No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 870 - Thursday Open Championship Live Show

Episode Date: July 18, 2024

Dan Brown (-6) is your solo leader through 18 holes at Royal Troon, followed by Shane Lowry (-5) and Justin Thomas (-3). We talked through the day that was for Shane, JT, Scottie, and Spieth and not for Ludvig, Rory, Tiger, and Tommy. TC attempts to apologize for Tommy Lad before we bring KVV in from the bullpen to talk Bryson. We close out the show with a couple of segments, discuss viewing options, and more. If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining The Nest: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at nolayingup.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club. Be the right club today. Yes! Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! better than most. Expect anything different. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up live show presented as always by our friends at high noon

Sally here TC. Where are you man? I see a Scottish flag in the background. I have no clue in the world where you are I am on the Isle of Aaron in the small town of Cory just south of Yeah of Sannox. So I'm out of here in the beer garden at the Cory Hotel on the coast It's cold out, but it's much nicer than it was earlier We are happy to have some on the grounds reporting you on site there at real true today big Randy's here. Hello, mr. Big Hello guys, glad to be here DJ Pies here. Hello pie man. Greetings guys Ready to talk about a fun round of major championship golf. So much to talk about. We're going to dismiss TC and have KVV pop in a little later.

We're going to talk about some good rounds, some bad rounds, talk about some Royal Troon. We're going to stick our necks out there. We're going to nominate some subtle dogs. We're going to go through some quotes, some moments of joy, all that good stuff. If you have not tried High Noon's all new vodka iced tea, it is made with real vodka, real iced tea, no added sugar, no carbonation. If you're a hard tea lover who's done with the sugary malt based teas, you're going to love the new High Noon vodka iced tea.

It's got 90 calories. It is great for any occasion under the sun. It comes in four delicious flavors that you've got to try. I am on the raspberry. I absolutely love the raspberry. When you see that gold rim, that's how you know it's an iced tea. They got the original flavor. They got peach. They got lemon. Just wonderful flavors that go with an iced tea. So visit highnewspirits.com to find a pack near you. Also in the preview show, we talked a lot

about, you know, the feels we get about the open, the weather, the routing, the yellow scoreboard, you know, waking up to major championship golf. To put it succinctly, we're definitely feeling the joy this week. Round one is in the books. There's plenty of moments of joy to consider. We're gonna revisit that combo later in the show as we talk about our moments of joy brought to you by a partner

who knows a little something about joy. That is Foot Joy, the official shoe glove and rainwear partner of no laying up. Good job being on this episode with the rain that we saw out there, TC. Which TC experienced firsthand today. Did you stay dry out there at Trune? I did, yeah, actually.

Thanks to a, so I woke up, I walked outside, it was kind of balmy, no wind, no moisture. We got in the car, we parked on the far side of the Presswick driving range, there at the back of the property, and walked in, and as soon as we entered the gates it started like shitting sideways and And I didn't wear any water proofs or anything, but I had this foot joy hoodie on that was great But yeah, it was it was not it was not pleasant out there

Especially as you got closer to the clubhouse. It felt like it was it was blowing harder The farther away you got kind of from that dune land there out towards the coast. Great day out there though. I tell you what, man, the RNA, the Open, they put on a really, really good show. It's just everything you need, nothing you don't. The buildout is... Randy, you would have loved it. The buildout is just absolutely spectacular. I went in and got a Brawley. That was the first thing I got. I got one of the yellow Brawley's as well.

But I mean, just the, you know, the logistics, they got the train there, they got the parking lots, they've got the parking ride, they got the taxis, all that. Like it's like one of the most impressive setups I've ever seen for a sporting event worldwide or US. Any performances stick out in particular today, TC? Any golfers you're excited to talk about, maybe not excited to talk about, anything you want to reckon with, anything you acknowledge? A lot of ways we could go with this. He's talking about Tommy here, TC. I was talking

about anybody. All of our predictions were that. I was talking about anybody. I mean, all of our predictions. Yeah, I'd like to. Yeah, I mean, I'd like to recognize Alex Noren. First of all, like, you know, I know, I know, you know, I know there's a lot of haters out there. He was out early, got it done, played well. He was one of the first few groups, followed him for a few holes. Adam Scott, that felt kind of preordained that he was going to play well. I want to shout out DJs guy team Rose

To to qualify in and then and then and then come out and just play rock solid golf was was you know a feat and then you know, we can step Straka might be a links master in training this year in last year To kind of radically different courses with Hoylake and Trune. I think Trune's a lot more of a beast. I think I like Trune a lot more, actually. Brooks seemed preordained. We can keep going on a leaderboard if you want, guys. I didn't feel it was going to go this way. I've been talking behind the scenes with our producer and I think it's time that we address this and we call

for, you know, the conversation. And I think I think it's fair to use the word intervention. I you know, a lot of people are worried. They're concerned, you know, with kind of how far you've led them down the Tommy path. DJ himself got kind of swept up in it this year, and he which I appreciate it has his pick to win. And I needed to see the cosine for a loan this week to try to get out from under

some stuff. He's like, no, just wait. This is the week. This is the week. Just push all your chips in. Come on. Yeah, not, not so much today. TC. And I think he's got the bad side of the draw. Sally often often uses that as a good excuse. He's got the bad side of the draw. Sully often uses that as a good excuse. He's got bad news. The draw is separated by 0.13 shots. I got bad news for you on that one. Oh, you know, I'm saying for tomorrow.

It seems like it's gonna get pretty windy in the afternoon tomorrow. So I was on the ferry. I was on the MV Aaron Isles ferry. Here comes the deflection. The 6 p.m. sailing out of Ardrossan harbor. And I walked around, I walked around the boat and people like a variety of people were just saying like TC like Solly shouldn't be allowed back in Scotland after his McIntyre cakes. So there it is. There it is. No, Tommy, Tommy's still in this

thing. He's he's what 910 back 10 back of Shane Lowry and Dan Brown. You know 9 back of Dan Brown, of course, but you know not the day we were looking for, but certainly not out of this thing. He's shot 63 in the final round of a major prior.

He can do it again. So how did how did Rory play today? How did how did some of your guys play today? Right not play well Block party going big boy This is a theme. This is a theme that's been going on for too long We've just asked him I'll give you all the accountability on the Rory take on the Rory call I just we're just looking for it for the last like 25 majors here. We're just ready for you know some answers

I got so many messages today like hold his feet to make make him apologize. We tried on the preview pod to get you to state will you actually apologize if it goes wrong so I think you do have to add an hour on to your to your Waffle House pet which I think was part of the deal as well. You know I think that's that's harsh but I think you guys gave me till the end of 25 correct. I had to end of 25, correct? The end of 2025. I don't think that's right.

I don't think that's the case. That's about what I expected in terms of apologies. But listen, your connection is a little less than ideal. We're going to let you give, I'll let you have the floor for anything else. Any else from your day that stuck out? I want to shout out the infrastructure, the critical infrastructure around around Trune, 747s flying over your head, the train, put golf up and down this coast.

Today I walked around with KVB today, he snapped that one. I think the Scottish fans are different from the English fans. It's a different feeling here versus last year. Um, you know, no offense to the English. I think I prefer the Scottish open a little, you know, the Scottish host site a little bit more. So, uh, you know, we'll see there and then, and then, um, you know, looking forward to a few good days. It sounds like Saturday is going to get quite nasty, uh, nasty, nasty.

So, uh, I was planning to hike to the top of Goatfell on Saturday morning and so my host here over on Aaron has said that's not looking likely. So we'll see if Tommy can get it going a little bit. It just didn't seem, there was just no momentum. He just couldn't, he just didn't get off the bus and then he birdied the, he birdied the postage stamp, which I think should get really biblical tomorrow afternoon, right as he's coming through. So listen, I'm not liking our chances, Sally, and I'll just, I'll just leave that there.

That's the best we're going to do for now. The work to be done here, we'll do it a later date. We just wanted to bring that, bring that all to the table. So it looks like you're going to have a splendid evening out there on the island. We appreciate you calling in TC. Enjoy the rest of your Scotland trip and we'll catch up with you soon. Thank you. I'm going to go eat some Sir Wolf Chesters, uh, uh, frozen dog treats and just,

just enjoy this, this, this view out here. So Trude is right over there. Please enjoy it for us TC. Thank you very much. Uh, pie man, what's your, man, what's your story of the day? You know what? There's a lot of ways that we can go and I was hoping you weren't gonna call on me first

because I almost kind of want to hear what you guys think but just one, two, three, four gun to my head. I'm gonna say JT and there's a lot of reasons for that. We kind of talked about it a little bit in our fan dual preview, Solly. JT was giving us a of reasons for that. We kind of talked about it a little bit in our, our fan dual preview. Solly, like JT was giving us a couple reasons to believe there were some, you know, obviously some big flashes of life at the Scottish in the first round last week. And he kind of petered out and didn't really get much out of those last three rounds.

But he's, you know, I think we've talked about this in the pod a couple of times where we're lumping him and, and Spieth together together and that's not really the case. JT's playing a lot better golf and it seems like he's figured out the putting which was a catastrophic disaster last year especially. I mean he shot 82 last year in the first round at the Open Championship and now seems to have like fought back and embraced a little bit of creativity. And I don't know for a lot of reasons that we may or may not get into later in the show. Like I'm just I'm very interested to watch JT. He's the most interesting person at the top of that leaderboard for me,

I think. I'd be remiss. I was stunned. Not stunned. I was surprised intrigued by his opening round. But I'd be remiss if I did not mention sustainability models are concerned about sixth and stroke skin putting for the day and get a better that's kind of he has but that's gonna be difficult to maintain for you know, I'd be much more intrigued if he was striking the shit out of it. And, you know, he had a

solid ball striking day. But, you know, listen, I got to call it the models are what they are. I choose no favorites with the models. I just have to acknowledge that when that when that does pop up. Randy, what's the story of the day for you? Yeah, I think the story of the day, I went to bed last night expecting just super low scores and I woke up this morning and it was the opposite of that. And that was a fun little pleasant surprise for me.

