No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 907 - Presidents Cup Friday Recap

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

The Presidents Cup is SO back. The Internationals rally to sweep the Friday Foursomes, and we breakdown the ass whooping that was laid upon the Americans at Royal Montreal. Where does Jim Furyk go from here? Is there a path to victory for the Internationals? We talk about Saturday's matchups, and what we expect to happen the rest of the way, on top of recapping the best moments of the day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Music Better than most! Expect anything different? Ladies and gentlemen, we are so back. We are unbelievably back. The President's Cup is back and we are back on the No Laying Up Live show presented as always by our friends at high noon, Soly here. The big guy's got his grape grapefruit do you see a path to victory big guy whoo Solid what a day. I'm gonna save that I'm gonna save that it's great to be here What a show we have today did not see this one coming KVV is here with us. Hello, Kevin. How are you? Sorry, I'm just rooting for chaos. I have no real care one way or another how this goes

I just want it to be even more of a mess I love it. It is a mess. It is chaos. We've got all those things We've also got the end zone pack the high noon end zone pack is here along with your favorite fall Flavors pear and cranberry. What do we got today? We are rocking pear. It's a really really good one It's got the year-round classics like grapefruit and black cherry as well. You could be tailgating in the lot, you could be playing golf, you could get out and enjoy the crisp fall air with even crispier drinks. The High Noon Enzo Pack is only here for a limited time. Get it while you can. Visit highnoonspirits.com to find it near you. High Noon, sun's up, the internationals come back, go 5-0. Everyone that told us that the internationals

would go 5-0 and us that doubted it, we have egg on our face here today and everyone that said they were about to do that can rejoice and can taunt us for that one. I did not see this one coming guys and I will own that here tonight on the show. Where is TC? Is TC in hiding?

Is he on his way to Montreal? Where don't... Where is Tron Carter? You're asking that like physically. I'm asking... I don't even know where he is, what his stance is on this. He abandoned the internationals, said he's sitting out. Now he's saying we're back. He said his fan-doll play of the week was that they were going to win day two, but he abandoned that on last night's show. It's like he walks into a casino, bets on red, bets on black.

One of them hits and he declares himself a winner. And I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna let it ride, not gonna let it ride on challenge here tonight. Disgusting behavior by TC. Disgusting. But you know what? If you're a true international fan, you got to be peacocking today. A sad young Tom Kim. We all thought that was a fucking terrible move right from the start. And guess what happens? Just stunted on our faces. I gotta say, I'm walking around a little bit smug because I think if Keegan plays today, there's no, yes, I was hoping to do it.

Let's go over five. No way. I was hoping you would do that. I was going to try to bait you into it, but you just went right for it. I really appreciate that. Bring it on, bring on your, whatever. I'm sure you'll invent some stats today about how Keegan would have been worse than Brian Harmon today that he would have you know been been dog shit but he would have got out there and got some points for us so I love that the US is five and oh on days that Keegan plays an o and five when he

doesn't so I mean the numbers kind of speak for themselves at this point I think so whatever you know evidence whatever numbers were pulled to use the sport JT wherever he talked me into for the Ryder Cup argument last year I'm ready to throw it back in your face I still don't even know what you're getting at with that. You just, you're, you're, I'm not sure I do either. I don't think I was just wanting to clarify that. I'm pretty sure we are. You know, what's fun about these team events I was thinking about, we just skewered weird last night for, you know, going on five and then sitting Tom Kim, they rebound and go five and oh, we can just like turn our, just turn the cross hairs on Fureik. Now let's just talk about that.

His teams are two and 11 in foursims for the two teams he has captained, both in France and now here in Montreal. And man, it's just some little bit of curious stuff in here. I don't think I pinned the whole thing on him, other than to say, doesn't really seem like the US has their ducks in order right now, guys. No, I mean, it was a disastrous day

for the United States I think that much is clear. I'm wondering I guess I apologize for my takes yesterday I didn't see a path certainly there's a path now. Canada showed up they showed out they got three points amongst the Canadian team members that's absolutely huge. My question to you guys though, at KVV, like honestly, should Keegan Bradley take over control of this president? Oh, there we are. Yes, Randy, now we're talking, I love this.

I mean, honestly, this was horrendous today. I don't, actually, I don't hate this take at all because a little bit we were talking about before we came on air What continuity what role is this president's cup even playing in the larger forming of the US team? Like it would make way more sense if King and brother was a freaking playing captain And he was like trying to move the pieces and be like alright We're building for the future who really cares we win or lose this but we're trying to find some good pairings going forward

I ready I love this take. I'm gonna stick with it all weekend. It's, if you've kind of gotten iffy support from me, like maybe the biggest US fan there is out there on an event, that's a bad sign, one, I would say. And two, it just speaks to like what you just said of like this being such a lame duck year. I mean, all the assistant captains on this team, I don't think are gonna be involved going forward.

Maybe Kisner is, I don't really know. I mean John Wood is a future assistant on the US side. He's announcing Keegan is a future captain. He's playing in this. They're doing it the old-school way. I have some questions on some of the orders they went out in on in some of the groups and it is like once you flip over, the beat down was so bad yesterday that it was like dude, I freaking hope the internationals get off the bus today. Once you kind of flip over to like kind of a little bit

rooting for the Americans, you zoom out and you're kind of like, well, I mean, there's no JT, there's no speed, like the guys that we thought we were gonna turn around the US team to begin with aren't even there. I don't really know why I wouldn't be rooting for the internationals at this point, or at least some kind of close action

We got that we got an interesting, you know The US is still pretty heavily favored in this but we have an exciting somewhat exciting golf tournament for the remainder and I'm very here For that so I knew that the Americans might not be up for the task today when they had a quick shot of Fluff sitting in the passenger seat and Jim Pyrrhaic driving his cart The only reason we brought Fluff over to Montreal was to drive Jim around. If he couldn't even go the full day, two days driving people around,

he had to call in his own captain to drive him around, and he didn't like that one bit. No, get all the ass captains, get Furyk, have Fluff drive them all the way back to the United States, get them out of here. I've seen enough. I think Furyk this whole time has just acted like we're gonna roll the balls out.

We're gonna beat the international team, which listen, might happen, might still happen. Could have been a good strategy, but I'm not sure honestly what Jim Furek's bringing to this whole thing. I don't understand anything he's bringing. I don't disagree, but it's also just worth pointing to. Again, the US got their asses beat today.

They didn't like lose. They got their asses beat in three of these matches. Seven and six, five and four, and six and five. We're gonna break down the matches individually. The last two could have kind of gone either way. Definitely one of them could have gone a very different way of maybe not gone seven through 12 on the points list and not taking Brian Harmon on this list,

but they did and they lost that match as well on the 18th hole. And I want to do this now. We're going to break down the matches individually and we're going to get pairings by the end of this show. But if you're Furek tonight, if you're Furek right now as they're coming up these pairings and they're doing it right now as we speak, who's sitting? Who are the four guys for you that are sitting tomorrow morning? Harmon sitting. For sure. It's four ball in the morning for the record. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I'm tempted to sit Xander and Patrick just to send a message. Like it's unacceptable to get beat 76, truly. Like he- Worth noting that the team they played was eight under par through 12 holes. They did not play good. You mean eight straight birdies or whatever at one point? Did I hear that? noting that the team they played was eight under par through 12 holes. They did not play good.

