No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 853 - 2024 U.S. Open Happy Hour

Episode Date: June 12, 2024

Final prep is complete for the 2024 U.S. Open at Pinehurst. We run down some news and notes, bring KVV in from the bullpen to discuss his latest Rory piece, identify some key features around No. 2, make our final picks and more. If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining The Nest: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at nolayingup.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club. Be the right club today. Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different? Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. Happy Hour edition, no layinging Up live show presented, as always, by our friends at High Noon. Solly is here. The Pie Man is here.

Hasn't been live with us in quite some time. Hello, Dej. Great to be with you guys. Hello. Thank you for having me on your program. What a week, man. We only get four of these a year. We got a great venue.

I'm chuffed, buzzing. The Bullets back, TC. Absolutely loving life. I've been absolutely Binging live from just had it on all day. I've watched some of the same segments on repeat I'm not even I'm not even mad. They're replaying all these segments TC is here representing the doquito on his hat. Hello, mr TC hello, I'm waiting on my my core Crenshaw had to show up or my my D my shot had to show up or my my D my DRSS. Yeah, Hearst pops.

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in major championships for some themes and things on that. So close. So close. Got some player quotes. We're going to make our Fandel picks of the week. Cody's maybe doing a little Pinehurst history section for us as well. Just notebook dump and get everything else out

that we can go through a couple of questions and kick it off from there. But top news of the week, John Rahm has withdrawn because of a toe infection or as Lee Neil has called a long time ago, a lesion 23 in between his small and two smallest toes on his foot. Don't have a lot to add here other than this is a major bummer and we're definitely all worse off for not having Rahm competing this week except for Justin Super. Here, here, that is a major bummer and we're definitely all worse off for not having ROM competing this week. Except for Jackson Super. Here here. That's a bummer, man. I, we don't get to, you know, I'm not trying to throw any shade, but we don't get to see ROM as much as we, as much as we used to. And I love

watching him in these majors. And it's been a significant bummer, especially as Scotty just kind of lifts and separates and ascends. It kind of seems like, you know, I was listening to the preview show and we talked about it a little bit on Sunday night that Scotty just really, really needs like a contemporary man. He needs someone to go toe to toe with and like, gosh, Rom could be that dude. And it's been a bummer the last couple of majors to not really see him be involved. So it's another one that we're going to miss out on. Just on a personal note,

can you imagine the odds we could have gotten when we started first making those lesion jokes that like Rom's literally going to say this word and he's going to WD because of a lesion? I don't know what that would have been like plus a hundred thousand to try to get somebody to take that bet. It's just insane. So art imitating life, you know, golf continues to have the greatest script writers in the game. It's just, it's incredible. And if you missed it, Neil, like honestly, called his team Legion 23 instead of Legion 13.

Like that was the genesis of this way back several months ago. And yeah, we did not see this one coming. So it's an infection. It's not gout. Like Bunky Perkins keeps saying it's gout. It's not gout. It's not gout. It's not gout. I wouldn't wish gout upon anyone. How does your foot get infected? Did he step on a toy or something? I mean, what is this guy's deal? Well, Cody's angrying from all that money, I think.

Yeah, Cody said this on Sunday. Cody, you're talking about you get these infections all the time Don't want to talk about that again My foot hygiene for DJ you brought it up what an own goal by you You guys have never had any like infection or anything happen on your feet before? I had some warts when I was a kid. Hey, you know, I had a big surgery last year. Okay, we're gonna lose so many viewers. So we're gonna pick up some different viewers though, baby.

Honestly, what happened is blisters, double blisters, any little punctures in there where sweat just happens to, it's so easy to get infected in there and very, very hard to keep dry and to clean out. It's crazy that it's in between there. Like, I don't know, I stub my toes sometimes, I trip and fall on the girls' toys and stuff like that. I wanna know how did this thing happen? That's what I'm saying.

He's happy though. All right, guys, don't ask him if he's happy or not. I'm gonna agree he's happy. Other news as well, Rory's divorce is off or his marriage is back on. Um, I do not have a lot to react to on this one other than, uh, you know, maybe maybe people thought he was going to get a boost TCI. They, I believe, picked him for not to win and then to win when he found out he was getting divorced at the PGA. I don't know if this shifts any any any line prediction for this week as well, but happy for them that the divorce is off.

I don't know how to phrase that properly, but they are- You don't make up his mind. Yeah. You know what I was thinking about? I was listening to the preview, as I mentioned. Great job by you guys. Really enjoyed the preview podcast. You know what?

Much like a kind of PE group here, I think I'm going to swoop in and buy the block party as it's at its lowest. The whole thing? Yeah, I think I'm just going to scoop it up. You're stripping it down for parts or what are you doing? Yeah, it's kind of a distressed asset. I don't quite know what we're going to do with it yet, but if Neil's going to let it just go fallow and go to waste, then-

Cody, get your ass back in here. We're an activist investor. Cody and I have kind of put together an ownership group and I think it's the right time for go fallow and go to waste then. Cody, get your ass back in here. We're an activist investor. Cody and I have kind of put together an ownership group and I think it's the right time for us to make a move. And I don't know that we're gonna have a lot to do this year. It will be open. I can't speak to the experience fans will have there,

but it'll be open. And I think Cody, we've got a nice asset on our hands going forward. I am firmly, I'm full-time second in command of the block party. I just want you to know, before you take the reins of this, it's a heavy burden. It weighs down on your shoulders, there's a lot involved, and that's what, you know, Neil, his Tour of Duty, just, you know, it's like the submarine life. You know, you can only be a sub-commander for so long before you start to lose your mind, and that's clearly what happened to Neil. Now, if I would ask him, this is obviously before Rory figured

out whatever is going to go on with his life. Turns out maybe he just didn't want to sleep on the couch for a couple of weeks because he got in trouble or something realized that he didn't have to get divorced. Who knows? But, uh, you know, I just want you to be prepared for everything that you have going on because I think Neil currently regrets the decision that he made with the new news that's come to light. Yeah, I mean, who knows? It could be like buying a bunch of

blockbusters, you know, and thinking you're going to turn them around. Maybe maybe it's a it's a bet that we don't win on but I mean, last week on game style. It's a great course fit guys. Keep keep talking yourself into it. Yeah, totally. Totally. I also have a fan duel bet about him to make a bogey at number three, which we'll talk about later. But I'm hedging I'm hedging. I'm hedging. And I think we can all agree the biggest story of the week so far, uh,

