No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 982: Sunday at ANGC, TC at LIV Miami + Valero, ANWA & LPGA Match Play

Episode Date: April 7, 2025

Neil and Soly have arrived in Augusta for our coverage of the Masters and kick off tonight’s pod with some observations from their day at ANGC. Then it’s recap time as we’ve got four tournaments to digest with Brian Harman’s win in San Antonio, Carla Bernat Escuder at the ANWA, Madelene Sagstrom defeating Lauren Coughlin in an all-NLU Young Hitter Final at the LPGA Match Play, and TC’s surprise trip to witness Marc Leishman winning at LIV Miami. Support our sponsors: Footjoy AT&T NLU Pro Shop - Performance Hats Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining The Nest: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at nolayingup.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Be the right club. Be the right club today. Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different? Better than most. Expect anything different. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Lang, a podcast. Sali here coming to you live from Augusta. We have made it to Masters Week here at an Airbnb,

wonderfully sourced by the guy to my right, Mr. Neal Schuster. Hello, Akerito. How are you, buddy? Cheers. Good to see you. Cheers. Thank you. Likewise. We're awkwardly sitting next to each other because we got to kind of face the camera. I don't really know how we're going to talk to each other exactly. But we're taking the show a little bit on the road this week. But how are you doing?

Fantastic. Pretty easy travel day because I got out early. But it seems like some tough, tough stuff going on at ATL. TC, we can get into some airport logistics later. Okay. KVV is still not made it in yet. He'll probably be arriving at some point during this podcast. And the other voice you hear is of course, Mr. TC, what'd you get into today, TC? I had a really normal day. I flew down to live Miami. Didn't think I was going to do that this morning. And then buddy was like, Hey, we're fine. I'm going to live Miami. I was like, cool. So

we got some winners from around, we're going to I don't live Miami. It was cool. So we got some winners from route. We're going to get into that. Trust me. We're going to hold the court on that one. Uh, you didn't tell us this at all either until after you were leaving, which was sick, but, uh, Brian Harmon wins the Valero. Uh, gosh, I meant to look up the pronunciation to make sure I didn't mess it up, but Carla Bernat Escudar wins the Anwa.

I hope I got that right. It's good effort, buddy. I know I'm sitting next to the pronunciation guy himself. We got Leash and Ripper GC win at Trump Doral at Live Miami and Madeline Sagstrom, a young hitress, Outlast, another one of Lauren Coughlin at the T-Mobile match play. A lot of golf to talk about. What a finish. First off. What a world. What a world. I know. Unbelievable. All NLU final. Just get out in front of us. Didn't watch a lot of golf this weekend. A lot of world. Unbelievable. All NLU final. Just get out in front of us. Didn't watch a lot of golf this weekend. A lot of logistics. This was the travel day. A lot of logistics getting up here, got caught up on some

highlights. A lot of, a lot to try to take in from the funnel as you get into try to do a show tonight. But first off, congrats. Full funnel approach. For sure. Congrats to Brian Harmon on his win at the Valero Texas Open. As you all have heard this year, we are learning about the importance of how finding the right footwear for your game can make such a difference. We talked about how Justin Thomas switched to the Hyperflex and allowed him to fire off

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I got into a country fried steak. Wait, you flew into Atlanta and then drove? Yeah, why not? It's so much easier. I mean, because I got a direct from Newark and God, it was a zoo at the oversized baggage claim though. I mean, the people were not prepared. You rented a car?

Yeah, I rented a car, drove over. It was delightful. I got in at, you know, 10 30 and made my way over. I, uh, got to the media center. The unbelievable media center Delta or United. Oh, I flew United. Actually went into the North terminal for the first time in a very long time. Yeah.

It was, it was pretty, pretty easy anyway. And enterprise gave me the tools to be my boss. Free shout out there. Come on. He's still using the golf cart. Listen, we get to the media center. Solly meets me there. It was great.

We get out to the course and it's, you know, nobody's out there really. And it's a really awesome place to see. I haven't been here in 10 years. It's a great day. It's an awesome, the Sunday before is an awesome day. Yeah, it's just like the past champs and players that aren't at Valero, you know, just really laid back out there.

And so yeah, we, we see Gary Player coming off the 18th. Well, first we see Max caught up with Max. He, he shot a, he said he shot eight under on the front nine. No, he missed a 12 footer on nine to shoot 28 on the front. Just like walked off laughing of like a fucking course. I just saw, you know, he's like, I thought about playing another nine to see if I go shoot 59. I don't think that would set me up that well for the week, but what about like 57? Well, he shot 29. So he would have needed a heck of a back nine, I

think to shoot 57 trending TC. He loved it very much of just kind of laughing about the whole situation though. He's not playing his best golf, but saw a bunch of different players roll through. It's such a, so like this day is kind of weird. And we'll, we'll get into this, but Monday looks like a washout completely for whether there's a notice that went out to, to patrons that they're not letting people in right away. There's going to be an update at 8 AM, but don't show up at Augusta tomorrow morning. If you're listening,

if you're on your way to the course right now before 8am and listen to this, don't go. Because they're not letting you in. So there's a lot more players there than normal. We saw Billy Ho, Harris English, Russ Henley was there, Sung J, and then past champs can bring guests out and everything. It just truly looks like one of the great perks of winning the Masters is getting to take kind of whoever you want. We were laughing. You know, it's like you feel like me here. I'm like, okay, don't break any rules. Like, especially today, you know, just like, let's get off to a good start here.

And, uh, and I did, I did a great job, but it's like two different, like there's no rules for those guys. That's the vibe that it's like, actually it seems really chill for them. You know, anybody that's playing with them, it's like, man, it seems really laid back. And it's, that's it. I think a unique and an interesting vibe. It's, it's kind of fun to see when there's no, no other patrons really out there. So we, Carrie player walks off first of all, no patrons at all. Cause you guys aren't patrons either. I'm going to try to keep you from getting in trouble here too. Your media. No, that's what I said. I said no, no other. Oh, all right. Well, of course, of course.

Sorry. So we see this guy, this, this man come up in all black, coming up the 18th green. It's a great shot right at the flag, but it's coming in too flat, too low and goes through the green. Uh, it's of course, Mr. Gary player, the black night. And he talks to someone, uh, uh, coming off the course. And I'm, I'm going to read this word for, I'm going to tell the story. And I wish KVU was here. He's going to be arriving here shortly,

but I wish he could read this because he talks to another media member then, and it comes up to a group of six of us just standing there and just, Hey, what an experience. Every time I walk off this course, I take a piece of grass and I just, and he bends down, I'm not joking, bends down, pulls the overseeded rye. And he says, and I eat it. And he eats part of the grass from Augusta, just right in front of us, unprovoked. Nobody said a word.

That's like a blessed miles. Yes. Very much TC. He comes right up as if we don't know who he is and says three wins, three seconds, top 10, 14 times, most number of cuts, 67 visits, most number of times played in the championship and like just like sits there.

And I was like, yeah, but who's counting? He's like, I am. So I hit him with a who's counting. But I am. And somebody asked him, how do you feel? And he goes, like a lion. That's what I said, I said, how do you feel in these days? He goes, like a lion. And he thumps his, like thumps his abs. 90 years old, strong.

