No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 867 - Big Shot Bob wins the Scottish plus an Evian recap, thoughts on Keegan as Ryder Cup Captain and more

Episode Date: July 15, 2024

A year after falling a shot short of winning his home open, Robert MacIntyre wins the Scottish Open after a fortuitous break on the sixteenth hole and clutch putting to win by a shot over Adam Scott. We also talk through Ludvig's week, Rory's return and everything else from The Renaissance Club.   Then it's onto our review of the Evian where Ayaka Furue wins while our NLU Young Hitter Lauren Coughlin finished fourth. We also talk Keegan Bradley as the 2025 USA Ryder Cup Captain, LIV's finish in Spain, Bryson's war of words with his former coach, some thoughts on Olympic golf and more.   If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining The Nest: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at nolayingup.com/join   Support our partners: Titleist fanduel.com/nlu  Pinehurst Resort Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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lot of hot melt in there in a good way. Just it sounds a lot more like a tour driver. You're in the you're in the GT two or the GT three. Three. Yeah. As soon as it comes in the mail, you're like, man, I want to go play more golf. That's this has got me excited to get out and play a lot more golf. So winners from around the world, Robert McIntyre wins by one over Adam Scott. Some good fortune in the way of getting there. Uh, Iyaka Fudeway wins by one at the Evian over Stephanie, uh, Kyriaku. I've never had to say that name out loud. I've only read that one many times.

I think, I think you got it right. Randy, I think we called that. We said that Iyaka was going to win a major this year, I think on one of our LPGA pods. And in fairness, we did. You see, I got to check the tapes, but of course we did. TC says a lot of people are going to win majors, but the ISCO championship is still ongoing as of the time we're recording this. And then the, the, uh, Kip Poppert, is he really? Kip Poppert from England won the US men's adaptive open this week and Bailey Bish won the US women's adaptive open. Sergio in the fireballs also won at live on to Lucia in a playoff,

which we'll get some of that under bond. Lahiri had a tough, tough go of it with a 18 inch putt to win the tournament. But a little run by even if you didn't catch the end of the Scottish open, and this also goes for TC as well. Ludwig Oberg came into the first round, 18 inch putt to win the tournament. But a little run by, even if you didn't catch the end of the Scottish Open, and this also goes for TC as well, Ludwig Oberg came into the final round with a two shot lead over Bob McIntyre. There was, I'd say just a fair amount of scuffling

in general from the entire board on the most part of this day. Of course got interesting near the end. The most of the golf was pretty mediocre up to the final few holes, but Adam Scott stuffed it on the par three 14th to take a one shot lead at 17 under over Aberg. Oberg, excuse me. Oberg then Bogey.

Oh, bear. Oh, it's Oberg now, TC. Don't be confusing me now. He bogeyed the 13th hole. Adam Scott ended up having a two shot lead, but Scott Bogey the 15th hole. Ludwig had two great shots into the par four, but lipped the birdie putt. Three to go Adam Scott is at 1600 and Ludwig and McIntyre 1500 McIntyre drained a long bomb birdie putt on the 14th hole and then Adam Scott makes birdie on 16 hits it up on the par five and big shot Bob

we're gonna pause on this one off the tee on the par 5 16th pulls his drive and you know, I forget if it was Adam Scott or somebody in the group in front of them had hit a ball on a similar line and it stopped well short of the deep part of the fescue and it really wasn't that bad over there. But Bob's drive got far enough that it got into some very deep fescue and it is like wedge out stuff. It is nasty thigh high. It is. It's very green. It's lush. It's thick. out stuff. It is nasty. Thigh high. It's very green. It's lush.

It's thick. And TC, you're not gonna believe like what happens next because he gets in, he takes a stance and then backs away from his ball and takes a massive practice swing in the thick rough and clears out a ton of the rough. Like a big divot of fescue gets out of his way. How is that legal?

Well, and it's right to where he was standing. So he now gets back into his stance. And now with the change in stance because of the grass that's been torn away, he, and because he had metal cleats on, he hears- Yes, that's what they said. The feeling of a sprinkler head

underneath all of the thigh high fescue where he's gonna stand from the right side of the ball as a lefty. Why is there a sprinkler head 40 yards into the rough on a links course? I wondered that as well. A full links course. I'm sorry, I don't want to offend anyone.

I typed that same tweet, TC, and I've deleted links out of it because it's not a real links. But so he, I mean, he's like in shock when he, about when he says, he's like, you're not going to believe this, I don't know exactly what he said. And he calls in a rules official. They literally talk about it like he found gold,

like he struck gold, you know? Like it's this unexpected discovery that he's made. It's like the North Sea oil here in Scotland. Exactly. But he asked the question, the question of the referee, like, I'm only discovering this because of my practice swing. Is that a problem? And he's like, no, that's not a, it was a DP World Tour,

a British, I don't know who the name of the official was, but it was a British referee that came in, not one of the PGA Tour ones that, you know, give them the relief on everything. And he ends up getting a free drop into a super clean, mega clean lie from 248, no more fescue problems, and hits it to six feet and makes eagle.

It was one of the most, like, I don't know what like the actual issue with this is here, by the letter of the law, I still don't know if he broke a broke a rule by I guess my question now becomes look if you stay on sprinkler head, that's an incredible luck like a stroke of fortune. That's part of the rule like we can discuss about maybe how that rule should be tweaked. I get that. But what I'm going to throw a hypothetical at you guys. Let's say I have a terrible lie where there's a small bush where I'm going to be standing and it's going to greatly affect my stance and I back away from it and I take a practice swing and I just destroy this bush. You could take baseball swings.

Leaves go flying everywhere, roots fly up, all of this. Now all of a sudden my stance is not impaired. How would that not be a penalty? Like he changed his stance. I don't understand that at all. I don't know the rule either, Sully. I get so scared, like even trying to take a stance in like foliage or weeds or bushes. If you hit like a branch, I'm like, oh my God, like I didn't like knock a branch down. I just hit the branch. Nothing fell off the tree. Like, yeah, like I feel like I'm on, Oh my God, like I didn't like knock a branch down. I just hit the branch and nothing fell off the tree. Like, yeah, like I feel like I'm on pins and needles.

Exactly. It's like I can't disturb anything about this. I try to be as, you know, light and light out as possible. I thought that was just kind of like you don't want to disturb anything. It was kind of the prevailing rule, quote unquote. And the rule, I believe it, I contacted somebody that's involved in rules, not involved with any tour rules,

but he said, a practice swing, if it improves your conditions affecting the stroke, being the lie stance or area of intended swing, that's a penalty. And it affected his stance, enough to have uncovered a sprinkler head underneath it. Now, he also mentioned it may have been a penalty if he

didn't get relief after that point because now he goes to stand and he never played the stroke from where the stance improved. And now that might've been a penalty if he would have played it. But now he's taking the free job. He's at six feet. So he took the practice swing before he discovered the sprinkler head. Correct. That's what uncovered the sprinkler head. Yeah. Like removing a ton of grass. That's where we get back to like, I know intent. A lot of the time Bale's golfers out as far as like, well, like what was the intent, right? Well, the intent in that case,

before he established relief was that he was going to play that shot. And as that's, you know, like the intent there is, he is basically altering the, you know, stance and the conditions in which he's playing the shot. So I'm with you guys. And I'm, you know, I'm happy to check with a lot of the Scots here. You know, I'm happy to check with a lot of the Scotts here. For being like, guys, wait a second here. Like, go do a little straw poll around Presswick TC.

I got Turnberry tomorrow. So I got 36 at Turnberry tomorrow. So that might be a different story over there. It might be talking about that place might be locked down over there, But you know, Presswick is like backing up a little bit. It does seem a little bit predetermined that, or just like sheer force of will that Bob won the Scottish Open. And I wanted to get so excited about this. After what happened last year,

like I wanted, like it was otherwise awesome. Eagling 16 and then he rolls in a 20 foot birdie putt dramatically on 18 to win by one over Adam Scott. Like if you ignore the drop and the practice swing and all of that, it was freaking incredible. But man, it completely, that free drop completely altered the rest of that golf tournament, right? And I know he's spent a lot of time talking about TIO

and all of this stuff. Like what doesn't happen with TIO, so if there's a scenario where you are totally boned by trees or whatever it is, and you can't even reach the TIO, in theory, the rules official's supposed to say, no, that obstacle's not in your way. It doesn't drastically alter the next shot in the way that this one did, right?

And so again, I don't know what the fix is here other than like, can you make, so like TIO is a judgment call, right? For the rules official has to come in and say like, is this TIO? And you know, for obvious ones, they don't need that, but like they make a judgment call on that. Can you add something in the rules to make a judgment call

to be like, you have to fundamentally recreate the lie if you're getting relief like this. And that's a drastic rule change, but like, holy shit, man. That's what the DP World Tour or at least the RNA is done in spots, right? Like when they did the TIO drop zone at Port Rush, right? Where that was in like the cabbage. I mean, that was in a crazy. So I think that's been kind of a trend over

here. But yeah, that's, you know, it just sucks whether it's TIO, like when, you know, say ROM at Riviera the one year or it just sucks when it feels like something that wasn't going to affect the shot or the integrity of the shot drastically affects the outcome of the tournament. Drastically. One by one. Yeah. I guess that's like a rub of the green thing.

Like Ludwig had a crazy rub of the green earlier in the week where his ball landed on another guy's ball from like 150, 170 yards out. That's just bad luck, right? And I guess you could say the same with Bob of like, that's just really good luck. But I'm more concerned. Like why the fuck is there a sprinkler head? It's one of many in Scotland of all places. Like it rains here a lot. And I don't know why you're watering the, I, I, I don't know. It just, it, it, like I said, I wanted to really love all of the, all of what happened there. Cause it was an awesome moment. It was dramatic on 18 with everybody around the green and his emotion.

