No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 127: Danielle Kang
Episode Date: March 21, 2018Live from the Kia Classic, Danielle Kang joins the podcast to talk about her upbringing in golf, playing in the U.S. Open as a 14 year old, winning the U.S. Amateur twice, and her career... The post ...NLU Podcast, Episode 127: Danielle Kang appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'm going to be the right club today.
Yeah. That is better than most.
How about him?
That is better than most.
Better than most!
Expect anything different! Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast. Welcome me in for the first time.
Daniel Kang. I saw you hit like two shots today and what was the first one I saw you hit?
Hello. Hi. You laid up. I laid up. Right away. Yeah he walked up to me and said hi from No Laying Up.
I'm like oh I just laid up. I tried to look away. Yeah, he walked up to me and said, hi, I'm from no laying up. I'm like, oh, I just laid up. I tried to look away.
It's not practice round. No, I can't get there, man. I don't
hit it. Well, it's not laying up if you can't get there. Yes,
we're still laying up. Part five. We're we excuse it.
248 uphill. What do you max out on your like, you're
green? Yeah, uphill. Yeah.
I don't know. Probably two 30 to the front.
Max out. Yeah.
On a dead flat shot. What's your max three wood that you can get home to?
I if there's nothing in the front, I'll probably go for it.
Actually, if there's no water, I'll go for it at any yardage.
But max out, I'm not sure. That depends.
I don't know.
It might be hot outside. I might be feeling really good that day.
I'm like, Bryce, and you're talking about air.
I'm like, shit, I might be hitting a hundred.
I don't know, who knows?
It depends on the day.
Golf changes every day.
So we're here at the key of classic.
Have you been moving on?
Moving on.
How familiar are you with this golf course?
I've been here, like, seven years, so pretty familiar.
Yeah.
When you go out in practice, is it pretty routine?
What do you work on when you're out here at the practice round just putting it to pens and stuff?
For me, I know the course layout pretty well, so the tee shots aren't that much of a problem.
I try to get the putting speed down and then feel around the greens most likely chipping
and putting.
We want to talk a bit about what's your background in the game?
How did you get into the game when do you start playing who taught you the game?
When did you fall in love with it? That was so many questions. I got all that don't worry
I got into the game because my brother was playing actually so we visited my dad in Korea
He had a company in Korea. So every summer we would go out to Korea and
I was we were so loud in his office and that he was like okay, I can't tell what deal with this
So he put me and my brother in at a driving range in Korea and said have fun
Just hit balls or whatever and I hated golf. It was so boring so slow. I'm like bald doesn't even move and
I used to sit down and watch my brother hit
balls all day and he got really, really good,
really fast.
So then everybody, you know, created a love golf.
So they were watching him hit.
And he started like drawing galleries
and then my dad would be like, oh my god,
like he's actually really good.
And then after like a month, everyone just kept talking
about my brother.
And it was really.
It's come for a party, you guys. Two years guys two years two years yeah I got really annoyed because I
wanted to be the center of attention so I asked my dad to buy me clubs and then
I started practicing and I got really good pretty fast they're like oh look at
your sister and I was like yes what how old were you in this admin probably close
to like it was summer so I was 12 almost turning 13 and then yeah I follow my
brother's footsteps a lot and just anything that we do. So this was you played
in the US Open when you were 14. In a year and a half ago I put it in the US Open.
How is that possible? I didn't even know what the US Open was. How did you get in the US Open?
I don't know that's how ignorant but it was actually true. How did you get in? My brother
sent me up for it. Yeah. So he signed me up.
He signed me up for tournaments.
My parents are very like, I don't know
if they're method of raising kids are correct or incorrect,
but they're very odd.
They, if you want to do something, you do it on your own.
So my brother went to Brazil for over a couple of years
because he wanted to become a soccer player.
Then he came back, he's like, oh, I don't want to play golf.
I don't know.
I was here when he went to Brazil. 12? OK. So he came back from Brazil that time, and then he came back, he's like, oh, I want to play golf. I don't know. I don't know. I was here when he went to Brazil.
12?
OK.
So he came back from Brazil that time, and then he started golf.
He's like, no matter how much I practice,
I'm never going to be great.
And in soccer, this is so hard.
Anyways, moving that aside.
Yeah, he signed me up.
Then he said, you have like, you got to go to this place and go play.
Did that, and then I qualified.
And then I'm like, Alex, I got through.
Then he said, oh, then OK, hold on. Then you go to sectionals. And I go, I don, and then I qualified. And then I'm like, Alex, I got through. Then he said, oh, there, okay, hold on,
then you go to sectionals.
And I go, I don't know what that is.
He was just, just don't worry about it.
So he signed me up.
And then next thing I know, I was on a car,
and then I went up there with the somebody I knew
because my grandpa passed away that week,
who's really sad.
So nobody could come with me.
So I just went up there.
I'm like, why do I have to play this thing?
Did you have a caddy or were you carrying your own bag?
No, I think I had a local. Somebody just randomly that I knew carried the bag and I didn't want to go.
And then everyone was like, no, you should go. And then I made it. And then everyone was so excited.
Do you remember that week very well? I remember it clearly because everyone got so excited.
I was upset that I couldn't go to my grandpa's funeral and everyone went and everyone made it.
My family was like, you know what?
Like, because my grandpa even,
I spoke to him like two days before he passed away.
He's like, hey, like, good luck.
You're gonna play well.
I'm like, why is everyone making such a big deal?
And then, you know, it's just a random event.
And then I went up and played and everyone like,
made me go play.
I made it.
And then they're like, okay, we're going to the US Open.
I'm like, what's the US Open? Like, what's going on? And then the interview was like, you know,
how do you feel about making your first US Open? I'm like, fine. I haven't played that
in the events. Like, I stopped shooting 90s about a year ago, which is nice. Like, I don't
know. That's amazing. How did you play? I was, I think, three over par for the event.
I remember it because I had over nine, three puts that week.
Three over with nine, three puts.
Yeah, for two days.
Where was the high needles?
Okay.
It was pretty fun.
I had my whole family come out.
And then I saw Onika Sorensen, which was super cool
because that's the only thing I knew about golf.
And funnily enough, two things I knew about golf
was Onika Sorensen and Michelle Wee. Like, that's the only thing I knew about golf. And funnily enough, two things I knew about golf was on a customer's side and then Michelle we.
Like that's the only thing I knew about LPGA.
And she ends up becoming one of your best friends.
Yeah, she's pretty crazy.
So did you, was like onica, like the person you looked up to
and go off?
Well, like, like not looked up to and go off.
I just knew of her.
She was just such a legend.
Like every time I saw TV, she won.
Was there a bit of starstruck when you saw the first?
I thought she was so much smaller than,
like on TV I've never seen people that I'm young
and I was pretty big as a kid.
So I'm like, oh my god, wait a second.
I'm like her size. Damn.
So from there you went to Pepperdine.
I went to Pepperdine. I went to Pepperdine.
What was that?
Well, it's up from 14 to 18 though.
Like what?
