No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 950: Live at the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am (Thur)

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

For the second year in a row, we’re live from Pebble Beach! Friends of the program AT&T CEO John Stankey and Masters Champion Trevor Immelman pop into the show, KVV joins for a special AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am trivia, news and notes, laughs and more. Presented by AT&T. Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining The Nest: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at nolayingup.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club. Be the right club today. Yeah! Yeah! Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different? Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast. This is DJ here. Listen, we had a little bit of an audio snafu. This might not match up perfectly with your YouTube channel.

First couple of minutes of audio got clipped. So that's what we're here doing, Neil. Just a little backfill. They call this an insert shot, you know, after the fact we're doing some pickups and I want to welcome everybody to day two of our live shows. Neil, good to be with you, man. Always good to be with you, brother. Good to be with all of you listening out there. Listen, details matter to us, and that's why we're here. That's exactly right.

We've got a great show on tap. All kinds of guests coming through. We've got CEO of AT&T, John Stanky, coming through. We've got Trevor Immelman coming through. We've got the Belugas Big Board. We're gonna be keeping a diligent eye on. We're gonna wrap up a little round one, and we got a bunch of good games.

KVV is gonna come through. It was a great show. So stick around and the first couple of voices you're gonna hear is gonna be me and Neil joined by Solly and AT&T CEO, John Stanky. Happy to be here. Glad I bumped into you in the buffet line and you invited me in.

We need a fourth, man. If you can eat 20 minutes, God, we got this three hour show. It's, yeah. In a year. Thanks for coming. Well, I will say, there's live golf being played right now, so what better way to, you know,

kick off some live golf than with a live CEO? That's right. Everyone's favorite part of the broadcast. So if I stay alive for 30 minutes. Well, letting the listeners know, this was our idea. This is not a forced CEO-sponsored interview, but John is a big golf fan. We have a lot of, a lot of fun stuff.

I think we wanted to chat with you about today. It's a treat for me to be here with you guys after listening to you for so long. Well, let's I'd start there. It sounds like you're a listener to the podcast. What should we do differently? What makes you slam on your steering wheel? When you're like, what take is like, why bad take that you need? What's a bad take from us that you would like to just get out, you know, just put it out there. Do you get paid by the minute or do you get paid for a show?

That's my first question. Cause if you get paid by the minute, I understand why you go on as long as that's the, I've heard that for you. You know what, John, we got, we sit every single meeting that comes up and just like, all right, how we got to make the pod shorter. We've got to, and then every Sunday it's like, well, an an hour 59. I mean we kept it under two hours Yeah, like this is an hour this week totally an hour and it just never works It's always 90 right about 90 minutes and that's an improvement from years, you know years ago. You mentioned work on that Yeah, okay. That's good. We'll take that. We'll take that to heart. You mentioned, you know being a podcast listener audio

Just being a more of a part of your life. What other podcasts you listen to? Oh, I hit and I hit a news string in the morning. So I'll typically hit up first. I'll listen to, you know, kind of a couple of Politico releases. I'll usually get one or two New York Times pieces that I'll listen to. And then if I have time for luxury, then it goes to no laying up or, you know, it goes to how things are made or something like that that I can get into. That's always my treat at least one day a week. We talk, obviously, you've heard a lot of these conversations, I guess, just about all

the changes that have been made, obviously, with the PGA Tour. This event alone has gone from, there wasn't signature events back in the day, but it went from a PGA Tour event now to a signature event. When this model started coming out, what was your mindset in terms of what you wanted AT&T to be involved with? You're obviously a host of a signature event now. Why was that important to AT&T? The primary reason we're in golf is we want to get access to business decision makers,

people who have buying responsibilities inside companies for network services. And so golf is a good example of a sport that tends to attract on average more business decision makers and then other places you can go to put your brand or advertise or try to it comes also with a hospitality element. And as you astutely pointed out in the podcast you did on kind of the monetization of the business, although we never really sold anything to the Brazilian army. That was a very specific example. Random example. It just kept coming up. We did the Brazilian army deal right here in this room, if I'm not mistaken. We had a couple of generals here. Personally, I couldn't tell if that was a real thing or if he just was like

coming up with it so specifically. It's got to be real. Yeah. We do have customers that use our services that aren't in Brazil. It's an opportunity to have them out, build a relationship with them. And sometimes our relationships are pretty sizable. They can be tens of millions of dollars a year. And you don't necessarily win the business because you brought somebody

here to Pebble Beach, but I will guarantee you that if you have business with them and something isn't going well, and they have a renewal, they'll pick up the phone and they'll call you and talk to you before they do anything. And so there's a lot of revenue at stake there. Golf is great to get business decision makers. It's a great opportunity to do that.

The reason we wanted to move this to a signature event is our belief is you want to associate the brand with quality. So the quality of the field, rise the impression on the brand. And when the decisions were being made about how to get better fields in golf, this became an opportunity to kind of structure an event in a way where it not only got a better field for the professionals, it also gets a great field for business decision makers. You know,

some of the top CEOs in the country and the world are here. They'll play, we get to spend time with them. There's a lot of sharing that goes on and that's a good formula for us as a company. Yeah, we spent a significant amount of time yesterday trying to get hit by, you know, this is a great event to spectate and try to get hit by one of those CEOs. Not hard.

I thought I was trying to pull in the Donald Cotter coffee. The first team. Your church almost got me this morning. Behind my arm. There is a true kind of a Kyle Porter normal sport only in golf sort of thing. I mean, we're out watching Scottie Scheffler, you know, this morning. Yeah, man, that's there he is. There's the best probably the best player since Tiger Woods guy just can't stop winning.

And then all of a sudden just a missile comes out of nowhere. It's a yellow golf ball squeaking into the rough. Yeah. And there's just as people, you know, out on the playing field. the missile comes out of nowhere. It's a yellow golf ball squeaking into the rough. I'm like, who hit that? You know, and there's just people, you know, out on the playing field. It's like LeBron's driving to the hoop and oh, he's got to avoid this CEO McDonald. It's just a very interesting.

That's why the CEO of AT&T doesn't play in the tournament. So you must've played in, I don't know, a bazillion pro-ams, I'm sure. I want to ask you, this is on my list, most nervous you've ever been on the golf course. Uh, first year to guest the first time. Yeah. First year to guest the first time. How did it go? Uh, that trap on the right and I are really, really good.

Probably gets beat up. Yeah. What was it like? I mean, this tournament has such a unique history with the tradition of the program. They met back being Crosby. It was, I mean, this tournament has such a unique history with the tradition of the program. They back being Crosby. It was, I mean, it correct me if I'm wrong, a bit of you upset the apple card at least a little bit when you, when you switched to this format of how it's run now, what was kind of that, uh, that balance like for you guys, you know? So there's, uh, in addition to the tour, there's three big players that participate here, Pebble Beach company that of course puts the facilities up,

which it's a great golf course. It's the course that of course puts the facilities up, which is a great golf course. It's the course that every player wants to play and they don't necessarily have to give it up for an event like this. Second is Monterey Peninsula Foundation, which is the charitable arm. And then third is us as the sponsor. And so when we kind of stepped back and we looked at what was going on, you know, we want to make sure we're raising money for charity because that's one reason why we like to be involved with golf is the sponsorship dollars do some good. Then it has to work for the rest of our partners.

It has to work for the resort. It has to work for the tour. It has to work for the players. There was a lot of negotiation that went on. Our feeling was we needed to get round times down. Players were telling us that they would be more likely to play this event if they were playing without amateurs on the weekend so that they could play at a little faster pace.

They didn't like playing three golf courses and prepping for three courses, so getting it down to two with three rounds of pebble was a big driver. We still needed to raise the money for charities, so we had to come up with an economic model that ensured that there was enough money coming in that could go to the local charities. It was a lot of give and take around that.

That's how we came up with this format. I'd have to say, by and large, almost all the constituents believe that this is probably a better solution right now. Which is so... I think that's why I'm so excited for this week is everything you just said is how I was feeling last year. I got this amazing Saturday. I'm like, Sunday, this is this is it. This is what we've been working towards.

And of course, that got ripped out by weather. And now so we're back again this year. I got two years worth of like, I think this is going to work. And I think Sunday is going to be really good. And now you see the golf course is firm and it's a different setup and a smaller field. It's just there's been so many things coalescing towards a really good Sunday and I hope we're gonna get it this week or this year. Because all that also a lot of the stuff that you're you know in favor of and all that is good for the fans at home. That's what

our lens always is right and I just felt like man it feels like the best players in the world should play Pebble Beach all together right and that now it's happening and it it really was a pumper last year to lose that Sunday. Yeah, it was it was trending in the right direction. It was a bitter Sunday to, you know, deal with that dynamic because everything up to that point had been kind of going out the plan. But you're right. I mean, one of the things we want, we want to see really strong TV audience, we would want fan engagement. It's strong, right? It's important. Business decision makers are

important. But we have a lot of consumers out there that watch this too. So John, I want to change gears. You're one of these business decision makers. I'm gonna call you the golf star for a day. What rule, you can change one rule tomorrow, what are you changing? What's your least favorite rule in golf? Uh, I think you should have a traveler. I just, that rule isn't a rule in golf, but I think you should have a traveler. That's what a CEO wants. What's your biggest pet peeve on the golf course? Slow play. Yeah. How would you, as a decision maker, how would you fix it?

I think I would start getting management of golf courses need to start getting ruthless. I think the, on the tour, there needs to be some discussion amongst the professionals around what they want to do amongst themselves to start enforcing a different regimen. They need to agree on something and then do it. But I just, I've gotten as I've gotten older, even less tolerant. If I'm on the golf course longer than

four hours and 15 minutes it feels like an eternity anymore. Yeah, there's a lot of talk about obviously the entries into these tournaments, these signature events are highly sought and fought for and there are sponsor exemptions available for these tournaments which I would argue and imagine that the process for that is even a little different as a signature event versus was when it was a standard event. What's your involvement one in sponsor exemptions and what's the thought process into, as a check signer for the event, what kind of person or player you're looking forward to add to the event and why?

Sure. I can't speak to how all events do it. I can tell you what we've done historically in the events we've been involved with and as I indicated, this is a partnership and how we get this done between the Pebble Beach Company and the foundation. And so we all talk and we wanna try to make sure everybody accomplishes something as they go through it.

I won't lobby or the company will lobby for certain individuals. And from my point of view, an element of this should be merit. So I like to look and see if, despite the fact that there's a well-thought process of who qualifies, is there somebody who didn't qualify

that's playing incredibly well or has a history of playing incredibly well on this kind of a format and setup that made sense that you'd want to bring in? I would tell you, obviously, if it's somebody we have a commercial relationship with or a key partner or customer that we're inviting that maybe sponsors somebody, that might factor into that decision making.

And that's really kind of what you're trying to look for. And then there's sometimes that rare instance when a very popular player isn't qualified for some particular reason and you know they're going to bring crowd interest in the game. And you say, if that person is here, it's for the betterment of golf, because it brings in some viewership and activity. And then you make a decision based on that. How important would you say sponsors exemptions are to a sponsor? I know you're only speaking for yourself and your company and your,

the trio that you're speaking for there, but as a, you know, as somebody that is contributing significantly financially to it, how important is it to you? I think it's on the margin, relevant. I would find it hard to believe that there is a deal or a relationship you wouldn't have without them. If you lost them, there's still all kinds of other value and things that you drive toward. But I do think they're convenient in certain circumstances. and it's important. And you know, I don't think I'm breaking any news here. Great example in this particular event is because of Jordan's injury and how he played

last year and what the circumstances were, he technically wasn't qualified for this event. So it's the AT&T and it's very nice to have a sponsor's exemption to make sure you know, I don't think, I think somebody else probably would have given him one. Yeah. But you know, the fact that it was our event, and he's really important to us, and he's a great ambassador for it, and he had a circumstance that was a bit unusual. It feels good to have that to be able to do that. I think you touched on some of this earlier, but I think the Jordan thing kind of reminds me that, you know, you've been in this world long enough probably to notice, we always talk about a bit of a change in when the PJ Tour used to be kind of a traveling circus, it was about onsite experience, it was about taking care

of the people who were there, that's still the big driver for companies like yourselves. But it's also as purses go up, as things change, it does become much more important to be an entertainment product. How have you felt that push and pull just from where you sit? And also because you guys are in a ton of other sports and are kinda trying to navigate this elsewhere too.

Do you get kind of scratched out there? I feel exactly the same way you feel as a fan, right? I'm a fan and the company looks at it just like a fan looks at it. And so as all of us have struggled as individuals looking at what's going on with the sport, who's playing where, who's at the top of the leaderboard, why can't these people compete with one another. That processes into my thought process as a decision maker of a company who's allocating

advertising budget. And there are a lot of different places, as I said earlier, that business decision makers go. They go to other sports and other events. And we're fairly mechanical about how we value these things. We think about the number of impressions that we get. We put values on those things related to ratings on TV. If you're getting lower viewership and you're paying the same, then your cost per impression just went up. We compare it to other sports, all that goes on. And so that formula is under a constant review.

I think what's important to understand is we, this is our 40th year here at this tournament, right? 40 years we've been doing this. We've had a long, productive relationship with the tour. And there's been a lot of give and take over that. And so every business goes through changes. My business is going through changes The golf is going through changes Television is going through changes being patient working with partners that you've had long relationships with that you've worked with is important But ultimately you got to get the formula that works, right? Yeah Took off-site. Yeah, I think outside of golf. So we just had a team offsite for pro trash holdings, doing business as no laying up. Where did you go? Hawaii?

No, we did it here. And then Tuesday we cut it off and started our, you know, content. What's the best offsite you've ever run? And what do you think makes a good offsite? I feel like you've probably done a lot of them. You know, I don't know if I could say the best one I've ever run. Um, we did one here one year, uh, that, that I know the management team very much enjoyed because it was a little bit of a rarity to be in such a nice

outside to get a little bit of idea about the culture of our business. And what I do, I take them to marble falls, Texas every year for our offsides, you ever been there? No, I haven't. He's going to, it's to be a resort, baby. There's five golf courses down there. And it's efficient. It's very efficient. I don't think anybody's going to ever criticize the company for spending some shareholder money to get people together.

We get a lot done in a week and there are all the things we need to do. I always enjoy those personally. I'm not sure where the management team comes out on out. But you have one here that went well. Yeah, they like that one a lot. All right, good. See, there you go. That was over 10 years ago. That was in a different game. Well, I've always kind of wanted to ask somebody like you this. I'm a golf podcaster. All my friends here are golf podcasters. I wake up in the morning pretty stressed about the day ahead of me. I got like 10 stakeholders in my family and I'm pretty stressed about it. It feels busy from the beginning of the

day to the end of the day. What in the world does it feel like in your shoes? Do you wake up in a panic every morning about all the things you have to do? Teach me how to manage my stress. You're probably hearing your name pop up on these podcasts you're listening to. That's gotta be kind of weird. There's an important thing that's different that when I wake up in the morning, there isn't like a one or two year old running around my house at the stage of my life.

It's all these cases. So there is a difference between, you know, at my age and kind of my stage of my career, you become a little bit more focused and committed on your professional life and a little less distracted on your family life. Fortunately, I have adult children that are very capable and out doing their thing, but to answer your question, I don't want to take the magic out of it or the mystery out of it.

I think people who are committed individuals, people who want to excel and do well, everybody gets up and says they want to do their job really, really well. And they want to go put in eight hours, nine hours, 10 hours, and be the best at what they do. And I don't think that's any different for me than it is for you. And so if you have a set of personal standards and objectives and things that you want to do, you get up in the morning, you go, I want to go kill it today. You know, I want to, I want to get this right. I want to nail it. I don't think it's any different for me. The only difference is maybe the decision I'm making has a few zeros after it, but it's, it's a little bit like when you go to a crap stable in Vegas and you know, the limits are too high for you. You just think about betting units instead of the

fact that, you know, they're a hundred dollars. Nuggets. Yeah. For sure. And I think that's just the way it works for people. You're, You work really hard. I work really hard. Are you an early riser? I am an early riser, about 445. And then you have a block of personal time then before you let the inbox flood over you? The morning is first check is usually weather to see what's going on and either where I'm traveling or where I am or my business is impacted by weather. So I kind of pay attention to what's going on there. Well, weather app here, Jan. That's a big point, a talking point. Is it really? Oh, yeah. Dark sky. Well, now that's Apple. Weather bug. The bugs. I have a weather underground and

I also use the weather channel. Okay. We'll let TC know. he's our kind of internal meteorologist. I don't know I have any expertise on it Then it's into the news streams And then it'll be a quick check of kind of whatever things blew up in the middle of the night whether it's email or text That something went really bad And then I'll put that away go do some exercise for a bit takes me a little while to get my body moving the right Direction and then after that, I clean up and drive into the office. So that's kind of what the morning looks like. But there is an important two hours of quiet time.

Do you feel like most of the day you're reacting to stuff, or are you proactive? Right, like people say CEOs put out a lot of fires. Is that true? The day, there are days where it can be reactive, or mostly reactive. If every day is reactive, then I'm probably not doing my job correctly. I think what a CEO, if you're talking about the stress or what do you think about, I get

up in the morning thinking about how can I run the business in a way that it's not reactive, that it's more structured, predictable, that there's processes in place for people to figure out how to spend their time and spend it on the priorities. That's a, that's a big part of kind of what I need to do in my job. And so the more days that we have that we're kind of calling the plays in advance and running our allocation of time, our meetings, the things that we're focused on that are well thought out weeks in advance, versus reacting to the week's news or what's going on. That's a good thing when that's happening routinely. What was your first job? My very first job?

Yeah, somebody asked me this the other day and I hadn't thought about it in years and it did take a- Well, before I actually got employed by somebody, I used to deliver papers and cut lawns and I was- Pretty much a lot of it. My first job, I went to work at a family sporting goods store

and I started stringing tennis rackets for piecework. And it was a really, really good learning experience because, you know, one I got paid based on how much output I had. And the second was a family run shop. And I watched these individuals that were running this thing, making decisions like, are they going to buy more shoes this week or are they gonna feed their family? And so there were a lot of lessons in business that I kind of picked up early from that.

Could you still string a tennis racket? I could still string a tennis racket. Love hearing that. What about changing your own grips? I got pretty proficient. Yes, you've heard about that? No, I haven't. I have a grip station in my garage.

Oh, come on. So Cody, that might be another one. Yeah. No, that's just struck gold there. While you're out here, I can probably knock it out a few for you. Cody put this Instagram video out of him re-gripping clubs for the first time in probably a decade. And he just, I mean, he got obliterated in the comments. People said he wasn't level.