So I say broadly speaking, story of the day, just much tougher candidies out there than I would have ever guessed which is I love it I Especially for an open championship I'll piggyback a little bit on DJ You know JT is an interesting name up there But I think even going you know if we chop it at the guys who are even or better It's it's fun to see sp think we're headed for a very fun tournament.

And as TC said, if things really do get biblical Saturday, sign me the hell up. This could be a whole lot of fun. So I think just a fun little tough open that we have that I was not expecting, and those are the best kind. So what about you? You know, I got to think like, I think I did a little open, we did some open Rota rankings, you know, I think I had trune second to last. And again, I was very, very adamant of like, that's not an indictment of trune. The just the road is that good, like put, go make your list and you'll see how hard it is to actually make the list.

And I do think I got to slide it up. I mean, maybe that is just a credit to the conditions and the wind, but like, especially that finishing stretch, the opening and finishing stretch, how exposed that is, you know, that wasn't like an especially windy and tough round, like condition wise, like it was difficult, but it wasn't like an out of the, you know, it wasn't a squall that rolled through that caused it to play really difficult. Just like, Hey, here's some wind,

it's getting up to 20 miles an hour. I'm very curious to see how guys play this. I was a little confused watching the Schefflers and that group as they were tackling the front nine. Everybody taking driving iron off the first and leaving themselves five iron and six iron into that first one. It felt like it was worth... A lot of these guys, it feels like they... And this was talked about, it feels like they got a little... Not tricked with the win, but when you've played all your practice rounds in a completely different wind, they were ... I don't want to say they weren't prepared to play it in this win, but when you've played all your practice rounds in a completely different wind, they were, I don't

want to say they weren't prepared to play it in this wind, but it's, you know, you start visualizing how you're gonna play that first hole. It's like, Oh, it's iron. Oh, it's iron. Oh, it's iron. And sure enough, you wake up like you're not ready to rip driver dead into the teeth of the wind. And it was just interesting to watch that chess match throughout the course of the day. And guys just look uncomfortable. Start lines are really tough on that back nine having to start out the left guys just doing that patented. I recognize the swing of a lot of guys that hold on to try to prevent the wind from wiping a ball off the planet. And it was just a really freaking good watch really proper golf course. And you know, credit to I guess part of the weather scene there is a credit to trune, I guess, you know, that bumps it up in the road. So I'll piggyback off that. Randy, I think a weird win too, right? Because like a lot of, you know, listening to JT's

quotes after the round, like that first hole, a lot of guys are trying to like drive that the last time they were there. Like he was like, man, last time I was there, I was like banging driver trying to get it on the front. Today had seven iron in. And so not only is like that's what everybody says, right? Of course I listen to your guys' previews. I saw the JV and the Varsity, you know, the back nine. Oh, that's the Varsity. And I think that the, what's interesting is like, it's not like it was a total flip win today.

It was just like a little off where like the front kind of played into, which those are supposed to be the easy holes and now all of a sudden they're the hard holes. And so like you would think that makes the back 9 easier and down and instead it's just like straight across and so you've got a whole like 11 that's not playing downwind and like not helping keep your ball straighter. It's just like hammering off the left and you're trying to keep it in

bounds and we saw Rory go out of bounds there. We saw like a lot of messes there. We saw I think Big Shot Bob pulled one left. I think Rom was over there on the left like it's just it makes it so Tiger. Yeah, sure. That that was all was like very, it's just very, very, very uncomfortable. Rory talked about that about getting tripped up with all those crosswinds out there. It's just and that's what I think like maybe circling all the way back is like, I think that's what gets me kind of jacked up about JT is I still

think he is one of the best like capital G golfers up there on that leaderboard and obviously like with Xander and with, you know, Scotty and honestly Shane Lowry, who we haven't even mentioned yet as well is like also on that like very proper player list. But I think JT has like a lot of creativity and when it becomes like we're get we'll get to Bryson down the road, I'm sure here, but like when it becomes a math equation, and it's becomes like we'll get to Bryson down the road I'm sure here but like when it becomes a math equation and it's just like we're gonna tinker all the equipment on Tuesday and by the time Thursday gets here all you got to do is hit it as hard as you fucking can. Like that's not JT's that's not like where he's gonna shine I don't think maybe it was in 2015 and 16 and 17 but like that's not where he's at with his golf game now, but I think when it becomes like hey We're gonna just muck it up and add a bunch of variables like I don't know

I kind of like him better than most of those guys That was why I teased speech in the you know in the preview was like if it's gonna happen It's gonna have to get weird you take like Valhalla and to an extent pinehurst played like an optimized set like optimized golf So what I would say like Bryson can solve that equation. Like the, Lynx golf is not optimized golf. When there's, when there's conditions like this,

there's just no solving for a lot of that. Bryson said it himself. We'll never solve for the win, can't solve for it. Like he got exposed by that today. And that is like, that is golf, right? I mean, Shane Lowry doesn't vault to the top of a ton of leaderboards when it becomes Bob McGowd. Like when it's like this, he's at the top of leaderboards.

And I hate to say that about JT and speed, but they kind of need it to be a funky weird thing to be, to get in contention for major championships in these days, uh, these days. And, and they've got that right now. I echo everything you guys say. One thing I, you know, I just want to point out, uh, on number 11, Dej going back, it's nothing to do with the wind, but Patrick Cantlay, I'm not sure if we're gonna get there. But he hit one of the

most psychotic shots I've ever seen. It was serial killer hitting his drive as the speeding train is approaching him. I I've never bought into to PC being like a true sociopath before, but that could have convinced me. So I think you're exactly right. Things getting weird. Lowry, like a guy like Russ Henley being up there. It's I don't know. I signed Rhodes. Proper player. Yeah, he is. He is. I know. You know, I was proud of my guy. You know, another shout out, Colin Morikawa, he doubled the postage stamp,

but other than that, he had a pretty just clean day. I was proud of him in the Candidties, but yeah, we'll get into all that, I'm sure. Postage stamp was such perfect, like that meme of all the college guys sitting around the messiest table possible, be like, why the fuck can't these guys hit this green? Like watching guys make the same mistake

they kept referring to it on the broadcast. Like you're not feeling as much wind on the tee box off the left. But like watching Scottie Scheffler miss from 120 yards right into the death bunker down the right was like, what are you doing down there, dude? But I'm sure like in person, it was like way, way, way, way, way harder than it was looking to be on TV.

But that whole held up really, really well today. I mean, Menwu Li was tweeting about there's a special raker for the bunker, short, right? Who had like the busiest day, uh, imaginable, uh, with all the balls that funneled down into that right bunker. But I think I'd be good at that. I'm so good at raking bunkers. I think that'd be a good job for me. If anybody's listening and you, and you need, I'm trying to quit, I'm trying to quit this job. I'm trying to go do something.

If anybody's out there and wants me to rake bunkers let me know hey Deet see if you can get a twofer because I'd be interested in that job on the sand dune the guy just holding the green flag when it's time to hit we could be a package deal ready checking red zone as you know three groups stacking up. Oh, sorry, fellas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys are good. Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead. All right, well, I wanna give a shout out to our friends at Omni, Omni, the official hotel and resort to the PGA Tour,

checking in on the inaugural Omni Generation Cup, the first of its kind nationwide tournament for family members at all levels to have fun and compete together. Three of the 12 qualifiers are already complete, with winners punching their tickets to the National Championship in May. Now the full fall slate is open for registration. Reserve your spot at upcoming qualifiers from coast to coast, including destinations like Omni Grove Park Inn in Nashville. I just played there, actually. Omni LaCosta near San Diego or Omni PGA Frisco in Texas. Grab your mom or

dad or maybe a grandparent or an aunt or an uncle. Generation teams of two can register for the chance to qualify for next spring's national championship at Omni PGA Frisco, the future site of the men's PGA championship in 2027. Don't miss out on this year, this year-long celebration of golf, family and competition. Find your nearest Omni course and register today at OmniHotels.com slash Generation Cup. That's OmniHotels.com slash Generation Cup. All that and more only at OmniGolf. Play the possibilities. Well, TC was not our only guy we had on site today. We of course had our main man, the Capital J journalist, Kevin van Valkenburg. Kevin, welcome to the show, buddy. How are you?

Sorry, my value is incalculable. Sorry, if you already made that joke at the beginning. We're saving all Bryson talk for you. Did you get to watch much of Bryson today? I did get to watch a little bit of it. You know, I watched a lot of them in the practice round and I I'm not a betting man. But I a could have predicted that go sideways. I Bryson and

remains one of my favorite because it is just not any the two of them, whether h the range at Royal St. Ge ago or saying the driver going through today basic man, like correcting journalists on their grammar, I guess their how to say a proper word, man,

it was just, it was so fun to have that version of Bryson back where it's just like, yeah man, the equipment, it's just, there's no user error involved, there's just the equipment. It's an equipment related issue. If you missed it, he, you know, they were talking to him, was it Brendan Quinn that was asking the question? I forget who it was.

