No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 882 - St. Jude Happy Hour: Kuchar, TPC Southwind, and the FedExCup Playoffs

Episode Date: August 14, 2024

Happy Hour is here! We chat about the news of the week, including Kuchar's conclusion at the Wyndham, who is on the bubble at the FedEx St. Jude Championship, some trivia, TPC Southwind, LIV at the Greenbrier, the US AM at Hazeltine, some news of the week, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Greetings, Solly, fired up to be here. Look, kink in the neck, playing a hurt today. But we're fired up to talk some playoffs. Hmm. Playoffs. Making fun of all those dad injuries I had. It's coming around. Not back yet. Just neck. I need to go to the chiropractor. I got my neck. I got everything in there. Guys, I'm good. I had another YouTube tab open somewhere amongst my 100 tabs.

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for playoff week. This playoff run I'm peach today enjoying it. That's good that's that's the pool pack I got Kiwi. Limited edition check it out high noon spirits.com to find it near you. We of course talked Matt Kuchar on Sunday night's show but it was left up to we didn't we didn't we I mean we didn't know what he was gonna finish that in the mean we didn't know what he was gonna finish that in the tournament didn't know if he's gonna stay at t12 what was gonna happen he wakes up Monday morning gets TIO relief from the rough over into the 10th fairway hits it up in front almost holds it makes his par is asked about it afterwards gives like I don't know four different explanations

none of which really made any sense. He said, I'm figuring no way Max is gonna finish out with a chance to win the tournament. I thought Max for sure had a chance to win. I thought no way in this situation do you hit this shot. You come back in the morning 100% of the time. So I said, well, Max will stop and kind of made it easy on him.

Just trying to do a good thing. That also doesn't make sense because when Max indicates that he's gonna finish out, maybe you should go finish out as well. I guess there's also, he said, had I been in the fairway with the normal shot, I probably would have attempted to finish, but I had just seen Max four putt the 16th hole.

If there was daylight on that green, does he four putt? I don't know. That was like before eight o'clock. It was, yeah. Like you played another hole and a half after that. Max is 29 years old, Matt. He's not like, you know, Nick Dunlap, who should still be in college. He also said something like, he was like, yeah, I was 820 when we got to 17T and they were, I went and checked the timestamps. He was hitting into the group ahead of him on 18T at 815.

So he is way off on that number. It just did not get any better the more he explained it. And taking TIO to get that, to make the par save was just like. That was kind of when I'm like, is this a simulation? TIO was good stuff. And look, as much as we fought about TIO on this, like that was, that looked like a freaking egregious one, man. The scoreboards behind trees I

didn't even see I couldn't see a perfect image but like that thing was not in his way of any shot actual actual necessary shot where like that's where rules official needs to enforce it and be like no we're not doing this man hit the shot we all want to go home I think the rules officially and oh Orlando uh Orlando pope was the one in the booth, but Ken Tackett was there on the ground. And I think the rules official should have the ability or the right to basically say, all right, you hit the shot and then if it interferes, we'll come back and we'll re hit that shot.

But that's like there needs to be a middle ground there, right? Instead of just, oh, you know what, On the off chance, one out of every thousand times that you get it all the way through those trees and it hits that scoreboard, cool. Like we can come back and replay that shot then. Agreed. So that's the conclusion we came to on one of the Xander thing that happened at the Wells Fargo too.

It was like, there needs to be some reform in some of this, right? I'm not gonna follow you guys all the way down to there should be no TIO ever, but that doesn't mean we can't improve upon this thing. Anyways, that's the end of that story, I guess, but still one of the most bizarre. It gave that tournament some life on Sunday night,

though that gave us something to talk about. Oh, I mean, the tournament was great anyway. Like even, you know, the finish was excellent. Aaron Rye kind of washed over with all the Kutcher stuff. And, you know, people were trying to white knight for Kutcher, saying that not that many people had to come back out or this or that. And it's like, you know what? I think Kutcher doesn't get the benefit of the doubt anymore, ever. Like, gee, we're not doing that. That's not who he is. He's a stain.

And he kind of represents everything that's wrong with the PGA Tour. Like all of the player run organization stuff. Like that's like Kutcher's the living embodiment of that. I don't know if I'll follow you down that one. I mean, the guy's earned it for many, many years. He's in terms of like earning his spot at the table and his right to be there and all that. Like, I don't know if he's not terms of like earning his spot at the table

and his right to be there and all that. Like, I don't know if he's not JJ Henry hanging on exemption wise. I don't know if you could misinterpret. I'm totally there, but just as far as like the mentalities out there on tour of like, you know, trying to gatekeep and trying to, you know, I don't know. The whole like, oh, I was just trying to look out for Max there thing is like, it's gross.

And then also like like there was some, there was just some chatter amongst some of the veterans that they were pissed about. They were pissed about the tour center amounts play 36 holes on Sunday being, you know, with how hot it was. And it's like, you're a golfer, you're walking around. It's like, this is what you do. What is the other option? Just Monday finish? Like, no, nobody wants a Monday finish for many reasons. Like, yeah, they can't control the weather. I mean, maybe you don't go to the hottest place.

One of the hottest places, you know, there's no cool place to play really in August, right? It's tough part of the calendar for everybody, but they got it in, it's over. We are on a TPC Southwind. I was a little surprised. Speaking of hot, the swamp ass invitational. We'll get to some of that. You know, a golf course that I guess I when I pulled up, you

know, the chart from Data Golf that we always love to look at of the course fit and all that. I was expecting to see more of a driving accuracy reward on this. Really, it's more so from a typical PGA Tour course. It is less driving distance influence but it doesn't necessarily mean a trade-off in driving accuracy meaning basically it's saying like Brendan you know Brendan Todd either gets like the biggest boost or the biggest hit depending on the length of the course he gets the biggest boost on Data Golf this week because it is not a golf course that requires the

farther distance and Rory gets the biggest hit in his skill because of the the course adjustment but I'd say and I if I took one example like what do I think of when I think of this course I think of the 18th hole where they that tee shot you have the lake kind of dogleg left you got water kind of angling with the hole on the left and some of these guys can't hit drive most these guys can't hit driver there and they have to kind of rope a three-wooded and it's a nervy shot and it feels like a good summation of like what you just explained sally yeah it asks specific questions it's a i'd say this is a above average pga tour course like it's not it's not special it's not

great it's not really good it's just it's it's it meets the it's satisfactory. That's that's the we should criteria we should come up with a scale we need like our own like, you know, five levels of PGA tour courses, we might need to that might be a podcast episode. Like you got to hit shots here, right? You got to hit greens. You know, no wonder Tommy almost won here last year. It kind of goes for all the courses, right? Right, I mean, he's just a proper player, right?

