No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 10: Kyle Porter – Ryder Cup

Episode Date: September 18, 2014

Kyle Porter from CBS joined me to ham it up about the Ryder Cup (sick of this yet?), the PGA Tour Season, and a completely off the wall #TourSauce conversation. The latter part is mostly... The post NLU Podcast: Episode 10 (Kyle Porter – Ryder Cup) appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most! Hi, welcome back everybody, this is Noel Layna Pahquez. We have back the second time from GBS.com, Golf Riders, Kyle Porter, Kyle Bigg event coming up here very soon. How excited are you for the Web.com tour championship coming up this week? Well, I'm bomb that I believe it was chess and hat was a chess and hat who can't defend his

champion shirt from last year. Did he win it last year or am I thinking of somebody else? I think it was, I thought it was the John Peters neither won the money title or won the tour championship. I don't remember which one it was. Well, whoever, I mean you can't defend obviously because you're hopefully you can't defend because you're playing on a DJ at your rhythm next year. So, yeah, I'm fired up. Web.com finale, you know, it's going to be fun to see you get some of the DJ's here for the 2014-16 season, which I think starts what, tomorrow morning?

Yeah, sometimes I think, I doubt any of the Ry of cup players are going to be playing in that first event, but it's basically before they get home the 2015-2014-2015 season is going to be underway, which that's that did. If they play the Sunday matches, if we make it all the way to Sunday, so... Yeah, that's actually in the air right now. Well, where do you stay in as a now? The last time we talked, we wrote the UST about about three months ago. And since then, I have gotten closer to convincing myself that it's going to be a good match that we could win. And since then, I've drifted back further away.

Where do you currently stay in? I actually am kind of like you. And I really have been looking at it and trying to talk myself into it and I just can't do it. I think there are a couple of things that the US team does have going for it and those are, I think most of us go back to the old building stage. A lot of it is theory. You got the Ewing theory with no target wood.

So Tiger's out. You have the best player, maybe ever not playing. So there's a point to rally around there. And you saw that in 2008, Granted, it wasn't as good of a European team, but no tiger. And that's the only time the US was won since 1999. But then you also have the nobody believe in the North Korean. And I think you saw that a lot from Keegan Bradley. Whenever they have that ridiculous captain's big thing with Tom Watson, he basically was just up there for 10 minutes saying, nobody believes in us, we want a redemption, etc.,

etc. And I think Tom Watson is the kind of guy that can kind of perpetuate that throughout the week and really get his guy get his guys violent to that. And I think that he'll get Phil Nicholson, some of the older guys, to kind of get on his side with Adam. And, you know, could that make magic happen, yes? But I just, it's difficult for me to see any scenario in which the US team won. I wish there was, you know, I think it'd be awesome,

but it's European team is so good, so good in match play especially, and I mean, the Catherine's face, I'm just not excited about it. I just can't get fired up about the three guys that Tom was in faith, and I think that really hurts the US team all to know. Yeah, and I record a podcast last night with Shane Bacon, so we may overlap on some of the topics. So basically what I said was, you know, based on when Watson made the picks, I thought he did what I thought he would

and I agreed with him at the time. And I was gonna give him a free pass on, that's what the system is. And so I realized how much control he had over the system and he was basically in charge in some capacity of setting the data when he made his captain's fix and he came out today instead it wouldn't work logistically to move back the captain takes the end of FedEx cup and his reasoning to get I don't know if you saw this his reasoning gave the families need to plan yeah i did well i mean you know doubt since she found out that i don't i don't

know how that word but they get their clothes that the wise get their own clothes like from from polo and what that they don't even have to pack their own clothes you're just like bubble you do is pack their underwear right yeah i and the other thing that's weird, and I'm not 100% on this, but I'm pretty sure that he was, that's a lot of things was kind of one of the people pushing for, because they changed it from two caps and six. Did they change it from two to three or from four to three? So in O8, A'singer pushed to move it to four captains picks and he pushed the date back until

two weeks before. So it would have been like this Monday, this week's Monday, he would have made the captains picks. And for 2012, 2010 was the same. I don't know when they made the picks in 2010 and 2012, but I know they saw it four captains picked in 2010 and 2012. In this year, Watson basically wanted to get rid of the Catholic Fixed essentially and he wanted qualifiers on points and I think McGinley was kind

of saying something along the same same regards but he they lowered it just three basically because they didn't want as many Catholic Fixed which I just don't understand that I would think you would want more control over who's on your team rather than you know a guy that was hot in January orary that got in on point and this is a very good spot well and and he and that's what lots of effectively did was went on uh... on point i mean he'd be i mean other than

i mean that may have been sent in and and keegan were like you know if you go if you extended the point list eight people i think they were all included in that. And he just skipped over Chris Kirk and Harris English and whoever. So, yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't love it. I do wonder like, if, not if he had to do it over again, because I think you're right. I think based on when he picked, he would have done the same thing. But if he was picking on, on thisay the day of her or yeah but after that

horse or one of the true champion who would have picked it this is i mean you got a picture so that's one i think you could go to the end uh... and this is you know does he go main i'm and since then i just i don't i don't know i mean you and i are are pretty adamant about that shot he hit on Sunday I Mean that's that kid back to chill the career. Obviously that's child. It almost hit it almost hit me It almost

I wasn't even there I was downtown in that ball Yeah, so I ball on the uh... yet so i i do i do wonder if you would have picked if you have to pick on one day yeah no i think the system would have definitely been cut and i think i i think you have a hard time going to work or may have a record but at the same time when he announced his captain's pick he said to mayhem is like be ready to go all five matches which could could be awkward if he only plays one match now

after saying that, but there was no cut that either the, what is this BMW or the Torch Championship, I think Mayhane fish in the bottom 10 of both of them, if I remember right, I mean, it was a hit, a hot two week stretch and I said, that hot two week stretch and the experience factor and the fact that he's you know overall very good player just got a bad year. I thought he was maybe could pick but yeah he followed his win with a 54th place finish at T59

and at T23 out of 29 people so well yeah he's also big he's been strangely good at match play because I don't necessarily think, you know, I know Bayhands a very good player. You know, he consistently been top 40, 30, 20 in the world. They only got to play in all seven championship since the playoffs started. But he's not like, I don't think of him like I think Brewery or Phil or anybody like that, but he's been really good at mastery. He always plays well at Accenture and then his Ryder Cup record is pretty good, I think. I think he's got like four or five wins to only two or three losses.