exploding seats, uh, you know, in the grandstands. I know TC was absolutely chuffed and the put my media hat on. Your safety officer hat on TC. You're just looking out for the people. Yeah. I mean that was, that was based on eyewitness reports. Many reports. And the Pinehurst members Facebook group, which I can store as well. So I know you've been a long time active member. Yeah, we're talking about an activist investor. Yeah, no. So like this was a real thing. It sounds like they've gotten under control. I do. For those that missed it, could you could you spell out what

was kind of going on? Yeah, this this seats were straight up snapping off. That's what I said. I broke it down. What more do you need to know? Dej? I guess it was a big issue over the grandstand near like that four or five six like three four or five six crossing right there and then again over by 18 the build out looks fantastic i'm not trying to take any shine off of the usga off of our good friends of pinehurst off of anybody it just sounds like they they you know rome wasn't built in a day lesion 13 wasn't built today it sounds like this this build out they tried to build it in a couple of days and had to go back and tighten some screws and recheck some things.

We had KVV out there testing them, I believe, just like he was testing the trees back in when they fell last year at the Masters. That was his block again. I feel much like Rory. I've ebbed and flowed and I've changed my major championship prep over the years. And I'm kind of at a point now where, you know, Monday, Tuesday, I'm not even playing nine anymore. I've got, you know, there's so many stories. There's so many people just wearing themselves out.

I'm seeing Charlie Woods as a player consultant, people beating that one up. I'm seeing these chairs just exploding. I'm like, ah, TC's on that one. I don't need to worry about that. You know, it's just, you come'm like, oh, TC's on that one. I don't need to worry about that. You come in fresh, you get a cup of coffee Wednesday morning, you read everything you can, you're ready to go and you go try to post a score on Thursday. That's kind of where I'm at. That's a take that I've been really leaning into this week. I do not care what the golf course looks like on Monday, Tuesday. Today, I'll start paying

attention to stuff because otherwise I just work myself up into a fever pitch. This week, it was a good fever pitch because everything, I think my expectations might be for too much carnage now. Now I need to- Exactly. You got to level out. I got to level that out. But by this point in the Valhalla week, I was despondent and ready to jump off a bridge. You know, not just just the full level of full full spectrum of midweek emotions. It just for the record, I'm hoping everything's okay. I know you had well, every week's busy TC I know, but even privately

have not gotten one message from TC this week in our slack about the fact they've been watering some of the greens. I just find they have to water otherwise. Otherwise they're going to completely lose the golf court. Oh, God. Okay, Cody, mark that timestamp and let's save that for 25 years of US Open stuff, just in case we ever need that sound clip ever again. That's fantastic. But on that note, pioneers, I believe the phrase is bucking. Windham Clark said on Monday, the greens are already borderline. I'm trying to get to the bottom of this. I've asked as many players as I possibly could of like, hey,

I got other media members texting me like, are you hearing what I'm hearing about these greens like balls rolling off them, but a lot of players are freaking out. Like, is it unfair? Is it the consensus I'm getting is no, that it's not unfair in any way. Is this just typical pampered Fox like trying to lobby the USGA to make sure they throw some water on them ahead of Thursday, get ahead of it? Is this a US Open tradition at this point complaining early week about setup already? I think so. I think so. A blow pig. I mean, especially if you really get down and think about it, it's like you've got guys playing full PJ

Tour schedules. Like I said at the front, you only get four of these majors. Augustas loves to kind of ramp it up throughout the week and then almost like taper back on, you know, depending on how the leaderboard looks. The open championships never like crazy, crazy firm or unfair, just because it's all dependent on conditions and the PGA is, you know, I don't think we need to say much more about the setup at the PGA. So it's like, so realistically it's like, this is just such a rare occurrence, I feel like for these guys. So like, go back, Cody, you recommended, you know,

going and reading or watching the USDA press conference. John Bowden hammer had so many comments was like effusive in saying like, we are taking more player, you know, comments and concerns into account. We are going to be be tough but fair. We're gonna push it to the edge, but we understand, like everything about that press conference to me was just like, we are not gonna do anything stupid. We're not gonna push it to outrageous lengths,

which we can debate how we feel about that. But I think it's just gonna be, like they said, it's gonna be a tough but fair test. And that's not something these guys see all that much. So I'm with you TC that like, I almost had to temper my expectations because I'm like, God, these guys are complaining so much. This could be, this could be like 630 in the morning on Thursday, like they could lose the golf course and I need to be watching this

first thing. And it's like, you can't set your expectations too high. A lot of these guys are, I think maybe just being a little bitchy. And you know, they're kind of reacting to something they don't see all that often. I think it's uh you know pace of play was we're talking to a couple guys are like yeah it's like disaster just awful awful practice around times and everything out there so I think they need to get through Thursday Friday. My I think my issue in the past has been like L LACC, for instance, it's in the mid 70s with cloud cover, like you're not going to lose the golf course. This is like, it's in the mid 90s. And it's the sun is out and there's a little bit of wind like, yes, like you can water it a little bit. That's fine. It's also a proper golf course, like all the green like this, there's short grass everywhere, you want it to play firm and fast, but no amount of water is really going to take that much teeth out of it. Right? Yeah. And, you know, it's it's gonna be, they can't lose it if

you don't have wind, right? Like I'm just not, they can push it to a pretty strong level if they really want to sounds like they already will. Bo Dahmer said they're stimming about 13 and a half, I think he, he said, which is outrageously fast code, if you can don't mind showing, John Wood was on Live From earlier this, earlier today, and they flashed a bunch of stuff from from his yardage books on a bunch of greens, and just showed like, there's going to be some conversations around unfair, even from fans like watching some stuff of like, the players have this information, players and caddies had this information where you're going to see balls trickle off all sides of greens Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. That, you know, what looks like might be a good shot, might end up trickling

all the way off the green. But that is just because like, this isn't going to be highlighted on the broadcast. Like, here's where the actual green is, and here's where everything's going to roll away. Right? And so I'm really excited to see it. It was a really cool image here of just saying like, you know, all these false fronts, unfair, blah, blah, blah. It's like, no, there's a green there. It's just tiny. The actual green is tiny, right? And so much of the guy who's gonna win this, like I see these shapes and I'm like, ooh, Brooks, man.

