No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 857 - Sunday U.S. Open Live Show

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

Bryson DeChambeau wins the 2024 U.S. Open at Pinehurst. We discuss the day that was for Bryson, and wasn't for Rory McIlroy coming down the stretch. One of the best final rounds of a Major Championship at a course that stood it's ground. KVV pops in for an on the ground update as TC and Neil come through to lay down their thoughts on an action packed day on No. 2. If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining The Nest: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at nolayingup.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club. Be the right club today. Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most anything different Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the sund Night United States Open Championship recap show. I think I'm still coming out of a state of shock. I don't know whether to be very excited to talk tonight. I don't know whether to cry. I don't know whether to scream. I don't know whether to dance. I don't know whether to crawl up in a ball. I don't know whether to jump in my car and speed off down the street and leave the premises

But Sally here for the high noon Sunday recap Randy is here. Hello. Mr. Big Guys that felt like a u.s. Open coming down the stretch. Hell yeah. I'm pumped up. That was sweet DJ pie is here. Hello DJ. Sorry. Thanks for having me on your program What a day truly can't wait to talk about it TC is here. Hello DJ. Soly, thanks for having me on your program. What a day. Truly can't wait to talk about it. TC is here. Hello, Mr. TC. Hello, and I'm so glad to see DJ. Really cool of him to face the media after what transpired today at the block party. Yeah, of course. I'll just get ahead of that real quick.

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I don't know where to start. I think I blacked out for like the last two, three hours. Truly, truly. I want to start, I think straight up, I think that Bryson shot might be the best shot I've seen on TV. Like that bunker shot on 18. 55 yards. 55 yards, left in the perfect spot, left himself a putt he just like literally couldn't miss. That's so fucking hard. And just, I was aghast at how good of a golf shot that was. So just

before we say anything, just absolutely took it on and around the 18th green there. And I think if I can start, I am, we talked a ton about Bryson last night and about how we were excited to see this version of him and a ton of context there. So if I'm bummed out about anything, it has nothing to do with Bryson winning.

I have like no problem with that. It was such a thrill, like it was such a wild, it was just like the worst possible way to finish it, right? Like the worst way it could have happened. If you'd have just stuffed it, if you'd have stuffed it twice and beat Rory down the stretch, I'd be here, right here, be like screaming how incredible theater that was. I just wanted to see a playoff. I wanted a playoff so badly that would have been fucking- Make the US Open! Short Miss miss putts great shots drama like Short that is unrecoverable from this is a collapse and a choke

Unlike anything I can recall definitely unlike anything that we've ever covered right I mean the the one I always go back to is Dustin Johnson at Chambers Bay that three putt from 15 feet to you know You know first putt to win, he missed the comebacker, which would have put him in a playoff with Jordan Spieth, felt like one of the greatest chokes I've ever seen. Granted, those greens were broccoli. But to miss two putts-

Cauliflower, cauliflower. He missed a two foot six inch putt on 16 and three feet nine inches on 18. Like, after playing incredible golf, that's the part that is so is so hard to come to terms with right now for just how bad Rory just choked it and then speeds off, doesn't talk to media out of the parking lot. Like the one.

So the first part that he missed. Yes, that was a short one. That was a little gimme. Let's also like an absolute ripper Magoo. Like that was, that was not an easy putt. And he played that outside the hole and still broke across the hole. And Bryson missed a short one right before that, too. Like Bryson was two back with what, four or five to play and play the last

four or five holes and won over par and and wins. Like, that's what it's like to do in golf should be to win a US Open. And we saw that today. I don't know how we have any problems with what we saw out there. I got no problem. It was probably like a little theater.

Oh, it was a credible theater, credible setup, perfect, all that. I'm mad about the result and how it went down, big. Like I can't, I'm rude. Despite all the accusations of not wanting to be at the block party or, you know, being the HOA president calling in about like, I want this to happen. I really, really do. I got extremely emotionally involved today. And for it to

get ripped out like that was just like, holy shit, we might go another I, I'll talk myself into true and by the end of this pod, I think, or we might go a whole nother decade after this one. I mean, that is the worst of all of his close calls and losses. And I'm again, how far back do you have to go before you have like a worse get your heart ripped out by yourself than what Rory just did? That was a slow motion van Nicholson. Yeah. Like, yeah, probably. Adam Scott, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. That was kind of the one, you know, that,

that reminded me just like the slow ghastly kind of like, uh, God, this is not fun. This is not fun. This is not fun. And we lost type of type of thing. TCI didn't mean to talk over here earlier. I was going to say, just don't, uh, don't gloss past the bogey on 15. So I thought you pointed that out expertly. Like your superpower dude is hitting high towering soft iron shots. And why are we hitting this kind of low? You know runner into like the hardest green to hit in America

So maybe there was more to the story there, but it's not like the wind was up It didn't seem like I don't I don't know what could be the explanation for for that But yeah, I get you saw that I empathize with with wanting to see a playoff, but big I'm also kind of with you in that like That us open, man, it feels like we just won a million dollars and I'm not going to complain about, you know, not winning $1.2 million. That was, that's not as good as it gets, man. It didn't feel, listen, didn't feel quite like that all week, but down the back nine, that was the us open.

I always want, I always hope for, we have swings, we have short pusses, we have agony, we have ecstasy, like that was everything. That was literally everything. On top of like, I'm agreeing with that. Like what I'm feeling is a part of that equation as well. Right, like that makes it a US Open. Like we just got, like, it's hard because Bryson is not the villain,

like the full scale villain he's been in the past, right? It's not like, it's, it's hard because Bryson is not the villain, like the full scale villain he's been in the past, right? It's not like, it's it's not what it is. I'm not saying that I'm upset at the result of this. It's just like, dude, that was, I don't know what I'm saying, because I'm, I think, just looking at the week as a whole, I can't help but feel like after all the bullshit that we've had, and a little bit of all the bullshit that we have had and a little bit of after all the bullshit that we have had what a fitting conclusion it would have been if those two a were paired together today and then b would have had a playoff together because it would have been everything that we've

seen in the game of golf for the last four years all this dissension all this all this division channeled into these these two like this two whole playoff between these pillars on either side. I think Monahan and and Waterman would have stood on the 18th green and just like put their put their hands together and said, we're done. We're back together. Like that was fucking epic. Let's all get back together immediately. But I think just just looking at the week as a whole, like from start to finish. I'm just really, really grateful and happy.

And I feel like it was what we were missing for many of the previous majors that we've had over the last few years of just, man, that's what it was all about. Rarely in the modern times have we had the best players going at each other down the stretch in majors. And we had that to a T. I mean, that was as good as it's been in my lifetime and probably will ever be. It was awesome. It's funny how easy it is to trick yourself

into thinking that reality is a movie, right? And it's like, oh man, the heroes and the villains and what if it all fell just exactly this way? And it just never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever happens. Right. Looking at the fact that there hasn't been a playoff at the U S open in 16 years now is like, how can that be that just like statistically blows my mind that that could even be the case with 156 players in the field. Like there was no ties in 16 years. That's crazy. First of all.

And you look back at like some of the, you know, Tiger and Phil never dueled, you know, it just, it never quite, quite, quite, quite gets to like a hundred percent. And that was 99.9 9 9 9 9%. And I think Pinehurst has a huge role to play in that huge, huge, huge role. I mean, I know all of you guys on here and probably everybody watching, there's certain majors like we've all circled over the past decade, where it's just like, man, that could be the recipe. We might get to 99.9 at that place and it just a dud.

Something happens, the wind doesn't blow or the wind blows too much and they can't get it fast or it rains or somebody runs and hides or there's just, God, there's just so many factors that have to all kind of gel together at the same time to make a day like we just had so TC. I'm with you I'm very fortunate thankful that it happened and like there's all these other little wrinkles in it that just Are like take it to another level of you know Bryson shot into 13 Rory's like bouncing off the grandstands hitting off a guy on a rascal scooter at one point. Just so many little elements. Those big moments feel like something, but it's all the skill on those little shots, on those little 50-yard pitches and chips and like those guys made some of the hardest up and downs on the planet. Look, like

routine. And shout out to the setup to it was not the one dimensional off the green test. That's the thing about all those shots. It was it was not like you could just do one shot. It may look at on TV like the pioneer slopes are you know, it's crowned and every green is the same. There's a great like chart that's in the in the deuce bar there behind there that has like the six detailed slope, like kinds of slopes that Donald Ross would use around the greens. After I saw that the next time I played Pinehurst 2, I was like, Holy shit, man, there is so much more depth to all of these shots around the greens and the questions it's asked

and the different gully, how a gully might work in relation to this slope. And that all gets flattened out on TV, but that's, if you wondered why we've raved as hard as we have about Pinehurst, it's like all that is what these guys are navigating on a repeat basis. And almost nobody ran the gauntlet for 72 holes, man. And you do, yeah, extreme tip of the cap to Bryson. He did not have it today.

He absolutely did not have it. And he was primed to be beaten and should have been beaten by Rory, but he made the shots when he needed to down the stretch. And I still, I wanna go back and rewatch. Do I wanna go back and rewatch it? I think I do, because there's gonna be a whole bunch of shit

that I wanna rewatch. I think there's so many layers. Yeah. I think the other thing, Sali, I'll say too, just to, you know, the thing that takes it from 99.1 to 99.9 in my head too, is just the fact that it's a public golf course. The fact that you were able to sit in the deuce and see those maps.

And the fact that all of us have played the golf course and have, I've, honestly, I was in that bunker that Bryson was in the first time I played it. I had to get up and down from that spot to shoot, to break 80. And my caddy gave me this, like, he talked me all the way through it. And I hit the same shot. I had to make like a 20 footer. And it was like having that in the back of your head as Bryson's trying to hit the same Shot is like you're never gonna have that at or at least most people are never gonna have that at certainly Augusta LACC oakmarch in a cock like all these other places

So all those places have a great place in the game and I'm happy we go to all of them But like man, I'm glad we're going to Pinehurst a bunch over the next 50 years. Did you make the putt? Yeah I did I did okay sorry I was clear about that I thought it was crazy. I thought Bryson shot the I thought the angle of their what I'm saying is it's not that hard of it up and down actually. I thought it was in the deuce. I thought so too. You had to fly that so far to get it close. This is crazy good. Somebody pointed this out on his live golf homepage or whatever. One of his quick facts at the bottom, shot that he hates the most,

or shot that gives him the most problems, I forget what it was, 60-yard bunker shot. And he just did it with the US Open on the line. He was saying that in the post-round too. He was like, I hate that shot. I think the other thing with, like we're talking about Rory's missed short putts and the reason he had those short putts though, it's cause his chipping was so fucking good.

