No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 889 - Lydia Ko calls in after AIG Women's Open win + BMW Championship Recap

Episode Date: August 25, 2024

Two Sunday live shows = one crazy weekend. We recap TC and Neil's week out at the BMW Championship, Keegan's huge win, Adam Scott, Ludvig, Castle Pines, and everything else from out west. We also br...eakdown Cody, Randy, and Jordan's week at the AIG Women's Open at St. Andrews (52:00), hear directly from the champion, Lydia Ko (1:51:00), and talk about everything else that transpired on a dramatic back nine at the Old Course. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Music Better than most! Expect anything different? Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up Live show presented as always by our friends at High Noon. Solly here joined by the Schuster brothers, Neil and TC. Joining us from the, live from the back of a BMW it would appear. How we doing fellas? and TC joining us live from the back of a BMW would appear. How are we doing fellas? Sully, I'm doing fantastic. What a day out here at Castle Pines. We're a mile high and I'm vibing.
Starting point is 00:00:52 We are more than a mile high. We're 6,400 feet. Sully, I was saying to Neil, this place is like Muirfield Village West, which I think you would love it. It looked a lot like it on TV, that 18th hole, that clubhouse setting. Denver showed outside Denver showed out this week man there were some crowds flowing out there but before we get going here's
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Starting point is 00:01:53 We're trying to look out for our crew across the pond to make sure they don't have a 2 a.m. bedtime tonight. So we've already done that part of the show. Please stick around for the back half of that. We talked to Lydia Ko, of course, the champion. But first we wanna catch the Schuster bros coming off of a vibrant week out there. What's your reaction to the week? It's been a great week. I got here Tuesday, a little Pro-Am, wet my beak on a Pro-Am, which was great to understand the course,
Starting point is 00:02:20 get a sense of how penal to rough was, pick out some holes, 14 and 15 were my two favorites. And then yeah, the tournament's been really good. I think even some of the, you know, the committee that put in the event on were surprised by how this course throttled the scoring. It held up really, really well, even at altitude. And I think it was really fun for me to watch these guys challenged and kind of flummoxed by both the wind and the altitude. So it was a very engaging tournament to be a spectator of. Yeah, I would say complete affirmation of new markets. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:53 PGA Tour going to places that they don't go every year. Like the tour goes to Greensboro, no offense to Greensboro or the cities or like six places in Texas and all that. It's like, cool, there's wide swaths of the country that are being totally ignored by the tour. And there was a buzz around Denver this week and they showed out in a big way and they put their,
Starting point is 00:03:15 put their money behind the tournament, put their feet behind the tournament, put their eyeballs behind the tournament. It's a total, it's just, it's classic honeymoon phase. You know, it's a novelty. It's great. People were fired up to it's classic honeymoon phase. You know, it's a novelty, it's great. People were fired up to be out there. A big walk though.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And so, you know, credit to the folks out here just outside of Denver for hoofing it. Which they don't need to come here every year, but come here like every four years, like every five years. And there needs to be more tournaments that move around. Like this is the only tournament outside the majors that moves around. And that shouldn't be the case. Well it's also just like we're looking for places to play in August that are not swamp
Starting point is 00:03:52 ass invitationals, right? I mean it's nobody looked miserable out there. I know it was hot out there but you're at altitude. It's not the humidity. It's a totally different heat and it shines. There were some tough attitudes out there. I was going to say people get tend to get a little bitchy and a little whiny near the end of the season some of the players yes the players yes but that's that's good for entertainment purposes like i mean i watched rory snap his driver on nine t it's like sorry bud play better matthew pavon chucked his his iron into the woods from middle of the fairway on 10 the other day Scotty was bitchy all week. Yeah, which we can get it
Starting point is 00:04:30 Yeah, I don't want to throw you off track yet. Honestly. I was kind of in and out we did the live show I missed a fair amount of the golf today, but it was like every time I looked up I watched a lot of it Saturday and a you know, fair amount of it today as well Like whoever was up on top was just fucking up the whole time. I don't know who, I know Keegan won the tournament, we're going to get to that. He birdied the first hole today, made 13 straight pars, got a couple good bounces with drives on 14 and 15, but airmailed one to the back of the green, on the back bunker on 15, did good to make bogey there.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Adam Scott had a window on 15 to make up some space on Keegan, but he airmailed the green, he made bogey as Keegan did as well it was Scott's fourth bogey of the back nine Keegan he led by one over Burns who shot 65 earlier today with three holes to play but Keegan hit a fantastic five iron up the hill on the par 5 17th have for an easy to putt birdie is like the shot of the day on the par 5 ends up making bogey on the 18th but wins an easy to putt birdie is like the shot of the day on the par five ends up making bogey on the 18th but wins by one huge reaction. Guys I feel like Keegan is kind of running the Bryson like playbook right now of like
Starting point is 00:05:34 engaging the crowd. It was a lot of team you a lot of USA chance going on. He's had some really good interviews. I feel like Keegan and Bryson like glow up in terms of PR and public, just appearance in general was not something I had going for 2024. So a couple things, I followed the leaders from 9 through 16 and the golf was grindy. Yeah, Adam Scott, basically the difference was Keegan made a bunch of six footers,
Starting point is 00:06:04 Adam Scott. Basically the difference was Keegan made a bunch of six footers. Adam Scott did not. He bogeyed 10, 11, and 12 because he missed like, you know, a five footer, six footer, and a seven footer. And Keegan made those putts. I don't think until that five iron on 17, Keegan really didn't hit a shot that was like, man, that slammed the door. But he did what he had to do. I sense though with Keegan that the nod for the Ryder Cup
Starting point is 00:06:26 is like a bit of a validation for him. I think it's really helped his confidence. And I was really impressed because it didn't seem like he had his best stuff, but he just kind of kept at it and he didn't go backwards. And then he kind of waited until that moment on 17 in the fairway where he was able to slam the door.
Starting point is 00:06:46 So impressive stuff. Like I know it was also a really interesting contrast of styles. You have a very elegant guy like Adam Scott and a very kind of, honestly, tweaky, twitchy guy like Teagan, but they're both kind of similar. Tweaky. It just, yeah, he's always like truly New England. Yeah. He's always kind of like, is he good? You know, he stands behind the ball, bends his bends his legs, and
Starting point is 00:07:09 he's about to step in, but he stops, he spins his driver head. It's just a lot of twitchiness. And then, but what's funny is, they both kind of stink at putting, you know, like broomstick, recovering broomstick guys. And you know, they both hit it like really, really solid. So they're very different from a, I don't know, an aesthetic standpoint, but they kind of have similar game. So it was an interesting final pairing to watch. Not a lot of fireworks though.
Starting point is 00:07:37 It was really, really, both of them were not like super jacked up. Weirdly solid. I think there's, I think Keegan being the captain has almost put a chip on her shoulder of like, hey, you guys, you guys think like, like, I can still play like, all right, you know, I'm the captain, people think I'm washed or whatever. No, I'm going to qualify for this fucking team. And that seems to be, I mean, he's getting the USA chance all over the place. He's
Starting point is 00:08:00 getting all sorts of, you know, all my captain, captain, my captain, that sort of thing. But I think overall, it's, it's just, it's very much like, I'm going to prove to you guys that I can make this team. And then we'll leave it to the assistant captains and John Wood and the analytics guys to put together the setup and the pairings and all that. It's all I'm hearing some concerning things about what they might do to Bethpage. Just cut everything down and make it a- You shared that earlier in Slack.
Starting point is 00:08:32 TC, that was decided in 2012 when they decided they were going to Bethpage. That was not news to anyone that they're going to cut the rough out of Bethpage. That is the most obvious thing. The listen I I'm the only thing I don't want to have happen is to like for all of next year to be doing is Keegan be going to be playing captain. Like he honestly should I know what he's already said I'm not going to pick myself if I make it on points you know I make it on points which he did not get any points for
Starting point is 00:09:00 this like and if he does make it on points next year credit to you. Oh there's no points for this? No it's not a Ryder Cup year. Oh this is uh oh so wait yep I thought it was the whole two year process thing. Well they do there's points available in majors in the in the non Ryder Cup year. Proceeding they change it every year I don't know what it is. No I was I was actually confused too I would have thought that he'd get some points. That said though like if you want to pick a good guy for Bethpage, like Keegan's game fits it to a T like Bethpage is awesome for him.
Starting point is 00:09:35 As Sally probably is going and looking up the data golf profile. He's not that long. Like, I don't I don't know why. Why does he super long? No, he's not. I think he's like. Above average, but I don't think of average. Super. I will say the shot that he ended into 17, that was the only time that it felt like it was in the balance today. Uh, we can talk Ludwig in a little bit, but Keegan, uh, Keegan had, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:09:57 200 plus into 17 straight up the Hill. They talked about making it a par four this week and the club was like, no, like we want to keep it a par five There's there's a history That you know the course kind of ebbs and flows the international like all those kind of Eagles on that hole and Keegan hit By far the best shot of the day today into 17. You see I can't even explain to you. It's not even a close I mean he hit a approach into 10 to I don't know 8 feet He went to his knees on the approach because he thought it was in the water. Like the flag was like far right.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And that was as close as he hit it until he reached the 17th, uh, into like every other hole that both of them were either at like 15, they both air mailed it over the green, uh, 12 bailed out right. I mean, just not talking to Keegan and I am Scott. The final group was just not sharp. But Keegan just was able to make the five to seven footers and Adam Scott was not. But it's just like as a venue, this place isn't,
Starting point is 00:10:57 it's not the best architect, it's not an architectural masterpiece. It's not. It's a big walk. But it's, yeah, it's like all week it was like I think everybody went in thinking these guys are going to rip this place apart. We got here Tuesday. They had guys out with blowers every night standing the rough up. It was it was like four or five inches long. The Greens firmed up. It was really windy the last few days.
Starting point is 00:11:26 They got a little rain on Thursday night, but otherwise greens were firm. Wind was gusty and like unpredictably gusty. You add in the altitude and, and you know, like 62, 6,400 feet and just there's OB all over the place too. And then also we went out with Stephen Cox this morning, as he was setting up the golf course. He was pointing out all the spots that there's yellow stakes and yellow lines and how much that changes
Starting point is 00:11:54 these guys' perception of a golf hole where it's just very much like, oh my gosh, like there's an actual penalty if I go in the water here and I have to basically redrop from the same spot or you know from the drop area instead of Hey to club lengths from the red line And so all those things combined like I felt like we got a preview of what the PGA tour wants to be in two three four five years And Sally I was asking him, you know, he like here he added some short grass
Starting point is 00:12:27 short of 17 green so that Guys had to worry about Chipping back towards that pin from long long right where all the balls ended up. It was a really thoughtful Set up this week and I thought everybody thought they were gonna go 23 24 under and what was the buddy Keegan went 11 or 12 I think it was 11 because he bogeyed 12 under yeah I thought it was gonna be low I mean it's with four par fives yeah like four gettable par fives some people were calling you out for for saying that these guys were gonna go super low this week on the preview show I believe you said that hey I wasn't out there you guys could have passed along this information earlier this week that would
Starting point is 00:13:02 have been really helpful that would help. I think they all thought that. I mean it was. But just to give you a sense though, like I was on 11T which is the long downhill par three, and I watched on Friday Will Zalat Taurus come through this caddy. The actual number was 202. They were calculating 65 yards down the hill. They were using 12% for their altitude and the wind was down.
Starting point is 00:13:27 So it was like a lot, you know, just a lot of factors involved. So interesting. Well, you saw, I mean, there were so many shots all week where, you know, you're just, guys are just hanging on for dear life. They don't know what's about to happen. Like balls in the air, they don't know what to tell it.
Starting point is 00:13:41 They just have major uncertainty on a lot on, on, you know, calculating all those numbers. it it created some some variety, right? Especially some of those elevated T's on especially on those crosswind holes like dude, I nine eighteen. Yeah, so much OB coming in. Adam Scott would put two balls OB this week and missed every putt and still almost had a chance to win on the on the seventy second hole. Like it was an interesting variety.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Then again, like you said, DC, it's not like, this is not a brilliantly designed golf course, but it is like, and it's not so bad. It's good either. It's just kind of like, this is an interesting little off ramp, something different than what we normally see. Yeah. There's all sorts of consequences. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Like there's a lot of consequential shots, I think. And then the ball, like, so it's in the crazy part is it was what? 8,100 yards. And once you factor in the elevation change, or the the altitude, and then I think overall, like in the aggregate, it plays about 200, 300 feet downhill. And so I think overall, it was like a 7,100 yard golf course. And so for that to, with a par 72 and for that to only yield 1200 par is a credit to, you know, the pin positions, the green and with smooth bent greens too.
Starting point is 00:14:55 If like, man, that was, that's what the PGA Tour should aspire to of it's really, really good tournament golf. And it like, I mean, I shit, I stood on nine and 18T, which there's kind of a like double T for two holes. And it was straight crosswind on Saturday. And I watched Patrick Cantlay, Nick Dunlap, Wills Alatorre, a bunch of guys like just wipe it right into the creek.
Starting point is 00:15:24 And- I stood there today, it was the same thing. They, the ball, it would, you know, it would look right down the middle and be with the altitude. The ball just lingers up there and starts veering right. And then it would go in the water and they all just couldn't believe it. It was, and it's fun to watch these guys get fooled.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Yeah, Rory, same thing happened to Rory today, you know, and then he leaned on that driver a little too much and the thing, broken half. I don't know. It was, it was just a really fun, fun venue. This episode is brought to you by our friend, by the all new Titleist GT drivers. They are now available in golf shops worldwide with Titleist GT drivers. Speed is only the beginning with a powerful new engine. Speed is gained, but also controlled, meaning you get the best possible distance and outcome from every swing
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Starting point is 00:17:25 A lot of, just some of the weird stuff that happens this week. Scotty really freaked out. Was that on Friday? Like he hit a ball in the water, had to take a drop, hit it long, was confused why it did not roll back, just started yelling, how, how?