You have to have the right tools to be efficient there. Maybe that's what the problem. I looked okay to me. I thought you were doing fine, but maybe you guys can compare notes later. Yeah. I've got a grip station in my garage. I do my own grips. Love that. They're expensive, you know? They are. They are. Well,

they, you know, taking care of them, hopefully you don't gotta change them too much. Flipping over a little bit to, you know, kind of some of the decision-making background skills that you have and being a stakeholder with the PGA tour during a time of change, I believe you called it. I think there's a few things going on in the, in the greater golf world that have been a bit challenging. Have you, are you available to the PGA Tour

for advice on any of this stuff? Would you give advice on any of this? I'm just kind of curious, the level of your stakeholder, you know, and the experience you have, if you feel like you can help a situation like this. I'm available all the time. And, you know, as I said, it's a long relationship.

It's been there for a while, whether it's J or his management team and their relationships with key individuals within our business want to work as a partnership, and including whether it's a antitrust-related issue that they want some counsel on because we've had experience litigating and we can give some advice on or as a sponsor that is trying to figure out how to run their business, what would you react to if we did this, this or this?

Of course we're available and of course we'll provide counsel. Now they have a lot of stakeholders. I'm just one sponsor, one event, a long standing sponsor, but I'm very well aware that within that context, they got a lot of different stakeholders and speaking from a little bit of experience, it is really hard to run a talent business. Talent businesses are really hard businesses to run and professional sports and professional golf is a talent business.

That's well said. Yeah. I hadn't really thought about it in that. That's why I struggle with all this. You got your talent. It's unbelievable. No, technically. I'm trying to keep all these guys, you know, I'm not getting enough mic time. All this is yes. John, I totally, we can talk. Yeah.

What you need to do is open like a 11 PM to 1 AM channel or something. And then you just relegate. So you want more mic time? Yeah, that's like a trap. That's what I do on the trap. I'll give you all the tricks. Well, do you, do you have a, um, I don't want to sound like a cliche, but a business motto or something you learned early in your career, the way you like to, you know, run things like what, what's a, what maybe a quote or something? Yeah, I don't have a credo or a business model or anything cute that I can put on the cover of a book that I'm never going to write. But I do have 10, 10 operating principles that I've kind of worked on over the years that, and I won't go through them.

Trust me, this is the last thing you want a podcast like this. But I do look at them and I do pay attention to them. And I communicate about to folks saying, this is kind of from an operating perspective, how I'd like people to think about operating their business every day. And, you know, kind of what's wrapped in all that that I think is really, really important is it's not easy to run a successful business. And some of it just gets right down to perseverance. It gets down to that I get up in the morning, I want to do a good job. I want to be a professional recognized for what I do, and I am going to just persevere and stick with this until I get it right. Probably good golfers are that way, right? They grind. They get out there, they stick with it, they don't get thrown off when something bad happens. Business is a little bit like that.

You got to give me one. One of the 10. One of the operating principles. Yeah. Yeah. One of the operating principles that starts with the customer and it's, they're the ones who are paying the bill. So you have to kind of sit there and understand what it is they like about what you're doing. And everybody should be relating what they're doing back to something that's triggering a customer benefit because if you don't do that, ultimately they stop paying the bills and you stop paying the bills.

You just don't have a relevant business. It's a bit like the year of the product. That's kind of what we were trying to scratch at. There you go. That's right. How's the golf game? As bad as it usually is. Did you grow up playing? No, I didn't. I didn't start playing probably until I was in college. I felt like I was getting left out to the nighttime runs to the lighted nine hole course down the street that was really more about drinking games than actually playing golf and started playing then. And I kind of was on and off and it wasn't until the company I was working for was bought by a company that was just a bunch of golf fanatics.

And it became easier to play golf because of that. And I, pretty late in my life actually, I was probably in my late 30s at that point and I got back into it and I've got the love for it at that point I'm just totally bit by the bug at this point a whole family plays my son's play and my wife plays it's how we spend our time I love it what's I asked you this off Mike but what's what's the where do you need to get to in the golf world that you've never been to that's top of the list? I think the family and me, I've not played really much at all in the UK and so I'd love to get overseas and play there and get a chance to have a trip and my sons would

very much like me to spring for that trip for them. And it just, as I told you, it feels very unjust that at my ripe age, I haven't been there and somehow they're going to get this solved early in their lives. So dad run the team off site over there. Maybe I would team up side in Edinburgh. A little bit of conflict on this. Um, and that that's probably the top of the bucket list right now. I have a couple of friends that we've never

done the Trent Jones trail. We want to get a motor home and roll down the Trent Jones trail for a few days. Or maybe you could get down to Brazil for that. I'm waiting for the Brazilian army to invite me down. So I can read with them about how the network's performing down there. If you didn't listen to the sponsorship pod, you're probably very confused about this. But we appreciate you spending half an hour with us. I know you got a very busy week and thanks for having us out. This has been an absolute blast and thanks for joining us and shining some light on a bunch of things we always talk about but a little more meaningful coming from someone like you. Well, I love what you guys do for the game and I love your energy around it so it's great to participate and be part of it. So thank you very much for

having me in. Thanks, John. All right, we'll see you. Thanks a lot, John. Neil, let's look at the leaderboard a little bit. We've got a golf tournament going on out there. We've got all kinds of- Which leaderboard? The big board or the actual board? Why don't we look at the actual leaderboard

and then maybe we can revisit the Beluga's big board. Of course, we have Cam Davis in the lead, eight under through 16 holes. Jake Knapp and Russell Henley tied at 7 under Justin Rose, 6 under Country Music Sensation, Eric Cole, Rory McElroy, Austin Eckero, Taylor Pendres, Siwoo Kim, Eric Van Ryan, Justin Thomas Lee, Hagessep Straka, and Victor Hovland. At 5 under, I think there's the Belugas Big Boards kind of

taking some body blows there, I feel like. So, so early in this but yes there's some names that were in the 70s the 60s I believe Hovland was in the 50s but Straka Justin Thomas feeling great about that. Harry Hall just you want to give up Mayokulpa to Harry Hall if you're listening I'm sorry you were the 80th guy that I left off of the big the big board. We thought it might have been Emiliano Vio. We thought it might have been Emiliano. We thought it could have been Patton Kezire. It was not.

It was Harry Hall. He's in the field. Obviously that means he's gonna play well. You know, part of my brain was going through when John was talking about sponsors exemptions and how important it's just important to reward guys who are playing great. He was a sponsor exemptions.

I was almost like, well, John, let me tell you about Beluga's big board. And I was like, maybe we take that off. I don't know if we need to do that. I know the people are curious. Doug Gim. Yeah, you're going to have to scroll a bit. You're going to have to scroll.

Doug is currently T77. So I want to apologize. I do want to say that we got out in front of that one. We tried to go out and watch with Spyglass this morning. Couldn't couldn't. I didn't have enough time to get out to see Doug, but we're rooting for him. That's that's three shots better than Ludwig. Ludwig at plus five.

DJ, I have something. Yeah. I got a big old mea culpa. Sure. You guys haven't noticed this. I thought you guys crushed the CEO interview for the first two minutes of the show. We didn't have any audio. Really?

So what happened is that we have a normal two camera shoot, right? Sure. And we dropped it because we wanted to make sure that John got in the seat. The issue is, is that that video file was also tied to the audio line. So you guys just sat there talking and, and nobody really heard anything, but it was a phenomenal introduction. And I saw you guys crushed it. You know, we pivoted, we got it there, but I needed to get it on the record.

Okay. I'm going to add that to my, my list of operating principles is let's make sure the audio is always on. That's number, that's number one. So we're a podcast company. You know what? A lot of communication is nonverbal. I'm wondering if that could possibly be on, uh, John's operating principles. I think we were very, we were, you know, I shook your hand. It was a lot of that. Yeah. Well, you know what, Cody, now that we do have some audio, let me just

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Yes of the game TC and Randy greetings gentlemen looking great. We're all kind of matching. I like that It's great to see you guys. Sorry to be here We're just sitting out on the veranda out here taking in a little bit of the live show from afar and Just watching some golf on the third third green here. One of my favorite holes at Pebble Beach I mean, I don't know that you could really, hard to be picky about the lots around Pebble, but God, this might be- It's a nice bluff.

Tip top of the list, man. Nice bluff. If you'd like to just overlook, you know, three, four, six, seven, things of that nature. We stopped behind four green, five tee. We talked to Chuck for a bit. Really? No, I mean, just for his house.

Metaphorically. I mean, Randy, I need I need three things. What'd you see out there? Before I get into three things? How much of a relax? Nice to see you too, Neil. I'm a luminary. Mark, I John tennis racket. Yeah, changing his own grip. Of course. But yeah, but he was doing that back in the days of gut string. Yeah. Yeah

So props to him. I could I could use a restringing in my tennis rackets three things t Well, let me just set it up real real super quick. Just a couple things We're gonna get to today. We kind of we kind of shifted the order around originally. We were gonna start here I was gonna run through the agenda. I was gonna say that we're gonna be joined by John Stanky, which we just were amazing Love it. That was great. I was ready to go We've got a little we're gonna talk a little John Stanky, which we just were, amazing. Love it, that was great. We're just ready to go. We've got a little, we're gonna talk a little golf. Neil and myself, along with Cody, went out to Spyglass this morning, hadn't been out to Spyglass in quite a while.

Second time on the property, which we can talk about. Which we can talk about. We watched some of the world's best out there, which was great. I know you boys strolled around Pebble Beach, so we'll talk a little bit about what we saw this morning. We've got a little, if people remember

our golf adjacent video from the PGA championship number of years ago, we did kind of an homage to that. Just a little bit of a Neil and Randy walk around Pebble Beach video. We will roll that. We're gonna be joined by one of our favorites in the game, Trevor Immelman later on today.

Of course, we're gonna keep an eye on the Belugas Big Board. And of course, we're gonna keep an eye on round one of the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am. So with that said Why don't we volley? Why don't we volley? Why don't you guys give us something you saw a pebble and then you maybe ship it over to us? I think we got to lead it off with it's no time You know, can you can yeah, can you take the listeners back to this Anthony noto? Yeah, so He is so fine. I have a friend that I don't know how it came up but he was like oh yeah noto so he played football west point and he was like yet noto tore both acls in

the same play you guys were like glowing brain on the same on the same play that might be the most and I was like man I hope I got that right and and so you guys were like we have to go confirm that and and you did and you did. Yeah. So we went down to the pudding. Was that just the first? Yo, no, you guys. I said to Randy, I said there, there's no no right there. He's putting and I'm like, I'm like, truly never met the guy in my life. He doesn't know me from anybody else on property. I'm like, do I do I just hit him with like, yo, Anthony, you're like, Hey, Mr.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, do I just hit him with like a yo Anthony you're like hey mr. Nodo. You know Tony. I think I did you know I hit him with the mr. Nodo. Hey mr. Nodo you don't know me. All right but my name I even gave my real cover I said I'm Phil from no lying out he's like looking at me like that's cool like this guy intense intense character and I go hey uh you might know my my my co-worker Neil Shoezy. He doesn't. No I don't know. I'll go, Hey, you might know my my co worker, Neil Shoes. He doesn't. I don't know. Okay, great. I will. It's lore amongst us. We heard a story. Did you tear both your ACLs on the same play in college? And I didn't know if he was going to tell me to, you know, like a hike. I didn't know. Yeah, exactly. So there was like a brief pause. And I'm like, Oh,

god, TC sit over. It's easy. I was gonna film exactly. So there was like a brief pause and I'm like, Oh God, TC sitting over there. I was going to film it and I was like, no, we're not filming this. This guy's too intense. And he leaned into it and he goes, I did. And I go, how did that happen? And granted, he's like on his way to the first tee, you know, he's himself because they're playing in the same group together. I'll be right with you. I can lock in with my guy. But it was probably a lot of that going around. I'm guessing. It was our own kid blindsided all over the place. Got a crack back block.

Well, we can confirm it's a true story. Okay. All right. That's very relieving. He said he was pursuing the quarterback. So I'm guessing what linebacker DN maybe. Yeah. Maybe a safety blitz. Maybe a safety blitz. Maybe he was up in the box, you know, and he's pursuing the quarterback. And he said, you know, he took a step in this wide receiver kind of crashed down on his trail leg. There goes one ACL, like almost in the midst of that happening, he gets the quarterback in his graph. Somehow the quarterback falls, tears the ACL in his front leg, two ACL tears.

I mean, I've never heard that. Yeah. Never heard of that. Except I bet that's happened in slam ball. For sure. I'm shocked if that's happened elsewhere in the history. Thank you for tracking that down. And I feel vindicated.

You guys are like, there's no way. Well, we've been talking about it all week. I know. I know. That's so you guys go here. I don't know if you can find those player notes in. I know. I know. That's so you guys go here. I don't know if you can find those player notes in the, on PJ tour.com.

That's exactly right. And if he goes on, imagine he goes on to win this week. Yeah. Right. You know, you battle back from that. You'd get back on the golf course. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's a golf shot into six. Yeah. We were. He dumped one in the bunker from the middle of the fairway

on three and then spun one back 25 feet on number six. Pretty good move. Decent. He's an, you can tell he's gritty. He's an absolute grinder. He might have some rat mode in him. Wanted. Love that. Well, we went down to Spyglass this morning, which was a delight.

I hadn't been out there in a number of years. It was kind of, we were joking. It was kind of the perfect golf experience, golf washing experience, where it's like, you know, we walked around for two hours, probably saw six shots. A lot of people out there. No, no. Which I think is my, my block is that I would make a plea to anybody who's like,

man, I'm thinking about taking a trip, maybe getting out of the cold weather. If you want to go watch, like, especially with the changes to this, to become a signature event, if you want to go watch who's out there, Scotty Scheffler, Jordan Spieth, Justin Thomas, Rory McIlroy, Ludwig. Spyglass today. On a Thursday morning, just not a lot of people out there. Like this is the tournament to come to. Get out of the cold, get a place here, go walk around. Let's get out of the cold.

Well, get out of the snow. Well, it's a pleasant hike through like, you know, you kind of start on the beach at Spyglass, not on the beach, but views of the ocean. And then you kind of walk in the woods on the back nine. But it's a, you know, it doesn't feel like a major championship in a way that it's like, uh, it's a major championship style field, but it's you're right up next to him. You know, you're not fighting pretty good viewing angles because of that. So we miss, we miss Rory, uh, alley open it. Yeah.

Roy made an ACE, uh, which we missed by about, about four minutes, but we were there for them repairing the cup. Cody, I don't know. I don't know if you have that photo, Cody, but we were there to watch them repair the cup to make sure that was all done properly. What a thrill that is. Yeah, so that was cool. Always fun to see them. I don't know that that compares with the double ACL thing,

but it's, you know, we were on site for that. What's your experience at Spyglass? Well, I remembered, I had said yesterday, I'd never seen Spyglass. That's not true. We pulled up and I was like, oh, I remember this. And it's always always giving me trouble because I'm always working like TA3 and TA4 in the stories.

But they're a big part of, I used to come down here and watch TA3 like three years in a row. So Tommy, TA4, Tommy Armour IV and I came down here and we got to play at Monterey Peninsula, the Dunes course, or the shore, sorry, the shore course. And we had this epic day on the shore course. And we were just, the boys were feeling themselves. And we had this epic day on the short course and we were just the boys were Feeling themselves and we were like, whoa, we got it in ta is like we got it's an emergency

We got a get let's go see if spyglass will let us play nine holes. I bet they will So we roll up in there. It's an emergency just walk in the pro shop like guys. It's an emergency We would love any way we can get out just for nine doesn't look like blazer striping and we gotta go play absolutely not. You guys didn't you guys? They were like, no, didn't you guys pull the Cypress? To uh, yeah, but that was a different, that was a different year. That was with TA three. Um, it was like, no, we were just at the shore course. No, it's an emergency. And they were, they just said, absolutely not.

And so when I, we rolled up today, I was like, Oh, I remember this clubhouse. It's like you out of here. So we got a couple other things. Let's start back to Pebble. What else you guys see? We were doing, we were hanging out around the putting green first tee area, comparing Randy's length and height to Danny Ange was standing there. How does Saul standing there? A lot of seven footer, some of the biggest and best names in basketball. Yeah.

It's all the sudden started walking around. We saw him getting into the shuttle. I thought his aesthetic was solid. He had a really nice shot into seven. Yeah. Uh, you know, hit the green, uh, green. But really the standout performer of our, our walkabout, we walked all the way out to eight and nine T was, was Coltrick's Ryan. He almost made it on two. He almost made it two on two. He de-birdied one. He's almost made it

two on two and, and just absolutely flashed to the point where like Ryan chill, man. Yeah. Everyone's just here to have fun. You're trying to. To raise some dope or charity. Yeah. Uh, God, well, we saw him fly away into the Pacific Ocean yesterday. We did. We sure did. That's interesting. He must've got a dial.

He's probably upset about the whole, you know, Yeti. Yeah. The Utah Yeti situation. That's possible. Uh, I got another observation. Yeah. Um, I saw Will's Al-Tourist tee off, uh, off number 10. I'm shocked.

I'm hearing he's, uh, gained 20 pounds. I'm shocked. I'm hearing he's gained 20 pounds. Well, I was like, did it look like it? No. That's what I was like. I mean, it was, he was filled out, but he's still just a slender guy. So that was something. I also, there was just a lot of room on the frame to work with. Well, what's your other observation? Sorry. We got to see Jay Monahan tee off, which again was like a... With his college buddy, Sam. Exactly. Sam Kennedy was out there. It was, I would say, an underwhelming response. Not a lot of fans out there, but people were kind of like, any boos? No.

No boos. No, it's not that kind of grab. We're not doing that, TC. But it was kind of a, I thought a really nice move. And it also is like, this is just weird. And again, I'm not advocating anybody else thinks display or does this. Maybe it's just cause we've been to so many golf tournaments. Maybe it's just cause we've just followed so many tournaments.

Would be kind of sick to just follow Jay for nine holes. Like, you know, like where else could you, where else could you do that? Like out at Spyglass today, what'd you get into? I mean, I just, you know, I watched Jay Monahan play nine holes, like, you know, shot where else could you, where else could you do that? Like out at Spyglass today? What, what'd you get into? I mean, I just, you know, I watched Jay Monahan point, died holes, like, you know, shot like 44. Kind of, I just think it'd be kind of interesting. He's got a pretty good move.

Really good move. And I truly build around. I genuinely think if you ever told me that my first question, why, I'm surprised. I thought you had the grit. Can he build around, you know, it's not going well. Double at the first. What does he do? Does he bounce back?