And I like, I've never seen Rory ever come close to chipping it like that. Can see like every time consistently, it was crazy. And, uh, you know, I think there's plenty of times where you can go back. Yeah. That's what's insane. He still gained 2.2 shots on the greens today while losing, obviously, two strokes on 16 and 18. That's kind of what the US Open does, right? It builds up this scar tissue and this tension and you're hanging on for dear life. And by the end of it, you're like, tension and you're hanging on for dear life. And by the end of it, you're like, I can't speak from experience, but I would imagine you're feeling like you're clenched up and you've got so much tension and pressure in your hands and adrenaline going and all of

that. And every single time you got to bake one of those 10, 12, 14 footers or stand over one of those chips, it's just like, you feel like you're on borrowed time with each one of them. Right. I thought Blake Cohn it in the Friday Architects Roundtable about Pinehurst number two, put that feeling like so perfectly where he's like Pinehurst is not like there's a lot of golf courses that are like boxing matches Where you're just trying to dodge like these massive haymakers He's like Pinehurst is like trying to drive in like a snow, a really bad snowstorm, where you're truly just like gripping the wheel and it's not that hard, like from moment to moment, but it's just, it takes five hours, six hours,

and it just accumulates and builds and builds and like low key man, you kind of, I don't know. Rory would say the same thing, but like bogey in three of the last four is like, that's where it catches up to you. You can get out and run, you can make some birdies, you make some putts, you hit the right spots in the greens. Like you can, you can navigate a couple miles, but man, it's gonna, it's gonna catch up to you eventually. Well, and doing it for four days in a row, knowing that, all right, like the storm's really bad today and it's going to get worse for the next four days. I have to keep driving into the heart of this storm. It's a whiteout.

You guys had to try to get out to Colorado. Well, again, I hope people don't forget and I'm going to try my best not to forget. Rory Stuffing in on nine and making birdie on an extremely difficult hole for second day in a row on that one. Flips over, birdie's 10, comes over, makes another long putt on 12 and then up and down from over 13. 13 was playing pretty easy. That was, you know, but 4 under, 4 birdies and 5 holes, with 5 holes left to play in the US Open. Like Rory was doing it, right? And we've not seen that gear when he gets into a hunt of a major championship, that kind of run. We've not

seen that in 10 years, honestly. And it felt, at that point, it felt different. It really did feel different. And it just felt like all he had to do was hit that 15th green and he was gonna win this thing and it... I'll say this, this setup way different than any of the four majors he won and I think between just a very difficult test and ten years of built-up pressure and anxieties like you never know what it's gonna do and that was golf man. God that was sick. I it just was a show. It just was a show. It was what was your favorite moment of the day big the 18th. Yeah, I mean the 18th hole. All of it. You know what

I'm mad about that putt he didn't hit it to make it he like he started outside the hole but that that was to hit it. Don't give the whole way about the next one. Yeah, I'm not saying ram it just like do that just has to be hit with like make speed he tried to die in a putt from inside four feet to at to almost certainly get into a playoff at the US Open like dude, just put it in the back of the cup. You let it you let that opportunity in it was a very Scott Hoke s kind of situation there. Guys, I can't believe

Big Tone finished one behind Rory. Like Rory played like one of the best rounds I've ever seen him play. It's like Big Tone shot 67 and Sean was one behind him. And Kalei was only one behind him too. the the the the the the the the the finally they had to deal with some adversity. Rory up against that big tough, the wire grass, no idea how the ball is going to come out, was able to navigate the bunker. And then Bryson with

the with the root and the tree, like it just nervy, nervy shots to get into position where they then had to hit great shots. Like the Rory chip was excellent. The Bryson bunker play, like I don't know, man. I don't know how you could ask for a better 70 second hole like that that was what reminded me of of 2006 Wingfoot where it's like you you see Colin Montgomery making a mess and then oh my god what's Phil doing and holy shit Ogilvy did like it just was like everything converging at once I I thought it was excellent and I'm obviously not there but like the proximity of all this happening, like has to have been the most epic US Open to have been at and 23rd. I'm

just gonna keep like, I'm gonna keep with hyperbole of best ever because I'm struggling to come up with like better stuff than we've covered. Yeah, right. He just ethered himself. Fuck this guy. I said what I need to say. But all that happening in all that proximity, like the way 16 fairway approach he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like,

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he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like, design golf course. That shit matters man. Cause that vibe out there looked like it was awesome. I cannot wait to read KVV tonight. Like it's just, it's an epic, epic championship. Rory standing on, waiting to hit that chip and being able to see Bryson drive it in the shit. Right? Like that has to affect like how he hit that putt on, you know, what kind of speed he had with that putt. I would think if Bryson's right in the middle of the fairway, he probably is just jamming that thing in there.

Holy shit. Rory's radar Atlas, Rory's plane left Piners at 7.29 PM. He was in the air when we got on the air tonight. So, all right, so we got a lot of people replying. I said, I didn't love that he left. Like, Vanderveld stayed, Greg Norman stayed, I've gotten on Lexi for not staying. Like, I think, especially for somebody like Rory,

who's always saying, we're entertainers. This is an entertainment product. This is why they pay us a bunch of money. You've willingly made yourself the face of the PGA tour and raised your hand to do that. You want back on the board. You want all this stuff. You stand there, you face the media, and you seek out Bryson too. I think you go shake his hand. It's different when it was Lexi at Olympic Club and she's not wanting to do media. It's another thing when you're in the parking lot and media is right there in full view of you and you're just peeling out of the parking lot. And like, you know what,

maybe we don't learn anything from the interview. Maybe we do though. Maybe he takes us into why he hit the shot out of 15 or that's what you're fucking doing. Oh, that's the whole point. Yeah. But what if he does? Yeah. Right. What if he does? For sure. Like for sure. I think I honestly entered a state of shock when all this happened and when he took off, I was like, oh yeah, of course he took off. And then like 30 minutes later, I was like, whoa, dude, like the point about Vandeveld and Norman and all the people, you know, Mickelson, I'm such an idiot. I can't believe I did that.

These guys answered the questions about their greatest collapses and greatest chokes. And the all like the, no, the Mickelson thing doesn't hold up. I'd say Norman and Vandeveld, the only thing I'd say is like, they at least had an hour plus after, you know, after it was over, over for them to come to terms with it. Like that was very, very fresh for Rory, but still doesn't excuse it, man. It's like, well then take your hour, right? Like, yeah, I agree. No, it's, yeah, it's hard, man. Especially when, listen, Rory's my favorite golfer. He has been for 15 years.

Today is about as tough of a golf tournament as I think I can remember, remember watching. And the reason that you like him is like, because he does that stuff. And like, it just kind of feels like taking a massive L when, uh, when your guy doesn't, doesn't do that. So I have no doubt that this is the most painful one for him. I don't know how he's going to come back from this one. We can talk about that whole conversation. But like,

man, I don't think the media is like totally out to get him either. I don't think anybody's gonna go in and be like, what the fuck were you doing? I think it's like you go talk to the US the USGA media people are can even take you aside from the rest of the media and just like, hey, man, you don't even need to face you don't need to do a press conference or scrum just let us get a couple quotes like, man, just at man, you don't even need to face, you don't need to do a press conference or a scrum, just let us get a couple quotes. Like man, just at least, I don't know, I'm with you.

Like maybe it sounds hollow, but like at least go through the motions. But we were kind of talking about it before he came on, I think truly just like doesn't care. I think he's like, that's fine. Yeah, I know I already done the math on like what you guys are gonna think of me and like that's how pissed I am, I don't care.

No one's gonna hate me more than I hate myself right now. Like, anyway, we never done on the scale of the U S open, but like, I've definitely been in sporting events where you boot the ground ball, that like three runs come in and you've lost your team. And it's just like the most deflating feeling, right? Or like two outs of the night. Yeah. You've tripled, you tripled like the last hole and lose the tournament for your team. Like you, just, it's the night. Yeah, you've triple you triple like the last hole and lose the tournament for your team. Like you just it's the worst I have haunting memories of that feeling. And he had to

just like truly had a lump in his throat of like, I don't know if I can those images of him in the in the we'll get to some of that later. But in the scoring tent, like he had to be in complete shock. Like that was, again, I'm struggling to think of like two shorter putts that were missed to to miss out in the playoff by one. It's stunning. And you should have had a playoff. Yeah.

Yeah. If it was still an 18 hole playoff, I would agree with you. I think the worst thing the USGA among the worst things they've ever done is is get rid of the 18 hole playoff. Truly not a bit. Not a bit. It was it's what differentiated it. Yeah. Listen, every week, every round on the PGA LPGA and around the world, the game's biggest professional and amateur

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some we got to like there's been a lot of work done on reigning in distance after that one. This one was look at paid to hit it long it played, you know, you can argue the case that it was not punishing enough when you hit it offline I I don't think I'd make that handle certainly Randall Randall was rooting for a ball to just get totally boned over that He was not hiding how he felt about prices driving But it still felt to me it I said this early in the week It's like it felt like one of the most

Balanced tests of like dude, you don't want to be over in that shit because anything can happen it puts you behind the eight ball Anything can happen. Maybe bad stuff didn't happen enough But at the same time it your your shot you had remaining from that stuff was still super challenging Very very very difficult to hold the greens get it on the green from there And if you did, you know, we're able to do that It just took an excellent shot to do that, right? And I just felt like from an entertainment and challenge combination perspective, that's the best possible way

you can set up a major championship for not just making it boring, hack it out of rough. Combination of short grass around the greens, incredible contouring on these greens, and not just thick rough off the sides of the fairway. That was 10 out of 10. People asking what we want out of golf, that was it right there. And

the champion, like deserved champion at the end, like it's a different Bryce. I don't think 2020 Bryson is winning the this US Open at Pinehurst. And I just I think we need to acknowledge that. There's always so many courses that have great greens like that they can, they can be a defense like that we're gonna get it next year at Oakmont to same kind of deal, only with rough instead of wire grass there. I do think the wire grass seems to be a little bit more penal. I don't know how you do that, but I know they put

up some more in. Like, Sally, on the preview, we talked about how driving stats can almost get juked a little bit if you get lucky. But then, you know, hey, it's gonna even out through the week. Only once today did Bryson really, you know, have to pitch out sideways. That pitch out sideways. Yeah, but he I feel like he was punished more than people were letting on like he had a bunch of tough shots. Yeah, there was like greens, you know, like

they were, they were variables for sure. But I don't know, I just feel like the game is so out of balance right now with the driver heads and everything like that to where, you know, it's I mean, shit on 18 even it's like, first of all, I want to thank I fucking tears in my eyes. When the USGA did not give him TIO there that was like that would have been the darkest day in golf history if you would have gotten TIOIO there. That would have been the darkest day in golf history if he would have gotten TIO. Wait, a big key to this one?

Absolutely would have given it to him. No, a big key to this one. That granted was not in his way. All right. On the PGA Tour, guys would have said, hey, you know what? I'm going to try and hit a fade in here. I'm trying to bank it off this route off the left. Yeah. And they would have let, I swear to God, Slugger or all the guys now on the tour would have let them have that. But I do think, I feel like there's a decision to be made moving forward about firmness versus speed on the greens, where I would rather them, I feel like they softened them up a little bit today and it yielded a great Sunday. But I think if they, I'd like to see them move towards slowing them down

at some point, if it meant making them firmer. Like if that's the decision point, if that's the inflection point, if that brings more whole locations into play, more slopes into play, make them firm as fuck and just let them grow out a little bit more. And it's almost a different test to it becomes, you know, less of a hold on for dear life with your putter situation. Hey, you got to hit the ball closer with your iron situation. So I don't know, I'd like to short putts tougher, you know, when you start like starting a lot more putts outside the hole. It's yeah, I'm with you.

