No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 854 - Thursday U.S. Open Live Show

Episode Date: June 14, 2024

P. Cantlay and Rory McIlroy as your leaders through 18 holes at Pinehurst No. 2. We bring KVV in from the bullpen to discuss Cantlay's round, SVP joins us for his views on Pinehurst No. 2. We run down... the leaderboard, talk some in's and out's of the course, get a quick history lesson and more. If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining The Nest: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at nolayingup.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Be the right club. Be the right club today. better than most Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the no laying up live show presented as always by our friends at high noon Sally is here TC is Harold. Hello. Mr. TC. Hello Sally. I got the gold tops tonight, baby Cool yellow tops that is not what we're advertising That DJ pies here. Hello. Hi, man. Greetings greetings. Hi. Hello. What a first round at the United States open Hello, Pi Man. Greetings, greetings. Hi, hello. What a first round at the United States Open. The moment everyone has been waiting for is finally here.
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Starting point is 00:01:21 Those are my two favorites. It makes sense that those would be gone, but I might need to restock up before the end of the weekend. As always, the High Noon Pool Pack made with real vodka, real juice, has 100 calories, is gluten free, has no added sugar, and you can visit highnoonspirits.com to find it near you. Major weeks. I feel like you guys are like trendsetters, man. Every time you guys are on, you're on the pool pack, I'm still catching up to the tequila. you guys are on the iced tea, I'm drinking the pool pack, you know, I'm trying to keep up with, there's just too many offerings. Too many options. Yeah, just like at Pinehurst, there's a lot of options on how to attack it, how to, the shots around the green, a ton of different options. Major weeks are
Starting point is 00:01:58 always fun, we're gonna be highlighting some moments of joy later in the show brought to you by a partner who knows a little something about Joy. That's Foot Joy, the official shoe, glove, and rainwear partner of No Laying Up. So stick around for that towards the end of the day. DJ Pye, first up, what is your highlight of the day? First, before I get to that, I of course gotta go through the rundown of what we're gonna be talking about
Starting point is 00:02:19 because we always forget to do that. We're gonna talk about who we're most proud of, who we're most disappointed in. We're gonna of course talk Pinehurst, set up where we're going from there. We're gonna talk talk about who we're most proud of, who we're most disappointed in. We're going to, of course, talk Pinehurst setup. Where are we going from there? We're going to talk some leaderboard, some things we wish we would have said prior to the tournament starting and things we wish we didn't say. A bunch of little nuggets from the day, some questions.
Starting point is 00:02:34 KVV is going to join us here rather shortly. Cody's going to give us his history lesson that got bumped from the happy hour. We've got a couple of questions. We're going to do the KVV stick your neck out prediction. A lot going on. But DJ, what's your highlight of the day? You know, I hate to, I hate to take this one, but it's gotta be just suspending the bit for a second. It's gotta be Neil selling on the block party for the first time in a decade. And me, Cody, you know, a couple other silent investors swooping in. KKR. Yeah. But you know, putting a little gasoline on a really strong American asset and just, you
Starting point is 00:03:11 know, really turning it into what it should be. It's Rory McIlroy, man. That was like, that's it. That is smart, patient. That's just everything we're hoping for out of him. And he did it today. It was a blast to watch him kind of do a good Scotty impression.
Starting point is 00:03:28 That's what we've been watching out of Scotty over the last however many months here. And Rory, all the pieces finally clicked. And so it was really fun to watch him talk in his post round with Damon about how much he was fighting himself and trying to stay patient. And don't get goaded in again, don't get goaded in again. And he's,
Starting point is 00:03:47 he's kind of quietly stacked up like a wildly impressive us open run the last couple of years. So that, I mean, that's as good as it gets for me. Tc. What's your highlight highlighted today? Uh, I got a big, big smile on my face from Bryson almost drove 13 green. It's like with his crank. That was awesome. I mean, like he's just, four times is plenty a year. That's the perfect amount.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Like, you know, we got him during PGA championship. Now we get him again during US Open and then we get to see him again during British Open. But four times a year is great, but those four times I'm enjoying it. I'm along for the ride. I'm embracing Bryson. And it was it was a momentous shot. And to be able to almost drive that green without them pushing the tees up is wild.
Starting point is 00:04:38 That's that red dot if you're watching this live. That's right next to the bunker that's green side. He did convert the birdie thankfully. I hate when Bryson cranks a drive. you're in all of it and you get 50 replies. They're like, Oh, but he made four, but he made four. Did you guys see the dry? The, the thing I tweeted on eight that he had the longest drive in the fairway on eight by 52 yards today. Max Grazerman had the second longest drive at three 27 and Bryson hit it three
Starting point is 00:05:01 79, uh, and somehow got a ball to stop left of that pin on eight, which I did not see coming. Dej, highlight, I gotta say, man, I have to harken back to falling around. Rory and Scotty played the first two rounds together at the Masters earlier this year. And it was just like I walked almost every hole, I think, of those 36 holes with them. And it was just like, couldn't come up with the words come back to the show to be like, yo, guys, the gap is even bigger than you imagine right like every shot that's required Of you know getting to the back left pin in on number nine in the wind
Starting point is 00:05:33 You know, you need to use the slopes hitting off downhill bubble Hey scottie's got it and rory does not like was my overwhelming takeaway and in front of scotty today Rory played scotty round like you mentioned the highlight being the putty rolled in on 18, which he claimed he wasn't walking that in. I refuse to believe that. That went in with plenty of oomph. He said he thought he left it short. Yeah, I don't believe that.
Starting point is 00:05:53 It's kind of a Kevin Na situation. I don't believe that. I think he was totally pimp stepping that all the way in. And I mean, this is the fun part of the ride, right? This is not the first time we've been here out of the last 36 starts that he's made in majors that haven't turned into wins, but this is the fun part of the ride, right? This is not the first time we've been here out of the last 36 starts that he's made in majors that haven't turned into wins, but this is the fun part. And you can believe, you can dream. I don't even know, like, I don't know where I net out.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I'll probably change my mind three times before the end of the show on what I think is actually going to happen. But I'm thrilled to be sitting here and feeling some things as it comes to Roy. Sounds like some hope there. Sounds like some hope there from Solly. Of course there's hope. There's always hope. That's the part that kills you.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Well, I don't know. That's the part that kills you. This is the first time in a long time you're actually vocalizing and expressing that publicly. At Southern Hills I did. I was like, oh, I think he's gonna halfway, I think he's gonna win. And he broke my heart on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:06:41 That's not, this is not the first time. Solly, pretty soon, you know, I've seen what's going on at this block party pretty soon Black rock gonna be buying your house out from under you I will never sell I will never sell they were you know, they will eminent domain your ass. All right They're like they were they were checking personal coolers. I tried to bring in some high noon I mean, we're not running a charity out here You don't want people roofie dog exactly saw you sneaking out all sorts of little baggies and shit $12 a bottle water Cody I was looking in the back
Starting point is 00:07:13 I think we got a couple more platinum ticket packages that we can maybe offload to Chris could be a hot lead if you want To put one of our salespeople on it. Sounds like it sounds like an interested buyer I'm not buying it guys. I'm not buying the... I'm not ready to get swept up in this yet. And I probably won't be after tomorrow either. You know what? We will be here tomorrow. We'll be here.
Starting point is 00:07:36 It's very much open door. Whenever you guys are ready to come in, we'll be here waiting. It's not about the destination guys. It's about the friends you make along the way. You're here to profit off of it, not to party. That's right. It's not about the destination guys. It's about the friends you make along the way. You're gonna profit off of it not to party, right? I think that's kind of where I didn't like where leadership was taking the block party previously. So like, I'm happy to see a change over right? Listen, I think you know, I'm still might be just
Starting point is 00:07:57 hating from outside the club. But how have we gotten this far into the show? Without talking about the real Project Pat. Yeah. Yeah. Project Pat, Joe the show, LaCava out in front, minus five. They were the story of the day.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Sally, the sustainability models, I don't think they're looking great. He didn't hit that many greens today, a little bit of smoke and mirrors. It's some really good shots though. And I think patience, discipline, matching up against, like, Cantlay hasn't really won on Bermuda Greens other than Eastlake. So I was kind of doing a deep dive on Cantlay's career today. And I'm like, all right, Cantlay has won what, eight times in the last seven and a half seasons. You would think for his stature in the game, he would have won more. And, you know, he chipped his butt off today. He had that chip in. But otherwise, I don't
Starting point is 00:08:55 know, I'm just not I'm not seeing him running away with this thing or him. You know, like, we saw Scottie's what C minus game today. I feel like we saw, yeah, yeah. And, you know, I think Cantlay, I'm fading Cantlay, but it was good to see him get off the blocks today. No pun intended. I think it just, man, it takes a lot of knocking at the door at these things.