Straight birdies or whatever. One point. Did I hear that? I think that was one of them was a concession. Last seven holes. They birdied. Yeah. They birdied the last seven in an old shot. Yeah. Instead of just me reading them through as I'm watching on the other screen, I'm also going to play around as you guys continue to pontificate here, but the first names that are on the board representing the internationals, the team of Adam Scott and Taylor Pendrith continue okay remind me what's what's the morning session four sums or four ball four ball four ball okay so in all honesty probably I Harmon sure saw I gotta sit side yep yeah I think he's got to sit Harmon saw hith I mean Cantlay was awful maybe he's better I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say burns out there tomorrow. I'm probably still sitting him and fine riding that out, but those would be my four than Harmon Tagala, Cantlay and Burns would be the four I would go to sit.

But we have an answer. Scottie Scheffler and Karl Markauer are in the first match against Adam Scott and Taylor Pendruth. And then they put up big tone and Xander Schauffele in the second match, which is matched by Corey Connors and Mackenzie Hughes. So no real surprise in that other than Scottie Scheffeler and Colin Morikawa is a new team that we have not seen.

So I'm guessing that means Russell Henley sits which I would not have drawn up. I think he's been relatively solid, but I'm guessing they are holding him back for foursomes in the afternoon. So Big Tone is gonna go back out. I'm guessing he would sit back for foursomes in the afternoon. So big tone is gonna go back out. I'm guessing he would sit then in foursomes in the afternoon. And I'm guessing Xander is going all five in that next one.

So third match was led by the internationals, the team of Siwoo Kim and Tom Kim. They're playing Keegan Bradley and Wyndham Clark. Okay. Okay. I mean, they played all right Thursday. No, I don't. I see a lot riding on that one for KVV. Let me just let me just. We just got too much fee now. I like why phenol stinks. Get them out of here. It looks too big. I mean, I don't know. He's still waiting on

all that speed. We do have the final match. Americans Patrick Cantley and Sam Burns will play Hideki Matsuyama and Sung Jae. Max sitting then in the morning. He was the best player this afternoon for the U.S. and he will be sitting in four ball to run. Did do you think the Americans like kind of didn't take this shit seriously enough today or is it just a debate? For sure. For sure. And they kind of just assumed it was on a, like it was over, right? Like it's not, it doesn't seem like too much of a reach. They were kind of laughing their faces off last night,

kind of just like, ah, whatever it's same old shit. We're good, we're good. We're going to just roll the balls out and beat them. Oh man. Like honestly, why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you? It felt a lot KVV, like all those years when the Grizz go play like Oregon or university,

Washington or something like that. And like, yeah, they're like paying us like three mil for this game. Like we just got to show up and they somehow end up eating. Go up 50, nothing or whatever in the first quarter. Yeah. It's also tough if you're the Americans and you win this literally nine years in a row

and have a bad session and we just like, what the fuck guys? How could you let the session get away from you like this? It's completely unacceptable. I don't know what else the analysis is supposed to be. I know. This is a serious competition. It's so hard to get hyped about this when you compare it to the Ryder Cup. And like, I would say sitting here, oh my goodness, when you compare it to the Ryder Cup. And like, yeah, I would say sitting here, oh my goodness. Thank, thank God this wasn't the Ryder Cup because it would be so much worse.

Yeah. I mean, it honestly reminds me a little bit of Ryder Cup in Paris where the US won the first session, three, one, and it was like, Oh, this is sick. And then they just got absolutely swept in this next session. And it was like, Holy shit. So I, and I were walking around Paris being like, woo, it's over. This is five, three, five, three. That was over. I've three. It felt like, holy shit. So I, and I were walking around Paris being like, woof. It's over. Five, three, five, three.

That was over. Five, three. It felt like 10, three. Yeah. DJ, I'll have to credit DJ cause it was in our Slack. He raised an interesting point earlier today is Tom cam and men will ease best position on this international team as mascots. Like I think that is a legit discussion point.

I, I mean, I don't know. I needed a little bit of energy. They're wearing those international jerseys running around today. I mean, it could be their best positions. I'll believe that with Min Woo Lee. I'm not gonna buy that with Tom Kim. Tom Kim played excellent yesterday. I still was stunned. I still don't understand him sitting in foursums and I would guess he's gonna go all 36 tomorrow.

But obviously you can't critique it after your team goes five and oh, but that was still a very curious one. I won't back off that one. I mean, Tom Kim could have played instead of Buzet and Hoed, who almost gagged away that game at the end. He tried so hard. But approach 18 was sick.

That was a true Icarito ball. Let's we'll get to it. Let's let's go match by match. Before we do that, I want to give a shout to Mizzouho. America is a part of Mizzouho Financial Group, the 15th largest bank in the world.

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For more information, visit MizuhoAmericas.com. The very first match of the day, Patrick Cantlay, Xander Schauffley, long known as the kind of the top team on the American side, got dog licensed by the team of Matsuyama and SungJay and that was for our British friends that referred to a seven and six win as a dog license as back in the day a dog license cost I think it was seven shillings and six pence so that's why they refer to it as when you beat somebody seven and six just that I had to look that up Sally Sally, when you were tweeting that. I did not know, I was not aware of that information.

So thank you for educating our listeners and me. What do you like better, dog license, which is good. You know, they did get dog walked or the one that always tickles me is like when they get them on the speed bag. Yeah. I think that's one of Cody's favorites. Cody will drop that in the chat from time to time.

I love that one. Yeah Cody's favorites. Cody will drop that in the chat from time to time. I love that one. Yeah, they got demolished. Hideki and Sungjae were incredible. Like we said, they birdied the last seven holes. They made eight birdies in 12 holes. Xander and Kali weren't good. I don't think they were gonna beat many teams today, but just again, we're shouting out how much this was a win.

It was gonna be a win for the internationals no matter what happened. That was two of the top players on the international side. Hideki was the second best player today. Sungjae was the fourth best player. You're just not beating that team. But absolute ass whooping and flip the momentum, man. I mean, they put that team out first.

They had an entirely different atmosphere on the first tee today. The buzz was totally different. Tom Kim was completely justified in calling out the crowd. We caught out the crowd yesterday. It was just a complete dud of a day and it was very different from the jump. They did what Europe did last year at the at the Ryder Cup as well of like win holes early and then like the title wave started even before the last matches had had gone off. Like the momentum as clear as day completely flipped and that drove the entire day. Like I don't think it's coincidence that they drummed in that bad in that first match and the rest of them all went to the internationals.

That put some pressure on the US. Yeah. Good on Sung Jay. I called Sung Jay out yesterday. I mean, it's one day though. Like follow it up tomorrow. That's my challenge for Sung Jay, but it was good to see him play well. Hideki, I mean, when the best players supposedly on the international team play well, like that's what makes this a much more fun event.

So in all sincerity, good on them. Soly, let me ask you, you've played in some, you know, match play for some, I don't know if you've played all shot competitions, but if somebody's just beaten that ass through, you know, at a certain point, you know, do you need to like try to throw sand in the eyes? Do you need to try to like gum up the works a little bit?

What can you do if you can't lay in Shawfleet to stem the tide? Is there anything to be done or do you just have to sit there and take it? Not if you're American because anything you do would be classless. It would just be completely unacceptable and class. You just don't do that. You just don't do anything like that. You don't throw a scene. You know, you don't stall it. You know, you don't, you know, do the measurement with the putter to see it, you know, for a putt they wouldn't get. You can't do any of that. There's just no room in team competitions for any of that. But like if I'm just getting beat that bad, like I, I at least got to try something.

I just feel like it'd be tough to just sit there and take that. I mean, it was really tough watching like Patrick Cantlay drive the golf ball today. I mean, he was, he was awful. Um, I think it, you know, I don't, I don't think I'd realize just how much his driving accuracy really had dipped in the last year. I think I saw this on even holes today where Cantlay had the tee. They went loss, loss, loss, loss, loss, tie. And that was the end of the match because he was driving it all over the map and just not a lot they could do on that.