I think that's I think that's a cogent position. The green monster down the left, though, we got we got to fix that. Is there any out of play? Only thing on that thesis, I I agree, but I don't think it's like you sacrifice firmness if you go faster or if you slow down, you get more firmness, right? I don't think like that's the easy. It's not an easy slider for like, you know, let's get, you know, if? I don't think that's the easy, it's not an easy slider for like,

let's get, if we slow them down, it's gonna make them bounce here. But I feel like they wanted to keep them super, super fast, but they soften them up a little bit today. Whereas, especially for rounds one and two, I'm fine with a little bit slower. I just want them firm. On the wire graph stuff real quick,

I think the, the best thing that can possibly happen with televised golf is like the best gauge, I think, is like how much you care about the next shot immediately. Right? And that's what was so cool was every time anybody missed the fairway today, I leaned closer to the TV because I could not wait to see like what the lie was. And that just like does not happen from week to week. And as soon as you care what the next shot is,

then you care what the next shot is. And then you see that, and then you care what the next shot is. And it just draws the viewer more and more and more into what happens. And listen, sometimes it gets frustrating when they throw a commercial, but oftentimes it's like,

you just have such a better sense of the golf course, the golf tournament, the ebbs and flows, what happened rather than just like, you know, you just have such a better sense of the golf course, the golf tournament, the ebbs and flows, like what happened rather than just like, oh, one or zero, he hit it in the rough or he hit it in the fairway. I would say that in theory is great. It sucks when like NBC doesn't get like set up any shot or give you a single close up of the lie like, like, you know, they've done in the past at other events. It's like what you guys will do. I got to hop off here soon. You guys will do hamster damn without me. But

I mean, that was that was a fucking biblical performance. He's driving to Stanford right now. I gotta I gotta hit the road. I mean, just the like the front nine was borderline unwatchable with the commercial load and the way that they took the commercials with they use the playing through the way that like the four-man booth with they were just they were a mess. Faxon and Brandle wouldn't shut up. Hicks isn't adding much.

Just let Toreco run the show. I mean all it was it was awful. It was awful from NBC, awful. Mahalo. We'll definitely agree with you TC and we'll get to that, I do promise. Anything else you wanna get out before I know you need to exit?

Not really, I mean, I just, I'm trying to think. Bad day for Ludwig, 73.73 on the weekend. Again, he'll learn from it. He didn't have it today. He won so far out of bounds. On two with his third shot, I think it was. It was outrageous. Yeah. Unlucky there. He had the little happy Gilmore.

I think NBC had dropped him by this point. I truly felt like mainstream people were starting to get pissed. Barstool Big Cat was like, yo, what the fuck is this coverage? Or Joe Pompleano or whatever that guy on X was like, hey, this is crazy. It's like, yeah, it is. Somebody should really be talking about this. and X was like, hey, this is crazy. It's like, yeah, it is. And it happens. Like, yeah, like this is our national open. Like the USGA just figured out a way to get an NBC out of this contract. Give it to somebody who gives you shit. You don't want it.

You don't want new golf. Yeah, just go. It's crazy. USGA put the, like, put the hammer down. Mike Wan, we called you out on this several years ago. You said you were going to fix it. It improved slightly. And we maybe been brainwashed into like acknowledging that it improved. It was such a disgrace for

their lack of setting up drama today, killing any momentum at any point, and just no advancement of like, oh, here's what the lie is. Rory shot into 18. They rushed us into this final shot of trying to win a major. They basically were like, oh yeah, there's no problem with this. He bangs it right into the bush. And like he had a huge problem with that bush right in front of you set up none of that drama. Like that's the point of the sport is like, to make you feel some of that drama. And they delivered on none of that today. Honestly, it's just so much stuff happened in playing

through. Oh, and then they come back and there's no context and they're rushing to get into it. They're they're they're proud of these split boxes to like they came back did a split box of two putts on the same green, which is which was an epic middle finger faxing at one point said, Hey, we've totally lost track of this group like it was some sort of music like, leave the committee trying to play them off the stage. Come on, man. I just got some music on here.

So he's ready. All right. We'll see you at TC. Thank you very much. You guys. It's like where the hell's this music coming from? Is that KVV's entrance music? It is his entrance music. He has been on site all week at the US Open. He I believe. Did you see anything out there today? What'd you see? Yeah, just a little bit, boys. I haven't seen unspeakable things.

As we say sometimes, really, really, really fun. Really the best, I think major that I've maybe ever covered in terms of drama. I'll have good news for you. Because I think the TV coverage was so bad. And believe me, I was watching some of it on my phone as I was like going along. I decided that my story tomorrow is going to be was like to timestamp every single thing that happened on the back nine. Because so much shit was happening at the same

time. And there was no way the viewer at home could understand that because the television coverage was so bad. And there was so many commercials interspersed with it. So I think hopefully, we'll be able to put into context a little bit like what the shit was going on and like how intense it was. Like I mean there was a lot of times when Bryson was like backing off a drive because Rory was gonna get

a roar up ahead and like none of that you could tell on TV. We were talking before you came on about like how close, you know the one that comes to mind is 17th T to the the or I'm sorry the 18th t to the 17th green What was kind of your favorite example of a moment today of those guys being very very close to each other's kind of? Wake and waiting for the other person to make a move. I mean that was it there was for sure You know when Rory was about to tee off Bryce and he kind of looked up, looked up, looked like he's gonna wasn't sure if Bryson was gonna hit, then kind of got into his routine, got over the ball,

and then Bryson's ball came plopping right down to 15 feet, whatever it was, 10 feet. That was such a good shot. Oh, okay. And you like, you know, then he sort of had to reset and just hammered it, you know, left up there. was, you could really feel like everything happening. The history of it all was sort of hanging in that moment. And that's what made it really, really fun. I mean, from watching on television, that's, I'm always hesitant to use the C word when it comes to what we witnessed in golf,

not cheat, but choke. I feel like that's a strong label to put on somebody, but I'm struggling to think of a harder choke than what we saw out of Rory on 16 and 18. Does that feel that way from the grounds? It did. I mean, I was purposely trying to kind of play in between half of them and sort of stay,

but mostly so I still thought Bryson was gonna win. Even honestly, when Rory took a two shot lead, I was like, I've seen this movie too many times. Maybe it was having written 9,000 words about it earlier this week. But I was like, you know, I got to stay with Bryson because I think if he's kind of the story. And so you could just see up ahead,

kind of looking at my phone, looking up ahead and then hearing the groans. And it was tough. You know, some of those look, three footers are hard in the US Open, but 496 of 496 for the year. That was Justin Ray Stat. You know some of those look three footers are hard in the US open but 496 of 496 for the year that was Justin Ray stat and then he misses three of them today. That's tough and It's then like I don't know just miss one inside just one. Yeah

Yeah, he just missed the other one on 18 was just just outside It was eight feet was three 18 was three feet nine inches Okay And then but 16 was eight feet was three. 18 was three feet, nine inches. Uh and then but 16 was two feet, six inches that didn't 18 that putt had ripping at 16. It was a little across grain but like it

did. It was not outside the hole. Like that was a yippie like chokey putt like he would. He will tell you that. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, he just, there's sometimes when he in that middle stretch, he played really well and and then when it kind of really weighed a bit

all, I think that the 10 years was kind of weighing on him a little bit. He wanted it too bad and not a good shot in 17 there to pull it. It's uh it's tough but it was the Bryson because Bryson honestly super classy afterwards. Yep. We got

Wi-Fi issues. Your Wi-Fi is not great but just I was just gonna ask for your lasting. Yeah, your lasting kind of takeaway and moment from uh from what the left there and he's got a tree that's hanging over his thing. He's he's backing away right as it's it's sort of thinking about hitting it. He says, you know, G, I do not feel comfortable with this. Like, I don't know what to do. And his caddy just kind of calming him down and be like, you know what, if it goes in that bunker, we're okay. And, you know, go in the bunker. And I think it just looked like such a long bunker shot. And you know,

he the fact that he said that he that was the biggest moment for him. The thing he'll remember most was pretty cool. Awesome. Well, we look forward to reading it tonight. We'll let you get to, uh, get to reading it. Cause we got another, another guy we got to bring in, uh, to kind of, you know, as the situation comes down with the police rolling in and got it, he's got, he's got to talk to the cops cause he's the, he's the one that's supposed to answer for this party.

But Kev appreciate all your week this week. You can catch the, uh, the recap up tonight or in tomorrow morning at no laying up.com and get to work can't wait to read it. Icarito, Mr. Neil Schuster, the czar is joining us now. What are your emotions like right now Neil? Dej, happy Father's Day to you. Hey thanks yeah bit of a bit of a news dump this morning. Gentlemen, well, first of all, I don't have the answer for shit because I Just if we're gonna throw it out there. The the news dump is that the DJ and his wife are expecting He didn't just have a child today if that's what people were. Yeah, sorry. Sorry in case they're not following on Instagram Well, you listen. Yes, of course. So happy Father's Day to my my associate here. That was a tough one guys

That was tough one guys. That was tough. And Randy congrats to you and shout out to Bryson people. Make sure you like and subscribe to his channel. Uh, I hope he starts some type of a nest membership soon. I know Randy will be first in line for that type of extra behind the scenes content. Uh, what a fucking day of golf, man. That was awesome. I just saw you said it in Slack earlier. I think what I'm most upset about is that we didn't get a playoff. Truly. I think it

would hurt less if Roy lost it in a playoff and we got to see him go toe to toe. The fact that they were in separate groups. I don't know, it kind of was an off speed pitch all day. I think it added to the drama a little bit of like a call and response situation from a group ahead. I mean, the thing that I love about Rory and I've always loved is I felt like he's always been very relatable because he hits really fucking bad shots. And for that to pop up on 18 to miss a three foot nine inch putt, to basically push to a playoff is, I mean, it's heartbreaking and it sucks and it, it bothers me. But I want to say this, this is the first time and you can ask my wife, I was out on the couch. Just I'm living and dying on every shot. And I haven't felt that

since St. Andrews in the open championship. And I've hand up, I'm a bad dying on every shot and I haven't felt that since St. Andrews in the open championship and I hand up. I'm a bad sports fan. Like I don't follow baseball like you guys do. NBA finals isn't doing it for me this year. Hasn't done anything for me in like five years. I'm just not a good fan. Even the fucking Superbowl. Like I just don't really have a team.

Rory, even when I try not to play on the block party, I can't help it. I want to come it. I want to come grill and I want to come throwback of some high noon's and some cold beers and maybe some heavier stuff with you guys. He just gets me going and it sucks, man. It really like I kind of wanted there to be a playoff and it felt like it just didn't, it didn't, uh, climax the way it should have. I think we will look back fondly. KVV asked the press, uh, question in the press conference, uh, to Bryson saying like, this might be go down as one of the all time us opens.

How does that make you feel? And he kind of had Bryson speechless for a second where he was like, he made room for wow. Bryson literally at the mic was like, wow, that's wild. You know, and I know Bryson's a lover of history and that kind of made me think, I think defining moment of this day is like, I'm gonna remember it and I'm happy about that. And so I don't know where you wanna take this.

If you got any questions for me, I'm happy to answer them unlike Rory, which is disappointing, but I'm making room for a while, and I'm gonna remember today. So there you go. I got a couple questions that we all wanna get to. I think this is a good time with you here. Danny D3493, I wanna do an on the record segment later,

but let's just put our, for the record, put this out there right now. Does Rory ever win another major after this? And I'll add on to that question to today, change your answer on that. I mean, hell yeah. Like it for me personally, I'm like, dude, that's that's like got hit by a truck. Like that's as hard as that's, I think as hard as anybody can take one right there.

