No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - 996: Saigo in Houston, Novak & Griffin at Zurich, and Joaco wins LIV Mexico City

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

Mao Saigo beats four others in a playoff in Houston at the Chevron Championship, Andrew Novak and Ben Griffin at Zurich, and Joaquin Niemann in Mexico City. We run down them all, tackle news and notes, play some games, and more. Presented by High Noon. Support our sponsors: High Noon - Sun's Up! FootJoy - HyperFlex ServPro - Like it never even happened NLU x Evans Scholars: https://secure.wgaesf.org/site/Donation2?df_id=2540&mfc_pref=T&2540.donation=form1 If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining⁠⁠ The Nest⁠⁠: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at ⁠⁠nolayingup.com/join⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So winners from around the world appreciate that. Thank you, Dej. Mal Sigo wins the Chevron Championship we have Ben Griffin and Andrew Novak win on the PJ tour at the Zurich got Joaquin Nieman Wins live Mexico City also known as live to Poltopec on the DP World Tour Marco Pinge wins the high non classic Interestingly enough. He was suspended earlier this year for three months for betting on golf and now comes back to win on the DP World Tour Johnny Kiefer doing stuff on the corn ferry tour as well. He wins the Veritex Bank Championship we are going to start with the Chevron. Randy, I don't know how we start with Miles Saigo. Do we have to start with Area Jutanigarn? Where do we go with this?

Four other things you can start with almost. It's crazy. I... Listen, I don't think Miles Saigo won it as much as Area Jutanigarn did not win it. And then I think even running in did not. Oh my god. I don't know she had an eagle putt so five way playoff. It was total madness coming down. Aria. Yeah, let's start there. So, Aria looked like she was in control. One of the few women today that really jumped out

was making birdies, I believe had an eagle even on her front nine, got it all the way to 10 under par. And then listen, she just has difficulty closing tournaments. Even when she was dominating, it was a bugaboo for her. This is something that's been written about, talked about, is her fight with the mental game coming down the stretch trying to close out tournaments.

And we saw it today. I mean, she bogeyed 13 was kind of the start, the par five. Just to put that into perspective, for those that don't remember the 2018 US Women's Open, she had a seven shot lead on the back nine, and that one went into a playoff for her to win that one over H.J. Kim. Like it was one of the most unreal collapses we've ever seen. And so, you know, that is the kind of the context we're watching this back nine through. And man, did it get shaky really, really quickly. through and man did it get shaky really really quickly. And even more than that just to add to it I mean she finished bogey bogey bogey many years ago at the what was the ANA to lose. She triple bogeyed an old LPGA Thailand event on the 72nd hold to lose that like

it it has always been a struggle and we just saw it today like she didn't really ever look comfortable. I gotta give her credit because after she bogeyed uh thirteen she made some really good up and downs on fourteen fifteen and

sixteen pretty comfy par on the par three seventeenth but then Sally we get to eighteen and she plays the first two shots pretty standard, you know, hits three wood. I don't know if it was three wood, three wood. No, the tee shot was not standard, Big. All she's got to do is avoid this tree. That's right. She didn't rope it around the tree. She hits it right through the tree, gets so lucky that this thing misses the tree, gets down the fairway and again setting the scene for what was going on. I think on either the 13th or 14th hole, their group is put on the clock.

And for those that aren't familiar, the LPGA Tour has a new pace of play policy. Whereas, and they tried to explain it and they did a terrible job explaining it. And how I understand it is, if your average shot time is more than five seconds over the allowed time, then you are penalized one stroke. And I don't know if that's per hole, or if that's summing up all the holes, all this, but she's gotta play the last five or six holes of a major championship, being on the clock.

And there's a moment earlier on where she is standing over a tee shot, and she flinches at it, because I don't know if she saw a bug or had a distraction, took like half a step away, and then just said, nah, fuck fuck it I'm gonna hit it and she laced it right down the middle of the fairway but like for all the talk of pace of play and how hard this is to police this new policy I had people

celebrating it and I'm honestly I'm kind of raising a hand of like a lot of this seems like it's not against the spirit of trying to close out a major championship because she's playing with Carlota Saganda, who's the slowest player on tour. And undoubtedly, I didn't see this documented, but undoubtedly the reason that this group is on the clock and behind pace. And it was just a horrible situation. I was gonna say, come on in here.

Shout out to Cody, I was listening to you guys yesterday. This was exactly what you wanted. That was one of my favorite takes of the pod yesterday. Cody saying, hopefully Carlotta, we just need her in the mix, just mucking things up, causing chaos. You know? Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what happened, Cody.

She changed the outcome of this tournament, not by her score by any means. But I will say this, Carlotta, obviously very, very, very slow. But Aria also taking her a comfortable amount of time. When they got put on the clock and I think when they got off of 14 green Ronnie was like visibly crying she was wiping tears from her eyes because she was trying to keep it all together she had a horrible you know trying to get up and down hit a horrible pitch there ended up making bogey and she knew how big it was but man Carlotta, I said that yesterday jokingly,

but it absolutely was a factor in this tournament. Yeah. And they throw that out there and then they don't ever update you on what the times are or like that whole thing could have been in limbo. Like an 18 fairway, she takes forever. I'm leading all the way up to this approach she has into 18. She takes forever in that fairway.

And they do point out a person sitting behind the green right in front of the big grandstand. And like they, they audibly say that they're just going to blow this into a grandstand. That's how you know it's a great major championship is you can just blow it up. Like can we talk? I think we need to listen. That is history at this tournament. That's true. That is tradition at this tournament, even going back to Mission Hills. It seemed gross. So Aria just blows it completely long on 18 with her second and her defense against the grandstand. She hit the entire rest of the field. She hit the strand of hair

that she was aiming for on that guy's leg. Like that was an unbelievable shot. It the TIO was pissing me off I don't know. It just takes some of the skill and I will get to a broader Chevron discussion later, but I didn't like it left a very bad taste in my mouth. So, sorry, she gets a I even forget. Did she actually get the drop or did it hit enough and come back where she didn't need to take a drop. Did not need to take a drop. Has a bad lie, but not that bad of a lie. I did not think the broadcast set us up very well for what happened next, which was she gets over a shot and tries to play it quickly. And honestly, one of the worst efforts I've ever seen a professional make at any one single shot ever, and much less trying to win a major, a quote unquote major on the 72nd hole the ball I mean she hits Way behind the ball and it's not like a Bermuda like chunky. I'm not like a Bermuda short grass

Stub like this was a winch II I mean, this is this is a big Bermuda rough there. I'm trying to think like our guy Tron Carter I think I've seen him make this move. Yeah, the only other player in the world that could hit this shot. I Love this position. What I mean handles forward What? Clearly she didn't keep her sternum moving but it was bad Honestly, she pumped faked everybody because nobody thought that like this was an actual stroke. Let's try to quick pitch it you thought that like this was an actual stroke? I was trying to quick pitch it. The ball really didn't move. I mean the club kind of makes contact. Maybe it like rolls but then like comes but it's

like the ball didn't really even move. But it wasn't like a whiff like went under it or something like that. We've seen that you know from greenside shots but like I've never seen this. I've never seen this honestly. 100% decel. So Arias eight under at this point. And prior to this flub chip would would be getting up and down to get to nine under and completely put the tournament away. As it would stand just getting her third pitch on the green and two putting for par would have been enough to win in regulation. But she doesn't do that. She flubs it. And then she like

quickly plays. What what is her back off? Yeah, doesn she doesn't do that she flubs it and then she like quickly plays what what is her doesn't back off yeah doesn't doesn't wipe the club nothing and hits it past the flag catches there's like a downslope from where she is and goes to maybe i don't know 10 12 feet and unsurprisingly misses the par putt then to bogey the 18th hole, another par five to unleash this playoff at 700 par. It's incredible. I think the worst part about that chip was there were, there were just enough breadcrumbs throughout that round of golf of kind of like, Oh, she's, she's putting this one, huh? Like, yeah. All right.

That's interesting. You know, and then it was all kind of just like, if it was a movie, it would have been like, ooh. Director left, okay, director's telling us something with that one. That's, there's checkoffs coming up here. You gotta remember that later. There's a reason that made the edit, I think. Speaking of breadcrumbs, or maybe the lack of breadcrumbs,

like that par putt big that you're just talking about, it didn't even sniff the cup. It was so far, so far wide. And again, this is gonna become a running trend, I think, probably this show. But like, you know, there's an analyst, a full-time analyst is sitting in that NBC booth that's supposed to tell us kind of what's going on and bring us to that situation, that shot somebody who's been there before. And it's kind of hush.

You know, it was one of those moments where I think stood out definitely as like, okay, you're not even gonna give us the rundown of her past experiences and collapses and everything else. Like this is the kind of a big moment here. And it was just a bunch of wows. Oh my goodness, I can't believe that happened. Yeah, you're exactly right.