Almost won a lot of them. I know TC's gonna push back on me here, but it feels a little bit like the member guest analogy we made during the PGA championship. It's like, yeah, I'm not here to see the course. I'm here to see the top 70 duke it out. It's kind of just a, I don't know, Mendoza line venue for this

tournament and that's fine. It's about the horses on the course. I will say this iteration of now the top 50 getting into signature events gives this week a little extra boost than it's had in the past. I never really cared that much who made it like to the BMW or into the top 50. It was kind of like an arbitrary, these 20 guys get cut, but it's also a, yeah, you're getting into eight other events next year with this top 50. Berth is like has me, this is more exciting to me to watch that bubble line than it is the top 70

to get into the playoffs, right? So that's kind of a first real full season go round of having that on the line this week, which listen, it's complicated. You want to take us to FedEx Cup standings points? You did a little research on this, Neil? Yeah, this is kind of my annual like day week where I'm like, all right, how does this work again?

Okay, so we made it to the playoffs, right? Obviously Scotty's like 3000 points ahead of everybody. You always see the top 10, they flash the leaderboard every week. And so you kind of understand who's up there. But so we're 70 players this week, you know, they flash the leaderboard every week. And so you kind of understand who's up there. But so we're 70 players this week, 50 spots, and then you got to go dig in. And it's, I mean, it's buried at the bottom of the PGA tour overview page, because they always tell you how much you get for winning. But this week is when they would do themselves a lot of favors. If they started talking

about like, how many points do you get for 10th, for 20th? And you got to dig pretty far down. I mean, the best source, which sucks is Wikipedia. Like even like golf week, golf digest, they're all talking about how many points the winner gets and compared to a signature event. So the way it works is this week is 2000 FedEx Cup points. So triple signature event is 700 points. I think major 750 regular tour events, 500 that's for the winner. And then an opposite field event is 300. So that's what you always get as far as a breakdown. So I started digging in, even on their website, they only show you up until what numbers at 1416. So I dug in a little bit. It's pretty woeful. Like the fact that they've, that's what I mean. Because the whole storyline is

this, this, you know, because the whole storyline is this, 20 guys are out after this week. So I want to know these guys on the bubble line, which I got a few notes on, it's like, how many points are they going to get? What's the, again, to use the baseball term, the Mendoza line of, all right, if you get in the top 20, that's a lot of points. That's going to do something for you or top 10. So, 2000 for the winner, 1200 for second, 760 for third, 540 for fourth, 440 for fifth, and then 300 for 10th, 180 for 20th. So that's still a pretty serious amount of points there. And then like the money, the points combine, I combine, I believe if you tie like it, you know, a T if two guys tie for T3, they take the third and the fourth points and split

them equally. But interesting thing, because, you know, as you guys know, from our slack, like if if two example, like if somebody wins, someone comes in second, like Bryson did at the PGA, he doesn't get those 400 points. They don't fall to the third place guy. They just go away. So Victor Hovland came in third. He got 350 at the PGA championship. And same thing with Nick Dunlap. Doesn't get points for the AMX challenge because he's an amateur. But Christian Bezeidenhout came in second. He only got 300 points. He did not get the full 500. So I thought that was interesting too. I agree with that, but it was kind of, it's another little, like there's all these little edge cases

of everything where you gotta kind of uncover stuff. So that's kind of the, the breakdown. Do you guys want me to give you a couple of, a couple of just like 50, like cut line watch things that I was looking at? I think we've got some images there. The data golf also, like I was looking for like, Hey, how will, the data golf also like I was looking for like Hey, how will how can things move? I don't really know definitely not from the PJ tour website but they of course have a model and data golf that shows percentage chances of You know the people that are around that cut line like what the you know The guys in green there on this image that you're seeing here in that column

I think see who Kim there is up at the top He's like locked in cannot possibly get a Keegan's the top spot there that that is at risk. But I mean, obviously the farther up in the standings, the more likely in a simulation points wise you are to make it all the way through. But go ahead. Yeah. Well, a few things I thought were interesting Jake nap, he's right on the bubble at 50. There's they he Harris English

and Nick Taylor who are 51 and 52 are all at 9 69.4.3. Like there's separated by tenths of a point. So we got it. We got a log jam there before it starts to break up again. He's got a good record here and a bad back right now. He withdrew last week. Who's that? He the flusher.

Cause that's Harris English. Yeah. week. Who's that? H.E. The flusher. Oh, Harris English. Victor Hovland at 57, not a name I expected to see outside this cut line. Like I said, his best finish was at Valhalla at 350 FedEx points there. Interesting. I remember he three-putted at 18th. I was looking like if Bryson doesn't chip in and he doesn't three-putt, like I know that that's two variables, but he gets another 25 points, that puts him inside the top 50. And so that's the kind of stuff that I never have a good barometer for what shots really move the needle. You know what I mean? But that would be an example of what I wish the tour and the telecast could do a better job

of telling the story of like, oh, that's, you know, this putt is for 50 points or 10 points. You know, nobody understands it and they change the points change every event, right? Like the points, the points are different every event. So there's no consistency. And then they re they redo it or they make new shit up. And my thing would be like, the majors don't count for enough points. The majors and the signature events are, other than the winner getting 50 extra points for the majors and the players, there's no added benefit. That's all flattened out right there. And there's just all these cases.

I've been digging into it this week. You know, I know you're a big Cory Connors guy, Neil. Of course. Cory Connors, he's just fed on 10th through 25th this year in signature events. And there's just outsized reward for that. So I think the signature event point distribution doesn't really, it's not crazy out of scale at the top or at the very bottom, but it is crazy out of scale in that middle part where it doesn't match up with the true strokes gained, Solly, or what they're getting in OWGR, which match up with one another. It's just a weird year too where Scotty and Xander are so far ahead of everybody.