Five X St. Andrews is what it feels like right now. Maybe that's recency, but it feels way worse than St. Andrews. And why do you think like, why did St. Andrews? Cam was like balling. He was one it. Yeah. And I feel like Bryson was trying. Bryson wanted the playoff too.

He was like, come on, man. It'll be great for the channel. It'll be good content. You know, like let's go. Let's go. Dude, you can't be missing for the channel. It'll be good content. You know, like let's go. Let's go. Dude, you can't be missing three footers. We can't have that. I think to listen, listen, I feel like I have some experience in this realm.

I think it's the miss short putts, right? Those those specifically are just what crush you. I mean, had Rory made three or four bogeys like he did on 15 in that manner, right? Where he's missing the green and he's chipping up and he's missing 20 foot putts. Like that's a whole different beast. But, but missing the short putts, that's what kills you. Especially when that's kind of your thing. I'm a Mickelson fan. Yeah. You know, when it's like, sorry, that's what we're, I was joking in my, my grilling segment last night. Like what's, you know, what, if he doesn't win, what's it going to be? I didn't hear anybody say like he's going to miss a bunch of like little baby short putts, right? Like he, he did everything else. He possibly could have, he needed to do it. And he was putting it so well, that's just gonna make it taste a lot worse.

And when you're watching it with my wife, the casual fan, and she's like, oh my God, you know how, it's like, I know, I can't explain it to you, I just don't know, he did all the hard stuff right, and he missed, I know, it's okay though, it's okay, Bryson's not gonna get up and down from here, no, there's no way he gets up and down from here. There's no way. Ironically, I thought of, when there's no way Ironically, I thought of when he was up to ironically

I thought of the the gif that goes around and that part from the video with it we shot at pinehurst too where Randy is Talking about Donald Ross and pinehurst number two and he's just like just when you think you're okay It's like oh, where's it gonna come from? Where's the double bogey gonna come from? That's not Randy when he was up to When he's up to I was like, okay, where's it gonna come from? That's another Randy. When he was up to, when he was up to, I was like, okay, where's it going to come from? Like I, as much as it felt different, I was like, how, how is this one going to not go his way? He was minus 350, I think in the odds at one point.

I mean, how good was that 10, 11 stretch though, or nine and 10? I was like, oh my God, he's balling, man. But I felt like it, sorry, I was, I was cautious there as well. And I didn't expect the short ones though. I thought it was going to be like the chip on 15. I was like, Oh man, I thought things, I thought we were looking at double there on 15 was, was the spot. Uh, but to answer your question, I do think Rory wins another major. I'm going to, I'm KVV Memorial stick your neck out pick. And the reason

is I think he's going to keep himself in shape. I think he cares enough that he's going to be around for another 10 years. And I think there's, you know, you look at what happened with Mickelson, Randy, you brought it up. It does have some whiffs of Phil. And I think Rory has some golden years, some mega light left in his career. And so I think he clips one here in the next five years, for sure. I did too. It's like the ultimate just example of mental fortitude, right? Where it's like, man, he can leave here and think about the Miss Putz, or he can leave here and think about like, that was a weird fluke and I literally did

everything else like almost perfectly. And like that was the step forward, right forward right is like over the last five years He's top ten in the third I guess six years now he's top ten in the US Open every single time and what has let him down So it was exactly what you said last night a weird wedge here and there a bad iron shot here and there and like Apart from 15 and I guess maybe maybe maybe maybe you could argue five Even though that was like a great shot a good shot, a very, very, very good shot that was not a great shot. That didn't let him down. It was a freak thing.

And if he can somehow compartmentalize, like, hey, that was a freak storm and we're going to totally flush that one and throw it out, then yeah, maybe he comes out and wins Trune. But man, I think the reason we all like him is he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that thinks that way he seems like the kind of guy that's less a deeper thinker that just really emotionally kind of gets banged up by these sorts of things and the highs are highs and the lows are lows and so Yeah, I hope his I hope his superpower doesn't kind of work against him in this in this way Randy does he win another major? No.

You said this five years ago. You said it five years ago. He's reading. The real ride it was today though. God, Randy was, was doing the gritty all over. He was, he was poked his hand up through the verbal green. I'll fuck it. I'll do it. He wins true.

I think he bounces right back and wins the next one. Wow. So I'll leave taking over the block party for, for true. Well, yeah, I was going to say earlier, actually, if anybody reads the fine print of the contract, technically the block party was purchased by shell corporation that was headed up by Cody. So, uh, if you want to talk to Cody about maybe purchasing that, you know, I'll be, I'm going to St. Kitts,

so I'm not going to be around. Here's what I'm playing off of. I'd love to come if you're happy, I'd love to swing by. History repeating itself, 2011 Masters Heartbreak, couldn't have been much worse. It was, you know, shot 80, fell off completely off the pace, and it was a horrific day,

and came back and won the next one. That was the mental fortitude that Rory had. This one's so bad that I honestly, truly believe now that he can now play majors with like, dude, you can't get your heart, you can't rip your own heart out worse than you just did. Like, just go play free. Like, truly just go play free.

Like, go fucking get it, dude. It's time now. If someone showed you like the script of like what happened today before it happened Would you have like believed or would you said said like that's like two on the nose like that couldn't that couldn't happen. I Don't believe that Probably I don't know the last three years of golf have felt that way Hey friends question for you here We're in a very similar situation last year Rory started the final round of the US Open one shot off the lead. Bogey the very first hole to tie the lead and didn't make a single bogey.

Didn't do anything else the rest of the round. Ended up losing the win by one. What makes this so much different than last year? Because I hear a lot of people down in the dumps and I'm feeling really good after today. Because the whole thing with Rory's always been been he doesn't even give himself a chance. Randy, I'm doing fantastic. How are you doing? I'm doing fantastic. No, because seriously, look at how he hit his irons in his wedges today. Like he had

to, we joked about it all day. Like he had to, he scrambled his ass off. He missed Wednesday. He shouldn't have missed. Can I ask you a question though, is it doesn't, it all lined up today and it's like, you know, rarely do you have all parts of your game fire and it felt like he was, I mean, he was in no nipple, he's getting his titties off and it just felt like, yeah, he hit a few squirrely approach shots, but that was the best approach day I've seen from him in a long time. didn't make any like and putting there other than the shorty yeah can I for sure he lost 1.67 strokes today approach Cody let's say like just

hypothetically if you if you won a lottery like a small lottery let's say and you won like three million dollars but in the celebration in that night you ended up like a firework blew your right foot off. Are you gonna go to bed, like more happy? Like, are you gonna be like really thrilled about the 3 million bucks, or are you gonna feel bad about the foot you just lost? That's what it feels like for Rory right now.

It's very sad. It's like, oh yeah, you did all this great shit, but oh my God, I made it so much worse. Like, I made it all so much worse with everything I did after I did the great thing. It's the Jason P Pierre Paul conundrum there I think the other thing Cody like because I'm with you That's kind of a more succinct way of saying what I was trying to say earlier is like if you only take away the positives

Like this was a massive step forward however Like I think if you were Sam Burns you're leaving leaving today being like, man, I didn't win. But like, finally, we've got some form. We're moving in the right direction. Like Sam Burns hasn't been through like three years of like fighting the board, getting off the board, getting on the board, maybe getting divorced now, not getting divorced. Rumors going around players in the locker room don't like you.

Everybody's trying to like stab you in the back. People are firing off all kinds of horrible shit at you online like I Just this feels like a bit of a damn breaker back breaker for me, but I hope I don't know So there's maybe some psychoanalysis going on there. That's unwarranted, too So this year is just because of all that this year is completely different than his second place playing dog shit in the final Round and how he felt after that or the year prior? Finishing second not doing anything in the final round at the old course this year because of all that stuff. It's different.

I think that's what I know. We're trying to say I would again, I think we're going to bounce back, but I think it gets harder. It's like compounding interest, the most powerful force in the world, baby. This stuff, it does compound though. It's like more scar tissue. And this is because what Randy nailed it. Like these guys are psychos though, man. But like true. I don't think he is. I like Scotty, I think can go to jail and then come out and shoot 66. Like

I don't think I don't know, man. Not the next day though. That's true. Well, true. I just don't. I don't know. Again, psychoanalysis would love to talk to him about this, not me. But like, I just don't think he's built like that as much as he likes to say he is. KVV would be a better person to ask because I think he's got a lot of insights on this. But like, I think that's why we all like him man is because he's not like a robotic psycho. I don't know. It hurts and he's clearly showing that like in his actions right now, right? That's why he's fucking out of there already on a plane on the way to Florida

Who knows if he's playing next week or not? I haven't even checked it. But I mean It's just really weird because it seems like Rory if he took everything that people said about him and how he felt like He would have been long gone a long time ago because he's put himself in the position that he has and he took a lot of shit from it. But at least from what he's saying outwardly, specifically in the last month, if you want to look at what he's done personally

in his personal life, I mean, and then to come out and again, have a performance like this, it's nuts. It is, it is. Neil, anything else you want to get off your chest? I got a couple things. You wanted me to come come and get three outs. I got a couple more I few things say about Bryson one I want to say

thank you for what he does online and Honestly, like thank you for engaging I think that that needs to be said like it is fun to see the player break the fourth wall and amp up the crowd. And the fact that he keeps a Sharpie on his person ready to sign autographs in between holes is like both stupid and awesome, but like it makes me watch the events

and it makes me lean forward. So I appreciate that. I do wish that he would have stayed the bridesmaid for another year, like until next year, like I I'm happy that he won, but I wish it was, I wish he had to work a little bit harder for it because he is bridezilla, like watching the festivities afterwards, he's like raking the bunkers for the camera. And he's just, he's a coot. He's like, he makes me cringe. Honestly, he makes me cringe. And I think I would accept that a little bit more

if he had to work a little bit harder for it. But like all of it feels rehearsed. And it feels like the destination wedding that we didn't need to have just a lot of stuff there that I'm like, man, uh, I don't, I don't know, but the guy balled out and he's really good at golf and he is electric. And so I want to give him credit for that. But, um, it's even the press conference.

Like, I mean, shout out to my uncle, Larry and my uncle, Sergey. He's he's shouting out YouTube. Like, I mean, it's, it's really important to him, you know, this, this whole content stuff. So it's just, I don't know. I think there's a, a lot of, um, there's a lot to think about there of like, he, he disappeared for a while. He got hurt. He got reflective. Then he started making his own content. He has time to make his own content because he's playing on the live tour, lost a bunch of sponsors. So he's got, he's just got his own, he's in his own world basically. And I think there's pros and cons to that. And I think they were all on display today.