Starting point is 00:09:19 And maybe he will be, you know, kind of first, second, third-ish time in convention or in contention, maybe he'll knock down the door, but that's not usually how it goes, right? Usually it's like you get two and a half, three good rounds, and you kind of start stacking them up and stacking them up, and like Xander's a good example of eventually the, you know, the dam breaks and you finally get it to go your way. I think Cantlay's kind of, it's like a very, you know, interested like Rory's interesting. That's an interesting thing to see what happens, right? And Cantlay is interesting as well. But I would say maybe lowercase I it's just
Starting point is 00:09:53 I am I will be keeping an eye on it. But I'm kind of with you that I'm like, yeah, well, it's hard. You can't like, you know, we there's no way we can get any kind of insight into what his round was like, because nobody like sets out when you go to a major championship is like, No, I'm gonna go follow Patrick Cantlay around. Oh, wait a second. We have a guy who was on site today decided I'm going to follow Patrick Kelly for some reason. I don't know if anybody approved this, by the way, but ended up being a pretty decent call. Kevin van Volkenberg calling him from on site at the USL. But KVB, how was your day watching? No hat pat for the record. TC approved this. I called him last night and I was like, I got an idea. I want to go follow Cantlay. I want to write about how was this guy deciding the future of golf and
Starting point is 00:10:32 you know what TC was like, yeah, you see a good round from Russell Henley at least. And he was right about both things. You know, it was a good guy to follow. And Russell Henley played pretty well. Can't lay normally doesn't play well on courses where the rough keeps the ball like the rough doesn't keep the ball close to the greens. Think about it. Muirfield Village, Caves Valley like you know, he's won the
Starting point is 00:10:51 BMW twice all a lot of bent grass lot of you know, Pinehurst is kind of the opposite of those things. So, you know, interested to see what you you saw out there today with his game. I saw so obviously you're right. He chipped his his butt off and he credited that as being like the biggest thing and the differences around. But he also hit some some really good iron shots, the shot he hit into eight, which was kind of a scary pin. If you
Starting point is 00:11:14 get left to that pin, you're totally boned. And he hit just this beautiful high draw that went in there about four feet, rolled that putt in, hit a really good shot into nine didn't quite make that but and I think I don't four feet, rolled that putt in, hit a really good shot into nine, didn't quite make that but man, I think, I don't know, he said he's he missed a cut of the memorial last week, 7675. So
Starting point is 00:11:32 nobody kind of thought **** that he was going to do anything and he just said, you know what? I just kind of figured out something. Sometimes when you're you're seems like you're far away, you just kind of pick one thing and keep working on it
Starting point is 00:11:42 and all of a sudden it clicks. So he was his usual sort of humorless kind of uh self afterwards but uh you know, I almost respect it because uh I do I do respect it because he he sticks to his and he's not trying to please
Starting point is 00:11:55 anybody. No, does not like some other uh pros out there. He is basically just going to be truly himself and not give one one uh hoot about what anyone else thinks. I'll defend his 10 greens. Tc but he's fourth in approach strokes again approach to it. I'll defend his 10 greens TC, but he's fourth in approach, strokes gain approach. So like that's why 10 greens is a greens and regs and antiquated
Starting point is 00:12:08 stat, especially in place like Piners, because not all miss greens are created equal out there. And like he chipped his butt off. But if you leave yourself in good spots, you can gain some shots on the greens. However, I think that the stat, I think the strokes gain stats can lie a little bit here when it comes to fairways, especially because if you miss fairways, there is some luck involved. That luck is
Starting point is 00:12:31 being accounted for in the, you know, in the strokes gained off the tee, right? No, I mean, he was only 0.49 strokes off the tee again, most of it was how does it basically what I'm saying is, how does it account for shitty lies versus good lies? Again, most of it was around the great. Basically what I'm saying is, how does it account for shitty lies versus good lies in the? I think it's relying on a lot of it just balancing out, right?
Starting point is 00:12:50 Yeah, it's up and tight. It's very noisy, but over the spectrum of the sample size that's whatever, it'll tell you. Which is worth mentioning that we're looking at one round, right? And there's probably some weirdness in there. And it's not really like. Every round, yeah. Right, but I mean, it's one round of right? And there's probably some, some weirdness in there and it's not really like- Every round, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Right, but I mean, it's one round of cant lays is what I'm saying. You see, you know who's second in strokes gained approach? Today was Zach Blair. Like from the spots that he must have played at, Ellie. Proper iron player, man. Absolutely. Kev, I don't know if there's, oh go ahead, Sal.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I was just gonna say, I would say there's more like noise to the downside in those numbers than the upside, right? Like if you like plug a ball in a bunker and you you know can't chuck it Like I don't I looked at what Hovland strokes getting around the green was today He both chipped it bad and was in some like totally death spots So like you can you can really get bone on the downside but if you're if you're fourth overall in your approach play like that the Sustainabilities are not popping for me on can't like for that reason, for other reasons it might be.
Starting point is 00:13:46 But. He was 151st. Just so you know, Hovland that is. See ya. Smell ya. Yeah. Kev, I don't even know if I have a question here, but maybe just something for you to riff on,
Starting point is 00:13:58 thinking about CantLay all day. It makes no sense to me that he would like doesn't need to strike all of you guys as like the harder it gets, the better I'm going to get. I'm going to stay more patient than everybody. I'm going to like stay in my process. I'm going to keep hitting it to 30 feet. Like, can you make any sense of the major like lack of major success? Yeah, it's really kind of crazy. I was looking through his
Starting point is 00:14:23 stats this afternoon as I was writing the story. He's only been literally competitive and one like truly like was in the mix at one major 2019 Masters. He be eagles 15 to briefly take the lead, then immediately bogey the next two. He's never truly like contended in another major and has been a top 10 player in the world. He's never fallen out of the top 10 since the last two years and has been in the top 10 player in the world. It's never fallen out of the top 10 since the last two years and has been in the top 10 for the last five. It's just kind of
Starting point is 00:14:48 remarkable. I don't know what I would say maybe doesn't drive it far enough that to sort of be in the mix. Not enough not not compared to some of those sort of longer long guys to mix, you know, make up for some of the other stuff. But it's got a great short game is no one is like, as you know, as you just said, like psychopathically, like patient as him truly does not give a single fuck about being told to hurry up or pissing off his
Starting point is 00:15:15 playing partners. I don't know, it's it doesn't make a lot of sense. Like watching Roy's round today, I'm just like, man, why is this not can't lay at every major? How is this? How does he ever play himself out of these things? And it's it's, yeah, it's just very, it's very strange. I mean, maybe it's just, he just likes the aerial game, right? Like, he tends to play well on a lot of those tour setups. And when you, you know, like it, it doesn't make sense until you kind of dig in on like, if it's just course fit and just preferences, right? Well, and he doesn, and he doesn't wear any emotions on his sleeve and doesn't give anything out to the media.
Starting point is 00:15:48 That doesn't mean he's not internally freaking out. For all we know, he's freaking himself out at majors. Like Max wears it very publicly that he hasn't played well in majors up until recently. And like just, you know, we associate that because he's very open about that whereas Cantlet isn't going to give any of that away. But I'm curious, you know, we, he's tied at the top with another guy. I'm curious if you've had any interaction with Rory this past week, uh, obviously, some, some, some weird times on a lot of different levels, uh, with Rory. Have you seen anything different? I might know the answer to this,
Starting point is 00:16:16 but anything you know, Rory has clearly decided that his game plan this week is to stay in any total bubble as to not have any kind of side conversations with anybody to not even like make eye contact with people that he's sort of friendly with for years. I, I don't know the reason why I don't know if it's a conscious choice. I don't know if he blames the media for some of the kind of stuff that has been circulating about his life or if he's just like, you know what, I'm going to try a different approach because I want to get back into that killer mode. But he is once he sort of steps
Starting point is 00:16:50 outside the press conference thing, like literally both Harry and Sean have said like, hello to me today and not Rory like Roy won't even like acknowledge which is okay. Like which is rare. Like the bread is not how Rory has ever done business Yeah, not which is fine. Like I'm not you know, if it helps him win a major, God, I got nor the media a ton. Like that would be great for you to get back into the winner circle. We kind of wish he would do shit like this. Yeah, focus and play. You know, but again, I think as we sort of looked at, you know, the last 37 majors, whatever, it's a lot of different. He likes to try different things. So maybe this is the new thing to try. He's, you know, he's trying to sort of stay, stay Zen and stay at peace and be very patient in these US Opens.
Starting point is 00:17:34 And, and that's certainly today was testing his patience. So we'll see if that holds up. He might be giving an exclusive to golf club Atlas. Big GCA guy these days. He had some comments afterward that Palo tweeted out about, you know, he's his appreciation for golf course architecture has helped him in US opens in the past. He wished he played more.
