms of vibe. But like if you're going to upset the apple car of the entire professional golf world and this is going to be the final result, like, if you're gonna upset the Apple car, the entire professional golf world, and this is gonna be the final result, like yeah, that's probably gonna draw a little bit more of attention than you probably want for the wrong reasons. So that was just frustrating today. I'm like, why the fuck is Tyson not at Memorial right now?

This is so stupid. I will give them a shout out though. I landed at Newark today and they must've done a deal with Reach TV, the airport TVs, and they just live on every terminal, every gate TV. I was like, damn, that's pretty good placement for the upstart league. Yeah. I would never poke into the numbers, but I think that's where they get to maybe some

of those 18 billion people watched it. Sure. Sure. I actually made a note of, of course, plane came in way down. I'm lugging the stroller. I'm like a freaking Everest Sherpa walking the baggage claim. And I was just trying to look like, is anybody watching? And I can't say that there were a lot of people that were locked in on the Reach TVs, but hey, good for them. They got a little distribution deal going at the airport.

I think the probably news of the week, you know, as much as I love the cliques and their and their dub would be the left foot infection of US Open champion John Ram potentially putting next week in jeopardy, potentially not. I don't know if we have any updated info. That was the latest that I saw. Did you guys see anything else on that? Rom WD'd after, was it round two? Six holes, after six holes on Saturday, he WD'd with that infection. And he's got a left foot infection.

Yes. A potential lesion. God damn it. Don't know that, don't know that. Well, okay, so it's interesting. I didn't know it was a left foot infection. I did see the video of him grimacing in pain after a T-shot, which feels like a weird,

like did that just, did he open a wound? Like you know what I mean? Like how does, how do you get six holes in and it looked like he tore something or his knee hurt or he twisted an ankle. It didn't look like a, it didn't look like the reaction of an infection was what I'm getting at. I get these all the time.

You get a blister that heal, you think almost heals over and then a new blister on top of it. You don't realize that underneath there's like something wicked going on and the original blister is actually like infected down there. I think that sounds like a lesion to me. Good. Well, it's not a lesion. What always ends up me is I ended up having like cellulitis and my leg basically starts eating itself. It's a tough scene, but I'm happy that he's identified it this week because next week you wanna talk about like hot and a pretty big walk like around Pinehurst this time of year is gonna be, I would say probably worse

than golf club Houston. Guys, I truly don't wanna rule out that Rom six holes in inside it. I was like, dude, I'm just not, I'm not gonna do this. Like it is 96 degrees, it's 68 percent humidity there's nobody here like I'm I'm just not keeping his socks dry I'm just not gonna do this okay reminds me a little Cody of the LPGA match play Yeah, I'm not going to open next week. Yeah.

Always change your socks, Neil. Good call. Yeah, I will say one thing, Sully, as of I think the close of this evening, the the first mid midseason trade window has closed for live. There's zero trades that were completed. I had no clue really how this thing actually worked except for I listened to one of their podcasts the one that Jerry hosts and I guess it had a way to heaven yeah it had to be a match so a like trade you could not do like a free agent or a new you know player

coming on to a team or anything else like that so it's truly individual player on a team versus individual player on a team no money involved at to in the new collective bargaining agreement, then we'll know a lot more. Cody, I appreciate you bringing that up because I do think that is a bit of a missed opportunity by live like, you know, on paper, it's like having some type of trade. That's the NBA gets so much juice out of that. It's everything. Talking, you know, trade machines and just what if this, what if that is like,

you know, come July 1st, that's all we're gonna talk about for two weeks is who's getting traded where in the NBA. So yeah, but basketball is also a team game and you don't feel like a idiot when you turn it on and you've watched you're rooting for a team. Whereas like I live today and it was like, but that's a bad shot is like, oh, and this that's terrible timing, right? As the crushes were making a move. Oh God, this is just fucking kill me. If this whole thing is all about the team golf though, you would think that at least

the league would have forced somebody to complete a trade in order to make some of these fucking teams better. Because at the bottom, like half of this roster, it's so bad. It's so bad. But yeah, a huge element of this would be like, hey, if so and so is locked up through 2027 and someone's on an expiring deal, like you want to clear up a spot, you know, to go for it, this like an understanding for all of us of who's under contract and what makes what. Yeah, there's none of that. The fact that there's no that there's no yeah, that's not public Intel. It's hard to root

for it's hard. What's hard to talk about because even for us, like legitimately would like to talk about it, but you can't because it's just guessing. Like we don't like how much money did wrong get? We have no idea. Right? Well, how does that impact his franchise? We don't doesn't matter, I guess, because somebody's just writing a blank check for it.

So it's hard to take. It makes it hard to take serious for me. And they signed a piece of paper a year ago that was like, oh, yeah, this is going to like Monahan gets to decide what's gonna happen with Liv. Of course, that is not how this ended up playing out, but how, yeah, it's just all contributing to this landscape that I think, I feel like we've talked about this probably

a little bit in the past. I was gonna say, maybe an inelegant transition here, but allow me to try it before we kind of rehash some of the same stuff we've said before, but I'm starting to feel the same way with a lot of the PIF, SSG, PJ tour restructuring stuff where I'm just like, man, I, I just don't have the capacity to, to really care about who's meeting where what's going on because there's no,

like, I don't think there's like a secret lock box that somebody has like the idea in that. Like once we get all this shit hammered out, man, it's just all going to be fixed and all this stuff's going to gonna go away and that's kind of what I think came to a head for Me this week when the the transaction committee subcommittee. I'm sorry is is uh, you know Hash and stuff out on zoom. I'm just like man who gives a shit about this stuff. I've just I've reached my limit I'm declaring bankruptcy because I just don't know what maybe I'm just a lack of you know I have a lack of vision

here but I don't know what's around the corner and that's kind of how I feel about live too is just like I have no doubt that like all of you guys feel like this is really important behind the scenes but like I don't think I have a place in this anymore and I just I kind of wish wish you all the best let me know if there's any updated information cool well look forward to talking about that with you here tonight well that's what I'm trying to get at. Are you guys feeling any of that? What are your, what was your takeaways this week? Yeah, I can't, there's a press release that came out from the PGA Tour that's, of course, said nothing. Like, I think I've lost faith that we're gonna end up with something that is like a unified,

fun, professional golf world. I think there was, the reason I got so hyped about what Rory had presented was just like, this makes sense as far as an entertainment product standpoint, right? Whereas I'm just not hearing anybody else talk like that it's really important that we all play golf

against each other together like 20 times a year. Like I, you know, Rory's quotes, some Rory's quotes this week were like, yeah, they're not slowing down anytime soon. And like, you know, there might be a way to work it on the future where you can kind of do both. It's like, yeah, kind of missing the whole point, right? It just, unless you're all there at Muirfield, I don't know, maybe you are,

maybe you are all at Muirfield Village. Maybe there is eight signature events where everybody gets together and then you go play, you know, maybe hopefully it's less live events. Maybe it's 10. So you, that, you know, 10 live events, eight signature events and four majors is 22 starts.