And it just felt marred by it. I'm not even like positive. I'm not, I don't think I'm mad at Bob in this scenario as much as I am. Like the practice swing part still feels weird to me. But then just even without that, even if you'd have just walked up there and gotten a free drop out of that, it just it just all feels icky. You know, I just, so I guess my question would be how how would it have worked if

let's say he goes up and plays the shot and didn't realize that there's a sprinkler head. And then as he's playing the shot realize like, like he plays the shot and he realizes as he's playing the shot, there's a sprinkler head there. It's too I mean, once you played it, yeah, you don't have to take it. Yeah, you don't have to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you would have to identify what you're taking relief from prior to like, let's say he slipped on the sprinkler head while he was playing the shot. That wouldn't have been. Yeah. So anyways, a second win, second national open in just a couple

months for a, for big shot. Yeah. Commonwealth open. Right. You know, his second national open in just a couple months for Big Shot Bob. Commonwealth open, right? Yeah. You know, his own national open, I'm sure it's going to be a hell of a celebration. Part of me still thinks like the golf gods did owe him a little bit of one from last year. It just, he really got a raw, not a raw deal last year, but just getting pipped at the post as he said, like, I did want him to win one of these things, but just that way that it happened was not so good.

Going back, I was watching till 15. So it was like, we're in the clubhouse at Presswick and it was probably, it was like the golf gods looking down and say, TC, you do not need to see this live. I mean, such a sacred place. What a ruin your whole trip. If that happened to Tom Kim, you would have had an aneurysm. You would have freaked out. I would have marched my ass over there.

I would have waited for him in the players parking lot tomorrow morning when he gets here. But going back, I think I like the putt on 14 that he rolled in, the birdie putt on the par three. I mean, that was like 30, what, 30, 35 footer. Oh yeah, it was a putt. Yeah, I mean, he putted his ass off down the stretch. And then, so then on 18, was it just a no doubt?

So he had a pitching wedge in from 167. He hit it, you know, just to the center of the green, he had 22 feet and it fell over the front edge. I thought he left it short. Like it was really, really close to not going in and it fell over the front edge. And he went nuts. Ludwig hadn't hold out yet.

Like it was, it was dramatic. Like it was an excellent, excellent putt and finish. But again, the whole, the whole drop thing just seemed to, at least like on Twitter just seemed to be like hanging over the whole situation. No, it just sucks because again, it's like Bob hit all the shots, even, even after the drop, right? And we, we, obviously you can feel how you feel about the drop, but he still hit an unbelievable second shot and made eagle. And so it, yeah, it sucks because it just takes away

from what should be pure celebration, pure recognition of like, holy shit, that was amazing. But because of this like bureaucratic situation where, you know, hey, maybe not the spirit, but by the technicality letter of the law, like, yeah, just it takes a little bit away from it in totality, I think. And that's a shame for everybody. I think if there's one guy that you want to win a national open, it'd be like a Scotsman winning the Scottish Open, sure, an

Irishman winning the Irish open. Like you could say Canadian winning the Canadian open, but like, no. That was cool. Just because you hate Canadians doesn't mean you gotta just throw that slide in there. Come on, man. There's so much cornier and stuff. I was like, the Scots. Oh, don't do this. Bob is just, you know, I don't know. Like he's like, like, love him or loathe him. I know you guys don't feel strong, like, like strong emotions when you watch Bob play. But he's, he truly is one

of those guys, like, I feel like he does play like real golf. He plays, he like, he's a proper player. He's greater than the sum of his parts. It feels like, and I think he's a sportsman, right? He's, like I know when Jock McVicker, the old sports writer here in Scotland passed away, he drove down from Oban, down to Dun Averdee, probably two, two and a half hours down, and stood on the side of the road as his hearse passed by and just tipped his cap and then drove back to Oban. And I think there's something to be said with that

where it's cool. Like he's he's moving back to Scotland, like he's getting the hell out of Orlando, which my thing to him would be like, well, why did you move to Orlando? Like there's other places that somebody failed you there. Yeah. Yeah. But but I think there's something to be said for the intangibles in golf, right? The stuff that that, you know, makes you feel something or makes makes you makes you tick as a golfer that's not necessarily, hey, my swing is on form or, you know, my putting is dialed. It's like,

no, like, I feel, you know, having his dad on the bag in Canada or playing in his his home national open even on a kind of a non linkslinks golf course. And he just, it's like sheer force of will. And like, no, like this means as much to him as probably winning a major outside of the open championship. Right?

Yeah, amen. And like, you know, I've not been super high on his golf game, but it's looking like I'm more and more wrong about that, right? I mean, it's, I do think the conditions and scenarios got to be right for him, you know, to be ultra, ultra competitive, but he's compiling quite the resume to last year. He was not this level of player. Like he was not playing golf like this down the stretch to heading to the writer cup at all. Right. That was, uh,

you were, you were dreading him being on the writer cup team. You were worried about him going into the writer cup. I know guys on the team were dreading him just as far as his physical profile and everything like that. But yeah, watching him like I watched a ton of the golf on Friday and Saturday, especially and even just seeing the way that because he does like he marries up almost modern, like a modern swing with kind of creative play, like he used some of the slopes, especially on like, say what you want about

Renaissance, there are some spots, like there's some flourishes there, especially down the stretch where you can use a bank here or there or like even, you know, it was really soft and kind of, you know, just really slow this year, right? But even then, like you can take it off the bank and play creatively if you want to, which I feel like brings out the best in him. Right. René, it's kind of get punched a little bit today. I mean, just the cold, I guess, and a little bit of the wind. I mean, some of those par fours, it must have been a tough wind direction just because some of those par fours played really meaty. Morical was hitting lumber into some of them and guys hitting long irons into those first

couple. It's still not my favorite golf course in Scotland, not not even close. It's just fits the bill. We will maybe we've litigated this every year after the Scottish Open, but it you know, it fits the bill for infrastructure and the host and the money all makes sense to have this event there. And that's why it is that way. But it was more entertaining this year than it has been in years past. I think it still lacks a lot of character, but and it's but it very much so was

not designed to be a PGA Tour slash DP World Tour golf course. And so you see some of that of like, some of the spots you can miss around the green still are just not punishing enough. But I mean, overall, I'm less and less mad about I would love to have went to a true links golf course. But like, man, I get just with, again, where technology has brought us and blah, blah, blah. It just seems less and less realistic, the more you ask for it. So

I'd love to see them at least like in years when let's say you do it maybe in years when when the open is down in like Northwest England, or at St. George's or Port Rush, or wherever you go, you know, you have the Scottish Open at Castle Stewart or like you move it around those years. And then when the open is in Scotland, you just have it Renaissance. Like I think there's, like I thought Castle Stewart played awesome. And I know, you know, Genesis and everybody stays there, you know, near either on site or right next door. And it's a great thing. And you get a stronger field because guys are comfortable and all of that. And it's a great thing. And you get a stronger field because guys are

comfortable and all of that. And it's, you know, it's kind of a good warm up. But yeah, I do wish there was a little bit of variety of like, Hey, have it have it here like two out of three years, every third year, move it around a little bit, you know, because it is, it just feels like you're kind of short shifting Scottish golf at large. Before we move on, I just wanted to mention, I thought Bob McIntyre's victory speech or interview I should say, sorry, his interview speech with Amanda on CBS, it touched TC, it touched on a lot of the things you were saying about him as just, you know, I thought he really conveyed in there was like an intensity to that interview where you could just tell

how much it meant to Bob, obviously, winning the Scottish Open. But I thought it was interesting talking about how a lot of the hard work he's done on the mental side of his game and how he approaches being a big spot solid, your point about this is a different guy this year. I thought that was great. And that really, hey, never really does anything for me, but you know,

results like this and interviews like that, I really appreciated his candidness and that that does a lot to engender like, Hey, it was great again, going back, wish we didn't have the kind of just the stink of that, that ruling and, and drop on 15. But, you know, I think in total, it was a great win for him and a great win winner for the event. I think all we're asking for from these events, whether

there's signature events or PGA Tour, just pro golf events in general outside of the majors, is to make me feel something, right? Or to know that it means something more than just taking home a big check to whomever is winning and it matters who wins and loses much more so than the points and the check and the status. It's like, no, I wanted this trophy. I wanted this title. And I think with Bob, it seems like there's because like, I'll be totally honest too, like, he's not the easiest guy to root for out there on the course, right? Sometimes he, you know, he wears like some of the worst shit I've ever seen. Like, truly. But he, you know, like he can get kind of pouty or

dour and I know he's been really difficult difficult to work with as far as caddies go and all that stuff. And TC the pace. We got it. It's not good. Yeah, the pace is not good either. So I think there's some red flags there. But at the end of the day, it's almost like he seems like one of those guys that's almost trying to roll this big boulder up a hill. that's not pleasant. Right? Like it's, you know, he's going up against guys that should be beating him 10 times out

of 10 and he's, he's holding his own and he's won twice now this season, big spots. And I just, the ickiness of the finish, I don't mean to downplay like at minimum he was one of the two best players in the tournament, regardless of that situation. Right? I don't mean to downplay it. Just like he played incredible golf. It just, again, it was like, we seemed like we were destined for a playoff there. Like, and we kind of got cheated out of that one a little bit with that break. But a couple more things before we move off the Genesis, but want to, of course, mention knowing I was sponsored by Fandl, whether you're playing

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lot of you I think you're gonna get put on the stand a little bit here tonight. I know where we're going here. I'm just gonna give a sample of some questions that were sent in. I put out a call for questions. I did not pull everyone here. Okay. Drew D Brown 34 is Ludwig just Fleetwood.

Uh, Brian Kirschner is loving just a guy. Tyler Munson seven Ludwig got the Sunday scaries. There was a lot more. I could have been more. I can't even believe you read Brian Kirschner's tweet. Cause that guy, some of the worst takes on the internet. Listen, that's besides the point. One of the foremost Ludwig haters. You're already dodging. You're already dodging here.

T.C. Like what do we have to say for our guy Ludwig? He's our guy. We've shared him, you know, for many years now. But incredible floor. Is it perhaps Randy should be putting both of us on the stand? Yeah, I'll answer for it. Sure. That's fine. I'll take I'll take your side. When are we when do we get concerned about the Sunday stuff? I mean, it was it. Sure. That's fine. I'll take your side. When do we get concerned about the Sunday stuff?