Yeah, the combined record of the three captains took on things was like seven, five and three. So they do have, you know, they were all on losing teams all in the same amount on the winning OAC, but that's actually pretty impressive considering have, you know, they were on losing teams all in the fan, on the winning OAC, but it's, that's actually, that's pretty impressive considering that, you know, they lost in 10 and 12, and if they've those guys have winning records, but I think what the team, you're seeing that does have going for them is, you know, your team isn't coming in exactly place, you know, I mean, like, Polter has quietly had a really, really iffy year. I know he turns it on every year at the Ryder Cup, but I wouldn't rule out that he could,

this could be the year where it kind of slips on him. I mean, he's really shown no form any recent top, any any of the recent months, make you think that, yeah, I know he has the magic wand in the Ryder Cup, but I'm not that scared. I could be missing the but words right there but he's gonna go five and oh no i'm not zero there's zero chance that he doesn't good the last three or four months of the season and so obviously he's got the experience having made the winning put in 2012, but you're right.

I think that it's, and I don't know who knows how much of that is, or when you actually get to the right of top, if it even matters if you're great going in, or if you've been playing well going in, you know, you saw Brandt Smediker after he won the Tour Championship because he's a captain's pick and then he goes, I think he went one and two in the right of top. So it can change once you get there and I think a lot of it is, you know, have you been there, have you made those pups, you know, tigers this week that I, I mean, he said it as only tiger can, but he said, I'm not, my instructors, but I, I don't understand what it's like on the back nine of a major when they have a lead.

It was a poison arrogant, you know, tiger thing to say, but it's true. And, you know, there are only a few of guys you know what that's like, so it'll be interesting to see how they handle it. Yeah, there are, you're right, there's so many variables and you could be like as hot as possible, you know, two weeks before the tournament and it'd be gone, come that Ryder Cup Sunday. And even like looking at prior Ryder Cup records it like you can shoot seventy five and win a match like if you're if you're up against the injured coltard or something like that or higher last year on Friday or it's in twenty- twelve on Friday tiger i think shots that's under something he played excellent

and is uh... the friday four-ball match in the afternoon and it was coltard's at sixty-two beat up it's like it completely depends on what you go up against. And like it's, yeah. So it's like making me funny last night for being very politically correct. And you know, A, they can happen to match play. But I mean, the way the matchups play out,

it's so random who you end up paired against. And it's really anything can't happen. It's okay. I was thinking about this today. Here's Tom Watson and the people running the advanced Rattacop comes to you and says, you can trade one of your guys for one of the Europeans for the week. Who would you trade and who would you trade him for? Oh, that's a really good question.

I'm taking Rory. I don't care about Polter's Rattacop history or that's a mess that needs to be with me. I'm taking Rory, I don't care about Polter's Ryder Cup history or a method you do for me, I'm taking Rory. He's a bus plier. And I'm giving up probably Web. I think I'm giving up Web. Not here? Not here? No. Look, if Furek sits forball, I'm fine with it. Okay, I'm fine. They're right. They're right. A couple of people should be at 30 for 30. It'd be a 10 for 30 or something like that.

That's what this record looks like. No, but seriously, if you back out, it's four ball records. One eight and one is career and four ball. That is unimaginably pathetic. It's not like alternate shot where it can really mess with your head. It's just four ball. Whatever reason he fails at this format, so if you take that out, he's 8, 9, and 3 in his career. So basically 500 record in considering how much the US is lost on the team he's been on, it's not terrible.

Like, so, in all to the shot format, who wouldn't want a guy that's putting it down the middle of the fairway every single time, right? Yeah, I mean, you're like, you're like, 380 out, but you're setting the... Yeah, I think I would give up, I think, where, and this is going to be strange, but I think I'm giving up for Grant and Dowl because I think secretly that McDowell is a big hit. I think he's kind of the heart of that team in a lot of ways. And not completely. I don't think you take him away.

You automatically get to your hands, but I think he really, really cares about it. And I think that some of the younger guys will look to guys like him and Strange has found Sergio who's getting what to see, 33, 34, but he's played a lot. He's probably playing six of those, seven of those, whatever. So I think I might take, I mean, the obvious's just Rory, but I think that I might take Grant. Yeah, I could see that. I have a random question I just thought of.

So what Lee Westwood would consider the biggest snub for the European team? So let's say you get the offer that Lee Westwood can be on the team. But it's a question. Do you mean Luke Donald? offer that lee westwood can be on the team but you know what i'm sorry a loop dot on can it can be on the u f t whatever you can put loop down the u f t but you have to play russian roulette and one of the random twelve that on the u f t have to get chopped off of it would you take it no i don't think so i would like to know that it didn't do a whole lot for me

i mean you i put the stat today that he made like 91% of his putt inside 10 feet this year. You can take that and you can have that. I don't know what is right or correct. I think it's actually pretty good. That's very good. But I just... No.