Yeah, I thought he moved the ball pretty well. A tight draw, maybe a little overdraw. Yeah. It was, uh, it was, I thought a pretty good move. You want to talk about some left with the drivers. I hate to report this, but I think it's our fiduciary duty to our audience. Max homeless driver does not look good at the moment. He's fighting. He's battling, but we saw him way left on one. We saw him way left on two. We saw him way left on six.

I can, I can report, I can report. He's got it to one under, but that is T58. That was in the blue this big board. Also in the blue this big board was Jason Day at number one, who is also T58 currently. Bo Hoss of T69. If we were so early in this, we got a split T start off of two different golf courses. We're so early in this thing. Thank you, TC.

I would say something else that I noticed out there was just standing on near eight green and watching both the pros, but especially the amateurs hitting that second shot into 8. That's a thrilling thing to see, like a 12 handicap who might be on TV or who might be fighting their swing a little bit, have to hit a 190-yard shot and hit you know, balls in the air for a long time. And fans hanging around. It's a lot of, a lot of potential energy there. I got one. I want to test out and you guys have been, I may workshop it a little bit with Randy yesterday, but I I'm ready to kind of put this in as maybe an operating principle

for, for, for the beluga. Or they're kind of going to fill up the line of delineation between old and young. Yeah. And I think it is how you put your tea in the ground. And this event is a really good judge of that when you have the pros and the amateurs. You know, the pros are, they're kind of down on one foot leaning on the driver, real, real swaggy. And then, you know, is this going to happen to me? Well, it's starting to, I think that's why we're noticing.

As you get older, if you're kind of down between, if you have your two feet straddling where you're going down, putting great down right here, it's like, Hey, and that's, I think that's a pretty black and white line. It was tough. Powell putting his tea in the ground. It's a long way to go. Yeah. And a long way up, you know, I want to give you credit. I always feel like you have a pretty smooth move getting the T in the ground. You've got a lot longer to get down there than I do. Yeah. Well, I hope to for years to come. One other observation I had, I was looking through kind of the bios or the quick one-liners of who's who out there. Eric Church was playing the same group as Powell. Country Music Sensation. Country Music Sensation. If you want to tease that. Yeah. I'm going to be a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a

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Sam Stevens. Doesn't he sound like a little folk? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like Davis Thompson, Eric has that a little bit. Maybe, maybe there. I just can't get the visual Doesn't look like a super all right now, you're right Uh guys, let's let's take just a quick kind of breather tc You know, we were gonna roll this in earlier, but let's get to it now You and cody and ben and our guy wolfie were down in argentina Recently and we wanted to use this opportunity got a couple people watching the live show

Just to sprinkle in a little taste of what they're gonna see when that film project eventually comes out, but set it up for us a little bit. Yeah, we went down to Argentina mid-January a couple of weeks ago, just warm spot in the winter, never been down to South America before and interesting golf down there. I think we were, kind of went in with not many expectations

of what to expect and came away blown away by we went to three different parts of the country went up near up near Cordoba put a couple courses up there and then we went to Mardel Plaza, which is like if I had to describe it would be North Baric in the middle of like the French Riviera or Fort Lauderdale. If that's something you'd be interested in. And then lastly, we played jockey club and stopped by the Latin American amateur championship and all that. So we did got deep into the grilling scene and everything as well.

The asado scene. It was a spectacular trip and I cannot wait to go back. I know Neil's been to Argentina before. Not for golf. Wolfie. I think Wolfie deserves it. Yeah, Wolfie. We started calling him El Lobito. El Lobo is the wolf and Lobito, like, you know, Ito is the little wolf. So, we started calling him El Lobito. And El Lobito lost one of his fangs while he was out there. and I can't emphasize enough how good the shower the water pressure wasn't the showers down there. I think I think his tooth just got blown up.

All right, well, Cody, let's roll some of the visuals here. This is what people can expect to see maybe in the next next couple months here. I'm at the bench right in the middle of the showers. When you see this when you're on a golf trip you know you're about to play a really good of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a

little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a I'm gonna be a good boy. This is as cool as anything I've played in Scotland. I'm gonna be a good boy. Well, there you go. It looks like some unbelievable scenes that you guys got down there. I cannot wait to roll that out.

I think we're going to do maybe going to do our travel stuff a little different this year. Watch this space. I know people love hearing that. Watch this space this year. What moment of the trip was it where I had the poop on my hand back home and you're like, oh, Sully, you love this course. That was after we were at the Jockey Club. The red course of the Jockey Club. And I said, Sully, you love flat golf courses. And to see what Alistair McKenzie did with a flat piece of land to make this place super dynamic and really, really fascinating green complexes and sort of in right up your alley. And so I was like, thank you for that.

I'll be shooting it down there sometime in the next two decades. We brought Sully back in. The czar's out working on his business principles. He's going to have a list of 10 that he can go through with us later maybe. But Sully, where where you want to take us What do you got on your I had this prepared for yesterday? I know the tournaments already started maybe some of these guys are up on top of the board But we had a very full very full show yesterday

They I might not be able to sneak some of these by once we did through the went through the belugas big board It's a little hard to sneak some of these by you But I have five players that are quietly playing better golf than you might think and maybe not you but Quietly, so they're not live players. No, they're not playing loud. That is such, that is the loudest golf. And what's the timeframe here? How like just at the moment? Could be different for every player.

Have been doing it a while. Why don't we start and you decide what you think here. This player, he's currently 19th in the data golf rankings. He has three runner-up finishes on the PGA Tour dating back to last July. Bear with me for the stat part. He has a 50-round moving average of plus 1.7. I know that means nothing to you, but that essentially means he's been as good

as Hideki's actual skill over the last several months. He's hitting 340s, getting on base at kind of a 430. He is the third best American over the last six months. I know who this is. Who am I? I know who this is. I'll give you a chance. This is kind of over the silly season.

A little bit. Late summer, he played really nice. Scottie's still the best American over the last six months. So hell of a potter. Boss of the Moss. Akshay. He joined the live show yesterday. He did an audit of the Big Blue.

Grazerman. I don't think he's been doing it quietly because I've been shouting it from the lip. You didn't recognize the name. I posted this on our Instagram story yesterday. Quietly, that was disqualifying. That's okay. That's spooked easy.

Please try to be more clear. The next guy, he is eighth in the data golf rankings after falling to 73rd in the middle of 2023. He's finished in the data golf rankings after falling to 73rd in the middle of 2023 is finished in the top three in Three of his last four starts and he is the fourth ranked American player in the world again. That's the real rankings So you know what? I think I know this one, too This is HG I don't think it's a G. I think it's a guy who's playing really nice today. Maybe think you're right Is that right? Yeah a TGL superstar I don't think it's HG. I think it's a guy who's playing really nice today. Maybe. I think you're right. Is that right?

Yeah. A TGL superstar. YTK? Not YTK, I don't believe. It's an American player. Place for ABs, Atlanta Drive. Is that right? I'm on a roll.

William Ho? Guess again. PC. One more time. PC. I love you when you say Kis name. He's also not that. Just look at the lovers. The other Justin Thomas, eighth ranked player in the day. Duck golf rings. 73rd. That's a little rise back. How's he playing today? He has, uh,

look, he is, he's minus four minus four. That's fine. That's no joke. Just made a bogey on five. Guys, I'm gonna be honest, my notes are incomplete on this. I didn't design this originally as a quiz. This one's gonna be our seven top tens dating back to last June. That's the only note I have for this guy. So that makes it pretty difficult. Seven top tens dating back to last June.

Of course. Is there anything you can pull off top of your head? He's not American, but he's North American. Ooh, that's interesting. So from maybe a little North of America. Little Cory Connors. Little Cory Connors, the sneaky that's a good thing. I'm not sure if that's a good thing. I'm not sure if that's a good thing. I'm not sure if that's a good thing. I'm not sure if that's a good thing. I'm not sure if that's a good thing. I'm not sure if that's a good thing. I'm not sure if that's a good thing.

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I'm not sure if that's a good thing. I'm not sure if that's a good thing. I'm not sure if that's a good thing. I'm not sure if that's him dating back to last June, but he's quietly played good golf. The fourth guy, his last five results, he has won. He had a T 21 at the tour championship, not great, but otherwise, four champion fifth T 15 T six T 15 20th in the data golf rankings. Also an American player, uh, big, and again, sorry. His last five results win T 21, fifth T 15, T six T 15. That's actually six adults. It's not HG. Oh, the wind is the farthest one away. You guys attended the event that he won. You, I know, I don't remember who exactly.

When I know you, Keegan Bradley, Keegan Bradley, sneaky. That's bad. I should have got that you can Bradley Keegan Bradley. Yeah sneaky. Ha that's bad I should have got that one All right last one his last several results Are do you actually if I if somebody said like you have to bet your money right now? I think he's gonna make the right like he's gonna be in the top six. Yes No, I don't think so. What do you think? I do not think so. There's so many guys that stink American the bottom of that American team's tough I don't know that he's getting to the top six, but I want to cut it So what do you think? I do not think so. There's so many guys that stink American.

The bottom of that American team's tough. I don't know that he's getting into the top six, but I want to kind of, but I want to be with you. I know I've never been with you on this block. Do you see what I want to likely top six? We have Scotty and Xander Xander's healthy. Can't lay more. Cowabunga. JT. We have a JT potentially like the spots get filled up pretty quickly. The automatic ones. I mean, what's allotaurus after that? If he starts playing well, I mean, it's, it drops off pretty quick. Yeah.

JT Poston saw him stuff it today on seven. It's kind of go with the model. So you tell me we're pulling up the rankings here. As we speak, uh, who are we missing? Who are we missing? Who Bryson Bryson's up there on got a little bracing. He won the us open, but the points have a long way to go. I mean, the only thing that's really counting from 2024 is the majors and there's a lot more

events are going to flow in there. So Bryson's probably going to get washed out. He probably will get the cat. He's going to play well at quail. Tc. I'm like, that's, I feel like that six spot is not laugh. It's not laughable by any straw. It's not a laughable thought. It's just like, you're going to have to be, I mean, what if he's number seven in the rankings? What if he's number eight in the rankings? He's the cat. You can decide.

There's a massive drop off from like seven to 10 or something like that. Stupid question. I'm sure a lot of people at home are asking themselves, Is he the guy that won that PGA? No, no, no. But that's, has there ever been a playing captain of the Ryder Cup in our, in our lifetime at least? I have to, I have to look that. I know. I mean, Tiger did it in the, in the Ryder Cup or I'm sorry, in the president's cup, Royal Melbourne.

I think I might be rooting for Keegan. I think Jack, did Jack do it once. He was the captain of the 83 team. I don't know if he played on it as well. I guess I would put the key was maybe the, you know, since no, hasn't been. Yeah, truly has not. Okay. Walter Hagen was the U S captain for the first six Ryder Cups was the playing captain for

the first five. Okay. I think maybe the TV package has gotten bigger. That's the torch, Walter. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Who do you think is the most recent? This is unbelievable.

Not Mr. Nicklaus. I mean, close. Mr. Palmer. Mr. Palmer, 1963. I'm in then. I'm rooting for Keegan. He's the most recent. He's top six.

Ryder Cup players as captains, Walter Hagan, Di Reese, Charles Whitcomb, Sam Snead, Ted Ray, George Duncan, Mr. Hogan, Henry Cotton, Lord Mangrum, Chick Harbert, Jackie Burke Jr., Jerry Barber, and Arnold Palmer. About that list. I would say there's, you think there's more or less guys who have been playing captains of the Ryder Cup or guys who have blown both ACLs out in one play. I would say both ACLs in one play. They're less. And where else are you going to get that information? There have probably been more perfect games than guys that have...

How many people in the history of the world do you think have blown out? Both ACLs. Within a second or two of each other. In sports. Not in like a car crash or skiing. Probably one. I doubt that anybody else has said that. It's truly unbelievable. It'd be less than five You have any information?

Let us know All right last guy Loki he won an event last year on the PGA Tour his last several events t9 t13 t14 t8 T10 t21 has gained strokes on the green and each of his last 15 starts Not one bad putting week up to 29 in the world and each of his last 15 starts. Not one bad putting week, up to 29 in the world in the data golf rankings, but was not exempt for the AT&T, Palo Beach Pro-Am. Who am I? Did you bring this up with John?

Well, he's a topical player. He's been mentioned a number of times in this podcast. A forgotten player. And at the house. Very much a forgotten player. Very much the forgotten man. The forgotten man man officially. Didn't even make the belugas big board. Oh, Harry Hall.

Harry Hall won the Isco last year and his low key just been playing fantastic golf. He was the guy that simply win the isco. Like being at the isco in the first place, you're not winning that week. You're just not losing. That's where… Yeah. And I think when we talk about what gets to some of the PGA Tour stuff, but I think a tournament like the ISCO, they need to be throwing stuff at the wall on ideas.

Like what would this… Shot clock. Like actual shot clocks. Experiment. You know, like do like make those like the like the proving ground for the dumbest ideas out there. There was some talk some of that. Well, I know we'll talk a little bit about the kind of a media roundtable.

The few officials. We need to get to some of it now. Yeah, they did. The topic of pace of play was a big topic of conversation, but what was mentioned there was the possibility of maybe at the Zurich or maybe at some of these opposite field events, the possibility of adding or testing distance measuring devices on the PGA tour. I'm curious if you guys have any reaction to that news. It's going to slow it down.

I do not think it's solved any problem. Why do you say that? Because guys want front edge yardage. They want back edge yardage. They want bunker yardage or cover yardage. I think it's a way to validate things, but they're still going to go back to their book and trust their numbers. I think there should be some guys that, Hey, we're going to take away your yardage book. If you were bottom five speed on tour, you don't get to bring a yardage. Can I come up

with float to you guys? Sick opposite field event. No yardages, no yardage books, no yard. True eye test tournament. I don't think it's gonna speed up. Golf used to be played, yeah, that's true. And a shot clock. And a shot clock. I don't wanna build this up too much, but I think this is the best idea I've had in years. We were talking about, you know, trying to,

maybe decades, trying to smash, trying to smash a bunch of stuff together. You know, we've got the round table media availability. They're talking, everybody's talking about pace of play. We got JT putting out his letter about, you know, players need to do more. We've got the TV networks saying what, you know, we can only do what we can do.

We've got the fans saying everything they're fan. Here's what I think we should do. They clearly have a list of the slowest, fastest to slowest players on tour. You know, Stephen and Gary were talking about that on the podcast yesterday, right? Whoever's in that bottom five, you're getting miked up straight up. It's objective. You don't have a choice. You are getting miked up if you're the five slowest players. And we're going to use this for ancillary content. We're going to use it as like, we're seeing what's

taken so damn long. They could call it the, the grant Thornton bottom fire, you know snail five the S cargo fire. And what I think is tough about this snail mail get the USP or maybe the USPS, you know, they need some shine these days. I feel like I'm saying well sure maybe but the because the way it kind of works now just for those that don't know is like and I'm not blaming CBS. We can even ask Trevor about this when he comes in in a little bit. But like, when we have these fan enhancements and like, can you please wear a mic? Can we please do a walk and talk? Like, there's no structure for that. There's no, again, independent contractors. You've heard the whole thing. There's no owner being like, we've signed a deal. This is what's required of you today. You got to do this, this and this. Everything is pretty much out of the goodness of like the player's heart of them saying yes. So it's a lot of somebody at CBS,

somebody at the tour kind of walking up and like, please, please, Mr. JT, can you please wear the mic today? And to their credit, like in B's Amy, please. And so like to their credit, whenever any player says yes, like they so do not have to. This makes it objective.

Straight up man, if you're bottom five on this list, here's your microphone, you're wearing a mic, it's part of what you signed up for in your media regulations. And we will be trying to cancel you. And if you're not, you know, if you're not down with this, I really would suggest playing faster

if you don't wanna do this. I love it. Who says no? Who says no? Who says no? The slowest player. Patrick Cantlay. Well, sure. I mean, but he might have the votes, you know?

We just need to get the board on board with this thing. So we're here in the AT&T house. There's probably gonna be board members walking around. I might, if you guys could help me seed that. Sprinkle. Yeah, float some of that in a natural conversation. With board members on the course. I think that'd be really good.

