No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 861 - Scottie (again) at the Travelers, KPMG Women's PGA , LIV Nashville
Episode Date: June 24, 2024Protesters could not stop Scottie from winning his fifth straight signature event, as he outlasted Tom Kim at the Travelers. We chat about the exciting final round, Amy Yang's triumph at the KPMG Wome...n's PGA at Sahalee, LIV Nashville, low scores on tour, Akshay Bhatia, some listener questions, and a lot more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Can I run through some results here guys and then we'll get to the agenda and we are gonna get going
Scotty Scheffler wins in Connecticut Amy Yang dominates in Seattle thePMG women's PGA. Tyrell Hatton wins and Lesion 23 dominates as well. Guido Migliosi
wins in Amsterdam or Amsterdam excuse me. John Pack wins the Compliance Solutions
Championship over Jackson Subur on the corn fairy tour. Sue Benjoo was up by one
it looked like with 18 holes to go in the Epson tour. I'm not sure if there was
weather in that one but Ingrid Lindblad, just one shot
back going into the final round.
I don't know if that's.
Sorry.
I'd add one more to your list.
Uh, Anthony De La Santi wins over Brian Lee in a two hole playoff at the Northeast
amateur up at want to moist it.
The, uh, the elite am series, the cocktail tour that you, you know,
cocktail tour. I know that's a step above the cocktail tour, you know so well. That's not the cocktail tour.
I know that's a step above the cocktail tour.
But good field out there with a lot of young studs.
A lot of busy weekend golf.
We had the signature event of the Travelers, the Women's Major.
We had live Nashville.
We'll talk a little bit about that.
But if you don't mind, guys, I'll give a quick, in case people are out on their vacations,
I'm going to give you a quick little rundown of what unfolded at the Travelers is a wet weekend in
Cromwell lift clean in place was in play all weekend
Cam Young threw up a 59 on Saturday it was a birdie fest all weekend huge log
jam on the leaderboard can't lay Scotty Tom Kim actually big tone things of that
nature all kinds of names cycling in and out big toes coin hoes clean T all
kinds of names printed up there at the end Tone. Hogecoin, JT, all kinds of names.
Sprinted up there at the end.
But I'm talking guys that had a chance to win there.
There was like a five way tie at minus 19
for quite some time.
Big Tone took the quote lead on the back nine,
but it's kind of one of those tournaments
where the farther ahead you are on the course
is a misleading lead.
He was never in the lead.
Pumps one in the water on 16th,
then a make double to move backwards.
Thought he was gonna add to the Northern Trust, you know all those signature event
wins he's got, but it did not come to fruition this week. Scotty, Akshay, and
Tom Kim. That was a fantastic final threesome, like that was a really really
interesting three ball. Scotty went out in two under and then birdied 13, 14, and
15. Tom Kim played the front nine. Evenpard made a couple birds on the back
and he's won back as they got to the 15th
He also to putted birdie on 15
Actually made two front nine bogeys. He was two back when they got to 15, but he kind of petered out at that point
You know Scottie had an incredible shot into 15 hit at the 28 feet and they also highlighted in round three
He birdied the final four holes. So he really closed the deal on this one
But Tom Kim left the birdie putt short on 16
with a chance to tie Scottie.
And then on 18 Scottie hit it onto the fringe.
Paul Tesori gases up young Tom Kim,
asks him if his juices are flowing,
he confirms they are.
He swings as hard as you'll see somebody swing
on a sand wedge.
Almost hold it, absolutely stuffed it, spun it back.
You know, we're gonna, you know,
he's gonna make this birdie, we're gonna go to playoff timeout.
We got protesters on the green.
They've broken contained.
Oh my God.
We thought it was just one, but no, there's five.
They show the drone shot.
Which credit to CBS for actually showing it.
I hate when they cut away from a streak or a protester.
Like, come on, there's no cell phones out there.
We're gonna see it anyway.
I was gonna say, was that today or the block party last weekend, come on Randy
Incredible see they got fun. They got canisters. They got spray paint actually on the greens, which was incredible
You know Scotty leaves his putt on the lip and young Tom Kim steps up and drains it with a huge red stain next to
The whole hostess site
You'll never see.
They've recut a new hole in the front right part of the green.
They go back play the 18 Scotty lays back and stuffs it.
Young Tom Kim tries to jam another wedge back there.
It plugged in the bunker.
Couldn't get up down.
Scotty wins for the sixth time in 2024 before the month of July.
Jason Hawthorne asked, is it possible to find yet another way to put Scotty's greatness into perspective?
Can we start pre-planning these? Like, can we come up with a list of the next four things we're going to save for the next four wins so we don't have to try to do this on the spot?
I'm going to call, I'm going back to my analogy from last time. He's water, baby. He just wears you down. Erosion. Just give him time. He just, he just outlasts everybody.
He's Aquaman.
Maybe I'm, I might, I might have to throw that out to you guys.
Should we call him Aquaman?
That's interesting.
Ron was the buoy.
Think about it.
Cause the more I think about it, the more it's not flashy.
It's not again, it's not fire, right?
It's not like he's burning things down on his way to victory.
Like it doesn't look like he, you know, it's not the, it's not like he's burning things down on his way to victory. It doesn't look like he, it's not the
Omar Giff, it just feels pretty steady all day. Even when he's rattling off birdies on 13, 14,
and 15, it all looks pretty routine. Then like you said, in that playoff, it's like, yeah, he
lays back, which is almost strategic. He gets to throw it in first and put the pressure on Tom Kim.
He gets to throw it in first and put the pressure on Tom Kim. And in a way, it felt like with Akshay and Tom Kim, you nailed it.
That final group was fascinating.
It was like two younger cousins or younger brothers playing with the older, like playing
hoops at the family gathering and like, ah, let's make it a game.
And then he was just like, yeah, he's just going to dunk on the eight foot hoop.
He's just holding the ball away from the kids.
You guys aren't going to win, but like, oh yeah, you guys aren't gonna win.
But like, they're all, you know,
the younger cousins are sweating, they're feeling good,
they're in it.
It was, you know, and Ann-Skye looks a lot older
than those guys, even though he's only 28,
he looks like he's 45, so you got that going too.
But it was a fun day.
I had a good time watching that tournament.
It was almost like a Fast and Furious of like, dude, I almost had you.
It was like, you never had your car.
All right. You did not almost have me.
I was never, never going to be losing that golf tournament.
But I think, Neil, the more I think about it, I might be in with Aquaman.
Aquaman. It's just, it just keeps coming each wave, right?
It just wears you down, smoothing the rocks out.
You just can't, you can't fight it, man.
I mean, you got to bring in some heavy machinery
to damn that shit up.
Nobody can seem to stop it.
Over time, water wins every time.
That's right.
That's right.
Which the protesters might've been, you know,
I think they would be on our page as well.
Keep your politics out of my sports, Randy.
A couple stats, if you will, on Scotty.
You know it's a Scotty win night.
We gotta do a couple stats.
This win takes him to $27.6 million on the year.
That is 1.84 million per start.
This season alone would be something like 71st
on the all-time money list.
This season alone, he's made more money than Scott Verplank's entire career.
Since switching to the mallet, he's played in five signature events.
He has won five signature events.
He's made $18.9 million in those last five signature events,
which is an average of $3.78 million per start.
By winning the tournament today and winning $3.6 million, his average dollars earned in
a signature event of the last five actually went down today by winning this event because
the players throws off that average by so much.
It's completely absurd.
He's going to make like $100 million in two years span.
It's ridiculous.
And what that puts Scott up in the $2 million range,
conservatively, 2.5?
Well, he's made 1.89 alone,
just from these last five signature events,
plus 8% of every top 10, probably 6% of every non-top 10,
which there aren't really any of those.
And then he also has another win mixed in there as well.
So yeah, he's easily over $2 million.
Geez. All right. So these are, these are the PGA tours, signature events. What do we, is this,
is, are we more on the side of like Scotty truly generational greatness? I'll say, you know, first person to win six times before the start of July since Mr. Palmer himself back in
1962, I believe or is this an indictment on everybody else all these other
PGA suppose PGA tour players that keep getting their ass kicked week after week in these signature events
Maybe we do need to open them up go back to 156 people because out of these 71
Ain't no challengers there. I feel like we bust them open. We invite all new people. I'm good with these 71. We'll
see you guys in a little bit.
It's worth the discussion, Randy. I mean, there's no bully. We talked about this last
time too. It doesn't feel like there's a bully. I do about this last time too. Like it doesn't feel like there's a bully like, you know,
I do wish like Bryson was there. I don't know if there's not a ton of other guys in Nashville that I'm like, oh man,
like I got to see him but
he seems to be the only one that's not shying away from from Scotty right now. I it's still a close tournament.
He wins in a playoff like other guys are are balling out. But, uh, yeah, he's kind of in a league of his own.
And I don't know if that, it's hard to say that the talent on tour though is down.
Right.
Like I don't think that's it, Randy.
No, I'm, I'm, I'm trying to have this discussion with you, you know, I know you
might be, uh, you might be yanking my chain.
Oh, no, no, I'm not trying to yank your chain, but I think it's at least worth a fun little discussion
in light of he's won five in a row.
I think he's generational
and he should not have won five in a row, right?
Like he's won a couple,
like you just aren't supposed to be able to win
with your B game.
What do we call this?
Is B game probably this week?
Not C game, but B game, right?
And he's still good enough to win tournaments.
Like he's just insanely, insanely good.
And you know, I don't want this season to like,
if he doesn't win the open at Trune,
like it is kind of a, you know,
a heavy season of the golf that doesn't really matter
that much in one major.
The one major is going to feel like a little bit
of a disappointment, just a little bit of a disappointment
with this epic of a season if he doesn't win at Trune.
Is that fair?
No, it's not, but do you agree?
