No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 860 - KPMG Women's PGA Friday Live Show

Episode Date: June 22, 2024

Nelly Korda shoots a shocking second round 81 to miss the cut at Sahalee at the KPMG Women's PGA. We check in live on Friday evening to chat about the tournament at the halfway point, place our auctio...n bets on the eventual winner, get some #CoverageTakes in, discuss what we've liked about Sahalee to this point, and a ton more. Support our partners: YETI Titleist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Music Better than most. Expect anything different? Ladies and gentlemen, welcome into the No Laying Up Golf podcast. My name is Randy. Joining me this evening for a live show, we're at the 36th hole mark. We're halfway through the women's KPMG PGA Championship. I have Cody McBride and Chris Solomon. Solly, I'll start with you. I know you were on a date earlier tonight. How's your Friday evening going? It's been wonderful, big.
Starting point is 00:00:52 You know, I was wondering, you and I, we went to the KPMG Women's PGA at Kemper Lakes outside Chicago. This would have been a better one to go to. I think we chose wrong on the venues for women's PGA that we attended in person. That was a tough scene in the corporate park that that location was and this place looks freaking awesome to be at in person. Yeah, yeah. Venues matter for sure. So Holly looks excellent on TV,
Starting point is 00:01:17 but let me say hi also Cody McBride. Cody, how are you on this Friday evening? Very good Mr. Big. Thank you for inviting me onto your show. I'm excited to talk about everything that's going on at Sahale. It's absolutely shining right now. But guys, you know, we need to address Nellie at some point in time. I don't know what happened to her.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Was she stuck in the cold plunge too long? Did somebody just like dump an ice bath over every single one of us who continues to pick Nelly? Because that's what her track records, you know, that's what it shows. I understand that. I understand it. And I guess I'll say you're a very brave man for sticking your neck out like that. But if, um, I don't know, this is kind of, I think back to the U S women's open and the start that Nellie had, I thought we kind of got over that yesterday. And then today, I mean, 81, I didn't really see that. And it just crazy to think about. and I feel bad for her.
Starting point is 00:02:25 I don't know. Hopefully she can enjoy some beverages tonight, keep them chilled the best that she can, hopefully in some form of Yeti Coolers because they're a presenting sponsor for all LPGA content throughout this entire year. Thank you to Yeti for presenting this live show. I want everybody to head on over to yeti.com,
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Starting point is 00:04:48 and find out which Pro V1 is right for you. We sincerely thank both Yeti and Titleist. Cody, you mentioned it. I think we start right here. Soly. Let me start the conversation with just asking this question. How can we not overreact to what we just saw from Nelly, yet also put the right emphasis on that she just shot 300 in round
Starting point is 00:05:10 one and shot 81 to miss the cut in a major championship, second straight miss cut in a major. Yeah, won the first one of the year. Like, you can sit here and say, I'd rather win one and miss every cut than finish second in all of them. Right? I think we'd all agree on that. So I don't want to treat her with kid gloves, but I also, you know, we're coming off a, you know, you won a major championship in a year. It's a successful year, but what a bizarre fall from being truly unbeatable for such a period of time
Starting point is 00:05:36 and being completely flustered in these last two majors. And again, we made all the Scotty comps all year long up to this. And it's, I mean, Scottie didn't quite hit the wall this hard at the PGA and the US Open, but it's not unsimilar of like just kind of unwinding around the same timelines. It's just remarkable the paths they've been on.
Starting point is 00:05:56 It really is. There's a lot to unpack there. I think, well, first of all, I think this is probably the most shocking round that Nellie has played this year. We kind of both tweeted at the same time, Chris. Way more shocking than the first round of hers at the US Open, which was undone by one hole and continually finding the water.
Starting point is 00:06:20 This was just a slow bleed, and it started right from from the beginning and it lasted through 17 holes. She had a tap in birdie on 18, kind of a cruel finish, honestly. Tapping in for birdie, she's going to miss the cup by one stroke. And it was just un-Nelly-like in every form and fashion. You see that we have the scorecard up on the screen, you know, four straight bogeys to start her day, a front nine 42, and a number of short miss putts. It was kind of like anything that could go wrong was going wrong. So I guess my question, if I could flip it back to you is,
Starting point is 00:07:00 do we read much into this? Is this truly like shit happens? Like this is probably her worst golfing day of the year and she just happened to pick a bad one. I'm like you, I struggle to kind of place this. This is very shocking. I wanna flag this. And again, kind of not unlike Scotty.
Starting point is 00:07:20 We'll get back to that. But her record, her last four runs at the Chevron, T2, T3, third and first. Okay, two of those were in California, We'll get back to that but her record her last four runs of the chevron t2 t3 Third and first okay two of those were in California two were at Carlton woods She has two other top fives in majors at the rotating venues and and Avion's not even a rotating venue And she has no top fives at that one, but two other top fives. That's that she won the women's PGA in 2021 She was third there in 2019. The rest of her record is astonishing, honestly. In US Women's Open she has no top fives. In this event she
Starting point is 00:07:50 has the two. None in the Evian and none of the women's British Open. And it just seems like when these things move around a little bit, she wanted to land an athletic club which is an awesome course fit for her. You and I were there for that one or I don't think you were there for that one, sorry. But as soon as I took a lap around that golf course, I was like, oh my God, the longest player is gonna win this tournament, like for sure. And she won that one.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Otherwise, she's not really been competitive in a lot of these major championship venues that rotate. I don't have a, I don't know what to put to that. I mean, what she's done this year has just been incredible on many different kinds of golf courses, like the kinds that we're looking for, hard golf courses, easy ones. And it's just, it's,
Starting point is 00:08:27 it's just worth calling out like her major champion. It's still even with the two wins, her major championship record is light for her talent. Would you guys agree with that? Yeah, yeah. Well, let me ask you this Cody, because looking at Nellie's, uh, Wikipedia page, that the one thing, Chris, I think that's a great point that you talk about her winning on hard golf courses. She won the match play at Shadow Creek, which I do think is a very hard golf course.