I don't think they set the moment up. Aria's whole personal history is fascinating. Like at one point she was quoted in 2018 as like wanting to, or excuse me, 2021, as she thought a lot about quitting the game of golf. It has been a persistent problem. She is a former world number one, won 10 times in a little over two years. Like had a run from 2016 to 2018 and then has kind of, it's just vacated. I mean, won twice in 2021 have been her two subsequent wins. But the more I think about this, like it's kind of hitting me in the most, like this was a astronomical choke job by her. Like that, that third shot, you just have to advance the ball anywhere

on the green and she's a major champion for the third time. Like I don't think this is going to get credit for being what it is, which is like one of the all time gags that we've seen, I think in a major. And to your point, Cody, what's really frustrating about it, not that these two situations are at all comparable, but just to use it as a cheap example, is imagine watching Rory a couple weeks ago and just them being like, listen, don't mention 2010,

don't mention what happened at Pinehurst, don't mention all the close calls. We're just going to focus on the shot at hand. To your point, Cody, that's how they treated the broadcast today. Without the context, it's really hard to get glued in and really have those moments where you're leaning a little closer to the screen. I know they're probably almost trying to do the players a service by treating them that way, but it just does such a massive disservice when you don't provide

that context, because then, I mean, if she would have gotten over the hump, you would have had an hour and a half, two hours of like kind of building it up to that moment, and she's about to slay the dragon, what's gonna happen? And you know, she doesn't get that, and the audience doesn't really get context on like what if I told you this has happened before and it's just kind of everybody

everybody loses it stinks. Well it's also just the complete unseriousness of the backstop back there and how she does not get to take the drop and Mal Sigo does get to take the drop gets it up and down for Birdie and like it just complete random chance is how you're and it's not random, not complete random chance, but like a luck element that is guided by the buoyancy of a natural element. Yeah. Of the Chevron sign right behind it is helped help contribute to this. Can I say something radical about that that situation that area was in? Honestly, if this is, if the chipping is like, if this was a possibility with a chip, putt that.

I know you're in the rough. Putt it, it's got to go three feet and it would trundle all the way onto the green and all you got to do is two putt from there. Putt it out of the rough. I don't care. Just chop it. Chop it and get it moving forward. Ditching wedge, you know, not even that just put it put it

I know it's I know it's rough But that is not that thick and just like literally chop at it with the back of the ball and get it rolling I don't think it could have gone all the way down to the water like all you had to do was hit that ball in the green and it was night night and Who gets a playoff? Well, yeah, so so big so we talked about Aria how she ended up in the playoff Well, yeah, so so big so we talked about Aria how she ended up in the playoff Hojo Kim she was the first one in the club how she shot a 70 today got in at 7 under

Missed a birdie putt on 18 that turns out would have won her the championship She is ends up in the playoff. But what about Lindy Duncan? So Lindy Duncan, I Honestly put together a great round I thought. I completely expected her to go away considering she's never been in a situation like this. And after I believe she had bogeyed the part three, well, but then makes birdie on 13 birdies 14 to get to eight under at that point was tied for the game. Um birdies fourteen to get to eight under at that point was tied for the lead uh cuz Aria was still at eight under and then fifteen. I

fifteen was playing ridiculous like you said in our chat like the the green was just too firm like you the women weren't holding it from like anywhere the rough the fairway like every every ball was pretty much ending up in the same spot kind of long left of 15 Lindy can't get it up and down So she bogeys at she bogey 16. She's six under but then hits driver would into 18 the par 5

She's laying like pin high almost just left of the green on the fringe and god bless her. She gave it a run She she putted it and I mean she gave it a run that ball slid just by the hole but goes out to like 10 feet. So far past. You're wondering like what are we doing Lindy? She buries that putt, makes birdie so that gets her to 7 under. Who else do we have to go? You mentioned Mal Sigo, she played her 18th. I believe yeah she got the drop, She gets up and down for birdie. She's kind of a nice putt. They have a really nice putt, center, center.

Like it was a good one. Kind of the putt that Arya does not, right? So she's our fourth woman. And then Roning Yin is the other one, and she's the young Chinese 22-year-old major champion, like big expectations, I think ranked fourth in the world right now, fifth in the world right now. And she bogeyed 15. She hit a massive putt on 16 to save par. And then she hits what I thought was a great shot into 18 in regulation, just goes through the green. But she's able to get that up and down for birdie to get to seven under. So we have these five women heading to a playoff

at seven under par, and they all kind of arrive at the playoff in different ways. And with different, like it was a very interesting collection of women for a major playoff. Like I do have to give them that. Like we had pretty much a whole cross section of people. So Ronnie Yen finds the fairway off of 18T and then hits like an elevator shaft.

I don't know what hybrid, five wood, I don't know what she hit in, but the greens were so firm. 15 out of 10 shot. Yeah, so firm. Shot of the week. Back left pin, and if you land a ball on the green, it's gonna be, your best bet is honestly a hope that it gets a good bounce off the grandstand and gets, you know, you want it to hit the grandstand on the way up. So it, you know, has a little bit of spin to be able to hold the green coming back the other way. But what was soft was the fringes and the surrounds of this place. So she lands it between the water and the green, and it comes up behind the pin. I mean it leaves a tough putt

but what 18 feet past the hole down the hill for eagle maybe at most like kind of feels it's quick she was coming from the same direction in regulation you know and like big god bless her she gave it a run. I mean she ran it six feet by seven feet by like awful awful awful putt. I mean, she ran it six feet by, seven feet by, like awful, awful, awful putt. I mean, and kind of a reaction that was like, Holy shit, what I just do. Like, Oh, I forgot about the pace. You know, it's like one of those things where you're out there. You're like, Oh, I forgot about the pace. Of course, of course.

Um, she lips out the comebacker. So that's mega deflating because her second shot was was the best shot I thought given the the circumstance given the pressure like that was the shot of the tournament You kind of got to flip a an MVP vote to whoever cut that cup on 18 this morning. That was sharp Lips who else do we want to go to Aria aria hit a nice three wood off the tee I believe she had four iron into the the 18th in the playoff kind of hits the same type of shot didn't regulation Did get a drop hits a good chip, you know has what I six seven feet

coming back and Lips her birdie putt out. Uh, Lindy Duncan and Hugh Jue Kim had laid up neither. I guess Hugh Jue had a decent look. She was kind of on the same line as running in. Um, but played it a lot, uh, a lot less pace and it kind of died and, and swung left at the cup. And so like mouse, I go was, it literally felt kind of died and swung left at the cup and so

like Mal Sigo was it literally felt kind of like the tortoise in the hair with her where she just yeah to to her credit she had found the fairway. Um she hit really nice pitch but yeah deep and yeah pitched to three four feet and made the birdie

putt and was like holy **** just won a major to Chevron. Like I'm still not sure how we got there. Chugging this pond, okay. I don't know how I'm supposed to be left feeling after all of that. I mean, it felt like two other women won this golf tournament at a certain time. I like watching Miles Sagan.

I love her swing, man. I really liked watching her play. I'm still just a little drunk from watching that and kind of haven't really like come to come fully Pastly, this is like what would have happened if Rory would have let the Masters get away like where I came back and won it You know in the playoff but like there was like 99 percent chance that that our area Jutan Karam was gonna win this golf tournament and like the 1% thing happened

Oh my God. So I mean, credit to Mao Saigo. She, she started the fourth round tied for the lead with Hey Ron Rue. Uh, she shot at 74, you know, she didn't necessarily like go out there and get it. Um, found herself in a playoff and did enough. She becomes the fifth Japanese woman to win a major now on the LPGA. It's her first major. It's her first major. It's her first LPGA win. She had won six times on the Japan LPGA tour.

And I should say, we talked about last night, she was the rookie of the year last year. She's not somebody that's like totally out of nowhere. She was two, I get her in Hey Ron mixed up. Which also we need to say it's Hey Dawn. You keep, I don't know why it is but that's how she how her name is pronounced and you keep getting me all tied up here Randy and it's killing me. And it's you not Rue. A lot of people are asking for for mea culpa is on that. So well any trap draw listeners will know pronunciations aren't my specialty. So anyway, good for Mal.

Listen, nobody can ever take this win away from her. But yeah, I'm just not sure. I think what I'll remember most, and maybe that's the question for you guys, is like, I'm gonna just always remember Aria flubbing that chip, I think. 100%, and it's, we did a video with Aria six years ago, I think, after she won the US Women's Open. She was there for US Women's Open media day at the Country Club of Charleston.

It was the epitome of don't judge a book by its cover in terms of demeanor out in the golf course and get them on camera, talk to them, get to know them. Legitimately, some of the hardest I've ever laughed on a golf course was listening to her roast Neil all day and immediately pick up on our humor and just spit it right back at us. She immediately became one of my favorite golfers after that. I've always enjoyed rooting for her and honestly had kind of forgotten about her. She has just not been a major factor for several years. She was the number one player in the world around that time. And it was just, I mean, she was so powerful and never need, still doesn't need driver, never needed driver. But she's just this enigma of this talent that doesn't seem to be able to just, you know, finish it through 72 holes. And I'm legitimately gutted for her because I was really, really rooting for her. And she is a great person.