I don't think you can do that because you've got a chance that you lose a a fowler or uh... i'm struggling to help up enough i'm not an aim to i'm not a problem that i can bomb the house i thought you were going to go for a really good

i was but what what i need to pull this up what is brothers record it not that great i guess he's only been on two teams but yeah i would surprise that he's only been on and he's career five five and one doll he's he's a he's got decent success but uh... international soil just with the way bobby is right now i think you

i was literally so upset when he said he's gonna be on his best behavior for the writer cup because i was looking forward to this being a complete spectacle. For what? I'm forced to root for him, but I couldn't wait for just to see how big of a scene he would have caused over there. What do you have for the first... We find a way. We're throwing, not only are we coming, but a lot of content andure create at this event but we're throwing uh... this the scottish independence mode into the make i mean i don't know what's gonna happen like we like by the way i might not make it back to the united you might get deported though before the match you start

what what you're over under so so match is star i think one a m or two a m that friday over under so so matches start I think 1 a.m. or 2 a.m. that's Friday over under for the first uh... pray for 10th dot tweet. Oh god I mean I think it's gonna be part of like my uh... whatever tweet I send out before I go to sleep that night it's gonna be in my head time prayers will be present. I feel so excited. You were right. You tweeted this. I saw it.

The coolest thing that others ever done was having the crowd cheer for him. I'm a dying to Hatsy T-Daw. And it was all, that was true. That was a cool moment. Everything else was fine. That was really cool. And then he comes out and I get get like white people in the middle there but he's just like

i i feel he's just so toned up when it comes to the way that that that you know that that golfer's handle them so that is that all the points that roer and aqua right here so that ricky father hit he just misses them all and and he's just i i just i don't know i don't get it yeah i bet i was the hair that first the when he in polter pump up the crowd like it was the it was honestly probably the coolest thing ever so you can work in the i was

ten rows deep couldn't see a thing and i'd like to might the hairs of my arm are standing out the chance for so loud it was awesome and it becomes a big oh yeah i'm not gonna do that anymore but yeah okay well that's actually still what was your And then he comes out and he's like, oh yeah, I'm not going to do that anymore. Yeah, okay. Well, that's actually still for you. What was your, so you were at, you were at 2012, obviously. What was your, like, what was, maybe that was it, but what was the moment that 20 years from now,

you will still remember? Like, what was the best moment from that week? Oh, I was, yes, the easy one. Well, aside from that moment right there, which doesn't even fall off. It was just the sheer excitement for the first tee, but we sat on the 15th green with the dribble par 4, and we went way ahead and we waited for the groups come through, and the US came through and all four groups won the whole. So the crowd on this hole was absolutely amped up. And Kegan made that 35 foot pot where everyone seen this gif of it in the video of Pepsi swinging the flag around his head, like a helicopter. Like that place was absolutely hysteria. And he went absolutely nuts. And I can go, we're just chatting.

You are sick. And it never happens in a golf tournament. I've been to tons of golf tournaments before. It's just completely different experience. And like I've always said, the Ryder Cup is more about that fan experience than it is the golf course. You just almost ignore the golf course. Like, no one's really talking about Glenn Eagles at all

or how that plays. You know, usually we end up to a major we're talking about, you know, Pinehurst or whatever. They'll talk about Glenn Eagles at all or how that plays, you know, usually being up to a major we're talking about, you know, pine hers or whatever. They'll talk about Glenn Eagles, it's all about, you know, the atmosphere and just the pressure because it's not the course that doesn't matter. It is just a completely unique event and that's why I'm in the case, I was talking, I'm Shane and I talked about this yesterday too, I like to see the writer company every other year and mainly just because, well to have it only on US soil every four years, I guess it's just such a big

gap. I feel like it's something that could develop a lot more golf fans if you were able to tend something like a Ryder Cup instead of having to come to my backyard. Otherwise, I don't know if I would have ever had an opportunity to go to a writer cup. Yeah, I know. I heard, well, before I was talking about that, the flag wave, the Pepsi flag wave, one of my friends actually texted me today that he and his wife are pregnant and all I sent him back was like, was only for that gift. I swear, I'll have you listen to this in every email.

You're all I've seen it back was back then. It was amazing. Yeah, I do. You're right. I listen to you and Shane talk about that. And I think, you know, I think that you make it your point that way because it's only on American soil every four. Like, I don't think non-sports fans are going to watch this year because they have to get

up at $3 a million to do, or excuse me, non-ball fans are going to watch this year because they have to get up at $3 a million to do so. So it's almost like it's not really happening, but I don't know that there's not many people in the US outside of the hard-coded off-stands or paying that much attention. Right. Well, think about the World Cup. That's the one event where the Americans truly unite and tune in and pay attention to their country and international competition.

What's second on that list? Is it the Ryder Cup or is it, I mean the Olympics, yeah, but that's a lot of difference for it. Like, what other team event is, you can't tell me the FIFA championships are above the Ryder Cup. Is that still going on or what? That was that, that ended on Sunday as well. I got it about as many viewers I think as

unfortunately if you should do it. But you know, what is the event? Yeah, I don't know. It's not the world cup of baseball. If that still exists. I think it's probably something like if you want to narrow it down, maybe like US gymnastics or US basketball at the Olympics. But the need of that is kind of, and the other part about the world cup is that you saw this

year because it was in a similar time zone to where we are that I feel like that was a factor of many factors, one being that the US was pretty good. Why so many people tuned in and people talked about how when it's 2018 and Russia and it's on it one in the morning, that's not good. That's not a good thing for the sport. It is almost like a writer company. It only happens one to four years just because that's that's when Americans watch it is on the four years right that's good that's kind of good and that it's something about the team aspect in golf too because we really don't mean right president's cup the sepia trophy the ureza what i