That's not fair. But you agree. It's fair. It's a fair like, hey, we're having a couple beers and
talking golf. It's absolutely a fair discussion. Like I think that's what's fun about following it.
And I would say, you know, Scottie's right back. We talked so much over the last few months about
Scottie and Nellie and they're both right there again with six wins, one major,
and like literally two people on the planet right now that
absolutely could understand what the other is going through.
Like, I really hope they at least have some dialogue because I don't know,
we've seen Nellie struggle with maybe the pressure the last couple of weeks.
We'll see about Scotty when he gets to Troon.
But yeah, honestly, writing that out,
I know I was throwing out that question just a bit ago,
but I truly do like seeing Scotty dominate.
I like seeing generational play
and I like having somebody out there
that's setting the standard week after week.
And hopefully we get some guys going to chase him down. I think that's the other thing.
My bold prediction to start the year is starting to look like the KVV,
stick your neck out prediction, which was that Scottie was going to win four times in a major
and have positive strokes game putting. I thought that was bold to start the year. He's got six
before we get into the month of July. It's a big, big, big damage to all of my takes on Mike.
It's super hard to win.
It's even harder to win now
because he gobbles up all these tournaments,
but for one person to go and do this is, again,
not something I would have seen happening in this era.
Well, one thing I do wanna touch on is,
we're back to kind of a very textbook PGA tour stop in TPC River Highlands.
For me, I enjoyed watching probably because I watched all these guys struggle at Pinehurst.
Would I rather watch them play a Pinehurst type course again, where you're worried about the ball
on the ground and more thought provoking? Yes, but it goes back to what I was saying last week,
too. I think the diversity of the course, the style, the setup works for me. Now, what I worry about is going to
Rocket Mortgage next week, the John Deere after that with, it's Birdie Fest, Birdie Fest, Birdie
Fest. But for today with that stacked leaderboard, the fireworks at the end, I mean, maybe we should
import some crisis actors for future PGA Tour events. I mean got just got me all jazzed up on the couch
But it is fun. I had a good time watching today and
I think that's a you know a credit to the signature event format of getting all those names on the on the leaderboard and getting
Like two young up-and-coming guys going at Scotty was like, all right, this is, this is interesting.
There's a lot of storylines at play here.
It's also, it's a transition back into the golf of like,
hey, you can turn it on Sunday afternoon
and be totally fine versus like US open is Thursday
AM from the jump.
And it's exhausting watching this style of play
for four days.
It really is.
It just, it's one speed like going in that direction.
But then you look up on Sunday
afternoon. I was not having a great time with the travelers and I look up and everybody
was tied at minus 19. I was like, ah, we're going to get a good finish. That's what the
PGA Tour is. We're going to orchestrate a good finish here for you. This has not maybe been
the best golf competition of all time, but it's made for TV, good finish, and that's
kind of what the product is.
It's a good theater. This course, we talked about it on the half yard. It's a for TV, good finish, and that's kind of what the product is. So a good theater. This course we talked about it. Yeah, it delivers.
It's a good theater. 18s, you know, it's not a great golf hole, but it's just it's a nice
amphitheater. People get hyped up there.
I mean, it's always seems to be a, you know, kind of a photo finish at the Traveler.
So worth, you know, worth, worth crediting.
Enjoyed it. Enjoy the last two hours.
It does almost kind of steer into like, so easy that it is entertaining.
You know, like the 18s, just like,
ah, somebody go make a birdie.
Like, go make, it's a super easy kind of a joke,
golf ball, but go make a birdie.
That's kind of fun.
But I got a question.
Andy Stallman asked,
did Tom Kim gain or lose more fans this week?
Andy?
Listen, yeah.
Let me just say my piece and then I can turn it over to you guys.
I have no issue with Tom Kim.
I like Tom Kim.
I don't like, I don't watch every round of golf he plays.
So on a day like today where, you know, I have the PGA going on my iPad and I got the,
the KPMG going on the big TV.
Like I love it.
He shows energy out there.
He shows excitement. He shows passion out there. He shows excitement. He
shows passion. He's a young kid. Like I'm, I'm, I'm struggling to see how people, and
I know, I guess you guys can talk about the pace of play. That's why I'm asking. Yeah.
Doesn't bother me when it comes to pro golf on television. Uh, so I, I don't know how
he would lose fans today, quite honestly. I think it, the problem, I'm not a huge policing of pace of play on television,
right, because you can move, you can get around it.
But I think he has the interesting can't lay problem, which is it's the unavoidable
pace of play delay, which is standing over the ball too long.
And you can't, like the producers can't really plan for that or
can't like cut in late enough to avoid that.
You know what
I'm saying? Like if somebody takes, I have a bigger problem with people taking too long
in between shots, like overall in competitive golf, but that's kind of covered up by moving
around on the golf course. So his style is the worst for TV and I think he is going to
lose some fans because of it. Cause like, Doddy was talking about today, he was getting
harassed, you know, kind of heckled a little bit on the course for his pace of play. It
was noticeable. People on Twitter were upset about it. I love the kids energy. He's a he's quite an immature 22 year old whatever he might be
He's massively talented. I would not say he's a global superstar like Netflix try to push on us
But he's incredibly talented and entertaining in a different style play and I like watching to play golf
But man, he's gonna need to watch this footage back
He's gonna need some somebody in his ear to be like we got to pick this up
man, he's gonna need to watch this footage back. He's gonna need somebody in his ear to be like,
we gotta pick this up.
Part of your job's to be an entertainer
and this is not gonna go well for you
if you do this on television every time you play.
Yeah, I think I agree with you.
So I'm a known, a bit of a Tom Kim hater,
like not my brand of golf that I enjoy.
I think he's not doing himself any favors.
Like it is, you know, I think Trevor said it,
it's kind of unnerving how long he stands over it still, which is kind of how I feel of just like,
and then it becomes a bit of an eye roll of like, yo, let's just pull the trigger.
He's looking up five times. Like it does get a little annoying is, and I think that's the word
I'd kind of use for some of his, uh, I don't know, antics a little bit or just like his energy,
like it is energy.
It's good. And I think that's good for the game. Like he's, he's different. He's fresh. He's young.
So I think all that's good. I want to say though, I was very impressed today with his like complete
game. Um, from like, he's just all, and I was looking at his data golf profile. It's like a
perfect Pentagon. Like he's, he's above slightly above average in every facet of like
strokes gained. And then like, he separates a little bit him and Okshay were actually
like almost identical, which kind of blew me away. Their strokes gains were both very
almost average, but both of them excel at driving accuracy and Tom Kim noticeably better
at as approach game. I think his iron game like today, watching him like knock things down and
he's got all the shots from an approach standpoint and I found that very impressive.
So I think he does, you know, deserves a ton of credit. I think this was a like a big stage for
him and he showed up, you know. He's not had a great year to this point. It's kind of a,
it was a tough slow start to the year. He's had some really bad events mixed in there. I don't
know if it's been health related or mental or what I think even you know withdrew
From an event in in the spring or in the witcher
I forget when exactly he finished t4 at the Canadian open a couple weeks ago and this finished
But ever since he finished runner-up or ever since he won the Shriners last October
it's really not been a great run for him, but
I don't know golf's more exciting with him in the mix
It's it's I don't think he's a massive needle mover, but I perk up a little bit when I see Tom
Kim doing some stuff. Maybe it's just because of our dumb internal arguments, but I'm pro
Tom Kim. I like the kid. I think he's going to amass a lot of victories in his career.
Do you think he's going to win a major, Zali? I think I believe we've done this, and I'm
on record as saying yes. Yeah, I was refreshing the conversation.
I wanted to see.
No, I don't think I'm allowed to move off that
at this point.
Okay.
I think it's more of a,
in 20 years if you guys remember
and you can remind me and I was wrong,
I'm fine to admit that,
but I'd rather be on this side.
More likely that I can taunt you guys on this one
than the other way around.
All right, do you think he's gonna win a major?
Today made me think,
maybe I said no initially
and I think I'm still on a no,
but today made me really second guess that because I felt like that final round, big group,
signature event, like this felt like the biggest time he's really, really actually been final group
in contention. I feel like, you know, like Shriner's like, yeah, he has three wins. I understand
that, but this felt like a pretty big stage. And I thought he showed up really well. Like I think he, he, that shot on 18 to birdie the last hole to go to a
playoff, like that was, you know, that was, that was big time.
And I just want to give him a, some kudos, Randy.
There was, it was a nice followup.
I'd say the, probably the president's cup a couple of years ago, um, was like
the introduction I would, I would assume for a lot of people, but I'm, I'm with you.
Like we, we just got done talking about, you know, Scotty being this generational player right now.
And, and Tom kind of went, you know, shot for shot with them for most of the day.
And it was great to have Akshay there almost because again, they, they both are very similar
places in their career, same age, one has three wins. One has two, like I said, same kind of profile of just like slightly above
average and everything with that, with, you know, from a skills standpoint
and actually just faded, man.
Like, like the put the right miss in play and just said, guys, I'm going to, you
know, you guys go on from here.
I'll, I'll, I'll see you at the clubhouse.
So, uh, but God, I mean, moving to Akshay,
I really, really enjoy watching him play golf.
Like I was rooting for him all day.
I love the way he swings it.
I mean, when Trevor was, he hit this just mega left miss
that hit a tree and kicked back in the fairway
and they decided to break his swing down after that one,
which is what's on screen.
But I mean, you know, Trevor did a great job breaking it down.
I just don't understand how this guy can get his,
like the flexibility, I mean, I'm so jealous.
Like I love it, man.
I love everything about it.
Love the big divots he takes on his wedge game.
You know, the putty, the lag putting today,
the pace wasn't very good, but I like having Akshay around
and I root for the guy. I just
find that I naturally gravitate to him. So good. I think this was a step forward for him as well,
big moment for him. I didn't think until the last four, five, six holes, he was in it
and played good this week. So shout out to him too.