I kind of went up and down because I did go to that tournament and I wasn't playing golf
to become a professional and that mindset stuck with me after I played the US Open.
I played the US Open and I don't think I've ever really told anybody that.
That's when I realized, yeah, I'm not gonna do this
as a career.
Really?
Yeah, I didn't want to do this as a career.
So I even told my family.
It was still just something to wanna create that.
At the US Open, the US Open made it clear to me that,
like I loved it, it was fun.
Like I saw all these people, I didn't really care
to be quite.
Frank golf wasn't my passion. Like it's like something I did, I was good at. I didn't really care to be quite. Frank golf wasn't my passion.
It's like something I did, I was good at.
I didn't really care that much.
And then so I said, yeah, this is not something
I'm gonna do to such a career.
It's pretty fun.
I like being out here.
Then golf was just kind of put aside.
Like I played for fun, didn't really put that much time
into it, then I sucked.
I was so bad, because I didn't care.
That was the...
Were you still playing tournaments
or just playing like recreationally?
I just played like little local events here
in there, like, H-H-J wasn't a big deal to me,
like my brother played.
So only reason I kept practicing was
because my brother was grinding.
And his dream was to make the P-J tour.
Still is, and he's playing on the web.com
and I would follow him to the range and practice with him.
That's why I got, you know, I excelled pretty quickly.
Then I started sucking pretty bad, like hardcore, pretty bad.
Just from lack of practice or lack of motivation?
No motivation, don't care, and I didn't practice that much.
I didn't practice as much as I did when I first started and then
I really don't like to lose and especially golf you lose about 95% of your career. However,
I don't like to lose even if you lose not by that much like I genuinely suck. So then that triggered it
and I started crying. This is like an up and down roller coaster. How far along were you in the year and a half?
Okay.
So then like 16, I was like, okay, Danielle, what are you doing?
And by that time your brother's going off to college.
Yeah, now he's off to college.
Well, he, because I was playing so bad,
I think like, I made a fuss that one tournament and saying,
oh my god, I'm playing so bad, I can't put Alex, like, you never practice.
You don't practice, you don't care. And I'm like, you my god, I'm playing so bad. I can't put it out. I was like, you never practice. You don't practice.
You don't care.
And I'm like, you're right.
But I don't want to lose.
So then I started practicing a lot again,
back to what I usually do when I get obsessed.
Then I got pretty good, again.
It's all practice.
Did you play other sports in the midst of all this?
I did Tequendo when I was younger.
So like two to 12 for 10 years,
I was training for like the Olympics for Tech One Doh.
So I did that.
For the Olympics for Tech One Doh.
Like my parents wanted to send me to the Olympics.
I love fighting.
Yeah.
What, what, were you black belt?
I was a black belt at age seven.
Wow.
Yeah.
So you still have skills?
Second degree too.
I love the 101 on one fighting.
Like it's just something that I love to do. You still do it? No, I can't. I get too obsessed.
Like I, there's something that's just like people ask you one of your passions are like,
I would do that as a part of a workout, but my body's not, I've worked hard to build the body
to be a golfer's body. Mm-hmm. Not that it's different, but I'm not a six-four-linky athlete, so I just have to keep checking the
back.
I can't be landing high jumps and putting pressure on my hips, stuff like that.
I did box for a little bit.
That really puts a lot of tension on your wrist, so I stopped that too.
I got pretty obsessed with that.
So you seem like you're kind of a,
I don't wanna say a type A personality,
but I'm aggressive,
but yeah, you just commit to something and you.
Yeah, if I get obsessed it's over.
So you just have to get,
I have to care, you've got to get, you know.
Did your care for golf like main,
once you rededicate to the game,
did it stay with you like up to this day,
or does it, does it ebb and flow as well?
It goes up and down, so I so I mean yeah I don't want my
I don't know if my story gets too long just thought me. No. No, no, let's keep going.
This is this is where we're here for perfect. What happened then? So then at 16
then I went to cause I was I used to be smart. So then I graduated high school at
16 went to Pepperdine and then then I liked winnings, like just kept on practicing.
So I played, I had a great amateur career.
I think I hit world number one at one point.
Then you really like it.
I like it.
I like being the best.
I liked being at the top.
Who doesn't?
True.
You go through the field and then you know that you're the best player there.
Like why wouldn't you ever want to feel that?
What are the ranking tellers you are not if you're prepared and you have that confidence?
It's the best feeling in the world. Then that's stuck so then I mean
It wasn't like oh, I want a term pro
But after I won like the USM medalist you have junior in North and South like
I'm playing all these and then my dad and I looked that show that I was like well the next step is to go pro
Typically when you win USA and we're twice you
Don't like something like you know what I think I want to go pro next year like I'm gonna
I'm like dad. I'll win the USA and one more time go back to back
That's exactly what I said and it will go pro and he goes when you went after the day you win just go pro and I said okay
So I think my winning speech was yeah, I'm pro, I'm turning professional.
That's right now.
Did you have anyone advising you at any part of the process or just your dad?
No, I've had a lot of people say stay in school.
Why do you want to go professionally?
Like, wanted to take a couple of years and then I didn't make LPGA fun fact, full status
first year.
So I was conditional status.
Then I was advised to not play LPGA,
turn in my card as a conditional status player
and then stay a year out and then come back the next year.
I don't take a lot of advice.
I'm gonna be, you're there, just Monday.
Sure.
For conditional, what does that mean?
Is it a reshuffle?
They had to learn about the reshuffle
and I was like, oh, okay, great. And then you got there doing it your own way.
Anyway, too. You know, I actually really that sounds funny, but I had a conditional status the first year out here. I played maybe
I think look at the stats you could come up. I didn't play that much. Maybe 12 events
Maybe, but then I finished really high in the beginning.
I got some sponsor and by eight I finished like six.
Then I finished third at Kingsville,
top 15 at the US Open.
I had the ultimate schedule.
I had the Tiger schedule, you played 15.
It was great.
And then the next year I started playing 30.
I'm like, wait a second.
Do you burn out?
Not burned out, you get tired.
Now you don't get to practice a lot. See now it's just, I couldn't, I couldn't like it. Do you burn out? Not burned out, you get tired. Now you don't get to practice a lot.
See now it's just, I couldn't,
I couldn't time it and everyone expected me to play so well
when I first came out and everyone's like,
what happened?
What happened to you?
What happened to your game?
Okay, first of all,
I turned pro and lesson five years of playing golf.
Amazing, I can't believe that.
It's statistically first, I got a lot to learn.
Sure. And I realized that lot to learn. Sure.
And I realized that around when I was 20, after the first couple of years, quote, is disappointing.
Everyone's like, what's happening?
And of course, I'm frustrated because I'm trying to force the win and force game and everything.
But were you like teetering on the brink of losing your card?
Some of these years?
You're always pretty solid.
I was always 50th for some reason.
Okay. That's a joke. In pretty solid. I was always 50th for some reason. OK.
That's a joke.
In my whole family, it's 50th.
The matter of that, I played 50th.