right let's lump all those in a bracket that's extremely far below the writer couple like there's no real good team event in golf. And the fact that it's for your country too, that's why it's so awesome amongst golf fans, it's truly just the most unique event of the year. And I don't think it adds to the experience having it only up every other two years. If anything, it's like, you almost forgot about what happened two years ago

when the event comes back around instead of if it was annual, those memories, the Tulsa's eyeballs bulging through my screen would still be burned in my memory a lot more than they are having been two years ago. Yeah, I think you also eliminate this two year kind of running total of of a point system where it's like if somebody want to master's in twenty thirteen you know they get points towards the twenty fourteen writer cup which is like nineteen months away it's kind of a strange system

yeah but it's discounted fifty percent right like that yeah yeah yeah it is but i don't think anyone really got in on 2013 accomplishment if you look at it. I don't know if it looked closer, but maybe I mean Reed was boosted by his win in last August, but other than that, I think maybe in fill, really fill. His British open win is what helps him get in. I think Jimmy Walker got in, like in three tournaments in the number that nobody knew or even taking part

right but that's still this season now yeah no it's true uh... the thing i was gonna ask you is what do you what do you rank the writer kub not and i heard you change talking about you know what would you rather win but he he he could have been what are your top three you rather win but if you could I mean what are your top three sporting events like if you're picking three sporting events for the year and that you get to watch and all for otherwise they hesitate in the top three is it in the top five is it number one or would you rank it?

I think it's probably one for me just because of the golf factor it's not the best of them it's not like better or bigger than the Super Bowl, but it's kind of, a lot of my friends that I know I hang out with a lot will have zero interest in this, right? But I will be there on my cows watching this for eight hours because I've passionately care about it. So in that regard, like when I watch the Super Bowl, I rarely have a rooting interest.

I'm kind of just there to watch the super bowl and now love football I love watching it and I bet on it but like it has nowhere near the emotional attachment that I bet like the writer cup has so in that regard I think I mean definitely over like a world series game super bowl or an NBA finals game and I mean world Cup I get really excited for just because I got told you the U.S. Factor so yeah I would have to say this and the Masters is my favorite event of the year when there's in a non-writer cup year or so I would probably feel that I love the Masters more than I love the writer cup but those are those will be my two.

What's your take? Yeah I go Masters one. I think if we get to, if we get to include it as a whole, I can get an NCAA tournament too, just for everything that goes along with that. And you know, that's, so it's a bigger, it's a longer event, a month-long deal. So I don't know if that's fair to include something like that with a three-day event. But then I would probably about Ryder Cup 3. I think that World Cup's in there, but most of those, obviously, they rotate every two or four years.

So it definitely top three or four for me on any given year. Did you see Jeff hopefully compare the Ryder Cup to the 100 meter dash in the Olympics? No, I didn't see that. What's the announcement there? Well, he said it was an exciting event and sports. More exciting than it was Super Bowl. The only thing comparable is the 100 meter dash in the Olympics.

And I'm pretty sure that's the first time the golf has ever been compared to anything that you think has done or accomplished in the flight. No, no, I can easily see where he's coming from there. That 100 meter dash is over in 10 seconds versus literally 10 hours of golf coverage on Friday and Saturday. And there's not even a trophy given out until Sunday. No, I can easily see the analogy there. We need to do, first of all, we need to do our top 10 tour south ranking. We also need to do a top 10 quote to engulf. And I heard you and Shane talking about Rory and the time to deal and how, I mean, that was so stupid. We don't need to get into it.

But, you know, group of guys, Jeff Oglesvie has got to be top five in terms of guys that give great quotes about golf and who are really thoughtful, dude, just about this forward. Yeah. I think the guys like that are really like, we talked about it really hard to come by. I think the more you're going to see a microphone in front of Billy Orschold, the more you're going to get at that like the guy is absolutely fearless when it comes to

confrontation i don't know if you saw this last night so he just one thirteen million dollars or whatever on on sunday eleven million dollars on day he his wife went into labor as he got home on Tuesday he's literally it like waiting for his wife to give birth

and he weighs in on Twitter on the fact that d8 points was playing in the tour championship and taking the web.com tour championship and taking a spotlight from somebody like he just called him out his baby's little like three hours away from being born he's calling out to d8 points for playing in the web.com tour championship I love it. The point for playing in the left that comes towards the championship. I love it. Is there like it's fast? If there was like a third team in the right or cop and it was just Billy Horshull, would you read for the US or just team Horshull?

I would declare my independence in the real world. I'm pretty sure. But I mean, even like on Twitter, he entertains you so much because I tweeted something a while ago back when I was on the Brennan Todd train to the Ryder Cup about, I just like compared Todd's record against Snetaker and all events back when I thought it was going to be Snetaker. And I tweeted something, he just waded right at any of these, you can take Todd on your team, I'll take Snetetaker, any David ends and why. Like, what other golfer would weigh in on that?

And I give his opinion on Kepp's fix knowing that there's a risk that Brennan Todd would redone whatever. But I feel like he would say that directly to Brennan Todd's face if you want to, you know? Yeah, no, I did see that. It's really interesting, maybe because obviously you had the Rory controversy and the Walker Cup in our way.

I feel like he's got a little F you to, not that he's a bad dude. I think that people like him. I think he's very well liked and that he does get a little emotional and out of control sometimes. But so what? Like I brothers that in my gym for a close the hour out the course for five hours just hitting like 195 yard drives down the middle like that. I just and I wrote this on Sunday after it was either after the BMW or the tour championship but he's really good for golf and I had people haven't realized it yet just because nobody's paying attention because NFL's on going on and whatever.