Preston Pyshka Almost the weirdest pod bump ever for Akshay.
We were texting this week and I was going to try to record with him this week to play next week
and we ended up scrapping it and I was like,
sure enough he's gonna go on to win.
That'd have been a great, actually it would've made
the interview out of date anyway, so I'm glad he didn't win.
I'm just kidding, but happy for Akshay.
I like watching him as well.
I just, I say this every time that he kind of pops up there
but just carved out a very different path,
took a lot of heat for it from a lot of people
and see it's not as easy as he's making it look
to kind of take this leap into that he has in pro golf and every everything
just seems to be taking a step up right he wins Barracuda last year which is an
opposite field event he wins a regular event this you know he won the Valero
this year which I honestly kind of forgot about and then now he's like
competing like very very seriously compete with the number one player in
the world in the signature event and it's happening very quickly he's like competing, like very, very seriously competing with the number one player in the world in the signature event. And it's happening very quickly.
He's 22 years old, like he was born in 2002.
Like this is absurd.
It really is.
He and Tom Kim, like they're both ranked around the same.
Like they're in the top 50.
Like I think they're both in that, that 40, 30 range.
I'd like, I'd love to see Akshay like play on a Ryder Cup team.
You know, I just think like, he's not there yet.
I'm not like nominating him for the team, but we got what a year and a half left. Uh, like what about presidents? That would be,
say again, what about presidents cup this year? Well, I'm just trying to give him a chance. Like,
I don't know if you can go right now. 15th in the standings. Um, it's, I think he's just on the,
the president's cup writer cup. I think he's exactly the type of guy with a little foresight.
Hey, bring him into the team, a president's cup year, like bring him in two years early,
right?
Let them get a taste of the, the, the competitiveness, the environment around a
president's cup.
And then you hope, you know, it just helps him elevate and he might be there knocking
down the door for a spot on the rider cup.
I love that idea.
I think he'd be a fascinating guy to watch.
I mean, I just want to see how this swing and all of this holds up under
like the biggest pressure in golf, right?
Whether that's a major Ryder Cup.
Like it's fascinating.
It's, it's really fun.
And it didn't hold up today.
Like he did have a bad finish.
Right.
He had the two way miss going, but I appreciate we talk about wanting
to see the ball move more.
I like the way he works the ball.
Yeah.
Like when he hits the big cuts and he does try to draw it.
Like he's not scared to, you know, be an artist.
And so I think that's maybe why I gravitate
towards him as a player.
Quickly on this one, does Akshay win a major in his career?
God.
You know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna create a record.
I know we've talked about this before,
but I'm gonna create a Google sheet
and we're gonna track all of these calls.
We're gonna track them all
and we'll revisit them all as we get to it.
I'll say yes, why not?
Let's have some fun.
I mean, yeah, 22, sure.
Give me the yes. A lot of time left.
I mean, but I kind of, I get it Tom Kim, you know,
feeling like he doesn't have enough length
was like kind of the argument.
And Akshay is the same, like he's really, which is kind of surprising. He's very accurate off the T,
which is not what you see when you watch them. But you think with that big move,
he's hitting it far, but he's, you know, kind of tore average off the T.
But yeah, fucking Sally. Yeah, he's going to win major. Let's come on, baby.
Let's go. Cody ran a poll.
Dying to know. Oh, sorry. I'm just on Occhi, I'm dying to know.
His wiki profile lists his weight as 130 pounds.
I like, I.
That's hard to believe.
Get him to step on a scale, like mid round
at the next signature event or something.
I just want to know if that's accurate.
No, that hadn't changed in a while.
I wouldn't count that.
Cody ran a little YouTube poll
on Young Tom Kennedy gain or lose fans.
65% voted gain, 35% said lose for this week.
So let's get to our moment of joy.
This is brought to you by our friends at Footjoy.
Just any moment, could be anything,
anywhere out there that brought you any joy this week.
Who wants to go?
Oh, I'll kick it off.
I mean, so you summed it up earlier.
We normally when we get a streaker or somebody interrupting a field of play, they cut away.
My moment of joy was I think CBS got just like surprised and they didn't see it
coming. But a specific part of this protest gave me joy.
And it was the cop tackling and it was from a fan like video.
So it's not just Cody. There's another one
I had in there. But like this scene is, is fantastic. This right here. So the car, this
form tackle, when, when, when there is a justified form tackle in civilian life, like as a former
football player, I get so jacked up like to like, I was watching this is from a video
and I was just replaying it. I felt like I was back in the film room in college.
It's like, ooh, look, yeah, man, see that?
See how he exploded from the hips.
Now he doesn't bring his feet,
but this is great wrap up here.
Uses his weight to bring the guy to the ground.
And excellent tackle.
He didn't land on him and incur the 15, you know,
the body weight penalty.
100% it's all, it wasn't a hip drop either.
He didn't use his head, you know,
he didn't lead with the head. So it's not a 15 yard penalty. I just, I, when it's a justified
tackle like this and you can see the cop right before this, he's like kind of walking. And then
he's like, you can see when he makes the decision of like, fuck it, I'm going to get, you know,
like he accelerated, you know, he ran through the tackle. It's fantastic, man. I just, I don't know why.
It's a small moment of joy for me though.
Well, Neil, we were kind of fighting in our slack.
Who was gonna use the protesters as their moment of joy.
So let me just piggyback it.
Cody, if you go back to that wide shot
with the kind of like eight people being tackled at once
in different parts of the green.
I want people if you're watching.
Looks like it's from the seventies.
Incredible.
You got Tom Kim standing with his putter on the green.
You got three, four people being tackled.
But I want to draw people's attention down.
If you're watching probably 60, 70, 80 yards down the hole just in the rough
there's there's an officer and this was a video so if you go back and actually
watch the video that the officers running in and all I could think was you
know when when a scuffle breaks out in Major League Baseball and you see the
bullpen people charging in like this officer was they're not running fast
this poor officer at one point
They kind of slow to walk maybe catch their breath and then start jogging again, but they're running in from the bullpen
They're trying to get in on the action
It just was I mean you want to talk about something to liven up a tournament just take this scene in
Especially with all the fans you like just the theater it felt like a truly felt like an outdoor play was going on.
I mean, this looks like it's some type of like a community
theater or something like what is going on and my you know,
my wife's like, oh, oh my God.
What you know, everybody's Jack everybody in my household,
you know, my my young son, he's looking at the TV. He's like, Oh, Oh, you know, he can't say anything,
but he's fantastic. It's the best. And then you have the announcers talking about, you know,
the white substance, cause nobody quite knows. We got a rules guy in there. Oh God. And then he
got it. Well, then there's a TIO situation. They let, they let, you know, why do you like move his mark over? Cause it was a, well, I can't remember
what, what do you say? Oh, actually I did. Yeah. Actually I got to, to have a clear putt.
Yeah. So he had to like take a line that didn't run through the paint. It just works out the
supers. God, what are you know, the supers thought their week was over.
Only, only did they realize there's nobody running at the blowers.
We need some backups, which yet not, not great.
Look for PGA tour security in general. They got these aerosol cans in.
I don't think that's fantastic,
but everyone did scramble into action pretty quickly to address,
get people to the ground, address the issue, cut a new pin. Like they,
they managed to do that.
And let me be clear, this stuff sucks.
It's like, oh, come on, guys.
Listen, the climate activists, it's like, guys,
you're making everybody hate you.
I don't know if this is moving the cause forward here.
Maybe there's got to be a better way,
or maybe just nobody's listening. I understand we're
addicted to fossil fuels, but this is not really helping. The whole crowd, they had to cut the
audio because they're all chanting, assholes. So there was no audio on the broadcast for 30 seconds.
It was outrageous, all of it. I get the whole point of a protest is it's supposed to be inconvenient
to somebody, but if you want people to get involved with point of a protest is it's supposed to be inconvenient to somebody but you want people
To get involved with your cause this is then you're only gonna piss people off is probably I mean
I like the guys that glued themselves to the seats at the US Open Randy remember that last year. Oh, yeah
Yeah, the tennis. Yeah, that was I mean Lisa. I was creative. I don't know. This one was just kind of like
Then the other thing is I'm watching that's I've watched a video
I watched that video for like, you know the other thing is I'm watching that video.
I watched that video for like, you know, six times through and I'm like, man, these people,
this is your moment.
They couldn't even get their aerosols going.
You know, they were so slow.
I know I'm like, you guys, so Neil, that's it.
They could have done a lot more damage.
One guy's wasting time in the bunker.
What are we doing in the bunker?
I know it's like you guys are well, that's what I was going to say.
We need a training camp for these protesters.
They were looking like total NARBS out there.
Regular people made anybody miss.
The one guy that got tackled, he's just like walking on the, it's like, yo,
man, you are out in the open.
Go score dude.
What are you selling them for?
I know, I know, I know.
I couldn't figure it out.
Oh, what are the odds?
What would FanDuel of Odds have been for, you know,
a climate protest to break out at one of the golf tournaments
this week and not for it to be at the one in Seattle?
I mean, what an upset that was.
Yeah, it's in Hartford.
It's just a very random spot for this to happen.
You're absolutely right about that.
Like what, why, you know,
it feels like Pinehurst last week would be a,
And if you're mad at oil,
wouldn't the live event have made more sense too?
Yeah.
I got a lot of those comments, Ollie.
I think that would absolutely make sense.
We did have a press release come across
that I don't know where it came from,
but it's actually not about the oil.
I believe it is tied to climate, but the spectator safety.
I believe there's a lightning strike
or something like that on a Saturday.
That's what they're out there for, global warming, man.