Brooks is really freaking good at hitting it to the really, really safe spot of the green. Now, Scottie Scheffler also is, and I can't get that one out of my head, but this was just really, really good content from John Wood and live from of showing like, hole by hole, these guys know what are the complete no go zones. And if they act stunned, when a ball

rolls off, they should not be like this. They know exactly this is exactly what the challenge is this week. Something else too, that I think is different from maybe I'm not sure when this changed exactly, but versus previous decades, it seemed like they tried to ramp the course up towards Thursday, Friday, Saturday, whereas now it seems like they try to go into the week with the court, hey, here's what you're going to see during the tournament days. We're going to get the course to like a nine out of 10 of what it's going to be instead of, you know, having them be surprised on Thursday morning when they tee it up. And

I think that in concert with that has led to more bitching and complaining because it's just more early week bitching and complaining. Right? Well, there's good guys are soft as shit to like, let's just some of them. Not all of them. I mean, like some of the guys I've touched were like, no fucking bring it on, dude. Like bring it. I love this one guy's this my favorite setup I've ever played. Right. So like, it's not like everyone's just whiny and bitchy about it. Like it's, you know, it's just couple and

Wyndham in his defense was not that whiny just like made the point of like, dude, it's already like, whoof, I'm sure some of the whole locations are using a practice rounds to are pretty close to some of those edges and border port, like literally borderline hole locations just to stay out of the meat of, there's not that much, there's not that much pinnable space at 13 and a half on these screens to use.

So they probably saw some pretty extreme stuff in practice rounds. What I always go back to as well, and it's all I know you probably think about this a lot too is like the President's Cup at Roe, Melbourne, like watching how befuddled those guys looked for maybe the first like two days like they're such fast learners that like yeah Monday Tuesday they might be

like holy shit this is different whoa this is good and then by Thursday they're gonna be fine they're gonna figure out where to miss they're gonna figure out what's safe they're gonna figure out what's not and I still think like you know winning scores are gonna be under par I think you know it's not like it's gonna we're gonna get into some world where it's 12 over like winning this just because guys put it off the green once on Monday. 100%.

And that's again, that's one. I will say this on Wyndham's quotes that he gave, he is kinda at a disadvantage there. He's admitted that he's only played the golf course one time when he was here prior for the US Open Media Day and he of course defending champion is the first press conference on the docket. So I'm sure if you went back and asked him now. Does it have to state that? day and he of course defending champion is the first press conference on the on the docket. So

I'm sure if you went back and asked him now. Well, I understand. But you know, professional golfers, they like controllables. And this is something like this is their new putting surfaces are different green, there's contours runoffs all over the place, they're just not used to it. And when you put like players who are so used to being in complete control of how their ball moves, everything they're, they're like, how it's going, they're they don't like it. And I think that's a good thing about the US Open, what the USGA does is that they're going to put them in uncomfortable positions. And I think that's the best part about

Pinehurst is that part of that being in uncomfortable position is because the ball is on the ground and it's running. And they don't like it when it's running because they can't control where the outcome where it's gonna end up at and can I just give? a massive shout out as we you know hamster kickoff hamster damn for the week of like What they've done with Johnson Wagner and live from in all these player segments. It's been That is serving the golf sicko, right? I I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like you just engaged every sports fan ever and like your ratings are gonna go through the roof.

Like that's investing in the product, walking with Cam Smith, walking with Harry Higgs, Xander, Max, like, you know, I run out, like he did so many segments asking how guys are gonna play chips. I watched the Harry Higgs one twice today because I couldn't turn it off. I was like, maybe I missed something the first time around.

Like that's the kind of stuff that, you know, we know they're capable of and capable producing John's channel at that It was great Johnson's Johnson might be single-handedly saving the channel. He might make it remaking of the golf chat You know what? We'll call it the golf channel this week because they're they're covering some golf this weekend grander not showing the actual golf. That's on USA but Mark are Wilson 77 said weather looks ideal this firm, fast and hopefully controllable by the powers that be. If we instead had Valhalla's conditions, how would that affect the open test? Would the core stand up? Are we

too reliant on Goldilocks conditions these days for a great setup? This was a great question. I just like, like, I think even if it was drenched city USA, it would still be 100 times better than than it was at Valhalla and that some of that's the sandy soil And the way that the place can drain and play I played there when it's wet I mean, I was kind of confused with with Hovland saying that the greens are kind of soft and receptive which was Strange I thought but Cody it also I apologize to everybody. Cody's using that weather bug. All that's to say the models are in alignment across. So maybe a few

stray afternoon thundershowers, Friday, Saturday, but the models are in alignment and everybody should be just, the weather's not going to be a factor. There's no need to drown the people in data unnecessarily outside of Friday afternoon gonna be just the hottest day of the week It's gonna be hottest balls out there. So I don't know Astro glide powder or whatever you guys need to survive, but it's gonna be warm. Yeah On the on the question that they asked you is like I think Pinehurst is a bit of a unicorn just because of the pins, right? And it's kind of one of those places that like, depending on like the pin locations, it's truly like a different golf course, depending on where you want to put them.

I loved, I'll probably reference it a couple of times, but Garrett and the Fried Egg did an architects round table, just kind of breaking down a lot of the different nuances. Saul, you read a question during the preview show about like, how do you know, do I need to take notes in front of the telecast? How do I learn some of this stuff? Read stuff like that. Smart people talking about golf courses that they know really, really well, but they were talking about, uh,

specifically the 14th hole and how that front left section is all plays at grade and there's probably about 20, 30 yards that like just makes that like margin for error so small and then just like as you continue to get further and further back on that green it's almost like walking the plank like the more and more narrow that green gets back there is like when the pin is front left it feels like a birdie hole and when the pin is in the back it feels like you're trying not to make double and I feel like Pinehurst has that on like most of these holes where it's like, man, you can even if it's

soft, even if it's, you know, hot and wet and humid and whatever, you can still put the pins in places that are just like, really hard to get at. And they might not, you know, again, they might not be like 10 over 12 over type of places, but they're, they're not going to be 20 under either. Because I think to Mark's question, like, this the perfect setup. They've had way more rain leading up into this than they had in 2014. They've cited that a couple of times. I think we're seeing Pinehurst withstand the weather they've had. It's been good the last couple of weeks, but

