No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 11: Kyle Porter

Episode Date: January 21, 2015

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I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Lang-Up Podcast. It has been a while. I apologize for the delay. Some real-life stuff has gotten in the way. I've moved across the pond and I had a little trouble with the technology getting this working, but we are back in running and who else better to have back on the show? Kyle Porter from CPS.

Kyle, what's going on, buddy? And not much. We are back. We've had a few technical difficulties, but what can you expect? We're doing a transit landing podcast. Maybe the first ever transit landing golf podcast and I'm proud to be a part of it.

I'm not even going gonna try to research that. We're just gonna claim that that's actually true. That's just that's just a notarized fact at this point. This is the first ever transatlantic podcast. But what were you telling me earlier about the fact that Ben Hogan used to have to take a boat across to play in the British Open? Yeah, it's hilarious to read about the guys who like had to choose between playing the PGA and the British Open because they were the same time and it took, or they were around the same

time and it took like three weeks to take a ship over to, you know, to Scotland or wherever the British Open was being played. And now we're just chatting about golf from Holland to Texas. It's pretty amazing. And what did you say was 70 degrees where you are today? Yeah, 70. I'm I'm talking I'm sitting in my office instead of hitting balls. It's at I don't know it's the power it's the power of no way enough. Well I think you and I are the only ones to have ever played golf that are not at the PGO show this weekend. That's true. You stuff, it's like, OK, I get it.

Like, maybe share a picture on Instagram or send a tweet or whatever, but I don't need 800 pictures filling out my Instagram feed from every single booth at the PGA show. And it's not anything that isn't available 3654 other days of the year. That's what just like all right guys. It's still golf equipment It's still the same stuff like yeah, it marginally improves year over year Do not act like you could be this excited about whatever's new this year. We're just jealous That's that's that's that's that's that's

Dr. We're sure they can hitting golf balls, you know next to King Griffey Jr And we're both just pissed about it. No, no, I'm talking into a computer. And it's at 10, 30 at night. I'm definitely not jealous of Shane playing golf today. So, well, I don't even know where to start. We've had a really, really weird week in golf.

I think we'll start with two stories that I don't believe either one of them. Let's start with Robert Allenby claiming to have been kidnapped and left in a ditch six and a half miles from when he left a wine bar in Waikiki. I don't know what the most unbelievable part of that phrase you just said is. Okay, so you say you don't believe the story, but I mean, I'm kind of with you, but I do believe parts of it. Like I believe that he was beaten up

and I believe that he was, I don't know if kidnapped is the right word, but abducted or whatever. I just don't think that, I think there's more to it. I guess I'll say that. There's definitely more to it. Yeah, I've seen the picture. I'm gonna believe that he was beaten up. I'm not gonna argue that at that point to it. I guess I'll say that. There's definitely more to it. Yeah, I've seen the picture. I'm going to believe that he's beaten up.

I'm not going to argue at that point of it. But there's been a lot of rumors flying around here. And I have a buddy who lives, used to live. He's on deployment now. He lived about 100 yards from that bar, he said. And all he told me was, when people get their ass beat around here, it's for soliciting prostitution. I don't know what the hell that means. from that bar, he said. And all he told me was, when people get their ass beat around here, it's for soliciting prostitution. I don't know what the hell that means. I'm completely

unsubstantiated rumored. I'm not even saying that's even a chance that's true. I'm just saying what he told me. There has to be more to the story. I just find it hard to believe that he would come right to the golf channel the next day to tell them he was kidnapped if it wasn't at least partially true Yeah, it is weird. It's almost like if you read it if you read between the lines. He's very And he used this quote of a bunch of times. We said it's like a movie. It's like it's like taken or taken to you left out taken three I don't know if he's not a fan He said it's like it was like, you know, you don't think this could happen, but you see it in like he said the word movie like three or four times and I was like

Okay, like I I understand like you don't what why are you trying to convince me of something or like what's what's going on? I don't know there's just I Wonder if he went into fully amnesia mode He's like if you don't if you don't let me out now, what I do have is a very particular set of skills. My short game is spectacular. My, I just, I know Adam Scott and he can beat you up. I was funny to me is I think it was like Aaron Price

or I saw a couple Australian PGA tour guys tweeting Immediately when this came out and said there is more to this story. I promise you. I don't know much about Alan But there there has to be something more to this story But the more fun story in my opinion is tooth gate Tiger Woods shows up at Lindsey Vons Tiger Woods shows up at Lindsay Vaughn's The Skying Event and without a front tooth and claims to have lost this tooth at the event without dropping a drip of blood anywhere in the white snow. I actually googled you know lost front tooth which is not a good idea but but all these images of people just bleeding all over the place come up. And I don't think there's physically a way to lose your front tooth via a video camera

that you got smoked in the face with. And it only hit that to... I think it's not even it's not feasible My favorite part though and this just came out is that like Everybody on team tigers is rolling with it like Lindsey Vaughan just wrote a thing on Facebook about how she's she's in You know, sorry about the video camera. It's like what like that? That's the thing you're going with. I'm shocked. Yeah, I'm shocked that she would take it She's a real credible source in this scenario.

But I think it was a Steinus Sternberg from Golf Digest that first pointed out to me that Tigers always had like a decayed tooth or like a yellow tooth. Like I never... I don't know how long he's had this. I really honestly never knew any of this. I didn't believe any of the tooth rumors that came out when Eland Gate happened in 2009.

But so the theory I guess that she had that I kind of believe is that he had had this tooth replaced at some point or it's a fake tooth and my thinking is he bit into a hard granola bar or something about the cold in Italy made that thing thaw out and he got bumped or something and it fell out and but I don't think for one second that was a real actual tooth that got knocked out of his gum. But why not just go with that stuff?

Exactly. Like, exactly. I was talking to my wife about this and she was like, why didn't he just pick a story that couldn't be confirmed or denied by anyone? Like, he was alone or what? I don't understand. Like, was Stiny like, like he was alone or what, I don't understand.