I thought they kind of in theory ordered that well, because you with the way things set up for foursums at least how I understand it and I don't have access to all the information and maybe there's analytics that would say it differently but you would want your better iron player to tee off the first hole because they're gonna tee off on all the par three holes and that's gonna leave your better putter to hit more putts you know over the course of the day like you're gonna more birdie putts like 13 birdie putts versus five, if you are the one teeing off the even holes in theory. And so with someone like Xander, I don't know,

I still maybe would have flipped that one because Xander is such a good putter. They're both good iron players. I would have flipped that and let Xander, I guess have the T on the par fives and some of the more driving distance holes. But the US just did not really seem to take that strategy out. We'll get to the next match as well.

We can do that now. I mean, Tagala and Morikawa lost five and four to Scott and Pendrith. And this one was just jumping off the page at me of, I mean, Morikawa's had a really good putting year and their putting stats are relatively similar. Saw has still like a better putter, but like the Morikawa is one of the best iron players in the world, clearly. And saw hit this known more for his short game than his, you know, off the

tee game or his, his accuracy. And they put the emphasis on Tagala's irons and Morikawa's putter and Tagala's irons were bad and Mor Akawa's putter was bad like I The math would just say to me like very obviously this isn't like a 10-8 situation 13 to 5 would say that you would flip this the other way around and I I just was confused in that from the jump and It like I don't know if that would have been enough to flip a 5 and 4 match probably not with the way saw has played But again, that's kind of where like we can't be confused if you're an American fan, you can't be confused on why some of this stuff happens in foursomes when you

make decisions like this and play it like that. Because this is the kind of shit that's like, man, they just don't play very well. It's like, no, set your guys up for the best possible success. And I just do not seem like they did that. I'm willing to be wrong on that. Please send me all the data that would show I'm wrong on that. But that was jumping off the page of me. I love the idea that you have thought about this a lot more than Jim Furek,

who seems to have been like, I don't know, guys, like, who do you want to play with? Like, just figure it out. That might not be on Furek, though. That might be on like Sahith and Morikawa to be like, no, I like this. And not, you know, it's probably on them for that to have that information shared to them. And I don't know that it wasn't right. Like, I don't know how that actually came about.

But as a team and a structure, just like, gosh, that one just seemed like leaving a lot on the table. But I don't know. The fascinating thing I think about professional golfers is like, they play so well instinctually, right? And so there is this always this feeling of like, yeah, like, we should just trust the guys to go out and play or whatever. But truly like the best success that America has ever had in the team format was when Aizinger was like, you're going to do this, and you're going to do this. And what treaty want cut down? And how should I like shave the

rough around the screen? And like basically like took away all of their decisions, but let them like be their personalities within their little cocoons. I just think that it does not seem to me like they have this shit handled. I know this seems unfair the day after I wasn't on yesterday. So I can't really speak to last night's but it just seems so like they're just kind of like, yeah, like whatever, man, like we'll figure it out. We're good. Like we're

the US. It's kind of like the US basketball team, Randy showing up at the Olympics and be like, are we playing the triangle or are we doing the Princeton offense? I don't know, man. Like let's just let's just have LeBron kind of like just dribble around and shoot threes. Well, and it's an interesting basketball comparison because like besides, I guess Xander is in that category or he should be in that category, but like Scheffler is the only guy that really gives me that

like this guy's got it. He's on top of his shit. The rest of the guys I'm like day to day, they might have it, they might not. I would also say yesterday's format KBV is much more of a, yeah, hey, you guys are playing together. Just go out there. And when the strategy does kick in and force them,

solid to your point, I'm like, I don't know if they're just ignoring the numbers. They don't have the numbers. They don't have the numbers. They don't care about the numbers. Who knows? But I mean, I guess this would be stuff that would be interesting to discuss their strategy ever because like we literally had European captains on the podcast. It's like, here's how we did it. And the US they're like, No, we're gonna

do it our way. All right, we got this shit. Don't worry about us. I love it. There was a huge takeaway from Rome was just like, man, we just came in rusty to that one. Nobody had played a tournament within five weeks of that one. Like one, that shouldn't have snuck up on you.

Two, next go around, two guys played in the Pro-Core. Two guys have made a start since the tour championship. Like it's the same old thing. Again, that's kind of where I'm like, dude, let this, if this ship sinks, one, that could be a good thing for this event, that's clearly not gonna go away. And two, it's more of a sign of like,

you better get your shit in a row before Beth Page. Because if they just roll out the balls and play at Beth Page, it is not a guarantee, it is not. Like they have some serious stuff they need to get figured out. Honestly, it might be great for the US's chances if they get their ass beat in this. Like if the US loses this, you might probably in good ways like a wake up call like oh shit,

like we got a lot of work to do before a bet page. They also might just not care like we might just care about this a lot more than they care. Sometimes I think about that wait a second Kevin because the loss of the Ryder Cup wasn't motivating enough to like go win a cup. I they care. Sometimes I think about that. Wait a second, Kevin, because the loss of the Ryder Cup wasn't motivating enough to like go win a cup? You know, but I think like it's sort of just like a mid-time, mid-year wake-up call, like, oh crap, like we don't have this stuff handled.

Like I think they're gonna go into the Ryder Cup in Bethpage with this feeling of like, hey, at home, our home court advantage, like we can set the course up how we want, we feel really comfortable. Maybe this would be like, Whoa, like we got to figure. I mean, who would you pair with Scotty at the Ryder Cup right now? We do. He does not have a partner who he's had like a ton of success with. Right. And so we've tried now he's been paired with Brooks. He's been paired with Sam. He's been paired with Russell Henley. Now tomorrow he's going to go out and be paired with Colin.

Like what makes good international teams is like consistent partners. And when we thought that like JT and Smith were like, oh, we found our Seve and Ollie, right? For the U.S. Who is that of this generation? If it's clearly, we don't even know if Smith's gonna be on the Ryder Cup team

or if he's even gonna be playing golf at the same high level. That's what I think is really these Presidents Cups should always have been like, let's figure out who our good pairings are and ride them. And yeah, we thought Zander and Patrick were one, but man, that sure didn't look like it today. I mean, I wouldn't break them up just for one bad match,

but who is the Scotty pairing? Like, how can you figure out who that is? You know, it, it, Russ did not have like a good back nine, a good finish to this one, but I have been liking that one. At least in four ball, I really liked that team. I, I, I feel like a,

Henley is just a better version of Sam Burns. Like just a better iron player and a more consistent player than Sam Burns. I don't, I, I, I wouldn't give up on that one. You know, that was, that was, you know, Henley did not have great, they lost one down. Now listen, do I think Scottie Scheffler and whoever you pair them with should beat a team of Siwu, Kim and Ben on? I do, respectfully.

Siwu was awesome, Siwu played fantastic, Ben on did not. But I don't know, I'm not fully given up on the Henley thing, cuz I think he's actually an interesting little wrinkle into this, into the future. But man, it's just hard to kind of see Harmon, Sam Burns. I mean, who knows those guys could go on to have great cups the rest of the way and just be like, JT is sitting at home. I mean, Max was a shell of himself all year long and they picked him and he was the best player they had today. Right. Like there again, there's not this you don't have to only pick guys based solely on form.

And it just kind of seems silly to like have pick guys that weren't In good form and don't also have great history In these events and now it's just kind of like on a day when you need to create some energy Like one of the dudes that has the been the energy creator for this team since 2017 Is just sitting at home and it just seems going and what's happening tomorrow? He's sitting tomorrow like because they couldn't deviate from the plan, right? He's not in the morning matches. Who's he? Max? No, I was saying, yeah, he's talking about JT. I was talking about, okay, I'm talking about home.