withstand the weather they've had so far this spring and present really well. Whereas Valhalla was just wet and there's nowhere to go. There's nowhere for that water to go. It's just not the same depth of venue. Yeah, so like, yeah, bad design and also just like, if you're gonna be in a climate where you're relying on the Goldilocks weather, that's just a risky endeavor, right? Whereas, Pinehurst in the worst possible shape would still be a really interesting test. I think Pinehurst is the closest thing that the United States has to like true championship links golf. Yes. Like, you know, whether that's Trune or Birkdale or, you know, Hoylake or St. Andrews or whatever, it's, yeah, the greens are a little bit different or they're a little bit more

turned up in spots than a traditional links golf course, but just the way that the way that it plays, course, but just the way that the way that it plays, you know, on the ground, the types of grasses, it's just it just feels a lot more linksy than anywhere else that we've had an American major championship, other than say, Shinnecock, but even Shinnecock feels more through the air than this. Well, it's the soil. Again, you can't like we talked about the sand and the sandhills and everything else like that. There's a reason why you can get it that firm even with rain. Like I don't think that having it being overly wet right now or more rain than I guess they had in 2014 is truly like a

detriment because the ball is still moving and it's moving extremely fast. And I think that has allowed them, especially on the runoff areas and like these aprons that they have, to grow it up a little bit. There's more grass there than we saw in 2014, which I know we highlighted in the social video that it was awesome work by Ben putting it together,

but it's gonna make people think about different shots instead of just pulling the putter out. I hope it does. The more segments I watch that, the more I'm like, ah, by the end of the week they might just pulling the putter out. I hope it does. The more segments I watch that the more I'm like, by the end of the week they might just be pulling putter. That's one of my few concerns going into this. I know that they've designed it this way to make you think about more than putter, but I'm worried that guys are just going to end up there. But that's to be seen. If you hit it with putter, you could have it go all the way up there and then roll all the way back

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Going back to last week at Memorial, you know, people hit it offline or people hit it green. You're basically only seeing players hit one shot. There's only one option. And that players hit one shot, there's only one option. And that turns into it being somewhat one-dimensional and not, honestly, not very exciting. And I think a course like this definitely demands a different skill set and also some creativity. And I think that'll be on display this week. And I've already seen some videos online of people maybe trying fairway woods, or having lob wedges, or putters, or even if you get half lucky and get a decent lie in that wire grass, sandy area, being able to hit a recovery shot. So I think for the viewer at home that's more exciting than just seeing guys hack out a four inch rough

all the time. So, you know, hopefully that comes to fruition and it is an exciting golf tournament. Man, I just wonder how Rory gravitates towards these no laying up and fried egg, you know, podcast. I don't know, I don't know. I can't figure it out. Why, you know, what?

I don't know. I don't know. I don't I can't I can't figure it out. Why you know I think the Yeah, what's so exciting about that is like and this is pretty obvious but like demands to be kind of Circled bolded underlined is like not only does the ball keep rolling like it keeps rolling and keeps rolling and keeps rolling the ball gets So far away from the pin if you miss here that it's not just like little collection areas It's like dude It can keep going for a long time because there's you know, there's only one cut out there, right? There's nothing really to to slow it down and all these things are pushed up so much in in most of the spots that like It just ah, it's gonna be the best there. There's no tougher combo. I don't think than like

trying to to Elevate something and then stop it immediately on firm fast screens is just the anticipation such a good word for this week because it's anticipation of what your ball is going to do as it's on the ground and i think there's also the anticipation of walking up yeah if you've missed the fairway walking up to your ball and seeing all right am I boned here or do I have a shot? Martin Kimer had some quotes as well. Yeah, play those. I was a little bit overwhelmed this morning when I played the first four or five holes.

I said to my caddy, has it been that hard 10 years ago? Was it that difficult to hit the greens in the first place and then make the up and downs? Because the grass is obviously a little bit greener than 10 years ago. It was very hard and very tight around the greens. So it was fairly easy to use the Texas wedge back then. Right now it's a little bit more tricky because the ball bounces a little bit more around the greens So I found it really hard The way the golf course played today and as you mentioned especially around the greens, you know to make up and downs is It's gonna be a good challenge. I Love that it reminded me of Phil when he when he like was tanking at the players that one year and he's like

How did I ever win here? Like how did this this happen? He's clearly just a totally different vibe and feel for him this week. I mean, that was such a massive part of his success last time though was being able to putt from everywhere. And if they kind of fix that cheat code, which like you said, remains to be seen, whether that comes to fruition or not. But if they fix that cheat code,

I think the great golf course gets only better. Kymer's also awesome to listen to. He's so underrated, and that was my favorite part of that 2014 US Open was every day he had to come in the media center because he was leading wire to wire, and by Friday, Saturday, he was just like, dude, I don't know what else I can, I'm trying so hard to come up with new ways

to explain why I'm playing so well. I just don't have that many more answers to these questions and also English is my second language. Yeah Always love hearing from the captain TC I I know and I agree with you that that you know, you might end up seeing a lot of putters here I think the biggest thing that's different and I'll say this from my local stance and I'm very very fortunate that I used to My next-door neighbor used to my next door neighbor used to be the head superintendent at Pinehurst. He retired the house, the guy that purchased my house when I moved. I was shot at her party. He had to retire. He is the current head superintendent

at Pinehurst. In 2014, they not only rolled the greens, they rolled the false fronts and they rolled the approaches. They wanted to play it so people could play the ground game and get up there because they were so worried about how they were gonna react coming from 2005 to 2014, and it being so different to all of them. So they rolled it and they made sure that it was extremely smooth. I think that's gonna be a huge part in this as well,

because you'll see sometimes they'll roll up and get over these false fronts, very, very smooth. And sometimes they, but you know, bounce up, down, left, right, you name it. Uh, I think that's just going to add more to it. Very grain dependent too. Well, listen guys, we, we have somebody on the ground. He's been on the ground this week and he's, he's seen more of the golf course than we have. And he, he wrote a piece that went up on no laying up.com about, uh,

Rory's last 37 attempts at major championships, which have not come with a title. That's Mr. Kevin van Valkenburg, of course, KVV, joining us live from the Media Center. Hello, Kev, how are you, buddy? I'm like Martin Keimer. I don't know how to keep talking about these bangers I keep writing to each other. I've got nothing to say, but like, my humble self. Guys, I'm reluctant to report, just came in from watching Kymer and Rory play a practice round using a lot of putters and doing it effectively. So I would not get your hopes up.