But he's, you know, along with guys, I mean he's young, he's like 28 or whatever, and all the guys like Valor and Steve, like he's very good for golf and he's very outspoken and he's funer than he's in the most. I mean, he's a, I think I tweeted this, he's the perfect writer cup player. Like you could not, you could not give him a more perfect writer-coupler in terms of emotion and desire. And he just, I mean, he's basically our Ian Polter. And when it comes to stuff like that,

and it's the shame that we don't get to see that. Yeah, but I thought the way he handled that writer-coupler was perfect, which is shocking. Considering our man cars that we have, I thought Billy Moore's car, he's really shocking to take there, but like, he's not out of studies. I didn't play good enough in time, and he's right, based on the system, the way it is. I got to say, yeah, that perfectly. I just think, like, we followed him when we watched it. We watched him in the Hilton head this year, and he was playing horribly. Literally didn't

make a birdie for like two days. And just like his overall title in the course, he like approaches it almost like his briefs somewhere in his group is like a team game. And like he's always like really audible and like is rooting on the guys he's playing with. He's like, you're here guys with mudder under their breath, like good shot every now and then. But like, you know, if somebody hits a really good shot,

he goes like out of his way, be yo great shot great shot yeah I thought it was really cool it was like an awesome environment around them he's playing with Kirk and like Kirk is just like 30 beats a minute his heart beat like he literally shows not an ounce of emotion and like Horses like trying to get him going or get the group going in some way like he just couldn't do it but I think the more I can see how he could rub people the wrong way. I'm just like that situation right there. Like that probably didn't go over real well with Chris Curtis because Curtis likes to be on his own.

But I guess I think he's great for the game. I hope more people become aware of him. I just hope I was all so I was like it sucks at the season end right now for how good he's playing. But then you think about it you literally could not be a better time. You cannot make more money in three weeks playing golf and he just did. Yep, no. I mean, Bacon's fatted, I looked at it today. His 14 or whatever, close to 14 mil, or I guess he made, I think 14.8 total this year, including the FedEx bonus. 91st all time on the money was just this year.

So it's unbelievable. And yeah, it's a bummer that he doesn't get to be on the team this year. But if his form continues, people's form not continue but it yeah you know twenty what is it twenty sixteen right or go what do you know bring it on the well well well

but that's not just get over the twenty fifteen president's cup here in karmic come on but there will be there will be i'm still in this and she will be me you shame johnathan wall sarson and i get

and like i've heard it in watching the twenty fifteen president but like is there a way that we can you guys talk about this but can we like can can the American writer-couple be the American Australian writer-couple team? uh that's the only way we can start with even the even the scale here is like just become that exchange that Eastern hemisphere for western hemisphere can we have self-Africa too? Hemisphere for Sester. Hemisphere. Can we have South Africa too, ladies? We need to just combine with the international team

and just take on Europe. Anyway, think about me today. Well, all right. So it's talking about, I was thinking about this today, and you know, all of these were talking about loving horseshoes. And Alan Schipnik wrote an amazing piece today checking in on Anthony Kim. And I got to admit, like, when Anthony Kim was big on tour, I wasn't really nearly as involved in golf. I was still in college for part of it.

Just wasn't nearly as into the golf teams I am now. If you think we have a man crush on Horseshoe and we do, can you imagine what no-lang-up, how nuts we would have gone, and for Anthony Kim and his prime. Well, the ship not saying it reminded me that that that can be Sergio like five and four in singles on Sunday and away. I mean he just torched him. Well, the amazing thing about that was he didn't know he won when he won the match.

I remember I don't remember that happened in the time but I remember reading about it like this year or last year or whatever I was starting to you know obviously cover and get really into it but he yeah he was just I'll just make him birdies and he was just looking up and it was closer. Oh man you talking about a guy that just doesn't fit the mold that, you know, I think it's kind of just gif, because it's driven away by the scrutiny that the media kind of put on him and the expectations and just affected his lifestyle that really fit in with the rest of the tour, like, my God, how much could the game use a guy like that right

now? right now. Yeah, absolutely. And you know, he would be, or he is, was kind of Ricky Fowlerish, but better. I mean, he won more. And so, as an issue, he had had more success than Fowler at the majors. He was, as Paul A. Singer, calling, he was him emotional juggler, which I thought was just a really interesting description of someone. And just talking about him at that 2008 Ryder Cup. And obviously he went to OU, Fowler went to Oklahoma State. But yeah, I mean, it is a weird deal. And just the whole thing, like, I mean, Chip and I get a great job, he always does.

But it just, him, like, holding it. Like, I don't, I guess I didn't really get it because he was saying, if he never plays again, he has an insurance policy, well, if he's going to get a doctor to tell the insurance companies that he's not used to. So, the first thing he is, or that he is injured so that he can receive the money, I mean, how is that going to work? Like, I guess I just don't have i felt like i have more questions now that i did before

and i think it should not get a bad job it's because there's a there's a log on now there's uh... i i can't agree i i came away with a lot of questions from that and i've basically got a bit of a we need a gift of like twenty suits in a boardroom, like reading something and then breaking out in hysterical laughter because how can you read that and even imagine paying out that guy $10 million based on this?

Yeah, like, you know, but he's still under contract with Nike. Like, the whole thing is just, it's over over there and the people who are a little little closer. Let's back it up real quick for those that didn't read it. Basically, it has this insurance policy that I was assuming it's tied to injury that he's going to get paid over $10 million if he never returns to the game. The way those insurance policies that we work, like like I'll call it school ball players to take out policies, like basically if you get a career ending injury and you never play, you can settle and you know get that money from the insurance company.

