No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 889 - Lydia Ko calls in after AIG Women's Open win + BMW Championship Recap
Episode Date: August 25, 2024Two Sunday live shows = one crazy weekend. We recap TC and Neil's week out at the BMW Championship, Keegan's huge win, Adam Scott, Ludvig, Castle Pines, and everything else from out west. We also br...eakdown Cody, Randy, and Jordan's week at the AIG Women's Open at St. Andrews (52:00), hear directly from the champion, Lydia Ko (1:51:00), and talk about everything else that transpired on a dramatic back nine at the Old Course. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up Live show presented as always by our friends at High Noon. Solly here joined by the Schuster brothers, Neil and TC.
Joining us from the, live from the back of a BMW it would appear. How we doing fellas?
and TC joining us live from the back of a BMW would appear. How are we doing fellas?
Sully, I'm doing fantastic.
What a day out here at Castle Pines.
We're a mile high and I'm vibing.
We are more than a mile high.
We're 6,400 feet.
Sully, I was saying to Neil,
this place is like Muirfield Village West,
which I think you would love it.
It looked a lot like it on TV,
that 18th hole, that clubhouse setting. Denver showed outside Denver showed out this
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Here is how it's gonna work tonight. If you are watching this live
This is the second time we have been live today because we went live after the AIG Women's Open wrapped.
If you are listening on your podcast feed, we're going to play that audio after this section.
We're trying to look out for our crew across the pond to make sure they don't have a 2 a.m. bedtime tonight.
So we've already done that part of the show. Please stick around for the back half of that. We talked to Lydia Ko, of course, the champion. But first we wanna catch the Schuster bros
coming off of a vibrant week out there.
What's your reaction to the week?
It's been a great week.
I got here Tuesday, a little Pro-Am,
wet my beak on a Pro-Am,
which was great to understand the course,
get a sense of how penal to rough was,
pick out some holes, 14 and 15 were my two favorites.
And then yeah, the tournament's been really good. I think even some of the, you know,
the committee that put in the event on were surprised by how this course throttled the scoring.
It held up really, really well, even at altitude. And I think it was really fun for me to watch
these guys challenged and kind of flummoxed by both the wind and the altitude. So it was a very engaging tournament to be a spectator of.
Yeah, I would say complete affirmation of new markets.
Yeah.
PGA Tour going to places that they don't go every year.
Like the tour goes to Greensboro,
no offense to Greensboro or the cities
or like six places in Texas and all that.
It's like, cool, there's wide swaths of the country that are being
totally ignored by the tour.
And there was a buzz around Denver this week
and they showed out in a big way and they put their,
put their money behind the tournament,
put their feet behind the tournament,
put their eyeballs behind the tournament.
It's a total, it's just, it's classic honeymoon phase.
You know, it's a novelty.
It's great. People were fired up to it's classic honeymoon phase. You know, it's a novelty, it's great.
People were fired up to be out there.
A big walk though.
And so, you know, credit to the folks out here
just outside of Denver for hoofing it.
Which they don't need to come here every year,
but come here like every four years, like every five years.
And there needs to be more tournaments that move around.
Like this is the only tournament outside the majors
that moves around. And that shouldn't be the case.
Well it's also just like we're looking for places to play in August that are not swamp
ass invitationals, right? I mean it's nobody looked miserable out there. I know it was
hot out there but you're at altitude. It's not the humidity. It's a totally different
heat and it shines. There were some tough attitudes out there. I was going to say people
get tend to get a little bitchy and a little whiny near the end of the season
some of the players yes the players yes but that's that's good for entertainment purposes like i
mean i watched rory snap his driver on nine t it's like sorry bud play better matthew pavon
chucked his his iron into the woods from middle of the fairway on 10 the other day
Scotty was bitchy all week. Yeah, which we can get it
Yeah, I don't want to throw you off track yet. Honestly. I was kind of in and out we did the live show
I missed a fair amount of the golf today, but it was like every time I looked up
I watched a lot of it Saturday and a you know, fair amount of it today as well
Like whoever was up on top was just fucking up the whole time.
I don't know who, I know Keegan won the tournament, we're going to get to that.
He birdied the first hole today, made 13 straight pars, got a couple good bounces
with drives on 14 and 15, but airmailed one to the back of the green,
on the back bunker on 15, did good to make bogey there.
Adam Scott had a window on 15 to make up some space on Keegan,
but he airmailed the green, he made bogey as Keegan did as well it was Scott's fourth
bogey of the back nine Keegan he led by one over Burns who shot 65 earlier today
with three holes to play but Keegan hit a fantastic five iron up the hill on the
par 5 17th have for an easy to putt birdie is like the shot of the day on
the par 5 ends up making bogey on the 18th but wins an easy to putt birdie is like the shot of the day on the par five ends up
making bogey on the 18th but wins by one huge reaction.
Guys I feel like Keegan is kind of running the Bryson like playbook right now of like
engaging the crowd.
It was a lot of team you a lot of USA chance going on.
He's had some really good interviews.
I feel like Keegan and Bryson like glow up in terms of PR and public,
just appearance in general was not something I had going for 2024.
So a couple things, I followed the leaders from 9 through 16 and
the golf was grindy.
Yeah, Adam Scott, basically the difference was Keegan made a bunch of six footers,
Adam Scott. Basically the difference was Keegan made a bunch of six footers. Adam Scott did not.
He bogeyed 10, 11, and 12 because he missed like, you know, a five footer, six footer,
and a seven footer.
And Keegan made those putts.
I don't think until that five iron on 17, Keegan really didn't hit a shot that was like,
man, that slammed the door.
But he did what he had to do.
I sense though with Keegan that the nod for the Ryder Cup
is like a bit of a validation for him.
I think it's really helped his confidence.
And I was really impressed because it didn't seem
like he had his best stuff, but he just kind of kept at it
and he didn't go backwards.
And then he kind of waited until that moment on 17
in the fairway where he
was able to slam the door.
So impressive stuff.
Like I know it was also a really interesting contrast of styles.
You have a very elegant guy like Adam Scott and a very kind of, honestly, tweaky, twitchy
guy like Teagan, but they're both kind of similar.
Tweaky.
It just, yeah, he's always like truly New England.
Yeah. He's always kind of like, is he good? You
know, he stands behind the ball, bends his bends his legs, and
he's about to step in, but he stops, he spins his driver head.
It's just a lot of twitchiness. And then, but what's funny is,
they both kind of stink at putting, you know, like
broomstick, recovering broomstick guys. And you know, they both hit it like really, really solid.
So they're very different from a, I don't know,
an aesthetic standpoint, but they kind of have similar game.
So it was an interesting final pairing to watch.
Not a lot of fireworks though.
It was really, really, both of them were not like
super jacked up.
Weirdly solid.
I think there's, I think Keegan being the captain
has almost put a chip on her
shoulder of like, hey, you guys, you guys think like, like, I can still play like, all right,
you know, I'm the captain, people think I'm washed or whatever. No, I'm going to qualify for this
fucking team. And that seems to be, I mean, he's getting the USA chance all over the place. He's
getting all sorts of, you know, all my captain, captain, my captain, that sort of thing. But I think overall,
it's, it's just, it's very much like, I'm going to prove to you
guys that I can make this team. And then we'll leave it to the
assistant captains and John Wood and the analytics guys to put
together the setup and the pairings and all that. It's all
I'm hearing some concerning things about what they might do to Bethpage.
Just cut everything down and make it a-
You shared that earlier in Slack.
TC, that was decided in 2012 when they decided
they were going to Bethpage.
That was not news to anyone that they're
going to cut the rough out of Bethpage.
That is the most obvious thing. The listen I I'm the only
thing I don't want to have happen is to like for all of next year to be doing is Keegan be going
to be playing captain. Like he honestly should I know what he's already said I'm not going to
pick myself if I make it on points you know I make it on points which he did not get any points for
this like and if he does make it on points next year credit to you. Oh there's no points for this?
No it's not a Ryder Cup year. Oh this is uh oh
so wait yep I thought it was the whole two year process thing. Well they do
there's points available in majors in the in the non Ryder Cup year. Proceeding
they change it every year I don't know what it is. No I was I was actually
confused too I would have thought that he'd get some points. That said though
like if you want to pick a good guy for Bethpage,
like Keegan's game fits it to a T like Bethpage is awesome for him.
As Sally probably is going and looking up the data golf profile.
He's not that long. Like, I don't I don't know why. Why does he super long? No, he's not.
I think he's like.
Above average, but I don't think of average.
Super.
I will say the shot that he ended into 17, that was the only time that it felt like it
was in the balance today.
Uh, we can talk Ludwig in a little bit, but Keegan, uh, Keegan had, I don't know,
200 plus into 17 straight up the Hill.
They talked about making it a par four this week and the club was like, no, like
we want to keep it a par five There's there's a history
That you know the course kind of ebbs and flows the international like all those kind of Eagles on that hole and Keegan hit
By far the best shot of the day today into 17. You see I can't even explain to you. It's not even a close
I mean he hit a approach into 10 to I don't know 8 feet
He went to his knees on the approach because he thought it was in the water.
Like the flag was like far right.
And that was as close as he hit it until he reached the 17th, uh, into like
every other hole that both of them were either at like 15, they both air mailed
it over the green, uh, 12 bailed out right.
I mean, just not talking to Keegan and I am Scott.
The final group was just not sharp.
But Keegan just was able to make the five to seven footers
and Adam Scott was not.
But it's just like as a venue, this place isn't,
it's not the best architect,
it's not an architectural masterpiece.
It's not.
It's a big walk. But it's, yeah, it's like all week it was like I think everybody
went in thinking these guys are going to rip this place apart.
We got here Tuesday. They had guys out with blowers every night
standing the rough up. It was it was like four or five inches long.
The Greens firmed up. It was really windy the last few days.
They got a little rain on Thursday night, but otherwise greens were firm.
Wind was gusty and like unpredictably gusty.
You add in the altitude and, and you know, like 62, 6,400 feet and just
there's OB all over the place too.
And then also we went out with Stephen Cox this morning,
as he was setting up the golf course.
He was pointing out all the spots that there's yellow stakes
and yellow lines and how much that changes
these guys' perception of a golf hole
where it's just very much like, oh my gosh,
like there's an actual penalty if I go in the water here
and I have to basically redrop from the same spot or you know from the drop area instead of
Hey to club lengths from the red line
And so all those things combined like I felt like we got a preview of what the PGA tour wants to be in
two three four five years
And Sally I was asking him, you know, he like here he added some short grass
short of 17 green so that
Guys had to worry about Chipping back towards that pin from long long right where all the balls ended up. It was a really thoughtful
Set up this week and I thought everybody thought they were gonna go 23 24 under and what was the buddy Keegan went 11 or 12
I think it was 11 because he bogeyed
12 under yeah I thought it was gonna be low I mean it's with four par fives yeah like
four gettable par fives some people were calling you out for for saying that these guys were
gonna go super low this week on the preview show I believe you said that hey I wasn't
out there you guys could have passed along this information earlier this week that would
have been really helpful that would help. I think they all thought that.
I mean it was.
But just to give you a sense though, like I was on 11T which is the long downhill par
three, and I watched on Friday Will Zalat Taurus come through this caddy.
The actual number was 202.
They were calculating 65 yards down the hill.
They were using 12% for their altitude
and the wind was down.
So it was like a lot, you know,
just a lot of factors involved.
So interesting.
Well, you saw, I mean, there were so many shots all week
where, you know, you're just, guys are just hanging on
for dear life.
They don't know what's about to happen.
Like balls in the air, they don't know what to tell it.
They just have major uncertainty on a lot on, on, you know,
calculating all those numbers. it it created some some
variety, right? Especially some of those elevated T's on
especially on those crosswind holes like dude, I
nine eighteen. Yeah, so much OB coming in. Adam Scott would
put two balls OB this week and missed every putt and still
almost had a chance to win on the on the seventy second hole.
Like it was an interesting variety.
Then again, like you said, DC,
it's not like, this is not a brilliantly designed golf course,
but it is like, and it's not so bad.
It's good either.
It's just kind of like, this is an interesting little off ramp,
something different than what we normally see.
Yeah. There's all sorts of consequences.
Yeah.
Like there's a lot of consequential shots, I think.
And then the ball, like, so it's in the crazy part is it was what?
8,100 yards. And once you factor in the elevation change, or the the altitude, and then I think
overall, like in the aggregate, it plays about 200, 300 feet downhill. And so I think overall,
it was like a 7,100 yard golf course. And so for that to, with a par 72
and for that to only yield 1200 par
is a credit to, you know, the pin positions, the green
and with smooth bent greens too.
If like, man, that was, that's what the PGA Tour
should aspire to of it's really, really good tournament golf.
And it like, I mean, I shit, I stood on nine and 18T,
which there's kind of a like double T for two holes.
And it was straight crosswind on Saturday.
And I watched Patrick Cantlay, Nick Dunlap,
Wills Alatorre, a bunch of guys like just wipe it right
into the creek.
And- I stood there today, it was the same thing.
They, the ball, it would, you know,
it would look right down the middle
and be with the altitude.
The ball just lingers up there and starts veering right.
And then it would go in the water
and they all just couldn't believe it.
It was, and it's fun to watch these guys get fooled.
Yeah, Rory, same thing happened to Rory today, you know,
and then he leaned on that driver a little too much
and the thing, broken half. I don't know. It was, it was just a really fun, fun
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It's kind of- It launches up there.
It was my mind.
Yeah, it still gets up in the air
and lingers for quite some time.
A lot of, just some of the weird stuff
that happens this week.
Scotty really freaked out.
Was that on Friday?