I think Xander's 1,500 points ahead of Rory, who's the next closest, and Scottie's miles ahead of him. So they're hoovering up a bunch of points, but it still took more points to make the top 70 than it has in years past. So I think it's like the tops, I think the solid, as you mentioned before, the system,, Tyler, the creator's system kind of worked as far as like, hey, 18 guys cycled out or whatever. But a little bit of the concern is like how that happened. Like the how, not the what kind of thing. And it seems like guys are getting over indexed

or over rewarded for relatively solid finishes in these, in the Memorial or in Wells Fargo, that sort of thing, or Truist now, whatever. Anyway. Well, the other interesting, I mean, I think they do themselves some favors and I'm sure there's math behind this. But it's random, it's like 540 for fourth place, 440. And then it's 300. The numbers are a little like, and then they don't, like I said earlier, like if Bryson comes in second, he doesn't get that 400 points for the PGA. It's not like money where they then give it, like, it's like, well, you just made it up. You

just disregarded those 400 points. It's not like they were all adding up to some total purse. So all of it, it's like, man, you could probably simplify this and make it a little easier to understand. But another, like you, I was trying to come up with a couple of use cases for my own benefit. Another one, Jordan Spieth, 63rd right now. Not a great, not a great year for Jordan. He has 781 points and Jake Knapp is at 969. So let's say, you know, 200. So what is that? He's got to finish 10th place, gets him 300. So if he gets top 10 this week, you know, good chance,

but obviously like, okay, who's going to climb above them, right? So I know it's complicated because you got a lot of variables involved, but just for your, as a viewer, like if I'm going to buy into this FedEx cup stuff, I just don't have any understanding of how guys are going to leapfrog on the board. And you know what? They don't pay me to figure that

out. But that would be a good use of time at the PGA Tour to help me, someone who watches every freaking week, understand this better. But so you know what? Well, you know what I'm hearing? Honestly, Neil, is a really strong argument for why they do the Tour Championship the way they do it. Hey, here's the staggered, no more math, here's what we got, whatever you finished. No wonder Scotty thinks it's silly. Yeah, exactly. The advantage that he's created,

I think they should almost give him the requisite, number of strokes that would resemble. He should get some mulligans at the Tour Championship. Yeah. He should get some, yeah. He should get some mulligans. He should get some string for some missed putts or something like that, like for how far up ahead he is.

But like, that's, I've honestly kind of ridden pretty strong for the handicap final event because of exactly what you're saying of like, exactly, we could, why don't we, if we have it ready, Cody, why don't we play, go ahead and play Scotty's clip here. We can react to a little bit of this because I think I don't kick off that part of the conversation Last few years, I think it's silly. I mean you can't call it a season-long race and have it come down to one tournament I mean

Hypothetically we get to Eastlake and my neck flares up and it doesn't heal the way it did at the players I finished 30th in the FedEx Cup because I had to withdraw from last tournament Does that really the season-long race? No, I mean, it is what it is. It's a fun tournament. I don't really consider it the season-long race, like I think is the way it's called. But I mean, you gotta figure out a way to strike a balance

between it being a good TV product and it still being our season-long race. And right now, I don't know exactly how the ratings are or anything like that but I know for a fact you can't quite call it the season-long race when it comes down to one stroke play tournament on the same golf course each year. It's kind of a pick your poison thing. You know, I mean you could also go to the Tour Championship and you'd pull a VJ and just have to show up and make sure he's stayed upright for four days to win it. Yeah, which on the flip side, that's not good either.

You know, people, it would be great for me. But those aren't the rules. And so at the end of the day, I try not to think too much about the results of tournaments and I'm not gonna look back on my season really any differently. If I don't win East Lake, I'm gonna show up there, do my best.

And I think I've been number one the last two years going into the tournament. You know, one that would in 2022, having a really great chance to win and wasn't able to pull it off. And then last year just really just playing poorly pretty much the entire week. So yeah, I mean, that's, I don't, we do this every year. This is like Lily 10 straight years, probably where we've again, it's an inefficient, how do we do this every year. This is like literally 10 straight years, probably where we've come upon. Again, it's inefficient. How do we fix it? Me trying to figure it out.

How do we fix it? It's- I mean, hey, Scottie sounds like he's a big Comcast tour, business tour, top 10 guy, big fan of that. You know, reward me based on my, my, you know, which I think he got what? Like a- 8 million. $8 million bonus, million dollar bonus on Monday morning after Cooch holdout for all that. And then I would be curious to know what Scotty would think if they did match play instead,

or if they did like a match play bracket. Because he did noticeably say, hey, I don't think it's a 72-hole stroke play event. Got a problem with that. The other thing I think would be, like, Scottie probably doesn't like the Super Bowl, right? You know, you got the undefeated Patriots coming in and getting beat by Eli Manning and the Giants. Like, you know.

Just play the simulation. We don't need to actually play the games. We just can do the simulation. Anyways, I got some trivia that I want to get. We got a few other things we want to get through. Do you have something else, Neil? No, I'm just, I agree with them. Well, two things there. One, I don't think we call it enough. Scotty has a great laugh. He's got a nice cackle. And I just, it's almost like a Kawhi Leonard like laugh where it's like, whoa, it kind of surprises you, you know?

So I just wanted to throw that out. I got that out of that video. And two, it's I agree, I agree with everything you said and I don't have the answer. So I think you're, you're right. So every year we come to this, we'll do it, we'll do it each the next six pods, probably two. Well, I guess where I'm going with that is I truly want to care about the points. Like I like the idea of a season long race and I, I w and I want to like watch the bubble. Like that to me sounds very like appealing. It's just, it doesn't translate. I can't comprehend it. It's an issue for the tour and it's an issue for me as a viewer.

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isn't the same without row back TC is showing off the Florida man Polo that he's got rocking there. DC and I just planned out an order, Robak order for the NLU Pro Shop. We're getting ahead of things. All right. I got trivia prepared for you guys and I have to warn you, this is going to infuriate you. It's obnoxious trivia. All right. You're going gonna be so mad at all of it, but that's up. And of course we're gonna start this out with past champ or not of the FedEx St. Jude Championship. Are you ready?