I mean, it was Saturday stuff last year. Now it's Sunday stuff. He was a little like he shot what? What did he shoot yesterday? 60 on Saturday, 65. And that was probably like the worst he could have shot. I was a little bit disappointed with how he played on Saturday and then, yeah, looks just a few, I don't know, the three putt here or there, a loose swing, like what was the one, the par three down the stretch today, what was that? 14, that was a, or no, 13, sorry, it was par four, 13. It was a two shot swing with him and Adam Scott. They were tied and then Scott goes to 17,

hits it close on, like he was a hole ahead and Ludwig just, you know, misses a comebacker and yeah, you know, yeah, I mean, some of it does feel a little bit Tommy ish, right? They're both exceptional ball strikers and drive it on a string and you know, the putter, I think there were a few putts today that he left short, like noticeably short that that you know, it was pretty tentative on some of that is, you know could just be hey, you know The greens are greens are slow. They're not gonna be lightning this week at true and either they'll probably roll What a 10-5 11. So yeah, I don't know I don't know what to chalk it up to but I do think if we've seen anything with Ludwig, it's it's that

Like a he missed the cut at this event last year. And he was in the hunt. You know, he shot what 6464 6573. You know, you wonder if there's anything going on with like, obviously, there's stuff going on with the knee, he's going to get it cleaned out. But hey, like, is that you know, on the fourth day of a tournament, is that factoring in at all? I know he did a lot of work the last week and a half in Sweden up at Barzabek with Peter Hansen, his coach there. So I don't know, I think there's, yeah, there's

legitimate concerns. But I think if he showed us anything, it's that he's pretty good at turning weakness into a strength. I guess chipping has gotten a lot better over the last nine, 12 months. And I have no doubt that, I don't think this is gonna be scar tissue building up for him. Like he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that's gonna, like he's always been kind of a killer. Like, you know, in college, he loved the big spot.

He made a crucial mistake at Augusta on 11, but like I think he acquitted big spot. He made a crucial mistake at Augusta on 11, but I think he acquitted himself well. Pinehurst, he was probably a little bit out of his depth just as far as experience and course management there. It's such a young part of his pro career. Certainly, the haters and losers out there can say what they want to say, but I would bet on Ludwig 10 times out of 10 to, I think he's going to win like a lot of majors. And I think this is a blip in the radar. And this is something that he'll use to get better in the long run.

So he's going to have so many freaking chances. Like he's just going to be in the top 15 going into the final round, like over half the time, at least. I mean, he's just so freaking good. The floor is so high. Like in the top 15 going into the final round, like over half the time at least. I mean, he's just so freaking good. The floor is so high. It is a standard though that we have to hold him to that we've held everyone to.

Fee now had the trial by fire from you guys on being really good and not winning it. Not winning the world's Sunday. Yeah, but Ludwig, the way that Ludwig won at in Switzerland last year, and then the way that he won at the end of the year last year at Sea Island, that should engender more latitude for him.

He's got time. You know, especially doing it. And yeah, like he's just, yeah, I mean, like he's not a perfect player. He's got a lot of stuff to work on, but I think his floor is so high, right? Yeah, it's just, it does take another gear to like go out and win a lot. I think he's gonna win a ton. It's gonna well,

this will be a forgotten part of the conversation. But we haven't seen it yet. Right? It's it's it's we we all have crowned him in that way in terms of he does have this kind of bigger test. He's won the RSM, which is a fine fall series event, but you know, has not gotten out and won on BG. Now granted, like, he just got on the PGA tour like a year ago. It's very, very much for fine player in the world. Fine. We're fine. But it hasn't happened yet. It's just worth

pointing out and noting and having totally he's got it. Alright, so he's played what 14 events this year. He's got two runner up six top 10s 10 top 25s 13 cuts made one missed cut. You look at this event and you're right. That's a T that's top 10s, 10 top 25s, 13 cuts made, one missed cut. You look at this event and you're, all right, that's a T, that's another one. Like that's not even in those stats. That's a T4, right? So his floor is high and he's gonna learn how to convert

more of those opportunities into wins, no doubt. Any input here, Randy? Rand, yeah, Randy, anything to, any qualms there? No, I think that's exceedingly fair. I think it's exceedingly level headed. Which is not what we're going to do here. Go dive in. I know.

Which feels a little dirty and like not what we're about. So I'm struggling a little bit. I don't know. The player he most reminds me of is, I was just thinking, I know we're going to go to the LPGA after the Genesis, but it's a little bit like Rose Zeng, right? Where they get the win and they're in contention and everybody has these high expectations, but it's just not that easy to stack wins, right? They've both stacked like really good finishes and pretty consistent play, but it's difficult to win. So I think Ludwig's maybe guilty of not just coming on the scene and

being a total revelation, like a, like, like a Tiger Woods, but nobody is like, that's the thing. It's like, it's just an impossible standard to judge him against right now. And so it took Scotty a little while. Scott, Scott, Scott, he's a great freaking comp here. I mean, I don't think he's gonna turn to Scotty, but Scotty was this guy before he won four times in 2022. Like he was very much like, when's he going to win one of these things? And then I think also, you know, if you like your hot, if you like your takes hot, like yes,

you know, Hey, scar tissue can Ludwig win the big one, which I do like, you know, I like dabbling in that from time to time. It's entertaining, But I think my actual true beliefs here are like, yeah, it's just a lot of experience for him to be gaining. And he just is a very, very, very proper golfer. And I agree with everything you guys are saying. Like it's he's gonna start picking off converting these two wins at a higher clip as he gets more experience. I think also like some of its recency bias too, because I think like if you go back to, you know, the pebble like pebble, right? I think he was primed to like go out and win that tournament and the final round gets canceled. Or, I mean, everybody was super cold going into that final round. He was coming off that 60 in round three.

Yeah, but like, I think the Masters, everybody's like, oh, like he was right in the hunt and like didn't play well on Sunday. Like he shot 69. Yeah, he played well. Pretty tough fucking setup. And then Heritage, he shot 72 on like he started out 66, 66 on the first two days and then shot 72 on Sunday or at Jack's place Memorial, he shoots 74 on Sunday. Like there's there's some recency stuff. But but also, like, like, I wouldn't I wouldn't have heritage and Memorial pegged is like the two best course fits on tour for for someone like him either. Right?

It'll be fun. A couple Joe Corsini asked his sawhead to spieth in a hoodie. I don't have anything to add on that. And that's just funny. I just made me laugh. Like, yeah, that's what we like. He's fun. And Jeff, he was talking about with, uh, it was, I was caddy just, they were, they were, they were talking through a shot yesterday and he was like, Oh, you want like the super flop, right? You want the, it was sounded like us to the mega flop. Oh, I'm going to hit the mega flop. Just refreshing. Jeff Bruder, many people threw this one in,

but does the sprinkler head get replaced with a plaque? I think it most certainly has to be a plaque-worthy right of 16. They spell it right. Rory got a plaque from where he hit the shot into 18 last year. They spelled his name wrong. They spelled his fucking name wrong. That's unlucky. Speaking of Rory, this was the first we'd heard from him

since Pinehurst. Didn't really express much regret for anything that went down in terms of storming out of the parking lot and not giving quotes and all that, which I was, I guess, not surprised with, but a little continuing the same thoughts in terms of like, I still feel the same way, man. Like everyone else kind of faced the music on this one. Like that was kind of the moment that you needed to answer things. And he

was asked about the biggest headlines have been this week were asked about some of the criticisms that have been a lob towards Harry Diamond. And he replied saying, you know, it's certainly unfair. Hank talking specifically about Hank Haney and Smiley Kaufman's comments. He said Hank Haney has never been in that position. Smiley has been in that position once I love love Smiley and he was out there with us on 18. But just because Harry is not as vocal or loud with his words as other caddies, it doesn't mean that he doesn't say anything.

And that he doesn't do anything. I just wish that you know, these guys that criticize when things don't go my way, they never say anything good when things do go my way. Where were they when I wanted to buy earlier this year or Quail Hollow or the two FedEx cups I've won with Harry or the two Ryder cups or whatever. They are never there to say Harry did such a great job when I win, but they're there to criticize when we don't win. At the end of the day, they are not there. They're not in the arena. They're not the ones hitting the shots and making the decisions. Someone said to me once, if

you'd never take advice from these people, you would never take their criticisms either. Certainly wouldn't go to Hank Haney for advice. I love Smiley, but I think I know what I'm doing and so does Harry. It's like Roy needs some food cream. Any reaction to these comments? I don't think they're out of bounds. But I also think like, yeah, like the reason that nobody says anything about those events is because sometimes like those setups aren't the events that you need someone to lean on.

They're pretty straightforward setups and course conditions and they're just, they're PGA Tour events, right? And I think I'll say the same thing I've said on this for like years whenever the Harry Diamond conversation has come up in this regard is like, it is not at all like never the question about Harry's caddying ability. He's a fantastic player. He's been a worries back for seven years now like you you are a professional caddy very quickly like you can't in a few tournaments, you're a professional caddy and it's it's not about his ability. It is

about Rory like Rory's entire process, right and like the whole system that he sets up that ultimately leads to him making the best decision, right? Harry does not make the decisions. Harry can say whatever he wants. Like that was not Harry's fault what happened on the back nine at Pinehurst at all. Like some people have lobbed that criticism

or like put the wrong club in his hand. It's like, no, like Rory's in charge of putting Harry in that spot one and like reaching the proper conclusion. Right? So it's Harry, it's Rory's decision to have Harry on the bag and if Harry doesn't spot one and like reaching the proper conclusion, right? So it's Harry, it's Roy's decision to have Harry on the bag. And if Harry doesn't step up and say, No, this is eight iron on 15. Like that makes it Rory's call, right? Like, the other option is having a more established or in somebody that's not your best friend as the caddy there that

is there to be your auditor be your checkpoint of like, hey, let's think about this. Let's go through this. Let's go this this way like we're gonna go through a different process than you go through with this guy That's ultimately gonna lead us to the right conclusion and Rory has decided to go a different direction with that Which I think points this criticism like he's reading these as criticisms towards Harry and I think they're more accurately criticisms towards Rory like critiques not even necessarily criticisms like Fair questions to ask in this scenario, right? Where how you ended up going long of 15 is a decision you ultimately landed on.