Like that seems like a reasonable ask of people, but it just seems like it's so messy that I don't, I don't know how to. Well, it seems kind of like the issue that I see with live a little bit is you're trying to do too much. Like you're doing the team golf and the individual thing. And so you can't do both. Like if live is a team golf event,

they should focus on the team golf, right? And you can still celebrate individual players. You can still, you know, who, who's the low round, you know, who's the low individual and stuff. I just think that they, they miss an opportunity because I do think there is a place in golf for like a team league, but they, they've insisted on trying to split the difference. And that's kind of what I'm sensing from all these talks going on between, are we merging? Are we not? It's just like, you're going to try to placate everybody. And you know, some guys aren't going to want to do a global tour. They're like, why can't we go to the John Deere? We've been doing it forever. You know, I love the John Deere.

It's like, well, there's like something, I don't know, there's probably something to be said for that as well. There is something to be said for that. But at the same time, like that's not going to make, you know, public investment fund to Saudi Arabia happy. They don't, I don't think they want to go to the same time, that's not going to make public investment fund of Saudi Arabia happy. I don't think they want to go to the Quad Cities. That's not going to get a deal done, Dej. Well, if we can, let's have a little fun looking back at the events that have transpired since last June 6th as we passed the one-year anniversary. There's a lot of funny stuff in here and that's why I was in on this for so long. And now I just, I don't know if I can keep doing it, man.

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just a quick little quick timeline. I want you guys to fill in, you know, as you see any gaps in my timeline. I did not spend one single second googling or piecing this together. This is straight from memory of what has happened in the professional golf world, mostly from the PGA Tour perspective over the last year. Okay, so. Okay. June 6th, we wake up to the shocking news that the PGA Tour and PIF have made an agreement to make an agreement,

which lawyers would of course tell you to never do. You either make an agreement or you don't. In this moment, they gave all the power and legitimacy to the organization that they spent the last year and a half rallying your tour and public support against around hating specifically, invoking the spirit of 9 11 and then standing up on television with the leader of that organization, shaking hands and talking about this agreement that you've reached, which is not really an agreement. That'll happen on television. CNBC, which I think is important.

I did not have that in my bingo cards a year ago. You wanna make sure nobody sees it, but the people who do are gonna make all the decisions going forward. After this, your membership, which you did not consult in this process, understandably freaks out about all of this after they've made a decision, you know,

not to align with the Saudis. The TOR has made the decision on their behalf. They go about losing their main ally, and Rory, he calls himself a sacrificial lamb of just being out in front taking all of these questions over the course of the last multiple years. Immediately upon doing this, you draw the attention of the DOJ,

so they start poking around a lot of things. Important context there, in addition to our appearance on ESPN, is the, I think the line that Jay said specifically we did this in part to take a competitor off the board. Forgot that one? That was a bit of a tough one. And I do wanna say that just year two

of the Canadian Open catching a, just a but not one strip, just like a, like come on man, just punch them in the nuts for the second Open catching a just a but not one strip just like a like come on man just punch him in the nuts for the second year in a row while they pick up a second event and Hilton had to sponsor as a signature event that's that was cool. As a result of the DOJ poking around you have to remove the clause that you can't poach each other's players. You come up with a deadline for that to be settled before the end of the

year you of course you do not reach it. You begin to publicly flirt with PE money, eventually setting on an agreement with SSG. A non-zero number of your policy board members are not in favor of the group you landed on. And there's some questions arising of relationships with Monahan and the Fenway group and how they ended up getting selected with SSG deeds.

Important one before this, you lose John Rahm. Oh yeah, yeah. Oh, we'll get that. I don't have time on it. Yeah. Well, that happened before. And also the commissioner, after doing all this, basically has an anxiety attack and just leaves for a month, which is tough. Also leaves things in a bit of a vacuum. Also forgot about that one. Your sponsors are furious that they're being left in limbo.

Several of them bail. Fans are furious about the lack of- Sorry, real quick there too. I would say you go to your sponsors and you ask for exorbitantly more money as well. Correct. For less flippant players. As your ratings are dropping,

you're asking for double the money. Of course, Jon Rahm leaves to try to speed up things and has inevitably delayed any deal going down further shifting the power over to your ally or your rival. I still don't really know what they are. Again, fans are furious, lack of direction and clarity on the future of the sport at the professional level. The architect of the deal that, you know, Jimmy Dunn makes a deal to leave Leaves the board saying no progress has been made on the deal another board member leaves and mark Flaherty Rory in this timeline as well leaves the board and wants back on

Meanwhile live continues to rally organized. They've grown their operation. They've dug their heels and they've made it clear They're not going anywhere by spending hundreds of million dollars on somebody like John Rom Despite supposedly signing all of that right away a year ago on this now worthless piece of paper called the framework agreement It's now been two full years since the best players in the world all played together on one tour And we are at least a year and a half away from even the possibility of that happening again So that has been the last year from the PJ Tours standpoint. Anything I missed guys?

Yeah, a couple things. Is Hurley, he still on the board? As of now, yes, but that is a pending question as well. But I think you missed a big one, which was the like, good God. No, how long have we been doing this? The CFO for the PJ Tour and Jimmy Dunn in a Senate hearing, just getting pretty much deep-panced by both sides of the aisle on like what you

basically like, what the fuck are you guys doing was kind of the vibe of, which is usually us talking back to Congress. So like, what the fuck are you guys doing? And I felt like, man, these Congressmen kind of have a point. Like, what are you guys doing that you are just running? You're just not doing a good job. This is not competent work in our world. You remember how surreal that was, Neil, with Big Jimmy Dunn out there talking about like killing anyone if he found out. Yes. I remember. Yes.

And who is the other guy that kept being like, oh, so like, what about China? Where where's China involved? The guy from Luthor or no being like, Oh, so like we're, what about China? Where, where's China involved? The guy from, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, comments though so I'm talking about Josh Hawley. Josh Hawley is going so hard on China. Yeah. God. I forgot to mention Ron Price would not denounce China in the course of his uh. Yeah. God, Ron Price is just taking just just taking all the fire. Meemaw Monahan's out. This is when Monahan is not around, right? And that was the most surreal thing ever. It's like the will of commission, the guy that did the deal's not even here to speak for it. And they stay still. He's still in fucking charge. What are we doing? So you missed that. Circling back to maybe what I was saying about 10 minutes ago, I just don't know. I can't, I'm finding it harder and harder by the day to picture a world where I'm

just like, man, that was all worth it. That was, yeah, we've all finally, it's all finally come back together and like that really was worthwhile And I'm glad I stayed locked in to all the moving pieces of all of this Because it just makes Feel really stupid. I have tough time pushing back on that. I mean I I You know, I'm still interested in just fascinated almost from like a business school like case study standpoint I'm like following this along be like this is going to be a, a case study. You know, it's going to be a book, but you know, like they write about like

barbarians at the gate, like these business books of like hostile takeovers and stuff like 10 years, it's going to have to go by, but it will be, I think in 10 years, look back and be like, God, I still can't believe that happened. Like those guys are morons. Fun real. It really just like, I don't even know where I'm pointing the blame of this of like watching the live TV setup going of live and memorial today side by side was just like, this is the

dumbest fucking experience experiment. Well, let's just mess around with the whole product. Who cares about the wake we're gonna leave behind? Like we'll figure that out. Like we'll be totally fine. It's just so, so silly. So, okay. So it has forced some changes on the PGA tour, right? Like the SIG events, right? In a vacuum on paper, those, you know, I have some issues with the field

sizes and you know, we'll probably talk about that in a second, but what the PGA championship made me realize is like, it really just matters that all the guys are there. I don't care if they shoot 22 under par or 30 under par and it's supposed to be a major. It's like, it was just nice to see them all playing together and like that make that, that is it man. Like that matters more than anything else. And so yeah, the fact that we can't figure out a way to get these guys back together