Okay, yes. Past champ or not, Daniel Berger. Yes. Yes. No, Daniel Berger won the St. Jude Classic. Oh, I knew you were going to do semantics. I almost said before that, like, all right, are we counting? What are you doing?

He won the same. It's the different tournament. I love it. St. Jude Classic. Did the Barclays get, like, lumped into this? Oh, yeah. That's what Northern Trust. We're going to keep going.

Is this technically the Northern Trust? Like if we're looking at a tournament lineage, this is we are the the Barclays to the Northern Trust to now the FedEx St. Jude Championship. The old tournament TPC Southwind was the St. Jude Classic and Daniel Berger indeed won that twice. So next up Brooks Koepka. twice. So next up, Brooks Koepka. I got my head all scrambled. Yes.

No, he won the 2019 WGC FedEx St. Jude Invitational, which is also a different tournament that was held at this course. In 2019, he won that. That used to be the WGC Bridgestone. So now you're, it're it's just your Braids gonna have to really work on these next few. Okay, Dustin Johnson Yes. Yes. Not only has he won this tournament three times. He also won the St. Jude Classic twice So that was the easiest one that you're gonna get Tony Fee now He beat Cam Smith. Yes, he won the Northern Draft.

That's all he hangs his hat on. Tony Finau has won this tournament. Justin Thomas. Oh, I want to say yes. No, I feel like he won the Deutsche Bank. I'm going to say yes. TC? No. TC? No.

TC is correct. He won the 2020 WGC FedEx St. Jude Invitational, which was the WGC version of this, which was the Bridgestone. Okay. Tiger Woods. No. No, I don't think he won a Barclays.

Never won one. You're exactly correct. Bryson. No, I don't know, but I'm gonna say yes. I'm gonna say yes. Yes, he did. He beat to big tone by four. Justin Rose.

Here comes a drizzle. No. No. He did not win this one. Heath Slocum. Yes. I know he did. Okay, I'm gonna ride with TC.

He did, he did. Luke Donald. Yes. Yeah. No, he did not. That was a random one. David Thoms. I feel like- Yes. Yeah. No, he did not. That's a random one. David Toms. I feel like I mean now now we're just doing silly

stuff. We got three more. David Toms won a FedEx Cup event, but not this one. He did not win this one. He did win the uh Saint Jude Classic. Yeah. VJ. VJ. My mind's in a pretzel. I'm gonna say no. No contest. But he did win eight times one year, so maybe yes. VJ's won this tournament four times.

Last one, Abe answer. Yes. No, because they changed it to the. No. The answer is no, he won the FedEx St. Jude Jude invitational, the WGC version. That is it. It's like, it's like, what are the most egregious examples of like a pro sports franchise moving? Yeah. And then that person being like, oh my God, this is like

legendary Baltimore Raven, you know, Jim Brown or something. I was, I think there's like, I would say, I mean, I don't want to be like, yeah, but I'm going to be like, the tour abuses FedEx. Like they have done so much for the PGA tour and it's just like, oh, hey, we need to get us out of a jam over here. It's like, they're always bailing them out of jail. You know, they're like the phone call they make like, hey, why don't you take over this one just for a couple of years? And they just- Denny Cash's phone's blowing up. For sure, man. Denny Cash loves the kids though too. They support the St. Jude's. It's a hospital. I saw the Space gave a very nice donation this week from their foundation to that. Random aside, I know you're a big business

breakdowns guy. I read this. I think I listened to the business breakdown on FedEx. And then I read a big article about how they just reorganized their air network in the last month or two because they lost the USPS contract. Fascinating. I would highly recommend digging into that if you're into that sort of thing. I don't know how the world works. A few other questions. You've already answered one of these. What was Dustin Johnson's margin of victory at this tournament in 2020?

I'll give you a hint. It was at TPC Boston. And I don't know why I don't remember this. Was this like eight or nine shots? He won by 11. Yeah. I don't remember this. And I guess he won the Masters.

Yeah, he won the Masters a few months later after this. But yeah, won by 11 in 2020. Lucas Glover won this last year in a playoff over. Sepp Straka. No, Straka. I've gone here before. Zala Torres beat Straka. Tommy was I don't remember.

I want to. I want to remember, but I don't remember. It was any McCarthy. It was Patrick Cantlay. I don't remember this. I want to remember, but I don't remember. It was any McCarthy. It was Patrick Cantlay. I don't remember this, uh, patent hat either, but Neil does have some memories I think, uh, from last year. Uh, I do. Uh, I flashed a couple of images up here. Uh, once, once Cody gets through the archive, but God, the swamp ass invitational. I mean, I just, like I big Lucas Glover guy, but, and I actually had this issue playing golf a week ago. I was wearing khaki shorts. It was like, I should not have worn these shorts. And you know, the khaki color just doesn't, doesn't do well

this time of year, especially in the Memphis area. But my favorite part was I need to put this into practice. Lucas Glover throwing his hands in the Yeti cooler on each tee box, just to, just to, just to cool things down, cool down the nervous system. That's a veteran move right there. So I was doing some research before this pod and I was like, God, I totally forgot about all these images. His belt's discolored in different spots. You guys already got the Dzel Tor's beat Sepp Straka. You already got Tony Fiena. So three straight years has been a playoff in this event is what I was going for there, even though one of those was. You guys already got the Dzel tors beat sep straka. You already got Tony Fee now. So three straight years There's been a playoff in this event is what I was going for there

Even though one of those was and I think again 18 is a good playoff hole. Yeah, right It's it's a nervy tee shot and you know, they put that pin in the back left It's everybody kind of I can't remember if it's a under read or over read that putt But it's kind of a weird putt Everyone's just kind of throws their hands up when that birdie putt doesn't go in. Last one. There's a good par five down the stretch. There's some other like real golf shots. Last question.

The other tournament, not this one, but the St. Jude Classic changed its name in 2009 to the St. Jude Classic. That's when it became the St. Jude Classic. FedEx gets involved later, blah, blah, blah. But the two years prior to that, so in 2009, it changed to the St. Jude Classic. It had a different name for the two years prior to that. So in 2009, it changed to the St. Jude Classic. It had a different name for the two years prior to that.