But let's say you blow your character at your ACL but you get drafted in the fourth round, like you don't get like you don't get money based on how much money you lost if you would have a number one of all drafts, take, etc you lost if you would have a number of all drafts take et cetera so basically you would have to convince this insurance company that he's medically cannot go back to the tgator when it doesn't sound like a golfers career is a extremely long time especially in today's day and age and

like sarsam may be great points today is what eight years younger right now the jason duckner currently is yeah you can't tell me that his golf career's over based on the injury less it's a lot more severe than that article made it sound there's no way they're gonna like you know much legal battle you're gonna have to get that settlement

that that no one's gonna give them that money away that quickly one and one of you even get it i mean uh... what did you get it you come back then you've been healthy yeah the whole thing is is is weird um... but yeah i mean i hit the bummer because he was exciting that i do remember him i was at the masters where he shot, I think he shot 64 on Saturday or Sunday, but

he was, I mean, we ever really had a 59 watch at the masters. I don't know. I can't ever remember one, but I think he was kind of sniffing 59. I mean, he was like 11 birdie, I mean, it was sort of what he was doing. So yeah, I mean, he's as talented as they come. And it's just, it's us that, you know, kind of what it's turned into. Yeah, but here's the other thing I said. So that was the meaning I took away. But it's like, you guys not collect a minute or 12.

I don't know that much about insurance. It doesn't tell me like you're going to get paid on that. The next thing I thought of was, the scene I thought of was the scene in the Godfather where Michael said, and I don't remember the scene specifically, but I think he says different things to different people. And I think in Barzini that he said something to, and he figures out that Barzini's one that sells them out and barzini gets killed spoiler alert sorry

one of the chances one of the kids someone in the kids potty is going to floating in the back in his pool in his backyard whoever spoke should not have that i don't know that i can imagine can read that article that is that thrilled and he's going to be Trying to sniff out which one of his buddies ratted him out Well the details that he gave where he said it's the insurance policy is closer to 20 million How many people know that it can't do that mean?

Like it like I wouldn't tell anybody that you know, I would tell I guess like my my Very close to friends, but what is that like three people?, it's not going to take a long time to figure out who Shippenback was having barbecue with on the thing that he came down here and talking to. Like, I just, yeah, the whole thing. And we all joke and continue to joke online about somebody getting the ultimate Anthony Kim story and shouldn't have did a great job with it. He couldn't get Kim or his parents anybody like that, but he got his

close because without getting him. That's what I said. He literally did the best he possibly could with the story. Really killer, you could talk to Anthony, but that's not going to happen. I've always kind of been, he's just become this legend on the internet and he's just this guy, like I said, I don't have the, that's memory of him. I just don't really remember from you that speak and like, the more I research and read about today, I was like, can you imagine

like, I mean, like, you made the Fowler comparison. I mean, he was more successful in Fowler. Like, imagine a Fowler just disappeared off the plant, like God hurt and never played again. Like, we would do the same exact thing with foulard. Like, the guy just don't disappear from the sport like that. And like I said, your career is so long that we're used to guys hanging around forever, the Jeff Maggerts and the guys that just don't ever go away like to lose some young American start in his mid-twenties is just mind-bucked. Well, in the part that doesn't exist in me and this was kind of a, I don't know, a logical fallacy within it, it seems like he's staying away because he doesn't like the same and yet he drives a roll-dress around Dallas and parties at the crazy nightclub there. I've never even, I live in Dallas. I've never even heard of.

So it's like, well, which one is it? I get it if you're a recordist and you don't want to do the whole cell-mechal michael something and whatever but it seems like he enjoyed you know the pain that goes along with being uh... a great offer but he's still a returning to the true i just i i don't know it doesn't have yet you know who likes to say the most are the people that say they can't and having all the like

like i thought i thought that's like you can't stand the state that part of it but i think if you would trade his million the dollar fact that that's not the same no no one doing that that's tiger the same thing you're trading all those millions of dollars you know it's a not that to be able to go to a movie and i'll be recognized nobody doing that i guess i know i've i've wrote this last i think i wrote a last October. Would you rather be Tiger Woods?

Like right now, if you had to take somebody who you would become, would you rather be Tiger Woods or Jimmy Walker? Uh, Tiger, for me, because, like, so I have an ego as is. And I don't even play for, I don't even play professional golf. I need a talent of some kind to match my ego. So in that regard, I would want to be tiger. I don't think I would care about not having a private life. If I had that much money and I would have to be able to walk into a room and have complete

control over it no matter where you went. I think that would be pretty cool, that would be a pretty cool power. But I see where you're coming from. I don't know if Walker is the right comparison. If you would give me like, you give me like, Charles how the third or something has made a ton of money in golf, but can go out to eat and do whatever he wants. That would be a little, maybe slightly different, but I still want to be tired. It doesn't know as the greatest golfer of all time, potentially. I think I can put up with that. I've been able to put up with my fame so far this far in life.

So I think I can handle a little bit more. This is what you and Bacon said. There's more fun to find in the 20 handy captain, too, because with captain because of two heavy ego that is actually as good as you think he did. So by the way, I'll have to really hard to say. the twenty-hand captives shows up on the first tee in knock-of-four are two forty ten feet and make the birdie on the very first hole you play with them like somebody I know. And then I hit about two eight, you have a second hole to within like thirty yards and made like a seven on a part four. Yeah, it's what happened. up he like dog coaks his first drive hit the tree and bounce it out into the fairway literally got 240 in and he uh... he made murders before i had to ten feet and then rolls in the putt

and then he gets up to the second he gets like a three hundred thirty-yard part for the murder of the drive literally thirty yards short of the green and i got some of the play with the committee copy like uh... like a twenty and I was just like, oh Here we go. There's no way I'll play this guy for money And he's a procedure to make three chips and I think three putt and make that man Oh, the guy you know, you might be right Yeah, I'm in, I'm in, let's do it

So we've been talking about doing this for a while, we just haven't been able to put it in the paper yet, but the Torsoss power ranking. It may just be easier to talk about on a podcast other than actually talking about it, but we do need to get Sarson involved and put gifts to this. Yeah. Okay, so I think we can both agree Tigers number one, right? Like he eats forever in trend shit number one. Yeah, like he basically almost kind of invented it.