Ed Herlihy, Mary Meeker, things of that nature. But TC, I'm so in on what you're saying about using the other tours and events as training grounds for some of these things. That's what Major League Baseball has done. Corn Fairy. Yeah, Corn Fairy. And then once the guys get to the PGA Tour, they're used to what's going on and everything. But tell me, going back to the,

the, uh, range finders. They've tested this with range finders on the corn fair tour. They've done it on the corn fairy tour years back. And Tyler Dennis spoke on this as well. This past week. Excuse me. He said, uh, like what has changed in that time period. It's also just like the availability of, of Shotlink and how that has evolved, how they do that. And for those that don't know, like how we talked a lot about it a little bit with Stephen Cox and Gary Young yesterday on the pod, but learning that Marques Brownlee

did an awesome YouTube video, like diving into the technology behind the PTA tour. And I was like, kind of embarrassed that I've been doing this job for 10 years and didn't understand the details of how ShotLink works. But how it all, all the connection that, I've always been like all volunteers run shot length like there's no way that could be accurate, but how it works is

It has its tied to sports betting feeds and all this stuff is as a player is hitting a shot There's like a hold button that I said a person essentially presses to say the start of the shot And then that that takes bets off the table for that player that's about to hit and that is what's signal orbit how fast? for that player that's about to hit and that is what signals how fast players are playing. So like it is very accurate data and there's special circumstances with individual shots and rulings and all that that weighs in. But Michael Kim posted his average shot time. I would encourage more players to post your average shot time. I'm guessing we're only going to see green ones, the ones that are faster than the average of any of the of the tour pros. But you know, there's a lot more technology available to them and they're,

they seem to be somewhat incentivized to start pursuing some of these angles. There's nothing more powerful than just the dude. There's data that shows it's not me. I remember like when we, when we finished the, uh, on our YouTube channel, we did the Wisconsin like top 10 courses in two days thing. And we had to play each round in like an hour and 40 minutes. When we got done with that, the first thing that went through my head was like, like I could, I can send this link to anybody for the rest of my life. She'd be like, dog, it's not me. She's like, I, I can play fast. It is not me. We should, Mike,

kneel up from now on after his performance at the long Island mid end last year. Maybe we'd be the change. Maybe we, we do some shot timing. We say whoever's slowest, man, you're wearing the mics. Can we still try to cancel them too? Of course. And they was unfortunately. God, that's interesting. I think the thing that, you know, again, you guys kind of got into this with your rules discussion yesterday, and I know they got into it with the round table yesterday, but like the uphill battle on a lot of this stuff is the difference between the roundtable yesterday, but like the the uphill battle on a lot of this stuff is the difference between shot time and round time, right? And like those two things being at odds

where it's like, even if the you know, I think Tyler said this, but like, most players on tour, like, yeah, it's about 38 seconds. It's around but I have the course you want to read it. Yeah, so Tyler said we've been tracking the amount of time that players take to hit a shot for many many years and in recent Years we made it part of our policy and the short answer is that the average time that players take to hit a shot Hasn't really changed a lot over the years. I think it's like 38 seconds and as far as round times go That's a bit more complicated because we change golf courses and we have weather there's different rough links all that stuff

There's a lot of availability there The main factor that we know drives is the field size. And that was part of the changes made last fall. The changes that everyone was up in arms about and resisting about cutting down cards and field sizes were like also in response to pace of play. A lot of people not buying that as a reason. So my question was like,

are you buying what the tour is selling in terms of how they're measuring pace of play, shot clocks, all that stuff, and field sizes, how all that relates. It doesn't, no, it doesn't leave me convinced. Let me just say, there's another reason to go watch Jay play nine holes. Which is like, no, just kind of like,

is he practicing what he's preaching? It starts at the top, you know, how's his pace of play? I don't know, I think you gotta start start somewhere. Right. Even if like, even if they're like, I think, you know, it's, you got to have a multi-pronged approach. It's got to come down to less rulings. It's got to come down to, you know, course setup, other stuff. But I do think you have to start somewhere. And just because like, if somebody's waiting more, cool. That's like, that's one more guy that's playing fast. so that if there isn't a car crash, basically, it's going to be faster. Guys can play fast when they want to. You see it when they're chasing

daylight at 5 PM on a fall series event or an early season event. So I think it's just a matter of like these guys are so, I mean, some guys have to slow themselves down and that shouldn't be the reality. It should be other guys having to speed themselves up. And I think it's where the nuance gets lost and where I know I'm literally sitting between you guys is I fully agree with that. And I also understand that like you can play as fast as you want, but if there's nowhere to go, then that's where it gets tough. And that's where I'm with you. It's, but if there's nowhere to go, then that's where it gets tough. And that's where I'm with you. It's like, if there was one big, I don't understand how there's nowhere to go. I mean,

I think field sizes again, but if everybody's going or car fives and all that, I think it's more hard fives guys got to wait on every par five. Cause they're all reachable because equipment goes really far. The, you know, waiting for rulings like TC saying, like, I think there's a lot of elements that go into that. There's some low-hanging fruit that they can chop off. But I think just from a competitive standpoint, I think if you're taking longer than 90 seconds to hit a shot, like that is cheating. That is

flouting the rules and that is an unfair advantage. And I think that's where I don't care if you're waiting on the next shot. You still got to hit this shot in under 60 seconds. I don't care if you're not out of position. To your point, Randy, it is like, and Gary and Stephen talked about this yesterday too, about like building in when they have the daylight opportunities to do it, building in gaps in tee times, how much that can actually help them keep the flow of around going. Because again, how it's set up, 11 minutes apart in threesomes, one ruling anywhere on the course

screws them for the entire day. And it's inevitable. It always happens. There's literally no wiggle room. But there's a little later in the year, 70 players, everybody off in twosomes building some gaps in there. Did they fly? They go in like four hours, 10 minutes. That's not flying, but it broke off when greens are fast, rough is up and 7,500 yards and $20 million on the line. Like that's relatively reasonable. I mean, we're, I would just equate it to some of the discussions, three pitch clock and baseball, like that's, that's my, I guess the, the reference point in my mind that's, stands

out. And I feel like there were some of this discussion, yeah, what's it really gonna do? You know, what? And it's like, on like, at least try it, at least try it in Oppo events or on the corn fairy, gather the data, truly show us what it is. And it's like, and if it's minimal with the shot clock, then great, then then I'll buy into more of what you're selling me. But I wonder if they have done that with the shot clock masters and

DP World Tour. I'm sure they have done that with the shot clock masters and DP world tour. I'm sure they've at least gotten info from that. I just can't imagine. Strategic alliance. Remember the golf sixes? Even if you're a fan out here watching and you at least have, I mean, I imagine this is where it gets tricky with the logistics, but if you had a cart with a clock on it where fans could like at least watch, It at least gives some intrigue,

but like the dirty little secret being out of these tournaments, there's a ton of dead time. And you walk around and you see everybody's just looking down at their phone. Like how can you direct more of that attention to like what's going on? And I feel like a shot clock would help that. At least there's like, oh God, is he gonna get it off?

Is he not? It just feels like a no brainer to try. Tiger getting that shot clock violation of TGL might've set this whole conversation back years, you know, they're going to be so gun shy to try to do the dirty secret is tiger's been not fast. I think people have been willing to look the other way on that one. I think their answer to that, Randy, and I agree with, it's like one ball in play with a baseball game is different than

the balls and play at once. Like it just is, there's just other variables. Like the baseball, you can go cause you're not to wait for something else to clear. You know, that's why the pitch clock makes a lot of sense. I guess my response to them would be like, all right, great. Keep on doing what you're doing. Doesn't look like the trend lines are great. Won't argue there. I wanted to, uh, roll it back in honor of the weather channel back in the day when they did local on the eight local 11th.

Take a look at the leaderboard to 11. It's two 13 now, but I'd like to do leaderboard on the 11th. Yeah, I think that's great. I can report happily happily. Justin Rose started on the back nine birdied his last hole number nine to tie the lead seven under with cam Davis and Jake Knapp Justin Rose had the same odds as Doug Gim Really?

That's right I can also report Doug Gim is now one over through 16 T71 There's so much golf From the desk of Neil Schuster and on behalf of the Ballou guy would like to issue maybe a Mea Culpa Anyone who threw those five dollar nuggies on Doug Gim yesterday He was at Spyglass though too. Anyone who threw those $5 nuggies on Doug Gim yesterday. He was at Spyglass though too. He could easily, easily go out and shoot 62 more. Another guy that was at the Spyglass today is Rory McElroy, who got it in the house with a 66, six under. He is T4 by far the highest guy.

Well, no, actually tied with Russell Henley, who's also six under right now at Spyglass. But those are the guys that are, the only guys that are up there from Spyglass. Everybody else is kind of out at Peblix. Scotty shot 67 out of Spyglass. Austin Eckroot, who Neil went out of his way to diminish, got 67 out of Spyglass. What do you say, but downgrade? My guy Taylor Pendreth got 67 out of Spyglass. We heard him hit the clunky. Cody, did you hear how clunky that was in 18? He's an imposter. He's a ball speed imposter. That you could hear from. JT, is it Spyglass? He's currently five under. Could, could get it to six.

People don't realize he's number eight in data golf. Big shot Bob McIntyre. Minus five. Sep, the man cave. Sep the man cave. Sep's got a lot of holes left too. It's only 13. Sep rules. Who was on the pod?

Was that last week? I was trying to really whip the people up about Sep and just kind of move him into that. Get some going. That might be a personal project, moving him up into an upper echelon of tour players. I don't think he's- I flipped it back on you.

You weren't willing to put him above a lot of the names I mentioned. No, I was, but some of them I just were, I didn't want to ruin your guys' night. Dude, it's because people- Were you on that pod? You were on that pod you were yeah, no, and he saw hither step Who are you taking right now in your foxhole? Oh, you need to go out and hunt trophies. Who are you taking? That right? Yeah So bad me that's hundo. Thank you. Oh, you know people

Harder you hear my question is thankanky, about the weather apps? Yeah. He was a big, what did he say? He's weather underground. Weather underground. It's a weather channel. And he probably has all kinds of proprietary models. Yeah, I need him on Winnie Pro.

I'll talk to him. Victor, playing well. 5-under through 13. Victor, 5-under through 13. It's 2018 Am Champ here. That's right. Grazerman tried to warn Neil of that. Did not see that coming. He said, quote, my game's not in a good place in this presser.

Was that yesterday or two days ago? So yeah, he tends to throw people off from time to time. HE68 Pebble, MAV68 at Spyglass. Matthew Pavon, The American Dream. 68 for him over at Spyglass. Just a quick bread drop for the loyal listeners. It's stupid. They had a headline on Fijiator.com like a week ago about how Matthew Pavon is the American Dream. That was just the headline. It was Matthew Pavon represents the American Dream.

I was like, all right, we'll close the book. I guess we don't need to see the brutalist. I guess we can close the case on that one. Tom Kim, 300 at Spyglass. You know, Colin had it going earlier. Just pretend I didn't say that, I guess. Yeah. Colin did have it going earlier.

What happened? Oh, back to back to back. Bokeys. Yeah, three, four, and five. I drew it, Tom Mamski on the front nine there. Got down to the ocean holes and kind of just spit the bit. So, what else? Mav? Mav playing nice? Anything else from Pebble this morning? I feel like we kind of breezed past your guys' experience out there. Randy, I know you're not out here every week, I wouldn't say,

following the PJ Tour. Anything else? We're going to speak to that in a little bit here because we're going to roll kind of our video from yesterday. But else that's kind of, we're going to speak to that in a little bit here cause we're going to roll kind of our video from yesterday, but anything else sticking to you, just kind of being back boosts on the ground, uh, out, out here in the PJ tour event. It's, it's nice to be back. I think this is a unique event to get to in that what you guys were talking about Spyglass,

just having the opportunity to see best players in the world up close without crowds and kind of say the same thing at Pebble today. It was, you know, you could get any sight line you wanted. TC and I were talking a little choke points, you know, you got a choke point between kind of four green, five, six makes it a little tough. But no, honestly, just nice to be back out. I'm always blown away by the big tone has a lot of supporters. Tons of supporters. People were yelling Congrats on the new

edition. A lot of kids, a lot of supporters. A lot of them are manmade. Kind of got it. Yeah, he's kind of got it. All supporters are manmade. So they're tone made. We saw one of the funnier scenes, Mac, Max had missed left on six and he went up further up the hillside to kind of get a better view with his caddy and talk about the number. There appeared to be just some guy that like entered the

conversation with standing next to him. Like a fan kind of talking with him. Like, oh, I would encourage all all fans to make it about you, man. You guys made it on TV for that. I don't know if you knew that, but we were. Yeah. We saw you up there. There's a massive, massive five G tower that they built kind of between six, eight and 14 there. Yeah. Service was flying. Yeah. Connecting changes everything.

I think I might talk to John about this off camera, but one, you know, if he's interested in any ideas for improvement, I would think about maybe a ferry service from the point up at six, seven, eight, back over to like 17 green. It would be conditioned. Media only, you know, keep the casuals off. Maybe just some paddle boards, yeah, across the code. I've always thought that, you know, if the conditions are right and I'm sure there's 15, 20 people in this field that have large yachts, like really large yachts, park it out there and just Tinder in, you know, just rowing, you know, get up in a dinghy in, but yeah, well, you know, get up in. I'm trying to dingy in, but yeah.

Well, you know what? All of this feels like a very appropriate introduction to our video for today, which is gonna be, Randy, we got a chance to just get out and walk around. We don't get a lot of free afternoons, candidly. No, truthfully. There's a lot of people who are just like, how many times you playing golf?

It's a lot of meetings, a lot of, you know, the prep that goes into this podcast, as you can hear. I mean, you just wouldn't believe it. So, but we did get a free afternoon yesterday, which is, you know, as you've kind of said in the past, always a good opportunity to just get out and explore, kick the tires, you know, let's just kind of go, go turn over Pebble Beach and like see what we can find. So we had a chance to do that. Me, Neil and Randy, maybe, you know, maybe some other guests kind of, kind of rolled through. Yeah.'t know who you're going to be out there. Yeah, Cody, you want to go ahead and roll that footage and we'll see you guys on the other side,

maybe with another guest. Hopefully. He's not here yet. Welcome back to the channel. They told us we'd kill some time. Here, sorry, start over. I'm struggling with the focus. What do you want me to do? We have a free afternoon and when that happens DJ's like, hey why don't you two morons go do something adjacent. So we're just going to literally walk around Pebble Beach and see what happens. Alright, any experience with the course? We're just gonna literally walk around Pebble Beach and see what happens. Come on. Come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Come on, come on, come on. All right, any experience with the course? Well, I mean, I set me up. Really? I set me up, I set me up back home, and went to thank him for that. Monday I played to field 18, and it was nowhere like it in the world.

Dream of playing Cyprus, but. Yeah. One day. Well, Neil's got some connections. Don't do that. Don't do that. You have it. Big shot, but a man. So the big board was pretty accurate. One, he hasn't slept much, jet lag is an issue. We knew that. Two, no course experiments. Okay. I'd say he's more of a mutter than issue. For sure. Thinking that I'm allowed to mutter. Neil, let me ask you this.

You got any experience in the tap room? Yeah, a little bit brief. TA3 had lunch with him in there long, long ago. Neil got kicked out of the tap room once. That's not true. Too drunk. No. Went in the tap room last year.

I went to bars too. Yes. Ray, shut the f**k up. I believe he asked me the question, not you. I don't mind the kind of ease your way into the round. It's not the most picture ass part, but it's like hey, we're

beginning the journey. You know? I will say this. I do think it's a bit unbecoming to have the condos right off the first. They look like timeshare condos. Yeah. And I would know, I'm an owner. We stopped here at the Porta Potties

and Neil was like, don't leave me. With Sims back, we were, I think it was on the Strap South Carolina trip, wasn't it? I think so. The bachelor party one. And we pulled into this gas station in Nowhere, South Carolina Carolina and Neil had to run in He left his phone

He had his wallet on him, but he left his phone and DJ and I started a thought exercise You know if we just totally left Neil like What would he do to get home? Could he get home? What would he do? We told him he got back in the car and we told him and he got so mad. It's not even f**king funny. It's not. It was such a dick movie. Alright, changing the subject. This is one of my favorite spots on the property. With the top of Three Fairway. You're kind of ocean, you know, adjacent. This is just like gorgeous. It's gorgeous.

I don't know, I feel like some of these guys could be as bail though. Like even Max was saying to us this morning, like, yeah, my data guys tell me you either hit two iron or you can always floor drive a ride at the grandstands. Like, okay, that's tough. Neil, look up the sidewalk. Yeah. You know, Palgasol, just playing in the dam. That's it. Yeah, that's tough. Neil, look up the sidewalk. Yeah. You know, Pau Gasol, just playing in the damn...

Yeah, isn't it? Yeah, that's it. Be cool as it comes, bye. Hey, pal. Hey, you guys the YouTube guys. Yeah, well we saw you at the Solheim Cup. We saw you at the Solheim Cup last, uh, couple years ago. Yeah, couple years ago.

You were hanging with the king. How have you gotten so into golf? I don't think I was in Spain. I think I was... I know, that's weird, but he saw you. I mean, he you definitely saw. Ask him some Lakers questions. Yeah, Lakers. Oh yeah, me and my friend Kobe, we won a couple titles. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. I remember he ran through your chest. I'm taller than you think, but you're just standing on higher ground. Of course. You're on higher ground. Of course. Well, I picked, no, I picked out.

Now I have to go. This actually always wanted to stand in like this corner. This is cool. I mean, undeniably fabulous. These seals. Randy, talk to me about your time playing this hole. Oh, this was my 79th, third to last hole. And wind was blowing straight into us. He gave me a bad club here.

Did he give you like six iron? I hit six iron. Pretty good six iron. I mean, splashed into the wind of the Pacific Ocean. I was like, oh damn, I hit that one. It was a six iron. From one of six? Yeah. And you made no pars that day. No pars. It's incredible. Yeah. I'd like to see one of the pros do that.

Soly, what'd you hit here during the tournament? I think I hit a little gap wedge. That's not Soly, it's a palgal soly. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, you ever played this one? Which year? I've played it so many times. I can't believe I played this tournament. It does not, it's only two years ago, it just does not like make sense. Didn't they change the format right after you played? Yes. I played like whoa, it's gotta, it's gotta, I mean, truly I played this tournament

with Bill Murray. That's kinda what he peaked and then all his kids started laughing. Oh, we literally took a picture right there with the little onesie announcing that we were pregnant and it was just it, it was gone, it's gone. What's up man? How we how you doing good how you doing i'm randy from really what's up how are you what's up i can see you man

randy's that's in the pacific if you guys weren't questioning my club's questions so much i would have just that might've been adrenaline. You know what I've noticed a big, big, big lack of, Randy? Benches. Yeah. I haven't seen one bench. I think pace of play, man. They gotta keep these toys moving.

Can't have anywhere for you to sit down. Hate that. Ha! Ha! Ha! Keep going! Yep. What else should we do?

We're going all the way to the tip of the property. We want to go to the beach. We're doing it. Have you ever been down on the dog beach? No. I haven't either. Well, what's awesome about this would be, well, I don't know what their leash laws are, but you see a lot of dogs off leash, but you're kind of self-containing them,

you know, with the rocks and the- They play with them. Yeah, exactly. So you just kind of walk and they'll go do their thing and then they run and catch up with you. This would be a great morning, evening walk. You kind of hit me, but like, think about this roping is on every single hole. Not only every hole, but you got it back here on the edge of the property.

Come with me. Like somebody has to physically like wrap it, you know, like that's like hand, like it's just a, it's a lot of work. It's handcrafted. You know, I don't think people are like, just to set up for a tournament, to just even put this stuff in the ground is like, that's to rope the whole core.

I know you got a bunch of people doing it, but it's not just like, oh, put stakes in the ground. It's like, no, someone's gotta come through and wrap it. And then it would be a nice job. It's all pretty level. Like, I just think that I appreciate that. You guys a union job? I do.

I do like local 415, came down from San Francisco, got involved. The pole drivers. The pole drivers, the rope layers. Got arrived at the teamsters, came on down. The rope layers. I think it's a course, yeah, it's a course that conjures a lot of fun discussions.

Yeah. You know, the surroundings, the course itself, what you could do or not do with some of the holes. You know, Wednesday before one of the bigger tournaments of the year. A tour. Just out here walking around. That's kind of cool. The island is out there.

The sun's about to pop. We're about to get a little mega light. I feel like someone's going to jump out of here and stop us. I feel that way every day of our lives. I felt that way since 2014. You can't do that. Who the f*** are you guys? I thought the security guard out there on a 10 was going to be like, absolutely not.

Earnest of earnest pegs. Not only is this one sweet, but good centerline trees, I think, are awesome. I think it's part of what makes golf such a unique, fun thing. Imagine just something in the middle of a basketball arena. I could not co-sign that opinion more. Hell yes. I love it.

I really do. Pebble Beach great place to Look at the houses discuss the golf course catch a little sunshine. I think what sticks with me most we were talking about this earlier What like what do you think what's your overriding thought at Pebble Beach and for me? It's truly just like It's a wonderful walk. It is a majestic walk and almost a hike in some spots. Yeah, which is good. You want to little push me a little bit.