Starting point is 00:08:51 But obviously match play being a different beast. She's never won a tournament though, where she wasn't at least 11 under par, which I think speaks to a lot of birdies, a lot of, you know, picking apart par fives, a lot of just getting after flags. And if there's one thing I took away from our US Open happy hour last, last, what, a couple of weeks ago on that Friday night with Marina and Jane, they were just talking about how the disservice that the week to week LPGA setups do when it comes to then playing a major on a difficult golf course. And Cody, I think that's kind of what we're seeing here. And it's getting tough to ignore that with Nellie.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I'm not throwing away everything she's done. That would be silly, but I think it is worth, it's an interesting discussion if nothing else. Yeah. I don't know. I think this seems like an extremely uncomfortable golf course when you are kind of searching for a swing. And I would highlight specifically like off the tee box.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And it's funny that she mentioned that in her pre-tournament press conferences how you know kind of aggressive she was going to play and I think this is one of those things where you're kind of searching for your swing. She made some really really bad strategy decisions today and then just didn't execute the shot at all and like short-sighted herself all over the place. I mean the tall trees, I'm going to put these pictures up again that we showed in the happy hour, but as intimidating as it looks off the tee box, I know that, you know, once you get down it does open up a little bit, but if you're searching for something here or you got a little bit of the
Starting point is 00:10:41 lefts and then you're over-correcting, you have a little bit of the lefts and then you're over correcting. You have a little bit of the rights. The same thing that we saw at Chevron by the way. This is just way tighter and so much more trouble that she can get into herself. Like get in quick. I just don't think this is the place where you're really going to find it. Chris, I didn't really think about like the rotating course aspect of her record until you brought it up and you're 100% right. And we can we can highlight all these really difficult golf courses that she's won on at least this year and be like, yeah, because she's seen them a lot. The issue with what I think is going on, at least from what we saw at Lancaster and here is there's something going on prep wise where she's just not comfortable.
Starting point is 00:11:25 She doesn't find her groove and it's throwing everything off. But overall today was not just a failure of like golf swing. It was also a strategy failure and a pure like execution and shit show. But I will say she's leaving on a high note because she birded the last hole. She is. And I misspoke. Let me let me correct. She did win at Palace of Air Days earlier this year. She was nine under par.
Starting point is 00:11:49 So that was obviously a tough, tricky golf course. And I agree about, obviously you look at Sahale and I didn't scream Nelly to me, but I mean, she came out and had a great round one. And I can see 75 pretty easily being explained by like yeah if you're off a little bit here like but man 81 like I just there's four worse rounds on the golf course total today I mean Wendy Ward is a club pro here in avid Angela Stanford and Genity want us and want us, I'm not gonna keep going here.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Jody, you were shut off as well, sorry. That's it, like number one player in the world here. Like it, 81 should not be happening on a Friday in the biggest tournaments. To me, again, this is like something you're just totally projecting on her. And like there's images, I believe Meg Aggan's sweet of this looks like there's images of her in tears.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Like she's wiping her face after she's coming out of the woods on one of these holes. Like you would, it certainly looks that I don't want to again assume that. And maybe it's just, I don't know, it could be anything truly, but it looks like she's in tears, honestly coming out of one of these fairways. It seems like she's putting a massive amount of pressure on herself. Like that's just like, you don't perform like like you do week to week and then come in in these venues and and and do this. It's just it's it's stunning. It's disappointing. Just to follow up on that real quick. So Bethann just tweeted I'll put the tweets up right here but Nelly quarter shot 81 today missed the cut. She agreed to talk after
Starting point is 00:13:19 the round off to the side but was so emotional that she had to stop and start again. She said, it's just golf recently for me. No words for how I'm playing right now. A lot went my way at the beginning part of the year and just giving it back. Meaning, I'm sure just giving it all back. Which is stunning. Like it's just, everybody gets off. I know, it's just like, fuck man. It is, it's golf but it's just like. Fuck man, it is. It's golf, but it's just it's amazing for you.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Play that good and for it to hit this hard like this is hard. Yeah, yeah, so a couple things. One good on her for for speaking. That was a that was a flash point coming out of last week, so commend her for that and Cody. I go back to you know we were prepping for our preview show earlier this week, and we had pulled a few quotes, which I don't think we ended up using for the show. But I found it interesting. Nellie was asked, this was before the Meyer. So the her next start after the US Open, she would
Starting point is 00:14:16 miss the cut at the Meyer. But she was talking about there were two instances that I thought were really interesting. She talked about how she she stayed in it and she fought after making that 10 on her third hole of the US Open. And she said it was the most proud of herself that she had been on the golf course this year. I thought that was, you know, it's great to hear.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And I don't think, I really don't think Nellie like gave up on her round today, which is the craziest thing to say. It just, nothing was going right. Yeah, I think that's the most frustrating part and why you see her so emotional. It'd be way worse if she was just disinterested, right? For sure. That'd be way worse, right? That's where I'm like, I don't want to pile on. It's obviously weighing on her and I have tremendous respect for her competitive nature, but it's just mystifying more than anything. The other quote that we had pulled, she talked about
Starting point is 00:15:12 and God, if she wasn't humbled before, she's going to be humbled after this, but she talked about how she likes, in light of missing the cut at the US Open and making the 10 and all of that, she talked about how she likes when golf humbles her. And her quote was, you kind of ride the highs when it's going well, but it's nice when golf humbles you because then you know exactly what you need to work on. And so I can only hope that she can maintain that mindset. You know, this is gonna be a very, very bitter pill for her to swallow. But I do like at least what she's saying. I, you know, I think she's saying all the right stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And to your point earlier, Chris, it's just impossible to know the magnitude of winning five times in a row, winning six times early in the season, like just the pressure that builds on her and how that can compound week after week and being the focal point of attention everywhere she goes. So it's gonna be fascinating where we go from here.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Do you guys have a bet going on of how many times you can say Chris tonight, by the way? So since when? I don't know. I heard. What is going on? I heard Randy said it one time. super trooper thing going on here? It's late, you know?
Starting point is 00:16:28 I heard him say it one time and next thing you know, it's better than, you know, you know when Neil and I do this all the time on the booth, but when one person starts saying like, it seems to catch like wildfire. And unfortunately, Sully, that's what Chris has kind of turned into, but I'm gonna pivot at this point in time.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Real quick, to close it, I've reached out to one Neil Schuster for comment on the Nelly missed cut and we have not received response. Last thing I'll say on this, she's gotta find a way to not completely shoot herself in the foot on Thursday, Friday of majors. That's an important thing for major championships. If your game's not there, whatever, but you have to find something that gets you into a T25 going into the weekend that you can somewhat be competitive.