Like, yeah, but Max played really well today, right? Like it was the best player strokes gained wise. Is he playing tomorrow? Nope. Not at the start. Right. Yeah. I'm guessing. I'll also say that that sorry, that canlay-Shawfleet-Forson's pairing, I mean, went 0 and 2 at the Ryder Cup. They got their doors blown off today. It's like, yeah, I don't know if that's the pairing we think it is.

I have it used to work, guys. Used to be so good. I do have something to report. This was published some eight minutes ago. I don't know exactly what's going on here, but this was posted on Twitter or X as we call it from the account of Mr. T-Sty, Jacksonville to Montreal with a picture out of an airplane window.

So we're as confused as everybody else. Not a bit. I truly have no idea where Tron Carter is. Zero. I mean, he's, you know, he, will he show up? Will he bask in what could be a victory or will he just like hang out outside the gates and pretend like he knew all along that the U S was going to just go is he's got a lot of Canadians. He's going to have to apologize to. Is it a layover? Is he headed to Spain? Does he want to be there at Fleetwoods in contention this weekend?

Is this an Eric Adams situation? Is he headed to Turkey before, you know, to take advantage of some, you know, is he, is he, you know, he used to work in hospitality. Is he a scab? Is he going in, you know, in place of these striking workers at the, at the team hotel? We don't know. It big. This could be a good time though.

If you could check the, uh, the company Amex and see if there's any purchases. Yeah. I don't even know if he's, is he there to support the internationals or to hate on the internet? Well, wait, is there even put it tomorrow. They can do whatever needs to be done. Is there even a flight to Montreal from Jacksonville? Oh, God. Why not?

He did say, I will say, he resented that we implied that he was just trying to get his last legs of his United status. He said he's already completed all that. He's going to go way past it. So this is not a run to sort of keep his, you know, premium elite double diamond, whatever status. God, I hope he gets date night for. Yeah, that's what he told us.

I thought he had the boys. I hope he gets stuck on the bridge for like three hours tomorrow. That's the only way this can end Match three Max Holman Brian Harmon against Christian Bezade note Jason day Bez and day when it one up when day gets up and down on the final hole From long left effort for Zayden Holt went air mailed one from the fairway and tried to give it away. Again, it's hard to emphasize just how much of an anchor Brian Harmon was on this day. He was the worst player in the field at negative 3.87 strokes games while hitting half the shots. That's pretty darn epic. He was almost negative two

strokes putting. He was the worst player in the field putting. Just the four worst players in the entire field putting today were of course Americans. The internationals gained 16 shots on the Americans on the greens today compared to just three shots from tee to green, which was, yeah, that's absolutely, absolutely stunning on greens that are that pure and that should be that easy to putt. But good bounce back from Max.

Honestly, he played some pretty darn good golf. His iron play was fantastic. He hit it, you know, had a really tough tee shot. Obviously he hit a fan with the opening shot that had to exit the premises. That was less than ideal. But just like they, you know, those two got, had to lick their wounds early on in the Ryder Cup in Rome

and they battled back hard. Looked like they were gonna get it, squeeze a half out of it. Max did not have a good approach shot into 18, but again, he was kind of the only player on the US side that showed up of any kind today. So just for those keeping score at home, we're now through the first three matches of the day

and at no point has the US led for a single hole. Just keep that in mind. I mean, even Max and Brian losing one up, they never had a lead in this match. I think, I mean I don't know if this went final, but Shane Ryan or somebody tweeted earlier that US won six holes today. Won six. Six holes. Yeah. And I think there was a stat too, I think it was Justin Ray where the US only had a lead playing a hole one time today I believe across all five

matches. That's sick I mean it almost it was kind of like is this is this on a sound stage like this is a little this a little too much this is a little Rob Lowe wearing the president's cup hat here of you know this big of a comeback. So let's talk about that. If, if, if, and I'm not, I don't think any of us are saying, but if the US were to take a dive, how would it look different than what happened today? God, that's a great question, Randy. I think if the US were gonna take a dive. I don't know, that's a great question, Randy. I think if the US were gonna take a time. I don't know, that's a great question.

Was there any emotion? Like, was there any like angst? Do they seem like, you know, despondent about it? I mean, it seems like they would be more upset if it was real. You're turning me on to this comparison. I mean, it's like laughing at the end. I know it's kind of a bit, but I'm struggling to think of it.

I can't start going to answer your question. Like, do I literally, like, if, you know, hook me up to a lie detector here, do I think that they threw today? No, but I do not have a good answer for your question of how it could have looked possibly any different. At least like getting a couple of matches in there close at the end is exactly how we would do it if it was gonna be thrown.

Like Scotty, you're too proud. No, we're not gonna have you lose six and five. You can play, play hard. That one can go the distance. Scotty, you had it right. Scotty and Henley won the second hole to go one up in their match. That was the only time the US left a play to hole

where they were leading a match today. Dave was pretty good today. He, no he wasn't. How the hell, my God, how the hell did they lose that match? Day was minus 1.74, but they know minus 1.06 and they won their match. That's how bad Brian Harmon was. Day's visor is freaking me out. I can't, like it just doesn't, my brain doesn't fit with Jason Day Dave's visor is freaking me out. I can't, like, it just doesn't,

my brain doesn't fit with Jason Day wearing a visor. Every time they show him from behind, his hair's kind of sticking out all spiky. It just doesn't work with my brain. I don't think you should be allowed to wear a visor unless you have previous visor experience. You need to ease your way into that. Randy, you're a visor guy sometimes, you know?

You know what I mean. Yeah, no, it can be startling. DJ dabbled with a visor a couple of years ago, and I think we were like, well, that doesn't look right. Yeah, kind of the same deal with JD. I will say that the international team uniforms, the all-black look was two thumbs up. I think that's a great uniform look.

Aggressive colors. I'll also give a shout out to Bzade Note. I mean,'s a great uniform look aggressive colors. I also give a shout to bzede note Um, I mean anytime that guy has got to stand up on a you know In front of a national audience and give an interview live on the spot I mean for those that aren't familiar with the story When he was two years old, he accidentally drank rat poison He has a speech impediment has a stutter because of it He almost died from that when he was a kid and obviously has faced a ton of challenges

Uh from that but has has a has a stutter and it's obviously has faced a ton of challenges from that, but has a stutter and it's obviously difficult for him to do interviews like that. But standing up and doing that is, I commend him for that every time you get a chance to do it because that's got to be a very difficult thing to do on the spot. So for sure. Are we allowed to talk about DJ's take privately about what Tom Kim should have should have made that he put into the lineup. Sure. Literally there's no rules. All right. So in the, in our internal chat or the slack this morning, uh, DJ basically said that, uh, DJ who's on paternity leave,

but came back is not covering the president's cup at all, but came back to share this take that if Tom Kim did not demand that he like a very much a, what was not the Rudy situation, but the reverse of that, like if you don't put me in on this team, you're you're basically a coward to Mike Weir that Tom Kim was somehow weak for not doing this. I don't I feel like maybe that take needed to be kind of worked out kind of off Broadway for a little bit before it Was brought to maybe that's what these are trying to do But I look nobody wanted to see Tom Kim more than I but man what what a what a ridiculous look for the Tom Kim Stands out there for him to just I mean he did his work. He did he give a little interview there We was like, oh, I'm just happy to support the team. I'll do whatever's asked of me. Maybe that's came across as like insincere,

but fuck the results can't, they're kind of hard to argue with. No, like what, Tom, first of all, it's the most unreasonable expectation that's ever been lobbed on a person in a team event ever. I had to double take, like double squint at it to make sure that it wasn't coming from TC's account and not from DJ's.