Glad I got to do with you as always. Should we go, should we go head in? Who got a bowl of soup, huh? Well, there you have it guys. I don't know who can get you closer to the Pebble Beach that we all know and love than Neil and Randy. Thank you for that. And we'd love to welcome the Beluga back in for some breaking news just across the wire as you may remember, you know, if you listen to our winners draft, if you listen to the show yesterday, your

boy was quite high on Shane Lowry who just happened to make an ace on the seventh hole at Pebble Beach, which vaults him up to six under one off the lead. Neil, your response as you just dogged him in that video that we saw as you dogged him on the Beluga's big board. Said he's not a mutter. Weather's good. Weather's good. Okay. Beluga had fine. It's not had worse weather in the forecast. Listen, the boards are looking great. I mean team Rose I had him pretty high at the board Jake Knapp not good Lee Hodges, but can't lay minus six I mean Rory putting a 66 out there is tough for the Beluga as well But it's early and super country music sensation Eric Cole and and Jake Knapp is it's tough

I think maybe what you're saying, Neil, is that even the Beluga's Big Board, nothing is guaranteed. Nothing. This early in the season, as we heard from Max Grazerman, nobody knows anything. Nothing is guaranteed except AT&T has a new guarantee because most things in life are not guaranteed, like actually getting the rental car you requested, having your wedding turn out the way that you would, getting the last cup of coffee. You've heard me talk about this throughout these live shows. In a world where nothing is guaranteed, AT&T is bringing something new to the table, and AT&T is introducing a guarantee with connectivity you depend on, deals you want, and service

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But back for the Beluga and his big board can go to GTFO at the Lang that's a, that's actually the URL for the trap draw. The ball knows listener line. Yeah. Does that all know as well can go to GTFO. There's a list serve that kind of merges them together. We all see them. It's, you know, so just route everything through that email. Excellent. Uh, TC, why don't you give us a little look at the what's going on the LPGA? Yeah LPGA first first event of the season They are it's the Hilton Grand Vacations turn of champions down in Orlando

I believe it like Nona and a Liam Kim off to a four shot lead shot 65 she's a She's four ahead of Jean Young Co and Patty Tavitannikid. And then Leona McGuire is one behind them at two under. So our young hitter Lauren Coughlin shot even par today and a friend of the program Rose Zhang shot two under today. So Nellie didn't play great. Lydia didn't play great.

You know, knocking some rust off, I think. That's right. Tis the season for that. You know what, speaking of knocking some rust off, we had a guy had his first big broadcast last week with CBS, Trevor Immelman, our guy. Happy to have you, man. Good to see you. Very, very, very belated. Happy New Year. How about that? Yeah. I mean, is there like a limit on when you have to stop saying happy new year? I think so. They made a whole Curb Your Enthus enthusiasm about it, but well, it's more like new year. You know, it was your guys were back.

PBS was back last week. It's the year of the snake. I think Chinese new year is coming up. It is. Yeah. So there you have it. I didn't think I'd learn anything coming here with you guys, but I just did in the first five seconds.

Yeah. Great to be with you guys. What a week. What a place. I mean, it's just awesome. Uh, sum up why it's what a week, what a place. What do you love about this spot? What's what's kind of maybe it's the favorite hole favorite memory. Where would you like to take that? There's so many layers to it. Yeah historic venue iconic venues been so many great things that have happened here over the years and

You know for me personally I always enjoyed playing this event because of the people you get to meet and hang out with and learn about and learn from. And, um, so yeah, just always had a lot of great memories coming here, man. I love it. Who was it? Who was your best pro and partner? I played for a few years with George Lopez.

I'm sure. Yeah. And he actually, him and I are pretty close friends. And for a while he owned a house, actually for many years, owned a house behind the 16th T here at Pebble. And so we would all stay together and just have the week of all weeks. That impact your golf, possibly or negatively. May or may not have. Yeah, I never did play very well here, but we had a great time, man. And I guess that kind of bleeds into my answer from the previous question. I've just had so many awesome experiences. I don't remember a

lot of them. I remember having a great time. Well, it seems like, I mean, talking to some of the guys from a couple years ago, it seems like there is almost a willingness with some players of like, yeah, this week is not my most professional week ever. Like I'm here to have a little bit of fun and actually enjoy it. Is there a little bit of a balancing that in a week like this? Yeah, I would say so. I mean, for the most part, guys like to bring their wives and significant others with them on a week like this, because it is such a majestic place. Uh, restaurants and Carmel. There's just so many good things to do. And then when you're out on these golf courses, whether it be, you know, playing

the tournament at spy or pebble or back when I was playing, we played MPCC and guys go out and we'll, you know, maybe play Cypress point if they lucky enough. So when you're out on the golf course, it's like the Disney world of golf. And then at night you have so many cool places to go. And I think there's something about being a little chilly and you kind of bundled up and fireplace. So many, so many fire pits. You know, that's why I ran into you guys last year, the fire pits out at Spanish Bay. Yeah. Have you ever been lucky enough to play Cypress point? Yeah, have you ever been lucky enough to play Cypress Point? Yesterday was my third time ever. I haven't stopped smiling

And what made it even better was was uh, Jim Nance took me out there And he's a member there. Did you tell you about the shank I hit off his roof? It's tough Really? Yeah, it's bad. It was bad. Well, the good news is he's forgotten that Would you like to tell me all about it? Talking point, but I just wanted to make sure. Not a significant event in his life. Definitely. Let's go back to Cypher. Did the ball end up on the green after you shanked it onto his shirt? No, it was in the playing area. One time it was alive. Still it was alive? Yeah, it was alive. It came down, it didn't get stuck in the gutter. So chip on and chip on in two putts for just a nice solid bogey.

Yeah, move on. That's what it's all about, right? Limit the damage, man. That's pro golf. Yeah, with Cypress point. Wow. So you never get amazed by a golf person? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, for sure. And I was blown away by it. And to be able to be out there with him, and I mean, you guys know, you've spent enough time with him. The knowledge he has, not just of the course, but the history of it, the designing, he was teaching me all about McKenzie and how it came about. And, you know, talking about the first time Jones played there

after he lost in the first round of the US amateur, and he could only get a train back like three days later. And so somebody said to him, well, you should come out and play this cool course Cypress Point. And Jones went out to play and was just in awe. And at that point got in touch with Mackenzie and was like, Hey, I've got a little land down in Georgia. You know, do you think you'd be interested in coming to take a look?

It's a significant delay in your life. Yeah. You know how glad I am that Bobby Jones lost in the first round of the U S M in like 1926, whatever it was, you should send the descendants of whoever beat him, you know, a nice note, but stuff like that to be able to learn that throughout the day, all the little nuances of the place over and above The the shot value and just the feeling of all when you're out there was it was a great day perfect weather What was the what was your favorite hole and what was the most surprising thing about playing out there?

I gotta be honest. I loved them all You know from when you first walk out the pro shop and you take like five steps and you're on the first tee, you're over the road and it's, you know, I still get nervous when I play. I mean, I don't think that's ever, ever going to go away. And, uh, you know, we knew a bunch of people around the tee and obviously everybody's coming out to say hi to Jim and what have you. He hasn't been here in a few months. Everyone heard the pros out there. Come on, the pros out here.

Come see him. Uh, it has been pro, but yeah. So the whole, the whole thing, the, the, the dunes, the way you kind of play toward and away from the dune all the time to me was, you know, it's spectacular how so long ago, 100 years that you could design a golf course that can stand the test of time for so long. It's like genius level stuff. I saw you post a post a highlight from as narrated by Jim on 15. How close was that to going in?

It landed about eight inches from the hole. It it was a gap wedge. So it had a ton of spin on it ripped like 15 feet away. But we thought it had flown in for a little while because it just made a huge pitch mark right on the side of the hole. It was a good chuckle. When we walked up there, you know, he kind of put his arm around me as you come around the corner and he's like, okay, this is it. This is it right here. And he was like, give me your phone. I thought he was just going to take a photo or something. Next thing I heard him talking and a pretty funny video when I watched it back.

When you were playing during your peak playing career, did you not play a lot of recreational golf while you were out at a tournament? Like, you know, go over on a Monday and play a local course that you'd always wanted to play. Yeah, I was so serious when I competed. I kind of had to be to be able to get the best out of myself. I was one of those guys who would really crawl into a bubble and have tunnel vision. And so I was so super focused on what I was trying to do that week and what I felt like I had to work on that I never really gave myself any opportunities to do anything like that and play a bunch of social golf. So really I've only played the

courses that the tour goes to, whether it be the DP World Tour or the PGA tour. And so, you know, that's why I haven't played Cypress yesterday. I haven't played Pine Valley. Making up for lost time. Yeah. Yeah. I, there's, there's a few places I want to get to, but you might be in like the, the upper right quadrant, like the best position. Like you haven't played any of those places, but you know, you know the right people to have access to all that. You like, you got a lot of good years ahead of you here. Do you get like a fun golfers? Do you get like reciprocal space?

I use this punch card. This is going to get you in. I just get you in most places. Where can you guys get me on that? You know, maybe Brown Deer Park. If you played out there in Milwaukee, I can get you out there. No problem. Yeah.

World talking about Milwaukee, our buddy Brian Anderson tells me all the time how underrated Milwaukee golf. I know. Don't tell don't tell anybody. Yeah, it tells me all the time how underrated Milwaukee golf I know don't tell don't tell anybody. Yeah, we gotta keep it. Sorry. Hey, Cody take that out Take that. Oh, we live are we? Talking about last week. You guys are back with CBS. What was what was the highlights any nerves getting back behind the behind the camera? What was what was last week? Yeah, what's it like working with Jim in Kansas City as well? What does that do especially for an open weekend? Yeah. What's it like working with Jim in Kansas city as well? What does that do? Especially for an open weekend? Yeah, for sure. There's definitely some nerves, uh, mainly, well,

there's, there's many reasons. I love the game. I really do love the game and I feel very fortunate to still have some sort of role in it, uh, to be able to be on TV and, you know, hopefully help people have a good time and maybe learn a little something and enjoy watching the golf, particularly this time of year when the weather can be miserable in places and they turn on the TV and they see beautiful views of the San Diego coastline. And so I, you know, I, that weighs a little bit on me.

I think about that a lot. And then you have just in like a pressure way. Yeah, for sure. You know, you don't want to make mistakes. You want to do the right thing by your bosses and by the hundreds of people in the compound that are working their butts off alongside you. And so there's a, there's a feeling of really wanting to do the right thing there. So you do all the prep and get ready to go. It's been a bunch of months. Windham was the last time I called a golf tournament other than the, the one day in Vegas when we did, uh, Rory and Bryson and those guys. So it was great to get back with Nance. Not there is tough for sure.

What does it, what does it change to let people in the, in the booth a little bit? What's it, what's it like for you? Well, you know, we all lean on him so much. I mean, the guy is, he's the Alistair McKenzie of TV. You know, he's the Tiger Woods. He's the Jack Nicklaus of, of his profession. And so we lean on him a lot. He just really understands things from so many different angles. You know, he's got the 30,000 foot view of how he sees the show playing out, but then he's also working on the little nuances of where we might

be on the golf course in that particular moment, who we're showing, how the course is playing. And so he has such an incredible feel for the broadcast and how to make it entertaining for people. So to have him sitting right next to you, I lean on that a lot, just to be able to play off of him and his timing. Is a lot of it nonverbal? Like are you guys kind of like motioning to each other when he's sitting right there and you're losing all that? For sure. When he's excited, he always gives me an elbow. It's pretty good. And I know that at that point he's really leaned in and into it. But when he's sitting in Kansas City

or last year he was in Baltimore or wherever the AFC championship is, there's about a second delay. And so you've got to be a little more defensive. Last thing I want to do is to be stepping on something that he's saying or, or, um, and he feels the same way about you, I'm sure. Right. So then it's almost doubly. Yeah, that's tough.

So it's a little tricky, but we find our way through it. And, uh, I thought last week was great. It was a good golf tournament. You know, I really enjoyed it. Uh, was watching closely the first few weeks and guys were just making birdies all over the place and taking it deep. It was nice to get to a course to where all of a sudden we saw a different skill level of having to grind it out, you know, making par meant something. And, uh, that was fun.

It was fun to be a part of whether it was nice, a little bit of wind, which makes it interesting. So yeah, I was all in on it. How many, how many different hats are you wearing these days? Right. You know, first thing I think up now is you're a broadcaster. So you walk in the range, you're doing some coaching as well. We have the OWGR thing going on as well.

Social golfer. Yeah. How do you, how are you an influencer? Like you guys big Clemson fan. You have to add anything at this point or kind of what's, what takes up the majority of your time? It's a great question. Um, there's a lot of different things, but at the end of the day, it's all

involved with golf and you know, the game has been such a massive part of my life for so long that it's something that I thoroughly enjoy. I love being plugged into it on a bunch of different levels. Um, the coaching thing is, it's just, it's, you know, Adam Scott has been one of my best friends since we were teenagers. I don't know if a lot of everyone at home knows that you coach Adam Scott. Yeah. I mean, I don't even if a lot of everyone at home knows that you coach Adam Scott. Yeah. I mean, I don't even know if I'd use the word coach.

It's just like, I'm somebody that he trusts to talk to about the game and about what he's feeling and obviously I've played so much golf with him and grown up playing with him and competing against him, so, um, I know what's really worked for him. And I think it's kind of cool that he trusts me enough to be able to bring me into that inner circle. He's a pretty private guy, as you guys know. Cool to be able for you to show people his swing

and be like, this is kind of the only guy I work with. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure I could take full credit for it. We're working on a couple, he's a little flat. We're working on a couple of things, but it's pretty good. We like where it's at. I mean, what a great canvas to work with too as well.

I know talking to the TPI guys, he's the only guy ever to have a perfect physical score, no limitations. Yeah. He's super, super talented and he's had this beautiful move for so many years. I mean, it looked just like this when we were 13, 14 years old. And where did you guys first meet? We were playing an amateur tournament somewhere. It might even been a junior tournament.

I think it was a junior tournament somewhere, an AJGA event or something like that. And we just always kept in touch. You know, Australians and South Africans generally gravitate towards each other when we're not in our home countries. And, I'm not sure he quite gets enough credit for as good as he's been and how long he's been good. I mean, this guy's in his mid forties and he's top 20 in the world and came close to winning the FedEx Cup and the race to Dubai last year, really incredible season for him last year. and he's top 20 in the world and came close to winning the FedEx cup and the race to Dubai last year, really incredible season for him last year. So he's pretty motivated to take another

run at for sure winning, but the ultimate would be for him to bag another major. I think that would be great. You're heading into year three in the CBS tower. How has it gone? For the first two years, how much have you progressed and what do you think you've gotten better at the most over the first two years? What? I'd be more interested to hear from you guys what you think I've gotten better at. You know, I'm probably my own worst critic at times. What does that look like?

Do you do you rewatch on Mondays? Do you rewatch? Fun is it? I do. It's not fun. Stop it. No, DJ. What do you mean?

No, I listened back to the podcast. Oh, God. What are you talking about? I just mean it's not fun. No, I'm sorry. I've been watching yourself and being very critical. Exactly. And you, you kind of always see the warts and you don't give yourself enough credit for some of the things that you may have done well, even though the viewer may not

have noticed it because of you knew what was going on in your ear or something was going wrong and you patched it up nicely. Overall, I just think becoming more comfortable in the role and understanding TV more and more. I started doing it loosely in 2017, 2018 and quite quickly got to this job, which I probably couldn't even have dreamed of at the time for it to happen that fast. And so it's been a real roller coaster ride and a lot of fun. I feel like every day I'm trying to learn something new. But for me, it's always, how know, how can you entertain the viewer, the people that have taken time out of their own day to tune in? It's not always easy. People are

busy. People want to be outdoors. If they've gone ahead and taken the time, how do you entertain them? How do you educate them? Maybe help them with something in their games, explain something to them, explain something about the golf course for someone who's never been to Pebble Beach or Torrey Pines. So my mind is always thinking like how and why. I'm asking myself that question a million times in a broadcast. I thought last week between you, some of the strategy stuff like on 17 when you were talking about various guys, the strategy coming down the stretch, but also you can see it across the team as well. It seems like CBS at large, Dottie specifically last week, being pretty vociferous about pace of play, backstopping and stuff like that. It's really like for me as a viewer, it's really refreshing to see the level of passion and confidence from the team. Well, we have great leaders. I've got to be honest

with you. I mean, you know, starting with David Berson, the chairman of CBS Sports, who is a young guy who loves the game of golf. He's very passionate about sports in general. He understands the game. He understands the goes without saying the ins and outs of TV. He's obviously done massive deals with CBS Sports, with all the different professional leagues throughout the world. And so he has such a great understanding of all these little buckets and aspects of sport in general. And so starting with him, we have great leadership and coming all the way down to Sellers, our lead producer, who is the hardest working guy, you know, in the compound for sure. I mean, this dude is the first guy in and the last guy out.

He's a golf fanatic. He's a great player. And so we are really able to slipstream from that example that they set. And we all just, we don't take for granted the opportunity we have to be able to be at places like this all the great venues we get to go to and Be a part of the CBS team. So it's a lot of fun. Everyone's jacked about it I love it. It just felt like we've come back with Tory It felt like you guys added some stuff to the broadcast without even like talking about it

You know not even you just do it right you just like the drone tracers a little bit better the Spotting of where things are gonna be potentially landing just a little bit a little bit of tweaks Technologically that are just like we're not you know, we're gonna broadcast we're doing them We're just gonna do it you pointed out even just it's just context right like even just that. Here's the tracer You know Harris English is on the 17th T. Here's where his drive was on day one. Here's where his drive was on day two. Here's where his drive was on day three. Let's see where it goes on day four.

It's just a breadcrumb of context. I'm like, oh wow, he's missed. He's missed to the right. He's missed to the left. What's he gonna, you know, how has that impacted? Like it's just little stuff like that that I think gets lost when, you know, this is a whole other three hour conversation.

But when you get into some of the like, make the broadcast better, make the broad and Mike, I think there's little incremental things that just make it more sticky and more, you know, make you more interested in the next shot. Yeah. And and I don't think that's all just like crazy bells and whistles. It seems like there's low hanging fruit that almost needs to be driven by golf fans. Like you're saying because I got a fan is going to come up with those ideas.