and that it basically seems like it's just turning the ego now of like there's some guys on one side that said, you know, probably players that are like, I don't want to, yeah, I don't want to play. Yeah. Those guys need to be punished for leaving and all that. Like that's going to hold this up for another year and a half at least. You could point there of like, getting the best players together on the worst golf course is better than like split on good golf course. Yes. 100%. It was like, that was a,

that was an exciting event. And I think Memorial would feel the same way if that field was the same, you know, it'd be like, ah, damn, they're all coming to Jack's place watching Jack shake Bryson's hand when he comes off and like a T4 finish, you know, doing something stupid on 18, like some kind of weird fist pump would have that'd be good TV. Like sign me up for that. You know, yeah. Remember two years or three years ago now when they pulled Rom off the course when he was like beating everybody's ass at the memorial and be like you got COVID dog or you have and then your trace came back. That's why you left to live. Because you moved the grass. Yeah that was a different year. I know that's what I mean Rom just got tons of bad luck or I don't know bad luck, but just weird situations at Memorial

On a different a different level so putting aside and I can't imagine how much stuff we actually left out in there But like straight-up question. Do you guys support? Signature events on the tour We can get into what you'd change about whatever are you are you a fan of the signature event models? Yes I think it's an easy answer. Yes. I am a fan of the signature event model? Yes, yes. I think, for me, it's an easy answer, yes. I am a fan, but I think they honestly need to go further. Like, I think it still feels stuck in the middle to me right now.

That's where a lot of the uncertainty is, and that's where I think some of the, you know, Mark Hubbard's and Kevin Streelman's of the world get, I think, like, rightfully upset. I think the Mules might have landed some punches in that shoe pack article that we're gonna talk about is that when you're like trying to tell people like, oh, you're half in and you're half out

and you can kind of play your way in, but not really, but we're gonna kneecap the field and we're gonna shrink the field, but like we're doing that for a reason that like nobody seems to really care about is where I'm like, this is not, we're stuck in the middle, man. This is not it.

And I would be, I just keep going back to like the same thing I say every time, which is like, just need to admit that there's two tours, you know? And like that, Neil, you were saying like, it's going to be hard to get up for, you know, the travelers the week after the US Open, where you have signature event, major signature event. I just think that if those non-signature event weeks had an identity of some kind, and it was like, you know exactly what the outcome of those events are and what those people are playing for. And it's not like they're planning to like move up columns in a spreadsheet that like none of us ever see. Like I just think those weeks would be so much more fun. And I don't know, we're just not quite there yet. So sorry. So that's a long-winded answer.

I would say, yes, I support it, but I don't,'re just not quite there yet. So sorry, so that's a long-winded answer. I would say yes, I support it, but we're not nearly there yet. I'm with DJ. What I support about signature events is like we do need the best players right now on the PGA Tour, but in general, it's the best players in golf playing together more often.

Like that's kind of the thesis of the signature event model. I don't know why the field sizes have to be smaller and the no-cut thing. I'm like, cause I thought Lash lastly made a really good point about the players. It's like, well, this is supposed to be used to be the best field in golf. That was an awesome tournament. One hundred fifty five guys. Maybe that's too many.

But like you go to one hundred, you know, one hundred and twenty. Like, I feel like you are kind of burning. You're making these guys in the middle mad for no reason. Almost. Well, I think it's going to be 60 or 70. I know it's because you wanna get the money to the top, it's top heavy. They're trying to make sure that those guys earn. I get that, but I mean.

Some of these questions these guys are asking are pretty rhetorical and have been answered though, right? As to why things are the way they are, right? It's, you know, why do they have a limited field of event? Well, they want a better chance of a better leaderboard, right, and like less of a chance of the Nate Lashley's messing up a good leaderboard, messing up a duel between Scheffler and Morikawa today.

That's part of the reason why. Tough one to say out loud, but. Who will be the first person to make the take that Scottie's winning too many limited field events? Yeah, I think it's you. I think it's you right there. He's right there, certainly. I think it's you right there.

They modeled this out, and it's again, not an easy answer, but the bigger you made the signature events, the more you were going to crush the non-signature events. The more you're going to be adding guys 70 through 120 into the field, you're not making that tournament that much better for the sponsors that are putting up the 24 million and you're crushing the sponsors that are putting up the 8 million for the events in between. That was a big part of modeling all that out. Nobody wanted to listen to that. We've got three stakeholders. I know. Totally.

It's just now we're solving problems for two different groups of people. And that's, you know, not really serving the product itself. It's kind of serving the bottom line. I don't think the 70 through 120 guys improve the product of the signature events. I just don't. I'm sorry. I'd rather have everybody go on the first tee. No, but what I worry about is a little bit of like the there's a lot of talent in in the you know Not worry about but like there's a lot of like younger guys I feel like you you run the risk of it being a little stagnant like I don't know if the a on swing five and the you know, whatever the other top ten is that like the osmosis between the

Signature and non-signature events like I think you could make that a little bit more Volatile I guess would be if I was if you were asking me how to improve it, I would make the field a little bigger. I'd get to 80, 90, I mean, I think you go to a hundred. There's gotta be some kind of a cut, man. And like these guys are like, talking about the pampered fucks comment, it's like, yo, when there's no cut,

I do think it changes these guys' attitude. I think some of them just show up and mail it in, you know, and I think that's BS. Like there should be a it doesn't have to be half the field. Maybe it's 25 percent. But like get rid of the bottom feeders. But that's exactly what we talked about Wednesday with sponsors exemptions. If you want somebody to put up 24 million, you want the guarantee that like then they cut guys this week, like they cut a bunch of like Jordan Speed did not play the weekend

after Workday and Nationwide put up whatever, however much money they put up for it and they didn't play the weekend, right? Like that's not a sexy part of the competition part, but it's part of the reality of pro golf. If you want to have $20 million purses, like you got to have companies that want to pay it, right? So like that's, that's where I, I, my general thought on this is I think fans and players alike can end up getting focused on the wrong stuff with this, right? Can get it focused on, we need to send the bottom 20 guys home as if that's really important to the final end of the product. It's just not that essential, right? Like some of the stuff you got to feed the

beast of the people that put the money in, that's just part of the reality of it. And I think it just seems like no matter what, how they structure it, people are getting fed up and annoyed with little nuances that just aren't that important in my opinion. Well I think it's a it's a bit you're right it's in some ways you're right it's a bit symbolic though of like I think it's a slap across the face of the guys that don't get into this event that probably it probably ticks them off more when it's like that guy goes out and shoots like 10 over par you know and just mails it in like I know there was a cut this week, but some of the past ones where there hasn't been a cut, like it's just, I don't know, it doesn't feel, it doesn't

feel like a real golf tournament to me. I think the cut is important. It's a symbolic thing of like, if you don't play like shit, you don't make any money. You go home. Like that's a like core part of pro golf to me. But so explain this part though of like Saturday and Sunday mornings, early part of the day, setting up hospitality. I don't have, there's not a clear answer to me why you wouldn't want to have golfers coming through that.

