No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 856 - Saturday U.S. Open Live Show

Episode Date: June 16, 2024

Bryson DeChambeau holds a 3 shot lead with 18 holes to play at the 2024 U.S. Open. Matthieu Pavon, Rory McIlroy, and Patrick Cantlay sit 3 back at -4 total. We are joined by KVV on the ground to discu...ss Bryson's round. We run through the leaderboard, get a Black Party update, talk odds-and-ins and more. If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining The Nest: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at nolayingup.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Be the right club. Be the right club today. Yes! Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No laying up live show Saturday, US Open edition. We got a lot of golf to talk about. We got a big golfer to talk about. Sally here.
Starting point is 00:00:50 TC is here. Hello, Mr. TC. Como estas, mi amigo? Very excited. We got tequila flowing over here. Big Randy is here on a Saturday night. Hello, Mr. Big. Hello, guys.
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Starting point is 00:01:54 Absolutely amped to talk about some things TC was the highlight of the day for you. Oh Highlight of the day that's complicated. Uh, I Think it was NBC just completely getting hit by a freight train of karma and just just Melting down losing their sound losing their graphics all of it You know, I'm turning a negative into a positive here, right? It was like not the thing that we're mad at them about like technical difficulties happen, right? I mean,'s really like not been their problem but you've lost all your goodwill uh you know I've heard it was a power outage of some kind that happened and uh but when you've pissed people off for this long
Starting point is 00:02:33 and you mess it up during the US Open Week it's just it's just tough no uh you know that happened and we'll we'll save some hamster damn but Randy you in a good mood tonight you're in a feisty mood tonight where are you at tonight? II won't. I won't begrudge uh the setup. Whatever people know where I stand on that. I'd say my the highlight of my day though was um the two triples we got to watch late in
Starting point is 00:02:58 the day on thirteen. You know, on on a day where I'm looking at the core stats, there were eight others, the dreaded others. We saw two of those happen on 13. Of course, your boy, Solly, big tone and then TC, sorry, our guy Ludwig, but that was, that was, I got a big tone too. That was good stuff. Well, listen, the story of the day is Bryson DeChambeau. We're going to get in some, some highlights of the day, some little bit of play by play here and recap just in case you get to watch everything. We're going to check in some some highlights of the day some little bit of play by play here and recap just in case you get to watch everything we're going to check in we'll do some lingering and loitering how far back is too far back.
Starting point is 00:03:29 KVV is going to pop in at some point. It's got a great story to share which we've got to hear right before we came out of the air so stick around for that one we'll get some questions we'll do some fan duel picks all that but Bryson DeChambeau early on gets it up there stuff sit in there tight on the third hole with, had a great look for Birdie, but misses that and then goes on to bogey the fourth hole. But Birdie the fifth, Birdie the seventh hole gets up and down from the bunker on 10, then gets physio work done on the other side of a fence. He asked the cameras, as soon as they said his physio was on the way, I got the screenshot tools ready. I was like, Oh God, here we go. We're about to get some memes out of this. Bryson asked the cameras not to follow him. But the drone got a shot of him on the other
Starting point is 00:04:09 side of this fence. I think they're burying a body back there. It was a very, very, very normal sports out to Kyle Porter. It was like shots of rocking him back in 94. Then he, of course, steps up and pumps one down 11 rolls in a birdie. It's 192 ball speed. Then off the 12th hole, uh, made a couple of pars on twice, absolutely stuffed one on 13 after he was tempted to go for it, uh,
Starting point is 00:04:37 turns to the crowd and says, don't boo me, laid it up into a bunker, then stuffed it and then actually missed the putt, then drove away right on 14 made the birdie on 14 makes double on 16 after hitting the green the ball rolls all the way back his chip rolls back to his feet he makes the mistake he can't make makes double Then steps up an absolute stuffs one into 17 makes birdie pounds a drive down 18 two putts Makes par on 18 shoots 67 takes a three shot lead into this is a great pickup on the screen from KBV, who is out following him, takes a three shot lead,
Starting point is 00:05:08 just everybody pulling for him. We got a question in from David Parks 33. He said, if it's Rory Bryson, and they're not paired together tomorrow, but when he sent this in, if it's Rory Bryson, who is the crowd behind? Who's the crowd behind tomorrow if those two are the top of the leaderboard?
Starting point is 00:05:23 Not a wild question. Yeah. So my initial impulse is I think vocally what will come through the TV is Bryson, but I got to think there are more people at Pinehurst and probably around the world pulling for Rory. It's a true Rorsch test. But I think Bryson draws some loud knuckleheads. I mean, guys, that was just fantastic golf. Fantastic. There's a knucklehead behind him right there. Exactly. KVV had an eye on him here on 16.
Starting point is 00:05:53 He's the content king. He had a four shot lead, threw it right back with a double to get a little interest back in there. And then that shot in the 17 was the one that just was like, dude, what are you doing here, man? Like that was not the U.S. Open shot, but hits a wedge from that just was like, dude, what are you doing here, man? Like that was not the US Open shot, but it's a wedge from like, I don't know, 2000 yards away. What was what was 17 measuring day 180 hits a wedge I know is irons have are
Starting point is 00:06:14 you know, are different, whatever it's a wedge in name only, but barely lands it like a yard over the bunker rolls out to 11 feet eight inches and he pours in the pot like it was just it was theater man three shot lead I'm surprised he's only minus 110 to as when we started the show to win tomorrow because uh he certainly looks like he's about to win the us open the shot into 13 from the native was was i just started laughing i mean like that that was one of the best rounds of golf I've ever seen, even including 16. Just how the iron play was unbelievable. The putting has improved so drastically.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Him leaning the putt in and then Neil keeps calling him not a ventriloquist, but just like one of those silent actors who just over dramatizesizes everything and gets so emotive. Like everything is just turned up to a thousand. And yeah, it was I don't know, it was pretty jarring to watch like even like the drive on the drive on 16 was just outrageous around the corner there. You know, you saw you mentioned the one after the physio session, but even you know, some of the ones on the front nine, he just he just played great golf today. You gotta you gotta take your hat off to him. It's a it's a it was a big time performance and the bounce back on 17 was truly, truly something like a couple good bounce backs
Starting point is 00:07:43 because because Ludwig birdied the hole after he tripled as well. He birdied 14. But yeah, just great play. I just hope they get the stopwatches out tomorrow. Well, we can get to that. I promise. Can I just say watching the whole scene on the T box on 13th, Holly, you mentioned it. He was one to hit driver for a little, thought he could maybe get an angle to get up over the tree and get close to the green. I mean, it's crazy for a competitor to, I mean, one, just think that, right?
Starting point is 00:08:19 But two, the interactions with the crowd and he recognizes, you know, they want him to go for it. He's like, don't boo me. I'm going to pick this up. And then he like fake goes back to like, honestly, that was that was awesome entertainment. Like that's good shit. I texted the other biggest Phil Mickelson fan. I know Jim Hartzell or tweeted at him. I was like, Bryson's going to be the new Phil. He is stepping into those shoes. He's an entertainer out on the golf course. And for him to do it back nine in the lead at a US open on a Saturday afternoon is incredible. I really, I loved seeing that. So kudos to Bryson. I thought that was a wonderful moment. He said after in his things, like I'm focused on being present in the moment, present like that. That to me suggests maximum presence of just bantering back and forth with the fans and being comfortable in your own skin. Whoever's working with Bryson on his PR, kind of like Julie Ellion, the, you know, psych, the
Starting point is 00:09:28 Julie Ellion, the sports psychologist that was working with Max and others. She was kind of the flavor of the month, Q1 into Q2. Whoever's working with Bryson on his PR is a miracle worker because this is a different human being. Well, he keeps teetering. He has press conference afterwards and it was like three, four years ago that press conference, he keeps like walking up to the edge and and three or four years ago, he would have taken it over the edge into something just with caked in such bullshit. And it's like the the family guy
Starting point is 00:09:53 meme was like, Oh, oh, is he about to do it? Oh, he does it because he in the press afterwards. He was like, I think back to three years ago, the landscape has changed. I tried to show everyone who I was I didn't do it the right way. And like the old version of him would have just gone off on some tangent there, but he stopped it right there to reflect on, yeah, whatever I was doing was not resonating with people.
Starting point is 00:10:13 It was kind of like who I was, I was being myself, but I just was not presenting myself in the right way. And he seems to be, without being overly brand conscious and whitewashing everything, he seems to be more aware of a better way to present himself. I'm pretty swept up in it, dude. We have a history with him. He's made some, he's done some things towards us
Starting point is 00:10:36 that have not been the most professional, if you will. We've tried to bite our tongue on a lot of that stuff. And I'm willing to look the other way on that right now right now, because it's just that entertaining. And it's that impressive to watch. I'm so much more impressed with this golf on this golf course, three shot lead at Pinehurst than anything he did at Wingfoot. I mean, Wingfoot left me with such a bad taste in my mouth, but from a setup standpoint, the direction of the game, and like the reasons that he won that. And this is like, no, dude, this is a different golfer, a different test. He's passing the test. And I think he's going to win going away tomorrow. I still think there's a lot of bullshit. Totally. But he's not like giving it to us.
Starting point is 00:11:14 It's getting harder to tell. You know, there might be bullshit. It's almost like he's gotten either he's putting on an act or he's gotten harder or like better at hiding the downside of who he truly is because because part of it felt like he was trying to show up old trying to show Up all of his colleagues and tell everybody how smart he was and all of that So it sounds like you're you're turning into a Crusher's fan. I Might have to be man. I might have to be ball. How the girls house my guy
Starting point is 00:11:43 Yeah, that's that's I might have to be I. I might have to be. Charles Howe the third. Charles Howe's my guy. Yeah. That's, that's, uh, I might have to be. I was trying to become a smash fan. Brooks just makes it pretty tough to be a smash fan, but, uh, listen, and again, none of his, his past sins are forgiven. I mean, in terms of what he's done to the golf world, but he's contributed to, and, uh, you know, he sued the PGA tour and he said he was suing them out of spikes. They didn't give him his pit money. Like we haven't forgotten about all that. Still hate everything that Liv has done to the personal golf world. But like,
Starting point is 00:12:07 fucking clown, but he's entertaining as hell. Entertaining, man. It's so good. And it's so impressive. And I can't wait to watch tomorrow. I like the guy. I'm taking the opposite tact. I've got no problems with them. Randy, I'm just like clean with Bryson. I've heard so many like first person anecdotes of all of the truly horrendous shit that he's done to people.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I know, but you hear that stuff about literally every single person. No, not the power everywhere. No, no, everywhere. You can always find people that have a beef. Not like this. Not like this, Randy. No, no, but that doesn't matter to me. I somebody that just watches and buying higher. And I just care less. I'm not like this. Not like with Bryce and Kevin Van Volkerberg has been at the United States Open all week long and now he joins the show. Hello, Kev. How are you buddy?