Like he hit a ball in the water,
had to take a drop, hit it long,
was confused why it did not roll back,
just started yelling, how, how?
That's an upslope, what the fuck?
Like kind of out of character.
That was from the drop zone,
which was an awkward distance
because of the yellow penalty area.
So a lot of times these guys, they, you know,
they reach safe harbor when they hit the green
and it spins back.
And now they're, you know,
the yellow makes a big difference.
So I thought that was a really conscious effort
from the tour and the setup committee.
And it's awesome.
And the tour, the tour made it a distinct point this week too, if guys were getting TIO,
they're getting TIO from uncomfortable spots.
Sources told us that, showed us specific spots for like, yo, if they miss here, this is the TIO.
We have thought this through. And I was like, you know what? This is some of the hope and change
that I'm running on.
Okay.
In, in 20, 20,
TIO reform,
TIO reform is part of my 20, 28 platform.
If I were to, if I was to like true serum, Scotty,
who's probably just, he's pissy this week.
Like I think he would probably say like this big of a
variable going up in altitude this late in the season to like
it doesn't really matter he ended up still first seed going into next week
but like it's silly stuff so it's it again I don't necessarily agree with it
like I think you're the whole point of golf is like your game should travel to
all kinds of different you know different playing conditions and all
that stuff but I'm if I had like true serum some of these guys so they are
they like second to last tournament with so much on the line and berths into tour championship? Did you hear any kind
of like whispers of, you know, kind of this weird golf course?
I think there's stuff where, hey with Scotty, it's kind of like, yeah, like he should have
almost just gone on total cruise control this week and said, Hey, you know what? Like he, he, he, he complained at Memphis and said, Hey, I want, you know, like my,
my lead here should be reflected. Basically, you know,
if this is a regular season extension,
then my lead should be reflected. And it wasn't, but now like that,
that kind of gave him license to go on cruise control this week.
And I still feel like he tried to keep the pedal down. Uh, and Xander played pretty well.
Like he's kind of, those two are kind of way out in front of everybody.
But I think with, with Scotty is like, I just think it's reflective of what
the tour needs to decide with the playoffs.
Do you want them to be the playoffs?
And, and if so, then you need to invest in venues and they need to go out to the
West coast and do shit in prime time and, and, you know, really invest in venues and they need to go out to the west coast and do shit in primetime and and
You know really invest in the product or do you want to be a culmination of the regular season and just make it?
Hey, you know what like Scotty you you won however many times during the regular season
We're gonna just crown you during the playoffs. Yeah, I would say it's more evidence solid
I don't know if it was you or I but I've heard the fear like Scotty doesn't play well on his first visit to a course and throw this one in that category, right? Of like, it's Adam Scott. So, you know, Scottie's
first look at this place and that seems to be the only kryptonite we can find for Aquaman.
Kind of an underrated thing for next week because Eastlake, you know, obviously an annual venue,
but brand new setup. They just, they're coming out of a complete renovation and everything like that. Will Scotty, A,
it's a course he hasn't really played all that well at previously.
Totally.
And he hasn't won the facts the last couple of years. And then B, you add in, hey, it's
a new look as well. So I'm really, really curious to see. I think Scotty could kind of melt over a little bit or be kind of pissy if things don't
get off to a great start next week and he's trailing after Friday or Saturday. It's blowing
my mind that Jason Day played the PGA Tour in 2006. I'm like, this guy can't be right. I'm
looking it up and sure enough it is. Yeah, that was just so out of character.
And it was just like, man, there's a fair amount
of bitchiness this week with Rory throwing a club
into the water once and then breaking a club.
And then you guys saw the Matt Fitzpatrick incident today.
Well, yeah, well, honestly, we were kind of a part
of the drama as we were rolling around
with the head rules official.
It's like, just looking at the course,
checking out the pins.
He was giving us a lot of context
on how they set
things up. It was it was fascinating. And then all of a
sudden, the radio starts crackling. And it's like, hey,
we got a face collapse situation. Matt Fitzpatrick
saying his driver heads crack or his face is cracked. But it's
like, the the main the rules official on on the ground with
him was like, I can't like my finger there's no it's not loose
like they have a test for it.
It looks to be just, you know, an aesthetic crack,
but he was adamant that it wasn't.
And so then we rolled up in the car and all of a sudden
these like PGA tour live cameras are like in my grill.
And I'm like,
you're on a ride along with the cops.
Truly. I mean, it was like an episode of cops.
I was like, you on the ground.
No, no, no, I'm not, I'm not one of the cops, I promise. They should have brought you in for an opinion.
That would have been good content.
But it sounds, no, it sounds like that rule though,
they're thinking about adjusting because it's like,
all right, it has to be irreparably harmed.
Like, you know, the club has to be irreparable,
beyond repair.
Beyond repair.
In Officer Gillis language. And like, yeah, yeah, the club has to be irreparable beyond repair damage than officer Gillis language.
And like, yeah, yeah, the pants material damage to where, hey, it's affecting, I guess they've done
a bunch of testing of like, if the face is cracked, it's still launching off of the face.
And they went through their whole process. And it and they just couldn't buy the, you know,
letter of the law. They're like, you got to play this club. And Fitzpatrick's like rightfully upset with that.
And so it's kind of like, hey,
if a club malfunctions, not the players,
he didn't snap it like Rory did,
like then maybe in the near future,
they're gonna look at that rule.
Which I think is, at least they're kind of trying
to evaluate like the logic of some of this stuff.
But I can tell you that Fitzpatrick was not happy about it
because I was like,
man, what are these cameras all up in my grill for?
I was like, this must be a thing.
So that was fun.
He was pissed off.
It was, they posted the clip and it was, which-
Good on them for posting the clip.
Or somebody did, I assume it was them.
And it got shared around.
He had some words for him saying it was ridiculous.
But he hit another shot with it and it like duck hooked. And he was like, so I have to play the restaurant with a
three wood. And this guy's like, yeah, pretty much you do. I don't know. I do feel like the tour,
just different stuff this week. I feel like the tour is loosening up a little bit just overall.
That's what I've heard. I'm waiting to see it a little bit.
I think they need to see the ball go through the hoop
a little bit on a couple of things.
You've got some leading indicators, Sal.
We don't know if inflation is flowing down,
but we think it's cooling.
That's what we're noticing.
A good 10 years after we started putting the heat on,
I'm there like,
I don't know, these guys might be onto something
with some of these things.
Maybe in three years, we might see the regulations
be a little bit loosened. But no, there was, I mean, truly there was a buzz out here in Denver and they sold out
on tickets.
It was a tough ticket to get around town.
And like it was like Randy's fiance came out first golf tournament ever today.
Of course it's your first golf tournament ever.
You're engaged to Randy.
Of course he's not going golf tournament ever. You're engaged to Randy. Of course he's
not gonna bring you to one. And you know, and sure enough, she's like, this is awesome. This
is great. She's like, do you think I can get a ticket? I was like, I think we can probably
help you. We know some people. But no, it was truly like, and I think that's just the energy
of going to a place that has grown like crazy over the last 10, 15 years.
I got a good story on that. So you find it at the Denver airport and on the,
on the plane train, you know, the between concourses,
Wyndham Clark comes on and he starts, he's like, welcome. You know,
we the, the world of golf,
it's all this very general golf talk because they couldn't mention PG,
like the Denver airport had these regulations around like what you could say you couldn't promote because it's a public yeah it couldn't
be a commercial advertisement so he's just like welcoming everybody the world of golf is here this
is the you know the best players the big championship yeah yeah the biggest a big championship is here
this week you know it was so but so vague and generic but it's's cool to hear like, as someone who was coming to the tournament,
I'm like, oh, that's, that makes an impact on me of like,
oh man, the city's happy to have the golf tournament here.
Like, I don't know if they're doing that
at Hartsfield next year or next week, right?
Like, because they're there every year.
So there's naturally a bit of a,
it's just not as, there's not as much excitement
when a tournament's in the same place every year, so.
We have the
Any other big takeaways we can look at standings going in and we put anything else from on site
You I got five takeaways and I think TC does too. You want to go there?
Sure, I've already done a couple of mine. Okay, let's do some well. I had five specific things
This was my first tournament which I almost cheapish to say first time I've been on site this year
Listen got it got a newborn at home
uh, and so I had a few things that were like
What you pick up when you're in person so today i'm standing on that split t-box 9 and 18 big tone walks up
He tees it up, you know, and there's a nice the gallery's like right behind the t-box
And he kind of I don't know the the sound of his drive sounded a little weird,
but he stripes it.
It literally center cut right down the fairway.
And he turns around and he hits,
he literally hits a Jeb Bush.
He goes, please clap.
Yeah.
And I was just like, that's the kind of like little thing
that like Tony's not in the hunt.
Yeah.
It's middle of the day,
but just that little interaction.
He also made like 400 grand this week.
I know, but it just, I was just kind of like,
I wrote that down because I was like,
you just heard me, please clap.
Please clap.
It's right down the middle guys, you know?
And it was just, it's good, I don't know,
it's good to get that like in-person juju
or those in-person anecdotes.
Speaking of Big Tone,
could be a tough week for Big Tone.
I think there's a big feature article coming out
about some of the stuff that's been going on out in Utah and Salt Lake from a sponsorship, you know, investment perspective.
So I like Big Tone. I hope he gets through it.
He made $3.44, $1.12 this week.
He made me some.
He played good. He was playing with Cam Young, who went the opposite direction. direction apologies to Cody, but Kim got absolutely vaporized
He's blown out over the Great Plains. I think he shot like six over today
It's it's kind of wild I see Roy throw a club
I see him break a club this week where he made 500 grand for his t11 finish half a million dollars
I know he doesn't need it. But all right, let me let me hit you with with another one
Friday saw Wyndham Clark hit an unbelievable recovery
shot off the right side of 17. The gusty swine. The gusty swine. Crowds love home game models
off the charts. Crowd loving him. Derek White for some reason, the Celtic, followed him
for three straight days, all 18 holes. If you're watching live, you can see like, and
okay, I just want to like reiterate, Wyndham was laying up and he was like breaking the classic rule of hitting a hard layup.
He's hitting it through this like window, like 50 feet up. He pulls it off. But another example
of like being on site, how jacked up people get when these guys play from the crowd. You know,
like you hear the casual fans are like, you know, some guys bringing his kid over like,
check this out. Like it's just the energy is so.
Another reason we need TIO reform.
Yes, exactly.
A hundred percent because that's where the juice is.
Like everyone's like feeling like.
They're in the arena.
Yes, they're, oh my God.
I can't believe we are here to watch him hit this shot.
And then he executes it after he and his caddy,
John Ellis, like, you know, got the number.
Like it was really
fun to watch them go through their process. There's probably at least two or 300 people,
you know, in the background here. And I just, I don't know, being on site for something
like that. It's just really, it's kind of fun. Even I felt that way. Like I just, I
had just wandered over from, from 10 green. I'm like, oh shit, there's a ball. Oh, it's
Wyndham's ball. Oh, let me sit. let me set up shop right here. This is great.
And I snapped this picture.
So another reason just like,
yeah, I gotta get on site a little bit more, Solly.
I'm trying, bud.
I'd love to.
I know, me too.
I'd love to miss this two years in a row
I've had to miss for Charlie.
All right, I got two more.
I'm gonna skip one of them.
One of them was just the 14th hole.
I thought it was gorgeous with the backdrop.
It was a great pin.
655 yard par five, dogleg left, loved it.
All right.
That was the same hole that Neil went.
He flew it over the hospitality tents
and Wednesday in the Pro-Hamm
with a seven wood from what, 240?
240.
And then he refused to take TIO relief.
Flopped it over the hospitality tent
and almost made birdie, but comfy five.
Some guy on the eighth hole,
they were live betting on Saturday Ludwig to birdie.
Ludwig took a 12 footer and I swear,
like I've never seen two guys,
like one of them tackled the other one.
They both won 600 bucks.
And I bring this up because like it was really fun
because these guys are jacked up.
But I'm like, that's kind of the future here
of just people just sitting around like live betting. So I don't really know how I feel about that. The first experience I've had with like on site, like the lot not just two guys betting each other because you hear that a lot like oh yeah, 10 bucks, you know, I bet 10 bucks he misses this. It was like no, they both when he had teed off because I asked them, they were like no we bet a bunch of money that he was
Birdie and he did going back to your last point of
Hey, we're in the arena. Yeah
Those two things aren't necessarily
Sympathetic I know so that's a little like I don't know how I feel about that one
But I wanted to point it out because it was kind of a striking moment for me
And then the last one he didn't really show up today, but I followed
Ludwig for 10 holes yesterday. And the pace is just
aspirational. I would say, rarely, when he had pulled a
club was the ball not in the air. 20 seconds later, like it's
under 20. He picks the clubs, steps behind it, takes one look and then the club is back.
And it was a really fun round to watch.
He won part of the first, one part of the first four holes
or I mean, he made like a 40 footer on the first hole
as he's dripping blood from an altitude nosebleed.
So we had to like pause and then he makes the putt
and he just got off to such a good start on Saturday.
And then he backtracked a little bit, but. We'll get to to that. So yeah that's the last one. I just seen Ludwig in
person that's the first time I've watched him up close since we played with him but
he really is like he's a stud and he's just he's a real engaging dude he's not like keeping
his head down he's a big it seems like he's always looking out he makes eye contact with
fans I just appreciate the way he kind of goes about
his business and enjoyed following him for nine holes. I'm gonna I'm gonna quiz
you guys on this because you can't look at anything. You guys are in the car and
I don't I don't know the answer to this either. I've stopped at a topic of
conversation really of anything but so these six automatic qualifiers on the
US side for the President's Cup Which just and the qualification just ended just now are Colin Morikawa Patrick Cantlay saw hith
Scotty Scheffler Windham Clark and Xander Shofley. So those are the six who were the who were the who are your six?