I encourage people to go watch. It's like a six-minute video go watch it and you would you would be even more bombed effort today. Yeah, well said. So yeah, that's that's the playoff. That's the ending. You tell me, Sully, any... I mean, just... Some final notes. Hey, Don, you found around 76. She was all of our picks last night. There's a lot I mean, gosh, can we just do this now and just have this be

really all encompassing not include ourselves into this. But surf rose, the number one brand in cleanup and restoration is known for making any mess like it never even happened. I'd love there's a lot of stuff on that 72nd hole I'd like to make like it never even happened. I'd love, there's a lot of stuff in that 70 second hole I'd like to make like it never even happened. And also all of our picks for this week, big both in the preview show. Cody, I know you had, you know,

you had Ronnie Yen last night to maybe make it not a clean wipe of just like some of the worst all time calls you could possibly have. I'll just on top of like, just some true moments from this past weekend that I would like to forget like it never even happened. For sure. It was tough. I don just on top of like just some true moments from this past weekend that I would like to forget like it never even happened. For sure. It was tough. I don't know what we're I mean, we

talked about I know not everybody tuned in last night, but I did my best of like, you know, trying to find a palm branch out there to cover our tracks up because I was like, hey, this is a stinky, stinky week from us. Randy has the excuse that, you know, he wasn't on the happy hour show. But when he came in last night, I mean, it's not good. But then again, I think that's kind of what described this year's Chevron championship is just,

this wasn't good, guys. We'll get to that, but you can always visit servepro.com or call 1-800-ServePro today and make any mess like it never even happened. Well, just a few things on Haydon's struggles. She's now held a 54-hole lead four times on the LPGA, hasn't won any of those. And I don't think that's necessarily like big alarm bells going off. She's 20, what, 23, 24 years old, like a lot of career in front of her. But I do think it's a bit troubling.

She has entered the final round at three majors inside the top five. And she has shot over par in all of those and has not closed the deal. So going back to last year's US, or excuse me, the 2023 US women's open, she came in T5 into the final round shot 74 last year at Chevron. She was in the lead shot 74 finish fifth this year. She's tied for the lead shoot 76 and

finishes tied for what sixth so it's it's just it's it's not great. I think that's something that for whatever reason I'm I'm and she bogeyy the first two holes like she she was never Never a factor today really and that's disappointing for her Yeah You want to and honor TC go how far to what don't lead a board do you do you want to go here mr. Big?

Yeah, we let's I think we need to honor TC Probably worth calling out just the rest of the top 10 and then I just have a few others. So that tied for six group was five under overall that's Jin Young Ko who this is some like wiki yellow for her never really a factor this week but puts together four pretty good rounds tied for six. Sarah Schmelzel, great result for her. Best finish at a major.

She shot 74 today. Has to be disappointing, but a very good week for her. And then tied for ninth, you had Carlotta, Hugen Choi, Manon De Rouy from Belgium had a nice 69 today to get back in the top 10. And then on one of our first round leaders, Yanlu from China, who was seven under after round one. Got it. She just, you know, just played it in the house, man. Even far from there. Yeah. She was, she was also tied for nine at that four under group. So I think we'd probably start with Nellie. You know, this was one of the stories of the tournament.

She finishes tied for 14th, which honestly she was, she shot 77 round one. I believe it was two more over par earlier in her second round, looking at a missed cut and battled ended up shooting 68, 71, 70. So I don't know. Sully Cody like. Can we squeeze some positive out of this from Nellie or is it kind of overall it more of a down week for her? Do you think? I mean, I think she was negative odds to top 10, I think, wasn't she? Golf courses should fit her.

I mean, firm-ass greens, nobody hits it longer and higher than she does. You kind of can't dial it out much better for her. I would struggle to celebrate a T14. If Rory would have shot 85 million in the opening round. It's still Rory. It's not first-ever to talking about how Rory it is. Right? I know that's a lazy call, but it's just like, man, this is

Rory at the last five years, six years. Just like that. I was listening to you guys talk about it on the show last night. And it's like, ah, man, if she could just get away from that one opening random 77, where did that come from? You know? And then it's like, oh, man, yeah, I feel like I've seen this movie a couple times

from a world-class player, which I guess if we're following their trajectory, you know, maybe then she just keeps grinding and then maybe she becomes LACC Rory and then Pioneers Rory, we're just gonna keep knocking on the door and then, you know, the complete package. Can we, can I, you know,

can I have an alternate comp for Nelly, if maybe we were Rory before, and then we tried Scotty last year. She might be DJ. It's interesting. Two major wins, ton of other wins. Otherwise, why haven't you done more? Did he have like the crazy,

those like out of nowhere, I guess he did the out of nowhere major rounds. Like the kind of no show on a Thursday Friday. Yeah, probably. Probably. Yeah, I would have to. Or on a Sunday. Yeah, it seemed like his floor was, I don't know.

That's not fair to say his floor is higher because she's, you know, she's been in a lot of these two, but it's interesting. I have to think about it. She's played a lot of majors and she has two. I know. I know. think about it. She's played a lot of majors and she has two. I know, I know. She also started playing majors when she was like 14 years old though.

She played her first major in 2013. She has played 43 majors and has won two of them. Yeah, I think that's probably, let's see the rest of this year. But there's definitely a disappointing week. I mean, there's no doubt about that. It was a tough blow for the the road to 11. For sure. For sure. One, two of them. And one of them is this one, which whenever you're done going down the leaderboard, we're gonna call into question this major championship.

going down later, but we're going to call into question this major championship. I take. Yeah. Well, let me, let me say, uh, Lexi Thompson, the semi retired Lexi Thompson. I thought she retired. Yeah, check it out. She's still playing. Uh, she shot 76. I don't think anything about Lexi's round surprised me at all. She was also tied for 14th. Um, you know what I'm good on though? Golf channel NBC. Like we don't have to, every time Lexi's coming up the 72nd hole. We don't have to do any more of the, you know, will this be your last time? When are we going to see her get like I'm good. Like I think we just treat her like anybody else at this point until she actually goes away. And here's Arnold Palmer strolling down the fairway for what could be the last time.

It's more like the Derek Jeter farewell tour is kind of what it's starting to feel like a little bit. 162 games and it just tributes. Yeah. Tied for 18th. Alison Corpoo shot the round of the day today. I wanted to call that out. She shot 68, 400 par. She's part of the tie for 18th group along with young hitter Lauren Coughlin disappointing Sunday. She shot 75 today I think it's a good thing that we're disappointed with the top 20 at a major for LC I feel like that shows the the progression that she's been on It's well said big. Yeah, I agree with that Gino titicum she disappointing week tied for 24th even par overall Going deeper down the leaderboard. Who else do I want to call out? So, she disappointing week tied over total. That's tied for

You had the first cuts that didn't even make the weekend. You had former champ Jennifer Cupcho. You have Ling Grant. You have Celine Boudier is a major champ. Madeline Sagstrom coming off that great match play victory a couple weeks ago. You have Charlie

Hall missing the cut. Uh Lottie Wode, an amateur that I thought, you know, maybe she could even make a top 10 this week. She misses the cut. Patty Tavataniakit, Hannah Green, they all missed the cut. I think Yuka Sasso misses the cut. I think more than anything, this week is also defined by the best players in the world just collectively didn't really show up.

That's always a shame for a major championship and I think for a first major championship and I think specifically for this major championship Because this course this venue this broadcast you need big names in contention to really draw people in so that's a bummer Yeah, I mean it it's hard because it ended up with a glorious madness at the end That was like I mean that was entertaining as hell at the very end. I mean, at the very, very end, the path to getting there was not glorious. I would call it anything but that. And apologies if you tuned into the show last night,

and kind of heard our discussion on the Chevron. There's a lot more people that tune in on our Sunday night show, and probably a discussion that we're gonna pretty much just run back from this. But big, it's hard to get super excited about the Chevron, about the Chevron, about the future of it.

This is year three that we've had at Carlton Woods. Not an iconic golf course, not an iconic atmosphere out there. Terry Gannon is kind of forced to say major, like remind you almost on every hole that it's a major championship because nothing about it screams major, nothing about it screams elevated above the previous week on the LPGA tour or the next week on the LPGA tour. And I'm really, really struggling with it. And it just leaves me in this limbo constantly of like, I'm watching a major, but I'm kind of not and it's a major because they say it is and that doesn't feel like a major and I feel like we're playing it really fast and loose with this term and

I feel like these are all emotions that a lot of people watching at home are struggling with and I'm wondering kind of how you're feel sitting here on this Sunday night. I feel the exact same way I think that the atmosphere doesn't point to it being a major the the golf course, you know, I've watched this event now three years at Carleton Woods. The course drained well, right? They had a ton of rain early in the week. The membership likes the event. So like, I don't want to bury the members course itself. But for a major championship, I don't really have a feel for any of the golf holes, say for like 15 and 18 are really the two that I like know now. And I think that's an issue. I don't think NBC Golf Channel does much at all to showcase the holes, talk about the strategy of the holes, what makes a hole challenging,

what are the players trying to like, they don't give it major championship coverage that way. We know Houston is pretty detached from the Woodlands, but our guy Justin Ray was tweeting out like, no advertisements at the user rockets playoff games, the Astros, I don't think you're getting advertisements. Cody, you made a great point on last night's show. This event should be heavily, heavily promoted, advertised. Bring a ticket stub from the PGA event at Memorial Park that happens a few weeks prior to this event, right? Just try to get as many people out here as you can.