Starting point is 00:13:06 Boys, I'm doing great. What a fun day. Sweated a little bit, but absolutely enjoyed my face off today. We enjoyed seeing your face on the television as well on the 16th hole just lingering and loitering behind Bryce in there on 16. But I mean tell us a little bit about the scene out there. I mean how much of Bryce did you get to watch today? And kind of what was the the vibe and everything came through on television? I think we have a pretty good idea what you're gonna say. But I'm just curious what you felt actually being there in person.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I walked all 18 with Bryson and it was super fun. I think he spoke a little bit about some the press conference but like, you know, five years ago, I could not have imagined the scenario where people were going just ape **** for him, like really rooting him on screaming his name after everything, him, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:52 goading them on. I mean, it was it was fun theater. I thought after seven, eight holes, I was like, alright, I might go in and watch some of the coverage on TV and then he just starts egging on the crowd like after a drive and I thought, man,
Starting point is 00:14:04 that's I gotta stay out for this. This is too good. This is a lot of fun. Is it a pro if you had to decide between the two if Rory and Bryson are dueling tomorrow who does the crowd want to win? I think Bryson and I can't believe that I'm saying that but I really do think that that is the case. I really think that for whatever reason the general public has decided they're all in on Bryson and he has leaned into that. I mean just the simple acknowledgement of like he signed an autograph in the middle of the round. I don't know if that was on TV, but like every single opportunity God he was bumping fists with kids. He was throwing balls into the stands. He was you know just whooping it up. It was it was really interesting which honestly made what happened right after the round kind of even more fascinating.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Which was Bryson's agent Brett Falkoff and Damon Hack got into a big shouting match right behind 18 Green as Bryson was wrapping up and the gist of it was essentially you've been talking a lot of shit. Damon interviewed, Damon interviewed Bryson walking off 18 Green. And the gist of it which we get all over here as all the media were sort of gathered there. This is not like a private conversation. This was the two of them being very heated and it's continued into the parking lot saying,
Starting point is 00:15:13 you know, you guys have talked a lot of shit about Bryson and you think now you can get whatever you want. I want to give him the option to decline the opportunity. Bryson was not involved in any of this. I think Bryson, to be honest, would have just been like, hey, Damon, like happy to sort of chat with you. But Bryson's team did not appreciate that Damon was the person to sort of get up there. They had a, this continued into the parking lot.
Starting point is 00:15:34 It was got quite heated. It was really kind of interesting. I think Damon was very respectful, very, you know, pushing back. I think Brad, Brett was mostly pretty respectful trying to get his point of view across which is like you guys don't deserve to have him as an interview if you're going to sort of have **** on him for several years
Starting point is 00:15:50 and Damon's point was like I am not like the entire golf channel. Like I don't represent the views of everyone. I've been pretty fair to him and I the point was like he that didn't matter. You know, Eamon's been very hard on Bryson and he sits next to Eamon at the desk and we were all kind of like, Whoa, this is really, this is some tea here. And I, you know, Bryson was not involved in any of this. So I don't think like, it's not something that like he should have to answer for, but it is clear that his team around him is very protective of him and is willing to sort
Starting point is 00:16:21 of, I don't know if settle scores is the right word, but basically say like, if you have been talking some shit, then your bills are coming due in the sense of he's, he's the best man in the game and you're not gonna get any time with him, you're not gonna get what you want with him. Falkov's also Lexi Thompson's agent. That is correct.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I think to your point, TC, maybe he's not getting the PR lessons. Imagine that, imagine. He's not getting them from Falkov, that's for sure. If you wanna set everything back, everything we just talked about leading up into this of like all the goodwill of Bryson's got back to have walked off and been like,
Starting point is 00:16:51 no, you're mean to me about Liv, I'm not doing an interview with them. They would have gone right back to square one immediately for Bryson, which would have been really, really unfortunate. That's good, kudos to Bryson for staying up there and I guess taking questions while you're leading the US Open.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I mean, what a very reasonable request that is. It's kind of ridiculous. But I mean, look, Bryson's honestly been super gracious and super willing to answer me. You know, I think you guys read as I was getting on. I heard you talking about how his is him saying like I was I didn't do the right things three years ago. I wish you know, I'm not going to say it was a mistake because nothing in life is a mistake. You learn from your, your lessons
Starting point is 00:17:25 from yourself, but I could have done it differently. And I didn't show people the, the true me and I think I'm a better person now and learning from all this stuff. So you know, a lot of self help positive kind of thinking and I asked him a question, the presser just basically like, has it ever surprised you that nobody else seems to want to use your equipment if all this stuff is super revelatory? And he was like, you know, I'm always here if they want to, like, has ever surprised you that nobody else seems to want to use your equipment if all this stuff is super revelatory. And he was like, you know, I'm always here if they want to,
Starting point is 00:17:47 like, it's not up to me to sort of influence them anymore, which I thought was interesting, because it used to be like, these irons are going to change the game. These are the ones that the moment that golf changed, you know, he was famously wrote on the wall at ping. I think, you know, he seems happier more at peace. He seems to love the role that he's playing I think Kyle Porter and I were talking about and Kyle was like maybe his nickname should be the big
Starting point is 00:18:09 thespian like he just loves the sort of antics and loves the theater that sort of seems to give him energy he's pounding if this is a live shot right now yeah it is a live look and he's pounding range balls uh right now with uh he's got the cheesy quad out and he's just hammering balls I mean you do you do have to give him a ton of credit in terms of like we've talked about this for 10 years now or however long he's been in, in our golf in our in our golf lives of like the paths he's gone down have led him to this like, you know, we have the single length iron and the
Starting point is 00:18:37 plane of the swing and the 1030. Take it to here and all this Epson salt and all this stuff that like, you know, some of it worked and some didn't and he's had to adjust things. Driver sucks and you know, trying out long, he's using something called a crank driver. He's got 3D printed irons that have a curved face to them and it just seems to have like,
Starting point is 00:18:56 he's led himself down a path to it being like, this is like primo golf, this is premium golf. This is as good of a test as I think any of us have seen and I'm up by three at the US Open and Scotty Scheffler is nowhere to be seen. And I'm the dude right now. It's like you just have to tip your cap to that. There's a there's a fine line between madness and greatness, right? Yeah. He didn't ever ever seem to lose his cool, you know, even when the double like he comes back and birdies he he did not hit his irons really very well at the beginning of the day. There were stretches when he was like on fire, but you know, in the middle of the round, he was below average in strokes, strokes gained and then he threw some darts in there,
Starting point is 00:19:32 but he just kind of kept coming and he was sort of relentless. I missed the part where he was getting treatment in the in the woods. I wish I had had a more of a first person report on that. I didn't realize that was going on. I thought maybe it's just like in the bathroom But he was he was swinging. It's so frickin hard at the ball on some of those drives I mean just couldn't believe where some of them were like on eight the drive on eight was ridiculous to have Whatever gap wedge I think into that ball was just absurd
Starting point is 00:19:59 Uh, what about Ludwig? Uh, we haven't we haven't really gone through his round Uh, just yeah, but you must have seen a lot of him up close today You know, he made a birdie on the third hole, but then came back. It looked like it was him early. He had a couple shot lead. He turned around and made a bogey on the fourth hole, and then he would, you know, he was playing very good golf, made a bogey on nine, put it in the left bunker. That was a tough shot, but made a decent, actually made a decent bogey after missing the green with his bunker shot. Hidden an incredible seven wood into ten, if you did real quick. the first two greens like he hits them. Bryson misses both greens and gets up and down and uh that third you know hit it
Starting point is 00:20:28 over. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there.