I'm not look good right now. I saw his wrist is all messed up and he just generally just bad day today
I think I think he might have been a Friday
Without being able to look at the points list who are who are your six guys? You're putting on the team after these automatic qualifiers again cantlay
Xander scotty
Morikawa windham and sahith are the automatic qualifiers. I'm putting denny mccarthy. Okay
I think then he's playing greek golf right now. That's it. That was a bit of a left fielder there TC
I'm going with akshay
Give me some young blood
is
Did you say Wyndham? Yeah, Wyndham's on he's on okay
It's kind of hard it's kind of hard to figure out yeah, I think big tone I mean he's there in Canada
Yeah, big tone is seventh on the list So yeah, okay. Yeah, so think Big Tone. I mean he's... They're in Canada. Yeah. Big Tone is seventh on the list.
So yeah, I think he's in ability. Okay, yeah, so Big Tone's on. Who else we got?
It's interesting now, huh?
Yeah, I think... Yeah, I can't look it up. I think Akshay is absolutely on. 100%? Like, Danny McCarthy. What a good like...
He's been playing great golf right now.
You're picking Lee Harvey Oswald instead of your boy JT Poston who I
think you've said like five times place with the best golf in the world he's
here every year top 50 every year he's unbelievable I mean like let's talk
about Keegan well I was gonna say like mean, Spieth is out. That helps, right, in terms of-
All right, so JT and Max are two that, like, I mean,
Max, not a good week.
Like, honestly, I would say, if I was the captain,
and be like, yo, man, like, we need you for Ryder Cup
next year, go get your mind right.
Go shut it down.
Go have an off season.
I think that's one of the things is, like,
Spieth's having surgery.
Ludwig's having surgery in a couple weeks. I think with with Max it's like man like go like
We're talking to Joe this week and like I don't think Max would
Mind us saying this like he's just like he he's been two-way missed with the driver for the last couple months
he's just like burned out a little bit, right? And it's just like, go get your mind right
and fall back in love with playing golf again.
Like I feel like now more than ever,
if we're gonna elevate all these signature events
and make, like expand the part of the season that matters
and put all this money out there,
these guys need an off season.
And because otherwise like,
a four week or a six week break
isn't going to cut it like you need you need two three months.
So I would argue. So the last two names, I think Sam Burns, these last two weeks kind
of maybe a recency bias, but I mean, great day today. Played well in Memphis last week,
has experience, you know, playing in this that team format. So, you. So he's a veteran, he's a known name.
And honestly, you could probably start,
you could make an RUB for Nick Dunlap.
And if you wanna go super young.
That's a really good call.
I mean, I saw him play a little bit this week
and he got him and he just munches the ball.
Do you try to get somebody like Zala Torres?
Zala Torres is another good option.
In where like, hey, get him some know team experience. I'm kind of out on
Cam Young for the Presidents Cup. He is trending in the wrong direction. You're
gonna have to pick somebody there's not an abundance of options. Yeah I mean and
I'm like I'm not sure the course fit for rural Montreal. You know like I'm not
sure what that that place is really all about. But, you know, I think, I don't know, it's a
it's a PGA tour thing as well. So they're going to try to tie in
guys that made it to the tour championship or whatnot, you
know, like, is there a
that heavily on? No, absolutely not. I think I think JT has a
better case than Max. But I think both of those guys should shut it down for the year president's cup doesn't fucking
matter okay like nobody cares who wins who it's it's a it should it's a true
like if the if the US team is approaching this correctly it should be a
true let's get some let's get some reps for some guys.
Let's test some things out and figure it out.
I agree with that. Um, but I think it matters too.
I bet it matters to max and JT. I think they really liked that environment. I,
I probably skew towards let's get some younger blood in there or some guys that
are trending more than,
like the experience factor doesn't matter as much to me
as like, are you in good form or not?
But like, so there's, to me,
there's still not the guy that's like beat,
like Dunlap has not played better golf than JT.
Like he, and he won the Barracuda.
That's fair.
I was kind of throwing that out as like,
you could throw that in the conversation.
But you're looking at upside.
That's like a Ludwig thing where like, hey, let's get this guy
I think that it's gonna have to be like a guy that's really beats down the door though to usurp somebody like JT in that
Spot I think max might be a different company
That's again kind of a hard conversation to be on the President's Cup team of like hey man
Like go go get your mind right
Like that that like that's where I'm almost you're kind of lumping JT in with I don't max and speed
right now though JT's had a better year than we think it
hasn't been like, above average for his career, but he actually
kind of surprised me when I when I saw him here, I was like,
Oh, you're eating an injection of confidence where it's just
crazy to me that Max is, is a, you know, borderline Presidents Cup guy went over the line.
Like since I think I need to look at where we were last year around, you know,
a few weeks later than, you know, basically 11 months ago where we were with Max in Rome.
So now like, man, that kind of bums me.
Okay.
You know what?
You want me to really bum you out last year at this tournament?
He set the course record in the Olympia fields. Yeah. that kind of bums me. Okay, you want me to really bum you out? Last year at this tournament, he set
the course record in the Olympia fields. Yeah. And like on, I think that was Friday that he did that
Friday or Saturday. He played well today. He did. He shot 500 a day. He had, he finished strong, but
I mean, the, the, the ju, the vibes and the juice are off with Max right now. I still wouldn't,
I wouldn't rule him out. I wouldn't honestly. I mean,
I think Keegan is more is likely for a spot, especially after this, just because it's kind
of barren out there. And with Max's record in this against match play, it's different.
Like I would not rule him out. And again, I just don't think like they're going to do
like Brian Harmon over Max and JT.
Solly, two guys. So I think what is what is Alitouris in the in the rankings right now?
I don't they have not updated them as of now. He was not in the top 25 of the rankings.
I would say another guy we play with him on Wednesday.
You're not going to like this. Tom Hoagie.
Did he also say he's not playing?
He said he's playing like shit, man. He's almost like sheepish So, I'm Tom Hoagie. He's not playing. He said he's
playing like shit, man. He's
almost like sheepishly like I
can't believe I made it in. I
made it in the top 50s like I
just been you know, somehow
getting top 10s and 20s in the
signature event. He was very
like like kind of self-effacing
about it and then he played
well. I think he was he was T
thirteen thirteen exactly
played so bad. Oh god. The Proamp solid he played awful at all, you know
Grazerman's got like the the you know quad max out on every shot and Hoagie gets picks us up at the turn and he's just
Like, you know, he's not even he's just kind of hitting
It was great truly playing like he's at home with his buddies like I was like damn
I was a big fan of his vibe and it was going I brought that up because like it's at home with his buddies. I was like, damn, I was a big fan of his vibe.
Coach coin.
I brought that up because it's bleak out there,
honestly, on the US side.
And it's an interesting convo.
And I don't know if it's going to be.
Are the internationals having a moment?
I wouldn't get out of hand here, TC.
There were a lot of Korean.
Well, TC had also pointed, well, yeah.
Siwoo, Ben On on J days playing nice
Adams gots playing great
Hideki, I don't know about the back this week. This doesn't feel like there's a time. I'm David Lee
I guess Canadians. Sorry, I followed pen earth for a little bit this week
Take it all away. Like that's an indictment of the mod. What do you call it? What's the video game term?
NLP
NC NPC indictment of the mod. What do you call it? What's the video game term NLP? NPC. He walked up to the team like I've never laid eyes on that guy. That's crazy.
Global superstar Tom Kim. No you know Cam Davis? Yeah. Yeah. Cam Davis played great
today. Smelly Cam Davis. Super. Super global superstar, Tom Kim.
Let's look at, let's go ahead and look at the board
going into next week.
Scottie's jumped out to a nice lead over Xander
going into the Tour Championship.
Hideki starting three back after having withdrawn
from the BMW this week is gonna be interesting.
And again, kind of the new way they've done this
or the way they've done this for several years now,
like he used to be in a lot safer spot if he was having an injury issue going into this whereas like if he's got a
Withdrawal he goes down to go goes down to last place and loses like five million dollars
So you may see him you're gonna see him try to finish next week
Keegan jumps all the way up to fourth after getting on on the number into the BMW championship. Yeah, it's impressive
I mean we didn't really give him enough credit upfront.
In on the number, it goes out and wins this event.
100%.
One of the grindiest rounds I've seen in person.
So I just want to make sure that we don't shortchange Keegan.
It was a really, really impressive day from him.
Going back to I think Hideki, he he shot 60, what?
Shot 67. He was 500 after round one and we're watching him warm up on the
range on Friday. And then he just walked off. He's just like yeah I'm peace guys
I'm gonna I'll see you in Atlanta. And he had kind of whiffed the putt to
finish his first round. That's all I said, just kind of a weird golf.
Very weird golf.
Ludwig is in fifth.
He's at minus five Rory, more a cow, a Clark burns, can't lay a tide for six
that minus four, uh, that's as far as we're going to go down the leaderboard.
That's how it's done there.
TCU states, keep it tight and down the leaderboard.
Let's get to our serve pro Mea Culpas in golf.
When bad shots happen, there's the mulligan ball.
When fire, water, or other damage happens, there's Serve Pro.
Thankfully the pros at Serve Pro can help us
clean up some messy takes from this week
or this month or this year.
We can go around the horn on some bad takes of Mea Culpas
and make them like they never even happened.
Neil, what is your mulligan?
Well, we could go a few directions with this one.
We could, I was thinking about just my pronunciation
all year, like even in the pro-am I called Max Grazerman.
Oh, you're panicked for Grazerman.
Grazerman.
Grazerman, I just, I might have like undiagnosed dyslexia.
I don't know, okay, a lot of letters in that name,
but we're not gonna do that.
I was trying to reflect today,
cause you saw, you asked like,
let's do one for the whole season.
And I'm like, when did I feel like the most sheepish
about something?
And it's definitely the block party for the Masters.
My son had just been born.
I kind of rushed that play and was like,
yeah, we're doing a block party for the Masters.
And Roy played like, you know, it just didn't show up.
And I thought, you know what? I thought you would have said like selling off the block party for the Masters. And Rory played like, you know, it just didn't show up. And I thought, you know what?
I thought you would have said like selling off
the block party to private.
No, no, I thought that was the right play
because it's, you know, sometimes you gotta,
it's not about me, TC.
That's the point.
So I think that just kind of want to apologize
kind of for Rory's season overall.
That's my, my vehicle.
I feel like I got it kicked off on the wrong foot at Augusta
in April. So there you have it.
Do you see?
Yeah, Sally, I, you know, a hand up here. Um, I want to apologize for Ludwig and for
my support of Ludwig. Um, it's, uh, you know, last year I'd kind of pronounced him, Hey,
he's going to be the second coming.
This guy is coming for your souls.
Let me take you through Ludwig's year.
This is worldwide, played in 19 events.
At the end of last year, at the end of 2023,
he was 29th in the world.
But this year he played 19 events.
He's got three second place finishes,
five fourth through 10th finishes, only two missed cuts and he's fourth in the world.
Wow. And that's just going to flip it on you solid.
That's just not acceptable. Okay. And I think he's out of gas a little bit. I think, like,
I apologize. He finished solo second in this event. That's not acceptable. I think he's out of gas
and he's getting, I think his meniscus is all messed
up. He's going to get surgery in the next couple of weeks. And I think he needs to take stock of
where he's at, how his life has changed over the last 15, 16 months or so, and start moving forward
and kind of hit the hard reset. Because obviously this year, not acceptable, didn't get a win.
hit the hard reset because obviously this year not acceptable, didn't get a win.
We've got a major win. I want an RSM.
That was last year.
Is that technically last year's calendar?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a new schedule, Neil.
You're not going to believe it.
Yeah.
The fall.
I can't keep up with this stuff.
It's like, no, it's the writer's.
Find out the fall series.
Soon as crazy.
No.
So the fall series counts towards next year.
Nope.
All right.
Sorry.
Nope. No, it's no, it counts towards next year's priority ranking, but it's crazy. No, so the fall series counts towards next year. Nope. All right, sorry.
No, it counts towards next year's priority ranking,
but it's last year's thing.
Okay, so I was-
You were not right about anything.
Make that your medical football game.
Somehow you've gotten it wrong on both sides.
What are you actually apologizing for?
That's the thing, I'm not apologizing for anything.
That's what I figured.
See, I knew that, I knew it was-
I knew you were gonna do that.
And he's been playing hurt all year, and everybody's been, oh, you know what, Leviton shoots 75
today or whatever.
And listen, we need to clean up the Saturdays and Sundays, but you've seen his floor this
year.
So I apologize for that.
You've seen too much of his floor.
You're going to see more of his ceiling next year.
He's going to win a major.
He's going to win at least three or four times on tour.
Okay.
I'm going to put that in the NLU record and we're going to revisit that to make sure we're not gonna get away with that one in the sheet. All right, cool. I apologize
You write that down solid. I missed that he's gonna win a major and he's gonna win three or four times on tour
But the next year the thing that I just did is you don't know if those three or four times the major
Counts towards that and I said three or four. So I got all sorts of wiggle room. Sure.
I apologize.
My man, Culpa was giving TC that much air time.
I should have cut that off a long time ago.
Mine was just gonna be,
I don't wanna say I abused the podcast bump,
but listen, I was trying to give JT a little bump here
going into the back half of the year.
I was trying to give Max a little bump here
going to the back half of the year,
thinking they might turn their game around
after making some podcast appearances.
History has shown that to be the case, but maybe a little bit of abuse on that.
They did not have the finishes to the year that we were hoping for.
JT's not done technically, but it's not been the sprint through the finish line that we're
hoping.