I guess the Woodlands has a big Ironman race that falls on the Saturday of this tournament that makes getting around really tough. So it just you have all these factors. Yeah, like we can call it a major and it's going to be classified as a major in the history books, but it's really, I don't know, it's not great. It's's it's disappointing. And I guess more than anything, like we can talk about the problems. Nothing that we say like we don't have any power to change anything. I'm just wondering like what can be done. Do you do you think like Dej? Do you think chevron's happy with it? Like I i'm not sure if this is like, hey, we

tick tick the box mission accomplished. We're killing it. Like I don't know if Chevron's feeling that or not. I don't know. It's a good question. It kind of goes back to even some of the PJ Tour conversations we have about like, why do sponsors sponsor these things? And I think we always get tripped up on ratings and exposure and impressions and all that stuff. And Sally did a great job, you know, on the pod last year, interviewing my guy, Denny Cash, about how it's not always, it's not always about that, you know, it's about the in-person experience and that's where it's like, man, I can't speak to what the Chevron executives, you know,

what their week was like. Maybe they had a great time, you know, maybe they entertained four important clients and got, you know, but blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Uh, but from the outside looking in, I mean, I, I, I don't cover, follow the women's game nearly as closely as you guys do, you know, Randy and Cody. And it's like, as I'm tuning into this, I echo what you said yesterday is like, man, this feels like a run of the mill LPGA event kind of feels like a middle of the road. Not even a premiere. Yeah, like kind of

felt like a practice round out there. Some of those aerials that they're showing of like, this is the final group of a major championship. And there looks like there's about 38 people around the whole. And it's just like, man, I'm not trying to, I get all the complexities, man. I get you need a sponsor to pony up a lot of, a lot of dough for something like this. And it seems like they have that in Chevron. And then you find that partner and then that partner has demands on where they want to have it. And so it's very easy for me to be like, move it to Chambers Bay, move it to Pebble Beach, move it to Colonial, move it to... I get that it's not that easy. But I also think you got to kind of call balls and strikes on like, that's just not it, man. Like straight up. That is, as a pretty casual watcher of, of the women's game,

you guys nailed it earlier. There's like two things are going to draw me in. One is big names. If Nellie, you know, it's Nellie versus Gino today, I or Lydia Co or whatever. I'm, I'm, I'm in going to watch that. That, that sounds awesome. And the other option is the golf course, right? When they go to, they go to country club of Charleston was really cool. I remember that when they're going to Aaron Hills, you know, next month here that us women's open has been awesome. The KPMG has been awesome. And like, I will tune into to see the golf course,

but man, when you don't have either is like, and then you kind of insist on going to that forgettable golf course every year is just be the same as moving the, you know, I'm not whatever is whatever it doesn't do any good to like take shots but it's like be like moving the PGA to what like Warwick Hills or something it's just like yeah we're just coming here every year every major like oh okay well yeah you don't you don't get it gm man like I'm sorry this is you don't get it I'm gonna do literally anything else which even that is like man fucking think about how many people were at that event back in the day.

But it's like, yeah, it's just tough, man. It's tough. Just doesn't seem like anybody, it seems like the lower left quadrant on pretty much every factor that matters. Yeah. I'll say two things for it, right? Bigger purse, so the players are getting

a decent sized paycheck, which- Positive thing. Good thing. Yeah, great for them. Doesn't do anything for me as a fan. And yeah, Chevron, good sponsor, I guess. But God, if we're tied into this, then I got to ask, is it even worth it? Well, that's two years. You guys said it on the show last night, too, but it's like, you almost can't fault the current like, nobody involved right now doesn't. Nobody's doing anything wrong almost, right? You're just forcing it at a place that kind of seems impossible to, to make fetch happen a little bit.

Comparison on the men's side, which is unfair, but I'll get there. Okay, like the US Open is the United States Open Championship. Okay. The British Open, the Open Championship, whatever you call it is the British version of the open their Open Championship. That is the national championship there. PGA Championship. That's not positive what that is. But you know, the PGA of America puts on long drive contest a massive tournament, best field, all that. And the Masters is a major because it is like far and away

the greatest single tournament that's held anywhere. All these other venues obviously rotate, blah, blah, blah. The Masters is its own thing. This traditional tournament, 89 times it's happened at this mystical golf course. And that status of this tournament, the way they treated it, dating back to 1934 is what has made it a major championship tournament.

You cannot just put up a tournament and call it major. You're gonna have the US women's open, you're gonna have the AIG women's open, which wasn't even always a major, and you're gonna have the KPMG women's PGA, which got saved by KPMG essentially and saved as a major. Ignoring the Ev have the KPMG Women's PGA, which got like saved by KPMG essentially as and saved as a major. Ignoring the Evian for now, like you have the three. Now what would the fourth be? And Randy, you've said this in the past. It's a great idea. Like the founders should become the major, right? If you were viewing this from an LPGA

perspective, again, not viewing it from a Chevron perspective, like just viewing from a, how do we make this a standalone championship be like our crown jewel? You're better off kind of following the players model, probably, than you are the Masters. But you don't even have that. So just taking a tournament that was one of your most traditional ones, moving it to this random location, killing the vibe. Worst golf course, I would say, and calling it a major, like nobody's winning here except for the players that are getting paid well in this. And it's like, I wanna see women's golf grow, I wanna see it generate genuine interest, and I could not be much more confident

that this is not the answer. Well, that's so well said, everything you just said. I think what's really fascinating or frustrating about it is I think women's golf, I think, is like begging for a venue like that. I think if you found a golf course that was killer that you did go back to every year, I think, God, I think there's a place in women's golf

for that. And this is just so clearly not it. Then you means atmosphere. That's what I mean. That's a massive part of it too. The in-person atmosphere has to have the buzz that you hear on television That makes you want to tune in like straight up the Zurich had 8x the the buzz the silly It's like a silly season event on the PGA tour

We flip over to that and it just has like some suspense writing there that just is totally lacking on the other end man It just I don't feel this way when I watch the three main women's majors. That's why this part gets so frustrating. Totally agree with all that. I'll say there are two venues that the LPGA plays every year that would work so much better than this. Now I'm not, again, Dej, to your point, it's like, whatever.

It's so hard to take this and go there, but like Shadow Creek would be a fascinating major venue every year. You're probably not going to have huge crowds out there because they're weird about that, but fantastic tournament golf course. Wilshire Country Club in Los Angeles. And the owners there, and I apologize, I don't know the couple's name, but they are heavy, heavy into supporting women's golf and essentially making that the best tournament that's not a major on the LPGA calendar every year. I mean, that would be an awesome place to hold what would be like a founder's championship, right? Your fourth major. I just think, I hopefully, I want this to be a priority for the incoming commissioner because there's no way somebody can look at this with, with unbiased eyes and say, man, this is really working. To me, it just screams, hey, there's money, and we're doing it, but it's not really working out in a

holistic sense. And Jordan made this point last night, sorry, Cody, last point, she made this point last night about how much it hurts like the other majors is like by putting a major up for sale, it almost like delegitimizes the entire competitive structure, major championship structure on the women's side. Honestly, I don't even know if we've emphasized

that enough last time. It's not something that you can just buy. Like that's the Evian problem and now the Chevron problem. Sorry, Cody, go ahead. Yeah, just a couple things I want to say. So, Big, you're talking about Walter and Shirley who own Plaspro and JM Eagle who do an awesome job and they run the JM Eagle championship that's been at Wilshire. Wasn't there this year because of renovations and everything that they have going on there. But they want to have a higher purse at their tournament. We also have a tournament on the LPGA calendar already.

I understand this is American-centric and we would like to have it in America or somewhere close that is similar time zones. But HSBC has been known as the Asian major for a very long, long time. HSBC is very supportive of the women's game. You would think HSBC would be interested in something like that.

Couple other notes that kind of sticks out. They had a long, the ANA when it was in, you know, the desert had a very long history and people love to go back and be like, Oh, look at it. And how great the history and traditions and everything were there. Yeah, but that like, they also got sick of it. And they were having like, member guests or something like that going on. And like the sister court when it was there, like ran it worse okay and I know that's hard to say because everybody loves to live in the history of it but like it needed to move from there what I think the issue is is that if you look at this deal on paper it looks amazing right wow we're

taking it to Houston Texas one of the you know in the top five cities in the United States, got 2.3 million people there, got major companies that are headquartered there and everything. But this is, this tournament has nothing to do with Houston. It has yet to figure out how to tap in to the lifeblood of Houston and get those people out to the tournament, which I think is the biggest thing that's like, hey guys, like we got to change something here because obviously Chevron, they extended their deal. All right. It's not going to move clubs because they have a very supportive club membership and they've invested a ton of money into it, but they got to try something new for next year or else this is just going to continue to be a stinker. We're going gonna continue to talk about it the same way

and it is and even, yeah, the women are getting paid more money but they even recognize it like, oh yeah, I mean, I would love to win a women's open or the KPMG or US women's open or something like that, but yeah, I guess the Chevron, okay, I got it. They understand that. Cody, I wanted to... You breezed past it pretty quick, but on my list as well was just like, look at how global

the women's game is. Look at how global this playoff was. Like how... I'm sure this has been talked about, but man, a major in Korea or Japan or I don't know, Thailand. Like it just... God, that seems like it would crush. That seems like it would be electric.