So that's, I just wanted to get that off my chest. I think, and I think we maybe didn't give this proper justice earlier in the week as much as we talked about Bryson about how, how performative it all is, right? It's not like, do I think he is a truly changed man? No, do I think he has figured out finally figured out a way to reach the public and appeal himself to a wide swath, wider swath of people, mostly younger people? Yes, I do. Right. And still when he opened his mouth lying about

for all these years, we the the ho the hat was about Hogan, Hogan, Hogan. Now all of a sudden, it's about Payne Stewart, because we're at Pinehurst and like, just making up that he went to SMU because he saw Payne Stewart's mural on the wall, which we've gotten reports that was not on the wall when he visited SMU. But it the longer it goes on, it's like, Oh, I don't know, dude. I don't know, Randy, what you're gonna say? It doesn't matter. Doesn't on, it's like, Oh, I don't know, dude. I don't know. Ready? We can say, it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter if it's well, it does to

me though, like as I'm watching something like authenticity does matter to me. Do I find it entertaining? Randy, I find it entertaining the same way I find like watching The Bachelor or The Bachelorette entertaining. It's where I'm like, Oh, man, like I can't look away. And I you're Yeah, you hook me for next week. I'll watch it. But I fucking hate myself sometimes for it because I know how fake this is. I know the producer setting up these conversations in the confessional. It feels like a goddamn confessional on the Jersey shore sometimes where it's

like, he's asking himself rhetorical questions in the press conference. I think it's a different kind of performative, but I think we're a wash in performative, uh, fluff from our professional athletes. And I watched the new Neil Brennan DJ. I don't know if you've seen the new Neil Brennan standup special, but I did watch that crazy good. I just can't help but think about the part about Ellen DeGeneres when he's like, um, you know, is Ellen nice though? And he's like, listen,

she's like a tycoon of her industry. She's one of the most insanely talented people in the world. Do you enjoy your show? Like, why do you care if she's like nice? And that's what I just can't help feeling when I look at Bryson. Like, is it fun to watch? Is he interesting?

Does he make you feel things? Cool. Like that's more than we're getting from 95% of the rest of these, these people. Yes, but I don't like to feel manipulated, Randy. And I don't like to feel like somebody. You can't live in this society if you don't like to feel manipulated. I know, but I have to personally call it out for myself. Like I, I don't feel like, um, I don't know. It's a good juxtaposition with Rory.

Like I feel like the anguish and the vulnerability that I see with Rory juxtaposed with Bryson and the performative and almost rehearsed stuff that I see from him. I guess it's unfair for me to like say that if people like that from Bryson, that's fine. But personally, I, it makes me, it makes me crazy. I'm not saying you have to like Bryson, but I don't think Bryson's alone and being performative, I guess is where I net out. And I will meet you there and say that that's, that's totally fair. And I just think it's almost like the, the, I feel bad because I'm bringing that up when the golf he played today was awesome.

You know what I mean? And, and from a golf standpoint, like before he opens his mouth, I am like, again, leaning forward. I'm like, Oh my God, what's he going to do, I am like, again, leaning forward. I'm like, Oh my God, what's he going to do here? He's talking through like the clock system with his caddy. I love that stuff. Like I like hearing him talk about the game of golf. It's just what, once he starts to go into like the, like you're saying the pain Stuart stuff and just the, the, I don't know, I guess the YouTube stuff. It's just like, man, I'm just not here for that. Like that, that feels like the bachelor to me. I'm like, Oh, I'm just looking for love, man, I'm just not here for that. Like that feels like the bachelor to me.

I'm like, oh, I'm just looking for love, man. I'm just looking for love. It's like, no, you're not. You're looking to get fucking famous, dude. You see it for the wrong reasons is what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm not giving you a rose.

I'm sorry. For that reason, I'm out. I think there's two things. One, I think this is a fascinating conversation that's only gonna get more interesting as we turn this whole world into golf as an entertainment supernova. And what are we gonna do to make golf the next football?

It's just like, it's not. And you're gonna think that the way to get there is by propping up guys like this and turning them into the drivers of the entire industry, which is going to come with a lot of conversations like this, I think is the first thing. And the second thing, I listened to your guys' conversation last night, and I think what's tough for me about Bryson and the discourse around him, of which we're usually part of, and happy to recognize our own role in that, is it's just not a one or zero, I feel like, right?

I don't think he was Hitler before, and now he's the best among us, returning from World War II. I don't think that's the transformation, but I think that's the way that this shit always gets boiled down to, is just like, this guy was the worst possible person on the history of the planet,

and now he's the best possible person on the history of the planet. And now he's the best possible person on the history of the, you know, and that's where it just becomes like, I don't know, man, I think he's a work in progress. He's trying to get a little better. He's stumbling along the way. He's probably like, you know, he's saying some things that are going to look very clownish in the future. He's probably he's trying to figure out like, I think honestly, like he just really is enjoying the feeling of people not making fun of him and

People embracing him and people cheering for him rather than saying hey, Brooksie You know I think that probably feels really good and he's chasing that feeling a little too hard and then he'll hit that bumper and he'll Probably steer back the other way and so I don't know it's all just it's it's kind of gray and I think the the fool's errand not that any of you guys are doing this but just based on a lot of the telecast stuff and a lot of what I've I feel like I've seen is just like jumping to the end of the like redemption narrative is where I'm like dude just let's just chill out he's just a dude who's you know a

YouTube creator trying to look cool on TV and I guess that's why I wanted into maybe another year of in that in in flux in flux a little bit. I'm with you. It would have been, man, that would have been that kind of the sweet spot for me. Uh, but I am happy for him. I mean that I'm happy for me. Does he won the tournament? I mean, I don't believe you. I am in a way, Randy.

I really am. Like I think it's just then I, I do find myself rolling my eyes afterwards. I'm like, Oh, this guy, man. Like it's a lot. It's just a this guy, man. Like it's a lot. It's just a lot where it, yeah, it's a lot. So that's, that's where I'm at. Sorry. I got one more thing.

I want to give a shout out. We have to do a mound visit here because my guy's got 48 pitches in this inning. But yeah, this is my third out. That was, that was about tipping me. Brandy was fouling them off there. No, just get a breather here. It's a bad, I want to give a shout out to Pinehurst and the USGA. I thought that was a fan-tastic event. Like from a from a

championship management standpoint, like maybe we need to shrink the rota to Pinehurst. Reach. We should talk about this. I don't know. I'm excited to see Oakmont next year. Pinnacock. And guys give me two others and like, let's just go with a tight five man rotation, just like your, your pitching lineups in the MLB. Like what do we do? That was fucking awesome. And I love the, the, the native areas with just

the kind of roll the dice over there. DJ, you said it earlier. It makes you lean forward on like, Oh my God, is he going to have a lie? The balls on the ground? Is he going to get stuck in the wire grass? I don't know. That was awesome. I thought the USGA overall did a good job on the setup throughout the week. Randy, I know you may disagree with me, but I thought that was like right down the middle. I think they set quota really well.

I think half the people are upset and half the people are happy hitting quota. I think more people are happy than not sure at all that. So we got, uh, Oakmont, Chenicoke, then it goes to Pebble and then Wingfoot and then back to Pinehurst in 2029. Pebble Marion, they should have Pebble again. It's a hot date, but I would say the end of your car. The us open Pebbles, the one get that. No, I, I almost like Pebble. Like, I know it's eye candy, but that's the one that sticks out to me too, Randy, of like,

I don't know if I need it for the US Open. I like seeing it every year. I'm almost in the camp of, if we see it for a tournament every year, I just don't need it as a major venue. I'm sorry. If you can guarantee us conditions and you can't do it, right? Like that's the thing about Pinehurst is they have such a high floor for what their conditions are going to be. It's Sandhills Golf, it's June, you're not going to get... First of all, Rappel's rain really well. The shapes of the green one, Rappel, rain really well, and that turf is really good

resistant to rain. You're not going to get pillows soft no matter what. It's not just thick rough everywhere. Like they're they're, they don't, you don't need things to line up perfectly for a great US Open at Pinehurst. And you need everything to line up. Perfect. Like 2019 was terrible at Pebble because it was moist and marine. You're gonna get marine layer on the west coast in June. Like that's just gonna happen. It

happened at LACC last year. It's probably gonna happen again at Pebble. And with all the rough that they have out there, it's just, we're going to end up back in kind of some of the same spots that have not been nearly as entertaining as what we just witnessed. And last thing, intentional walk there. Last thing I'll say is why are we doing a four-man booth? I know you guys are going to get to it, but God, we're putting our boys in a bad position. I didn't think anybody on the broadcast was, was outright bad this week, but there's just too many cooks in the kitchen and it is a failure of management and a lack of decision making.

And it's really disappointing on the preeminent the United States golf open and we cannot find a two man broadcast team. What are we doing guys? What are we doing on NBC that that take the commercial? Well, I don't need to talk about all that shit I just think there were too many guys in there you got have a pro in Mike Turrico find him a guy Go with two bones and smiley were just they I mean they were in jail out on the course And I just want to hear from the guys standing next to it like he's standing next to player go down to the course What are we doing all right? That's all I'm done. I

Think that was great. You know, eligible for the hold. All right. Thanks. Thank you. Thanks for all you do online and congrats to Bryson. Let's knock out a couple segments here and then we can we can get to anything that we have left, which which might not be a whole heck of a lot. But listening golf when bad shots happen, there's the mulligan ball. When fire, water, or other damage happens, there's serve pro. Thankfully, the pros at serve pro can help us clean up some messy takes from this week. Let's go around the horn on some bad takes

and mea culpas and make them like they never even happened. Deeg, do you have one of these? I do. Yeah, you know, I sent in a video yesterday and got some vitriol from a lot of these, you know, online Twitter chefs and master, you know, pit masters about my grilling situation. I want to, I want to say a couple of things.

First of all, of course the grill was on, you know, I'm not a fucking psycho. Of course the grill was on. I had just thrown the burgers on. They were not frozen. They weren't like, you know, and I didn't pull the lid down because I had just thrown the burgers on. They were not frozen. They weren't like, you know And I didn't pull the lid down because I had to do this goddamn video, you know I was like I was trying to do three things at once. Of course, I put the lid down afterwards I just TC and I sidebar privately

But I didn't appreciate some of these assumptions that were being made what I will apologize for and I wish never happened was I should Have seasoned the I seasoned the burgers on grill, which is a bad call, you know And I know there's a lot of different schools of thought about this. I should have seasoned the burgers on grill, which is a bad call. I know there's a lot of different schools of thought about this. I should have seasoned the burgers before. I was cleaning the grill for a number of, almost a number of hours, I would say beforehand, and just forgot, time got away from me.

I'm watching the US Open. I'm doing a bunch of things. And so I wish I had seasoned the burgers before the grill, but that's the one I would take back. Randy, you have a mulligan? Ah, clean week for me. I got nothing. Uh, no, I, um, listen, I, I gave the setup a lot of shit and I still believe they could have made it a bit scarier earlier in the week, but man, I down the stretch. Like I said, that, that last nine holes, um, really the whole final round delivered that there weren't, you know, there weren't the 81s and the 79s and the crazy, crazy car wrecks out there.

and delivering the goods down the stretch. Awesome, awesome setup, great venue. So I will, I'll retract my feelings there from prior, from earlier in the week, I should say. That's big of you, Randy, I appreciate that. Something I would love to make like it never even happened. The first thing that came to mind is Rory's putt on 16 from two feet, six inches. That's the mulligan.

If I could have a mulligan this week, that's not for a take. I just wanted to throw that in there as an honorary of like, dude, this putt was short and not crooked. Like it's not a bendy putt. Like I'm gonna see this when I go to sleep tonight. And I have a feeling that guy is as well. But I feel like it's worth apologizing or mentioning.

I'd like a mulligan on the Scottie pick. I think we could all make this one because I think we all picked it. At least on the happy hour, we were unanimous and said Scottie's gonna win. Kept thinking about it all week. Did I miss something here? Was there a bad course fit?