So I just want to apologize for everybody that was putting in big plays on the podcast
bump that has had great returns in the past.
Can I ask a question?
Did Tommy make the tour championship?
I know he was right on the bubble.
He did, I think he was well off the bubble.
He did, and I hit yet another FanDuel Sunday play.
I'm on a little bit of a heater with some of those.
So what did he finish at?
T5.
Oh, great.
He finished T5 this week, yeah.
Hey, that's fantastic.
And got off to a really bad start. And then you bump. We interviewed
him on Wednesday night. Literally, he dragged me to a C-suite event. Everybody there. Yeah. In the
Manning cave. Everybody there was like, Oh my God, like Tommy's great, huh? Like, I was like, yeah,
I've been trying to tell you. I'm trying to tell y'all. It's good to see Feno back out there.
Good to see Tommy giving Feno the staff bag
this week as well.
No, no, the carry bag.
Or the carry bag, not the staff bag.
But yeah, overall, I don't know, I think Tommy, T5,
I think his best golf is still ahead of him.
And he's gonna prove the haters wrong.
Sal, you can write that down.
Okay, oh, you print that.
Of which there are many.
Well, special shout out to BMW has been a longtime supporter of our content
They have been they've I would say they've quote got it
Dating all the way back to 2017 and like setting us up for success at all of their championships that they've put on in many different
parts of the globe on a lot of different tours and it's been a great relationship and
It's great to have your I love to see you guys buzzing have to be an on site especially you Neil tall all the on site it was a great all great experience I mean and that I hope
that most people that go to golf from man I should do this more often it's kind of the takeaway is
like that's exactly what you're looking for so I think something else too is the WGA the Western
Golf Association every member I meet they're all great. Yeah, it's just very, you know,
well, and just like the Evan scholars are at the center of this. They, they give cars
to all the PGA tour caddies. They announced the caddies names along with the players.
Like there, there just seems to be a central focus and the theme. And I mean, like, like
Duffy and George Solich, who kind of help run Castle Pines, they were both Evans Scholars
alums and like, there's just this like generational connectivity between, you know, just Evans
Scholars and Western Golf Association and moving around the country and all that. And
I know there's flack for them not, you know, for them go to the East Coast often or whatever.
And we're trying to be like, man, you guys should go to Chambers Bay,
get out to San Francisco.
He's like, you guys should go to Japan.
You guys can fit her in Osaka.
Just go to like Pacific Northwest,
go to San Francisco, go to, you know.
So next few years, I think next year's back at caves.
And then it's Belle Reeve.
And Belle Reeve and then Liberty.
Yeah, I'm not gonna win.
I think we gotta go to Belle Reeve,
maybe take in a baseball game.
Tickets are cheap.
I think they could be really.
Oh, yeah, the best way to make
all those fans in Gollum.
You guys could come join me up at Liberty.
I might need paid security
for the next couple of BMW championships.
Solly Might too.
He's been flaming St. Louis on the Seamsters pod.
That's what I'm saying.
They're fans of a band and their team.
Anyways, this is exactly what we said we weren't gonna do.
If you are listening to the pod,
the next section you are gonna hear is our live show
after the AIG Women's Open.
If you are listening to this live,
check out our previous video,
previous live show video right here on our YouTube page.
We chat with Lydia Ko after winning the AIG Women's Open
and everything you could possibly imagine after that one.
So, TC, of course, wouldn't let me finish.
Yep. We'll give you the last word TC.
No I just like to say I'm really proud of Randy,
Cody, Jordan, proud of all of them
but I'm especially proud of Cody this week.
I think he, like the RNA and women's hope and radio
put him out with the last group
and it's kind of an affirmation
like he's really, really, really good on the radio.
Cody, get your ass in here.
We know you're sitting back there.
He just wants to go to bed and you're keeping him from this.
He's across the pond right now trying desperately
to go to sleep.
Big day for the big guy.
Yeah, so.
We get into all that.
It was great to hear you guys talk about it.
Like as folks are gonna listen to that now,
but I was immensely proud of you for not just today,
but the whole week, what you guys did last year,
and how you guys have kind of refined your skillset
on that front.
Thanks, I appreciate it.
This is a nice looking card too.
Dolly, let's do this.
We are out of here, thank you very much.
Crack on, cheers.
Calling in live from across the pond. Mr. Cody McBride, Mr.
Big Randy just got done doing AIG women's radio this week. Fellas, how we doing?
Oh my God, Sully literally buzzing.
I'm not sure the energy inside of this radio cabin booth could truly be any
higher. That was the most extraordinary tournament. I mean, just Cody got
to walk with the final group at an all course open championship. I was in the booth. It just was so
much fun. I can't wait to get into it. Jordan Perez is also with us. She is in the media center.
She's going to be popping in and out. I know she's gonna be doing a little bit
of writing as well.
Hello, Jordan.
Guys, if you don't mind, I'm gonna run through a few,
I'm just gonna run through what happened today
in today's tournament.
This weekend's tournament really.
You guys did a halfway show on Friday.
Nellie Korda had a three-shot lead going into Saturday,
but a tough stretch on the
back nine on Saturday, including an OB ball on the 16th hole brought her in at
75. She fell two back of GA Shin. Lillia Vu entered the final round one back.
Lydia Ko was just three back. We were teed up for an incredible final round.
The conditions were there all week. The front nine here on Sunday was the
gettable side, but it was so low major major backups
I'm sure we're going to talk about some of that
Some traffic issues out there
But Nellie made birdies on the fifth seventh ninth and tenth and got up and down from the Strathbunker on the 11th hole
It looked like it was Nellie time at that point Lily of who and G a shin
Scuffled a little bit in this stretch. They both bogey the 11th hole
and GA Shin scuffled a little bit in this stretch. They both bogey the 11th hole. Lilia also bogey the 10th hole. Nellie Korda was in the middle of 13 fairway
ahead by two at that moment and then Nellie proceeded to make a massive
series of unforced errors on the 14th hole. She pitched over the green with her
third shot from not that difficult of a spot. She failed to get her chip onto the
green from an easy lie. Then she chipped it several feet past the hole with her fifth shot
She I thought she could have easily lagged it up there putted it up there
then missed the bogey putt a double bogey out of nowhere that was just a
The most bizarre sequence of the entire day. I think it got to be a moment. She's gonna be kicking herself
And then from there the action got extremely good. Lydia Ko birdied the 14th hole
in the group ahead of her to get to minus seven, but she gave it right back on the 15th hole.
I'd mark this at 1 10 Eastern time. It was Lilia Vu, Nellie Korda, G.A. Shin and Lydia Ko all tied
at six under par with Lilia and G.I. on the 16th hole and Lydia was teeing off on the 17th. That is
four number ones, former number ones,
tied for the lead on Sunday at the Old Course, final major championship of the year. It was
incredible. On 17th, Lydia hit a fantastic fairway wood from the fairway. It skirted
the bunker, went up to about 25 feet. The rain was pissing sideways at that point. She
made it look like an easy par, but it was only easy because of how good that second shot was.
And there was a, she was putting out on the 18th hole, she stuffs it in there tight on 18 with a rainbow, the sunshine was a flooding there on the green as she makes a birdie putt on the 18th hole.
Nellie had a really good look for birdie on 16 for about 12 feet but missed it left. Nellie then pulls her tee shot in the 17, gets in the road hole bunker, plays out right of the pin and this is right around the time that Lydia's making
her birdie putt to get to seven under par. It already goes in. It'd be impossible for Nellie to
be unaware of what's going on right in front of her. There's no better place to look up
you know from a green to see what's happening on the hole above you. You hear the roar when Lydia
makes her putt and Nellie is a 10 footer for par
that doesn't even come close to reaching the hole,
that had to go in, doesn't even get there.
She falls two back.
And it was just unexplainable.
I'm really struggling to wrap my head around it.
Back nine, final group, G.A. Shannon and Lillia Vu.
It was taking them a little while.
G.A. had some pace problems on the back nine but Lily could just not keep the ball off the
left side of the golf course on the back nine it is very hard to win from there
she's got a birdie the 18th she hits the road with her tee shot gets to 32 yards
away from the pin but pitches well past leaves a putt to get into a playoff at
the women's open way short like inexcus, misses the short par putt to cost herself $300,000.
Lydia Ko has won the AIG Women's Open.
That always takes longer to get through all the play-by-play
than it looks like it's going to, but man,
it was an action-packed, awesome freaking golf tournament
to watch on television.
And guys, something is telling me
that the in-person experience was even better,
and I don't know what that is.
It was incredible.
I want to defer to Cody,
because I was in this radio booth.
I was having the time of my life.
I, like you, Solly, maybe with a little better
TV watching experience,
but I was listening to everybody out on the course.
Cody, you were out there.
What was that moment like?
Just describe that back nine
and going up eventually to 18.
Oh, the first thing I'll say is that yesterday when I was out on the course,
calling the golf on the radio, I was with Lydia Ko and she hit the ball amazing.
But not only off the tee, but her iron striking were so dialed.
It was just at every time that she needed to be within 20 feet,
she was right at like 30, 35 feet. And she was so persistent and dependable. And you
could tell that like she had momentum on her side. And I knew waking up this morning that as long
as she continued to be as dialed as she was, that she has an excellent chance to be in this
tournament. And we sit here today as you know, her being another major champion, adding
another major championship to her resume.
After an unbelievable summer, we started out this year being like, you know,
where's Lydia Coad this she hasn't had the year that, that we all kind of
anticipated because if people think back, I mean, she played great.
She started out kind of on fire and then she got clipped by Nelly at the drive on.
And it's like she disappeared.
Nobody really knew what was going on.
But she's so steadfast, determined, resilient.
She's such an awesome person.
And what it kind of reminds me of is these Yeti products that we use.
It's also dependable.
They hold up no matter what the conditions are
You know you put something cold in on they stay cold you put some hot on them
They stay hot and just like Lydia that they got these Yeti luggage
It's backpack that just happens to be sitting back here. It's got doubles, you know double sewn zippers on it and everything
I've been lugging this thing all around gold course all week. So it's incredible
What I love about Yeti the most is that they sponsor all of our LPGA content
Throughout the entire year. We couldn't do this. We couldn't travel if it wasn't for Yeti. So thank you to Yeti
like first and foremost and
secondly
Everybody go buy some at Yeti comm because if you want us to continue to support the best women golfers in the
world, Yeti's making it happen. So what do you think Lydia? I have nothing left to teach you.
The student has become the master. That was a PhD little segue there, but no, in all sincerity,
you know, I'm just looking back over Lydia Ko's week. She dropped six shots. She made six bogeys over the course of four rounds.
No double bogeys.
Just the epitome of steadiness and her weekend performance,
as you mentioned yesterday, she was just super solid.
Didn't make many putts, but was undeterred.
And you roll forward to today and she did drop the shot on 15,
but we saw Nelly get in trouble.
We saw Nelly make that inexplicable double on 16 in the third round.
You know, Lillia made a double and dropped some shots.
It just was in hindsight, right?
It's easy to see, but like it was Lydia the whole time, wasn't it?
She was just truly unflappable and played the exact style of golf that wins you
an open championship at the old course.
I'm it's so impressive.
Yeah.
It's double bogeys out there that that'll get you in.
That's definitely what changed the outcome of this AIG women's open.
It's it's I'm also, I'm also sorry because I still have radio stuff
on the brain and you get used to saying, you have to say certain things so you say the
entire tournament name and you know when you say full name.
You want to do the old school scene? I feel like we just need to cuss to get back into
the contest mode.
You have to think so hard about what you're gonna say and how you're gonna say it.
It's running coursing through my brain right now.
But the defining moment today of this major championship, the entire golf tournament knew
when Nellie doubled 14.
And it was like, you know, I was, I was a group behind her, but we were a good half a hole, almost a whole hole behind because
GIs like painfully slow.
And I know we're going to talk about slow play with Jenny and Nellie's group as well.
But it's just like, as soon as that double happened, we were lucky that there's a leaderboard
right next to the putting green and Lily like turned and was looking at the leaderboard and she's like, wow, like she thought that she was still like
three behind and she's like, I'm going to win this major championship.
Yeah.
And her and Cole, like they gave each other like this look of like, we're going to go
take this thing and stormed off to the next tee.
We were on 13 at the time, stormed off to 14,
birdied 14, got to 15, and then it's just like
her ball striking went away.
And that's like really what the defining moment of it was.
When Lydia needed to hit the shots, execute the shots
that matter coming down the stretch,
she did that with precision.
And she deserves to win this championship
because it wasn't the big number took out Nelly Korda but for the other really
two chasers Lilia Vu and Ji-Hye Shin it was ball striking like you can't put
yourself trying to make you know 55 60 footers for birdie when you're trying to
make up you know space like that. Yeah and I think what's gonna get overlooked
too you know Lily excuse me uh, excuse me, Lydia,
Lillia, this is where I don't want to confuse them.
Yeah.
Lydia Co.
You know, she missed the green at 16, right?
Coming off, as you said, that bogey on 15, that was a huge spot.
And she calmly got that up and down, hit an excellent chip shot to, I don't know what,
three feet and then the road hole.
Yeah. the excellent chip shot to, I don't know what three feet. And then the road hole.
Yeah. It's not going to be a birdie, but the conditions had deteriorated at that point.
It was pissing Cody knows he was out there.
It was pissing rain sideways and she's playing the most difficult hole on the
course tied for the lead and has a, has a fairway wooden.
I mean, that's the other thing.
We're gonna get into like the,
how it played, how wonderful this course is
with the distances that the women play it at,
but needing to hit a fairway wood into 17
and she hits just the perfect shot.