Starting point is 00:17:13 It just happens too quickly on her for Thursday, Friday and majors. Yeah. Sorry. That was a short Miss Putz day. That's what was really disappointing. Anything else on Nelly? I guess Justin Ray had a couple good little tidbits. I think Nelly, this is going to be your third miss cut in a row. I
Starting point is 00:17:32 believe that's the first time that that's happened. And then the other one, Nelly's 81 today. The highest round in a major championship by a reigning world number one since the inception of the Rolex rankings in 2006. So completely unprecedented, at least from the world's number one player. Um, I think that's, that's where we leave it. Just a shocking, shocking day for, for Nelly Corde. Um, the other big headline, let's talk about, no, let's talk about this actual leaderboard, please. Can we please talk about somebody who didn't make the,
Starting point is 00:18:05 you know, is actually in contention here? Well, let me ask you, you want to talk about Sarah Schmelzel or should we talk about Lexi Thompson? I think, we started at T74. Let's just work our way up one by one. Alexa Pano tied with T74. Tc is going to be pissed. We got Tc calling it.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Well, no, you guys tell me what, what Cody, what do you think's the bigger deal? I, It's Lexi, I think is the biggest deal now sits two back currently at 400. Sarah smells was living leading at 600, but Lexi, you know, announcing her retirement from the full time professional game. I still am kind of confused even through her quotes, how she keeps weaving in and out of what actually is going on there. But she announced that at the US Women's Open. Now she finds herself, she was the 18 hole leader, now finds herself two strikes back
Starting point is 00:18:54 at 36 holes in a great position. And it's just one of those things where it feels like, who would have thought Lexi's back near the top of the leaderboard. How long is this gonna last for? Like which Lexi's gonna show up? It's fascinating and I hope she makes it through tomorrow because it's gonna make Sunday an amazing watch. That's where I, I mean, let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Is it a bit like sick and twisted to want Lexi to be leading going into the back nine on Sunday? Like I almost feel bad rooting for that, but it's, it's the most fascinating theater. Imagine. I am pre exhausted of the discourse of if she, if she blows another opportunity and then doesn't want to talk about it. And then everyone's mad at everyone that does want to talk about it. And like, I'm already exhausted by that.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Amy Yang just stuffed it on 18 by the way, and it's going to tie the lead heading into the weekend. But yeah, it's, oh, you're not, you're exactly, you're spot on, it's amazing. Like it's, it's, it's, if you have never sat and watched, like Lexi Thompson trying to close out a major championship, it's unlike, I'm not, I'm laughing because I don't have any ill will towards Lexi.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I don't root against her. I would like to see her just slam the door on one of these things, but it is just fascinating to watch an incredibly talented player wilt in a way that I can't recall any other professional golf men or women that have ever watched wilt the way she does. I mean, it's in different fashion every time. Chip Yip's at the KPMG Women's PGA Congressional.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Olympic was just a slow car crash. I don't know how many other examples there are off the top of your guys head of this happening, but dude, it is so tough. She does not have the clutch gene. And like, to this point, maybe she can change it all this weekend. Maybe she can, maybe she has a newfound perspective.
Starting point is 00:20:40 I'm very, very enthralled to watch it though, because man, it is just absolutely wild theater. So the biggest, you named a couple, the biggest kind of Lexi giveaways at majors. So let me just start with a couple stats. So Lexi, she won the 2014 Chevron Championship. It's her only major of her career. She's an 11 time LPGA winner.
Starting point is 00:21:03 But since that 2014 Chevron, she's got 16 top tens in majors. She's got 11 top fives in majors and she's got four runner-ups at majors. Now, Tali, you mentioned the 2022 KPMG where she started the day three shots back of Inji Chun, but gained the lead, made four bogeys on the back nine, missed a couple short putts, finished one shot behind Inji there. You mentioned the 2021 U.S. Women's Open at Olympic Club where she had a five-shot lead on Sunday at one point, I believe on the eighth hole of the day,
Starting point is 00:21:41 doubled 11, bogeyed 14, bogeyed 17 and 18 to miss the playoff by one shot there. Uh, but then you go back to the 2019 US women's open began the final round, one shot back to the lead. And quickly gave that one away, played the first four holes, three over, um, eventually finished tied for third. The big one, I think, and this is the craziest one, is the 2017 Chevron where she had a rules infraction
Starting point is 00:22:11 from the prior day. So her third round, she marked the ball, she moved her mark and she never moved the mark back. Now she misplaced it back. She kind of was accused of moving it closer to the hole, but she didn't place it back in the right spot. And she got caught in the streets at the time. You know, that's happening across every tour. I don't blame her. Yeah. But they stroked her on her 12th hole on Sunday
Starting point is 00:22:34 with a two shot lead. They stroked her four shots for two shot lead. What are we doing? Yeah. She did birdie the 72nd hole that day to get into a playoff, but then lost on the first playoff hole. So I don't even know if that's a choke. That's just like, holy shit, I can't believe you, you know, stroke somebody for it during the final round. So I, I'm, I'm really rooting for Lexi to be right there just because I have no idea what will happen come Sunday. Cody, do you want her to win the damn thing? Come on. I was going to say, do you buy into like the retirement freeing her up? Because she's talking about how she's freed up. Well, maybe freed up.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I don't know what she's freed up to move moving over to somewhere else. Like we we don't you know, she has a new app coming out I think Lexi Fit we're gonna add that to Lexi Skin. She could potentially be the the future commissioner of whatever future global tour there is on the women's side. I don't know there's a lot of stuff going on around about Lexi but I will say since we really started diving in and and when she was at the lowest at point last year and I'll continue to give him props, but when she started working with the Dew Sweeper, something clicked. And it's just kind of, she hasn't been like, and it's so hard too, we're seeing this with
Starting point is 00:23:53 Nelly right now, but she hasn't had this like, you know, months and months and months of prolonged really good play. She just finds these hot streaks. And I don't know what she's going to do when she finally does retire because she honestly talks about like going out and hitting balls for six, seven, eight hours a day and just grinds away at it. Um, leading up to this, she missed the cut at Chevron. Um, she must've cut at what she didn't know. She didn't play founders.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Uh, I missed three cuts in a row miss missouho miss the u.s women's open and then last week i'll say the one thing that's different is that you know she usually has one of her brothers on the bag caddying for and this week she has a new caddy mark wallington they actually started working last week in at myer close friend i think this is something that uh down it i don't know if it's trombone Palm beach or wherever else, but I think he's a, uh, guy that hangs out around there and like, they seem to have found something and she was in really good form last week and said, she went, you know, came
Starting point is 00:24:55 over here and was in really good spirits and had great feelings from this golf course. And I don't know, it just kind of. It kind of sets up for Lexi, you know? It's big, she kind of can push it around a little bit and use her distance to her advantage here. And she's not wild is the thing. She hits it far, she's not wild.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Like she's very accurate. I don't have the numbers in front of me, you know, on that. But she's, for her length, she's a very accurate player. It's all short game. The thing with her is that, again, we'll talk like when it comes down to to Sunday is if she ends up leaving herself, some of these delicate little chips and it's just like, oh, no, that that's the issue is that when nerves creep up like her,
Starting point is 00:25:40 her short game and not even really like her putting completely like it just goes haywire. And man, I, I know that makes great theater, but to have her win this championship would be really, really cool. Either way it's well. Yeah. And I guess the natural question, if she were to win Cody, which would be on everybody's mind would be, will you've announced your retirement, would this change anything? I was glad Bethann Nichols actually asked her that exact question after her first round yesterday.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I think we have that clip up here. When a big title and potentially change your mind about the whole full-time thing. I figured I'd be getting that question. But I'm just taking it one day at a time. You know, I made my announcement. I'm very content with it.