No, the first choice is always the putter. And I saw a lot of balls roll right towards the cups or the pins and then they would go back and kind of humor it and get a wedge out. But I think they're gonna putt it. I think even though, even with the putting though, it's a little bit different this year because it's Bermuda greens. There's bank greens last go around. There's more, there's grain, there's down grain. There's, I think, I just like there's more variables. We've seen Tiger

playing with the four iron there too. He's been bumping that four iron around. Victor seems like he wants to play lob wedge. Who knows what Victor wants to do? We'll get to Victor. Victor may not know even tonight. He may choose something different in the morning, Wem rep session. So I think that's what's so cool about this though too is like, well, isn't that the rule of thumb? Like if you're trying to hole it, you chip it. And if you're trying to, you know, to putt, you use the putter. So like maybe, maybe when guys start to feel a little stress or they, they, you know, we still might, you use the putter. So like maybe when guys start to feel a little stress

or they, you know, we still might catch them with their hand in the cookie jar. Let's not lose hope yet. So you look back at the last 37 majors Royce played from when he won Valhalla in 2014, all the way up to last month's PGA championship of Valhalla, you end up writing, I think 9,000 words about what unfolded during that decade.

Why, why, why did you do this? Why would you do this to yourself? Thanks to during that decade. Why Why Why did you do this? Why would you do this to yourself? All of us? Let me do this. You know what, I thought this would be a fun exercise just to sort of, you know, write a few little snippets about each major and I guess I kept going through transcripts and I kept going through newspaper accounts of anything and it just kept getting larger and larger and I was like, Oh, this will be fine. And then I got to like 2019.

And I was like at 6000 words. I was like, Oh, this will be fine. And then I got to like 2019 and I was like at 6,000 words. I was like, what the frick happened here? But honestly, it, I think it provides like a really interesting historical document of just how many different ways Rory has tried to get out of his own head, whether it's different coaches, whether it's different swing techniques, whether it's different mental approaches, whether it's juggling or meditation or being super aggressive or being conservative and smart. He just cannot seem to find one way that works. And so you would say on one level, like, well, at least he's trying different things. He's not just beating his head against the wall. But when you add it all up, it's the volatility that sort of comes through the most. He just does not have a consistent sort of approach. It'd

be like someone playing blackjack and coming up with a different strategy like every single time. Sort of approach it'd be like someone playing blackjack and coming up with a different strategy like every single time Honestly sounds well like I approach every round of golf like oh, this is my swing feel now Nope. Now, this is my swing feel down. Nope. I got it. I got it I think it speaks to also QB I mean, I know you kind of spelled this out up top But you could do this for any player but man like really zooming in and zooming in and zooming in and zooming in and just being like Here's how many flights it was. Here's zooming in and just being like, here's how many flights it was, here's how many practice rounds it was, here's how many nights in hotels, here's how many nights in the back of his head is just like, God, I just want to win a fucking major

with like doing all of that stuff was just, it was really great. I was a good one. Shout out to my editor Chris Hollman for helping me think through that part because that was an excellent addition there. At least 259 nights in a hotel just over those majors that he hasn't won. I was trying to do the math on that though I mean he came in if he came in a day late to Augusta that's only 258 or something like that. That's true. Well, technically too. It's 36 majors that he played in. It's 37 if you count the old course one that he missed because of the ankle but Jordan and I discussed that kind of at length.

And like, I feel like that's a miss. Like that's an opportunity that only comes around every five or six years. You get to play the old course, you're always going to be like one of the dudes there. And so I think we kind of ultimately decided like to kind of count that amongst the missed opportunities in the majors.

Well, and I think, you know, reading it too, it kind of comes, it's pretty obvious. Like there's only been, well, how many close calls would you say there actually were? Times where he was in contention on Sunday of a major. I mean, there's 2018 Masters. I mean, you just, you went through them all. What are the close calls and kind of, it's kind of staggering just to look at that out of 37 misses.

What's interesting is he doesn't even count 2018 Masters as an actual close call because he was essentially out of it by the back nine. You know, he he had that eagle putt on two. It would have tied him for the lead, missed it. And then it was like it all kind of came un-blued from there at bogey three. Never really was totally weird day, kind of surreal being on the grounds that day. He so 2018 car news team, he was tied to the lead with with nine to go. US Open at Brookline. He was in it, but not super in it. US open at Tory, definitely like a shot off the lead with nine to play.

And then St. Andrews, the 22 open and then the LACC. That's really it in terms of true actual, like I was in the fire with nine holes to play. Bulls, you can kind of expand the map a little bit. And there's other ones where he had two good rounds and then kind of expand the map a little bit. And there's other ones where he had two good rounds and then kind of fumbled it in the third or he, you know, was just kind of hanging around the lead, but never really that serious. And you go back like even Chambers Bay 15, he's within three of the lead at one

point, but never really felt like he was super in contention there. Just didn't put himself into contention enough times, right? It just, he needed more, more reps. into contention enough times, right? It just, he needed more, more reps. So famously, at the PGA Championship at 2022, you wrote off Justin Thomas, he came back and won that one. You did a big deep dive onto Victor Hovland, head of the PGA last time around, he almost won that one. Do we have like a reverse jinx thing going here with Rory? Is there is there hope to be had here? I never, like I said, I don't want like talking about my fund and how we make our investments, but I obviously knew this piece was coming and, and you know, Cody and I figured this

would probably be a good way to maybe get ahead of the markets. KVV was dropping a big Rory bomb. You know, it's all used to talk about the L you podcast bump. A lot of people are saying the writing, but writing is coming back. The kids are, they're all trying on different writing. They're getting it at their retro shops around here. It's the new thing. So maybe in a Zen and then just starting to write.

Exactly. She lamb lambs into the Zen game TC. I don't know if you saw that post. He's like discovered Zen. It's crazy. Anyway, I think there's a chance he could play well here played well here in 14. I don't you know, on all seriousness, like I don't think he I think he's a chance he could play well here. He played well here in 14. I don't, you know, in all seriousness, like I don't think he,

I think he's very much in his own bubble right now. He's not looking at social media. He's not chatting it up with the media during practice rounds. He's just kind of locked in, listened to him, talked to Martin Kimer for a while about, thank God Liv came along to bump all these purses, but the model that we have now is totally unsustainable

and the sponsors are pissed and TV's pissed. So you still, it's like funny to hear him talk the the the the the the the the the pretty darn well in the practice round like he's absolutely murdering driver in a way that looks like greek gods throwing lightning bolts but that's not that that changes everything yeah guys winter i've never seen that before calculus kvb do you have like a gold medal like it kind

of looks like one of those Olympic medal it's just a credential those ribbons that you would it's so thick that you would put a medal on the bottom. It's an Olympic year, TC. They gave him a medal after this Rory thing. Thank you. Thank you for everything you do in life, KVB. There's some unofficial media awards taking place on Friday. I think it's kind of like the Michael Scott Olympics

in the office episode. We're gonna crown various members of media, Joel Beale and Shane Ryan are kind of running it. So I'm very excited about that. It's kind of the thing I'm most excited about the week. See if I can squeak in and get an award. So perhaps these will be kind of our badges for those metal things. So this is my roadster. Also, people are asking if you're trying to grow the game with your hat.