Was there something I should have seen? T41 and Uncompetitive made four birdies the whole week. I don't know what I would have done differently here. I don't think that there was anything that would have screamed that he would not do it. But just felt like we needed to acknowledge that I was riding high for Scottie. Did shift my focus on, I said Bryson as of Thursday night. I said that Thursday, Friday and Saturday night, so if I can turn my mulligan into a positive, I will. But yeah, whiff badly on Scotty this week. So there's no you know, there's no regrets, just learning opportunities. Okay.

A bonus one too. I thought Pavan was gonna completely go away. And he he stuck in there and he hit some really good shots today. I'll throw an apology also for for spending half of my auction on Ludwig. That didn't didn't age well. That money was, you know, it's not looking good right now on the balance sheet. If you listen to our Friday show, we did an auction of guys that were on the board. And your boys, your boy got I got Bryson. So I ended up with the winner. And also, when we

did our pro golf fantasy draft back in March, I also got Scotty. And I also got Sander. And I also got Bryson. So I got Xander and I also got Bryson. So I got the first three majors. So I think I might have won that league already five years ago with that one. But that's it. That's a dynasty. It is a dynasty. Many are calling it.

Let's get to our Yeti coldest moment presented by Yeti and their new summer ready colors. They got hard coolers, soft coolers, drinkware, bags or cargo. You can get all of your summer gear. Can be found at yeti.com. Coldest moment of the week could be literally any definition possible for this week. Randy, what do you got for years? I, I mean, I thought a lot about this and I wanted to talk about Rory on five. That, that break he got, that was an ice cold roll down the hill,

settling into a sand indentation. That was tough. But I honestly thought the coldest moment was Bryson's up and down on eight. And after he made that putt, you know, the reaction, the energy, like that was ice cold. Of course, we've talked about the end of the tournament, but I'll go with Bryson's up and down on eight, which DJ in a text thread was like, Oh my God, he's so hoes back there. And he was, and he got it up and down. He made a

putt. That was awesome. My mulligan should have been that I gave the Ghana pallbearers when he went long left of that, of that green, because I thought he was dead. My mulligan should have been that I gave him the gun of pallbearers when he went long left of that green because I thought he was dead back then. Truly the worst plays on the golf course. Yes, it was unbelievable shot. Ranny, let me pick it up right there because I was fishing in a similar pond. I was thinking the up and down on 18 was kind of mine.

I was joking. You know, in a tech story, it was a bit like the onion or the click hole or whatever it is. Like the worst person you know just made a tech straight, it was a bit like the onion or the click hole or whatever it is, like the worst person you know just made an unbelievable up and down was kind of the first thing that popped into my head was that view of that guy. And you're probably right.

I think the one on eight was probably even better. So maybe we can, you know, combine our tickets to get a big Yeti cooler or something like that on Bryson's two up and downs. I am gonna go with the lasting image as well, which shout out to NBC for this one and USGA, whoever's responsible for this one, for just getting cameras in that scoring area,

for Rory sitting there watching that play out. I mean, this is as cold as it gets of just complete disbelief for what had just happened. And they captured this and that's the last image we have from Rory. Obviously he left shortly after this and that is my yeti coldest moment of the week. Cause I was feeling quite frigid when this happened. I am seeing on Twitter, TC just reposted a video of Rory leaving the parking lot. So I'm interested to see what that actually entails.

But that's a different definition of cold, but that would be right up there as well. Which I was gonna put a pin on this as you were, there was some discourse around Rory's shot into five today. He had a shot into the par five, gets onto the front right part of the green, rips off the front left and goes into a bushy area, tough area, and it led to a bogey. Got a lot of text about that one, a lot of conversation about John Huggins, I believe, was called it a mock, called it some sort of mockery about the way the USGA has set up this golf course. And

Randy, you and I are going to reach across the aisle, handshakes here. I can't believe it. Yeah. You and I are gonna like reach across the aisle handshakes here. I can't believe it. Yeah some bad takes about the fifth hole because I I'm ready to rant about this one because this was the easiest golf hole this week on the entire golf course Okay, and the whole point of the fifth hole as a par 5 It's like reachable is like hey This is the biggest contour on the whole course the the toughest false front on the whole entire golf course.

The obstacle you all have to avoid is the front left of this green or the front middle of this green or even the front right part of this green. It will come all the way off. It is called a false front for a reason. It's not actually green surface, okay? So Rory hit a shot up there that looked good.

I promise you, Rory was concerned about that shot the entire time, because he knew exactly what the challenge was of that shot. He got to hit five iron into that par five and he missed the spot like the other options There are lay up and try to hit a wedge to avoid that or blow it right like Bryson did in the bunker and easy Up and down for par He took on the risk of trying to challenge trying to make an eagle trying to make a birdie and he paid the price and made Bogey that's called good golf course architecture and good setup. Because when the line between birdie and bogey, the closer that gets together, that's good golf.

That's good golf setup. That's entertaining golf setup. That moment was like the defining, 10 years ago, I might've been in agreement, I'd be like, that looks stupid. But like the little bit of understanding of how this is, what the USGA is trying to do, what they're trying to do with the setup,

how they're trying to test you and identify a champion, that was a deciding moment. And Rory, to his credit, battled back after that. That could have sunk him. That could have been viewed as a tough break. It got into a bad lie. That part was a bad break, getting him into a bad lie down in the sandy area, whatnot, but he bounced back from it.

But I just thought that was a pretty interesting moment and speaks to the brilliance of Pinehurst, honestly. It's like, why should a par 5 be easy for you to hit in two? Why should that ball have stayed on the green? Explain that to me. How's that a great test of golf? Especially when there's two of them. Yes. Yeah. No, I seriously felt like I was taking crazy pills. Are we so far down wanting to eradicate every single rub of the green, like luck of the bounce out of golf? Like that's part of the game, right? I get that it was it was very unlucky, but that's that's golf. That's life. If we want to make a big deal out of golf being like life like that, it happens, man.

And for people, Huggins tweet was awful like for that to be an indictment on the USGA and the setup and Pinehurst like what are we doing I felt like that was like just a lot of Rory fanboys not not really you know using any logic that was tough and I think the other cool thing about Pine hurst too is you know we've we've said this with this wire brush or the wire bushes and all that is like, you're almost signing a contract before you hit that shot. Where it's like, hey, if it rolls off the green,

I cannot guarantee the safety of where it's gonna go to. I'm not saying you're not gonna have a little easy chip right there, it might just keep going and going and going, or it might stop or it might not, or it might, or it might go in the bunker. And know and even on the broadcast they were fooled where they're you know oh that's going to roll right down by where Cantlay's is and that bunker that's not such a bad oh no it didn't stop in there it took a took a left turn and oh god now he's in a footprint he's probably always evens out i mean that's lynx golf dude like that's that's the beauty of golf. And you know, were these same people bemoaning

the grandstand on 13, like ricocheting his ball back almost onto the green? Were they complaining about the fans, giving them a great lie off of 14 on that rope hook that should have been 40 yards left of where it ended up? Like this stuff evens out. So that, God, to focus on that one bad break on five was, that was infuriating.

It was also funny when it happened. I didn't know that it was gonna happen this way, but it's like, oh God, he's gonna lose by one. Like that was it. That's it, yeah, he didn't have that one to spare. Like that's okay, we lost. Charlie Mercer 96 asked, is this the most painful moment since you started NLU?

I want to be very clear. I never knew how big of like, and I'm not saying this like poke fun. Like I'm just not the Rory golf fan that you guys are. So I feel like I'm kind of watching this as an observer. Like, oh my God. Yeah. Uh, I, for me it's not, but obviously this question is better suited for the rest of the group. I, uh, this was pre NLU for me, but, uh, speech at, at the open in speech at the open at St. Andrews was worse for me. Wow. He had won the first two legs of the grand slam. Should have won the third great week. the Grand Slam, should have won the third. Great week.

Talk about just waiting for like, oh my God, all the script writers are going to get together and we're going to really do this Hollywood ending. Having your heart just kind of ripped out, that was the first time that really happened for me. But this one's up there. It's funny, I went to a different speed moment. 2016 Masters was the one that probably hurt the most mean I guess I was already dead by then. Fair enough. Degenman2, where does this tournament rank in the best majors of the last 20 years?

If you want some time to think about this one. I mean, 2019 Masters, I mean it wasn't like the best drama ever, but it was won by Tiger Woods. Like that was pretty darn incredible. I still, I said this after the fact, I remember, like I almost still can't process that one. It's too big. It's like too big of a thing that I'm like,

it's gonna take me like 20 years to like really think about that one. So I like weirdly that one doesn't even register for me and it's very strange 22 it just outside the range on this is 2004 Masters with Phil making the putt and shooting back 931 and making the 20-footer on it that was that was that was pretty peak Speeth's first Masters again, I'm a massive speed homer obviously, but that one was up there for me I know that wasn't the same drama but just like kind of felt like you were watching to like oh my god This might be Tiger Woods

Watching him just hit every shot and play video game golf was was very fun. The hollow was really cool 2014 yeah some nominees coming in there. Oh nine open Tom Watson Stewart sink Stuart sink 2021 PGA with Phil and Capca 2016 open with Phil and Henryk a lot of common theme here a lot of fill ones. Yeah, involved in oh wait us open of course was ridiculous Tiger on a broken leg. Yeah, I mean, if that's in the window, like it's gotta be that one. Yeah. But since there man, since we've been covering major championships,

this is, that's the most my heart's been in my throat. Like in terms of just like true suspense and take me back to the feeling I have as a kid watching like this tournament and just being so enthralled with like, dude, somebody is going to like make a heroic, do something heroic and somebody is probably going to choke, not knowing who it was going to be, even though I probably should have known

who it was going to be. That's like what made me a sports fan and a golf fan to begin with. And it just doesn't feel like we get this that often in majors these days. I mean, I'll give the guy some shout outs, but honestly, both of the majors on hell Cabrera one were fantastic majors. Yeah. Truly. Oakmont US Open in 07 and then the Masters, didn't that go to a playoff? Like they were both fantastic finishes. He went to a playoff with Adam Scott. That one he won.

Which was also an amazing. Or is that the one he lost? I get that confused. The one he lost. That's the one he lost. I won the 09. Did he go to play with Kenny Perry? Did win on a playoff, that's exactly right.

Yeah, playoff with Kenny Perry and Chad Campbell, that's right. What have we not gotten to yet? Did we go hard enough on Hampshire Dam? Can we talk about Cantlay a little bit? Because I thought Cantlay today, this was a big missed opportunity for him. And it's all going to get lost, but the guy, his putter let him down and I thought there were specific instances like the exchange on nine where he stuffed it and Rory was outside of him and Rory makes he misses. They had the same deal I believe

on was it I'm not gonna remember the whole but there were there were many instances where it's like Pat you're you're like the the best thing you do is putt the ball and for him to lose I think like 1.9 strokes today on the green he's you can chalk it up to an experience you can chalk it

up to like not rising to meet the moment but I I thought he shrunk with his best ability today. And I thought that was a big missed opportunity for Pat. It must, I mean, however you guys have always felt about like, Fee now is probably how I feel about Kay. Like I just, I never felt like he was a threat, even if he had a putt. To what look almost, you know, get into a playoff,

what it looks like it might be to get into a playoff there on 18. I'm just like, ah, this is not going in. Like it's just not. And I think that's my point is like, I never thought he was gonna win either, but like in a different universe, like he very easily could have been at 600 at the end of the day.