Starting point is 00:26:31 You know, golf is a crazy game, so I'm not going to look too far ahead. I'm just going to take it one day at a time and see what it takes me. She's still being super coy. I knew that question. I can't figure out, Cody, to your point, retiring from full-time golf, there's a little vagueness there about, I think everybody thinks she will play.
Starting point is 00:26:57 It's a matter of when and where and what tour maybe, and even her answer there, it's, I don't know, we'll take it one day at a time. So could be something to watch for, uh, come Sunday afternoon. Uh, Chris, to your point, I'll say her stats this week. She is, or Sally, uh, she's second in approach shots, gained approach total through two rounds and she's 15th and putting, so she's got a, a
Starting point is 00:27:24 good formula going right now, but Cody, as you said, the short game and the putting specifically is kind of the bugaboo when the pressure gets turned up. So I can't wait. It's going to be a fascinating next 36 holes for Lexi. But I think we're about a half hour in. We should probably talk about the leader. I saw Amy Yang just tapped in. So she's joined Sarah Schmelzel now at 600 par. So Amy Yang, Sarah Schmelzel will be here, 36 whole leaders. Amy Yang of course won the, she's never won a major, but she did win the tour championship last year, has won before on the LPGA Tour.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Sarah Schmelzel has never won on the LPGA Tour. And in fact, her best ever finish in a major is tied for 14th. So I don't know, you guys tell me, is this would normally be something I'd be like, I don't think we really got to worry about her being around on the weekend. I don't know if you feel similarly or not though. This is where if we, on the men's side, if we were doing the daily shows, I would say, look, if Sarah Schmozell's still here tomorrow night, we'll give her all the due. We will give her the full run,
Starting point is 00:28:29 we will, you know, full mea culpa here. You know, there's a lot of 36-hole leaders. I don't want to immediately discount her, but she's got a lot of names right behind her that have major championship pedigree that I think are more likely. But we're gonna do an auction a little bit later. We're gonna do the same auction we did for the U.S. Open last week
Starting point is 00:28:46 where we're going to get $10 each to buy up, try to buy up the winner. Your boy won that one. But we'll see exactly how much faith we have in Sarah Schmelzel here in a few minutes. Yeah. Big week for her. She's 12th in the Solheim standings right now for the U.S. squad. And I will say that this is her best year on tour today. She's got four top tens and 13 starts before this week. Uh, she's 30 years old. Like I said, has never won a major, let alone has no LPGA titles. Um, so we'll, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I'm, I'm like you, Chris, if. If we were doing the show tomorrow and she was still there, I feel like we could really get into it. But maybe she proves me wrong. I'd be shocked if she won it. I'll say that. Cody, what do you think? Yeah. I mean, she has a ton of top tens so far this season. It seems like she either top tens or she misses the cut. So she got the first step done here. But we'll see. It's big time position. She had never been in this spot before. I don't know. I mean, if you look at the leaderboard, talk about some thorough reds that are, you know, trying to chase her down. Amy has so many, so many top tens been doing this for a long, long time. Jin Young-co, we haven't even talked about yet. Hanaka, Leona, I mean, it's, it, this is going to be a really,
Starting point is 00:30:06 really good weekend and we'll, we'll see what Sarah Smasel has in her tank, see if she can keep up. Yeah, I think even absent Nelly Korda, this is a wonderful leaderboard. Let's, let's get into it in, in just a sec, but, but let me switch gears a little bit. Cody, what are overall impressions on Sahale? Talk to me about the golf course. Do we like it as a major venue? What if so?
Starting point is 00:30:35 What have you like specifically about it? Yeah, I love it. I mean, it's in first. It's different. But I mean, it's golf in the Pacific Northwest, when I think of everything that Washington State has to offer, it's, you know, big, beautiful trees and, and lush green grass, I would say that the only thing that that kind of shocked me was early
Starting point is 00:30:59 week, kind of how soft it is, we can see it starting to firm up a little bit. I know we talked to LC a little, and she was, you know, had mentioned like, you know, if you're landing your ball in the front of the green, like it really takes like a big bounce and then kind of rolls out. But if you just happen to land in the aprons, the aprons are still very, very soft. So they're just kind of plugging and stopping there. So they're trying to get that same consistency throughout the rest of the course and hopefully that's what happens the rest of the weekend. But it's drying out. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I mean, I think so far it's producing one heck of a leaderboard. And I know that that's not the best, you know, comp for a good course, but overall setup, I mean, if you hit it in the rough, you can still advance your ball unless you're absolutely dead and like blow it completely wide. But when we talk about putting yourself in the right position in order to attack these certain like not only greens, but pin locations, it brings like a whole nother level of strategy into it that we do not see on the LPGA tour. And I absolutely love it. Yeah, I really want to see this place in person.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Like it's just, you know, it's wild to watch on television. I'm not positive, like the golf is the most entertaining golf ever, but it's like, of course I can't take my eyes off of it. Like I've just never seen trees like that on a golf course and something that narrow yet not play overly claustrophobic to the point where it's not entertaining it just I don't know I need to see the weekend right I need to see how these holes play it is wild to see how firm this place is playing
Starting point is 00:32:35 compared to yesterday especially I mean I don't know how they grow grass in all in between all these trees much less get it firm in that climate I really don't understand that but it's quite quite impressive. The only thing is like it's got to be hard and again that's kind of why I want to see it in person. It's got to be hard to feel some like connectivity between some of these holes and like some of the things we you know we said are really cool about Pinehurst as you can see the other holes you hear noise from other holes and this is all so siloed with so many trees. Kind of a minor critique I guess of the golf course but you know it it I still still I still need to see through the course of the weekend I think it's like a it's you know slight positive in the positive but I
Starting point is 00:33:18 wish it was more in prime time this weekend which is not there not the golf course's fault. We want to talk about the broadcast but let's circle back to the leaderboard. Now that Amy Yang is in the house, just to let people know, like I said, Amy Yang, Sarah Schmelzel, tied for first, six under par. There's a group of three women, Lexi Thompson, Jin Young Ko, Hanako Shibuno, at four under par, they're all tied for third.
Starting point is 00:33:39 And then at three under par, you have Leona McGuire, Miyu Yamashita, Haeran Ru, couple of very talented young Asian players at two under, Allie Ewing, who made a Sunday charge at the US Open, Madeline Saxstrom, that's one I'd love to circle back on. I think this course just suits her so well. And then tied for 11th, one under par, you have Charlie Hall, you have Celine Boudier, you have Maya Stark, Steph Kiriakou, Aileen Crowder, Lauren Hartledge, and Lindsay Weaver-Wright. Those are all the women under par through 36 holes.