The matter of good, I played 50th.
It was like, OK, cool.
But it wasn't that.
It's just one week, a couple weeks out of the year,
your game could come together and then
being contentioned.
But I already knew playing few years
that I don't have a posse traveling with
me. One, I'm pretty independent. Both my, not that other people don't have jobs, but like
both my parents have jobs. Like they didn't travel with me during junior golf, during amateur
golf. My dad did for like four events. Those are 50% of the wins as he was there. But it's hard.
It's hard to juggle.
It's hard to juggle your schedule, seeing what you need to do,
then practicing, then all of a sudden,
in your 18 years old and you're hiring people,
then you gotta know how to deal with your employees
while they're 40 years old dealing with an 18-year-old kid
and you're a girl.
All of this just doesn it's cause of the factor
and then you don't get to go home
while your friends are at the mall.
It takes a toll on you.
You're on the road 30 weeks out of the year,
you wanna go home, you miss your mom.
Like I had a lot of troubles with that,
but then you just, you figure it out.
So when you were 20, you said you kinda,
like that was kinda the,
I started, I figured out that at 20,
Ish, that my game is not at the high level that I thought it was at.
Okay.
Not that I wasn't good enough to be here, but it was the expectation.
I had so much to learn, golf you learn every day.
And I've only played golf at 20 for less than seven years now.
Seven years.
Have him play golf?
Was it mostly swing related or like course management or short game?
You play golf, right?
Yeah.
How many times have you played and you left the punch short and you know not to leave a
short?
Oh, that happens.
And you do it.
Probably like every punch.
You like, you swear and your life, I'm never going to three put again from six feet.
And then sometimes you just hit it really hard and it goes and you're like, why'm never gonna three put it again from six feet. And then, so I'm telling you, just hit it really hard and it goes,
you're like, why is this happening to me?
He just make the same mistake and I said.
But like, what do you think you missed the most
when you like, developing so quickly?
What do you think?
As far as like, just as far as, you know,
kind of knowledge along the way,
like what do you think that you really could have, like, you know, kind of knowledge along the way, like what do you think that you really could have like, you know, course management or
a short game.
But biggest issue was one, my putting had to get better. It was good, but it was fearless putting. It wasn't a methodical putting.
methodical putting. That sounds weird, but like when you're an amateur you start smashing putts. Then when you're on tour for some reason you kind of lose that
fearlessness. You start playing for checks. You're playing a little timid. No
because also check putting that aside. One shot matters 10 people out here.
An amateur golf you could win by 10. And second place third place they're all
distinguished. Top players are are top lower players are lower
However on tour one shot really matters at the end of the day
So now you're trying to save a shot instead of being fearless of gaining a shot
Markins are just so much more than that. Exactly. So that took away my fearless putting which
Exponentially my game got changes everything changes everything. It changed a little bit.
Then on top of that, like the way you do a short game,
course management was big.
I think it's maturity more than anything that I missed.
Yeah.
I was a calm golfer back then.
I actually get more angry now than back then.
I don't actually, I don't,
I just go off to
the side if you ever see me walk off. If you don't see me on the T-Box I'm gone so we're freaking out
by myself and coming back. Like that is my way of dealing with my like upsetness on the
goppers but it's the maturity. It's the years of time like you're not gonna compete at a high level
playing so little. I didn't have enough reps of tournament golf. I've only played
maybe five AJ events a year. Tiger always says it's a process. It's gonna get reps, you know.
It's the reps. Like so at the end of the day, I was like, I'm like, yeah, I potted well,
chipped well, well, that's why I'm like always in the middle, but in order for you to contend to
be the best out here and to be able to compete with the best girls, it's reps. Like you're not
gonna be fresh out of 12 years old
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Let's get back to Danielle Kang.
So then kind of once you started hitting that inflection point,
has it been pretty steady progress?
Yeah, I've been very sick.
I've been actually getting better every year,
progressively, just tiny bit, but that was the one thing
that my dad always told me, you are getting better every year.
You went from 53 to 52nd to 51st.
It's funny. Yeah. It's funny. You know?
Yeah, that's funny.
Yeah, and I had a couple tough years
after my dad passed away.
And then it's just, you know, life isn't ever,
life isn't just steady.
So you always have to hit that point.
So last, I mean, not, what is it?
2016, after a couple of years, I haven't played well.
Once again, I realize I'm not putting in that much effort.
I did what?
First, yeah, I didn't want, like, after my nap,
I passed away, I didn't want to be here.
People come out here to make checks.
People come out here.
I don't know what their motivations are,
but my motivation was to be the best.
Check wasn't really thankfully, and it wasn't my problem.
That's not going well, thanks to my parents,
but that wasn't a motivation to me.
Fame wasn't motivation to me, was to play the best,
to be the best, but I didn't have motivation
to be out here or to put the time in,
because I felt like golf took away some things that
I could have experienced better at home
However, then you go through that phase
Then I went through the other phase for a year. It's six times because this is a very repetitive life
Very I'm like, oh, here's April like
major time, you know, and
then
2015 like winter I was like,
all right, time to grind.
Like if I wanna be out here,
you gotta give it everything you've got.
And my dad always says,
if you've done everything you can
and it doesn't work out, there are no regrets.
So give it everything you have.
So then, didn't give it everything I have,
but it was more than I did.
Then I played really well, right? So it's 16. I started getting better. The 17 I switched, switch coaches and
everything. So I was like, all right, if I'm going to keep doing this, we're going to
leave. So when I decided to stay, I was like, all right, then do it. So all that was.
And then I had a really good year. In the beginning of the year 2017, it was consistent.
I was at where I exactly wanted to be with my game.
And I won, then I got excited.
Then like obviously I just kind of felt about for like a month.
Understandable.
We're not going to just glance by the major U1 last summer.
So when somebody mentions the LPGH Championship
last year, what's the first thing you think of? First memory. Or like the first thing when I just mentioned it,
what did you just think of? The winning moment. Like, it's more of a relief that I thought of.
It was like, oh, finally, thank God. Your first win and your first, obviously, your first major win.
That win wasn't just a win. It was just kind of like a, it was a nuisance more than anything.
A burden.
It was a big burden in my life
that I couldn't, a point handle that I didn't have a win.
And I am a person that likes to win.
I like to say that because I'm not gonna be sugarcoating
and say, oh, I'm really thankful for where I'm at.
No moral victories like the whole win.
Okay, I'm gonna be straightforward with you. No moral victories like the whole win.
I'm gonna be straight forward with you.
Who doesn't like to win?
Yeah.
And I like to win.
I just, I wanna win.
I like to have a win under my belt
and the fact that I didn't for six years killed me.
Yeah.
And throughout the six years,
it's not like I've been out here in life's been good.
It's been the most tough four, five years,
four years that I had when I was first out on tour and then
like having my dad never see me win like all of that
I'm like okay, well then that was the point anymore like I don't really
This is it like and then plus I still didn't win so then after like about two years after he passed away
Then I'm like all right, you know what?