And I just felt like it was more an indictment on just like, ah, my guy's not ready for prime time. I think it's a proper tournament for Big Tone. Also, sorry, to come off. Can't he led the field and strokes game approach this week like This was such a proper test and again i've i've i've i've ride for big tone But not usually in majors just because he kind of usually gets a little bit exposed in majors And this was a big finish for him. I mean to make that putt there on 18 shoot 67 today Um, i'm proud of my guy. I'm very happy for my guy. Here here. I couldn't have said it better myself. Sorry. Yeah, but he was also never under any

pressure. Like it was a perfect Tony round where like he we all knew he was never actually in it. He could just be free. Yeah, it was bogey bogey's to the first four. I don't want to get in anybody's way. Quite a disappointing weekend for Ludwig. Disappointing Sunday from Morikawa as well. I was hoping for a top 10 for him for different purposes, but he shot two every day finished T14. Sergio great finish for him T12. Corey Connors top 10. I know Randy drafted him twice in our draft on Friday night rather than drafting Pavan. Davis Thompson snuck into the top 10

as well, as did Sam Burns and another T7 finish for Russell Henley and Xander Schauffele. Good to see Hideki in the mix as well, but 70-70 on the weekend was not much of incontentional win. Eight guys under par for the whole tournament. Eight guys. Without much wind, that's about as good as a golf course can do holding up to it.

I mean, Tommy Fleetwood shooting 68 today was just, we love that. That's written in the stars. That might've been stimulated. I'm proud of you for not going through the whole bit this week, you know, not falling for it. And I was gonna say- He did say many, many, many, many times

that he was gonna win this week. Totally. Oh, but that's in the models. That's in the models. Yeah, We know that's going to happen. Daniel Berger, Minn-Ri Lee, honestly didn't know you guys were playing this week. So, congrats on the T21s. I see you're out there doing stuff. The Low-Am race was fun. I know Jordan was following that closely between Shipley and Luke Clanton. A bit of a surf pro on aisle six there for Clanton coming in, but fun to watch that

come down the stretch. Tough 18th hold for Luke Clanton, hit a second shot to five feet three inches and proceeded to three putt that to lose the low M race by two. Is there a, I'm trying, it's been mentioned by both, you know, TC, Neil popping in, KV was at the course following it and he brought it up as well.

Is there any, is there a different way we can discuss the television coverage? Is there something different? Is there a, is there, somebody put a point on this, like a period at the end of the sentence? I could rant for 15 minutes on it. I don't think we need to do that anymore. Like it's kind of know what I'm gonna say on it

about how much of a disgrace it is. Is there a different way we can describe the frustration being felt here? I'm just gonna speak from the heart. Didn't bother me today as much as it bothered you guys. I know you got riled up. I understand. Maybe I was watching this and watching Twitter and other stuff at the same time. I thought Brando was really fun. I thought he embraced the heel roll. This is my personal interpretation. He seemed like he was very actively just rooting

for Rory and rooting for Bryce for sure. Find the worst possible death on every on every tee shot. I greatly enjoyed that. I thought he really picked up the Johnny Miller mantle. I didn't think anybody else was particularly great. I would echo what Neil said. I thought there's a lot of too many cooks in the kitchen and certainly things could have been done better. But for me personally, I thought the the golf, the golf carried the day and gave them a big pass on, on a lot of that stuff for me. So I, I understand your frustration, but that's, that's where I'm at today. Randy, I don't, I don't know where you're at.

I totally I'm on your side. I support you. You have my undying unwavering support with NBC. I feel like I've, I've bitched and moaned and fought this fight so many times before. I just don't have it in me today or this weekend, honestly. Yeah, I mean, I thought it was the best they could have been handed and they fumbled the bag, right? I mean, it's like you couldn't, certain drama that they couldn't fuck up, right? And they, it's hard to say they delivered on any of it, because it's the golf

delivered and the commercial load to begin with Josh Carpenter was tweeting all about it. They had 15 minutes, like once the leaders went off of per hour of commercials that then, like, CBS, I guess, did a ton of similar amount of commercials at the PJ championship, but trimmed it heavily in the second hour and went down greatly. And NBC did end up going down by the end of the day, but it was not nearly at the same pace.

And it was just, it got in the way, dude. It really got in the way. I mean, just a total lack of ability to setting up shots. I just don't think you should be watching anyone in contention to win the championship in playing through on a Sunday. Like just no chance, absolutely none.

I don't care if you got a can it during commercial and come back and set up some drama. They just are incapable with the commercial load they have of setting up the drama properly. And I've heard, we've heard very well-sourced rumors, or I don't even call it rumors. We've, we've heard that the USGA is not, not satisfied with, with how things have gone with NBC, how things are going with NBC. The contract is up with how things have gone with NBC, how things are going with NBC. The contract is up after next year, is that right? That is their last year of the contract, they assume from Fox, I believe.

Sounds right. I don't know what's gonna happen, but I really, really hope they put the screws to them to say like, whatever we're doing, we're not doing that. Like you just, you can't do that. Fox took this thing way more seriously than NBC is taking it. NBC got to take over for pennies on the dollar and

turned into this commercial behemoth. Fox used to run nine and a half minutes of commercials, max during any window, if I have my information right, back when they had the contract and NBC has obliterated that plus adding playing through that nobody wants. And it affected 2026 for for. NBC runs through 2026. Okay. Sorry.

Who would you put in the booth? I feel like we're trying a lot of guys. Where would you like to see them settle, Dolly? I don't mind the actual announcers. And again, this isn't even directed at the people that we hear from. It's production and planning and just organization and the whole structure of the whole thing.

It's again, it's not Tommy Roy's fault that they have to run this many hours of commercials over the course of a day. It just sucks, man. It really does. My wife and my sister were here watching, they commented on it at one point today, like the commercials, oh my God. It's like, yeah, it's horrific. It's a bad, bad, bad way for like, this was the best day of golf. We're probably gonna get all year long. And like, yeah, people are people from outside of the golf world

were tuning in and be like, yo, what's going on here? It's like, yeah, bro, welcome to golf. Like if you wonder why people don't watch golf more frequently, this is a huge reason why. So the one thing I know, Neil touched on it, but I think Brando was awesome in there. I know yesterday a little mishap about OWGR. I don't think he went overly hard on it. And then today it felt like, well, I know, I'm just going off with people like, you know, obviously there's people out there who are gonna

wave either side of it and be up in arms either way. There's no middling anymore. What felt like today is that he was the perfect... it was the closest I've ever felt to being listening to Johnny again in the booth. Yeah. And I absolutely loved it. The issue I think and what Neil brought up and this does fall on Tommy is you can't have another person in that same booth that's also trying to be Johnny Miller. And at times it felt like Fax was like trying to keep up. And then you had like, you know, Mikey T doing an awesome job

of trying to spread everything out. But then you just kind of like everything is just like, why are we, why are so many people talking? And why are you describing things like we're watching the shots? It's bad. Like we see what's going on. But then we would get into the, you know, minutiae of why. And I'm like, yeah, this is awesome. But

I'm like, guys, why are you talking so much? What's the point of like, bones being celebrated for being back on this broadcast again? Like not on the bag anymore. Like it should be awesome. Just for the record, right now on live from Bryson is in the bunker with Johnson Wagner. In the dark, they're hitting bunker shots out of that I can't hear the audio right now, but Johnson. Live from was awesome this week as well.

I know it's totally different conversation, but same parent company, probably some crossover there. They were great. Always is. Again, that's why I started with, is there anything different we can say and they run a shitload of commercials, man? That's where I'm not trying to be defeatist or throw my hands up, Solly. I agree with everything you said and have said it for the last five years.

And it is a bit of like a SSG framework agreement. If I thought some big thing was going to happen to change all of this, like, oh man, on Monday, they're going to hear us and they're going to... I think this just might be what it is. And I think I'm maybe just resigning myself to that fact a little bit too much. But you you are right. And I stand with you. I guess that's what I guess maybe I would just rather let them win then then be stressed about it for the next

10 years. Because I don't think anything's gonna change. Did Johnson just Johnson's now holding the US Open trophy up because I think he just hit a great bunker shot. Bryson has a microphone. It's not that hard. Ah, it's great theater, gonna have to go back and re-watch this.

What have we missed? What have we not covered at this point? Anything else we need to shout out? Shout out ZB, great week. T26, I believe. I know he was a couple over today, but again, he is not, I think he would be the first to tell you. He doesn't totally possess the dream skill set

for major championship golf in 2024. So for him to show up and have a T26 finish, I think is Herculean. I'm very stoked for him on that. Same with Brian Harmon, honestly, T21, another guy that just keeps doing stuff in me. You know something we haven't talked about? I know it's being discussed. What did you think about the USA chants on 18 when Rory was completing his bogey? I don't even know if I heard that. I think I was classless Americans on the floor

crying. I think it's just another dumb American thing of like, we just don't have anything else to chant. Everybody wants to be like good sporting people and like, oh, we don't know what to say like, USA USA like I, I wouldn't say that that's like a personal knock at Rory or anything, nor would I really understand why that ties so much to Bryce. It's just one of those dumb things that they say.

Sorry, Johnson hit to a foot. A lot of ways, a lot of ways. Johnson hit to a foot out of that bunker, by the way. That was sick. Yeah, that was- Maybe Rory should have hit it in the bunker. Maybe it wasn't that hard of a shot. That might be a good point.

I think Bryson has a bit... I will say, Randy, I think there are a certain amount of people that have been wildly turned off by Rory the last two, three years. Yep. And so I think some of it probably was anti-Rory. I think we'd be burying our heads in the sand if we thought that everybody was as pro-roary as they were Three four five six ten years ago, which I think Randy speaks very very much to your recurring take about Jay constantly putting him out there as the bullet sponge instead of answering any questions himself So I think there's that

And I think with Bryson there might be just a bit of a your vibe attracts your tribe And I think with Bryce, and there might be just a bit of a, your vibe attracts your tribe situation, and I wish all those people the best. I probably won't be participating, but I hope you guys all have a good time. Seems like a hell of a day. I put this up at the top and I skipped past it, it's my fault, but forward review for the US Open.

Do you guys have one? I don't have one yet, I'm gonna pull it out of nowhere. I got one. Pinehurst colon like and subscribe was what I took away. I think just smash that button. It was a marriage of our favorite youtuber and one of our favorite golf courses and it was a potent, potent cocktail. So I'm way, way in. Give me as much Pinehurst as possible. And honestly, give me as much Bryson as possible.

It's a very fun combo. Go ahead, Rainey. You got one? Yeah, I don't even know if I eat. I was just, like, felt very real. Like, just going back to, like, this felt like a US Open. Like everything about today felt like a US Open. And I, we, we, we don't get that every year, or at least the US Open that I like, we don't get that every year. And so it was just really, gosh,

you guys, I don't know if I've smiled this much. I don't know if I've been excited this much watching a golf tournament in a long time. And it just was like, that's the US Open that I think about. It had everything. And that was a lot of fun. Yeah, I was something along the lines of, guys, that was it. Like that was it. That was it, man.

Guy Brand're talking about angles out there. You like that? Oh, they do matter. I was the tank. It was just like 10 years of talking about all this weird shit of like, yeah, that's what that's what we're fucking talking about that right there. That's why we're mad about Valhalla. Sure. Like it turns out you don't need Valhalla to have a great leaderboard and a great finish. What a shocker. Wow.