Who was the sponsor of that and why did they change it? I'm guessing they went out of business. In a big way. Enron? No, that's too late. MCI, WorldCom, Lehman Brothers. Stanford Financial Group, which determined to be a Ponzi scheme.

But it's just very funny reading that profile. Yeah, it changed because, yeah, this part of it was a Ponzi scheme. Bit of a Dean and DeLuca special there. What'd you do? And then VJ left their logo on his shirt even after they got outed for running a Ponzi scheme for the rest of the season.

Incredible. That might go into our VJ deep dive. Anyway, we'll get some pics here in a second. We got a US amateur is going on right now at Hazel Teen. TC is pumped about that, huh? It's just like, like the whole thing about the US, and they're having a good, good courses in the next few years. Olympic next year, I think they go to Marion Oak Hill after that. It's like, there's some really good courses in, you know, that we're, that we're getting into here. Why would you ever have this tournament Hazel team?

Like you don't need room for hospitality or build out or massive spectator experience or anything like that. And the setup this week just looks like 7,600 yards, just awful rough everywhere. Just not like exciting, artful, interesting golf at all. And it just kind of, I don't know, it just kind of randomizes things and I don't like it, Solly. I can't push back on any of that. They've done such a good job with this tournament

over the last several years and really made it interesting places, both men's and women's side. I bet they'll get a good turnout though. Yeah. Up in the Twin Cities, like that's a, you know, I feel like a good sports watching. People like violently summer up there, like any excuse to be outside, you know,

it's just vicious summering. 14 of the top 20 in the amateur rankings made it through to match play that includes new world number one Luke Clanton who just passed Gordon Sargent. Gordon did make it through to match play but was beaten today four and three by Tiger Christiansen, not the not the other Tiger for the record. I think the Sarge is having some trouble chipping right now. I hate hearing that.

What the word on the ground is, which is extra concerning, because this is up north on- Easy grass. On the easy stuff. Easy grass, yeah. Clanton advanced over Dylan McDermott. Jimmy Ellis from down here in Atlantic Beach.

I guess he just moved down here, TC. Is this the land man guy? Like the guy that's like a like a I don't even know. What does a land man do? It's oil like oil and gas like wildcat or they go and hunt down mineral rights from people. Bunky's gonna get so Cody's trying to get in that game. Yeah yeah Cody can you explain it to us? Cody do you still own your mineral rights on your house? Cody, can you explain it to us? Cody, do you still own your mineral rights on your house? Hell yeah, man. What do you guys need to know?

You own property rights and your mineral rights in Texas, man. Fuck yeah, I do. Come on. You wanna hang on to both if you can. But the land man, the wildcats come knocking on your door, TC. I'm trying to find more about Jimmy Ellis for you, but he is currently hold on he's currently one up through nine over Ethan fang from Plano a lot of Texas represented here in

the old match play portion guys TC we talked about this tried to get everybody pumped up there's a massive playoff to get into match play it was like 14 for 11 hate to say that somebody that we've grown caught pretty fond of Luke Colton. Colton. I always miss him and clan together. Luke Colton missed out this morning, ended up going bogey bogey in that playoff, but looks like a good match play bracket. And then Preston Summerhaze. He was up. He was two up through 13 this afternoon and lost two down He was two up through 13 this afternoon and lost two down to, what was the kid's name, Jackson? He Jackson Buchanan.

Jackson Buchanan. Sounds like he fought in the Revolutionary War or one of the other wars. Hell yeah. Might have been more, that sounds like War of 1812 to me. I do wanna give a shout out to Dante Grappppuso who won the MGA AM, the med am and he was rocking a no laying up towel on his bag. I just stumbled across that on the MGA Instagram because I am an MGA member. And so yeah, shout out to him. He qualified through

Somerset Hills in the, in the med am. And actually, Sally, your guy, Richard, really a former red professional hitter, professional hitter, two sons in the field this week. Really? Yeah. I think both of them missed the cut, but no less impressive. One other thing that I'm monitoring is if Luke Clanton is going to take over the country music sensation title from Eric Cole. That's that's another one. You know, Eric Cole on the bubble this week, he's, uh, what?

54th right now. So he's right there on that, on that cut line for the BMW. So of course slump for, for the, for the country music sensation this season, sophomore albums always tough, but yeah, it's tough, man. It's tough to get that magic back. Would Clanton be in the top 50 if he was allowed to get points? I mean, he would be be up there with some of his climbing. I think Clinton too, he's got a, I think that's the name of his new single too. He'd be climbing.

Clinton's, you know, I think he's got more upside than being a country music sensation. He could be a country music superstar, legend, hall of famer, all those things. I didn't realize Eric Coldish, your 27 events played 18 cuts, nine missed, 18 made cuts, nine missed. Not, not good. Bad album. Yeah. Yeah.

We that's, that's not what we want to see. Um, and then it, well, it well, you mentioned Nick Dunlap, so he doesn't get the points for AMEX. He got 300 for the Barracuda. His other 18 events, he had just under 400 total points. So he's 67th right now on the FedEx Cup standings. So two wins this year though, and just a lot of nothing in between.

And it's not that he should be in college. Like he literally was in college in this season. Like he was in college and left. It's still kind of ridiculous. It's Florida state. So, you know, we got to, True. College is a relative term.

Talking about the Noles. What are you talking about? He went to Alabama. He went to Alabama. Yeah, I was like, he's Florida state. Are we talking about Clinton or Dunlap? Oh, I was talking about? He went to Alabama. He went to Alabama, yeah. I was like, he's Florida State. Are you talking about, are we talking about Clinton or Dunlap? I was talking about Dunlap. Yeah, I was thinking that, I was like, I think he went to Alabama.