But part of the process here was maybe if Bones is on the bag, you end up with eight iron in the bag. Maybe you don't get there if Bones is on the bag. Maybe you're not leaving when you get to 15. But again, the question is always towards Rory and not pointed at Harry. I think Harry gets unfairly maligned in this scenario. And I think Roy's misinterpreting that or deflecting that a little bit.

I tend to agree with that, Solly. I let me preface all this by saying I have no idea Harry's impact on his performance. I'm not, I simply can't judge that because we don't know, you know, maybe Harry puts Rory at ease and helps him play. I think he's a lot more than a caddy. More often than not, right. But I do think it's fair, a guy like Rory who burst onto the scene and now is 10 years without winning a major and has been with Harry

for seven years, it is fair for people to start to wonder, like, hey, it's gotta be something. And if, if making an Academy switch, you know, if, if that's a tiny incremental improvement in the heat of a moment in a major championship, it still could be fair criticism or fair to wonder and ask the question. And I give Roy credit, like he's probably thought about all this stuff too. And on balance, he's chosen to stay with Harry. So I tend to lean where you are, Solly, where like he's made his decision.

This is on Rory. This is the way it's going to be. And I feel like we should go forward with that. But I do think it's not like unfair to just wonder like, hey, with a different caddy, is that something that could have changed a decision here or there that ultimately could have resulted in a major? It's a great unknown. I that's kind of the beauty of it. Nobody will ever know.

It feels kind of macro micro, right? Like the totality of Harry's involvement could be, you know, extremely positive. But it's hard to say it's not. I mean, all the good golf they've played out both in majors, not won them, but played good golf and majors and won a shitload and done extremely well in seven years on regular tour events. Like, it's hard to say that he's not contributed to that. I mean, it's the same thing as like saying, you know, I mean, it's like a it's like Kyle Shannon, like, hey, like they're winning a shitload of games and getting to the big game and they can't close. But hey, is there something there in your coaching philosophy?

Or it's like a similar conversation there. I think I was more just optimistic with like, I was glad Roy took the same kind of tact and reflected on the way that everything went down because I think, yes, it's a devastating loss, but also there's so much good to pull from it. He played, that's the best golf I've ever seen him play. Because I feel like he had to play great golf. He had to play perfect golf with Bryson and with those course conditions and everything, whereas like,

some of the other majors that he's won, like, I don't think he played even close to as good a golf from that. I just don't think the field was as good. And I don't think that the conditions were as exacting and the the line was as fine. And so, you know, that was a tough putt on 18. I like it. But I think it's fair to wonder, all right, yeah, like the putt on, was that 15? 16.

Like, or on 16. The short one was 16, yeah. Yeah. And it's like, yeah, there's, you know, that's just scar tissue buildup or tension buildup from the previous, you know, preceding three and a half days. You know, so I think it's good that like the thought of him walking around New York Baseball had on the line. It was so Kendall Roy, I mean it was I Read that and I just started cracking up because like no he's a big succession guy And he's just him just brooding around New York in a in a hat

Just just walking probably with some headphones in, on the phone, taking calls, probably listening to music or podcasts or whatever. It's just such an interesting thought exercise. And to close the book on it too is like, you can't, to Rory's point on this, is like the whole tournament week is a series of decisions that you're making that like it's not just like all of a sudden you get to 15 and you're like up time to make a

decision here and right or wrong. It like you could make the right call 35 times throughout it and you make the wrong call. It you know in that spot it's going to get scrutinized right and again I still go back to like Rory McIlroy knew not to hit it over the 15th green like that. There's nothing. There's no part of like any of that that I would want to blame Harry for in any way. So sometimes it's also just like, you know, sometimes you just

have a bad number. Totally. And maybe didn't think like the way they set the course up today and that pin and that T like, man, that's right in between clubs for me. And I'm just, you know, I gotta make the best of a bad situation. That's just not a great number for me. Very well. So before we get to Evian for 125 years,

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I am concerned about that Ludwig plays so fast. It's good point that it like that's something like it and that's the sad thing with pro golf is like something that we laud the guy on is actually maybe a weakness. They play so fast. You're coming around on this take of mine. Do you see? And it's you know, and it's I've seen it a couple of times now where he, you know, he's paired up with somebody that's really deliberate and doesn't handle it great. And, um,

I know you didn't see it on 16. He was visibly frustrated. They, they mentioned he was actually frustrated with the pace of play of everything that we've got Tom, the nature. Yeah. You almost made it through the whole, whole section without a Tom Kim unnecessary Tom Kim dig. Onto the emmune. Anybody else they want to shout out? Like I think Aaron Rye, he's having a like T4 unbelievable season.

Great run. Rory had a T4 as well. This guy Romain Langask on Bastille day. What a remarkable situation there. Morikawa is playing really good golf right now. That's where I thought you were going with Randy's guy. And Adam Scott, we barely talked about him that hit me how he played 67, 65, 64, 67 to miss the playoff by one as a result.

True should set up quite well for Adam Scott's game. And then I don't know, I got a shout out to Noren too. And I've been in Sweden the last few weeks and you know, Norin, Norin's bucking his head a little bit, Sali. Doing some stuff. Speed, miss cut. JT had a great opening round and did not keep it going after that. Unfortunately, the pro did not have a great weekend 73, 16. What's going on with the pro? Is it getting off the tee? It seems like his driver stats are struggling.

He struggled off the tee this week as his approach player was not very good either. Yeah, he lost strokes with iron. He might be fighting the swing a little bit right now. But you never know, you get to the open championship and you get a little wind out there. Like you might, you know, all of a sudden stop thinking about your golf swing

and just start thinking golf shots and it can turn around really quickly. The night is always darkest before the dawn. I'd also like to shout out Tommy. I thought he was going to shoot like 57 on Saturday. You did? He birdied five out of the first six and then kind of cooled off. Doubled 18 to shoot 66. So I think Tommy said, quote, like he's in his post-run interview, he said, I'm playing like really, really, really good golf right now and I'm not getting much out of it. So I feel like that should portend well for Trune. And also, guys, I just like to say, I feel more positive about pro golf right now than

I ever have because I spent the last couple of weeks watching on commercial free Swedish TV. I cannot emphasize enough how good Via Play was. I mean, it was like the commentary, you can choose English or Swedish. They had featured group stuff. There's not a single commercial. It was insane. And like I learned so much.

I saw more of Renaissance this week than I've seen in the last three or four years combined. Cause I saw every whole different camera angles, all of it. They'd walk and talks. It was delightful. This is why, like when I came back to the US after living at like the whole, like the start of no laying up was like three years in, I just watched everything abroad with no commercials.

Came back and was like, whoa, guys, this sucks. Like how did I manage to do this for three years? Because I didn't watch any fucking commercials. But Hey, one, one other name, sorry, what Justin Thomas went out Thursday shot 62 mentioned that didn't break 70 the rest of the the week. Just said like, is the 62 just total freak? I thought maybe put his ass off. Yeah, JT on a Lynx Corso, maybe that triggers something in the imagination and shot creation,

but I'm not sure now. I've been, JT has been better than Spieth, but I've been warning you guys on both of these fronts, that like they do those little runs, they just, neither of them can make it last 72 holes right now, like they just refute, they just cannot make it last 72 holes. They'll have nice rounds. They'll have nice six hole

stretches to have nice 12 all stretches, maybe even 18 holes, but it just does not last 72 holes right now. So I mean, just very, very clearly at least a rung below the the elite players in the game right now, which is sorry, I'll just say that with JT, like I thought when JT getting back to the Rory Harry thing real quick was like when when JT linked up with bones, I think everybody was like, Holy shit, like, what a decision this is gonna unleash

JT and he did win a PGA. So I don't want to like diminish it. But sometimes like, hey, it's not like the magic bullet, right? So I don't think there's any guarantee that if Rory did make a caddy switch, like he would play any different golf. Right. I think that's also a figure JTL. Like he's never just looking at Randy to your point about the open championship and him. Yeah, like it should suit him with creativity and shop making. And you know, like, because I do worry about like his swing,

like, is it that repeatable, right? Just like he's, his highs are high, his lows aren't great. And then, and then you had the putting in there, but like the open championship, like you would think, all right, like he likes coming over here. He likes playing links golf and he's played seven times and he's got three missed cuts, four cuts made, one top 25. Bad sides of the draw though. Every time, right? Every time.

It's just bad luck, man. Damn. It was cool to see videos of him and Jordan and Ricky out there playing North Baric and like putting around the pit hole. Like they do seem to have a bit of appreciation for it. So that part's cool. The play not as much so, but I would like to see them go like go play kill Spindy, go play the Glen, go play Dunbar. I don't know if he I was talking to him this week. I don't know if he made it out to kill Spindy.

I told him to go check it out. I don't know. He may try to play a prospect this week as well, I think. So you may see him out there. Yeah, I think Adam Scott is slated. Like he was, I think he's staying on press. Like he's going to play out there a lot. Like, you know, like what a cool thing of like, yeah.

Like you come over here and I think you would play better golf, right? If you're like, I don't know. It just makes it feel more cohesive. Moving on to the Avion guys, we had a close sweat today. We were going to, I was already thinking about how we were, how we were going to reverse all of our Evian takes about it being a major. If our young hitter, Lauren Coughlin would have won, she did not end up winning.

Unfortunately, which did save us from having to acknowledge the F1 as a major. If you did miss the action this morning, Lauren did shoot in the final group with Steph Kiriakou and Ayaka Fudo-Wei. She shot a 4 under par, 32 on the front, took the lead into the back 9 by 1 over Steph and by 2 over Fudo-Wei. They stayed that way into the 12th until Fudeway made Bogie to fall three behind, but she would go on to make a bomb birdie at the par three 14th. I was not still not worried about her. Another bomb on the 15th,

Kiriakou birdied 15th as well to tie Lauren and Fudeway was one behind. So coming off the birdies, Fudeway and Kiriakou both stuffed it on 16. And if you, if you don't know the 16 at Evian, the pins like in this bottom bowl, I forget who it was really, Randy, you may remember like, someone hit a shot earlier in the day that like, it took like almost a minute for it to get down to the bottom and it went in the

hole. Like it is on this. It is a little funnel pin. If you funnel it's a funnel to the middle of the green, it will just go and go and go and it literally took like the the clip I saw online was over a minute long. Lauren hits her shot towards that and misses the spot by three feet maybe and left herself in the worst possible spot to hit a putt from hits the putt right by three putts it in both foot away and Kyriaku made birdie. So Steph's at 18 under Ayaka's at 17 and Lauren at 16.