It was Brendan Quinn, yes. He kind of struggled through the word calculable, which is kind of a different word to say. No, he didn't, he said it perfectly. He said, I know there's a lot of factors that are kind of like incalculable. And Bryson goes, incalculatable. He goes.

He goes, okay. Which is obviously not a word, which is, yeah. I want you guys to know that the RNA is engaged in a little bit of a Kremlin-esque deleting of history because in the transcript, it does not say incalculable. It does not feature that, but the video evidence is there for all to see. To do that, this was gonna be my moment of joy later.

I'll revisit it, but just to have like this Bryce and back as soon as it goes wrong, we have him. There's a Reddit forum that I love called confidently incorrect. Like when you very confidently correct somebody and it's wrong and like to do that on the public stage just made me laugh really hard. And then transition it right into it's an equipment issue

right away was just, it was beautiful. It's amazing. Even he still is doing all of this in a more likeable way. It's not nearly as punchable as it used to be, but it was just fun to have a little bit of snippet of the Bryson that we know back in our lives. Can I say on the equipment stuff and I might need to bring in you know resident Bryson Apologist Cody to back me up on this. I kind of saw what he was saying. I kind of get what he was getting at where he was saying, essentially, I'm paraphrasing. And I think this is just my I think understanding of it is that he's like, essentially saying like, man, all my

stuff is like so optimized for certain conditions. And my driver is meant to hit the ball 190. And it's too cold and too rainy and too windy for me to compress the ball that way and therefore like the drivers not going the way it usually does. I think is what he was saying, which I'm like, yeah, right. But like that's not golf, man. Like golf is supposed to be like your which so like I get what he's saying. But I like am also on the other hand, like yeah, that's why like I would rather watch JT most times because like he's just like give him a hickory set and he would still like go out and

figure it out and like play golf and That's where I'm like, yeah Bryson I think we're talking about two totally different sports which some days is like very interesting and like okay That's kind of a you know, at least interesting conversation, but some days is like yeah. Okay. We're just on wildly different pages Well, it's also just worth noting his best thing He did today was driving like that. So he's like complaining about the driver not not fitting right. He was terrible in strokes, gain approach.

He lost almost two strokes and strokes, gain approach and lost one point six shots on the green. So lost three point six shots elsewhere other than the driving, which he did. And then he turned around and blame the driver on that. So that was like, go look up, Sully, where he had to hit it on six after his drive was sort of in the rough. I mean, he either pulled it, I didn't wasn't there and see it, but he played it up the other fairway completely instead of going towards the pin. It's kind of an insane look on shot tracker. I mean, his big thing yesterday

was basically like, I first do today. It's not coming out of the right window. Like it's just it doesn't seem fair. It's coming out the right window. And that was kind of echoing what we saying. He was saying to the practice round, like it just doesn't make any sense. Well, yeah, dog, like that's links golf in general. But I think he, he honestly was saying a little bit of it at that. He was like, even the putts putting stuff, he was like, Oh, that's Robert the green, you know, what are you going to do? And kind of laughing about it.

So it was like cheerful about it. I, whatever this PR campaign that he, they've kind of put him on the coaching is, has worked in a lot of ways because he wasn't combative like he was a few years ago where he was like, the driver sucks. He was more just like, you know, it's golf. We'll be good. He did it with a smile. Like I said, it was less punchable.

It was still very much like, okay. It's all, yeah, to that point, everything's different about Lynx Golf. That's why we say that like every single day. We talk about these tournaments. The ball spins different. It flies different. It does leave out of a different window. The shots that are required are different.

Like he's played in enough of these to to know that's the case, right? Like it seems like something he should be able to solve for. I can do it. I can do it. I did it. I was finished today at St. Andrews so I can do it. The driver might have helped. The benign setup and the driver might have helped a little bit in that regard. I think actually, sorry, before we close the book on that, we touched on this just a hair when we were going through some of our top 10 players

a couple weeks ago and deciding where to put Bryson. I think what's so weird about this whole conversation and how I would kind of sum it up is everything he's saying, like I said, kind of represents everything I hate about golf, which is like, I'm just going to turn it into a math equation and therefore I just need to punch the right buttons into my fucking graphing calculator. And like at the end of the week, I will be the champion. Like, I hate that. That is not why I like the sport. However, like 90% of setups that he's going to play this year probably fit that. Right.

So it's almost, that's where I'm almost like, dude, if you're, if he's just gonna punt completely on like winning it open with, you know, creative artistry, I'm like, that sucks, and that's not gonna ever be like my favorite player, but man, probably a good business decision, you know? And like a bit of a like, look at the scoreboard, look at my Wikipedia page type of, type of thing. Well, you know, and Phil didn bit of a like, look at the scoreboard, look at my Wikipedia page type of thing.

Well, you know, and Phil didn't learn how to play it open for a long time. It could happen. It can happen. And there could be a good setup break with the weather or what, you know, that could work out really well for him to just pound it and whatnot. And it's just, man, it's just wild. Like you just don't have these conversations with anybody else. Like I think back to Augusta when he's like, man, I just can't figure out the putting because they won't let me use

my GC quad on the putting grid. And like that's what I'm like relying on is like, I don't again, not my thing. But like, man, that's fascinating that like that's where we're at. You know, you're quiet down there, Big Randy. I know. I know this is your guy. No, I mean, it's, I don't have anything. I don't have new ground to add. I, I, I'm glad you mentioned

Mickelson. Uh, that was a comparison that obviously I was drawing, others were drawing during the US Open. And I think that's what's going to be most fun with Bryce and Dej, to your point is like, And I think that's what's going to be most fun with Bryce and Deeg to your point is like, here's where he is now. And we get to watch over the next 10, 15, 20 years, if and how he evolves his approach to not only golf, but links golf specifically, I really look forward to, to seeing that because yeah, we kind of saw it with Mickelson and that impressive win at Muirfield was out of nowhere. So I don't know. I look forward. I just look forward to where the Bryson story goes, because you never quite know where it will go. What else did you see today, Kev? What are the groups you walked with or what stuck out? Well, I went with the non-scientific golfers, Scotty and Jordan.

Had a blast watching them play the front nine. You know what? Like, I really, again, Dej, we were talking about this a little bit in our Slack, like, the fact that Jordan can sort of find it on a place like this after playing so poorly sort of throughout the year and basically seeming like the total lost boy. And then you see him like kind of shaping shots

in the wind and kind of doing his little thing. And man, I had a really fun moment. This is my moment of joy for today is watching him on the seventh tee, like, you know, Scotty hits driving iron, Cam Young hits driving iron. Jordan just steps up there with driver and just rips a ball and immediately is like,

yeah, that's left, that's left. And immediately turns around to the rules official and is like, that's behind the grandstands and And I'm going to need your help on this. Like almost before the ball landed. And then they go over there. He and Greller, you know, that's kind of chatting with Greller on the tee right before that. And they march over there and miracle of miracles. The ball's like in a mud patch. That's like right, you know, left of the green and everybody's like, ooh, and on, and he just hits this little chippy runner that goes up to 10 feet and almost makes a birdie. I was like, ooh and on and he just hits this little chippy runner that goes

up to ten feet and almost makes birdie. I was like, man, that's the speed that I love. That's the guy I want. I want to go to battle with him. I remember the good days. It's like, you know, a great artist, you know, put out a single that, you know,

after having some bad albums for a couple of years and uh you just all of a sudden you're back in. Yes, my name is going to be Jordan's feet to get a job from there. Absolutely. He's just waiting. Oh, I'm gonna go for it. Yeah. He hit it good today, man. It checks out sustainability

models actually like what he did today. So it was fun to why it didn't feel like my my least favorite thing is when they cut to him about to hit a three foot putt and I just literally say out loud Oh God,. Like why? Like why are they cutting to this is bad. I just didn't have that feeling today. It just didn't feel like it was it was you know, like hanging on by a fingernail all day but he did dump in that front bunker on eight. That was that was a tough scene. I think I saw three balls in that bunker and that graphic Cody put up there that which was which was tough but I't know, like I don't know that he can sustain it. Like if you told me that Jordan Spieth was gonna finish this tournament at one under, I'd be like, wow, the thing's really well throughout the rest of the weekend. And you know, so who knows, but it's just,

it's fun to see him at least like not eject like he did at Augusta when he shot 79 or something the first round. So doesn't this, we're gonna do this regardless, cause we do this on every pod and every major pod especially. But doesn't this feel like the silliest major to try to predict? Like from from this moment on? Can you be like, Oh, yeah, he Alexander is gonna step on everybody's throats right

now. I have no idea what is about to happen in this tournament. It feels so because it's so weather dependent. You know, if you get one, you know, through one particular part of the golf course, where there's an especially big gust, like if the big gusts come, and you're already, you're in the seven through 12 holes, which you were out there, it looked a lot different watching those holes. I'm sure it felt very different in those holes. If you're out in those holes during the worst of it, like the guys in the afternoon today, Scottie and Speed Script, they had their last, what, hour, hour and a half, were in pretty benign conditions. They actually got a fair little part of the draw. So it just feels so freaking wide open right now, which is more exciting than like, ah dude, I mean it's gonna be one of these two guys. Yeah, go ahead.