Yeah. I give a lot of credit to Sellers on that. He, he's always thinking about it. We have constant meetings, him and I just sitting down, thinking about it, talking through things. Uh, we got a couple new things about sleep for this week actually compared to last year, which, uh, yeah, I'll tell you a couple things but where I've kind of pushed us is I'm a big guy on patterns you know what is a players patterns been it's something that I'm always looking for to try and understand how that could affect his strategy going forward and so to be able to see like in that example, where Harris has driven it,

which club he may have used, did he lay back short of the bunkers? If I've seen him lay back twice, then I'm thinking to myself, wow, maybe he doesn't feel so comfortable with the driver here. Maybe he just hates seeing that Canyon down the left. And it gives me something to be able to talk about. And then somebody at home may enjoy listening to that. So we're always looking for things like that. Uh, this week we've got that awesome crane back there. Yeah. So that's new, never been used before. It's gotta be very, very cold.

I need to find out which camera operators up there. It's gotta be freezing to the point. Yeah. You see, maybe get him a couple of balls of sleep. Maybe we send up some coff of hot chocolate or something. But could you imagine there, first of all, he's going to be able to get the incoming tracer on the tee shot on 14. Oh, awesome. Sellers felt like the tee shot on the par five has never quite got the respect it deserves

because it's a bit blind and it's fallen away. You can't really see the bunkers on the left or the right. You just see those trees and the guy just wax it out there. Nobody really knows, but now you're going to be able to get the tracer coming towards you from that camera, as well as all the views over Carmel beach. Six, seven, eight, nine, 10. That it's going to be able to do a lot of damage.

And then the fly cam at 17 is something we're pretty excited about. Very similar to the one we use at 16 at the Masters. So we just need the weather now. You know, we got unlucky last year, man. We were so excited about signature event, Pebble Beach, AT&T, great partners for the tour for many, many years. And then all of a sudden we had a hurricane come through here on the Sunday. Talking about patterns, you should you should join the bill staff because they

were they had a pattern that running that QB sneak guard. Steve Spagnolo, I know, I know. That's right. He kept going left. I know. I did a good job showing us that that was going happen Yeah, they had a great game goodness Greek gracious. Have you seen the ratings from that game What's I going back to Tory in a few weeks Are you looking forward to that seeing that kind of a separate, you know different?

presentation or a different tournament at the same venue like it, you know, different presentation or a different tournament at the same venue. Like you know, the tour should have to, whether to avoid certain divot patterns or just, just to present new entertainment to the fans, like move up certain tees or use, use different in a whole location. I think it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out. Understandably, they've opened the golf course to play for a few weeks. So that's going to take its toll. I mean, we all

understand it's a municipal golf course. And it's great that fans and general golfers can get out there and play famous course like that that's held majors and PJ tour events forever. So yeah, the Divot, Divot pattern and stuff is gonna be interesting. Also, it's been so dry, you know, they hadn't had rain there since April, meaningful rain. Actually drizzled a little bit when I was leaving on Saturday night.

It was some rain as I was driving to the airport. So it'd be fascinating to watch here over the next couple of weeks, how much rain they could get. One of the things that I enjoyed last week was there was a bit of spice to the greens. Yeah. And so that's what I'm hoping for. You know, I'd like for it to be firm and fast. I think courses always play so much better. It's so much more fun when you see the ball running.

This place is firmer than we've seen in recent years. Yeah, all the players and caddies are talking about how bouncy it is out there, particularly compared to last year. So yeah. And then Tiger's event that adds a little juice, signature event will be fun. Maybe the big cat tees it up, you know, waiting, waiting to see on that. So there's a lot of stuff to look forward to. Last, last one.

We'll get you out of here on this. Is there ever a single day that passes by where you don't think. I want the masters. One single day that's in your life that goes by where you don't think about the masters. That's a good question. I would say somehow every day I'm reminded of it. Uh, you know, whether it be like on

social media or an email that I get or something that I have an opportunity that I get because of it or a flag arrives in the mail for me to sign or something like that. Pretty much every day I get reminded of it. Make that a goal. Don't let a single day of the week go by. Don't remind yourself I won the Masters. Yeah. Look, what are we 16, 17 years removed and at times it's still odd for me to wrap my mind around. So yeah, it's something I'm very thankful for. I mean, I probably wouldn't be sitting

here with you guys right now if I hadn't strung for good days together in Georgia You wouldn't won the Masters have won for Bobby Jones losing it. I know thankfully had a bad day in the first round Sure, thanks for hopping on man. Good to see you. I can't wait to watch the broadcast this weekend and congrats I'm gonna start to another great year. Yeah, I appreciate it. Thanks so much Appreciate what you guys do for the sport and congrats on the start to another great year. Yeah, I appreciate it. Thanks so much. Appreciate what you guys do for the sport. You know, we have so much in common from a standpoint of loving the game. And you know, I'm a fan,

listen to the pods all the time, so thanks. Awesome. Well, thank you. Thank you. Little leaderboard update. We see Russell Henley is in the clubhouse at Spyglass 8 under 64. Little Spice and Russell Henley climbs up.

There you have it. Jake Knapp, we mentioned Justin Rose, we mentioned Cam Davis, we mentioned and Lucas Glover at 7 under and I also can report Victor Hovland out at Pebble Beach. Rasmus Huygard is up to 7 under. And Rasmus Huygard just breaks. Spyglass late breaking across the wire also at Spyglass. So a lot of good golf being played see you like The patent half plan well, too. That's right joining us next

We've got our guy KVV and while he's getting settled just a quick little full circle moment that he reminded me of Earlier today we were a year ago, you know We're standing out there just in between this house and number three green here at Pebble Beach And it was I think it was me Kevin and maybe Neil and we're, we're standing there. And we had just kind of done some stuff with Jordan Spieth. We had done an iron's fitting thing with him, I believe at the same time. And so he he's playing number three green and he looks up towards the house and he kind of like stops and like, he has a really big wave.

And of course, like all three of us are like, holy shit. And we're kind of waving back to him. And we're like, that's crazy, man. Like, you know, focus on the tournament Jordan, like great to see you. You know, and then he puts out and he starts beeline and it up the hill to this house that we're sitting in right now. Turns out he's waving to his son. Who was right behind us. Sammy top five most embarrassing moment.

Trying to like just pretend. It was like Randy and Hilton with that guy, Fran Swann. With Fran Swann. You said Fran Swann. Mickey Barnes. Yeah, just that really brought me a lot of joy, Kevin. Great to see you. Thanks for helping us.

Thanks for letting me be on your program. Of any time. Anytime. What do you got prepared for us today, Kevin? You know, I thought we'd do a little deep dive in miniature. So I have a lot of fun doing these deep dives. So I wanted to kind of just drop in with 10 fun facts that you might not know

about the Crosby Clan Bake slash Pebble Beach Pro-Am. We're going to play a little trivia. Are these in order of best? They're just in order of my entertainment. The last one I think will be a group participation one. The other ones will just be kind of me sharing them.

Okay, let it rip. All right guys, so you probably know that the 1936 was the first ever Crosby Clambake. Bing Crosby, very famous singer, White Christmas, one of the things of that nature. All time, right? Total crooner, absolute crooner. All time, most selling songs in history.

He was sort of compelled to raise some money for pro golfers who were suffering from the Great Depression in the 30s. And right from the jump, The golfers were, they were concerned about money. The golfers needed some handouts. Always concerned about money. The deals were not doing great.

But Bing came to the rescue. Right from the jump, as you may know, the weather was an issue. It rained so much. This was held not here in the Monterey area, but at the Rancho Santa Fe golf course. And it rained so much that a small lake formed in front of the first tee.

And they continued to try to play, but a flock of ducks landed in the lake, which finally convinced everyone it was necessary to suspend play. And when play was called for the day, some of the players, according to sports, illustrated, went back to the lodge and got some shotguns and then went duck hunting. You're going to say a duck got hit by a stray ball from a player suffering

from the depressions. See, this is what we need to be putting back on. They got the ducks and then they ate them. Yeah, that's right. Braiding's are down. You know, let some people with some shotgun, you know, Sam, whatever's out there. He was the eventual winner. Sam Burns with Sam Burns.

Yeah. Oh, it was a combined duck hunting biathlon golf situation. I think that's Sam Bird's would be high on the blue is big board by Sam Snead won that first tournament, took home five hundred dollars for the first place prize. Bing had put up the full purse, which was $3,000, about $70,000 in today's money. I don't know if you know this, but Bing was a stick. He was a two handicap at best.

At his best, he actually qualified for the US AM and the British AM at one point. Whoa. I did not know that. According to his son, Nathaniel, he at one point belonged to, I'm gonna put this out as a guess, how many country clubs do you think Bing belonged to I would say 14 because that's the rule you can't have more than 14 clubs on the back

no he belonged to 75 clubs his son claims he was a dues paying member at almost all of them just a few kind of like you know gift memberships there 75 yeah 75 his son Nathaniel was an even better stick he actually won the USA kind of like, you know, gift memberships there. 75? Yeah. So many. 75. His son, Nathaniel was an even better stick. He actually won the US AM in 1981. I'd heard that.

In a playoff and Olympic. He was the low AM at the US Open in 1982. He was a walk-up captain, right? Nathaniel, yeah, he was a walk-up captain. He played on the European tour for five years. And of course in the Pebble Beach program for many years. Bing really loved golf so much, which we'll get to in a sec, but he really, really wanted to win his own tournament. He only really

came close once. Sounds like a member of NLU. That's exactly right. He recounted the story of Sports Illustrated in 1961. It's a little bit unclear when, what year this was. Newspapers.com's, you know, we've got to dig deep into the AM rankings here. He and Dicky Metz were paired together and they were leading the tournament. And this is Bing's own, Metz and I were right up there on the lead when we reached the 17th green on the last day. Dick's in the bunker and I'm on the green with a six footer for Birdie. If I sink it, we probably win. So I'm standing up the ball and I'm giving it all this fancy business with my putter wagging it back and forth. And the first thing you know is I knock the ball backwards

accidentally three to four feet. Exactly. That's one stroke and naturally, naturally I missed the point coming back and we lost the tournament. Oh, that's so brutal. What a tough way to lose. Devastating. My third one here is Jack Nicklaus actually credits Bing with inventing the idea of the Pro-Am format, which now exists in nearly every golf tournament, basically played professionally all around. So we owe Bing also for another innovation. Can you guess what that is? Shotlink.

Yes. It's a pro trade. FedEx Cup playoff. Close. Tape delay. Tape delay. Yeah, on risk of a war. Yeah. 25. Tape delay.

Bing liked golf so much that after World War II, he heard that the Nazis would record their speeches on something called magnetic tape so they could broadcast speeches to all throughout Germany. And he asked an engineer to track down this technology. When he found the German. What year is it? What year is it?

This was in the, like, in the 40s. So it was post-World War II. How did he track it? Because Bing was a man who knew how to use it. People were trying to track a lot of this. Bing was a man who knew how to get down to Argentina and see what these guys were doing. Bing found the German engineer who held the patent and he put up a bunch of money to start a company, Ampex, which developed recording technology in the United States.

So the reason for this was back in the 40s, all programming had to be live. There was no way to record it, like radio things. So Bing, he had to do his show, which he did like every week, for an East Coast audience, and then he had to do it again for the West Coast audience. And this really annoyed Bing because he wanted to go play golf. Work smarter, not harder.

Exactly. So when this technology was available, he would tape like six shows all at once. And play golf five times. He would spend the rest of the day exactly playing golf. Work smarter, not harder. Exactly. So when this technology was available, he would tape like six shows all at once and then all five, he would spend the rest of the day exactly playing golf. He said, quote, golf had plenty to do with my decision to present recorded shows. The demands of the radio deadlines and inconvenience of being at a studio for rehearsals and shows week after week, week after week were interfering with my golf. My golf is too important to my business performance to be interfered with. That's unbelievable.

All right, KVV, you're delivered on your promise. I was not seeing the black 18 inches of arm side movement. All right. In 1956, again, I really wanted to win this tournament. So he he talked Ben Hogan coming out of retirement to play in the bubble beach program, uh, excuse me, in the, in the crossFit clinic back then. And guess what the very first day they shot a 60 at a Cypress point to take the first round lead. Uh, they hung around until the weather kind of got the best of them.

And then in the cold and the rain Hogan and his body had been sort of beat up for years after the crash. This wouldn't feel like a great. Tough course fit. Climate for Ben. DataGulf did not like his fit here. Hogan shot 81 at Pebble to sort of have them tumble out of the lead.

It had to be 56 putts. Yeah. Kerry Midelhoff. Hogan and the Poha, just not a great combo. Mr. Hogan, no putt. Famous dentist slash golfer, Kerry Midelhoff used the opportunity to stunt all over Hogan and some of his fanboys saying after he had won,

they finally woke up to the fact that there's someone else besides Hogan in this tournament. Hell yeah. Ben is unequivocally the best golfer to ever live. And more so he's a good friend of mine. But for the past six years, they've been making excuses for Ben at every tournament They've tried to make out they tried to take out the fact that his feet hurt or his legs were tired

They said that he wasn't really trying because he was just playing for fun Well, I say Ben should take his lumps just like anyone else There are 160 golfers in this field and they all had to put up with the bad weather on three courses Hogan now has it rougher than the rest had not had to put up with the bad weather on three courses. Hogan now has it rougher than the rest, had not had it rougher than the rest of us. I had the like 1956 equivalent of like hit them up shit talking. I was gonna say the equivalent of I guess my name needs to be Jordan Speed guys. To hit this drop. Trevor's got arthritic feet. That's why he stopped playing. That's wow. Is that right? That's right. Oh, you see, they see a little coffee. You don't have it hard on anybody.

Yeah, exactly. I think I heard about that in, by the way, in 1956, the San Francisco examiner said that stated matter of factly, this will probably be the last year that the Crosby is held in January because of the weather. They're thinking of moving it to October. Obviously did not happen. God, it seems like such a good idea. Guys, this tournament has been plagued by allegations of sandbagging for many years. I guess Crosby is just a man of his word. But it just seems like if you wanted to win that bad, he would just start sandbagging his face. Yeah, Crosby. just a man of his word, but it just seems like if you wanted to win that bad, he would just start sandbagging his face off. Yeah. I mean, I'm not sure when C.B. McDonald died,

but it sounds like he's got some shades of C.B. McDonald. Like, no, I didn't win this year, so we're just going to cancel the event. T.C., do you know what the biggest documented case of sandbagging here though at the Climb Bank? Can you give me a date range? 1995. All right so that's post that's post OJ trial or that's in the midst of the OJ trial because OJ used to play this. Your uncle is not involved in this I will say. I'll go ahead and share but I think it'll take a special pleasure in this. In 1995 Mashi Yamada and Bruce Vaughn won the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. The Mashi Yamada is a Japanese businessman who claimed he was a 15 handicap.

They stormed to victory. It was Bruce Vaughn's first ever sort of victory. It was the Pro-Am portion, of course. But it was later unmasked that Yamada was an actual six handicap, who had lied about his handicap. He was a member of two different clubs in Japan. And the program took this so seriously,

they demanded that he return the trophy and strip them of the title. I think Clint was pissed for sure. And awarded it to David DeVall and Hughes Norton are the official winners. Sandy Tatum, the former USG president who had won the Crosby Co-Lamb in 1961 said, I'm just so glad that Bing wasn't alive to have to deal with.

God, I need to start working those. Sandy Tatum sounded like the man. For real. Just like the realest of the real. What did you say he was? Not on my watch. I said he was a 15 and he was actually a 16. He was 72 years old.

So like playing the uptease. He was playing the uptease. So that's years old so like but playing up to you when he was When I'm seeing the currency manipulation based on what I saw from Larry Fitzgerald a few years back could be that wasn't far off Yeah, also this this brings a whole jumbo Ozaki's world official world golf ranking manipulation into its more 100% agree total new life TC like this the Japanese amateur golf association is that condo loser rice almost just joined the show. She was beeline. We can see if she wants to swing by the insisted that Yamada apologize for dishonoring the event. Yamada refused.

Never apologize. People apologize to me. They were he was banned from clubs competition in Japan. His club was notorious for fudging handicaps like this. He refused to return the trophy. He actually owned a $35 million golf course in England, the welcome golf club, which is attached to the welcome hotel in Stratford on Avon. And during the whole controversy, he was so tired of being criticized for

this. He shut down the entire whole like golf course and kicked out 400 members. We would be using the club. Let me just clear my head. Let me just get out of here so I can think. I need to ask Wolfie about this because no doubt Wolfie is like, give us a whole. I'm surprised you guys haven't heard a pot about this guy. Poor Bruce Vaughn had to return his winning share, which is about $7,000. He never

ended up winning a PGA Tour event. But he's not the only golfer to be accused of sandbagging. Hall of Famer George Brett won the event with Fred Couples in 1987. He played as a 17 handicap, and when they won, he was never invited back. I might explain why Aaron Rodgers... You know, it would be like a total recreation of the pine tar incident if you confronted him. You should have to come back out here and see if he can post this to 17. He made him do it against the Yankees later. So I think Brett kind of got a raw deal a little bit.

So he had been sort of he'd never really he'd been playing for only like five years prior to playing in it. And he says he really took it seriously. Uh, I was tuning up for the tournament in Palm Springs with soon to be partner, Fred couples. And I asked Fred, Hey man, what do you think my handicap should be? And couple said, I don't know about a 17. So that's what I put down. And that's what they gave me. Uh, the same fate, uh, befell Dean Spanos, a son of San Diego chargers,

a former San Diego Chargers owner, Alex Spanos. We did a Chargers. We did do a Chargers, I believe. He carried an 11 handicap, but he improved his pros score by 39 strokes. He was never invited back. So I know we think rounds are long now, but can I tell you about the one round that took six months to complete? In 1998. Yeah, the weather was so bad that they called the event after 36 holes They had played nine on Thursday nine on Friday 18 on Saturday and play could not be held on Monday or Sunday or Monday because of more weather So the PJ tour said it would be completed in August after the PGA Championship.

Bill Mickelson ended up winning six months later, which to this date is the longest PGA Tour event in history. Didn't like 112 guys withdraw or something like that. It's like 40 of them withdraw, not quite. But you know what is special about the 1998 Pebble Beach Pro-Am, Sal? I do not. Tiger Woods missed the cut here

after he shot 76 in round two, declined to return for the Pro-Am portion. Why was that significant? He would not miss another cut for seven years, 142 straight tournaments until the Byron Nelson in 2005. There's also weather lore is also kind of a little bit more here. Jimmy DeMarritt, who died in 1983, he was also part of sort of a little bit more here. Jimmy de Merit, who died in 1983, he was also part of a sort of a part of the weather lore in 1952. It was known as the year of the big blow winds at Cyprus increased to 45 miles an hour in the first round. A high score of 93 was posted and the low score of

the day was 74 de Merit and play, but they continued. They made them play, unlike now with these pampered Fs. I feel like, yeah, I feel like last year could have been big blow 2.0. Absolutely, that was big blow pig. And then the big, and then the blow pig would have gotten blown away.