Starting point is 00:17:54 They played more golf courses like this, which on those lines, Kevin, I mean, Piners presented fantastically on television today. It was a treat to watch. Do you get any sense? We're going to talk some golf course after we let you go here. But do you get any sense as to where the line is on this course, where they're at with it, how it played in person one and where you think they can go with it? How in control do you feel like they are of the golf course? of cloud cover today, a little bit of humidity in the air. I think it could definitely get harder. The bitching will definitely come if it does
Starting point is 00:18:28 because everybody today was like, no, no, it's good. Like it's, everything is perfect. And I think, you know, what they probably should have been like is like, oh, it's too hard already. Like, dial back, dial back. Because if I'm, if I'm Bodenheimer, if I'm Juan, I'm like, all right, let's, let's take it up. Just a little notch to.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Which if I could say, almost no wind out there. Correct me if I'm wrong. I mean, I take it up just a little notch to if I could say almost no wind out there correct me if I'm wrong I mean I know it gusted a little bit at one point yeah light zephyr breeze you know nothing more teen rounds under par out of 156 dudes with almost no wind like that's pretty hard to find in professional golf these days I was glad saw that I saw your tweet about how the the rounds the waves were exactly the same because I heard zander saying like well it's clearly easier in the morning like those guys you know got the advantage of the waves were exactly the same because I heard Xander saying like, well it's clearly easier in the morning. Like those guys got the advantage of the cover and I was like, dog, like a guy in your group shot five under.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Like how was it this year in the morning? And Xander got every break out there today. The data boys loved the even splits. I know, so we're getting closer and closer to just pure simulation. We don't need to play it it just play it in the simulation This net this round never would have happened for Scotty if we could just play it in computers That's what I've always said that's exactly what I've always said and not at all what you guys have tried to paint me into
Starting point is 00:19:35 That's that's I'm really thankful. We can finally get this out there. Thank you Although JT is is you know? inflating the scoring average. I was looking of the draw. I was looking for the meme There's a meme that was just something about like you just made this you made up this entire scenario here That was you with JT today of like oh JT's probably gonna complain about being on the wrong side of the draw Like that that's just a thing you made up you made that up on your own. I was told JT's not a good three-point shooter You made that up on your own. I was told JT's not a good three-point shooter. Kev, we're gonna send you on your way.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Thanks so much for popping in. Enjoy the rest of the week. We'll be here in FIBA a lot more. And thanks for following Patrick Cantley today. That was a pleasure. That was, you are a man tied to your duties. We greatly appreciate it. My assignment editor, TC, just knows,
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Starting point is 00:21:47 DJ, you played in an event today. I did. More on that in our moment of joy section, TC. Thank you. What was it? TC, who are you most proud of today? I mean, I think we have to eliminate Rory from this conversation.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Maybe not. Who are you most proud of today? Yeah, a lot of different directions we could go here. Obvious one would be Ludwig Justin Lauer planning his first major You know love to see him make it to the weekend. He's plus two right now But you know what? I'm proud of the USGA Sally. Hey, I thought the setup was great. I Think you know leaving themselves some some flexibility to turn it up a little bit more as we get into Saturday, to ease off in certain spots to, you know, move some T's around,
Starting point is 00:22:31 probably on 313, especially move some of those part three T's around. I think Mike Wan's comments about driver heads were taken very positively by me earlier this week of just like, hey, like, like we're, we're still looking at the driver heads, right? We're still looking at it kind of re-skilling that, that element. And then they, you know, they put some guys on the clock early today and I appreciated that. Now, can we do a lot better with it? Yeah. Like I think Wyndham's group was more than a whole, whole and a half behind for a large part of their round. But Zala Taurus was a big, big reason why the cat,
Starting point is 00:23:10 Fitzpatrick and Zala Taurus got put on the clock, I think like three or four holes into the round. So, you know, was glad to see that. I want to see them enforcing that stroke and some guys, like there's, it's a five and a half, six hour pace out there. If you fall behind the group in front of you, like you should like you deserve to be penalized immediately, immediately on the spot. I'm don't even put them on the clock just penalize
Starting point is 00:23:35 him. Just disclaimer here for all of course, as always for those listening, that's not how the rule operates TC would like a change in the rule. He doesn't say that when he brings us up, but he wants to change in the rule so just I was them out there but There's there's some there's some things we'll get to you know, some things I was disappointed in but I just thought coming off of fall Hala like Every time I think about Valhalla I get mad as as hell. So today I got so joyful watching Pinehurst
Starting point is 00:24:07 and just seeing balls roll off the greens and well-struck shots holding the greens. Like there was a difference between a good shot and a great shot. There was a difference between a good shot and a poor shot. And having those- A good shot was not right at the pin a lot of times. That was, it's, if you don't think that's good TV, I don't I'm not going to tell you you're wrong
Starting point is 00:24:26 because I can totally see the argument against wanting to watch four days of that. But I fucking love that. I thought I just have great also like that's the US Open that doesn't have to be every other major we only get three of these a year that move around and get to see new places. Pinehurst is a breath of fresh air. The course looked awesome, it played awesome, and I just couldn't be happier that this is an anchor venue moving forward
Starting point is 00:24:52 because I think they can do a lot with this golf course. They don't have to do a lot to this golf course to get a lot out of it. Deidre, who are you most proud of today? You go ahead, you go ahead. I don't wanna do this. I shouldn't do this because they will break my heart, right? And it's a little faint praise because they said the bar is so low. Don't do it. But today was eminently watchable. I didn't feel that early. The commercial times felt bad, but like. I felt the same way. It was just like watchable, right? It was
Starting point is 00:25:26 analysts. I'm not proud. I'm just a little proud of NBC just a little bit of like, honestly, if this was not a disgrace, which is a step up from what their US Open coverage has been when they took over this contract for 30 cents on the dollar. It's a P in the potty situation. It totally is, but I can't hate it. I'm a little proud of it. They kicked us over to the cock at 5pm. That's not good.
Starting point is 00:25:50 They got the cock in the morning. But I mean, YouTube TV had a multi-view thing. I had four feeds going at once today. So even when they went to commercial, like I could watch it all in one place. It was awesome. I mean, granted on my 42 inch TV, that was tiny in that four, you know, in the four windows, but
Starting point is 00:26:07 dude, it was, it was quite watchable. It's not perfect, but I'm, I'm, I'm somewhat proud of them for that. So. You know what? I, I agree. I'm, there's nits to pick, but I'm not, it's less like I'm super proud and I have nothing to say and more. It's just like, ah, I just want have nothing to say and more it's just like, I just want to focus on other stuff. The golf was amazing. I don't want to spend any time talking about TV.
Starting point is 00:26:28 But they did the golf justice, right? Yeah. We got to experience the awesome golf. Totally. Is kind of what I'm getting at. You guys probably also love the Andre the Giant segment they did. I missed that.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I think that was great. The NASCAR segment. Like stuff that's not even in the sand hills or close to pioneers at all. But listen, the difference is those didn't ruin my day today. Yes. You know, because everything else was fine. All right, couple of-
Starting point is 00:26:49 Feature groups are great. I was big on feature groups. Couple directions to go. I will, you already mentioned it, but I will say Rory is the top of my like proud list. That was it, man. That's, I could not be prouder. I will say, weirdly, I'll say Scottie.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Scottie sucked today, and he's won over, and not out of the championship. A lot of players would be, thank you, Cody. A lot of players would be totally out of this championship, hitting the ball the way that he hit it today. He ain't getting a haircut that bad. Well, second, I guess that's more disappointed. I was going to talk about his barber, but so I'll say Scotty for just keeping himself
Starting point is 00:27:31 in the championship. He can go play a nice round tomorrow morning and he's going to be right there. I still think he's, you know, now he's only going to win by like one or two instead of, you know, by nine or 10, which I think is good for everybody. We mentioned it very briefly. We give Max a lot of run on this podcast, but the OG guy is kind of Zach Blair. The fact that Zach Blair is in the year of our Lord 2024 is T15 at a US Open. It just fills me with a ton of joy. That shouldn't be happening in this age of technology. He didn't even putt that
Starting point is 00:28:03 good today and he just hung in there and posted a really great round. So I'm very stoked for him. His wedges are back. He's hitting the heck out of his wedges. Almost birdied 16, which is cruelly unfathomable for the shortest player in the field by far. And the last, do you remember, so we're on a text thread with ZB. I think when he kind of petered out a couple of weeks ago, was like getting a little despondent
Starting point is 00:28:34 about his distance. I hope he doesn't mind me sharing this, but he's like, no guys, you don't understand. Like I'm hitting the ball the same distance as like elite 13 year old kids. Like elite 13 year olds and me are kind of like hitting the ball the same distance as like elite 13 year old kids, like elite 13 year olds and me are kind of like hitting the ball the same like that. I'm trying to like, I'm competing at the PJ tour. Uh, so anyways, T 15 at the U S open. Fuck. Yeah, that's awesome. Last one. I'll shout out, uh, Brendan poor. I've wrote a great piece today for the fried egg. Uh, it was kind of just like an appreciation for the olds. And so I'm going to,
Starting point is 00:29:02 I'm going to join him and shout out Sergio, you know, Sergio was not exempt for this tournament, went, qualified. He has nothing left to prove in the game of golf. As Brendan said, he could have just as easily rode off into the sunshine and he, you know, went out and got it, earned a spot and his T9. Like good for him, man. That's, that's good stuff. He's not my favorite guy on the planet, but like you can't take anything away from that. That's, that's pretty good stuff. Clean card too. Yeah. No bogeys at
Starting point is 00:29:28 a US Open. It's just a real golfer. Just a real golfer. No, no. He needs to apply that, that energy to his fireballs because they're of course playing like shit right now. Also speaking of the olds, I'd like to shout out Blandy. I heard Blandy was up at the Creek last night or this morning and then he put Friars had this afternoon So I'm glad that brand one of those the Dale hats or the dolly hats I believe it was that mr. Worldwide he did he did I was I was pretty pretty disappointed in that Yes, all right. We'll go back around the circle DG most disappointed in I went long on mine So I'll just say I mean it pretty obviously Victor Hovland shooting 78 T142 that's just not what I thought was coming there after unlocking something at
Starting point is 00:30:11 at Valhalla. Yeah we can that's different golf courses different tests man that's kind of what that feels like. I'm kind of disappointed in myself also for like yeah I don't know why I didn't see that coming that was that was dumb. I wasn't expecting a lot from him, but it was just sad to watch JT today. Just be dude what's on lately uncompetitive like completely uncompetitive not even close and Yeah, again, I Expectations were low. He actually been hitting his irons really well coming into the week was the one thing I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:30:45 ah, kind of a little curious here, but he was 149 in strokes, gain approach today. His putting has been woeful. He just had absolutely nothing going on and it's just, man, it's a tough scene. So that's my disappointment. TC? Couple different directions I could go here.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Sahith, wildly disappointing. That's tough. I think we can all let's no comments. We were all on that odd not train. We all whiffed on that one. Right. Three hands up. 100% 100% But you know what? I'm going to say I'm most disappointed in the USGA. They they They They Together The USGA They're not stroking guys for Slow play And I think The TIO stuff is out of control Right. That was a disgrace
Starting point is 00:31:38 Down the stretch this afternoon What's going on there? The US Open there shouldn't be TIO Scottie saying that that's where he was going to play that shot. Absurd. Can you break that one down for me a little bit? I think I left the room for a second and I think I might have missed this. We'll let Cody pull up the shot tracker on that because I think that taking it through there is... Because Bryson had one too that was absolutely egregious but like with Scotty it's
Starting point is 00:32:06 like all right man like are you really gonna play it like that that's it was it was bad and then what I really disappointed with on the USGA front is social media has turned into like a bad imitation the PGA tour so one of my favorite things about the USGA, US Open, US Women's Open's Instagram account over the last three, four years, and granted, I'm the one putting this up on our story, but I've always tried to make an effort to put their stills. They bring in really talented photographers that take great still photos, and it feels very USGA. It feels timeless, classic. There's a sense of place there, all that. And I think they've totally gotten away from that. And I get that they need to monetize
Starting point is 00:32:51 for certain partnerships with AMX or Deloitte or Cisco or whomever, but you can do both. And it seems like they've gotten totally away from doing any of the quality stuff on there. And it's just turned into like a bad imitation of the PGA tours already bad Instagram account. So I just wanted to put them on blast for that. That really pissed me off. Thank you, TC. True. So back to Scotty. You know, it was, it's, let me pull up the, Cody, can you pull it up or no? Yeah, I'm trying to figure out this guest thing, but what hole do you want me to pull up for you? It is, hold on, should be 16.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Well, you hit it left, I mean, you hit it left on 16 and had signage in his way from the 18th hole. That's where- Allegedly, allegedly had signage in his way. I mean, there's a hole sign on every tee-box who is directly in line with the t-box and the rules official said yeah That's in your way and this one's top TC. I understand your your side of it But there's like even watching it on TV is he's it was directly in line with that with that USGH side, but I don't think it's messing with the shot like it's giving him a get-out-of-jail-free card We have somebody that was there.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Kevin, can you tell us about that? Yeah, I was there for the Scotty thing. Look, there was a gap there to the left where he could have hit it quite clearly through and the sign was blocking that. And to the right, there were all the cameras that sit right behind AT&T. I get, you see, I think it's a very real issue
Starting point is 00:34:24 that I'm glad you're raising. But I just want to testify from someone on the ground that it did take a while I was like, this is an egregious drop. And then I kind of looked around and understand what they were doing. It was funny because there was a there was like a guy, one of those motorized carts there, he couldn't get the cart out of the way. And they were trying desperately to move the cart to and they had to have people pick up the cart like they lifted that rock when Tiger was behind it in Phoenix and like carry the cart out of the way but there was signage
Starting point is 00:34:49 there that was blocking the shirt. Thank you Kevin. Very normal sport. Could be one of those biker gang scenarios out there. You know kind of like at the US Women's Open at Lancaster. But yeah anyway I just I don't think there should be TIO in the US open. Okay, tell me where to sign your petition. I'm in on that, obviously.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Other I mean, I guess, where do we think things are going? Right? I mean, five under par after round one, I saw some some bad some some boy math going on out there. I mean, five to five under par around, that's 20 under par, like we're heading we're heading to head to 20 under which, because I just don't think we're gonna end up there. I mean, 500 part of around that's 20 under par like we're heading we're heading to head to 20 under which because I just don't think we're gonna end up there. Not even replying to those anymore. Like they're not even worth responding to. There's like your vegetable if you think
Starting point is 00:35:34 that way. What? What? Where do we think? Where do you think we are at the end of the day tomorrow? Like what do you think happens by by end of day tomorrow? I think I'm in eight, seven or eight. I don it'll probably be seven or eight. I don't even know about that. That seems low. That seems low.