It lands short, it skirts the road hole, rolls up there
and it's a stress-free par.
Obviously birdie's 18.
It just was so, so, so impressive.
Solly, I want to ask you, you know, in our deep dive podcast to start the week, we
had went into Lorena Ochoa won the first open championship here at the old course.
Stacey Lewis won the second.
Lorena is a hall of famer.
Stacy is a very important person in the women's game.
Looking at the men's side, you got tiger, you got Jack, you got Seve.
How, how cool and how important it is.
How like it seems like winning the open here is a general, like it's a
marker for a generational talent.
And I think that's, that's what's so cool about Lydia
because that is what she has been.
And now it's like, she put the explanation point on it.
Honestly, I hate to like say it this way,
but the more I've thought about it since it happened
was like Lydia needed this win badly.
Like two major Chevron and Evian
cannot be the only two majors that Lydia wins
in her career. Totally agree.
Her resume is, her impact on the game is that much better
and not in like a, you know, just a hype way, right?
It's not like she was supposed to be a prodigy.
I hate to make this comparison,
but not like Michelle Wee, right?
Whose career I don't think, you know,
never really was fully realized.
Lydia had a fully realized career extremely early on.
It just didn't have the major resume to back it.
Now you want a gold medal and you go in at the old course,
three majors, it almost validates the other two
and makes them feel a lot more real now.
And this week was such a, just an exacting test of golf.
It was everything I could ever want out of a golf course
and especially the old course.
I think when the men go to the old course,
it is bomb and gouge, driver flip wedge,
a lot of bunkers aren't in play,
even with a lot of the tee boxes.
And it's like, dude, I still love when they go there
because I still think it's the most fun golf course
in the world.
Would love to see them get the conditions
the women actually got this week,
but it is not the complete set of tests that
this this championship was and there's just so many shots and that's what is so
it's kind of I don't know what the what the video game is called is it is it
monkey run is that like a phone game or something where you gotta like temple
run temple run temple run where you gotta like run this is an ad you gotta
like run this crazy gauntlet of challenges and like you never get to stop.
That's what the old course is.
And I was like, Nellie ran most of it.
That was the hardest thing for me to like digest today.
It was like, do what she did between,
she bogeyed the sixth hole,
but what she did between five through 11.
When the wind was really whipping out on that extended part,
she had these downwind putts
that like she had to play really delicately
and trust that the wind was gonna get it to the the hole and they did and they kept falling in.
Made long birdie putts on, you know, after, you know, she was putting from 130 feet or
something like that on five, but two putted that, seriously, two putted that one, made
the birdie on seven, did what she did around nine and 10.
It was like, that's her tournament, man.
And it just, it's not even like the old course tripped her up. That's the really the part that has to sit so uncomfortable.
It felt self-inflicted, didn't it?
Yes, it was, it was, man.
It was just like, Lillia made a fantastic pitch
into the 14th hole that was not,
ended up making her birdie,
gained three shots on Nellie on that hole alone.
It's just, it was not the hardest shot that really got her.
And she made bogey on the road hole as well, or like, you know, it's just, um, it was not the hardest shot that really got her. And, um,
she made bogey on the road hole as well. But at that point it was,
it was still pretty close to being too late.
So let me ask you this on Lydia going back to Lydia.
I think it's worth at least discussing just
wondering how much golf she has left. Right.
And with the gold medal now with the open championship, like I'm confident
he's going to play out the rest of the year, but beyond that, who knows, Cody?
I, you know, it, it certainly, I think this could be the last time we see
Lydia at the old course as a, you know, as a active professional golfer.
Yeah.
Well, that's part of it.
You know, the funny thing that the RNA does is that they don't really announce the venues that far in the, like in the future.
So that's something, you're right, she already said that she would not be in the Olympics
again.
So that's at least four, in four years from now, she does not plan on playing professional
golf anymore.
Yeah.
Because she 100% would qualify for New Zealand unless I'm missing some barn burner
that's gonna come out in the next four years. But I think you know coming into
this week there's like three situations that were dream world situations of
what would happen. The first and foremost I think if you ask anybody who
attended this event it would have been some form of redemption for Charlie Hall last year at Walden Heath
You know
She finished solo second and for her to win here at st
Andrews and the history and everything the plate I think that would probably have been number one
Number two would have been Lydia Coe and I didn't realize, I guess, how big of a deal it would be, but
there's a lot of countries out there besides the United States that put a ton more weight
behind the Olympics than we do. And it's one of those moments where being around people
and talking about it that aren't really like in, I guess, our golf bubble that like, you
know, that the Olympics, the golf competition side of it like yeah obviously we have our gripes and complaints about it.
What what it is is it's putting golf on a platform to countries that are expanding their growth their golf programs are developmental programs.
Really making it so there's so many people else that are getting into the game and she's like the perfect role model for that.
And I would say just cause I'm going down them, the third option would have been,
you know, Nellie quarter winning her second major of the year after
this unbelievable run.
I saw a comment in here earlier from somebody, uh, Jim freighter in the
chat is, is tuning in and saying that Nellie is overrated.
Well, I wouldn't exactly go that far
because one hell of a season and everybody cools off
and it's almost impossible to keep that momentum going
for that long, but she flat out made mistakes.
Like in, at a place like St. Andrews where like
you cannot make mistakes at the distance
that they hit the ball, the trajectory
that they are hitting ball, the trajectory that
they are hitting these shots into these greens, she just got exposed.
And I'm pretty sure she knows that.
So, yeah, let's, let's talk about Nellie then, because it's a fascinating
conversation, I think, and, and Sally, I'll ask you first, you know, we talked
about some self-inflicted errors that she had that
ultimately proved to be the difference, but she still finished Tide for second. She had a great
week, right? But we just, she carries so much expectations. Is that fair? And like, does this like, why does this feel so disappointing with Nelly?
It's kind of, is it, is it fair? It depends on how you want to look into that, right? Because
we tune into these tournaments to see who's going to win them, right? And it's the what's the lasting
memory of them is going to be, did you execute the shots needed, you know, in the, in the highest pressure to win the championship, right? And that did not happen, right? And I think
we all in the media, everyone in the media tends to have, you know, you zoom in on whoever finished
second. This feels a little bit like Rory at Pinehurst, honestly, in terms of, you know,
combo of Rory at the old course and Rory at Pinehurst. Like, dude, you remember what Rory did
in the middle of that round? It was it was incredible incredible dude. He was making the putts. He was the dude that was like, I am asserting myself in this
championship. I've had my majors on Sundays when I've just kind of withered away and not been a
factor, but I'm a factor now. And he just did two horrifically dumb things coming in. Same exact
thing with Nellie. I mean, it was, she did the hard parts and then just did not execute which
needs to win the championship.
She had some good quotes afterwards, basically high road and saying I'll take a lot of good
that comes from this.
But it just, there's just very few people in golf on the men's or women's side that
when they get the lead, we know it's done deal.
It's almost, I don't know if there's any, I don't know if there's any currently in golf.
There was one that did it for a very long time
and screwed up how we think of a lot of these things,
but it, you know, she just,
it's gonna sound way easier when I say it like this,
but all she needed to do was play it even par
from the middle of 13 fairway on it.
Or hitting a pitch shot from 14 in,
a par five and a reachable.
Four at the 18th,
I know there's some hard holes in between there,
but play it even from there and it's all yours and I just I cannot
understand what happened on that 14th hole so Cody can I put you on the spot
a little bit of course Nellie you know she makes a seven today on the 14th she
made famously what a ten at the women's, uh, the U S women's open earlier this year.
She made a bunch of sevens at the Olympics.
Like, do you, I just find myself solid to your point, like when Nellie's going
well, they're in the middle of a round today, I still don't really have just
the utmost confidence in her.
And I'm wondering, Cody, if you feel that same way and
like, is it just a matter of she's not able to control the damage when things start going a little
sideways? Yeah, we talked about this in both the Olympic recap show, talked about it after the end of the US women's open. It's like, you know, Nellie is fine until there's, there just happens to be like this one little tiny paper cut.
And before you know it, that paper cut has turned into like
this massive just bleeding that cannot be contained
and nobody has a tourniquet and like,
holy shit, that escalated quick.
Holy cow, what the hell is going on?
She got that going on right now and it ain't fun.
And you know, I've been.
Can I pause this just to say though,
she survived two lacerations.
Like Saturday, that back nine Saturday,
I thought she was cooked.
Yeah, you're right.
I thought she was cooked.
But people, you know, people at the end of Saturday,
I think, you know, her birdieing 18,
like really reset her.
Because she had a very poor back nine you're right
and I think the birdie on 18 really like you know sneakily nobody really talked
about Nellie around here yesterday like yesterday afternoon when the round was
done and I was like what are we doing like people think that like she's like
out of this tournament she's too back. Like, this isn't crazy.
And I thought, you know, that she was going to come out and like take control of this
tournament. And that's, you know, she kind of did. She had a birdie on five and then
got to six with that, you know, a bad bogey and then immediately bounce back and birdied
eight or birdied seven hadn't and, know got to birdied nine excuse me and
uh you know it just it's just like she can't control it it's a it's a traffic jam it's a snowball
that just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger and the next thing you know you can see it
in her eyes like that's the bad thing about is that you like he has this look of like oh man like
it's it's not
like really happening again it's like it's just happening and you're like you
feel horrible for because she did everything right this week you know I
think nobody nobody talked about the fact that like she changed her putter
after how amazing she's putted so far this year until Thursday morning on radio.
And Randy and I were talking about it.
And then all of a sudden you got the big J's finally in the press conference.
She was asking questions about the putter change and she's like, yeah, it's very
simple, like it's very, it's windy.
The greens are a lot slower than I'm used to playing.
I needed more weight in a putter and the, you know, this, the mallet that she
switched to provided her weight and she could keep her same stroke and they
would roll the same ways that it would roll back at home for her practicing.
And she wouldn't have to change anything.
And I was like, wow, through the first two rounds, I was like, what a genius
decision, you know, I don't see anybody else who you usually talk about like
wedges and everything else like that.
Nope, not for Nellie. She's like, I know I need need to I need to bake putts and this is how I'm gonna do it
And I figured out you know, the new piece of equipment that's gonna help me do that
But I feel the most comfortable and I was like, yeah, you got it going on
but you know what you guys haven't talked about yet is that I
Really wanted Nellie to win this event
because I think it'd be great for the women's game but as soon as I saw her
this morning and I saw like saw saw the look I was like this ain't happening
because Nike absolutely screwed her giving her black waterproof pants and
took the burgundy away I think yes can I can I leave this on a bit of a positive note
when it comes to Nelly though of like,
man, this was like the term that I needed her to be in
and compete and hit the shots and, you know,
and she did that for 98% of it, right?
This was a proper, proper, proper test.
And if she'd have got, you know,
if she'd have missed the cut here,
I'd have been very, very, very concerned.
Right.
As much as we're zooming in on how it did not happen for her at the end,
like that was one of the realest tests we'll ever see on the men's or women's
side in terms of what is demanded of a golfer.
And she handled so much of it really, really, really well.
Perfectly said.
And I'm glad you did say that because Cody and I were talking last night
before we went to bed. You know, it's almost like the Logan Roy from succession. Like if you didn't
make the cut this week in these conditions and you're on this. Yeah, I don't want to hear.
We just can't consider you serious at this moment. And not only didn't Nellie make the cut,
but sorry to your point, like she played really well for serious at this moment. And not only didn't Nellie make the cut, but sorry to your point, like she played
really well for most of this tournament.
And so it's not like she's unserious.
It's not like, you know, in our parlance, she's not a fluffer.
She, there's just something weird going on where it does feel though, like she.
Somehow lacks a killer instinct, but then it's like, well, she's
won six times and one five times. It's like, well, she's won six times and won
five times.
It's like, it's just all these juxtapositions and honestly it's fascinating.
Like it, it really is.
So I mean, you're right.
I don't know where I net out.
We want to say, you know, we talked a lot this year, the similarities between Scotty
and Nellie, but really like at the end of the day, it's
Rory and Nellie who have way more in common.
They would, they win in buckets and those are great wins.
Don't get me wrong.
They're just not the wins that like we kind of want from our capital P, you know, proper
players.
Um, and that, that stinks because she's, she has an amazing season going.
I will say that there is some things that she can look at as she goes about.
Like she does not have like a crazy good Lynx golf record.
And you know, this is definitely her best performance.
She probably could look at skipping the Scottish,
but I understand this year because of the Olympics and, you know, there's a lot
going on and then I think back to it.
I'm like, well, she didn't play like anything else in July.
The last of the only event outside of like preparing for the Olympics was the
Evian, she didn't play good at the Evian.
And then before that in June, she missed every cut.
She missed three cuts in a row.
So those three missed cuts of T 26. And then if you go look at her results, they missed every cut. She missed three cuts in a row. So those three missed cuts of T 26.
And then if you go look at her results, they're all wins.
So it's hard to poke a lot of holes in it.
Yeah.
Well, let's, uh, I think Nellie's going to continue to be fascinating.
I can't wait to see her the rest of the year.
I want to talk about Lily of who for a few minutes.
I, you know, that, that last
little hiccup on 18, Sally, you said cost her close to $300,000. That's super, super unfortunate for
her. I was shocked that she left that first putt that short. I, I would have bet all the money in
my bank account that she was going to give that a run.
So that's disappointing. But I do think Lilia, like she instills more confidence in me than
Nellie, I think. Like today coming down the back nine, I always kind of felt like it was going to be Lilia. She, and fair or not again, like I just feel like she has a knack for that
birdie put on 12 that she, that she ran in, like she had no business making
that birdie put and coming off two bogeys.
Like, I feel like she has a knack for just finding that birdie when she
absolutely has to, and I don't know.