Yes. This is, you know what? So I'll turn this around real quick because I got some comments from people about how I was trying to look young and I was basically like, no, this hat just sits up too high on my head. It makes me kind of look like an idiot. I was trying to look young and I was basically like, no, this hat just sits up too high on my head. It makes me kind of look like an idiot. So I had to kind of flip it around and just hope that that was, you know, not me trying to look like a, you know, a hipster dad. But, uh, yeah, that's, uh, I don't know. I might have to go back to that. Yeah, exactly. DJ KVV.

Let's, we're gonna, we're gonna get you out of here. That was fun with me. It it it it anything else on the ground stick out to you that's worthwhile of note that could inform viewers before they turn the TV on tomorrow. Uh it is hot. So at least then you know the cat's body won't need uh sort of time to to get warm. I think uh there's a lot of sweat going on out there. That's gonna be, you know, interesting. I mean, talk to ZB real quick on the range. TC for got kicked off the range this

morning. He said, said, Hey, what's up? He's striping it out. If ZB is ever going to finish top 10 in a major, this would be like a great opportunity, right? Like you same thing. He knows the course like he really well, it is going to play to a lot of his strengths, some of the, you know know stuff. So that would be kind of a this is not gambling advice but that would be a fun kind of thing to watch. Uh well we'll send you on that on your way and we will we'll get to our gambling advice which really

is an advice. It's more for fun and and whatnot but you can uh check out Kevin's writing all week at no laying up.com. It'll be popping into our live shows as well. Enjoy the week. Jealous we're not there but uh, but we're happy to have you there I'm excited to hear from you this week. Thank you boys crack on shout out to his family Couple more things to get to but first let's get to our fan duel picks of the week one pick One play can be anything from the Fandel Sportsbook. Of course, of course, we know this odds are subject to change first up DJ Pi, what is your pick of the week?

Yeah, like I said, I'm looking to hedge. I'm looking to get my money right here and just make sure I'm covered down. The third hole is my favorite hole. Honestly, top 10 favorite holes in the world. I absolutely love playing it. I love watching people that are much better than me playing it. I love watching people just stick their hand in the cookie jar and get shot in the face. It's just, it's great.

And so as much as I would love to see Rory play well, I also know that he's had some trouble with, you know, distance control in the past. He's hit it into some bad spots, particularly wedges. Maybe he gets a little over aggressive with the driver. I just, plus 750, Rory to make a bogey on number three in the first round is kind of one of those like, just let's let all the air out of the balloon.

Of course this was gonna happen, sort of bet. So that's what I'm looking at, is Rory bogeying or worse? Number three in round one at plus 750. Maybe a couple of nuggies on that, get your week started. I don't know. Hate this. It just means spirited. You hate this? It just means spirited. It's just cold blooded. That's like pretty good odds on that get your week started I don't know. I hate this. You hate this? What do you mean?

It's spirited. It's just cold blooded. That's like pretty good odds on that. That's what I'm saying. It might be for all we know. It just seems beneath you. I'm going a different route. I also want to say I hope everybody has fun but they didn't have that up at the time of press. They did because my bet is pretty much are we having fun or are we not having fun out there? Because they have an over-under of 274 and a half for the winning score. That is five and a half under par for those doing the math at home.

Excuse me, that is, yeah, it's five and a half. That's right. I'm going under. I think, well, I think Scottie's gonna win by four or more, and I think it's gonna be at six under or better. I think he's gonna be closer to to eight or nine if not if not 10 under par by the end of the week but I think the scores will be lower than you know all this talk of carnage just the fact

that wins not going to blow I couple guys are going to take it relatively low. So that's my that's my pick of the week minus 150. You got to lay but I love that one. TCI get it before you you spell yours. Graham linger in the in the comments was wondering if there's a possible all-cliques parlay out there Which would be such an epic bet to try to get all the ideas in the field If Blaine it was in the field we would do that, but I just I don't know how Moran fits around this place I don't love Moran stroke here. I

Listen we did our preview show earlier this week. So a lot of a lot of my picks are there. A lot of my plays are there. We've got two NLU featured bets that, you know, are featured in there that we have not spoken of yet. So I'd like to go through both of those. I'm asking your permission, Sally. May I go first? Your pick first as the as the producer for Cody, the producer, okay, your pick.

I've got a two person parlay here and it's a multi-state, multi-league parlay. Tiger Woods to make the cut. I think Tiger makes the cut. I think this is a Goldilocks situation for Tiger. It's gonna be hot, but I think Tiger, if there's a course that, I think if there's a state side course other than, I would say even more so than Augusta,

that he can compete on, it's this one. I don't think he's gonna top 10 or top 20, but I think he's gonna make the cut just through Guile and Guts, and he's not driving the ball poorly. It's this one. So I think it's that plus Nellie to win the LPGA event this week, which I think she won back in 2021. So she has a good history. Right. Yeah, that's fun. That's a lot of, a lot of fun stuff to root for.

Yeah. Yeah. And then I, and then I cooked up a, uh, you know, top 40, a Rick D's parlay, uh, as well. So you can flash that I got Justin Lauer, Harris English, saw it, uh, Sally's guy, Foxy, Adam Shank, Webb Simpson and cam Davis all to finish top 40 thought about throwing Harry Higgs and ZB in there too. Harris English, Sahith, Salih's guy Foxy, Adam Schenck, Webb Simpson, and Cam Davis all to finish top 40. Thought about throwing Harry Higgs and ZB in there too, but it was just getting a little unwieldy.