But like today, I think that the best torso is to me. If you listen to this, you know it's torso. But it's chiseled there. You know, it's basically like things you do on the golf course. It's only a tour guy can do. Like you did it with your buddies you would look absolutely ridiculous But it all started with me and my buddies play golf and we would just act like we were playing in front of a gallery And it became this this high game that became infinitely more funny And we would just keep trying to one-up each other as far as like the ridiculous things you could do on a course that a

Tour guy can do because there's a gallery there watching him But you can't do if you're just playing a force in with your buddies So you roll on a 15 foot birdie fight and your buddy says nice But it's the same thing like you wave like like you're in a crowd applauding for you Or if you hit a wayward drive you point so the marshal up in the fairway is gonna help you find your ball if you had a wayward drive you point to the marshal up in the fairway is going to help you find your ball since we wrote that article is become this thing of everyone pointing out any time somebody does a wayward drive point is still my favorite like if you do

the wayward drive point it's just like an immediate like i it's hilarious to me so we look we trying to rank the guys and do this the most of any of the guys on tour and Tigers definitely up there but it's a really sneaky underrated guys like Justin Rose and Speed are really really saucy had big years when it comes to the thoughts. Justin Rose is incredible. Like he's so underrated when it comes to... By the way my favorite point is that a way we drive is when there's a panorama of the entire sea box. Yeah. Thank you.

You have all three players, all three caddies, and like four Marshalls pointing at, I think it doesn't get, but it doesn't get better. That's our Twitter background is like, Louis Ustays and Charl Swartzville in every Marshall pointing point right for the waiver draft. One of my favorites is I don't know if it's Brendan Porath or Trevor from Tapping Golf that had a vine of two Marshall standing next to each other and one of them is violently

waving left like the driver's going way left. The other one's waving like it's going directly down the middle and they just start looking at each other, like having a competition for who can point in the direction that the driver's going. Wasn't that at the British Open? Like on Sunday maybe, or Saturday or something? I don't know. What I'm finding is... I'm pretty sure it was uh... it was in rory's group uh... may have been rory but i have a better show been speaking of vines from the british open maybe it

maybe the funniest viner or just like a little clip of the golf season was michael san you want to go driver at the British Open and and and and bone starting to say something and they just like staring at the ground from death silence even say anything it's like a six second vibe like I think drivers the play here it's literally just bone staring ahead in death silence But back to the, back to the church, I think whatever I write this and I am going to write it, but whenever I write it, Tiger is going to be number one. I'm not going to write any words.

I'm just going to post the guess of him from Harding Park, the, uh, as a president's captain, was it Oh, seven? Oh, no, yeah. was it oh yeah yeah he's a four iron from the fairway yeah he told it like forty five times some time from what he let's do to what he's agency he almost beat the ball to the green start chasing that big quickly look and your favorite car stuff yeah uh... two thousand eleven sunday

five-iron from the top of the hill it appears that it's right at the flag and he just starts to like lazily walk after he doesn't give it the full chase he just like starts to slowly move while doing like a shoulder shrug with the club twirl as he's walking. And it's just like it's the most big jam moment ever. I know that's still thing, but it's like, yeah, that's going within five feet. And he's just, absolutely sick. Like it was the coolest moment. He missed the pilot, of course, but

that is the last one. I thought bomb it's ever but uh... uh... we've had so much fun with the tour sauce just like to see it like we've made up forty five different things that can be done and there's filled new stuff that pops up that that we could be that we could add to it i'm really yeah it's been it's made you know kind of sometimes one day and Tournament's a lot of fun. And I'm glad that the people are in on it.

Like it's been a really fun thing. It starts and made all the gifts for, I mean, it's just, it's cool. I feel like it gives, and this is a, I don't, I don't mean this in a bad way. It's just like the younger, like more web savvy audience, like something to laugh at and have fun with. So it's been a lot longer. And my favorites are ones that the players are just honestly truly being ridiculous. Like the spike mark claim is ridiculous. And the one of Web Simpson, where he called his caddy into looking at the spike mark

that comes in the midst of that, that might be one of my favorites of all time too. And like whenever they hit a bad shot, they look at the bike park that comes in the midst of the putt, that might be one of my favorites of all times too. Whenever they hit a bad shot, they look at the lie, really confused, the first time they've all ever been in the rough. Also, I do this too. After a bunker shot, it's like wiping the stand with your feet as if that does something. The caddy stuff to get in there and rake. But why do people say it with your feet? I just, like, that's all that needs to be done. I think my favorite true self-knowledge this year, I'm assuming it was a true self-knowledge because I've never seen it happen before.

And I wish it was a way for you to make this your logo somehow. But with Baba making Ted Scott, he up his ball while turning on an umbrella. As he hits you, he hits you. I mean, the picture, I forgot to tweeted it, but the picture of Ted Scott trying to hold it on brother, he's like 6-2 and yet still trying to

tee up the ball. I mean, it was like a kid trying to measure how tall another kid is by like spreading his arms apart and going from the time of the test and the drive i mean it was only a that was that was about to be my favorite moment of the entire term it in ten defense you know we're a big test god how for pay we are like as always in our thoughts and prayers but in his defense the ball was already on the tee. I don't know if it's worse or better. It was already

on the tee and then when the ball started complaining about water being on the club table, he cleaned the ball off and then replaced it on the tee all while holding the umbrella over Baba. And then it still went in the water. Like I thought that bubble is going to be the water right after it that that round i think it was Friday's around because i don't think you made a cut for the right to get that was Friday yeah that round when it rained in and bubble i mean that was shit that was incredible that was incredible day for twitter for golf twitter

it was but i feel like we overdid to the point where that that kind of dominated social golf social media that morning and bubba fine and caught wind of it and like this that's kind of when you apologize almost a claim you're gonna stop doing it we know he's not going to at least he's a lot more aware of it now like the tide was really starting to turn on him a little bit the point like golf digest was writing articles about you you know, all the tweets that people were saying about him. And I feel like we almost kind of, we got in our own way.