Maybe TC's in Milwaukee. Maybe that's the answer. He went to go meet DJ's new son and was sitting that from his phone. That would be a better explanation for that. But like that's the difference in like imagine that was Keppke who was like who was playing great and like had to sit out. I mean he like just be like oh no I'm not here to like really root on the team or do you think he would have been too cool for school? Like Tom Kim was out there like firing people up out there cheering on the team like I don't I you guys are I I'm fully on board with Tom Kim. I'm sorry I'm not I'm not gonna I don't mind it I think it's good I think it's necessary. You might have OD'd on their Tom Kim takes. They're going too far. They're reaching too far. heart. He might be delirious.

Sleep deprivation. What? What? He was calling Mike. We're a pushover and Tom give me to get in there and tell me it was playing. I read the internationals by five at oh, that's the post fatherhood DJ getting completely unhinged would be one of the great curve balls of our time. What if what if DJ becomes TC like without sleep? That's that's a scary scenario. It's the best. It's the best.

Match four, Wyndham Clark and Big Tone against Corey Connors and McKenzie Hughes. Got their doors blown off. Corey Connors was incredible. Hughes. Got their doors blown off. Corey Connors was incredible. He was the best player on either team throughout the course of the day. He gained 2.73 just with approach play. He potted well. McKenzie Hughes had a couple of good moments in there

as well. Wyndham Clark did not play well. Big Tom was very much just okay. And that team just got whacked. Almost no memories from that one other than just the international just absolutely pouring it on on that match. Yeah, yeah, to the Canadians. Do you apologize for any?

And I was gonna say Kent State. This was the Kent State Golden Flash pairing as well. We know that the Golden Flashes are proud and and Mackenzie and and Corey demonstrated that. That's all that's all your action, baby. You don't, yeah. Sure. I apologize, Canada. I apologize.

I'm sorry. I called you out. Don't apologize. Yeah. I don't know what you want me to apologize for, but I will apologize. I do apologize. B Y Ryan Abbott was asking if you would be, and I did not think you would. I thought you would have said,

no, that's what you're supposed to do. Go win a match on your home soil. Well,, no, that's what you're supposed to do. Go win a match on your home soil. Well, I mean, that is what you're supposed to do. You guys are allegedly professional golfers, one of the 12 best on this international team. Like we can't win a point in over a decade or whatever it is. Come on. And people, you know, people are like, Oh, Canada, it's got one 10th of population in the United States.

You know that we're actually punching a Bravo. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no brother and I'm like no Save it save it. No, thank you Do we have an update Cody? I Think he's not telling me anything. I snow I see him I know but if he's not gonna let us know what's going on They're like, well, we just gonna let him pop in whatever he wants ladies and gentlemen, mr Tron Carter, which appears to be from his front porch Mr. Tron Quarter, which appears to be from his front porch. What are those popsicles you like now?

What is that? Johnny Pops. Johnny Pops, Randy. No, I'm just messing with people. I'm at home. I'm on dad duty. I got the boys playing basketball here in the street. What's your address, TC?

Yeah, you're going to dox yourself here pretty soon. Be careful. It's okay. We won my match six and five. We're going to play a game of soccer. We're going to play a game of soccer. We're going to play a game of soccer. We're going to play a game of soccer.

We're going to play a game of soccer. We're going to play a game of soccer. We're going to play a game of soccer. We're going to play a game of Yeah, you're gonna dox yourself here pretty soon. Be careful. It's okay Won my match six and four today got a bunch of crisis actors and Big big dollar amounts hitting the trowel Schwab retirement accounts for the US team first thing Monday morning Tc your audio is not good good there's a lot there's wind going on do you have any statements you want to give it give the give the people here. Was Tom Kim the problem that's what I want to ask you guys I

will leave you with that I'm out. Thank you thank you Tron Carter they believe we already discussed that but thank you very much. Match five, Scottie Scheffler and Russell Henley, Siwoo Kim and Ben Ahn. Siwoo drained a damn clutch putt on the 18th green from the middle of the green. Great celebration. I'm assuming our friend James Corrigan is going to be writing a column about how they celebrated before they shook hands like the column that he wrote at the Walker Cup. Same exact situation there. I assume that we'll read that later on. But classless celebration on the green before

they shook hands. Of course, you just don't do that. But cool moment. That was fun. That was a good way to cap off the day for the international. That was good golfing. Way better than four and a half to a half. Five-0 was great. And think some of the the second guessing and even first guessing was hey why see we sitting yesterday he played really well today it was it was fun to watch him hit the golf ball today do you have the matches handy Cody again we were kind of doing that on the fly I want to I want to dig into them a little bit a little bit farther if we can we don't have to do it right. We can get to some questions if you don't have them. We'll do a couple questions here.

Lord, okay, now we do have them. Just receiving word. So first one out, if you're looking at these times, this is Central Time, Cody's in Texas. But first one, Sheffler and Morakawa, they're not messing around, putting out two of the top five players in the world Against Adam Scott and Taylor pendroth in that one phenol and Xander following that one seven to 18 minute gaps

And that makes me laugh, but Cory Connors and Mackenzie Hughes Keegan and Wyndham see who Kim Tom Kim can't lay burns Hideki and Sung Jay all right, what's what's the score at the end of tomorrow then? God, I mean I could see a 3-1 international in this. I like the first match for the U.S. I mean, Scheffler, Morikawa, come on guys, we got to do that. Yeah, but then the next three, you could tell me the international team wins these and I wouldn't be surprised necessarily. Does the US have a foursomes problem or do they have a bigger problem? Because part of me still thinks like when they roll out four balls tomorrow, like they're

going to be totally fine. But that's not the case historically in this event. They've dominated foursomes and have kind of not done as they've kind of split four balls. It's been sort of the opposite of the Ryder Cup. So it's worth digging into the difference though, in that in home versus away. Like both Ryder Cups and Presidents Cups, they fucking suck at foursomes on the road. Like, and they dominated at home.

Like it's like kind of stunning how much how big of a difference there is in home, you know, maybe that's just like, for whatever reason, that format is that much easier to do on the road, they did dominate foursomes on the road in 2015. But if you remember, they were kind of just iffy in that format in 2019. And they've always sucked at on the road and forcems in the Ryder Cup. So, yeah, I don't have a big takeaway from that other than like they just seem to kind

of push their weight around in four ball. And I don't necessarily know if I believe that it will go any differently in that way tomorrow. Yeah, tough to argue. I mean, I said it, I wouldn't be surprised if the international team gets three of these four, but I also wouldn't be surprised if you know, I, yeah, I don't the four ball just feels. I feel like I lean more towards the U S having a four sums problem than an overall problem. Sorry. The four sums road problem is what I would buy. Sure. They were, I don't have the road home splits here, but I have from Justin Ray prior to the event United States foursome scoring in the President's Cup. 56.5 points. International's

23.5 and then over the last two President's Cups, the international team has a 12 six advantage in four ball. So I it feels to me like. It's not I just in this event I don't feel like I can say it's a foursomes problem. I just feel like we don't have like pairings that we feel confident and comfortable in, but on the flip side,

like internationals are making up different pairings. I mean how many partners Adam Scott had in this? It's not like he's had one consistent partner that he they've leaned on all. I want to just raise a glass to Adam Scott. Like this? It's not like he's had one consistent partner that they've leaned on all the way. I wanna just raise a glass to Adam Scott. Like, yesterday we were joking about 11 President's Cups. He's still looking to win his first.