Go ahead, dude. No, I think the thing about that is, I gotta be careful how I say this, because I'm not trying to give anybody a pass or take anything away from this leaderboard, but when you get this big yellow open championship leaderboard going, like that is not a perfect mathematical reflection of how somebody hit the golf ball today. You know what I mean? And that's like the here in J T here in J T

talk about that even at the Scottish where he, everyone's like, man, what the hell happened last week? Like after that great round, you just like really shit the bed. He's like, dude, I hit it great. It was just like weird stuff. It was always constantly like I hit, I missed like eight fairways, just like barely in the first cut. And it was really hard to control my spin coming into those greens. And then you can't control your spin and then you hit it in a weird bunker.

And you make a bogey where any other golf course you would make a birdie or a par. And he's like, that just happens, which is where like, I didn't watch like all of Tommy's round, but like, that's a good example of like, dude, not all those 76s are probably created exactly, you know, perfectly even. Right. And that's like, to your point, it's all, it's like, it's, it's really hard to predict, but it's like, exactly what makes it worth watching as well. What makes it so fun. I have really skeptical that someone who shot a poor round

in the first round is gonna go out and shoot a great round in the second, but I very easily feel like it's very possible to see somebody go 68, 81. It's just you get a bad sort of thing and all of a sudden it goes sideways. I mean, Rory was going okay today until he makes double on the poster stamp.

And then it just was like, man, he had nothing the rest of the way. Can you tell me anything about me and Joe Dean on the leaderboard KVV? I could not tell you a single thing about me and Joe Dean. I feel like that is dirty pool to spring that on me. No, I didn't know if you had any, any secrets up your, your sleeve. I can't tell you anything either.

I think Joe Dean was the name of my high school principal. So that's his you know, if I would advocate calling him the principal. They were showing an image on Peacock. He was a I guess he was a delivery guy at one point. I didn't have the audio up for that. A shot of him didn't pay more for the audio. So yeah, it's a price increase. Yeah, it might happen tomorrow. As as we're talking about tomorrow, just I don't know if this is gonna show up. But I just want to say one thing I do

get excited about when I when I do pull up the app, if you can see in the middle of that, it has the wind graphic up for true. Like I it takes a pretty bit. It's a pretty big hurdle to clear to get the windy little few hours there on the Apple app for for weather. So that looks worse than today in terms of, you know, this is sustained 17 miles an hour, gusts 27. That's like in the town of Trune. I feel like out on that,

those first few holes is even more exposed and it could blow pretty darn hard. I mean, that's like starting around noon tomorrow is when it gets pretty tough. I want to issue an apology also. Me and Joe Dean has Three top tens this year on the DP world tour So I just you know, keep keep that in mind. I'll I'll rescind my any kind of flippant condescension

He's number 254 in the world. I'm sure there's worse players in the field than that Well, it's not as condescending as us starting the show before Daniel Brown got it in the house But she has just moved to five under par and tied for the lead with Shane Lowry as the as the as the as of us recording this show here at four oh seven p.m. on the East Coast. Two things. That's the beauty of you know the open being wide open. I'm gonna stick my neck out here and say damn Brown's not gonna be a factor on Sunday. KVV. Anything any big takeaways with with Scotty from that group or anything that that stuck out to you watching him? I think like he played, you know, around that could have

been a lot better today. I mean, obviously, that's sort of this that when he doesn't shoot like way under par, that's always a deal with him is didn't make pots. But man, he hit some shots out there that I was like, God, he's such a proper golfer. You know, he had a really cool shot into three and missed the putt. And he had an unbelievable shot into 16 after Spieth had hit that three wood in there, missed that. We talked to him a little bit after in the presser

and he was kind of grinding his teeth a little bit about burning a few edges and stuff. But he's, I mean, I think Scotty and Brooks are honestly my two people right now who I would say, you know Most likely to be one of those two guys for me We were joking in the thing afterwards like a guy like Joe Dean or or even Dan Brown They're gonna take care of themselves. You know, that's the writer joke. Like should we write about Dan Brown? No, that'll take care of itself lot. You just wait that one out

so Scott is gonna play I mean I like I have no credibility on this. I first said Roy is going to play well, but I think Scott is going to be around in the weekend. I don't disagree with anything you're saying here, KVV, but what I do want to push back on and ask is like, what does Xander have to do to be in that conversation that you just mentioned? Because he's two under, he's three back. And like, in my mind, I'm like, oh, like that, he's probably like, guy. You know, it's funny, the people, the press people were

asking if anybody wanted to talk to Xander after his round, and we're kind of like, yeah, sure. And then Xander came in and actually gave like really insightful stuff. Like he said some awesome, like interesting comments about the wind or how like, you show up, the wind is totally different than what you think it's going to be. So you just march out to the range and you plop your, you know, track man or your quad or whatever your feel thing is foresight is. And then you just start hitting

all kinds of different things like hit 10 cuts, hint at draws hit and think, all right, it's taking 40% off things into this wind and for and he was like, I was so lucky that my ball on the like the wind was the same on the driving range. It was going to be on the first hole because I was pounding driver down there. And now all of a sudden, like I'm, you know, hitting three iron is like that would have been so hard for me if the wind hadn't been the same way on the driving

range, but thank God it was. And then the rest of the round, you just kind of like melding a little bit of like science and art. And it was honestly, I think Xander's like sneaky, insightful about a lot of stuff. It's like honestly would like him to be out, you know, on the up there more and give more sort of discussions, but hell, that's probably on the media to like, ask for him more and push for a little bit more. I think that's a sweet site too, because like contrast that. And again, I'm just like sitting here reading transcripts. So like, maybe I'm missing some of the context or whatever.

But reading what Rory had to say after his round was almost not the opposite, but it was very much like, oh, man, I really had a game plan going in, and then I just didn't adjust and was totally lost. And that's where it's solid to your point on why are these guys hitting these clubs off the first tee? I almost wonder if that's what they wrote down on Tuesday. And therefore that's what we're doing. That's where I just keep coming back to, man, who do I trust to like not to make it like a fucking football game, but it's like,

who's going to go into the locker room at halftime and make the adjustment in the secondary? Yeah. And I'm like, I mean, Shane Lowry, probably that guy. Xander kind of seems like more of that guy than a lot of these other dudes. I would think Scotty, but who knows? So I don't know. That's kind of the only like game within the game that I feel like is kind of like the next level of of trying to pay attention to who can do that

kind of stuff is kind of where this thing is won and lost. I feel like no there. There just seems to be there's no like uniform stock like shot you can hit to get away with everything. You just have to do a bunch of different stuff like you. The Gorse comes into play big time and we saw a lot of Gorse balls today or threats of course. I mean Matt Wallace was in the lead early and he put an eye on approach shot into the ninth green right into the Gorse made triple bogey like JT was vibing. He was four under par hits one into the Gorse made triple bogey like JT was vibing. He was four under par hits one into the Gorse on 12. Like there's just the there is a gauntlet you're gonna have to run through so many different parts of it. Even the parts where you get into

the more quaint, you know, kind of quieter parts without the wind. That's where the Gorse comes in and it becomes like, yeah, there's there's bunkers you got to avoid. There's thick rough on top of the course. Like it just doesn't seem like anybody's going to be able to cruise like you're gonna have to take on risk with a lot of different kinds of shots. And that's what it's just like, that first hole was just like, man, guys weren't even coming. There's that bunker that's like in the middle of the fairway to the left of the

fairway, which would be in play maybe with driver but it even looked like, I don't even know if drivers reaching that bunker today with how far back a lot of these guys were leaving it. And it just, it did. Some guys look a little shook out there. And you know, it's like really, the conditions are really up when you just watch pros miss by 30 yards on approach shots from like 155. Like get the yardage way wrong on the way in. It's not like it's a shitty shot. It's just like, Oh, dude, there's some variables out there. Like it, you know, it, Shane Lowry is the guy and Shane and Dan Brown are the guys that handled all those variables the best on day one but How long Randy? How about we get four different wins just a different wind every day just fuck with them. So I know I like that's what I'm

Oh god, you want to talk about what makes me excited. That would be it. There was a great little anecdote I think Tara might have delivered it on peac, just about Dan Brown going out, I think late last night by himself and just kind of walked the course and she introduced herself to him and was like, hey, what are you doing? He was like, I just need to get out here

and at least kind of see and feel how this wins gonna be for me tomorrow evening. And she was like, good on him, you know, putting in a little extra steps, little extra work to kind of wrap your head around how some of these holes might play in the win. You know, I don't know. I like stuff like that. I love imagine like doing that at Valhalla. Like, oh, yeah, just, I just need to be out here and just like, feel what this is going to feel like tomorrow. How many Hey, here's a random one. How many copies of the DaVinci code you guys think have been sold worldwide? 15 million?

Oh, like, way more. 80 million 80 million copies. Still making it went and became a professional golfer? That's amazing. Crazy, man. But not a lot of people read the lost symbol, so we'll see what happens tomorrow, I guess. I don't wanna say I'm rooting. Hard to follow it up, man.