Starting point is 00:34:15 So I guess Jin Young Ko's probably the biggest name there. I think, you know, if we're looking at favorites, I don't have our friends at Fandl, I don't have updated odds, but I would have to think maybe Jin Young-Ko is the favorite there, sitting tied for third, she shot a 68 today. But then also Hanako Shibuno, she seems to play really well at majors. Either really bad or really good. Like there's not a lot in between for her.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Yeah, she's one of the few women under par both rounds. She's gone 70, 70. And then Leona McGuire, somebody that because of her Solheim reputation, she's been an absolute killer at the Solheim Cup, has not had as much success week to week on the LPGA Tour and has not won a major yet. I think she's a very, very interesting name
Starting point is 00:35:08 there sitting at three under. So what do you, should we just get into the auction? I feel like we can kind of- Let's do it. Yeah, we can have a lot of discussion on who we like and who we don't like through the auction. So- Odds are locked everywhere. I was trying to find them for you,
Starting point is 00:35:23 beg the odds are everywhere I've looked. Their odds are locked right now. I didn't know if that was just me. That's been weird all week. They've, I don't know what's going on. They may just not have as much as, as a refined live scoring, uh, you know, on this that I don't know. I bet that's right. Uh, all right. So we're going to play an auction game. We played this Friday of the U S open and, uh, we had fun doing it. So Cody, Sally and I, we each have $10 to allocate to players on the leaderboard. We're going to take turns nominating a player with a dollar amount. And then the other two guys can either eclipse that by one dollar increments or the person nominating gets the player. So as the unofficial master of ceremony here,
Starting point is 00:36:08 Solly, I'm gonna let you nominate the first player. I'm gonna nominate Madeline Sagstrom for $2. Just cause you know I like her and you're trying to empty my bank account. I'm gonna go three. Dang. Sold. You gotta go quick in this game.
Starting point is 00:36:29 This will take too long. You gotta go quick if you wanna bid. All right, Cody, you nominate. I'm gonna go, let's see, with Leona McGuire for $2. Mind. Got it. Nick, go ahead. Yeah, I'm not going to fight you.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I'm going to go Jin Young Ko for three. I'll take four. All right, I think Chris gets her for four. Let's go, baby. I am going to take Maya Stark for one. Two. All right, Cody gets.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Maya Stark, I'm trying to look at her starts. God, yeah, Cody can have her. You can call a timeout. If you really feel like you wanna put to put a hold on it you can call you get two timeouts how about that we'll add that rule okay no no i'll let it go i'll let it go give it to cody cody's up uh lexi for one lexi for one i can't put two i'll take her for two. I'll take her for two. Oh, uh, Lexi for three. Oh my God. There's no way I'm going for, so she's all yours. Perfect. Wow.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Um, all right. I, I, that's interesting. I actually really liked this one. I'm going to go to Charlie Hall for three. Take her. All right. Cody for three. Take her. All right. Cody, nothing? All yours. I think that's more money than I. Yeah, I don't think he can.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Yeah, Cody's only got $3 left. I got three bucks. I got six left. Randy's got four. Cody's got three. I will take, let's go, I'll take Allie Ewing for one. I'd like, I'm gonna take her for two.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Wow. Yeah. All right. All right, so Rainey has $2 left. Cody only has $3 left. How about Allie Ewing? I'm well positioned. Hey Ranru for one.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I'll take it for two. Got her. Randy, you're up. Let's see, I might have to go deep down here. What do I have? $2 left. I'll go $1 on. Let's get a little deeper into the board. Gosh, sitting there at one over par. The one over par group guys is really good. Alison Corpuz, Brooke Henderson,
Starting point is 00:39:25 Aria Jutanagaran, Liliavu. Liliavu for one. You got it. We're not going to fight you there. All right. I will take. I will take Hinaka Shibuno for Cody. I will take her for one. I was gonna say, I think you just need one. Go ahead. I got her?
Starting point is 00:39:56 Amy Yang for one. Let's go. Amy Yang for one's a nice one. That's nice value right there. Unless Solly wants a trumpet. Yeah, I'm not letting that happen. I'll take her for two. I only have one dollar left. Cody's got two and Randy has one. And Randy's up. I'm up. Give me, we might have to go deep again. I'll go Celine Boudier for one. Okay. Two. Oh Cody. Cody's done which means I will
Starting point is 00:40:29 take Sarah Schmelzel for one dollar and Randy who do you want for the last pick? I would like... Theoretically I have one dollar left. Oh I'm sorry then you're up. But you have you... no you do that. I'm sorry you're up. I'm sorry, then you're up. But you have, you, no, you do, I'm sorry, you're up. I'm sorry, yeah, you are up. You have $1 left. Sorry, your pick. Nobody can outbid you so you get the pick. Steph Kariak.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Okay, Randy, who's the last pick? I'm gonna use my last one on Patty Tavatana Kit. She's currently even par, but has really nice tee to green. Chuck loves Seattle. Looking for houses right now. Gonna buy a property. That's how much she loves the Pacific Northwest.
Starting point is 00:41:12 All right. Is that right? Yep. The teams go, I have Jin Young Ko, Hey Ran Yu, Hanaka Shibuno, Amy Yang and Sarah Schmelzel. Cody has Leona McGuire, Maya Stark, Lexi Thompson, Celine Boudier, Steph Kiriakou,
Starting point is 00:41:26 Randy has Madeline Sagstrom, Charlie Hall, Allie Ewing, Lilia Vu, Patty Tavitannikid. All right, I like that. I absolutely love my team, guys, come on. Anybody getting big time disrespected? I guess Miu Yamashita is probably the biggest disrespect. She's three under. TC can have her, how about that?