Right? Like why you'd want less players out there on the golf course on Saturday, Sunday. It's not taking up TV time. It's not like really holding anything up in there. If you told me Friday cut watch is like where the ratings come from, where the pro like go look at how many people watch Friday afternoon, PJ Torgolf. The number would astonish you for how little people it is. And everyone, people try to act like the cuts

the most important thing. I don't disagree. I think it is a mindset change. It totally is. I don't disagree with that. I guess I like the cut. You're making good points though about like who's signing the checks and this is what matters like for the on-site experience and the hospitality stuff I'm not gonna argue with that. I guess the cut to me Means that you could probably get a few more guys into the tournament and then cut it down for the weekend I don't know just more flexibility. There has to be a little bit of downside to it. I guess I think Again, the answer I don't I'm not even like disagreeing with you

I'm just like the reality of pro golf like the answer even in example you gave, it's like more like that then there's a chance in the what you propose is a chance Nate Lashley makes the weekend and Jordan Spieth doesn't. Whereas the other model would say and again, ignoring this week where there was a cut, like the other model would say like, No, I know Jordan Spieth is gonna be here this weekend, right? Like that's that's the goal of this. I know. But now I'm like, yo, Spieth's gotta fucking play better. And like, so now I'm like, now, but now I'm saying

like, why are we, you know, giving him a free pass? It's like, who's, I'm starting to think like, well, we gotta find the next speed. Like, who's the young kid? Who's the guy with the red fairy? This is where I'm like, yo, two tours, man. Get them up, get them down, get some volatility going.

That's what I mean, so like, yeah, you wanna solve. The Houston Open gets into, you know, the Harbor Town or whatever, you know, like that that feels like it's something I can wrap my head around. But I know I now rambled a little bit. But like the signature event in theory works for me because like, yes, like that leaderboard today was good. And I feel like most of these signature events, I'm like, oh, there's some names up here. Like, let's see if Collins

a dog. Let's see if Xander can do it. Like, you know, there's guys, some of the same names, it's Scotty on top, like, it's putting good leaderboards together and getting these guys to play at the same places. That's like step one. Now we got to make that better and make that more compelling for me. And I agree, like, I think there's room to fill out the field. So I got some of the points that some of the Mules made.

I don't know if we want to go point by point that we're in the in Adams. I don't think these are perfect. I think they can do better at like placating some of the membership of the opportunities of the A, some of the details of the A on swing 10 and five and all that and how like if you're, you know, if you qualify for two of them and they don't go farther down the list to like fill out the field, I think you can, you can fix that.

Like I think that's something that is a fair critique of like filling out the bottom. It's not, they's not they're not overload. They don't have too many guys in these fields right. Well, it's just also over complicated because you have all the other exemptions they have to worry about. You know, it's been an issue with the PGA forever of like what a PGA tour card is like. There's literally 75 different categories for having a card. But that doesn't mean what it used to anymore.

Now that we've kind of made like you said, deeds like it kind of is two tours at this point. They're just not calling it that they're just kind of, you know, they're just slapping together. Oh, it goes back to like, here we are a year later. They don't fucking know what they're doing. They're for sure slapping together. So, and then, you know, back to like, listen, workday, all these sponsors, RBC, like, they're probably, you know, I guess like credit to them for like, you know, trying to help help the tour and spend more money. But like, it's kind of a lesson in like, now they have leverage and now we get these sponsors exemptions, it affects the product in a way of like, I don't think it, you know, the Kutcher

play doesn't make me mad, like we talked about on Wednesday, but I don't know if these guys should be paying 20, $25 million. It's like, you know, and that got driven up by an irrational actor came into the market and started overpaying for everybody. So it gets back to, you know, it's hard to fight somebody with a blank check and an irrational, irrational confidence, I guess. I also would say,

I don't think that like the tour is just like sitting on a gold mine idea that they're not like, it's pretty much like not maybe not literally, but this is about as good as it's going to get guys. Like it's not what I mean. Like other ideas and that's, that's like, I know maybe golf shouldn't be that big. And it's like, Oh God, now we just got out. Now we just got out of whack. Right. Yeah.

But like, you can't put the genie back in that bottle. So it's getting really interesting. Wells Fargo is out. What happens to all these other title sponsors? Give that two or three years. It's like, at some point they're going to be like, this doesn't make any fucking sense, man. That's what I'd be saying. If I was the CMO, I'd be like, man, I might go sponsor the LPGA tour or go try to get more involved in team golf at the Ryder Cup twice, you know, every two years or something, I don't know. At some point we should have a sponsor, or a past sponsor on just like talk about what they get out of all this.

Like, cause that's where it's just like, some of the shit that we talk about just doesn't matter to these sponsors. They just want to entertain some clients. I know. And put on an event. They do, but that makes sense to a point. Like everybody has a budget though, right?

And when you start, and now it's like, it's probably raising eyebrows in the, you know, outside the marketing division of like, yo, we're spending how much on this? I got to think AT&T was saying that with Byron Nelson, like they were kind of getting screwed for a while there with Pebble and Byron Nelson, almost getting downgraded. So it's like, okay, cool, we're out on Byron Nelson.

We're going to go hard at the, you know, AT&T, but then they have to pay double for that event. It's just like, I don't know, it's tough. Yeah, pay triple and cut down everything that that event was known for. Like the history. I know, it's just like, anyway. And you have our baby's comments and everything else like that, but sorry, hey, we have somebody waiting

in the bullpen. I was gonna say, speaking of getting paid triple, I think we got someone to bring in to talk about that phenomenon Hello TC, I'm at the airport I just landed got my guys with me say hi Freddy I mean what a day what a day you guys are talking about, you know All sorts of dysfunction and everything like that and the cliques got it done.

Liv's not happy. I know that Liv Social didn't give them a shout out for the first 30 minutes after they won. Just seeing the disrespect showed to these small market teams. Blandy shot 67 today, carried him across the line, raucous crowds. I don't think I ever expected them to actually win one of these things. It's crazy. Truly crazy. TSC, do you like Kymers chances heading back to Pinehurst next week? Is he a

favorite for you? Your captain. And will you apologize? He got it done today. I don't. He got it done today, but he, you know, he after a double or, you know, double and a bogey was three over through like three holes today. So, no, Blandy Blandy shot 67 and carried this team today. So all credit to him. You know, I think Moranque great performance. Ronk, great performance. Kaiei Samuia, a couple of shanks in there. We're ahead of the fireballs, the range goats. We're way ahead of the aces in the table right now. So, sky's the limit, guys. Are you upset that they let the trade deadline pass without making any big moves to the future?

No, I think this kind of validates what they were about, right? They you know, it took them a few months to get the get the ingredients in place. And now it's paying off. So we'll see, you know, Houston, obviously, just a proper championship venue down there greens greens look great. And you know, it was truly this is like one of the biggest upsets in hit and sports history.

This is like, this is like Williams winning the USL package this week. Yeah. What a, what a week, right? What a week. So I mean, natural question, just how high is the ceiling for this team? Oh, you're looking at it. You know, we're looking at it, but it's, listen, I think, we know they at it but it's listen I think we know they I think it's tied for second last time out and then got the win here so I think we're

good so congratulations go celebrate with your family thank you thank you sorry American Airlines we were 20 minutes late really really bad experience but they got us here safely. Look like you landed a little early, TC. I was checking in on you. I'm glad to hear that. So I'm glad they made up the time in the air. Yeah, so.

Yeah, yeah. So all right. Thank you as always, TC. Thanks, TC. Wow, that was like a player calling in after, like, it's like Max calling in the pod. It was way to the airport. We had so many winners calling in.