Starting point is 00:35:48 I like, honestly, if you told Rory and Cantlay, like would you take six? I think they would both take that and be in the lead. I think six would be in the lead. I mean, anybody outside of Ludwig, it's like Matthew Favon would have to shoot 67 to get to six. There's like pretty good shooting.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I don't know, I'd take six or seven. I think he'll be the lead. What is- I like seven. I think Ludwig can keep the pedal down. Well, on that note, I'll go first on this one. I have a category in here, but it's like what's something you wished you
Starting point is 00:36:19 to set in previews and something you wished you didn't? I wish we would've talked a little more Ludwig. I don't I wasn't necessarily dismissing him. But you know, the knee stuff and just kind of the way he was bending down at Memorial and just, you know, this never never played in the US Open. And I just kind of forgotten what he's done in the biggest events he's played in so far and was runner up at the Masters and is a freak like that's that's something I wish that I wish I would have said which I wish I
Starting point is 00:36:46 would have called out in the many hours of preview content that we do. That's really big of you, Sally. I appreciate that. I do think you had every opportunity as well and did not. So I don't know. I mean, we apologize for that. People are I do think like 72 holes here. I do think the knee is going to get worn down. I think there's going to be some mental errors made. Part of the reason is because I think this is probably a tournament
Starting point is 00:37:12 and a course where you need some experience to draw upon. Granted, he plays really well when it's firm and when the setup is difficult, but at the same time, I think experience is going to matter here. Underrated. Also, Joe Schaubren on the bag. Finished second here last time with Ricky Fowler, you know? Speaking of course knowledge. So I'll go next. I'm talking a lot of Rory for good reason here, obviously, but I wish I had remembered or gave some respect to the fact that Rory has been a different golfer at the US Open the last four years. Like that graphic they put up where I'm just like, fuck, that's right. He has finished top 10 like each of the last five years. That's pretty bananas. And he has showed a little more patience.
Starting point is 00:37:57 He has been a little different player than he is at the Canadian Open or at the Memorial or at some of these other like PJ Tour kind of softer tests. Like he has shown some more patience and I think I still hadn't really given that the respect it probably deserved. So it's a bit of a shame on me today. Although obviously did invest and was the only one to purchase the asset. Yeah. I mean, yeah. again, Ludwig to 16 of 18 greens. He's a fucking animal. He's an animal. One thing that I wish I would have said, I think Potterboy stinks. I love I love fine her stuff, pretty much everything about blinders. I think Potterboy is among the more overrated logos in the game. And I don't get it. I don't understand why he's important. I don't understand why he's a central character and essential theme. It's kind of like the lone Cyprus at Pebble. Like that fucking tree is not even on the property.
Starting point is 00:38:51 It's out. Yeah. Putterboy never even won a US Open there. Not even in North South. And like, where's Putterboy's dad? Who is Putterboy's dad? Yeah, nobody knows. So that's a brave take. And like where's Potter boys dad? It was true. Yeah, nobody knows so That's that's a brave take Something I wish I didn't say I didn't I wish I didn't specifically bring up that the pine hearse is a competition of keeping Keeping your ball in control and specifically dismiss Rory on those grounds, right? Because he certainly look like a guy who's You know not not it's it's that's different than like not predicting somebody to play good. I dismissed him on that. I wish I didn't. Now listen, you asked me tomorrow night, I might be, I'm disappointed that I fell for it on Thursday and he wasn't in control of his ball on Friday for all we know.
Starting point is 00:39:35 But sitting here right now, I'm disappointed I said that. But, Deid, you got one? That was kind of on the Rory, the Rory stuff. I wish we had given more credence to his US Open record. Do you have something you said in a preview that you wish you didn't say? Saul Hith, I'll give you that. Yeah, I was gonna say, sorry, I think I missed the nuance. I thought you were coming back for the second time, but the nuance, yeah, Saul Hith I was all in on,
Starting point is 00:40:00 Harry Higgs I was all in on. There were a couple just like bad, bad predictions for me wasn't a wasn't something I said on the podcast, but it was something that I said on Twitter today. I wish I wouldn't have r IP the cat and apologize to you on our slack. Because I think that was premature. I think the cat could still make the cut. Man, we might need to dive into the slide because you've said a lot of shit the last couple of weeks
Starting point is 00:40:26 going through this leaderboard. I even said last night, I said I'm thinking about, I'm trying, yeah I'm thinking about like, I said last night at dinner we're getting to the point in the week where I'm talking myself into Patrick Cantlay let's just get this thing started.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Right, but that gets cheapened by I'm talking myself into Mickelson,. But that gets cheapened by I'm talking myself into Mickelson. I'm talking myself into Brooks. I'm talking myself. I told you so. Brooks was on Tuesday. Did you have a Wednesday? No, Brooks was on Tuesday. What are your parlays?
Starting point is 00:40:53 I did. I did. That ain't, that's not great, you know? It's a wide net, TC. And I applaud you on the cant lay, nailing the cant lay thing today, sending KVV out there. That's the one that really mattered. Russ Henley? Yeah, that's today. Send him KVV out there. That's, that's the one that, that really mattered. Yeah, that's true. You shot Bob four holes into the round. Of course TC is trying to shit on me for saying tire. Couldn't putt and tiger proceeded to miss every single putt. He can't putt anymore.
Starting point is 00:41:19 I don't know what more evidence you guys need to see here. It's tough. I am too many painkillers so he can walk and feels in his hands. Wipey, I can't believe he only shot four over today. Like credit to him for that honestly because I mean he made a ton of putts early on to keep that afloat. But yeah, the cat, listen, he's an old guy. I wasn't buying it man, just not buying it. I don't think he's making the cut. He's four over, cuts looking like it's right going to be around four over. mean, it's possible, but he's gonna have to play help around tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:41:49 You know what I'll throw on the on the historical record too is an apology. I'm sorry for that Rory bet. That was mean spirited. Yeah, that was that was I bet that he was gonna bogey number three today. That was that was uncalled for and that was that was not great. That was wrong by me. So I apologize for that, guys. One of your shout out to our friends at Omni hotels, the official hotel and resort at the PGA tour, they're coming off hosting the NCAA championships last month at Omni La Costa Resort and Spa in Carlsbad. The course now open to resort play.
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Starting point is 00:43:13 and register today at omnihotels.com slash Generation Cup. That's omnihotels.com slash Generation Cup. All that and more only at Omni Golf Play the Possibilities. Guys, we've been effusive in our praise of Pinehurst number two. I was stunned, absolutely stunned to receive a text message this week from a media colleague who is not a fan of Pinehurst number two. He's got great golf acumen. He has called a lot of golf. You guys know him. He's been a frequent guest on this show and he doesn't like Pinehurst and I'm
Starting point is 00:43:45 gonna need him to explain himself. If we can welcome in please Mr. Scott Van Pelt from ESPN. I just I would have never tabbed you as a Pinehurst hater. I did it was out of nowhere. I would not see this coming. He hates putter boy. He's with TC. I don't like the greens. That's kind of a deal at Pinehurst. You're right. Here's the thing. That's kind of a deal at pine. You're right. Here's the thing. There's a there's some scar tissue. Okay, the last one we got to do was 14. And then the USG acted like they found a better TV partner when really they just got more money. Sure.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Might not be that. It might not be Piner's fault. I was there. It's like if your girlfriend breaks up with you in a restaurant, you ever go back to that restaurant. You're like, yeah, she dumped me. I'm scarred. Man, I hate this song. Turn this song off. I can't listen to this song. All right. Also, Kymer was just too good and the event was kind of, um, some of the drama was taken out of just cause he was too good. But I was there in 99. It was awesome. I was there in five camo played great. I just don't like
Starting point is 00:44:57 the greens cause I think there's, there's, there, there needs to be something in between it. A shot's perfect or it gets punished. And I think there's too many situations on the golf course where that happens. Having said that, today was awesome. I also said to you in text, I'm psyched for this week. It's gonna be great. Today was great. And Pinehurst is great, I just don't like the greats.