I don't follow college golf enough to chime in on that. The highlight of the event of the week, according to TC, the tournament of the week, what he's got, he's absolutely busting about. Can't stop talking about it. Liv Greenbrier, TC, what's got you so amped for this? It's a familiar place. I like the golf course, man. I've always liked watching tournaments on this golf course. But yeah, just like just a solid, you know, solid place to watch golf, you're gonna have Cody's got a big gym justice up there. Actually, that's Sally's guy, the guy from, uh, the place might get foreclosed upon, uh, you know, it's or, or get, get auctioned off. Yostar should just buy it. Uh, it's, you know, I guess they've paired all of the teams together or, you

know, the majority of the teams together. So like, you know, the cliques are all playing together or three of the four cliques are playing together. Pat Perez, Pat Reed, and somebody else from the Aces are playing together. There's just an outrageous whole thing. It's a perfect setup for Blandy. I'm absolutely buzzing for it. T.C., what was the, when Clique's Instagram was celebrating, he's had six straight top 14 finishes? Oh, I mean, I think he's had more than that across the worldwide tours at this point. So yeah, I think it was six straight back in, you know, back in May. What I really wanted this week, haven't got it yet, still holding out hope, is just some live content

of the squad touring the presidential bunker at the Greenbrier. Exactly. Getting down in the tunnels, you know, just getting some history in. Is that an open tour? I feel like a few of those guys would be history buffs.

Yeah, I've done it, yeah. Yeah, well, that's why I asked you, because this is like, you know, your kin, this is where you guys your fallout shelter was that for sure get some fly fishing content from some of these guys like it's There are no field doing to Falconry. There's a casino and you don't want jacket to the casino anymore. And Phil wouldn't feel doing those weird ads for this place. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, he's been a long Phil, uh, who, uh, Boba used to be a gay big guy there. I think, uh, Mr. Player was a, uh, an emeritus action going on. It's funny, man. I don't, I don't know what you mean. I actually need to put, I need to get to the green brown. I say that all the time. And you know what TC I do love, this used to be a TPC course, right? Yeah, that's like they see old white. Yeah, they took they brought it in

It was old white. I know you love shit that's named old white But also like it kind of makes me sad because I know ZB used to ball out here all the time like kind of perfect For for somebody with his game I remember a couple years ago They got that horrible storm and there was really like chunks of sod just floating everywhere and they put that thing together there was literally like chunks of sod just floating everywhere and they put that thing together. Oh, the camp's the tournament. Yeah, it was fun. I'm a massive fan of like adult summer camp places. You know, like TC, we went to Bedford Springs last year. Yeah. It's like archery, riflery, like going on a horse ride. Hell yeah, man. Let's do it all.

And then, you know, if you guys remember, I think Jim Justice allegedly stopped paying the bills for the tournament. So then like the tour took it away from him. That one year he was handing out all the And you know, if you guys remember, I think Jim Justice allegedly stopped paying the bills for the tournament. So then like the tour took it away from him. That one year he was handing out all the cash to people after ACES and stuff. People loved that event. He died last year, unfortunately, when they had it there.

Not at the event. We don't wanna spread any bad rumors. He died after the event, but he was on site. The people loved that event. I mean, there was always concerts and stuff. It was kind of like a... It was like a... Sounds like a live event, man. Guys would go get loaded in the... No, Liv invented that. Yeah, they invented a whole different thing after the PGA tour. Yeah, it's not the same thing at all, Cody. I want to see to see like a full on somebody who sees to follow Pat Perez around with a GoPro

for the week. Just like show us what he does all week at the Greenbrier. Well, here's what I got. Channel if if like a high school like JV match, if they were like, hey, we're going to like group all of the teams together, they'd be like, no, there's too much at stake here. Like we need to have people on opposite teams playing together. And with $20 million on the line, 25, I don't forget, yeah, 25 with the team stuff, they're just gonna let the teams all play together.

Like I know there's not active cheating going on, but backstopping, club advice, all the teams playing together is a kind of a weird thing. Brooke's there, intentionally, Pat Reed there. Well, you got the two, three and four guys are playing together. All the captains still are grouped with fellow captains. And I know it's weird to look at it like that,

but doesn't this just make it like more marquee groups? I know every group is supposed to be a marquee group, but if you have all the captains, I mean, that's more tee times than having, you know, Wacow paired with like some Blandy and some other schmuck out there. Wow. Is this the one that-

Holy shit. Come on. TC. Wow. I'm saying he's a solid two-man. I mean, the fact that he's not even the captain is crazy. Is this the one that Bryson shot 58 or 59 at? 58.

Hell yeah. Was it 58? Yeah, you guys never tweeted about it either. Shame on you. I mean maybe- The scoring average was 66. I know, like it's, and like, you know, Waco's won here before, I think.

Like it's kind of a fascinating event to me because I have, there's context. I'm still like, processing TPC old white. People do on a nose for me. Just a sick course it is You know the pros eat it alive like Stuart Appleby shot 59 here like the year it opened I think finishing on par threes fun to take a super Cavalier drop here he He He hit up yet

it's he hit a ball OB and like lost it on a rules official that I've ruled it OB if I remember right. Something about that. I thought it was, I was like the origin of where did it cross Twitter. I knew there's some rules thing happened with Tiger here. Could you imagine hanging out with the Greenbrier with Tiger like, hey, would we go get some trapping boys?

We got to get, we got skeet time later this afternoon. No, he's in that casino tiger jamming down there. Oh, you got fishing going on. God, you must be. They probably have paintball. He's like, hey, let's go do some tactical paintball. Guys, I brought my face mask. You're gonna use off the rack?

Let's get to our fan duel plays of the week. We're gonna go around the horn. Any one pick, one single pick. I'm sure all of you adhere to that rule that we have every single week where you get one pick. TC, you're up first. What is your one single pick for the week? Yeah, Sali or Cody, you can flash it up

there on the screen. These are bets, plural. First of all, we got the DP World Tour. We got them in the Czech Republic. Big Sammy Valimacky, first round leader. They're playing a new course this year. Totally unfamiliar with it. It looks sweet.

It's going to put more. Yeah, it's a Kyle Phillips design. It looks great because the other one was not good. This is the D plus D real check masters, which sounds like a porn site. I got Rose to win at Dunn Donald for the ladies Scottish this week. That's not a real links course kind of reminds me of Liberty National. And then I you know, Sally, I got a parlay. I got Tom, Tim in a parlay for a top 10. I feel like this place suits his skill set.

Ludwig, Tommy and Victor all the top 20, again, premium iron players. And then I even added in, I'm lobbying the traders over at FanDuel. They said they're working on this for me. A Blandy top 14 ties special market for me in future weeks. But for this week, he said they couldn't get it done. So I'm going to do Blandy top 10 play plus 230. I will ride with you on a top 14 for Blandy any day. Neil, what do you got?