And it's very almost strange at this point that that's not talked about more. For sure. With the sheer amount of tech companies and stuff that won't invest and obviously, if you put, I hate to say this, but the LPGA Tour is always gonna do the pay for play system here. We've learned that with Chevron, we've learned that with Chevron,

we've learned that with the Evian. If companies put up the money, they'll put whatever title that they want, that they ask for basically on a tournament. Well, go, think of all the tech companies that are based in Asia. Like, I don't understand what we're doing. We have two really good candidates for people that aren't familiar and haven't checked in to any of the LPGA you know podcasts that Randy and I have

done but you know we're kind of down the LPGA tour currently is is commissionerless then the two candidates uh Craig Kessler he's currently the COO of the PGA of America and then the Corn Fairy Tour president Alex Baldwin. They're both very used to dealing with you know what Alex has been able to do to transform the corn ferry tour schedule is has been remarkable. Not only with getting more money into that tour but solidifying venues and making sure they're like hey if we're moving people all over the globe that they are now, that it matters. And like, there's so many issues on this tour that are highlighted this week,

but really stretch out across the entire organization. And they desperately need to get somebody hired and they can't wait the six months that the former commissioner waited to do her fact-finding story. Somebody needs to put their neck out, start making decisions on day one, and just roll with the consequences.

If you make a bad decision, perfect. You have time to regroup, people will support you in doing so, but like we can't continue this status quo of basically bending over to title sponsors of things and letting them get their way. Yeah. I think this tournament's fucked.

Like I think it's not going anywhere and we're gonna do the same thing again next year. Like it's, you know, from our perspective, from the fan's perspective, which is what we're trying to cover. Right. Cause there's not, yeah. It's like plausible deniability on every front.

Like there's nobody flagrantly messing up anything. It just all results in a product that is lacking and it doesn't live up to what golf fans expect and want out of major championship. And it's this and the Evian. They both have that same problem. Amen. Anything else from from Chevron? Are we good to move on to the team event on the PGA tour? Did you want to take us there? I would love to

guys. Uh the Zura Classic of New Orleans, Cody uh echoes a lot of what you're saying about uh it's more like the the Zura Classic of you know 52 minutes outside of New Orleans But Andrew Novak and Ben Griffin are now PGA Tour Winners over there started the final round with a three-shot lead. There was a power outage on Sunday. You may have seen this I you know beginning of the week. We're trying to divvy up responsibilities and I'm like, alright You guys are gonna be heavy on the chevron. I'll kind of be watching everything else. Went to go flip it on today. It was like, welcome to the boat.

Shit, we've got bonus coverage of the championship here in Duluth, Georgia. Like, that's not good. So anyways, TV compound was down for hours, we had a lightning delay, just kind of a kind of a train wreck, sort of a logistics day over there in whatever town that is, outside of New Orleans, but coming back from the delay, Andrew Novak and Ben Griffin bogey two in a row, starting to reel a little bit really, I kind of laughed here and Andrew Novak talk about that in the post rounder of just like, man, I was like starting to spin out. And luckily, I had partner I was like, like that's A very interesting and you know I always appreciate hearing that but B it's like oh that's an interesting way to get your first you know PGA Tour win but kind of settled in after that made about seven I think seven straight pars and then Ben Griffin just cans like a 35 footer on 17 to give them a two shot lead. They were able to just cruise up the par five 18th on their way to their first victory each

Andrew Novak now up to sixth in the FedEx Cup points list T3 second and win in his last three starts. Is that any good? What's in the ATP rankings now big? I have no idea. Ben Griffin moves up as well. I forget what his number was. He's 21st now in FedEx. Yeah. So even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going to get into that. I'm not even going a bit but truly, shouldn't both of these guys get a half win? How does two guys getting one like when when you go to do the accounting, you know, you're gonna have two wins but we've only played one. I I that bugs me a little bit. Following

this, the major conversation too was like, what the fuck is this week? Big, I don't disagree with any of that. Of course. The only thing I can squint and maybe say is that golf is just, and golf history is littered with this type of thing. And you go look at Sam Snead's record, everybody loves to pick on. There's a lot of three club challenges and stuff in there that all count as part of his 82 wins. But I don't know how you treat it any differently. We say this every year when we get to Zurich. We spend a lot of time being like, man, you need new formats. You gotta try stuff. You gotta experiment. The tour has now done this for seven years.

They have a partner with Zerk who just extended this year through like 2030, I think. Let me Kirk Ferentz get the longest contract. Yes. And so I don't know, I don't disagree with you, but I also disagree with you, I guess, is kind of where I'm like, I don't know, I think it all just kind of comes out in the wash. And other than Xander and Xander and can't lay

winning this and of course, Rory and and Lowry winning last year. It's like, I don't think there's a ton of guys padding the stats with this one. You know, totally go get 83 here. He absolutely should like, what's what's Tommy doing? Tommy, it's not a real totally go get 83 here. He absolutely should like what's what's Tommy doing? Tommy let's get a good partner and come win this but yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. It's It's just an interesting event. I did enjoy it coming down the stretch watching today when the TV broadcast did ultimately Ultimately come back. I don't know what happened. I heard heard some rumors There was like a fire underneath the underneath the truck that they had to figure out I don't know what happened. I heard some rumors there was like a fire underneath the

Underneath the truck that they had to figure out. I don't know if that was verified or not, but it just a that's tough, man That's a tough tough beat tough break We had the Hoy guards trying to run down a victory. They finished solo second Jake Knapp and Frankie Sapin the third Finished in third David Lipski Dylan Wu Wu uh in T4 along with uh country music sensation Trace Crowe and and Taylor Dixon. That is that's they're on tour together like yeah this is the this was the outlaws tour. I want to shout out their sacrifice this week too I'm pretty sure they could have been headlining stage coach actually like the top top five of these teams

could could have been on the docket. There's a lot of names. But there were some fun teams. I mean, I had a couple of fun teams listed here. Isaiah Salinda and Kevin Velo, people got into that pairing. A couple of rookies that were very funny in their post-round press conferences, pretty vocal on course. They also broke the scoring record in the first round

and shot 58, best ball 58. That's that's You know shoot your ball out there big they shot 26 on the front nine. I don't know who it's just just a heady territory Yeah Carl Phillips and Michael Thorbjornsson again, just you know those guys get a lot of burn as as good buddies, but just in the midst of kind of a fun part Of their their early career. They both had some real high highs. Phillips won in Puerto Rico, but it's been really bad. Otherwise, Thor Bjornsson's been really bad until last week, finished T2 at Punta Cana. And then they,

what did they finish? T4, I think, this week as well. Chad Ramey and Justin Lauer, I know you might say, DJ, that's not very fun. But let me let me drill into this. Chad Ramey is like low key balls out at this event. And so I'm just for for the punters for the tipsters. I think he's now like t9 second t8 at this event. And I don't think I've heard his name. Otherwise. I flagged this one for you big Colin Morikawa and Kurt Kityama the Vegas boys Kurt Kityama is not finished in the top 30 all year and more college finished outside the top 20 once So, you know, I know more cow didn't have a good a good week last week I don't really know kind of who's to blame here

But I just think it's kind of funny more a coward to your point walks away with a miscut Like he's putting together like a fucking awesome season and it's just of funny. Morekawa to your point walks away with a miscut. So like, he's putting together like a fucking awesome season and it's just like, Oh, what happened? What event was that? Oh, the Zurich. And nobody's ever going to think about like, Oh, who his partner was. It's just kind of funny when you like, you smash all this stuff together. It all kind of just gets distilled down and comes out the wash, which is kind of funny. And then I put this one in there just for the Chevron boys, you know, for any Lexi fans, we had Sam Saunders coming out of retirement to play one last set

with Eric Cole. I've always loved Sam Saunders. I'm in on in on this. I didn't realize they were roommates. Hill, you know, Eric Cole and Orlando guy, former roommates as they were, as they were kind of starting out on their, their mini tour journey. So good for them. Did Sam, did they mention, did Sam write a letter to get in this week or how did? It's a good question. I don't know the answer.