Starting point is 00:17:41 That's an upslope, what the fuck? Like kind of out of character. That was from the drop zone, which was an awkward distance because of the yellow penalty area. So a lot of times these guys, they, you know, they reach safe harbor when they hit the green and it spins back.
Starting point is 00:17:55 And now they're, you know, the yellow makes a big difference. So I thought that was a really conscious effort from the tour and the setup committee. And it's awesome. And the tour, the tour made it a distinct point this week too, if guys were getting TIO, they're getting TIO from uncomfortable spots. Sources told us that, showed us specific spots for like, yo, if they miss here, this is the TIO.
Starting point is 00:18:20 We have thought this through. And I was like, you know what? This is some of the hope and change that I'm running on. Okay. In, in 20, 20, TIO reform, TIO reform is part of my 20, 28 platform. If I were to, if I was to like true serum, Scotty, who's probably just, he's pissy this week.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Like I think he would probably say like this big of a variable going up in altitude this late in the season to like it doesn't really matter he ended up still first seed going into next week but like it's silly stuff so it's it again I don't necessarily agree with it like I think you're the whole point of golf is like your game should travel to all kinds of different you know different playing conditions and all that stuff but I'm if I had like true serum some of these guys so they are they like second to last tournament with so much on the line and berths into tour championship? Did you hear any kind
Starting point is 00:19:08 of like whispers of, you know, kind of this weird golf course? I think there's stuff where, hey with Scotty, it's kind of like, yeah, like he should have almost just gone on total cruise control this week and said, Hey, you know what? Like he, he, he, he complained at Memphis and said, Hey, I want, you know, like my, my lead here should be reflected. Basically, you know, if this is a regular season extension, then my lead should be reflected. And it wasn't, but now like that, that kind of gave him license to go on cruise control this week. And I still feel like he tried to keep the pedal down. Uh, and Xander played pretty well.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Like he's kind of, those two are kind of way out in front of everybody. But I think with, with Scotty is like, I just think it's reflective of what the tour needs to decide with the playoffs. Do you want them to be the playoffs? And, and if so, then you need to invest in venues and they need to go out to the West coast and do shit in prime time and, and, you know, really invest in venues and they need to go out to the west coast and do shit in primetime and and You know really invest in the product or do you want to be a culmination of the regular season and just make it? Hey, you know what like Scotty you you won however many times during the regular season
Starting point is 00:20:18 We're gonna just crown you during the playoffs. Yeah, I would say it's more evidence solid I don't know if it was you or I but I've heard the fear like Scotty doesn't play well on his first visit to a course and throw this one in that category, right? Of like, it's Adam Scott. So, you know, Scottie's first look at this place and that seems to be the only kryptonite we can find for Aquaman. Kind of an underrated thing for next week because Eastlake, you know, obviously an annual venue, but brand new setup. They just, they're coming out of a complete renovation and everything like that. Will Scotty, A, it's a course he hasn't really played all that well at previously. Totally. And he hasn't won the facts the last couple of years. And then B, you add in, hey, it's
Starting point is 00:21:16 a new look as well. So I'm really, really curious to see. I think Scotty could kind of melt over a little bit or be kind of pissy if things don't get off to a great start next week and he's trailing after Friday or Saturday. It's blowing my mind that Jason Day played the PGA Tour in 2006. I'm like, this guy can't be right. I'm looking it up and sure enough it is. Yeah, that was just so out of character. And it was just like, man, there's a fair amount of bitchiness this week with Rory throwing a club into the water once and then breaking a club. And then you guys saw the Matt Fitzpatrick incident today.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Well, yeah, well, honestly, we were kind of a part of the drama as we were rolling around with the head rules official. It's like, just looking at the course, checking out the pins. He was giving us a lot of context on how they set things up. It was it was fascinating. And then all of a
Starting point is 00:22:08 sudden, the radio starts crackling. And it's like, hey, we got a face collapse situation. Matt Fitzpatrick saying his driver heads crack or his face is cracked. But it's like, the the main the rules official on on the ground with him was like, I can't like my finger there's no it's not loose like they have a test for it. It looks to be just, you know, an aesthetic crack, but he was adamant that it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And so then we rolled up in the car and all of a sudden these like PGA tour live cameras are like in my grill. And I'm like, you're on a ride along with the cops. Truly. I mean, it was like an episode of cops. I was like, you on the ground. No, no, no, I'm not, I'm not one of the cops, I promise. They should have brought you in for an opinion. That would have been good content.
Starting point is 00:22:51 But it sounds, no, it sounds like that rule though, they're thinking about adjusting because it's like, all right, it has to be irreparably harmed. Like, you know, the club has to be irreparable, beyond repair. Beyond repair. In Officer Gillis language. And like, yeah, yeah, the club has to be irreparable beyond repair damage than officer Gillis language. And like, yeah, yeah, the pants material damage to where, hey, it's affecting, I guess they've done
Starting point is 00:23:12 a bunch of testing of like, if the face is cracked, it's still launching off of the face. And they went through their whole process. And it and they just couldn't buy the, you know, letter of the law. They're like, you got to play this club. And Fitzpatrick's like rightfully upset with that. And so it's kind of like, hey, if a club malfunctions, not the players, he didn't snap it like Rory did, like then maybe in the near future, they're gonna look at that rule.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Which I think is, at least they're kind of trying to evaluate like the logic of some of this stuff. But I can tell you that Fitzpatrick was not happy about it because I was like, man, what are these cameras all up in my grill for? I was like, this must be a thing. So that was fun. He was pissed off.
Starting point is 00:23:53 It was, they posted the clip and it was, which- Good on them for posting the clip. Or somebody did, I assume it was them. And it got shared around. He had some words for him saying it was ridiculous. But he hit another shot with it and it like duck hooked. And he was like, so I have to play the restaurant with a three wood. And this guy's like, yeah, pretty much you do. I don't know. I do feel like the tour, just different stuff this week. I feel like the tour is loosening up a little bit just overall.
Starting point is 00:24:21 That's what I've heard. I'm waiting to see it a little bit. I think they need to see the ball go through the hoop a little bit on a couple of things. You've got some leading indicators, Sal. We don't know if inflation is flowing down, but we think it's cooling. That's what we're noticing. A good 10 years after we started putting the heat on,
Starting point is 00:24:38 I'm there like, I don't know, these guys might be onto something with some of these things. Maybe in three years, we might see the regulations be a little bit loosened. But no, there was, I mean, truly there was a buzz out here in Denver and they sold out on tickets. It was a tough ticket to get around town. And like it was like Randy's fiance came out first golf tournament ever today.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Of course it's your first golf tournament ever. You're engaged to Randy. Of course he's not going golf tournament ever. You're engaged to Randy. Of course he's not gonna bring you to one. And you know, and sure enough, she's like, this is awesome. This is great. She's like, do you think I can get a ticket? I was like, I think we can probably help you. We know some people. But no, it was truly like, and I think that's just the energy of going to a place that has grown like crazy over the last 10, 15 years. I got a good story on that. So you find it at the Denver airport and on the,
Starting point is 00:25:30 on the plane train, you know, the between concourses, Wyndham Clark comes on and he starts, he's like, welcome. You know, we the, the world of golf, it's all this very general golf talk because they couldn't mention PG, like the Denver airport had these regulations around like what you could say you couldn't promote because it's a public yeah it couldn't be a commercial advertisement so he's just like welcoming everybody the world of golf is here this is the you know the best players the big championship yeah yeah the biggest a big championship is here this week you know it was so but so vague and generic but it's's cool to hear like, as someone who was coming to the tournament,
Starting point is 00:26:06 I'm like, oh, that's, that makes an impact on me of like, oh man, the city's happy to have the golf tournament here. Like, I don't know if they're doing that at Hartsfield next year or next week, right? Like, because they're there every year. So there's naturally a bit of a, it's just not as, there's not as much excitement when a tournament's in the same place every year, so.
Starting point is 00:26:25 We have the Any other big takeaways we can look at standings going in and we put anything else from on site You I got five takeaways and I think TC does too. You want to go there? Sure, I've already done a couple of mine. Okay, let's do some well. I had five specific things This was my first tournament which I almost cheapish to say first time I've been on site this year Listen got it got a newborn at home uh, and so I had a few things that were like What you pick up when you're in person so today i'm standing on that split t-box 9 and 18 big tone walks up
Starting point is 00:26:57 He tees it up, you know, and there's a nice the gallery's like right behind the t-box And he kind of I don't know the the sound of his drive sounded a little weird, but he stripes it. It literally center cut right down the fairway. And he turns around and he hits, he literally hits a Jeb Bush. He goes, please clap. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:14 And I was just like, that's the kind of like little thing that like Tony's not in the hunt. Yeah. It's middle of the day, but just that little interaction. He also made like 400 grand this week. I know, but it just, I was just kind of like, I wrote that down because I was like,
Starting point is 00:27:27 you just heard me, please clap. Please clap. It's right down the middle guys, you know? And it was just, it's good, I don't know, it's good to get that like in-person juju or those in-person anecdotes. Speaking of Big Tone, could be a tough week for Big Tone.
Starting point is 00:27:40 I think there's a big feature article coming out about some of the stuff that's been going on out in Utah and Salt Lake from a sponsorship, you know, investment perspective. So I like Big Tone. I hope he gets through it. He made $3.44, $1.12 this week. He made me some. He played good. He was playing with Cam Young, who went the opposite direction. direction apologies to Cody, but Kim got absolutely vaporized He's blown out over the Great Plains. I think he shot like six over today It's it's kind of wild I see Roy throw a club
Starting point is 00:28:11 I see him break a club this week where he made 500 grand for his t11 finish half a million dollars I know he doesn't need it. But all right, let me let me hit you with with another one Friday saw Wyndham Clark hit an unbelievable recovery shot off the right side of 17. The gusty swine. The gusty swine. Crowds love home game models off the charts. Crowd loving him. Derek White for some reason, the Celtic, followed him for three straight days, all 18 holes. If you're watching live, you can see like, and okay, I just want to like reiterate, Wyndham was laying up and he was like breaking the classic rule of hitting a hard layup. He's hitting it through this like window, like 50 feet up. He pulls it off. But another example
Starting point is 00:28:54 of like being on site, how jacked up people get when these guys play from the crowd. You know, like you hear the casual fans are like, you know, some guys bringing his kid over like, check this out. Like it's just the energy is so. Another reason we need TIO reform. Yes, exactly. A hundred percent because that's where the juice is. Like everyone's like feeling like. They're in the arena.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Yes, they're, oh my God. I can't believe we are here to watch him hit this shot. And then he executes it after he and his caddy, John Ellis, like, you know, got the number. Like it was really fun to watch them go through their process. There's probably at least two or 300 people, you know, in the background here. And I just, I don't know, being on site for something like that. It's just really, it's kind of fun. Even I felt that way. Like I just, I
Starting point is 00:29:37 had just wandered over from, from 10 green. I'm like, oh shit, there's a ball. Oh, it's Wyndham's ball. Oh, let me sit. let me set up shop right here. This is great. And I snapped this picture. So another reason just like, yeah, I gotta get on site a little bit more, Solly. I'm trying, bud. I'd love to. I know, me too.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I'd love to miss this two years in a row I've had to miss for Charlie. All right, I got two more. I'm gonna skip one of them. One of them was just the 14th hole. I thought it was gorgeous with the backdrop. It was a great pin. 655 yard par five, dogleg left, loved it.
Starting point is 00:30:06 All right. That was the same hole that Neil went. He flew it over the hospitality tents and Wednesday in the Pro-Hamm with a seven wood from what, 240? 240. And then he refused to take TIO relief. Flopped it over the hospitality tent
Starting point is 00:30:20 and almost made birdie, but comfy five. Some guy on the eighth hole, they were live betting on Saturday Ludwig to birdie. Ludwig took a 12 footer and I swear, like I've never seen two guys, like one of them tackled the other one. They both won 600 bucks. And I bring this up because like it was really fun
Starting point is 00:30:41 because these guys are jacked up. But I'm like, that's kind of the future here of just people just sitting around like live betting. So I don't really know how I feel about that. The first experience I've had with like on site, like the lot not just two guys betting each other because you hear that a lot like oh yeah, 10 bucks, you know, I bet 10 bucks he misses this. It was like no, they both when he had teed off because I asked them, they were like no we bet a bunch of money that he was Birdie and he did going back to your last point of Hey, we're in the arena. Yeah Those two things aren't necessarily Sympathetic I know so that's a little like I don't know how I feel about that one But I wanted to point it out because it was kind of a striking moment for me
Starting point is 00:31:22 And then the last one he didn't really show up today, but I followed Ludwig for 10 holes yesterday. And the pace is just aspirational. I would say, rarely, when he had pulled a club was the ball not in the air. 20 seconds later, like it's under 20. He picks the clubs, steps behind it, takes one look and then the club is back. And it was a really fun round to watch. He won part of the first, one part of the first four holes or I mean, he made like a 40 footer on the first hole
Starting point is 00:31:55 as he's dripping blood from an altitude nosebleed. So we had to like pause and then he makes the putt and he just got off to such a good start on Saturday. And then he backtracked a little bit, but. We'll get to to that. So yeah that's the last one. I just seen Ludwig in person that's the first time I've watched him up close since we played with him but he really is like he's a stud and he's just he's a real engaging dude he's not like keeping his head down he's a big it seems like he's always looking out he makes eye contact with fans I just appreciate the way he kind of goes about
Starting point is 00:32:27 his business and enjoyed following him for nine holes. I'm gonna I'm gonna quiz you guys on this because you can't look at anything. You guys are in the car and I don't I don't know the answer to this either. I've stopped at a topic of conversation really of anything but so these six automatic qualifiers on the US side for the President's Cup Which just and the qualification just ended just now are Colin Morikawa Patrick Cantlay saw hith Scotty Scheffler Windham Clark and Xander Shofley. So those are the six who were the who were the who are your six? I'm not look good right now. I saw his wrist is all messed up and he just generally just bad day today I think I think he might have been a Friday
Starting point is 00:33:08 Without being able to look at the points list who are who are your six guys? You're putting on the team after these automatic qualifiers again cantlay Xander scotty Morikawa windham and sahith are the automatic qualifiers. I'm putting denny mccarthy. Okay I think then he's playing greek golf right now. That's it. That was a bit of a left fielder there TC I'm going with akshay Give me some young blood is Did you say Wyndham? Yeah, Wyndham's on he's on okay
Starting point is 00:33:37 It's kind of hard it's kind of hard to figure out yeah, I think big tone I mean he's there in Canada Yeah, big tone is seventh on the list So yeah, okay. Yeah, so think Big Tone. I mean he's... They're in Canada. Yeah. Big Tone is seventh on the list. So yeah, I think he's in ability. Okay, yeah, so Big Tone's on. Who else we got? It's interesting now, huh? Yeah, I think... Yeah, I can't look it up. I think Akshay is absolutely on. 100%? Like, Danny McCarthy. What a good like... He's been playing great golf right now. You're picking Lee Harvey Oswald instead of your boy JT Poston who I think you've said like five times place with the best golf in the world he's
Starting point is 00:34:10 here every year top 50 every year he's unbelievable I mean like let's talk about Keegan well I was gonna say like mean, Spieth is out. That helps, right, in terms of- All right, so JT and Max are two that, like, I mean, Max, not a good week. Like, honestly, I would say, if I was the captain, and be like, yo, man, like, we need you for Ryder Cup next year, go get your mind right. Go shut it down.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Go have an off season. I think that's one of the things is, like, Spieth's having surgery. Ludwig's having surgery in a couple weeks. I think with with Max it's like man like go like We're talking to Joe this week and like I don't think Max would Mind us saying this like he's just like he he's been two-way missed with the driver for the last couple months he's just like burned out a little bit, right? And it's just like, go get your mind right and fall back in love with playing golf again.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Like I feel like now more than ever, if we're gonna elevate all these signature events and make, like expand the part of the season that matters and put all this money out there, these guys need an off season. And because otherwise like, a four week or a six week break isn't going to cut it like you need you need two three months.