Kiriaku made a mess of 17 and hit a chunk to chip, made bogey, Lauren short side herself and also made bogey and food away, lipped out another bomb. She almost birdied 17 as well in this crazy finishing stretch that she has. So food away and Kiriaku are tied playing the par five 18th. Lauren is two back. Food away allegedly hit a good t ball down the right side.

Golf channel didn't show it on the 76 second hole of allegedly a major but they'll probably blame it on an international feed or not having cameras that right sky showed us. Sophie Walker confirmed to us that sky showed all three of her shots that she hit. What he did. Okay. You had to punch out of the left rough. Fudewei went for it on 18, man, and barely cleared the water.

Like, it was a hero shot over the water, hits the front of the green, runs up, takes the backslope to about maybe 18 feet right of the pin. Kiyoki stepped up, hit it to about 8 feet for Birdie. So Fudewei's got to putt maybe 18 footer for Eagle on the last to guarantee the win. Otherwise, she's got to rely on Kiyoki to miss a got a putt, maybe 18 footer for Eagle on the last to guarantee the win. Otherwise she's got to rely on Kiriaku to miss a pretty easy putt. And she has a double breaking putt and she poured it in the center to finish.

Birdie, birdie, birdie, lipped birdie Eagle to win by one over Steph Kiriaku. First major championship for Ayaka Fudeway. It was an intense watching this morning. It was a good watch. Definitely. I mean, with Lauren being in the mix, obviously some, some personal rooting interest, a great, where do you want to start food away? Coughlin somewhere else? I let's start with for away. I think, you know, I think, um, my thoughts on, uh, on I think my thoughts on food away winning is this has felt like she has felt like a she was going to win a major sooner or later. I mean, this is her what is it her fourth top 10 in the last two years worth of majors.

So in the last eight majors, including today, it's her fourth top 10. She's just a super, super solid golfer. She's 24. This is only the second time she's won on the LPGA, but she had won eight times in Japan before coming over here. And putting solid, you mentioned like those long, 30 putts. The whole thing with Evian is like, it's a slopey course, right? Like these were bombs over like it's a slopey course, right? Like these were bombs over multiple, you know, ridges and big slopes, like tip of the cap. That is always the strength of her game.

Like she is always one of the best putters on the LPGA tour. And that carried her to victory. I thought her play in the 18 was, I was proud. She went for it, ended up being what won her the tournament. Yeah, I guess I don't have a ton else to say except, you know, another wild dresser. I'm not sure if it's good or bad, but her fashion sense, you know, we talked about Big Shot Bob on the men's side. Ayaka has some provocative outfits she wears. Don't put those two in the same conversation. She wears stuff that...

I think Ayaka is a little more fashion forward probably than Bob is. It felt like a result that was going to come at some point with her winning a major and it came this week. So kudos to her. Yeah, I was honestly kind of surprised that she hadn't won a major. I feel like she's been in the mix for a lot of these things and she went out and got it, man. I mean, you know, I was gutted for Lauren, but even even then she needed to shoot, she would have had a shot three under which would have given her 65 for the final round to have beaten fruit away by one other way, you know, even, you know, even two under on the back would have only put her in a playoff. So she did go out and get it. And it was stressful watching for Lauren and trying so hard not to tweet about it. I did my absolute best guys, I fell in the sword and just, I wanted to like promote to people to get to watch this in case she was gonna win, but didn't want to be the cooler. Of course, I threw a vague tweet out and she made a bogey mealy after it

anyways. So I got her. I apologize for that. But it was great. I mean, second run in a major championship, her second top five in a major this year. Again, it's a major only because Lauren finished in the top five to us here, but it's awesome to watch her play. I mean, for those that have followed her career from the early parts of when we first started

our relationship with her to now, it just, she keeps getting better every single year. She's got her husband, John, on the bag. Just two of the best people we've come in contact with since we've gotten involved in golf and watch them, you know, consistently being in contention now major championships is a wild, wild path. And it's just awesome to see. And we're really extremely

happy for them. Totally agree. I think she's she's got all the shots. She's truly one of the like the most talented kind of high upside players in the world. I think it's just been a matter of like believing in herself and believing that she like just just believing that deep down and I feel like she she does now and we're seeing the results of that and so to her, you know, see her potentially making the Solheim Cup team this year. I mean if you know if she keeps playing like this it's it's it's no doubt and even if she keeps playing like this, it's no doubt. And even if she's in

need of a captain's pick, I can't imagine it's like a better player to have on the team just from a team component can pair up with literally anybody out there, drives the shit out of it. Her putting has improved drastically over the last year and a half. Immensely proud of Lauren, happy for John with him being out there. And yeah, I mean, like, I think it's something too on the LPGA Tour. Like they made, like Lauren made $400,000 plus this week. That's still like, that's a really big deal

for her career and for her just travel and, you know, lifestyle and kind of how she can, you know, solidify herself as one of the best players in the world moving forward. She was on the Epson tour when we met her and they were, it was kind of like, you know, unsure what the rest of her career was going to look like. And you know, it's been, it's been awesome. Yeah. Even, even moving into like, you know, the beginning of last year, she's like, that

was kind of the first time that she'd ever had status on the LPGA Tour moving from one season to the next or full status and some security. And so you're seeing the dividends of that kind of pay off. So I think, yeah, like, and then going back, like, I remember watching Furuye at Pebble last year and thinking, oh my God, like she's just never misses off the tee. It's unbelievable. And then Steph Kiriakou, like shout out to her, like great finish today. I mean, had the bogey on 17, but birdied 15, 16, and 18. And she's starting to stack up some really, really good finishes. And you talk to anybody out there, she's like a really promising, and just like a good player, like proper player.

So, yeah, like I will say the LPGA, like, all right, if you want me to treat this like a major, then like you can't go off and fucking threesomes off split teas on Sunday when there's no weather in the forecast, between 8.30 and 1030 local time and then tell us that it's for travel purposes. If it's a major, then that should be the center of gravity. And who's flying out of Geneva at 7 PM only, all right, then

they're flying to London Heathrow or somewhere to hop on a flight the next morning anyway, they're going to be in a hotel that night. Like that doesn't make any sense. It's just way simpler if it's just not a major man. Again, I don't know if we need to relitigate all this, but it's a major, it's a mino. It's a major in name only, right? It's big purse, big money, but it just like, it doesn't hold up, man. And the- It's embarrassing. The coverage was predictably disgraceful, but like, I can't stress this enough.

Their broadcast partner, their broadcast partner was touting their presence at a charity golf event this week. Like their broadcast partner was doing wall-to-wall coverage in Lake Tahoe. And not at a- like, yeah, Tron, you're exactly right. Like it's you can tell us it's a major, but the way I see a lot of the parties around the LPGA, like acting toward this tournament, like it's just it's not, even though it produces great winners. Like the Evian's probably produced the best run of winners over the last decade of any quote unquote major.

Yeah, it's also like it's kind of a stray spot on the schedule. Like they play the Dow. And you know, there's the run of majors in the US with, you know, US women's open and KPMG and all that. And then they play the Dow and then they go over here for a week and then they go back and going back to the have. Yeah. And then, yeah, so they go back and they play in Toledo. Then they go to Canada, and then they go to Portland, and then, and then they go back to Scotland from the west coast. It's just like, I know they've made strides with the women's schedule, but all right, maybe start with like your quote unquote, major getting that in the right spot on the schedule leading into or coming out of the links, you know, because there's the there's the Irish one, there's the there's the Scottish open.

And they're in defense. It usually does. But the Olympic year has thrown things for a little bit of a wrinkle here with with having to move it up for the Olympics. But I honestly like, I can't like come up with a lower bar for golf coverage to clear than like the winner of the tournament tied, eventual winner of the tournament tied for the lead playing the final hole of the tournament. The tee shot needing to be shown or acknowledged. Like that, that I keep, that's not, there's not a lower bar you can cover. And maybe the, all right, the final putt

would be the lowest bar possible. But other than that, like any other shot on the final hole is the lowest bar you have to clear to cover to cover professional golf and they didn't show it like it's what how about this? How about like, how about like, sky and golf channel are owned by the same company? Right? Like jammed in so you guys are uninterested. Just give us, just give us Sky, save the money. Don't send anybody over and just give us better coverage on Sky and everybody would

be happy. You know, so two other shout outs, Patty T finally on 63 finishes two shots back. I thought, you know, good to see her continue in a pretty strong year. And then Esther Henselot continues to play awesome golf and she'll be a Solheim Cup, you know, probably shoe in on the European side. She finished T7 and is putting together, you know, a big year. Madeline T12 as well. So just on Solheim real quick, the qualifying period, we were talking about Lauren, she's currently sitting sixth on the US points list.

Top seven automatically earn a spot. So she would, if it ended today, she would have a spot. The qualifying period for the women goes through the British Open. So that takes place the third week of August. So they have a few more events, but TC, you're right. Like I think Lauren, it would be a disgrace if she weren't on the team in some form or fashion, even if she's not in that top seven come British Open time.

So the other weird thing, you know, we've talked about a women's major and we haven't said the word Nellie Court yet. Just kind of meh week from her. Her unbelievable historic season is kind of petering out a little bit, which like, listen, I'm not gonna like kill her for that. It's understandable. What was the deal with the dog bite? She got bit by a dog? Yeah, that's kind of, I mean, she made a social media post. Yeah, she had to withdraw. She was going to play in the Aramco series event in London last week prior to the Evian this week.