I just, she kind of remains a killer in my mind, even though she comes up short, but I mean, hell of a title defense.
So do you feel that way about Lily? Like straight up, who do you kind of have more confidence in down the stretch?
I want to first give credit to you, Big. You have been steadfast in whenever like we slip up and are not talkingillia enough, you will plant your flag and say,
like, don't forget about Lillia,
don't forget about Lillia.
So credit to you on that one.
Second, like, all right,
this is maybe too much of an excuse to give her,
but I saw the look in her eyes on 17
while she's waiting of the absolute frustration
in pace of play of when you are playing with
a very slow player and I think they were put on the clock confirmed where they put that
final group.
We're not put on the clock.
People on Twitter were saying that they were but I mean the final group is finished out
on 18 and GA Shin is taking forever with her third shot there and Lily was standing up
right by the road hole bunker.
She's looking at her like watching this unfold leaning on her putter like looks down the
18th hole.
And it was like, I know that feeling of like,
fuck we're behind and it's not my fault,
but I'm the only one that cares about this thing.
And it's the worst place to be on a go.
It's, it is so unnerving.
And like the only way to explain the putt on 18
is like she was unnerved, right?
Like she was taken out of that moment.
And I did not, there's some pace stuff that was going on that I think is st. Andrews and conditions more driven than it was slow
players but then there's also like very clearly when that group fell behind it
was very clearly GHN that was causing that and it's really unfortunate that
again it's too much of an excuse to say that cost Lily of the championship and
maybe a little bit over dramatic but it played a factor because she just looked
kind of I
Don't want to say lifeless on the back nine just like hurt. She did not look locked in
She did not seem locked in she got visibly frustrated on an approach out on a 16
I think she swore at it and the broadcasts like it wasn't pleased with that one
It just was like that didn't seem like the, a typical Lillia attitude with three holes left
in a major championship.
And again, maybe I'm projecting all that pace stuff,
but it looked like it had, it played a role
in how she handled that finishing stretch.
It was just unfortunate.
Definitely did, definitely did.
See, they were very chatty on the front nine
on their way out.
And by the time we came, you know,
wrapped back around and got to 12T, it was a completely different story. There's no longer chatty and I, you know,
it's easy to say, oh, yep, you know, we're on our final nine, we're coming home in a
major championship, but it's, I want to point out the GI was attempting to
continue conversations and Lillio was not having any of it. Yo man, we gotta go.
We gotta get this thing going.
She's a killer.
This is not the way this is going to go down.
And, uh, she had enough of it.
And I'll say it, I think it definitely affected her on 10 and 11.
11 is such a tough par three.
And.
You know, she hit a shot that was way too spinny.
She knew the contact was off.
And when she watched it float just way too far right,
she knew that that was gonna be trouble from there.
But unforced, three putt.
And I think really when we got down to it,
you talked about the 16th hole
and she had a really good lot lie in that rough
left a 16 and it was on a little bit of an upslope and she almost like
It looked like she got like crazy steep
likes just kind of straight up chunked it and
It was this a high weird spinner and was helped a little bit by the wind pushing it more
high weird spinner and was helped a little bit by the wind pushing it more right to left than it probably should have, but left herself way too big of a leave there.
And you know, GIs just kind of making a mess of things.
And that's really like, it was kind of chilly between the two then.
And then that's when it was like, yo man, like, let's go.
I'm trying to grind on shit and like be in this
tournament and you know it just wasn't happening by the time we got to 17
though I think Lillian knew she looked at the scoreboard she knew where Nellie
was at and she knew what she had to do on 17 and just you know left that those
two putts like he said short coming. It's just such a disappointment.
I know she felt that Cole felt it.
He was like, he was very chatty on the back nine, which is interesting.
I thought it was because like Lillia was no longer talking to him.
But I think he was just trying to let stress out.
Another fun thing of like when you're in the ropes and you're
like walking right next to him, he is one that's just like, you know,
we'll talk and just tries to keep it as chill and relaxed and tries to relax her when she was, you know, sitting there like dig
and deep for it.
Yeah.
I, a few things to add.
Lillia has a bad back.
And if you want to talk about the two things that are terrible when you have a
bad back,
it's cold weather and then just standing around, just waiting.
Right.
And so I'm sure that plays a little bit of a factor.
I'll also maintain, I think it was probably a bad break that her drive hit the road on 18.
It was.
And bounced up as close to the green as it did.
I think she would much rather have a full swing wedge into 18 than having to play that little 32 yard pitch shot.
So that's unfortunate.
She should have not have hit that pitch shot. There are so many other options and she's pulled those shots off all week and I could not believe that she took it tried to hit it that high
and like in the from that position you just yeah that's not not gonna happen
yeah yeah sorry I fully expect to hit that shot tomorrow I guarantee you my
drives gonna hit end up right there and I'm gonna be like oh I'm gonna hit this
you know high floaty nipper or something like that probably blow in the grand
stalley saying putter would you give thought to putter?
A hundred percent I would.
Yeah. Are you first time playing the old tomorrow, Cody?
It is. That's great news. First time on the old tomorrow for the, well, for me, but the big fella,
you know, he's going to hold my hand around here.
Yeah. So I don't know. I, Lily is, Lily is great. I just think she's dude, she is a freaking fighter. I feel like she's got more killer, maybe the most killer tendencies of anybody out on the LPGA tour right now. And I thought we, she showed flashes of that.
Just real quick on that too, like just pausing like almost both Nellie and Lillia almost just got into the club that that Lydia just got into. Yeah, yeah.
Like the three major clubs.
Yeah.
It's hard to knit too close, like pick too closely.
I mean, Lillia won two majors last year.
This would have been another year with a major win, any year where she's battled injuries.
It's just, you know, it's just worth highlighting how both Lillia and Nellie in playing this
good of golf, number one, number two in the world,
both with the chance to win the back night at the old course. Like this was,
it was a fricking awesome golf tournament, man. It was the venues,
the venues matter, man. They really, really, really do. And yeah,
it was just incredible to watch from the jump on Thursday. I mean, it was, uh,
I'm sure in person, you guys are just buzzing.
Yeah, no, I mean, it truly was that solid.
Like they were in that goes back to Thursday, right?
When they put Lillia, Charlie and Nellie all together.
I'm thinking, ah, God, they've just jinxed it.
Like no way they're all three going to play well, but those three
balled out the first two rounds.
And so from the jump, this event was awesome.
And with Charlie Hall being the first round leader, like it just, it checked
every box throughout the week and the conditions were always present.
The course played amazing.
It feels elevated, like kudos to the RNA.
Like we get to do radio that they have radio wall to wall radio coverage at this event.
It's this is it, man.
In the women's game, like, it feels like the US Open
and the British Open are lifting and separating
from the other three majors.
And yeah, it's venues, it's build out,
it's everything like that.
I don't want to get out of this discussion
with at least recognizing Ronny Yin
and she battled her fucking ass off.
21 years old.
Like she showed me this week, like she's amazing, like she's every bit
deserving to be among the world class.
And like, we need to be talking about her when we get to serious events,
bad side of the draw, hung in there.
Like her, her play coming down the stretch.
She burned edges on 16 and 17, needing birdies to try to catch the lead.
She was the one like outside of Lydia today that I come away with thinking like,
holy shit, what a day she had.
I don't know, Sally, if that really came through on TV or not,
but I just need to call her out as well.
You're baiting me into TV stuff that I'm not ready to do just yet.
Let me sing her praises. I think, you know, we talk about the draw and how difficult it was.
That first day, we all knew, we talked about it in the happy hour. We knew that it was going to be frisky and she went out and shot 68 in that weather and was like, wow, that's crazy good. Only matched by Charlie,
which Charlie went out in the afternoon and it was completely different playing conditions
there. But Ronnie hung in there, shot even par second round, one over yesterday. And
then that 70 today when like really, you know, she wasn't in the conversation
She forced herself to be in the conversation. She's already a major champion
Like I'm right there with you big big big big time stuff
Is there anything else before I think we need to talk about the course?
We need to do a little hamster damn and everything
But let's let's shout out some people here as we scroll down this leaderboard
Yeah, can we do like a little in honor of TC? Is there like little music we can play or anything?
Good to see a area Jutanigarn. Honestly, you know, major champion, former number one.
That's like somebody made the point on Twitter, like the top six finishers on this leaderboard
have all been world number ones at some point. It's, it's just ridiculous.
And I think again, points out like, Hey, you want to talk about a venue that
brought out the best of the best?
Uh, there's, there's your evidence.
I had five names, so I'll go through them very quickly.
Actually T7 was Cassandra Alexander, like had never finished better than 72nd
in a major champion, a late qualifier
into this event, a career week for her.
So kudos to her, the South African.
I have Alexa Pano, Cody, you've been on her block.
I was super impressed.
I thought she was going away Saturday.
She did not.
I thought she was going away today.
She hung in there, just turned 20 years old, very excited about her future.
Uh, Angel Yin is somebody, obviously we're all big fan of Angel. in there, just turned 20 years old, very excited about her future.
Uh, Angel Yin is somebody, obviously we're all big fan of Angel.
Um, I think she showed enough for sure to be a captain's pick for the Solheim cup.
She finished T12 and coming off a T2, her last start in Portland has
experience, like she answered the bell this week, hat tip to her.
And she's somebody else that's told us in the past, Cody, like,
I want to play hard courses.
Why don't they set up courses harder on the LPGA tour?
And we get to a hard course and she plays good golf.
Like back to Logan Royce.
She's a serious person.
Um, last two Lynn Grant, God, I wish she could have had a better opening
round because it seemed like she was starting to play better every single day.
Her fit was like, do the kids still say like on fleek?
Is that a word?
I don't know.
Let me see if Jordan, let me see if Jordan's around.
Yeah, bring Jordan in.
Jordan said no, no, no, no, no longer on fleek.
Okay.
We're not saying on fleek.
Uh, she inexplicably doubled 18 on Thursday,
like the first person ever in this event on the women's side to double 18.
So props to her. And then that's incredible. Charlie Hall.
I don't know if you guys want to talk about Charlie Hall. I mean,
disappointing weekend. I don't know. Maybe we just chalk it up to,
she didn't have it. Maybe it's the pressure. I don't know, Cody,
is there anything more to read into Charlie I mean we talked about her start right 67
72 75 75 that's that just ain't it but you know she made the big mistake that
you can't do around the old course and that's hit it in these bunkers it's kind
of the same thing I know it's it's taken off since but roses in the same boat you
know you can't hit these bunkers and expect to act like it's some
You know, of course in the middle of michigan where you can just advance whatever club out of it
You're gonna be fine. You gotta learn how to play it and uh, that just clearly wasn't the case
Disappointing though charlie a lot of people around here super disappointed because the weird thing is that she ended up finishing at one over
Georgia finished at two over and a lot more people were more bullish on Georgia than they were on Charlie
Georgia obviously had a huge miss up Saturday shot 76, but
I'll say this after watching golf this weekend as
An American fan for the Solheim Cup, I am scared shitless because the European
squad is like operating on full cylinder right now. You're at Carlota, which again, I'm surprised
when we talk about pace of play, her name usually comes up. Absolute killer. It's just like even
Leona like Leona a little bit of form. Albae, Venom, your way, like came out of nowhere shot 66 on Saturday.
Like it's one of those things where I had a couple of run-ins with, uh,
captain Suzanne Pedersen and it's funny because she's like, oh yeah, I'm
monitoring, you know, monitoring my team, uh, and how they're doing this weekend.
Fully knowing that like everybody around her is like,
Oh, her picks have already been done. Like it's honestly the play. The play doesn't really matter.
She's dead solid, like rock solid locked in with the team that they have.
I guess they're already aware of it into a blue trappings picks.
So I'm sorry for the people, I guess, who listen to this, who haven't been talked to.
It didn't make the team.
Whoops. That's eventually going to happen. Whereas shit, I didn't make the team. Whoops, that's eventually gonna happen.
Whereas obviously, you know,
Stacey's going about it a different way.
So we'll see what happens,
but man, Team Europe absolutely on fire right now.
And you look at the team that they took last year,
it'll probably be like Gemma, Dry Bird's probably
not gonna be on that team.
And I'd say Caroline and Hedwall going to be the two really that stick out.
You have so many options of others.
Like Linnea Strom is in the picture now.
Like she won a couple of weeks ago, had a good finish here.
Like it's somebody who can go deep.
And I think like, when you talk about a soulheim cup, you want somebody who's
like going to make a ton of birdies.
Yeah, you're right.
And I think we can, well, I'd be shocked if Esther Henslite didn't, like she has
to have one of those Gemma or a headwall.
Right.
So she's one of the new ones in.
And so it really comes down to that last pick.
I will say though, like look at the Americans, Angel, Nellie, Lilia, like
they're, it's going to be a good Solheim cup here in a couple of weeks.
Couple other shout outs I'll say before, as we continue down this leaderboard.
I didn't expect Lexi to play the golf that she did. She fucking battled her ass off and fully
knowing that this is not only the last time she'll be at the old course playing in AIG women's open,
but more than likely the last AIG Women's Open ever,
you know, she hung tough and she got that fight.
And for somebody who is like pending retirement right now, I just didn't expect her to be
like grinding it out the way that she was, which makes me think of like, are we going
to see her more than we imagine?
Like is she just saying that she's not going to play a full season, but she's
going to be very selective at these big time events and she's going to show up
to really have no idea.
I was surprised to see the wave on the bridge.
Uh, I was, I was surprised by this.
I thought it was, I thought the whole thing was like, no, she's going to play
majors.
Um, I don't know what she'd need to do to qualify.
I'm sure it would be just don't think she likes traveling.