It's almost like we knew that going into this week and it's just a Lot of boxes got checked this week a lot of great drama a lot of great golf And you know, honestly, I mean we were gonna kill Rory and we'll probably continue to kill Rory for that finish and that choke but like again, I was this Piners was not screaming Rory McIlroy golf course to me and neither was LACC and you have to tip your cap for how well he's played in the last two US Open. So obviously he beat 154 guys in both of them and he didn't beat one in both of them and he didn't do what is required to do it. I'm not making excuses for him in any way. It's just that

he played freaking great golf and you just have to tip your cap to Bryson who was one freaking shot better over 72 holes. Hear hear. Yeah, yeah. And let the record, I am for Brandle getting that seat. I would love Brandle I liked him. Up in that booth. I think he says interesting things. I think he can, you love him, you hate him, but I think he is an interesting guy. Soly, you love him, you hate him, but I think he is an interesting guy. Soly, I love the podcast you did with him recently. I just, out of all the possible people, give me Brandle in that seat.

Bryson had a quote in his presser afterward. He said, if I'm gonna be quite frank, I hope we can figure things out quickly. All I wanna do is entertain. All I wanna do is entertain. I'm not gonna get this poetic of, maybe today is what brings the golf world back together. It'd be great if it was the case, but again, I made this point last night of like,

if Bryson's gonna be this big of a needle mover and 150,000 people are gonna watch the final round of live Houston. Like let's go ahead and just get everything back together. Like clearly they're doing something wrong. Like they're clearly doing something wrong if they can't pull eyeballs into watching like that guy play great golf and be this entertaining. Right. So again, if, if I common sense was driving what's going on in the pro golf world, it'd be an easy decision and it would snap your fingers and it would be done. It's obviously not. So, uh, I don't want to pretend that changes anything, but let's just go ahead

and get it figured out because this week was fantastic. I'm going to get one more until April. Do you think this split makes the majors more interesting? I think today probably was more interesting because of all that's gone on the last couple years. I think so. 100%. I think Bryson is like, I don't know. Again, I don't know how it can't be more interesting when you're just adding that much more context to all these guys. Right? Bryson has been through such a weird journey even before he left for Liv, and now you add all this stuff, right? Like, I just, Bryson has been through such a, like, weird journey even before he left for Liv, and now you add all this stuff, and he's just like,

he's just way more compelling because he went. So, I think so. Like, I think it's netted out to be a lot more interesting. Maybe for us, I would say, Randy, but I would say- At the expense of, like, I think week-to-week PJ Tour golf. Yeah, but I would say for the golf world as a whole, no. I think it makes it, I think say, Randy, but I would say. At the expense of, I think, week to week, PGA Tour golf. Yeah, but I would say for the golf world as a whole, no. I think it makes it, I think golf thrives on momentum in between the majors, right?

And I don't think it's big enough and strong enough to carry, to not be up in the news more often and talked about more frequently and just peak four times a year. I just think it, I mean, ratings have dipped in both of the first couple of majors, right? If I remember right, like, I don't think it like makes the majors bigger than they would be if everyone was together. Like they're bigger in compared to the other pro golf that's happening right now because both have taken such a big dip. But I don't think it necessarily makes the golf, you know, the major championships better. I don't think it necessarily makes the golf, you know, the major championships better. I think bigger and more interesting are two very different things though. Right? Like I agree with everything you just said. Like I don't think it's any bigger because of this

because I think it is like constantly just like shooting itself at the foot. But I think it's more interesting just because it's another layer to think about and talk about another like dimension to all these guys. Maybe initially, but do you still feel that way? Because there's so much- Right, and a fucking Crusher's hat on, and a Crusher shirt. But there's so much apathy towards that, right? There was initial hostility now,

there's such apathy amongst golf fans for this whole whatever's going on. That's where I'm at. I can't get mad at any of the Liv guys even anymore because I have such apathy for how all of it's played out. So I don't think it's driving that much interest anymore. You know what I mean? I'm not even saying it like I was sitting on my couch

being like, oh man, I hope the villain loses. I'm not saying that. I wasn't mad as hell about Liv today. I just think it's like Bryson's more interesting because he doesn't play on the PGA Tour. That's more interesting than if it was just a guy that we see week to week. I think it's like Bryson's more interesting because he doesn't play on the PGA tour. Like that's more interesting than if it was just a guy that we see week to week. Like I think it's true just like, man, I don't get to watch this guy play as much golf. So like that's interesting is more what I'm saying. I don't think it's like, yeah, rooting against him

because of like political motives. Like I think I agree. Like I think all that is kind of massively waned and dropped off. I just think it's like, Oh, it's the guy from the other tour. Huh? That's, that's another dimension. Yeah. I think major specifically, I do think there's a bit of a dimension of like, you know, when, when the Euro tour used to be really separate from the PGA tour and, and we would bring everybody together four times a year. I don't know. It would certainly help the week to week golf, but I'm not sure like, I don't know. I guess what I'm saying is like, I don't care if they get back together anytime soon. I think there's plenty going on and I think the majors are interesting.

We was also like woefully unprepared to talk about this, but report this week that, you know, the PIF, what is it, Framework 2.0 might be coming. Do we have any insight on that? Any thoughts on that? Solid, anything you're kind of thinking about there? When that came out, we talked about a little happy hour, I think this week, and I just said like, hey, when we know

what the pro golf tournaments are gonna look like, I'll be very anxious to talk about it. I think we're gonna have more agreements to agree on things and a bunch of financial mumbo jumbo, and could be wrong. It could be very wrong. Maybe we'll have some answers, but I've not talked to anyone that has any idea of what the golf tournaments are going to look like, which has got this like 99 out of the 100 things I care about when it comes to solving

this thing. So I do say just judging off of where we're at three majors in so far this year, there's certain people that are drastically benefiting from live and the schedule that they come that they're playing and others who are like just lost and I think would benefit greatly to Not saying playing a full PJ tour schedule, but like playing more events leading up like DJ He just seems like lost and he's like he still has so much left in the tank that you're like, what the fuck's going on, man? Some some has to be there and it pretty clearly is reps if we're to believe how

hard he's working and what he's grinding, you know, in South Florida on. But Bryson, you know, half of the stuff that we talked about and people give him kudos for, for change and everything else like that is because of the freedom that he has now via schedule and being able to create. And you can laugh at that as much as you want but like it's clearly something that he's very passionate about there's a ton of people that that follow him and are super into it and it's you know it's changing him. Oh it's undoubtedly has helped him greatly on a lot of different ways working on the house he brought that up like eight times this week you've been working on that house man that's. That's just why my hips are all tight and all that.

Cody, what happened on LPJ this week as we move towards wrapping here? Yeah, I just wanted to give this in here, but there was a three-way playoff this week at the Meyer LPJ Classic in Michigan. Lillia Vu ended up coming out with a dub there, beat Lexi and Grace Kim. Kind of shocking there because the last time we really heard from Lexi was her announcing her retirement at the US Women's Open. Now she put herself in a great spot. They were at 1600 total and you know, Lilia coming off the injury. Very, very excited about this now as we go into, I know everybody's kind of fatigued from live shows this week, but we got some live shows cooked up next week as we go to the KPMG PGA Championship at Sahale

Big you excited. We're gonna have preview content We're gonna do special LPGA live show and then be back again next Sunday to wrap it all up Yeah, yeah, I'm honestly I'm really excited to see Sahali again, because I don't remember a lot from the men's side when they played there. And I didn't watch the, the last KPMG that that Brooke Henderson one up there. So I've, it's a course that you hear a lot about, but should look great. It's primeetime golf and Lily a VU. I don't think it can be understated Like I was like are we gonna really see her again this year and for her to not only get a start but to win is Awesome. So it should be a great tournament next week and Cody. I'm looking forward to doing our live shows We got hopefully a few good guests we're trying to run back Jane Park and and hopefully a special friend of hers for Friday night and then we'll do our Sunday show as well. I would shout out, I know it was at the Women's US Open Friday show that they were on. Yeah.

Yeah. I would strongly strongly encourage anybody who has even a passing interest in the world of women's golf. I mean you can scroll the feed and that's probably gonna look like a midway point update in a tournament that ended weeks ago. And the beginning part of it is. I think after about, what would you guys say? The 20, 25 minute mark, it kind of turned into the best conversation on just the state

of women's golf that I've heard. So I know it's kind of buried in there, but would strongly encourage people to go back and listen to that if you missed it, because Jane was fantastic and Marina Alex was on there as well. She was awesome It's just a ton of ton of insights from players who play on the LPGA who put things into words that I had not really heard before

so Kudos to you guys. I really love that one. and I will say TC pointed out in our slack grace Kim Went into the fourth round today with a five-shot lead She she gave that up and lost in a playoff and she was there doing media afterwards. So good on her Damn it, Rory I'll say this there's been 10,000 people live in this chat right now. There's there's 8,000 people still sick of it sticking around I promise you're not all subscribing to the channel. Please subscribe throw some thumbs on the video. It helps a lot of people find it. Cody works his ass off on this stuff. We've all dedicated a lot of time for that. We thank High Noon as well. We thank

ServPro. We thank Yeti. We thank Titleist and everybody that supported the show and everybody that's tuned in live all week long. I'm moving to wrap. Anybody else have anything else before we head out? It it's been a it's been a long week it's been a while week it's been a great week I'll say this I think today makes Rory so fascinating going forward can't wait for true can't wait for next year like this as as a fan of just broadly the game, it's, can't wait to see where we go from here. And I would say, I mean, it probably goes without saying since he won the golf tournament, but, and Bryson, right? Like Bryson needs to now be in every conversation

that the top players are in ever, right? He should have probably been there anyways with some of his resurgent form, but I mean, dude, this puts him, this puts him right there. We said it last night, or two nights ago, whenever that was, whenever the golf courses get tough, Bryson, it's not like a dog and pony show. He keeps showing up at the most proper tests in the game

and doing stuff like this. So I still think Scottie is heads and shoulders above everybody else and he's going to bounce back and find his form. But man, that next tier down, like Bryce needs to be right there with all the other guys. This was awesome to watch. Justin Ray had a great stat. Bobby Jones, Jack Nicholas, Tiger Woods, and now Bryce and the only guys ever to win a

US amateur and two US opens. And it's like, if you're in that company, I don't care what the stat is. Like that is super impressive. Yeah. I can't believe I locked myself into Rory at Troon, but here we are. The start even said. You can bring it back right now if you want.

We'll let you out of it. Right now. Nah, I'll just go with it. I mean, come on. It'll be epic. Yeah, it'll make it more it. Come on, it'll be epic. Yeah, it'll make it more fun. What am I gonna pick Scotty? How fun is that? I'm off Scotty, that's Scotty has toast.

I'm off Scotty, I'll take Scotty and Truun right now. Okay, thanks again. Everyone that tunes in, these are so much fun to do. This was a highlight, highlight week, truly for all of us in our entire careers. So thanks to everyone that made that work. And we'll be back next week, live shows for KPMG Women's PGA and Travelers.

Of course, I've truned live shows coming up as well. We got Women's British Open, a lot of golf left in this year. Thanks everyone for tuning in. Happy Father's Day out there to all the dads. Oh, God. Wheels, what? God, Webb got another sponsor's invite.

Let's get out of here. We do not have time for that tonight. Thank you everyone, good night.