Like, was Stiney like, was he, like, does he have some champagne before, you know, people contacted him or what, I don't. There was, there should not, there not need to be a, like a PR rush to spin this, I don't think. He could have just said that he's going through a procedure on his mouth, he's getting a tooth replaced,

like no one would have thought anything of it, but you have to spin it in this weird way that no one's believing this. No one is buying this. Yeah. Literally, no. Do you think, I was thinking about this, do you think all of Tiger's teeth are fake?

I don't know. I don't care enough to look into it. I really don't. Because in the picture that you tweeted yesterday, even the front tooth that was still in, it looked like it looked weird. Like it was like, it was like, like you got hit or it was chipped or so.

I don't know. Like the whole thing was just bizarre. And then with one of my friends pointed this out to me, but the fact that he was wearing a skeleton mask that had teeth on it was, was maybe the most unbelievable part. It makes a lot more sense that he was wearing that mask. I think it was absolutely hideous, but yeah, it makes more sense if he was covering, covering up the fact that he was missing a tooth. But again, if he was just up the fact that he was missing a tooth. If he was just having a normal procedure over a tooth, I would not even bat an eye in

it. I would probably make jokes about how we pay way too much attention to this guy, but the fact that he showed up in public without a front tooth, or he was in public without a front tooth, it was too much to pass up on. Yeah. Well, the other part of it that's, and I feel kind of bad for him because he's like trying to create this good will.

Well, I mean, I'm sure part of it, he wants to, well, part of it is he wants to see Lindsay and part of it is like, you know, good PR, whatever. And even that ends badly for him. Like, he just, somehow like bungles that as well. Like it's almost, I kinda feel bad for like the way that things turn out. I mean, not really, but he just,

he can't do anything right, it's he's like. Even it all goes down to the fact that he's just so awkward. Like he can't pull off anything smoothly. He's like, he's not cool. He wears cargo pants and shows up wearing a ski mask of a skeleton on it. Like, he can't pull anything off, not nearly as well as he thinks he can.

But he's the kind of guy, it seems like who, like, thinks that the, like, he's not like wearing the cargo pants ironically. Like, he like thinks that they're cool and then He like probably goes home after you know Cookie or whoever one of his Markey I don't know he has all these you know buddies or whatever make makes What do you he called somebody? Yeah?

He called somebody at that like the PGA something like dusty or something dust and Johnson. I don't know it was weird But he reaches yeah, he goes home after these dudes make fun of them and and he probably like legitimately thinks Like man, I thought the cargo's were in this year, you know, like I thought that was a thing It just goes back to my theory that like, he's not really an actual like human. Like, he gave that up like 20 years ago when he became this, this prodigy that never will live a normal life ever again.

And he's such a robot with his golf. And he just doesn't know how to act in public situations. He really does not like, what's the one time that we've ever heard of him being like at a party that the, when he was at, when he went to the Met or whatever it was with, with Lindsay. He really does not. Like, what's the one time that we've ever heard of him being like at a party that when he went to the med or whatever it was with Lindsay and he got absolutely hammered and had to be carried out of that thing. Like, he just legitimately doesn't know how to carry himself in public.

It really is crazy. And I think it kind of points to like, you know, not that these are the only two dudes, but it kind of points to like, I feel like Rory is like the opposite of that Like he he does know how to carry himself and he is You know, I think I don't hang out with him But he seems like he's pretty cool and fun and and whatever and things are things cool between you two You don't you guys don't hang out anymore is everything alright or? Yeah, no, we're good. He's just he's you know bigger and better things. He's busy. Yeah, he's very busy.

But yeah, it just makes him seem, or I don't know, I don't know which way it goes, but I guess what he does makes Tiger seem even less cool. Yeah, well also what happened this weekend, Jimmy Walker won a golf tournament by nine shots. I don't know if anyone, anyone watched that. I didn didn't see I saw maybe five shots of the entire final round. Why why go up against so the month the Capelua honey tournament champions they do a Monday finish so to avoid the divisional playoff round of the NFL and have it run the same night as the national championship game in college, yet the Sony Open will go right up against the NFC and AFC Championship? Well, the Sony was supposed to end a lot later than it did.

They had, or I think it was, they had early start times on Sunday. The last, like Jimmy Walker's T-Time was, I think, 1055 local, which was bumped up a lot. The one that I don't get is the tournament champions is like, uh, let's go against nothing on Sunday night after the divisional games, or against, or you know, how state. Yeah, we'll pick Monday night. Let's do that.

And it's like, uh, that doesn't seem like a good idea. I don't get it. But I'm pretty sure the Sony was supposed to end after the Patriots calls. Yeah, I mean, I feel kind of bad. Cause it's a great start to 2015, if you ask me. We had two American guys come out and just ball out and walk her and back to back weeks really.

I was glad to see him get redemption because I kind of felt bad the way things fell apart for him at the Hyundai tournament champions. But how many guys on the tour can run out there and run off a nine shot victory like that? I mean, that was a huge field on a course that usually creates a lot of proximity near the top. To blow the field out like that was incredibly significant if he asked me, is Walker just a winter player? This is back-to-back years where he's just blazed the tour through this reach-around schedule. Yeah, no, I don't know. Not a type of, that's what we call it. No, I know. I don't know.

We were talking about this a little bit today because I was surprised, I guess, to remember that he had three top 10s of the majors last year, including a top 10 at the players. And then he finished, I think, tied for 26th at the British Open. So it's not like he thought the map after he won Sony and Pebble last year, but he didn't win again. Yeah, he just regressed a little bit. Yeah. It was still a fantastic year throughout.