And he bangs himself in the belly. All my friends are dead. Lee, I have to tell my friend Lee Trevino, you know, I've beat my age 3,339 times and today is 3,340. And he said, what's so impressive about that? You got to shoot 17 over to beat it. I'm just dying. I'm like, Oh my god, first of all, I really wish KVB was here. And second of all, that's just like how he is 24 seven, just to come. I will say this guy is he's a he's a menace. He's he's a lot. But I mean, he's he's 89 is about to be 90. I mean, I got nothing but respect for it. Cause he did,

he thumped those apps and they were like, so hard. He did the same routine to the other group. Oh, no, that's the thing. TC. He did this. It's like a standup, but he did it to like three different groups of people. Other, the grass eating was for us though. Nobody else got that. That was a special treat. But I mean, he's 90 and he's, it's like some pop on the abs. Like he, it's crazy how, how, like he's literally, it's not a bit, he's in really he's it's like some pop on the abs like he it's crazy how like he's literally it's not a bit he's in really good shape.

So I was at your first time meeting him or experiencing him. I met him on this day last year as well because you can just kind of stand there and talk to people and it's it's like the actual kind of one. It's incredible though. It's not really an interaction. It's like he's doing a stand up bit and then he moved. He didn't really say goodbye. He just like then he just walked off. It was like he's doing a stand up bit and then he moved. He didn't really say goodbye. He just like then he

just walked off. It was like, all right, man. Oh, you know, and it just kind of off he goes. It was it was it was really wild. The world's most traveled man, as he claims. So, all right, we're gonna talk some Valero. We're gonna talk on what Jordan Perez is going to be joining us a little bit later. We had the hitter battle at the LPGA match play, lived around a few closing notes, but onto the Valero. Again,

I had to catch up via highlights. TC, I know you got to watch a little bit of it this week, but Brian Harmon took a three-shot lead in the final round, ended up winning by three shots as well. I outsource a lot of the research for this. I asked our Twitter folks to give us five word reviews for both live Miami and for Valero and I'm going to read some of the best ones. Sounds like you're using AI, Sully. Yes, crock crowdsourcing. LZ Y L 23 Brian Harmon wins.

Cool man. At Jason Middleton seven waggle waggle waggle waggle. Break 80 G said Tommy Fleetwood didn't break 80, which I will get there. Okay. We can get there. Yes. Crimshaw said, thank fuck. It's masters week. Rick Magiaras. Not sure if it's the real one or not, but Valero boring Miami, surprisingly decent spring Co not kids doing aim point, which is in reference to the drive chip and putt from this morning. A lot of these, but G Luke parents said there was professional golf today?

Question mark. I'm all Yannick, two tours, zero good product. JC Hudson, zero, zero. On what and LPGA were better and look out. It's Fouts said, Sally talking himself into speed. Those were the five word reviews from the You can't talk to speed after that performance. I don't know what you're doing. That's what I'm saying. I can't talk

yourself into speed. Right? Yeah. I'll talk myself into any any storyline for this week. I mean, there's going to be some toasting in the field. I don't think he is. Toasty might be a fit for Augusta if and when he ever makes it. Well, I just, I said this to Sally earlier. I do want to call out, like give the Georgia Bulldogs a little bit of shine. Four winners to start the year. They got Harris English, Sepp Straka, now Brian Harmon and Russell Henley. I mean, that's, that's a prolific stuff coming into Augusta

right down the road from UGA. So, uh, shout out to the Bulldogs for, uh, for a hot start to the season. Neil asked a question earlier. We'll get back to Valeria in a second, but he asked how many ways Scotty Scheffler is qualified for the masters. Do you, how many ways do you think there are TC? And can you guess which ones they are? I mean, there's like 50 something ways, right? There are, according to this website, I believe there are 20 different ways to qualify for the 20. I would say he's done 11 or 12 of those. How many do you think there are? No, no, probably probably 16 or 17. I feel like some of those classifications are that's not, I can't be that 16 or 17. I'm going to say, I mean, some of those classifications are, that's not, I can't be that 16 or 17.

I'm going to say, that's a very, that's a very Neil projection. I'm going to say nine. Yeah. I'm not going low. I'm going low. It's seven. Seven. Okay.

Oh, that's it. Yeah. He is a one five and six, which one five and six is master's tournament champions, winners of the players Championship in the last three years, Olympic gold medalist, that's one, 17, 18, 19 and 20 are the remaining criteria, which is individual winners of PGA Tour events of the prior year, those qualifying for the previous year's Tour Championship, top 50 at the end of the OWGR last year and top 50 as of two weeks ago. So anything glaring there that he's US open champions,

open champions, what is the PGA champions all five years or all four years in between Olympics? No, I think it's just one. Because the players was three is three years. And then US open would that be a US open five years. That's a great question. Olympics wise, like one year, one year, one year. So just the following year from the Olympics. I mean, think about, I mean, you think of Scott, I mean, Scott, he's year, one year. Just the following year from the Olympics.

I mean, think about, I mean, you think of Scott, I mean, Scott, he's never, he's only won the Masters. That's the only major he's won. So he's never gotten in off the US Open, the Open or PGA. That's a massive blight on his resume right now. Totally. We'll address that when we get to it. But current US amateur, obviously the US amateur runner up Asia Pacific, Latin America, Midam,

NCAA men's champion. Hand up. I forgot about the amateur. It would have been impossible for him. Back to Brian Harmon, another PGA tour win for him. I know he gets, he gets a lot of shit online, waggling and all that. I believe this is his fourth.

Did you look that up? I did not look it up, but I can. 1.7 million today. So he shot 66, 66 the first two rounds. He shot 72, 75. It was hard out there today. Guys. I got to say, I think Valero it's not aesthetically pleasing. It's not even really good to watch, but I respect it. It's, you respect its existence. Yeah. It's like a proper, it's a proper professional golf tournament. Like it's, it's a TPC. It's no longer named after AT&T. It's just the TPC San Antonio Oaks course now, I think.

But like, yeah, it's just like they had a single digit. It was minus nine was the lead and it was the most diverse leaderboard all week. You had bombing gouge guys. You had guys like Matt Wallace, who are really, really, really good iron players. And you had great putters. I mean, shit like Brian Harmon, Ryan Gerrard, Mav McNeely, Andrew Novak, Bud Colley. Ryan Gerrard and Brian Harmon are like two of the most opposite style players that you could possibly imagine from a skill set perspective. So I, I love a course that sets these guys up to play their game and compete on the same course instead of it just bucketing it out. You know, Hey, this is, this is a Bob and

gouge course. Cool. Like this guy doesn't have a chance this week. You might as well miss the cut, right? It was extreme. I mean, there was that wind was absolutely whipping out there. And I mean, basically everybody was going backwards from from at least that final group. I mean, Brian Harmon shot 75 today, Andrew Novak shot 76. He was the biggest threat to Harmon, but bogeyed four of his last six holes and Ryan Gerard shot 69. 69 and hottest player in the world right

now. Yeah, not a lot player in the world right now. Yeah. Not a lot of sixties on the board. After Torben Olson, yeah. Yeah. The rider cup team, Olson, 68. Honestly, how is he not on live? I, I, I thought Olson has been on live for the last several years. I totally missed that one.

I'll tell you who I was most disappointed with today. Tom Hoagy. Not sure. There's another Tom. I thought you were going to was most disappointed with today. Tom Hoagy. Not, there's another Tom. I thought you were going to say you'd be disappointed. You're not more disappointed. There's another Thomas on the board. I think you should. Hoagy 76 in the Texas wind.