Starting point is 00:35:29 So I would argue. So the last two names, I think Sam Burns, these last two weeks kind of maybe a recency bias, but I mean, great day today. Played well in Memphis last week, has experience, you know, playing in this that team format. So, you. So he's a veteran, he's a known name. And honestly, you could probably start, you could make an RUB for Nick Dunlap. And if you wanna go super young. That's a really good call. I mean, I saw him play a little bit this week
Starting point is 00:35:56 and he got him and he just munches the ball. Do you try to get somebody like Zala Torres? Zala Torres is another good option. In where like, hey, get him some know team experience. I'm kind of out on Cam Young for the Presidents Cup. He is trending in the wrong direction. You're gonna have to pick somebody there's not an abundance of options. Yeah I mean and I'm like I'm not sure the course fit for rural Montreal. You know like I'm not sure what that that place is really all about. But, you know, I think, I don't know, it's a
Starting point is 00:36:28 it's a PGA tour thing as well. So they're going to try to tie in guys that made it to the tour championship or whatnot, you know, like, is there a that heavily on? No, absolutely not. I think I think JT has a better case than Max. But I think both of those guys should shut it down for the year president's cup doesn't fucking matter okay like nobody cares who wins who it's it's a it should it's a true like if the if the US team is approaching this correctly it should be a true let's get some let's get some reps for some guys.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Let's test some things out and figure it out. I agree with that. Um, but I think it matters too. I bet it matters to max and JT. I think they really liked that environment. I, I probably skew towards let's get some younger blood in there or some guys that are trending more than, like the experience factor doesn't matter as much to me as like, are you in good form or not? But like, so there's, to me,
Starting point is 00:37:33 there's still not the guy that's like beat, like Dunlap has not played better golf than JT. Like he, and he won the Barracuda. That's fair. I was kind of throwing that out as like, you could throw that in the conversation. But you're looking at upside. That's like a Ludwig thing where like, hey, let's get this guy
Starting point is 00:37:46 I think that it's gonna have to be like a guy that's really beats down the door though to usurp somebody like JT in that Spot I think max might be a different company That's again kind of a hard conversation to be on the President's Cup team of like hey man Like go go get your mind right Like that that like that's where I'm almost you're kind of lumping JT in with I don't max and speed right now though JT's had a better year than we think it hasn't been like, above average for his career, but he actually kind of surprised me when I when I saw him here, I was like,
Starting point is 00:38:16 Oh, you're eating an injection of confidence where it's just crazy to me that Max is, is a, you know, borderline Presidents Cup guy went over the line. Like since I think I need to look at where we were last year around, you know, a few weeks later than, you know, basically 11 months ago where we were with Max in Rome. So now like, man, that kind of bums me. Okay. You know what? You want me to really bum you out last year at this tournament?
Starting point is 00:38:44 He set the course record in the Olympia fields. Yeah. that kind of bums me. Okay, you want me to really bum you out? Last year at this tournament, he set the course record in the Olympia fields. Yeah. And like on, I think that was Friday that he did that Friday or Saturday. He played well today. He did. He shot 500 a day. He had, he finished strong, but I mean, the, the, the ju, the vibes and the juice are off with Max right now. I still wouldn't, I wouldn't rule him out. I wouldn't honestly. I mean, I think Keegan is more is likely for a spot, especially after this, just because it's kind of barren out there. And with Max's record in this against match play, it's different. Like I would not rule him out. And again, I just don't think like they're going to do
Starting point is 00:39:20 like Brian Harmon over Max and JT. Solly, two guys. So I think what is what is Alitouris in the in the rankings right now? I don't they have not updated them as of now. He was not in the top 25 of the rankings. I would say another guy we play with him on Wednesday. You're not going to like this. Tom Hoagie. Did he also say he's not playing? He said he's playing like shit, man. He's almost like sheepish So, I'm Tom Hoagie. He's not playing. He said he's playing like shit, man. He's
Starting point is 00:39:48 almost like sheepishly like I can't believe I made it in. I made it in the top 50s like I just been you know, somehow getting top 10s and 20s in the signature event. He was very like like kind of self-effacing about it and then he played
Starting point is 00:40:00 well. I think he was he was T thirteen thirteen exactly played so bad. Oh god. The Proamp solid he played awful at all, you know Grazerman's got like the the you know quad max out on every shot and Hoagie gets picks us up at the turn and he's just Like, you know, he's not even he's just kind of hitting It was great truly playing like he's at home with his buddies like I was like damn I was a big fan of his vibe and it was going I brought that up because like it's at home with his buddies. I was like, damn, I was a big fan of his vibe. Coach coin.
Starting point is 00:40:25 I brought that up because it's bleak out there, honestly, on the US side. And it's an interesting convo. And I don't know if it's going to be. Are the internationals having a moment? I wouldn't get out of hand here, TC. There were a lot of Korean. Well, TC had also pointed, well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Siwoo, Ben On on J days playing nice Adams gots playing great Hideki, I don't know about the back this week. This doesn't feel like there's a time. I'm David Lee I guess Canadians. Sorry, I followed pen earth for a little bit this week Take it all away. Like that's an indictment of the mod. What do you call it? What's the video game term? NLP NC NPC indictment of the mod. What do you call it? What's the video game term NLP? NPC. He walked up to the team like I've never laid eyes on that guy. That's crazy. Global superstar Tom Kim. No you know Cam Davis? Yeah. Yeah. Cam Davis played great
Starting point is 00:41:20 today. Smelly Cam Davis. Super. Super global superstar, Tom Kim. Let's look at, let's go ahead and look at the board going into next week. Scottie's jumped out to a nice lead over Xander going into the Tour Championship. Hideki starting three back after having withdrawn from the BMW this week is gonna be interesting. And again, kind of the new way they've done this
Starting point is 00:41:43 or the way they've done this for several years now, like he used to be in a lot safer spot if he was having an injury issue going into this whereas like if he's got a Withdrawal he goes down to go goes down to last place and loses like five million dollars So you may see him you're gonna see him try to finish next week Keegan jumps all the way up to fourth after getting on on the number into the BMW championship. Yeah, it's impressive I mean we didn't really give him enough credit upfront. In on the number, it goes out and wins this event. 100%.
Starting point is 00:42:12 One of the grindiest rounds I've seen in person. So I just want to make sure that we don't shortchange Keegan. It was a really, really impressive day from him. Going back to I think Hideki, he he shot 60, what? Shot 67. He was 500 after round one and we're watching him warm up on the range on Friday. And then he just walked off. He's just like yeah I'm peace guys I'm gonna I'll see you in Atlanta. And he had kind of whiffed the putt to finish his first round. That's all I said, just kind of a weird golf.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Very weird golf. Ludwig is in fifth. He's at minus five Rory, more a cow, a Clark burns, can't lay a tide for six that minus four, uh, that's as far as we're going to go down the leaderboard. That's how it's done there. TCU states, keep it tight and down the leaderboard. Let's get to our serve pro Mea Culpas in golf. When bad shots happen, there's the mulligan ball.
Starting point is 00:43:07 When fire, water, or other damage happens, there's Serve Pro. Thankfully the pros at Serve Pro can help us clean up some messy takes from this week or this month or this year. We can go around the horn on some bad takes of Mea Culpas and make them like they never even happened. Neil, what is your mulligan? Well, we could go a few directions with this one.
Starting point is 00:43:26 We could, I was thinking about just my pronunciation all year, like even in the pro-am I called Max Grazerman. Oh, you're panicked for Grazerman. Grazerman. Grazerman, I just, I might have like undiagnosed dyslexia. I don't know, okay, a lot of letters in that name, but we're not gonna do that. I was trying to reflect today,
Starting point is 00:43:44 cause you saw, you asked like, let's do one for the whole season. And I'm like, when did I feel like the most sheepish about something? And it's definitely the block party for the Masters. My son had just been born. I kind of rushed that play and was like, yeah, we're doing a block party for the Masters.
Starting point is 00:44:02 And Roy played like, you know, it just didn't show up. And I thought, you know what? I thought you would have said like selling off the block party for the Masters. And Rory played like, you know, it just didn't show up. And I thought, you know what? I thought you would have said like selling off the block party to private. No, no, I thought that was the right play because it's, you know, sometimes you gotta, it's not about me, TC. That's the point.
Starting point is 00:44:14 So I think that just kind of want to apologize kind of for Rory's season overall. That's my, my vehicle. I feel like I got it kicked off on the wrong foot at Augusta in April. So there you have it. Do you see? Yeah, Sally, I, you know, a hand up here. Um, I want to apologize for Ludwig and for my support of Ludwig. Um, it's, uh, you know, last year I'd kind of pronounced him, Hey,
Starting point is 00:44:43 he's going to be the second coming. This guy is coming for your souls. Let me take you through Ludwig's year. This is worldwide, played in 19 events. At the end of last year, at the end of 2023, he was 29th in the world. But this year he played 19 events. He's got three second place finishes,
Starting point is 00:45:06 five fourth through 10th finishes, only two missed cuts and he's fourth in the world. Wow. And that's just going to flip it on you solid. That's just not acceptable. Okay. And I think he's out of gas a little bit. I think, like, I apologize. He finished solo second in this event. That's not acceptable. I think he's out of gas and he's getting, I think his meniscus is all messed up. He's going to get surgery in the next couple of weeks. And I think he needs to take stock of where he's at, how his life has changed over the last 15, 16 months or so, and start moving forward and kind of hit the hard reset. Because obviously this year, not acceptable, didn't get a win.
Starting point is 00:45:45 hit the hard reset because obviously this year not acceptable, didn't get a win. We've got a major win. I want an RSM. That was last year. Is that technically last year's calendar? Yeah. Yeah. It's a new schedule, Neil. You're not going to believe it.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Yeah. The fall. I can't keep up with this stuff. It's like, no, it's the writer's. Find out the fall series. Soon as crazy. No. So the fall series counts towards next year.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Nope. All right. Sorry. Nope. No, it's no, it counts towards next year's priority ranking, but it's crazy. No, so the fall series counts towards next year. Nope. All right, sorry. No, it counts towards next year's priority ranking, but it's last year's thing. Okay, so I was- You were not right about anything.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Make that your medical football game. Somehow you've gotten it wrong on both sides. What are you actually apologizing for? That's the thing, I'm not apologizing for anything. That's what I figured. See, I knew that, I knew it was- I knew you were gonna do that. And he's been playing hurt all year, and everybody's been, oh, you know what, Leviton shoots 75
Starting point is 00:46:29 today or whatever. And listen, we need to clean up the Saturdays and Sundays, but you've seen his floor this year. So I apologize for that. You've seen too much of his floor. You're going to see more of his ceiling next year. He's going to win a major. He's going to win at least three or four times on tour.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Okay. I'm going to put that in the NLU record and we're going to revisit that to make sure we're not gonna get away with that one in the sheet. All right, cool. I apologize You write that down solid. I missed that he's gonna win a major and he's gonna win three or four times on tour But the next year the thing that I just did is you don't know if those three or four times the major Counts towards that and I said three or four. So I got all sorts of wiggle room. Sure. I apologize. My man, Culpa was giving TC that much air time. I should have cut that off a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Mine was just gonna be, I don't wanna say I abused the podcast bump, but listen, I was trying to give JT a little bump here going into the back half of the year. I was trying to give Max a little bump here going to the back half of the year, thinking they might turn their game around after making some podcast appearances.
Starting point is 00:47:26 History has shown that to be the case, but maybe a little bit of abuse on that. They did not have the finishes to the year that we were hoping for. JT's not done technically, but it's not been the sprint through the finish line that we're hoping. So I just want to apologize for everybody that was putting in big plays on the podcast bump that has had great returns in the past. Can I ask a question? Did Tommy make the tour championship?