So big, I know you stand with these people,
but do you remember last summer at the AIG Women's Open
or calling Colvin happened right from us.
Those also were not prepared for their big moment.
What was that situation?
Well, they wouldn't let us do play by play
on those protesters either.
They, you know, they quickly cut away.
Trying to silence the independent media. They came you know, they quickly cut away trying to silence
the media. They came out with, I think some smoke or something purple, Cody. I kind of forget it.
It was not very impressive though. Well, there was a guy at the open on the 17th at, uh,
in Liverpool, uh, and Horschel like got a, got ahold of them. This was, but it was like on a,
it was like a Thursday, you know, just a single, an individual, a lone wolf.
That was kind of like the one at the AIG Women's last year.
It was, it was kind of like,
it was not this coordinated by no means.
If you're, if you're Scotty and you've had the,
the police situation that you've had this year,
like what are you thinking when you see 12 uniformed police?
I'm just glad Scotty didn't drop down and put his arm around.
You go back and watch the video.
He's watching the guy in the bunker the whole time.
And so all this stuff's going on behind him.
He's not watching the guy get tackled,
like the cop on top of the one lady,
and he finally turns around and is like, oh shit.
So then he goes and stands next to Tom Kim.
Just stand there.
Jesus.
So the picture we're looking at right here, it's not this protester, but for the people
watching that, that thing of flowers, one of the protesters kicked that over.
This guy did. He kicked maybe right after.
Oh, maybe. Okay. All right.
It was this guy was super hostile coming out. He was like the first one they brought out.
And then the other ones are wearing their t-shirts and they were a little bit more like
civil.
I don't know.
This guy, I will keep going back to this guy.
If this guy has to put in to have his $90 pants replaced, I think it's excusable.
His knees got quite a workout here though.
This is very memeable, especially with Tom Kim in the background. A lot of people are asking you know there was no signs of TC anywhere you know was this
you know we haven't seen TC we haven't heard from TC was he involved in any of this I can
report.
My moment of joy image you know it may remind you of TC a little bit but it is not.
Ken Report TC was not involved in any of this but was playing golf this Friday didn't it
took me till the seventh hole till I noticed that one of my buddies was rocking
the Air TC's, had the Air TC's on.
How about that?
I didn't even notice, it took me seven holes to rock it.
My buddy Phil, he didn't even, out in the wild, he didn't even tell me he was buying
them, he wasn't like pointing them out, I was just like hey we got the Air TC's in the
wild, brought a lot of joy to my face to see those out in the wild.
So not as much joy as the protesters, of course,
but I figured all three of us couldn't choose
protesters for this one.
So I wish I would have had enough time to Photoshop these
on one of the protesters.
Well, the one I need to go back and watch the broadcast again
because it did feel like in the moment,
the production truck was trying to cut away,
but every time they cut away, it was like another angle.
Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit.
And then it was like drone. It was like, oh shit. It like, it kept like going
to different cameras, but they couldn't get away from the action. Cause there's so much
going on. It was awesome. I mean, you got to hit 70 second hold. No other. Yeah. It
was like the, the, all the attention was right there on that hole. It was well executed.
I just worry, you know, we're, we need to recruit a little bit more athleticism. Yeah, it was a great
game plan, Randy. It's just we don't have the athletes. I mean, the Cromwell PD was
just stunting on him. Yeah. Oh my God. How are we feeling about another year of
crazy low scoring at River Highlands? What's the reaction to
that? What do we think about that?
Well, Cody flagged it in our Slack thread that they made a point last year, like, we're
going to toughen this place up. This is it. This is it. We're going to put a bunch of
money into making this harder. And it didn't seem to work.
One stroke.
I know it was lift clean in place, but what do you guys, what do you think it could be? And it didn't seem to work. One stroke. One stroke difference.
I know it was lift clean in place,
but what do you guys, what do you think it could be?
What would be driving,
I spent a lot of time thinking about this all week
and I just, I struggle to come up with a few things.
I've got some ideas, maybe some thoughts
as to why scores might possibly be low
out on the PGA Tour and in professional golf.
I'm curious if you guys have any thoughts to any of this.
I think you've been on this block for a long time,
Sal, it's the heat, it's the humidity.
Climate change.
Right?
Ball's going farther.
Totally.
Hot air.
I think that's definitely one of the leading reasons
is the rises in temperatures
and it's making the ball fly farther.
I think the woke architecture too,
like cutting down all the trees is for sure just like,
you know, it's wreaking havoc on a lot of the scoring as well.
So.
Randy?
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't, I mean, what else I did?
I'm struggling for any answers.
What else?
I think something I haven't heard a lot of people talk about remember those swimsuits
They made back in the day that were like too aerodynamic and just like helped you cut through
The water or whatever. I think I think the golf shirts are like speeding up how fast
These athletes are swinging the club. I think that's just there the golf shirts are too aerodynamic
It's just allowing them to create too much speed with their golf, with their swigs.
So think about it. Any other ideas?
No, but I would say if I was running a consulting firm, I would submit a bit to help them tough in the golf course, I would just say, guys, let's just make it a par 68 problem solved. I'm going to save you so much money. We're just going to make it a par 68. Those scores are gonna be so... those scores to par. People are gonna think
this shit is so much harder next year. I think another thing is probably, you know,
the competition from Liv has just made everyone that much better. So, I mean, for
that I would say, I would say thank you Phil for sure. And I've not heard anybody
talk about this, but ever since Squares
came in the game and it promised all these people all these ball speed gains like the
scores just keep getting lower so I don't know that how about speaking of that how about
big tone on 18 Randy it hit it 390 he gave you he finally went and got that extra 10
for you he said you know what why not right now sounds good just put one out there you
can hit it. 390.
Why don't you? Why aren't you swinging hard all the time?
That I guess that's just my question.
He's got 58 yards in.
And then he hit this wedge like such a bad, really sick tones,
leaving so much in the bag every week.
What happened there on 18?
Do we know it was I was trying to look up the radar data from that one.
If he really actually reached back for one, but they did not.
Do not pick that one up, but
Just completely maybe this is tied to the scores being really low
But I I don't know I cannot confirm or deny if that would be the case
But ball speeds are up one mile an hour in the last year almost two mile an hour in the last two years
Three mile an hour of the last three years and four mile an hour in the last four years
You know, we call that we call it unsustainable is what we call
that. And it's only just begun ball speeds are up like six miles an hour over
the last seven years, and they're just going to keep heading in exactly one
direction. So we're being a little bit facetious here about, you know, maybe
why the scores were low, but legitimately, people just bending
themselves over backwards just to avoid the conversation of technology and still try to pretend like we don't know why or how these guys are the guy have gotten this good.
It could be athletes.
Oh, I forgot about that one.
But I will say.
Maybe the holes are bigger too.
Nobody's measured the holes in a while.
Cam Young's 59. I do want to talk about that for a sec.
I still think 59 is like awesome
and should be, you know, awesome. Well, yeah, I mean, it's still cool to see. You're like,
oh, damn, he went super low. But my issue is that need to put an asterisk on if it was
preferred lies or not. Like that to me has a massive, like I kind of want to know like
that needs to be,
that needs to be stated very clearly.
Was it ball in hand or not
when you shot your sub 60 round?
We playing real golf or not?
A hundred percent, Randy.
So on the official Wiki page
for the lowest rounds of golf in professional competition,
there is a little footnote on there for local rule,
preferred lies being in play.
Hell yeah, that warms my heart.
So problem solved there.
But you know, shout out to Cam Young.
That's an awesome round of golf, 59.
It's an awesome round.
I gotta admit the 59 stuff, I just glaze over now.
And honestly, I think a lot of that's to do
with like the corn fairy.
I feel like guys are shooting 58, 59 out there all the time.
I feel like it's lost a bit of relevance to me or specialness.
I should say for sure.
I mean, this is on, on, this is official tournaments on leading professional
tours. It doesn't count corn fairy. There's been three in 2024, two in 2023,
one in 22, one in 21, one in 20. There's been like, I'm quickly counting, 11, 12, 13 since
2013. And there were one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, and professional, prior to
2013, there were nine on the leading tours and there's been, it's more than doubled in the last
10, 15 years. I wonder, I wonder how.
Well, it's the same thing with like the majors.
You know, 63 was a sacred number at a major championship.
And now it's like, yeah, that doesn't, you know,
that's gone by the wayside.
Some numbers on Cam Young's 59,
it was a 7.84 true strokes gained,
which is three shots better than the next player
in the field.
The 200th best round in terms of true strokes gained
of all time on data golf is nine.
So this is probably not in the top 500 rounds of golf
in terms of basically it was very easy conditions out there.
So he shot a very low number.
Suck on that.
Taste it.
Guys, there's a lot of other stuff I can get aggrieved about.
I got plenty of options.
I'm just choosing not to care about.
It's just the number, like I hate it.grieved about. I got plenty of options. I'm just choosing not to care about this stuff.
It's just the number, like I hate to,
it's just very silly that this number means stupid now.
I don't disagree with you guys at all.
I'm just not gonna get all hot and bothered about it.
I'm not hot and bothered.
I'm very cool.
I'm fine.
I'm totally fine.
Do not put it in the newspaper that I'm hot and bothered.
Do not put it in the paper that I'm hot and bothered.
I'm mad.
I'm not mad.
Yeah, I'm not mad.
Furrix 58 gained 10.9 shots for reference.
So Furrix 58 was quite a bit more legit
and was not in preferred license.
Great quote from Fluff today, or this week,
he was like, oh yeah, 58 could have been lower.
So he could have.
Yeah, that's what he said.
He was like, oh, we're vibing out there.
It absolutely could have.
It's the worst I could have shot today.
I had a random question I was thinking of.
Where's the cutoff on the PGA Tour?