So in this, excuse me, this, the Jimmy DeMerit and claim partner, Kerry Middelhoff, tried to walk off the course. And the head professional, Peter Hay, who is the namesake that's named after the Hay course named after, told him to get back out there. They said, we can't tee up our ball. And Hay said, show me in the rules book where it says you have to tee up your ball.

Get out there and play. Oh, God, that's so good. Tournament continued. Remember, we used to play no tee Tuesdays. Yeah. I don't think the superintendent liked that, but maybe, you know, I want to play a little trivia. So I, and I talked a little bit about this. I think you guys covered some of this previous things. Uh, who are the players who have won the most, uh, public beach programs slash a Crosby Clembix bill. Phil has won.

He has won five times and Marco Mira Marco Mira has also won five times. Uh, what others though we have a winners of four and three and three. Who else is sort of up there in the rankings? What'd you say? Ted Potter. Yeah. Uh, I believe he's the time Turner to go. That was one. Dustin Johnson has three, I believe. Uh, Dustin Nelson has two, uh, Davis love.

Davis love has a one. Peter Jacobson. Peter Jacobson does not. I'm trying to not to look at the screen. David Duvall? David Duvall does not. All right, so we're gonna start with Sam Snead has four, although one of them was a tie with three other players. And then one of them was a 14 person pro-ag. One of them was a charity day

for the local plumbers and firemen's union. Like, dude, if that stuff's counting, like, Tiger Tigers TGL win legitimately should have been number. Is that Jack Nicklaus won three times. Johnny Miller won three times. We'll get to Nicholas. We should have mentioned it on us.

Hold a thought for Johnny Miller because we'll come back to him in a minute. Tom Watson won twice Billy Casper twice. Kerry Middlehoff. I've mentioned Brandt Snedeker won twice. Dustin Johnson who never won the Pebble Beach Pro-Am who probably you would think might have Tiger Woods. No, he won. Yeah. You remember that was, that was like on Monday morning, right? When they came back out and it was down late and then stormed back from seven down.

Our guy, actually, uh, our guy, our guy, Patty Berta, uh, he, he was caddying for his dad one year. He was posted, he, he posted us on Instagram the other day was caddying for his dad one year. He posted this on Instagram the other day. He was caddying for his dad one year. One of the slides he put up on Instagram this week was both of them looking really surprised. And the caption was, watching Matt Goggle treat a volunteer like really, really poorly. Funny to ask him the story on that. Arnold Palmer? Arnold Palmer never won the story on that uh or palmer arnold palmer never won the peloton beach prime or the crossbeam in my head ernie l he was the runner-up twice 1966 1971 ernie l's also never won gary

player amanda it's my heart uh only was the runner-up once in 1963 this is a foolish tournament you know this is going up against big tournaments in the Southern Hemisphere. It's true. It's true. I think we've seen a couple runner-ups on top of winning. Whitheson's probably been truly the goat of the Povich prom. As far as a tournament goes, that's what I ascribe to him and then Davis Love III at a Harbor Town.

The Phil thing is, kind of a wooden art imitates life. What if I told you there's four days out of the Monterey Peninsula, all you need to do, you need to play really good golf and you need to glad hand CEOs. So I was like, yeah, I'll really hold my beer. One ring to ignite the mall. How many times will you let me play? I'm going to win most of them. Going back to what we talked about with Trevor,

that makes it even more impressive though too because Bill loves good wine. Sure, yeah. You gotta keep your eye on the balance both of those things. And in a lot of eras too, you know, he won that time in the dark against Paul Casey, you know, like a win all the way back in the 90s. Tiger won in 2012. Is that when Casey was like, I don't think I want to play anymore. All right guys, back to the kind of the AMS. Actor Jack Lemmon competed in the 20, 26 of the Clambake slash Helvage Pro Ams. Can you guess how many times Jack made the cut? Jack loved that.

How many times did he compete? I feel like it's either zero or 25. How many times did he make the cut? 23. I'm gonna say zero. Zero is the correct answer. Lemmon who starred in the Odd Couple, Save the tiger, some like it hot, grumpy old man, two time Oscar winner.

He really, really wanted to make the cut and in the 90s and 80s, this became sort of a running bit. We know we respect the bits around here that could Jack Lemon make the cut this year. He paired with Peter Jacobson 17 times. And in 1998, they were finally poised to make the cut. They were even four shots off the lead, but then Reigns washed out the tournament and the Pro-M was canceled and moved

to August. You know what a really underrated Jack Lemon is that I really want to watch because it would take me back to simpler times. My fellow Americans. There's a famous Jim McKay quote, famous ABC announcer. Now we go to Jack Lemmon standing over his all important ninth shot. Did they not used to have a net bogey? I guess not. Like another thing here.

He might just be the guy that's crying. Apparently he once memory shanked a drive off of 18T into his actual room on the lodge. Which was sort of a running. That's a sick life goal. That might be like same, you know, same number of people have done that as torn their ACL. Yeah.

How many balls have you hit into your own room? That's like life goals, cause you gotta have the property. I know your Phil hit it up into the hotel on the old course. I really guess the closest comparison is ever happened. Jack had a pretty good sense of humor in general, but obviously about his awful golf game in 1999, he told a story to the press where he was lying 10 on the green and staring down

a 35 foot putt. He turned to his caddy and said, which way do you think this breaks? And the caddy said, I don't know, Mr. Lemon, who cares? and said, which way do you think this breaks? And the caddy said, I don't know, Mr. Lemon, who cares? Speaking of candid comments, Johnny Miller won the Pebble Beach in 1974 with a gentleman named Lock de Brevet, Bretville, Lock de Bretville, the president of Classic Racing Sports Group.

But he couldn't resist doing what is truly the Johnny thing. The competition was canceled after 54 holes holes and they asked Johnny if he was relieved or happy. And he said, yeah, I'm kind of relieved. My partner was starting to choke down the stretch. In 1977, Gerald Ford played in the Crosby with partner, Oliver Palmer as his partner, but he was unavailable for the first round. So Arnie had to post a score with his own ball. Any guesses as to what made President Ford unavailable?

What year is it? The 70th year? 1977. Oh, gosh. Is this the end of the Vietnam War? I don't know when that ended. It was the last day of his presidency. Oh, it's gonna say 77. It was January 20th, he flew directly from Andrews Air Force Base after handing over the Peaceful Transit Power to Jimmy Carter to Pebble Beach, spent the day on the range,

and then joined Arnie for the next day. Arnie's headshot is 74 in the first round. The media was sort of teasing Arnie, are you ready for president, are you game ready for President Ford? And Arnie said is the president ready for my game? He's got to be playing better than I am. Ford was the first president but not the last. George W. Bush also participated in the Pell Beach program in 1994 and 95. Just a quick trivia bit here in 1977 that same year it's also the first year that women were invited

to compete in the Crosby. Two collegiate All-Americans were invited, Marian Breton, a sophomore at UCLA, who was the California amateur champion, and Tulsa sophomore Nancy Lopez, who would go on to win 48 times on the LPGA Tour. I didn't realize Nancy Lopez went to Tulsa. Yep.

The best ever finished by a woman's am was Olympic softball medalist, Lisa Fernandez. She and he and Nick Watney finished T9 in 2000. What needs to beat this tournament? All right guys, it is time for true false. I am going to ask you if you think it is true that this person paired with Tiger during his many years of playing at the Bellevue Pro Am or if I am making this up. There are some false positives in here.

If they did not play with him, I might be able to share an anecdote a little bit about them. Or that individual may have performed a tiger jam. That's true, yeah. So we'll start with Ken Griffey Jr. No, he did not play with Tiger. I'm gonna say yes.

I'll say yes. He did not. He was Marco Mira's partner several years, but he was often in the same force. I remember him playing this event. With Tiger Woods. Kevin Costner. Yes. No. Yes. Yes. Kevin Costner played twice with Tiger, 1997 and 98. It was a huge deal. Some say the biggest crowds that had ever followed people at a golf tournament when costar because tin cup had recently come out and Tiger had won the 1987 master was about to win the 1987 master. I mean, that was like, well, America was was back. Tiger Kevin Costner pebble beach like that. That's it. Let's go.

They famously finished second in the pro am competition. They never did win it. Kid Rock. I'm gonna say that's not to say no, that is bait. No, he did not. But rock did pair with John Daly at this event in 2004. And I was impressed to learn Kid Rock was actually Jack Nicholas's partner in another event. The champions tournament was correct. Top of the rock. Yes. Yes. I remember that

vividly. We need to do an oral history about some of these dudes. Earl Woods. No. Oh, good. I'll say yes. I'm gonna say no. Yes, Earl Woods did miss bait in 1998.

He was in the clubhouse right now. He was actually. I thought he was paired with Costner in 97, 98. So he was, 99 was Costner. Earl was originally going to be Tiger's partner in 97, but he had heart surgery. And so Tiger agreed to pair with Costner. And then Earl played the following year.

It was the only time that Earl played. Joe Pesci. He definitely played this event. I remember that. I'm gonna say no, I think that's too early. I keep saying no to all of them, but I'm no. I'll say yes. Joe Pesci did not play with Tiger,

but he did play with Pat Perez. to all of them, but I'm no. I'll say yes. Joe Behezhy did not play with Tiger, but he did play with Pat Perez. I remember one of my first, I think my first Pat Perez memory ever was from Pebble and he was on the 18th. He threw his driver in the ocean. Oh yeah, that's right. What about Clown, do you?

How about Michael Jordan? No. Ooh, that sounds like too much of a circus. I'm going to say no. I'm going to say no as well. He did not, but they had planned to play together in 1999, but Jordan cut off the tip of his finger with a cigar thing and had to have surgery. And so he had to pull out last minute. And that's when cost him in like Scotty with the chainsaw. Exactly. The one name music Jordan needs to come and play in this.

Michael, if you're listening, open it, we could grease the skids here at the AT&T. How about the musician sting? I'm going to say yes. Yes. You know what? You can make that happen. No, I made that up. Sting How about Samuel L Jackson I Feel like I have no I'm just gonna keep saying yes. I'm gonna say yes. I It's a yes. No, but Sam did play several times backwards He was wearing a backwards beret. Including with Bo Van Pelt. That's what I remember. Hello world, man.

Brown Deer Park. So I put this one here for you. John Denver, singer John Denver. No, he never played with Tiger. No. I mean, I feel like the guy that's disrespectful. No, he did not. But John Denver, he was a stick.

He played regularly in the program. He actually used to lead sort of people in song as he was walking around. He died in 97. He of course Yeah, famously died here in Pacific Grove crashed his plane just up the road. I didn't realize it was here the morning That he had his plane crash. He played at spyglass, which was John Denver's favorite course on earth to play with his friends Uh, how about Tony Romo? I don't think he always played with Steve. I don't think tigers played since Romo. Definitively yes. In 2012, we played Tiger and Romo play together because that was when Phil walked off the

first tee with them and Phil and Romo had hung out that week. That's right. And he's like, Hey, Tony, great time last night. Great to see you. I knew it would piss Tiger off. I remember that. Tiger sat out for many years, did not play from a stretch from I think 2003 until 2012, but then asked

Romo if he would play it again. How about Emmy winning actor Craig T Nelson? Oh, yes. Well, that's that's the way that it came back. It's really hard for Randy and I'm gonna say I'm gonna say no, I'm gonna say yes. That's a weird I'll say yes. He played this like every year. No, they did not play together, but he was a regular participant. Coach.

Yes, Mr. Kuhl. You're running a wonderful scheme here. Just masking all this. I cannot tell what's next. How about former Stanford teammate Jerry Chang? Yes. I'm gonna say nobody might've cattyed one year. I'll say yes.

Yes, Tiger actually played with Jerry Chang three times as the person he played with the most just beating out Kevin Costner. We also wrote down Magnolia Lane with Quad City. The train. Yes, I can't figure out what Jerry Chang is doing right now. I think he's like a successful businessman or something to that effect. But here's the Yahoo guy. It's very like hidden within the Internet.

That was Jerry Yang. That was Jerry Yang. District Eric. How about country music sensation Clay Walker? I'll say no. If I could make a living out of love, I'll say no. I'll say yes to Zag. No, he did not play but he was Kevin Stadler's partner. Clay Walker was a, how about country music sensation Eric Church? No. no, I'll say no. I know he is playing this year with Sam Burns as a 17 handicap.

He's the highest hand. Randy had a banger of a joke. He hit Paul, Paul Gasol with the ball in three fairway today. I was, as I was watching, walking up there, it may have been a glance. And it was kind of rolling up there. And then he sculled one so hard. It was headed right for me. I was getting ready to get in front of it, but it hit the back lip of the bunker

and stayed in front of one, but it hit the back lip of the bunker and stayed in. I was trying to get in front of one. The Eric Church. Yeah, the highest handicap in the field, man after my heart. It looks very much that way. How about country music sensation, Derek's Darius Rucker? Yes. Yes. Yes.

No, they did not play Darius Rucker. They were thick as thieves. Played many times. They are friends, but they never played together. Rucker did, has played many times, including last year with MJ Duffy. How about Dallas Cowboys stalwart Emmett Smith? No. I'm gonna say no. Say yes. No, but Emmett Smith has played twice including with Esteban Toledo in 2004. Have we ever told that story? Yes. How about comedian Kevin James?

Comedian and meme inspiration Kevin James. God, he was the juice there for a couple years. I'm going to say no, not enough to say no. I'll say yes. No, but he was Kevin James played several times. He was Brian Watts's partner. Kevin James and George Lopez actually made a documentary about was Brian What's the guy that was was he was winning the British Open one year and they were like

This is an American guy who plays the jet the Japan tour and like there was and he would say it every single time I mean you need to get deep on solomized deep dive in 1998 Good one. How about a political commentator Rush Limbaugh? He definitely played. He played. I don't think he played with Tiger. Yeah, not that. That's correct. He played twice, including a fuzzy Zellers partner in 2002. They didn't want musician Huey Lewis. Yes, he's played with everybody. I think I'll say yes. You know, technically Huey Lewis, part of the media, because he's part of the news. Tiger wouldn't like that.

They did not ever play together. Huey was a regular partner of Peter Jacobson's after Jake Crouch. How about alleged steroid abuser Roger Clemens? I'm gonna say no. I'll say yes. No, they do not play together, but Roger. They're not all those. Well, Tiger only played like seven years to be honest. Roger did play in 1999 with Billy Andre.

How about Alice Cooper heavy metal singer? I'll say yes. No, as he's zagging. No, he did not play with Tiger, but Alice was a regular competitor. He was Rocko Mediates' partner several times. That's fun. How about smooth jazz sensation Kenny G?

I don't think he ever got the Tiger. I don't think he ever played Tiger. No. No, but in 2001, Kenny G and Phil Mickelson were leading, they were two partners, and they were leading the Pro-Am portion of the tournament until they made a mess of 18, a bogey on the 18 to fall into a tie with Tiger and Jerry Chang. Kenny, who really loves golf, was crushed. But as he was walking off the 18th green, his phone

started buzzing. Because this is 2001, he whipped out his flip phone and answered and Tiger was on the line. Kenny, it's Tiger, Kenny G was sharing the story later. I said, how the fuck did you get my number? He says, hey man, I'm sitting on an airplane getting ready to take off and I wanted to watch the last hole. Man, you guys really choked coming down, didn't you? I said, hey Tiger, fuck you.

And then he starts laughing. He goes, hey listen, I just wanna congratulate you guys. I'm very proud to share the trophy with you. And I said, hey Tiger, I really appreciate that. So that was cool. That's tiger woods for you. He dishes it out and he doesn't mind taking it. Unbelievable. This concludes our

Kev, that was, what a electric stuff. You threw 140 pitches there. Just kind of a like three inning save. Don't get a lot of those in this day and age. I have one piece of trivia for you. Sally and I played a course. That was the site of the original Brosby Clambake.

Ooh. Free Pebble. Where was that? I feel like this was in the California season of Tura Sauce. It was not. It wasn't? Oh, OK. It was a separate trip.

Same state. No, I don't know. Old Brockway in Lake Tahoe. How about that? I was like, I don't know, man. Some of the biggest trees I've ever seen. That was a while back. And then we played that really cool pop-up course. I remember that.

Well, KBV, thank you for hopping on, man. That was unbelievable stuff. And just before you duck out, we're going to bring Randy back in in a second. We've got some highlights from Randy, of course, got to play this golf course a couple of years ago with Michelle Wee. Just around, I wanted to revisit. I thought it'd be fun to look at some of those highlights, but before we do, Cody's telling me

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changes everything terms and conditions apply visit att.com slash guarantee for details. Cody, do you have the video of Randy playing Pebble Beach because I just if you haven't watched this in a while, I think it's worth revisiting as the tournaments here this week. What a day that was. We might be fine. We're just unlocking windows over here. Welcome back to the film room. Oh god. Randy.

That was such a big opening for you. Is that an OB? It might be. I'll hit a quick provisional. Oh nice. Oh. Long. Nice three Randy. Oh nice. Yeah we'll make that look like the first in the edit huh. Oh no. Uh oh. Oh no. Uh oh. Hey.

Oh god TC, I'm shanking it. This sucks. I'm sorry to the viewers. Oh god. Another one. Oh my god, another one. Just the most vivid memories of Royal Dornock. Oh god, another one! Oh my god, another one! Just the most vivid memories of Royal Dornock. Oh hey! Another one! I think I won then, right? That's it. I think you're toast. Yeah, I'm toast. Unless you want to give me another shot just to...

Okay, yeah. Sympathy. Michelle! Michelle! Thank you, thank you. What a match. Thank you. What a walk. Woohoo!

I won! You come to a world class golf course and you just really want to play well. You want to like, I want to play. And it's like, no man, it's not going to happen today. It's just tough. Ray, there you have it, man. How about that? I feel for you in a way.

I mean, a true, like I feel bad for this country, but this is tremendous content, Darren Revelle type of way. A true put the bobsled on the shoulder and let's walk it across the line. What was the final tally? I believe 104. Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah. It's a lot of strokes. I haven't thought about that much in the last year and a half. Same question for Trevor. Like, do you ever wake up and not think about winning the Masters? Like, do you ever not think about that 104 at Pebble Beach? I just want to say, I hope the video conveyed just how windy and

chilly it was that day. Can attest. And you played the game the right way. And you're at a disadvantage. Reteam. Six, seven minutes windy. Right? Yeah.