Well dad like I saw him won so then on 17 I even said I changed my mindset like winning
Isn't gonna come as long as I perform the best I can and it came and then I
Just won it was just
And everyone's I somebody asked me they were like
Oh, does that put more pressure on you to win more? I'm like listen, dude
All I cared about winning was that first one to get it out of my sister
And then everything and to have it be a major too. Yeah, yeah, I about, winning was my first one to get it out of my sister and then
everything.
And to have it be a major too.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I think you picked a pretty good one.
Yeah, it was a double whammy, it was pretty good.
Well, I mean, you hadn't even, you had no top 10s and majors going into that week.
So you were in that situation essentially for the first time.
Was it completely different from a nervous perspective like on that back nine?
No, I love the attention. I
Love it. I love the gallery. I love the pressure
You played better in that situation. I love that vibe. So yeah, I played better
So what have we also realized led better and I realized he told me that I thrive under pressure
So golf gets boring to me
when I'm playing and I don't want to name them but like let's say just a regular event.
Thursday morning. No, let's say Saturday. Really? Let's say Saturday and I'm not in
contention. I'm still trying to shoot 59 at the end of the day because then I look at Sunday.
Then I keep you engaged. Yeah, there's some has to be motivation. Motivation isn't, let me finish 25th today.
That doesn't give me motivation because once again, I'm not a person that likes to be at
25.
So if you're not in condition, it's not that fun for me.
But then now I'm practicing at this point.
I've been doing the best I can for the next event.
So then I realize that Thursday, Friday's are very important to set myself.
And Thursday, Friday's were actually my weakest parts. I'd never set myself
well for the event and I would always chase the leaders. So then what they've said was
all right, plate Thursday Friday like it's a Saturday Sunday. And then when you get
to the weekend, now you have your gallery, you have your fans, and you have your attention,
and now you love it. How do you trick yourself at the thinking
that Thursday, Friday is like a weekend day?
I don't know, but I am in that actually mode nowadays.
Like my most important holes
that I would look at are the first five holes of the tournament.
Like I'm trying to like get up there.
Get some momentum going.
Yeah, I need to get the momentum to get, you know,
to roll into Friday to set myself up for the weekend.
Okay.
I love it.
Like it's just, it's such a fun.
So that week, that week was at Olympia Fields.
Mm-hmm.
Did you feel, like, did your game feel extra good that week?
Did you feel extra confident or was it just kind of a regular, regular week?
I actually had the worst Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday ever.
Like the worst.
I like, I-
From a practice perspective or just, yeah.
I just, I- I feel like that happens more than you would think.
I have the worst thing.
Yeah, maybe, maybe I just, you just say,
I- whatever.
I just love your expectations.
I know, they screw it.
And, um, no, like, when nothing goes right,
I just take a nap. I sleep
But I laid down on the golf course like on 10th
I'm not on what's going on like
Academy will tell you play nine. I laid down on the t-box and he's like he I think it took a picture of me
He's like up there. She goes freaking out again. I'm like, dude. I can't at the ball
And then I let better actually Joe's throws the heat I was like, he thought I was gonna take a throw,
a club out of it.
I was, it was so bad, but then on Thursday morning,
I warmed up and like, everything clicked.
So I was like, oh, I'm feeling great, like, it's cool.
So walk us through that, that 72nd hole.
You knew, did you know that you needed a birdie to win?
Yeah, I heard it. Okay, so you heard Brookhunter said, had missed the putt on 18. Is that right? Okay. I know
she had to far, so she was, I mean, she was gonna reach it in two. And then I was on the
tee box and I was about to hit and I heard, oh, I don't like, oh, she missed. This is a paton.
So you like knowing exactly where you stand? I'm a scoreboard. I need to get a leaderboard
watcher. I was really upset in one of the events this stand? I'm a scoreboard. Like, I need to get out of my leaderboard watcher.
I was really upset in one of the events this year
because there was no leaderboard.
So I made my caddy run and go find a leaderboard.
Isn't Bahamas, I mean, I don't think they'd be upset about it.
There was so much wind.
That was crazy, yeah.
I don't think they had the leaderboards up.
I was so bothered.
I didn't know what standing I was.
And I don't ever take out my phone.
So I'm like, hey, Dale, he's like, yeah, can you?
Like, you could be late.
I'll just hit a driver.
Can you just run to that hole and find out where I'm at?
He's like, he's like, yeah, for sure.
Put the bag down.
He was just ran, I think two holes and ran back.
He's pretty fast.
And he ran back.
He's like, your three shots back.
I'm like, okay, let's go.
Like, I need to know, I want to know where I'm at.
What I need to do, it's the go. Like, I need to know, I wanna know where I'm at, what I need to do, like it's the motivation.
Plus you like the pressure.
Yeah, if it's right, it's like, dude,
you need to make this.
Like this isn't sometimes like,
it's okay if you miss or make, no, you need to make it.
Like.
So you backed off after you heard the ground
that she had missed the putt on 18.
You knew it was converting, okay?
Yeah, I smiled, it was pretty bad.
Did you?
I kinda was like, oh, she missed.
I'm like, oh, the gallery was laughing with me.
They were like, because they saw me kind of like like this
and they're like, it's your time.
And I'm like, she missed.
But then I started talking to myself,
I wasn't hitting it far that week.
So I had to crush the drives.
I swung so hard.
And I hit it pretty good.
And I still have to crush the three with to get on there. You swung pretty hard with the three with two. I swung so hard. And I hit it pretty good. And I still have to crush the three
with to get on there.
You swung pretty hard with the three with too.
I crushed both of them.
Yeah, that three with was pure.
I hit it so hard.
Was that the best shot you've ever hit?
Like under?
That's three with I've ever hit.
Three with my weakest club in the bag.
I mean, it was a no doubt or the one you hit it.
You had to know it right as soon as you hit it
that it was going to get there, right?
Yeah.
I was just hoping it would run a little bit more,
but it just checked.
So what was, take us, I mean, you gotta do media,
you gotta do all that after you win,
but what was the celebration like that night
or what you do next?
We went to eat noodles.
There was nothing opened.
We're in the middle of nowhere.
Yeah, true.
The only thing I feel is the middle of nowhere.
So my caddy and my mom and Michelle, we all went to eat.
It was like in one place open.
She actually closed the opening.
How long did it take?
Like a while, I stretched.
Like the trophy presentation, the media, and the stuff in the club house.
Like how long does that actually take after you went to major?
Hmm.
Sun was down.
It was like night time.
Like three hours, two, three hours.
Yeah.
Cause I did the media, the interview, and all that, and I did the sports,
then the ESPN, and yeah, I know. I don't know, but it went by really quick. Once again, I told you,
I love it. Yeah. I love it. So you got to enjoy it. I mean, so then you just party for like a month
after that? I partied for like, it wasn't just partying, it was,
it wasn't just me that was waiting for that win.
There was so many people invested in that win
that's in my life that I had to go see them,
I had to hang out with them, take time, like call,
takes time, so I didn't practice.
Like I, I think I didn't sleep for three days.