Nelly Korda called in, Rose has called in, Max of course called in, and now TC calling in after the Cliques win. I guess I wish, what's really tough, if I was gonna sum it up, because I feel like I've been pretty negative here the last 30 minutes, which I hate that. I almost wish that Liv Houston was like,

raucous and awesome. I wish that one of these like something was going well. You know what I'm trying to say? Like I wish I was, which the competitor was like, which was worthwhile to like, yeah, I guess that's well set. It's like, God dude, it's like neither one of these is winning. That's, that's kind of where I'm at. They're both losing is how I feel.

I mean, if I'm being honest, like this is, this is kind of where I think where the positivity comes from me is, and listen, Memorial was fun down the stretch. It's fun to watch Scotty hold it off. I cannot wait for Pinehurst this week. I think it's going to be really, really, really freaking fun. But on a lot of these weeks where the PGA Tour and, you know, pro golf in general just becomes kind of optional, like the recreational game is fucking going like this. Like it is crazy how much more just anecdotal.

But like how many more people in my life just seem to be taking up the game. We've seen how hard it is to get like this. Like it is crazy how much more just anecdotal but like how many more people in my life just seem to be taking up the game. We've seen how hard it is to get tea times. That's kind of like where my head goes is like man do I want to be thinking about like you know what's going on with the sub trends like the transaction subcommittee or do I want to be thinking about like how to fix my early extension my golf game and like going to see new places and you, playing with friends and doing all that stuff. Like hell yeah, dude. Like that's, that's just, I think it'll become like, I think that just got so far out of whack.

Jeff Shackelford talks about this all the time too, but like, I'm making this up, but let's just say it's, it's 50 50 for somebody, like how they consume like golf. Let's just say it's 50 50, like pro game versus recreational golf. Like back in the day, like before Tiger, I mean, that was like so much higher towards the recreational golf was people's experience of golf. And for a lot of people, it still is. And I feel like that has just like swung so far out of whack to an unsustainable

level, which is how we find ourselves in this giant mess to begin with. And that like, whatever they're cooking up back there is not going to be better than like just going out and playing on a Saturday afternoon. And I think a lot of people have started to say that about TV ratings and realizing like, oh, the weather's good. And I think people are just like checking out and going to play instead. And so, you know, I know we've talked about that, like with the podcast, even where it's like, man, there's probably ways to incorporate a lot more of that into this podcast than you know Trying to break down all the X's and O's of what's going on with Liv Houston

Which sucks because like there is a real Gravitational pull towards a television when pro golf is good, right? Like there is a like did you see what happened yesterday? Like oh my god is is blah blah blah gonna hunt him down today He's got four shot leads, sleeping on four shot. Like, you can't force that kind of interest and that intrigue out of it. And it feels like sometimes we do have to summon that, right? Whereas like, dude, when everybody gets,

like PGA felt pretty fricking natural to be like, dude, kind of whole golf world turning around. I felt like that at the players. I mean, my son was born. I was like, I'm trying to find like the T-dome in the hospital room. Like, yo, this is, this is a shame. I feel great Sunday, you know?

And that's what I mean. Those moments are like still there and still going to be there. And it's just, it's a matter of like trying to make those. It seems like what they're in these boardrooms doing is trying to make those weeks like every single week. And I'm like, I just don't think that's possible in golf. Yeah, I don't think that's well said.

Way too much golf, man. Yeah. There's four tournaments a year that matter. Everything else, they continuously try to amplify and say, oh yeah, look at this. That's at the end of the day, Sully, your feeling, DJ, your feeling, that only happens four times a year.

And that's because what marketing and everything else, history, lineage, whatever you wanna say has told us, that's what matters. Everything else, like go out and play, wanna say is told us, that's what matters. Everything else, like go out and play, go enjoy your life. And you know, there's people all the time when we talk about this, like, oh, you guys have the, you can change the channel, you can go do whatever else, but like, this is also our job,

and this is obviously something that we've chose to do, and we're gonna watch, we're gonna provide this podcast and these products and everything else that we go through. And we feel like we have to watch the golf in order to inform and entertain our listenership, our viewership and everything. So over time it gets very monotonous. But you're right, Neil, when you have those moments

and you're like, dude, yeah, the course stunk, but everything about the tournament was like, yeah, I whole, the course stunk, but everything about the tournament was like, yeah, I want to watch that. I can't wait for next week. I'm so excited for next week. And maybe they're trying to do, we're trying to do it too many weeks, Deidre. I think that's well, but I would argue like,

it might now be the four weeks that really mattered. But before all this happened, there were definite, definite, it was not every weekend. It wasn't every big event, but there were definitely moments where like, dude, that golf I watched mattered. And I, I don't know. I always think back to like the Valspar

when Reed and Spieth were in the playoff. That was just like, fuck, that was awesome. And some of those like Mexico opens, you know, like, yeah, yeah, like there's probably, it doesn't have to be four. It should be like 10, 12, 15 times where you're like, yo, I'm locked in this week This is great. Yeah

it is kind of hard to because you brought up like the the five wins this early in the season by Scotty earlier and How shocked you were the tiger like Tiger's schedule was the way that it was for a reason like he spread it across the entire season He didn't play that much at the beginning of the year year you know he had he had a couple over like DP World Tour events that he would go hit up but this is when like he really started cooking and that's where like the Memorial mattered and I think the Memorial is yeah you know it's in a weird spot now not just off of Memorial Day weekend but also moving Championship, moving the players around. Some of these smaller events had to kind of, you know, get shrunk down,

and that's kind of where it's at now. So, I don't know, I'm very interested to see how the signature events, what they move into, but overall, I mean, we only have one left. I know this is the first year that we made it, so they weren't mandatory for everybody, but everybody still seems to be showing up. I think a lot of that's money, but I don't know. It'll be very interesting to see what comes of it because eventually, you're right, Neil, like what's going

to happen when you have more of these sponsors of Signer events? Or it's like, no, man, like I'm not paying that much money for this crap anymore Yeah, let's get a LPGA and then we tease at the beginning You can start sending a man Cody's gonna throw up We're gonna do a five to ten minute segment of throw up as many questions can be about truly anything It does not please don't make it about June 6, please It could be about please make it be a fun segment. We bet you the top or Jan six a fun segment we bet you the top line it's or Jan six it knows no six true Linnea storm shot a final round strong sorry excuse me I typo'd that one Linnea strum shot a final round sixty default from 52nd place to winning I that's as

far back as I've ever heard of a winner just run that sentence back again there I think fifty five around sixty six come. 60. She'll come back. She was in the third group off of the first tee today. And won the tournament. It's insane, man. It's insane. Ayaka Fudeway and Megan Kang finished in second place. Notable occurrence this week,

Nasa Hataoka was disqualified, which I was reading could end up costing her a spot in the Olympics as she played her second shot on the ninth hole from long fescue around the green. It was her last hole of the day and after footage was reviewed, provided the LPJ following the round, it was determined the search for Nasah's ball lasted longer than three minutes. It was commented on television, Tom Abbott had commented that they'd been looking

for quite some time. And then again, after I'm unsure the timeline of when it was reviewed or why it was reviewed late, but determined it took three minutes and 25 seconds to find the ball and she played it, which then made the rule that she played from the wrong spot. Scorecard was signed.