It wasn't like, when Patrick Reed fell off last year, he fell off. He was missing cuts. I mean, I was legitimately concerned going into the rider. A couple walker was consistent throughout the entire year, but he's able to just get into the second gear that, I mean, what was that 187 career starts he had

before he won his first tournament. Now he's won four times in his last 32 starts. Yeah, that's it, that's exactly it. And I don't know, I don't know what to make of him. He doesn't, and I think you and I are big on this and maybe this is silly, but he doesn't like carry himself the way Like a superstar should you know, you he's like he's like posing and like astronaut gear if we're golf digest and you're like

I don't know like I guess I don't I don't really know what to make of that He's got no swag. Yeah, that's that's what it comes down to're attracted, and I don't even, I do mean that in a literal way. We're attracted to the guys that have, you know, bring a lot more to the game, usually off the course than just actual accomplishments in game, which is not necessarily a good thing from our end, but it's hard to really, I don't know, it's hard to, I kind of discredited him a little bit today on Twitter about the tournaments that he's won just because I saw, I think it was Steve Flesh was kind of bitching about how Walker's won four times in the last year and a half

and he's only ranked 13th in the world. And I kind of looked into it a little bit and the fields that he's won against aren't, you know, he's not going out beating Sergio Adam Scott and, you know, five, six guys in the top 10 in the tournament that he's winning. So is he able to just kind of take advantage more of these maybe easier courses in lighter fields than somebody who only plays 15, 20 times a year and is winning a couple times a year like Adam Scott usually is?

Yeah, I think so. And this goes back to the big debate that we've been having for the last year or so of like, what is a successful golfer? Like what is being good at golf? And I think too often, what it's placed on is how many wins do you have? And it's like, well, But how many people did you beat? I mean that's that about Rory in the last

Like six European tournaments where he's like 750 and three or something It's like sure my gosh like he's beating Literally everyone in the field except for three people and You know to me Even if you don't win those tournaments, I don't know. I see both sides of it, but yeah, I think part of it,

part of the reason I'm not totally, totally in on Walker is that you've won Sony twice, whatever. And then you've won Fries, and Pebbles legit, you know, that's a bigger tournament. Um, alright, I guess at a bigger name course, I don't know if it's necessarily a better field. Kid Rock, you know, plays it, so whatever. Burman. Spur, boom, the boom. But yeah, I-

Sorry, it was Jamie Kennedy from the European Thor that had that status pulled it up sorry and 717 and three with four ties in the last six months for Rory and the European Thor. Is that good? It's amazing and we don't give enough credit to be you know we do give credit to Rory because he has one but you know that was that was to be you know, we do give credit to Roy because he has one But you know that was that was a similar you know Fowler Ricky Fowler's number was less than that last year, but he had a stretch I mean at the majors. I mean he was he lost to like six total people or whatever and You know, I think more credit needs to you know in terms of the world ranking and the world rankings are jacked up anyway

But more credit needs to be given to finishing second third fourth in really good fields than winning a crappy one. Yeah and I think it does reflect that that's what the the kind of I started getting the debate on was that official world golf rankings measure your ability to beat your peers and it measures the quality of your peers better than it does just winning a tournament necessarily. Like I could be wrong, I don't know the math behind it, but I think it would reward like a third place finish in a major, obviously with the best players in the world, then it would like a win at the Sony. I'm not saying that's

right necessarily, but I think it just measures you against your peers more than it does an arbitrary stat like wins. I mean, wins can be kind of arbitrary. I mean, you think about like, um, uh, who came in second this week is not the same as Jimmy Walker coming in second in a playoff to Patrick Read the previous week, you know what I mean? Like, it's, uh, there's different value and in difference, the different tournaments, and it does the bet. It's not a perfect formula. I'm definitely not I find myself Defending the world golf rankings more than most people. So I feel like people want to be a power rankings It's not power rankings. It's not gonna fluctuate huge near in the top 50, you know, on a week-to-week basis Yeah, no you're right. I think my issue is just more with like the the two-year

Average thing and I know they I know it's weighted and that's built in or whatever but it's like you know Jordan's feast of dragging around that John Deere classic win from 17 months ago or whatever and it's like well what does that have to do with you know right now I mean yes it's it's weighted it's like 0 point two percent you know whatever of this total uh in in the world rankings. The other thing is like people don't need it's not a ranking system that people understand so yeah it's great for people like you and me and whoever that are following it really closely but nobody else gets it like it means nothing to anybody.

It really does. That's what makes me also upset. It's like, it does mean nothing. It really, like, literally, if you're anywhere in the top 50, I could be partially wrong on this. But basically, anyone inside the top 50 in the world rankings, except for the hero world challenge. Maybe that's it.

But anyone inside the top 50 has the exact same rights, All right. Inside of top 50, you play the masters, you play all the official, uh, the World Golf Championship events. So yeah, the real difference is 50 and 51. If you're outside that top 50, you're not in the masters. And I think it's top 64 play the match play. I don't know the exact numbers of all the World Golf championships. But if you're ranked number one or number 50, it does not matter. It literally does not matter. So it's not like you get an advantage being a one seed, not like a football where you get home field of vanjering. It doesn't, it does not matter. Yeah, there's some, there's some, I guess, like glamour that goes with it and whatnot. But it's not important. It's not, it's not tangible. Can you name who's number 51 in the World Golf Ringians right now?

Alexander Levy is like 53 or something like that. Are you looking at it? Yeah, I look at it. Is he like 53 or something like that? 52, 52. OK, I knew that he had a chance to get inside the top 50 and he kind of blew it there in Abu Dhabi this weekend. But who is 51?

Your boy, actually, it's not your boy, but Brendan Todd. Brendan Todd, he's my boy. Somebody asked me who the, this was a male bad question or something. I think it was a male bad question like a month ago. Who the four worst major winners would be? Like the four people who would win majors in 2015 that would be the worst in less Bubba swept the grand slam And Brendan Todd was what I'm on I'm pretty sure I mean it would not be good for the game I mean you couldn't get any more awkward like and Lanky and white then Brendan Todd would make like you can't make it any wider than it is golf and he somehow could make it even wider like if we have like that playoff between Chesson Adley Kevin Strudon and Brendan Todd it would be like that you talk about like killing the sport like that that would murder the sport

Execution style. It's it. That's it. Call it off. That would not be good. I think I was curious also what your take was on the whole Kimer thing. I think, so those of you don't know, Kimer at one point had a ten shot lead on Sunday and somehow lost to the tournament by two or three. It wasn't even that close at the end. I feel like people are making a little bit more big deal out of it than it actually is. I think it happens in golf, a bad fun around happens in golf. I don't think it's indicative of

anything. I think if you could pick an event for it to happen, you probably want it to happen on Abu Dhabi rather than the PGA tour or a major already. I think it's not, I'm not paying a count on Khymer on this one. First of all, what do you think, how many, what number of people do you think are listening to this podcast, the listening to the No-Layin Out podcast that don't know that Khymer bulletins directly on Sunday? Okay, fair call. That's very fair. I gotta set the seat.