I just want to know what D plus D does. Oh, no. Do not Google that. Not on a work computer. Checkmasters. OK. Let me collect my stuff. I totally wrecked me. OK. So in honor of the swamp ass invitational, and a guy that's been trending well, and he seems to be a microwave man,

I'm going with Billy Ho for a top 10 plus 270 Florida gator, knows his way around a swamp. Top 10 in ties. Top 10 ties, yes. And yeah, open championship, played well, played well. Windham. So yeah, I feel like Billy Ho's trending pretty well. Also a FedEx Cup champion.

How about that? I am going with a premium iron player, field of only 70 guys. He's always competitive, never really wins it, but Russell Henley is plus 220, including ties for a top 10. And it just feels like a Russell Henley golf course. He finished in the top 10 last year.

I think he was, what was he? Somewhere eighth place, I think last year. Missed the cut the year before. He was T6 last year, missed the cut the year before, but I like Russell Henley this week. Russell Henley continues to be like, man, if I could just trade places with somebody on tour, it's him.

He's the new Charles Howell, but probably better. My lawn guys are here. Right on time. Around the horn a little bit on some news. Hideki Matsuyama got robbed and his caddy got especially robbed. You can obviously read this graphic here for all the updates. I don't need to need to provide any details here, but he has made it there. I guess his caddy and coach had to go back to Japan because they got their passports robbed.

I literally just saw this as we were getting ready to go on the air, so I don't have all the details, but I think Cody has all the details. Yeah, got robbed. They're transitioning through London, I believe. I don't know, it doesn't have anything in here, like if it was a pickpocket or mugging or any crazy situation.

They basically just got their stuff taken away from him. So his caddy is back in Japan already. They're expediting passports with hope that he's going to be back in time for tour championship but that's like a very high probability it's not going to happen. But he has a backup caddy who he's used earlier this spring. And you know, he's just kind of bummed about it. That's all I said. They said he did not lose his bronze medal in the robbery, but I'm keen to hear some more details of this. This sounds not great.

The PGA tour schedule is out. My goodness, we don't have time to break down all the changes on this one. It is a massive shake up, you know, all these disruptors that have come in into the PGA tour. I'm sure you can see in this graphic really well exactly what the schedule looks like next year. But just reminded me of that guy that the grandpa that gets the red shirt for Christmas and he already has the red shirt is what the new schedule looks like. So I mean, it's just

they tweeted this out. I think there's 25 different fonts going on here. They got some things wrong. I guess they deleted this tweet already today. It's like they released the schedule annually and they somehow managed to mess it up every year. But it's just, I don't know, I just have a problem with like, can we just get rid of these opposite field events? Like at least just do something that changes things up. Is that the bone you got to pick? I mean, I got all sorts of bones, but there's just, yeah, there's just a lack of any sort of creativity.

Being told that 2026 is going to be radically different. But I mean, Sally, I'm curious to get your take. I know you're a big opening drive guy. They seem to keep be, you know, just pumping that one after the last couple of years, the opening drive, which is Century and Sony. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's my, you know, I've got opening drive t-shirts. I got them in four different colors. I'm such a big fan of that stretch. So we knew it was where's it was live under par. God, I miss that era. I mean, we knew it was gonna look similar. I didn't know it was gonna look like the exact same other than I mean,

Memorial moves back to two weeks in front of us open and RBC is back in the spot in between it. They did announce today that RBC has re up for one year for both the Heritage and the and the Canadian Open but It is like, you know part a big part of the reason I want to do that sponsorship pod that came out last week hopefully people got a chance to listen to it if you haven't I would recommend going back and listen to it from last Tuesday of just like Man, it I knew a lot of this stuff but kind of putting it all in one place Was just like, yeah, this is why all of this stuff that pisses us off and annoys fans,

like these are the reasons why decisions get made. And it just crystallized how stuck in the way they do things. The PGA Tour is and it's not if it I honestly, I'd be surprised if it looked radically different next year. TC, I know you said allegedly it's going to I just would be surprised. Radically different would be like four different tournaments. Sure. Yeah. One that jumps out at me is RBC Heritage, still a signature event and RBC Canadian Open. I thought so their deal's up after 2025 because they were making some noise around the Canadian Open this year. RBC was like, we need to

see some changes. They extended today the announced today they extended through next year. So it's a one year. Yeah. Okay. But yeah, I mean, just the way like, just the way the media deal, like, like holds at literally everything back. And that's not going to change anytime. I think 2029 is the last year the media deal like, I don't know, they're gonna have to truly up in the entire structure of the tour and basically start from scratch on the media deal that is like the thing that holds up the tour to really unwind any of this it's why

the events are when they are there's just there's brand equity in some of these events he adds declining on a year-to-year basis with less lesser and lesser fields and more and more money being spent and ratings declining and all this stuff. But it's just, it's a mess, man. And we're doing our best to like keep covering the sport like all this stuff matters like it did four years ago, but it definitely doesn't like feel that way in my gut. And

I just don't wanna give Jay too big of a pass on like, oh, like this is the structure of it. Cause like he signed this week. Oh, I agree. I completely agree. Like a lot of the people that are working there still, like this is the structure of it. Cause like, no sign this. Oh, I agree. I completely agree. Like a lot of the people that are working there still, like there's no, there's not a lot of new blood there. It's the same people. You've lost a bunch of people, but it's the same people

largely that it's just like, man, like, like we're in the same place we were four years ago. And there's just no end in sight. One question I was still, I still can't figure out what D plus D does, but signature event series did not change. 18th public beach is still a signature event. Everything's the same there. Everything's the same. Yeah. That's the surprise to me. I thought maybe they'd move the signature events around a little bit, but I guess, I guess no, it's just probably those. Yeah. I mean, who are the brands they're going to spend 25 million? That's not going to rotate, I don't think. It's a, you know, it's- Or give them first crack at dates or whatever. I guess the thing that I don't get to is like the fall just seems less and less and less like, or like more and more and more

pointless, less than like more rudderless. It's just cheapening everything, right? And I was talking to a few guys about it the other day and they're like, you know, it's basically just creating starts for guys outside of outside of the ecosystem. And it's, and it's essentially like, you know, if you finish 61st in the FedEx Cup after the, you know, after the fall season, there's no difference between finishing 61st and like 120th. Because of the exceptions and getting into stuff with TC is

long getting blown up there. But I also I feel a little the opposite of that TC I'd rather than I'd rather steer more into that like these opposite field events should be in like a separate, like category with those fall events that are all about retaining status, right? There's a should be a FedEx Cup championship, call it whatever you want. That's what all the big guns are playing for. And a subset tour that only the hardcore fans are gonna care about. You don't need to market it, who cares?