Starting point is 00:47:47 I know he was right on the bubble. He did, I think he was well off the bubble. He did, and I hit yet another FanDuel Sunday play. I'm on a little bit of a heater with some of those. So what did he finish at? T5. Oh, great. He finished T5 this week, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Hey, that's fantastic. And got off to a really bad start. And then you bump. We interviewed him on Wednesday night. Literally, he dragged me to a C-suite event. Everybody there. Yeah. In the Manning cave. Everybody there was like, Oh my God, like Tommy's great, huh? Like, I was like, yeah, I've been trying to tell you. I'm trying to tell y'all. It's good to see Feno back out there. Good to see Tommy giving Feno the staff bag this week as well. No, no, the carry bag.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Or the carry bag, not the staff bag. But yeah, overall, I don't know, I think Tommy, T5, I think his best golf is still ahead of him. And he's gonna prove the haters wrong. Sal, you can write that down. Okay, oh, you print that. Of which there are many. Well, special shout out to BMW has been a longtime supporter of our content
Starting point is 00:48:47 They have been they've I would say they've quote got it Dating all the way back to 2017 and like setting us up for success at all of their championships that they've put on in many different parts of the globe on a lot of different tours and it's been a great relationship and It's great to have your I love to see you guys buzzing have to be an on site especially you Neil tall all the on site it was a great all great experience I mean and that I hope that most people that go to golf from man I should do this more often it's kind of the takeaway is like that's exactly what you're looking for so I think something else too is the WGA the Western Golf Association every member I meet they're all great. Yeah, it's just very, you know, well, and just like the Evan scholars are at the center of this. They, they give cars
Starting point is 00:49:29 to all the PGA tour caddies. They announced the caddies names along with the players. Like there, there just seems to be a central focus and the theme. And I mean, like, like Duffy and George Solich, who kind of help run Castle Pines, they were both Evans Scholars alums and like, there's just this like generational connectivity between, you know, just Evans Scholars and Western Golf Association and moving around the country and all that. And I know there's flack for them not, you know, for them go to the East Coast often or whatever. And we're trying to be like, man, you guys should go to Chambers Bay, get out to San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:50:06 He's like, you guys should go to Japan. You guys can fit her in Osaka. Just go to like Pacific Northwest, go to San Francisco, go to, you know. So next few years, I think next year's back at caves. And then it's Belle Reeve. And Belle Reeve and then Liberty. Yeah, I'm not gonna win.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I think we gotta go to Belle Reeve, maybe take in a baseball game. Tickets are cheap. I think they could be really. Oh, yeah, the best way to make all those fans in Gollum. You guys could come join me up at Liberty. I might need paid security
Starting point is 00:50:33 for the next couple of BMW championships. Solly Might too. He's been flaming St. Louis on the Seamsters pod. That's what I'm saying. They're fans of a band and their team. Anyways, this is exactly what we said we weren't gonna do. If you are listening to the pod, the next section you are gonna hear is our live show
Starting point is 00:50:49 after the AIG Women's Open. If you are listening to this live, check out our previous video, previous live show video right here on our YouTube page. We chat with Lydia Ko after winning the AIG Women's Open and everything you could possibly imagine after that one. So, TC, of course, wouldn't let me finish. Yep. We'll give you the last word TC.
Starting point is 00:51:06 No I just like to say I'm really proud of Randy, Cody, Jordan, proud of all of them but I'm especially proud of Cody this week. I think he, like the RNA and women's hope and radio put him out with the last group and it's kind of an affirmation like he's really, really, really good on the radio. Cody, get your ass in here.
Starting point is 00:51:27 We know you're sitting back there. He just wants to go to bed and you're keeping him from this. He's across the pond right now trying desperately to go to sleep. Big day for the big guy. Yeah, so. We get into all that. It was great to hear you guys talk about it.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Like as folks are gonna listen to that now, but I was immensely proud of you for not just today, but the whole week, what you guys did last year, and how you guys have kind of refined your skillset on that front. Thanks, I appreciate it. This is a nice looking card too. Dolly, let's do this.
Starting point is 00:52:01 We are out of here, thank you very much. Crack on, cheers. Calling in live from across the pond. Mr. Cody McBride, Mr. Big Randy just got done doing AIG women's radio this week. Fellas, how we doing? Oh my God, Sully literally buzzing. I'm not sure the energy inside of this radio cabin booth could truly be any higher. That was the most extraordinary tournament. I mean, just Cody got to walk with the final group at an all course open championship. I was in the booth. It just was so
Starting point is 00:52:36 much fun. I can't wait to get into it. Jordan Perez is also with us. She is in the media center. She's going to be popping in and out. I know she's gonna be doing a little bit of writing as well. Hello, Jordan. Guys, if you don't mind, I'm gonna run through a few, I'm just gonna run through what happened today in today's tournament. This weekend's tournament really.
Starting point is 00:52:57 You guys did a halfway show on Friday. Nellie Korda had a three-shot lead going into Saturday, but a tough stretch on the back nine on Saturday, including an OB ball on the 16th hole brought her in at 75. She fell two back of GA Shin. Lillia Vu entered the final round one back. Lydia Ko was just three back. We were teed up for an incredible final round. The conditions were there all week. The front nine here on Sunday was the gettable side, but it was so low major major backups
Starting point is 00:53:26 I'm sure we're going to talk about some of that Some traffic issues out there But Nellie made birdies on the fifth seventh ninth and tenth and got up and down from the Strathbunker on the 11th hole It looked like it was Nellie time at that point Lily of who and G a shin Scuffled a little bit in this stretch. They both bogey the 11th hole and GA Shin scuffled a little bit in this stretch. They both bogey the 11th hole. Lilia also bogey the 10th hole. Nellie Korda was in the middle of 13 fairway ahead by two at that moment and then Nellie proceeded to make a massive series of unforced errors on the 14th hole. She pitched over the green with her
Starting point is 00:53:58 third shot from not that difficult of a spot. She failed to get her chip onto the green from an easy lie. Then she chipped it several feet past the hole with her fifth shot She I thought she could have easily lagged it up there putted it up there then missed the bogey putt a double bogey out of nowhere that was just a The most bizarre sequence of the entire day. I think it got to be a moment. She's gonna be kicking herself And then from there the action got extremely good. Lydia Ko birdied the 14th hole in the group ahead of her to get to minus seven, but she gave it right back on the 15th hole. I'd mark this at 1 10 Eastern time. It was Lilia Vu, Nellie Korda, G.A. Shin and Lydia Ko all tied
Starting point is 00:54:36 at six under par with Lilia and G.I. on the 16th hole and Lydia was teeing off on the 17th. That is four number ones, former number ones, tied for the lead on Sunday at the Old Course, final major championship of the year. It was incredible. On 17th, Lydia hit a fantastic fairway wood from the fairway. It skirted the bunker, went up to about 25 feet. The rain was pissing sideways at that point. She made it look like an easy par, but it was only easy because of how good that second shot was. And there was a, she was putting out on the 18th hole, she stuffs it in there tight on 18 with a rainbow, the sunshine was a flooding there on the green as she makes a birdie putt on the 18th hole. Nellie had a really good look for birdie on 16 for about 12 feet but missed it left. Nellie then pulls her tee shot in the 17, gets in the road hole bunker, plays out right of the pin and this is right around the time that Lydia's making
Starting point is 00:55:28 her birdie putt to get to seven under par. It already goes in. It'd be impossible for Nellie to be unaware of what's going on right in front of her. There's no better place to look up you know from a green to see what's happening on the hole above you. You hear the roar when Lydia makes her putt and Nellie is a 10 footer for par that doesn't even come close to reaching the hole, that had to go in, doesn't even get there. She falls two back. And it was just unexplainable.
Starting point is 00:55:57 I'm really struggling to wrap my head around it. Back nine, final group, G.A. Shannon and Lillia Vu. It was taking them a little while. G.A. had some pace problems on the back nine but Lily could just not keep the ball off the left side of the golf course on the back nine it is very hard to win from there she's got a birdie the 18th she hits the road with her tee shot gets to 32 yards away from the pin but pitches well past leaves a putt to get into a playoff at the women's open way short like inexcus, misses the short par putt to cost herself $300,000.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Lydia Ko has won the AIG Women's Open. That always takes longer to get through all the play-by-play than it looks like it's going to, but man, it was an action-packed, awesome freaking golf tournament to watch on television. And guys, something is telling me that the in-person experience was even better, and I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:56:44 It was incredible. I want to defer to Cody, because I was in this radio booth. I was having the time of my life. I, like you, Solly, maybe with a little better TV watching experience, but I was listening to everybody out on the course. Cody, you were out there.
Starting point is 00:57:00 What was that moment like? Just describe that back nine and going up eventually to 18. Oh, the first thing I'll say is that yesterday when I was out on the course, calling the golf on the radio, I was with Lydia Ko and she hit the ball amazing. But not only off the tee, but her iron striking were so dialed. It was just at every time that she needed to be within 20 feet, she was right at like 30, 35 feet. And she was so persistent and dependable. And you
Starting point is 00:57:32 could tell that like she had momentum on her side. And I knew waking up this morning that as long as she continued to be as dialed as she was, that she has an excellent chance to be in this tournament. And we sit here today as you know, her being another major champion, adding another major championship to her resume. After an unbelievable summer, we started out this year being like, you know, where's Lydia Coad this she hasn't had the year that, that we all kind of anticipated because if people think back, I mean, she played great. She started out kind of on fire and then she got clipped by Nelly at the drive on.
Starting point is 00:58:08 And it's like she disappeared. Nobody really knew what was going on. But she's so steadfast, determined, resilient. She's such an awesome person. And what it kind of reminds me of is these Yeti products that we use. It's also dependable. They hold up no matter what the conditions are You know you put something cold in on they stay cold you put some hot on them
Starting point is 00:58:30 They stay hot and just like Lydia that they got these Yeti luggage It's backpack that just happens to be sitting back here. It's got doubles, you know double sewn zippers on it and everything I've been lugging this thing all around gold course all week. So it's incredible What I love about Yeti the most is that they sponsor all of our LPGA content Throughout the entire year. We couldn't do this. We couldn't travel if it wasn't for Yeti. So thank you to Yeti like first and foremost and secondly Everybody go buy some at Yeti comm because if you want us to continue to support the best women golfers in the
Starting point is 00:59:06 world, Yeti's making it happen. So what do you think Lydia? I have nothing left to teach you. The student has become the master. That was a PhD little segue there, but no, in all sincerity, you know, I'm just looking back over Lydia Ko's week. She dropped six shots. She made six bogeys over the course of four rounds. No double bogeys. Just the epitome of steadiness and her weekend performance, as you mentioned yesterday, she was just super solid. Didn't make many putts, but was undeterred. And you roll forward to today and she did drop the shot on 15,
Starting point is 00:59:46 but we saw Nelly get in trouble. We saw Nelly make that inexplicable double on 16 in the third round. You know, Lillia made a double and dropped some shots. It just was in hindsight, right? It's easy to see, but like it was Lydia the whole time, wasn't it? She was just truly unflappable and played the exact style of golf that wins you an open championship at the old course. I'm it's so impressive.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Yeah. It's double bogeys out there that that'll get you in. That's definitely what changed the outcome of this AIG women's open. It's it's I'm also, I'm also sorry because I still have radio stuff on the brain and you get used to saying, you have to say certain things so you say the entire tournament name and you know when you say full name. You want to do the old school scene? I feel like we just need to cuss to get back into the contest mode.
Starting point is 01:00:40 You have to think so hard about what you're gonna say and how you're gonna say it. It's running coursing through my brain right now. But the defining moment today of this major championship, the entire golf tournament knew when Nellie doubled 14. And it was like, you know, I was, I was a group behind her, but we were a good half a hole, almost a whole hole behind because GIs like painfully slow. And I know we're going to talk about slow play with Jenny and Nellie's group as well. But it's just like, as soon as that double happened, we were lucky that there's a leaderboard
Starting point is 01:01:21 right next to the putting green and Lily like turned and was looking at the leaderboard and she's like, wow, like she thought that she was still like three behind and she's like, I'm going to win this major championship. Yeah. And her and Cole, like they gave each other like this look of like, we're going to go take this thing and stormed off to the next tee. We were on 13 at the time, stormed off to 14, birdied 14, got to 15, and then it's just like her ball striking went away.