Like if you took like a slightly above average PGA tour
player now and put him back in the 1960s and he gets to take
his golf ball and all of his equipment and his launching
devices and all of this, like Eric Cole would win like 20
majors, wouldn't he?
Like he would be, he would blow Jack Nicholas away.
If Jack still has to
use his old equipment and Eric Cole gets to use this equipment, right? I mean it feels like it.
Yeah from the distance standpoint it seems like that would solve, you know, that would give him a
massive like schematic advantage. Like corn fairy players would they like win all of the majors back then? I mean, imagine putting like Gordon Sergeant back like 70 years ago.
I mean, I just saw like, I don't even know if we have to go.
Yeah.
I'm not even sure.
Like the, the line is this corn fairy.
It feels like it might be lower.
I was at a photo shoot with Sergeant last Monday and he like cruising,
I was at a photo shoot with Sargent last Monday and he like cruising, cruising at 191, 192
like ball speed. Just like had barely warmed up. Like you hit a few like wedges and irons and he was like, he's like, yeah, this is pretty, he's like, and he said, Randy's like, yeah, I could get
you, I could get you up close for 200 if you want. You want to see that Neil? It was like, Oh my God. Neil would love this.
Neil would absolutely love this.
It was so sick.
Putting a wrap on travelers.
Matt Deeb wants to know if I will apologize
for Tom Kim's pace of play.
I will, I will apologize for it guys.
I'm the resident young Tom Kim fan.
I will apologize for that.
That was inexcusable.
Quick fantasy golf update from our draft back this spring.
I have 46 points. TC has five, Neil has four. I'm going to be a little bit more flexible. Um quick fantasy golf update uh from our draft
back this spring. I have 46
points. TC has five. Neil has
four. Uh we just many different
ways it could go from here but
getting Scotty at number two
overall appears to have been a
decent uh. What and what who did
TC took? Somebody Hovland won.
Oh yeah. Um Harry Higgs.
Congratulations. He's headed
back to the PGA Tour. He was on his way back after two wins as well, but officially locked that up this week.
Hopefully he can keep dominating out there and keep improving his status for next year.
The Olympics field is set.
Sorry, sorry, can I get one shout out, one more thing on the Travelers.
I do want to give Travelers, the sponsor, a shout out for mixing it up on the commercials.
I know I bring this up often on when a title
sponsor spends all this money and they have one really bad commercial that we have to
watch 12, 15, 20 times. I thought Travelers put together a nice suite of commercial options,
very sincere storylines, and I appreciate that. So I just wanted to give them a shout
out.
Thank you, Neil. I wanted to, as we put a wrap on the signature event, SCN,
I was I was just want to ask you guys,
I wanted you to come up with three ways
that the PGA Tour can improve signature events for next year.
What are what are three things that the tour can do
to improve these events for next year?
Neil, I'll go to you first.
Man. I thought I was spending some time on this earlier.
I think the field should be bigger.
I know your counter argument to that is like, well, but the leaderboard was great today.
That's fair, but I guess using the exemptions a little bit better, I would like to see a
cut.
I think having some downside is still important to me for the whole week. Like you said, all that Matt, you can just tune in on Sunday.
Well, in order to not tune in on Sunday, I need you to give me some type of downside earlier in the
week. So it doesn't have to be a half cut, but there should be a freaking downside. I don't like
the no cut stuff. Maybe I'm an old grumpy man now. So that's a couple of things. We talked about
the schedule stuff a little bit on our happy hour on Wednesday. I mean, you know, if you
ask the players, they like kind of bunching this stuff together. I think it's, I think
you just, I don't know, you got to pick better courses maybe. Like, I feel like it's cool with,
like, one of these, like, Hilton heads different. And I guess because this is,
Travelers, like, this is the only signature event on, like, a true Birdie Fest course,
maybe that's okay. But I guess I need to go to more interesting places would help. And I don't
know how to solve that though, because you have a title sponsor
like Travelers willing to foot the bill, like they're going to want to do it in their hometown.
And there's a lot of history. And honestly, that adds a little bit to the event because
I have a lot of context from this event and that 18th hole. So I'm talking out of both
sides of my mouth. So I guess I'm struggling with the third thing I would do to improve
it, Solly. I'm giving you two. I don't know if I have a third.
That's fine. Randy, do you have any?
Well, do you want realistic things or just things I actually believe in?
Can you give me two realistic and one thing you actually believe in?
Hell yeah.
I don't know if I can give you any realistic actually. So let's just skip to the things
that will never happen. I think at the beginning of the year, the PGA should hold like a, you know, uh, some
type of, of evening where they draw kind of like the draft lotteries and other
sports where they draw which events are going to be signature events for that
year and you can't be a signature event more than three years in a row if you
happen to win the lottery.
So nobody knows, you know, we're gonna draw them,
we're gonna figure out where the ping pong balls land
and those are your signature events.
I think that would, Neil, to your point, mix up, you know,
hey, where are we seeing the best?
What type of courses, et cetera, et cetera.
Cause the more I think about like a tournament like RIV,
a tournament like the players, a tournament like,
a lot of these tournaments that are signature events,
they don't need to be signature events.
They're already like the events I look forward to year to year.
And so if you make, you know, the rocket mortgage is signature event, all of a sudden that
becomes a little bit more interesting. That's one idea. The second, if you do miss the cut,
I think you are ineligible for the next signature event. So we need to create a little drama
both at the top of the leaderboard
and kind of in the relegation zone.
I firmly believe, you know, you gotta give these guys
something to play for all four days besides the money.
If you miss the cut, the cut, you know,
establish the rules, whatever,
but if you miss the cut, you gotta sit one
and we'll get a little bit more turnover.
And I just think it'll be more interesting.
God, I love that idea.
Yeah, you can focus on both areas.
Popeye's meme worker on that one.
No, I know, because like, yes, Spieth missed a cut and all the sponsors,
the sponsor wants them there.
And I know-
It's not a better tournament if Spieth is not in it, right?
Like that's, it's not interesting enough.
I know, but if we want these guys-
The current tournament is better.
Yeah. Why don't we create more hero world championships within like invite the 15 guys
everybody wants to see then. I'm like, you can only control these things to a certain extent.
And then you got to let the, the, the sport take over.
Yeah. And at some point, Jordan's got to play better, you know, like we're kind of
existing on, on, you know on brand a little bit there. Yeah, he qualified. He qualified. He was close scores.
No, I know, but if he plays horrible, I'm singling Spieth out. Take somebody else. But I like Randy's
idea of I'm talking about the same thing he is. I like his idea about downside a little better.
It's like, yeah, you take one off. And the next one you're back in if you're still inside
the top, whatever 50, 60, whatever the criteria is. My question is, and nobody quite knows how
anybody gets in. That's part of the problem too. That's not true. You get in through scoring,
like posting low scores in tournaments, right? A big sample size. The top 10 and the Aion Swing 5.
That you don't know. I know. But like the top 50, like, do you just...
Yeah, and nobody knows if they're signature events,
like nobody knows really anything about these things.
Okay. Anyways, here's my ideas.
This is maybe a little bit more on the realistic side.
You need live from and better graphics there.
You need something when somebody flips it on
that they understand that this event is different than the other ones. And you need some coverage and better graphics there. You need something when somebody flips it on that they understand that this event
is different than the other ones.
And you need some coverage there on the ground.
You need Johnson Wagner out doing dumb shit.
Like you need to treat it differently
than a regular PGA Tour event.
If you want it to feel elevated for fans,
right now they don't feel that elevated.
Just they have better players in them.
That's what the selling point is.
Fans don't really care that you're playing for more money.
Just you gotta do something to signify
that this is a bigger event in terms of your graphics
package or whatever it is, it's gotta feel bigger
than it does.
That's the biggest thing.
I would say that CBS is like the,
I thought the broadcast brought all the toys out.
Yeah, they're not light, but it's just like,
again, live from elevates everything.
You have brand old to desk talking about everything that happened, like I would flip that on every night and watch that, it's just like, again, live from elevates everything. You have brand up the desk talking
about everything that happened.
Like I would flip that on every night and watch that.
It would feel like I'm watching a bigger event.
They do that to players and it feels different, right?
Like that's the one event that feels different.
I want to see that the other seven signature events.
Like I don't, I know that's an expense
and all the reasons why it won't happen,
but that's, that would elevate things.
That would make things better for fans.
That's where I'm coming from on this. I think there should be a separate point system. Can I offer another idea? Sure. Oh, okay. Sorry. Go ahead. No, no
No, go ahead. I'm minor a
separate point system
Like of determining the championship like there should be a status point system like for everyone like all the Lance O'Griffins that are worried about
I can't get points in these events. Whatever make a status point system and make a FedEx cup point system. Make them two different things. I don't care
how you structure it, but you can only earn points for the title through the signature event series
and through the playoffs. Make it, that's what counts. These are the events that really count.
The rest are playing for status and to try to move up the ladder and be competitive in those events.
That would, otherwise it's, you know, people are going to be your half your membership is going to be bitchy about the points distribution
and blah blah blah. This is a way of addressing that I think I'd have to think it through a lot
more more than I have. But there's an idea. And the easy one is just fill out the fields a little
bit deeper. Like I don't need them to go to 100. But there's they shouldn't have have 69 men fields.
It should be 80 or 90. I mean, there's a happy medium there.
It doesn't have to be over a hundred,
but I could use some more.
I still, why I still like it like under 80 is
everybody goes off the first tee on Thursday,
no split tees, no none of that.
Two-sums pace of play is way better.
Little bit more leeway to get it in on Sunday
when you have some weather like they had this weekend.
Like when you have a ton of people and a cut Friday, any weather on any day is
going to make it harder for you to finish within the TV windows, which we
know are massive problems moving those around contracts. We know all those
reasons like what they are bound by. This is a way of kind of working around that.
Some flexibility that live has like that the PGA tour should should be activated.