Only the players will care about it. And the rest of the people are playing for status and access to the big boy events, right? I don't need FedEx Cup points to go to the Myrtle Beach Classic. I don't, I can't read the graphic of all the tournaments on there. And like there's almost the same size, like the RBC heritage on that graphic is the same size as the Myrtle Beach Classic, and they're not the same tournament. Like it, it that would have been the next step of like. And I get it, man.

You're selling the, you know, whoever is sponsoring this event as you are part of the season long race for the FedEx Cup and guys are gonna want FedEx Cup points. That's why they're gonna come to your tournament and play all that. That's why it's just like, man, if everything that's happened in the world of golf didn't shake it up now,

like I don't know if it's gonna get shaken up because I don't know if it could have been hit any harder by any outside forces. But I think at some point, but like where the rubber meets the road is 20, 20, 30 then, right? Or 20, 31 when the new unless they rip up the deal. Yeah. Or unless there's opt outs within it. And it does NBC want out of this stuff after basketball? I don't know.

Yeah. I guess part of it too is like, you've got the, you know, you've got the, um, the, you know, we'll take worldwide technologies as an example. They pay what? Eight to $10 million a year and they get a tax write off for it, right? For entertaining clients and corporate hospitality down in Cabo. That's probably the most effective way that they can entertain clients. Like that's the most cost effective way to entertain clients in a really, really nice environment is to get a tax write-off for it. Does any of that go away or get more heavily scrutinized when they switch to the for-profit model?

I would think so. That is what I... I'm not an expert on this. That's what Denny Cash would tell me. That's where I think then they're going to cap the charitable giving as well. And they're going to basically try... But then I would imagine they try to make more money on the you know on on the spectator side as well like you know kind of treat it like a real event and be like all right you know what like tours taking this over and we're gonna treat it like a sports franchise and we're gonna have you know just like a solid offering here try to make as much money as we can I just think you know how we always talk about like all the

charity component which is a ton of money that the current PJ Tour format and setup kind of goes with. What if when they move to the for-profit model and the players who are in that for-profit model if they have to take like a pledge you know like Bill Gates's pledge up here of hey you guys got to give 15 percent that's how we got to make up for this charitable giving, sir. How nuts would something like that be? Because it wouldn't surprise me once finally people start pushing back on it and be like, wait a second here, you guys have been supporting these communities and and everything for a long, long time.

And now you're starting to pull the purse strings back on it big time. Well, it's kind of, you know, that's the kind of thing where like a tour player would rather miss a $5,000 putt on the tour than lose a $10 bet to somebody, you know, it's kind of just redistribution, the same thing, right? It would be like more money going to you, but you got to pledge. I don't know. This, you know, I apologize because this is not a happy hour topic. This is not a happy subject. This is a sad hour. I apologize because this is not a happy hour topic. This is not a happy subject. This is sad hour. It's like they're gonna-

This is, well, no, we're on a third or fourth beer at the bar now. And it's like- I feel like they're gonna say, hey, we're, you know, the pie is getting bigger. So even if they're getting a small portion of the pie, it's a bigger pie, right? Last thing before we get out of here,

TC, the highlight of the week for you, I'm sure. Valhalla announces the 2028 Solheim Cup venue. Let me holla at you, TC, we're going back to Valhalla. I'd gotten some concerning, concerning reports from on the ground that they were getting ready to also announce the 2032 or 2033 PGA championship to them as well. So I'm just overall, just overall blessed and relieved and grateful

that that didn't come out this week. In all seriousness, it's not a horrible event for a Solheim Cup. It's a great team event. I think it'll be great for that. Yeah, sign me up for this. I think it's a good fit. Especially in the fall.

So glad to hear you guys say that. We talked about this in our LPGA podcast. It comes out tomorrow. We were all riding for it we think it's going to be an awesome spot for a team event. Sorry, true little show out. No, it's fine. It's fine. You know, we could also we should have a future Solheim Cup at Belle Reeve as well. It's kind of it will honestly you guys

that would work. A lot of these bland golf courses serve as really good team, team venue golf courses, secondary tertiary markets with a chip on their shoulder that you know, big following money to spend big crowds. I'm in support of this as well. I think this will be a good venue. Just do not send the PGA Championship back there. Don't do it. If that's not decided. Yeah, do not do this. Don't do it. It was a disaster on the golf front and obviously what happened

with the police department as well. There's no need to do this. There are, already your lineup for golf courses looks horrific for the most part. It's been bad. Do not put Valhalla in there 2032, 2033. We will not cover your tournament. We will not do live shows.

We will not be doing that. We will not do live shows. We will not be doing that. We will not be partaking in that. So that's gonna do it for happy hour of the FedEx St. Jude Championship. Not the classic, not the WGC Invitational. So like one thing. Of course. Are you gonna sign up for the 30, for the pick the 30 guys?

Oh, I've already got several entries in on several different email addresses for sure $300 to the PGA Tour. Sure gunning for that $300 pro shop credit. Exactly. Right. So yeah, we'll be back on Sunday with a live show reacting to the week in golf. We had a new podcast with Max Homan that came out this week. We'll have a LPGA podcast that will be coming out tomorrow. Got a lot of live shows these final weeks as we wrap up the 2024 PGA Tour season. We're gonna have live

shows into the fall for Solheim Cup, President's Cup, all that stuff. A lot of deep dive pods a lot going on here. Check out our YouTube channel. Subscribe if you're not already subscribed, subscribe to us on the podcast. Listen to them on both. We could use the download counts and it doesn't hurt. Thank you to High Noon. Thank you to Roebuck. Thank you to FanDuel. Cody on the ones and twos TC and Neil. We'll see you back here live on Sunday night crack on