I would have thought that that would have been his calling card. It's not a city. He's not, he's not ready yet. TC he'll let you know. He's not wasted on that. Do what do you have to say for Tommy shooting 81? Let's just get out of the way. T.C. I mean, Mulnaughty shot 80, Patton Kizire shot 83.

Tommy was managing his energy today. He played great. What about the tariffs, T.C.? He shot 68 first round. I think he's been working on stuff and, and I think we're going to be come out ready to rock at Augusta. This was good. You had to flush all the bad money out, right?

Like this is a, this is a good thing. Hold on. It wasn't just a bad final round 73, 74, 81. Like we're true. That's not, that's the opposite of trending there. Three rounds in a row. Yeah. Neil, you know, I see that.

I see that. I just, I think we're gonna see, I think we're gonna see who's wearing pants. All right. I just, it feels like Tommy might've been deep pants today. That's kind of the concern here. I mean, are you guys putting a lot of stock in the Valero?

Is that, is that- Only if it fits my narrative. Same, like the same way. Like for Spieth, it's, yeah, it's great. All I needed was a sign of life. He could totally happen this week. And Ludwig, yeah, it means absolutely nothing that he missed the cut. Honestly, I think I'm convinced Ludwig missed the cut on purpose.

He was in the middle of the fairway on his last hole, like 130 yards, and just didn't even sniff the green on his last hole. And I was like, cool, he's going to get an extra two days out of Augusta and just, he's going to be ready to rock. It's not like you want to do a bunch of wind battles and, and, and few, and go into Augusta with any kind of uncertainty or you don't want to shoot 81 and roll into Augusta. You don't want that is kind of where I'm going with it. Are you going to pick Tommy this week to win? I mean, we'll see.

I'll take a look. The TC way would be to pick him tonight, pick somebody else on Monday, pick somebody else on Wednesday and then Thursday morning, pick a fourth person. We'll see. You got to tune in to the shows to find out. Okay. God, TC and I were in Vegas earlier this week, sprinkling the roulette board, just like he sprinkles his picks. You had a great week. I did. We had fun in the roulette table. Just, just dumb fun. Uh,

I do want to shout out, but God, I'm so excited when I see Keith Mitchell come out and shoot 64. It feels like he's done that like six weeks in a row. I think he has. I know he's done it four weeks in a row. He just can't, but he's just the Sunday scores 76 today. It just feels like we're struggling on the weekends. I want to see a breakthrough. He's weighed down by all these meals he's having out on tour. I mean, of course by the end of the week, he's got to be exhausted. It's like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Keith's playing well. It's like the same story,

different week. So hopefully he's going to build something. I saw Daniel Berger's statistical profile today. Somebody sent it to me. I think I sent it along to you guys. It was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. It was like the all around game, right? The anti ball speed imposter, like just, just proper golfer. Like he's well balanced portfolio. It's true. It's a proper Pentagon. Yeah. T.C. any comments on the shenanigans we saw from Andrew Novak on Saturday of banging one off the grandstands on 16 to birdie range. Yeah, actually, there was a lot of shenanigans this week. I heard from some people that Keith took dangerous animal relief from fire ants and then took some of the most egregious TIO

anybody's ever seen on the next hole after that. I'd like to clarify, I've changed my stance on the fire ants after getting attacked by one, a set of them on the course that qualifies as dangerous. I, you know, I actually did it the winter park nine as well. And they, they hurt. And Bryson replied to the, I know. So last we have to adjust the record on that one. It's still a funny thing to get relief from though. I will say Novak, he brought it to my attention, which I give him a lot of credit for before his round was even over.

I think you tweeted, tweeted that you asked him for apologies. No to all you professionals out there listening, just get out in front of TC. Just just get to it before a lot of, a lot of scumbags out there. Andrew Novak, you are not one of them. You've got to, you've had a great year. Honestly, he wasn't aiming for the grandstands. There's so many I've seen scam champ do it. I've seen, there's so many, I've seen Scam Champ do it. I've seen, there's so many people that have done it.

And they just, they like, they will call their shot where he, it was a par three. He's not trying to hit it in the grandstands on a par three. I hope not at least. Well, this was the right one too, wasn't it? It wasn't the long one. And he went over and signed it afterwards. Like he was having fun with it.

Novax is showman. I'm in on the answer to Novax. Yeah. For sure. And really he's fun with it. No back to showman. I'm I'm in on the way. Yeah, I'm sure. And really, he's up. He's up to he's up to 26 and the FedEx Cup up another 18 spots. But T three this week. Mav McNeely, he shared third place with Mav McNeely, who I believe I saw is ranked now 10th in the world and the official really rankings. Yeah, he is skyrocketing up the world golf

rankings and has had a great start to 2025. Bud Colley, Solly. Big group at T5, Never Count Out, Bud Colley, Chan Kim, Patrick Fishburne, Tior Brown-Oleson, Rio Hissatoon, Chad Ramey, and Tom Hoge, all sharing. Tied for fifth. Of course, I'm not gonna read off all the T12s,

but the notable one here is Mr. Jordan Spieth, which we'll save that for tomorrow's show. We're going to do a full master's preview show. We're going to do that live on our podcast YouTube channel at 3.30 PM Eastern time on Monday. As I say that we might need to move the time, I don't know, up or down based on if there's no action tomorrow. So we're planning it for 3.30 as of now, but that was assuming that there would be a practice

round tomorrow But Sally couple couple interesting ones at t18 as well cam young and and Cory Connors Cory Connors, you know, I know a lot of Canadians out there Looking looking towards Cory Connors for for a spark and I think I mean if he doesn't win it this year This is like it feels like everything's setting up for it this year, right? Feel like everything is setting up for Cory Connors to win the Masters. I mean, many people are talking right now. Some notable missed cuts. Mr. Ludwig has mentioned Akshay Bhatia missed the cut as well. Hideki

missed the cut. Sam Burns, Max missed another cut. Anything to glean from that group? Anything to think before going into Augusta? Nothing whatsoever. Maybe Sam Burns, because this is Bermuda, right? Was it not overseated? It looked like it was overseated. They need to stop overseating everything. Like none of the Southern guys have an advantage anymore.

It is like everything's over. So many fans are outraged by this, TC. The fans, they're not even tuning in. They can't stand it. This other guys don't get their advantage. They want green TC. I mean, Brian Harmon still won that like, honestly, that makes him more impressive. I mean, right.

Um, a couple, uh, we, we talked about Keith, the joke joke. Delome asked if, if Keith Mitchell was a Thursday, Friday guy only in photo, Bob 1961, what is the concern level on Max? A lot of people are concerned about Max, his game. We've touched on this, but as we head into the Masters, I don't know if the front nine 29s today changes anything on that front, but what's your guys concern level on Max?

I'll be more concerned if he doesn't play well at Augusta. I think getting back to Augusta, friendly confines for him based on last year, concerned if he doesn't play well at Augusta. I think getting back to Augusta, you know, friendly confines for him based on last year, not a bad place to kind of work out the driver a little bit. And by like by Max's own admission, he's been, he feels like the game's pretty good. So we'll see. I don't know. I trust Max when he says like, my game's close. So we'll see. You know, the night is dark as before the dawn, gentlemen. TC, I think that's a very reasonable take.