I feel like I need to set the seat in time, I mean, That's very fair. I gotta set the seat. I feel like I need to set the seat in time. I mean, it's a background information. Some people don't follow the European tour. Us Europeans over here, man. We're up to speed on it, even though they don't play any events on this continent. Yeah, I was gonna ask you, what's the deal with that?

Like, it's like China and the Middle East. I mean, when are they getting over to your neck of the woods? I think they do honestly play on five different continents this year. And they don't come to Europe until the Madira Islands open in middle of March. And that doesn't even count. That's an island off the coast of Portugal. They don't come to continental Europe until May. This is the Europe.

Can we just like not call it the European tour anymore? It's not. It's not the European tour. This is the Europe. Can we just like not call it the European tour anymore? It's not. It's not the European tour. This is ridiculous. Yeah, it would be like, I mean, yeah, what does not the PGA tour like kick things off in like Chile or something? Probably because the European tour has rights there and the PGA tour does not. I'm telling you, they're counting that they're waiting for this global warming thing to catch up and they're going to have the first and Arctic open. They're going to do it. I'm telling you, they're waiting for this global warming thing to catch up and they're going to have the first Ann Arctic open. I was getting ready to ask you what now? I mean, I get it.

It's not warm in Europe right now. It's not golf season here. We don't have like California or Florida or somewhere where we where we I mean I was in Spain Like a couple weeks ago and South of Spain and it was not not warm enough for a golf tournament I did Sergio would have been freezing his nuts off out there. He would not have had fun What really I don't even oh Kimer. Yeah, I'm with you like I think that I Think I'd be worried if it was like Tommy Fleetwood or like Dubu-san is a bad example because he's crazy but first ever Tommy Fleetwood Mac or Tommy Fleetwood Mac reference ever on a podcast by the way go ahead. I'd be concerned if it was Fleetwood or like maybe even like speed or somebody that is

super young and hadn't won a ton but timers won two majors. He's won the players like I don't I don't really care. I mean, it's not like he was sitting on 17 at a major with a five-stroke lead and lost. You know, that's more of a like, oh my gosh, I don't know if I can recover, but this was like, hey, you played the last 13 holes in six over and somebody just played it way better than that and beat. I don't know, like I just, it happens, it doesn't happen very often, especially with that margin, but I don't really think it affects him going forward.

Golf's hard, I mean, it's extremely rare to see that. I think I'd be reacting differently if it happened on the PGA tour, but still, he's got the, like you said, it's not like it's somebody that's, if it was Fowler, oh my God, people would be having a field day with this, absolute field day with this.

Speaking of which, we need to, we need a win from Ricky Fowler this year because I'm getting, I can't keep reading the stuff that I read about him, I cannot handle it on Twitter. And it's not coming from the smartest people, but I cannot fathom how people still rip on Fowler for just having the one career PGA tour with him. Well, yeah, no, no.

The thing that I struggled with was him talking last week about how he and I understand like why he did it, but she's talking about how you wanted to have a rivalry with Roy McAroy and all this stuff and it's like He's beating you a lot. Like, I looked at their common tournaments in 2014 and Rory beating, I think it was like 12 to 6 or something. So I mean, it's not like, it's not crazy, but it's not, I don't know. Like let's just start somewhere else

other than the top. Yeah, I understand. Like, what's he supposed to say? No, Rory has my number or whatever. I don't think that. I just, I don't know. I want for there to be a rivalry. I want them to win all of them.

I want Ricky Fowler and Rory McQuartoo and all the majors this year. Yeah. I think it's different than Ian Polter saying, when I reach my fault, when I'm on my game, it's different than Ian Poulter saying, you know, when I reach my fault, when I'm on my game, it's just me and Tiger. I think it's a little different than that. Fowler is so close to really, really busting up. Remember, or 2014 was his first year with the swing changes

and he had his best year of his career. Although he didn't win, obviously. Yeah, I mean, the sky is honestly the limit for him. I think that he's gonna battle putting issues more than he is at ball striking issues, but I had no problem with him saying that. I don't think he means, I mean, for all we know the way the golf media tends to twist quotes,

it may have been said in passing, you know. Like I'd like to get to a point where there's a rivalry between us. I think he knows he's not, he doesn't have that pedigree to compare to Rory at this point, but he knows he can, he stood toe to toe with him at the PGA in the British. Like, Rory just didn't, like, let him in. He, a, a, a, Fowler couldn't have played much better in both those tournaments. He just didn't quite, you know, better him in those. I think he knows that he can go toe to toe with

him. He just hasn't had the luck of, or the fortune to, to get past him yet. You should, you should write a book about Ian Polter, I think. Dude, I could barely keep up with a website. You want me to write a book? You're like utter disdain for his... Explain it to me though. I don't understand it. I wrote about it in the mailbag this week. It's like, How can a person be so unself-aware?