I don't know the answer. Okay. All right. Uh, yeah, I don't know. This is, it's a, it's a hard one, man, where it's like, I don't know that, you know it's a hard one man where it's like I don't know that You know the change in format and all that stuff like is it? It always ends up being like the same as just watching Andrew Novak come down and try to close out a tournament Like I don't really get all that much out of it as a fan But go read the quotes from guys go talk to any of the players like they fucking they love it

Like they truly do like they they love playing as a team They love having a partner out there. Like so the players really like it seems like Zurich really likes it. And it'll probably be around for a little while. Because I was doing all this still better than just another normal stroke. Yeah, I don't like line up to play it but are to watch it. And you know, definitely didn't serve him great. From our perspective this

week of going up against a vaunted major like the chevron but it I don't know well it's it's really hard for me not for this format after how many times we've called for that's true I feel like this is the true masters hangover yeah and some of it honestly is like the course that they play it as. Just like not that interesting to me, I guess. I had one more partnership that I wanted to shout out here because it's something I've been tracking for years. I'm wildly fascinated by this.

Are you guys familiar with kind of the whole Ryan Palmer of this event? Oh yeah. Cody, I know you're on this. Big, I'm gonna quiz you here. Ryan Palmer, of course. Yeah. You know, I'm the Ryan Palmer, Texas guy. Of course. You know. Of course. For sure. These partnerships do not make any sense to me and I just think he's been like out kicking his coverage for years and now I think he has a bit of like a Dorian Gray situation. Uh, just kind of like all the chickens are coming home to roost. At this point, let me just run down some of the highlights. 2017 big,

you remember who he got paired with? 2017 would have been, I don't know, Jason Duffner. No Jordan Spieth. Uh, he plays with Jordan Spieth in, in one of his career years, 2017 they finished fourth big ass check. 2019 you guys remember who he plays with Jordan Spieth in one of his career years, 2017. They finished fourth. Big-ass check. 2019. You guys remember who he plays with? John Rahm. He plays with John Rahm in 2019, and they win the golf

tournament. 2021. He's paired with Rahm again. They finished seventh. 2022. Do you remember who he plays with? Like, Morkauer? Or, yeah.

Scottie Scheffler in 2022. They finished T18 and since then he's been paired with Zach Johnson and this week they finished DFL. And so I just think that maybe he's got to have to pay that credit card bill at some point and that's just very interesting to me. So I got a couple, listen, nobody's asking for this, but I did a bunch of research and so I'm gonna just, I'm gonna empty the clip here. I flipped a couple trivia questions on the Zurich for you guys. The big guy loves trivia. I know he does. I think you can get all these.

I really do. So I'm looking at you. I think you could do this. Bring it. One player has won the Zurich in both the individual format and the team format. This is kind of a hard one. I probably should have put it there. Have we said? No, we haven't said his name yet. I don't think we've said his name yet. Billy Horschel.

Exactly right. Sorry, Billy Horschel. Yeah, he was up here. No good one. He was in there, I think, like in the press conference, like the extension extension press conference like Billy's just sitting there That's what he means to this tournament. So uh All right, I think you can get this one. Maybe There were three sets of brothers playing in this event. Can you name all the brothers? Hoy guards hoy guards Fitzpatrick's us In this current years in In this current year. Hard one. Brothers.

They don't have the same last name. The brothers Jake and Logan were not playing. Oh the Paul brothers. Jeremy and Janik Paul. That's exactly right. Until today, I was today years old. Where if somebody would have stopped me on the street and be like, who's Jeremy Paul, be like, I was professional

golfer from Germany. Who's Yannick Paul? Also, yeah, also professional golfer from Germany. I never made the connection. Oh, shit, they're twin brothers. Oh, I didn't know they were twins. Yeah, how about that? I did not know that. Also, just like playing some golf. I didn't see where they finished up today. But Jeremy is kind of fun. Jeremy finished second at Punta Colana last week and see where they finished up today, but Jeremy finished, it was kind of fun. Jeremy finished second at Punta Colana last week and Janic finished third in the What About China Open.

They missed the cut this week. There you have it. They were hangovers, man. Okay, this one, I'm going to flip these. Andrew Novak, they may have said this on the broadcast. He was trying to become the first player to lose in a playoff and win the following week since who? And I'll give you a hint.

Kyle Stanley. At the Heritage and the Zurich as well. It was not Kyle Stanley. It has happened since then. It was in 2022. Smith has beat, he won. Patrick Cantlay lost to Spith at the RBC Heritage in a playoff and then won the Zerg. Oh, that makes sense. With Xander. This one's hard, but this was kind of, I

was all, you know, I'm in a bad mood earlier today and I'm like, this fucking tournament stinks. And in my head, I'm like, you know, to your point, Big, I'm like this fucking tournament stinks and in my head I'm like you know to your point Big I'm like we're giving two year exemptions to the winner of this thing what are we doing? I bet there's a bunch of guys who have won this tournament and then they would have lost their card the next year. There's two of them. There's only two guys that that happened to that won this tournament and then the following year finished outside the top 150 in the FedEx Cup Can you think of who those guys are?

Scott Brown Don't Know Did he god? I don't think he won this tournament was very close I don't think I got it over the line. Yeah, you kind of tripped me up there for a sec, but I don't One is a Jacksonville guy Not originally but lives there now to my to my current knowledge. Did Tyson Alexander win this thing? He did not. Older. First one as a team. Russell Knox? No good

guess. Further further east in Europe he's from a little north. Jonas Blix. Oh I believe the first team event with Kamp Smith. And the other one was, I don't know what the hint. Remember my beloved Illini TC's absolute boy. He's missed nine of 11 cuts this season. Ryan Gerard, Nick Hardy, Nick. Won this tournament and then would have promptly missed his guy. I don't know if he had some injury stuff going on, but there you have it. When he went over to the end of the season, Ryan Gerard Nick Hardy Nick. I think won this tournament and then would have promptly missed his car

I don't know if he had some injury stuff going on but There you have it. He went away he went with Davis Riley Riley Davis, okay that was 23 I believe and yeah, just still cashing that cashing that exemption just just missing cuts now These guys don't get major master's invites, do they? I don't think they get master's invites.

They did get into the PGA, and I think they got into the rest of the Siggy's if they were not already in, which I believe Novak was. Okay. There you have it. Not receiving master's invite. No world ranking points.

Also just needed to mention Adam Shankenck made an Albatross. Those are rare, so we're gonna call that out. Salih, should we move on to Liv Chapultepec? Yeah, I was pretty stoked for this this week, guys. I'm not gonna lie. Especially when the PJ Jordan broadcast went down. Yeah, well, I was just, I had a good window Saturday. I have a three TV setup out there and not to brag a

couple of them are 42 inches even but you know, ready to like all right, sweet. I can get three golf terms on this wall that can hang on the same mount. I get three on it wasn't on fucking TV on Saturday. I get you pulled to pack like I was just told this TV deals a very, very big deal. But I gotta say, I legitimately sought it out to watch this week and it again failed the test of just like, it's important that like the golf has to like, you have to be curious about what happens in the tournament to really like enjoy even a really a fun venue. And it just very

quickly was like, Oh yeah, the ball is going really far. And I mean, there's some nice names at the top, but I just, I've been through this exercise many times on live and I can't get excited about it, but, uh, not to race to the end there, but no, that's, that's pretty aligned with my experience. Walking Neiman. You did mention at the top wins by three with the final round 65 is it is it is it a damning for live that he is having the season he's having or is it damning more damning for him that he still can't do anything really in the majors yeah I have a beholder situation they're big I would say yes yes just go in there in there. Brody, yes on that one. No, it's his third win in six starts

to that end, I believe his fifth on live also when Randy's vaunted Saudi International. You know, it is big. It's a waste. It's a big waste of just like, dude, I'd love to see how that would stack up week in, week out on the PGA Tour. And I wish it wasn't so reliant on just like your results in the majors of what you're gonna view you. Like there's more golf that matters just than just, than only the majors. And like you're not proving anything to me winning a bunch on live. Like I know you're really good.

I know you're one of the 15 best players in the world, 20 best players of the world at most. Like I'd like to see you going head to head with a bigger pool of the top players more frequently. Yeah, it's more of a shot at like Rom and them. They're like, dude, how you letting this guy just clean your clock every single week? Seriously. Yeah. Bryson, we

drove the 462 yard 13th, very similar to the Dustin Johnson Kapaluwa shot, kind of the over the hill par four down to the green that then kind of comes back up. Amazing, amazing shot. Bryson was clearly trying to do the same thing here today, just blew it so far right, was sick. This was, I believe he was leading by two at this point. And had a retie, ended up making double,

then he three putts the next hole, and it was kind of a, he still had a chance, he got to 16, he had like 180 yards into this par five. And again, just blew it so far right, with like what had to be, I don't even know, like an 800, 900? 180? Yeah, 900. Had to do, I don't know, like an eight iron? Nine iron? One eighty? Like it had to be a kitchen wedge at most, right?