And it totally seemed like he was in a great mood today, which is awesome to see. I'd love to just see, it doesn't feel like he's got a lot of rhythm though. Didn't seem like that at Pebble, just feels like we're searching, but you know, we're reset, we've kind of reset everything. New man on the bag, so fresh fresh start let's see what happens. It is weird that I don't think he's putting on a

front with kind of the confidence of that he you know you talk to him he's like I'm hitting great on the range I'm playing great at home it just isn't translating the competition. I've been around him enough when he's not hitting it great that like it sends off a different vibe right you know he doesn't he doesn't he's not lying when he says that hitting it great that like it sends off a different vibe, right? You know, he doesn't, he doesn't, he's not lying when he says that. Now, what does the timeline look like for taking a new swing feel, new equipment and taking it into competition where like you got the go, got to get over this hurdle of how many straight poor performances you've had is the first thing you think of when you tee it up Thursday and getting to the point where you can trust the new swing feel and not have to think about it and can just go play golf.

He's clearly not there. So people have showed up to Augusta in worse form and found and had amazing weeks. This is one of the few tournaments where you can point and say like almost nothing matters coming into it. Phil Mickelson was runner up at this tournament two years ago. Like either like this place or you don't or like, you know, something could come to life in a hurry. I don't or like, you know, something could come to life in a hurry. I don't know. I'm not necessarily banking on that. But I am bullish long run on Max. I'm not giving up on I would

say let me let me do a giraffe giraffe take care of will not pick them to win. But I could pick them to have a top 20. Finish you know what I mean? Just kind of a good finish. I can see I feel very good about a good finish. Not a not a fantastic finish. I like that we're gonna very good about a good finish, not a fantastic finish. I like that. We're going to get to Anwar here shortly. We're going to bring in our own Jordan Perez. But AT&T has a new guarantee because most things in life are not guaranteed. Like actually getting the rental car you requested. Did you get the rental car you requested today?

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I'm honored to be back on the program to talk about the best week of the year, in my opinion. And congrats, congrats to your Florida Gators for advancing to the National Championship Game. Yeah, awesome win. And Sally's Florida Gators by extension. Exactly right. Tell us a little bit about, was Carla on your radar coming into this week as one of the

favorites for the listeners that aren't as inclined to following women's amateur golf? Tell us a little bit about her and what the expectations were for her going into the week. Yeah, Carla was not exactly on my radar, but I did mention on the preview podcast we did earlier in the week that at times there tends to be a winner of this event who is on absolutely no one's radar. And credit to Carla, she is having a great collegiate season that's not against any merit at all. I mean, she is a great player, started her college career out at Tulane and wound up at Kansas State. It's under the tutelage of Stu Burke, who has had a really incredible coaching career, started at USC and went to

Tulane and now is at Kansas State and has been with Carla her entire career. She's had that dog in her for a while. I just don't know that it ever came out. I don't know that there was necessarily a BD win under her belt, but she slowly but surely had a pretty good collegiate career. It was interesting. I was looking back at her history in this event, which really stood out to me. So she missed the cut in 2022, was not invited in 2023, got in last

year in 2024 because Tsubasa Kajitani withdrew. And then in 2024, actually last year, she shot a first round 78, then made the cut around two with a 69 and probably one of the most difficult days I've ever seen Champions Retreat play. So proved that she had some dog last year. Didn't really have a remarkable final round by any stretch, finished T17, but came in into this year and was the first player ever to have rounds in the 60s, 68, 68, 68.. I, you know, I can get to complaining about the broadcast shortly, but wish we would have gotten to see her journey a little bit more earlier in the week. But she played some incredible golf on Saturday and it was poised. It was consistent. She minimized her mistakes and I, I was just, I was just in awe. I think

that's, that's one of the best final rounds we've ever seen out there. It was so captivating that the back nine because she was not shy at all about basically displaying for the world how nervous she was. For sure. Like 18T, the biggest exhale after she hit the fairway. She almost acted like she won the tournament just by hitting the fairway on 18. I was kind of like, ah, man, you got to kind of hit the lower tier there to have an easy two putt. And she had to make a four footer to win, but she birdied 13 and 15 on the back nine. And maybe, I don't know if NBC flexes a little bit different camera angles or, you know, if it's just the effect that Augusta National has on like women's amateurs versus top male

professionals in terms of what kind of an effect an awkward lie can have, but the lie she had in 13 fairway. And again, maybe it's just her stature. She's a shorter person. How far that ball was above her feet and how awkward that lie look off the down slope to still hit that shot, hit the fade you kind of needed to and hold up that green. And again, that display of emotion afterwards, it was good TV. This tournament just continues to kind of raise the bar every single year.

And it just felt like NBC was just humming with bones out there for there's nobody that knows. We have, do we have some dissension Jordan? I think she's saying early, early rounds coverage. Lacking of Carla. But I thought when they got to Augusta, it was, uh, you know, when, when NBC, when NBC puts forth an effort and gives a shit, they can, they can do some stuff. It was the same thing at Pebble a couple of years ago. We're like, Hey, we know you're capable of it and you guys are good when, you know, the suits can get out of your way

here. Jordan, I have a question for you as a, for the untrained viewer. I saw a lot of Spanish flags on the leaderboard. Yeah. Is that something that I should know about? Are we running a good national program, you know, women's amateur program in Spain? A Spanish winner was due for this event, honestly. It really was a long time coming.

I mean, there's a lot of great Ams out there. I mean, namely Paula Martin San Pedro, Andrea Wovalta had a great week as well. You know, there are always Spanish players in contention at this event or lurking in some way. And Carla being the one to emerge was so sick. But yes, to answer your question, yeah, there are a lot of Spanish women's amateurs out there that are getting good and they're only getting better. Little birdie told me that, uh, Carla was, uh, like raised at the same course that the reigning

U S amateur champion played out as well before they both left for Sergio Garcia's Academy as well. Yes. Jose by his stare. Yeah. Yeah. What a calling card for that little town, right? Totally.

Yeah. Our us am champ and the Augusta National Women's Examiner champion, both Spaniards. Well, both Spaniards, but both from the same, like I think it's a tiny, tiny town. Yeah. Which is crazy. I believe they both played tennis as well before they played

golf. There you go. Multi-sport athletes, Neil. Love that. We're specializing too much in this country. Carla's biggest threat holds out on the opening day. What ends up being her biggest threat was Astros Talley, eagled the first hole at Augusta National on Saturday to start the day, gave it back with two bogeys on the front nine, made a late charge with a birdie on

16 and a ridiculous birdie from the trees on 17. You know, as Carla's coming up behind her and dumps it in the bunker on 17, it just, it got tight really late. But what's, what's, what's, what's your take here on, on asterisk tally? This is a name we've heard a lot. She was runner up the U S women's ammeter last year. Now the runner up here at the Augusta national women's ammeter. What do people need to know about her? She's giving me Rory syndrome where I get really upset that she's coming up short, She's giving me Rory syndrome where I get really upset that she's coming up short, actually legitimately moved by it. And that's not to say that she's not had some really tough competition all these times. She had to play Rianne Malikse, who was probably playing some of the best golf in the entire

world last summer. One Sage Valley, so I'm not going to take that away from her. And then comes into this annual final round climbing, climbing, and climbing against Carla Bernay, who just came out of somewhat not really nowhere. I mean, she was lurking once again, but yeah, I look at a player like Astor's Tally and her age, I mean, being 16 and it's just, I've felt this way for like a whole year where it's like, I don't see a weakness in your game at all if there is one. And I was very excited when she said after her round on Saturday that she really wants to go to college. And I thought it was even cooler. I was, I'm sorry

to not credit who had written about this. I can't remember off the top of my head that she said that she goes to normal high school. She doesn't do online school. She goes to normal high school. So shout out asterisk for actually being a normal kid and balancing junior golf, high level junior golf. That's so sick. But yeah. Not even junior golf, high level amateur, just straight up amateur golf. Yes. Yes. So I, again, hope we keep seeing more asterisk tally because she is kind of a generational talent. She's proving that to be so. And I, she'll get hers. I mean,

I think, you know, Sage Valley was an incredible one, but I think she will get an amateur win one of these days and on her resume before she's at least 18. Yeah. I mean, like is it way too early, obviously, to talk about favorites for next year and a lot can unfold over the next year. But if you had to set the odds for next year, considering some players going pro, would she be the favorite for this next year, do you think?