Hard to follow it up. I don't wanna say I'm rooting against Dan Brown, but I've never read the Da Vinci Code, and if you guys are gonna do the jokes all week, I'm gonna be so far behind that I'm kind of fortunate. I mean, you know that's where Opus Dei comes from, right? Yeah, that's where Neil's gonna be in that, yes. Yeah, Neil's where we're going to need Neil to be in that. Yes. Yeah, Neil's going to come in hot. Oh, that book whips. Truly. I love that book. I hate to say it. It's like every chapter

size is like four pages and it all hangs on a cliffhanger so you can just burn right through it. While we've got you, Kev, any other guys stick out to you that you just are are are worthy that you want you want to chime in on before we let you go. I mean I asked Tiger a question. It was pretty bleak out there but you know we did sort of sit around and want to hear from him and I think one thing I wanted to ask him which I think is a little bit we talked about on the show last night was you know is there any chance that this is you're kind of building towards like a future

that's like six months from now, a year from now. And he was kind of like, yeah, I honestly, he was like, I thought that was gonna be this year. I thought I was gonna get to play more and my body just won't really let me, but I feel a lot better now than I did last year and a lot better than at the beginning of the year. So he's like, I'm hopeful that next year

that this will pay off. And he kind of talked about next year's majors, like without saying, who knows, we'll see, this could be my last one. It was very much like, yeah, like next year I'll be in better shape than this. And I think if you're looking for a kernel of hope from your Tiger fandom, I think that's a decent one

to sort of say like, hey, maybe look at this in the longterm of like, you know, what is he turning 50 this next year, like, you know, maybe he's got two years left. And maybe the end of that, he has a Phil type moment that this is all kind of building towards. I think that's right, honestly, like, I'm not dying and living on every shot. And I don't we'll get to this, I'm sure. But like, I don't need to watch them all live until we get there but he is usually

like pretty right on some of the long-term predictions I feel like because we've gone through some of these phases where it's just like Man, it's just not there and I'm working on this and I'm really close and you're all like Like yeah, sure dude, like you're bone and chips into the grandstands You got the yips like it's over and then it's like he figures it out He's like kind of does what he says he's gonna do so yeah if that's how he feels I'm like yeah okay well you know I'll hear it out but again I'm like I don't need to watch every shot live on TV while he's you know on the way but yeah can do cats got nine lives man well I hear what you guys are saying it just I

can't get it he sucks at putting he stinks. Like he's not good at it. It was bad today. It's been bad every time we've seen him. And it just, so here's a question that I've been thinking about. Do you think that tiger would go to a mallet or a like long Potter, if it meant that he could win again? I honestly don't think he would.

I think that that there's too much ego involved. He just does not see himself that way. He could not stomach the idea of a long Potter or any other kind of like, you know, old man helper Potter, uh, maybe acts by accident somehow. Like he just picks one up. Uh, but I just, I can't see him doing it. He messed around with JT's Potter. I saw in one of the open videos. Oh, God, he got pretty, pretty Scottie.. He's got pretty, pretty.

Scottie. See if I can get a pick Scottie. Steve Scottie's got the same number. All right. We're gonna let you go, man. Thanks so much for chiming in. Stay dry out there tomorrow. I look forward to the reports from on the ground. Appreciate it. Will do. Thanks, boys. I want to give a shout out to our friends at Mizzouho. Mizzouho Americas is a part of Mizzouho Financial Group, the 15th largest bank in the world. Mizzouho Americas is a corporate and investment bank

serving corporate institutional clients. They advise and fund business looking to go public, raise money, expand operations, or connect with large investors. They also help finance large infrastructure projects that promote civic improvement. While you may not know the name Mizzouho, you likely know many of the

name brand companies they have helped or the projects they have funded. It is a name worth knowing that the title sponsor, the Mizzouho Americas, opened on the LPGA Tour. They do a lot of support for our LPGA content and are doing a lot of great support in the women's game in general. So big shout out to Mizzouho. For more information, visit MizzouhoAmericas.com. That is mezoohoamericas.com. I feel like we need to have a little Rory conversation here. I feel like we've been deflecting and punting that one down the road a little bit. I said on Monday I was gonna host a block party.

I kind of changed that a little bit Wednesday and just said like we rented out a little part of the bar. And like it's an open bar. Like I'm taking care of the tab, but we're not close to our minimum at this point. It's kind of a bleak scene there's about four and a half people there at the party today it was maybe held a little too early in the day but I still I'm weirdly don't regret falling for it and thinking that he would do it because I don't know why exactly but

I'm happy to take anything you guys want to throw at me any criticisms and critiques anybody in the comments that wants to let me hear it on me calling that Rory's gonna win this. Hmm Randy you want to kick this one off? Well I just go back and you know if you just kind of lay it out like, let me just present some facts for you. Okay. Has been a decade since he's won a major. Okay, let's start there. It's been five years since you killed him. It's been five years since we, you know, had a wonderful little ceremony for him. There were a lot of generous golf golf pass donations. But more than that, coming off probably the most soul crushing defeat of his career. I'm just not sure how that one plus one equaled. Oh no, he's going to win this. He's got

this. So I don't mean to like take the shot. I'm just like it. I the best way. I just it was gonna come together. The bounce back. You know, we did it now, you know, after today's round. It'd be even more impressive. Yeah. Which is he out of it? Maybe, you know, I, Tron went a lot of places. I didn't know if

Tommy was out of it at five over. I didn't know if he was in it. You know, maybe, maybe Rory bucks KVV's thing and you know, he played horribly today and goes out and shoots sixty six tomorrow. Who knows but yeah. It's a it's a weird one. I feel like going back to something like kind of what I said earlier, I don't

think all these high scores are created totally equal. Like, you know, he was four over on two holes, basically two swings, one that put him in the bunker. That was like the worst place to be on the golf course and one that put him OB on 11. And I mean, that's that's a big chunk of of the problem, obviously. So like outside of that, I mean, I know he wasn't great, but it wasn't, I don't think catastrophic. However, I was kind of with you, Randy, I was like, man, I actually I put him down for a first round leader bet on on our fan duel show, just as I like, maybe there's some gases leaving the body that, you know,

he really figures it out. And who knows, but largely like for a win this week, I don't know, man. Some of the... I went and walked the high line with my headphones on and made some business calls is the Kendall Roy vibes of all of it. I'm just like, man, I don't think I'm going to be a part of this. I don't know. I don't know. I need to kind of sit and think about it for a while, I think. But it's just, it's not real fun, man. I think a lot of what I'm feeling as a lifelong Rory fan is it just feels like when I'm having the most fun rooting for him is when he feels the most like himself, and that is a massive cynical projection, like parasocial projection from me, like what I think of as himself when he seems happiest. And man, right now it seems like we are very, very far from that, where he's just like, no, I'm closing people out. I'm getting more focused. That's every time he does that. I'm like, Oh, dude, come on. That's not who you are. Like that doesn't make you happy clearly. Like what are, what are we doing doing and that kind of feels like the period that we're

in right now where I'm just like, yeah, I don't know if I really want to be along for this for the ride here. Let me know what happens, but I'm kind of good and the genesis of my whole like I'm not going to try to predict Roy's next major win that I abandoned like I think this is the third time I've abandoned it in this little stretch here was not that I don't think he's going to not win another major. It's that it's just like, you don't know what you're going to get out of him in these things.

And like the, the times when I don't think he's going to contend, he is one shot back at, at LACC and one shot back at Pinehurst. And then the time when I think it's right, he just goes out and lays the stinker. I've been on this side many times of thinking he's going to win the major and he goes and lays out that first round stinker and you just don't know what what's gonna come. It's if you can't paint his major performances with one brush It's not he stinks in majors It's not he's only has close calls and can't get it I do not stink in majors that he's by far the most consistent player in majors of his generation

Yeah, like he is in all of the majors Huge producer. Yeah, Nick Oliphant is saying DJ's picking Rory Augustine. Maybe, maybe. Sure, sure. Cross that bridge and we'll get it. Soly, let me ask you this. Had you known that the conditions would be what they are, would that have influenced the pick more so

than perhaps when you made it earlier this week? Because I just come back to like, we were spending time talking about Bryson week because I just come back to like we were we were spending time talking about Bryson and you know you just can't maximize your way around like a blustery rainy windy links open and I don't

know Rory has never given me like the feeling of I'm just going to find a way to get in the ball in the hole. He he to me he's always fallen more on like the things have to be perfect and like let the Ferrari out of the garage instead of you know, hey, you got to be a little bit of a mutter. And the conditions weren't crazy at Pinehurst, but the course was and like he navigated all that he made putts too. Like it just felt like, I don't know, I felt like he could drive it good enough you know, leave himself irons in to hit a lot of middle of greens and make a lot of easy pars, which like every par today was a good, good score on a particular hole.

His comments afterward, you know, I know he's trying to simplify it for the media. He said, It felt OK. I've come in here playing really well. I played well at the Renaissance last week. I think if anything, it was more the conditions got the better of me, these crosswinds. was more the conditions got the better of me, these crosswinds. He also later say it was definitely tricky. It was difficult. Yeah, you plan you play your practice rounds and you come up with the strategy that you think is going to get you around the golf course. And then the wind is like that you start you know, other options present themselves and you start to second guess yourself a little bit, which listen, I appreciate him like laying that out there as well. But like, a

part of like game planning was going to be like, Hey, is the wind going to be this direct? This wasn't a surprise wind direction for Thursday. I said this on Monday, like it's gonna blow out of the south on Thursday, that part of your game plan should be what are the course conditions going to be Thursday and how are we going to attack it? Like I don't, this was not some giant curveball that got thrown in there. This should have been like crosswinds. I feel like at

your level, Roy, you should be able to handle. Right? Right? Yeah, that's kind of part of the deal. That's the test today. So like- It just feels like the best hitter in baseball coming up and just being like, oh man, I just wasn't expecting that. I just wasn't expecting that movement. Yeah.