Starting point is 00:20:40 I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was right there. I was solid iron play solid. He hit some really good the first two greens like he had some Bryson misses both greens and gets up and down and that third, you know, hit it over I was right there in the where the grandstands gets to IO relief sorry TC he took a proper drop, you know, was looking at proper
Starting point is 00:20:55 lap there I was appreciative of that and hit hit a decent shot that was a hard hard shot. He couldn't really flirt with that pin made a great putt I thought man like he is coming. And then it just sort of like slowly was kind of leaking. It was hard to you know Bryson is a little slow and they had to kind of wait on a few times. I think that might have undid him. I love how fast he plays man. It is so great to just watch him. So you all know practice
Starting point is 00:21:18 swings just an absolute missile that that is aspirational pace of play. Tc it was it was killing me earlier like when they got put on the clock or worn, they didn't get put on the clock, but like triples take time, right? Like that's the thing, but that's that you know, they're they're in that position because Bryson's one of the slower players out there in the first. Yeah, they they definitely fell behind like they and it was not really other than the first. Yeah, they they definitely fell behind
Starting point is 00:21:46 like they and it was not really other than the triple. It was were they behind before the triple like we're how like they were starting to fall behind. They were kind of I mean, you know, it's not like Cantley and right. You're going
Starting point is 00:21:58 to be like speedsters but it was it was just sort of taking a little bit too much time. I think and then when they got to, I think it was on 15 that they got put on the clock. I mean, they were not ready to hit when those guys were off the green. Like, so they had sort of fallen out of the precision group,
Starting point is 00:22:15 which I believe as you've taught me, Solly is actually at what means to be a pace play problems. Yes. And yeah, they weren't actually put on the clock. They clarify, they were just, they were the clock they clarify they were just they were warned Because I think they got into 16 t in time They were still on 16 green the the hole wasn't cleared when they got to 16 t I don't think which I think I've been loved it would have been Like hey put us on the clock, please. Oh, like happily right like that's the thing
Starting point is 00:22:40 I think they should pre put them on the clock tomorrow Craig Winters bad day between Like that's the thing. I think they should pre put him on the clock tomorrow Craig winners bad day between The blow pig getting getting to get out of jail free card on his little thing The rule change that's not even that bad. He came in and said the rule change This is your old rule. It's a behavioral rule. Come on. I did not know that early Bryson's drive look like on 18 when it like ricocheted off the we couldn't see it. Rick and shit.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Rick and shit. You could see. So it was like the green monster over there. Like you from from the back of the tee. It was like it hit a double off the green monster. You could see the the bang off of the green tenting there. The ball got very lucky to end up where it did because if that you know, obviously the TIO is there. But if it if it wasn't there, that
Starting point is 00:23:27 ball is going way way way left into nowhereville and uh you know, it just happened to kick right and end up in a pretty good life. People get in all over any comment on that. Any comment on that. Yeah. What about the TIO or about on a ball going left that may have gone farther left uh that hit you know, got relief from a grandstand. So what? So Bryson's benefited from it twice this week. Ludwig benefited from it once. I've said they should change the rule, but like, Sully, you're all about applying the rule consistently,
Starting point is 00:23:56 regardless of who is getting it. So I'm fine that Ludwig got it just like Rom got it at the US Open it. So I'm fine that Ludwig got it just like Rom got it at the US Open at Torrey Pines, right? It's it is it is what it is. All right. And it's I fucking hate it. You guys know, I hate it more than anybody. But like, you think I like, oh, you know what, everybody else is getting this relief. But you know what Ludwig, he is, he is how can Wyndham do it on that hole and you get all pissy and call it a disgrace and Ludwig doesn't look well of course you should take it guys.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I didn't say it was a disgrace I just said there's a TIO apocalypse or Armageddon waiting on this hole today and sure enough there was. I hated seeing Luddy take advantage of it though. KVV let me ask you from being on the ground. How did the course play today versus your expectations? I think it kind of met my expectations. I thought it was very fair. I thought that it wasn't, you know, there was no something that I never felt like it was across the line. The mistakes that people made seemed to be more like their own doing. I don't remember a single time where I was like,
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Starting point is 00:25:53 a great purse, great player accommodations, and they've done a lot of support of our LPGA content and are supporting a lot of support in the women's game as well. So I want to give them a shout out as well. For more information, you go to MizuhoAmericas.com. That's MizuhoAmericas.com. Truly, truly thanks for all you do for the game. Going into tomorrow, Kev, three shot lead. Do you have any gut feel just from what you've seen in person on what's going to happen tomorrow? I think Ryzen's going to win. I don't. I think it would be really fun if Rory was in that final group
Starting point is 00:26:27 missing out on that with the late bogey there is a real killer for I think his chances. It would be a lot more fun. I think a lot more. I mean the same thing happened. LACC doesn't end up in the final group. Can't sort of stare down the leader and I just think Bryson's just playing too good. I mean he honestly you know he didn't hit his irons that great. They missed a couple of fairways with irons and off the tee. It just seems like the price implies a little bit better with the approach. It's he's going to be really, really hard to beat tomorrow. But Roy should look at this like I got nothing to lose.
Starting point is 00:27:00 I mean, he hit it great today. It's absolute darts. We're standing right there at 14 when he hit it to about Two feet and Johnson and I that was that was pretty fun But the crowd isn't gonna be with him, you know, it is it's really I don't know that they will I think they're gonna be going for Bryce and I want to leave you sorry with one take I don't know if you're gonna like it but man here in the USA chance today I couldn't help but think like maybe price should have been on friggin Ryder Cup team It certainly would have been better than Sam Burns wouldn't even probably would have been on the friggin Ryder Cup team. It certainly would have been better than Sam Burns.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Wouldn't even probably would have been better than speed and JT. You know, I just look the way that he played today. You're talking about truly one of the best players in the game. I get it. Yeah, you see the PJ Tour. Yeah, the guys don't like
Starting point is 00:27:39 you. Did you like losing over there in Paris? Because I bet that maybe like, you know, putting him together with Scotty instead of Sam Burns would probably played a little better over there in Paris because I bet that maybe like you know putting him together with with Scotty instead of Sam Burns would probably played a little better over there on that course. That's all it's all kind of 2020 in hindsight but that here in the USA chance sure made me think like this was and he's not going to be in the Olympics. He's not even like
Starting point is 00:27:59 eligible for the Olympics and and Brando thought that the time to have that was not the time to bring it up on his 16 green didn't bring it up to Rico brought it up but Brandon Yeah, why does that bother you so much? I thought it was like he I thought it was like exactly right. Like if we're gonna talk about the OWG or then like that's the context to Rico was trying to shoehorn turcos my guy but he was trying to shoehorn Olympic stuff into this. NBC as and yeah, Brandon just he squashed that right then and there. I had no problem with that.
Starting point is 00:28:28 No, but I thought Brandon kept going on and on about it about, you know, they haven't acceded to OWGR stuff and all this stuff. And it's like, let's not have that conversation while Bryson's making a double on one of the most important holes of the golf tournament here. And, and, and Kev, I'm going to go to you next randy but just to follow up on that kevin maybe this is part of the huge fall maybe it is but like i prom i don't know if i i can't promise you like 10 out of 12 11 out 12 12 out of 12 guys like ask them like hey even knowing all this would you want bryce on that team perfect fuck no man like that's you know what though like maybe jt and jordan were two of those guys who didn't want him on team exactly i think exactly he could have easily taken their spot because they didn't play pretty particularly well I just think
Starting point is 00:29:08 it's it's hard to justify now especially with Brooks if you're gonna say I know Liv guys like once you cross that line of saying Brooks could be on this team I don't know it's it's tough he wasn't playing quite like this right so that's I think a fair thing to say is like this version of Bryson maybe isn't what we were looking at back in September or whatever, but man, he should be at Bethpage. If you want to make sure that if they go in there and say, hey, we got a home field advantage, we don't need some of these guys that we don't get along with, we're going to stick with what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:29:40 And Tiger's captain says, I don't think I really want Bryson in the squad. Good luck, man, because I think Europe might win. This version of Bryson directly on the team. Like, no, without a doubt. You showed this level of play. Rainey, I think you were going to say something out of the break. I think I cut you off and got distracted.
Starting point is 00:29:56 No, I didn't. Oh, sorry. I thought you wanted to talk golf course. He's just digesting my Bryson tapes. No, no. That's what I'm saying with the Olympics. He's just Bryson's a ton of fun to watch and he's never done anything to me personally. I, I, I don't care. Like we can dig into some of these guys backgrounds. It truly, I'm not going to let him bother me if we're not going to let all these other guys bother me. That's kind of where I net out.
Starting point is 00:30:36 We also were I net out there though, is like, there's a difference between guys making mistakes or guys doing bad stuff in their personal lives and guys treating people like shit week to week, day to day in their everyday dealings. I mean, Bryson went out of his way to throw the the Bridgestone people under the bus or the you know, the Puma guys under the like people like people that are that are actively trying to help him and are, quote unquote, on his team, people that are on his team now to. He almost got suspended twice for misconduct for for. Yeah. That's interesting. No doubt. Yeah. Contributes to not being liked though. Has he done mean
Starting point is 00:31:17 stuff? But everybody does. Like this is where I'm like dude everybody has pissed people off and we just don't hear about it. Not this scale. Not like there's a difference in pissing people like Tigers like Tigers treated a lot of people like shit and allegedly is like one of the worst tippers on the planet but he's not like like you know treating people like shit when he goes to the golf course every day in the locker room or do it you know like mentor maybe the fact that no one would sort of take him under their wing and be like, this is the way that you ought to sort of be a professional was limiting to him in that sense. I mean, I think we need to have room for people to like grow and have some grace for them to kind of get to be different people. his dad passing away, like he does seem like he's matured and grown and all that against all odds because he's surrounded by some pretty shitty people I think on his management team too. But like, I you know, I just in but going back to the
Starting point is 00:32:14 Olympics thing to like, all that to say Randy, like the reason like Torey co was talking about him being like, a Olympic golf does like it doesn't mean shit, right? It's an entertainment product. Why wouldn't you want Bryson? And like, Brando's basically arguing that Bryson shouldn't be on the US Olympic team. And it's like, it's, it's unserious to begin with.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Why shouldn't he be on? Because you set up these, these asinine arbitrary qualification metrics? Yeah, I agree with that. He was just giving context to why he's not in the conversation. I like, I think that was it. It also dawned on me today of like, just how much if Bryson is going to be this big of a needle
Starting point is 00:32:51 mover, be that big of a crowd favorite there in person, maybe outdrawing Rory in terms of fan support for how big of a failure live is that 148,000 people watch the final round of live Houston, despite have like having Despite having this big of a needle mover on it, that was a jarring thing today as well. It was like, dude, people just truly don't care about this Live thing, get them back together. They care about the people and they care to watch them in the same places. That's it. Well, the take I think that's interesting is, is Bryson four times a year, the perfect amount of price. Exactly. That's absolutely, he makes you long for it. He's going to be fun to see him deal with the
Starting point is 00:33:25 elements of the open championship. And then like you get to see him again, the Masters. You're like, man, this guy, what an exciting thing. I haven't seen this guy in eight months. Totally. He's brought out more
Starting point is 00:33:34 passion here. Yeah, he's brought out more passion here than so many other guys. More fun than the 15 millionth Rory debate that we've had over the last year. I'm glad he's back. Like I'm I said it at the Masters,
Starting point is 00:33:45 I'm like, I think Bryson's back and I think we're all better for it, right? That doesn't mean I have to like him or ask all the stuff that he wanted to say. I'm not saying you have to like him. It's fun when he's polarizing. It's fun when you can hate him, TC. It's all you can be like, he's still a dick.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Randy and I can be like, eh, it's fun. Look, I was there this time he almost attacked a fan at the BMW. Like that was interesting. I've loved Phil for 30 years and people used to tell me how big of a cheese dick and how awful he was and that and that. I'm like, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:34:13 He's interesting. He's endlessly entertaining. And honestly, Bryson's approaching that. And I think that's wonderful for the game of golf. That's what I'm saying, Randy. I'm on the same side as you of this. I just don't want to whitewash like, hey, let's not make it out like he's this great saintly figure because he's not either.