I think so, between her and someone like Ellie Lidsky. She's got two more years, too. Like, even if she doesn't go to college, she's still got two more years, right? It's crazy. Yep. She could win the next right? It's crazy. She could win the next tool.

It's crazy. Is she have plans to play in the LPGA events as an amateur in the short term? I'm putting you on the spot with some of these, but I'm just, it seems like we're dealing with a, a mega star young talent here. A predator. I think she takes these exemptions as they come. Yeah. I mean, I don't, you know, she has played professionally in the past

and last year she played in the US Women's Open. So, you know, I think, I don't think that's, this isn't certainly not the last of Astros tally that we'll see. I mean, she just, wow. And what a week for her. I don't know. I would really be torn between Astros

and Ella Golitsky for next year. Which Ella Golitsky shot 66 and she pulled a Patrick Reed afterwards to say, I mean, it was sick saying it should have been, she's, I think of her quote was it should have been 10 or 12 under with how many putts she missed just was like completely disinterested with her 66 and it was 500 through eight. Just absolutely stuffing the pinata on that one. Lottie Wode came in with high expectations that fun around just did not. I think she was having a great time out there.

Set that to the slack. Just not having a bad time. Very about content tendencies out there. Lost her swing kind of on that back nine, but you just kind of hate to see that shot 72 finished solo third and three back of course, last year's champion that just beat the door down. It felt like this year, like all the good players played good. Everybody that was, it was, you know, there's a few there that, you know, like few college players that, that like didn't play well for an

endoscopy of Poggio, but otherwise, everybody, even like Gianna Clemente, T16, Megagone, 63 first round. Catherine Park, I'm buying all the stock on Catherine Park. Thank you. Welcome. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to pay you rent. My HOA fees and the Catherine park are going towards you. But yeah, I mean, it just seemed like everybody kind of peaked at the right time this year. And I don't think that's been the case really at all the last few years, as far as animals gone. Right? I tweeted something earlier this week where I was like, there's two wolves inside of me

that either really want round two to be as diabolical as possible or to have the best possible leaderboard on Saturday and the ladder wolf was winning. And maybe I'll stay there. I don't know. What do we learn about Augusta? Those are obviously some question marks about the golf course heading into this week. There's four new greens, allegedly, you know, some trees down. Anything look different to you guys from from watching it on TV? I think behind 15, like having only one tree back there, it looks a little lonely. You know, I think there's a few behind 11, like looking down the camera view we got of Lottie Wode going

into 11 with 12 green in the distance and no trees now in between those two greens. And that view was, I do not recall ever seeing that at Augusta. I welcome like, I don't know. I think we've gotten to a point with Augusta to where it's almost like I was looking at, you know, retro for like photographs of Augusta this week. And I feel like everybody wants Augusta to be stuck in time. And they want it to be the same every year when we return to it. Augusta needs to look the same. Augusta is Augusta. And it's like, this is

a golf course and this is a dynamic golf course in history. And this is a, this is an evolving organism or evolving, you know, thing that's just a piece of woods. And so I dig it when there's a shock to the system every few years of, hey, you know what? Yeah, nothing's permanent here. And we can't play God. Augusta changes as well. And I think that's a cool thing. And I think people need to lean into that. I would encourage Augusta to redesign the 16th hole to be the original 16th hole and not the current 16th hole. Even just seeing the way that the course has developed, it could be so much better than it is if people are cool with tinkering with it and making it, like leaning into it being a living it and making it like leaning into it being a living, you know, kind of organism instead of just know everything like

this is Augusta and it's, it's at this, this level every year, nothing ever changes. I have a couple holes I put in front of 16. But I agree with your point, generally. Well, supposedly 16 green, they say it's exactly the same. A little birdie that I spoke with today said, he thinks that like the upper right slope of that one and like the front of that, the way the balls behave,

how usually if a ball feeds off the upper shelf, it just goes left. That balls have been seen to come off the front of the green coming off of that slope. So the shape of the front of that is less like tilting towards the left and more kind of back towards just funny things. I was watching some highlights from the 2015 Masters, speed, when obviously, and like it just, you know, you show up and oh, five is longer this year and oh, they lengthened to this year. That's interesting.

And they linked them. Oh my God, they've done so much work since 2015. I mean, the first hole was a three, like a 445. Now it's like 475. They moved a road to move back to that tee. Two has moved back. Just keep going of all these holes that used to be these little bunt holes that are now just going back, back, back, back, back. And I think that's the thing for me is like, we can talk about this on the live shows this week, but holes like five, seven, 11, there's just, I don't know. And like Jeff Shackelford had a really good piece last week on just Augusta generally and even walking the golf course. He was like, yeah, it's

like maybe the greatest walk in golf from the members' tees. And you're on grass the whole way, except for you hit asphalt twice playing the golf course. And it's like that, that just made me think of, man, like thinking about crossing asphalt on a golf course of if you didn't have to cross out, like if you were just on grass or pine straw the entire time, how cool would that be? Right? I don't know. Just details like that, I guess. Where are you crossing asphalt? Be 11 T to the fairway and 18T to the fairway.

Okay, yeah. I see on 18. And 15, you go behind the, from the back seas, there's a couple more times, at least one more time you would cross asphalt. But it's like, man, if you're after perfection, like those are imperfections, right? There you go. But the last, just one thing there. They are changing the golf course, just not in ways that you can see it.

No, I know, but that's the thing. No, but I'm making your point for you. Yeah, exactly. I agree with you completely TC. It's like everyone thinks they're not, no, they don't do anything. It's like, no, they do a ton to it. They just, you know, they don't really talk about it. Artificial man, like manicure, manufactured thing in the world.

And it's like, cool. Then like, like, I think that that should give Ridley the free reign to bring it, like make Augusta as good as it can be and bring back some of that rough, hewn Mackenzie stuff and make, make it look like more of a Mackenzie again, is all I'm asking. Yeah. I don't think that's going to happen with again, technology, but we can get that week and spend some time on that one. is all I'm asking. Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen with, again, technology. We can get it that week and spend some time on that one.

But any other thoughts on broadcast NBC or just kind of the TV product as a whole? Anybody else have anything to add in on that one? I don't know. I didn't like the broadcast windows early in the week for Anwar. It just felt like we missed most of the story, especially during round two when the leaders had basically

finished their rounds right as soon as they went on air. So it just, that was really stinky. And it's like, we get such a great product on Saturday of the final round of Van Waa that it really deserves that build up. And I just also don't really know, don't really understand what we're competing with on Wednesday and Thursday, but alas, I guess that's for me to shout into the void about. Is there, was there streaming anywhere on top of the TV coverage or online anything outside of the TV windows? No, no, it just was that TV window.