I couldn't sleep for, I couldn't sleep for months actually.
My friends laughed at me about it.
My brother was laughing because I couldn't sleep.
And I was so excited to like wake up.
It was, it sounds ridiculous, but I'm like,
I was just so happy to finally have like,
I just wanted to like live life, you know what I mean?
I'm like, I'm up.
But I was tired. It took everything out of me to do that. So then
kind of excited with everybody. Then it took time. Then I was getting ready for
Sohan basically. So I wasn't ready for the open at all. I had all the media set up at the open.
I didn't like my agent at the time. Like we didn't have anything set up properly. So it was just the
it was free for all. It was yeah so it was just the... It was...
It was crazy.
It was crazy.
And then you just kind of burned out after that,
or just kind of...
No, I took care of everything.
Made everyone happy, did all the media,
did everything, God, I'll see all my friends.
I then, at the day, yeah,
would I have wished to play better at the S Open,
but honestly, I don't really care.
You won your major.
I can't get prepared. After six years major? I don't, I can't get prepared after six years of that.
Of what I've been-
You need to decompress a little bit afterwards.
I cannot be ready in five days to teal about the US Open.
There is not a chance for major week off major
and week off is technically five days at home.
So not a chance I'll be ready by Thursday.
And I'm like, I did my best.
But everyone's like, would you,
everyone always looks at the negative.
Like don't you wish you would have played better?
Listen, I'm still trying to get back to people
about that win.
So like, I'm trying to make other people happy.
But my next goal was to so high to be prepared
and have, be rest in and ready to go to so high.
Had to be pretty easy to get your energy up for that.
I was, I was having a ball on so hard.
That was awesome.
After so hard, the crowd got...
So how did your pairings come about during the so hard?
You had input for who you wanted to be paired with.
You and Michelle played two matches together.
Your first match was with Lizette.
Lizette, that's right.
And so did you guys talk about that beforehand?
How did that come about?
Yeah, we did.
We were playing Lizette Jokes
around that she's been waiting six years for me
to get on the team.
Thank you.
Thanks, Lizette.
She's like, thanks for finally getting your ass on the team.
I'm like, OK, first of all, if you think I
did a want to be on your role, it was like whatever.
But alternate shots, like, yeah, everyone,
because we're in a pod system like they break them up so
obviously like I definitely wanted to play with Michelle they all knew that and
best ball with Michelle was really fun that first day but Lizette and I we
requested to play an alternate shot as well I also played alternate shot with
Michelle the next day so I mean I don't really mind what I play with but the
alternate shots with Lizette take us to that first t-shirt.
I did it. I forgot that I'll say it in the first t-shirt. It was so much fun.
Oh my god. I told you once again. I love it. I love it. I love it. It wasn't even
pressure. I'm just loving it. They're like shouting my name.
And they're so loud. And then, and then they're trying to be quiet. I go,
I'm not a quiet person. If you could tell,, I'm not a quiet person if you could tell.
And I'm not a calm person.
So this sport and I don't get along very well.
So I have to use every ounce of patience I have to chill.
Like, do you ever rub competitors the wrong way?
I've got a lot of people the wrong way.
Everybody the wrong way, because it's like the tone.
Like what?
Like oh, wait, she mad at me, okay, first of all,
don't ever read into what I do.
I don't know, I just, if I'm mad at you, I'll tell you.
That's what I always say.
But God, it was so much fun.
They ever don't care telling me, oh, there's nothing like it.
And to be quite frank, there was like nobody really there the first few days.
And the pressure on, yeah.
And I'm like, I don't see the big deal.
Like, I, because it's just the tournament, I got played in enough majors,
I've played in many US opens,
not releasing the difference.
They're like, oh, you won't believe it.
And we're team off at like what, 8 a.m.
I go, who is the heck is gonna be out here
at 7.30 in the morning watching this?
Like, I've been on tour for six years,
I know what this whole thing's in.
Then I get out there, I'm like, what's going on?
No, no, no.
Why is there freaking, what is that air machine?
The smoke machine. Is there a freaking smoke machine for me? I'm like, let's go
Loving it everyone. 10,000 crazy eyes. I love it. You couldn't see the grass. I
Mean it was all red and you had to go you had to pump up the crowd
Of course, I pumped up the crowd. I was And you had to go, you had to pump up the crowd for your beauty shot, yeah. I pumped up the crowd,
I was out, I was walking to the next hole.
Like, when you walked down the fairway,
they're all, cause they're all watching you, right?
You're like, they're all eyes are on you.
So you feel, if you raise your hand,
they all start chanting with you.
It was so much fun.
Then you go down, they go, okay, quiet.
I was having a blast.
I mean, so you're, like you said,
you thrive in that pressure situation.
You had an eight-foot putt to win the match
on the 18th green, was that like an easier situation
for you considering the pressure?
I actually flash.
I have a lot of flashbacks, so yeah, no,
I'm so fun to make that but so my dad told me one time
as a US amateur the first year I won.
I three put it from four feet to go to the extended hole.
I was so upset because obviously when you missed that kind of opportunity, you think you're
going to lose.
And I'm freaking out.
And I go into the next hole.
This was like semi-s or something.
And my dad looked at me and go, why are you freaking out?
And I go, that, I could have just shut her out.
And now I give her an opportunity.
Like, you never know. he goes, listen, this happened
because so you would get more attention on TV, right?
Now, it's going to be a TV.
He goes, he's so like me, goes, it's more TV time.
I'm like, oh, you're right.
And he goes, now they have to area for another whole,
like, it's TV time.
That's your time.
I won that whole of so excited to play now.
Like, so, it's too bad, bad, but so then it's the little thing
we three put it on 17 to go to 18 and
I
Hit it right and was it it then was it's like R.I.D. like you know
She's she's such a good friend of mine and she's like all right you know my
Lizette see this is great. She because obviously we don't want to be on the 18th, but we were there my close-up
This is this is TV time right now.
Let's do this.
And I like hit a day right, and she's like,
I go, Lizette, you're the best chipper ever.
Let's do this.
Hit a sick ass check, you're short-sighted.
Absolutely screwed on the right side.
You've got this.
And she's like, I got this, and she gets it.
I'm like, see, now they're gonna play it.
I'm like, watch this, Lizette.
TV time, let's go.
You're talking about TV time in the middle of the mat.
100%. And I've been told you're like, she had to like eight feet. You're talking about TV time in the middle of the mat. 100%.
And I even told her, she had to like eight feet.
You could have been asked her.
She was throwing the round.
She wasn't playing that great that day,
but she was a good partner to have though.
She was like, hey, I'm so sorry to you.
And she had to like five feet or something like that
for a pilot and I go, oh, Daniel King doesn't misunderstand.
That's what I said, she goes,
she just looks at me going,
are you kidding me?
Like, she's a competitor, right?
So I'm like, no, I'm not gonna say that in the middle
of my round with other people,
but now it's a team game, so she's-
You went third person on that.
Oh, I got third person.
Like, Danielle can't does a misunder six feet.