Starting point is 00:34:32 But I also don't care. Right. Moving on, moving on to Rory. Uh, but, but, but hold on. Sorry. If we're going to kill Bryson for some of this, like he's done this. And then I feel like it's a little unfair not to kill other guys. If we, you know, batter and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I mean, we get a lot of stuff. TC we, we don't, I mean, it just, I feel like we, we say some stuff about certain guys and don't about certain guys. Sometimes. I think that's fair. And I think that's, it's fun to at least have that debate. Like, are we fair? Are we being fair?
Starting point is 00:35:05 We can choose who we want to like and not like, but we probably owe fairness to the I don't think there's anybody else that's even remotely approaching the levels of what we've got with Bryson that like, let's move on. I'm not finding that okay, we're moving on. We're moving on. I looking at Rory's R's day, he drove it fantastic, led the field in driving, 17th approach, 26th around the green, 30th putting, fourth overall in stroke,
Starting point is 00:35:31 he had the fourth best round of the day. That feels better, that sounds better than it felt. I was a touch disappointed with the way Rory finished his round, his poor approaches in 15, 16, 17. I don't know what I feel right now, but with Rory doesn't fit into any narrative right now. It wasn't incredible. And here we go, Rory. And it wasn't bad, like typical, you know, weekend Rory at a major right now. I'd be surprised if he hunted Bryson down
Starting point is 00:35:58 right now. But I'm, I also got to say, I'm impressed that Rory's sitting here at T two through 54 holes because he was not a guy I was screaming about leading into this week. I would agree. I think he's been hitting it great. You can, it feels like, I know there's some exceptions obviously over the course of, you know, 54 holes that we've seen, but he's hitting a lot of really good shots and he's driving the absolute fuck out of it. And so it's going to give him a chance. Like he's not going to be, just, I think a non-factor tomorrow. There'll be a moment in the round tomorrow
Starting point is 00:36:29 where he has a chance to make a birdie here, make a birdie here, you know, make an eagle at some point. And is he going to grasp that? Like the Rory of old used to do that. Like we'll talk about miss it in a shot into Valhalla, you know, and he makes that eagle like he might need a little bit of luck like that to sort of make this a contest. It would be really fun if they were in the final group,
Starting point is 00:36:49 but he'll be able to see him, you know, one group ahead and kind of understand what's going on. It could be great theater. I mean, it's, this is so much more fun than LACC in the terms of the crowd interaction and stuff. It just, it feels like an energy is in the air. And I, you know, maybe it should piss Rory off. Like hopefully that he's, you know, not being cheered for for the first time in probably a long time that he can remember
Starting point is 00:37:12 that he's not gonna be the crowd favorite. I mean, they'll, he'll have some support, but I think that it's gonna be very pro-Bryson tomorrow. And that could be really working his favor. And he's got to play with no hat pat. Does that could also work in his favor and he's got to play with no hat. Pat does that could also work in his favor and show
Starting point is 00:37:30 the show. Joe Joe the show macaba. Do you do you guys think Rory? I'm a little scared. I feel like Rory's best strategy and I take this from an eight handicapper but I feel like Rory's best serve tomorrow just going out and making a ton of pars and and seeing if Bryson kind of cracks and comes back to him a little bit.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Because if I'm Roy, I'm not, I'm not worried about Pavan. I'm really not worried about Cantlay. I'm too clear of Hideki and Ludwig at two under. I just don't want Rory. I feel like it would be a bad strategy for Rory to go pin hunting early and make some bogeys and all of a sudden Bryson could have a four or five shot lead at the turn. I really feel like Rory's got to show some patience tomorrow. It feels like when Bryson goes pin hunting that it's like, it feels like that's what he should be doing. And when Rory does it, it just is like, dude, that didn't feel right.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Even if he stuffs it like that did not feel right. He had a bunch of really shaky approaches coming down the stretch today. 17 pissed me off. It's like yeah, dude You're not you can't hit it there. You know, you can't hit it there That's such a tough birdie to try to make you got to stay disciplined There's still 18 holes to go in the US open anything can happen You cannot do that and it he got away with it on 13 He spun it off the green on 13 and it he made par and it could have got a lot worse But just that still it's still that shot that I'm like, I did not think he was gonna pull that off on 13
Starting point is 00:38:52 I thought that ball was come back to his feet no matter what he was gonna do there and that Maybe it changes tomorrow. Maybe it all changes. But again, there's a reason why there's been 36 straight of these where it hasn't worked out I think Rory. Yeah, I mean Rory had like three, three bogies on par threes today. Yeah. Oh, he'd six, bogie 15, bogie 17. That, that to me, you know, that that's, that's troubling, I think. But also I struggled at like, I don't know if Rory has multiple speeds, right? It's either like Rory's trying to play conservative golf or Rory's trying to pin his ears back and just go get it.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I don't know if he can switch gears within the round like that as well as other guys. I think if Rory wins this thing, he's going to have to just go out and play with a band in tomorrow and not play recklessly, but play green light golf for the most part. One thing that putting together that lengthy thing of last 10 year majors made me kind of understand fully and he said this at some point, is that it's not really physical with me it is mental. And I think that it helps him that the narrative tomorrow is not like, can Rory do this? It's like, Hey, was Bryson about to win a second US Open? I don't think there's a
Starting point is 00:40:03 lot of talk tonight about like, man, Rory's gonna has another chance. It's just like, yeah, whatever, like, he's there and he, you know, has to do something special to win. But that that to me should allow him to play sort of fearless, get him get him pissed off. And let's have a contest that you know, let at least, at least make Bryson earn it tomorrow. I think Rory should go back and like, watch a replay of St. Andrews when he lost to Cam. I think back to certain shots, middle of that round, and then even into the 14th hole, the par 5. Rory hitting into that bank and Cam hitting the shot that it required at that moment.
Starting point is 00:40:41 I think for Rory, it's absolutely mental and making the right decisions more than it is executing the shots. I want to it's a very different test than final round of the old course, right? That was pin your ears back and like go get some birdies and like, I don't know if I want the Rory coming out and doing that tomorrow, right? I think I'm not saying pin your ears back, but I'm saying I felt like at the old course he was playing not to lose or he was playing to years back, but I'm saying I felt like at the old course he was playing not to lose or he was playing to like, Kim, Kim went and got it and, and played fearless golf. And I think, yeah, I don't know, there's just something there with Rory that
Starting point is 00:41:13 it like, like, he just seems stuck in the middle of two, two different, you know, approaches. And Tiger kind of mislead him like gave him the game plan or whatever about like hit middle of greens,, get part already the power fives. You'll be fine. You know when you catch it or is that what you got Joe Skoffrin face in the background like Smith going nuts.
Starting point is 00:41:32 But oh shit, I didn't know about that. I didn't have anybody in my air that would do that. That's 12 shots ahead. Don't you think it's ridiculous that the USGA owning this championship? Can we just put Rory and Bryson together? I cannot believe the golf governing bodies haven't
Starting point is 00:41:52 created a rule where hey, we're going to make the final pairings. It it makes no sense to me of just like, well, he was first in. Randy, what do you want me to do? He was first in. He's gotta go last out. That makes total sense, right? Or you just go by like, hey, world rank goes later in the tournament. Crooked OWGR? Yeah. US Open titles, if you got a US Open title, you go out later.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Anything. You can have your tiebreakers, but- Fuck, draw it out of a hat, Bruce. I'm worried to be there in that four under group and not be playing in the final group when, like, why? Why? this is an Own goal that we've all created it used to do it the Masters So and I've uncovered that in our deep dives like they would just mix things up
Starting point is 00:42:31 However, they wanted they would send Arnold Palmer out last when he was in 50th place They would send him out after the leaders own your own your event I'd love a hundred push a shotgun like Kymar and Fitzgerald outlast for like a US Open, you know, alumni group here, winners group. Kymor and Fitzgerald? Like what? Matt, excuse me, Matt Fitzpatrick. Sorry. I thought you were talking about Larry Fitzgerald. That's like,
Starting point is 00:42:55 that'd be saying Larry Fitzgerald was playing. Honestly, they should send somebody out last tomorrow just to keep the pressure on. Keep the pace. Yeah. Yeah. I do think it's a good thing for Rory that he's not in the final group, but we'll see. We'll see. Kev Yeah. I do think it's a good thing for Rory that he's not in the final group but we'll see. We'll see. Kev, anything else before we send you on your way? Uh no, just super fun day. I mean, it's really
Starting point is 00:43:11 cool to uh a lot of a lot of people uh teasing me saying that they had shouted at Max to set your fantasy lineup. Do not tease Max about this terrible fantasy place. Getting better. Uh I don't think it's doesn't need to be harassed and that's a lot of block party talk out today. A lot of people letting me know that they're coming to the block party. So. I don't think it doesn't need to be harassed. And that's a lot of block party talk today. A lot of people letting me know that they're coming to the block party. So I don't know. I'm not I'm not in on that bit. You guys are gonna have to work that out. Second, I guess they're allowed
Starting point is 00:43:33 in or not block parties. I think we covered that one last night. But thank you for that wonderful story and for joining us as well. Kev will look forward to reading and watching tomorrow as well. Cheers. Quick shout out to our friends at Travelers. You can witness insurmountable deficits turned into unforgettable victories at the Travelers Championship. The Northeast one and only PGA TOUR signature event. Scotty Scheffler, Roy McElroy, Victor Hovland, Patrick Cantlay and Keegan Bradley and other PGA TOUR stars will be there all four days of competition thanks to the signature event model.