Starting point is 00:45:18 So all right, real quick, do you not like the greens from when you've played it or just watching these guys? Play it you feel like I don't find her I don't love the upside down saucer bit where you can hit a shot that's a Inch away from being excellent and then it ends up 40 yards short of the greener at a bunker and then this is where golf hard-o Twitter guys says well hit a better shot There needs to be some wiggle room between perfect and punished. That's all I'm that's all I'm saying Can I explain I'm just owning the fact that I said that in a text. I said I don't like I
Starting point is 00:46:01 said Can I explain why I do like that and it's because like it is a great test of who is in control of their golf ball in terms of you know where the safe shot is right and your best chance at birdie is going to be inching inching inching closer to that pin inching closer and like ultimately knowing that you've got to be in control of you inch closer to earn that extra little 1235% chance of increasing five percent chance of increasing your birdie percentage. You know, for 72 holes it's just the best. That punishment for a miss where you know there's no surprises when your ball rolls down one of those hills. There's no shock. You know? Yeah. Everything you're saying is reasonable and everyone that loves it, that's, excuse me, that's, I totally understand why. And the odds are it'll be a great champion. And I thought what Scottie said on somewhere could have been live from could have been on wherever it was, just that he was talking to Ted about where do you miss and it's like, well, you know, like, there is nowhere to miss, you
Starting point is 00:47:01 just better hit the green. And it's like, okay, well, that's the chore out here. So, you know, I think you're embellishing a little bit. I just- I'm just having fun, come on. Come on, we need some discourse on this show sometimes. Mark Kalkoveckia tweeted, quote, I'm ready for some abuse, just gonna spit it out. Pinehurst is such a cool area with great courses number two ain't one of them
Starting point is 00:47:26 Most overrated course in the world Me and calc here's the thing about Thursdays what we've seen through the years and I Yesterday I was talking my god Stanford Steve. He said what do you think someone shoots? I said someone shoots 65 So what do you think someone shoots? I say someone will shoot 65. Couple of them. It's like when you, I remember when I'd go to college at Maryland in the fall for my summer job and I'd take whatever cash I had
Starting point is 00:47:51 and I'd put it in the bank. Well, this is what you're putting in the bank and you're gonna draw down against it the rest of the week. Like, I don't think this, I don't think five wins it ain't gonna be, I think that the score will go the other way, is my guess just because this traditionally Thursday's as good as it gets and Tiger alluded to this the other
Starting point is 00:48:11 day and I tend to agree that that you'll see it maybe somebody goes lower tomorrow but I just think from here you know it's gonna go the other way just because traditionally you just what are there 16 guys are under par right now is that is it 15 or 16? It was 14 the last I looked, but play had not finished. It's 15 guys, you're exactly right. Okay, and so I mean a couple of fives.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Look, if Oberg's just gonna pin hunt all day and hit it inside five feet, then I'm way wrong. He's gonna get the double digits and we'll all just laugh. But I just don't, history suggests that that's not the way this'll go. Scott, what do you make of the Rory experience? He looks like a different guy in these majors. He looks very patient.
Starting point is 00:48:53 He looks very calm. He's not hitting some of the silly shots with wedges and some of those that we like to kind of roll our eyes and have our hearts ripped out about. What did you make of today's round and where do you think he's going after this? I think you know I talked to Butch really briefly at Augusta and Butch's thing has always been that he's not trying to build a race car he's just trying to tune it up remind people you know your
Starting point is 00:49:18 your game's great you're great I guess Poppy told him the same thing right when the woman's the line at Augusta he he said he was gonna go get a lesson. She's like, you already know how to play golf. I think as you guys know so well, for him the issues been he's put himself out of position early. I remember Southern Hills, then he started, he led in Southern Hills, I wanna say.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Played great there. But you'd said control your golf ball. He was certainly that. And we all know that his ability to drive is as good as anyone's. And it's just been the wedges have been indifferent. And you worry a little bit about can you get up and down when you find the inevitable green that repels a shot? I don't know. I mean, I felt like this is his greatest start if you're a fan of Rory as you could dream up because you know, he's going to play well. At some point in the four days,
Starting point is 00:50:12 it just typically hasn't been that first one. So I mean, this is a tremendous start, obviously. You've told this story before, I think on the pod, it's been four or five years and you told it again to me at the Masters and it's just the best story. So I'm gonna ask you to tell it again. But Beth Page, Tiger Woods wins the US years and you told it again to me at the Masters and it's just the best story So I'm gonna ask you to tell it again, but Beth page Tiger Woods wins the US Open You got you got to tell it you got tell me your story about after after that US Open All right. So well, I got to go back to Augusta because he won that year at Augusta and he came in and he sits down
Starting point is 00:50:39 We're gonna do the Sunday conversation. I like how you doing. He's like, I'm so hungry And I said, yeah, what do you want? He's like, I'm so hungry. And I said, Yeah, what do you want? He's like, God, I want a pizza. I said, All right, what do you want to pizza? He's like, I don't know, sauce and pepperoni. What are you talking about? I said, All right, you went to Bethpage, we'll get you pizza. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Sunday at Bethpage, he's going to win. We've called a local pizzeria up in New York and like, hey, we need a pizza, it's for Tiger Woods. And the guy on the phone is like, I don't care if it's for Sandy Claus, all right? Not impressed. We're like, well, it actually it's for Tiger Woods. Can we get a pie? Yeah, we got it sorted out. Bethpage, big place, a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:51:28 50,000 people are leaving at once. We're trying to get a pizza into the joint. It literally had like cops on a motorcycle, like a police escort to get the pie into Bethpage. This is all happened. We get the pie. I want to say that the order pecking order went like golf channel got to sit down somebody sky BBC whomever we were going to be like wherever we were in the food chain maybe we were first because we were rights holder. I was like no no you guys go because we don't have the pie. Well, miraculously, in walks one of our cameramen with a large sausage and pepperoni, plops
Starting point is 00:52:11 it down on a chair. Eventually Tiger and Stiney get to the door. Tiger looks up. He's like, what's that? I'm like, what do you mean what's that? Very nods a lot, naturally, because the pizza's here. So you said you wanted a pizza. He's like, are you shitting me?
Starting point is 00:52:30 We got a pizza for you, pal. He looks at Stan and he's like, can I eat the pizza? He's like, you just won the US Open. You can do whatever you want. We shut the door and for a half an hour, we're in there just eating slices. We're talking about, it was the Nets and the Lakers had played in the finals. We're talking about Kobe eating pizza. We're just, you know, sophomore, people are ripping farts. It's just, it's just high, high comedy nonsense. Sophomore, whatever. There is a very, very fine order to the way things are supposed to go. They've got to calibrate it, right?
Starting point is 00:53:03 You get them for two minutes, you get it for three, maybe you get them for four. If it's Rinaldi, it could be 15, who knows? We're in there for a long time eating pizza with Tiger. And the guy from the USGA, Craig Smith, bless his heart, he wanted to murder me. And what was I going to do? It's Tiger Woods at the peak of his powers. And at some point at dawn, we probably should bang out an interview. So we did. And then he went on his way. And that night, if you ask, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:35 Doug Ferguson and people that were waiting, like, why'd you have to wait so long? Well, cat's out of the bag. It was us at the US Open with Tiger Woods eating a sausage and pepperoni pizza. Sounds like Scotty needed that pizza guy maybe to get him into Valhalla. We had far better cooperation from the cops at Bethpage to get the pizza into the room than, you know, although I guess that's all sorted out, right? Sounds like it.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Fantastic story. I love it. Well, Scott, we appreciate I didn't mean to throw you under the bus with your partners takes but appreciate you popping on as always in your support as always. Yeah, try to enjoy the rest of the week. Relax again. Again. It's a great course. Just remember, just remember when you see a guy in a shot and so goofy happens you like, he had at least he had a point. Some of them are some of our fractional. And I have scar tissue, USJs ruined some golf courses, but they won't wreck this one. You were right. It's going to be great. Today was great. Happy golf. Love you guys.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Thank you, Scott. Appreciate you as always. Thank you. He's the man. He is the man. P-PAL mission is over. That was the last bit of pop-it. So thank you for tolerating that. He's a Maryland guy. He just doesn't, you know, he doesn't like things down in North Carolina. All right. You know what?
Starting point is 00:54:51 It's so funny to see whenever a Kymor or Moran pop up on screen in an SVP voice, I say, he a clique like, like he does with he a turf. Like, I don't know why that's where my brain goes. God, you know, and then they had a big sausage piece of delivery guy. God, you were all like six. Don't don't you fucking say it. Don't say it. We had a great amen Lynch tweeted out after the round. He Brooks Brooks declined media after the round. And amen tweeted
Starting point is 00:55:23 out a text exchange that he had with Brooks afterwards. It was just delightful. You should check it out on golfweek.com. He said he didn't want to do it because he didn't feel like it. Same questions every week. The lack of creativity of the questions is kind of boring. I know I'm not a media favorite either. So it's not like anyone will notice lol. And very much Eamon just keeps egging them on. I'm like, you sound like you're pretty mad. Like you sound like you're, no, I'm not mad. No, I'm No, I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I got enough self-doubt. I'm gonna watch some talk tonight, right?