She had to withdraw from that. So she finished T26 as did Lily Avous. They were actually paired together, which, you know, had you told me at the beginning of the week, hey, Nellie and Lily are going to be paired together Sunday at the Evian, I'd be like, oh, hell yeah, let's go. but they were both kind of out of it, which was a shame. So, um, yeah, we'll, we'll see the last major, like I said, will be at St. Andrew's the old course. So fingers crossed that that should be a really fun event, proper test for the women.

Um, so we will, we will see that in about a month's time. On to, I would consider it to be the main event for this week. It seems like it happened a long time ago. I hate when news breaks on Monday, we do a Sunday night podcast, but are we talking to Uncle Yoast? Uncle Yoast? We'll get to Uncle Yoast. But Keegan Bradley was named the United States Rider Cup captain on Monday. What was your, uh, Randy, what was your reaction when you saw this announced? I mean, I was just pretty shocked.

Like I don't, and it was a shocked of just like, holy shit, that's out of the left field. I would have, you could have given me a couple thousand guesses and I'm not sure if I ever would have gotten to Keegan Bradley as a captain. A couple thousand? I think so. Honestly, I think so. I thought I've long been on record where I think the importance of the captain in a Ryder Cup has been a little bit overstated.

So like I have no problem getting weird. I actually am like, hey, we've tried like the traditional, you know, hey, these guys have all waited their turn. They all need to be captains at some point. So I am all for like going off the board and doing something like Keegan. I have no qualms with it. I just was totally shocked by it. TCO is your reaction. Someone along those same lines. Like I don't know if it's a, the bar is so low after Zach Johnson that, and I think it does like, I was thinking, Oh man, like maybe they've had this in the works for a long time. Like, no, they just called his ass up and said, Hey, do you, would you be interested in doing this?

I thought, you know, I thought for sure it was gonna be Stuart Sink or someone along those lines, but I dig it. I don't dig it for like, as far as like, I'm a European fan, so hey, I dig it. Just like try something new. And it seems I'm already tired of them talking about like the Bethpage angle and the St. John's angle and all that stuff. But I think just like the Ryder Cup is an entertainment product, right? And I think it's better to do this than to get some retread or somebody that doesn't know a lot of these players.

Now that said, like, does Keegan have great relationships with a lot of these guys? Maybe that'll make it easier for him. Right. But yeah, I got like Randy, like you said, like, like I'm on record as saying, like, there should be like, make make fucking Michael Jordan the captain. Right. Let's not let's not even one of the worst general managers ever. Look man's not doing anything. I don't care. Like Toto Wolf, you know? Yeah. So I, I, I don't even know what my initial reaction was. Because I think it was a state of shock. And I think I've

come I tried not to react to it on social media when it happened. Because it was like, let's just need to pull back a little bit need to hear from them. I need to understand a little bit more. I'm glad I've waited until now to talk about it. Because I don't know if I'm all the way there, but I think I can get there and I think I'm on my way getting there to this being a good idea. I'm definitely open to the idea of this, right? I don't... skipping kind of the end of this, I wish this went down with like, you know what? We floored this idea to Keegan and he came back to us with like, here's my proposal, here's what I want to do, here's what we need.

Like Hunter Mayhem. Exactly. Like, here's how we're going to change the culture. Here's how we're gonna do this. I know what these guys need. I think about blah, blah, blah. And if they were like, we heard that pitch, and we like, that's our guy right there. I think I'd be like, let's fucking go, I will, I will, you know, run through a wall to, you know, to be on board with this one. I think we can still end up there

despite their lack of good process in this. Keegan saying he literally had no conversations with anybody before they called to tell him he was the captain. But it might be task failed successfully here. It's a little whiffs of Ted Bishop just making the call with Tom Watson, but just on the opposite end of the spectrum

in terms of like, instead of the veteran, like hard ass, we're going like young and like enthusiastic and all of this. So I like going through the- Also like, could he be too emotional and too- Could, could, but so like going through like a checklist of what like Team USA needed to do was like, they needed to find someone to lead the team that can relate to the team that the players

respect, right. And those can check that both those boxes, I'm not positive, but I think he can relate to the team is a younger guy in the in the room. And like that's, I've talked to multiple players that were on that team that have all said, like, it's the complete lack of energy from like the captaincy and the inability to relate to the captains contributed to a lethargic team room and atmosphere within the team, right? So that's one thing they need of like, just a different energy with the group that can

be a positive here need to be somebody from their generation, I think was pretty important in terms of instead of Stu sink or Tiger Woods, which we can talk about, like, I wasn't loving the energy going down that path. Someone that understands like what this weird group of guys needs and wants some of its kind of ridiculous. Like if you look at Xander's comments this week of like, you know the dinners and all this stuff, but like hey, whatever it is like get these guys like stop coming up with excuses and whatever they need

to play their best golf like maybe Keegan's the guy that can that can do that. He's enough outside the box that can start like laying that out there and again the most important one is like somebody that can create a culture. And like, that's a complicated one. That's a really complicated one that they've failed at. And like, like a question I have is like, is he gonna be able to check his ego at the door?

Like from the press conference vibe I got, I would say yes. Like he was fantastic in that press conference. He was thoughtful, he was humble. It was not like a know it all vibe at all. He had very clear, concise answers to all the questions and it was not, you know, it just didn't seem like bullshit. He was very, very real and all that. Now granted, press, you know, Ryder Cups are not won and lost in the press conferences, but it is, it speaks to like your ability to, you know, put forth an image and a culture that I think the U.S. kind of needs a,

team needs a change in. You know, you hear a lot about this past week, like, a an image and a culture that I think the US kind of needs a team needs a change in the you know, you hear a lot about this past week, like I've read a lot of the discourse like this is the death to the boys club and like, it's all just like very, very silly. It's just very like, if you want to be mad about Sam Burns, like making the team over Keegan Bradley, as if that would have made a difference in Rome, then then sure, go right ahead. The problem is still not like the core of the golfers. Like it's getting the core of the golfers

to play better golf. It's managing them, their expectations, the plan, the pairings, like the group. Scotty Shepard and Brooks Koepke losing nine and seven in Rome is a bigger problem than like Sam Burns getting the last captain's pick. Like I really truly believe that. So Luke Donald like running total circles around ZJ in terms of planning, pairing,

pairing you guys together at DP World Tour events, getting them to buy into their roles, playing three whole matches and expressing the importance of them, winning the first hole, uh, you know, of the matches, like all the stuff that he did to create an actual culture in there and hold his team accountable. You got like dynamite performances out of like Nikolai Hoygard and Robert McIntyre who was not playing good golf at the time. Like neither of those guys would have been on like a USB team last year. So that goes to speak to like, it's not a talent issue. It's like a management of that talent. Like, like the fact that they were able to get such great contributions out of those guys isn't

and Scottie Scheffler is getting like wiped off the golf course, speaks to a lack of culture and like a lack of leadership and a lot of things. Like that's a core of the problem more than it is like these guys just picking each other and being buddy, buddy, which is I think an overstated part in a lot of the discourse in all of this. But I think also, I think the buddy, buddy thing then gets into like, you know, hey,

if you're not questioning the little things, then can you have the confidence on the big things? Right. And I think that's where, you know, like, that's where I liked the Keegan play because it's someone who's built a career for himself that was somewhat unlikely. Right. I think for the PGA of America, it seems like they're pretty amped about him being the son of a club, like of a PGA professional and someone who's won a PGA championship, like those seem like bigger,

you know, kind of bullets on the resume than they probably should be. But I think, you know, Keegan's also like, you know, his kind of late career renaissance, post broomstick, you know, post belly putter, being outlawed, like he's been pretty impressive as well, like him kind of like himself. His likeability. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but you know, I saw I think, but like, I think with Luke Donald, there's, it's like a two way, there's kind of two different paths, right? There's there's all the little decisions that that you make when,

whether it's empowering Dodo Molinari to, you know, like, hey, not only bring all these stats and analysis into the team room, but also like, hey, let's truly leverage them and trust them and use them to make decisions. And implement that months in advance. Like, this is what we're looking at. And then clearly communicate what those, you know, like what you are looking at. So it's objective to the guys because all these guys are like now at this point are pretty like they're extremely analytical, right? Like they want to know what the metrics and the, you know, what they're being judged on. Right. And how like, you know, all these guys want to know

the how and the why, not just the what. And so I think there, you know, all these guys want to know the how and the why, not just the what. And so I think there, you know, that was obviously a big a like, I don't think Zach was even getting to the what, but the I think the how and the why like didn't even exist either. He's just pulling shit out of a hat because he's a moron. But like, like, it truly, I mean, like, and like, zero, zero social skills whatsoever. Like just, just a corn cob. But like, but like, but then there's all that other. So like, a, you're, you're establishing all that, that confidence in the captain with that stuff and the assistant captains too, cause I think they're extremely important, right? Like, especially if you delegate properly

and do the pod system and all that stuff, hey, like you almost have four captains, like, you know, a captain of each little pod. And then beyond that, then you do all that, kind of that macro stuff that, you know, the team room stuff and getting the, you know, the right videos in there, getting all that stuff. And it's like, man, then it's like, you know, the team room stuff and getting the, you know, the right videos in there, getting all that stuff. And it's like, man, then it's like, you know, you got the objective

and you get the subjective and you're ready to run through a brick wall. And I feel like, you know, but it doesn't matter, like neither kind of matters unless you have both, right? Or at least that like subjective stuff doesn't really matter unless I think for these guys, unless they feel like they have someone that can translate the analytics and the objective stuff to them. And then it's like, all right, cool. We're bought in. We're ready to run through a brick wall for you. And then you pour gasoline on that.