Starting point is 01:01:51 And that's like really what the defining moment of it was. When Lydia needed to hit the shots, execute the shots that matter coming down the stretch, she did that with precision. And she deserves to win this championship because it wasn't the big number took out Nelly Korda but for the other really two chasers Lilia Vu and Ji-Hye Shin it was ball striking like you can't put yourself trying to make you know 55 60 footers for birdie when you're trying to
Starting point is 01:02:18 make up you know space like that. Yeah and I think what's gonna get overlooked too you know Lily excuse me uh, excuse me, Lydia, Lillia, this is where I don't want to confuse them. Yeah. Lydia Co. You know, she missed the green at 16, right? Coming off, as you said, that bogey on 15, that was a huge spot. And she calmly got that up and down, hit an excellent chip shot to, I don't know what,
Starting point is 01:02:42 three feet and then the road hole. Yeah. the excellent chip shot to, I don't know what three feet. And then the road hole. Yeah. It's not going to be a birdie, but the conditions had deteriorated at that point. It was pissing Cody knows he was out there. It was pissing rain sideways and she's playing the most difficult hole on the course tied for the lead and has a, has a fairway wooden. I mean, that's the other thing. We're gonna get into like the,
Starting point is 01:03:07 how it played, how wonderful this course is with the distances that the women play it at, but needing to hit a fairway wood into 17 and she hits just the perfect shot. It lands short, it skirts the road hole, rolls up there and it's a stress-free par. Obviously birdie's 18. It just was so, so, so impressive.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Solly, I want to ask you, you know, in our deep dive podcast to start the week, we had went into Lorena Ochoa won the first open championship here at the old course. Stacey Lewis won the second. Lorena is a hall of famer. Stacy is a very important person in the women's game. Looking at the men's side, you got tiger, you got Jack, you got Seve. How, how cool and how important it is. How like it seems like winning the open here is a general, like it's a
Starting point is 01:04:01 marker for a generational talent. And I think that's, that's what's so cool about Lydia because that is what she has been. And now it's like, she put the explanation point on it. Honestly, I hate to like say it this way, but the more I've thought about it since it happened was like Lydia needed this win badly. Like two major Chevron and Evian
Starting point is 01:04:22 cannot be the only two majors that Lydia wins in her career. Totally agree. Her resume is, her impact on the game is that much better and not in like a, you know, just a hype way, right? It's not like she was supposed to be a prodigy. I hate to make this comparison, but not like Michelle Wee, right? Whose career I don't think, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:41 never really was fully realized. Lydia had a fully realized career extremely early on. It just didn't have the major resume to back it. Now you want a gold medal and you go in at the old course, three majors, it almost validates the other two and makes them feel a lot more real now. And this week was such a, just an exacting test of golf. It was everything I could ever want out of a golf course
Starting point is 01:05:02 and especially the old course. I think when the men go to the old course, it is bomb and gouge, driver flip wedge, a lot of bunkers aren't in play, even with a lot of the tee boxes. And it's like, dude, I still love when they go there because I still think it's the most fun golf course in the world.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Would love to see them get the conditions the women actually got this week, but it is not the complete set of tests that this this championship was and there's just so many shots and that's what is so it's kind of I don't know what the what the video game is called is it is it monkey run is that like a phone game or something where you gotta like temple run temple run temple run where you gotta like run this is an ad you gotta like run this crazy gauntlet of challenges and like you never get to stop.
Starting point is 01:05:46 That's what the old course is. And I was like, Nellie ran most of it. That was the hardest thing for me to like digest today. It was like, do what she did between, she bogeyed the sixth hole, but what she did between five through 11. When the wind was really whipping out on that extended part, she had these downwind putts
Starting point is 01:06:01 that like she had to play really delicately and trust that the wind was gonna get it to the the hole and they did and they kept falling in. Made long birdie putts on, you know, after, you know, she was putting from 130 feet or something like that on five, but two putted that, seriously, two putted that one, made the birdie on seven, did what she did around nine and 10. It was like, that's her tournament, man. And it just, it's not even like the old course tripped her up. That's the really the part that has to sit so uncomfortable. It felt self-inflicted, didn't it?
Starting point is 01:06:28 Yes, it was, it was, man. It was just like, Lillia made a fantastic pitch into the 14th hole that was not, ended up making her birdie, gained three shots on Nellie on that hole alone. It's just, it was not the hardest shot that really got her. And she made bogey on the road hole as well, or like, you know, it's just, um, it was not the hardest shot that really got her. And, um, she made bogey on the road hole as well. But at that point it was,
Starting point is 01:06:48 it was still pretty close to being too late. So let me ask you this on Lydia going back to Lydia. I think it's worth at least discussing just wondering how much golf she has left. Right. And with the gold medal now with the open championship, like I'm confident he's going to play out the rest of the year, but beyond that, who knows, Cody? I, you know, it, it certainly, I think this could be the last time we see Lydia at the old course as a, you know, as a active professional golfer.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Yeah. Well, that's part of it. You know, the funny thing that the RNA does is that they don't really announce the venues that far in the, like in the future. So that's something, you're right, she already said that she would not be in the Olympics again. So that's at least four, in four years from now, she does not plan on playing professional golf anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Because she 100% would qualify for New Zealand unless I'm missing some barn burner that's gonna come out in the next four years. But I think you know coming into this week there's like three situations that were dream world situations of what would happen. The first and foremost I think if you ask anybody who attended this event it would have been some form of redemption for Charlie Hall last year at Walden Heath You know She finished solo second and for her to win here at st Andrews and the history and everything the plate I think that would probably have been number one
Starting point is 01:08:19 Number two would have been Lydia Coe and I didn't realize, I guess, how big of a deal it would be, but there's a lot of countries out there besides the United States that put a ton more weight behind the Olympics than we do. And it's one of those moments where being around people and talking about it that aren't really like in, I guess, our golf bubble that like, you know, that the Olympics, the golf competition side of it like yeah obviously we have our gripes and complaints about it. What what it is is it's putting golf on a platform to countries that are expanding their growth their golf programs are developmental programs. Really making it so there's so many people else that are getting into the game and she's like the perfect role model for that. And I would say just cause I'm going down them, the third option would have been,
Starting point is 01:09:10 you know, Nellie quarter winning her second major of the year after this unbelievable run. I saw a comment in here earlier from somebody, uh, Jim freighter in the chat is, is tuning in and saying that Nellie is overrated. Well, I wouldn't exactly go that far because one hell of a season and everybody cools off and it's almost impossible to keep that momentum going for that long, but she flat out made mistakes.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Like in, at a place like St. Andrews where like you cannot make mistakes at the distance that they hit the ball, the trajectory that they are hitting ball, the trajectory that they are hitting these shots into these greens, she just got exposed. And I'm pretty sure she knows that. So, yeah, let's, let's talk about Nellie then, because it's a fascinating conversation, I think, and, and Sally, I'll ask you first, you know, we talked
Starting point is 01:10:02 about some self-inflicted errors that she had that ultimately proved to be the difference, but she still finished Tide for second. She had a great week, right? But we just, she carries so much expectations. Is that fair? And like, does this like, why does this feel so disappointing with Nelly? It's kind of, is it, is it fair? It depends on how you want to look into that, right? Because we tune into these tournaments to see who's going to win them, right? And it's the what's the lasting memory of them is going to be, did you execute the shots needed, you know, in the, in the highest pressure to win the championship, right? And that did not happen, right? And I think we all in the media, everyone in the media tends to have, you know, you zoom in on whoever finished second. This feels a little bit like Rory at Pinehurst, honestly, in terms of, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:58 combo of Rory at the old course and Rory at Pinehurst. Like, dude, you remember what Rory did in the middle of that round? It was it was incredible incredible dude. He was making the putts. He was the dude that was like, I am asserting myself in this championship. I've had my majors on Sundays when I've just kind of withered away and not been a factor, but I'm a factor now. And he just did two horrifically dumb things coming in. Same exact thing with Nellie. I mean, it was, she did the hard parts and then just did not execute which needs to win the championship. She had some good quotes afterwards, basically high road and saying I'll take a lot of good that comes from this.
Starting point is 01:11:30 But it just, there's just very few people in golf on the men's or women's side that when they get the lead, we know it's done deal. It's almost, I don't know if there's any, I don't know if there's any currently in golf. There was one that did it for a very long time and screwed up how we think of a lot of these things, but it, you know, she just, it's gonna sound way easier when I say it like this, but all she needed to do was play it even par
Starting point is 01:11:55 from the middle of 13 fairway on it. Or hitting a pitch shot from 14 in, a par five and a reachable. Four at the 18th, I know there's some hard holes in between there, but play it even from there and it's all yours and I just I cannot understand what happened on that 14th hole so Cody can I put you on the spot a little bit of course Nellie you know she makes a seven today on the 14th she
Starting point is 01:12:19 made famously what a ten at the women's, uh, the U S women's open earlier this year. She made a bunch of sevens at the Olympics. Like, do you, I just find myself solid to your point, like when Nellie's going well, they're in the middle of a round today, I still don't really have just the utmost confidence in her. And I'm wondering, Cody, if you feel that same way and like, is it just a matter of she's not able to control the damage when things start going a little sideways? Yeah, we talked about this in both the Olympic recap show, talked about it after the end of the US women's open. It's like, you know, Nellie is fine until there's, there just happens to be like this one little tiny paper cut.
Starting point is 01:13:07 And before you know it, that paper cut has turned into like this massive just bleeding that cannot be contained and nobody has a tourniquet and like, holy shit, that escalated quick. Holy cow, what the hell is going on? She got that going on right now and it ain't fun. And you know, I've been. Can I pause this just to say though,
Starting point is 01:13:26 she survived two lacerations. Like Saturday, that back nine Saturday, I thought she was cooked. Yeah, you're right. I thought she was cooked. But people, you know, people at the end of Saturday, I think, you know, her birdieing 18, like really reset her.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Because she had a very poor back nine you're right and I think the birdie on 18 really like you know sneakily nobody really talked about Nellie around here yesterday like yesterday afternoon when the round was done and I was like what are we doing like people think that like she's like out of this tournament she's too back. Like, this isn't crazy. And I thought, you know, that she was going to come out and like take control of this tournament. And that's, you know, she kind of did. She had a birdie on five and then got to six with that, you know, a bad bogey and then immediately bounce back and birdied
Starting point is 01:14:20 eight or birdied seven hadn't and, know got to birdied nine excuse me and uh you know it just it's just like she can't control it it's a it's a traffic jam it's a snowball that just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger and the next thing you know you can see it in her eyes like that's the bad thing about is that you like he has this look of like oh man like it's it's not like really happening again it's like it's just happening and you're like you feel horrible for because she did everything right this week you know I think nobody nobody talked about the fact that like she changed her putter
Starting point is 01:14:59 after how amazing she's putted so far this year until Thursday morning on radio. And Randy and I were talking about it. And then all of a sudden you got the big J's finally in the press conference. She was asking questions about the putter change and she's like, yeah, it's very simple, like it's very, it's windy. The greens are a lot slower than I'm used to playing. I needed more weight in a putter and the, you know, this, the mallet that she switched to provided her weight and she could keep her same stroke and they
Starting point is 01:15:28 would roll the same ways that it would roll back at home for her practicing. And she wouldn't have to change anything. And I was like, wow, through the first two rounds, I was like, what a genius decision, you know, I don't see anybody else who you usually talk about like wedges and everything else like that. Nope, not for Nellie. She's like, I know I need need to I need to bake putts and this is how I'm gonna do it And I figured out you know, the new piece of equipment that's gonna help me do that But I feel the most comfortable and I was like, yeah, you got it going on
Starting point is 01:15:57 but you know what you guys haven't talked about yet is that I Really wanted Nellie to win this event because I think it'd be great for the women's game but as soon as I saw her this morning and I saw like saw saw the look I was like this ain't happening because Nike absolutely screwed her giving her black waterproof pants and took the burgundy away I think yes can I can I leave this on a bit of a positive note when it comes to Nelly though of like, man, this was like the term that I needed her to be in
Starting point is 01:16:33 and compete and hit the shots and, you know, and she did that for 98% of it, right? This was a proper, proper, proper test. And if she'd have got, you know, if she'd have missed the cut here, I'd have been very, very, very concerned. Right. As much as we're zooming in on how it did not happen for her at the end,
Starting point is 01:16:51 like that was one of the realest tests we'll ever see on the men's or women's side in terms of what is demanded of a golfer. And she handled so much of it really, really, really well. Perfectly said. And I'm glad you did say that because Cody and I were talking last night before we went to bed. You know, it's almost like the Logan Roy from succession. Like if you didn't make the cut this week in these conditions and you're on this. Yeah, I don't want to hear. We just can't consider you serious at this moment. And not only didn't Nellie make the cut,
Starting point is 01:17:24 but sorry to your point, like she played really well for serious at this moment. And not only didn't Nellie make the cut, but sorry to your point, like she played really well for most of this tournament. And so it's not like she's unserious. It's not like, you know, in our parlance, she's not a fluffer. She, there's just something weird going on where it does feel though, like she. Somehow lacks a killer instinct, but then it's like, well, she's won six times and one five times. It's like, well, she's won six times and won five times.
Starting point is 01:17:46 It's like, it's just all these juxtapositions and honestly it's fascinating. Like it, it really is. So I mean, you're right. I don't know where I net out. We want to say, you know, we talked a lot this year, the similarities between Scotty and Nellie, but really like at the end of the day, it's Rory and Nellie who have way more in common. They would, they win in buckets and those are great wins.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Don't get me wrong. They're just not the wins that like we kind of want from our capital P, you know, proper players. Um, and that, that stinks because she's, she has an amazing season going. I will say that there is some things that she can look at as she goes about. Like she does not have like a crazy good Lynx golf record. And you know, this is definitely her best performance. She probably could look at skipping the Scottish,
Starting point is 01:18:43 but I understand this year because of the Olympics and, you know, there's a lot going on and then I think back to it. I'm like, well, she didn't play like anything else in July. The last of the only event outside of like preparing for the Olympics was the Evian, she didn't play good at the Evian. And then before that in June, she missed every cut. She missed three cuts in a row. So those three missed cuts of T 26. And then if you go look at her results, they missed every cut. She missed three cuts in a row. So those three missed cuts of T 26.
Starting point is 01:19:06 And then if you go look at her results, they're all wins. So it's hard to poke a lot of holes in it. Yeah. Well, let's, uh, I think Nellie's going to continue to be fascinating. I can't wait to see her the rest of the year. I want to talk about Lily of who for a few minutes. I, you know, that, that last little hiccup on 18, Sally, you said cost her close to $300,000. That's super, super unfortunate for
Starting point is 01:19:33 her. I was shocked that she left that first putt that short. I, I would have bet all the money in my bank account that she was going to give that a run. So that's disappointing. But I do think Lilia, like she instills more confidence in me than Nellie, I think. Like today coming down the back nine, I always kind of felt like it was going to be Lilia. She, and fair or not again, like I just feel like she has a knack for that birdie put on 12 that she, that she ran in, like she had no business making that birdie put and coming off two bogeys. Like, I feel like she has a knack for just finding that birdie when she absolutely has to, and I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:22 I just, she kind of remains a killer in my mind, even though she comes up short, but I mean, hell of a title defense. So do you feel that way about Lily? Like straight up, who do you kind of have more confidence in down the stretch? I want to first give credit to you, Big. You have been steadfast in whenever like we slip up and are not talkingillia enough, you will plant your flag and say, like, don't forget about Lillia, don't forget about Lillia. So credit to you on that one. Second, like, all right, this is maybe too much of an excuse to give her,
Starting point is 01:20:56 but I saw the look in her eyes on 17 while she's waiting of the absolute frustration in pace of play of when you are playing with a very slow player and I think they were put on the clock confirmed where they put that final group. We're not put on the clock. People on Twitter were saying that they were but I mean the final group is finished out on 18 and GA Shin is taking forever with her third shot there and Lily was standing up
Starting point is 01:21:19 right by the road hole bunker. She's looking at her like watching this unfold leaning on her putter like looks down the 18th hole. And it was like, I know that feeling of like, fuck we're behind and it's not my fault, but I'm the only one that cares about this thing. And it's the worst place to be on a go. It's, it is so unnerving.