And why don't more people call him on it? Like, why am I the only one fighting this fight? This is bullshit. Because he's just, I don't know, he's just gone. Like, the thing that the funniest thing that he's done in a while was the whole Twitter tie-rate last year. When his family was like trying to get back from... Oh God. Like to the... They were either going to Europe or coming back or something. And he was combining his wife couldn't take care of his kids because they

didn't have their nanny and like all this stuff and it's like, that resonates with like three of your three million followers. Like that's it. Like a 0.001% portion of your followers. That's not good Ian. Don't tweet that. That's what, I mean, I brag a lot. I brag on Twitter a lot. So I'm probably not the best source for this,

but I just can't stand to see people have such an unrealistic view of themselves as far as their importance. You know, like, yeah, we get it, you're rich. I totally get it. Trust me, I know this, okay? You don't have to prove it every day. That only makes you seem like a rich douchebag. There's a lot of other golfers out there that are way richer than you that don't do this every single day. Yeah, like I don't I don't see you know Actually what I'm like I'm glad Adam Scott is on Twitter like that makes me happy. Yeah Actually, yeah, I don't know if I can handle that What do you mean like if he was posting like selfies with him in his perfect life like I get upset enough at Ricky Fowler's like Instagram and Twitter pictures Like I know that I he's beaten me in life like It's like it's like Fowler's comments towards Rory as far as me being like, you know

I want like a life rivalry with Ricky Fowler like it's done is I cannot win. It's over And he's only what 20 20 26 Exactly and he's only 20 26 something like that. Exactly. Have you, we were talking about this at the end of last year, but have you come upon any new tourist sauce moves in 2015? I don't know, man. I've already had, I've lost track of how many parts we've

done, four parts to the series. So it's like literally 60 moves. Is there anything else left? Have I missed any torso movement? I noticed a couple and a y and I didn't write them down. There was one, there's a facial expression that somebody did after a shot that was like, I think it might have been Walker actually,

but it was like, you know, 195 out, he hits it to like a foot and a half. And he just looks over it like a fan or as caddy or something and just kind of like, um, he just kind of like raised his eyebrows like, uh, could have been better, you know. You know what? My vote of my favorite was I think Rory did it at the PGA or Bridgestone. Uh, I couldn't possibly get a gift of this to possibly do it justice, but he, he hit it, it's like he's sitting a shot uphill to a pen, he can't see the bottom of the flag. So he hits it and he thinks that he's like stuck it. He thinks

it's absolutely stuck. And the crowd doesn't cheer as loudly as he was anticipating. So he's like on his tiptoes trying to see the ball and like looking at his caddy really confused as to why the crowd didn't go more nuts for a shot. Oh, that is good. I need to do a better job this year of tracking the best tour sauces of the year. So we can do a seeding this year for the saucy's part too. It's really difficult because you're getting into like the minutiae, like the body movements and man, Sarsin had some great ones for me. I think it was from Abidavi, a couple of club drops that ended up like three feet from me. Yeah, there was Scott Piercey head when he hit it to three feet. He

dropped the club literally the shot went to three feet. Oh man. I don't know if I have another piece in me. It would take a lot of work and a lot of thought going into it. I'll try to take some notes for you and just just do you know. Yeah, try to take some notes. But it's funny to me how much it's like... So golf.com had an article that I think you saw it of Patrick Reed teaching them the club twirl.

Yes, it was awesome. Tour sauces going worldwide. I'm telling you. Hey, I do have a little bit of breaking news here. I haven't told you this yet. I wanted to save it for the podcast. Oh, God. For everybody listening earlier today,

did you put this on Twitter? The kept a picture? No, no, I have not. Okay, so you and I are on the same fantasy golf team. There's nothing more exciting than talking fantasy golf. We're on a big league with a bunch of people, Shane Ryan, Steph Way, Luke Cardenon from I have no idea if that's how you say his name from from golf digest but anyway our team were were the Brooks brothers Sarsson is the only one who also

were the Brooks brothers and you created an amazing Photoshop of yourself me and Brooks Capka sitting on a park bench I think think it was, as a Brooks Brothers ad. And Via, one of my contacts, Brooks saw this picture. And what you don't know is that he requested permission to use it as his Twitter profile picture. Are you dead serious? I swear to you. That was requested. And I told you, that's fine. Just know that it came from no way enough and give them a follow. Are you serious?

I'm dead serious. So if he follows you and throws that on his Twitter profile in the next week or so, you know who to think. Well, I need to make it a better Photoshop video. I literally put that together in about 10 minutes. So we, Kyle and I named our team The Brooks Brothers because we've been fighting over who the biggest Brooks Capca fan is.

And it's been a tight race until I decided to just join and follow in fellowship with my brother here and call ourselves the Brooks Brothers. And so when our fancy team came together, it was too easy. It was too easy to just name our team this. So I threw together this Photoshop, just as kind of a trash-talking maneuver for our draft coming up. And no idea that this is going to become Brooks Cup because Twitter photo. That's fantastic. Yeah, I hope you change it. He just he just wanted permission like he just wanted the kind of it's like seat licensing and an NFL

Staying like he just wanted like the rights to it. I don't know if it's actually gonna happen But if it does I'm gonna be we're both gonna be we're gonna like so we have the we have the twelfth pick and our draft on Wednesday night and We're it's gonna be so hard not to take him. I know that's our only chance to take him I think because we can't come in this cocky and call ourselves the Brooks brothers and not have especially Sarsson Sarsson's not going to let Capca slide by him in that third round. No, it's not. We got to take him with either the 12 or 13th pick or we're not getting them or or we just pull an rg3 and trade all future round draft picks and move up to number three and

they're two in the draft and take them. I heard he tears his ACL. All right so we know Capca is our pick to break out. It's not a sleeper pick anymore. Hopefully everyone is on this guy at this point. I got a few names, the guys that I'm into. Also some golfers that I think are going to be have good years. Who are some of your guys? That I think are going to have good years. Yeah, who are some like, alright so like,

somebody that came from the back of the pack, it's ready for a bust out year like, Horshull or somebody in on those lines. Well, it's not a, this guy isn't like, a sleeper necessarily, but nobody talks about him and he's one of your guys too, but Matsuyama. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy how little still gets talked about.

It's top 20 player in the world and he contends every time he lines up. It's crazy. Well, the problem is he puts, like, him and he's getting lessons from Boo Weekly, like on his off days or something. But I mean, he hits, I think he's number one in Stroke's Gang Tito Green right now. Probably.

If not, he's up there. He is, I mean, he's amazing from 200 yards and in. And. Very saucy, too. Very saucy. Yeah, he is. But he's like that one round of Capelua. He looked like he shot 78. Now, look down, he shot 67.