Starting point is 00:41:45 God, Pooch is gonna be so pissed. And I should say Lauren Hartledge birdied her 18th hole. So she's now in that two under group tied for ninth. Nobody selected her. All right, can we do, can we do, I don't wanna spend a lot of time here. Can we do a couple minutes on the broadcast? I just have some frustration.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Hit them with it. Um, I, okay. So a couple of things, one solid, you mentioned we're not going to be finishing in prime time this weekend. Uh, maybe we can chalk it up to the Olympics, whatever the cause it sucks. Uh, we're, we're going to be finishing at, you know, 7 PM Eastern time. So 4 PM local time. But I think more than that,
Starting point is 00:42:25 I was just watching the golf today. Cody, tell me if you disagree, tell me if any of this is unfair. A couple of things. One, I just want to know if people, if they found the Thursday, Friday coverage on Golf Channel, did it feel like a major championship? Did it feel like honestly,
Starting point is 00:42:44 one of the three biggest women's stroke play events a year? And I would put US Open 1, I'd put AIG Women's Open 2, and I'd probably put the KPMG number 3. I just found watching the coverage, there's a complete dearth of graphics. Did you see any shot tracers? Did you see any? I saw a couple on the back half. There were a couple. Like a wing graphic? Did you see any shot tracers? Did you saw a couple at the, like on the back half, there were a couple.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Did like a wing graphic. Did you see any wing graphics? Did you see, you know, they, they had a lot of cool shit at Pinehurst about the green sizes and the slopes or, you know, I didn't see him profile hardly any holes. You don't have a sense for the slopes on the greens. It just, I don't know. It bothers me that, that these two days, it feels like any other,
Starting point is 00:43:27 really it feels like any other LPGA broadcast. And I think that sucks. I don't know if I'm off base there though. Of course you're not off base. I just wanna reemphasize the NBC Golf Channel, use the phrase, like called Nellie Korda the Caitlin Clark of golf, and then did not broadcast any of her round of
Starting point is 00:43:47 golf in a major championship on a Thursday. Like the her word, their words, Caitlin Clark of golf, they are also in charge of broadcasting the Caitlin Clark of golf and chose not to put her on anywhere, any of their platforms. We have streaming on Peacock, we have NBC, we have Golf Channel. We have CNBC. We have USA We have featured groups are on the USGA site for major championships and we could not watch her play golf in round one Like yeah, what the hell are we doing here? Checking a box like it's just totally checking a box right and KPMG assumes a shitload of the expense for this thing I assume I mean they put up a massive amount of money for the purse we've seen what they've done to grow
Starting point is 00:44:28 this event over time I I don't know the specifics of this please if somebody from NBC or golf channel would correct me on this if I'm wrong almost positive they're paying for on an hour by hour basis of the on the coverage this week like if any extra hours are to be broadcasted it's on KPMG to put up more money which it shouldn't be and I I know, understand, I know all the costs of another hour of television cost. I know all that. It's just like, it just, it's a shame. Like they call this, you know, they're going to call this a major championship and just put this fourth, this fourth TV, this TV effort, no graphics, no music, no, no single change. Uh, it's like, it's really sad. It's just
Starting point is 00:45:04 really unfortunate. And then to add to it, right? You got all of that. You got the Travelers Championship, the signature event going on in Connecticut this week, which was on Golf Channel up until that 6 p.m. Eastern time slot. Well, I don't know what time exactly
Starting point is 00:45:23 play got suspended in Connecticut, but there was terrible weather. And you would think, you know, Golf Channel, you're going to switch to the KPMG at 6 PM Eastern anyway. The Travelers is in a rain delay. Maybe we should show the women's major going on, but Golf Channel instead, and it's because of contracts. I had a guy who's working the KPMG this week flat out tell me it's literally because of contracts. They show a replay of the first round of the Travelers because they have to get their contractually obligated six commercial breaks an hour, 18 total over three hours. There's just zero flexibility to be nimble, right? And adjust
Starting point is 00:46:08 on the fly where you have a wonderful women's major going on on a cool course, the weather's great, the leaderboard's great, and yet we're seeing first round replay of the Travelers. It just like stuff like this, I know we harp on it a lot, but it's just, there are just more data points and it's like, I just can't let it slide. I have to kind of vent somewhere. Two things on that, like the two really shitty things about that big are, well, yeah, yeah. Like there's a contract, like of course it has to be this way.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Like, no, it doesn't fucking have to be this way. It takes two people to sign a contract for a contract to be binding. Somebody decided that this was the way they were gonna structure their product. That's how we ended up here, that's one. And two, Randy, it took somebody pointing this out for me to have noticed it.
Starting point is 00:46:56 At no point did I think they would actually even do that, actually preempt a replay of the Travelers for the KPMG Women's PGA. I'm so programmed at this point I was like, no, of course they didn't put it on like why would they why would they put on? Do you understand a contract, you know random Twitter person writing into us about this? What's like shit? Are we that beaten down by all this that we don't even that we're like accepting these explanations as being rational and
Starting point is 00:47:20 God, it's just the state of state of golf in the NBC world, man. Randy, I was trying to get fired up with you earlier, but it's always talking about are we that down? Are we have beaten down? It honestly it reminds me so much of like, yeah, I'm going to show up like, you know, 10 minutes early to my doctor's appointment at 10 a.m. right. You know, it don't matter because that doctor isn't walking through that door till 11 dog. You know, it doesn't matter what else is going on there. We got the dick sporting
Starting point is 00:47:51 goods open going on as another big dick event. Channel can't move this stuff around. What I am surprised that and I talked about this in our preview podcast, I think in happy hour as well is that I want to give her the benefit of the doubt, but I'm pretty sure that at some point in time, they must have discussed the streaming options specifically for this tournament. And Molly felt comfortable enough that she did not use her ESPN plus buys here. ESPN plus buys here because it's shocking that, uh, we do not have the ESPN plus feature group coverage when the, the broadcast times are as bullshit as they currently are, uh, in order to prep for this podcast, actually went back to last year and listened to our 36 hole show then.
Starting point is 00:48:40 And obviously we're all hot and saw it was, you know, spitting out facts and talking about contracts and all this other stuff. And today I sat there watching it and I'm like, man, I could literally just cut up that live show and we could just play it out here. And like, it's the same, you know? I remember last year Solly's like, what do you mean guys?
Starting point is 00:49:00 Last year this tournament was only on TV for 16 hours. Now they're up to 18 hours or whatever it is how can you not be happy and I'm like well because there there's a lot you know regardless of her score today there's a lot writing on watching these players and having things available and I think the biggest craziness to me is even when we don't have the streaming option available, like before Peacock comes on, I'm pretty sure that that NBC tells not only the tournament social channels, but also the tour social channels that there's not like there's only
Starting point is 00:49:38 shots specific shots that they're allowed to show. Because it just blows my mind that either the LPGA, either of their social handles or the actual tournament social handles wasn't out there literally of like Nelly on one, Nelly on two. Oh yeah, they definitely can't do that. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:56 It's their fucking tournament. But do you know why? It's their league and no one's ever gonna see that. For sure, I get it. The contract, Cody. I get it, but at some point in time, it has to be, you have to be met a little bit. I'm not even saying halfway.
Starting point is 00:50:13 This isn't a you start walking your way, I'll start walking mine. There's no meeting in the middle here. We understand that because that paper don't lie, man. That didn't make it a one. Hell yeah it is. Damn, fuck yeah. But it's just, if you care and you're
Starting point is 00:50:28 serious about how much you're telling us that you care, there has to be something that changes. And I don't know what the final like nail in the coffin is going to be because this is it. And you're right, Solly, two people have to sign a contract here. Unfortunately, it wasn't even the LPGA Tour who signed this contract because they let the PGA Tour negotiate on their behalf. PGA Tour is the signature event opposite it. And there's also a live event this week.