It hasn't always gone great for him. I think he finally passed Ernie Els today and for the most points acquired for the internationals in the President's Cup. But I feel like he really does want it. It would be kind of cool for him to, who knows if this is his last one, he's been a stalwart in this. It's 50 freaking matches he's played in the President's Cup. It's a lot. It's a lot. We'll get to a couple questions here.

One of the things I love about big events like this week, you get, you know, you get some more coverage of guys on the range and practice rounds. It was hard not to notice how many four side sports, GC quads and quad maxes there were out there. Of course, we're speaking about launch monitors on the golf course. I put a little reel out there this past week or maybe,

yeah, that came out on Monday, talking about how much I enjoy taking the GC quad out on the golf course to get data from the course. I'm a little faster on the actual golf course. You put my actual golf ball down there instead of range balls. Like you get in the actual data of what it's like and information what's like, you know, during the course of a round of golf. That's the main selling point of the GC quad is it's easy to set up. Sorry, Randy. Sorry. My sources were telling me that they have added the cradle, one of the short courses to their simulator library.

I didn't know if we were talking about that today or not. Anything to cut me off from talking about my speed, you're gonna take that opportunity. I appreciate that. Oh, you know, hey, I'm more of a wedge guy finesse game. Those courses suit me a little bit better. There's a lot to offer with the GC Quadrant and Foresight Sports.

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Rumors are you're moving it. We had some intel this week that you were hitting drives in obscene places. We're getting there. We're getting there, guys. It's all gonna go backwards when the twins come, but we are indeed getting there. A lot of motivation out of our club championship.

If you haven't watched that yet, go sample that. Not to spoil it too much, But so I got beat down. And he would love if that was the motivation to honestly turn losing that bad wasn't as bad as seeing that 162 ball speed pop up. That was that was more embarrassing. That was something I had to fix. So a couple questions we got in from people on Twitter. Thank you everyone for sending them in. Steve, Steve Crabio one, will you apologize for an hour of saying it was over and not worth playing from last night? No, no, no, no, no, no.

Might still be over. I think the US is minus two 10 to win. They were minus two 50 to start. They were kind of hovering around minus 300 until that last match finally got flipped. These are odds are of course courtesy of the Fandel Sportsbook. This was right after play had wrapped. I don't know. Of course, when Fierkes-Perrigs come out, maybe the odds will flip even more in favor of the International's. But I haven't looked at it since then.

I won. So I guess this was the first time in any team event in professional golf, Ryder, Solheim, President's Cup, that we had two straight session sweeps. And I guess assuming that would be any type of sweep, let alone one team than the other team. I am firmly rooting for a sweep tomorrow morning. Like let's just keep on sweeping these sessions. I don't care who sweeps. Like let's just keep sweeping them.

I think at that point, at this point, that would be the funniest thing. Yeah. Let's see. What else do we have here? L Ward 343. Why does this still totally feel in character for Xander even though he won two majors this year? Man, that's the question I struggle with. KVV helped me out here. I mean, I'm kind of a skeptic. I'm a cynic. I know, but I still just don't get the sense from Xander. Like, he's a killer or I, but I should like he the way he won those majors this year was big time shit. I mean, he was really good yesterday, right? He made a bunch of putts. I think honestly, some of it is that he's not a big

physically imposing person. So he just, and he doesn't have a big personality. So it makes you feel like, oh, like he's, he's definitely the guy who's kind of come up small in a big moment. Like he's, and you know what? He's the same size as Rory. So he's probably even maybe an inch taller than Rory.

So it doesn't really feel fair in that sense. But I think that that's part of it. Like we think of our athletes, our best athletes as being like these big swaggering bad-ass dudes. And he just, if you told me, if you could stand him next to Tiger Woods and they might be the exact same height,

but there's no way like if you asked me like, who's taller, who's bigger, who weighs more? That would be like, oh yeah, frigging Tiger. Like Tiger probably four inches on him. No, like who's taller, who's bigger, who weighs more? That would be like, oh yeah, friggin Tiger like Tiger probably four inches on him No, like that's just he doesn't come across as like a big I mean you're talking high test now And I love it like that that was firmly he doesn't pass the eye test This is your thought you kind of you sound a little bit like skip Bayless when the The first time Fox was doing USGA events. They were they did the pregame show and he's like, Ricky Fowler is too short. Shout out to my guy, Gary Player too, who was 5'8 and won all those freaking

majors. The only thing that I have to add there, KVB, you brought up some great points, I guess, by short people can't be killers according to you, but there is a lot of like Pat and the hat stank that rubs off on. Yeah, I don't think it was Zander's really fault. He the only thing Zander sucked at, I mean, when he drilled that tree today, when he was trying to kind of shape a big draw around the corner on the, I think the second hole,

I was like, like that feels like a little ominous of like. Why was he behind a tree though, Kevin? His partner drove him there? Xander is longer and more accurate than can't lay like it. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not putting that on him and I'm going to see them break up for foursomes tomorrow afternoon. I want to see Xander. Would you put, is it crazy? What about a Xander Scotty foursomes parent? I'd love that. Why not? I mean,

you don't have an answer for either one of those guys. Right. Yeah. But then I guess, I mean, what are you doing with Max? Weekends, maybe you think it weakens another grouping, but yeah. I mean, they're totally going Max Harmon again tomorrow. I mean, they're both sitting in the morning. They're not going to sit Max all day. I'm guessing they would assume Max didn't practice with anyone else. Like, they're kind of stuck in that one.

I don't know. I practice that with anyone else. Like they're kind of stuck in that one. I don't know. I don't know, man. That's just like a, the US is so stuck in like the models and like, Hey, they're, they're so unwilling to do things on feel. I mean, I guess the, the other, the one flip side that'd be when they panicked and put Keppke and Schaeffler together at the Ryder Cup in Italy.

And that was a absolute like historic disaster. Maybe that's makes them scared of like the panic sort of changed up the pairings. But I just don't quite get at this point, you could sort of say to yourself like, Hey, I don't know if it was the best pick to put Brian on the team. Like he's just not playing great. No offense, but you should probably just sit and like get ready for singles. I just don't think it makes any sense. Why put them out there and like drag down

whatever pairing that is, you know, in the next go round? Whatever the stats say that they're great in, you know, alternate shot, I would love to see those. I would love to pull down the proprietary curtain because I just don't get it. I wonder, shouldn't there be a lot more waiting to, to recent performance?

No. So like, I understand like for the pairings tomorrow and everything, but like taking Max's score today should have a higher waiting when it comes to it. Like I wonder how they break that down. And I know we're never gonna get that information because of whatever, but I understand where you're going, KVV. So a lot of it just doesn't make sense

because it's great to rely on data and have all these plans and everything, but like, if that shit was set like last Friday, like a lot's changed since then, and when they go to tee it up tomorrow morning, or when they sat down a little bit ago to make these fucking picks. If Jordan is not like fully back in capacity

throughout the year, and Max does come back and start playing well again, I want Max and JT to like get a shot as like a pairing. And that's why this would have been a good sort of go around to do it. Cause I don't think Brian Harmon's gonna make your Beth Page Ryder Cup team. That would be insane.

So like what a huge missed opportunity to potentially build a pairing of two buddies, two guys who play sort of similar games, two guys who trust and like each other, and instead like we're just wasting for the future here because of this. Yeah but but what that's a ridiculous thing to say because Harmon got more FedEx Cup points than JT did. Like what this arbitrary point system or whatever that they're using like that. How could you possibly say that?