He was pissed on every shot. But he's ranked, what is he ranked? 18 or 17? He's right 18th in the world right now and You would think like he's then you know The not even in the top 100 the way people talk about him. So I love him You know I like this is another guy that I think you probably like to but Harris English is is awesome and You know, it's it's weird that he's ranked as low. I think he's ranked like 70 something or 80 something He is 69 and I think that

You know, I watched him Hitballs on the range at At the Colonial a couple years ago and it was a show. I mean, it was unbelievable the way he hits it. I've never really been on the Harris-English bandwagon. I think some of the other no-bang up guys and O' Todd is big on the Harris-English. I don't know what it is. For me, he's just like too tall.

Something about his swing just makes it look a little awkward to me. Again, we're talking about one of the 70 best players in the world. It's kind of ridiculous, but I've never really seen like that skyrocket potential out of him. I don't know what it is. I'm not, I'm not a Harris English hater. I think it's just maybe the guys I talk to the most about golf are so high on them. I'm just not sure.

I'm quite there. Yeah, I can see that. If it was going to happen, I think it would have happened last year. Like he was primed for it last year. I actually thought he had a chance to. And he kind of disappointed me is why I've kind of soured on him a little bit.

He let you down. He did let me down, man. He's probably really upside about it, too. Yeah. I think I, I think I'm not letting you back in, Harris. All right, I gave you your chance I haven't heard too many times I think smeds is gonna have a bounce back here brant snettaker yeah no I didn't I didn't even know his shares were still

listed on the exchange I thought he was I thought the SEC had him de-listed he's not he so I tweeted the same day he's 35 to one to win the Masters he's not in the field yet. Oh I know that's that's that's an amazing stat that he's not in the field yet because I think he finished like the year 50 ranked 55 or 54 or something like that. Yeah well I think the reasoning behind that is somebody out there that knows more about betting that can correct me but I think it's if it if he doesn't play in it you get no action so your bet gets returned so the assumption is that he's gonna you can place the bet now but he would have to play well to get into it and he's gonna be rounding more into

form and so it will make sense to have him at 35 to 1 if he does make it into the tournament that's my only my only possible estimation as to why I could still bet Patrick Reed at 100 to one two weeks ago to win the Masters and Brett Seneca was 35. That's that's a that's a poor line crime that you could bet Patrick Reed at 100 to one. Well there's luckily there's no laws in Amsterdam for the most part so I can get away with anything. So a couple other guys Peter you on I'm obviously on he's a He's a bricks kept a disciple or I don't know that's the That's us we're not letting anyone else in you and I are the disciples

They live together and you're a for a while. Yeah, I'm jealous. That's why that's why he's awesome though. He's one of my Oklahoma's day guys, but I think I love that him and Captain both played in Europe for a long time and you know, I hope that he can eventually do a Captain dead and get into the top 50 and play both tours. Yeah, I like that they just gave the middle finger to Finchham for Finchham's follow. That's the reason why I will always root for those two guys, but I'll never be supportive of a system that sends two of the best young American players over to Europe to play.

And I get it, I get it, I completely understand why they did it. They'd rather play like and travel Europe than go to Boise, Idaho and then go to Columbia the next week and whatnot. But I don't know enough about you, line to be honest. He doesn't have any, I know he doesn't have any status this year. So what's the, what's the, what's the end game for him again? Is it to use sponsor exemptions to try to get special temporary membership?

I think he's just going to keep pulling the European tour. I mean, I, he finished, I don't know, I think he finished top 25 keep playing the European tour. I mean, I he finished I don't know I think he finished top 25 and the race to Dubai and and you know, he was successful there, but he's What is he? 146th in the world and he just he hasn't won like he needs to win like like kept it in Turkey To jump into that top 75 or top 50 so So yeah, I think the plan is keep playing Europe and eventually try to, if you can get into the top 50, play both tours.

Yeah, I thought everyone when I told people I was moving to Europe, they're like, oh, you're going to become this Euro tour expert. It's like, there's one tournament played within like a thousand miles of me. There's no golf here. I don't, I've played golf once since I've been here. I don't even have cables, so I don't even get, I can't even tune into the European tour. The best thing about the

European tour is the European tour Twitter account run by Jamie Kennedy. I'm getting the best I can out of the European tour just by being on Twitter. Yeah, it's awesome. Okay, my last one is or just by being on Twitter. Yeah, it's awesome. OK, my last one is another guy whose name I'm not totally sure how to pronounce. Tony Fignot Fignot. Final? Final?

I assume Final. I only know it from reading it. And I read about him a lot. I've seen, I watched him actually summing the web.com tour championship this year. But the fall finish he had, I'm completely on board with that. I've actually already put a bet on him to win the Humaner this week. Really? Yeah. He was like 85 to one or something like that. I think it makes sense. Yeah. I'm in on him.

He hits it, I mean, he hits it forever. He's been putting pretty well. I think he's top 25, top 30 and starts getting putty and so far. And I'm in. I think he's top 25 top 30 and Sturks game putty and so far. And I'm in I think he's going to be good. Good. I'm on board with that one. I think so far on my end, if I was going to name a top ranked player compared to your Matsuyama, I think Gary Woodland has been really for some reason still a little under the radar. I think people are the the the round the attorney had this week at Sony on a course. I don't really think it's necessarily the best fit for him it caught my eye a little but I think we may be in for a couple wins from Gary went Gary with them this

season yeah no I don't disagree with that he had that he was making a run at the at the the Guster course record last year at the Masters. Yeah. He was like 29 on the front nine or 30 or something like that and they cooled off but um if he puts at all he's going to be competitive and you know they're going to be weeks where I think he does public well so I'm I'm in on that I like that. Yep and I think some of the guys that I've been I have my eye on that I just I'm Yep, and I think some of the guys that I've been, I have my eye on, that I'm confident are gonna win a tournament this year that are probably a little bit more off the radar

than usual and that aren't necessarily like fit the no-lang up, you know, the build or whatever. But I've been betting on Andrews Fabota, like way too much for my own health, but I bet on them, I don't even remember which one it was in one of the fall series events. And he was like one back going into the final round. I had him, I don't even remember which one it was in one of the fall series events. And he was like one back going into the final round. I had like, I had him at 200 to 1 or something like that.