So I'm fine with some of that stuff. I think that creates a better product, right?
Like does it create a less interesting Friday afternoon
cut wise and all that?
Sure, it does.
I agree with that, but I think the trade off is worth it
in my opinion, so.
Okay, I'm coming back with another idea.
And this goes against probably everything you just said,
Solly, but signature events,
if they're gonna play for all the money,
I think the PGA Tour should use them as a chance to,
like I would love to see a shot clock
in one of the signature events.
I would love to see, you know, hey, make one,
no TIO relief this event, make one,
hey, we're playing rollback equipment this event.
You know, make them special in some kind of way.
So you're going to turn the Zurich, go with the Zurich playbook for the,
can't get too weird here guys.
Just be weird.
Somebody do something weird.
Be weird.
I would say, listen, the, the equipment that's never going to happen, but I would
like use a signature event.
You got what?
69, many people on the course.
Try the shot clock.
Try it.
You don't think people would tune in
and be very curious how a shot clock event would look
with like the best players in the world
playing for a lot of money.
Like, listen, everybody's showing up.
They're getting a paycheck.
Like, I don't want to hear guys bitching about that.
Yeah.
We don't have time to get it.
I think it'd be very tough to pull off logistically
through a broadcast of like,
they're showing everything on delay anyways,
like getting the shot.
So you asked for ideas.
My man is delivering.
I listen, you're right.
I'm fucking all about it, Randy.
You know what, Neil, you're right.
You're right.
I shouldn't shoot down the idea.
You asked for it.
I shouldn't.
That's on you.
I was going for some more realistic stuff,
but listen, that's fine.
We can dream as well.
You didn't say that.
You didn't say realistic.
You said ideas. Question, this is well. Like you didn't say that. You didn't say realistic. You said ideas.
Question.
This is how the signature events laid out for 2024.
Soly, do we have any clue on what they're gonna look like
in 2025?
I don't.
Maybe there is, but I've not seen a rough schedule at all
for next year.
I would assume they look quite similar.
I don't think.
Is it weird that we're done with signature events
outside of the Open Championship, of course, and And then the playoffs can't forget about the playoffs, but they're not signature events in the middle of June
No, I mean
It's it's nobody the guys want to psych slow down a little bit on playing at this point of the year
Getting super hot like I'm fine with kind of how they package it
They have good focus on them in the winter, you know getting in that important time period
It was the events were actually kind of shitty this year for weather and a lot of purposes
But once the majors hit the dirty little secret is like dude
It's way harder to get up for all fans to get in these events and like people start summer
Vacations summer plans like you just don't want to sit inside necessarily and watch a ton of golf
So I've no problem. Yeah, they've struck on paper the front load
before major season,
major season, and then you have the playoffs,
like that works like, you know, on a slideshow, you know,
is it working in practice?
I don't know, but it's, I would, you know,
I understand why they're doing it that way.
I think that probably makes the most sense.
This was the only one that was kind of like,
man, really, Like another one.
I didn't mind Heritage after Masters.
Like that one was kind of working for me.
But yeah, this was just June
with all the women's majors going on, all this stuff.
It just seems like maybe there's too much golf, but anyways.
Quickly wrapping here.
The Olympics are set.
The field is set.
Scottie Scheffler, Xander Schauffele,
Conmore Cowan, Wyndham Clark will be
Representing the United States of America, of course, no Bryson DeChambeau. It's an OWGR selection
Do we need to have we getting involved in this discourse?
Are we are we fine to move move past this one? Do we need to revisit Bryson not being on the Olympic team?
Think it's a bummer for content. I mean, you know, there'd be a, it'd be all over him on the opening ceremonies, probably
dapping up, you know, everybody.
I imagine Bryce in the Olympic Village talking to the weightlifters.
I mean, there's a lot of, a lot of missed content.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So probably a bummer.
That's my take.
Certainly a bummer.
Certainly a bummer.
We don't see him week to week playing on the PGA Tour and a lot of the reasons he made that decision. It's certainly
a bummer. Rory and Shane Lowry are representing Ireland. Ludwig and Alex Nor... I'm just gonna
go through the whole field, just some examples that I found interesting. Ludwig Oberg and
Alexander Noren will be representing Sweden. Victor Hovland and Chris Ventura will be representing
Norway. John Rahm and David Pooj will be representing Spain. Hide Hovland, Chris Ventura will be representing Norway. John Rahm and David Pooj will
be representing Spain. Hideki Matsuyama, Kida Nakajima for
Japan. Tommy Fleetwood, Matt Fitzpatrick for England, Matthew
Pavon and Victor Perez for France, Jason Day and Minwoo
Lee for Australia, Tom Kim and Ben on for Korea, Nick Taylor
and Corey Connors for Canada, Stephen Yeager and Maddie Schmidt for Germany,
Emiliano Grillo and Alejandro Tosti for Argentina and Carlos
Ortiz and Abe answer will be representing for Mexico. So live
players are not excluded from qualifying for the Olympics.
Just easier to do that through certain countries than would be
for the United States. So
I'm surprised Bryson didn't get dual citizenship somehow. You know, go play for the kingdom.
Yeah.
Try to hack it somehow.
Uh, how do you, how do they, so it's, it's OWGR based.
So basically you gotta have a guy in like the top, what hundred, like if I'm trying
to think of, um, like Jonathan Vegas for Venezuela, is he,
you know, is it, trying to figure out like what countries are eligible? If the, if a
country said like, we want to have a golf team, like do they, I haven't done any research
on this. So I was wondering if you guys knew.
Off the top of my head. So if you have, if your country has more, if you have four guys
within the top 15, that's how the U S gets four more if you have four guys within the top 15, that's how the US gets four spots is they have
four guys within the top 15. Right. So if you have you get
more than you get otherwise you get two spots for your top two
and I don't trying to pull up the Wikipedia right now on
exactly how it works for qualification but
I don't
I don't even slow us down. I'm sorry. It's all right. I should know the answer that but I don't I don't just slow us down I'm
sorry it's alright I should know the answer that but I don't know if exactly
how it's changed but well maybe we'll dive into that as we get into the
Olympics how about that why don't we have a peaceful peaceful transfer of
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All right.
Well, KPMG Sahale Country Club,
Amy Yang holds on to win her first career major championship.
She wins by three shots over a slew of women
in second place, including Jin Young Ko,
Lilia Vu and Miyu Yamashita. It was really the Amy Yang show all day today.
Listen, some majors are gonna be better than others and this is no disrespect to Amy Yang, but just kind of a
honestly a boring fourth round today. At one point on the back nine she had a seven shot lead.
a boring fourth round today. At one point on the back nine she had a seven shot lead.
The broadcast I thought was a little sleepy, just not a lot of juice out at Sahale and again that's that's because of Amy Yang. The only one that got to double digits she was 10 under par
at one point in the tournament. Just just a clinic and what I think is most interesting
a clinic out of nowhere. She did not have a top 10 on the LPGA tour this year. In fact, she's had five missed cuts
She's missed her last two cuts coming into this week
But everything just clicked for
Specifically today. I mean she comes out. She birdies the first hole. She chips in for birdie on number five
Lauren Hartledge and
the aforementioned Miyu Yamashita were in the final group along with Amy. And Lauren,
actually, I was kind of rooting for Lauren. Lauren Hartledge was the one I was most curious
how she would perform under pressure. I believe she horseshoe-lipped a birdie on number six and then proceeded to double seven, double eight.
Yamashita kind of gave a few shots back
and that was it for that.
So I'm getting a message here.
Am I bad? Is my connection bad?
You guys tell me.
Yeah, well, it's not great, Big.
We're gonna have to have you leave and come back
or something.
People are wondering if you AI generated, Big.
Maybe, maybe.
Mike is not cooperating.
Why don't you just jump out and refresh? Let's see if that works.
The crazy thing about Amy Yang though is that she's, this might be her first major championship,
but she has a slew of top tens of major championships. This is her 21st
top ten coming into the week. Two runner-ups in US Women's Open. That was in 2012, 2015. Of course,
last year she won the season-ending CME Tour Championship, her biggest win to date. Today,
that win netted her $1.56 million bucks, by far the biggest check that she's ever made and that like comes to
her across all of her years of playing professional 18 years total 340 starts she's grossed $15.44
million bucks. The vast majority of that comes from CME and then the KPMG things that she's
gained in the last eight months, it's truly unprecedented stuff.
What did you guys think of the championship?
Obviously Big touched on the fact that it was a sleepy
ending, but overall, I mean, we had Lexi in contention.
We had a Jinyoung Ko siding at a major championship.
It felt like there was a lot of things building for this to
be an epic final round.
And then it just kind of laid really, really flat.
Yeah, it's, I was super keen to see Sahale.
I wanted to see, you know, the images were fantastic.
We talked a lot about that on Friday night and we talked about it on Wednesday.
Just excited to watch the style of play.
But I think I ended up at why I don't love watching tree line golf.
After Thursday and Friday, it felt very repetitive and kind of the same
thing on repeat and whether you know, I think there is more
elevation change and interesting things about that golf course
that aren't going to be on display when you're taking
everything from a tower shot like the bare bones broadcast
was and it, it fell quite flat if I'm being quite honest, was
rooting for especially in contrast to Lancaster and how
good everything
was around that NBC was great. The golf course was great. They delivered on the drama there
was drama presented. This was just kind of opposite end of the spectrum in terms of excitement.
Now that's a credit to Amy Yang like like Randy said there's no taking nothing away
from her for playing incredible golf. I think it was I shot a video at one of these KPMG
is back in 2021. I went around and asked a bunch of LPGA players,
like who is your favorite swing to watch
of other LPGA players?
And her name, I was not, I have to apologize,
not really quite familiar with her game.