And this includes ties. So if you throw this in, you know, without this parlay, if you just throw it into the thing, those don't include ties. This includes ties, which is very important. You not want to get cut down on the top 40 parlay. There's a lot of other things that TC had too that he would just cut them short on time. But if anybody wants to, they can go to FanDuel Sportsbook.

They can check it out there. Underneath the US Open, especially US Open tab, you go over no laying up specials. We got everything under there from the preview show. The two that TC just mentioned, check them out. But of course, odd subject to change. We'll be running it back all week. We should get a whole microsite, like a microsite just set up. It's just a link.

You know, TC is just streaming on his phone. Yeah, just kind of throw it out. Like, you know, don't forget about this guy. Also love this guy. All right. Couple, a couple of fun secgies or questions here to get to before we go to rap. DJ sent a bunch of these over earlier, but I love this one. What's your guys, what's your favorite US Open specific word? DJ, I'm gonna go to you first on this one. I mean, I feel like I'm gonna take the best one

and I feel bad because it's my segment, but I'm gonna say syringe. Like I have never heard anybody ever talk about syringing the greens outside of the US Open. It makes me laugh every fucking time they do it. We're just we're right on the edge. We're so we are syringing the greens. And it's just the perfect example of like, you know, I would do the same thing if I was in their chair. Of course, I'm not throwing shade. But, you know, you've got like Rich Lerner and and Brando and these guys like,

it's just so clear that you're like taking words from one person and then just like repeating them on air you know like nobody you can't read a press release it's like they're syringing the greens and then say like oh they're putting a little water on the greens they're just like no they are syringing the greens we have received word they have i don't know what the syringes are but they've got them out they are syringing the greens it's just it's the. I love it. Sal is familiar with syringes from our Australia season. And from his fantasy baseball team. Those are just straight needles. All right, guys. They're not syringes. But TC? Mine is green section. It's not green section. It is green section. And this is, of course, their agronomy arm. They do all sorts of testing and research and all sorts of things. But just the fact that they call it the green section, like was there a part of the office

that they wore green every day? They're the agronomists. So you just lovingly refer to them as green. Where did that come from? I'm sure Wolfie will text me in the next six minutes with the whole history of it. But yeah, green section. That's good stuff. I think I'm kind of cheating because it's more than one word here. I didn't know how to drill this one down any tighter, but it's momentum, the momentum par, right? Like the 10 foot, like in a US open, that that par putt is more important than a birdie putt. A lot of players will tell you that was more important for momentum to make that par putt than it would have been to have made a birdie on that hole. That will come by by 9am, before 9am tomorrow morning, but that's my favorite US open thing. A distant cousin of the eye test. I thought when you said two words, you were going to go graduated

rough, which is another, that was kind of second on my list. No, we're not going to have rough this week. Uh, I was going to go open, you know, a US open thing. Leaderboard gravity. I was going to go with at one, at one point and the edge, honestly. Are they on the edge? Are we on the line? Yeah.

Did you guys see a friend of the program? Smiley actually tweeted out all the, the plants, the native. Did you guys see a friend of the program, Smiley, actually tweeted out all the plants, the native plants that they want to have referred on the telecast this week? You know what? As someone who supports the green section, you know what was conspicuously absent there? Bermuda grass. As one word.

Well, I think this is just the wire grass. I think this is just like all the native vegetations. I don't care. Native from North Carolina. That is the grass that they're planting on. That is a plant as well. That should be listed. It doesn't differentiate.

It just says plants at Piners number two. Didn't you just plant a whole big thing of slender vervain in your backyard? Slender vervain? I don't even know what that is. Oh, maybe I was thinking of someone else. It was Wooly Croton, I think is what you were putting down. Sorry. What is, I'm gonna ask you guys, what is the worst possible place to miss on Pioneers number two? What's the worst spot? Why don't you start with this one? I have two nominations. I can't pick between either one of these.

I just, because I don't know if they're the worst places to miss this, but they're the worst places I've been, which is long of number three. It runs off, it runs off back there and it ends up in that little path area that is not relief and it's like just like dirt that's below the soil level. And you have absolutely no shot. You can't, this image does not show off how severe everything is from back there. You're making seven from back there. And the only other like worst options is if you keep going,

and I've actually been in this spot while playing the third hole as well, but left of five, like, below the green on five is some of the grainiest stuff, absolutely impossible down there. But the worst possible spot here might be right of five because you're probably hitting the next one left of five. You're just playing one extra more shot. Like these are some of the most diabolical spots on the golf course, we will see.

Look at Solly pulling a TC, picking four or five spots is covering that. Making me proud. I will say we don't usually get like, we can't always show off the shots the pros might face quite as well as the pros themselves, obviously, but Ben and Neil did their Pinehurst match out there a couple of weeks ago

and the video's up on our YouTube channel. Go to the 545 mark if you wanna see that behind number three section because they both hit it back there and it's just kind of grab your popcorn. There's no way you'd make less than five or six. It's so sick. Saul, you kinda like there's no way you make less than like five or six. It's so sick So you kind of you kind of pissed on all the ones I know Sorry, I got too excited guys

I would say this is maybe a more of a meta one because it's not quite as bad But I would say missing the fairway at number one Just like really makes you start to spiral, you know, again, I was reading that architects roundtable and Rob Collins Friend of the program, did a great job spelling that out in writing. That tee shot's so easy. It's so wide. It's so flat.

There's no big hazards looming. But the last thing you think about every time you pull the trigger is just like, fuck, man, do not hit this left. God, what if I smother this? I could hit it over the road. And then you usually blow it right. And then you're behind the eight ball. Then you got a chip back.

Then you hit a bad wedge and you just can make doubles so freaking fast. So there's no better feeling than like hitting the first fairway, hitting the first green and just like making a big exhale. So I'll say left of number one. I would say, uh, I got a couple here. Somebody mentioned Riggs cottage. You don't want to blow it into Riggs cottage on number one. Yeah, like top it off the tee box. Yeah. Whatever that is. I don't want to blow it into Riggs cottage.

You like top it off the tee box. Or two. Yeah. Whatever that is. I saw, I was laughing my ass off. I thought Riggs posted a great video about that, about the scoreboard right outside his house. Oh yeah. Keeping them up. Come on, man. It was like the Seinfeld Kenny Rogers roasters episode. He's just got this scoreboard right outside his house. It's just got this tour of our grants at his house.