Like I just kind of was like hoping he'd just like throw it really, if he can throw it really fast, that's fine, I'll keep up. Just has to be in the right spot. It's just like, dude, what? I thought you were supposed to be like the best You're supposed to be like the dude. How are crosswinds like tripping you up? Like, what are we? What are we doing? And I get when you're games no Dean's dancing out there. It's not not everybody

What he's not marrying up here? It's like when your swing is not feeling dialed the crosswinds are gonna expose you and so like, you know He's kind of sound played but also I found this interesting. I played well at the Renaissance last week, like, Yo, this is not the Renaissance. And this does not translate something we've talked about every year about the Scottish Open, like that is a different style of golf course, definitely different conditions and is not this kind of test. So like, if you're using that as your training ground for this, I mean, granted, he was, you know, he's been very close to winning this

tournament. And, you know, I'm not blaming him playing Renaissance, but don't use that as like transitive property of like, Oh, I played well there. Like that's going to translate to truth. Like, nah, that's not quite how it works. So what's, what's crazy is the strokes game profile. Like he didn't do anything well today, you know, get, getting back to like the high rounds aren't all created equal. And it was just like all bad. I want to, I've used the strokes game a couple of times already in this, but I do want to just throw this caveat out for like a week like this one with wins and like coffin pot

bunkers, like can end up getting a lot of noise in there pretty quickly of like you're around the green can look really like speeds around the green looks terrible. Like you plugged a ball in the bunker on five, right? That's gonna just basically cost them a shot. And so it can drive a ball out of bounds. Totally. That'll lose two shots.

That'll murdy. But that's the whole thing here is like, you have to avoid the land mines. Totally. You have to do it. And it just, that did not happen. So let's get, let's stick our necks out. Why don't we stick the KVV memorial stick your neck out prediction? What's

what's any could be about anything? What are you going to predict is going to happen here the rest of the way? So remind me, are we doing actual predictions? Or are these supposed to be okay? Yeah, like stick your neck out a little bit. I mean, I think Xander wins. Whoa. I do. I think like, you know, I was thrown out most consistent player of in the majors with with Rory and I think that's very much true, especially the last like three, four or five years. But Xander is kind of right there, man. He does

not go away in these things. And even though he doesn't win until recently, like he is always there and I will just keep going back to kind of what we said in the earlier part. I think he's going to adjust the game plan and he's going to hit all the shots. And I think he's got some creativity. I think he's got some confidence. I don't know. He's my pick right now. Randy, you want to stick your neck out.

Yeah, I was well, I totally subscribed to the open championship being by far. Like let me say, I have no idea what's going to happen. And anybody that does is lying to you. So with that said, I love I was I I of course picked Scotty not to win. I might be flipping on that after one round like he's the guy where dude II know the putting and II know that's been a prolonged bugaboo and we can't just expect some putts

to start falling for him but if if he's hitting the ball and and and he's kind of feeling himself like that's where I start right there, Scotty Scheffler. But I do think Shane Lowry is a big problem. If the conditions stay up, they mentioned he's probably the best bad weather player in the world right now. I think Shane Lowry is a big problem for anybody that wants to win this tournament. wants to win this tournament. So some interesting notes, just off the top, do you think Scottie today improved his chances of winning or made his chances of winning worse?

Probably worse. He actually improved. He improved. It went up three and a half percent based on how he played today. But he was plus 450 to start the week on FanDuel. He's now plus 400. Like he's positioned himself well. He's

four shots back. Again, the weather can be fickle and it's tough to predict, but he might get the good end of the wave tomorrow. I think his last three, four holes are going to be quite tough with the wind, but it looks like it's going to be a little easier in the morning. He's off at 5 a.m. Eastern, 10 a.m. local time. That could be a good thing for him. He is hitting it really good. 10 a.m. local time. That could be a good thing for him. He is hitting it really good. It kind of a big day for eliminating a lot of his biggest threats. Like honestly, so many dudes like shot, shot themselves out of it on on on the very first day. When I'm talking about Lubbock, he shot 4 over. I mean, Rory shot obviously 7 over. Bryson shot a gajillion. Kamp Smith shot 80 today. Like a lot of dudes that like will eat up some of that win probability.

I'll just go through this right now on Data Golf. Scotty's 16.1, Xander 15.8, Lowry 14.6, nobody else above 5% chance of winning as of right now. Like, so I could see Scotty's, that was gonna be my pick. I picked Bryson after Thursday of the US Open, U S open and I'm going to take Scottie. Now should have been on them to start. Yeah.

Which I'll say like we were somewhat robbed of a Scotty Xander, uh, at least Scotty being in it at ball Halla. So man, if we could end this major season with a Xander Scotty dual throwing a little Shane Lowry doing his thing over there, like that's a, that's a hell of a golf tournament. Who do you want to win? Who would be your dream Sunday? Like if I could pick anybody off this, you know, anybody at let's call it even or better. I think it's I think I would go with Scotty just because seven wins two majors like we're just getting into territory that's like, oh shit, like this I think it's gonna go with just because seven wins, two majors. Like, we're just

getting into territory that's like, oh, **** like this is historically he's he's doing it. What about Brooks? Brooks would be a fun. I'd probably put Brooks right there. I'd put a spieth major out of nowhere up there but I think I

would pick pick Scotty. I think a spieth will be the most fun. I think we're kind of in the still living in a little bit more realistic world of like not expecting that to happen. It's also like we can have a tent. I definitely have a tendency to do this, like probably a little dismissive of Lowry of like one, he's won this championship before Scotty has not. And two, like we just got done talking about how this is a whole different style of golf and different tests.

Like it's not to say, like if we, again, if we were at Valhalla, I don't think Shane would be able to keep up with Scotty over 72 holes, but in something like this, he absolutely can't. It's, it's not just a bomb and gouge, you know, that kind of test. And Larry could definitely do it, but I kind of started the, I kind of started things off this way. And just to elaborate, I guess, like I, I would never try to convince anybody that they should be JT fans

I understand he looks very bitchy on the golf course. I understand he you know, he is not everybody's cup of tea I think his last couple years have been low-key like really interesting and I think he I Certainly certainly certainly do not know him at all But like have just had some really good interactions every time I talk to him I'm always like man There's a lot more like going on here than I think people realize. I think he's a smart, insightful, interesting dude who's like, gone through like, probably the

bigger struggles in his life, right? Like he's just cruised his entire golf career. And now the last couple years have been a little bit of a struggle. And I think he's had to figure it out. He's had some pretty public embarrassments, numbers that start with eights over the last couple years, being what looked like a charity pick on the Ryder Cup team. Like I think him clawing all the way back

into winning a major, maybe it's not on the same level as a Scotty or Brooks or Spieth or whatever type of victory. I'm with you guys, but like I would get down with that. That would be very cool I think, because I think there's a big tail there. And this is anecdotal, maybe doesn't matter to people, probably almost certainly doesn't,

but I would say there's no bigger delta between like a personal experience I've had with a tour guy and like how I sense the public to sense that person or react to them. Like I'm always, I do get where it kind of comes from. It goes back to my thing of like, you be, it's amazing what golf fans will base their like or dislike on a guy. It's basically like your behavior on the golf course like will define in your mannerisms

will define your fan. Three of us do with every other sport, right? Sure. Totally. Don't like that guy. We'll do the exact same thing. Yes. Don't like that guy. But like we've done a bunch of great content with him. He's not the same thing. Yes. Don't like the guy. But we've done a bunch of great content with him. He's funny. He's just a great.

I've really enjoyed our relationship over the years. And he's good at slagging us off and throwing a jab in and just like a very real person, easy to root for, I think. And it doesn't really translate for whatever the last couple of years. The sentiment, I feel like, has shifted on him for kind of whatever reason. If Bryson can make his way back, then God, I hope JT can.

Because if you, 100 times out of 100, who's like a better person, an easier guy to root for, I'm taking JT over Bryson. That would not, and Bryson's probably gonna win that among the public like 90-10 as of right now, which doesn't seem quite right. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting.

JT's got some of that from team sports. You know that that guy who, if he's on your team, you love him. And if he's not on your team, he drives you crazy. For sure. I feel like that's just where JT boils out. Probably has a bit of the, you know, that's the coach's son type of vibe.

Like he's just, I get it, man. He's easy to not like from afar. And I've I've felt that way in the past too But I don't know the more I watch of him and the more it's like we've said about you know Colin when he struggled last year. It's like we've said with Scotty and like the putting stuff It's like man when these guys go through at least a little bit of something It just got it just makes them a little more interesting at least and I feel like JT I don't know if he comes out the other side of that. I think that's that's a good story Tony what you got you're gonna say I'm totally wrong. No, I just want to call out one of our commenters We love our live show commenters here calling out a a comment that Shane made post round

He said fortunately enough I came here two weeks ago and I played in this wind I saw the golf course in every possible wind I could see So if you talk about prep and everything else while others were walking around checking out buildings in New York City or chilling in Dallas, you know, Shane is out there doing it. I truly think that he's gonna win this tournament. I know that we talk about the hot putter and I think he had like six or seven holes in a row with the one putt today. If he had like six or seven holes in a row with the one putt today if he can actually hold on to that momentum but if you're talking

about somebody who plays in tough conditions and just bears down and will hold on to it like I think that Shane the other person I can't believe you guys have him. Let me guess I was getting ready to bring him up is it Fitzpatrick? No I wasn't going to say that I was somebody who to bring him up. Is it Fitzpatrick? No, I wasn't gonna say that I was somebody who's won the British Masters before right that seems like a pretty good thing. He's Open before all right. He's one of the cat Alex Noren Alex Norton come on guys and his home club Visby He's used to playing in these rain all the time

You want to talk about 5 30 a.30 AM tea times getting out there with the boys? I mean, this is his bread and butter. Plus, he can take all these weeks off until the playoffs. He's got to be loving the position that he's in. You want to, I'll do it. Norrin versus the field right now, Cody. I was going to say, you can give me a top 10. I might give you Norrin and Lowry versus the field.