I feel like I saw more pictures of champions retreat this year. Even in the past, it's almost felt like this just black box. Okay. We're not going to show that at all even on social. And I feel like they actually showed it a little bit on social this year and like acted like it was part of the tournament instead of just this weird prelude or prologue qualifier. It's a qualifier, essentially. Keep your scores as you go into, uh, into Augusta, but wish.

All right. Can we just do the, how, how was the drive ship and putt today? Uh, we, yeah, we, you know, travel, travel day for us. Um, I watched a little bit. I heard some things. I heard some aim point things, a lot of, you know, junior golf parents out there, which I think Augusta point things, a lot of, you know, junior golf parents out there, which I think Augusta needs to put a, put a hard stop on all of that. I believe someone said that one of the 13 year olds think that would think their sponsor. Yeah. Like that makes me like not want to wake up tomorrow. I mean, like that's, it's master's week tomorrow. Come on.

It's insane. Sorry. It's hard to rattle you like that. It's gonna be tough for me to transition into an ad after that one. Jordan, last question for you. Any player or players that you look at differently after this week, either for better or for worse? I mean, Carla's the obvious takeaway here, but anybody else stick out of your opinion change on any specific player? You know, going back to what TC said about everybody who was good playing well this week, it's almost like I come out of it just like strengthened in my opinions of very high level

players. Once again, very in on asterisk tally. I want to go back to Lottie Wode just very briefly. I'm sorry. I won't go on too long. I think Lottie Wode had the obvious pressure of being the defending champion, but she is the first player to ever really be playing for their LPGA card this week, because she was virtually four points away on the lead standings, would have gotten two by winning this week, and then would have gotten exemptions and so forth into events that she could have either made the cut

or had a top 25 in, and thus would have probably met that threshold based on how good she is. And so I think that lingering in the back of her mind, plus being self-aware enough to admit, hey, my planning is not where it should be. Hey, you know, I, you know, yes, I'm the defending champion, but there are a lot of other good players in this field this week. All things that she said earlier in the week, I just confirms my belief that we have the rightful number one player in the world.

And I remain so in on Lottie Wode. And I still think even with that back nine, she still had a good week. That's well said. I was a little dismissive just based on what we saw in third place finish after winning the prior year. That speaks to the point. The talent is. Yeah. No, no, no. Not even that. That we don't get the full story. We don't get the whole story. There's no buildup. It's like, oh, yeah, she seems like she's in a bad mood. That's you and I like we're we're the problem. It's like a bad three hole stretch.

Yeah, exactly. Like, oh, man, she's grumpy. It's not fair. Come on. It sticks out to me because I'm like, oh, I see that in my. Yeah, I know. That's me too. I'm like, yeah, I get what she's going on. That's why people give out of these five footers, man. Also, firm in my belief that Kiara Romero was robbed of a Curtis Cubs spot. There we go. Oh, yeah. Hit him up. Also, do the ladies get get crystal for Eagles?

Because I felt like there was a lot of Eagles. There were a lot out there. I don't know. We could have to, I have to chase that, that, that question down for you, TC. Yeah, that that's, yeah, we'll, we'll get you an answer to that, but Jordan, thanks so much. Thanks Jordan for hopping on late on a Sunday evening. And for all your coverage of the Anma crack on.

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guys start wearing it and I'm immediately on there like I got to get that. I'm gonna be honest with you. We're starting to Pro Shop starting to compound. We got some good stuff. Just just in time for the season to hit. Yeah, no, we got ahead of that. We placed a couple big orders right before they hit TC. Yeah. No, we got ahead of that. We placed a couple of big orders right before they hit TC. Moving on from that one, the LPGA T-Mobile match play. It was such a weird experience watching this finale. We're trying to get ready for the show and watch what we could. Young hitter,

Lauren Coughlin facing young hitter, Madeline Sagstrom in the final round of the championship. Young hitter of Marys. Once a young hitter, always a young hitter in the championship match out at Shadow Creek. Listen, was that the best golf either of them have played? No. Was that way too much golf for them both to have played? Absolutely. I believe Lauren's whole count was in the 130s for this pass.

Well, I thought 126 to 121. That could be exactly right. Every single match that she played hit 18. And then she played some play on his call. Ridiculous, but she ran through her path was beating Stephanie Kiriakou in the quarter. She beat Seon Kim in the round of 16 and then beat Eri Jutanagarn one up in the semis, Madeline beat Angel Yin.

There's a lot of, uh, we've done content with all four of the, of the, of the final four in the match play. We were, we were going to have a match play rules like this, like shadow Creek, it's hard as shit. It's good TV when they do show it, they don't really put anything into it. We'll take that offline, but I just think generally speaking, like this, this is a really good event. And I think it should be one of the, like the more centerpieces of the LPGA tour. And granted, like I'm glad as well, because in the past, it's been Chevron up against ANWA as well. So this is a step in the right direction that it's not an LPGA major, you know, clashing against Sanwa. But overall, I mean, God, Lauren, like we were texting with her earlier, she's

exhausted. Like, I mean, she played what 70, she played 73 holes, I think the last, like in the last, I don't know, 36 hours. And then it's crazy. It's like a hundred hole hike. Yeah. Big golf course. It's such a compliment to her that it just felt like it feels very normal to be watching her battle for LPGA titles and shout to Madeline section. This was her to your surprise her second career LPGA title. Yeah, it was I was a surprise by that. I mean, she's so she hits

it so good. I was shocked that she didn't have more wins but massive Congrats to Madeline. Like, I mean, we didn't know who to root for. It was, it was very, and they were both struggling. So we were like, it was, it was like hard to watch. You're like, oh man, they're both so tired. They're just kind of slapping around there in the middle of the round. Yeah.

And good, good result for Madeline. Like she hasn't, she hasn't done anything so far this year. I know she had a solo second at the founders last year, but otherwise like kind of a, kind of a lean year for last year too. And so, yeah, I don't know. Madeline, like Madeline, in my opinion is the top 10 or 15 ball striker in the world. So I'd like to see her get back in that, you know, top 15, top 20 in the rankings. That has to be such a hard course too, to play that much golf on. I mean, it is really challenging.

The greens were so slick. Those slopes were so pronounced. It was, uh, yeah. Mac attack 17 asked should, should shadow Creek hold a major, maybe a PGA? Honestly, that would like, I would be in for a PGA there over like a vol holla or I don't know. Again, I think you'd go back to the. May is tough.

May is. No, I was gonna say the infrastructure. Yeah. Like for grandstands, like the things they do out there are like kind of smaller crowds match it, you know, even this match play, you can spread the crowds out. Yeah, I mean, you couldn't do a major there, but it would be sick.

Couldn't do a men's major, but I don't mean to diminish women's majors to say like, I think you could do a women's major, but I don't mean to diminish women's majors to say like you, I think you could do a women's major there. Like in terms of the crowd, the crowd. Yeah, women's LPGA, but like you wouldn't want to do that in June. Right. Like the LPGA. Well, grow this thing so where you can't do a major at Shadow

Creek, because you can't handle the crowds. Well, to TC's point, like there are there isn't a good, there's not a major played in, in a time period that would make sense to be in Vegas. Like, cause it's about as late in the year that you'd want to play a major in Vegas. Cause when they had, when they've had this event there in May, it's a disaster from the heat. Yeah. Like props to the LPGA though. Cause this has been, it was a disgrace the last couple of years, them going to that, or I think just last year, they went to a stroke play kind of 36 hole qualifier thing,

I think, and like that sucked. Like it's like play, play pods or play pool play or whatever. Don't, don't do that. So, but good, you know, I think LPGA is off this coming week and then they're back in LA and then they've got Chevron after that. So good, good stretch. And then they go to black desert.