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Starting point is 00:44:26 DJ Pye here. Thank you to everyone who came through today. Had a great time, great weather. Good to see some familiar faces. What a day of golf. Would struggle to think of a better US Open round than what we just saw from Bryson. Just psychotic lines that he's taking at pins right now.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I don't know how you make a double bogey and then you come up on 17 and you just aim directly at that flag, step up and make a birdie. It's insane, insane, insane, like transcendental stuff going on from him. Couple questions for the boys. I'm sure everybody's gonna waffle
Starting point is 00:45:01 and they're gonna say like, oh, Rory's definitely not out of it, but he's definitely not gonna win. So I'll make the case against Bryson. We're going to need a case of the lefts. You know, Cody mentioned this on Thursday, I think like when Bryson gets squirrely, it's when the driver goes left, you know, and that's where a lot of the trouble is on Pinehurst. So I'm this left a couple of times today, by and large,
Starting point is 00:45:20 he's in total control of his golf ball, but we could see that pop up tomorrow. So three shot lead out there, you know, easy for that to disappear. Here's what I want to know from those guys. If let's say Rory doesn't do it tomorrow, what's going to be the undoing? Get specific, please. What's going to let him down? What's going to fail him? Don't just be like, oh, he sucks.
Starting point is 00:45:39 He sucks. He can't do it. He can't win these. Oh, class growing up. Get specific. What's going to let Rory down tomorrow if he's not going to win? And if you do think he's going to win, what all of class growing up. Get specific, what's gonna let Rory down tomorrow if he's not gonna win, and if you do think he's gonna win, what's gonna be the key to victory?
Starting point is 00:45:48 Guys, thanks for taking my question. Couple more burgers, couple more people coming through. So many people coming through. Still plenty of room, if anybody needs anything, you know, obviously looks a little dicey tomorrow. I think we're gonna maybe clear some fish out of the walk-in. We've got a couple things we might be putting on special tomorrow to get ready for for Trune.
Starting point is 00:46:09 But, you know, still a lot of good times to be had. So thank you, everybody who's come through and I'll look forward to the rest of the show. Terrible impression. I got three three observations there. That grill wasn't on. The burgers were unseasoned. And if the the grill was on close the damn lid and let the let the burgers cook my man Kind of party they're running over here Dej There's been no waffling or pointing out of what the problem has been with Rory
Starting point is 00:46:37 It's the short irons wedges like the precision on those required shots It's going after pins like he did on the second hole at Oak Hill when he was in contention. What he did on 13 today, what he did on 15, 16 and 17 today. That's what's going to be the undoing. That was the undoing from him being maybe a shot behind Bryson going into tomorrow and that's probably going to be what does it tomorrow. That's the specific thing. If it doesn't go good for Rory tomorrow, that's what it'll be. That's what I think is going to happen. That video of DJ, that reminded me of Zuck. He probably had a team of 20, 20, 20 of his analysts out there just, you know, helping him create this grilling scene. But, uh, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:18 really wasn't, wasn't actually grilling. So he did have a good point about Bryson with the left miss. I thought Brando today said these greens don't like draws. Well, Bryson hits like exclusively draws almost. So he seems to be doing all right with the draws here. Maybe that makes it even more impressive that it's like a course fit for him. I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with them, but Bryson is doing it right. Like I, I wouldn't trust anyone else except for his descent angle into these greens to be able to hold withdrawals. I got still a fair point.
Starting point is 00:47:51 But I do think, you know, a couple of big left misses tomorrow and we're, I mean, one big left miss and we're really looking at a different championship come, you know, come fifth or sixth hole. So I guess I don't fear the left miss as much as I do just an iron going into a totally bone place, right? He had some tough misses off the tee today and was able to recover. And I don't know, I guess I don't fear that left miss more than I do something like Rory or what.
Starting point is 00:48:17 I don't know. I said Bryce, I did not have Bryson as my pick leading into it, but Thursday night I picked, I said he's going to win Friday night. I drafted him in our thing last night. It was after we've seen him play one round and Scotty being out of it, I was like, I think Bryson is my pick leading into it, but Thursday night I said he's going to win Friday night. I drafted him in our thing last night. It was after seeing him play one round and Scotty being out of it, I was like, I think Bryson is going to win. I'm still on that pick. Yeah, I, so I'm worried about Rory feeling like he's got to go hang a 66 or 67, which, which he might have to do. But I, I don't like Rory's chances to do that.
Starting point is 00:48:44 I think his undoing will be overaggressiveness and just making too many bogeys. You know, Bryson is the only guy to put three rounds in the sixties together. I feel comfortable saying like if Bryson plays well, you're not gonna catch him. So I really do feel like, this goes against like the no laying up ethos,
Starting point is 00:49:04 but I really, if I was in that four under group, can't lay Pavon Rory, like if I could get in the house with a 69 even 70, like let me see where it shakes out because Bryson, it can get squirrely for Bryson. I don't totally trust some of his short game if he's hitting little chips and sand shots and and all of that stuff. So I don't think Rory's going to win but I I would like to see him play a patient game tomorrow is minus two too far back. I think so. I think so. I I I'm I'm not waffling off, but Bryson's still doing it, but I would say minus who's not too far back.
Starting point is 00:49:48 I would not. I think Ludwig can still win. Well, I just want the course to be really hard. We're like, maybe we don't have anybody under par tomorrow. I don't think we're gonna get there, but we had what, seven or eight scores in the 60s today. I don't know. You're not buying, buying her still. No, I'm not. I'm buying it. So I truly believe this is like,
Starting point is 00:50:14 they have threaded the needle that you've always asked for between fair and difficult. And I recognize that. And I'm not going to fight you on that. I just was hoping for a bit more unfairness and I will be un to fight you on that. I I just was hoping for a bit more unfairness and and I will be unapologetic about that. Um I listen, I think this is all on Bryce and if he plays halfway decent, I I think he's going to
Starting point is 00:50:37 win just because he's driving the **** out of it and he's putting it well. So, I don't know. II don't think Rory gets it done to answer DJ's question. Thank you. Great question torn ligaments in both his left and his right hip, but yet he's still out on the range just random balls I'm gonna ask you about Ludwig here shortly TC I know we want to talk about him, but random question just thought of this if you take the 2005
Starting point is 00:50:59 field and Equipment and all of those guys and drop them in with their 2005 equipment and that whole field and drop them into this week. What do you think the scores look like? Like over par. Yeah, definitely, right? Which I think is kind of my point of like, I think this is really freaking hard, like really, really, really, really freaking hard. And I'm seeing so many of these balls raining on some of these shots are like, dude, it's an unrealistic ask of where where you need to land this on like 15 green to hold this green six green, it's unrealistic of me. And I don't care, I'm going
Starting point is 00:51:36 to send you back down the hill, and you better try to get up and down. And I've just I'm amazed that this dude Bryson seven under par, like it's so these guys, they never cease to amaze me. This happens all the time. I said the score was gonna be under five and a half under par, but it's just remarkable, the talent and the technology and all they have going for them.
Starting point is 00:51:55 I wish the fairways were more brown. I think that's my biggest beef. I wish the fairways were like dead, like 2014. Yeah. TC, how are you feeling about your guy Ludwig? It was a tough moment there on 13 Was that the time to push your chips in and go for that up and down? What do you think happened there? I mean, that's the exact moment like not like I i'm sad I said this on thursday, but I felt it at the time and I still feel it like It's the reason I didn't pick him was because this feels like the kind of course where you need experience, discipline, patience, and a little bit of that scar tissue
Starting point is 00:52:30 to remind you not to do certain things. It just seemed like that spot on 13, he got a little over aggressive with the chip. You saw it on the second chip from almost that same spot where he goes farther left. I'm sure he and Scobie talked about it on the second chip from almost that same spot where he goes farther left. I'm sure he and Scobie talked about it at the time and everything, but his chipping has radically improved over the last 12 to 18 months. I think overall, he just didn't have his A game today at all. I don't even think he had his B game. And I would point to the the like, laced a drive on four after the birdie on three, the egregious birdie on three, and
Starting point is 00:53:12 laces a drive on four and then just hits a really strange just kind of chunks one two days in a row, same hole. Yeah, jumped it. Yeah. And then are, you know, doesn't get birdie on five, steadies himself a little bit, six, seven, eight. And you're like, you're thinking, all right, this is good. And then, you know, and then nine, misses short in the bunker over there on the left. And then it's that shot on 10. And it's like, all right, like we can build on that. And it just, 13 just felt, I mean, looking at his stats, like he, Saturdays, he struggled a little bit as far as, you know, just career wise, he's backed up on Saturdays. He had an issue with that last year as well. Today, he was 27th, Strokes gained off the
Starting point is 00:53:59 tee, sixth, Strokes gained approach, which I'm sure a lot of that is probably coming down to that 10th hole there. 71st in strokes gained short game. A lot of that's just the 13th hole debacle and 24th in putting. And for the week, I mean, he's playing great golf for the week. He's fourth off the T seventh approach. He's fourth in putting. And he's, he's, you know, he's lost a shot to the field strokes gain short game, but he's playing exceptionally good golf. I just think he needs a little bit more seasoning on a course like this. That's, you know, that's the bottom line.