Blew it. Maybe the Liv, I don't know if their shot tracker was like right on that number. It looked like more of a long iron, but I guess all those fucking irons are the same length, so it goes. But blew it so far right. It had to pitch out, had to scramble for par. It was, again, was sick. And I will shout out, compliment sandwich here, we'll pitch out, had to scramble for par. It was, again, was sick. And I will shout out, compliment sandwich here,

will shout out Liv's website has just completely ripped off the Masters, like click into the scorecard and we'll just show you every shot, end to end thing. It's very cool and very additive, especially if you don't watch the broadcast. So I would encourage people to go watch Bryson's shot in the 16, which was wild. But Neem and then Birdie 16 go two up

and then Birdie to the knockoff watering hole 18 to. What did they do? Did they start on 18? I don't know. They may have sacrilegiously changed the routing of Chipotle Peck. Wow. Hate it. You don't do Wow. You don't do that.

You don't do that. You just don't do that. You don't do that. Exactly. That's exactly right. Any other thoughts from Liv, from your gentleman? Who was the team winner, sorry? Oh, Lesion13 was your team winner.

Thank you, Pig. So some consolation for Rom did not, uh, did not get the individual race quite over the line, but I'm sure it is the name on the front of the Jersey, uh, that matters most at the end of the day. I remember you said this in our chat, but like how jarring is it just to randomly like see Anthony Kim playing golf every time I forget about it for months on end.

And then I'll be scrolling down a leaderboard, just like, whoa, I said to you guys, there's like this famous strip of bars in Milwaukee, Brady Street, that apparently there's one, I won't name it to protect the innocent, that Latrell Sprewell just hangs out at like all the time. And that is kind of how I feel like seeing Anthony came on the leaderboard and just like, Whoa, is that? Yeah, no, that's him.

Huh? Six over today. Whoa. Um, remember that? Cabana guy was nasty. Remember that guy? It was kind of, I don't know. Interesting, interesting times.

Can I also say I hate what Liv has done with Chipotle pack. Like it is in way too good of shape compared to how it was on the PGA tour. Like part of the whole deal here was that this place looked like a Muni. This place looks pure now and I'm not having, I'm not here for that. All right. That this is, this is gentrification of my, of my famed Chipotle pack. One of my favorite golf courses I've ever watched tournament said, look like they made the greens bigger too. They look like real greens.

No, I don't like that. I don't like that. I know it's it's kind of stripped the soul out of out of a classic design. It's less tree line. It seems like now but uh couple other news and notes as we as we land the plane here, you mentioned at the top solid Johnny Kiefer, absolute predator on the corn fairy tour, wins by three at Cody's beloved Texas Rangers Golf Club. Five-way tie for second, which was very interesting.

First of all, Kiefer got to 30 under for the week, which is kind of an LOL. We've got to challenge these guys. He quickly moves up to number two on the points list. Three top tens in his last six starts. Watch out for him. I want to hang on to that one. But among that group at T2 was TC's guy, Blades Brown, 17-year-old who opened with 61 and then shot a little closing 63 to finish

T2 on the corn fairy tour. I was so bummed out today when I realized he was born after I graduated high school. Tough, tough L for me. But yeah, Blades Brown doing it. Sorry, there was an interesting note. I don't know if you if you have it up in front of you. But the Ryan French money Q info was was raising a super interesting question related to Blades Brown.

I will find this here and I'll read it. I got it right here if you want it. In the case of the golf one, he reported, he said, super interesting scenario on the Corn Fairy Tour with Blades Brown. He said, Blades currently fourth with one hole to go, ends up finishing second, blah, blah, blah. But leaders are good. But he will probably finish around seventh or so, so he said. But this finish would put him within striking distance of becoming a temporary member of the Corn Fairy Tour. But, Blades got an exemption into the Byron Nelson next week on the PGA Tour. However, with his finish on Corn Fairy this week, it's automatically, he's automatically into the next week's event, and being so close to becoming a temporary membership, it might be worth skipping Byron to play the corn fairy tour. It's another huge reason is that non-members on corn fairy tour can get no more than four exemption and Brown has already used three this year. So if he goes to Byron,

he would only have one more start on the corn fairy tour to earn the points needed to become a special temporary member. It'll be interesting to see what he does. Just to tie that off with some finals. So he's like 50-ish, 53 points short of temporary corn fairy tour membership, which means that you can accept unlimited sponsor exemptions. So to get that many points, he'd roughly need like a top 15 finish. So to your point, or it's all like what just reading there is like, he's basically as of now, he's got like one more start, one more sponsor exemption to get that top 15 finish and then kind of set yourself up for the whole rest of the year

on the corn fairy tour. So it's just super interesting to see what he's going to do. Is he going to play Byron Nelson? Is he going to basically try to do a two for one since he has a free pass into next week I think they're in Mexico It kind of seems like a no-brainer to just take an extra corn fairy tour Starts but also they play for a lot more dough on the big tour. So I don't know super interesting And you also don't want to piss off, you know CJ cut, you know a sponsor that's willing to give you a sponsor exemption and you bail on that.

It is an interesting spot, like, but if you go just earn your blow through it and earn your tour card anyways, eventually may want to skip the CJ Cup anyways. You might be exempt. I don't know. It sounds like you should probably keep stay on the corn ferry and go for that. But can I actually Cody, can you pop in for a sec? Because this was not that was not a Cody goes out to Texas Rangers all the time, I believe. Can you put 30 under par into perspective? Does that like does that shock you? Or is that like, that's kind of what I was picturing? Yeah, I don't know anything about the golf course. course, it's not difficult by any means that they have it stretched out as far as they possibly can. The greens are not crazy by any means and and you can go super low out there. The cool thing about it though is that like, yeah, I know this is

we talk about this when we're talking about Houston and Memorial Park. And people joke around all the time about Texas Rangers Golf Club and like, why the heck does an MLB own a golf course? Well, they don't own it. You know, the city of Arlington owns it and it's one of those cool public-private partnerships that makes it so one of the few munis that we have in town is like always an incredible condition because the corn fairy tour goes there and there's a lot that kind of goes around with it. But on the blades thing, let me ask you guys this. Would you rather drive across town literally like 17 miles

or get to plan a flight or get on a plane to go to Mexico for the week? Well, I don't know. It could be a short term decision because you might be driving a fuckload more if you don't get your corn fairy tour card, trying to beat mini tours or you know, figure that out next year. So you think he's really worried about like, getting status? Like he's eventually, he's gonna be okay. Eventually, but eventually, you want to just go ahead and get get it taken care of would be a really good thing. Yeah, yeah,

that's a great point. We'll see. I counted each to your point, I counted eight different sixty-one or better rounds out there this week. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's good. It's a lot. Uh it's all you mentioned this up front as well on the DP World Tour. Uh Marco, well how'd you pronounce it? I was in my head. Penne? I went for Pinge and I'm sure that's wrong now that you say that but. Pengay. One of those. Anybody else have any nominees? I'm abstaining. Wins the Hainan Classic. You did mention this. His first win on the DP World Tour and is made notable by the fact that in December he was suspended by the tour for three months after placing multiple bets on multiple golf tournaments. It sounds like tournaments like he was playing

in, never bet on himself and never bet on what he never bet on the progress of tournaments during days when he was participating. So kind of seems like maybe just watching the range and just like, Oh, that guy doesn't have it. Which is, which is interesting, but hey, you know, served his time, big recidivism, we're back and he comes and gets a dub and gets into the PGA Championship along with Keita Nakajima and Yohinio Shikara, who has gotten a lot of burn on this pod recently because he is playing some really good golf since leaving Liv and kind of trying to play his way onto the PGA Tour. So we shall see, you know, just another name to keep an eye on as the PGA is around the corner. Last thing, I think in the notebook here, update from KVV.

Flying the banner, man. Bethpage State Park has made an announcement they are going to make some changes to their tee time booking system while not directly crediting the podcast. It's pretty clear that these changes are made after shining a light on some of the nefarious bot activity going on with the Bethpage booking system. They're now going to require a $5 deposit for every tee time made. It gets credited back to golfers. Uh, when they check in, if you, if you missed that episode, the point is, uh, there's just no chance for regular Joe's like you and I, Randy, to, to book these tee times. Cause as soon as they go online,

the bots are just hoovering them up and then they're selling them to other people and it's a resale market. It's just kind of a disaster. So the thought is by, you know, charging a little bit of a deposit, hopefully you get some more human beings booking these things. Probably not perfect, but a step in the right direction. Also sounds like tee times must be canceled within 48 hours now, not 24 hours because that was the other thing. All these bots are just booking everything up and then if they don't feel like playing, they just don't play. So I think golfers who don't show get charged like $15. You can't make a new tee time until you pay that so I Don't know. It's gonna make a huge difference. Who knows but seems like a great start. Hopefully the beginning of

Kind of turning things around and making things a little more accessible for the good people of New York. Yeah, that's good. I think this is a true praise progress. Absolutely. It feels good that a difference can be made and it's not like completely throw your hands up at government getting involved and actually solving something that is a very clear problem because you get a pretty defeatist attitude in a lot of those scenarios. So congrats KVV. You worked his butt off. I know a lot of people up there that helped along with the podcast as well are hopefully reaping the benefits of some of this. Yeah. A couple of housekeeping things. I just want to give a shout out to the Bourbon is

an event that I played in this week, refuge roost event. One of my favorite rounds of the year. You never know what you're gonna get for whether it's snowed before. It's usually like so shitty this week. This year it was like, it was so nice. The sun was out. It's at Spring Valley Country Club down

in the southern part of the state. And it's just, it's an awesome group. And it's the reason I bring it up is go join a roost. If you haven't yet, you know, it's like a great way to get plugged in with a bunch of other like-minded golfers in your city. I will say it takes a little work. We're not just putting ads in the newspaper about where these events are so you can show up. You got to get in the refuge.