You know, she doesn't even play like the Evian.
So I'm sure she's like, uh, who was it a couple of years ago?
Bubba when he's like, ew, they have weird food.
Like I'm sure he's just, she just doesn't like British fare.
Yeah.
Um, all right.
Shout outs real quick, Sally, cause you said venues matter.
I want to tell people next year this event is going to
Royal Porthcrawl in Wales.
Our guy Marcus Buckland who we worked with all week,
we're like, yeah, what's that going to be?
Better weather than this? He's like,
honestly, I went a couple of years ago for the senior opening.
He was like, it's biblical.
Yeah. He's like, that's the worst conditions I've ever encountered.
Cool.
Got that to look for.
Then we know in 2026
it's going to Royal Lithum and St. Anne's. Solly, I you know all these. Yeah, what's you that's good, right?
Oh, very good. Very very good. Porthcall is great for the women's game like the I don't think the men's game would fit on.
I've never been to Porthcall, but I think it's a I've seen I've watched the senior open there. I've seen enough of that golf course.
I've really it's a probably a top 10 or 15 course
in the world that I wanna play that I haven't been to.
Like it should be, it should be really cool.
It doesn't have the same gravitas, obviously,
as some of these other courses
that are on the men's road, but a worthwhile thing to do.
Come on over with us next year.
You're not gonna be busy.
You have so many kids though, man.
I know, I know.
Hey, the other thing that we need to talk about, I think I'm going to bring JP in because, uh, you know, obviously very, very happy to
have JP part of the team here, but she's like the expert when it comes to, uh, the amateur
game. I'm going to do my best to buffer her background noise here. Um, but, uh, let's
talk about the Smith Salver Lottie Wode hell of a year. Obviously one at Anwar has competed in almost every major. I'm pretty sure this year, but ends up winning the Smith-Dalvar. Lottie Wode, hell of a year. Obviously won an Anwha, has competed in almost every major
I'm pretty sure this year, but ends up winning the Smith-Dalvar award by a pretty good margin. JP?
Yeah, I first of all, I just want to flex a little because I was totally all in on
from Friday onward and
She did it.
But anyway.
Just really going out on a limb there
with the number one ranked woman in the world too.
Okay, when Luis Reiquist shoots a bogey free 67
and someone named TC, you know,
makes me feel a little bit bad for picking Lottie,
I just have to put that out there.
So, um,
Nevermind.
If you want to stunt on TC, please take a few more minutes.
Take all the time you want.
Okay.
Yeah.
No, but, um, yeah, just a tremendous year for Lottie.
I think, I think in watching her since Anwar, I've grown to really, really appreciate the kind of golf she plays because I think it's a game that's going to end up translating extremely well professionally.
The versatility of the courses that she's performed well on, her, you know, she's...
Let me just put this into better context. Wins at Augusta National,
won at Carnoustie a few years ago,
now is the low M at the old course.
That's some serious stuff.
Not only that, she is playing like a you know an obviously a very respectable amateur schedule but she's going up against the
best like in the women's game and holding her own and not even holding her
own like making people ashamed of themselves. Yeah there's I there's times
where I struggled to really understand just how well the litmus test called golf
can be for on the women's side specifically, and the courses they play and kind of the
style of golf they're generally playing in college golf. And I think Lottie is someone
who kind of supersedes all of that and is just has such a very good experience. I mean,
gosh, I got I got to
watch her a little bit today just passing through just kind of checking out
some of the conditions up on the back nine and I just watched her pipe it on
14 which was not an uncommon thing for her to do I just really wasn't surprised I
was like cool it's just lotty gold stuff into like what like 35 mile per hour gusts it felt like
sweet, um
and so I remember I asked her in
In quick quotes afterward today
I was like if you just always kind of been that way like it did and what kind of give you that boost to keep
Being so confident and so aggressive and she's like well, I've kind of always been that way
I mean, she's like I you know I tried to tailor it back to be a little bit smarter
but she's like she's like honestly I was focusing on the people ahead of me not behind me and
then I asked her did you come into this weekend trying to win this and she's like why not
there was nothing to lose and. Sorry.
Yeah, I do have like major concerns, though,
not about her game at all, but like her swing.
I feel like her back could be in for a reckoning there and how like
the position that she's in and impact and then really like her coming through.
It seems like she arches her back so hard.
It literally the dad back and me saw you have to feel this too.
It like sends like shivers down my spine.
I'm like, Oh my goodness.
Hold on a second to be young again.
I'm, I'm not smart enough to see that stuff.
Uh, Jordan, I'll just say, I picked up on that too, watching her lotty today.
Like she was legitimately
pissed making bogeys, like it wasn't like, Oh, I'm just out here having fun.
I'm going to be low.
I am like, she, she wanted to win the golf tournament and that was really cool to see.
Yeah.
I, there was a pretty deep emotional investment in this event.
Uh, she touched on that a little bit after her round today, but on Friday specifically,
I noticed there were a lot of birdie opportunities that she missed even though she had a good round.
And she was visibly frustrated.
And I didn't really see a ton of that during ANWWA week, so I found it to be pretty curious.
But she said, you know, this is the one that's been on her calendar that's been marked.
She's been looking forward to this since she won ANWOC.
You know, she basically kind of tailored her entire summer for this week and for the Curtis
Cup.
So this was kind of, and I thought, I love that.
That was so refreshing to hear.
Because I think you never really get into like a lot of these specifics of
how amateurs are tailoring their summer, what they're doing, et cetera, et cetera.
And I appreciated that because it, she kind of just, the way that she's talking, the way
that she's performing, I'm just like, gosh, you were just really giving me like pro vibes.
Like you are a legit number one.
But sometimes, sometimes, sometimes I feel like the Viagra can be a little misleading.
Okay.
I had a hundred for sure.
Yeah.
We can get, we can get into that conversation another day, but, uh, she's
a legitimate number one and I honestly guys, I, I, I was familiar with Lottie
Wode's game, but truly coming out of this week, I, I'm kind of a big Lottie Wode's game, but truly coming out of this week, I'm kind of a big Lottie
Wode fan girl now. Like, I am all in on Lottie Wode, and I'm curious to see how she does next week
at the Curtis Cup, because, I mean, not only is she a good match-play player, but I think the
interesting part of it is her team is not favored. She might be the number one amateur in the world,
but Gibi and I is not favored in the Curtis Cup.
So I'm curious to see how much caring she might have to do,
and how much it would benefit them.
It's just a tremendous week for her.
I think after Saturday when Luis Reikers
kind of played out of it,
it kind of looked inevitable for Ladi, but today Julia Lopez-Ramirez kind of had a of it. It kind of looked inevitable for Lottie, but today
Julia Lopez Ramirez kind of had a nice run this morning and then she bogeyed
four holes in a row. I think it was like 14, 15, 16, and 17. So at that point it
was Lottie's, but just a tremendous day from her. Yeah, I can't say enough good
things about Pottie Walker. Yeah, you said't say enough good things about Connie Woker.
Yep, you said she's off to the Curtis Cup next week at Sunningdale. Captain by Katrina Matthew
and surprisingly, you know, Katrina played in this Open Championship, missed the cut, retired,
had had Lexi's moments on Friday on the Swilken Bridge, who would have thought.
That was cool. They, Stacey Lewis, like kind of called her back to like, come, come, come.
Scottish modesty. Yeah. She didn't, she did not want to do that. Um, Jordan,
I just quickly get you out with this question. First time out of the country.
Good trip. How'd you find Scotland? How'd you find St. Andrews?
I've been really trying hard all week to not make the, my first time out of the
country being my one personality trait, but it's the one thing people have been
asking me all week and I, I'm really kind of leaning into it, you know, I think.
I came in to the week feeling really overwhelmed and just like hoping I, you
know, to do a good job
and that I would beat jet lag and all these things.
And I, you know, I think there's just a sense of like
warmness and excitement.
And I think St. Andrew's really,
I was talking to someone about this.
It kind of takes you, it kind of really removes you
from modern life in the coolest way and
my
I'm I was just so into it, you know, and sometimes you need that and as as much as I
much as I love the states and
America and all that stuff. I
I truly I love st. Andrews. I loved the old course.
I think it was even cooler than I could imagine.
I wrote this in an article.
I mean, first of all, I think people might've been concerned
for me on Thursday as I was walking the course
and I stared at one too many of hot bunkers.
Like I was like transfixed and I think it one too many of hot bunkers like I was like
Transfixed and I think it was probably really concerning that I was like, holy moly
Like they're that deep there that I'm five to by the way, so like Jordan I was gonna say you know
You might never get out
Jordan I got a question for you. I think, you know, you've been an excellent
addition. We forced you to do a lot of firsts this week. So we kind of surprised
you. We have to do a stage session here in the fan village and you know, everybody
knew that Randy and I were going to do it, but we made Jordan go up there with
us. You rocked it. Shout out to Richard, by the way. Yeah, shout out to Richard and the stage crew.
And also Richard's buddy who we have to sell these and send.
Do a King Lear in Dallas.
No, honestly, Richard's awesome. And you rocked it. And we forced you to come on radio. And I know
uncomfortable it was, but you rocked it. Like truly, it's been incredible seeing you come into
your own and not just, you know, do what you're really good at.
And that's writing and everything else.
So what are the people to expect?
What are you writing about tonight?
Because I'm curious.
I am writing Lydia Ko.
And I don't know, I, Cody, we talked about this a lot, not on the last RPG episode we did before the deep dive.
We talked about this a little bit
in like how I could relate to Lydia Ko
in the small ways that I can.
I kind of see a lot of myself in her
and like I appreciate just how forthcoming she is
and how she's always kind of willing
to give you that window into her soul a little. And I don't know, I could always, I could listen to her talk
all day, but certainly there's elements of Liliacos career and kind of this final part
and the past year of it that I feel, you know, could tie into some of my own recent experiences. And so, yeah, that's gonna go deep into that.
Kind of got in my feels when I saw,
when I saw Lydia watching Lilia miss her putt on 18.
I mean, she just kind of,
it just, the biggest weight kind of fell off her shoulders.
I mean, she was nervously kind of standing
with her husband for some time and clutching onto him.
And I thought I just, I don't know, just seeing that in person was just so touching.
It was awesome.
Well, yeah, I agree.
I can't wait to read what you get, but we'll let you out here and let you get back to writing
as we continue to go down the leaderboard or get to Hampshire.
No, we're not going down the leaderboard. Thank, thank you, Jordan.
Uh, her piece will be up at no laying up.com ASAP.
Quickly, quickly.
Can I share my favorite Lydia Ko quote from the week?
Is it going to spoil your piece?
Maybe a little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hold that.
But that says a heck bit. Yeah. Yeah. Hold that. You got to keep that chambered.
But that says a heck of a key.
If you want to read it, you can find that in the laying up.
There you go.
Expertise there, JP.
Now we're going to save JP.
Thank you.
Um, before we wrap up and I want to wrap it, we got so much left to go.
I hit a shank on live TV.
No, I'm not.
I, you didn't let me finish. We're going to get into our radio experience and all the shit we did.
So, Ollie, I do want to ask you, because my menshees were just blowing up. I hate to turn the tone of this conversation.
KVV tagged you in a Louisville PD.
It wasn't that. What was the coverage like back stateside? What was it like watching this event on television?
Hold on.
Guys, before we get there, I got some,
Solly, I got some I need you to cover for me real quick.
Okay.
Jordan said she loved hearing from Lydia Ko,
hearing a lot of what she had to say.
Why don't we bring in Lydia Ko to the show
and congratulate the EG Women's Open Champion, Lydia Ko.
Thank you guys.
Crazy last few hours. I don't even know what's happening right now.
Well, you're on. Go ahead, Rady.
Yeah, no, Lydia, I mean, you played, we were talking about it earlier in the show,
you played the most consistent golf that the conditions and the course demanded of you all week.
It was, you know, at the beginning of the week, it wasn't quite clear who was going
to emerge, but by the end of this tournament, it was only going to be you.
And my question to you is, if you could have picked one major and one course, I mean, could
you have picked a better place than the old course this week?
It just seems like the perfect place for you to capture your third major championship.
Yeah.
Um, honestly, I feel like these past three weeks have been, uh, I'm like a character
in the fairy tale.
Um, too good to be true.
You know, things happening again and again and again.
Um, no, I, this is my second time playing at St.
Andrews and I think when I first came here as a 16 year old I didn't really
understand you know how historic and iconic this place is but now that I'm a
little older I think I've gotten to realize like how amazing and how lucky I
am just to be here and I just had so much fun and I think because it was so windy at times,
like all I could do was just laugh because I hadn't seen a ball react like that in the air.
My warm-up session on Thursday was the most ridiculous warm-up session I've ever done
before, teeing it up at a tournament. But here I am and to say that I just won the women's open
It's I mean, it's crazy and even when I hold the pot on the 18th
I don't think I realized like oh I could potentially win this thing
Yeah, yeah what we saw you, you know, the TV picked you up coming down 18
You look just carefree you and Alexa were just the TV picked you up coming down 18. You looked just carefree.
You and Alexa were just, it looked like you guys were just talking about whatever
you're talking about.
I mean, how did you keep that at least outwardly?
You looked so calm.
What, what were those emotions like inside?
I guess.
Yeah.
I said the 18th and first hole is the narrowest hundred yard fairway
Because you know, it's so wide that like you really shouldn't miss it but then
She just say never say never right?
But yeah, I've been
paired up with Alexa quite a few times, you know over these past couple years and she's somebody that I really enjoy playing with and
same for like Mr. Pano.