I will watch, I'll watch the hell out of that. Yeah. Really LPG. This is like the fifth start of the LPGA season, but this is when it starts to get really good and interesting. But congrats to Madeline Sagstrom. If you, if you have not checked it out, if you have not checked it out, we have a video called a week in the life. The first one we ever did was with Madeline following her around during game bridge in Orlando there. And it's amazing. I mean, it's such a great, such a great final video. And she was

awesome. And it's Shane Codd or caddy still in the bag with her. And they were just awesome with their time and effort into that one as well. And then Lauren, yeah, just continues to just produce, produce, produce. Her golf swing's so good and we're really proud of her. I mean, it's just awesome to have followed her from Epson tour days to now just like very regular being on women's golf's biggest stages and performing unbelievably well. We thought we were going to cut it out. Incredible comeback from four down in the championship to get to one up. But, you know, I think the fatigue finally caught up with her and all the extra golf, but she just texted 127 holes. Jesus. 127. So I was one off and shout out Lauren, new caddy. I think

he's been on the bag for a week or two. So love seeing that little honeymoon phase going on with that, with that partnership. Love it. All right. TC takes you to your day. TC live Dural. Take us there. No, I woke up. Party doctor called me. He said, Hey, do you want to go to live Dural? I said, I don't know. Like, do I? Yeah. So he's like, Hey, we got a seat, flew down to live, Doral got there. Got that place is so hard guys. Like, and like not in a good way, like not in a, not in like an endearing way of like, like I, I never, I'd never been in Doral before. I think I'm good on Doral. Where is it? Like, where is it? It's like right next to the airport. Okay. Right. So Miami airport. Okay. And it says like, it's like, I think just northwest of the Miami airport. And yeah, it's

just, it's like an, it's just like, if you stretched out like a Bermuda grass muni to 8,000 yards, and then the wind just blows and blows and blows. Like it was blowing 15, 20 all day. And I guess this was the calmest day of the week down there. But Leash was two behind or three behind heading into the final round. Bryson was up and we're all big, big, big Leash fans. Steve Lear, Maddie, Maddie Kelly, Leash's caddy, his father-in-law,law, put together a group to go down and Leish got his first live victory.

He played awesome, played great golf. Everybody else just didn't even wilt. It was just really hard. Leish, I think that's some of the best golf I've ever seen him play between masters. He you know, like, and it's like, you just kind of, and like, he just kind of won going away. So, you know, Schwarzel and Garcia kind of tried to make it into a contest at the end. But I mean, it was, it's like, they weren't even using the back tee on 18. And it was like 479 or 480 straight into the fan with like the water all at the left and the palm trees all at the right.

And then, you know, and then Yasser's there. Yasser's, Yasser's hanging out with Yasser's girl. I think maybe the most attractive human being I've ever seen before. I mean, it was just, it was the one of the weirdest vibes anywhere I've ever been. I didn't wake up expecting to go to live Miami today. So how was the crowd and how was the DJ? Oh my God. Uh, crowd was, it was not as big as the live Chicago or live just outside Chicago

that I went to. Uh, that was a much bigger crowd. This was, you know, but there were, there were plenty of people there. They just weren't as spread out on the golf course. It was very kind of concentrated around nine and 18. The loudest music is probably where the fans congregated. I would have to assume in my. Yeah. Music was, it was really down tempo this time, Neil. Like not, it was very Miami. What else? The cliques, they had their garden party, stopped by there. Nobody was there. It was, it was deserted. The cliques

had, there were all sorts of like, like the cliques, the whole new rebrand looks like, just like bad AI impressionism. I hate that for your squad. The merch, the merch said there wasn't, there wasn't as much going on in the merch tent. It's so funny just like to think of, I mean, in little bits, it's not that funny. I'm like, oh yeah, the cliques are rebranding and here's a new image. And then like to seriously talk about the fact that it's crazy. Like the ninth best live franchise that nobody cares about is going through a rebrand that they're the CEO, the former CEO of Minecraft is like their manager or something. And he wants to, he said he wants the brand to be like a Yankees

style brand. Yeah. Lifestyle. Roger's had this, this post, every word of this headline came as a surprise to me. The headline is Minecraft CEO seeks to make lives cliques into Yankees like brand. Like what? Whoa. Truly like a lot of Minecraft. Huh? Wow. That's interesting.

Yeah. No, I mean, I'm proud of the cliques today. They, they, they shop, they shot one over today, which was, I think it was like the third or fourth best today. Ripper, Ripper one going away. They beat the shit out of everybody. The cliques finished the week at plus 47. It was tied with the brain. It was, dude, I'm telling you, it was so, and it's all four scores count. Now it was so hard.

Like, like, like, Majestics plus 50. Leashman went bogey free today. Like I haven't looked, but that's gotta be the only bogey free round out there. It was that grass so grainy and just, Oh, the range goats can't get it together either, man. What happened to Neiman? Gooch. Yeah. Gooch was, I mean, we had some bad rounds.

You see the cliques got four points this year. What is going on? It's been a terrible year. I guess this guy from Florida state, cat Europe, not good. He's bad. Well, this is a terrible course for Blandy. Not good. But we have heard you met your hero. Did you meet Blandy? Yeah. I ran into him in the locker room. We had these passes just going everywhere and kind of like, you know, rumbled into Blandy and then, uh, did you say hi or did you take it? I just kind of shake his hand. Hey, Richard. Richard, huge fan.

You're my guy. I mean, Blandy, he didn't have a good week, so I didn't want to, you know, take up too much of his time. He shot 74 today. I mean, the Majestics had two guys in the 80s. They were plus 50 for the week. Oh, now you want to talk about guys shooting in the 80s all of a sudden. Yeah. So, no, it was, I'd never been to Dural before.

Man, what a strange place that was. And then, yeah, just seeing all the dudes like, so, you know, like you guys were talking about guys playing Augusta tonight. Like Phil was, Phil was grinding to get up to Augusta. But I will say from like a leaderboard perspective, Schwarzel, Sergio, Bryson, Nicholson, Reid. It's interesting. Pam, like they all, in ROM, they all finished in the top 10. Sergio's interesting this week.

Yeah, Sergio's playing really good golf right now. Very interesting. I mean, I swear to God, all I was looking for was like a hint of something from Phil this week to be just throw that on the radar. I mean, very seriously, very seriously. Yeah, he shuts he like he was three under first round, pretty much all the guys, the one guy that didn't play well that I was looking looking to play well, it was Joaquin. Uh, Joaquin was T 33, you know, shut nine over for the week.

Usually saves that for the major championships, but it's unfortunate. I mean, Bryson solo fifth is inch. I mean, he was playing well going into this event last year, going to the masters last year and nobody really wanted to believe it. And yeah, Reed T seven. It's, it's interesting. It's all very interesting heading into this. That was like, I will say like, that was a good, like, I know it's, I know it's overseen dry up at Augusta, but that was a good test of golf this week. That was, I mean, it's pretty similar to Valera. Like those were both very, very difficult golf courses.

And guys, guys got to figure out what they need to work on. Like Phil was, Phil was locked in. Yeah. And I'll just say this as a good test of golf, the cliques did not pass that test at plus 47. Neither did the range goats. The goats had all their shit at the FBO afterwards. What happened to smash man? They fell off too. They got one point this year. Yeah. The aces are kind of back though.