Who would you take it that? Really? I don't know. It's interesting. It is definitely interesting. But bad weather's coming. You can give me a top ten for. I give you Norton and Lowry versus the field. Who would you take it that really? I don't know. It's interesting. It is definitely interesting. But bad weather is coming. I just don't think that. So far to go. So far to go. I can't.

I agree. I agree. But I think like where you put that line at, I think is at even par. And if it's. Far back is too far back already. Well, that's what I'm saying is that I don't know if it's too far back already. Well, that's what I'm saying is that I don't know if you guys talked about Rory definitely not a mutter dude from which I don't really understand because he's from Northern Ireland. We think that

he can play in all these wind and everything. He just can't do it. All right. You brought up great points about JT. I think he is somebody and speed. And I don't I'm still don't know about Scotty and it you made up a brought up a good point big about flipping on him this this early. But I don't know about him, man. Well, I think that's honestly that's part of the fun I I want to see him I want to see him in contention in shitty weather like that we won't know until we see it, I guess.

Can I ask you guys this? The longer we do this, the more gray I see in all of these things, I'm almost done being like, oh, he's gonna win that, that's over. Like he does this every time and it's gonna happen every time. And like, I'm also done like kind of looking at somebody like he can't do it, like he won't do it, can't do it.

Like we said that about, how many times we say that about Xander? How many pods did we just dismiss him completely and he goes out and wins a major championship right like it it just seems like this championship of all is like super hard to to one paint guys in a like in a certain color to say like he can or can't do this it's just I kind of throw my hands up at something like dude we're gonna find out what happens and I don't think I just don't view every tournament It's like defining a guy as much as I did maybe five years ago. I mean Rose D come on. You gotta say the grit your guys showing just incredible heart out there The Justin Rose bit for a minute I think that's awesome going out qualifying Proving it doesn't have to and he just keeps showing up like again cheap shot but contrast that with like fucking Taylor Goucher some of these guys are like dude I'm not going to qualify for that get out of here do you know what I

think the Scotty thing is when it becomes adverse weather it's not so much his stance and I understand people are like oh yeah you got to have a solid base like it's Scotty knows how to hit the golf ball. It's the best, I know. It's this horrible fucking vest, man. It throws me off so much. I don't understand for a company that every single time Nellie puts on her burgundy outfit, I'm like, oh, we're going to fucking battle.

Like, come on. Like she's unstoppable and that thing. And then you see Scotty and young Tom Kim put these things on. I'm like, what the fuck are we doing, man? Tommy? I I did not know you were gonna go there, but I was joking But yeah, it's such a bad look these trash kid things they put on them There might be one Nike rep who's doing like the outerwear and like Big Shot Bob's stuff They're like, yeah, you know, they've been here for 25 years

We just kind of we let them have that quarter and you know It's fine. Cause like none of that stuff seems like it fits with anything else. Uh, as we're, as we're talking, we also have a new leader in the championship. Dan Brown. Shit. So six, six hundred. That's so sick.

He birdies 18 bogey free, uh, round. That would be very Todd Hamilton. That'd be sick. Uh, uh, we're ready to nominate some subtle dogs. I think Cody just nominated a bunch of subtle dogs. I think Noren would be his subtle dog. I don't know if you have an order that you'd like us to go in here, Cody, for- I think Noren's a good place for me to start, but Dej, let's go with you first. Sure. This is a quick one. There's a guy that Cody and I shout out a decent amount and I'm not pretending

like he did anything unbelievable today. I believe he shot 73, but this is his scatter plot. And I'm of course talking about Mateo Manicero, our boy. Those that are listening on the podcast cannot see this, but I take my word for it where I just say that like his, his deficiencies in a massive way are driving distance and putting. And I'm just like, man, that's gotta be such a hard way to play not only pro golf, but major championship golf. And the fact that he, I mean, he went out and just kicked the shit out of some guys today. And I know it's not, you know, it's 18 holes and small sample size or whatever, but I just, uh, a bit of appreciation for our, our boy King Cody that, uh, you know, has just a bit of appreciation for our our boy

king Cody that you know has just had one of the more interesting careers I can think of I I love it I check for his name every time he's in the field he's really good there's two weeks in a row too that he's played a solid first round so it hopefully he holds on a little bit better sorry what do you got I'm gonna nominate a guy you guys have accused me of ripping on in the past, but I will deny those claims. No, of course not Foxy. He hates Foxy. He was included in the European Ryder Cup team last year. We had some bets

around some of that, but he's just really established himself as one of the top players in the game. It's just very normal to see him. He's fallen out of the top. He was in the top 10 as of when I made this, but Seth Straka, one under par around today that just feels very normal. He's got the, you know, I had to do it to him stance going right there, which I just love about, about my guy. So I've become a really big step, Straka fan and I'm an appreciator of his game. So he's my dog today.

We haven't had him on the pod. Have we? I feel like that would be really good. He just, that's gotta be a fascinating story. Just coming from where Austria to Valdosta, Georgia, and just becoming one of the best players in the world. Like, I don't know, I'm with you. That's a great nomination. Big. Listen, I was feeling a little just nostalgic,

really all week, of course, last time we were at trune, no way. Yeah. Putting on a show. I want to shout out lefty. I thought he displayed all the characteristics of a subtle dog today, especially already shot 73 to over like not bad, but But going out, bogey par, bogey bogey, like, this should have been an 80 or an 81 on any other day. But he righted the ship and he got it in at 73 and I love that

for him. You know, I was having fun watching him hit golf shots today again, which was personally fun. I love that for you, Big. That's great. Yeah. thank you. Couple questions and we'll get to a few things here and wrap, Jonathan K. Martin, who has a better finish, Bryson or Rory? I'm still wrestling with this one.

I don't know what I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say Rory. Bryson, I keep coming back to every word that came out of his mouth was not like, I need to change how I'm hitting it. It was just like, the math doesn't add up. The equipment stinks. Yeah, I don't see how you correct that one. I could see Rory sneaking inside the cut line tomorrow. So I'll say Rory. I'm gonna say Bryson just because he actually fought back a little bit on this on that back nine.

It was way worse on the front for him and he figured some stuff out on that back nine. So Jackie strapped between the weather setup and course conditions, is this the best test of golf we've seen since Oh Wait last month's US Open? I don't know what he was what he's angling for with the with the Oh Wait part, but it's this seems like a more complete test of the game of golf and not the modern game of golf, if that makes sense to me. Sure. Yeah, I mean, I think that, you know, I think Pinehurst was great and I think this is great for some of the same reasons and some very different reasons. It's a great,

you know, varieties, the varieties of spice of life. I don't think we oversold Trune, I guess, maybe is where I would take that question. And they were like, no, you know what, I'm looking at all the angles and looking at like all the different holes and the winds like I think this is going to be pretty great. It's gonna be a pretty proper test, and I think it was. I don't think there's any faking it out there today. Honey, Bunch, Fiend, what is the winning score gonna be? How much harder can they make this course? I think that's very two different questions,

because I think the RNA is gonna do nothing to make this course harder, honey. I think it is truly at the at the at the the whim of the gods I was gonna say is they like the the higher being you believe in I hope it gets tougher I'm like I said TC got me excited I don't know what do you guys think winning score I haven't really we haven't really talked about them slowing the greens down significantly, right?

I mean, you could see that on some of those putts where like guys were just struggling to get into the hole or woefully low or, you know, I don't know if that allowed them to put some pins in different spots, but like I think they were prepared for the worst on the wind and weather wise. And I think they slowed them down. I mean, they were like 10 or 10 and a half, right?

Which I guess is. Well, they slumbers on Wednesday said that the wind's not going and I think they slowed him down. I mean they were like 10 or 10 and a half right? Which I guess is well they slumbers on Wednesday said that the winds not gonna be up as much So they're gonna be a little faster for Thursday, but they didn't seem that way today I don't I didn't see the actual report on that which I the reason I bring that up is because I think slower greens Tron says this all the time, but like I think the slower greens actually like kind of work for this tournament I think it adds a an interesting variable where like guys are very clearly uncomfortable with it and like they are not good at hammering putts and it's just a very different style and another added variable.

So I guess all of that is to say like, yes, the wind might blow and it might get softer and it might rain and like, who knows what could happen with the weather. But I think that is one added variable that they can kind of flex up or down, right? Like you could convince me that making them faster makes it harder. And you convince me like leaving them slower makes it harder.

So I think that's kind of a fun lever. Uh, all right. Let's wrap with our, uh, foot joy moments of joy. Um, I'll go first Cody, if that helps at all, just because, uh, I kind of, I kind of blew mine earlier, but this is I'm honestly not making fun of Bryson with this. Like I'm not this was a true joy in terms of he was what the reason I woke up at 430 this morning, which I'm regretting was like to what I was like, I can't miss anything

that guy's gonna do. And I just having that guy in our lives and bringing us stuff like the fake physics lessons and the incalculable correction was just, it was perfect. Like he's somehow even doing the punchable stuff in a more likable way and it genuinely brought me joy today. And I really do, I'm fascinated watching him play golf. I still think the exact same of him as a person as I did a year ago and two years ago and three years ago, but you cannot deny the content machine. And that was my moment of joy today. Who goes next, Cody? Anyone. I'm able to pivot.