Starting point is 00:50:57 And I will say, like, I wanna put some blame on the PGA of America because you saw at the US Women's Open that that truly was like NBC's best effort. put some blame on the PGA of America because you saw it, the U S women's open that, that, that truly was like NBC's best effort. That felt like the biggest event in women's golf. And the dirty little secret is, it's cause the USGA is paying a lot of money to NBC to get
Starting point is 00:51:16 all of that extra coverage and to have it look that good. And I just think the PGA of America, again, I said it in the preview show, if you're a national organization That has women you have men you have a men's championship. You have a women's championship It's it's incumbent on you to try to make those championships as equitable in appearance Form and fashion as possible and I feel like there's more that the PGA could do So Seth was we got a we we gotta do a little better.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Last year at the Solheim Cup, I talked to a very, very, very high ranking person in the PGA of America, specifically about this championship. And I brought up, I said, the NBC Peacock Golf Channel was an absolute disaster shit show. And he said, Cody, we've tried everything we can to get
Starting point is 00:52:05 out of that contract and to move it to somewhere else to move it to ESPN to move it to CBS to find someone else. They will not NBC will not let go of this contract without us paying extra like an extremely high penalty on it because it goes against everything. Every catchphrase or memo or whatever that they want to put out there that they provide the premier coverage for the biggest championships in women's golf. Right. Somebody else put in the memo that, hey, we all think this fucking sucks. Like somebody else include that in the memo. Like seriously, because it's such a- It's the same thing. The same PGA of America. When they're at one point in time, last fall, Stacey and the LPGA Tour tried to be like,
Starting point is 00:52:52 Hey, PGA of America, the Solon Cup, we have a disaster on our hands coming up in Spain. The next week you guys are in Italy, is there something? Can you help us here? And they came in, remember, at the very last second and tried to do some negotiating on behalf and they just, they would not budge. It will not budge.
Starting point is 00:53:11 All right, we can leave it there unless you guys have anything else. I just, you know, I don't know whether to tweet this stuff like every way it just becomes like. Here's a different angle on this. And like for companies that are extremely socially aware, the bigger the company, the more socially aware you have to be, right?
Starting point is 00:53:33 At some point, don't you just have to print out a paper, like here's what we do for the men's side and here's what we do for the women's, and how badly we're shortchanging the women's game? And from a dollars and cents standpoint, it's really easy to say, well, the ratings are this on the women's side the ratings are this on the men's side Here's where all the money is and there's no money on the women's side all that blah blah blah, but like If you like look at this beyond just dollars and cents it is very very very clearly like favoring only on the men's side and like
Starting point is 00:54:03 Completely shortchanged the women's side to the point where the cycle can't ever start of like giving it the proper attention to get the eyeballs on it, to get it and get more natural attention on it, to get the eyeballs on it, to get the buzz that are needed for us to have like inside, I can't make a joke about anything that happened this morning because I didn't see any of it.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Like there's no context, I can't talk about it. How are we supposed to like support these events if we can't see it? Like I don't talk about it. How are we supposed to like support these events if we can't see it like I don't Mr.. Vanager was there we're gonna have to be he's gonna send us an envelope an invoice for the week sure coverage like invoice like thousands of people he was the eyes and ears for everybody I hope you know he's Big check if all the fans can't see it though. It's just all for nothing man. It's it's if again, maybe it's it's just all for nothing man it's it's uh if again maybe it's it's i view cody i'm sure
Starting point is 00:54:47 you view it differently as well like i as the as the as the dad of a daughter and understanding like the pot the the true capability of growth on the women's side of golf just in participation just like truly talking participation which is what we're talking about when it comes to pj of america like those are the people that are in charge of the participation of men and women and boys and girls all across the country. Like that's the, that's like goal of like the program to like shortchange this event this badly. It gets really frustrated. Yeah. Uh, you're, you're right. It is very close. I mean,
Starting point is 00:55:20 yesterday when the girls came home, the first thing that they asked was, where's Nellie? Why isn't she on TV? I'm like, well, she played this morning. We'll be able to watch her tomorrow. But we came back today, they're like, why is Nellie, like what's happening? And where's Rose?
Starting point is 00:55:35 I'm like, I don't know, girls. And you know who deserved that was NBC. They deserve for non-televised 69 for Nellie and a televised 81. That's exactly what they deserve. Yeah. I don't know. Well, there are other things though, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:51 I understand. So you bring it up and the, the, the argument is made all the time of like, oh, the numbers aren't there, but like LPGA tours never have even been given a, a fair chance to have a conversation about ratings because the networks that they're on, they'll never give them an actual equal shot to go head to head against anything. So what do you expect?
Starting point is 00:56:18 And if we're going to continue to treat it like a loss leader, then it's just going to be a normal loss leader. And I don't know, it sucks. Sucks to be a girl dad but it just sucks to be like a fan of golf and to see these, you know, women who are the top of their absolute sport who travel the world and it's awesome that purses and everything go up and I don't want to take any money away from that. But at some point in time, like, we got to do something about this coverage because the bottom is going to come out and companies are no longer going to want to put this $10 million up because the return is just not there. And I'm not articulating this very well, but the overall point of just like blinking lights, like honestly, SSG should see this as an opportunity as well in terms of like getting young girls and females more
Starting point is 00:57:07 involved in golf is where the growth is gonna come from in the next wave, 100%. Like they got the COVID boom for, you know, that's predominantly men the COVID boom came from. But if you want any more growth to this game beyond the professional game, it's gonna come from the women's side. And there's so much fricking opportunity.
Starting point is 00:57:24 And they are seeing growth. Like that's the thing is like, there's going to come from the women's side. There's so much fricking opportunity. And they are seeing growth. Like that's the thing is like there's been tremendous participation growth largely driven by the females. So of course. Yeah. I remember we, no, they have to comment. We're making commentary for Elmauw Productions and ESPN. We did.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Yes. All, all disclaimers apply here. Um, I didn't want to shut there. No, there, there, there are a couple of positives. So we do have Shotlink or Champcast or whatever you want to call it. That is an improvement from last year to this year. That's of course brought to you by T-Mobile. Unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:57:57 This crap is so suffocating. Unfortunately, I don't think that the cool T-Mobile quad box cameras that we got at Valhalla are going to quite make their way over to Sahale. That might be a good thing. So who knows there, but I don't know. It is a very good question, I would say, is when they're signing these companies up, I guess for the championships, do they actually, you think they go through and they say, okay, if you're providing this for the PGA Championship,
Starting point is 00:58:31 you're also equal to the KPMG. And I just don't think that that's actually happening at all. This tournament here is ran through an agency. It's actually not even ran through the PGA of America. We're very, very lucky that we're 10 years into this now and it's no longer the LPGA championship, it's actually the KPMG PGA wins championship, but you know, there's still a long way to go and I guess I would say I think over time, like ratings are going to continue or either stay at this plateau or continue to get worse
Starting point is 00:59:07 because more and more people are leaving actual TV and looking for other options and somebody in golf is gonna wake up and I don't know if that's SSG or who knows what but I think eventually I hope because if not this professional game like all of this money is gonna go away. Well, and it's just again, worth shouting out, like KPMG has like saved this event, right? It was a $2.2 million purse, I believe, when they took it over and it's, what is it this year? It was 10 million last year, I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:59:37 10.4. 10.4 million dollars this year. Like they have brought this event to life. Like as a former nine year employee of KPMG, I salute you for, listen, maybe there was maybe too much money going to the marketing, you know, sponsorship budget, not enough to your associates and senior associates. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:59:54 I support it. They've done an amazing job at this event, and I feel for them in terms of what they're getting out of their broadcast partner. Well, the true sickos that are hanging out with us is late on a Friday night. I mean, NASA, Hataoka, miscut, didn't really see that coming after a you know, really good past couple of weeks, Andrew Lee.