I mean, kind of, they're in fifth. Fireballs have taken over the lead. It's always fun to check in on these standings once a month because it's just, it's not something I follow closely. I miss this, but who's, you know, who you picking out of the live contingent? Who's, who's your favorite right now? It's always going to be Rom. I mean, he's still freaking, I know,

a guy or a refuse to refuse to non Rom category. Just the best finisher of the live group. Yeah. Honestly, man, I'm going to say Phil. I was gonna say P Reed. I mean, he, he constantly, I cannot emphasize enough how. I was gonna say P. Reed. I mean, he constantly puts up results. I cannot emphasize enough how baggy P. Reed's pants are. It was crazy. Their elite collection. I mean, they look like something,

they look like Jenko's. In fact, in the checks. Anything else stick out from this experience? No, I mean, I don't know, one of our buddies who has a plane, we flew down and we're in the FBO afterwards and just seeing, seeing all that shit lined up and like our plane got out before Phil's plane and Phil was not happy. He was not happy about that. Like it was, it was like a traffic jam.

It was like rush hour. And so you had Bubba waiting in there. You had Phil. Oh God. What did you, what did you, what did you, what did you, you're killing me reputation. I don't have any friends with planes. TC has friends with players. Metaverse. I was home in 57 minutes. What a way to live. How to hat and play. What about him? He's not good. Hatton did not play good. He was

t 33 plus nine shot 200 today. But no, not good. Yeah. Yeah. Schwartz, I mean, Swartz, obviously a master. Take off. Yeah, he was he was low round of the day today. I mean, He was low round of the day today. Non-live category on Hill Cabrera. I smell one of the chambers coming into the, to the masters. Jesus.

Well, it'd be worse for Augusta. You want their win or he won. Yeah. One by two. Yeah. The jail already. I'm not, I'm not James Hardy pro football hall of fame, invitational. That's what it was. I won by two. Yeah. The James Hardy. I'm not, I'm not James Hardy, pro football hall of fame, invitational. That's what it was. I should have known. Of course, of course the pro football hall of fame,

invitational is in Boca Raton, not in, not in Canton, Ohio. I just have one other news item for the week. If you guys are ready to move off the, uh, the pro golf for now. Um, which is that according to the guardian, I believe this was first reported by the Guardian, the PGA tour has rejected a live offer. And after Monahan famously saying multiple times, they're not going to negotiate in public, they appear to be negotiating in public very clearly now. But article says Saudi Arabia's public investment fund failed to attempt to persuade the PGA tour to deliver serious concessions. F an attempt, not an attempt. They failed in an attempt,

excuse me, to deliver serious concessions in exchange for a $1.5 billion investment, leaving elite golf no closer to reconciliation just days before the season's first major. The PGA Tour's stance will give credence to the rising sense that the organization has increasing confidence in its position after a turbulent period caused by the formation of the Saudi back live tour sources indicated in correspondence sent to the PGA tour last week. PIF sought assurances. The live circuit would continue to operate and its governor Yasser Al Ramiyan would take a place as co-chairman of PGA tour enterprises. In exchange, the PIF would invest $1.5 billion in PGA tour enterprises.

And the 1.5 has been planned to match identical investment from the US-based strategic sports group. PGA Tour replied to PIF's demands on Monday with neither deemed acceptable. Those with detailed knowledge of the situation stressed reunification of golf as the PGA Tour's core aim, a matter that is hardly assisted by live continuing in its present form. There should would also be understandable unease within the PGA Tour should Ramiyan, whose organization has bankrolled live, be afforded such a prominent position as the breakaway tour continues on its own path. That was the key parts of the article. Neither deemed acceptable. I'm going to start saying that to my wife. Hey, do you want to do

this? No. No, do you want to do this? No, neither deemed acceptable. I'm going to start saying that to my wife. Hey, do you, Hey, you want to do this? No, no. Do you want to do this? No, neither deemed acceptable. I would say though, it's, it's always funny how, how words matter. You could take demands and turn it into like live. You could solve, you live proposed this and the P you know what I'm saying? Like they're using words that insist that it's a contentious and, uh, it is contentious. Well yeah, maybe, but I'm just, I'm just, I'm kind of reading

through that and I'm like, were they demanding it or is that just like a, no, we're not going to, as I understand it from well-placed sources with among this, like it is like a non-negotiable for like the team golf continue in some way or that live continue in some way. Like that is the thing. And like, yeah, it doesn't make any sense for the PG tour to agree to something that would have live continue in its current form. Like I, sure. You know, I, I've been, could you do it in the fall?

I think you could do a silly season in the fall. I don't think that, I don't think that's, I don't think that's live continuing in its current form. I think that's a different thing. And it's current form is the key phrase. Yeah. Which like as hard as I've been on the tour for not getting something done, it's hard to, as more details of this come out of like live, having wildly unreasonable valuation of their own product and insisting that it continue leads to a pretty easy. So what happens? So now some of these guys, their contracts are up. We've heard about Bryson getting his, like, you know, Liv owns, or the Piff owns his NIL basically, so they're getting the money from his YouTube. I believe they're getting somewhere in the range of 75%.

That's what we've heard in terms of, like, the same ownership percentage they have of the crushers, they get that kind of revenue from YouTube, which I'm sure has something to do with him not doing the live duels thing, which I did not. Yeah, I was a little duals. And well, it was supposed to come out Saturday night. I think they realized Saturday night that the final four was going on. So then they, they delayed the coming out until Sunday morning. I was not able to watch any of it. At last. I looked, we peaked

at it earlier. Neil, watch the whole thing. No, I was, it looked, it was an hour and 40. It looked, I was a little slow. Was Gabby Goldberg involved? No, no, it was a tighter group. You're slow and that's where your mind goes? Your guy, Bobdo Sports was saying the Cliques is his least favorite team. No, that was the comedian, Andrew, whatever. I walked in on that part. He said the Range Goats were his favorite team.

And the least favorite team name was the cliques. Um, so that felt a little point. Uh, the, uh, let's see. Yeah. Tough, tough tee shots off the first tee. Wesley Brian hit in the water. George Brian hit in the water, which I we've heard now that Wesley Brian suspended for a year for participating in live duals. Uh, it should be suspended from the live too. Uh, and And a lot of stuff was flying around that like live, like creators were suspended by the PGA tour for doing this,

which. That sounded like some blustering on the tour side that wasn't actually going to. Well, I think it was tied to like, if they wanted to accept a sponsor's invite to a tournament, then they would not be., then they would not be eligible to if they competed in outside events, which is a ridiculous rule, but it wasn't like. They're not members of the tour.

I know, but that's been their thing. You don't have to be, even if you're a non-member of the tour, if you could participate and live, you're suspended for a year, which I've never understood. The tour's just not ready for, they don't have creator guidelines, TZ. This is uncharted territory. We can't control these guys. They need a creator HR handbook. There wasn't like, you can't create anymore. You can't create for one year if you play

the live one. And that of course got picked up by all the worst people you could ever imagine and made it to complete bullshit. I saw your guy, Clay Travis, playing Pro-Am this week too. Swing's looking good. He's got it slotted. Anyways, that's going to be about it for tonight. We have made a goal to keep tonight tight knowing we have six shows coming this week. Again, we will be live on the No Laying Up podcast, YouTube channel, 3.30 Monday to preview the, we've never done the master's preview live.

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