She's like,
Except for when she three pots from four.
Oh, that wasn't me, that's the green.
No, that was not me.
And then, so then she hit it to like five feet
again or something.
It happened multiple times where she goes,
DM, so sorry, I'm like, what is Danielle King not do?
She goes, Danielle King doesn't miss under six feet.
And then, it's dumb.
And then on the last hole, I think she was like, you got this,
right?
And I go, can I cut one here? Oh, absolutely. And I just said, I go, she goes, you got this, right? And I go, can I cut one here?
Oh, absolutely.
And I just say, I go, she goes, you got this, right?
DK, I go, by the way, I was fucking with the auto
misunderstand.
I was out of misunderstand.
15, that's what I said.
She's just laughing.
She goes, oh my god.
But then she brings that out of me.
It's just fun.
I was like, dude, Lizard Talis.
I've seen your best trip forever. Just hit this close. It is so bad. Team events are the best, like just, it's just fun. I was like, dude, Lizah, that's Alice. I've seen you, that was your best trip forever.
Just, this close, it is so bad.
Team events are the best, guys.
It was so much fun.
There's so many better stories that come out of like
team events than ever come out of the show.
She was so, she's like, shot up, okay.
Like, yeah.
Was it well as a celebration,
the team celebration like after winning the Soul Hunt Cup?
It was fun, we crashed to European party.
Really?
Yeah.
What was their party?
It was a lot of fun, it was like a nightclub. Oh, really? So, was there like a big party. Really? Yeah. What was their party? It was a lot of fun.
It was like a nightclub.
Oh, really?
So was there like a big party in the team room or anything
before you?
Yeah, we got a team room upstairs and the European team room
downstairs.
But honestly, I had my friends from home there.
And I'm just so glad that they were able to make it.
And a couple of the people had flight problems that I couldn't
have gone.
But one of my best friend, Hilary, was there.
And I think some people do know who Hilary is,
because I was like, I think yelling at her own bar
stool for her interview, for making
you churns.
And my buddy, Ben, was there.
So it was really fun hanging out there for them
to see an experience, this one.
Sure.
Well, I warned you earlier that we exchange the messages
with David Lipski to get some insight info on a few things.
So I'm supposed to ask you about one arm pushups
when you were 13 years old.
I told you I was big when I was, I was jacked.
So you could do one arm pushups?
Yeah, I was able to do right arm one hand,
left arm one hand, and I think I hold the record on pushups and
Set up set my in middle school. I think I did 78 pushups in a row. Can you still do a bunch of pushups?
No, I could do I mean like I just set to 25s, but it's not
Narley as I used to be but like I could do one handed, but it's not like 15
aside I used to be, but I could do one-handed, but it's not like 15 aside.
Like I think I can do maybe two left hand.
Yeah, I have to feel it out right now.
Yeah, my brother used to do it,
that's how he introduced me, his little sister.
Hey, do one-handed push-ups.
We might have the test, you have to
do it on the floor.
It's my form is not good,
before it used to be like down down like proper. Yeah, I was
not really. I'm supposed to ask about your tattoos. David told you that or just what he said?
Ask about your tattoos. Why did he ask that? He gave me no more info than that. Ask her
about her tattoos. Yeah. What tattoos do you have? That's all one on your finger.
Why is he being so sketched right now?
What is he wanna know?
I don't know.
There's a hitting meeting behind that.
I don't, literally says her tattoos.
I don't know about my tattoos.
I don't know about your tattoos.
No, like, it's, okay, he's so, I don't know what.
Do we have to skip by that one?
No, that's fine.
I have one that says dad in, it says, in his writing. Oh, wow. I go hi nice to meet you
So everyone can meet my dad. Oh, wow. Yeah, and then I have just be I got this one on 16
Okay, his 17 my parents always just be who you are whatever you want to be just be you and then I have a
Batching tattoo with Lydia
the world. Okay, couple there
He's he threw that at you because he knows I have more and a matching tattoo with Lydia, the little horse. So she has a couple there.
He's, he threw that at you because he knows I have more
and that I would never tell him.
I don't tell people a lot, so he's.
That's what he wants to get to the face.
All right.
Yeah, so those are the three that people,
yeah, those are the three, yeah.
Okay, your Instagram photo skills.
You brought it up before the podcast. Well, yeah, so I run like people's Instagram
account. I'm trying to gain them followers and you should charge for that, by the way.
I am charging him. Yeah. Yeah, it's like I think he has to buy me ice cream every time
he sees me. I love ice cream. Um, what about your connection with the Gretzkees in Caitlyn Jenner?
I grew up with the Gretzkees.
So Wayne and Janet were my, like, I was under Wayne's membership when I was growing up.
I showed a country club, so I played out there.
And then he got me an honorary membership, so thank you, Wayne.
And I grew up with his kids.
So Trevor is my age and Ty is one of our really close friends and
Pauline has older than us and
Yeah
Just I've known them for so long and they're one of like Ty and his kids are one of our closest friends and
Met Dustin through Wayne Dustin said your favorite favorite LPGA player good couple weeks ago
So he actually said that. Thanks Dustin. He did. When I won, he messaged me saying,
yeah, that's how you're supposed to play golf. I'm like scrolling messages. Dustin Johnson.
That's how you're supposed to play golf. Thanks Dustin. Do you talk like golf like with Dustin or
anything like that? Oh, I've spoken to him about, you know what?
I don't honestly care what anyone says about that.
I love that guy, man.
He was a very pro-dusted.
We were fascinated by his whole like outlook on life.
Man, dude, that guy isn't like, it's interesting, man, dude.
He, he spoke to me about, obviously, I didn't play that great,
but in Pynast 2014.
Right, right.
After the men.
He gave me his yardage book, which by the way was empty.
That's a fun fact.
It's not funny.
Hey man, I could have gotten this.
It's empty, but he has the pins.
He had the one, two, three, four pins in there. And they kept the same pins. And actually I think one whole, he had the pin, he has the pins. He had the one, two, three, four pins.
And they kept the same pins.
And actually, I think one hole, he had marked,
it was empty, completely empty, except one hole
and the pins were in the dots are so small.
Like, I think the pencil mark was,
he didn't even put this on, but it was just the dot.
And I go, is that the pin?
And then I think it said, said oh and then his brother Austin
gave me the yardish book. Sorry. I was Austin's book that had stuff written in it and
One of the whole says don't go here go here
Thank you. It's simple, but it's not easy, you know, but dust but Austin's book had a lot of good information
But dust and so he gave me his book and I go dust and it's empty man
I know, okay, a lot of good information, but Dustin, so he gave me his book and I go,
Dustin, it's empty, man.
He's like, he was, oh, just call me,
because he was busy.
He was like, oh, just call me later tonight
and I was like, okay.
So then I called him up after dinner,
and I was like, hey, and he's like,
he walked me through that golf course
from one to 18 on the phone,
and it was the most descriptive explanation
of a golf course I could have ever gotten.
Really?
Like I didn't need to walk the golf course.
I didn't need to play.