Starting point is 00:54:33 So, so going to 13, sorry, do you think that was a decision air or like just an execution air? Cause it looked like he didn't quite hit the chip. Like that, that chip landed pretty far. It almost seemed like an execution error a little bit. I also wonder how much playing with both sending and trying to like, keep up with the pace. Bryson was setting played into that as well. I think the biggest thing was just him,
Starting point is 00:54:56 him hitting foreign off that T and missing the fairway by 20 yards to the left, you know, on and on the wrong side of the fairway too. Like that's, that's where it's just like, that's the stuff you really don't see from him very often. He's just out of sorts. And then, yeah, and then I think Randy was probably, you know, it's definitely a decision error because I just don't think you take on that risk. Like you're bringing triple into play. Just, just try to make a 12 or 15 footer and get the hell out of there with par And if you don't you drop one shot, so I think at its heart It was a decision error that you know, then he didn't execute on it. But yeah
Starting point is 00:55:34 Yeah, it's it's it's weird a weird class that Ludvig's got himself in I was trying to think of like a comp for him in another sport and I came up with He's like he's like Yamamoto like he's like a comp for him in another sport. And I came up with he's like a he's like a Yamamoto like he's like a pitcher for a Japanese pitcher that's like a season pro that's we're just now seeing in the major leagues But like he you know the first time going through a lot of these lineups first time going through a lot of these events But like is clearly a step above a rookie and I know he's not technically a rookie But it's just like a premium player, but is seeing all this for the first time. It's just a weird, we don't see that a lot in golf, right? And we're going to talk about him and nitpick his day
Starting point is 00:56:10 to day. We're not going to spend a lot of time talking about Xander's round today. We're not going to spend time talking about Scottie's round. Like, guys that have already played themselves out of it don't get the, the, the, the compliment, I guess, of getting nitpicked on your performance on a Saturday night. But the question for him is not gonna be, I was saying this last night, like his floor is so high, like his game is so good, it's so good off the tee, it's gonna be hard for him not to be involved in these tournaments. I know PGA missed a cup, but he was coming off an injury. And, like, he's runner-up at the Masters. He's gonna be in a lot of these. Now the only question, the question's not gonna be whether he gets himself into contention. The only question is going to be like, do you got what it takes to win win some of these? He's got a ton of time to answer that. But he's quickly lofting himself into that conversation. I'm like, Okay, dude, now it's time, when are we going to see the
Starting point is 00:56:54 next, the next gear of that benefit of the doubt goes beyond your first year playing majors? That's the disclaimer there. But it's amazing how fast he's launched himself into that conversation. But it's like, you know, I was not, we had the opportunity to bet on him last night. It was a great game to play of how much dollars you want to spend on him. And I did not want him for over 50% of my budget with 36 holes to play. Yeah. I think there's something there. I mean, again, like you said, this is his third major.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Yeah. Right. And we're not forgetting that. We're not forgetting that, this is his third major. Yeah. Right. And we're not forgetting that we're not forgetting that stuck his nose and I thought you were going to make an age joke with Yamamoto or there because he's 25. I would never see. I mean, really, otherwise, when you look at his board, there's a ton of experience, right? Can't lay Matsuyama, Hatten, Rory, Bryson, you know, Pavan is kind of the, the, the, the other exception there. Um, Colin, I mean, Colin shot 66 today.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Uh, Tom Kim got to give him credit. He was evened it like, you know, shot 71 even par for the tournament T9. But I just think overall, like Ludwig's raw ceiling is covering up for the lack of experience and for some decisionaires along the way. I think he's also a very quick learner and I think he likes the moment too. So I think seeing that bounce back birdie on 14, then he bogeyed 15, but seeing that bounce back birdie on 14 was like, all right, you know what? He's not melting away.
Starting point is 00:58:24 He's right back at it. And I think, you know, judging by the way that he won his two tournaments last year, judging by the way that he played down the stretch at Augusta, outside of 11, I, you know, I just feel like he wants the ball in the big moment, and he just needs a little bit bigger sample size. And if we get to the end of next year and he hasn't won one of these things yet, I'll be shocked. All right. I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:58:51 I, my only contribution was to say he absolutely looks like he belongs in contention when golf is at its biggest events and the best places. And that's total eye test, but it's also the biggest compliment I can pay him. Like he just looks like he belongs there, his body language, he seems unfazed and that's, I think that's massive. I just know he shot 73.
Starting point is 00:59:19 I actually am really impressed. Like he shot 73 with his C game today in a tough US Open setting. And I think he's gonna rise to the occasion tomorrow and stick his nose right back in it. And I think the 13th hole today will be one of the most valuable experience of his entire career.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Like he's gonna internalize all of that and use it to get better. It's also worth zooming in like that that shot that hole especially the approach shot and then the pitch shot from down there are like there's such do or die shots right I mean he got exposed to get three shot penalty for all that is such a harsh punishment the punishment is just outsized for the size of the miss which I'm fine with it's awesome like that's what this tournament is but like that was just bad luck to have a shot be slightly off a couple times in a row him and and big tone but
Starting point is 01:00:09 it's a good track for love the facts. Yeah. Yeah. But how but yeah, I mean, I guess but Hovland I think I think Ludwig is a little bit more polished than Hovland. Yeah. If that makes sense. He's just a little bit more in control. And yeah, he's just more of a, you know, cool customer. I think Hovland's Hovland runs, you know, just his swing just feels a lot more kind of speed, speed really, whereas like Ludwig never feels out of control. It's robotic. Yeah, you know, and I
Starting point is 01:00:39 pushed back a little bit on fax and saying like him, him hitting that chip on 13 was was a sign of not enough confidence in his short game. I think it was a sign of like overconfidence. Yeah. Right where I think if you're not confident in your short game, you're playing out to the left 10 times out of 10 or you're putting it like big time. We'll get to big tone here. That was the highlight. Oh my God. All right. We got to talk about that. We'll get to Big Tony in a second. That was the highlight. That was the highlight.
Starting point is 01:01:06 It was fun. Let's get to our, our Fandel picks of the day or Saturday night. We love to do this on Saturday nights. Look at the Fandel odds and which of course subject to change and you know, make a play as of this point. What, Randy, I'm gonna throw to you first.
Starting point is 01:01:20 What's, you're sitting here Saturday night. What's, what's your play for tomorrow? What do you think is gonna happen? Yeah, I, not the sexiest play. TC will like this one, but Tommy Fleetwood to finish top 20. You can currently get that at plus 260 or at the time I sent that to Cody. So as always, the odds are subject to change. But listen, you take out the 75 in round two.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Tommy's, you can almost pencil in him for a 68, 69, 70. And I just feel like that's going to rise up into the top 20 tomorrow. I am sticking with what I said Thursday night. I'm surprised it's not more of a price to pay here for Bryson to go ahead and win. It's only minus 110 right now. It's essentially Bryson versus the field right now. And it would take a shockingly bad day for him tomorrow. I'd be stunned if he got run down. I would not, I wouldn't be stunned if he went,
Starting point is 01:02:13 you know, and blew up and shot 76 tomorrow. Like that might happen. That happens at US Open all the time. I'd be stunned if he got run down. And so I think it's Bryson and I think he's, it might be like six, like wing foot. It might be kind of easy. So are you going, hold on. Can I ask, are you all just saying this as like a reverse?
Starting point is 01:02:33 Like I really hope Rory wins. So I'm going to downplay it because I'm shocked. I mean, I want Rory to win, right? I'm just, I'm just going, it's an eye test thing, right? He come on. I'm trusting. I'm trusting my eyes right now. I mean, Roy, she's 68 Bryson's shoot 72. Come on.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Oh, that could happen. I know. I would be surprised. That's not what I'm betting on. Jerry, see what they do with this setup tomorrow. A lot of that was aggressive today. Yeah, I know. I don't know what, like, I'm not sure what else they have in their, in their chamber. Yeah. You got to pick for tomorrow TC Yeah, I got two for you and they're both kind of like you do. Of course I have one of course you got to well one of them is kind of piggybacking off of Randy I've got I've got big or I've got Tommy top 10 instead of top 20 20 20 to 1 I
Starting point is 01:03:22 Didn't want to get that greedy TC or trendy and I, you know, dead heat rules and all that shit. But I think he could track this thing down. I've been a little bit shocked at just how little some of these guys like you, you post a good round and you're not really moving up the board. I think that changes tomorrow. I think looking at that 18th green when they were finishing up today, things pretty baked out. There's not a lot of life in these greens anymore, which is good to see. I think that really starts to go downhill tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:03:55 The other one I liked is Big Tone, top five. That's a vintage Big T plays currently plus 280 for top five. And, you know, he's he's sitting at T seven right now with, you know, he's three shots out of T two. So tell me, I truly don't know what your big tone stances as of right now. I don't either. I think I need some clarification just as a friend of yours. I'm getting shit talked about big tone I'm like I truly am confused by this I get confused by a lot of your guys bits But this one truly has me perplexed. I think big tone I did feel like alright, this is a course fit for him. Like I think he's gonna play well around here But then also just knowing that like the guy is incapable
Starting point is 01:04:46 And then also just knowing that like the guy is incapable of stepping up in like the biggest moments and it always happens like early on that back nine where and I'm like, all right, you know what, there's no, there's no water at Pinehurst for him to just chunk one into or for him to hit an egregiously bad shot into but 13 popped up today and you want to talk about decision error. What the fuck was that? popped up today and you want to talk about decision error. What the fuck was that? That was sick. That was so fast. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:12 And you want to talk about a lack of confidence in your short game. Like that's the lack of confidence in your short game. That pin was awesome. Why did you play that big? I was like play that big flop shop. Imagine you got a big wall in front of you, like a big break. Rock the back.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Right, doesn't he have that shot? What are we doing? God damn it, Randy. So I tried to talk myself into big tone, like for like the last three days, and I'm just, you know, and I'm like, yeah, like when the chips are down, I still don't believe in it though.
Starting point is 01:05:43 It was so bizarre, because the whole thing is that he doesn't close these things. I was getting taunting messages in Slack today from TC halfway through a Saturday round about being out closing this out. I was like, what the hell guys, like trying to will it into existence. You don't understand how many more painful close calls we need to go through before he's got to get one of these. Cause it's years and years and years. Uh, I don't think it's going to happen before Randy actually
Starting point is 01:06:07 grows out his mutton chops, which he still owes from a bet about three years. So legitimately I can't grow it someday. I will someday, someday solid someday. I will. Uh, I hope big toed, you know, again, he, he shot two over a day and love big shot three over those. The only guys in the top, uh, 10 that shot or top eight that shot over par today. And it's all,
Starting point is 01:06:25 all thanks to one pin and one hole. Uh, but it was it looks like that mid cap challenge commercial with him and Annika where they take away the middle of your bag and he has to use bunker tweeting about that today. It legitimately looks like that. If you'd have putted it on the bunker, that would have been suspicious of the mid cap challenge. What do you think they do on 13 tomorrow? Do you think they move the tees up?