Sure. I will say this is kind of just a general shout out to Trune, I think, and a bit of a like, oh, the places you'll go. I think every time a tournament goes to one of these places, it's really fun to go on your phone and just be like, man, I wonder what kind of photos I have from when I was at that place. And solid, we got to go see that back in March and we got to stay at the Marine hotel, which is right there next to Trune. And that's just a very fond memory. I have, we got to sit down in that, that restaurant. We had a,

we had a great night and Cody, I don't know if you have that photo or not, but this is what was in my phone. This is clearly Tron. Like it looks like he's checking out Fleetwood's score from the day and Sally's getting in with his hitters at NTT data to see what we've got coming up for strokes gained open championship. But I really want to shout out what I really took away was the wallpaper on that ceiling was I think that's such a baller move.

People don't do it enough. I really appreciated that from the Marine Hotel. And I would encourage you if you have the right style home to investigate that as a potential option for yourself. It's a pretty baller lampshade, too, while we're here. Great interior decoration was so sick at that hotel. Guys, we're so old because we walked in there like, look how well decorated this place is. It's great.

It's great. And it's right next to the tea. I mean, any of those golf hotels that are just right on the course are just really, really. Yeah, I don't have a graphic necessarily with mine. I would just tell people, mine was kind of more in the moment with TC on the show earlier. It was a little bit Gary player, Sully, where you had asked Tron about Tommy and I feel like eight minutes later, we arrived somewhere and we, we covered a lot of ground.

I'm not sure where we went. I'm not sure where exactly we ended up. Tommy was in it at one point. Tommy was out of it. So I just love I love Tron just trying to do anything except for apologize for Tommy Fleetwood. That was my moment of joy today. Listen, shout out to foot joy for that. You're gonna see plenty of foot joys on TV this weekend. More than half the players in the field wearing foot joy shoes and gloves and many also choosing Footjoy outerwear as the condition shift. I don't know if you guys saw, but JT was wearing the new limited edition Harris Tweed Premier Series that launched on Footjoy.com this week. They've got a sick royal blue tartan heel pattern. You

can check them out on Footjoy.com if you haven't seen them already. D just showed them off right now. Those are awesome. Those showed up at my doorstep. These are so sick. They're awesome. They're such good shoes. Just going to grab. Yeah.

They are outrageous. It makes me want to go play golf. So shout out to our hitters at Footjoy for that. They are continuing to pound out some great stuff. Anything else you guys have from today? I just want to say Matt Fitzpatrick had a really good day. US Open champion. I don't know, come Sunday that might be a name.

It might not, but he played really well today. He was high on my big board for the US Open, Randy, and I played just kinda meh, but he was under the radar for me this week, and shame on me for that one. I gotta call this out, I think it's close to a war crime. The scorecards that they're putting on the broadcast with the pars being blue squares, it's unhinged,

it's ridiculous, every time it pops up, I'm just like, whoa, what a psycho scorecard here. And it's just, it's just pars. It's just not like that makes absolutely no sense what colors they're going for on this board. Golf has used the same kind of color scheme for as long as it's been around. As far as I know, we do not need to make, uh, you know, the, the pars blue squares. That's that's freaking me out.

Let it go on the website, on the web, on the open championship website too. They use like the neutral gray for, for bogeys. So I'm like, dude, that like, it's just, your eyes should go right to the bogeys and birdies, right? And I'm right. It's always the opposite. I'm always like, oh, it's not even like ours. If that was like their Navy open blue, like it is on the website, that looks great.

But the bra on the broadcast it is freaking me out and a lot of people agreed They're here rare that people agree with me on Twitter these days, but a lot of people agree with that I appreciate you speaking out on that one Just a couple of things to call out Brooks kept got a really good putting days and or had a good point a big tone also had a great putting day again Just checking on the sustainability models, but Ludwig lost 3.2 shots on the green today. He was a kind of a non-factor from the jump. Bryce and Tough Putting Day, Tommy and Rory also had

very, very weak days on the green. So if you're looking for some bounce backs or some guys you think are going to regress, but we'll see. We'll see. That is going to wrap us for today. I believe we will have live show Fridays probably sometime around the same time we were at 330 today probably will be live sometime around that around then on Friday, live on Saturday, live on Sunday, guys, I gotta admit, I'm pushing the alarm back tomorrow. I went too early today, didn't make it.

I just don't have- What time did you wake up? I woke up like 4.15. Yeah, I don't know. I thought I could do it. I thought I could power through it and I totally fell asleep. I told you guys this internal before we started,

but I didn't watch a single shot on TV today. I listened to the entire thing on the open radio. It's that good. I encourage everybody download the app, check out the radio folks. And that's not because we did a week of work with them last year for the AIG or context or because we did a week of work for Omaha Productions. Okay, it's because it's that good. And they're masters at your by tomorrow, you're going to be writing for the blue's because it's that good and they're masters at it. You're by tomorrow, you're going to be riding for the blue

squares because that's unhinged behavior right there. Like that is that's that's psycho behavior right there. I might not watch TV this week. I love it. I think that's a great block. I got the grass. Yeah, a bunch of stuff. I mean, it was amazing. Didn't I feel like I'm like probably more informed than you guys are. Dude, this is this is what I was saying during the John Deere. I I feel like I'm probably more informed than you guys are. It's great.

This is what I was saying during the John Deere. I feel like I am like, when I listen on the radio, they have more time to kill where they're constantly just injecting nuggets and here's what the lie is and here's what he's gotta worry about and here's where the wind is coming from. I end up learning way more on the radio than I do. With TV, it's just shot, shot, shot, shot, shot.

You just kinda of like get overwhelmed and and sort of, you know, turn into like a big bag of, you know, get on the couch. It's awful. But I'm wondering where that Yeah, that sentence is gonna go. And that one. Amsterdam takes from anyone that did watch on TV? Well, I'll damn I'll give a I don't sure if it's from anyone that did watch on TV. Well, II'll I'll I'll give

a I don't know if it's even damning with faint praise or just damning. I had it on and I nothing about the broadcast like grabbed my attention and I'm honestly Cody II'm going to listen to the radio tomorrow. I'll I'll probably have it on the TV, but yeah. There was nothing in the broadcast that was like,

holy shit, this is awesome. And nothing against Luke Donald, nothing against anybody. It just, I found it so mild. Yeah. Send a picture. If you're just like sitting in a recliner, listening to the radio tomorrow, I would love to see what your setup would be.

Yeah, yeah. I would love to see what your what your setup would be. Yeah, yeah. I had five feeds going today. And by far the worst feed is the broadcast like by far I did the you know, the multi view of all the feature groups. YouTube TV for that I use you sent that picture. Yes, sweet man. It's sick. And but I also just had the world feed going through the media site and everything and like, literally doing that just so I don't bitch on Twitter all day about the commercial load and everything. I think I was able to keep it like for every every event should send us like a feed like a feed without commercials just so we don't know if it was feature group coverage or something like that

But people are pining about tiger and it obviously upset a lot of people But I don't know if you guys caught that or not There wasn't an announcer that said something about tiger being on a lot of painkillers to deal with his pain I think they said like you can tell by his eyes. He's on a lot of painkillers is the specific context which I think is maybe where people were like You know, that's not totally your context to kind of inject which I will I'll probably take a backseat on the rest of that That conversation but that's what happened That the only thing I had to wonder was like

Does painkillers mean something different in like British parlance than it does in the US is like painkiller like a Tylenol, you know, over there? I don't know. That's the only it's the only benefit of the doubt there, I would say but don't know. I was the land in this plane. My bad. I would say it's all I would you know, one of the great joys of Twitter being kind of a

wasteland septic tank these days is that you can just sleep in until like six, seven, and then just like fast forward past the commercials. It was a great experience. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. Yeah. Yeah. Don't chase the tournament. Let it come to you. You know, it's the same thing I'd offer to any of these guys playing. Somebody else take over the NLU Twitter then? Because I'm ready. I'm ready to pass that on if that's the schedule. Some tweets, you know. I was gonna say, I think KVV needs an account now. Have him take it.

We're trying to give all sorts of free shit out though. God, you know what somebody just reminded me of it in the comments. I do have to shout out the first thing I saw when I opened my eyes this morning because I was trying to I've slept in until probably 6, 6 15. And I was like, I'm not going to check slack because I'm sure solid trons obviously over there. KVV is over there. I'm sure solid is already up.

I don't want to spoil anything. I don't want to know what happens. So I checked my email and the first email at the top of the board was just from Peacock. We are increasing prices. I was like, dude, I fucking hate this service so much. I forgot that I subscribe to it. $14 a month. I forgot that I even subscribed to it.

First of all, I hate having it. It never brings every time I have to open it, it pisses me off. And now it's just like, like you've got to watch it. And and we're increasing the prices was like, hell yeah, let's go. Let's go jump into the cauldron brother. The last last hole of speed, Scotty, having to flip over to peacock for the number one player in the world and not having that on on like, network television for Thursday afternoon is just such an incredible middle finger. I

you have to you honestly do got to get, you got to hand it to them at a certain point. I'm just like, you know, they've made, they've managed to make peacock like somewhat of a mainstream thing and almost like forcing you to have it. And it's a giant middle finger, but like, yeah, you just, what are you going to do? Ready to go somewhere else? You know what? Exactly. Yeah. All right. let's land this plane right there at Prestwick Airport. Thanks everybody for tuning in. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll be covering it live. Some of us on Twitter, some of us will be sleeping in. Everyone have a

great Thursday evening. Crack on. Cheers.