We can't go past seven through 12 on the list. Like, again, there's not... So this one at J. Juarez Zeniak, is this US team sneakily stinky? I was like, I don't even know if it's that stinky or sneaky. I think we kind of called this when they picked it was just like, man, I don't really know about this one. This is not really trending in the right direction. Yesterday might've fooled us into

really like thinking that this US team was the nor was like business as usual. I would not think we were fooled on last night's show. We were shitting more on the internationals than we were like the US dusted them. Like it was just, US played okay. International's played awful. Like I don't think the US played honestly all that different today than they did yesterday. The internationals just played a lot better golf than they did yesterday. Made a lot more putts. I don't know. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm sure we were we were more shitting on the event as a whole last night and the setup of it than we were, you know,

kind of riding high on how the US played yesterday. I mean, I think there's a little sneaky stink just in the sense of like what we've all been talking about. I just, there aren't guys on here that you have complete confidence in. I don't think like chef learns and are, and that's kind of the list for me. Like beyond that, it's like, is he playing well? Is he not playing well? What, like what version of this guy are we going to get? I feel like it's a bunch of unknowns after that. Ian McBets, should the Mongolian reversal be renamed to the Montreal reversal? Big week for the Mongolian reversal. That one's really getting out there. I would say not yet. I would say not yet, but I like where your head's at.

Yeah, you might want to look up Genghis' record there. Genghis had a little more history than perhaps the internationals did coming back. And be careful when you're going down that Google rabbit hole. That's true. So Randy, do you see a path? Tommy Roach 12. Does Randy see a path is this specific question? Um, I mean, yeah, sure. It's five to five. How could you say there's not a path? I'll double. I don't see a path. Let me flip that. What do you guys there's not a path? Um, I'll double. I don't see it. Let me, let me, let me flip that.

What do you guys, how did today influence your overall predictions? Uh, I think the internationalists, I think that they're, I don't know if I can get with their, their favored, but I absolutely it's a, it's a coin toss for me, which is seems a pretty stick your neck out KVB prediction when they're five, five, but sorry, if you're saying you still don't see a path, the internationals I'll go flip in the other side. I think the international is gonna win. Sure. That's fine. I think they're riding this wave. I think

they care more. I think Adam Scott's gonna raise the trophy Gary players gonna come running into the trophy ceremony. All excited about the international is finally getting it done. It's gonna be sick. I think tomorrow, like mid morning, KV, you're gonna be like, oh, fuck, I just picked like Christian Bezadenhout and Ben on and like, damn it.

Like today was awesome. It's great. Great for the international team. Like, yeah, that's how I think that's what kind of this event needed was we definitely got a boost. We saw signs of life and everything, but the guys like, God, what are we doing here, KV? We're just saying life and everything, but the guys like, done. What are we doing here?

Might stink. I mean, that's the crazy thing. The Canadians are going to start to get into it. Maybe the TCE was pointing out, maybe the newspapers will start covering the event now and they'll get more people engaged, involved, will have, we'll have Canadians swimming across the river

onto the Island, trying to get into the event. It's going to be sick. What'd you guys think of that guy taking his shirts off today? Was that cool? Not as cool as you probably thought it was, Big. I thought it was okay, but I knew you'd love it.

I really do think tomorrow's a fun spot to see this international. Well, I mean, it's a fun spot in how will the US team react? But again, it's like, okay, you had a great day international team. The whole thing is, can you stack them? Can you have two great days?

Can you have a third great day on a single Sunday? You know, I don't have a ton of confidence in that, but it'll be interesting to see. Big, I was at 18 to 12 and I'm still at 18 to 12. Yeah. 17, 18 feels good right now for my call. Yeah like I understand but again like we're probably the same way that we felt after yesterday. Sheila Scott get too far ahead of ourselves here. They

played really really good today because almost everything that they had that needed to go in went in. They made they just the other side just couldn't get anything to fall. Yeah, I was going to say, Soly, what are the putting stats? I said them earlier, but if you miss that Randy, I can run a mic back for you. They beat the US by 16 shots on the greens

and three tee to green. So if it was other side of that, I would feel maybe differently. Like I just, putting is extremely volatile thing and it is not necessarily predictive of what's about to happen. Now is it concerning the US got out ball struck by this team? Yes I think it speaks a little bit to the format but they're gonna play this format again tomorrow. Now again I think the US depth in four ball gets just there's just more golf to be played in

those matches more golf balls in play that's a stronger thing for them. It's tightened down into four foursoms matches is even better for the internationals tomorrow and who knows what happens that afternoon but I think and better for NBC way better. It's way better to watch foursomes versus four ball. It's just a way better product like they have no shot of keeping up with four ball but also I think they I think we have some data there was somebody that tweeted us in ball but also I think they I think we have some data there was somebody that tweeted us in some data from the coverage today listen guys it wasn't fantastic I'm just gonna say this was from Will Felix this was this is within the two o'clock hour golf commercial golf commercial golf playing through

commercial golf commercial golf commercial golf playing through golf commercial golf all within a one-hour window so i gotta say i don't it isn't usually appreciate the will felix when it comes to majors i'm usually like our boots on the ground stuff so i don't watch a lot of tv coverage so this is like one of my first like big events that i've watched it all on tv oh it's tough it is fucking tough is this what you guys are talking about? Yeah. My eyes needed to kind of glaze over during Amsterdam because I'm like, oh yeah, I was like hiking my way out

to 17T and whatever. No, like this is brutal. It's at least, you know what? They had the score book. That's all that really matters. And it's the highlight. So it did make me laugh when one of the things where like they missed, that was a hole that Harmon and Homa won.

And it was literally like they did the entire thing in like a while you're away, like you drove the fairway and then this part was it. And I was like, wait, did the internationals even play this hole? Like we can't literally show a single one of their shots. We don't know what happened. Bones is like an auctioneer when they flipped to him and like, Hey, Max, I'm a one of the green Brad hammer chipped up on the green and it was conceded and now under the fifth hole. That's so true.

Working so hard to make this product work. So, sorry, let me, let me set you up to just bitch about Royal Montreal a little bit. Does the lack of any type of discernible strategy at all, like that's got to favor the international team, right? Or like... I don't know if it does. It just blows my mind that it's like, you know,

it's not an interesting golf course one. and like it's even less interesting for match Play like there's no risk reward elements to it. Like there's no Almost no reactionary decisions you would make based off what the other team does at any point. I mean Again, this is following Royal Melbourne, which was a brilliant match play golf course The way they set up coil hollow was really good for match play I thought, and they just have gone completely backwards. You just could not get a more milk toast golf course

and set up and at least like, again, kind of why we don't care a ton about that in lead ups and even emphasizing it to now, now we're into pitch about the course is kind of a record for us, but like, you know, it's more about the venue and the atmosphere. So at least that was back today a little bit. I mean, it was a noticeable difference on there, you know, it's more about the venue and the atmosphere. So at least that was back today a little bit. I mean, it was a noticeable difference on there, you know, and that's not just tied to the better golf,

the game for the internationals that look like a, you know, something they set out to do. So I still care more about that than I do the actual golf course, but like this is not even get a passing grade as a venue in terms of golf course and challenge and intrigue. Soft Greens have a lot to do with that. That part's not really their fault,

other than to say like, yeah, that was probably likely to happen. I feel no differently tonight than I did yesterday. I was gonna say, you know I'm not like a big course guy. I'm struggling, like I know the greens are really soft. I'm struggling to think of like a truly interesting shot out there, which just kind of sucks from a viewing standpoint.

17 part three is kind of okay. I mean, it's not, I don't know, a little bit interesting. So, you know, C was shot on the back nine and what the other part three was at 15 on the back nine today was really freaking good. Like that was a memorable moment with that club twirl and getting at that back left pin. But yeah, I won't, I don't know if I'll remember

a single hole from this golf course. Is there a single strategic decision really, other than like, do you wanna lay up or try to drive that, you know, that drivable par three, or four, sorry. They moved up 14 a day, more cowhead driver and came up 50 yards short. So I don't really know what, again, maybe Saith should have had that tee shot.