Starting point is 00:55:50 He's trying to get back and watch a real sport like hockey like you said but I would highly recommend checking that out they got such a interesting little relationship and Amen doesn't put up with any shit. I want to see Amon's outgoing messages as well I want to make sure they were as harsh as they as he put as he put it in the, uh, in the actual text. I actually have no doubt that they were. I think he would bring the heat. Um, but also I truly, if Brooks would just, if to make a serious point here, like if Brooks would give people something, like I think he's incredibly smart and very thoughtful and like has interesting things to say. And I very much care what they are, but, and maybe he's incredibly smart and very thoughtful and like has interesting things to say. And I
Starting point is 00:56:26 I very much care what they are but and maybe it's is a chicken and egg. Maybe he does get bad questions but like I think he I think he truly does have a lot of good stuff to say and I would I would love to hear it. Maybe I'm relying too much on the the full swing season one episode but I think there's more going on there than people. And people uh understand. That's just the block I'm gonna be on. Yeah, I also think like he's gotta understand
Starting point is 00:56:48 what the purpose of like post-round media is, right? Which is like people are just, they not every got to see every one of his shots. Like they're gonna ask you for your reaction about it, you know, and they need to write something about it and wanna document something about it. And yeah, it might be kind of boring, but like that's part of the job, right?
Starting point is 00:57:03 I don't think walking off the course, Thursday, US Open, you're gonna get like get like a one you're not in the best mood like give the give a answer on the state of the world or anything necessarily and you're not that good at that you don't I you know he was good in season one of full swing that was like the first time we've seen that but like I don't know if you can if you can say like oh the questions aren't creative enough and then go on like Jake Paul's podcast. That's where that's, that's like, yeah, man, I don't know if that's necessarily the case. I don't disagree. Like it is boring and formulaic, but like, I don't put that on the writers, but like be
Starting point is 00:57:35 more creative in your post round. I know. I, yeah. I think also if somebody just asked him like, what's the meaning of life? Like, I don't think he's gonna, I don't know. I don't think he's gonna really go into it. Yeah. Sorry. Baseball, hockey, stuff's gonna. I don't know. I don't think he's gonna really create the noise. Golf. Yeah, sorry. Real sports, baseball, hockey, stuff like that. I don't know. It is, he's not doing himself any favors, but I'm putting my hand up, Brooks. I care what you have to say.
Starting point is 00:57:51 I would love to hear it. I cared when he was like not too cool. I mean, he's often too cool for school, right? And it's been a while since we've heard an interesting really answer from him on something, so. The seats, do you have a seat update for us, something. So the seats, do you have a seat update for STC? Yeah, yeah, I just heard kind of confirmation that they they I
Starting point is 00:58:12 guess they replaced 10 the screw on 10,000 different seats. 30 guys were doing it, you know, people were finding screws in the grandstands today too. So I didn't hear anything about any of them breaking or anything like that today. So that's a dub there, I guess. Brian Kershner asked the question, who's more likely to win this event at this point, Rory or Scotty?
Starting point is 00:58:38 Because I hate going on the record on Thursdays because it could change very quickly. Especially if things start going backwards. I don't think they're going to go backwards tomorrow, but I do think they'll go backwards on Saturday. The forecast looks hot as shit. Just crazy hot, even less chance of humidity and thunderstorms and all that it just looks hot and so yeah yeah who would have thought North Carolina in June man like yeah it's kind of goes with it cool off by 2047 I think Cody and I might need to speak with our legal team before we we answer this Rory Scotty question your corporate counsel yeah I mean it's those kinds of things. Like we make comments and the market reacts.
Starting point is 00:59:29 I just wouldn't want to... We move lines. Yeah, I just don't want to do anything. You guys go first. My bet might move the line. Not even Cantlay likes what's happening with... Because Cantlay is in public. Apollo, Goldman, these are publicly traded firms. You guys are working with some some some P E ghouls.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Should have it's it's on me. I should have said this, but SVP is also a silent partner as well. He did have a minority stake in in the block party acquisition as well as the only person from the former board that wasn't relieved and came over when the new acquisition was was brought in. We're happy to have you. Thank you. I'm okay to say, and I'm going to stick my neck out there and say Rory. I'm going to give Scottie six strokes here. Did you guys see how Rory played today?
Starting point is 01:00:16 I mean, I don't think, you know, I know there's a bad round that's going to come. You see how good we played and how bad Scottie played and it's only six strokes? Well that's the thing is that like I don't know, Pinehurst isn't one of those places where you just find it you know? Like it's just so many defenses because you're hit you're not hitting the pins you're hitting to sections within sections of greens and you're you're forcing yourself to punch from there and his leg putting looked okay today, but like everything else around that was just completely off.
Starting point is 01:00:49 And if I'm going off of eye test wise, like Rory looked really good and looked in control and hell yeah, I'm gonna ride with Rory. Okay. I have the worst answer for it. I don't know. Like I really honestly don't know You're not supposed to fence sit here but like I
Starting point is 01:01:10 there's so much freaking golf left and obviously I want to get swept up in the emotion of right now the easy answer is Rory like but We've been here. We've been in this spot We have and there's scar tissue there for me as a fan rooting for it But let me ask you this then who would you rather win? What are you rooting for? I mean that'd be Rory. I'm still, despite any accusations that have come from even having the,
Starting point is 01:01:34 even having the Fogran slam still on the line. Yeah. I mean Rory winning another major, getting to five. Like that's, I don't know. That's there's a lot more emotion tied up in Rory. I think then there is Scotty. I mean, I do like rooting for Scotty a lot and I, I mean, I don't know that's there's a lot more emotion tied up in in Rory I think then there is Scotty I mean I do like rooting for Scotty a lot and I I am rooting for him But Rory's we've been on the Rory journey for quite some time man. It's uh, he there's a certain level of excitement
Starting point is 01:01:55 He brings that only like he and the non-tiger division like only like he and speed still kind of invoke in me Bryson does in a different way, but I was gonna say, I'll tell you who's gonna be there. Like, I'll guarantee you he's there at the end. Whether he wins or not is Bryson. Bryson ain't going away. I think his floor is probably the highest this week. Really? Like, he starts. I know that he hit the ball really good off the tee, but like all of Pinehurst's trouble off the tee is left. And that's like his go to miss.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Like you start. We saw this with Ben. I'm sorry, Ben, to bring it up. But like you saw this was also wearing up one of those P. Hurst hats. That's what we have to bear for losing. Yeah, you see. He didn't pick that out himself. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Bryson is is a really really he's like almost like a made in a lab golfer right now. And do I think he should be able to use his like auto correcting irons? I don't like after listening to describe that. No, I definitely don't think that should be allowed. But it is and it's not his fault. But yeah, he's incredibly incredibly accurate and very long right now. Doesn't have to putt perfect to win this. And I don't know, if I honestly if I was picking between Bryson and Rory right now, I think I'm on Bryson.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Honestly, I think he's more likely to sustain it for 72 holes. It's gonna be interesting. I mean, it's freakish dude. I mean he is you can't like overpower Pinehurst, but His formula for driving right now seems to be like he's getting it down there enough Even if it's into the sandy areas it's like wedges on on most of these holes where it's like it kind of eliminates so much of Not eliminates a lot of the problems with it with the short grip with the long grass But it just doesn't feel like it's gonna be hard to make par from where he's hitting tee shots, even if they're offline.
Starting point is 01:03:49 And they're not really offline right now. I don't know, dude, he does not feel wild. That's the thing. It feels like extremely in control. Do you know who is wild today? It was someone that, thank goodness I didn't publicly vocalize this. My guy Cam Young.
Starting point is 01:04:03 I was all riding high because the new driver came out. I don't know what's going on, man. He needs to take a couple weeks off. regroup. Just go chill, I guess at the ranch in El Paso. It was bad. But Bryson does seem to be in like complete control and short game. And I thought that might be an issue around here after his comments like, no, I just use like my 60 for everything or I put it. I'm like, oh, that's not going to work around here. It works. Uh, so I don't,
Starting point is 01:04:31 I don't know. I still will say Rory over Bryson. Uh, but you guys want to like run through the rest of the top end right now, because there's some rising names that are here. Go ahead. I mean, yeah, Pavan had it to what? He was five. He was five pretty early on. Two Eagles today. Two Eagles in his first 10 holes there. A couple bogeys coming in, but you know, he's looking to be, he's looking to lock up his candidacy for Bethpage. We've talked about Bryson Big Tone you guys buying or selling?
Starting point is 01:05:06 I'm buying I was buying after the memorial TC everyone shouted me down. I was to you know, I was to each call me a heretic. He's back in a big way. Nobody wanted to get out there with me TC. If I buy up any more, I'll have over 5% ownership and I've got to file all this shit. Yeah, it's just not any asked to join the church. That's a TV is right now changes all this tax stuff for me. I just I'm not interested in big tones gonna sue me probably.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Also, you guys are in rough shape because there's 15 guys inside the top 10. So we got we got some room to run. Did you guys see Hatton today on camera I can't remember which part three it was He made the birdie. It was on 17 he just like dog cussed his his t-shot and barely clears the It's it's like Closest to the day makes the putt it was it was funny guys. I'm so overhattin Yeah, you said that only months ago and I think I was I scoffed at it. I'm with guys. I'm still over hadden. Yeah, you said that only months ago
Starting point is 01:06:05 And I think I was I scoffed at it. I'm with you. I'm good. Thanks having him have to wear the lesion Very funny teen stuff is their lesion 23 or whatever it is is super funny Akshay kind of a home game for Akshay didn't have that one in my models good for him. I Think it kind of makes sense, right? I I have that one in my models. Good for him. I think it kind of makes sense, right? I don't know, I get him back. Outside of Phil, I don't know anyone else in this field
Starting point is 01:06:30 that's played Pinehurst number two more than Okshay. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty true. Like a ton of North South juniors, ton of North Souths, like beats it up all the time. Carolina's juniors tour rolled through there, like he knows this place front and back. And just a massive shout out. I mean, actually is 29 and 22 and a half yet and he's like a full stroke
Starting point is 01:06:51 above average on the PGA tour. Like that dude has carved out a career extremely, extremely quickly unconventional path. And I just want to shout that out. He's a very, very, very legit call for who who's older Tom Kim or Ahay? Akshay Akshay. Okay, just just throwing that out there. Should should actually he shouldn't be altered. So, sh Kim's next I really don't have a whole lot to add there. Corey Connors same deal. We talked Sergio earlier Sam Bennett
Starting point is 01:07:28 You know shout out to Jordan that's that's her guy I'd love to pre pre put him on the clock for tomorrow We've got Aaron rye up there Aaron rise and playing some good golf Jackson Subur or is Spencer Levine nicknamed him when we played detective because he just he knows everything about everybody is just always asking questions. Jackson Subur is an Ole Miss guy. Good friend of our our guy Bunky Perkins. Wanted to shout that out play played great today. You got Paul Massey I got a couple shout outs if you've ever watched our gas gorilla videos. He's a member at a member at
Starting point is 01:08:02 Paul Massey. He he plays one of the holes down the wrong fairway he plays the 11th hole down the 12th fairway and That's what has been alleged I believe and I think there's might be a could potentially for a tree being put into in the Renovation to prevent that from continuing to happen after I I told on him to Bobby weed. Sorry about that. Oh Yeah, I think, you know, looking at quite a few, like this is a good, I think it's a good setup for some of the amateurs and some of the young pros
Starting point is 01:08:33 out there of like, you know. Just a quick shout to Steven Yeager at Evenpar as well. We talked, he was on the pod about a month ago talking about his transformation and about how the next step for him was competing in major championships. Now he's got the arsenal to be able to do it. Like he's right there.