It wasn't communicated to her until the following day. And she was disqualified based on that, which was unfortunate incident there that hopefully doesn't end up messing up messing up qualifying for the Olympics but Ayaka Fudo-Way finishing second this week I haven't seen the projections I imagine would not be the wrinkle she was looking for out of that but Going back on Linnea, largest comeback on the LPGA since what year you guys think? Did you see this? Since like 1500, like since the beginning of the tour?

How was there a bigger comeback? Since 1824. Largest comeback in 40 years. That's the heavyweight stuff. I'm honestly surprised there's a comeback that's been from that far back. It's unbelievable. So.

All right. It impacts my models for how far back is too far back. It does change everything. Also, sorry, did they change this rule? Back in the day, remember that? Not to go back to NASA, but like, didn't they change that where you cannot, people can't call in or their disqualification

is no longer on the table? I thought there was a rule change specifically about this. There's a rule change about like, and I'll get the specifics of it wrong, but you can't, if it's something that like was, was not visible to the naked eye and is reviewed from HD footage, it no longer can constitute,

like after the fact can constitute a disqualification, right? Like it can't be like a grain of sand was moved in the bunker, blah, blah, blah. That was not, you know, seen on camera on television. But this is like, hey, you took too long to find this ball. That ball should have been declared lost. That's not HD footage that led to that. It was, and it was commented on live.

I think this is honestly like, I've read this and I was like, this is a resource problem for the LPGA. Like this should have been caught prior to this happening, especially if Tom Abbott's commenting on it as it's happening on the television window, saying that it had taken too long, or it had taken a long time.

That had been something that they should have been able to quickly scramble somebody to look at and count, but that was not able to happen. So anyways, wanna get some questions and get to wrap? Well, I think you have a second Arizona State Sun Devil that you wanna give a shout out to this week, and that's Lynn Grant for absolutely dusting everybody at the Scandinavian Mixed as well,

ended up winning by one stroke over Sebastian Soderbergh, just heartbreaking loss there. I don't want to mince words or anything, but potentially one of the worst finishes that I've ever seen, including the 18th hole. It was heartbreaking to see, but Lynn ended up shooting an incredible final round as well, but she shoots 65 to come back.

I think she started the day 11 strokes back and ends up winning it. Really cool event. I know we shout this out every year, but another mixed event, LET, DP World Tour, second time Lynn's won this event. So just absolutely beating it up. She won it by nine in 2022 over Henrik Stenson and Mark Warren. And then, yeah,

Callum Hill was another co-writer. But it's funny. The putt that Soderbergh missed to get into the playoff was not a long one. It was really, really, and it was for Bogie to shoot 76 to get into the playoff and he missed it, shot 77 and missed the and missed puff by one It was a very tough scene, but do you Jenny anybody to Steven Soderbergh? I'm pretty sure I'll double check that but yeah, I think so at least he's probably seen oceans 11 I'm guessing sure sure minimum all right. I think Lynn wanted her hometown as well Just always you know, I know Randy's gonna love that practically a home game First one here we go guys. Speaking of Scandinavian mixed,

there was a PGA Tour equivalent of the Scandinavian mixed. Not talking about the thing that they do in the fall, where would you hold it? What would the ideal format be? Start with Mr. DJ, you look like you're deep in thought. I was deep in thought, so I was hoping you wouldn't call on me. Okay, Neil.

No, no, no, I can answer. I would say yes, there should be. I think it would be super, super fun. I think it would be, you know, if I was gonna be pessimistic, you would probably get not all the top players and it would probably turn into kind of a Wendy's three tour challenge situation

and it would wither on the vine. Nate Laszlo's already gonna be furious about the T-markers for the women. They're too far up. Like, yeah. But moving all of those roadblocks aside, let's just say that you, you know, let's just say you could clear the decks on all of that

and everybody was fully invested and excited about it. I would have it at, I don't know, have it at Valhalla. I don't know, piss us off on the men's side. I think the women's game is actually gonna be great for the Solheim Cup, so I think you could stretch the men back as far as you possibly needed to, and I think actually the golf course would play

probably a little more interesting for the women. So have it at Valhalla, I think that'd be great. People of Kentucky deserve a good event like that. I mean, I just think they should start with the President's Cup. Of course. And like that, I know we've talked about that a lot of times, but that's just an easy answer.

I think the Pinehurst, US Open, and the men's and women's, you know, back-to-back weeks, I feel like Pinehurst would be an awesome spot for if you were gonna do a PGA Tour equivalent, that'd be a good spot to start it up. Harbertown was the first thing that came to mind for me. I think I'd just do it, that that'd be fun just to see the contrasting styles on that golf course.

Is there, I know whoever the main player is for Zurich, but it seems like there's a, you know, every year we get kind of crazy pairings, whoever the partners are, whether that's brothers, you know, the Fitzpatricks, the Brooks and Chase out there, which by the way, I haven't heard anything about how the amazing play of Chase Kepka all year since he got dumped by Liv. That's besides the point. But is there anything saying that like Nellie can,

couldn't be invited by any Scotty next year and Taylor made wants to do this and do a Zurich activation. Zurich should a hundred percent lean into it. Like they should. Yeah, I know. I mean, they should let them do that. I don't know if there's a bylaw that says, I mean, no, there's not because you had women play in the colonial and other men's events already. It feels like they could do that. I'm ready to see Nelly in a PJ tour event as well. That's maybe a separate question, but what else you got cooked up for us, Code? I got a lot of US Open questions, which will

This is a reward for everyone that stuck around till the end and watched it live perfect So of the crew who's all gonna be at the US Open David Jared is asking that it's just gonna be KVV There this he's he'll be arriving. I believe this week. He'll be writing. He'll be popping into live show all that but Gonna be taking it We're all gonna be taking the majors from home, watching on television just like everyone else and doing live shows after every single round. Happy hour on Wednesday. We'll have a preview podcast out Monday night as well.

We will give you our full depth of coverage, but all doing it from home, except for KVV. I think a bit of context on that. KVV will be there. We know he'll be writing his big Sunday Night Gamer. I think that's kind of our, you know, we've been taking so much. This is maybe inside baseball, but we're taking so much of, you know, info from a lot of these like old game stories and old SI stories. And, you know, it's kind of a shame. Like it's one of the things that's

kind of gone away in golf is, you know, I understand all the realities of why, but it's hard to send a writer there for like seven, eight days to just write one magazine story at the end of the week. So we've been trying to do that since we brought on KVV to like have, you know, build our own little archive and like, you know, when we get hopefully 10 years down the road, like, Hey, what did KVV say about Scotty's win at the masters? We can go back and look at it. So we know we'll have that in between that.

It's always kind of a bit of a grab bag. So I would almost encourage people like, let, let us know what KVV know, go on the refuge, drop us an email, let us know if you see something that you like. You know, the thing we always struggle with with the major championship coverage is like you can't treat every Thursday like it's Sunday and it can't be like, oh my God, Ricky Fowler is out to a one shot lead.