Because by this time I was watching the PJ tour,
I was watching the US Open, so I was there early
and which means I wasn't, what was I saying?
Yeah, I didn't have, I haven't played
and he still has Sunday to play,
so we had dinner, sat at or something.
I did not need to play the golf course.
He was so descriptive and precise
on what you needed to do on what he box.
I go, what?
Like each day was different, too.
Obviously, you know that,
but like you have to figure it out while you play.
You're in there.
Hey, the grass, you see the back left, I'm like, yeah.
You could be back there. If the pin is in the, what do you call pin is little more on the right side because you
have more green work with the grains kind of enters the ball doesn't really sit because
you have to get the ball a little higher. I'm like, what?
He's a secret. Is that one shot? Are we talking about right now? I'm like, okay, okay,
I'm like writing it down.
All right.
So that's way more analytical than you get on a golf course typically?
Or?
I get really analytical, but like this is another level of analytical.
Yeah.
I can't, I don't have that much, that's the experience.
Yeah.
That was so cool too, just to see the men and the women playing the same course.
I thought it was really cool.
I enjoyed that.
It was awesome.
They took a couple of the grandstands down, but for us,
they're like, my come on, we can fill it.
That was tough too, because you guys couldn't play practice
rounds, really, or like, you know, come in early to practice,
really.
Honestly, I mean, like Saturday condition,
if you're playing on Sunday, Sunday condition is not
going to be the same as Thursday.
Yeah.
So I don't like to play early practice.
Yeah.
It doesn't mean everyone's like, oh, you're going to play early. I'm like, conditions not even going to be the same as Thursday. So I don't like to play early precautions. Yeah. Everyone's like, oh you're gonna play early, I'm like,
conditions not even gonna be the same. So. Do you play? So both your US and
wins were on Donald Ross courses at Rhode Island Country Club and Charlotte
Country Club. And then, um... Well, it gets disarrayed. Yeah, well then, and then,
and then Olympia Fields is a classic layout as well
Do you do you play better on kind of old school classic layouts? I'm very I'm very traditional
We're talking about that today when people saw my hair really what happened like I'm very traditional as the way I dress like nothing crazy
Golf course rules etiquette all of that. I'm very old school golf, but
golf course style I like the challenging
where you have to shape shots. I don't like it if it's just the putting contest or if there are no,
if you miss the left, you bring a different shot into play. If you miss it right, you bring
different shot. Around the greens, you have to be, you know, imaginative. You can't just be chipping just a basic chipshot.
Basic chipshots are actually luck.
Like if you have a straight four, 20-yard pit shot,
it's okay, you just mishitted them,
like from the fairway and you caught a break.
But everything should be analyzing the green,
like, hey, let me hit like a cut shot here.
Strategy, yeah.
Because of green soap straight to left. Like like so what are your favorite stops on tour?
The US opens up the KPGs. Yeah
Is the most interesting courses usually
After we signed with PGM America and KPMG they the courses we played are so far so Holly
Olympia Fields and one before that right?
Mirror Field
I don't but then the golf course they pick
And they've been the most action-packed it's so Holly was
I was incredible saying yeah incredible golf course Olympia Fields
I mean I couldn't actually I'm pretty good at course management. I would think I couldn't figure out the golf course
So I called my brother. I took pictures and called my brother because I'm like I don't actually, I'm pretty good at course management, I would think. I couldn't figure out the golf course. So I called my brother.
I took pictures and called my brother because I'm like, I don't want to do.
Hence my drama, dramatic Monday Tuesday, Wednesday.
I was being super dramatic.
I don't know what to do.
I'm freaking out.
I don't know what I'm supposed to do.
Hit off the tee.
Like, he talked me through it.
It's ready to go.
You mean like a video diary to like follow you around for the course of a week
to see these ups and downs.
I'm so dramatic.
Yeah, it's unreal.
My emotions are unbelievable.
Then the US opens, I mean, the golf courses they pick.
We played Blackwell Front.
That was one of my favorite golf courses.
I think like the one in Philadelphia,
I don't know which one that was.
I like Pinehurst, I mean.
Those are all classic golf courses, I like them a lot.
You won the US Juniorium?
You said I met old and I lost in the semis.
Okay, where was that one?
Charlotte Country Club, I think I'll think it.
North Carolina Country Club.
Okay.
Yeah, that was a really nice, old manner,
CC is really nice.
All the ones that USJ picks were like old classic golf courses that I really, really like.
On LPJ stocks, besides the majors,
Kings Mills is really nice golf course.
Short, it's not as easy as it seems,
but it's a shot-chaping course.
Kingsville Country Club, I think.
Do you get a lot of like weird fans on social media or
peep stalkers or anything like that?
Yeah, a lot of people listen to this, right?
Yeah.
Okay, please stop sending me dick pics.
Like, please stop because I honestly wanted to say that like I'm one point in an interview
because I'm like okay guys
I don't know what people that Dave dealt with that they want to see it
But like I don't want to just be going on my day
Going through my T.M.s once like one slide into the DMs and like I was scrolling through you know and just clicking here and there
Like I read all the DMs like like I do, like most of them.
Because thankfully, like none of my fans are like haters.
Like I love them all, like I'm hoping
that I don't give them any reason to hate me.
Like, so, there ain't anything bad ever in there.
Like, don't send me, okay.
It's not even the dick pic.
It's the videoing.
Oh no.
Dude, date, case.
This is Instagram usually, or is it?
I'll just show it to you.
You don't have to do that.
I'm gonna believe you.
I open it up and I, another thing is guys,
I put it in my group chats, guys.
Like, I screenshot it and it's in a tool.
You put people on blast.
I put it all in my group chats
and I send it to all my friends.
But then like, and then you get, like, first of all,
you're gonna get blocked.
Okay, just don't do it.
Okay, and it's just, even if you are that weird,
I don't need to know that you're that weird.
You know what I mean?
Like, let's just have a little bit of boundary.
Like, let's, don't lose my respect to you.
It is what I mean.
And just, so I made me the videos is like,
it's kinda of weird.
I'm not gonna lie.
What, like, have you ever had any instances
where it's gotten kind of beyond social media into?
Yes, I have two restraining orders
and I have gotten my hotel room broken into four times.
Four times?
Same person?
Or?
No, different.
I'm very quiet about it in the screen.
Like, there's no point of like saying it
Everyone but like since you asked but it's it's not I mean, I don't know. It's then a sometimes they get excited
I
Don't know I don't know what it is. Well, thank you. They you like me so much to do that, but
I like to be in peace. I got to see at the golf course
Yeah, I'll take a picture with you. I'm not a grader
I told Dustin when it got broken into I saw him like a week after and my dude
My he's like oh has everything going on my room got broken and he's like ha ha ha
Anything is stolen. I'm like no, he's just there's life
I don't tell me
But yeah anyways, but yeah, so you live in Vegas.
I live in Las Vegas.
Yeah, how long have you lived there ever since you took her out?
I don't know.
Okay.
And as far as Vegas, you play with, you play with Lipski when he's home.