I don't know, but I don't know exactly That's the only one I could think of of like hmm wonder what they're gonna do on this one there's just truly none of it and Yeah, been on ripped driver on 18 Did you like pulls it way left and on course announcers like that's way left that could be in trouble He picks up his tea because he knows it's gonna cover the water and you just go into the left rough completely inconsequential. Standard should just be higher man it really should and that's just how I feel. Not everybody cares about this stuff but it I promise it does affect the viewing

experience but anything else before tomorrow? Kevin do you want to take a victory lap on some of the trees falling at Augusta National, allegedly, as to, you know, heard it here first, maybe start testing some of these trees? Testing those trees, yeah. I don't know. I mean, obviously, like, pretty low priority when the whole, like, poor one out for the richest golf club in the entire United States replacing their trees when all sorts of people are dealing with all kinds of shit in their lives.

But I'm sure that when come April next year, it will be looking like the same trees are well just been moved around and replanted and bolted to the ground. So I don't think you have to cry too hard for that. I'm sure Gary players will at this point. Would it be kind of interesting though, if like some major tree fell,

like the Eisenhower tree did that time and they were just like, yeah, like we're not gonna replace it. That's just part of the way it is now. Like we're, I mean, that'd be great. Take some of those trees out, man. I don't, they don't, they don't need all those. I'm assuming just your Twitter mentions today, we're just, everybody apologizing for your text. Yeah, definitely. A lot of people really thank you for remembering a one throw away line that I sent on Twitter two years ago, which was actually true. Join the club, brother. I'm right there with you.

Not all trees. Honestly, it fucking sucks, man. Like, I know we got a lot of friends and shit in Augusta and Aiken and just crazy, crazy damage. So as much as we, yeah, as much as we are around about everything, like, I hope everybody's okay because it just it sucks. Western coast of Florida a friend of mine had a very scary incident happen last night I mean just yeah if you know hopefully yeah it's I would say hopefully everyone gets to safety if you're listening to this then you have but it's uh it's pretty scary and there could be some more stuff brewing uh down there in the Atlantic as well

So what if I know to end today's show on that one's on me? I do have some have you guys ever actually had milk toast? No, I don't even know what it is. I just know that it's a word. I didn't is it actually is there It's like a breakfast. Yeah, it's like a breakfast dish like we had it growing up all the time I don't know if that was just my Scandinavian slash Irish mix at my household. But Northern Montana thing versus Western Montana. I mean, can I ask you a stupid question? Is it just toast in milk or like what are we talking about here? Yeah, it's kind of like, I would say it's more like a French toast that's kind of saturated in a milk, milk, but it's like kind of sweet milk. You can also put meat and stuff in it.

It's quite delicious sometimes. That's why every time I'm like, oh, yeah, this is milk toast. I'm like, well, come on guys. There are a few better foods in the world after you've been drinking than poutine that you buy like on the street in Canada. Like it is unbelievably good.

So I will ride for poutine forever. Gosh, I miss traveling. You love that sweet, sweet, sweet street food, KVV. Also, what do you kind of want from Fluff? You kind of had a drive-by on him earlier. He's a 76 year old man. Listen, if you're gonna be a driver for the event, why are you doing like, are you sleepy or sitting in the passenger seat? I agree, I just finally, be a driver for the event, why don't you do it in like, are you sleepy

or sitting in the passenger seat? Like, what was the point? I agree, I just finally, we're finally on the same page because that's how I felt at like, the first presidential debate we had. I was like, oh man, just put them away. This guy's just too old for it. Finally, we're on the same page about this.

I'm just glad Floss not carrying a bag. How dare you bring politics to this? No, I've always just laughed at the caddies of the like, the captains getting to come to the events and drive around their captains. I mean, it's such a ridiculous position. I remember when in Paris, Zach Johnson was an assistant captain

and his caddy at the time was there to just basically drive around a cart. And I was like, this seems like a bit of a waste of resources here. I don't think the job is that. The cart cams without like the audio so we just see them like bouncing around. I'm like what are we doing? It's angled like right under the steering wheel too. That's all you see. You don't know who's driving it. Well I remember you guys missed it but the whole time at the last Ryder Cup the the cart cams like right at people's crotches. So we're just getting crotch shots the whole time. This time, at least you're getting kind of like, you know, when you FaceTime your grandpa or something like that.

Was the President's Cup saved today, guys? Uh, honestly, in some ways, yeah. Like if, if the US had gone five and out today and was 10 zip, it would be such a freakinggin disaster. Like it would have truly been like, all right, we we need to like rethink this whole event. Even if the ultimate score was like, you know, 20 to four or whatever, it's it still would have would a lot of alarm bells would have gone off. And now they got a fight and chance. The internationals could, could

basically could pull off one of the great upsets of all time here. And you know how, just as this is where this event is at, people will always cite this Friday at the President's Cup. Oh, it might be, you know, the USA will blow out the rest of this event. And for years and years, articles will be written and they'll be like, but there was that one Friday in Montreal. You guys remember? Yeah, I'll counter that to say like, remember the beginning of the Royal Melbourne. That was a real start. Like they got off the bus, like the US took forever to come back in that one. There was all kinds of great drama, great golf course. Like let's not pretend this thing is still not going downhill. Also, you're not helping me not believe it wasn't a tank job today. You know, on the day where we needed an international team to show up, like a little convenience that we got the five-oh sweep. Do you know though, this is not the greatest single-day performance for an international team

in a President's Cup. In the 2003 president's cup, which saw you and I briefly touched on, I probably didn't spend enough time on this because we're, I was so focused on the tie, but during Saturday's four ball matches, the internationals went six and oh, back when they used to play six, when everyone had to play. So it's, this is a strong, impressive day, but it is still not historic in terms of the president's cup and that is on tom kim and i will i think that is where we have to i'll tell you what if today if today prevents any real change to this event like if i'm furious i'm furious yeah yeah that's kind of where i've been out on this, to the people that were saying that we said

it was gonna be over on Saturday, we merely discussed the possibility of that being a possibility last night, okay? Nobody, I said the internationals would split today's session. You guys were ragged. You thought the US was gonna win today. That was my point. You got the junior president's cups team player.

Of course you weren't serious. Yeah, we were ready to send out the kids. I believe braids. Blades Brown's name was invoked as a potential fill in. Bringing up the kids with them on the on the jet. They're already again, he's playing both sides. Talking about the junior Ryder Cup team. Now talking about how it was all part of the plan. All right, let's move to wrap. This was an absolute treat. Thankful for a fun day.

We'll have a lot of action tomorrow. Guys, the event is imperfect. It's still better than, this should be the tagline, better than the other fall events, right? It's still good to have a week like this, even if the event is extremely imperfect and most definitely can be improved,

but I'm excited to watch tomorrow. Which again makes me suspect, Randy, to your point, it just went a little too well today. So- Tomorrow will be interesting. I think whatever happens tomorrow, it's going to be a good day of golf tomorrow. Tom Dunn here in the chat saying Brian Harmon just saved the President's Cup. So we'll end it with that. Thank you to High Noon, thank you to Mizuho, thank you to Foresight.

Cody running the ones and twos, KVV, and Randy on the mics tonight. Everyone watching live, all 3,000 of you greatly appreciated. You can catch this, you can catch us tomorrow night, Saturday night, and Sunday night as well after each, the final two shows of the year, final two live shows of the year. We've greatly enjoyed bringing these to you.

All right, crack on. Thank you, cheers. Cheers.