Starting point is 01:21:35 And like the only way to explain the putt on 18 is like she was unnerved, right? Like she was taken out of that moment. And I did not, there's some pace stuff that was going on that I think is st. Andrews and conditions more driven than it was slow players but then there's also like very clearly when that group fell behind it was very clearly GHN that was causing that and it's really unfortunate that again it's too much of an excuse to say that cost Lily of the championship and maybe a little bit over dramatic but it played a factor because she just looked
Starting point is 01:22:04 kind of I Don't want to say lifeless on the back nine just like hurt. She did not look locked in She did not seem locked in she got visibly frustrated on an approach out on a 16 I think she swore at it and the broadcasts like it wasn't pleased with that one It just was like that didn't seem like the, a typical Lillia attitude with three holes left in a major championship. And again, maybe I'm projecting all that pace stuff, but it looked like it had, it played a role
Starting point is 01:22:32 in how she handled that finishing stretch. It was just unfortunate. Definitely did, definitely did. See, they were very chatty on the front nine on their way out. And by the time we came, you know, wrapped back around and got to 12T, it was a completely different story. There's no longer chatty and I, you know, it's easy to say, oh, yep, you know, we're on our final nine, we're coming home in a
Starting point is 01:22:55 major championship, but it's, I want to point out the GI was attempting to continue conversations and Lillio was not having any of it. Yo man, we gotta go. We gotta get this thing going. She's a killer. This is not the way this is going to go down. And, uh, she had enough of it. And I'll say it, I think it definitely affected her on 10 and 11. 11 is such a tough par three.
Starting point is 01:23:23 And. You know, she hit a shot that was way too spinny. She knew the contact was off. And when she watched it float just way too far right, she knew that that was gonna be trouble from there. But unforced, three putt. And I think really when we got down to it, you talked about the 16th hole
Starting point is 01:23:43 and she had a really good lot lie in that rough left a 16 and it was on a little bit of an upslope and she almost like It looked like she got like crazy steep likes just kind of straight up chunked it and It was this a high weird spinner and was helped a little bit by the wind pushing it more high weird spinner and was helped a little bit by the wind pushing it more right to left than it probably should have, but left herself way too big of a leave there. And you know, GIs just kind of making a mess of things. And that's really like, it was kind of chilly between the two then.
Starting point is 01:24:19 And then that's when it was like, yo man, like, let's go. I'm trying to grind on shit and like be in this tournament and you know it just wasn't happening by the time we got to 17 though I think Lillian knew she looked at the scoreboard she knew where Nellie was at and she knew what she had to do on 17 and just you know left that those two putts like he said short coming. It's just such a disappointment. I know she felt that Cole felt it. He was like, he was very chatty on the back nine, which is interesting.
Starting point is 01:24:52 I thought it was because like Lillia was no longer talking to him. But I think he was just trying to let stress out. Another fun thing of like when you're in the ropes and you're like walking right next to him, he is one that's just like, you know, we'll talk and just tries to keep it as chill and relaxed and tries to relax her when she was, you know, sitting there like dig and deep for it. Yeah. I, a few things to add.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Lillia has a bad back. And if you want to talk about the two things that are terrible when you have a bad back, it's cold weather and then just standing around, just waiting. Right. And so I'm sure that plays a little bit of a factor. I'll also maintain, I think it was probably a bad break that her drive hit the road on 18. It was.
Starting point is 01:25:40 And bounced up as close to the green as it did. I think she would much rather have a full swing wedge into 18 than having to play that little 32 yard pitch shot. So that's unfortunate. She should have not have hit that pitch shot. There are so many other options and she's pulled those shots off all week and I could not believe that she took it tried to hit it that high and like in the from that position you just yeah that's not not gonna happen yeah yeah sorry I fully expect to hit that shot tomorrow I guarantee you my drives gonna hit end up right there and I'm gonna be like oh I'm gonna hit this you know high floaty nipper or something like that probably blow in the grand
Starting point is 01:26:23 stalley saying putter would you give thought to putter? A hundred percent I would. Yeah. Are you first time playing the old tomorrow, Cody? It is. That's great news. First time on the old tomorrow for the, well, for me, but the big fella, you know, he's going to hold my hand around here. Yeah. So I don't know. I, Lily is, Lily is great. I just think she's dude, she is a freaking fighter. I feel like she's got more killer, maybe the most killer tendencies of anybody out on the LPGA tour right now. And I thought we, she showed flashes of that. Just real quick on that too, like just pausing like almost both Nellie and Lillia almost just got into the club that that Lydia just got into. Yeah, yeah. Like the three major clubs.
Starting point is 01:27:06 Yeah. It's hard to knit too close, like pick too closely. I mean, Lillia won two majors last year. This would have been another year with a major win, any year where she's battled injuries. It's just, you know, it's just worth highlighting how both Lillia and Nellie in playing this good of golf, number one, number two in the world, both with the chance to win the back night at the old course. Like this was, it was a fricking awesome golf tournament, man. It was the venues,
Starting point is 01:27:32 the venues matter, man. They really, really, really do. And yeah, it was just incredible to watch from the jump on Thursday. I mean, it was, uh, I'm sure in person, you guys are just buzzing. Yeah, no, I mean, it truly was that solid. Like they were in that goes back to Thursday, right? When they put Lillia, Charlie and Nellie all together. I'm thinking, ah, God, they've just jinxed it. Like no way they're all three going to play well, but those three
Starting point is 01:27:58 balled out the first two rounds. And so from the jump, this event was awesome. And with Charlie Hall being the first round leader, like it just, it checked every box throughout the week and the conditions were always present. The course played amazing. It feels elevated, like kudos to the RNA. Like we get to do radio that they have radio wall to wall radio coverage at this event. It's this is it, man.
Starting point is 01:28:24 In the women's game, like, it feels like the US Open and the British Open are lifting and separating from the other three majors. And yeah, it's venues, it's build out, it's everything like that. I don't want to get out of this discussion with at least recognizing Ronny Yin and she battled her fucking ass off.
Starting point is 01:28:48 21 years old. Like she showed me this week, like she's amazing, like she's every bit deserving to be among the world class. And like, we need to be talking about her when we get to serious events, bad side of the draw, hung in there. Like her, her play coming down the stretch. She burned edges on 16 and 17, needing birdies to try to catch the lead. She was the one like outside of Lydia today that I come away with thinking like,
Starting point is 01:29:16 holy shit, what a day she had. I don't know, Sally, if that really came through on TV or not, but I just need to call her out as well. You're baiting me into TV stuff that I'm not ready to do just yet. Let me sing her praises. I think, you know, we talk about the draw and how difficult it was. That first day, we all knew, we talked about it in the happy hour. We knew that it was going to be frisky and she went out and shot 68 in that weather and was like, wow, that's crazy good. Only matched by Charlie, which Charlie went out in the afternoon and it was completely different playing conditions there. But Ronnie hung in there, shot even par second round, one over yesterday. And
Starting point is 01:30:01 then that 70 today when like really, you know, she wasn't in the conversation She forced herself to be in the conversation. She's already a major champion Like I'm right there with you big big big big time stuff Is there anything else before I think we need to talk about the course? We need to do a little hamster damn and everything But let's let's shout out some people here as we scroll down this leaderboard Yeah, can we do like a little in honor of TC? Is there like little music we can play or anything? Good to see a area Jutanigarn. Honestly, you know, major champion, former number one.
Starting point is 01:30:36 That's like somebody made the point on Twitter, like the top six finishers on this leaderboard have all been world number ones at some point. It's, it's just ridiculous. And I think again, points out like, Hey, you want to talk about a venue that brought out the best of the best? Uh, there's, there's your evidence. I had five names, so I'll go through them very quickly. Actually T7 was Cassandra Alexander, like had never finished better than 72nd in a major champion, a late qualifier
Starting point is 01:31:05 into this event, a career week for her. So kudos to her, the South African. I have Alexa Pano, Cody, you've been on her block. I was super impressed. I thought she was going away Saturday. She did not. I thought she was going away today. She hung in there, just turned 20 years old, very excited about her future.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Uh, Angel Yin is somebody, obviously we're all big fan of Angel. in there, just turned 20 years old, very excited about her future. Uh, Angel Yin is somebody, obviously we're all big fan of Angel. Um, I think she showed enough for sure to be a captain's pick for the Solheim cup. She finished T12 and coming off a T2, her last start in Portland has experience, like she answered the bell this week, hat tip to her. And she's somebody else that's told us in the past, Cody, like, I want to play hard courses. Why don't they set up courses harder on the LPGA tour?
Starting point is 01:31:54 And we get to a hard course and she plays good golf. Like back to Logan Royce. She's a serious person. Um, last two Lynn Grant, God, I wish she could have had a better opening round because it seemed like she was starting to play better every single day. Her fit was like, do the kids still say like on fleek? Is that a word? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Let me see if Jordan, let me see if Jordan's around. Yeah, bring Jordan in. Jordan said no, no, no, no, no longer on fleek. Okay. We're not saying on fleek. Uh, she inexplicably doubled 18 on Thursday, like the first person ever in this event on the women's side to double 18. So props to her. And then that's incredible. Charlie Hall.
Starting point is 01:32:34 I don't know if you guys want to talk about Charlie Hall. I mean, disappointing weekend. I don't know. Maybe we just chalk it up to, she didn't have it. Maybe it's the pressure. I don't know, Cody, is there anything more to read into Charlie I mean we talked about her start right 67 72 75 75 that's that just ain't it but you know she made the big mistake that you can't do around the old course and that's hit it in these bunkers it's kind of the same thing I know it's it's taken off since but roses in the same boat you know you can't hit these bunkers and expect to act like it's some
Starting point is 01:33:08 You know, of course in the middle of michigan where you can just advance whatever club out of it You're gonna be fine. You gotta learn how to play it and uh, that just clearly wasn't the case Disappointing though charlie a lot of people around here super disappointed because the weird thing is that she ended up finishing at one over Georgia finished at two over and a lot more people were more bullish on Georgia than they were on Charlie Georgia obviously had a huge miss up Saturday shot 76, but I'll say this after watching golf this weekend as An American fan for the Solheim Cup, I am scared shitless because the European squad is like operating on full cylinder right now. You're at Carlota, which again, I'm surprised
Starting point is 01:33:55 when we talk about pace of play, her name usually comes up. Absolute killer. It's just like even Leona like Leona a little bit of form. Albae, Venom, your way, like came out of nowhere shot 66 on Saturday. Like it's one of those things where I had a couple of run-ins with, uh, captain Suzanne Pedersen and it's funny because she's like, oh yeah, I'm monitoring, you know, monitoring my team, uh, and how they're doing this weekend. Fully knowing that like everybody around her is like, Oh, her picks have already been done. Like it's honestly the play. The play doesn't really matter. She's dead solid, like rock solid locked in with the team that they have.
Starting point is 01:34:34 I guess they're already aware of it into a blue trappings picks. So I'm sorry for the people, I guess, who listen to this, who haven't been talked to. It didn't make the team. Whoops. That's eventually going to happen. Whereas shit, I didn't make the team. Whoops, that's eventually gonna happen. Whereas obviously, you know, Stacey's going about it a different way. So we'll see what happens, but man, Team Europe absolutely on fire right now.
Starting point is 01:34:55 And you look at the team that they took last year, it'll probably be like Gemma, Dry Bird's probably not gonna be on that team. And I'd say Caroline and Hedwall going to be the two really that stick out. You have so many options of others. Like Linnea Strom is in the picture now. Like she won a couple of weeks ago, had a good finish here. Like it's somebody who can go deep.
Starting point is 01:35:17 And I think like, when you talk about a soulheim cup, you want somebody who's like going to make a ton of birdies. Yeah, you're right. And I think we can, well, I'd be shocked if Esther Henslite didn't, like she has to have one of those Gemma or a headwall. Right. So she's one of the new ones in. And so it really comes down to that last pick.
Starting point is 01:35:37 I will say though, like look at the Americans, Angel, Nellie, Lilia, like they're, it's going to be a good Solheim cup here in a couple of weeks. Couple other shout outs I'll say before, as we continue down this leaderboard. I didn't expect Lexi to play the golf that she did. She fucking battled her ass off and fully knowing that this is not only the last time she'll be at the old course playing in AIG women's open, but more than likely the last AIG Women's Open ever, you know, she hung tough and she got that fight. And for somebody who is like pending retirement right now, I just didn't expect her to be
Starting point is 01:36:14 like grinding it out the way that she was, which makes me think of like, are we going to see her more than we imagine? Like is she just saying that she's not going to play a full season, but she's going to be very selective at these big time events and she's going to show up to really have no idea. I was surprised to see the wave on the bridge. Uh, I was, I was surprised by this. I thought it was, I thought the whole thing was like, no, she's going to play
Starting point is 01:36:40 majors. Um, I don't know what she'd need to do to qualify. I'm sure it would be just don't think she likes traveling. You know, she doesn't even play like the Evian. So I'm sure she's like, uh, who was it a couple of years ago? Bubba when he's like, ew, they have weird food. Like I'm sure he's just, she just doesn't like British fare. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Um, all right. Shout outs real quick, Sally, cause you said venues matter. I want to tell people next year this event is going to Royal Porthcrawl in Wales. Our guy Marcus Buckland who we worked with all week, we're like, yeah, what's that going to be? Better weather than this? He's like, honestly, I went a couple of years ago for the senior opening.