Lipski, my brother.
What's your deal with Lipski regarding tournament wins?
You guys have some kind of room.
Oh, did he tell you?
No, I gave me like one sentence and it's all that I told you. What is it? Him and I had a bet when
we both term pro that whoever has the first three regular event wins or a major win has
to pay for the other person's full party. No expense, no limit. Okay. And David, David
could spend. So I was like, all right, so you either have to win three regular events or a major, whoever does it first.
So David won the Omega.
So I was like, okay, that's kind of a big deal.
That's a big tournament, yeah.
That's kind of a big deal.
It's kind of a major for the European event.
So I was like, you know what, I'll give you two.
I gave him two.
Which generous.
No, it was pretty sick.
Then he won the Asian Tour thing. I felt kind of as I gave him two. It's generous. No, it's pretty sick. Then he won the Asian Tour thing.
I felt kind of lost.
I gave him a half.
So he was like, it's not really, because we said regularity.
It has to be a PGA Tour event.
It's like, I'm trying to be fair here.
PGA Tour or European.
No, we never said European.
But he only plays here.
No, but European open events.
But he won an Asian Tour event.
Okay.
But Asian Tour event like co-sanction with European,
doesn't really count.
That wasn't our deal.
It's like, I don't know, you're not betting web,
you're not planning PJ event all of a sudden web count.
Yeah.
And then if you win two Latin America,
that doesn't equal one at web, right?
Like, we're trying to, I don't know.
Yeah, draw the line somewhere.
Anyways, he was two and a half up.
I won a major.
He owes me a huge part. I want a major. He knows we had a huge party.
But he usually pays so. So he hasn't he hasn't thrown the party yet. Not like straving it one,
we're gonna make it happen. I think I'm gonna wait because I'm gonna wait until he wins too. So
then it'll be a huge one. Join party. We have to like hire strippers and stuff. There's like a
lot of things that go with that party so
And everyone's gonna be amazed.
Will it be a Vegas?
Hoping so. Maybe it'll be a party bus going to LA who knows.
All right, the last one he gave me is about your history of going through caddies rather quickly.
Why does he always give me shit about that?
How many caddies have you been through in your textbook career?
He's so stupid. He frigginging fires more caddies than I do.
Oh my god. Technically, I've only had, it's not only, but five.
Okay.
Maybe six.
In what, six years?
Seven?
Oh, hold on a second.
I had, who did I have?
I had Tom.
Then he came back and tied it for me again.
He guys would go from pregnant and have the baby. Went for a year, came back and tied it for me again. He guys go from pregnant How the baby went for a year came back. So that's Tom had to cool
That's six. Okay, like luchette hired like you're my caddy. Yeah, however
Going back I had a little run for like a year over maybe a year what I wasn't hiring
had a little run for like a year over maybe a year, when I wasn't hiring.
And you would just either pick up a local
or have a friend there.
I was not for hire.
So which means if you're a professional caddy
and you want a caddy for me and we've finished third,
you will still not caddy for me the next week.
I'll just pay you out.
I'm paying you out per week.
Like one week is your max, that is it.
And I was just to keep things fresh or just to...
I was fed up with everything.
I was just tired of just, you know, just,
and everything, just everyone gossiping,
everyone caring about what other people thought.
Just, I don't know, it's just to fed up with the lifestyle,
the way that people did it.
I couldn't really get what I wanted from
them and I didn't know. It wasn't the caddy, it was just kind of where I was at in my life
and I was like, you know what, I just wanted to be on my own, however I need a caddy.
So I don't want to be obligated to have somebody with me, so I just decided to.
You wanted somebody carrying the bag when you got to the core.
Yeah, I just wanted to be by myself.
Yeah.
Honestly, for the whole year, that's what I wanted.
But then I was ready to hire local every week.
But then people would be like,
Hey, I'm looking, you might have I caught for you.
Yeah, for one week.
One week.
Then we play well, they'd be like,
can I, I'm like, no.
And then, but then it's just,
then there's a misunderstanding, you know,
like, well, like what's wrong with me, I'm like,
no, it's not you, it's me.
And I told you going in.
It's not a breakup thing.
I just really am not hiring.
So I've tried so many caddies.
They don't get me wrong, but I was just wasn't hiring.
And if my caddy can't get there on time,
then I'll hire somebody else for the week.
I resolve issues.
So I'm not a person that'll be like, OK,
can you do this for me?
Like if you can't get there by Wednesday then like, how about if I had a look up, like,
there's nothing like that.
If you can't be there, that's fine.
Pay for the week, don't come.
I'm going to hire somebody else for the week.
Like, I need to resolve my issues quickly as possible.
I have too many issues.
Like, my life is like, I'm really crazy.
How long have you been with the lead better?
Four years.
Four years. Four. Four. Yeah. I'm already crazy. How long have you been with lead better?
Four years. Four years. Yeah. Four. Yeah. This is the fourth year. Were there major changes in your game switching to lead better? Um kind of yeah. Yeah. He gave me a bigger toolbox to use basically.
Um he's always said that I'm a good ball striker but he wanted to tune up the way I hit my shots,
more compressed, uh a little bit of swing change
He doesn't really change my swing that much. I even ask him what they swing as he won't tell me so I don't know what it is and then
Yeah, he's been a great coach of mine. Yeah, actually message me a shash probably ready to you because you would like this. Yeah
He said hold on I mean this this guy is actually really funny. Wow that's a long message.
Like it's a is it detailed swing stuff or is it? Basically I'm sketching
what are you gonna do if I get run over by a bus? I'm honestly helping you because you're
your own best teacher. This is all part of your journey. Like
blah blah blah. So just go figure it out. And I'll watch
off for the damn bus. I feel like you need to read it in his
in his accent. How funny is that? That like he goes, what are
you gonna do by your run over by a bus? I'm like like why bother you that much?
It's a copy paste that he sends to all of his students. Here's this
That's good though. He's teaching you to kind of yeah own your own swing, you know?
All the profession is that we'll always end up in a nut house. You're on your way
I love it. All right on that, we're obligated to tell you
that when people do the podcast, the week of a tournament,
they get a natural bump.
So congratulations on winning this week at the KIA Classic.
Oh, nice, thank you.
I get a car.
You get a car?
Yeah, I'll get a win.
Whatever you want to give us for a commission is fine.
But thank you.
That's my brother.
OK, thank you for joining us.
This was a lot of fun.
And for everyone else out there, please don't send
Daniel any more dick pics.
Please don't. I like, please, I will give you a ball for not sending me a dick pic.
Just, you know what I mean?
Just come up to it after the round.
You can't even say, I was gonna send you a dick pic, but I decided not to.
I will get, you know what? Somebody give him a glove.
Ball, I don't care. Like, just don't do it.
I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
You got it. Thank you for coming on.
This was a lot of fun.
We'll have to do it again sometime.
All right.
Well, thank you guys.
Cheers.
I'll be the right club today.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's better than most.
How about him?
That is better than most.
Better than most.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Better than most. How about him? That is better than most.
Better than most.