Starting point is 01:06:57 Garrett Morrison was on Twitter saying, like lobbying against it, just saying, hey, it's such a good, I mean, it's probably my favorite hole in the course. It's such a good, you know, mid length, like that awkward 350 yard par four. Do you think they move it up? Or do you think they let it ride? Honestly, weirdly enough, this course, I like three moving up today didn't do a whole lot for me. You know, it didn't, it didn't invite a lot of decision making almost everyone was say except for big tone, because he didn't have his whole lot for me. It didn't invite a lot of decision making. Almost everyone would say except for Big Tone because he didn't have his middle clubs. He was the only one
Starting point is 01:07:29 that I saw that didn't send it. But the challenge of all the approach shots is so interesting as it is that I don't know if that really adds a whole lot of intrigue because it's so hard to hold the greens with a long, a three wood or a driver that it doesn't, it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. But I'm saying now that doesn't make sense. It makes sense. Just send it up there and figure it out from there. Because you might roll off the green with your second shot. Anyways, you might as well get it up there. But no, I think 13 is playing awesome.
Starting point is 01:07:56 I'll say one that I think they should, they should move up a little bit tomorrow is five. I think they make five into like a four and a half or temp guys but but but make the pin fucking diabolical. Well, TC today, the scoring average on number five was 4.5 00. So I think I think it was a par four and a half today. What was the scoring average yesterday on five? Yesterday on five, it was almost five. So do that, you know, move it up. But then the eyeball cup with that pin back.
Starting point is 01:08:31 That pin was tough today. I mean, it was there's not an easy pin on five. I think john Hogan called it a cock up. That was sick. He called it the wrong hole and called it a cock up, which was that was so special. It was the wrong hole. He thought it was 14. It was back. Because I kept watching from 14 thinking like, Oh my god, this is gonna be good. I didn't realize he had screwed up the night. Oh my god, that
Starting point is 01:08:56 explains so much because I'm like, what is the big deal here? Cody saying they do have the option to move up seven as well, which I think seven, I think that would that would be a really interesting shot. Especially if you want to play a big, big kind of swooping cut around there, try to avoid that little bunker there. Not to rehash everything, Randy on course setup, but how far
Starting point is 01:09:18 back would you have to go to find like a better us open setup for you for what you want? Like how far back would you have to go? like a better US Open setup for you for what you want. Like how far back would you have to go? I think the Shinny and Oakmont opens are my gold standard. Okay. Like 04? Yeah, I mean 04. Even last time, like if we're not getting a couple like clown moments, what the big rig called clown golf, then I think it's a failure for the week. I wanna see guys broken. I wanna see Mickelson hitting that putt
Starting point is 01:09:47 while the ball's moving. I just, I wanna see some Clown Golf. Like that's what I'm dying to see. For those that were touting the Valhalla leaderboard as an endorsement of the course, I just wanna say the data golf rankings for everyone in the top 10 go 11, 137 with Corey Pavon, three, 15, 10, five, 16, 24, four, 13, and 40.
Starting point is 01:10:16 So basically that's five, six, seven guys in the top 10, inside the top 16 in the world that are in the top 10 of this tournament right now. We have not talked, Randy, you did not, you drafted a ton of guys, a ton of guys last night and refused to take Pavon who shot one under par today. He's gonna be in the final pair with Bryce, we haven't talked about him yet. He might win the US Open tomorrow for all we know. I still can't believe it.
Starting point is 01:10:41 We can't have a French guy winning the United States Open. I mean, if Pavon's not shooting the Jason Gore, Ratif Goosen, like 80, 81 tomorrow, I simply don't know what we're doing. He's got to be the guy that goes out and shoots 79, which I think is going to be tough on Bryson too. I think that's an interesting subplot. That's very interesting. I had not thought of that. And then if Bryson's playing slow and this guy's playing bad, that would be a lot of people. A lot of people are still mad as hell about Pavon mashing his lies down the rough out at Torrey on his way to victory out there. A lot of people are you mad TC?
Starting point is 01:11:18 No, I honestly, I didn't even watch that. We were in Australia, I think. I just remember, I tweeted that today and I got 15 different replies of like yeah, but there's no rough out there to mash down TC Uh, I I thought soly do we need to talk about hideki at all? Does he have it? I mean right there at five under I don't think he's got a great chance, but Hideki, when he could shoot a 67 tomorrow The guy hits the shit out of his irons. I think I think before we get there, we have to talk about Hideki shirt. Was it bad? Was it was it bad? I mean, all bad all week. They've been awful. Like they were
Starting point is 01:11:54 they're playing optical illusions that make it that made them look like a great big fat person for a little bit there. There was a couple spots from like, like, has Hideki put on 30 pounds? It's crazy. I have nothing to add on Hideki. I really, I wish I did, but I don't. It's him and Ludwig tomorrow, right? Yes, yes. T times are out. Matthew Pavan and Bryson are at 221.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Cantlay and Rory are at 210. Ludwig and Hideki, 159. Big Tone and Tyrrell Hatton 148 Corey Connors and Colin Mark Howard 137 Aaron Ryan Tom Kim 126 Sergio and Taylor Pendrith 110 Davis Thompson and Xander and I'm just looking real good. Look at the two AMs paired together. That's a match place. Yeah, I love that. Randy was mad as hell this morning. Messaged this morning said, Clanton just shot 69. What are we doing? We've got an amateur shooting 69. And I said back, Clanton won the north-south at this very venue, Randy, and he's a stud. I think Clinton's a stud. Shipley's great, too.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Between Augusta and here, Shipley's had a call. He's pissed away a few shots this week, and he's still right there. He had the penalty today. He had a crazy three- three put yesterday or Thursday. He looks like if Trevor Lawrence and Zach Blair had a love child. I don't think he does TC I don't I don't see that. I'm just not I'm just that I don't see I don't see that. Guys, we talked about can't lay one in the US open tomorrow potentially. He was that was a really impressive round today. Like, that's so
Starting point is 01:13:44 big of you didn't really have it. He was 42. That was a really impressive round today. Like did what's so big of you didn't really have it He was 42nd strokes gained off the tee 50th and strokes gained approach 43rd and strokes gained short game and second Strokes gained putting he was just pouring them in from everywhere. This is is his little scalpel He had the right tool for the job. That was a good, uh, that was a good private message Cody sent, uh, when he got up and down on seven, uh, he said, I did not know he had that in his tool bag. I was like, ah, that was, that was a good one.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Sure. Tweet that one, Cody. That was good. Number one in, in, in putting this week. So, um, I think he could win, right? I'd be very surprised again. I'd be very surprised,. I'd be very surprised. But I mean, shit, if Xander is going to win one, let's just give one to Pat.
Starting point is 01:14:30 And we can all move on with our lives. I mean, can you, Matt, like, I feel like Bryson winning is probably the best thing for golf. Bryson or Rory, and I think the worst thing for golf, even worse than than Pavan winning because you know NBC will find a way to spin it into some Paris Olympics promo is uh is Cantlay and Xander going back to back in majors. If Rory wins tomorrow uh number one in the world won the first major number two in the world won the second major number three in the world uh won the third major
Starting point is 01:15:03 that'd be pretty uh be pretty I don't know I don the world won the third major that'd be pretty uh be pretty i don't know i don't know what that means but that'd be pretty pretty big for getting everybody all together all wants to play golf i think but randy what do you think of collins 66 today uh i didn't watch all of it i caught his last five six holes maybe. Super impressive. Do you guys want to apologize for calling him a dome golfer? I mean, there wasn't much wind out there. But that's number one in putting that's a tough setup. Now you're saying it's tough. I'm hearing it's tough. I'm not it's not unfair. That's my problem. I concede it's difficult. Absolutely concede it's difficult.
Starting point is 01:15:48 I'm impressed with Colin, man. There's a top 10 pick for me before the week. He made a huge climb today. I hope it's all in. I'm all in. Post round, I bought all my stock back. Bought it as high as possible. I don't think you're liquid anymore, bud. I'm gonna call my stock back. Pot it as high as possible. So, I don't think you're liquid anymore, bud. Yeah, take the take the over 72 and a half tomorrow for calling. Thomas Detry, you know, you were shitting on me last night. TC for shitting on him last night. Uh shot 76 today. I said if he, you know, if he balls out,
Starting point is 01:16:19 tomorrow, we'll talk about it. I was shitting on, I was shitting on you. I wasn't even on the pod last night. Just via text. I'm sure you weren't Slack, I lost track of it, but. D3X is the premises, he shot 76. You had a big disappointment today? No, I was impressed with Puj. He was wearing the fireballs stuff,
Starting point is 01:16:43 just like Sergio. the fireballs weren't wearing matching stuff each day and it being like the most hideous horrendous stuff you could ever ever dream up really really like that that might be my moment of joy for the week it's you know otherwise I think as far as big disappointments, Randy, I do pick up what you're saying. There weren't a whole lot of big ass numbers out there. Tim Veeding shot 76, Frankie Sappen 76, Adam Scott 76, but Sam Bennett really lit himself on fire coming down the stretch. He was right in the mix. He was more than in the mix after five holes today and then shot 42 on his back nine with a birdie on 10 too. So 77 for him. I would say that was the biggest kind of ejection today. Don't forget, I mean we not only skipped over Pavan yesterday but SH Kim too. I think he shot 83 today. I was personally disappointed ZB shot 75 but can't say
Starting point is 01:17:55 I'm like shocked. Yeah I was texting with him about it. He was like I was like was it just hard as shit? He was like he's just a little off a couple near misses said, wish you could have had five back and then you know, just about 14 and hit a good shot on 17 and, and it's got no margin of error. So yeah, you know, he's just like, yeah, I'm on a racer's edge. So yeah, yeah, it is stunning to be at this point and not mentioned Scotty at this point in the tournament. I mean, he's 74th maybe dead last
Starting point is 01:18:26 I've checked him close to dead last and putting so far this week third in approach Siren plays been as good as it as it always is and the putters totally let him down driven to like shit He's been all over the place Just look very very frustrated. He's lost five and a half shots on the greens and he is plus six So with neutral putting he'd be around plus one or even which still wouldn't be in a great position to win the tournament but um pretty uncharacteristically for him. What's going on there because watching midday today it doesn't look like he can read putts and it looks very off. I mean it's it's it's kind of like, it's one of those, it feels like I'm not there, obviously, but it feels like when you get to like 13 and a half 14, even for these guys, when it gets so glassy, it can be like it could be such a throw off. Like if you're off, it's just gonna expose you so fast. If you don't have the feel for it, if you don't have the feel for the breaks, if you don't have the feel for how far outside the hole, you need to be playing putts. And he's just felt, you know, it looks like he's reverted back to pre-Mallet days, his lack of comfort on the greens. Right. And that's not an excuse.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Like the whole kind of point of being, you know, in major championships is you got to adapt to conditions that are right in front of you. And that's kind of the big test is, you know, moving these things around and different playing styles. And it's not a formula you can follow. And it's exposed something in him this week. He was not prepared for these greens this week. So yeah, it seems like too, that I don't know. I mean, I've always felt like I'm, I don't consider myself a great putter, but I putt better on fast greens because I have a shorter stroke. Well, Scotty, it's really just seems like he's not a good green reader, but I was wondering why, uh, Ted isn't like, like he just kept looking over at Ted and Ted, Ted wasn't reading it. Scottie reading stuff like why aren't why isn't
Starting point is 01:20:12 Ted reading stuff? He got bitchy pretty quick. It's kind of resorted back into the the winter version of Scottie this week. That's just not that fun to watch. But it can't be like, it can't be like, you can't be bitchy. If you're going to win 50% of the time, the 50% that you don't win, it can't be, if it gets bitchy, that's not going to sit well with people, right? It's not fun to watch. It just doesn't play well in the summer. Right. You won last week. You put this question in earlier in the week, see we haven't gotten to it but now but I've been thinking about all week and I don't have an answer I'm gonna wing it when we get
Starting point is 01:20:49 there. If you had to par any hole at Pinehurst, which would you choose? You have to par it. You have to par it. Tournament T. Tournament T. US Open T. You have to make a par on one hole. So, Solly, I've been grinding on this and I think it's very dependent upon where the pin is to angry because all these holes. So should we do it tomorrow based on setup on Sunday? Or can we do it today based on the setup today?