Starting point is 01:37:17 He was like, it's biblical. Yeah. He's like, that's the worst conditions I've ever encountered. Cool. Got that to look for. Then we know in 2026 it's going to Royal Lithum and St. Anne's. Solly, I you know all these. Yeah, what's you that's good, right? Oh, very good. Very very good. Porthcall is great for the women's game like the I don't think the men's game would fit on. I've never been to Porthcall, but I think it's a I've seen I've watched the senior open there. I've seen enough of that golf course.
Starting point is 01:37:44 I've really it's a probably a top 10 or 15 course in the world that I wanna play that I haven't been to. Like it should be, it should be really cool. It doesn't have the same gravitas, obviously, as some of these other courses that are on the men's road, but a worthwhile thing to do. Come on over with us next year. You're not gonna be busy.
Starting point is 01:38:01 You have so many kids though, man. I know, I know. Hey, the other thing that we need to talk about, I think I'm going to bring JP in because, uh, you know, obviously very, very happy to have JP part of the team here, but she's like the expert when it comes to, uh, the amateur game. I'm going to do my best to buffer her background noise here. Um, but, uh, let's talk about the Smith Salver Lottie Wode hell of a year. Obviously one at Anwar has competed in almost every major. I'm pretty sure this year, but ends up winning the Smith-Dalvar. Lottie Wode, hell of a year. Obviously won an Anwha, has competed in almost every major I'm pretty sure this year, but ends up winning the Smith-Dalvar award by a pretty good margin. JP? Yeah, I first of all, I just want to flex a little because I was totally all in on
Starting point is 01:38:41 from Friday onward and She did it. But anyway. Just really going out on a limb there with the number one ranked woman in the world too. Okay, when Luis Reiquist shoots a bogey free 67 and someone named TC, you know, makes me feel a little bit bad for picking Lottie,
Starting point is 01:39:04 I just have to put that out there. So, um, Nevermind. If you want to stunt on TC, please take a few more minutes. Take all the time you want. Okay. Yeah. No, but, um, yeah, just a tremendous year for Lottie.
Starting point is 01:39:18 I think, I think in watching her since Anwar, I've grown to really, really appreciate the kind of golf she plays because I think it's a game that's going to end up translating extremely well professionally. The versatility of the courses that she's performed well on, her, you know, she's... Let me just put this into better context. Wins at Augusta National, won at Carnoustie a few years ago, now is the low M at the old course. That's some serious stuff. Not only that, she is playing like a you know an obviously a very respectable amateur schedule but she's going up against the best like in the women's game and holding her own and not even holding her
Starting point is 01:40:13 own like making people ashamed of themselves. Yeah there's I there's times where I struggled to really understand just how well the litmus test called golf can be for on the women's side specifically, and the courses they play and kind of the style of golf they're generally playing in college golf. And I think Lottie is someone who kind of supersedes all of that and is just has such a very good experience. I mean, gosh, I got I got to watch her a little bit today just passing through just kind of checking out some of the conditions up on the back nine and I just watched her pipe it on
Starting point is 01:40:53 14 which was not an uncommon thing for her to do I just really wasn't surprised I was like cool it's just lotty gold stuff into like what like 35 mile per hour gusts it felt like sweet, um and so I remember I asked her in In quick quotes afterward today I was like if you just always kind of been that way like it did and what kind of give you that boost to keep Being so confident and so aggressive and she's like well, I've kind of always been that way I mean, she's like I you know I tried to tailor it back to be a little bit smarter
Starting point is 01:41:29 but she's like she's like honestly I was focusing on the people ahead of me not behind me and then I asked her did you come into this weekend trying to win this and she's like why not there was nothing to lose and. Sorry. Yeah, I do have like major concerns, though, not about her game at all, but like her swing. I feel like her back could be in for a reckoning there and how like the position that she's in and impact and then really like her coming through. It seems like she arches her back so hard.
Starting point is 01:42:04 It literally the dad back and me saw you have to feel this too. It like sends like shivers down my spine. I'm like, Oh my goodness. Hold on a second to be young again. I'm, I'm not smart enough to see that stuff. Uh, Jordan, I'll just say, I picked up on that too, watching her lotty today. Like she was legitimately pissed making bogeys, like it wasn't like, Oh, I'm just out here having fun.
Starting point is 01:42:29 I'm going to be low. I am like, she, she wanted to win the golf tournament and that was really cool to see. Yeah. I, there was a pretty deep emotional investment in this event. Uh, she touched on that a little bit after her round today, but on Friday specifically, I noticed there were a lot of birdie opportunities that she missed even though she had a good round. And she was visibly frustrated. And I didn't really see a ton of that during ANWWA week, so I found it to be pretty curious.
Starting point is 01:42:59 But she said, you know, this is the one that's been on her calendar that's been marked. She's been looking forward to this since she won ANWOC. You know, she basically kind of tailored her entire summer for this week and for the Curtis Cup. So this was kind of, and I thought, I love that. That was so refreshing to hear. Because I think you never really get into like a lot of these specifics of how amateurs are tailoring their summer, what they're doing, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:43:31 And I appreciated that because it, she kind of just, the way that she's talking, the way that she's performing, I'm just like, gosh, you were just really giving me like pro vibes. Like you are a legit number one. But sometimes, sometimes, sometimes I feel like the Viagra can be a little misleading. Okay. I had a hundred for sure. Yeah. We can get, we can get into that conversation another day, but, uh, she's
Starting point is 01:43:53 a legitimate number one and I honestly guys, I, I, I was familiar with Lottie Wode's game, but truly coming out of this week, I, I'm kind of a big Lottie Wode's game, but truly coming out of this week, I'm kind of a big Lottie Wode fan girl now. Like, I am all in on Lottie Wode, and I'm curious to see how she does next week at the Curtis Cup, because, I mean, not only is she a good match-play player, but I think the interesting part of it is her team is not favored. She might be the number one amateur in the world, but Gibi and I is not favored in the Curtis Cup. So I'm curious to see how much caring she might have to do, and how much it would benefit them.
Starting point is 01:44:33 It's just a tremendous week for her. I think after Saturday when Luis Reikers kind of played out of it, it kind of looked inevitable for Ladi, but today Julia Lopez-Ramirez kind of had a of it. It kind of looked inevitable for Lottie, but today Julia Lopez Ramirez kind of had a nice run this morning and then she bogeyed four holes in a row. I think it was like 14, 15, 16, and 17. So at that point it was Lottie's, but just a tremendous day from her. Yeah, I can't say enough good things about Pottie Walker. Yeah, you said't say enough good things about Connie Woker.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Yep, you said she's off to the Curtis Cup next week at Sunningdale. Captain by Katrina Matthew and surprisingly, you know, Katrina played in this Open Championship, missed the cut, retired, had had Lexi's moments on Friday on the Swilken Bridge, who would have thought. That was cool. They, Stacey Lewis, like kind of called her back to like, come, come, come. Scottish modesty. Yeah. She didn't, she did not want to do that. Um, Jordan, I just quickly get you out with this question. First time out of the country. Good trip. How'd you find Scotland? How'd you find St. Andrews? I've been really trying hard all week to not make the, my first time out of the
Starting point is 01:45:48 country being my one personality trait, but it's the one thing people have been asking me all week and I, I'm really kind of leaning into it, you know, I think. I came in to the week feeling really overwhelmed and just like hoping I, you know, to do a good job and that I would beat jet lag and all these things. And I, you know, I think there's just a sense of like warmness and excitement. And I think St. Andrew's really,
Starting point is 01:46:18 I was talking to someone about this. It kind of takes you, it kind of really removes you from modern life in the coolest way and my I'm I was just so into it, you know, and sometimes you need that and as as much as I much as I love the states and America and all that stuff. I I truly I love st. Andrews. I loved the old course.
Starting point is 01:46:45 I think it was even cooler than I could imagine. I wrote this in an article. I mean, first of all, I think people might've been concerned for me on Thursday as I was walking the course and I stared at one too many of hot bunkers. Like I was like transfixed and I think it one too many of hot bunkers like I was like Transfixed and I think it was probably really concerning that I was like, holy moly Like they're that deep there that I'm five to by the way, so like Jordan I was gonna say you know
Starting point is 01:47:18 You might never get out Jordan I got a question for you. I think, you know, you've been an excellent addition. We forced you to do a lot of firsts this week. So we kind of surprised you. We have to do a stage session here in the fan village and you know, everybody knew that Randy and I were going to do it, but we made Jordan go up there with us. You rocked it. Shout out to Richard, by the way. Yeah, shout out to Richard and the stage crew. And also Richard's buddy who we have to sell these and send. Do a King Lear in Dallas.
Starting point is 01:47:47 No, honestly, Richard's awesome. And you rocked it. And we forced you to come on radio. And I know uncomfortable it was, but you rocked it. Like truly, it's been incredible seeing you come into your own and not just, you know, do what you're really good at. And that's writing and everything else. So what are the people to expect? What are you writing about tonight? Because I'm curious. I am writing Lydia Ko.
Starting point is 01:48:19 And I don't know, I, Cody, we talked about this a lot, not on the last RPG episode we did before the deep dive. We talked about this a little bit in like how I could relate to Lydia Ko in the small ways that I can. I kind of see a lot of myself in her and like I appreciate just how forthcoming she is and how she's always kind of willing to give you that window into her soul a little. And I don't know, I could always, I could listen to her talk
Starting point is 01:48:50 all day, but certainly there's elements of Liliacos career and kind of this final part and the past year of it that I feel, you know, could tie into some of my own recent experiences. And so, yeah, that's gonna go deep into that. Kind of got in my feels when I saw, when I saw Lydia watching Lilia miss her putt on 18. I mean, she just kind of, it just, the biggest weight kind of fell off her shoulders. I mean, she was nervously kind of standing with her husband for some time and clutching onto him.
Starting point is 01:49:25 And I thought I just, I don't know, just seeing that in person was just so touching. It was awesome. Well, yeah, I agree. I can't wait to read what you get, but we'll let you out here and let you get back to writing as we continue to go down the leaderboard or get to Hampshire. No, we're not going down the leaderboard. Thank, thank you, Jordan. Uh, her piece will be up at no laying up.com ASAP. Quickly, quickly.
Starting point is 01:49:52 Can I share my favorite Lydia Ko quote from the week? Is it going to spoil your piece? Maybe a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Hold that. But that says a heck bit. Yeah. Yeah. Hold that. You got to keep that chambered. But that says a heck of a key.
Starting point is 01:50:07 If you want to read it, you can find that in the laying up. There you go. Expertise there, JP. Now we're going to save JP. Thank you. Um, before we wrap up and I want to wrap it, we got so much left to go. I hit a shank on live TV. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:50:23 I, you didn't let me finish. We're going to get into our radio experience and all the shit we did. So, Ollie, I do want to ask you, because my menshees were just blowing up. I hate to turn the tone of this conversation. KVV tagged you in a Louisville PD. It wasn't that. What was the coverage like back stateside? What was it like watching this event on television? Hold on. Guys, before we get there, I got some, Solly, I got some I need you to cover for me real quick. Okay.
Starting point is 01:50:52 Jordan said she loved hearing from Lydia Ko, hearing a lot of what she had to say. Why don't we bring in Lydia Ko to the show and congratulate the EG Women's Open Champion, Lydia Ko. Thank you guys. Crazy last few hours. I don't even know what's happening right now. Well, you're on. Go ahead, Rady. Yeah, no, Lydia, I mean, you played, we were talking about it earlier in the show,
Starting point is 01:51:20 you played the most consistent golf that the conditions and the course demanded of you all week. It was, you know, at the beginning of the week, it wasn't quite clear who was going to emerge, but by the end of this tournament, it was only going to be you. And my question to you is, if you could have picked one major and one course, I mean, could you have picked a better place than the old course this week? It just seems like the perfect place for you to capture your third major championship. Yeah. Um, honestly, I feel like these past three weeks have been, uh, I'm like a character
Starting point is 01:51:56 in the fairy tale. Um, too good to be true. You know, things happening again and again and again. Um, no, I, this is my second time playing at St. Andrews and I think when I first came here as a 16 year old I didn't really understand you know how historic and iconic this place is but now that I'm a little older I think I've gotten to realize like how amazing and how lucky I am just to be here and I just had so much fun and I think because it was so windy at times,
Starting point is 01:52:28 like all I could do was just laugh because I hadn't seen a ball react like that in the air. My warm-up session on Thursday was the most ridiculous warm-up session I've ever done before, teeing it up at a tournament. But here I am and to say that I just won the women's open It's I mean, it's crazy and even when I hold the pot on the 18th I don't think I realized like oh I could potentially win this thing Yeah, yeah what we saw you, you know, the TV picked you up coming down 18 You look just carefree you and Alexa were just the TV picked you up coming down 18. You looked just carefree. You and Alexa were just, it looked like you guys were just talking about whatever
Starting point is 01:53:09 you're talking about. I mean, how did you keep that at least outwardly? You looked so calm. What, what were those emotions like inside? I guess. Yeah. I said the 18th and first hole is the narrowest hundred yard fairway Because you know, it's so wide that like you really shouldn't miss it but then
Starting point is 01:53:34 She just say never say never right? But yeah, I've been paired up with Alexa quite a few times, you know over these past couple years and she's somebody that I really enjoy playing with and same for like Mr. Pano. But you know we were just enjoying it. We were laughing about how windy it was and you know I said like I'm probably not gonna be able to walk straight and I'm probably leaning in some direction now and yeah it's just uh I think we were like both just talking about this whole week as a whole. And I knew that I don't know when the Women's Open is returning here, but it always seems like it's a while till it rotates back. And I think by that time I probably won't be playing.