Well, and I still think like the, like the U S team needs a player or a group of players to like be like the Rory and like buy into this shit and like be the leader by example, like culture wise and be like, yeah, I don't need to like reheat literally everything from, from the past go round of just like, how do you hold each other accountable? How do you set a team? Like if Rory is willing to check his ego at the door, then like Brian Harmon can check his just to pull, you know, pull an example out of there of like that. That's easy to fall in the European side. Like because like Rory does, I'll play with anybody. I'll do anything. I'll mentor anybody. I'll do all of this. I'll be a

leader, a captain out on the golf course. Like I, and I will check my ego at the door. And it just doesn't feel like the U S does that on that side. And I feel like I did not obviously buy into like Keegan loves his vent so much. He should be playing in, right? He needs to be on the team. Like that, that just didn't do anything for me in terms of like just the fact that he loves the event and has an unpacked the suitcase, doesn't do anything for me as a player. But like as a captain, I can get talked into that in terms of like somebody that is willing to like leave no stone unturned. Totally. And like obsess over it,

maybe obsess over it too much. I don't know. He says, he's laying awake at night, like thinking of all the things he wants to do and all that. But like, he might be the perfect man for the job in that regard of just like, yeah, we are going to do this. Yeah. ZJ went through the motions. Like ZJ was handed like such a great team from 2021 that set all these records. And like, he just did a bad impression of Steve Strecker leading it, like a really, really, really bad impression. I'm not positive Steve Stricker was an incredible captain, and that wasn't just like an unbelievable team on a great home course advantage. But what's interesting is the US gets stuck in these cycles, where they play these home ones, they whoop their ass, and they talk themselves into everything

being fixed. Whereas if you change your process now going into the home one, and I'm guessing that this is a two-go-around cycle for Keegan. Like I'm guessing he's also gonna be the captain for Ireland. I know Tiger- I would be shocked if Tiger wasn't the captain, but I also bet that Keith, so that's kind of the thing

that maybe should worry you a little bit is like, is Tiger just the shadow captain? And they're basically trying to create a four year cycle here. Because I think that's the other thing with the US, it just seems like every two years, it's like, all right, let's throw that playbook out and start starting. And they tried to do that with the ZJ stricker thing of like, hey, you know what, like, no, we got a good thing going here and we're just going to keep going. And it's like, like you said, no, like that was probably just a statistical like, Hey, that like, that was like an 85%

chance they were going to win with who they had on the team and everything. But I think whereas like you look at like Luke, Donald wasn't starting from scratch and granted like, you know, Padraig was probably an outlier for what he did, but, you know, going back to Bjorn and some of the other guys, like, you know, Luke Donald didn't reinvent the wheel either. Like they've had a really good system in place. So like the foundation is a lot stronger,

whereas like, is Keegan the guy to basically create a new foundation? I, you know, I don't know. Who is? I don't even know what that even means. Should they have hired JJ Reddick? Well, like honestly, John Wood, like being the team manager, the combo of Keegan and John Wood feels good to me.

It really does in terms of like kind of somebody to help handle the day to day tasks of all this. All right. So Kutcher is probably gonna be an assistant captain then. Cat's probably gonna be an assistant captain. I'm so good on the tiger part. I think Tiger is just a massive distraction to the whole thing. I think he's just like the wrong, the wrong energy for all of this. That's and that's that's like the but that's like the black hole,

like the vacuum sucking up all of the energy in the room, right? Of like you had no role in Rome. He's not going anywhere. And he wasn't in Rome like he was an assistant captain in Rome. Right. Like I think with I think he wants a thought with all of this, too, is like, I don't think he wants to deal with the live, the live bullshit in relation to this of like having to pick like Bryson

and like, you know, be in the same room as the live guys. Like he's taking this stuff a lot differently than a lot of the other ones guys have, I think. I bet Tiger also like doesn't want to do New York either. Probably not. Like that's a, it's going to be a zoo. Yeah. Like I think Tiger wants like,

hey, send me to a dare manner. It's a very, you know, kind of controllable environment. It like, you know, massive crowds, but hey, we're staying there at like the poshest resort of the planet. Like, you know, we'll hang out in the, in the, in the whiskey library every night and have our team bunker there. And you know, tell the logos on my goodness for me. Yeah.

I don't know. That's that's getting ahead, you know, for for Ireland, but I, I think this is interesting. I think it represent at least represents some kind of changing of the guard. And I'm definitely coming into this with an open mind. The devil is gonna be the details of all this. It's like, him loving the Ryder Cup is not enough like for him to like to justify being the captain. But I actually do have some, I'm leaning towards this. If I was had to choose between, do I have faith in Keegan?

Do I get this process right or do I not? I lean on the side of I do, right? And an interesting comment he made in the press conference as well. Listen, we've not been most so the most pro Keegan and that's confused a lot of people to listen to the show because it's like, blah, blah, blah, you hear all the stories, all these stories, you can't tell and all this but like

he made a point to say in the press or like, when I came out on tour, I treated everybody like they were the enemy, like and he regretted that like, again, dozen years, like a 10 years of stories of like Keegan being an asshole is going to lead to us to shaping our opinions and what we think of the guy. Does he seem different now? He's saying this openly of like, yes, I look at how these guys have great relationships out there and I wish I would have acted differently when I got out on tour. Like if he's willing to stand up and admit

that then I'm willing to come in with a much more open mind in terms of, you know, his open mindedness to the process and being willing to be a leader of a group of guys that are not necessarily the easiest guys to lead. So the more I'm talking, the more I feel all in, honestly. Like I'm like, this is way better. It's way better than Stuart's sink. Like it is going to be the same exact problems. Like this is a change in the culture. Do they get it right? I don't know, but it needed to change. Yeah. Like I like that it signals open-mindedness, right? And just, Hey, like, yes, we're acknowledging that something has to change and it can't just be the same, you know, mid 50s. Right? You know, even though like, hey, like, I

think Stuart Sink would would probably like he will be a good captain at some point in whether it's President's Cup or Ryder Cup. Like, I think Stuart Sinks, a pretty, pretty smart guy. What do you think about his comments on captain's picks? What did he say exactly? I was doing a couple things. I think he just said like, hey, they're making kind of signal Hey, we yeah, more automatic, which I don't know, that feels like maybe kind of a cop out or like, hey, like you could treat you can almost treat them as more like automatic, you know,

and say, hey, like, it's gonna take a lot to unseat these guys. But, you know, you'd almost want to have that in your back pocket. Because I think if you were, if it's going to take a lot to unseat these guys, but you'd almost want to have that in your back pocket. Because I think if you were going to say anything about the US team selections over the last decade plus, it's just that they're really stock. They never go off the board. They never really do anything interesting, which signals like, hey, there's not really a greater system or philosophy and play here. It's just like, Hey, let's,

you know, so what whether you wanted to go with team room stuff, or if you wanted to go with, Hey, let's get somebody that we think is gonna be really dynamic and match play. Like, I don't know, I think Sahith would be like a really good play. I'm not sure if he's great for Bethpage, but like at some point, like Saheb feels like someone who, man, he's putts lights out, he's streaky with the driver and you pair him with someone like he's a great iron player. You pair him with someone who's, you know, maybe a straighter driver. It's like, man, that seems like a pretty good combo there. Yeah, I'd like to see them revisit the whole point system in general.

It's just not good. Like it's, you're giving away major, you know, points to major events that happened in 2024 when the event's gonna be in 2025. And that's no, no telling of what kind of form a guy is going to be in. Like it's just the whole thing is that part's all broken out with six automatic spots, six captains picks, like, it's pretty like, you just want to avoid the scenario where if you have nine automatic qualifiers, eight or ninth guy might have started the

year great, be playing terrible golf and you don't want to bring him but you're forced to because he qualified on points. Is that good for team culture? No. Like I think six and six is a fair balance. Like, I do think that would be punting a little bit. But also like I would totally want to revisit the point system to begin with like use more of a strokes game scenario or just it's a it's a it can be way outweighed by like Brian Harmon winning the open last year. It's

double points and it's also like triple the money in those events also so you end up with these big outliers of these big weeks that like, I don't know if it necessarily signifies that you're going to be great in in team play and match play like, it's a ton of variables. But that's I guess the one concern would be like this does Keegan look at his personal experience as, hey, I don't want this to happen to someone else, and we're going to have 10 automatic picks,

and guys are going to earn these. And it's super objective. Potentially. That's maybe a future problem. I'm willing to, again, I'm coming to this with an open mind and benefit of the doubt here, honestly, because again, after you're sick, like it's sick, like as a fan, it makes me happy. Right. Yeah. It's interesting. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I think it, it may not be the right answer, but it's in the right spirit about that. Yes. I think that's good. I like that. Yeah. And I but it's in the right spirit. How about that? Yes.

I think that's good. I like that. And I think it's interesting that they're blowing it up before a home one. And you almost, you have to, but you can't make a change like this if you go out. If Tiger would have been the captain in New York and they stomp him, you're not going

to be able to make an outside the box call going into Ireland. So let's see, Rory said that Ryder Cup yours were in disbelief when told about it. But I don't know, I think it's gonna start making a little bit more sense through time. But maybe I'm being overly optimistic here. But maybe it's just far enough away from ZJ to just make me forget that that ever happened. We'll see what happens with the course setup too. Yeah, they've taken some of it out of their hands, but you know.

Liv Valderrama, I don't know how much this you guys got to see. I've only watched one hole. I was watching the final hole and when Anubhan Lahiri hit a wedge onto the green on 18, I got caught up doing something else. And I was like, oh, he's got a two putt and win. He missed about an 18 inch putt to lose the individual and team titles. They

went to a playoff where Sergio won in a playoff and the fireballs also won in a playoff. It was a shocking end to the end of that one. I'm just catching up here, but to see, A, the Majestics were in a really good spot heading into the final round and shot nine over today. And then I just, Adrian Moranque's performance today, I got to take my hat off to him on the cliques. Minus one on a, you know, not a good course fit. He was 11 over through the first two days, picked up the team, both him and Samoya.

Blandy, not the best day for him. So, you know, but finished middle of the pack, T6 for my cliques. So they continue to punch above their weight. Sally, they tied with the aces and they beat Legion or Legion 23. The range goats and Smash were last and second to last. I know my smash burgers get in the last place was a tough

finish, but some notable finishes among some guys we expect to be involved in the major championship coming up this week. Terrell hadn't finished third. P Reed and Louis Oosthazen finished fourth. Cam Smith and Joaquin Nieman finished in a tie for sixth. Bryson, ninth. John Rahm, tenth. So.

Blandy, T14. Blandy, of course, T14. Is he in the open? He's not in the open. I believe he'll be. I don't even think he's in the senior open, Soli. We can talk about that if you'd like. It's disgusting.