But you know we were just enjoying it. We were laughing about how windy it was and you know I said like I'm probably not gonna be able to walk straight and I'm probably leaning in some direction
now and yeah it's just uh I think we were like both just talking about this whole week as a whole. And I knew that I don't know when the Women's Open is returning here,
but it always seems like it's a while till it rotates back.
And I think by that time I probably won't be playing.
So this could potentially be my last time walking down over the bridge and
down the 18th hole and
yeah just to be able to finish off with a birdie you know on any championship 72nd hole is
is a great feeling and for that to be the clinching shot for me to win is is pretty awesome.
Yeah incredibly cool and and I know you mentioned the next time and and you're coming off your Olympic gold medal dad to your silver and bronze
and it seems like
You're you're playing such good golf right now and in our world in the media world
Everybody is like well wins wins Lydia like retiring like why is she when she going away which seems so weird to me
Yeah, it's um, I think you know, I don't know at what age I said it, but I said, I want
to retire when I'm 30.
And somebody in the press conference asked me earlier this weekend, said, do you think
it's a love hate relationship with golf?
And I was like, of course.
And some days just hate, hate, hate.
And I mean, the day like today is just all love.
But, you know, I mean, we all play this ball, you know,
one day you turn up and you feel great and you shoot 68,
and then one day you shoot a 78,
and it really wasn't that far different.
So, you know, for me, I'm just enjoying this moment.
But, you know, I've had my fair share of ups and downs. And I'm excited for these next three weeks
just to be able to celebrate and take everything in
and also just assess everything going forward.
But this is not the last tournament I'm playing in.
There's still a lot of golf ahead.
But I'm just excited for the future.
And I'm excited for those you know, those questions about
are you going to win a major again?
Are you going to get in the Hall of Fame?
All those things to be done.
And I mean, August has been a hell of a month.
Yeah, seriously.
That's an understatement.
That's an understatement.
Lydia, your day to day, I'm just wondering as you start to decompress a little bit, I
mean, the shot that sticks with me,
and I think the shot that will stick with me is,
I assume it was maybe a three wood into 17
when the rain was sideways.
What do you think your best shot out there was today?
Yeah, probably the 17th hole.
It doesn't matter if you've got a 10 shot lead
or you're from behind or you teed off
first thing this morning
or the last group out, the 17th hole is in your head.
And it was in my head even before I teed off.
But the good thing about having such a long distance in is that I knew that even if I
smoked my three wood, it was never going to be long.
So the road was completely out of play,
which was, you know, it was great to have that,
you know, one part off.
You know, it was raining and gray
and I don't have very good eyesight anyway.
So I just said, you know, I just got to put a solid,
you know, contact on it and just commit to it
and see what happens.
And for me to, you know to hit it on the same tier
and make a pretty stress-free par in the end on that hole,
I think that was probably the biggest sigh of relief.
And that hole can get to you,
but I parred it all four times this week
and I think that's probably one of the biggest things
that I'm proud of.
Lydia, the old course at St. Andrews
is like a 20,000 piece puzzle, right?
It's not, you know, you can't just sit down and solve it.
You join an incredible list of champions
on this golf course.
What have you learned about this golf course
that has allowed you to have the week
where you beat all of the best players in the world?
How would you describe the strategy
and the execution test of the old course?
I think when I actually played here in 2013, the first day we had no wins and I came off the golf course thinking,
no, this is like quite playable.
You know, it's, uh, and it was very, um, comparative to Hoylake
the year before.
Um, and I was like, Oh, this is easy.
No, I think I'm going to have a good week. And then Friday came and the weather God was like, oh, this is easy. You know, I think I'm going to have a good week.
And then Friday came and the weather God was like, you're going to get humbled
real quick and it was some of the toughest conditions I had played in.
And I think because that was so tough, you know, going forward, I never take,
you know, a good sunny day for granted.
I'm like, okay, this is Scotland.
It could change in a heartbeat.
And I think when we did get rain and wind,
I was like, welcome to Scotland, they say.
So I was just laughing over it.
But yeah, sometimes it was really difficult
because I was aiming 50 yards left
of where I wanted the ball to finish.
And this with my shot shape, you know, the front line was hard sometimes to commit to
aiming so far left because of the wind. But, you know, I think for the most parts,
I really trusted my lines and I feel like my ball striking has improved this past couple months.
And I think that really was crucial for me coming down
the stretch in Paris and then definitely here with some,
you know, dramatic halls to finish.
Well, we're going to let you go here.
I know you got some celebrated to do,
but do I hear you also have maybe some golf travel coming up
soon, maybe kind of far away from where you are now,
but similar style of play. Is that right?
Yeah. I would, I have a, uh,
couples golf trip to bend in June's next weekend.
I've personally never been there, heard a lot of amazing things about it.
But, um, the,
our friends sent us like a weather forecast and it looked very
similar to the temperature and I'm pretty sure it's going to be windy.
So at least I'm ready for it's gonna be windy so at
least I'm ready for what's ahead but after that I'm excited to just see my
ball curve less than like 20 yards left to right and yes you know it's just
gonna be nice to have some time off and you know be home and spend some time with
my husband and my puppy as well. Awesome.
That's awesome.
Have an absolute blast.
Guys, she's one of us.
She's excited to go to band and I love it.
Lydia, again, congratulations.
2024 AIG Women's Open.
It's incredible.
You've had an incredible August, just like you said.
In the Hall of Fame.
Yeah, Hall of Fame.
Have a month, why don't you? I should change my birthday to August. God that's so cool. Anyway, enjoy the
rest of the night. Have some drinks. Enjoy your family and friends. But congratulations from all
of us and thank you for joining us. Thank you Lydia. Thank you for having me. Yep, congratulations. Cheers. How about that, guys? That's pretty freaking cool. What a world. This is nuts.
TC in here. Lydia's gonna be a big fan of trails. Of course, TC. Thank you for joining the program.
Anybody else who wants to... This is at the moment of the show where I'm gonna start reading the
chat. Well, I was originally put an hour governor on this. And then we like we found out that Lydia was going to join the show.
And I think we're all like, oh, we got to go.
Like, come on. Another hour, baby. Let's go.
I'm second. I was having a nightmare.
I thought you were going to make me hamster damn while she's waiting in the background.
Well, that's where Randy was going.
I'm like, dude, I'm on cloud nine now.
Like, I don't even want to ask you about that.
I don't want to kill the buzz.
We listen.
I think the coverage was what we all know and expected to be.
Unfortunately, it's worse than that.
That's the problem.
Yeah.
It just, yeah, it's, well, I'll say this.
Okay.
So it was, it was worse than we expected it to be I'll say
It's it's very interesting that the default
excuse for a lot of the issues that you had saw in your viewing today and the people listening is
Because it comes down to the world feed
But I also know the like
These are the same companies that are paying money for these rights and if they wanted their own feed
They would invest in that and actually make it happen and that's not happening
So I think we could go around and have the same conversation that we always have but it's just bad
I know you said what was that yesterday that they didn't even have audio for a while
Yeah, the middle of the broadcast yesterday,
they just lost their audio and then all of a sudden
they picked up with what I assumed to be the Sky audio
at a certain point.
But it was, I mean, it was just like,
as it got really action packed,
at one point they went four golf shots
in between commercials and then like they were
in commercial while Nello was hitting her approach
into the 17th hole of the whole course.
Like it's just like, again, they didn't show a shot
on the 72nd hole of a major earlier this year, right?
So it's not like the standard hasn't been set though.
And it's just kind of is what it is
and it's always gonna be.
And it doesn't mean, it just doesn't mean that like
they get off the hook for us calling it out, right?
That's where you wave the ultimate white flag
of just like, you do not want me to mention
like butchering
one of the coolest golf tournaments I've watched this year.
Like, I'm sorry, it has to at least be mentioned,
but nothing new, no new ground to cover
other than just like really, really, really maddening.
So, and then also throwing the trophy ceremony to Peacock
and then have it not be there with the extra middle finger.
Fuck.
Yeah, chef's kiss there.
Well, I don't wanna end on that note.
Cody, this was, you know,
last year we went to Walton Heath. We got to be a part of the IMG radio production for this
championship. For RNA radio. Yep, yep. And we had a blast. It was truly like the highlight of the
year. And we walked out of there saying like, this is the week, like, we, we circled it on the calendar.
And so here we are another week in the books.
Just this, this is the best.
It just is so much fun being part of the team.
And I want to shout those guys out here in a minute, but what's, what's the one
thing that you're going to take with you personally from, from our experience
doing the radio, we did, we did a hit on Sky TV
earlier today. Like what's going to stick with you the most from
this week?
The one thing. Well, I mean, it's a lot. We could go down the
leaderboard. You want to go down the leaderboard? You know, I
wrote about, I wrote about St. Andrews in a gin and tonic, I
think a couple of weeks back.
That's also on nolayingitup.com if people want to go read the blog.
We might need to buy No Laying It Up just to make sure it redirects to nolayingup.com.
Whispering, there's no it.
There's no it.
But in what world would me, Cody McBride, walk over the, the Swilkin Bridge on 18 with the
final group with a chance to win a major championship, calling the radio on, you
know, it's RNA radio, but it's out on, you know, BBC and, and Sirius XM and all over
the world and like calling it and describing the situation at hand.
And, and I'm sitting there and I'm like, what the hell, man?
Like, you know, seven years ago, I was literally like living with like.
18 Kurdish dudes and like a hundred detainees fighting a war.
And like, here I am and it's St.
Andrews and I, that's where I convinced my wife who knows nothing about
golf to go on our honeymoon with
you know 16 years ago and
It's just like this full circle moment for me and I get to do it with one of my best friends in you and all these
Incredible people like it's just it's awesome, man
On the damn radio to my voice started to crack I got goosebumps listening to you. Sorry's everything. I don't want to get emotional. I got emotional on the damn radio too. My voice started to crack. I don't want to do that again.
I got goosebumps listening to you. Sorry, go ahead.
It's just you guys were awesome. Like it was so natural. Like you have the perfect radio, like just like inflection and stuff in the voice. Like this guy's been doing this for 20 years.
I thought you were going to say the perfect radio face.
Yeah, we do have perfect radio faces. Uh, no, yeah, I thought the same thing.
So I like Cody, you sound like a 20 year veteran out there.
Um, and just more than that, it's like all the little moments that I think play
on radio, which is hopefully part of the fun for anybody that listened, like,
you know, our guy, Ian Carter of BBC broadcasting, like at the height of the
profession couldn't be a nicer guy. guy, Ian Carter of BBC broadcasting, like at the height of the profession,
couldn't be a nicer guy.
You know, I'm fishing his, his, his media badge out of the burn today.
Cody's doing what were you guys calling it?
The hearse, heim, Solheim, heim, Sol cup.
The hearse heim cup.
Yeah.
I mean, it just is the most fun group of people here.
So I want to name names.
I want to specifically shout out the whole squad and God, I'm going to feel bad
if I missed anybody, but, but let's start with Tebby and Ollie to the producers.
Those guys are awesome.
And then the back show, like the people you don't hear from these guys, it is an
unbelievable operation that these guys put together.
You got Joe and Jack and big Al and Karen and Richard and Tilly.
Like they are the, the people behind the curtain that is just making it all run
and making it sound awesome and making us sound good.
And then of course, out, out, you know, the people that you hear on the radio,
Marcus and Di in the studio, Ian
and Kat, who are best, just the best.
We got to have dinner with them this week.
Maddie Adams, Amy, Beth, Sophie, Flick, like just pros, pros.
And it's truly a privilege to be able to work with them, uh, this week.
Like I can't wait to do it again.
Oh, it's one of those things where you're like, oh, we talk about like cool golf trips, right?
The destinations are like, well, I guess I have to like start planning this for next year and every single Sunday at
AIG women's open now, that's exactly what we say when we're saying goodbye is like they're like, oh, yeah
So you like we'll just see you guys in wales next year. All right. Yeah. Okay. That's cool
I guess we didn't mess it up too bad
in Wales next year. All right, yeah, okay, that's cool.
I guess we didn't mess it up too bad.
And we're also like slap happy and so tired.
And we were, this is the other thing we were saying
is like, it just feels like really rewarding work
that we get to do.
And it should, like, we should be tired.
We should be exhausted.
Like it's been a fricking hell of a week
and I love spending it with you.
I love spending it with Jordan.
Solly, anything else? That's not over for Cody. We're getting emotional over here. I love spending it with Jordan, Solly, anything else.
We're getting emotional over here.
We got another live show tonight, baby.
This ain't ended.
Well, we're gonna go have a little food
and I think drink a pint or two
and celebrate what was just a fantastic week here.
I mean, one of the best freaking golf events
I've ever been to.
And I think everybody watching,
hopefully you felt the same way.
This was professional golf, like at its best.
God, well said guys, appreciate.
Yeah, you guys had me FOMO and hard back home.
It would look like an absolute blast
and that shine through and all the content you guys did
on the radio and the pod and social media and everything.
So congrats on a fantastic week.
And I want to come join you one of these years,
maybe in the August 2040.
Would love it. And if people are interested, I mean mean we're going to be home for a couple weeks but
then we're on the road man it's Solheim Cup season and I'm absolutely jacked up to be outside of
Washington DC right not for election coverage but for the Solheim Cup. Randy's going for the other
he's a big protester guy now but that's man, a huge shout out to Yeti for making this possible, supporting our LPGA
content again.
Hi Noon, Solly said it, we're gonna be back in a couple hours, Solly.
What time do I have to be back for the other live show?
There's only four holes left in the BMW, so we gotta get ready for that one.
After dinner.
Okay.
We'll be back then.
But anyway, guys, thanks for tuning in.
Love every minute of it.
We'll be back in a couple hours for BMW Championship recap.
If you're listening on the pod, we're not coming back.
This is the end.
Good night.
Bye bye.