Starting point is 01:54:18 So this could potentially be my last time walking down over the bridge and down the 18th hole and yeah just to be able to finish off with a birdie you know on any championship 72nd hole is is a great feeling and for that to be the clinching shot for me to win is is pretty awesome. Yeah incredibly cool and and I know you mentioned the next time and and you're coming off your Olympic gold medal dad to your silver and bronze and it seems like You're you're playing such good golf right now and in our world in the media world Everybody is like well wins wins Lydia like retiring like why is she when she going away which seems so weird to me
Starting point is 01:55:02 Yeah, it's um, I think you know, I don't know at what age I said it, but I said, I want to retire when I'm 30. And somebody in the press conference asked me earlier this weekend, said, do you think it's a love hate relationship with golf? And I was like, of course. And some days just hate, hate, hate. And I mean, the day like today is just all love. But, you know, I mean, we all play this ball, you know,
Starting point is 01:55:30 one day you turn up and you feel great and you shoot 68, and then one day you shoot a 78, and it really wasn't that far different. So, you know, for me, I'm just enjoying this moment. But, you know, I've had my fair share of ups and downs. And I'm excited for these next three weeks just to be able to celebrate and take everything in and also just assess everything going forward. But this is not the last tournament I'm playing in.
Starting point is 01:55:58 There's still a lot of golf ahead. But I'm just excited for the future. And I'm excited for those you know, those questions about are you going to win a major again? Are you going to get in the Hall of Fame? All those things to be done. And I mean, August has been a hell of a month. Yeah, seriously.
Starting point is 01:56:15 That's an understatement. That's an understatement. Lydia, your day to day, I'm just wondering as you start to decompress a little bit, I mean, the shot that sticks with me, and I think the shot that will stick with me is, I assume it was maybe a three wood into 17 when the rain was sideways. What do you think your best shot out there was today?
Starting point is 01:56:36 Yeah, probably the 17th hole. It doesn't matter if you've got a 10 shot lead or you're from behind or you teed off first thing this morning or the last group out, the 17th hole is in your head. And it was in my head even before I teed off. But the good thing about having such a long distance in is that I knew that even if I smoked my three wood, it was never going to be long.
Starting point is 01:57:04 So the road was completely out of play, which was, you know, it was great to have that, you know, one part off. You know, it was raining and gray and I don't have very good eyesight anyway. So I just said, you know, I just got to put a solid, you know, contact on it and just commit to it and see what happens.
Starting point is 01:57:22 And for me to, you know to hit it on the same tier and make a pretty stress-free par in the end on that hole, I think that was probably the biggest sigh of relief. And that hole can get to you, but I parred it all four times this week and I think that's probably one of the biggest things that I'm proud of. Lydia, the old course at St. Andrews
Starting point is 01:57:45 is like a 20,000 piece puzzle, right? It's not, you know, you can't just sit down and solve it. You join an incredible list of champions on this golf course. What have you learned about this golf course that has allowed you to have the week where you beat all of the best players in the world? How would you describe the strategy
Starting point is 01:58:00 and the execution test of the old course? I think when I actually played here in 2013, the first day we had no wins and I came off the golf course thinking, no, this is like quite playable. You know, it's, uh, and it was very, um, comparative to Hoylake the year before. Um, and I was like, Oh, this is easy. No, I think I'm going to have a good week. And then Friday came and the weather God was like, oh, this is easy. You know, I think I'm going to have a good week. And then Friday came and the weather God was like, you're going to get humbled
Starting point is 01:58:30 real quick and it was some of the toughest conditions I had played in. And I think because that was so tough, you know, going forward, I never take, you know, a good sunny day for granted. I'm like, okay, this is Scotland. It could change in a heartbeat. And I think when we did get rain and wind, I was like, welcome to Scotland, they say. So I was just laughing over it.
Starting point is 01:58:57 But yeah, sometimes it was really difficult because I was aiming 50 yards left of where I wanted the ball to finish. And this with my shot shape, you know, the front line was hard sometimes to commit to aiming so far left because of the wind. But, you know, I think for the most parts, I really trusted my lines and I feel like my ball striking has improved this past couple months. And I think that really was crucial for me coming down the stretch in Paris and then definitely here with some,
Starting point is 01:59:29 you know, dramatic halls to finish. Well, we're going to let you go here. I know you got some celebrated to do, but do I hear you also have maybe some golf travel coming up soon, maybe kind of far away from where you are now, but similar style of play. Is that right? Yeah. I would, I have a, uh, couples golf trip to bend in June's next weekend.
Starting point is 01:59:50 I've personally never been there, heard a lot of amazing things about it. But, um, the, our friends sent us like a weather forecast and it looked very similar to the temperature and I'm pretty sure it's going to be windy. So at least I'm ready for it's gonna be windy so at least I'm ready for what's ahead but after that I'm excited to just see my ball curve less than like 20 yards left to right and yes you know it's just gonna be nice to have some time off and you know be home and spend some time with
Starting point is 02:00:21 my husband and my puppy as well. Awesome. That's awesome. Have an absolute blast. Guys, she's one of us. She's excited to go to band and I love it. Lydia, again, congratulations. 2024 AIG Women's Open. It's incredible.
Starting point is 02:00:39 You've had an incredible August, just like you said. In the Hall of Fame. Yeah, Hall of Fame. Have a month, why don't you? I should change my birthday to August. God that's so cool. Anyway, enjoy the rest of the night. Have some drinks. Enjoy your family and friends. But congratulations from all of us and thank you for joining us. Thank you Lydia. Thank you for having me. Yep, congratulations. Cheers. How about that, guys? That's pretty freaking cool. What a world. This is nuts. TC in here. Lydia's gonna be a big fan of trails. Of course, TC. Thank you for joining the program. Anybody else who wants to... This is at the moment of the show where I'm gonna start reading the
Starting point is 02:01:21 chat. Well, I was originally put an hour governor on this. And then we like we found out that Lydia was going to join the show. And I think we're all like, oh, we got to go. Like, come on. Another hour, baby. Let's go. I'm second. I was having a nightmare. I thought you were going to make me hamster damn while she's waiting in the background. Well, that's where Randy was going. I'm like, dude, I'm on cloud nine now. Like, I don't even want to ask you about that.
Starting point is 02:01:45 I don't want to kill the buzz. We listen. I think the coverage was what we all know and expected to be. Unfortunately, it's worse than that. That's the problem. Yeah. It just, yeah, it's, well, I'll say this. Okay.
Starting point is 02:02:03 So it was, it was worse than we expected it to be I'll say It's it's very interesting that the default excuse for a lot of the issues that you had saw in your viewing today and the people listening is Because it comes down to the world feed But I also know the like These are the same companies that are paying money for these rights and if they wanted their own feed They would invest in that and actually make it happen and that's not happening So I think we could go around and have the same conversation that we always have but it's just bad
Starting point is 02:02:38 I know you said what was that yesterday that they didn't even have audio for a while Yeah, the middle of the broadcast yesterday, they just lost their audio and then all of a sudden they picked up with what I assumed to be the Sky audio at a certain point. But it was, I mean, it was just like, as it got really action packed, at one point they went four golf shots
Starting point is 02:02:55 in between commercials and then like they were in commercial while Nello was hitting her approach into the 17th hole of the whole course. Like it's just like, again, they didn't show a shot on the 72nd hole of a major earlier this year, right? So it's not like the standard hasn't been set though. And it's just kind of is what it is and it's always gonna be.
Starting point is 02:03:13 And it doesn't mean, it just doesn't mean that like they get off the hook for us calling it out, right? That's where you wave the ultimate white flag of just like, you do not want me to mention like butchering one of the coolest golf tournaments I've watched this year. Like, I'm sorry, it has to at least be mentioned, but nothing new, no new ground to cover
Starting point is 02:03:30 other than just like really, really, really maddening. So, and then also throwing the trophy ceremony to Peacock and then have it not be there with the extra middle finger. Fuck. Yeah, chef's kiss there. Well, I don't wanna end on that note. Cody, this was, you know, last year we went to Walton Heath. We got to be a part of the IMG radio production for this
Starting point is 02:03:52 championship. For RNA radio. Yep, yep. And we had a blast. It was truly like the highlight of the year. And we walked out of there saying like, this is the week, like, we, we circled it on the calendar. And so here we are another week in the books. Just this, this is the best. It just is so much fun being part of the team. And I want to shout those guys out here in a minute, but what's, what's the one thing that you're going to take with you personally from, from our experience doing the radio, we did, we did a hit on Sky TV
Starting point is 02:04:26 earlier today. Like what's going to stick with you the most from this week? The one thing. Well, I mean, it's a lot. We could go down the leaderboard. You want to go down the leaderboard? You know, I wrote about, I wrote about St. Andrews in a gin and tonic, I think a couple of weeks back. That's also on nolayingitup.com if people want to go read the blog. We might need to buy No Laying It Up just to make sure it redirects to nolayingup.com.
Starting point is 02:04:54 Whispering, there's no it. There's no it. But in what world would me, Cody McBride, walk over the, the Swilkin Bridge on 18 with the final group with a chance to win a major championship, calling the radio on, you know, it's RNA radio, but it's out on, you know, BBC and, and Sirius XM and all over the world and like calling it and describing the situation at hand. And, and I'm sitting there and I'm like, what the hell, man? Like, you know, seven years ago, I was literally like living with like.
Starting point is 02:05:33 18 Kurdish dudes and like a hundred detainees fighting a war. And like, here I am and it's St. Andrews and I, that's where I convinced my wife who knows nothing about golf to go on our honeymoon with you know 16 years ago and It's just like this full circle moment for me and I get to do it with one of my best friends in you and all these Incredible people like it's just it's awesome, man On the damn radio to my voice started to crack I got goosebumps listening to you. Sorry's everything. I don't want to get emotional. I got emotional on the damn radio too. My voice started to crack. I don't want to do that again.
Starting point is 02:06:06 I got goosebumps listening to you. Sorry, go ahead. It's just you guys were awesome. Like it was so natural. Like you have the perfect radio, like just like inflection and stuff in the voice. Like this guy's been doing this for 20 years. I thought you were going to say the perfect radio face. Yeah, we do have perfect radio faces. Uh, no, yeah, I thought the same thing. So I like Cody, you sound like a 20 year veteran out there. Um, and just more than that, it's like all the little moments that I think play on radio, which is hopefully part of the fun for anybody that listened, like, you know, our guy, Ian Carter of BBC broadcasting, like at the height of the
Starting point is 02:06:44 profession couldn't be a nicer guy. guy, Ian Carter of BBC broadcasting, like at the height of the profession, couldn't be a nicer guy. You know, I'm fishing his, his, his media badge out of the burn today. Cody's doing what were you guys calling it? The hearse, heim, Solheim, heim, Sol cup. The hearse heim cup. Yeah. I mean, it just is the most fun group of people here.
Starting point is 02:07:03 So I want to name names. I want to specifically shout out the whole squad and God, I'm going to feel bad if I missed anybody, but, but let's start with Tebby and Ollie to the producers. Those guys are awesome. And then the back show, like the people you don't hear from these guys, it is an unbelievable operation that these guys put together. You got Joe and Jack and big Al and Karen and Richard and Tilly. Like they are the, the people behind the curtain that is just making it all run
Starting point is 02:07:34 and making it sound awesome and making us sound good. And then of course, out, out, you know, the people that you hear on the radio, Marcus and Di in the studio, Ian and Kat, who are best, just the best. We got to have dinner with them this week. Maddie Adams, Amy, Beth, Sophie, Flick, like just pros, pros. And it's truly a privilege to be able to work with them, uh, this week. Like I can't wait to do it again.
Starting point is 02:08:03 Oh, it's one of those things where you're like, oh, we talk about like cool golf trips, right? The destinations are like, well, I guess I have to like start planning this for next year and every single Sunday at AIG women's open now, that's exactly what we say when we're saying goodbye is like they're like, oh, yeah So you like we'll just see you guys in wales next year. All right. Yeah. Okay. That's cool I guess we didn't mess it up too bad in Wales next year. All right, yeah, okay, that's cool. I guess we didn't mess it up too bad. And we're also like slap happy and so tired.
Starting point is 02:08:28 And we were, this is the other thing we were saying is like, it just feels like really rewarding work that we get to do. And it should, like, we should be tired. We should be exhausted. Like it's been a fricking hell of a week and I love spending it with you. I love spending it with Jordan.
Starting point is 02:08:43 Solly, anything else? That's not over for Cody. We're getting emotional over here. I love spending it with Jordan, Solly, anything else. We're getting emotional over here. We got another live show tonight, baby. This ain't ended. Well, we're gonna go have a little food and I think drink a pint or two and celebrate what was just a fantastic week here. I mean, one of the best freaking golf events
Starting point is 02:09:01 I've ever been to. And I think everybody watching, hopefully you felt the same way. This was professional golf, like at its best. God, well said guys, appreciate. Yeah, you guys had me FOMO and hard back home. It would look like an absolute blast and that shine through and all the content you guys did
Starting point is 02:09:15 on the radio and the pod and social media and everything. So congrats on a fantastic week. And I want to come join you one of these years, maybe in the August 2040. Would love it. And if people are interested, I mean mean we're going to be home for a couple weeks but then we're on the road man it's Solheim Cup season and I'm absolutely jacked up to be outside of Washington DC right not for election coverage but for the Solheim Cup. Randy's going for the other he's a big protester guy now but that's man, a huge shout out to Yeti for making this possible, supporting our LPGA
Starting point is 02:09:48 content again. Hi Noon, Solly said it, we're gonna be back in a couple hours, Solly. What time do I have to be back for the other live show? There's only four holes left in the BMW, so we gotta get ready for that one. After dinner. Okay. We'll be back then. But anyway, guys, thanks for tuning in.
Starting point is 02:10:05 Love every minute of it. We'll be back in a couple hours for BMW Championship recap. If you're listening on the pod, we're not coming back. This is the end. Good night. Bye bye.

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