Starting point is 01:08:46 T 16 after round one. So shop, yeah, we've got a Logan McAllister at, at, at even now, this, this is going to turn into a story because he's got Joe, the show, Lakava's son on the bag for him. So, uh, if he can keep that going, the opener. Yeah. Uh, a couple of more, I think we've got, we've got more Akawa. for him. So if you can keep that going. The opener. Yeah. A couple more. I think we've got we've got more Kawa.
Starting point is 01:09:14 More Kawa had some things to say about the bunkers. I guess it wasn't as pointed as it came off. But you know, he was saying how there's different levels of sand in the bunkers. It's the same thing on the sand belt dog. Like bunkers are a hazard. They're not supposed to be optimal playing conditions. And I know the USGA is monitoring this this week or whatever, but that's part of the challenge. You gotta keep it out of the bunkers. Yeah. All we saw was the transcript and it didn't sound like he was necessarily complaining about it. I think he was just acknowledging the fact that that was true. I don't think he would. Yeah. I think Colin lost that benefit of the doubt when he started putting shoes on his dog. I had a feeling that was coming Yeah, but so
Starting point is 01:09:47 Are you guys buying or selling Brooks? I? Don't know I think buying I Think buying I mean I think again like watching watching Rory play like what felt like a pretty perfect round of golf out here reminded me a lot of how Brooks plays golf You know if he's in control of his ball, I think he has the patience test. He kind of knows that gear and knows what to do. So I like it. I was going to fly. So when he got to three under, I went back through his hole by hole and I was getting ready to like do like a screenshot of like, I guarantee you Brooks
Starting point is 01:10:20 has just played the fat part of every green and click back through it. I was like, Oh, he missed there and got away with it. Oh, and he missed there and got away with it. Oh, and he missed there and got away with it. Oh, and he missed there and got away with it. And then all of a sudden he made three bogeys coming in. So I'm not positive how in control of his golf ball he is. I was surprised to see that when I went and dug into the hole by hole and wasn't, I guess, wasn't as surprised when I saw him make a couple of bogeys to go backwards. So as it gets harder, it could play more in his benefit. But yeah, not kind of let the air out of his sails a little bit.
Starting point is 01:10:49 I think there's something else with Brooks too, where he's won at places with, they tend to have big greens with a fat part. And there isn't really a fat part of a lot of these greens. I give, you know, Beth Page, right? Those are big, pretty flat greens. Belle Reeve, dog shit. You know, Shinnecock, a lot of undulation in those greens, but there's some big surfaces there.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Yeah, good. Um, you know, Aaron Hills, there's there's not a lot like, you know, kind of some pretty proper greens there. And then what was the what was the one I'm missing? Aaron Hills. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, big massive greens at Oak Hill, you know, and plenty plenty of contours to kind of stop the ball there. So he didn't putt well today either. And I'd be remiss if I did not point out that the sustainability models have identified Matthew Pavan as a likely candidate to regress
Starting point is 01:11:42 four and a half strokes gained today. So this is it. It's not me pointing it out. That's the models that are putting that out. I hate that because the French are, you know, big into their nuclear power. Normally very sustainable. Neil Shipley also really good round from him kind of continuing his, his solid play. You know, he's no longer spooked from whatever tiger said to him. You know, and Robert Rock, he's been retired for like two or three years now. He's doing it. Isaiah Salinda, good young player from Stanford. Davis Thompson, my guy H.E. Harris English,
Starting point is 01:12:21 absolutely flushing it. Big Bob McIntyre solid anything to say there Nothing other than I think we're about we're about wraps here. That's that's that's pretty far down the list Still 16. Yeah, Tommy sepstraka Martin climber didn't see that one coming captain and then Adam Scott to cheat all those Tim beatingating making his US Open debut as well. Plus one, tied with Ken Smith, Ricky Fowler, Willie Mack, good story there too.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Good to see Willie Mack while there. Cody, you are gonna give us a little bit of, is it a history lesson? A little Pinehurst deep dive here. What's the next segment here? Well, I don't know it started out to be a lot of different things we're going to do this early on in the preview show we're going to do an
Starting point is 01:13:10 unhappy hour just rolling it over but I want to say this is that I got really excited obviously I spent a lot of time a pinehurst spent a lot of time in village was very lucky to live there for probably a couple too many years and then as soon as we moved away I immediately wanted to get back. I got so excited when I saw this advert for the pinecrest in this this week going on. So if anybody that's listening or watching, they are also having a block party every day this week and go check it out.
Starting point is 01:13:38 I don't know if there's Rory fans there or not, but they got live music, good tunes, you know, go go check them out. But this is a good reminder, Cody, we should see some desist their ass. We technically own this this trademark at this point. Exactly. We do. And if people didn't recognize that from the agenda now, they know. What's with the train, too? There's I saw there was like a happy hour or a party on the train.
Starting point is 01:14:00 So it knew this year they have the train. So usually the Carolina Express that runs You know, it's just kind of fake there. We use it around the holidays for you know, Santa Claus and Polar Express crap like that But they actually added a new route with Amtrak that's taking people straight from a pickup drop-off location in Raleigh Right to the resort. So it's it's incredible. You're not going through Southern Pines. It's not that route. It's the one that goes up from Pinehurst to Carthage. Like it's truly incredible. So you don't just have to like fight your way through parking and everything else like that. You can truly come on and ride the train and you can sing that song if you want. I get it. But you can have whatever party you want to have going on there. Guys, the reason why I bring up the
Starting point is 01:14:45 pinecrest in, do you guys know who one of the owners of the pinecrest in is at one point in time? Just learned it today. Putter Boys dad. Donald Ross. Well, not putter boys dad, but yeah, Donnie Ross, one of his buddies. It was not, they didn't found it. A lot of people think that he founded the actual pinecrest in. There was actually a lady who was the first. She owned the first independent hotel in Pinehurst and then later moved over and was like the head head of hospitality and housekeeping at the the manor in and then later moved on to this. But Donald Ross owned the Pinecrest and really, really cool fact. Have
Starting point is 01:15:26 you guys seen any of the old pictures of pine hearse and like when they first started building the golf course and of course it was built on a cow pasture, everything else like that kind of looked like this. That's where actual like pine hearse number one, pine hearse number three sit at now. Do you know why it looks like that? Because the cows got consumption. Well, that's why the village was born. Reason why, TC, do you know anything about turpentine? No. So turpentine is actually harvested from pine trees.
Starting point is 01:15:59 And that's why North Carolina is called the Tar Heel State, because you would first harvest turpentine from the pine trees then you'd use all that excess sap and you boil it down into tar, call them tar heels during the Civil War and it kind of stuck from there but that's why all the trees were cut down and when they came down on the train from New England you know everywhere else in the Northeast they came and there's like wow there's just a ton of empty sand here with you know, everywhere else in the Northeast. They came and there's like, wow, there's just a ton of empty sand here with, you know, it looks like trees. Why don't we build a golf course here?
Starting point is 01:16:33 That's why that's kind of why it happened. We're weird. Total accident. Kind of an accident. So you guys know Mr. Tufts, he's the originator or he's the one who established the village of Pinehurst. He wanted a southern health kind of colony. He was, you know, not in the best of health coming down from Boston. Didn't want to go all the way down to Florida on the train and decided that North Carolina was kind of the spot for for this new village that he wanted to establish.
Starting point is 01:17:03 So in 1895, he establishes the village of Pinehurst. And he originally set it up as a health colony for people with consumption. I still have no clue what really consumption is. Consumption. It didn't really last too long. I guess it's kind of runs hand in hand with tuberculosis. But shortly after, they
Starting point is 01:17:25 realized that tuberculosis is like extremely contagious. And so after like one season of inviting everybody down to like, Hey, come check out our place and stay in our hotel and like, stay at these cool guest houses. Like, no, please, please don't come second thought. Yeah, you're making every excuse me. What did I say? It's actually tuberculosis. And then a bunch of people are tweeting how that's bullshit. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:17:51 No science that that's how it spreads. Exactly. You guys, the original activities around the Pinehurst Resort were not golf. It was actually like, you know, the everybody in England, our guy, Patty's going to hate this, but it's like fox hunting, shooting, everything else like that. If you spend any time around the Carolina, they have a ton of old, like cool adverts that they had, not just putter boys posters, things like that. But you know, they had tennis at this point in time, they're all the way up to three golf courses. Of course, Donnie was down by then. I think he moved down in like 1902 or something like that to build the first three golf courses.