I think short and long of nine are both brutal. You can start ping pong and back and forth on nine. You can start doing that left and right of eight. That's not fun. Not necessarily the worst spots, but there's spots where you just start developing scar tissue here and there. I think 13, same thing. Similar to what you were talking about, Sally, like if you miss short on five, you know, it's rolling back down.

13 is the same deal. Um, and then I just think, we're spot on 15, Cody short, long left, right. Like all of them are just awful. I guess. Yeah, that's true that's true yeah I honestly it's so weird a pine hearse if you're short of any of the greens that's like the best spot that you can possibly be totally yeah like it for people they're gonna miss fairways and I know they're gonna get out there and it's a crap shoot because of all this wire grass if they're gonna have a swing or not but instead of like going out there just literally aim for the front of the green, it's the safest spot to be on number two. Yeah. The one shot that

just like keeps me up at night in, you know, I've played it from three different tee boxes there, but it's truly like, Sally, going back to our match at Royal Melbourne, where like, I felt like I didn't have that shot on, what was that on 16, the par three. Like I, I, I stand on the T on six at Pinehurst number two. And I'm just like, I don't have this fucking shot like straight up. Like I just, like, I don't, I don't have it. I don't. Well, the most underrated part about that shot too, is like, it's the first part three, so especially for recreational players, if you're, if you're driving it

wayward at all, it might be the first perfect iron shot you're hitting. It's so hard. Cody, I think you said that. I remember the first time we went around there together where it's like you're banging around in that right rough, left rough, you're chipping up, you're hitting wedges. And then all of a sudden it's like, oh God, I've got a seven iron. It's totally unencumbered. There's no excuses to miss.

And it's terrifying. It's so uncomfortable. The best compliment. I know. The best compliment I could pay pinehairs is like, dude, I would be so I'm hitting it kind of good right now. I would love to play this place right now. If you're hitting it bad is just like, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like you would be so exposed so fast. It's

just an awesome friggin test. What's the worst hole of pinehurst? Like, I can't I legitimately can't was it 10? Probably. It might be 10. I think that's fair. We've been on the show for 50. Not the original 10th hole by the way. Yeah. Like on record, just we haven't mentioned this guy's name somehow an hour in, but we talk about him plenty on the preview, but just straight up point blank. TC does Scotty Scheffler win? Does he win? Uh, I think he does. DJ? I think so. Yes. Cody? Yeah. I think he does too. I think I think it's I think he's gonna be like, like, yeah, it's gonna be quick. It's gonna be quick. Okay, it's gonna happen quickly. I have a feeling.

I think it I think it could be one of those ones too, like the way that we have all talked about like the most impressive Tiger victories when he just is constantly hitting it to 15, 18, 20, 25 feet on the safe side and it just gets like more and more fun to watch him kind of like hit safe shots. I think that's what we're in for. I hope that's what we're in for. It's also just that reminder of like, oh yeah, when he does miss greens, he's the best around the field.

Like it's just over under for Tiger in round one on Fandel was 73 and a half. I know what he's taking because he's got him to make the cut Deidre. Were you taking? Yeah, I'll get I'll get swept up in that. I'll take the under. I think he's gonna be you know, I think he's gonna be crafty.

I think I can't wait to see him like bump some shots around the greens. Those are always fun shots to watch him hit, you know, hitting those little nippers and scooters. It's also while the tiger, you know, he didn't play in 2014, but his quote about like, oh, yeah, like I, you know, it's the same course because like the fairway lines are still the same. So him visually, when he steps up on the tee box, he's like,

I had nothing's changed. Like, I still I still see the exact same thing that I saw in in 99 and 2005. You're like, whoa, man, like there's so much other noise going on that everybody else pays attention to. And he's like, no, the fairways and the greens are still in the same spots. Just to throw cold water on all this. Tiger stinks at putting now. He's not a good putter.

Like we don't, he does not play enough golf to be like a competitive putter. And these greens are going to be so difficult. I'm going over. I'm not feeling the cat this week. So not to rain on the parade, but his eyes are still there though. Maybe absolute hater. Maybe they, I mean, they weren't good at the PGA. Like that wasn't good.

Uh, you're, you're, you're off of tiger. I'm just, I just moved on. Like I've just, I just don't, I don't see how he can be competitive with this few reps in between or no reps in between. So, and then Fando also had a 72 hole match bet between Phil or Tiger. Phil is minus one 30 in the 72 hole match bet. That's a great bet. They got so many good picks. It's such a good course for Phil, like with the imagination and the artistry and just it may be too much imagination greens, right but That was I was there were there was a moment this week where I started talking myself into Phil

I didn't quite get there. I think if it was a I think if it was a three hole championship I could I could see it, you know if it's like hey Everybody's gonna drop a ball in this right rough. We're gonna see who could get up and down I might give Phil a look at that, but 72 old championship against Scott Schempler of like, no, I don't know. When did he win the PGA? Like three years ago. That's it's true.

I mean, TC a lot's happened, man. Lesions and breakaways and framework agreements and nine 11 fail. It was just a lot of shit. It's happened since then. Yeah. Jay still has a job. It's crazy. Um, just want to, want to put this out there. NBC, we are watching. Pulled up some of the old data from

Cody from last year. He said, he sampled the one to two Eastern to three Eastern time on USA last year, got 19 minutes, 35 seconds in commercials. That's 55 ads in total. They're claiming to give us two minutes back out of almost 20 minutes is is just keeping an eye on that as if they're gonna if they're gonna promise us, you know, this if they're gonna brag about cutting down commercials, just we might be having a timer on that. I don't I don't know what's like. You're a hockey guy. We're gonna put you in the penalty box for two minutes if

you don't give us our two minutes. Alright, we're gonna put you in the penalty box for two minutes if you don't give us our two minutes. All right We're gonna get cocks down the next couple days All right. We're focused on the positives guys. Come on. We are folks. It's gonna be a great week It's gonna be a great week. I hate that we're trying to keep happy hours to an hour or less Cody I'm gonna have to bump your history lesson lesson will say almost said lesion is your history lesion We're gonna save that for Thursday or Friday, depending on if we get some action here. Look, we'll have to talk about a lot going on here. Thank you, everyone for tuning in. Thank

you to high noon. Thank you to row back. Thank you to fan dual TC Cody DJ everybody that tunes in live gosh, we're gonna have such a great week. We're gonna be back live after every round of golf Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday, right here on YouTube, Twitter, wherever you get it in your podcast feed. Look forward to it. So thanks for tuning in. We'll see you back later this week. Cheers. Cheers.