Like all the street material he's given us, we like, we shot our load a little bit and now he's aware of it. I'm not going to give it as much material. Where does your boy, Borsal, rank on your, on your, on your on your to or stop power ranking. He's really not that softy when you know I can't really think of that much stuff that he does other than after every putt. He has to talk about it with his caddy. I love it. He's like he misses like a 40 footer and he's like how can't believe that broke that way but like he means that he doesn't mean it like in a in a blaming way he's just like he really honestly expects every putt to go in and he just you know he'll always be

motioning a certain way of some kind of uh some kind of animation of what he thought the putt was supposed to do but uh aside from that he talks he talks his ball a lot but he does to be yeah he does the two finger waves which is incredible the two what's that one of the problem like that like when you found the key box like you won't you won't give the full way for the hat hat at tip or anything like that is just a two fingers like and kind of turn them like he's like you know you're throwing like it's almost like dooses but he'll just like kind of throw it up and he did it

he did it on the eighteen green after uh... arad it didn't do it but he'll just kind of throw it up and he did it on the 18th green after he didn't do it. It was a tour championship when he looked at the crowd and like, Grin, or maybe he was looking at a caddy after he knew he had won. I feel like that was a little tour sauce going on there. Well, he does have an anti-sauce move too that I absolutely love. We watch him when we're in the hill in the head. When he hits three wood off the tee, he literally just throws his ball down and then he takes his three wood and like makes a tee out of the ground and then just the roll his ball onto

it. I think it was wet. It rained all the time here down there. It was falling and it ended up being somewhat wet. He literally just hits three wood off the deck. He makes like a little tee for himself. He would just smack his three wood, roll the ball into it, not clean his club off, and maybe we just go. And he plays so fast, but you're just

awesome to watch. But that's what he's talking about. You won't see it's like not to keep the ball up any time they can. Yeah, two final two or stuff that's one. Rory, we can agree, it's taking over the clubs twirl from Tyga, right? Yes, yes. My favorite was that you posted this one I think when at the PGA when the ball is in the air and he's like watching it and then it sticks to a foot and The balls already stopped rolling and many clubs world and then The other side is actually like Fowler has gotten sneaky. It's kind of sneaked up the true or false power rankings because he mentioned it earlier.

Every seven flutters that he misses, he goes arm in the air and am looks over it and just go wrong. Everyone, he looks back, arm in the air like i can't believe it broke out and you always you know she's not like you so like he's like throwing his arm out i mean he's incredible it's solid he's courses i mean he's learned he's got michael soon as as his you know he'll accept it so you he's learned from from the veteran i feel like i might think about michaelson really is a best thought he's not

guilty of that of that many of the youths. But yeah, so let's talk a little bit about what to expect toss-wise for the Ryder Cup. The biggest guarantee that I promise you you're going to see is a Jim Fierrick bad shot going straight to the rehearsal and the rehearsal is after the bad shot, standing there in the fairway and just trying to figure out what went wrong with your swing, like doing the slow motion, take back, like trying to figure out what went

wrong with your back swing, and you know, in every Miss putty he's going to have to go redo the putt. It's the one time of the year where you can actually redo the putt after the rehearsal. So that was the area in there. Yeah, Vegas doesn't have Jim Curric to oruric to herself right or kept on the board. They decided we were going to put them up there because it's minus 2000 if it was up there anyway. And then the other one is Keegan, he's king of the tragedy after a myth plot. It's not the settlement that the plot broke a certain way. It is literally like his favorite pet just died because it put his a lip of the hole it didn't go in

oh I can't wait I'm so excited about the ride I was thinking about it today and and I do some college football stuff I've got my own site for that that keeps me busy but I am so fired up for the rider cup and just, you know, I have no idea what's going to happen. I mean, we think we know what's going to happen. It's just going to be so much spectacle. It's just so much fun to watch and to cover and to weigh in on. So, yeah, I can't wait. It's going to be awesome. By the way, I do want to ask you need to tell the the presidential soft story real quick But the tweet you sent or the picture you sent

Yeah, oh god. That was amazing. So You just you said me a picture on Twitter. It's of Obama giving some kind of speech And there's a marine or it's some kind of military bed holding the umbrella over him I give the speech with the most serious look on his face while Obama is like in action mode with his hand With the speech and I was absolutely dying I think up from my desk and walk around We have to put all the stuff that we're referencing in the actual like podcast post So you guys have any some kind of ideal what talking about. If there's any more, let's make it. True false Ted Scott has that picture framed. That's Ted Scott's goal in life is to be there

holding you umbrella over the president of David Patello's speech and terrain. Alright, I think we've exhausted rider cup and its horse thoughts and yeah, if anyone has left the cup, that is the point. But as of the last one, thanks a ton for coming on as always. Yeah, absolutely man, it was a blast. I'm fired up for our 2AM Twitter combo, it's about the rider cup and yeah, let's do it again afterwards. Right around the corner man, we'll talk to you soon. Thanks for tuning in. Okay thanks a lot. Kyle Porter from CBL. Thanks guys.

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