I'm not being sarcastic. No, I know. That's not great. Thank you. The one thing that was great was the six iron you hit on number seven. That was the most flush shot you hit all day. It did almost cross, you know. It may have landed in Big Sur, Honestly, it may have hit I think

it could have been playable from my caddy that day fluff shout out Brian. He took that round really hard. He was very invested in success. He should own a lot of the plane. Well, and I told him afterwards, I was like, Listen, Brian, there's nothing you could have done that day that was that was Just out of your purview Let me ask you guys this and really I will start with you well I'll start with you are there any other rounds kind of like that in your in your

resume and kind of what I'm getting at is the nexus of worst you've played at a course that you just really didn't want to play bad at. I mean, anything else that springs to mind? No, for sure. I mean, scroll a little further in our YouTube channel, you can find our Royal Dorneck. And I actually had it going for nine holes.

And then I stepped to 10 and cold shanked about four in a row. And then I had to play the rest of the back nine with my hybrid. It truly, it, I spent a lot of time in my life with anxiety when I would roll up to great golf courses that I was going to start shanking. There was an anxiety of playing so poorly at such a good golf course that that would really distract me and affect me. And I think I've grown out of that for the most part, but it's only because you got to bottom out. Yeah, you got to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Anything that springs to mind? Uh, not necessarily the best golf course, but I know the, uh,

the first round of the state championship when I was a senior in high school, this is solid about 88. Uh, I, I put a brand new putter in play the night before just because it was, uh, like the old oil can Scotty camera like that. Oh, it didn't, God, didn't care about it. It was just like a really cool putter. Like you had to oil it and do all this stuff. I didn't know how to do any of that.

Colors are just, and I think I had 45 putts in the opening round and we were far and away the best team in the state. Like we should have obliterated everybody. All I had to do was not do what I did, which was I carted an 88 and I finished the round. literated everybody. All I had to do was not do what I did, which was I carded an 88. And I finished the round, I was as close to tears as you can be. And like you finished the round,

there's this big scoreboard where all the scores get posted. And I like, I just need to go get away and hide. Sign the card, grab that putter that I, you know, wore out. I'm just putting behind the green. I think I was in tears. And I hear somebody on the other side of the wall from a very hopeful teams like oh Solomon shot 88 Like celebrating me shooting 88 and I think that that might have broken me back. I didn't mean to jump on the punch line I just I I feel like that the whole audience is just like they were there for that day at this point Well the last time I so good last time I told that story

It was right before some tournament and i'm out like walking. I was literally i was at the point. Well, the last time I told that story was right before some tournament and I'm out like walking. I was at the US Open at 2023 at LACC. I'm walking down 18 Fairway with Rory during a practice round. Somebody just shouts out, so much. And Rory's like, what the hell is that about? I was like, ah, long story. No, it's just about this really good round I played. It cost us the state championship. Did you ever use that putter again? Absolutely not. Really? Where is it? What do you think happened? My friend's dad. I want to look cool for the championship. I look so cool.

I think the entire season one of Taurus sauce. Yeah. You know, I were there with Zach Blair. You guys are all just golden age. This gold. This is unbelievable. The good doctor. Oh, and this kinks. See, I just can't keep it out of the tea tree. And I'm trying, I can't enjoy, I don't even know anything about

architecture, but I'm just like, I can't keep on the planet. I stink at this. Like, what am I doing here? Just feel that deeply bad. Like I can't stop making double. It sucks, man. And I had a bad attitude. And so I'm really glad we got to go back and Redo it that's that's good stuff one each. Yeah. Yeah First round of Pine Valley was bad bad bad bad, which is first round at Pine Valley I'm like, Oh, we're dialed, man. Would you rather? Or do you like bogey?

The first hole? Sign me up for a bogey every time. Totally. He took tour both ACLs and pinebanks. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that.

I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that.

I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to do that. I'm like, Oh, we're dialed, man. Would you rather first hole? Sign me up for a bogey every time. Totally. TJ tore both ACLs at five. Basically. Yeah, exactly. There's God that's that's bad. You know what? This, this year at Taurus, honestly, I played really bad. You know, the shank at, at Royal Melbourne East, when I'm

like, just pretty, pretty hapless. Yeah, just deep into this journey. Yeah. It's like, I shouldn't be doing that. And I'm like, I've just been watching the wheels. The wheels of my car have just been doing this for weeks and they finally just, I mean, it's just, there's a lot. Let me think on it.

I got a lot of examples, but I wanted to go next. It's very funny that I didn't really know what KBB was putting together, but I put together sort of a similar game. And this is based on a conversation that we had the other day I teased us at the front of the show It's gonna be country music star or golfer and a lot of this is because if you think we overdo The country music sensation Eric Cole bit on the podcast. Imagine what it's like off the podcast Oh my god, you go to dinner and I mean it's just there's just hours and hours of this bit I was like, yeah, this is kind of fun. We could do like a golfers or country artists. And what I want to say is that when I brought this idea up,

Neil, fan of the podcast, I was like, I'm going to do a podcast. I'm going to do a podcast. I'm going to do a podcast. I'm going to do a podcast. I'm going to do a podcast. I'm going to do a podcast. I'm going to do a podcast. I'm going to do a podcast. I'm going to do a podcast. I'm going to do a podcast. I'm going to do a podcast. I'm going to do a podcast. I'm going to do a podcast.

I'm going to do a podcast. I'm going to do a podcast. I'm going to do a podcast. I'm going to do a podcast. I'm of fun. We could do like a golfers or country artists. And what I want to say is that when I brought this idea up Neil famous for getting all the details, right? Of course. Said, there is no way you're going to pull me on any of that one. You are not going to get one Perez. Okay. Just Greg Maddox demanded Eddie Perez. That's, he is getting by. He's going to be an absolute backstop, he says.

So, are you guys ready? God, I hope you miss the first one. I have 12 of them. What level of professional golf are you able to go to? He's earned those. I would say college kids, right? No, all of these guys have,

you know, I'll just tell you, all of them are corn fairy tour players. All are corn fairy, no PJ Tour. All of them are corn fairy tour players. That wasn't part of the game. What did you think I was gonna say, Sa-hit Tagala? Yeahala? Yeah, it's a golfer, bro. I saw I saw Let's go. All right ready Russell hidden first one Trey Winstead

Golfer Cody was laughing Cody's a big country music. Country music. Wynstead. I'm going to go country music. Yeah, I'm going to leave Neil on island. I'm going country music. Leader of the clubhouse right now is Neil. He is a golfer on the corn fairy tour. Number two, Clay Fiegler. Oh man. I mean, that's not a country music.

That's a golfer. That's a golfer. Neil is two for two. Wow. Not going to get one. How many are there? There's swell golfer. Neil is two for two. Wow. Not gonna get one. How many are there? There's 12. Bailey Zimmerman.

That's a golfer. And I know that's a country music star. Bailey. Country music. Zimmerman. Golfer. Country music. Neil is three. Let's go. That is a country music. I'm told that's a country music star's a country the odds of flipping heads 12 times in a row number four Sam barber. Oh

Well come help me offer singer Buddy sent me a song. Okay, I gotta go Four or five you're still pretty good. Well, You're still pretty good. You're doing well. You're still pretty good. That is a country music singer. Davis Chatfield. That's a singer. That sounds like a golfer. Ooh, I think a singer. That is a golfer on the Corn Fairy Tour.

That sounds like a country music sensation. Chatfield? That's fantastic. Davis Chatfield. Next one, Vincent Mason. Chatfield that's fantastic. Davis Chatfield. Next one, Vincent Mason. Golfer. Golfer. Country music. Vincent Mason is a country music artist.

Wow! Here comes Randy. I got out of my vibe. Now they're trying to bluff me. They're bluffing me. There it's like poker now. Don't look at him. Don't make eye contact.

You want my sunglasses? Go ahead. Uh, Carter Jenkins Golf music that's I think actually golf. That's a golfer. Dang it. We're back on it. We're back on the skits Let's go to Tyler Braden Country music sensation golfer music country music sensation This one's important. I will spell it for you guys Baker blank and ship Baker spelled thusly B A Y K E R Baker blank and ship gotta be a country music sensation golfer golfer country That's I was going to say that screams golfer. Yeah. I think that's a golfer.

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I want to be transparent. I think we could play that game. That wasn't even hard. That took me two minutes to put that game together. Pulled up the hot country Playlist and pulled up the corn fairy tour leader board. I didn't even have to look for that one. Hot, steamy country. All right, guys, we're kind of rounding the corner here. What else we got to get to? Let's go around the horn.

Randy, maybe give me one thing. Could be a memory for the week, could be something you notice, could be something you want people to take away into the weekend. What direction you want to go? Gosh, that's so many directions we could go. You know, of course, I want to acknowledge the time spent amongst friends. What I'll always remember. Kind of what this tournament was founded on. That's what we've learned from KVV.

Oh, yeah. That and giving money to pro golfers. If you'll allow me to be a little sentimental, I'll drop the bit in the hyperbole for a second. Just taking an opportunity. We had an offsite at the beginning of the week. We're here doing live shows in a house off the third hole at Pebble Beach. Just leaving space to say, wow. What a journey. What a leave room for wow. It's been a ton of fun.

Yeah, exactly. That does hit me on weeks like this. I might go on my operational commandments. What's that? Leave room for a while? Leave room for a while. I think you could put that one on there. It's well said. It's almost- Like, I hope that's not too sappy. No, of course. Truly, like that's what I think on weeks like this.

And I mean, this is kind of the stuff we've always wanted to do. And, you know, it's been a fight over many, many years and there's just slowly, but, you know, but surely there's some turning wheels at the tour and letting us do just, hopefully fun content. Guys stopping by at the range yesterday and all that. It's been fun and having somebody like AT&T to be able to support all this stuff as well. I know we make fun of all the sponsor stuff, but they made this happen as well. So it's good. Great. That's great. To be very clear. I want to ask you a question, Randy. Give me a, uh, you know, in the multiverse or whatever,

give me the version of yourself that would laugh the hardest if you told them like, yo, check it out. This is what we did this week. Like, here's a photo. Here's a video of, I mean, it was, probably when I was sitting, uh, probably this time of year, right? Just getting into auditing busy season, you You're you're on your big client job. You know, maybe the day I wore my basketball shorts in. Sure. You're in Chicago. It's like, like 17 degrees. wear basketball. Like, I know it's a I think it was President's

Day. Like, we still can't do that. Had you told me on that day that, you know, several years from now, this would be happening. Big dog. I would have just keep following your nose, man. You're on the right track. You're doing it, man. You're doing it young fella. See what we got. Or you want to take it? Well, I just want to give a shout out to Hovland. I told him we weren't quite ready for me. He's in second. He is in second.

So listen, what I can promise you is that the Beluga will evaluate his models. We will make adjustments. We're proprietary though. We were trying to bet a thousand, you know? We're looking at the returns of the whole fund. Well, JT's playing well, so there's a lot of good stuff up there.

I just want to be very clear. Everyone's, I'm taking some chirping online for Doug Gim. Doug Gim, that was a mistake. I called out that he was going to be bad. Listen, I said that's not Ken is not where he's going to finish. It was right there. I also had moved his we need to move him down was the note. Go back and look at the tape while we're here just in last place right now. I'm seeing Lute Oberg, which I was heard yesterday. There was a report on this podcast

that he was feeling better. Feeling better, feeling better. That's what we reported. That's interesting. No, I would say this is gonna be, I don't know, maybe not hard to explain, but there's a lot of, this is lovely patio, we're on the live show beyond the range Inside the ropes. My favorite thing is at the end or as far out as we walked yesterday

What we were like real focused on was like there's a guy had a yellow security jacket on the beach access and it kind of comes Down to like hey, you think that guy's gonna like let us down to the beach Is it gonna be cool or not? And, that's the stuff I love of like, I mean, it's just like, I, you know, I'm not trying to get into like the TV compound or like the lodge. I just want, I just want to go check out the dog beach. And it's like being able to check stuff like that, like little like adventures like that is like the, I'll probably think about that.

Yeah. Every time you watch this tournament for the rest of your life, you know, you're going to see the big over from the guy. Trevor was just, was just a little half down by the 10th green. I was right there. Yeah, I don't know. It's just like a little personal Memory and that guy was like he's like hey man. Are we allowed down speech? Don't know why you wouldn't be it's like well Hey, all right. Thanks, you know, that's great I'll go in a slightly different direction and just kind of a bit of gratitude that our guy Scotty's back. I'm very happy that Scotty Scheffler is playing golf again. TC and I were just talking about it.

His presser, we talked a little bit about it on the Wednesday show, but his presser this week was awesome. He just is, I think, a lot more thoughtful. I believe it was you that said this. He's very interesting, but you've kind of got to do the work and you've got to kind of actually listen to what he's saying. Yeah. And with a cursory glance, And you have to ask a good question. Yeah.

And I think with a cursory glance, some of it can look a little cliche or a little, you know, I'm just kind of trying to get out of this question. I don't think he is. And I really enjoyed him saying kind of the opposite side of the coin to the JT letter of like, we need to, you know, not that I think JT was like, we need to be juggling while we're, while we're playing, he wasn't saying that. But I think Scotty was like, man, it's, at the end of the day, like, it's kind of about the competition. And that's, you know, as soon as it stops being about that, I think it's a little different thing. And with that said, I'm going to answer every question. different thing. And with that said, I'm going to answer every question. I'm going to answer every question you got. I'm going to do all my media availability. I'm here if you want to ask me questions outside the ropes, inside the ropes. I'm kind of focused on being the best player in the world. And I don't know. I think there's. And that's fine. Let us in on the process. Yeah, exactly. That I don't need you to be an entertainer. Just like you want to be a little closer to the deep.

You know how that like how did we get to that point where it's like, you got to tell us like truly like just caddy conversations. What's going on? Yeah. Well, it's kind of what we're talking about with Trevor and the different shot tracers of like just adding context to that's all, all I'm looking for. I'm not looking for anybody to tell jokes. How's Scotty playing? Five under. Five under at Spyglass, the harder golf course. So I mean it kind of seems like

the fitness is usual. So that's all I got. What do you got? I don't mean this. I truly, truly cannot believe I played this tournament two years ago. I don't, I don't. I remember always looking for a way to shoehorn that. Neither could I. It doesn't even seem real when you come back and you watch the amateurs and stuff playing it.

I don't understand how that happened. We were walking down 18th Faireway yesterday and he was like, In the tournament, I roped a three-wood around this tree. It was sick. I can't believe that happened either. Bill Murray was waiting for me on the tee. Have you seen caddy shack like that guy. We had no way of playing together. We had to wait out a hail delay and like, dumb ass

me I forgot to like bring my wife in under the umbrella. He's like, you should probably go get your wife. Oh, thanks, Bill. Murray. Thanks, Bill Murray. I just totally go to sound looking out. It was the most surreal I just cannot believe that happened. It just does not does not seem real but man well I'd be real happy if we get to come back and do this every year because this is Great way to kick kind of kick off the year

I know the tour has five different starts to the year But this this one is starting to feel like just the end of are we on the second hole after the opening drive? I Think that's right. Yeah back. Yeah the opening drive. Is that we think we're still in the opening drive I don't know who could say I think the opening drive is the two Hawaii events. Okay. And now I think we're kind of in, I call it like the third hole. Okay. Maybe second hole, third hole. Uh, this is where you're really searching for the game. That's right. How are our winter picks doing? I mean, I picked Scotty. I went out,

sticking my neck out. I will say this. Tommy Fleetwood is, I think he 61, never hit what is he 61 that's exactly right from TC solid pick JT who's T eight six under Randy do you have a pick his t30 under it's kind of right now and I had Jason day oh you're not gonna like you two It's you on Jason day I 250 to t52 he battled back. He was yeah, he was a bit down the board but Guys, I don't know if there's too much else too much else to say other than I'm looking forward to an unbelievable week of Broadcast here from Pebble Beach Trev got me fired up man. They're still adding bells and whistles. I think Randy I weren't there What was what was just a glow of Trev the crux of the so you see that big ass crane that's back. Yeah, that's new

Okay, they added that just just basically to like get better shots of the beach and to show the tee shot on 14 Which I think is like shots of the beach, which I think is like go. I was asking for better shots of the beach well, no, no, no, but I think He said it in the opposite order. I don't want to put words I don't want to pour words in his mouth because he was like, no, we did that for the shot on 14 because seller shy always thought that that shot got short. He's like, I sellers always thought that shot got short shrift and people couldn't appreciate how tough that T shot was. So we brought in that crane. And then I think there was more like, well, why is up there? I mean, you can see and so that's something that's like, you know, who's not like that, that's not part of a like sponsor deliverable. That's not, that's just like trying to show the golf better. And so we kind of started this with John saying the same thing that like,

man, we got like two years worth of just kind of pent up like excitement for what I think is going to be a great Sunday. Got a great leaderboard so far. We've got a firm golf course, hopefully the weather cooperates or, or doesn't hope in a fun way., a little bit one day. Yeah. Not to change it, but I want to redo my answer. If you told me like 10 years ago that I'd be interviewing the CEO at AT&T, I wouldn't believe you on that one. The plan was not to start the show with that. We had, we had,

his schedule's a little bit busier than ours. Still like I thought that was like, I really enjoyed that. And again, like I mentioned, that was our idea. We wanted to have him on to ask him some questions. So he was great. Gracious for this time. So yeah, I don't know. I don't know what else there's to say other than I'm very excited for an unbelievable weekend.

And good to be here with you guys. We'll be live. Also with you. Sunday night, to recap, of course, the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am, normal live show Sunday night. We'll be back home to cover all that. Maybe a few social shenanigans going on. night to recap of course the the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am normal live show Sunday night we'll be back home to cover all that but maybe a few social shenanigans going out absolutely watch watch your social feeds I also would

say just the biggest shout out in the world to AT&T for having us out this is the this was not the why don't you come out to our booth and do a different show this is why don't you come out here and do your show. As you can tell by the no-do torn ACL talk for about 25 minutes. That might be my biggest. Can I change my answer? That might be my biggest takeaway. I feel very vindicated by that.

I was like really worried that that you know, that's just just that I was like it has to be I think I heard that I won't hear anything more outrageous, but yeah, awesome to find partners who are supporting things such as that. Shout out to Cody McBride behind the lens, behind the computer, behind his kind of metal lenses he has on right now. Shout out to our guy Matt, getting all our social clips out.

TC's not here, but shout out to TC. And the whole rest of the team, KBV bringing the noise, Trevor, John Stanky. I mean, it was just a dream couple of days, guys. So a blast to be with you and shout out to everybody who watched. That's six hours of content, man. It was a- That's all we got.

And it kind of flew. I mean, I got all the notes we didn't even get to. I know, I know. So save those for next year. But- I got so much in the tank. Guys, maybe we go walk around and enjoy the views. What do you think? All right. Well, cheers. Crack on. Thank you for watching. See you guys next time.