I need to write everything about Ricky today. I need to give it the full KVV treatment. What does it mean? What does humanity mean? You know, because Ricky's probably gonna make double on the first hole the next day and it kinda gets a little outdated. So we struggle a little bit on like what to do

that's not exactly like everybody else and what you know, still additive and kinda brings a good value. So we're always trying to figure out what that mix is. So interested to hear from people on that. Great answer. All right, this one's from Mr. David Stewart. Over, under, for winner next week,

send it at minus 5.5. I'm going over. Over as in lower? Lower, yes. As in like, I think it's gonna be closer to 10. Yeah, I'm with you. I agree, I think. I think it's like eight to 10 is where As in like, I think it's gonna be closer to 10. Yeah, I'm with you. I agree, I think. I think it's like eight to 10 is where I feel like,

after seeing the course, I will, at Piners a month ago, we have a film room out on YouTube. Ben and I played a match out there, but they are definitely gonna keep the surrounds shaggier. So there's not gonna be a lot of Martin Kimer just putting from everywhere. It was, it's not like shaggy shaggy, but it's definitely not going to be a lot of Martin Kimer just putting from everywhere. It was, it's not like, like shaggy shaggy, but it's definitely like, you just have this feeling.

I don't want to putt this if it's more than three yards off the green. You got to hammer it so hard and then it gets up on the tabletop and just goes forever. Yeah. It starts bouncing. Yeah. So they're going to be, they're going to force these guys to use wedges in, in, you know, short grass, which I think is a good update to the course for this go round. And then the other big update is they shrunk the fairway in on 13. They added a bunch of wire grass up the left side of 13, which is an awesome whole kind

of short par four up the hill. I don't know, like it made it really skinny and it's like, it almost feels like it's almost just as hard to hit the fairway with like iron. It's so skinny like back. I could see a lot of guys just trying to blast it up to you know because it almost gets like wider up towards the green just depends on how far back the tee is but that was the only other like major update that I noticed out there. You hit driver there.

I think so you hit driver Neil or Ben's like snap hook left. Ben hit the Molotov cocktail there. I did hit driver and I hit a really good one and it still crept into the wire grass, but I had like 80 yards, you know, and it's almost like maybe better to have a wedge into that green because you can kind of put it over the back of that green and it's a little, you know, a little safer back there. So I don't know, maybe I'm, maybe these guys are so good with iron that don't take my word for like Oh, that's we can definitely hit that fair with an iron. I have a check I think they're gonna play different teas and you guys played but I have to verify that as well I have a question coming off of that and and shouting out the film room Well, just real quick on weather

They're looking like some potential rain tonight of a half an inch in Pinehurst And then no but almost no wind projected this week seven six miles an hour for most of the week like Pinehurst isn't the kind of course that needs needs wind but like whenever the wind doesn't blow like a lot more golf courses They are gonna rip them apart. So yeah, low scores Sorry good to hear what I hear from that is that June and Pinehurst is notorious for like the craziest lightning storms that come out of nowhere. That's usually what happens that every time they host us open. Except for that foggy one you guys did an awesome look back on by the way go back and

look at the Pinehurst deep dive us opens phenomenal work. What oh I was gonna say so 10 years on now we talk about major championships and obviously you want to give a good thorough preview of what's going to happen. Do you guys think the fact that you've been to pine her so many times you've been around number two so many times you've seen the evolution of number two, like how much is that aiding in it versus this, you know, the prep work that you did for Valhalla or, you know, LACC, only TC and Sully ever get to play courses

like that, you know, if you can talk on that a little bit, we'll go with you first, Sully. DJ and Randy have played LACC as well. I'd have to, I have to venture that on invite, not just on US Open Media Day either. But, I mean, yeah, I have more affinity for it having gotten the chance to play it and like just having like truly the time of my life playing it, it's like, I believe I've declared it my favorite golf course I've ever played in the United States.

May have to update that after getting the chance to play Augusta National, but it's just like, there'll be no whining about golf courses and setup, maybe there might be setup whining, but there will be no discussion from us on the lack of test of this golf course. It tests so many different things and you get to see it up close and personal and we've seen it on television as well. You have to be in such control of your golf ball, it's a great balance of rewarding accuracy off the tee without overly narrow fairways. It's just kind of like you leave like the four four world four word review of it is like what we're talking about, which I think I used in Tora sauce about one of the courses I forget what it

was. But like this is kind of you guys never talked about the golf course you actually like like, it's this it's this exact one. It's the highlight of the year. In terms of the rotating venues, I think the rotating venues are quite weak on the obviously on the PGA championship side. I like WorldTruin. It's probably still one on the lower spectrum of open championship road of courses. Like Pinehurst is a anchor site for a great reason. And it is for modern professional men's golf. It's obviously be great for the women as well. But like this is the kind of test that's necessary of how can you get your golf ball to stop? Like that is a major, major, major question this coming week.

And not every golf course is like that. And the USGA and governing bodies and the PGA Tour are having trouble finding golf courses that ask that question. And I don't think that's going to be a problem this week. One thing I'd add to that was at media day, Wyndham Clark did a Q&A and I thought he had a really good quote about the course. He'd just played it for the, I think the first time like the day before and he said, you know, no hole really jumps out at you, but it's just a really like the full body of work. It's just such a strong collection of golf holes. And I think a criticism you could have if you haven't been to Pinehurst is like they all run together on TV. You know, it's a lot of like the look, it's like,

I don't get what's so special about it, but like there's just it's a collection of 18 really, really strong golf holes. And I think that for like a major venue is like exactly what you're looking for. I think there's a couple of standout holes, but I think the floor is very high at Pinehurst, which I appreciate. Donnie gets obviously all the credit for it, but a lot of people forget that, you know, he lived there for the vast majority of his adult life. He continued to work on that course for 50 years, needling away on it. And it's something that I think, you know, when you hear, like,

Jack's work is never done at Muirfield Village, and, like, these guys always trying to refine and make good. I think a lot of that comes from Donald Ross. Kind of cool to see. But another thing, question here from Gary Starkey. Should the Lido get a major championship or at least they look at a PGA Tour or at least at a tour stop?

I'll give DJ there first. You're putting me in a real bad spot here, Code Man, because my answer is gonna be no. I hate to go against, of course, my home state of Wisconsin. I got to play the Lido a couple weeks ago It's very very very very cool I would think tour players might shoot

65 under there probably It's you should maybe not this at all golf courses should be either about that thing or about what it is and it's it's They are having a US mid-am I believe in a couple years and if it gets spicy, like there are very interesting sections of greens and if it gets running out, like there are so many bunkers out there. It's all I have, I honestly, you need to come back and we can go play it because I'm very curious of your thoughts on the golf course because none of it,

TC and I were talking about it after we played, none of it feels like, I don't want to say it feels Like random but there are times where there's almost just so many bunkers that it's like dude Even if I knew that that was there which I didn't because a lot of them are like blind and like benched into the back Of hills and stuff. It's like even if I knew that that was there I'm not good enough to avoid like all of those so I've had to lay like so far back that it just Kind of ends up you kind of hit and like hope you don't bounce into one of those bunkers is a little bit of the golf course. But on the holes where it doesn't feel that way, there's some really, really good stuff.

But serious answer about a tour stop and stuff is, I mean, there's nowhere to stay. There's no hospitality. There's no, I don't know. I'm sure Wisconsin would show up as best that they could, but let's see how the US Mid-amp goes first before we do that. Can I ask a question maybe as we head towards wrapping and seeing some of the comments rolling in as well and something we deal with during every major championship discussion about golf courses is why do people associate like an exciting finish or a showdown with the quality of the golf course so heavily? That always amazes me. Is

Valhalla responsible for Xander and Bryson showdown in that? Or is like, why does that make it a quality golf course? That's not a fair criticism that we could have of a golf course. I guess people just don't want to think that hard. I don't mean that to be a dick. But it's like, what's the problem? Why can't you just enjoy the tournament and watch it, its entertainment? I think there's a lot of golf fans, or people that turn golf on on the weekend.