I'm telling you that guy is going to win a tournament this year. It might be the Bell South Classic. It's not going to be the Memorial or the players, but I'm telling you that I think Andrew Sabota is going to win a tournament this year. I think two other guys that are going to our Scott Langley and Tim Wilkinson. Langley's your boy though. That's not known. No, no, no. That's unfair.

He's two, two solid of ball striker. He put two or sauce on one of his wedges and you, I mean, he could be like, he could be shooting 80s and you'd be like, I probably gonna want to turn him at this year. If Polter put two or sauce on's wedge, I would completely switch. Like, if Baba did it too, I'd be on board. Like totally on board. Like, get me a Baba Head Cuffer, like I wanted it.

Let's talk about this. Yeah, maybe I'm a little clouded. Let's talk about Baba. No, okay. 47 minutes into the podcast or something like that. We haven't mentioned Baba yet. Uh, he's, you've had, in each of your last two mabex, you've used the words, you've used the words, Baba, desecrated and Baba defiled. I think it was

contaminated. I don't know what the second one. He said that he's designated the hallowed grounds of Augustine National and he contaminated the grounds of a river area with us with our last year. So he almost, he almost won the NLU, what we call the NLU triple crown, like our three of our favorite events of the era, the masters, the Northern Trust and the Memorial. And he was, he won the first two of those and then was in position to win the Memorial until he hit a ball 45 yards offline to the right of a house. But I work and I say, I've overdone it to a record extent. What do I have to do to get blocked by him?

That's what I wanna know. I don't know. I think your first goal should be to get blocked by Ted Scott. Oh, he did. He blocked us. Oh, that goal has been accomplished. Yeah, I have a trophy on my shelf over here for that accomplishment.

Who's your next prey on Twitter in terms of being blocked? Who are you? I just found out today that Zach Johnson blocked me. Really? Like, I did like a Twitter search to see like the last time he was even mentioned in one of our tweets, and it was like May 2013, and it was something, like completely innocuous, completely,

like there was, it wasn't even a joke about him or something like that. I don't even know why he was mentioned in it. I don't know yet, so I don't know how long I've been blocked by him, but it makes sense. I mean, if you're gonna lay up on every Part 5 at Augusta National, then I don't want to have the option to be able to follow you on Twitter. So little does he know that he's made an enemy though that I didn't know I had It is interesting to to run an account that is

Is polarizing so like there's plenty of accounts out there that professional golfers either Like they just don't pay attention to like they don't do anything with but they you have an account where You have certain golfer certain writer cup golfers account where you have certain gulfers, certain writer cup gulfers that follow you and certain ones that block you. That's a weird, that's a weird thing. It's a draw us the line exactly on the guys that we like to root for and the guys that we can't stand. It's like, are you cool?

Are you cool? Are you down? I don't, what would have to happen to you for you to? Like, are you cool? Like, are you down? Like, I don't, what would have to happen to you for you to be like offended by a tweet? Like, that's what I always ask. I can think of two tweets that I've ever read in my entire life that I was like legitimately offended by.

And they weren't like directed at me, but I was like, dude, I literally just like unfollowed the person after I read that tweet. But like, how sensitive do you have to be to like, I get it if like a person just literally harassing you. And you know what, Pulitzer, I understand. I actually, like I said, I actually judge him for taking this long to block me.

Ted Scott totally understand, blah, blah, little confused by you haven't blocked me yet, but it's like, I mean, you gotta have some thick skin, especially to deal with the people in the realm that you perform in. You know you're gonna have people say things about you and you're in the public spotlight. Just be cool. Just relax.

Yeah, I can't imagine. I mean, I can't even fathom blocking someone over one tweet. I don't think I've blocked anyone, actually, ever. But I've had a couple people that I'm not even, they don't think I've blocked anyone actually ever, but I've had a couple people that I'm like, not even, they don't even like harass me, they're just, they just like, talk to me too much, they're just like annoying. I'm like, I don't, I don't want to interact with you online. You just drop in like really random irrelevant hot, hot, scalding hot takes that you just

can't even like respond to. I just, I did see you just can't even respond to. And you're like, I just, I didn't see you. I think that, man. Yeah, I need to send, I just need to send you an eBay link to Ian Polter's writer cup mittens that he was wearing. Like, that just, just leave it at that. Like every time you tweeted me, I'll just send you that way. Just ready for those scalding hot takes.

Yeah. Uh, uh, what I was going to ask you about, though, is how did you feel about Polter's caddy ripping off your, uh, uh, what I was gonna ask you about those, how did you feel about Polter's caddy ripping off your? Fanny Riptoff, yeah, he ripped off one of my tweets word for word I just I wasn't even mad to be honest. I was just like I Responded to him. I was like seriously dude. I mean like not even like an attempt to to move it to switch the words around or anything I honestly as soon as I saw it, I was like, this guy probably just doesn't get how Twitter works. I really didn't care. I mean,

Jason Duffner retweeted it, so I was really, I was quite fine with how that all worked out. He claimed he got the tweet in an email and then he tweeted, I really didn't care that much, but I was just like seriously, I mean, if it was like another golf writer or somebody that would have ripped it off word for word it was like golf club wankers that steals stuff from people all the time then yeah maybe I had a little bit bigger problem with it yeah it was it was weird I don't I don't know people do weird stuff on on Twitter but this is gonna this is you know last year for bubble was the year oficing, and I think this year for you is gonna be the year

of the year of social media. Like, you're off to a really good start. I mean, I'm just trying to keep up, man. I don't have the, I don't have DVR capabilities anymore over here, or like, buying capabilities or anything like that. Like, I watch golf on like my sling box that I like mount on my TV that is like

a couple, like two minutes behind everyone else with a coverage. So everyone's freaking out about a pray for Ted Scott moment before it's even happened for me. Spoiler alert people, come on, you're ruining what I live for. The pray for Ted Scott meter is off. It is incredible. It would debut at a good time. It was a really good time. Yeah, it was, it's awesome. I approve. It's incredible. It was a really good time. Yeah, it was awesome. I approve. It's legit.