Starting point is 01:00:20 And which is a bummer NASA was like very much in contention for an Olympic spot. So that was, you know, big, big deal for her for the Olympics. Sorry, Cody stepped on your toes there. Andrea Lee, uh, same miss the cut. Just some notable miss cuts besides Nellie. Uh, the, the one I got to apologize for Megan Kang did not see Megan Kang being plus 13 after, after two rounds out here. Um, so yeah, those, those are some of your
Starting point is 01:00:47 disappointing MCs. Let me ask you guys, how far back? Too far back because you look at, I talked about some of the notables at plus one, Lilia Vu, Lauren Coughlin, Alison Corpuz, Brooke Henderson, Ayaka Fudeway, they're all at plus one. Minji Lee's at plus two, Lynn Grant's at plus three, Ronnie Yin, Rose Zhang, Lydia Ko. Okay, okay, okay Minji Lee's at plus two. Lynn grants at plus three. Ronnie Yen, Rose saying Lydia. Co. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Okay. Okay. Plus two, a tie plus two is two plus four. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think it's a little deeper. I could see somebody here in this plus one.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I mean, if they go out, shoot a 67, 66, I just don't know how much easier the course is going to get. You know, I feel like, like I said, we haven't had two rounds in the sixties through two days. I feel like unless they make a concerted effort to really ease it up, I'm thinking probably sixty sevens around to the day tomorrow. So yeah, I don't know. I guess what I'm saying is I'm still counting all the plus ones in it.
Starting point is 01:01:44 That's what I'm saying. Plus ones are in it. Plus twos are not. That's what that guess what I'm saying is I'm still counting all the plus ones in it. That's what I'm saying. Plus ones are in it, plus twos are not. That's what that's where I'm at. I thought you were arguing with the pig. Yeah. You wanted to go further down. I was talking to myself in circles. I would really like some of those four overs to still be in it.
Starting point is 01:01:57 I just don't think it's going to happen. All right. What else we got to do before we get out of here? Late on a Friday. Saul, you got a a travelers update for us Just I mean many people are pointing out the young Tom Kim the global superstar and young phenom is in the lead at minus 13 through through he has finished 36 holes, I don't believe they finished this afternoon. Listen, I was out partying tonight. I was on
Starting point is 01:02:24 I was the you're the wrong guy to throw that. I did not throw this. There's a live update on the on the agenda here. You know, I didn't put that in there. So this must have been Cody that put this in the agenda. I did not either that I think that was the big guy. Whoa, Bryson. Well, you know, my guy Bryson, I got to check on my crushers. The crushers are in second, they're four shots back of fireballs, I guess. A Bans shot a seven under, he leads by one. They did finish the second round this afternoon, I did not notice that. Tom Kim leaves over Morikawa, Akshay and Scottie Scheffler.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Scottie Scheffler two back, he's plus 180 to win the tournament, of course. Going into the weekend, he's probably gonna win that by four or five. Where's my Cantlay play at? Oh, he's T12, okay, Cantlay could still win with Scottie, or finish second with Scotty When he's jt making birdies again, who would have thought tj tour man pga tour from the majors. Oh, oh easy, man
Starting point is 01:03:13 so All right, are you gonna win live update or what? Hey, I gave it he gave it. Yeah, I thought you're gonna go down there leader leaderboard. They only care about team stuff Well, yeah, that's the fireboard. They only care about team stuff. Oh yeah, that's the fireballs. They're only 33% of the way through the tournament, Cody. It's not even the halfway point. God, you see Big's guy fill out their line dancing?
Starting point is 01:03:35 So sick. Welcome to the future of golf. They literally did the flash mob. It was like, okay, hold my beer. Like we can up the game on this flash mob. Let's keep going. The dance, it's absolutely killing it with the fans right now.
Starting point is 01:03:50 All right, Cody, get us, what else? That's, oh no, I want to hear everybody's pick to win. So coverage tomorrow, I'll give you some time to think. Broadcast tomorrow, we have, it's fun. We're going on three different platforms. We got one to three Eastern on Peacock. You got three to six Eastern on NBC and nothing like finishing a Saturday night of a major championship, six to eight Eastern on Golf Channel. And then Sunday's 12 to 3 p.m.
Starting point is 01:04:14 on on Peacock and then three to seven on NBC. So let's let's do a pick to win. And I'll remind people we're back Sunday at the conclusion of the KPMG and the Travelers will be live again. Let's see Cody give us your pick to win. I truly think that Leona McGuire is gonna win this tournament. Really? Should be a great winner. I think it's either gonna be Jin Young Ko, Hey Ren Yu, Hinako Shibuno, Amy Yang, or Sarah Smoller. Holy cow. Those are my picks, those are my teams.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I think it's Hinako Shibuno. I can't believe you guys let me get her for a dollar. I think she's bound to win another one of these. She gets in the hunt so often. I love her whole demeanor, the bowing, the big smiles. I just, I love watching her in contention. She's truly like the nicest person in the world. I have a feeling and I felt these feelings before
Starting point is 01:05:13 and they have not come to fruition. So nobody blamed me if it doesn't. I really think Madeline Saxner is gonna win this tournament. And I think the greenery, it reminds her of Sweden. It's a driving and putting course. Those are the two things that she excels at. I I'm looking for math to have a big weekend.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Nothing that would be sick. And I know we get this all the time. We intentionally don't pick usually LC in these drafts or any games that we do, because we don't know. Believe me, we're writing for LC. All right. Everybody. So they always tweets and then she starts making bogeys.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Exactly. Yeah. Neil's got it. It was seven and a half majors, I think at this point. So, well, thank you guys for joining. I again, late Friday, of course everybody watching live. Thank you very much. Um, I hope you've enjoyed the first couple of days of golf to of golf to all those listening couple great days of golf ahead this weekend. I hope
Starting point is 01:06:10 you enjoy it. The travelers will be good as well and if lives your thing that will be great as well. Meet us back here Sunday evening. We'll be going live probably around that 7 p.m. Eastern. We'll update people on socials but until then crack on.

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