Her name came up so many times among her peers
in terms of like, you know,
even asking some of the top players in the game,
like who's swing do you love to watch?
Like Amy Yang, go watch Amy Yang swing.
And it's just, I was kind of like, huh, that's interesting
because she's never won a major, you know, it's not the name that comes rolling off your
tongue when you talk about top players in the game, but has a lot of respect among her
peers. You can see how many players, especially her fellow Koreans, were waiting around by
the 18th green, you know, to douse her in the champagne when she finished the round
and all that. So credit to her. But overall, overall this was this was far from my favorite major championship. I
Think I'd a comment on the you know, the course it's like it makes an aw it made an awesome first impression
Early in the week like whoa. Look at that. Yes, you know like the unbelievable the golden thing like yeah beautiful trees and
You know, it was very striking.
And I had a friend over here this afternoon.
I had the golf on.
I was like, Whoa, what's that course?
You know, I feel like everybody's first impression was like, Whoa, that place looks sweet.
And then I think the trees also drown out a little bit of the crowd noise.
You know, they almost act as like a muffler on everything.
And you don't get the sight lines.
So you can't really get like a great drone shot of like,
look at all these people.
So it didn't look like there was a lot of people there.
So all of that, I think adds to the sleepiness
of the broadcast, you know, as well as like, you know,
every time I looked up at the scoreboard, it was like,
oh, there's a seven shot lead.
And, you know, it started to dwindle a little bit,
but not only that, but like Nellie missing the cut
in kind of a like dramatic fashion on Friday
was just kind of a gut punch. I think just for, you know, for me as a fan trying to get out the
road to 11 majors, you know, another speed bump there. So that was, I think there was just some
weird stuff, not a lot of recognizable, like to a casual fan names on there. Like I saw Lynn Grant,
like you said, a lot of uncompetitive top tens where it was this guy like oh man
Like this isn't really there's not a lot of juice here
And one of my least favorite things about golf course set up is when you have firm greens and soft run-ups
I think that that
Ends up with like the whole point of firm greens
It's like that you need to use the contours outside of the greens to get your ball close to the hole and when it's
Really firm on the greens and soften the fronts
You just end up with balls rolling to a
lot of back of the greens and that that contributed to a
little bit of sleepiness. But welcome back big horse.
Course I would love to play. I would too. I was like, Oh man, I
would love to check that place out as a player. I think I'd
have to hit wedges off some of those par five tee boxes just
like get it in play, like just to the front of the fairway to
figure my way out. I don't think I'm getting off the 18th tee
box from that back tee from,
looked even narrower from the holes they were playing.
Thank you there.
Yeah, I don't know if I'm any better.
Yeah, I don't know if this, okay.
All right, appreciate you guys picking me up there.
I think one of the other big takeaways,
Neil, you mentioned Nellie, hugely disappointed.
Shocked second round from her shooting 80.
I mean, just, just horrible.
I might not get it anymore.
I mean, let's just ride with it though.
Okay.
Why I was just going to say the, the, the, the other big takeaway from this week,
Lily of who being back and healthy, uh, she had to withdraw from the first major,
the Chevron injury prevented her from making the start at Lancaster. So this was really her first major of the year for her to didn't have the
best first round, but hung in there and then
I think it's a really good thing, obviously for her, but also for just announcing like,
Hey, don't forget about me. Like she was the player of the year last year for good reason won two majors so great to see that uh we don't know she went 40 she went out
43 and came in and 31 i i just uh i wish that could have been reversed just for the sheer theater
we got what we're coming second mound visit we're pulling you we're pulling you i know you want to
stay in this game.
I know you do, but I'm the manager of this ball club
and I need that baseball.
You don't have your stuff today.
You just don't have your stuff.
You don't have your control.
You have your stuff, you don't have your control.
Your mic, you're getting so jacked up,
your mic can't handle it.
I'm sorry guys, I don't know what's going on today.
It's, yeah, anyway, okay, sorry.
Too many takes involved in that. I can try know what's going on today. It's yeah. Anyway, okay. Sorry too many takes involved in that I
Can try to pick you up off that one
I caught some of that Lexi Thompson's up and down final how 43 31 to get you know to finish this tournament
In a tie for ninth again, not a whole lot of drama out there other than Amy Yang made a little interesting
those last couple holes she dumped one in the water on 17 and then
other than Amy Yang made a little interesting those last couple holes she dumped one in the water on 17 and then
it's good went for the par 5 18th and 2 with the three shot lead and I was like literally the only thing I could go wrong is you could hit a ball into one of these pines and it never
Come down and she hit it directly into a pine and one of the spotters gave the touchdown signal
And I I don't know if that meant like hey, that's up in the tree
Like that's not the sign you would you would give the safe side if it came down
I was like, oh my god, if she loses the ball the tree
this is gonna be one of the worst collapses of all time, but you know, not much drama in the finish and
Yeah, there's a couple finishes noted here Yuka Sasa was not in this when she finished 68th
Tyatitokun shots Saturday 78 on Saturday. She finished t52
Leonna McGuire went away on the weekend.
She shot 75 76 to finish T 24.
Heard to me my draft, sorry, we're so,
so many numbers over par after we did that on Friday show.
It was so bad.
Yeah, we did a draft on Friday.
You guys let me, you guys let me get Amy Yang for $2.
And I ended up winning that one.
So I'm quite proud of that one.
But yeah, we, I mean, if you listen to our show on Friday, and I ended up winning that one so I'm quite proud of that one but yeah we I
mean if you listen to our show on Friday I really just like I would love to
reheat a ton of the takes I have about how this tournament was presented but I
mean you could find that there and you can kind of predict exactly how that'll
be but yeah just no graphics no absolutely nothing to make you think
this was a major championship is just extremely frustrating predictable
Predictable time windows Nellie quarters first round was not on television
She shot a 69 and that one and then proceeded to shoot an 81 when she was in the TV window on Friday afternoon
Which was sick, but it didn't finish in primetime played threesomes
on on the weekend on Saturday and Sunday to fit it in the TV time and
commercial free final hour was pretty decent when the golf tournament was already over at that point, but just
Women's golf is gonna stay like exactly where it is if this is how it gets treated and like there's just no there's no chance for actual
growth
If if it's gonna get treated to be this much of a secondary, not, I don't even know if it's secondary.
What's below secondary, third option?
They did have a pregame setup though.
They had a little live from Dory.
They did.
Kira was hosting, so just to elevate your SIG events,
at least they're taking your advice on that.
Yeah, they were doing that
while they were on the air on Peacock.
So instead of showing the live call.
I know, I know, I know.
Oh man.
And I will say, we were talking about coverage
a little bit earlier and you're saying like
how everything is washed out because of the tower shot,
Solly, I think this is one of those weird courses
where everything would have been,
and I know they will never do this because it's more
man hours than everything else,
but like if things are that high vertically, you have to bring them down so you actually feel like
what it's like being there and more handhelds than everything else. But the amount of investment that
was clearly shown this week, it was shocking flipping over from CBS's coverage of the Travelers to this and
my wife watches a lot of golf with me both men's and women's and
She was all pumped up about this final round and she's like man This is this is boring and I'm like, yeah, it was like you you just didn't hear the pop and the announcers
He wasn't really exciting golf. It wasn't exciting
It wasn't really exciting golf. It wasn't exciting shots from any cameras
or anything else like that.
It just felt so flat, which sucks
because the Pacific Northwest is so awesome.
There's amazing golf courses.
There's amazing golf fans.
And like, it's a place where you wanna see
more professional golf be hosted at.
And it just wasn't there.
And it sucked.
There were a lot of people there too like yeah
Well the gangles they had on cameras didn't show that it felt like it was always kind of a tree back Cody
I think he nailed it on like the elevation of the cameras there like the best shots that you know
Some of the photography I saw early in the week
They were all low shots of like silhouettes of backswings with these tall trees like, you know in the background like really striking stuff
So ground level probably would have would have helped a little more.
It's an entertainment product.
And look, if I'm KPMG, I gotta be pretty frustrated
with what I'm getting out of my partners in this event
from PGA of America and NBC.
Like it's, they've invested, we talked about this Friday,
but they've invested so much money and effort
into this event to take it from, you know,
basically save the event, you know, they've got it from $2
million purse to over $10 million purse now like they've
done incredible things with this event truly and made it a major
championship. And just not getting the cooperation from the
people that are responsible for, you know, for adding into that.
But big any chance we got you back on a better, better setup
here?
for adding into that, but big, any chance we got you back on a better set up here?
I'm scared.
I don't know, I've switched to my AirPods.
Is the audio at all better?
It's not glitching out for now, so.
Okay.
No, you guys, I mean, we don't have to spend a lot of time.
You guys perfectly stated my frustrations with the.
And the AirPods are still still bringing I don't think
it's the audio processing that's the issue I think it's a your computer what's pushing
the actual he's got he doesn't have enough horses in the back yeah for sure on the on
the laptop we mentioned everybody out there meeting Amy obviously celebrating her first
major championship, but they
mentioned on the broadcast that she was kind of like that next generation that
came from Sayri Pak and the huge boom in golf in Korea and how she moved to the
United States, well first left Korea and went to Australia and then moved over to
the United States when she was very young to chase this dream with her mom
and dad. And it was just so cool because you could see that even though the
victories and everything haven't really been there in her career, like she's been a mentor for like,
you know, we're talking about multiple generations now or decades worth of professionals that have
come from Korea and like they're outpouring, you know, love and support there. I saw A-Lib Kim,
like a social video of her like out there grabbing some of these camera and like taking pictures of her during
Those final holes like and just like it goes to show the difference between the LPGA and the PGA tour again
And like how it truly is a community for these people and it's it brings me back to like all the old stories that we had
you know heard Trevino tell us Sully of of what it was like traveling and caravans and everything else like that, because that's still how the LPGA Tour is.