Yeah. So what are you anticipating? I wrote in my notebook about what I anticipated for Tiger at Phoenix. What do you think it's going to be like? Well, you know, it's going to be the crazy thing is you're like as if the Phoenix open with Tiger wasn't enough you're throwing the Super Bowl at it and I mean what if what if Tiger like What if Tiger shoots like 35 under and then like sings the halftime since a halftime with Katy Perry

In cargo jeans. I could see it, I could see it. He's going to be like, they could be invincible. What if they just like helicopter him from the 18th at TPC Scottsdale and like he per shoots in with with Steine and Joey onto the into the halftime and Lindsay Lindsay's gonna be there. Oh yeah she yeah she might be there with with Katy Perry already. He's totally gonna try to go that game isn't he? Yeah he will yes he will be there and he'll be yeah, he'll probably be in like his By the way, it's so fitting that he likes the Raiders like it's it's such a like Weird you're like what like you like the Raiders like this is weird like why do you I don't know It's ago. I don't even go back to the Stanford days. I don't I don't even I'm not I'm not totally familiar with his upbringing. How end up a raiders fan. But yeah, I'm not either. I really not have looked

that deep into Tiger to be honest. So yeah, which may be a surprise. But yeah, I think that's how it's the the fan the Drunken fans deconstruct the yeah corporate press boxes and Yeah, make a bonfire. I mean it just like that might be on like the low end of what could happen if he makes a hole in one I so So so Phil and Todd two of our no-ling up guys, they used to go to this tournament like every year and they went to it back when the people don't really know, I don't know this,

I only know this because of them, but people don't really realize how much the 16th hole has tamed down actually in the last several years because they've put in these these corporate press boxes. Actually, one of the original taglines of no laying up was no corporate allowed. So that was like part of the founding of this site was the fact that they hated that these corporate, these corporate hospitality tents,

not press boxes, hospitality tents went in around the 16th hole and ruined the atmosphere around it. There used to be like sit on the hill back there and just like get completely hammered and yell at Pat Perez, whatever you wanted to. And now it's become like this, it's like, see and be seen thing, rather than, rather than, you know,

what it used to be, I guess. Well, it's weird because when you look back on the A's that Tiger made in 97, it doesn't even look like the same hole No, it's not I mean, it's like is this the same same deal that we're seeing like it's it's It's really weird. I am concerned like do you think Bubba will Submit to the authorities and and not Throw visors into the stands like they're frisbee's and potentially. I hope everyone just, here's what I wanted to say,

also into what I forgot to tweet this was like, you know what you should do, if you want to earn some favor in my regard, just throw the hats, throw whatever you want into the stands. When you get fined, announce that fine amount, donate the same amount to charity, and just shove that infinite, excuse me, choking on this hot take just shove that in. Excuse me. I'm choking on this hot take.

Shove that. Shove that in Fincherm's face because that is the dumbest. It makes me so upset. You know who won't do that but should and could get away with it is foul. Yeah, exactly. I think he's gonna do something still. But he's not gonna try to show Finch him up but he's gonna do something I think. Yeah. Well, I mean, last year we talked about hot tags. Michelson said he lost the tournament

because he was very worried about football. Throwing football, sitting in the... And he's like, wow, that's what he's like, come. I mean, I would expect that from like, you know, we weren't mentioning the outlets, but I would expect that from a few writers that I fall on footer, we won't mention any outlets, but I would expect that from a few writers that I follow on footer, but you're rolling with that fill. Like, okay, I guess.

All right. Last thing I'm going to ask you, do you have any master's bets that you can get now that you won't be able to get in three months that you like? Well, we were both on the Capca thing. He was like 160 to one or something. Yeah, I still just kind of buy into the first time thing. No one's ever won the first time. I know Speed was close, but it's hard for me

to get real pumped about a first-time player, like Capca. Damn, I should not have said that on the podcast. I may delete this part out. Yeah, he probably just changed his footer. I don't know. Oh, oh, oh golf betting guys on Twitter that he had he had the Chris Kirk's odds for his personal book at 40 to one and the odds were listed 100 to one I got on and got him at 85 to one today I think he makes a lot of sense from the he he tied he tied for 20th last year and

He hits it high right to left ball flight over the, over the generic take on that, you know, reasoning behind that, but I think it makes sense. Yeah, I think, yeah, I don't just like that at all. I mean, you also, as somebody we were talking about earlier, but Gary Woodland had 80 to one. I mean, he finished what, top 12 last year or top 10 or something like that. I took you off guard with that spot with that question, but it was actually Mike Miller at Smart Golfbats that I was talking about with today if you guys were interested.

And he's got some really good stats on Matt and he tracks the master's betting pretty closely. It's pretty interesting. So I like I like a Couture at 28 to one. I mean, I don't know. I do too. I just feel like he's always in it Like I don't know if that means anything, but I feel like he's always there Yeah, he's always there just make just making people take naps on the back of nine at Augusto like ruining everyone's excitement What if he hands out fanny packs at the fiending ruining everyone's excitement. What if he hands out Fanny Packs at the Fanny Packs?

All right, that's it. That's it. We're done. We're ending on Matt Cooch. We're heading out Fanny Packs at the Fenix Open. Like just like a little good, like a gift bag. Like there's like some bridge stone swag in the Fanny Packs. I don't even know what you're doing.

It's going to have towel, that's it, or something that's completely dead. Some Kleenex and hands and time. Some band-aids, yeah. All right, that's an hour. That's plenty of time. We'll have to do this again. We'll check back in, definitely,

hopefully before the Masters and Yeah, thanks. Thanks again for coming on buddy. Yeah anytime Brooks was here. Let's do it Brooks was here Brooks brothers. We're out Right club beat a right club today That's better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most. you