Might be something to that as well. And I don't disagree with them a little bit. I think that's a very valid take of, dude, why don't you just enjoy it? It was a cool shootout. And I guess the other argument they make is that's, what, three times in a row that? Vol Hollis had an awesome finish like I guess that's a you know, it's kind of hard to say that's coincidence, right?

Like there's been the first heavy weights going at it down the stretch first one wasn't awesome What do you know if you have one bad one? Do you get out of roaders as well? You know, I don't well I'm just I know you're still mad at the opposite argument. Yeah, just well because I think that there's a valid argument of like, it's not about the golf course. It should just be about the competition of like, I just want to see like two guys duke it out down the stretch. Like, you know, like we said last, during ball hall, it was like a member guest.

And like, I can think of a few like tournaments where you go to some crappy club and you're like, oh my God, this guy, is he going to make this putt? You know, like the drama is real. Like it of course doesn't matter. I don't agree with that completely, but I think, you know, I don't fault anybody for thinking that. I don't want to get my like width and angles card revoked here, but it's like, man, did I enjoy like Belle Reeve

and coming down the stretch there? Like, yeah, I did. Like, I don't know. Is that credit though? No, it's not. That's what a lot of fans tend to think, I think, sometimes. It's almost like one of those glowing brain memes where the brain just keeps getting brighter and brighter.

But you could almost argue that the less questions you're asking, the more you're going to guarantee that you're going to have a bunch leaderboard. And it's almost like the worst golf course, like the more drama you know you're going to have. Kind of. I agree with that. Yeah. So I don't know. I'm kind of getting to that, getting to that point as well, especially as like, you know,

everything we said about the transaction subcommittee and things of that nature. It's like, we're only going to get four of these that matter a year. Like would I rather have, like, would I rather be just like standing off my couch clapping because it's like, I'm so fucking proud. Scotty hit it to 30 feet there so that he can go on and win by nine. Or would I rather be like,

oh, there's like five guys in the mix that can win. And I can't wait to see what happens. It's like, voting for the, for B, but you know. Yeah. But for the U.S. Open, I do want it to be like a psychological evaluation like I'm down with the US Open B and I'm willing to risk Michael Campbell winning or of course you know or Kymer running like yeah you might get a bad winner but like when the golf course is kind of is the feature like for the US Open and the toughest test I'm in on that.

Do I need that for the PGA? I don't of course it doesn't matter quite as much for me for that tournament. I don't want to see him just like you know I don't want it to be a total birdie fest. Like I would like to see it play a little more strategic or tough, but it was a cool leaderboard. I think it would be different too if, and this is not even a shot or saying that the telecast should even do anything differently because this would be stupid. But like if you could really like sink in to, if you had way fewer players on the golf course or way fewer players, you were dedicated to actually like showing and you could really like sink in to if you had way fewer players on the golf course or way fewer players you were dedicated to actually like showing and you could really sink in and explain like the architectural significance of more shots.

I think that would be a different conversation. Like if you could do that at Augusta and you weren't trying to like it was like, hey, man, we're really only gonna we're gonna take like every shot from these two players rounds. shot from these two players rounds and we're going to talk through each shot and we're going to talk about like, who's got a good angle, who's got a bad angle, who's, you know, got a hanging lie, what that's going to do on the green, what, you know, where he's trying to pitch this versus stop it. Like if you could really take the time to sink into all of that stuff, I think it becomes a different conversation. But in reality, it's just like, holy shit, there's 35 guys we got to get to like, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.

And of course nobody's going to be like, well's 35 guys. We got to get to like go go go go go go go go and of course nobody's gonna be like Well, the reason he hit it to 12 feet was because of that kicker on the right and now he knows he has this putt And now you know what I mean, so like that stuff's never gonna shine through on TV Yeah, I think it's less about like angles is as much as like that as far as translating it's more about risk balance right of like written appreciation for like I know if you go at the back right pin at 12 at Augusta like everybody knows how risky that shot is right and that's kind of some of the stuff that was lacking it at You know, I I'd be curious to see if we feel like Piners has that right with not much wind and if there's any kind

Of softness as well. Like does that shine through of like Having the layer of appreciation for how good of a shot that just was because five balls got rejected in the previous groups I don't know I'm excited to find that out we're not gonna do too much Pioneer stuff tonight because we have plenty of preview stuff to preview we're gonna have a happy hour on Wednesday 4 p.m. Eastern we're gonna do our full Monday preview pod like we normally do we'll be live after every round Thursday Friday Saturday and Sunday right here on YouTube, Twitter, podcast feed, wherever you get your show.

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That's all I got. We had an interview podcast with Brannel Chamblis this past week as well on top of our deep dive into the past three Pinehurst US Opens, those are on our podcast YouTube channel, if you wanna watch the video versions of those, they're also on your podcast feed if you haven't gotten to those.

But if you can't wait any longer, if you can't make it to Monday night for our preview episode, which I just did a long drive, now I kinda get some of the vibe of like, dude, need more episodes, need more podcast episodes, keep them coming, keep them coming. No, I listened to the whole Pinehurst deep dive on a three hour drive this weekend. It was delightful guys. I really enjoyed it. I'm over the Karen Lee trial right now.

I also want to shout out Tura Sauce finished up this past week, our ninth season of Tura Sauce. If you were waiting for all the episodes to drop, I can report they have all dropped. There are eight of them. Please go watch those. Thank you very much to our friends at Precision Pro for making that season possible. And also Cody, I would shout out the video you do with Corey Lumberg and Al Higgs down at Trinity Forest is very cool. This was brought to you by Serv Pro. If you guys are curious, just you know what, what high

end players are working on game management wise. How are they attacking golf holes? Al obviously caddied for his brother Harry for a long time on the PGA Tour good player in his own right. Corey works with guys like Mark Hubbard and Harry as well. Lots of good insights there and then get into your own your own golf game a little bit as well. So we're gonna be doing more of these videos seem like people really, really liked it. Just, you know, informal straw poll of the comment section, which is good

because we've got, we've got some more of these coming up. I believe Ben is coming up next. Uh, so yeah, Cody, anything else to add on that? No, it was awesome. Excited to see what team Altus does this week at, uh, at Pinehurst though, but super appreciate everybody, all the good comments and, uh, my, uh, my golf game. I'm in trouble right now, guys. You saw me a couple of weeks ago.

I got so many swing thoughts. I got body feels going on. We got a TPI thing coming out later on. I've been kicking butt in the gym, but my golf swing just doesn't feel the same. I don't know. It, this is, I'm in one of those frustrating points of swing changes where you're just like, I just, I wanna get to the finish so I can go out and like have fun and hit good shots again,

but it's just not lining up. So go watch the video and see how I ended up here. Guys, I was totally convinced. I found the swing feel of all swing feels. It did not last 20, it didn't last 24 hours. It did not, It's gone. We've lost it. It's gone.

So, all right, let's get out of here. We said we were gonna do an hour and a half tonight. We just can't, we can't stop talking. Too much to talk about. Too much content coming this week as well. Stay subscribed. Appreciate you. Thank you, HiNoon, Oars and Alps,

Robeck, Cody, Neil, DJ, Jordan running the socials. Thanks everyone for tuning in. We'll see you back here all week. Major championship week. Let's get it. Peace.