Koepka finished tied for 27th, DJ, and a tie for 17th. Abraham Mancer had a very sick club throw, just chucked a wedge into the woods at one point. And John Rahm also got mad at one point. Those are the clips that I saw on social media. AK, good first two rounds, and then lit himself on fire today. He finished tied for 49th, but managed to beat Harold Varner, Kieran Vincent, Thomas Peters and Hudson Swafford.

I will say Valderrama, like the concept of playing team golf of Valderrama, stroke like, like high school style, like stroke play team golf, where, you know, cause it is a, like it does not agree with everybody, right? It is a golf course and, uh, I'm not sure it's good, but it's uncomfortable and it's intriguing. I liked it. It exists. And I think that, you know, it's a good counterbalance to some of the other stuff out there. You saw that with this leaderboard, you know, with bond playing well. Yeah. Um, other news, Riv was officially announced as the Olympic course for 2028. I thought this happened like six years ago.

They sent it on press release on like Friday evening. What? And then I don't know whether to spend like 30 minutes on this or like two and just refer people to Adam Schupack's article in Golf Week. But Bryson and his former coach, Mike Shye, are in quite a public dispute at this point about a junior tour that Mike and Bryson kind of co-started at some point together. And Bryson has basically like stopped funding it is what Mike is at. It's even after Bryson's dad, right? John DeChambeau Memorial Junior Tour is closing its doors due to lack of funding. Again, I don't have time to get through all the

back and forth in there. But shout to Adam Schupack, who got like interviews with both of these guys Bryson as well. Bryson would say about it, it's a complete and utter lie. All of it. It's a disgruntled former employee. And unfortunately, it is what it is. We've had numerous conversations that hasn't worked out from a business standpoint. Mike's statement said that Bryson stated how much he hates nonprofits and would only loan the money to his father's namesake and needed to make money on it.

Needless to say, I'm very disappointed. I'm sure his father would have been disappointed as well. I'm very hesitant to extend any benefit of the doubt towards Bryson, but as soon as I read he hates nonprofits, Mike said he hates nonprofits. I was like, ah, the truth here is probably somewhere in the middle. But it's kind of a, he said, she said about this junior tour that Bryson's kind of refusing to send money to, and he was going to order a non-recourse loan to go that way. Bryson. Technically it would be a, it would be a, he said, he said, said excuse me correct. He Bryson said

it's a it's quite disappointing how he's turned this and spun this. It's a non recourse loan that was going out. I gave my dad's name image and likeness for free on the assumption we'd have a good business plan and it just hasn't worked out. I'm going to be doing a lot for my community just in a different fashion with a proper business plan and done correctly. It's worth noting like this was kind of described as like a charity. It's like some a tour to kind of subsidize massive junior fees and like hosting, you know, tournaments

that were going to be like $60 for kids to play and instead of the hundreds of dollars usually. So I read that as like, do you need a business plan here, man? Or is this like a charitable thing you're doing with the hundreds of millions of dollars that you have? But again, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle on that. Of a special note, he directed this at Adam Schupack. He said, I'm at the Bryson said I'm at a high point right now. And I'm a big character right now. I'm trying to do what's right for the game of golf. And you're trying to bring my image down to hurt the game of golf.

Essentially, this just ain't a story. It's a disgruntled employee, my friend, which that speaks to Bryson, how Bryson views his image, you know, make over, if you will, of like, hey, I'm hot right now. You're not, you're not allowed to criticize me right now. You're not allowed to bring the, bring me down right now. Some of the quotes about like how Bryson, you know, this is how Bryson treats his dad or treated his dad and all that stuff. Like, he said, he said, Mike said, he said I'm his second dad, right? DeChambeau's father, Bryson's dad, dad died in 2022. He said he treats me just like his real dad. He treated his dad like shit. It's not a pretty story. It's it's

like, I don't even really want to, you know, we've said plenty about Bryson. I stand by all of it. I'm sure that I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the middle, but also, yeah, like, you know, it tends to line up with like, hey, like maybe there's an amicable solution to this that doesn't involve like, you know, you guys shitting all over each other in public. Yeah.

Right? Mike would say, all I can say is I did an awful lot for that kid being on pins and needles for the last seven years, dude has literally almost killed, has literally almost killed me. And most of which was to protect him. I know some of the worst stuff imaginable. And now that that they know that my bite is a little worse than my bark. All you had to do is be a decent person and take care of the

junior tour. So yeah, it's read the story. It's it's it's wild. I don't really know what to make of it other than like Bryson seems like a nightmare to work with, which we kind of knew. And, uh, also that he also called up Bryson the Sunday night at the U S open and asked him for 2 million bucks for the tour, which, uh, yeah, again, incredible story from Adam, please go read that. It's definitely worth your time. So I thought one other quote, so I'll, I just, and again, I will echo like this story has like every quote. Mike shy talking about Bryson. The only reason his life has changed is because he's playing better golf.

His whole world revolves around golf. If his golf is good, he's good. If his golf is bad, he's bad. And everything in the world is bad. That is the essence of Bryson DeChambeau. It's I imagine whatever your feelings on Bryson are, you can read the story through those tinted glasses. It is just messy, beyond messy.

And we'll see how long it stays a public mess, I guess. Uncle Yost is out of the Olympics after we celebrated last week that he was in. He is, it turns out they'd already closed the field for the Olympic golf. He has been on the reallocation list, but I think he makes him like first alternate if there is any change in the field. Can we just call that an alternate? Like that was the most confusing press

release I've ever seen that they sent out in it. It's like, can we just speak plain English here? Yeah. It's crazy. It's tough. It's unfortunate. So I feel like Olympic golf could be so, could be so cool and such a positive for the sport. And it's the most unimaginative, uncreative format.

And they just can't get out of their own way. It's, it's, and so I'm sorry. I am excited. They're going to your favorite like golf now, you know, which will be, which will be fun. It's it's and so I'm sorry, I am excited. They're going to your favorite league golf Nassau now, which will be, which will be fun. It's gonna be so much hopefully there's some climate protesters. Oh, I feel like you this shit's gonna get weird one way or another. I feel like I'm with you though, TC. It's such an

indictment of just the powers that be both in the Olympics and in golf that like this is the format that we're just left with. Like we just can't, we're just like too big, we're too bureaucratic. Like why can't we come to a much more fun, engaging type of golf competition? It just, the more I think about that, it just makes me more infuriated, honestly.

And it's the PGA Tour driving the bus. Like, they're the ones that really lobbied, like, good on them to get it into the Olympics. And then they've done absolutely nothing with it. Well, I think there's a proposal on there for LA for like a mixed team event, right? Like, there's a possibility that it changes the next go around. And like, the problem was like the Olympics said,

like, I'm paraphrasing, of course, but like they basically said like, we're not gonna have it unless it's like, like, what is your peak? Like your your biggest competitions? What do you do? It's like, oh, we play four rounds of stroke play. It's like, okay, well, we're gonna have that for the Olympics, then we're not going to do like a gimmick for the Olympics. So I don't know how much blame goes on the Olympics or the tour or whatnot for that. But I think

which is silly, because they could have said like, Ryder Cup, it's a team match. That competition is one of our biggest and that's nationally based. But you could do the stroke. You could do both. Yeah, you could do a team. Like there's how many swimming events are there? You don't need to have just one men's event and one women's event. So anyways, looking ahead, we have the open championship coming this week. We'll have our preview pod will be out on Monday evening. We're going to have a Wednesday happy hour 4 p. 4pm Eastern time on our YouTube channel. Love live shows

on YouTube after every round this week KVV is going to be on site writing TC is on site as well roaming around out there. It's gonna be I'll be near I'll be sighted Jason Jason. Yeah, he's in the site on on Thursday. You're gonna get a lot of selfies in this week TC. Oh you know I will Randy. So I need you but we're gonna do previews and all that but before we leave tonight TC you've called that Tommy's gonna win this so many times and you threw a 12-6 curveball in the chat that Ludwig's gonna win this week and you can't I'm not letting you go into this week with two horses here. Like you need to decide on one of these.

Tommy. Okay. I think Tommy's going to win. Okay. All right. I, that we'll, we'll, we can litigate the rest of that on all our, well I'll finish like six Tommy will win. Okay. So anything else before we wrap? We got the Isco championship going on. I just want to shout out our guys. ZB shot 64 64. Went out early today. Shot 64. Birdied 18th hole and he's tied for the lead right now. I doubt it's going to hold up. They're 22 under and Harry Hall and Pearson Cootie have six holes left to play and

they're tied and one back of the lead respectively. But Neal Shipley continues his great play. He's two back with like five to play. So he continues to be a revelation as well. MLB drafted tonight, Randy. By the time this is out, it's already going to be out there. How does one, two go, Randy? I got them here in in smoke. JJ weather hold to the guardians on a team friendly deal. And I think Yeah, I think the Reds I think the Reds go with Charlie Condon from the Reds have the second pick. Yeah. Yeah, they got lucky in the ping pong balls last year.

I think they go bazana if he's on the board. If not, I think it's Condon. But it's what are these are these position players? Yeah, position like high upside arms. Chase Burns is gonna be the first arm I think probably more infielders, right? Probably. It's they're both in filters, actually. So we did a TC and I'll be doing a chop session on the trap draw this week, featuring a very special guest. If anybody is into our good friend, THG, I believe he is slated to make a triumphant return this week. And we did a seamsters union this past week for the baseball chat as well. I was getting that question in to plug that as well as we had two videos

released this past week. Poosh took on packed dunes, uh, as well as me and TC played a match at Royal tru. And if you want to get a look at Royal Truen ahead of the open this coming week. So, and- Never give up people, never give up. That's the- Never surrender.

The world of the story of that match. Never surrender. All right, we are done pre 6 PM on the East coast on a Sunday. I don't even know what to do with my Sunday night tonight guys, but TC enjoy Scotland. Everyone enjoy open championship week. It's going to be a lot of fun. But TC, enjoy Scotland. Everyone enjoy Open Championship Week. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

Thanks everyone for tuning in. We'll be back. You'll be hearing plenty from us this coming week. Crack on and cheers. Cheers. Be the right club. Be the right club today. Johnny, that's better than most.

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