Starting point is 01:18:30 No, no, no, no. Consumptives received at Pinehurst. No, no, no. Nobody's going to get sick. Stay home. All right. Do you guys know why outside of the sand and everything, the routine maintenance around Pinehurst number one and number two were done like this with a roller. So you want to talk about like why the turf is so firm and fast and over time
Starting point is 01:18:50 is just because for over 130 years, they've just been like double rolling it every single day. They've not planted new grass since then. Of course. I mean, we're talking about layers of layers. Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of feet of indeed I'm just hearing they have planted new grass since since the early 1900s who could say This is this is what Valhalla like if all if you guys want to get the rollers. Yeah buy a bunch of sand And then just start rolling it all right in a hundred years. Yeah. Yeah exactly. Otherwise fuck off until then okay?
Starting point is 01:19:24 years. Yeah, exactly. Otherwise, fuck off until then. Okay. No, this is the shit that's like makes me like every time I go fuck Torrey Pines, man. Like this is this is this is real shit here. Yeah, for sure. National open, we should have last thing. ass places. Hundreds of years of history around that place. I think one of the coolest things about Pinehurst and how it's evolved over the last, you know, 15-20 years with the current leadership that they have is how the cradle came to be. It's originally the first hole of courses one and
Starting point is 01:19:57 course number three. This week it's actually a driving range, which I think kind of shocks people because anybody who's ever come to Pinehurst and tried to get a tee time on the cradle, number one is 50 bucks. But number two, it's just a driving range this week. And it could be outside of probably the Prax facility at Augusta National. One of the most expensive driving ranges at any course that holds a professional event. What an epic driving range.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Great targets. I don't think really cool. I hope they move the pine cone out of their code, man. Well, I thought the pine cone was taking shots on the move. Shout out to Will. I think it is actually parked like by the first T somewhere. OK. Anyway, lose the pine cone for a while.
Starting point is 01:20:42 It was MIA. There's there's a lot of things that Weird mysteries around there just like the mystery of the secret tunnel who would have thought that there's just a tunnel now from the members Locker room. It's not a secret Yeah, weird shit going around around there and very light haunted if you like I think Cody that was like the 201 class if you need the pine hearse 101 class I want to shout out that Shane Ryan golf digest video was also was also excellent with smore. It's sweet I truly truly is and I think that's what again we said this but like the history around this place
Starting point is 01:21:14 Why is pinehurst and anchor say why did the USGA? Invest in this and also get major tax breaks like that's not a secret either It's for a reason because I think pinehurst shows. And I can't wait for the end of this event. And we talk about 2029 and we talked about in 2014, how cool it was for men and women to go back to back. That's happening again the next time they host this, which I'm really, really psyched about. Hell yeah, that was great.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Thank you. That makes me wanna go to Pioneer's. Thank you, Cody. We had a couple of questions here and we are gonna get out of here. I'm gonna get to some live from I see Johnson Wagner's out there. I think we've already missed the chipping exhibition. Johnson channel. Let's go to our foot joy moment of joy. DJ, I'm going to throw
Starting point is 01:21:56 it to you first. We teased it up at the top. These are just moments could be truly anything. This is a true sandbox much like pinehurst of You could bring anything in your life as a moment of joy brought to you by our friends at Footjoy, the official shoe, glove and rainwear partner of NoLayingUp. Dave, you're first. Well, I'll say I missed, there are very few things that would have had me missing today's golf, but I missed a little bit of the morning coverage because I went and played golf, had a tee time at Washington County Golf Course right down the road from Aaron Hills. Awesome golf course, first of all.
Starting point is 01:22:25 But my moment of joy is just is playing in one day competitive golf events. I played a Wisconsin State Golf Association event today. It was a net. God, I don't even know how I'm going to get all this right. It was a net partner event. It was like net two man Stableford. But the Stableford is weird because the low man counted twice. But both scores count. It was just a very funny, weird format. I had such a fun time man. It was great
Starting point is 01:22:50 I would urge implore everybody explore your state golf association if you're here in the United States because very often they run hundreds of championships throughout the years They're not just like the big state am the big state publics, the big state match play, whatever, where you have to be like a plus four to go play, they play they run a lot of like net events, partner events, fun things, especially during the week, there's just weird stuff going on. So I had such a fun time hitting cups and
Starting point is 01:23:18 playing real golf and just just having a ball out there. It makes me wish I lived in a state that had real human beings in it It's just like the hostile old Some of the FSGA one one day events with the olds are also really fun I think you would have truly a great time out there, too What you were saying you had some sort of ruling you guys got some sort of outrageous ruling I was outrageous. I don't know if I remember if I said that or not.
Starting point is 01:23:47 First of all, I respect the ruling. So there was no question about it. I, there's no protest. There's no anything. Let me just tell you guys this. So Washington County is, it's a lot like Aaron Hills. It's just a ton of Fescue, like big ballpark with a ton of Fescue.
Starting point is 01:24:01 Wasn't really like marked as like red. It's just on the rule sheet, like basically play the Fescue. It wasn't really marked as red. It's just on the rule sheet, like basically play the Fescue as a hazard. Play it as a red hazard. So short par four, drivable par four, I hit it like kind of a snap hook left into the Fescue. And it was very much like, I don't know if we're going to find that. So I was like, I think my best place to drop is just going to be reteeing from here because of the angle and I didn't cover anything. So I was like, I think my best place to drop is just going to be reteeing from here because of the angle and I didn't cover anything. So I declared a provisional and I hit another ball out there and I ended up finding the first one. And then we got like two holes later and I was like, ah, I don't know if that's actually I don't know if you can declare provisional when it's red.
Starting point is 01:24:41 And so then I asked and they said, no, that's not allowed technically kind of a wonky rule because it's, you know, but you knew they basically gave me enough rope to hang myself. So did you know that the Fescue was playing as a red hair, a red hazard? I said, yes, I did. They said, then that's going to be a penalty. And I said, that's, that's, that's totally fine. But I had not heard that one before. TC, what's your moment of joy? A lot of different directions we could go here. We go in a lot of different directions we could go here.
Starting point is 01:25:05 We could go with Ludwig hitting like 16 greens, which is crazy. I'll have to check. I don't think it's plural. I think it is just moment of joy. Yeah. And something that didn't bring me joy today, Sally too, was I went to Chick-fil-A.
Starting point is 01:25:18 You're also not a didn't. And they changed their, they changed like the Arnold Palmer at Chick-fil-A is called a Sun a Sunjoy they did not it's been years and years TC I'm shocked just your moment of joy TC that's all we're looking for here. My moment of joy Sarge will you flash it up on the screen for me this this guy walks right in front of our guy Adam Fonseca, golf unftered, tweeted this little screen grab of this guy walks right in front of the camera. I think it was Brooks. He goes, bro, really? And then our friend Luke Boatwright retweets it and says, this dude lives in my neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:25:58 He's the best. And that just made me so happy. I just watched it like 10 times. I started cracking up. I'll retweet it so people can see it. That's fantastic. I'm going full perspective on my moment of joy. It's been a huge travel year, big travel year. I would love to be at Pinehurst, I really would. I just need to be at home a little more frequently.
Starting point is 01:26:24 And so spending some time at home. My daughter said her first word this week, which I if I was at the US Open this week, I would have missed and it's it was just incredible. And was it variance? She said data. I thought it was data. But it was data. And it's first Father's Day coming up this Sunday. And I've got to watch some of the golf with her today and it was it was very nice to not have my my my feet in two different places it was very much like I'm very happy to be taking in this one from home so she made that very special and that's that's my that's my moment very maybe maybe a little too literal moment of joy but that was my moment of joy for this past week. That's phenomenal. That's beautiful. You had the second one on video. It's just great. Great. Got it. All right. We're going to get out of here. We got a couple of questions we can save for another night where we don't have guests in there, but we do need the KVV Memorial Stick
Starting point is 01:27:20 Your Neck Out prediction. Let's buck them, get them out there for what? Just a prediction for the rest of this week. Dej, I'm gonna throw to you first. Are we doing a bit? Is it supposed to be an obvious prediction or an actual prediction? Actual prediction. I think Rory wins. I've been thinking about it, Cody.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Oh yeah, come on. I'm with you. I think Rory wins. Come on, Dej. That could either be a bit or it could be serious. You don't know, but either way, you're gonna buy a ticket a ticket Cody. Do you have one I'm putting you on the spot Yeah, Roy is gonna win this thing Wow TC stick your neck out I'm gonna I'm taking it day by day. I'm gonna say
Starting point is 01:27:58 Zack Zack Blair and Bryce and de Shambo are paired together on Saturday That's one of the most provocative parents most provocative pairings in the history of golf. Francis, we bet. It's like Eddie Lowry. I'm sticking my neck out. I think Bryson's going to win. Wow. He's going to win. I do. God, that'd be sick.
Starting point is 01:28:22 I think he's going to win. I think number number two for Bryce and a much more proper one too. Like that was a totally different setup and style of play that he was playing. And I think Bryce is gonna win it. But also I still think Scott is gonna win as well. So that's my- And possibly Rory. That's the-
Starting point is 01:28:40 And possibly Ludwig. And maybe more Kawa as well. So all right, that's gonna do do it for night one Thursday recap. Thanks everyone for tuning in. Thanks to high noon as always. Thanks to TC for putting in our slack. They should put a bunch of snakes in the native areas. That should be my moment of joy.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Actually, that was the best slack message of the day. And thank you, of course, to foresight Omni SVP for on, Cody for the history lesson and for running the ones and twos. Great, great day. Can't wait for the rest of the week. One of the best weeks of the year. And Pinehurst is delivering the goods. So thanks everyone for tuning in during major weeks. You guys are what makes it very fun to do these.
Starting point is 01:29:15 And we'll bring them Friday, Saturday and Sunday. See you then. Shout out to the USGA. We're rooting for you guys. You're crushing it. Go team. We're also keeping an eye on them. But we're also keeping an eye on them.

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