Starting point is 01:21:16 I would say assume every green has a hard but not impossible pin like not not the 13th hole pin today, right? So not the hardest pin on every hole. Call it like the second most realistic hard pin on every hole. Yeah. So the option like five is the shortest part five low scoring average for these guys, but the most wicked green on the entire course and some truly death spots anywhere around that green if you lay up your your probably gonna spin it off the front or go over the back.
Starting point is 01:21:48 So many things can go wrong. 10 is over 600 yards and around a corner of trees. I was looking at 10. There's so many speed bumps to get you into trouble there, especially with how we hit it of like those hazards, those cross hazards on the second shot are going to crush you. I think it's three because listen, you can make seven on three very easily, but it's probably the hole if I play every hole 100 times, I'm probably making par there the
Starting point is 01:22:15 most. Four iron, two iron into the fairway, wedge to the center of the green and two putt it is my best chance to make a par. I was down to three and seven as well. I felt like seven I can hit one hard up that left side. Get something at the middle of the green. A lot of people are saying one in the comments. One green is skinny. I don't want anything to do with one green, especially as
Starting point is 01:22:41 a it just distance control wise there. It's like such an inviting fairway though. I was thinking one myself. Basically you're, you are trying to just hit one. You are trying to just cut it down to like having one good shot, right? So I wouldn't choose 17 because even you can hit a good shot in a 17 and have it have it you know spy drone number he wants number six 17 is interesting 17 is you know eight iron something like that but it's a great question usually there's like one hole it's like oh yeah give me that one I could easily make more on that one but I think I agree with
Starting point is 01:23:20 30 solid just cuz you're gonna have a wedge in your hand. You're going to have like it's it's an easy tee shot. It's and you just got to hit a really good first putt too. Yeah. You got to hit a smart shot with with the wedge or the short iron and then you got to hit it the right the right putt. Now it's all dependent upon where the pin is to it though because you could easily miss it three or four footer on that green. all depending upon where the pin is to it though. Because you could easily miss the three or four footer on that green. Anything else you guys want before we wrap anything previewing tomorrow? I just want to say sorry.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Homeless Hub T20 after finishing T26, but was up there in the PGA championship, like by far his best back to back major performances. Good. Good on him. Randy hasn't missed a cut yet on He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team.
Starting point is 01:24:21 He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. He's got a great team. Top 20 parlay was one of my was my twisted mind play this week and let me down Do we need any more hamster damn we need to fit in real quick. I want to shout out Foxy It's all you're gonna be furious to me with this Foxy made his seventh cut in a row at a major Seven in a row. What are we doing TC shot 76 today? What are we? What are we doing here? What are we what is this segment for? He's a proper player. It's for it's for shouting out random shit that we wanted to shout out I didn't even get to go on the leaderboard today. So we would see any any scuttle from Jack's about Cam Smith
Starting point is 01:24:55 What's is he just? Investor in a golf course. Yeah, this should have been a great, great setup. He just has a lot going on in his life. I think they brought in Jim Furek to redesign the golf course, which is really, that concerns me more than his Pinehurst performance this week. I don't know. I don't know what's going on with Cam.
Starting point is 01:25:17 All right. You know, I'm not sure what's going on with Ripper GC, just generally speaking. So gonna have to, you know, gonna have to see what's going on with Ripper GC just generally speaking. So gonna have to You know gonna have to see that we can unpack that offline Any other hamster damn bits you want to get in? Yeah, that's yeah, that's the thing. We're missing here Yeah, I mean just bad shit They came out the press release mid-round like 12 or 13 today, right? It's the wrong date on it. If it was 2023,
Starting point is 01:25:46 said at 2024 bragging about how, how big their ratings were from Friday. And I just, I don't think I've ever seen a group of, of people so happy to pat themselves on the back for pitiful, pitiful performances. I think I was I was in on the whole four wide thing I'm out on that now it's cluttered. It's kind of clumsy. It's kind of cluttered. Nobody can get a, you know, a word in you got obviously the whole the whole technology debacle today. As we understand it, they've put all their resources towards towards us open major coverage, and Obviously, the whole technology debacle today, as we understand it, they've put all their resources towards US Open, major coverage.
Starting point is 01:26:32 Just give it up, guys. You're not interested. Just give it up. It's just felt they're abusing the hell out of playing through. It's bad. I mean, cutting to it without warning at random times. Fina was mid-meltdown in the middle of the tournament. And then his third shot around the green,
Starting point is 01:26:53 they cut to playing through for it. I was like, oh my God. Cutting away after Bryson's ball rolling away on 16, that was so tough. And they're never shy about showing stuff on tape. So just wait on Cantlay's putt a little bit longer and stick with Bryson's thing. They, uh, the peacock app is so bad, although they had sky on peacock today. That was what I was going to say, which was, which was appreciated.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Was that an accident? I don't know. I don't know. I was, I was watching that until they brought in Faldo. And then I was like, I'll go back to the regular coverage. Then they, they just, they seem incapable of like, like people that were watching on Peacock yesterday, their stream ended and they had to go to a different stream on Peacock when the coverage went to Peacock. That was so rude. Um, there's just it's just such a half assed, sloppy,
Starting point is 01:27:46 unprofessional organization. I know morale is terrible. Like I know there's a bunch of probably associate producers and grunt level people that are there working their tails off underpaid have moved from Orlando to Stanford or wherever the hell they are up there. And so I feel bad for you all, because you have the most pitiful leadership in all of sports and all of media. And it's a shame. And if I have to watch another Law and Order themed Paris Olympics commercial with the dramatic voice and the Olympic trials, promos and all that, Take it all away. It's it's pitiful.
Starting point is 01:28:29 And one more. I'll direct this at the USGA. We don't need the USGA commercials, right? I mean, you can cut back on those. There's a lot. There's still a lot. It's a lot of I don't know, a lot of commercials. Hope we get a commercial. I have not heard a tease for getting a commercial free hour tomorrow, but feels like we could be good for a very good back nine tomorrow. but we'll see. They'll probably do the commercial free hour at the wrong time. Like it was, there was four guys on the golf course late today and they're missing shot. They dropped, they dropped Ludwig from coverage on 16. That was tough. They did not show his teach on 16 with, yeah, there's like six guys out there. It's crazy. Um, I'm just I'm like, I'm at wit's end with it, guys. It's so bad.
Starting point is 01:29:11 All right, Cody, I'm already broken. T.C. I've been broken for a while. I think you guys touched it all. I hate to see my guy Luke Combs. I'm a big Luke Combs fan, but way too much Luke combs could have hired somebody else in there outside of the the summer of golf on peacock guy to just overseeing the same things over and over and over but Guys excellent show We've come to this point. You need to pick somebody who's it going to be tomorrow? Same guys thursday night same guys friday night saturday night night Bryson big who do you got? I Guess the smart money Bryson. That's really boring
Starting point is 01:29:55 Guys I'm gonna go off the board here. Don't do it. I hate to do this. I hate it. Don't do it on He's gonna say Pat. He's gonna say can't lay no hat Pat. I knew it. I fucking knew it. I hate it. Don't do it. He's gonna say Pat. He's gonna say Cantley. No hat Pat. I knew it. I fucking knew it. I knew it. Nobody picked her. Cody, what's your pick? Of course. Come on. Gotta write for it. Rory. Gotta have hope there boys. Just the way the way Cantley stuck around there. I thought he was gonna sneak into that last group for a few moments there. The way that he's he's stuck around there and lingered really left a a bad taste in my mouth that I think he's gonna linger again tomorrow. Can I change mine?
Starting point is 01:30:39 I'm gonna I'm gonna switch off of Bryson. That's no fun. I'll I'll take I'll I'll take, uh, I'll take one of the guys at minus two. So Luddy or a deck, you gotta pick one of them. I know. I just don't know which one of them is going to shoot the 67. I'll, I'll take Hedeki. Okay. Can't wait to see the shirts more. That'd be sweet. The deck comes out and wins. Yeah. The definitive answer from Randy on the question, can Hedeki win? That's gonna wrap. I think everybody gets a taster tomorrow. Yeah, sorry, sorry.
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