And it was just really cool to see.
We have the, the Evian is coming up here at a different date, I believe for Olympic purposes.
It'll be here at July 11th through the 14th.
If you consider that, if you celebrate the Evian and consider that a major that is coming
up next.
And then AIG Women's Open, the old course August 22nd through 25th so a little gap until we
get to that one. I'm very very curious. We're gonna be there. We're pumped. Big and so excited. Cody will be there for that. I'm envious of that.
That's gonna be fantastic. Good question. JRO 1523 what Pacific Northwest
course would be a good fit for a men's major slash tour event? Chambers Bay.
Of course give it
another shot got new greens. It's frickin incredible golf
course. I haven't even been to it. But I it's my favorite
course I've never played. I think that would be a worthwhile
thing to revisit. Anything else from KPMG before we move off
that? We have live Nashville, Randy does the LPGA.
Neil is our resident live expert.
He is a big live head.
That's what he spent most of the weekend watching.
How are you?
Well, what happened at Liv Nashville, Neil?
Listen, I was enjoying flipping back.
It was a lot of golf today, but you know,
on commercial break it was nice to flip back and forth.
I mean, Hatten runs away with it 19 under.
So he wins it on the solo side.
And then he had Mr. Horsefield in second at minus 13. My boy Joaquin, Westwood, Rom,
DeChambeau all tied at minus 12. Rom and Hatton were 1-2. And Legion 23 kind of ran away with things 40 under for the team aspect. The Crushers
surged ahead to take second place. Torque in third at minus 34 and the Majestics showing signs of
life. Westwood leading the charge for the Majestics, the Majestics, whatever you want to call them.
I couldn't tell if that was a bit or if that was serious.
I love listening to pronounced Torque on the broadcast.
Unfortunately, TC's cliques down in tie for six
with the Rippers at minus 19.
Listen, fans look like it was a fun experience.
Had some weather, so they had to stop
towards the middle of the back nine. But I mean, it looked hot, really hot out there, but it looked like they was a fun experience. It had some weather, so they had to stop towards the middle of the back nine.
It looked hot, really hot out there, but it looked like they had a good crowd.
Bryson's running the rope line, giving everybody high fives.
It looks like a good in-person experience.
I think it's smart for Liv to go to Nashville.
That feels like a good sports town, good market for them.
I'm curious to see what things will look like in Chicago because that also feels like a
market that the PGA Tour, they were there for BMW last year, but I mean, big, big golf market and
big summertime vibes. So going to Chicago later this year, and then I think they have the team championship down in your neck of the woods, Cody, at Merida later this year. Those are the next two US-based ones. But Liv is off until mid-July,
it looks like. They're going to Valderrama. I think July 12th is their next event. So they get
a little break here coming up. Keep the boys fresh. What did I see today? I feel like, I mean,
Hatton is good. Hatton played really, really solid all day. ROM kind of had a freak out.
Hatton's good. Hatton played really, really solid all day. Rom had a freak out. I don't really know what hole, honestly. They have it in the top corner, 10 to go, 9 to go, but the way they
broadcast it, they just really jump around. It's basically a running highlight reel.
Sometimes they're focused on the team stuff. It's got to be hard for the broadcast because
they're splitting their attention between the individual and the team aspect of it.
So it feels a bit frenetic when you're watching it.
So for me, when I'm watching the travelers,
you're watching these guys come through like the same holes.
And so you have a little bit of context
as you jump back and forth of like, all right, cool.
Here comes, you know, the final group.
I just saw the group ahead play this, you know,
reachable par four, but you know, with the shotgun start, I, as the group ahead play this reachable par four.
With the shotgun start, as a viewer, I do struggle with that.
I think for on-site, that could be very fun.
The highlight was obviously Ram hitting the chloroform ball just straight left into a
lake.
Before the ball has even apexed,
he turns around and looks above him.
And the shot tracer, if you see the screen,
the shot tracer is like right over his face,
but he's like looking up at, I think a drone.
Oh, it's a drone.
Starts dog cussing the drone every event.
Every tournament.
Every event with these drones.
It's fucking incredible.
Right in my back swing, fucking drones every time.
Yeah, so he made double here.
And he and Hatton at the time were, you know,
one two, and then Rom fell back after this and kind of lost his marbles on the drone.
The funny part is, I mean, I was watching the broadcast mostly afternoon. I didn't see
a lot of drone shots. So I was like, well, where was that shot? Like, you know, like
it wasn't even for us, you know? So it's like, Rom got pretty, you know, hot under the
collar with that one. So that was one thing. What else did I see? I think John Catlin might be taking
Charles Hall a third spot on the crushers. He's been filling in for CH3, but he played really
well today. He had, he got a lot of camera time. He's like the only guy out there wearing pants
and he's wearing the sun sleeve. I think he takes sun protection very, very seriously, but he's got like the, you know,
nineties kind of hater blockers going kind of a Richie Rurensky look to him or, um, I
don't know, like kind of those, I don't know.
Our guy James Driscoll used to do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he had the full on like Sonny, sun sleeves, and he was wearing pants and
he was like not messing with the sun. Everybody else was rocking their shorts though. What
else? I thought the all black look for team Torque was, was pretty cocky in that Nashville
heat. But you know,
Did they get a bunch of penalties today?
Credit to them, man. They were, they were decked out, you know, just, just bringing
that heat under, you know heat under the heat dome. I
was kind of worried about Team Torque, but they came in third, so good for them. So that's
my Nashville update. It's just hard for me to, it truly, truly is sincerely watching
the tournament, hard for me to get into it because we're bouncing around so much. I struggle
with a lot going on on the screen. I'm trying to care. Should I care about
the team thing? Should I care about the individuals? Maybe I shouldn't care about anything. Maybe that's
how I should watch it. It's just like cool golf shot in a vacuum is kind of what we're going for.
But I mean, honestly, I would like to like the in-person stuff seem like party hall seem pretty
fun bumping jams. Seems like a good in-person experience. So there you have it.
Some of the events do seem like a good in-person experience.
A hundred percent.
Houston did not look like it.
Houston most certainly did not, but they know how to put on like an outdoor event.
Like that's not the question.
Nashville looked like it was like they're happy to have high-level golf in their neighborhood and
more power to them. And like, I think that's like, I think that's a
good strategy. Pick these, I'm not going to say second tier markets, but markets that are not
getting a PGA Tour stop. There's plenty of them. And so there is a spot for that. I just think that
from a TV standpoint, it's not something that I'm like Jones into watch. Yeah. Which is kind of
watch. Yeah, which is kind of a big part of the battle, right? Of, you know, if if I was 25 years old, and like an event
came, they were going to Chicago, yeah, right. And you
probably wouldn't think twice. Yeah, sure. Why wouldn't I go?
Like, of course I go. It's probably pretty fun. I can do
again, I always net out it. It wasn't worth disrupting the
entire golf world for these events to exist. I don't think
so. But some people most certainly do. And if it's right
there on your doorstep, and you want to attend it
like I think that's a very reasonable conclusion to reach. But I feel like
I still feel like they got to decide are they a serious golf product or not like
because I don't know how you could have music playing and still have one of your
top players screaming about the drones flying above right? Like it's
a fucking exhibition right? Like it doesn't it adds up to whatever at the end of the year but there's no points on
the line there's no qualification on the line for anything like I just feel like
they need to embrace being brace the party hall embrace everybody having a
good time brace everybody high-fiving Bryson running up and along the rope
line high-fiving I don't it just seems like at times they're still trying to
pretend to be a serious product. That that feels like a strictly a ROM problem.
Like I don't see any of the honesty
of the other players don't seem to be.
But it's an announcer problem too
of just like how incredible the golf is.
Everything's just so over the top in that.
It's just like, no, just like have fun.
Just like treat like the American century
more than it is like this propaganda film almost.
It's kind of where I,
that's the part that turns me off, right?
It goes from harmless fun
to like I'm just not buying what you know the dramatics of the broadcast do wear on you a
little bit right I'm telling you how how incredible everything's incredible so then nothing feels
incredible it's kind of where yeah I do get that vibe as well sorry so um like you said considering
we just got done complaining about a little bit uh needing some more excitement over on the NBC LPGA cover.
I think there's a middle ground.
Yeah.
I know, I know, we sound like we.
That's what I'm saying, but embrace what makes you different.
Like embrace that and do that rather than just kind of
having a foot in both camps, I think.
And Rom, dude, you took the money, bro.
This is where you're gonna be playing your golf.
Like you can't do both of these things either. It a really big turn off and it's so hard too because like
what is best ultimately for live is to for the teams and to only talk about the teams but like
the players still like desperately need the individual side of it and until there's something
whether negotiations or process of coming together what not. Like in order for Liv to be successful
in what everybody wants it kind of to be,
it has to only be the team thing.
Yeah, totally.
I completely agree.
We go to Andalusia in July 12th through 14th,
as mentioned, then London or JCB Golf and Country Club,
July 26th through 28th, Greenbrier August 16th through 18th.
Yeah, I forgot about the Greenbrier.
Chicago, there's three to 15. Yep, I forgot about the Greenbrier. Chicago, 3-15.
Yep, and then five events left.
Anything else?
Looking ahead, Rocket Mortgage slash vacation week.
Perfectly targeted to be Rocket Mortgage week for your boy.
This is the DOW championship is in Midland, Michigan on LPJ.
And that is about it.
We got a new-
Well, firstly for the 313 challenge.
Oh, that's right.
That does remain the really good thing.
That you have to-
It's the white whale in golf.
Yeah, the eagle par five, make a hole in one,
and then birdie a par four for some reason.
And it's like not really a huge payout.
It's like not really a huge payout. It's like three, it's like
313 K. It's really sick. That is coming. We have a new narrative pod. We'll be dropping this week
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