You got to drum it up. Go forge some relationships. But every time I go to one of those events, and yesterday was no exception, you just walk around and you're like, everybody knows everybody. And it's just from setting up these events and these guys have all now been friends for four, five, six, seven years just from playing these types of things.

And it's just, it's awesome. So shout out to Greg and all the people that set up the bourbon, because it's one of my favorite events two questions Bourbon and spelled B. You are B. A. N. I'm just curious on the name of that and to how did you play? great questions One so the exact story I might get a couple details wrong with the the fine points are I think it was the original owners of the golf club, the Spring Valley, was built like 1920-ish, 1925, something like that.

It's a Langford and Mereau golf course, so it's got all these like crazy steam shoveled, pushed up greens, no bunkers. It's awesome. But believe the owner of the golf course was I don't know if it was a farm horse or a racing horse that he had. But he had a horse who he self glossed greatest horse who ever lived. And that horse is buried behind the 14th T. There's a headstone there, you know, dedicated to bourbon, the greatest horse that's ever lived. So all the guys from the summer club who played this event, bring like really nice bottles of bourbon and they're all set up as this memorial. You get to the 14th hole, which is drivable par four. And you know, everybody's

like taking shots and everybody there are guys dressed up like jockeys this year. There's just it's it's so fun. And it's it's great to your second question. I played totally fine. I think I got a feel, you know. We're going on a trip this week. We're going to play some real high end, you know, checklisty type of G this week, Randy. And I think I got a feel that's going to sustain. It's not super sharp. But I also will say Spring Valley is like, the greens are this big and they're also like rock hard and the rest of the golf course is mud. So it's like, you can't hit the green, but if you like, so when you miss, you also can't

just take it. Let's take the Chevron there next year. Truly. It would be electric, but it's so fun. It's hard to explain because like everybody plays awful,'s it's so fun. It's great. Dej, that swing you posted on Instagram was it was something it was something the steepness is is remarkable. Sure. But it's just it's gotten so repeatable, man. I don't want

to change anything. Kind of kind of middling right now. I can't wait to see all your progress. But that's it. So here's what I will say. I know we don't have a stack ad tonight, but the best example of the stack, we've sincere point, we've said this over and over and over, is like, I felt like I was swinging my driver, like I was swinging an eight iron or a pitching wedge. Like I was truly just like cruising

and the distance is like, is there, it's what it was before, which is kind of the goal. It's not like I'm stepping up there and just like, watch out, fucking far this one goes. It's like, no, you're just like, just trying to hit a cruising speed and like feel where the face is. And I will say that, you know, not every, not every shot, you know, if anybody saw my opening tee shot, it was a little, you know, pretty far right. But, uh, there were many, many highlights outside of that. So anyway, yeah. Thank you for asking big. The roofs are great. Get involved. Truly. Absolutely. It's a great way to make some adult friends. Not always easy to make friends.

Hard to do later on in life. Speaking of adult friends, uh, we've also got strapped airing this week, which is very, very exciting. Airs Wednesday night, April 30th at 8 p.m. Eastern time on our YouTube channel. It's all one. Yes. Take it away, Big. Please. No, it's all I just want to get out in front of this. It's one film. My friend DJ made a film and we hope you enjoy it. Real film, Jack. Yeah. We're trying something new. I'm excited. I'm excited. I think you guys will, you guys will like it. So a lot of fiscal responsibility, Sally, which I know you'll like. Yeah.

I gave up trying to pull. I mean, you guys broke the spirit of this thing. A long time ago. There's nothing really left to left to police anymore. You guys do what you want with your little, with your little project. I thought they've been really good. You know, I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not trying to, I mean, you guys broke the spirit of this thing a long time ago. They felt they really left to left to police anymore. You guys do what you want with your little project.

I thought they've been really good, you know, inflation going on tariffs to play now. So I mean, there's a lot that the strap boys got to got to balance and get through here. You know, that's 60% inflation, we got 60% inflation, we saw the tariffs coming. So we're planning for that. Did your guys Airbnb have a pool again this this go around? No, okay. I was like what ready five thousand square feet. Oh my god. There's so many rooms There were wings of that place that we never saw the thing we noticed which I don't know if anybody's remarked on it

Everything's bigger when you get to Texas. It's crazy man. Never heard that it's crazy. It's crazy No, I think you'll like the first day of Ravie though. It's good stuff. I'm very excited for the people to watch it. It's awesome. I'm happy the boys are back. Hey, the other thing, so Stratback obviously talked about that, Solly and KVV are back this week as well.

We're doing another Deep Dive episode. Solly, what year are we looking at? We are onto the new millennium. We are not afraid of Y2K and we are covering the 2000 majors that'll be out this Tuesday night into Wednesday. A feline character had a great year that year allegedly. I don't want to spoil too much of it, but we dive deeply into that and some great Jack stories and everything from the year 2000. Rumor has it that Jack was still active so like 2013 or something so I can't wait to listen to

that. 2015. Correct. That was his last. That was so good. Correct on the Trap Draw for all of our Trap Draw fans out there. I believe we're gonna have a Seamsters back as the MLB season is finally starting to go there. And I am well aware, guys, we're edging very, very close to the No Laying Up podcast episode 1,000, 1K. We already have it in the can, we're recording, I'm very, very excited for that episode to come out. Congratulations, of course, to Solly and the rest of you boys who carried a large load getting that thing

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would love to help contribute, that would be awesome. Yeah, the guy, guys, I'm so excited. If us bitching about golf stuff got to send the kid through college, they'd be really freaking in perpetuity. If we can do it. It's it's endowed forever, baby. Yeah Chevron can shut us down Chevron if Chevron, you know doesn't match on whatever we can raise then we'll stop about the turn Now that's a start. There we go. There we go. We'll hold it hot. We'll sell out. I don't care I'm so excited guys

It's honestly I think I'm gonna take the next two days off because it's one of those rare occasions where we got one group on their way home and the other one out the door and guess what? We got nothing to do. AC, George is gonna be playing some golf. Get out and play some G. Let's go. Go shoot a 61 at Rangers. Yeah, exactly.

Talking big game about how fucking easy it was. Stay tuned for that. But there is something going on, Randy, that I know is near and dear to your heart that I will be monitoring and providing you updates along the way. And that of course is the PGA Professional Championship that kicked off today at Porn St. Lucie. Four rounds there. And guess who is tied for the lead coming out of the blocks.

You know, Mar Michael Block. What's up shooting and opening round coming ready or come? I even said how the blocks not do well. This is going to get him into the PGA right or is he still exempt? Chase Sapphire shot of the day. the PGA. Oh, wow. This is going to get him into the PGA, right? Or is he still exempt? I think

it's a sapphire shot of a day. Got him a three-year exemption. Well, you got three for that and then for the greatest up and down ever. That's true. Another two or three years. Uh very very true but I I bring that up because you know what guys

we're going to be live at the PGA Championship this year. That's right. No laying up live Thursday evening at Platform Sports in Charlotte. If you happen to be in the area, if you planning on coming to the PGA Championship, come through, we're going to be there live as soon as coverage wraps there, it's going to be fun. But for all of our normal listeners, we also, it will be live streamed here on YouTube as well as put out as a podcast afterwards. So who knows, maybe we'll see Blocky in person again. And you know, I don't know.

As we get to it now, I'm starting to get this. I have to come on pods. Well, yeah, maybe Blocky will. I don't know if he can fit us in there. We might have to pay him or something like that, but I'm pumped guys. It's gonna be great can't wait. Cody please don't update me I don't want to ruin my trip it's gonna be a fun trip. I will don't worry. Somehow we forgot to discuss the TIO situation on the 72nd hole from the Hoy guards on the Zurich today but not guys It wasn't good. Yeah put that on on TC's list. I'm not

Carter Everything out you're on texting me. I think he was planning to do a whole episode about that Okay, I just want to make sure people knew that that was yeah, watch your feeds that I think that'll be right He's still gathering sources, but I think maybe Tuesday or Wednesday Guys I'll see you guys in a different land here Guys, I'll see you guys in a different land here. Yeah. So much, somewhat closely, shortly. And we're going to do an in-person seamsters when we do, when I do see it.

I can't wait. Special guest. Great guest. A real ball-knower. So, all right. Thank you everyone for tuning in. Thank you to High Noon, FootJoy and ServePro, Cody running the ones and twos, Matt running the socials behind the scenes, Mr DJ pie mr. big Randy we have put the

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